“Gay Guys With Voices” (w/ Jake Shane)

1h 11m

This episode? Tea. It’s an event in gay guy podcasting history as Jake Shane visits Las Culturistas! Matt, Bow and Jake speak mostly about the pop girls but also touch on being a food snob, Iron man races and marathon performance, JADE and Little Mix lore and how gay guys actually love Tame Impala. Also, Gaga’s Fame Monster HBO special as Jake’s formative culture, how Kim K headlining a legal drama is emblematic of the change in our culture, knowing when to leave a restaurant, and some real talk about how frustrating it is when the fart don’t come out. All this, and the pandemic is FINALLY processed. Listen to Therapuss. You probably already do. Xoxo we love our little brother/dorter Jake.

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Speaker 56 Hey, hey, hey, or should I say, ho, ho, ho?

Speaker 45 It's me, Matt Rogers.

Speaker 47 And in the words of another Christmas icon, it's time.

Speaker 22 I'm back with my new nationwide tour, Matt Rogers, Christmas in December.

Speaker 60 Yes, it's time to remember when Christmas is.

Speaker 22 I'm hitting the road all of December with Henry Kaperski and the whole band performing my album, Have You Heard of Christmas?

Speaker 9 along with a bunch of other little surprises.

Speaker 58 So if you're in LA, San Francisco, Seattle, Portland, Philadelphia, DC, New York City, Boston, Toronto, Chicago, or yes, Orlando, Florida, I want to see your gorgeous ass.

Speaker 22 Go to mattroogersofficial.com or head to my Instagram at MattRogersThough and hit the link in my bio.

Speaker 58 Until then, stream the album, get your look together, and get ready to deck the damn halls at a venue near you.

Speaker 22 Christmas in December, you in my heart.

Speaker 54 XOXO, Santa Boy.

Speaker 71 Look, man.

Speaker 72 Oh, I see. My IOI.

Speaker 57 Oh, and look over there.

Speaker 72 Wow, is that culture? Yes. Goodness.

Speaker 73 Wow.

Speaker 75 Las Culturistas.

Speaker 76 Ding-dong.

Speaker 77 Las Culturistas calling.

Speaker 62 It's already hot in the studio.

Speaker 79 And not just because we're wearing fuzzy shirts.

Speaker 62 Unplanned.

Speaker 70 Right. Unplanned.
It's these giant panel lights. Oh, my God.

Speaker 80 I hope we look stunning under them.

Speaker 62 Hope it was worth it, guys.

Speaker 70 Hope the rig was

Speaker 70 the jig.

Speaker 81 No, not my best.

Speaker 83 It's early.

Speaker 19 You know what?

Speaker 80 Not only is it early, last night was one of the great nights, and we can't really get into it because it won't come out until November 6th.

Speaker 82 My birthday?

Speaker 78 It's wow, that is your birthday.

Speaker 87 That's going to be a huge day for you. Well,

Speaker 70 it's a bad day overall for the world because last year was the day after the election, of course.

Speaker 91 That's why that date sounded familiar.

Speaker 70 That's why that date sounded familiar.

Speaker 40 You know history.

Speaker 92 A little.

Speaker 93 Wait.

Speaker 94 Okay, so anyway,

Speaker 95 that was Wicked One Wonderful Night was shot last night.

Speaker 63 Shot it last night at the Dolby.

Speaker 36 It was so fantastic.

Speaker 70 I've never seen anything like it. Truly, I'm sorry, Nutsince the Culture Awards was there a live to tape special.

Speaker 98 Quite that gagged so. That gagged the girls.

Speaker 99 Well, I'll say this.

Speaker 82 Today's going to gag the girls.

Speaker 24 Because in many ways, and many ways on different levels, it's a like

Speaker 104 event in gay guy podcast history.

Speaker 70 It's an event in family history. Like, I think this is...
I know you've long claimed that our guest is your daughter.

Speaker 106 I did. I adopted him pretty immediately.

Speaker 92 But I've, I've heard of his answer.

Speaker 70 Now we're doing a thing where we are learning about the guests' answers to the question. Beforehand.

Speaker 24 Beforehand.

Speaker 89 So we can get this prepared for the podcast.

Speaker 108 Unbelievable.

Speaker 70 And as soon as I heard, and if you, if you want to change it, no problem. But if it is what I think it is, it is.
I said, this is my daughter as well.

Speaker 66 My daughter.

Speaker 78 My daughter.

Speaker 96 Maybe we have our first child together.

Speaker 79 Have you thought about that?

Speaker 70 Science is amazing.

Speaker 80 Well, it's first of all, if you didn't think gay guys could get each other pregnant, honey.

Speaker 70 Honey, check my anus.

Speaker 112 Honey, check his anus.

Speaker 113 Stop taking that Tylenol.

Speaker 114 Fucking you up.

Speaker 81 Honey.

Speaker 20 I don't think so, honey. Tylenol.

Speaker 78 That's Trump's. I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 71 He told us, he told us his opportunity to tell honey in advance.

Speaker 66 Well, he said he's had a bad week.

Speaker 116 He's coming on the show next week.

Speaker 118 It's going to be amazing.

Speaker 70 We are recording this just in case there's like 10 more horrific fire hoses of human suffering. Yeah.

Speaker 70 By the time this comes out, we're recording this the week of the Tylenol Autism Announcement.

Speaker 116 Yeah,

Speaker 80 he said, in advance, I want you to know, I don't think so honey is Tylenol. My culture, the name he said, culture was for me, is Benito Mussolini.

Speaker 82 And I'm ready to go, babe.

Speaker 96 He's got a stylist picked out for the event.

Speaker 78 He's going to wear an even longer red tie.

Speaker 40 Well,

Speaker 70 this guest is...

Speaker 70 Really special to us.

Speaker 70 I've never seen a crowd be in the palm of someone's hand like they were at Radio City for his tour.

Speaker 120 He feeds the children, as it were.

Speaker 78 He's got so many children.

Speaker 82 The pussies.

Speaker 70 The pussies.

Speaker 121 And that was such a fun night.

Speaker 103 That was an amazing night.

Speaker 19 I went.

Speaker 122 Have you yet been on Therapist?

Speaker 70 I've not yet been on Therapist. I was supposed to make it happen earlier.

Speaker 97 We're making it happen.

Speaker 80 He's one of the busiest girls in America.

Speaker 106 I say about both of them.

Speaker 106 We are so excited.

Speaker 111 This is beyond. Beyond.

Speaker 24 To welcome the host of Therapus and cultural icon, the one and only.

Speaker 77 Take shit!

Speaker 76 We are so happy you're here.

Speaker 124 This is the best day of my life.

Speaker 66 Well, this is, I've literally been waiting for this since the day I was born.

Speaker 126 Sorry, other days.

Speaker 82 I know.

Speaker 119 Suck. They suck.

Speaker 70 Wait, that was a very fun time. And I still remember the story you told.

Speaker 5 You read letters from the audience.

Speaker 73 And there was one girl who...

Speaker 70 was fucking a guy and then her roommate fucked him and then all the roommate had to say was tea

Speaker 128 yeah i remember that too That one stuck with me because I really fucked with the roommate after that.

Speaker 131 What do you mean?

Speaker 72 I just like, was like, when you behave poorly

Speaker 134 and you just kind of own it like that, and you're just like, sorry.

Speaker 82 Yeah. Like, it's kind of everywhere.

Speaker 93 Isn't T sorry though?

Speaker 136 T is just kind of like, get a load of this.

Speaker 61 Like, you know what I mean?

Speaker 118 That's kind of rule of culture number eight.

Speaker 77 T is kind of like, get a load of this.

Speaker 132 Wait, you know what I was thinking about the other day with the rule of culture when a girl, when a woman does something serious.

Speaker 140 Yeah.

Speaker 88 Yeah.

Speaker 141 There was something, I saw something and I I was like, oh, and that's what it made me think of.

Speaker 82 Culture is when a woman

Speaker 82 seriously seriously, a gay guy does something

Speaker 57 or a straight guy does something good by accident.

Speaker 141 It's like actually biblical.

Speaker 143 It's kind of everything.

Speaker 70 It is everything. That's the Celestium original for the culture awards, rules of culture number one.
I mean, yeah, we're still thinking about that, right?

Speaker 70 Like, what do we, like, isn't it so powerful that we're naming that? Yes. That is culture.

Speaker 128 That is culture.

Speaker 132 And by the way, I would just like to say that the culture awards were the best night of my life.

Speaker 82 You were incredible.

Speaker 132 No laugh if I can tell you I was there with Louise and we kept looking at each other like this.

Speaker 57 By the way, Louise is in the building.

Speaker 115 In the building. Yeah.

Speaker 67 In a cardigan.

Speaker 82 It's fall.

Speaker 96 It's such a fun part of any show to have the characters, the like orbital characters.

Speaker 106 And I feel like you have that too.

Speaker 89 I do.

Speaker 96 You sort of have the Howard Stern vibe.

Speaker 119 You know, I've never seen Howard Stern.

Speaker 147 That's okay.

Speaker 83 That's okay. I think you would like him.

Speaker 138 Okay, I think so too.

Speaker 90 He's like a legend, they say, right?

Speaker 89 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 76 He's sort of a legend, they say, right?

Speaker 114 Would we even be in front of mics if he hadn't first been in front of his mic?

Speaker 80 I'm just saying, did he create sort of speaking in front of a microphone?

Speaker 40 Yeah. Right.

Speaker 124 In a way,

Speaker 90 I know that much about him.

Speaker 82 Yeah.

Speaker 146 Well, there's a few things to know about Howard Stern.

Speaker 150 Incredibly filthy and candid

Speaker 61 in front of a microphone.

Speaker 24 Right. And the hair.

Speaker 106 Of course, he's got like sort of iconic look.

Speaker 70 What are you hoping for your birthday?

Speaker 128 For my birthday, I think I want to do a birthday dinner if you guys are in town at my favorite Thai restaurant in the world, Anna Jack Thai.

Speaker 96 Anna Jack Thai?

Speaker 92 Anna Jack Thai. Where is it?

Speaker 154 Okay, it is in Sherman Oaks.

Speaker 129 I totally might have just lied, but I think it's in Sherman Oaks.

Speaker 147 Yeah. Well, Obama ate there the other week.

Speaker 156 He did.

Speaker 100 He did.

Speaker 68 Did you get any intel on what he ordered?

Speaker 128 You know what?

Speaker 124 No.

Speaker 90 And I'm going to ask. Yeah.

Speaker 128 And it is the greatest Thai food I've ever had in my entire life.

Speaker 89 And I grew up in New York around really, really great Thai food. Yes.

Speaker 138 And it is genuinely the best Thai food I've ever had in my entire life.

Speaker 70 LA Thai food is next level.

Speaker 160 It is. L.A.

Speaker 70 Thai food will make you go,

Speaker 70 I'm sweating in this plastic covered dining chair

Speaker 70 in a strip mall.

Speaker 70 But I'm in heaven.

Speaker 161 But this, it's like Loki Michelin.

Speaker 132 Or like he like wants, he wanted James Beard.

Speaker 61 The chef wanted James Beard.

Speaker 164 And so it's like they have like uh

Speaker 135 i think it's uh chinese sausage fried rice oh so amazing they have these like little tuna crudo pastry cups then they have the classics pad thai yeah pad grapow but then they have like a few like bougie things like they have like a like a few different crudos and they have a big fried chicken dish

Speaker 90 so i think that's all i hope is that i have i can rent out the private room there do a birthday there and i don't want to go out i just want to do that you just want to do that yeah i have to say when you have a restaurant like that, that's like a destination, that is all you need.

Speaker 14 And they just closed mine down in LA.

Speaker 114 What was yours? Genghis Cohen.

Speaker 119 That was your destination.

Speaker 71 That's the one.

Speaker 116 You're an older brother, and you disrespected me.

Speaker 162 That was your destination restaurant.

Speaker 82 Kind of like a food snob.

Speaker 92 Own it.

Speaker 119 I am.

Speaker 172 I love it. I am.
I just like.

Speaker 174 You need a James Beard award.

Speaker 171 Somewhat.

Speaker 88 Wait, that name?

Speaker 70 As soon as you said he had a James Beard, they have a James Beard. Beard the name James Beard is so powerful imagine if the award was called Daniel Smith

Speaker 82 would mean nothing but James Beard I don't even know I don't know about that award ceremony I don't even know what its award I think it's for dessert is it not I bet it's boring as fuck oh no I don't cut that out no no it's okay it's okay I bet it's actually really fun well you know I think the only reason I know a James Beard is legit is because everyone was like this restaurant has been around forever but when the chef won a James Beard award that's when it it was hard to get in.

Speaker 139 So I was like, oh, it must mean something.

Speaker 147 Yeah, it definitely does.

Speaker 78 I've heard of it.

Speaker 41 And can we just, can we confirm, is it a dessert thing?

Speaker 61 Does anyone in the community know?

Speaker 106 No, it's not.

Speaker 82 It's not. That would have been a significant thing.

Speaker 176 It made no sense because they're not quite chef.

Speaker 83 For chefs.

Speaker 82 We have a friend that was nominated.

Speaker 92 Oh, you do? Oh,

Speaker 24 for what restaurant?

Speaker 175 Lula in Chicago.

Speaker 107 Lula in Chicago.

Speaker 118 Do you know of that restaurant?

Speaker 177 Of course not.

Speaker 132 But I will go to, I'm going to Chicago for the marathon.

Speaker 107 Oh, you are? Yes.

Speaker 98 Are you, will you be performing?

Speaker 169 No, I, no, next year.

Speaker 71 Performing in the marathon.

Speaker 165 My best friend is performing. Yeah.

Speaker 133 And I'm really excited to see her perform.

Speaker 100 I think that the marathon is a performance.

Speaker 81 Do you know what I realized the other day?

Speaker 111 The Iron Man thing?

Speaker 116 It's disgusting.

Speaker 78 Wait, was it on your show that you talked to Dylan Efron about the Iron Man? It is a full marathon, a hundred-mile bike, and a how much long swim?

Speaker 128 Like miles.

Speaker 166 And you know how people pee their pants during marathons?

Speaker 176 They shit themselves.

Speaker 128 People shit themselves on Iron Man.

Speaker 118 Hey, you love Dylan Efron?

Speaker 145 You think he's sexy?

Speaker 81 He shits himself during the Iron Man.

Speaker 111 I bet that's period.

Speaker 70 Now I'm turned on even more.

Speaker 82 Oh, you fecal.

Speaker 93 You violent

Speaker 82 woman.

