"Matt & Bow Take The Substance" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

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Speaker 55 Look, man.

Speaker 56 oh i see my eye oh my bowen look over there wow is that culture yes goodness

Speaker 38 las cultoristas

Speaker 64 ding dong las cultoristas calling we're back well what an auspicious beginning to the year oof no what do you mean oof well why were you calling him auspicious because we get to be together we get to be together we have a great bounty we have a great bounty friendship here a treasure of beauty in front of us a treasure of beauty is that the definition of bounty a treasure of beauty oh no no a great fortune a great fortune of beauty forget when i forget how you used this sequence of words but it's so matt rogers it's you have a great fortune of beauty

Speaker 56 of beauty yes well you do well i'm actually sitting here with you right now and are you in a full beat right now no i i actually took the beat off you took the beat off yeah yeah because you did a little photo shoot for snl i did i for an s n l related thing for uh something yeah so they get you in a full bead for the photo shoot.

Speaker 68 Tell us how to do it.

Speaker 40 Tell us how photo shoots work.

Speaker 31 Well, you know, they put you in a full bead and then they say, okay, your hair looks okay.

Speaker 40 And these are the clothes.

Speaker 85 And they say, hey, throw that neck for me.

Speaker 70 Throw that neck for me.

Speaker 22 You end the phrase, throw neck.

Speaker 69 Talk about that.

Speaker 87 We have to give credit where it's a dude. Delta Work one time went on a tear on her podcast about throwing neck.

Speaker 89 Like, you want me to throw neck?

Speaker 14 And I actually didn't know what it was.

Speaker 90 And now throw neck has entered my lexicon.

Speaker 69 Throw neck is so much better than I hated.

Speaker 91 Give head. No, give heads awesome.

Speaker 18 Give head is so bad.

Speaker 92 Ew.

Speaker 91 We're talking about euphemisms for oral sex, aka blowjob.

Speaker 93 We could also bring back blowjob.

Speaker 29 Blowjob.

Speaker 86 You gave him a blowjob.

Speaker 31 You gave him a blowjob.

Speaker 4 A blowjob.

Speaker 60 Like, I don't know.

Speaker 96 He gives good blowjobs.

Speaker 99 I want people to say that about me.

Speaker 95 No.

Speaker 100 Blowjob is so 90s.

Speaker 31 Actually, real close to number eight.

Speaker 40 Blowjob is so 90s.

Speaker 101 And what give head is so odd, right?

Speaker 14 So odds.

Speaker 78 And throw neck is so 2020.

Speaker 29 So 2020.

Speaker 29 That's why I meant auspicious beginning of the year.

Speaker 99 Obviously, there was

Speaker 84 a coping kind of cheekiness to it because of things being so devastating.

Speaker 107 Yeah, I was just saying to Bo right before we got on, I'm actually super anxious to do the podcast today.

Speaker 110 And anytime there's something going on, like the horrible fires that are happening right now in Los Angeles. And by the way, it's still ongoing.

Speaker 112 I mean, we're recording this on Monday, January 13th.

Speaker 88 This will come out on Wednesday.

Speaker 113 And, you know, the next couple of days are going to be very trying for the city and for the area.

Speaker 115 And

Speaker 84 I think we are still going to give Lost Culture.

Speaker 80 I mean, our theme for this year, actually, we decided is more random bullshit.

Speaker 116 Yeah.

Speaker 117 So look forward to that.

Speaker 20 But I feel like I do just want to speak to

Speaker 41 everyone that, because I know for a fact that we have people that listen to this and a great listener base in Los Angeles and so many people there that are being affected, that are losing everything.

Speaker 87 And it just goes so beyond just the loss of property.

Speaker 119 I mean,

Speaker 120 the mental health right now, it's so demoralizing.

Speaker 102 It is so, it's hard to wrap your head around the amount of devastation and just

Speaker 112 how much work needs to be done.

Speaker 124 And all I really want to say is.

Speaker 112 That we are sending all of our love and strength to everyone that's affected, everyone that will be affected. For people checking in on me, I'm fine.

Speaker 88 Like, I'm in New York and have been.

Speaker 112 I had some work stuff to do at the top of the year.

Speaker 126 I've obviously ended up remaining here just to kind of stay out of the way, but

Speaker 127 truly heartbreaking.

Speaker 88 And

Speaker 112 just know that we will continue to provide a space for you to hopefully laugh and, you know, feel like there's someone beside you because

Speaker 81 it is a very unique kind of

Speaker 105 grief to

Speaker 37 have so many

Speaker 129 emotional attachments kind of fall away to ash, literally. I mean, there's something, something very obviously unique about every kind of disastrous thing, but with fire, it is like

Speaker 73 uncontrollable, unpredictable,

Speaker 25 fast,

Speaker 131 and

Speaker 132 it all happens in a way that defies any kind of

Speaker 131 processing.

Speaker 98 And

Speaker 105 things will just take a very long time.

Speaker 135 On every level, things will take a very long time

Speaker 30 to feel tolerable in any way.

Speaker 71 And

Speaker 138 that is what's probably the saddest collective thing that people outside of Los Angeles must be feeling.

Speaker 61 But then it certainly pales in comparison to what people who are currently there and who will be dealing with this for the next several years are feeling in this moment.

Speaker 79 Yeah, I mean, it's hard, right?

Speaker 40 Because sometimes it's just you're sitting on your computer or in front of your TV or on your phone and you see things start to fill up that space and it's like you know the politic the politicization and the finger pointing and stuff is so unhelpful and it's hard i i will never forget some people whose instinct was to just immediately politicize this and immediately make it about other things when people's homes are burning when people are losing family losing pets relationships get so challenged during things like this.

Speaker 148 You know what I mean?

Speaker 124 It's just the last thing on anyone's mind should be like dunking on this city, which, by the way, obviously, I get it.

Speaker 3 Like, LA gets dunked on, you know what I mean?

Speaker 144 It all feels very fucking stupid.

Speaker 131 Why would you do that in this moment?

Speaker 154 Because for some people, they just can't separate their actual need for attention and for people to rally around whatever thought they have.

Speaker 80 I mean, it's like it's a fucking dark day for social media when I log on and I see that people have all the fucking answers when it's like you clearly don't and can't.

Speaker 157 I think it's officially curtains oh god for sure

Speaker 133 yeah tick tock ban take it um take it at this point zuck being zuck like it's it's just it's over there's no

Speaker 29 yeah which is not to say that like tick tock going away potentially is like a celebratory thing it's just like if you had any doubt that and now i'm like sounding a little tinfoily but it's like if you had any doubt this is all part of some like this isn't some kind of like

Speaker 139 propaganda machine essentially it's like why are all of these fucking

Speaker 164 tech bros like right ringers now?

Speaker 79 Anyway, we can't get into that.

Speaker 76 You know, it's not, there's so much, there's time for this stuff later.

Speaker 88 All I want to say right now, but actually, Bowen and I literally falling into the trap.

Speaker 113 Bowen and I literally said we won't do more than seven minutes on this because

Speaker 3 what we're going to do is we're going to bring you lost coach.

Speaker 113 We have a lot to say over the about what's gone on over the past like month since we've seen you guys.

Speaker 166 We hope you guys enjoyed the re-releases.

Speaker 76 I think we actually carried down in terms of what we chose.

Speaker 4 We tore

Speaker 40 it more.

Speaker 127 A tour carried in more.

Speaker 85 But last thing I want to say, the first thing I'm going to do when I get back to the city, which I don't know when that will be, hopefully end of the week.

Speaker 3 We'll see, is I'm going to my apartment.

Speaker 91 I'm going to my closet.

Speaker 85 I'm every single thing that I don't need is getting donated.

Speaker 145 I encourage you to do the same. Yes.

Speaker 154 These resources, luckily, because of social media, are not difficult to find in terms of where you can donate.

Speaker 113 And if you are in the position to give, I said it about the hurricanes in Florida.

Speaker 120 I'm saying it now.

Speaker 169 Please do that because people really need help.