Speaker 102 Should we, we can really make,

Speaker 70 I think we can really push the boundary with this and like be the first like marathon. We can be on the marathon circuit just as entertainment.

Speaker 24 A hundred.

Speaker 147 Wait, 110%.

Speaker 78 Look out for me when I have Plastic Box by Jade on a loop, just walking the marathon.

Speaker 82 Plastic Box.

Speaker 160 Okay, is that album good?

Speaker 82 It is the album of the year.

Speaker 166 Are you serious?

Speaker 163 I haven't given it a listen yet, and I really liked Angel of My Dreams.

Speaker 82 You're going to love it then. Press play.

Speaker 163 Okay, but what is good on the album?

Speaker 70 The entire fucking thing.

Speaker 86 Girl, I don't think there's been a better run of songs.

Speaker 82 What?

Speaker 68 Like, oh,

Speaker 106 self-saboteur,

Speaker 24 self-saboteur, lip service, lip service into headache, headache, into glitch.

Speaker 169 Okay, and I'm going to like this.

Speaker 19 And then

Speaker 70 break my heart. And no, and then um, and then um natural disaster, which is a bad natural disaster, which is my misthing.

Speaker 82 Yes, about who? About Jesse.

Speaker 70 Natural disaster is about natural disasters about Jesse. It's like Jesse Nelson.
You're chaotic. You're you're worse than the fucking devil.
She like, she really goes there on Jesse Nelson.

Speaker 171 Do they not get along?

Speaker 157 Can I say that?

Speaker 82 We must say she has struggles.

Speaker 146 In defense of Jesse Nelson, because I have to say, I am a little mixed from the very beginning.

Speaker 170 I was one of the only gay guys in America regularly

Speaker 19 on YouTube watching UK X Factor.

Speaker 121 I've known them since they auditioned as solo artists and then were put in a group called Rhythmix.

Speaker 67 They had to change their name when they made the live rounds to Little Mix because there was like a copyright issue.

Speaker 68 They became Little Mix. They won the hearts of the UK and Little Gay Boys in America streaming on YouTube.

Speaker 70 And then Black Magic came out and then that's when I saw that word.

Speaker 111 They won the UK X Factor and it was no girl group had won and like, or no group had won really.

Speaker 120 And then they became huge and they never happened in america and cut two years later they become massive internationally so no one really understood that they were like destiny's child everywhere fucking else okay so jessie had like a lot of troubles because the media was always picking on her about her weight like really really relentlessly and she struggled a lot

Speaker 24 and it's like not the first time i think we've seen like it happen where like you're in a group of and then one they choose one person that stands out in a certain way, and then they just totally like

Speaker 106 have a psychological sort of breakdown. She ended up leaving the group, and I think it was pretty sudden.

Speaker 114 They were like on album like four, they had just released that album, Confetti, I believe.

Speaker 78 That was like

Speaker 11 such a good album.

Speaker 103 And then she left like really abruptly.

Speaker 110 I think they were shooting the music video for Sweet Melody, which is one of my favorite songs.

Speaker 82 How's that going, Gan?

Speaker 122 In a whole other life, there was this boy that I knew. He made me feel like a woman.
They were young and silly fools.

Speaker 100 Anyway, he started.

Speaker 72 It was like that.

Speaker 70 It was like that.

Speaker 82 A little like that.

Speaker 24 I sort of went really in it. You know what I mean?

Speaker 115 Sing me three melodies.

Speaker 57 He played me, made me believe it was real love.

Speaker 115 Sing me three melodies.

Speaker 40 But the daylight.

Speaker 182 And you know what I took from that?

Speaker 176 I've never heard that song.

Speaker 82 Right. But you've heard confetti.

Speaker 143 But from the sky jump, like confetti.

Speaker 71 Yes, I am.

Speaker 71 So me happy.

Speaker 135 Hey.

Speaker 167 I've heard like a good amount of little mix. I used to watch, like, they would, they're very good at performing live.

Speaker 135 Oh, they're amazing.

Speaker 164 Like, Perry

Speaker 144 is excellent live. Yeah.

Speaker 66 Excellent. Yeah.

Speaker 133 So is Jade, and so is,

Speaker 165 who am I? I'm forgetting. Leanne.
Leanne.

Speaker 132 Leanne. And then there's Jesse.
Jesse.

Speaker 70 Yes.

Speaker 66 Yeah.

Speaker 70 So just listen to the Jade album.

Speaker 92 Oh, Jake.

Speaker 70 You're going to love it. And text us.

Speaker 98 Okay, I will.

Speaker 183 There has always been something about Jade.

Speaker 78 Yeah.

Speaker 80 Like, but it sort of was Camila Kameo vibes where it was like, that's a group, but that's clearly like the one.

Speaker 156 Real, well, Camila Kameo is the one.

Speaker 82 Out of the

Speaker 116 harmony, yes, she is.

Speaker 101 And I'm sorry.

Speaker 138 I'm sorry. C-X-O-X-O.

Speaker 20 I liked it.

Speaker 79 No, we will be remembered very well in history.

Speaker 141 First of all, when that came out, I said, why is no one else caring?

Speaker 98 It is so good, you guys.

Speaker 121 Excuse me, what's that song that I kept singing?

Speaker 185 I'm a June Bloom, baby pink, like the little box.

Speaker 71 I love boat.

Speaker 166 Boat is amazing.

Speaker 150 Wait, pull up the Camilla.

Speaker 137 Pull up CXOXO.

Speaker 101 It's actually Roller Culture number 10.

Speaker 77 Pull up CXOXO.

Speaker 70 No, there's a song that there's a song that Matt was was just non-stop.

Speaker 144 Oh, I couldn't.

Speaker 186 I remember you posting boat.

Speaker 117 I like remembering that. I remember you posting boat.

Speaker 150 I have not gotten a little horny and posted boat.

Speaker 64 It was.

Speaker 160 Dade County Dreaming.

Speaker 61 It was Dade County Dreaming.

Speaker 79 No, no, no. Chanel number five.

Speaker 71 Chanel number five.

Speaker 71 Come on.

Speaker 82 I'm telling you.

Speaker 137 And can I say,

Speaker 187 we literally like, when I, and this is the problem.

Speaker 171 This is what happened with that album.

Speaker 80 The first single was called I Love It and sounded like a Charlie XCX song.

Speaker 24 And so I think everyone was like,

Speaker 94 she's ripping her off.

Speaker 178 And I think like that was the wrong first single because of of course, people were going to say that.

Speaker 188 But let's not take away from the fact that I love it.

Speaker 165 It's actually an excellent song.

Speaker 90 And the visuals behind it were so

Speaker 163 everything at the time when she did the little, like, remember, she did the little dance. And then Playboy Cardi's feature was actually really good.

Speaker 61 I love He Knows.

Speaker 70 Oh, I think, but I think the Drake feature also kind of fucked it.

Speaker 82 Yeah, there was so much Drake on that.

Speaker 132 That didn't make sense to me.

Speaker 70 It was a tough time for that to be coincident.

Speaker 90 But the deluxe is even better.

Speaker 131 Magic City additionally.

Speaker 132 Baby, what is it?

Speaker 140 It's Baby Pink.

Speaker 66 Baby Pink.

Speaker 72 It's ugly.

Speaker 122 You were quietly standing, Camilla.

Speaker 116 I was, I was, I was. You were.

Speaker 70 It was Baby Pink.

Speaker 35 Come show me. Can Friends Kiss?

Speaker 70 Godspeed.

Speaker 172 Can Friends Godspeed.

Speaker 119 Oh, have you heard Godspeed?

Speaker 40 Of course I've heard Godspeed.

Speaker 120 I wasn't quietly standing, Camilla.

Speaker 10 I was publicly standing.

Speaker 163 Godspeed's like the greatest.

Speaker 165 I mean, like, you know what deluxe is good when you're like, that should have been on the album.

Speaker 40 Sure, sure, totally.

Speaker 90 I'm like, that makes a good deluxe. If you can't say that about a deluxe, the deluxe is shit and it shouldn't be, it shouldn't have been released.

Speaker 92 Period.

Speaker 80 Wait, do you know what's not getting a deluxe?

Speaker 111 And we now know it's not because she said it.

Speaker 96 And you know the fact,

Speaker 24 this is what's really

Speaker 112 not great today.

Speaker 79 This episode is going to come out after Life of a Showgirl.

Speaker 66 And so like, how can we even

Speaker 70 respond to it?

Speaker 82 This is a hardcore Swifty.

Speaker 169 I know.

Speaker 132 I mean, like, I used to, like, when I was bored, like, should we write an essay?

Speaker 82 Yeah. On Taylor? Just, yeah.

Speaker 82 The words would flow.

Speaker 182 They did. I'll send you.

Speaker 128 I wrote one on The Archer.

Speaker 115 I've been the Archer.

Speaker 80 I was on Acid one time in Fire Island.

Speaker 96 I just looked at the ocean and listened to the Archer for six hours.

Speaker 82 Holy fuck.

Speaker 117 That sounds amazing.

Speaker 100 This is like years ago.

Speaker 167 So, but like, if you guys want to call me in and you like need my thoughts on the album, like, I'm happy to give them.

Speaker 70 Do you write about the way she hits the T on combat in this essay?

Speaker 165 No, what I do write about is how.

Speaker 79 In this essay, I will.

Speaker 135 What I do write about is how, like, she,

Speaker 160 it's like at, if I remember the essay correctly, it's like she's at this point in her career where it's like, she's like, at this point, she thought lover was going to be her peak, right?

Speaker 132 Like, if you watch Miss Americana, like, she says, like, lover is my last chance at, like, global superstar.

Speaker 75 Obviously, we know now she was wrong.

Speaker 70 She was like, the culture's going to throw me away after I hit 30, whatever.

Speaker 128 But so you have this, like, really vulnerable moment of reflection.

Speaker 185 Yeah.

Speaker 192 And, like, on the archer, she's, like, reflecting on her entire career and everything she's been through.

Speaker 70 All my enemies started out friends.

Speaker 169 No, I mean, I'm going to throw up.

Speaker 136 Like, I'm going to throw up.

Speaker 140 And I listen, it's that song that I thought about every friend of mine that became like an enemy.

Speaker 128 And like, I was like, all the times that I thought I was the villain or I thought I was the hero.

Speaker 173 And like, cause she says, like, I've.

Speaker 128 quite literally been the archer and been the prey. Like, I've been the bad guy, I've been the good guy.

Speaker 132 I can't ever find someone to stay who could stay.

Speaker 128 And then the song obviously ends with you.

Speaker 147 You could say.

Speaker 163 It is seriously biblical.

Speaker 141 It's the best song she's ever released.

Speaker 147 Is she speaking to the fans there or was she speaking to joe so oh at the time i can't right now like you actually have to

Speaker 128 did he just say he can't no like he louise she is speaking to you can look at it multiple ways and that's the beauty of every good taylor swift song mastermind is a great other example

Speaker 119 on mastermind you're either talking about her lover at the time or she is speaking about the fans yeah she's like i've got you you're mine and and i think the beauty of it is it can always go both ways and she knows it can go both ways.

Speaker 80 So, this is the part where, because you said, mastermind, this is the natural part of any conversation where we pivot to midnights.

Speaker 68 Now,

Speaker 120 underrated is something that is

Speaker 184 apt, but also feels silly because it won album of the year.

Speaker 120 But it is apt because there are people out here.

Speaker 98 We have a close friend who would never publicly say this, and I will never do this to him.

Speaker 24 But he refers to midnights as floppy.

Speaker 83 Flop nights.

Speaker 77 No.

Speaker 166 And no i could ruin someone i could ruin someone's life right now you could well let me tell you a few things about midnights number one in one album of the year number two it was the first it was the first time any female artist or maybe any artist ever has taken the entire top 10 of the billboard hot 100 ever and she would do it again and she would do it she will she's planning on it yeah

Speaker 70 listen what do you make of these reports and again this is coming out after the album this episode these bombshell reports but these bombshell reports allege that it is wall-to-wall wall-to-wall coverage.

Speaker 70 That is the media strategy with Life of a Showgirl. It will rival, if not exceed, the cultural saturation of Thriller by Michael Jackson.

Speaker 132 I wasn't alive for that.

Speaker 66 So that's why I'm not.

Speaker 57 Well, neither were we, to be clear.

Speaker 88 Okay, well, I'm just saying, like, you know, like, it's

Speaker 129 like, you know, what for me is like what I think of when I think of life of the Life of the Showgirl?

Speaker 138 I think about very big, like, the emancipation of Mimi. Like,

Speaker 149 so much.

Speaker 119 No, you're welcome.

Speaker 192 You are our our daughter like i well yeah i love i love mimi and i i think about the emancipation of me and that album was just everywhere what what is it um shake it off we belong together

Speaker 82 it's like that let me say the high points of that album are like not even the single circles circles running around in circles

Speaker 139 Do you think her new album's going to be good?

Speaker 70 Yes.

Speaker 104 Are you kidding me? You know, actually, a friend reached out, Rich Joswiak, was reviewing reviewing it, I guess, for Pitchfork.

Speaker 24 And he, he said, have you, have you heard it yet?

Speaker 111 And I was like, no, I haven't, because it hasn't come out yet as we're recording this.

Speaker 137 He said it's giving more of like a silksonic vibe, like sort of like, and then it's like a lot of it is like an R ⁇ B groove.

Speaker 80 And apparently the gospel song is also disco. Because Mariah will always, at least one track on the album, is about our great creator.

Speaker 82 Right. Yeah.

Speaker 128 She, do you know what song I randomly really love by her?

Speaker 128 Have you ever heard The Art of Letting Go?

Speaker 82 Yeah, for me. Of course.

Speaker 179 I love that song.

Speaker 147 So underrated by her.

Speaker 24 So underrated.

Speaker 133 I used to be like really into her.

Speaker 128 And actually recently I've been listening to the hits.

Speaker 70 The hits, but also, but Art of Letting Go. Oh, no, that's not Elusive Chanteuse, is it?

Speaker 147 That is.

Speaker 108 Underrated album overall.

Speaker 142 Yeah.

Speaker 106 All the albums that came after Emancipation of Mimi are all underrated.

Speaker 107 I would say it's Constantine. It's a

Speaker 82 hundred percent.

Speaker 99 The best album title ever.

Speaker 106 First of all, the song Obsessed is her number one song on Spotify.

Speaker 133 And people just like forget what a huge bop that is yes well i remember seeing it every single morning on vh1 every morning yep every morning they showed it

Speaker 193 On eBay, every find has a story.

Speaker 194 Like if you're looking for a vintage band tee.

Speaker 196 Not just a tea, the band tee.

Speaker 69 From the last show, your favorite band ever played.

Speaker 27 You wore it everywhere.

Speaker 198 Then your boyfriend started wearing it, which was cute, until he dumped you and took it with him, which was not so cute.

Speaker 199 But he was. I miss him.

Speaker 112 Anyway, now you're on eBay.

Speaker 200 And there it is, same tea from the same tour, still living in your memory, rent-free, forever.

Speaker 108 Yeah.

Speaker 201 Screw you, Dave.

Speaker 2 The things you love have a way of finding their way back to you.

Speaker 74 Except Dave.

Speaker 127 But eBay isn't just forgetting whatever your ex/slash XBFF stole back.

Speaker 199 We miss you.

Speaker 203 It's also for that rare championship foul ball that you caught, then heroically gave to the kid next to you.

Speaker 197 You're welcome, Scoot.

Speaker 105 And where else are you going to find your first car?

Speaker 206 A RAV4 from 2003?

Speaker 49 The one you wish you never never sold, but now finally got the chance to take back home.

Speaker 70 I'm buying a car on eBay for good this time.

Speaker 113 Shop eBay for millions of finds, each with a story.

Speaker 197 eBay.

Speaker 85 Things people love.

Speaker 97 Let's take a tagline.

Speaker 28 No one can resist a rule of culture.

Speaker 208 So here's one for the dating files.

Speaker 63 Rule of culture number 72.

Speaker 209 Chemistry isn't just vibes, it's values.

Speaker 36 Because what's the point of matching with someone if you can't talk about the shows you binge, the books you dog ear, or all the hot takes you'll defend at brunch.

Speaker 210 I mean you definitely have friends who have met their partners on Bumble and it makes sense.

Speaker 213 It's not just about matching with someone, it's about finding someone who gets your references, your obsessions, your whole vibe.

Speaker 5 With shared interests and prompts, you don't just see a profile.

Speaker 217 You get a glimpse of someone's personality, which makes it even easier to start conversations that actually lead somewhere.

Speaker 219 Plus, with photo and ID verification, you can trust that the person you're talking to is real.

Speaker 220 With that added peace of mind, it's so much easier to show up as your full self.

Speaker 7 So whether your rule of culture is the best first date, start with the shared hot take on Renaissance, or or compatibility is having the same hometown bodega order, download Bumble and turn those connections into something bigger.

Speaker 222 Download Bumble and start your love story.

Speaker 45 You ever just stop in the middle of a crazy day and realize, wow, I needed a break.

Speaker 223 It literally happened to me yesterday.

Speaker 224 I cracked open a Diet Coke, sat back for five minutes.

Speaker 73 Total reset.

Speaker 13 Right?

Speaker 225 There's something about the crispy, refreshing taste of an ice-cold Diet Coke.

Speaker 226 It just hits.

Speaker 227 It's my little me moment, like make time for a Diet Coke break, you know?

Speaker 228 Exactly.

Speaker 20 Diet Coke is the perfect companion for all break moments.

Speaker 65 Diet Coke, this is my taste.

Speaker 50 Two questions. What are you doing right now?

Speaker 33 And why aren't you on a Virgin Voyages Caribbean cruise?

Speaker 214 Well, obviously you're listening to us. Smart use of your time.

Speaker 211 True.

Speaker 33 But you could also be on a Virgin Voyages Caribbean cruise at the same time.

Speaker 34 That's just brilliant time management.

Speaker 232 Very true.

Speaker 233 This gives me an idea.

Speaker 234 Let's do a quick cruise quiz. Ready?

Speaker 235 First, cruise dining.

Speaker 237 Do you prefer a buffet or a curated dining experience with access to 20 distinct restaurants?

Speaker 203 Curated dining.

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Speaker 240 Second question.

Speaker 64 Would you rather have an overstuffed itinerary or the freedom to explore stunning?

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Speaker 15 Again, I think I see where this quiz is going.

Speaker 60 Virgin Voyages is amazing.

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Speaker 243 The cruises are kid-free.

Speaker 244 From sunrise yoga to late-night cocktails, every moment is made for grown-up fun.

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Speaker 174 I deserve luxury.

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Speaker 214 Boredom doesn't board the ship.

Speaker 55 And there are so many amazing stops.

Speaker 253 You leave from Miami and sail to places like Grand Cayman, Jamaica, Puerto Rico, and the Dominican Republic.

Speaker 47 Virgin even has their own private beach club in Bimini.

Speaker 48 And they're adding stops in 2025 and 2026.

Speaker 28 Yeah, like Aruba, St.

Speaker 105 Lucia, and Caraçao.

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Speaker 70 Okay, this is a perfect segue into the question, I think, which is: Jake Shane, what is the culture that made you say culture is for me?

Speaker 133 Well, so is it true you know my answer already?

Speaker 132 We do know it is the Lady Gaga Fame Monster HBO special from either 2010 or 2011.

Speaker 110 My sister has grown emotional.

Speaker 79 Yes. Here we go.

Speaker 70 All right, New York.

Speaker 98 Are you all standing up?

Speaker 76 Yeah, and I get- I don't know if you've heard, but I've got a pretty big dick.

Speaker 77 Yes, so come on.

Speaker 98 Get your dicks out. Cause I know they've got a lot of big cuck here in New York City.

Speaker 70 Welcome to the Monster Ball.

Speaker 82 Now dance, you motherfuckers!

Speaker 70 Love game, love game, love game. Marilyn Manson remix of Love Game.

Speaker 81 That moment

Speaker 148 did it for me.

Speaker 77 I was going, I'm going to the end with her.

Speaker 161 I just remember so desperately, desperately wanting to see the show.

Speaker 167 And my mom would not, I was 10. My mom would not let me see the show.

Speaker 106 Probably because of all the big dick talk.

Speaker 160 The big dick talk, I mean, her performance during teeth, like all of it was just like, my mom was like, you cannot go.

Speaker 132 And I was the gaga was like really my first love.

Speaker 185 Yeah.

Speaker 167 So like, you know, like, I remember calling up, like, asking them to play Just Dance on the radio because they didn't have an iPod.

Speaker 61 You called them up on the radio?

Speaker 82 Yes, but I didn't have an an iPod.

Speaker 155 Yeah, it was 100.

Speaker 132 And I would say, please play Just Dance because I would, that's the only way we'd be able to do it.

Speaker 77 Please play Just Dance.

Speaker 185 That's the only way I would be able to hear this fucking song.

Speaker 163 I remember the first time I ever saw Poker Face. I remember the first time I saw Bad Romance.

Speaker 167 And I remember being like, she is going on tour.

Speaker 132 I need to see this motherfucking tour. And my mom was like, you, you can't see it.

Speaker 134 And then I went to my best friend at the time's basement and I said, this HBO special is coming out.

Speaker 132 We have to go, we have to see it.

Speaker 129 And I remember watching it being like, it's clicking.

Speaker 167 I see why my mom wouldn't let me.

Speaker 177 I would be uncomfortable seeing this with my mom.

Speaker 79 Yeah, well, not with mom, but not with mom.

Speaker 70 But thank God for the fucking special.

Speaker 83 Thank God for HBO.

Speaker 192 She goes down to it.

Speaker 128 Do you remember she like walks to a bodega and her heels

Speaker 192 and she like orders and she's like, she, and she's like reminiscing.

Speaker 129 And then she's in her dressing room and she starts crying.

Speaker 76 We're at the garden.

Speaker 132 Yeah, and she's like, everyone that told me no, like, I'm just thinking about, I'm like, oh, I mean, this is it.

Speaker 96 Lady Gaga.

Speaker 70 Lady fucking gaga.

Speaker 91 I saw her for the first time at the mayhem.

Speaker 147 What did you think? What?

Speaker 132 I said, this is, I was with Louise, and we just kept looking at each other saying,

Speaker 190 it's art.

Speaker 132 Like, this is like, I full body chills thinking about it.

Speaker 125 It was truly one of the best nights of my life.

Speaker 164 Like, that she is an artist.

Speaker 144 Like, Louise is crying.

Speaker 163 I was, first of all, I was very scared because the crowd is a lot of gay men.

Speaker 128 I was scared that the crowd was either not going to be very kind.

Speaker 171 No, little monsters are so kind.

Speaker 79 No, no, no, no. You have no idea.

Speaker 120 First of all, it's the best night of anyone's life.

Speaker 106 When we went to go see her at Coachella, so Bowen is friendly with her, obviously, obviously, from doing SNL and everything.

Speaker 110 So we got to see her afterwards.

Speaker 175 And all I could think to say to her was like, you just gave everyone the best night of their life.

Speaker 83 Like that's like,

Speaker 178 because

Speaker 120 I can see also and have a sense that she's incredibly, incredibly hard on herself.

Speaker 106 Yes. That's a really high bar.

Speaker 112 It's mind-blowing that someone can

Speaker 79 keep

Speaker 82 tossing itself.

Speaker 184 And I was just like, it was the best night of everyone's life.

Speaker 120 Like, part of me, like a human in me, wants to be like, you could take a break.

Speaker 68 You know what I mean? Like,

Speaker 98 you did it.

Speaker 111 You have every single time out been the artist of our time.

Speaker 82 Right.

Speaker 81 Number one.

Speaker 138 But you know what I think?

Speaker 133 And I think this is so like, and this is like my favorite.

Speaker 129 Cause I feel like the life of a pop girl, it's always like, it somewhat always kind of follows like a similar trajectory.

Speaker 163 And it's always their best album is always when they think culture is given up on them.

Speaker 134 And then they like go back to to their like who they are because they, they don't think anyone's listening.

Speaker 158 And you think it's mayhem?

Speaker 132 I think it's mayhem. And I think that was Taylor Swift's folklore.

Speaker 154 I think that was Mariah's emancipation of Mimi.

Speaker 167 I think like, you know, that their comeback album is always when they are like, well, culture's had it with me.

Speaker 132 I'm just going to make this for me and my fans.

Speaker 167 And it ends up beating.

Speaker 139 And then culture is like, wait, we want you back.

Speaker 83 Right.

Speaker 70 But Gaga to me has these undeniable benchmarks, including the Monster Ball and the HBO thing, which again, I couldn't afford tickets.

Speaker 70 I was like 17 in the city, couldn't fucking afford anything, any experience. And like, thank you, I like went on LimeWire or whatever, downloaded it, watched it.

Speaker 70 But then the other benchmarks to me, I will always cherish this time in my life, Star Wars Born.

Speaker 82 Oh, my God. Starbars Born.

Speaker 150 It's in my top three favorite cargo.

Speaker 147 Do you remember? Well, that whole era kind of started.

Speaker 163 Remember, like, she was like, her comeback was considered that performance she gave at the Grammys and she was on the piano, but it wasn't the Star Wars Born.

Speaker 192 It was like she was doing a tribute to someone and that was teeing up a Star is a little bit more.

Speaker 70 It was Oscar's sound as well. It was sounding exactly.

Speaker 184 Yeah, because that was post-star pop.

Speaker 75 It was pre-Joanne, post-star pop.

Speaker 70 So then she does that.

Speaker 235 Then she does

Speaker 70 Till It Happens. No, then she does Joanne.
Then it's Till It Happens to You, Diane Warren. Then it's as she's recording after Joanne, she's recording Star is Born.

Speaker 19 Then

Speaker 70 The Cure, then Ali Main. And Allie, just what, just what a, it was just, pop culture was just fun in that time.

Speaker 185 That was Ari Thank You Next.

Speaker 138 Yes.

Speaker 80 By the way, last night at the, at the special taping during the stop down, they were playing, they started playing Thank You Next.

Speaker 57 And the whole crowd just like starts vibing.

Speaker 248 And Ari from the back just like peeked her head out and was like, what are you guys doing?

Speaker 116 And it was just, we were like, ah!

Speaker 117 That's like fucking.

Speaker 62 Low-key, that's Ariana fucking grande.

Speaker 157 Right.

Speaker 157 Can we just, can we just talk about it?

Speaker 135 I mean, I, I'm happy to.

Speaker 169 Like, where do you want to start?

Speaker 180 Like, well, Eternal Sunshine was your album of the year.

Speaker 176 Eternal Sunshine was my album of the year.

Speaker 151 Yes.

Speaker 167 That album meant so much to me.

Speaker 163 If I listen to an album, like, if I'm listening to it after a night out, it's always going to be my album.

Speaker 128 Like, if it comes out and I go home and I listen to it, I will never forget where I was when I heard We Can't Be Friends for the first time.

Speaker 158 I don't care that it's the most popular song on the album for a reason.

Speaker 90 Also, the deluxe prime example of why wasn't this on the album?

Speaker 133 Which, which was

Speaker 144 Twilight Zone, I was

Speaker 106 I love Worm too.

Speaker 96 I actually thought it was called Worm at first.

Speaker 66 Uh-huh.

Speaker 20 Yeah, I thought it was called Worm when I looked at it.

Speaker 116 I was like, She has a song called Worm.

Speaker 24 Really, what happened was I thought the O was an A, right?

Speaker 78 Or the A was an O, rather.

Speaker 82 See, still, I'm all turned around.

Speaker 66 Oh my gosh.

Speaker 80 No, but the thing I love too about the track listing on it is that We Can't Be Friends goes into I Wish I Hated You, which is, I think,

Speaker 59 like outside of We Can't Be Friends, is my favorite.

Speaker 140 Tell me more.

Speaker 24 I think I just identified with it.

Speaker 66 Yeah.

Speaker 149 Yeah.

Speaker 111 And I think that people have that with that song.

Speaker 175 It's like, I don't know.

Speaker 70 It's an intangible thing that she's, she somehow captured this feeling of like,

Speaker 70 oh, like this thing that you, we feel like maybe too afraid to say, which was, I wish I hated you, but I don't. I love you still.
Like, I should hate you. And that is a very tense feeling.

Speaker 70 We can't be friends, perfect example of the Taylor thing. It can be seen in multiple ways.

Speaker 82 Right.

Speaker 76 I think I wish I I hated you.

Speaker 82 I think it is towards the fans.

Speaker 169 That's my perspective. Yeah.

Speaker 160 Yeah. Oh, you think?

Speaker 164 That is such an interesting take because the paper's in the pens.

Speaker 35 I know that you made me, but I'm still like,

Speaker 27 I don't like how you paint me.

Speaker 70 Don't like how you paint me, but I'm still

Speaker 66 here.

Speaker 82 Wait, like,

Speaker 157 sorry.

Speaker 128 I cannot wait to listen to this song.