Speaker 18 They really need help bad.

Speaker 41 And my heart goes out to everybody.

Speaker 133 If anything can be taken away from this, it's that the thing that has been mobilized the quickest and the most incredibly is interpersonal mutual aid thing.

Speaker 173 It's devastating that it's not anything more part of a larger system.

Speaker 139 It's just, it is literally like bottom up and it still has yet to be a top-down thing.

Speaker 22 And as we go into like a new sort of era, as it were,

Speaker 106 like that is that will not be the thing that anyone can rely on.

Speaker 166 I mean, let's, I guess, you know what?

Speaker 165 You know what, y'all? Let's fucking see.

Speaker 176 You, you, we fucked around.

Speaker 89 I guess we're gonna find out depending on what goes down in terms of our federal government.

Speaker 63 But I guess we'll just continue to watch.

Speaker 29 It's just crazy that the response is what it is because it's a blue state.

Speaker 179 It's really fucking crazy.

Speaker 181 I mean,

Speaker 89 let's not even let's literally not even let's just hope to god that

Speaker 107 resources are given to people that need it regardless of where they live or who they are or xyz reason

Speaker 187 the last thing i want to say about it is shout out doesn't even do it justice to all of the firefighters that are giving everything to put this out i mean like truly watching these the aircrafts go up and the water get dumped and like just seeing how precise all of it is and watching these people scale mountains to get to places putting themselves in harm's way truly all respect and

Speaker 89 heroic kudos to them like it's just amazing what you see people are willing to do to help others and that is something that

Speaker 123 Let's just highlight that at the end of this.

Speaker 56 And

Speaker 113 as it all unfolds, so far, my place is okay, but I have a fucking one-bedroom apartment.

Speaker 67 You know, I'm all right.

Speaker 40 I'm just, I'm, my heart is broken broken for people that are losing stuff.

Speaker 80 Yeah, anyway, we watched the substance last night.

Speaker 138 We're the last,

Speaker 31 we're the last, anyway.

Speaker 58 It's Oscar season.

Speaker 31 We're the last

Speaker 98 two gay men to see this movie.

Speaker 187 Watched it together.

Speaker 147 It actually was my, you're, you guys aren't going to believe this.

Speaker 193 This was my second time seeing the movie.

Speaker 24 Do we have a burgeoning horror enthusiast in our midst?

Speaker 31 Do we?

Speaker 157 I think we do.

Speaker 195 I always thought that Matt Rogers

Speaker 196 would be a horror buff.

Speaker 29 Like, I think you've grown up a lot since you self-identified this way.

Speaker 40 Yeah.

Speaker 198 And I don't, I think you can let that go.

Speaker 72 I think you can let, ooh, I'm squeamish about horror.

Speaker 199 I think you've leveled the fuck up.

Speaker 200 And you, if you can sit through the substance twice in one week,

Speaker 22 I think you're fine.

Speaker 28 I knew what?

Speaker 188 Here's the thing.

Speaker 58 It's such a rich genre.

Speaker 82 It's such a shame that you're missing out on it.

Speaker 100 No, can I tell you something?

Speaker 201 It's one of the genres that I respect the most.

Speaker 15 Yes.

Speaker 69 It's horror and sci-fi. Yes.

Speaker 190 i actually think because you can genuinely and let's talk we'll talk about this movie in connection to this idea but you can more than anything else so brilliantly make points about our culture when you are a sci-fi or horror filmmaker or and both this is obviously both i knew i was gonna have to see it because i'm just rooting so hard for Demi

Speaker 89 and and I'm more to say about her in a second but I was like you know what I'm gonna nut up and I'm gonna fucking watch this because you gotta nut up for Demi and Margaret I have to nut up for Demi and Margaret Margaret.

Speaker 116 And that's nice rule of culture number 30.

Speaker 91 You have to nut up for Demi and Margaret.

Speaker 41 And let's include Margaret in the conversation.

Speaker 163 Absolutely.

Speaker 38 Because if I wake up on Oscar nomination morning

Speaker 206 and I don't see whoever is reading those nominations say the name Margaret Qualy,

Speaker 58 there will be more destruction.