Speaker 136 Like, I'm free.

Speaker 151 Like that.

Speaker 129 That song, like, I text it once a week to my best friend, Julia, and I say, I'm still at the restaurant. They've asked me to get up.
I won't leave.

Speaker 24 No. What's the restaurant?

Speaker 90 It's like, you've never never heard this phrase?

Speaker 117 Yeah, I have, but I want you to explain.

Speaker 149 Because everyone wants to go home.

Speaker 107 No, no, no.

Speaker 118 The waiters want to go.

Speaker 41 So I was a waiter, so this hurts.

Speaker 117 No, it's a phrase.

Speaker 128 Do you know where this phrase comes from? No,

Speaker 82 I've heard it.

Speaker 70 I don't know where it comes from. That's why I need you to explain.

Speaker 66 Get all

Speaker 72 men.

Speaker 141 It is from a Taylor Swift song called Right Where You Left Me.

Speaker 192 Oh, yes, yes.

Speaker 139 And she talks about, she's like, I'm still at the restaurant.

Speaker 128 Like, I like, I'm this woman that's been scorned and I won't get up.

Speaker 158 I was broken up with at this restaurant.

Speaker 163 I won't leave. And I send like...

Speaker 82 It's not good etiquette. Well, it's not, but I don't have good etiquette when it comes to this song i won't leave and by the way step away when i hear this live step away

Speaker 124 no get away from me what's your radius what do you need what do you need 10 feet in every direction like i

Speaker 151 oh my god when i hear this song live like don't play with me eternal sunshine was her so far magnum opus you can say that it is thank you next i think it is eternal sunshine i agree i i think she has never been so okay well i think people thank you next was also very on the nose with what she was dealing with at the time, but Eternal Sunshine was just like, oh, there you are.

Speaker 182 Yeah, well, I think. Oh, how I've missed you.

Speaker 167 Like, do you know what I mean?

Speaker 190 Like, I remember front to back in the car with Louise every single day listening to that album.

Speaker 166 Not a single skip on there.

Speaker 175 It felt like the most holistically her.

Speaker 137 You know what I mean? And I think,

Speaker 80 I actually, I think there's really something to the fact that that was created.

Speaker 120 post-Wicked because I think Wicked reconnected her to who she really is.

Speaker 103 Not to say that like every era of Ari isn't great.

Speaker 79 Like I stand positions.

Speaker 80 Like I think front to back, like just in terms of having an experience with music.

Speaker 147 Just like Matcha, just like Mitchell, I love Match.

Speaker 24 I love nasty.

Speaker 40 I love

Speaker 82 3435.

Speaker 187 And I feel like people kind of

Speaker 80 love Sabrina, obsessed with Sabrina, but it feels like the narrative around her is like she's like the comedic pop star, like the funny pop star.

Speaker 24 Ari had jokes, bars, and more.

Speaker 136 Yeah, she still does.

Speaker 152 She likes Ari.

Speaker 181 Maybe I'm going to need a sleep out when I ride it.

Speaker 82 I'll leave it open like a door come inside it.

Speaker 138 It's because, like, you know, she's just, oh, God, I love her.

Speaker 75 Go, go off. I want to say that.

Speaker 125 I just like, I like, I've been listening to Ari for since that first album.

Speaker 163 Like, I remember listening to

Speaker 125 Yours Truly in the Car every single day to school.

Speaker 133 I remember listening to My Everything that entire summer she released it and be like, how is how is this album not bigger? And then, like, you know, Sweetener and Dangerous woman and thank you.

Speaker 151 Like, she just like,

Speaker 129 grateful is the word. Yeah.

Speaker 148 Grateful. Grateful is the word.

Speaker 163 Grateful is the word.

Speaker 172 And like she,

Speaker 163 she really, I'm just very grateful to pop girls that like lay bare their feelings and what they go through and open themselves up to criticism beyond the music.

Speaker 133 And I think she's done that.

Speaker 70 But she just has this like command, obviously, of like technique, which like I take for granted.

Speaker 70 And I think gay men take that for granted in their, in their pop stars because I, whatever, I had to like sing a a number in the special last night and I like took

Speaker 70 vocal lessons from our wonderful coach, Doug Peck, who works with the girls.

Speaker 70 And he goes to me, he was like, when you go to rehearsal these next couple of days and you're watching Ari and Cynthia do their thing, watch where they take their breaths, watch what the shapes they make with their mouths.

Speaker 70 And I, it, something broke in me where I'm like, oh my God, like. These are virtuosic performers.

Speaker 70 And with Ari specifically on the, on the funny pop star thing, it's like I just I can objectively say she's like the funniest fucking person on the planet it's like she she comes to SNL she does her own pre-tape Celine Dion promoting the UFC

Speaker 70 hosts they don't give hosts that solo so that's just her and that sketch carrying it saying pages of dialogue doing a Celine Dion impression and then doing the vocal impression singing like Celine it's like this is crazy like are we are we see are we all seeing this yeah she's she's, she actually is very similar to Gaga.

Speaker 52 Yes. I feel like there's many different forms she takes.

Speaker 183 The wicked moment kind of like feels like the Starsborn moment, even all the way up to the Academy Awards.

Speaker 68 You know what I mean?

Speaker 178 Like, it's, and they're so close, right?

Speaker 106 Like,

Speaker 82 absolutely.

Speaker 111 Well, they'd obviously rain on me, which is right.

Speaker 99 That was so. Thank God.

Speaker 120 I wonder what that song would have felt like without the pandemic.

Speaker 139 Not as special.

Speaker 83 You know what?

Speaker 167 But it's hard to say, like, without the pandemic, because like, I don't even know what life life would have looked like without the pandemic.

Speaker 129 I still haven't processed the pandemic.

Speaker 176 You know what I mean? I'm like, let's do that right now.

Speaker 71 I'm like, wait, that happened.

Speaker 66 You know what I mean?

Speaker 167 But the only way I can process it is be like, okay, well,

Speaker 151 I have to be like, I thank God it happened.

Speaker 159 Not in like a, not in like, you know what I mean?

Speaker 40 We know what you mean.

Speaker 128 Like, I have to be like, well, I wouldn't be here if I didn't go through that.

Speaker 147 Cause like everyone to some extent went through it during the pandemic. Yeah.

Speaker 92 It wasn't easy for anyone.

Speaker 90 Yeah.

Speaker 165 Like, and so

Speaker 163 I feel like you, like, you, we haven't processed all that life we missed, but I think we're going to make up for it.

Speaker 109 I don't know if I can listen to Chromatica and not,

Speaker 78 because it's so crazy because it's so clearly designed, like, even the song Rain on Me, like feeling something in nature on your skin, you know what I mean?

Speaker 83 Like, uh, the

Speaker 107 stupid love music video, being out in the open desert, you know what I mean?

Speaker 103 It just still to me feels like I'm still in Jared's kitchen.

Speaker 112 You know what I mean?

Speaker 96 Like, and just the two of us dancing to it with the dog.

Speaker 181 And there is something

Speaker 106 special and unique about that being such a pandemic album.

Speaker 73 Yeah.

Speaker 175 Because

Speaker 106 it, it did make us dance.

Speaker 24 Like it, it, and we really needed to at that point.

Speaker 117 Yeah. 100%.

Speaker 84 You know, and like, that's something that I hope she

Speaker 106 feels and knows. Like, I feel like that album occupies like a little bit of a weird space.

Speaker 82 I think that's a good idea.

Speaker 70 I think there's like a slider happening in Gaga's

Speaker 70 internal perception of her work right now.

Speaker 70 I don't, I obviously cannot speak to her like mentality around this, but it's like art pop was like the thing like, oh, I don't want to ever think about this again.

Speaker 70 And now it seems like she's embraced it because she understands that like we all love that album in a very specific way.

Speaker 70 And like anytime, like every time applause comes on on the tour, like the room goes crazy.

Speaker 119 Crazy noticed that.

Speaker 62 Yeah.

Speaker 82 Crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 82 It's like,

Speaker 70 it's a fucking like. It's a banger.
It's a banger. It's like a fucking like sleeper activation.
But then fucking, I think now it's landed on that. That's landed on Chromatica.

Speaker 70 And I think over time she will come, hopefully, whatever. We're not.

Speaker 57 She'll come home to Chromatica.

Speaker 27 She'll come home to Chromatica.

Speaker 70 You know what I mean?

Speaker 133 I never really appreciated Chromatica at the time.

Speaker 129 I am embarrassed to say I've admitted this to Matt.

Speaker 165 I was very in like

Speaker 176 he's come clean.

Speaker 129 I was very during the pandemic, I was listening to a lot of like somber music.

Speaker 125 So I was very folklore.

Speaker 155 I listened to Punisher, Phoebe Bridgers.

Speaker 133 Like I was very in that.

Speaker 167 That was how I took my pandemic.

Speaker 155 I was like, I'm going to think.

Speaker 106 Yeah, so for us, I think it was like Chromatica and Future Nostalgia.

Speaker 139 A hundred percent. I had a moment with future nostalgia.

Speaker 129 When I really had my dance moment was when Brat came out.

Speaker 139 And let me tell you something.

Speaker 89 That album changed my life.

Speaker 121 I think it's one of the best of all time.

Speaker 82 Of all time.

Speaker 66 Of all time. Of all time.

Speaker 70 It's our rumors. It's our Fleetwood Mac.

Speaker 185 You know, like

Speaker 77 to some extent.

Speaker 114 Tea and more.

Speaker 82 Bars, T and more.

Speaker 27 These are, these are like interesting, whatever.

Speaker 140 Okay, tell me what you think.

Speaker 128 I think sour is what Jagged Little Pill was.

Speaker 70 Yes. Wow, I was in person.

Speaker 92 Yeah.

Speaker 24 100%.

Speaker 99 Well, see, that's so,

Speaker 96 that's a really apt comparison.

Speaker 80 I do think they occupy a really similar space. You know what's bizarre?

Speaker 84 I saw them a week apart at the Kia Forum.

Speaker 80 I saw Alanis and I saw Olivia Rodrigo like literally seven days apart in the same space.

Speaker 101 And there was

Speaker 184 yeah, it was like it was like an older version of the same.

Speaker 80 But I don't know. Obviously, Obviously, Alanis,

Speaker 120 Olivia's fans are very young and very activated, so they filled that space.

Speaker 106 And Alanis is so legacy now, and everyone knows who she is.

Speaker 116 So it was more general because it was people being like, oh, of course, let's go see Alanis Morrissette.

Speaker 106 It wasn't Olivia fans like, I'm here,

Speaker 118 you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 80 Like, which is not all of them, but I will say there is a lot of sobbing.

Speaker 136 Well, have you ever been?

Speaker 125 Have you guys been to an Olivia Rodrigo concert?

Speaker 177 Yes.

Speaker 128 Bar for bar, there is not a lyric missed in that crowd.

Speaker 92 Oh, no, no, no, no, They're off book.

Speaker 76 They're off books.

Speaker 100 Same is true for Gracie Abrams. Yes.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 120 There were girls at the Gracie Abrams show forming large circles,

Speaker 101 holding hands

Speaker 110 and like literally spinning in a circle, like ringing around the rosie style, singing like, let it happen.

Speaker 166 Have you seen them do the mosh pit?

Speaker 106 The Gracie Abrams mosh pit.

Speaker 135 Yeah, it's electric.

Speaker 117 They do a Gracie Abrams mosh pit.

Speaker 141 I forget to what song.

Speaker 135 It is spectacular.

Speaker 71 Holy shit.

Speaker 83 Yeah.

Speaker 180 I missed the mosh pit.

Speaker 106 I didn't miss the

Speaker 59 holding hands in.

Speaker 183 And there was that one.

Speaker 180 There was one song where everyone was just crying hard.

Speaker 66 What song was it? Do you remember?

Speaker 86 I don't remember which one it was, but it was such a catharsis.

Speaker 94 And I was like, I'm so happy that these girls are having this.

Speaker 131 Was it that so true?

Speaker 106 No, that's so true was for everyone.

Speaker 24 Yeah.

Speaker 184 Like there was one song.

Speaker 94 I'm losing which one it is.

Speaker 86 I'm having like a weird brain day, but there was one song where it was like, the girls, this was their three and a half minutes

Speaker 36 to really let it out.

Speaker 115 I love you, I'm sorry.

Speaker 124 It wasn't I Love You, I'm Sorry, because I miss you, I'm sorry, it wasn't I Miss You, I'm Sorry,

Speaker 82 I'm sorry,

Speaker 82 it wasn't.

Speaker 78 Okay, it wasn't I'm sorry, my single.

Speaker 82 It has to be a third one, right?

Speaker 70 What was the first one?

Speaker 52 Well, there's a I miss you, I'm sorry, I love you, I'm sorry, but then the first thing there has to be a third one, right?

Speaker 79 Gracie, you got to do that.

Speaker 128 That I mean, she will, she must

Speaker 193 On eBay, every find has a story.

Speaker 194 Like if you're looking for a vintage band tea.

Speaker 197 Not just a tea, the band tee.

Speaker 69 From the last show your favorite band ever played.

Speaker 27 You wore it everywhere.

Speaker 70 Then your boyfriend started wearing it.

Speaker 198 Which was cute until he dumped you and took it with him.

Speaker 195 Which was not so cute.

Speaker 199 But he was. I miss him.

Speaker 112 Anyway, now you're on eBay.

Speaker 200 And there it is, same tea from the same tour still living in your memory rent-free forever.

Speaker 108 Yeah.

Speaker 201 Screw you, Dave.

Speaker 2 The things you love have a way of finding their way back to you.

Speaker 74 Except Dave.

Speaker 127 But eBay isn't just forget whatever your ex/slash XBFF stole back.

Speaker 199 We miss you.

Speaker 203 It's also for that rare championship foul ball that you caught, then heroically gave to the kid next to you.

Speaker 197 You're welcome, Scoot.

Speaker 105 And where else are you going to find your first car, a RAV4 from 2003?

Speaker 49 The one you wish you never sold, but now finally got the chance to take back home.

Speaker 70 I'm buying a car on eBay for good this time.

Speaker 113 Shop eBay for millions of finds, each with a story.

Speaker 197 eBay.

Speaker 85 Things people love.

Speaker 97 I'll take a tagline.

Speaker 28 No one can resist a rule of culture.

Speaker 208 So here's one for the dating files.

Speaker 63 Rule of culture number 72.

Speaker 209 Chemistry isn't just vibes, it's values.

Speaker 36 Because what's the point of matching with someone if you can't talk about the shows you binge, the books you dog ear, or all the hot takes you'll defend at brunch?