Speaker 165 Oh, and that's a little light humor there.

Speaker 68 That's because I think we could all use a little light humor.

Speaker 132 Facetious queen.

Speaker 73 Thank you.

Speaker 142 This is, I think it's our favorite movie.

Speaker 104 It's our favorite movie of the year. Yeah.

Speaker 71 Period.

Speaker 158 Notwithstanding projects that we've been involved in.

Speaker 187 I think Wicked has to occupy its own space.

Speaker 76 Of course.

Speaker 61 And let me show in its own lane.

Speaker 76 It is occupying its own space for me.

Speaker 194 I've seen Wicked, I think, I actually don't remember if it's four or five times, but it's obviously one of my favorite films.

Speaker 67 And congratulations to you on your Sagnom.

Speaker 87 I feel like every time there's a nominations announcement, my sister always gets the flowers because you

Speaker 31 everything, everywhere, all at once.

Speaker 52 No, no, I'm not just saying that.

Speaker 74 I am, I'm very grateful to be included among this superlative group.

Speaker 40 You guys might have visitors.

Speaker 98 You really might.

Speaker 106 There's a sort of self-deprecating part of me that says I like somehow conned my way into that, into that group, but also I'm very proud of you in the ensemble.

Speaker 91 I was elevated to film.

Speaker 51 I'm proud of the work that everybody did.

Speaker 100 Yes.

Speaker 99 Especially Jonathan Bailey getting the nomination for supporting.

Speaker 26 Yeah.

Speaker 145 That was major.

Speaker 212 Such a nice,

Speaker 73 what's the word?

Speaker 8 tasteful choice you used a word when we were talking about this that we were like when sag nominations came out and then we were talking about jonathan we're like oh we're so happy for jonathan you said um oh are you looking through text yeah i'm looking through text what did i say about johnny bailey's nomination

Speaker 31 i believe that i said something we gotta we gotta cut around this um one second no this is real life oh no okay this we we were texting up a storm

Speaker 31 here's the thing about us we are texting up a storm that's actually a little coacher number eight teen here's the thing about us are texting up a storm this is what you said about jonathan bailey's nomination inspired nomination i think it is an inspired nomination

Speaker 89 because he is yeah yeah because the thing about that role is it's like first of all jonathan bailey is like dick van dyke you know what i mean like oh my god what a great comparison that's like the highest compliment i could give a true entertainer like that physicality is delightful yeah just dripping in charisma i mean i'm saying that just in terms of the way he moves and dances not the his physique It's not his physique, his physicality.

Speaker 209 Well, I mean, listen, first of all, if we're going to have Fierro,

Speaker 176 that's exactly what it should be looking like.

Speaker 67 A triumph in both casting and tailoring.

Speaker 84 Oh, that's what I would say about everything that doesn't have to do with Jonathan Bailey.

Speaker 49 Right.

Speaker 50 But

Speaker 165 in terms of what does have to do with him, now that's the definitive Fiero.

Speaker 219 I mean, so

Speaker 144 easy to fall in love with immediately.

Speaker 7 You get why everyone on screen is is doing that.

Speaker 203 Yes.

Speaker 215 You know, treating him that way.

Speaker 154 Just like, you know, in a movie like that, where they clearly loved it so much, got the ensemble nom, Cynthia and Ariana.

Speaker 77 Like, I love it.

Speaker 113 And it's a true supporting nomination, which is something that I ring the bell on a lot, which is the category fraud of it all.

Speaker 212 And that is, look, it's an acting award granted by actors that he's performing in the truest sense.

Speaker 113 I think I'm not surprised at all why people saw his name and were like, check in that box.

Speaker 56 And

Speaker 82 you think they saw mine for Ensemble and said, yes.

Speaker 85 I think that here's what happened when I got to Ensemble.

Speaker 187 I think they, first of all, Wicked W all the way at the end.

Speaker 28 And I think you, Yang, were all the way at the end of that.

Speaker 152 So I think you were the last thing that I was the closer.

Speaker 209 You were the closer of the entire booklet.

Speaker 115 And I've been a SAG voting committee member, not this year, but I have been in the past.

Speaker 31 I know how it works.

Speaker 91 And all I know is I think they closed their books very pleased with themselves, knowing that they had voted to nominate the one, only cistern i have called bowen i'm the closer i'm kira i'm kira sedgwick you were so kira sedgwick in this

Speaker 214 but okay so it wasn't all great for me though because like i just said margaret quality was not on the list for sag and let me tell you something the academy members if you're any of you listening to this you can actually vote till friday now I'm not waking up and not hearing Margaret Kwally's name.

Speaker 154 What she does in this movie, both of them, epic.

Speaker 86 Every inch of her was covered except her one eye.

Speaker 100 Let's fucking talk about this film.

Speaker 153 So, the substance, if you don't know, now you know, it's about Demi Moore.

Speaker 145 She plays an aging actress named Elizabeth Sparkle.

Speaker 197 Let's just pause.

Speaker 163 Let's just let that live.

Speaker 189 Elizabeth Sparkle.

Speaker 148 First of all, the very first thing you see is her Hollywood star, Elizabeth Sparkle.

Speaker 165 And you're like, her name is Elizabeth Sparkle.

Speaker 154 And then the tone of the movie begins, and it's just so brilliant.

Speaker 207 It's perfect. Like, what's, how do you, how would you say, what would you say the tone is?

Speaker 28 The tone is,

Speaker 161 God, the tone is like B-movie.

Speaker 66 It's like B-movie noir.

Speaker 196 B-movie noir.

Speaker 151 But like, also, like, very aware of the fact that it's a body horror movie.

Speaker 26 Yep.

Speaker 146 And it's like crunchy and juicy and very...

Speaker 100 You mentioned the very first frame.

Speaker 187 You were like, I already love this because it's just the hard materials of the

Speaker 80 Hollywood star that they're making.

Speaker 56 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 77 And the movie is.

Speaker 154 It's molding and shaping and so yeah it's about being defined by what physically makes you up yeah and allowing that to go too far yeah and the movie never loses sight of that Coralie Farghi Farjat is it Farjat Farjat because some people are fully pronouncing it Farghi oh that's interesting so then maybe I'm wrong because I'm looking at it and I'm thinking

Speaker 170 you are you are putting in the time to watch these interviews and to hear the the utterances of the names we might as well just call Coralie the legend hold on we can't move forward without knowing the presentation i'm looking at it as someone who clearly is not i'm not exactly whipping out a french accent but i'm looking at the way it's farger it looks like farger to me coralie fargia fargia

Speaker 83 coralie fargia farguit come on someone said farget no

Speaker 96 i'm not saying come on at you i'm saying come on at whoever is broadcasting farguit i mean

Speaker 226 lots of failures in broadcasting farguit not not the slur farguit sounds like a slur sounds

Speaker 37 You know what?

Speaker 29 To speak of another best actress potential nominee, Mikey Madison really put her pussy into faggot, into saying the word faggot.

Speaker 183 Oh, I absolutely love it.

Speaker 58 I don't know if we've gotten into Honora because I don't think you had seen Honora

Speaker 88 when I had seen Honora. You've now seen Honora.

Speaker 129 I have now seen Honora and I have now.

Speaker 84 Yes, of course. I love Mikey Madison and Honora.

Speaker 77 Can I say

Speaker 58 best actress?

Speaker 195 Wild this year.

Speaker 135 Wild this year.

Speaker 24 Cynthia, come on.

Speaker 52 Cynthia, I hope Cynthia is locked.

Speaker 22 I think she is.

Speaker 84 Well, there's some people online that are kind of giving the fear of what happened to Margot Robbie could happen to Cynthia.

Speaker 41 Sure, sure, sure.

Speaker 31 Because, like, but I also think it's a totally different thing.

Speaker 227 I will be so bummed out if Cynthia misses.

Speaker 129 Come on, Cynthia, fucking,

Speaker 137 you're with her every step of the way. Yeah.