Speaker 210 I mean, you definitely have friends who have met their partners on Bumble, and it makes sense.

Speaker 213 It's not just about matching with someone, it's about finding someone who gets your references, your obsessions, your whole vibe.

Speaker 5 With shared interests and prompts, you don't just see a profile.

Speaker 217 You get a glimpse of someone's personality, which makes it even easier to start conversations that actually lead somewhere.

Speaker 219 Plus, with photo and ID verification, you can trust that the person you're talking to is real.

Speaker 220 With that added peace of mind, it's so much easier to show up as your full self.

Speaker 7 So whether your rule of culture is the best first state, start with the shared hot take on Renaissance, or compatibility is having the same hometown bodega order, download Bumble and turn those connections into something bigger.

Speaker 222 Download Bumble and start your love story.

Speaker 45 You ever just stop in the middle of a crazy day and realize, wow, I needed a break.

Speaker 223 It literally happened to me yesterday.

Speaker 224 I cracked open a Diet Coke, sat back for five minutes, total reset.

Speaker 13 Right?

Speaker 225 There's something about the crispy, refreshing taste of an ice-cold Diet Coke.

Speaker 226 It just hits.

Speaker 227 It's my little me moment, like make time for a Diet Coke break, you know?

Speaker 228 Exactly.

Speaker 20 Diet Coke is the perfect companion for all break moments.

Speaker 203 Diet Coke Coke.

Speaker 65 This is my taste.

Speaker 50 Two questions. What are you doing right now?

Speaker 33 And why aren't you on a Virgin Voyages Caribbean cruise?

Speaker 214 Well, obviously, you were listening to us. Smart use of your time.

Speaker 211 True.

Speaker 33 But you could also be on a Virgin Voyages Caribbean cruise at the same time.

Speaker 34 That's just brilliant time management.

Speaker 232 Very true.

Speaker 233 This gives me an idea.

Speaker 234 Let's do a quick cruise quiz. Ready?

Speaker 235 First, cruise dining.

Speaker 237 Do you prefer a buffet or a curated dining experience with access to 20 distinct restaurants?

Speaker 203 Curated dining.

Speaker 238 Next. Okay, good choice.

Speaker 239 That's what Virgin Voyages offers.

Speaker 240 Second question.

Speaker 64 Would you rather have an overstuffed itinerary or the freedom to to explore stunning?

Speaker 241 Oh, I want the freedom to explore stunning Caribbean destinations.

Speaker 15 Again, I think I see where this quiz is going.

Speaker 60 Virgin Voyages is amazing.

Speaker 242 Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 243 The cruises are kid-free.

Speaker 244 From sunrise yoga to late-night cocktails, every moment is made for grown-up fun.

Speaker 246 Nothing against kids.

Speaker 56 Kids are awesome, but sometimes it's nice to be kid-free.

Speaker 248 And there's so much included value, over $1,000.

Speaker 54 Right, over $1,000 of awesomeness all included.

Speaker 51 Wi-Fi, soda, top-tier entertainment, over 20 restaurants, and even group fitness classes.

Speaker 46 No hidden fees, no surprise charges.

Speaker 37 Virgin Voyages gives you the kind of luxury you actually deserve.

Speaker 250 And you know what?

Speaker 174 I deserve luxury.

Speaker 251 You do, and me too.

Speaker 247 Yes, there's always something happening on board.

Speaker 252 From wellness-focused sailings to epic holiday voyages, live music, DJs, themed parties, and more.

Speaker 214 Boredom doesn't board the ship.

Speaker 55 And there are so many amazing stops.

Speaker 254 You leave from Miami and sail to places like Grand Cayman, Jamaica, Puerto Rico, and the Dominican Republic.

Speaker 47 Virgin even has their own private beach club in Bibini.

Speaker 48 And they're adding stops in 2025 and 2026.

Speaker 28 Yeah, like Aruba, St.

Speaker 105 Lucia, and Curaçao.

Speaker 255 But it's not all go, go, go.

Speaker 240 Right, you can totally go into relaxation mode too.

Speaker 256 Your cabin is a full-on sanctuary.

Speaker 195 Private terrace, ocean views, and their signature red hammock just waiting for you to swing.

Speaker 12 Oh, and did I mention Virgin Voyages is launching a new ship, the Brilliant Lady?

Speaker 32 Brilliant name, by the way.

Speaker 34 She's bigger, bolder, and packed with even more Virgin Wow Factor.

Speaker 43 Book now at virginvoyages.com or contact your travel advisor.

Speaker 37 That's virginvoyages.com.

Speaker 70 Worst behaved audience based on the girl.

Speaker 70 Can we say this?

Speaker 155 Okay, who do you think?

Speaker 70 I have an answer.

Speaker 166 Okay, let me just give me a second.

Speaker 117 Worst behaved audience.

Speaker 70 I have an answer, and it's not fair. It's not a reflection on the person.
It's the parents of the children who are fucked up.

Speaker 44 Okay.

Speaker 70 I'm going to make this an age thing.

Speaker 72 Okay. What were they doing?

Speaker 24 There was a girl at East Rutherford.

Speaker 61 Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 82 We were at the New York show.

Speaker 132 We were at the New York show because every time I went to the era's tour, it was like,

Speaker 77 hi, happy. And it was like, hi, I'm so happy.

Speaker 57 Overall, amazing vibe.

Speaker 70 I just get the sense.

Speaker 70 Anecdotally, I've gotten, I've gotten different stories of like,

Speaker 70 this is a kid's, this is the best day of this girl's life.

Speaker 83 Right. Okay.

Speaker 70 And the parent is so protective of that

Speaker 70 that it affects like a gay guy. Right.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 128 Did something happen where you were like, yeah,

Speaker 70 this girl kept like getting into my space, like as demarketed by the chair,

Speaker 70 kept like arm in my fucking eye. It's just, it's a lot of fun.

Speaker 27 You know what, Aeros Tour, we love it.

Speaker 70 I went six times.

Speaker 70 I always had a great time.

Speaker 35 It is, I do think it's the kind of show,

Speaker 196 and I think this is just stadium shows, maybe.

Speaker 70 So it's like a, it's like a venue size issue, but it's like, you do get a lot of like phone arm and those swing into your eyeline.

Speaker 35 And then I just like told this girl, I was like, you're at a concert.

Speaker 70 Yeah. I was like, you're at, you're at a concert.

Speaker 83 Good for you.

Speaker 81 But then the mom got,

Speaker 70 got in my face and was like, you're a bit, you're, you're, you're getting in her space. And I'm like, no, I'm not.
Right. I'm just watching this, this artist that I love perform.

Speaker 70 So I'm, you know, this is maybe not fair for me to like zero in on this one example, but I'm going to say that's my answer.

Speaker 187 It's you, I will say, this is not global.

Speaker 120 I remember this and I remember being like, this is something, because he, he does, he,

Speaker 120 You get into it with people when they're, when they have bad attitudes.

Speaker 70 Well, like that, like Miss Thing at Titanique and London.

Speaker 57 Titanique in London.

Speaker 70 On Microsoft Excel on her phone during the show.

Speaker 146 Two glasses of wine in her hands, two, double-fisting glasses of wine

Speaker 137 on a spreadsheet in front of her.

Speaker 146 The fucking screen is full blast brightness.

Speaker 24 And she's like full conversation with the row of people.

Speaker 117 That's true.

Speaker 82 Four different things happening.

Speaker 24 But when she's over, I mean, you were at a live theater.

Speaker 100 And she goes,

Speaker 138 It's like that moment in dance moms where they say to Abby Lee, like, I thought you preached theater or dance etiquette, you know, and she's out of there.

Speaker 180 But it's also funny because, like, Bowen does this, and these people, like, deeply know who he is.

Speaker 82 Right. So then

Speaker 61 I know you don't care. For you.
I know you don't care.

Speaker 151 And I respect that so much.

Speaker 68 I just, I don't like, I don't like that they have bad behavior.

Speaker 106 They have very bad behavior.

Speaker 95 And then you call them out on it. And then it becomes Bowen Yang snapped at me.

Speaker 82 Sure. Whatever.

Speaker 70 Tell it to the mountain. Right.

Speaker 160 Tell it on the the mountain.

Speaker 90 I think, though, there is like a phone.

Speaker 122 Oh, tell it on the mountain.

Speaker 82 What were we saying, Jay?

Speaker 186 I think that there's a phone problem at concerts.

Speaker 128 I really actively, when I am at concerts, I try not to go on my phone.

Speaker 129 I really, and every greatest moment of my life at a concert, I remember being, I wasn't on my phone.

Speaker 132 I.E.

Speaker 130 the Archer Taylor Swift, I.e.

Speaker 128 after hours at the weekend,

Speaker 151 I.E.

Speaker 90 like

Speaker 132 what, motion sickness at the Phoebe Bridgers Coachella show.

Speaker 141 Like, I'm just like, oh, I'm not on my phone.

Speaker 162 I'm like, oh, like, I'm feeling the

Speaker 191 like, you know what I mean?

Speaker 133 Like, I feel my environment to this music that I'm seeing right now.

Speaker 59 Have you had Billie Eilish on your show?

Speaker 89 No, I would love to.

Speaker 144 Have you guys had her?

Speaker 79 No, we've not had her yet.

Speaker 70 But she's, she's the best.

Speaker 79 She's number one.

Speaker 133 She's amazing.

Speaker 128 Her shows are amazing.

Speaker 169 I think she's one of the few people we haven't had on that

Speaker 125 would make me nervous.

Speaker 66 I don't know why.

Speaker 106 Because she's probably a cool vibe.

Speaker 82 She's a cool vibe, but she's such a genius.

Speaker 70 She's disarming.

Speaker 82 I think she's very like, hey, I don't know.

Speaker 119 That's my Billy Eilish impression.

Speaker 107 This is mine. This is mine.

Speaker 66 Yeah, that's actually quite good.

Speaker 90 But on the flip side, the best audience I have ever, ever been a part of, Carly Ray.

Speaker 82 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 34 Because everyone's Canadian.

Speaker 72 Canadian.

Speaker 94 Everyone's spiritually Canadian when they see Carly Ray Japson concert.

Speaker 78 That's actually culture number 30.

Speaker 106 Everyone's spiritually Canadian when they see a Carly Ray Justin concert.

Speaker 155 And I agree because I saw her 10 years of emotion.

Speaker 147 She did that sucky.

Speaker 139 Oh my God, I full body chills.

Speaker 128 She did the album front to back.

Speaker 117 And everyone was just like, how happy are you to be here?

Speaker 163 Remind me to show you the video I have of that starting.

Speaker 119 No one knew that was coming.

Speaker 172 She gets out on stage.

Speaker 163 All we hear is the trumpets, and it's game over.

Speaker 125 It's game over. We're like, oh shit, she's doing it front to back.

Speaker 88 Because guess what?

Speaker 70 That's a moment where I go, you're at a concert. Right.
Have fun.

Speaker 81 Enjoy it.

Speaker 141 Back in the day before phones, like, imagine how awesome it was.

Speaker 192 Everyone just let loose.

Speaker 166 Like, there is this, like, I do wonder, like, there is this thing where it's like, oh, I kind of feel embarrassed to dance sometimes.

Speaker 90 I wish I didn't feel that way.

Speaker 81 But you're always dancing, don't you?

Speaker 169 But not as, not, not like I could.

Speaker 134 What?

Speaker 151 I could. I could really like, I'm very dramatic.

Speaker 157 I mean, this guy goes to the gym with Tate.

Speaker 110 We don't know what she's teaching him.

Speaker 70 We don't know what she's teaching him.

Speaker 149 We don't know the combos that he knows.

Speaker 106 Right.

Speaker 70 Jake, I think you have a 10-foot radius rule at every concert.

Speaker 119 Well, back away.

Speaker 91 Would you say

Speaker 126 back? Step away from it. Step away.

Speaker 134 When you get the eternal one shine tour, get the fuck away from it. Get the fuck away.

Speaker 193 On eBay, every find has a story.

Speaker 194 Like if you're looking for a vintage band tee.

Speaker 196 Not just a tea, the band tee.

Speaker 69 From the last show, your favorite band ever played.

Speaker 27 He wore it everywhere.

Speaker 70 Then your boyfriend started wearing it.

Speaker 198 Which was cute. Until he dumped you and took it with him.

Speaker 195 Which was not so cute.

Speaker 199 But he was. I miss him.

Speaker 112 Anyway, now you're on eBay. And there it is.

Speaker 200 Same tea from the same tour still living in your memory rent-free forever.

Speaker 123 Yeah.

Speaker 201 Screw you, Dave.

Speaker 2 The things you love have a way of finding their way back to you.

Speaker 74 Except Dave.

Speaker 127 But eBay isn't just forget whatever your ex/slash XBFF stole back.

Speaker 199 We miss you.

Speaker 203 It's also for that rare championship foul ball that you caught, then heroically gave to the kid next to you.

Speaker 197 You're welcome, Scoot.

Speaker 105 And where else are you going to find your first car?

Speaker 206 A RAV4 from 2003?

Speaker 49 The one you wish you never sold, but now finally got the chance to take back home.

Speaker 70 I'm buying a car on eBay for good this time.

Speaker 113 Shop eBay for millions of finds, each with a story.

Speaker 197 eBay.

Speaker 85 Things people love.

Speaker 97 Let's take a tagline.

Speaker 28 No one can resist a rule of culture.

Speaker 208 So here's one for the dating files.

Speaker 63 Rule of culture number 72.

Speaker 209 Chemistry isn't just vibes, it's values.

Speaker 36 Because what's the point of matching with someone if you can't talk about the shows you binge, the books you dog ear, or all the hot takes you'll defend at brunch?

Speaker 210 I mean, you definitely have friends who have met their partners on Bumble, and it makes sense.

Speaker 213 It's not just about matching with someone, it's about finding someone who gets your references, your obsessions, your whole vibe.

Speaker 5 With shared interests and prompts, you don't just see a profile.

Speaker 217 You get a glimpse of someone's personality, which makes it even easier to start conversations that actually lead somewhere.

Speaker 219 Plus, with photo and ID verification, you can trust that the person you're talking to is real.

Speaker 220 With that added peace of mind, it's so much easier to show up as your full self.

Speaker 7 So whether your rule of culture is the best first state, start with the shared hot take on Renaissance, or compatibility is having the same hometown bodega order, download Bumble and turn those connections into something bigger.

Speaker 222 Download Bumble and start your love story.

Speaker 45 You ever just stop in the middle of a crazy day and realize, wow, I needed a break.