Speaker 163 In that movie, all the way up until that last fucking battle cry.

Speaker 69 It's like, come on.

Speaker 99 Another actor would have.

Speaker 144 It wouldn't have been the same.

Speaker 62 It wouldn't have been the same.

Speaker 137 Cynthia gave us such a sublime version of of just that story up until that point oh my god come on please i mean it's so great and i listened to the wizard and i a bunch

Speaker 89 by the way i covered the wizard and i on my christmas show and each and every time it was the best moment of my life oh like literally

Speaker 89 i can't believe that song and she's done like a yet another like defining performance of that song. Like you can watch all the alphabets sing The Wizard and I.

Speaker 228 Cynthia not only put her own spin on it but also did the song so much justice and that's like the point in the movie where you're like it's confirmed at that point that this is a great you're in safe hands yes after that i just love it not to speak too much more about that but like i hope she gets her nomination

Speaker 109 i think my actress five is

Speaker 92 dami

Speaker 109 mikey madison cynthia arrivo Carla Sofia Gascon

Speaker 119 and Nicole and Baby Girl.

Speaker 67 And Nicole's getting lost.

Speaker 108 And this is not to say I also didn't love,

Speaker 154 I loved Angelina Jolie and Maria.

Speaker 105 Yes, and then you'd seen Hard Truths.

Speaker 150 I've seen Hard Truths.

Speaker 85 Marianne Jean-Baptiste is incredible in it.

Speaker 207 I just, the movie's a difficult movie.

Speaker 26 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's a tough character,

Speaker 194 but she's brilliant.

Speaker 52 And I've seen The Last Showgirl.

Speaker 229 And I think if Pam Anderson gets a nomination, you're not going to see me tisking.

Speaker 77 Like, I

Speaker 123 root for her, and she's fabulous in the movie.

Speaker 92 I've seen a lot.

Speaker 69 You are, I think you're, this is it.

Speaker 29 This is a fun year to be a completist, completionist, however you want to say it.

Speaker 58 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 73 Great year.

Speaker 78 And I haven't even mentioned Fernando Torres, who the legendary Brazilian actress in the movie, I'm Still Here, who was won the globe.

Speaker 115 And that kind of like

Speaker 69 shook it up.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 151 Because people were looking at Nicole Kidman or Angelina Jolie to win that, and neither of them did.

Speaker 139 Should we get back on track with this episode?

Speaker 138 I mean, just funny.

Speaker 29 It wields camp, people throw around this word, but it wields camp in the most perfect way, which is it's poor taste and good taste.

Speaker 135 That's exactly what that movie is the entire way through.

Speaker 206 Yes.

Speaker 231 And I think the dialogue.

Speaker 69 Yes.

Speaker 232 Like, oh my God, this is a reverie.

Speaker 36 This is dream-like in every way.

Speaker 197 And in such a calibrated way, like even,

Speaker 234 God, even with the Dennis Quaid stuff, it's like, oh, everyone understands.

Speaker 235 This is good direction.

Speaker 24 Everyone being aligned with the vision.

Speaker 148 And also, that being true, when there is so much technical stuff going on,

Speaker 154 I implore you, if you've seen this movie, the next thing you should do, your homework, is to watch.

Speaker 85 It's a 30-minute BTS feature

Speaker 89 on YouTube about the making of the movie.

Speaker 92 It is true

Speaker 194 practical filmmaking.

Speaker 237 Practical magic.

Speaker 67 Practical magic.

Speaker 31 Let that sink in.

Speaker 91 Bars.

Speaker 96 Bars. Bars.

Speaker 148 But like, you watch the movie and you're like, well, surely that part was PGI.

Speaker 89 And it wasn't.

Speaker 187 And so incredibly creative she was in terms of what she executed.

Speaker 121 She's so in control of all her departments.

Speaker 166 And to speak to, again, the acting.

Speaker 56 Oh.

Speaker 29 I'm thinking about Margaret.

Speaker 144 Margaret is a legend.

Speaker 40 You're a hit.

Speaker 153 No, no, she's so good.

Speaker 188 She's so good.