Speaker 223 It literally happened to me yesterday.

Speaker 224 I cracked open a Diet Coke, sat back for five minutes.

Speaker 73 Total reset.

Speaker 13 Right?

Speaker 225 There's something about the crispy, refreshing taste of an ice-cold Diet Coke.

Speaker 226 It just hits.

Speaker 227 It's my little me moment, like, make time for a Diet Coke break, you know?

Speaker 228 Exactly.

Speaker 69 Diet Coke is the perfect companion for all break moments.

Speaker 65 Diet Coke, this is my taste.

Speaker 50 Two questions. What are you doing right now?

Speaker 33 And why aren't you on a Virgin Voyages Caribbean cruise?

Speaker 214 Well, obviously, you were listening to us. Smart use of your time.

Speaker 211 True.

Speaker 33 But you could also be on a Virgin Voyages Caribbean cruise at the same time.

Speaker 34 That's just brilliant time management.

Speaker 232 Very true.

Speaker 233 This gives me an idea.

Speaker 234 Let's do a quick cruise quiz. Ready?

Speaker 235 First, cruise dining.

Speaker 237 Do you prefer a buffet or a curated dining experience with access to 20 distinct restaurants?

Speaker 203 Curated dining.

Speaker 238 Next. Okay, good choice.

Speaker 239 That's what Virgin Voyages offers.

Speaker 240 Second question.

Speaker 64 Would you rather have an overstuffed itinerary or the freedom to explore stunning Caribbean?

Speaker 241 Oh, I want want the freedom to explore stunning Caribbean destinations.

Speaker 15 Again, I think I see where this quiz is going.

Speaker 60 Virgin Voyages is amazing.

Speaker 242 Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 243 The cruises are kid-free.

Speaker 244 From sunrise yoga to late-night cocktails, every moment is made for grown-up fun.

Speaker 246 Nothing against kids.

Speaker 56 Kids are awesome, but sometimes it's nice to be kid-free.

Speaker 247 And there's so much included value, over $1,000.

Speaker 54 Right, over $1,000 of awesomeness all included.

Speaker 51 Wi-Fi, soda, top-tier entertainment, over 20 restaurants, and even group fitness classes.

Speaker 14 No hidden fees, no surprise charges.

Speaker 37 Virgin Voyages gives you the kind of luxury you actually deserve.

Speaker 250 And you know what?

Speaker 174 I deserve luxury.

Speaker 251 You do, and me too.

Speaker 247 Yes, there's always something happening on board.

Speaker 252 From wellness-focused sailings to epic holiday voyages, live music, DJs, themed parties, and more.

Speaker 214 Boredom doesn't board the ship.

Speaker 55 And there are so many amazing stops.

Speaker 253 You leave from Miami and sail to places like Grand Cayman, Jamaica, Puerto Rico, and the Dominican Republic.

Speaker 47 Virgin even has their own private beach club in Bimini.

Speaker 48 And they're adding stops in 2025 and 2026.

Speaker 28 Yeah, like Aruba, St.

Speaker 105 Lucia, and Caraçao.

Speaker 255 But it's not all go, go, go.

Speaker 240 Right, you can totally go into relaxation mode too.

Speaker 256 Your cabin is a full-on sanctuary.

Speaker 195 Private terrace, ocean views, and their signature red hammock just waiting for you to swing.

Speaker 12 Oh, and did I mention Virgin Voyages is launching a new ship, The Brilliant Lady?

Speaker 32 Brilliant name, by the way.

Speaker 34 She's bigger, bolder, and packed with even more Virgin Wow Factor.

Speaker 43 Book now at virginvoyages.com or contact your travel advisor.

Speaker 37 That's virginvoyages.com.

Speaker 70 What What was Austin like? Tell us.

Speaker 164 Austin's great. The food's great.

Speaker 128 The camaraderie is great.

Speaker 167 Everyone, like, when we were at the UT game, everyone was like, like, I went to USC, right?

Speaker 129 And I thought, like, everyone at those games was like so in it.

Speaker 133 But, like, no, like, Austin, like, the team is really good.

Speaker 128 So, everyone's like, really in it.

Speaker 132 Like, people say to the end of that game.

Speaker 70 You and Kaya were screaming hook'em horns by the way.

Speaker 125 We were screaming.

Speaker 72 I love that girl.

Speaker 133 I mean, she is the greatest of all time.

Speaker 177 She's so cool.

Speaker 82 So smart.

Speaker 72 So cool. Yeah.

Speaker 171 So talented. Yeah.

Speaker 98 So smart.

Speaker 62 She really works her ass off.

Speaker 120 Yep.

Speaker 80 Like, I feel like she, I just recently went in to do some like ADR for Pomeroyale and where there was a scene where it ended together.

Speaker 80 And the performance that she was giving, I was like, this girl is committed to it.

Speaker 166 Oh, yeah. She studies her craft.

Speaker 124 Yeah. And she, she,

Speaker 133 she is very, very, very, very smart.

Speaker 166 She does library science.

Speaker 70 Like, she, when pretty people read, I'm like, damn it.

Speaker 126 And talk about pretty.

Speaker 66 I mean,

Speaker 90 rock dead gorgeous. Right.

Speaker 70 Really?

Speaker 190 He's he's not even what am i what's like but yes we had the best time she's like we had like she was just like so along for the ride like just like we had so much fun we like we we drank non-stop and like it was great it was great

Speaker 160 my taco suggestion no you didn't and i wish you had torches is what well i'm gone now but i am going to dallas tonight so what's mr powell like i've always been curious i've got a talk about a hard worker he seems like a fun guy he's number one, very fun.

Speaker 133 Number two, a great friend.

Speaker 165 And I know that because he is surrounded by number one, his family and number two, people that he's known for 20 plus years.

Speaker 126 Yeah.

Speaker 96 You can always tell.

Speaker 140 And like they are, all they do all the time is just reminisce and talk about these funny stories.

Speaker 133 And what I gather from all these stories is that he's never changed.

Speaker 169 That's

Speaker 90 hard to do.

Speaker 151 Yes.

Speaker 133 And I think, and his friends really ride for him and he really rides for his friends. His friends were all there this weekend.

Speaker 138 And he's he's just a great guy.

Speaker 151 He's a great guy. He's a very

Speaker 117 talented talented.

Speaker 175 And I think that because he's so, he's sort of a McConaughey vibe.

Speaker 82 Yeah.

Speaker 68 Where it's like, because he's so like handsome and charismatic and action-y and like sort of presents as like, I'm the comedy action guy that people aren't getting how good he is.

Speaker 119 Well, they will.

Speaker 133 I'm pretty sure his slate for the upcoming year is like going to gag people.

Speaker 90 Trying to do that.

Speaker 147 Yeah.

Speaker 135 And by the way, the new show, Chad Powers, Laugh Out Loud.

Speaker 126 Really?

Speaker 136 Laugh Out Loud.

Speaker 100 Did you watch?

Speaker 70 I I have not watched.

Speaker 78 I just very funny.

Speaker 133 He is very good.

Speaker 153 Number one, he's a very talented actor.

Speaker 133 Number two, he's very good at being

Speaker 132 like the celebrity actor.

Speaker 133 Like he's very good at all of it.

Speaker 62 He's good.

Speaker 151 And he's also a good guy.

Speaker 35 And like, can we just end the whole like, there are no stars anymore conversation? Like,

Speaker 157 there are.

Speaker 150 There are. There are.

Speaker 96 I feel like there are lots of stars.

Speaker 177 There are lots of stars.

Speaker 163 I just think we're in this like weird moment where it's like

Speaker 167 digital and traditional.

Speaker 133 It's like finally maybe merging in this like very weird way and like we're not used to it.

Speaker 94 There's no rules anymore.

Speaker 24 Yeah, there's no, that's it.

Speaker 170 There's no rules anymore because ultimately here's when the rules were broken when Kim Kardashian became like went from Kim K to now being Vogue cover star.

Speaker 52 Yeah, I mean that that was I think she is emblematic of the change in our culture more than anyone else.

Speaker 66 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 175 Is what happened from her start to right now because another thing is she is fully the star of a full-blown Ryan Murphy show with, and she's number one on that call sheet.

Speaker 72 And who's below her?

Speaker 111 Glenn Close.

Speaker 44 Sarah Paulson.

Speaker 44 What?

Speaker 98 You didn't know about this?

Speaker 82 She's below her on the call sheet?

Speaker 178 Yeah, because she's the star of the show.

Speaker 107 Top Billing. She's number one.

Speaker 150 She's the most, she's the lead of it.

Speaker 100 So, yeah, all's fair.

Speaker 68 It's coming out on Hulu.

Speaker 50 Sarah Paulson's going to come on the show.

Speaker 115 Love her.

Speaker 72 We've not met her, but she's the most talented.

Speaker 150 But like, love her. Yeah, she's sort of like a limitless talent.

Speaker 82 But this is what I'm saying: it's like Kim K is the lead of that show.

Speaker 138 That's crazy.

Speaker 88 Yeah, she is very emblematic of that shift in culture.

Speaker 139 And I think about that all the time because I remember, obviously, watching her, and everyone was like, Well, she'll never do high fashion, she'll never do this.

Speaker 129 And then suddenly she was on the cover of Vogue and everything changed.

Speaker 68 Yeah, I mean, I don't think at this point, I don't like whether you agree or disagree, like she is a prestige presence at things, right?

Speaker 70 No doubt.

Speaker 129 Yeah, yeah, that's like objective. Like, it's everyone knows her.

Speaker 24 Yeah.

Speaker 114 And I also think that that is the currency now because I even hear it from like my agents and stuff.

Speaker 103 They're like, yeah, it used to be kind of a rumor that, you know, like your presence on social or like your presence in the world, like your name recognition didn't matter as much as, you know.

Speaker 80 just going into the audition and nailing it, but that's all a lie.

Speaker 111 It does matter.

Speaker 79 Like

Speaker 19 it's bottom line driven.

Speaker 104 And I think we know that now.

Speaker 80 So this idea that like, I'm just going to keep my head down and work and, you know, maybe go to Juilliard or like whatever, that's all well and good, but it's just not a realistic depiction of how things work anymore.

Speaker 24 It's just not.

Speaker 120 Otherwise, you know, God bless her, but I just don't think that Kim K as an actress would be number one on a call sheet above Glenn Close and Sarah Paul.

Speaker 147 Never. Of course not.

Speaker 90 It's all about social currency.

Speaker 147 Right.

Speaker 94 And she may, she may gag the girls.

Speaker 82 She may gag the girls.

Speaker 150 And I just want to say something to everyone here who sets up the mics.

Speaker 184 Thank you. And everyone here who sets up the rigs.

Speaker 137 Thank you. Because you've given us a platform to be gay guys with voices.

Speaker 1 And maybe gay guys with voices is title of that.

Speaker 70 Gay guys with voices is title of that.

Speaker 128 That, I think, is a great depiction of what we do.

Speaker 88 I think that is a great depiction of gay guys.

Speaker 24 We are a depiction.

Speaker 94 Before we do Adam Things 20, should we at least throw Beyoncé a bone here?

Speaker 82 100%.

Speaker 107 Like, we didn't even, we didn't even, we paid.

Speaker 72 I know we didn't even talk about her.

Speaker 90 I'll tell you my favorite album by her.

Speaker 139 Go.

Speaker 147 If you're interested.

Speaker 119 Well, is it B-Day?

Speaker 138 No, it's not.

Speaker 135 There's two. It's self-titled and four.

Speaker 89 Well, yes. Well,

Speaker 70 God bless you. God bless you.

Speaker 106 Lemonade is the best one, but

Speaker 111 I mean school and life.

Speaker 145 Oh, my God, my daughter.

Speaker 66 You really are his daughter.

Speaker 117 I miss you.

Speaker 83 I miss you like every day.

Speaker 145 You know what doesn't get the

Speaker 145 respect?

Speaker 77 Tonight I'm going to dance for you.

Speaker 124 You know what?

Speaker 106 At the time, everyone was like, oh my God, this is the one.

Speaker 52 And then it was quickly forgotten.

Speaker 80 And then she does it again live.

Speaker 117 And it's I care.

Speaker 92 Oh.

Speaker 90 Oh, I got it.

Speaker 90 Also, prime example of she thought culture gave up on her after that.

Speaker 135 Self-titled.

Speaker 23 Yeah.

Speaker 168 I swear, it's like a trend.

Speaker 70 But wait, can I talk to you about school in life?

Speaker 176 Yeah, it's the best song ever.

Speaker 70 Two things were happening in the summer of 2012. I was applying to med school, but I was like, this is the wrong choice.
I am depressed.

Speaker 123 Probably going to move back in with my parents in Colorado.

Speaker 70 I want to do comedy secretly, but I don't think I should pursue it. How old were you? 21.
We had just graduated. We just graduated at NYU.

Speaker 70 And like, I'd seen Matt at some like party in the spring the last time. Like, we were like, we were not like...
the close that we are now. Basically, the headline is, I was depressed.

Speaker 70 And then what snapped me out of it was me walking down Broadway.

Speaker 70 School and Life Comes On. Something about that play felt different.
I listened to the time many times before, but then the lyric,

Speaker 70 stop living in regret, baby. It's not over yet.

Speaker 82 Oh my God, I'm going to throw up.

Speaker 90 I'm seriously going to throw up.

Speaker 139 I totally forgot about that.

Speaker 152 That song is so fucking beautiful.

Speaker 70 It's the most beautiful, goofy movie-ass song you've ever heard in your life. That 90s, like,

Speaker 92 goofy movie.

Speaker 128 Did you watch the accompany accompanying doc documentary like it's better dream yes of course we watched like or or the road to four whatever she did she did like

Speaker 117 demi lovada was just on and i i go i've seen all your documentaries every single one front to back what'd she say thank you

Speaker 160 i have seen every by the way that new album you're gonna get

Speaker 144 you

Speaker 92 up it's called it's not that deep and is it like it's deep it's deep it's deep it's that deep any standouts because it'll be out by this time yeah

Speaker 178 frequency well we're gonna play some tracks okay i'm very curious there's a song called frequency so basically it's like it's like really hard club sounds for like fags like so it feels like it feels like there's like definitely the

Speaker 158 brat influence but with demi vocals do you think it's gonna be her txo xo in the moment it's gonna be like me and then everyone's gonna be like where were we i definitely want the girls to be responding more to what's out there already because fast and hero night are out there right now as we're recording this.

Speaker 106 And I feel like the girls are being slow to it.