Speaker 99 And she also knows, like, I don't even know how to say this, but she's exactly pitch perfect on playing both realities both realities of someone who because the thing about these characters of sue and elizabeth is they only ever really talk to each other no actually they never talk to each other there's moments of like interaction but like both to me and margaret are having to be in dialogue with each other when they're solo which you know what i mean yes i mean well they are one person so that actually that was a part where i was like watching the walk and i'm like okay so so if when you watch the movie and by the way, if you're totally in the dark about what this movie is, it's about Elizabeth Sparkle, who's an actress who turns 50 and she has like a Jane Fonda workout class.

Speaker 124 Like that's like her gig now.

Speaker 54 You get the sense that this is what she's had to do because the Hollywood industry has done what it's done to women and she's now too old.

Speaker 207 So she's finishing one of her classes and it's her birthday and she gets the word without saying too much that because she's old, they're going to fire her and

Speaker 155 replace replace her with someone younger.

Speaker 176 So on the way home, she gets into a car accident.

Speaker 123 She goes to the hospital and this like young nurse says to her, like, he passes on this thing called the substance.

Speaker 169 And the substance is something that you can take to create, for lack of a better word, a younger, better version of yourself.

Speaker 105 And there are strict parameters in which you can alternate between your current self and this younger self.

Speaker 147 With the caveat being, remember you are one

Speaker 22 being.

Speaker 80 Like while new matter is created and then you can, you can occupy that new younger, more beautiful matter.

Speaker 129 Yeah.

Speaker 78 You have to always remember that you are one being in one consciousness.

Speaker 94 So it's a really interesting exploration of what happens when you hate yourself so much

Speaker 214 that

Speaker 108 you actually start, it's just, she loses grip on what's on the rules because she so enjoys being the Margaret Qualey version of herself.

Speaker 187 And it does.

Speaker 225 There is like this weird binary created between them, but they keep being reminded they are one person.

Speaker 53 So it's actually this weird, like, also kind of an examination of like mental illness and true dysmorphia. Yeah.

Speaker 242 The movie's doing a lot.

Speaker 37 Well, the movie's doing a lot.

Speaker 134 And then like anytime she faces a consequence, it is so good at

Speaker 196 leaving you in the audience a little bit unsure.

Speaker 158 I think in a purely intentional way, not in like a plot-holy way.

Speaker 99 It's like you don't know whether it's a scientific consequence or if it's something that is like

Speaker 191 nefariously being carried out by like whoever is behind.

Speaker 69 It's just, I love it. You guys have to see it.

Speaker 105 Yeah, I mean, I think everyone's seen it except us.

Speaker 89 But honestly, though, like, I never know because, well, you can, I guess, stream it now on Mubi.

Speaker 102 And I had no idea that Bowen was a movie lover.

Speaker 134 Well, Matt finds out that I subscribe to Mubi, and then he goes, that's a list.

Speaker 165 I go, I believe it's a list to be a movie.

Speaker 147 You at home can be a movie subscriber and feel a list.

Speaker 65 I guess.

Speaker 63 I bought the film on Apple iTunes.

Speaker 161 That seems A-list to me as well.

Speaker 165 You think it's A-list?

Speaker 31 I think

Speaker 234 everyone, Readers Publishes Katie's finalists, I need to see Matt Rogers in the Criterion Closet.

Speaker 107 Oh my God. I just watched Pam Anderson's, which was great.

Speaker 101 She's so good. She's so smart.

Speaker 161 She's fucking smart.

Speaker 37 She's so smart. She knows so much about film.

Speaker 217 What'd she pick out, like umbrellas of Cherbourg or whatever?

Speaker 41 She's picked out the film Wanda, which is like a big...

Speaker 113 I've now seen The Last Showgirl, which I'll talk about in a second. I really want you to see it too.

Speaker 109 I took my ass down to the Angelica.

Speaker 222 Which side of the theater were you on, right or left?

Speaker 123 Left, actually.

Speaker 129 That's my big, I don't think it's the Honeything.

Speaker 106 I love Angelica, obviously.