Speaker 254 But we're telling you the new Demi is going to

Speaker 108 be you up.

Speaker 66 And

Speaker 70 I don't care.

Speaker 70 They said this on Let Me Say This. Peyton Dex said this on her podcast with Hunter Harris.
She goes, I don't want to hear that Demi Lovato isn't Brat. The girl did fucking heroin.

Speaker 76 100%. I checked her.

Speaker 70 She was not binary for two weeks.

Speaker 146 That's the most, those are the most brat coded.

Speaker 116 She spoke to a ghost.

Speaker 117 She punched a girl on a plane. She said,

Speaker 145 ghost.

Speaker 78 She said, I'm going to beat that bitch up.

Speaker 82 I'm going to beat that bitch up. She did.

Speaker 70 Yeah, she's brat. Like, I don't want to hear it.

Speaker 147 Oh, Demi is so brat.

Speaker 76 And she was Camp Rock.

Speaker 100 And she was Camp Rock.

Speaker 137 That's the most brat thing ever.

Speaker 106 Camp Rock was Demi's boom clap.

Speaker 82 And like, was she on drive?

Speaker 76 That's actually rock culture number 10.

Speaker 76 Camp Rock was Demi's boom clap.

Speaker 70 She was mean to Raven Simone on Sunny with a Chance.

Speaker 104 And they confronted each other.

Speaker 140 Simone was on Sunny with a Chance.

Speaker 70 She guest starred on Sunny with a Chance. And then they talk about it in the child's hard documentary.
They like interview each other.

Speaker 70 Well, Demi interviews Raven and Raven was like, you were not the nicest. And it's actually iconic.
And the Demi's like, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 92 Wow. Both.

Speaker 103 Because Raven was, big man, because Demi was on drugs.

Speaker 139 Many. Many.

Speaker 122 But I will say she seems great.

Speaker 111 And her work is incredible.

Speaker 52 I mean, like, it's really, really, really good.

Speaker 121 And then we heard the final song is called Ghost.

Speaker 112 And basically now, when you Google Demi Lovato Ghost,

Speaker 110 it's not just her singing to a ghost is going to come up. Also, a song Ghost, which makes it genius.

Speaker 79 Brandon Creed.

Speaker 124 Brandon Creed. Wait, words out of my mouth.

Speaker 90 Manager of the year.

Speaker 66 Oh, it's 100% what he's doing. Manager of Song of Year.

Speaker 70 I saw him last night. Manager of the year.

Speaker 143 Oh, my God.

Speaker 66 I was literally about to talk about him.

Speaker 161 He is exceptional.

Speaker 144 Yeah.

Speaker 147 Role model, Demi, Charlie, Ariana, Troy Sivon. Am I missing someone?

Speaker 172 I think that's

Speaker 144 a healthy roster. That's the T.

Speaker 147 He has Mark Bronson. I guess Tim and Paula.

Speaker 83 Such a cool roster.

Speaker 57 He and Tim and Paula have the same trainer.

Speaker 138 Do you really?

Speaker 80 And I didn't know this until I get to my trainer and this guy, Kevin, is leaving.

Speaker 134 And

Speaker 68 my trainer JR goes, oh, do you know?

Speaker 110 Also, Benny Drama's trainer.

Speaker 94 He goes, oh, do you know Kevin?

Speaker 76 I was like, oh, no, hi. He leaves.

Speaker 80 And then my trainer JR goes, yeah, I really like his music.

Speaker 82 And I go, who is that?

Speaker 68 And he goes, Tame and Paula. And I was like, for sure.

Speaker 176 Right, you got to go.

Speaker 176 I walked off.

Speaker 178 I was like, you got to be kidding.

Speaker 94 I didn't know it was him because because he had a different hairstyle.

Speaker 139 Have you ever heard the song Eventually by them?

Speaker 82 No.

Speaker 176 Give it a listen.

Speaker 178 So gay guys like Tim and Paula.

Speaker 40 Not only,

Speaker 90 like, I like the only type of music like that I like is like Tim and Paula, and I love the strokes.

Speaker 57 You do? You're going to love Coachella.

Speaker 128 Dude, every time I've seen the strokes multiple times, like at festivals, and I always leave before my favorite song of all time comes on, someday by the strokes.

Speaker 177 Why do you leave?

Speaker 164 Because it's like, no one else wants to hear the strokes.

Speaker 163 And it's my favorite.

Speaker 82 And also, like, have you ever heard of of the stroke somebody? Are you going to go to Coachella?

Speaker 143 Yes.

Speaker 82 Okay, well, do you go to the strokes with me? Yeah, we'll go to the strokes. You heard it here first.

Speaker 24 You Jake, we're going to the strokes together.

Speaker 88 Okay, as long as it's not at the same time.

Speaker 76 It points to every camera.

Speaker 77 You heard it here first.

Speaker 140 Well, seriously, don't I'm not forgetting as long as it's not at the same time as Bieber Cella because I will not miss Biebercella.

Speaker 70 Well, Biebercella

Speaker 70 might not star on time. Let's just say that.

Speaker 88 Right.

Speaker 118 But if Biebercella, if Biebercella is happening, he needs to do Ghost also, which is you know the rumor I heard that I heard a rumor that they have Sizza booked.

Speaker 114 Yeah, I heard that too.

Speaker 57 In case Bieber doesn't pan out, I heard that as well.

Speaker 70 But I heard that Bieber, the Bieber's deal and contract is so insured to lock him the fuck in.

Speaker 78 Well, after Frank Ocean,

Speaker 114 my thing was, I couldn't believe they were.

Speaker 41 Not that Bieber is like a risky artist to book.

Speaker 106 I don't want to say that.

Speaker 89 Because I think that a lot of the commentary about him is obviously unfair and fucked and has been fucked.

Speaker 106 And by the way, his albums,

Speaker 146 Swag and Swag 2,

Speaker 124 panty droppers.

Speaker 131 Justice for Justice.

Speaker 116 Justice for justice. Yeah.

Speaker 66 And purpose for purpose.

Speaker 132 I listened to Justice the Night I Lost My Virginity.

Speaker 90 What? Yes.

Speaker 134 I got home after

Speaker 145 sticking in the sweet spot.

Speaker 82 So this is an example of an album you listen to after a night out.

Speaker 88 Yes. And I almost brought it up, but I didn't.

Speaker 176 And then now I am.

Speaker 128 And I remember being in bed being like, wow, what just happened?

Speaker 130 And then ghosts came on and I was like,

Speaker 61 put it on me, baby. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 104 It's been overdue.

Speaker 71 Like, it's just like, put a nigga in my booty and make my heart stop.

Speaker 173 Do you see similarities in Justin and Brittany?

Speaker 117 Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 111 I can't even talk about Brittany.

Speaker 131 Get into it.

Speaker 79 It's heartbreaking.

Speaker 157 Yeah.

Speaker 106 It's heartbreaking.

Speaker 41 And that's, I think,

Speaker 174 why

Speaker 103 it's fine to be overly kind and like really like laudatory and appreciate these girls.

Speaker 94 And like, cause you know what? It's fucking hard.

Speaker 149 And it's not that deep.

Speaker 139 I love your Life of a Showgirl phone.

Speaker 223 Did you get the no, you didn't get it?

Speaker 70 I got the midnights phone.

Speaker 169 Ooh, I'm going to go for midnights.

Speaker 106 We were at the Apple thing, and they revealed the iPhone and air.

Speaker 82 And Poen Yang goes, Everything's getting skinnier.

Speaker 62 Well, he's not wrong.

Speaker 78 Not wrong. Are you going to get that?

Speaker 79 Are you going to get the air?

Speaker 70 It's waiting for me at the house.

Speaker 172 By the way, I'm buying that Switch game that you recommended.

Speaker 82 Fantasy Life Eye.

Speaker 70 Yeah. The girl who steals time.
Jake, you're going to love it. And we have to play together.
And I think you would like it too.

Speaker 90 Were you guys ever like Pokemon kids?

Speaker 168 Yes, okay. I was too.

Speaker 70 Are you excited for the new one?

Speaker 128 Well, I'm not like a new Pokemon guy.

Speaker 147 I was an old, like, silver and gold.

Speaker 66 Like,

Speaker 70 that was the best best generation.

Speaker 128 Yes, like

Speaker 44 dime, something diamond pearl, um, diamond pearl, black, white, black,

Speaker 70 fire, red, sapphire, green, or fire, leaf green, leaf, green, don't even fucking play with me on the Game Boy Advance. I'm sorry.

Speaker 90 Oh my god.

Speaker 147 And yes, we would have been such a friend.

Speaker 124 Such good friends.

Speaker 193 On eBay, every find has a story.

Speaker 194 Like if you're looking for a vintage band tee.

Speaker 196 Not just a tea, the band tee.

Speaker 69 From the last show your favorite band ever played.

Speaker 27 You wore it everywhere.

Speaker 70 Then your boyfriend started wearing it.

Speaker 198 Which was cute until he dumped you and took it with him.

Speaker 195 Which was not so cute.

Speaker 199 But he was. I miss him.

Speaker 112 Anyway, now you're on eBay.

Speaker 200 And there it is, same tea from the same tour, still living in your memory, rent-free, forever.

Speaker 108 Yeah.

Speaker 201 Screw you, Dave.

Speaker 2 The things you love have a way of finding their way back to you.

Speaker 74 Except Dave.

Speaker 35 But eBay isn't just for getting whatever your ex/slash XBFF stole back.

Speaker 199 We miss you.

Speaker 203 It's also for that rare championship foul ball that you caught, then heroically gave to the kid next to you.

Speaker 197 You're welcome, Scoot.

Speaker 206 And where else are you going to find your first car, a RAV4 from 2003?

Speaker 49 The one you wish you never sold, but now finally got the chance to take back home.

Speaker 70 I'm buying a car on eBay for good this time.

Speaker 113 Shop eBay for millions of finds, each with a story.

Speaker 197 eBay.

Speaker 85 Things people love.

Speaker 97 I'll take a tagline.

Speaker 28 No one can resist a rule of culture.

Speaker 208 So here's one for the dating files.

Speaker 63 Rule of culture number 72.

Speaker 209 Chemistry isn't just vibes, it's values.

Speaker 36 Because what's the point of matching with someone if you can't talk about the shows you binge, the books you dog ear, or all the hot takes you'll defend at brunch?

Speaker 210 I mean, you definitely have friends who have met their partners on Bumble, and it makes sense.

Speaker 213 It's not just about matching with someone, it's about finding someone who gets your references, your obsessions, your whole vibe.

Speaker 5 With shared interests and prompts, you don't just see a profile.

Speaker 217 You get a glimpse of someone's personality, which makes it even easier to start conversations that actually lead somewhere.

Speaker 219 Plus, with photo and ID verification, you can trust that the person you're talking to is real.

Speaker 220 With that added peace of mind, it's so much easier to show up as your full self.

Speaker 7 So, whether your rule of culture is the best first state, start with the shared hot take on Renaissance, or compatibility is having the same hometown bodega order, download Bumble and turn those connections into something bigger.

Speaker 222 Download Bumble and start your love story.

Speaker 45 You ever just stop in the middle of a crazy day and realize, realize, wow, I needed a break.

Speaker 223 It literally happened to me yesterday.

Speaker 224 I cracked open a Diet Coke, sat back for five minutes.

Speaker 73 Total reset.

Speaker 13 Right?

Speaker 225 There's something about the crispy, refreshing taste of an ice-cold Diet Coke.

Speaker 226 It just hits.

Speaker 227 It's my little me moment, like make time for a Diet Coke break, you know?

Speaker 228 Exactly.

Speaker 69 Diet Coke is the perfect companion for all break moments.

Speaker 65 Diet Coke, this is my taste.

Speaker 50 Two questions. What are you doing right now?

Speaker 33 And why aren't you on a Virgin Voyages Caribbean cruise? cruise?

Speaker 214 Well, obviously you were listening to us. Smart use of your time.

Speaker 211 True.

Speaker 33 But you could also be on a Virgin Voyages Caribbean cruise at the same time.

Speaker 34 That's just brilliant time management.

Speaker 232 Very true.

Speaker 233 This gives me an idea.

Speaker 234 Let's do a quick cruise quiz. Ready?

Speaker 235 First, cruise dining.

Speaker 237 Do you prefer a buffet or a curated dining experience with access to 20 distinct restaurants?

Speaker 203 Curated dining.

Speaker 238 Next. Okay, good choice.

Speaker 239 That's what Virgin Voyages offers.

Speaker 240 Second question.

Speaker 64 Would you rather have an overstuffed itinerary or the freedom to explore stunning Caribbean?

Speaker 241 Oh, I want the freedom to explore stunning Caribbean destinations.

Speaker 15 Again, I think I see where this quiz is going.

Speaker 60 Virgin Voyages is amazing.

Speaker 242 Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 243 The cruises are kid-free.

Speaker 244 From sunrise yoga to late-night cocktails, every moment is made for grown-up fun.

Speaker 246 Nothing against kids.

Speaker 56 Kids are awesome, but sometimes it's nice to be kid-free.

Speaker 247 And there's so much included value, over $1,000.

Speaker 54 Right, over $1,000 of awesomeness all included.

Speaker 51 Wi-Fi, soda, top-tier entertainment, over 20 restaurants, and even group fitness classes.

Speaker 34 No hidden fees, no surprise charges virgin voyages gives you the kind of luxury you actually deserve and you know what i deserve luxury you do and me too yes there's always something happening on board from wellness focused sailings to epic holiday voyages live music djs themed parties and more boredom doesn't board the ship.

Speaker 55 And there are so many amazing stops.

Speaker 254 You leave from Miami and sail to places like Grand Cayman, Jamaica, Puerto Rico, and the Dominican Republic.

Speaker 47 Virgin even has their own private beach club in Bimini.

Speaker 48 And they're adding stops in 2025 and 2026.

Speaker 28 Yeah, like Aruba, St.

Speaker 105 Lucia, and Caraçao.

Speaker 255 But it's not all go, go, go.

Speaker 240 Right, you can totally go into relaxation mode too.

Speaker 256 Your cabin is a full-on sanctuary.

Speaker 195 Private terrace, ocean views, and their signature red hammock just waiting for you to swing.

Speaker 12 Oh, and did I mention Virgin Voyages is launching a new ship, the Brilliant Lady?

Speaker 32 Brilliant name, by the way.

Speaker 34 She's bigger, bolder, and packed with even more Virgin Wow Factor.

Speaker 43 Book now at virginvoyages.com or contact your travel advisor.

Speaker 37 That's virginvoyages.com.

Speaker 111 wait i have my i don't think so honey can you do my time oh my god yeah i'm coming for your daughter no no no

Speaker 94 it's okay this is matt rogers i don't think so honey's time starts now i don't think so honey that bow and yang hasn't been on therapist it's gotta happen and you know what you both really need to louise i'm happy you're here because i really feel like something needs to be done on the books now yeah well because i'm literally watching you guys connect is making my heart glow making my heart stop and i wait i'm the opposite of sexy red with a dick in her butt her heart stop right now my heart is going.

Speaker 150 Oh.

Speaker 95 And it's fluttering and flying because I feel like my little brother and my sister have connected.

Speaker 101 And then now I know you have a daughter.

Speaker 82 I don't think you've had a daughter, really.

Speaker 50 I haven't had a daughter.

Speaker 145 I think you might be his first daughter.

Speaker 143 Like the film with Kay Holmes.

Speaker 76 And I don't think so, honey, that it's taken this long for you guys to really slay so.

Speaker 184 Because I feel this has been one of our best episodes in recent memory.

Speaker 145 Stop it.

Speaker 181 I'm absolutely not lying.

Speaker 104 And I don't think so, honey, that the world has been deprived of the greatness that is going to be a Bo and Yang ex-Jake Shane on Therapus because that is going to gag the girls.

Speaker 94 And I can't wait to see you in that chair in that gorgeous set.

Speaker 109 Oh, I love that set.

Speaker 70 You have the best.

Speaker 92 I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 70 And that's one minute.

Speaker 124 Talk about the set. That's gorgeous.

Speaker 178 Because I do think we kind of need to figure out our aesthetic.

Speaker 81 We like it at Cosmo, but you know, we can, we can maybe spruce it up.

Speaker 132 My set is made by these people at Interwoven Studios.

Speaker 134 I will give you their contact.

Speaker 132 They're amazing.

Speaker 125 And I have a person on my team named Harley, and she does all my creative and so she works with me on everything so for the first set we did 60s i think this set was 70s i wanted to go 80s louise bitched me out about it louise

Speaker 1 what did you say again you actually told me i had bad ideas what i've been literally spewing lies

Speaker 176 you've been spewing lies that was a lie what do they call you chief of staff what are they yeah no manager she's my manager oh okay yeah manager chief of staff see she runs she runs my life No, Louise.

Speaker 36 I want you to know, like, you, you, there should be, like, big articles written about you.

Speaker 44 Oh, my God.

Speaker 57 No, I really, I really, don't you feel proud of her?

Speaker 119 Beyond.

Speaker 141 If we had something planned for Saturday,

Speaker 130 she goes, oh, Friday and Saturday are you again?

Speaker 124 There goes my personal time. What I'm saying is,

Speaker 98 you have stark quality.

Speaker 57 She does. I really do.

Speaker 82 She does.

Speaker 106 My chief of staff has stark quality too, Melissa.

Speaker 24 She does it. I think I've met Melissa.

Speaker 110 You probably have because we're now inseparable.

Speaker 147 Yeah. I definitely have met Melissa.

Speaker 82 She put me in this, in this fuzzy fuzzy.

Speaker 140 What are you wearing today to the panel?

Speaker 79 Oh, actually, it's going to be really cute.

Speaker 106 Okay, Bo and Yang, are you ready to do your I don't think so, honey?

Speaker 82 All right.

Speaker 112 This is Bo and Yang's.

Speaker 80 I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 121 His time starts now.

Speaker 70 I don't think so, honey. When the fart don't come out, I don't like it when it's, when it's stuck in there.

Speaker 145 And it's, I know you're in there.

Speaker 70 Get out of there.

Speaker 76 You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 115 Yeah.

Speaker 70 When the gas builds up and then it's like, okay, now we're playing koi. Like, get out of there.
Y'all know what I'm talking about. Everyone's looking away in shame as if they don't relate.

Speaker 70 This happens to us all, especially to me. I know I have GI issues.
I've tried to get my gut health figured out.

Speaker 82 Make my heart stop.

Speaker 70 I want this fart to start. 30 seconds.

Speaker 70 Printed on a shirt. I want the fart to start.

Speaker 70 And otherwise, I'm just there with the bubble kind of squirming around in there.

Speaker 82 So no, honey. It's awful.

Speaker 70 I want, like, it's, I, like, I get it.

Speaker 100 15 seconds.

Speaker 70 It's, it's poop dust. I know it's gross.
I know we're all a little squeamish.

Speaker 82 It's theory of the abject.

Speaker 119 We're all like, oh, we want, oh,

Speaker 70 gay guys talking about their buttholes again.

Speaker 82 Five seconds.

Speaker 70 Farts need to be discoursed a little bit more. We're stigmatizing farts.

Speaker 110 And that's one minute.

Speaker 150 I just want to say that I looked over.

Speaker 94 So Doug is in the room today.

Speaker 95 He's not usually in the room.

Speaker 52 And I looked over two times during this episode and he was lit up when you did that, this fart humor and Tame and Pala.

Speaker 149 Both times I saw you beaming, smiling, and more.

Speaker 187 You loved it.

Speaker 70 You liked it both. Tame and Pala and farts.

Speaker 175 How do we get this together?

Speaker 70 I just have to see his edge.

Speaker 138 I person. You know, no, you know what it is also.

Speaker 129 It's a little bit of fart shame.

Speaker 132 So the reasons fart gets stuck is because you have that brief moment of like, should it come out or should it not?

Speaker 140 And then it's like, you know what?

Speaker 141 I'm not going to fucking come out then.

Speaker 106 Well, let me tell you something.

Speaker 80 He's usually not very shy about it.

Speaker 44 Well, I'm not shy.

Speaker 70 No, I'm not shy.

Speaker 107 It's like an angry Egyptian king.

Speaker 70 I'm not shy around my friends.

Speaker 61 And maybe you need a dick king ass, make your heart stop.

Speaker 157 Sorry.

Speaker 118 That was really short.

Speaker 93 Maybe that would make the fart, fart. Fart, fart, fart star.

Speaker 61 That was funny.

Speaker 178 Isn't it ice spice that said, you ain't the shit?

Speaker 84 You ain't even the fart. Yes.

Speaker 136 That is ice spice.

Speaker 100 You're the shit, bitch. You ain't even

Speaker 100 got to be a fan of the fart.

Speaker 52 You know what is the fart and the shit?

Speaker 147 Your, I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 82 Hold on, hold on.

Speaker 92 Time. Okay.
Okay, ready?

Speaker 70 Oh, my God. I can't wait.

Speaker 98 This is a moment in history.

Speaker 181 This is Jake Shane doing an I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 24 That's a moment.

Speaker 82 That's a moment.

Speaker 132 And I need to like not think about how important it is to me so I can just let it rip.

Speaker 177 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 89 Like a fart. Like a fart.

Speaker 82 Okay.

Speaker 121 This is Jake Shane's.

Speaker 114 I don't think so, honey, as time starts now.

Speaker 192 I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 132 Ordering dessert at the same restaurant you just ordered dinner at.

Speaker 176 I am uncomfortable.

Speaker 188 I've eaten both an appetizer and an entree.

Speaker 186 The restaurant is hot.

Speaker 132 I've gone through every possible discourse with you that I could have possibly gone through.

Speaker 172 I want to leave.

Speaker 163 So there are specific restaurants made for dessert.

Speaker 173 I eat frozen yogurt chops. I eat ice cream shops.

Speaker 92 I eat bakeries.

Speaker 179 Get me the fuck out of this establishment.

Speaker 162 I am so uncomfortable when, and also, there are people waiting for our table.

Speaker 82 If we have gone to a restaurant that is good, people want the table.

Speaker 50 Why are we ordering dessert?

Speaker 172 My stomach wants something cold.

Speaker 125 I don't want a piece of warm cake that the chef is famous for.

Speaker 186 I'm uncomfortable.

Speaker 141 I have allotted enough time for appetizers, entree, and then 15 minutes for check time.

Speaker 135 I don't have the extra 20 minutes for cake.

Speaker 1 I'm uncomfortable. I want to leave.

Speaker 162 I need to get out of there. And also, the dessert is never that good.

Speaker 66 Right.

Speaker 90 Get me Froyo any day.

Speaker 119 Get me the fuck out of the restaurant.

Speaker 57 And that's one minute.

Speaker 98 It is so true. We had dinner at Chicone's.

Speaker 94 I was like, did I say something?

Speaker 66 No, because you were like, I'm leaving.

Speaker 142 All right. Got to go.

Speaker 142 It's so fun.

Speaker 146 Love you so much. Literally would die for you.

Speaker 24 Like out the door.

Speaker 107 And in the gym, you leave really fast.

Speaker 98 Cause I will now reveal we've gone to the gym together in can.

Speaker 128 Yes, after I had sex with a man and I called Matt freaking out.

Speaker 176 Yes.

Speaker 132 And he said, oh, sweetie, you're friends with too many straight girls.

Speaker 70 Was it all okay in the end?

Speaker 82 Of course it was all okay. Okay, good.

Speaker 124 Matt was like, girl. I was like,

Speaker 158 he was like, have you ever had sex with a guy from Grinder?

Speaker 97 I was like, babe, have you ever?

Speaker 76 I was like, sit on my lap.

Speaker 82 Sit on my lap. Let me tell you a story.

Speaker 146 Let me spin you a yarn.

Speaker 87 Well, I, first of all, I relate to that.

Speaker 70 You're so right.

Speaker 90 You're so right. Did I do a good job?

Speaker 72 You were incredible.

Speaker 70 I was foot stomping. Why is you saying I am uncomfortable multiple times sending

Speaker 76 uncomfortable?

Speaker 71 Because I am.

Speaker 141 Like, we're sitting in like a booth and like, what, and like, I'm like, oh, I have to, I have to go pee and someone's like all right.

Speaker 128 Well, let me get out.

Speaker 132 Well, while you're getting out, let's just get up and leave.

Speaker 66 Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 169 Like let's just get up and leave. It's intermission or whatever.

Speaker 70 It's like, well, then we might as well leave.

Speaker 119 Oh, God, I fucking hate it.

Speaker 117 Yeah,

Speaker 223 I get it.

Speaker 114 I will say I think I'm guilty of this.

Speaker 80 I always want to see the dessert menu.

Speaker 186 Oh, my God. It's my number one pet peeve.

Speaker 1 They say, do you want to see the dessert menu?

Speaker 176 I'm okay. Thank you.

Speaker 82 Yeah.

Speaker 183 I always want to see it.

Speaker 150 You know what I will say? I will cop to.

Speaker 112 I always see the menu and I never do really order.

Speaker 187 Is this a Jewish thing?

Speaker 70 Because it's a Chinese. It's an Asian thing for sure where it's like, we're like, what do you, what do you what do you mean get disappointed?

Speaker 182 I mean, I'm just impatient and miserable.

Speaker 136 So that might be a like

Speaker 147 Jewish thing. I don't know.
Sorry.

Speaker 70 I'm sorry. I'm not making it about.

Speaker 179 And no, but I like a quick meal.

Speaker 90 Me too. That's why I like dim sum.

Speaker 76 Thank you.

Speaker 163 That's why I like dim sum.

Speaker 132 You know what I get upset about?

Speaker 24 Like when the when the meal hits the table, I get really sad.

Speaker 180 I'm hungry, of course, but it means that the conversation is almost over.

Speaker 27 Oh my God.

Speaker 82 I can't. Because the meal hitting the table.

Speaker 117 You can have a conversation anywhere.

Speaker 147 I can't have a conversation anywhere.

Speaker 132 I am there for food. What I love about Dim Sum is you sit down, cart in front of your face.

Speaker 128 What the fuck do you want?

Speaker 1 I want this, that, and third. Great.

Speaker 66 You want the track? We're out. We're done.
Yep, we're done.

Speaker 70 It's so quick. It's so perfect.
You want more? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 27 There's another, the cart's coming back around.

Speaker 90 Yeah, don't you worry about it.

Speaker 172 No wait time.

Speaker 179 Love a fast casual.

Speaker 90 Love Chipotle.

Speaker 102 Yes.

Speaker 146 Fast casual is. You and I.

Speaker 19 Yeah.

Speaker 169 No, Chipotle is.

Speaker 70 I got to go on therapy.

Speaker 176 You got to come on therapy.

Speaker 71 Literally, it's going to be a lot of fun.

Speaker 79 Happen like now. Wicked press.

Speaker 107 Wicked press.

Speaker 149 Okay, so to literally, it's coming off of this, this conversation about needing to leave.

Speaker 79 Like, I actually do need to leave because I have Doug Pack in 10 minutes.

Speaker 187 Okay, you gotta go. But I will say this.

Speaker 110 You must return to the show many times.

Speaker 157 Really?

Speaker 70 You are brother, daughter. I'm sorry, it's all incestuous.
It's all fucked, but we're I've had such a lovely time with you.

Speaker 111 This has been so fun, and I'm so happy that it happened.

Speaker 106 And because he's almost never in Los Angeles, so I knew that once we had to connect, but also we're going to return to a conversation about getting you out to New York, not to freak Louise out it's gonna happen yeah she wants it oh you want it no I no our recent trip yeah our recent trip we were like ooh who made me know it's interesting we'll wash that off yeah

Speaker 134 we'll clean the slate this is so fun therapist obviously is a podcast you probably already love and and are consuming all the time but if you're not you should and um more to come by the way we didn't even talk about how great you are on hacks oh no thank you so good baby i'm so proud of you thank you we talked about the pop girls and isn't that what matters?

Speaker 100 Yeah, truly.

Speaker 170 That's why you must return.

Speaker 79 Yeah.

Speaker 86 We end every episode with a song.

Speaker 70 I'm not a teacher, baby, but I could teach you something.

Speaker 57 Not a preacher, but we can pray if you want to.

Speaker 82 Not a doctor, but I can make you feel better.

Speaker 40 And I'm great at writing physical love letters.

Speaker 115 I'm a freak all day,

Speaker 115 all night.

Speaker 82 Boy, you're out of sight and I'm crazy all day, all night.

Speaker 66 Who needs a degree in school and life?

Speaker 78 Did I mess up with work?

Speaker 72 No, I messed up.

Speaker 40 Anyway, bye.

Speaker 30 Lost Culture Racist is the production by Will Farrell's Big Money Players and iHeartRadio Podcasts.

Speaker 47 Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang.

Speaker 48 Executive produced by Anna Hosnier and produced by Becca Ramos.

Speaker 70 Edited and mixed by Doug Boeing.

Speaker 203 And our music is by Henry Komersky.

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