Speaker 73 Yeah. Institution.

Speaker 187 I do whatever I can to support it.

Speaker 200 It's tough for me.

Speaker 136 It's tough for a lot of us to be in a theater that has a middle aisle.

Speaker 211 I just got to say, center aisle is tough.

Speaker 89 It is tough.

Speaker 19 You know, in terms of the layout, I was not loving.

Speaker 58 It's okay. But it's okay.

Speaker 82 It's not a knock on Angelica.

Speaker 174 It's just a knock on that seating arrangement in theaters the world over.

Speaker 150 They could never make me hate Angelica.

Speaker 159 They can never make me hate Angelica.

Speaker 89 No, they try because the seats do need a little bit of sprucing.

Speaker 72 And that bathroom can use a little bit of a sprucing.

Speaker 119 I daren't even go in.

Speaker 27 Oh, but I just shit myself right in the aisle.

Speaker 40 Girl,

Speaker 58 there's space. No one's using it.

Speaker 7 But I saw, so I saw the last show, girl, and because I'm excited for Pam.

Speaker 31 I'm a Pam super fan.

Speaker 68 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 88 I saw Chicago opening night with Pam.

Speaker 29 You saw Chicago opening night with Pam and you, we are both huge fans of the opening scene of Scary Movie 3.

Speaker 127 I mean, come on.

Speaker 31 All of Pam's work.

Speaker 28 Are you okay? You okay?

Speaker 25 Cow says moo.

Speaker 64 Dude.

Speaker 171 Dude.

Speaker 31 Dude.

Speaker 172 I mean, I'm a Pam fam.

Speaker 156 And let's go.

Speaker 56 Let's mention Jenny McCarthy.

Speaker 72 Sorry. Let's keep going.

Speaker 40 Not mentioning her.

Speaker 106 Not mentioning that one. I just mentioned her.

Speaker 165 What we need is her take on the fires and just

Speaker 40 um substance or last show girl so substance still i mean like i it's our favorite movie i knew i liked margaret quality you want to know why that's awesome because have you seen her kenzo ad yes she dances in for a commercial for kenzo which

Speaker 40 she's everything and

Speaker 113 you know she because i'm now a bleacher i'm a bleacher super fan

Speaker 246 She's in the music video for tiny moves by bleachers and it's just like just watching her be a stunning dancer.

Speaker 113 And I have to imagine like all that dance background went into

Speaker 167 her performance here.

Speaker 148 Just so funny, so smart, so committed.

Speaker 193 So, and to me,

Speaker 110 this is what blows me away about the substance and their performances in the substance.

Speaker 85 Can you just imagine getting that script and reading it and being like, you know what?

Speaker 166 Yeah.

Speaker 89 Three months of this for sure.

Speaker 148 I get it. I see it.

Speaker 69 And I'm willing to commit to this, despite the fact that that could have been a huge disaster well she's had she says that she had the same feeling reading that script as she did reading ghost where she was like this might not work this probably won't work it starts as one thing it goes into like it's like they pitched her ghost and it was like could read goofy it's a it's a rom-com thrill it's a it's a romantic thriller yeah like supernatural ghost story supernatural like multi-genre and which the substance is as well just the distillation of the tone of this movie is all in the billboard for the big New Year's Eve show.

Speaker 76 Oh, God.

Speaker 26 Like Matt.

Speaker 198 I was in tears just being like, this is so perfectly executed.

Speaker 160 Yeah.

Speaker 36 Like this billboard of Margaret, of Sue in this stupid fucking dress, head askew.

Speaker 86 Yep.

Speaker 69 The New Year's Eve show tomorrow, 9 p.m., which implies that they put that billboard up for one day the day before on December 30th.

Speaker 17 And then

Speaker 60 the next day, new billboard.

Speaker 192 Tonight.

Speaker 22 Tonight, 9 p.m.

Speaker 209 By the way, these billboards cost like that location of the billboard that they're insinuating

Speaker 31 easily.

Speaker 202 Easily. Easily.

Speaker 151 And it's just so funny because you could choose to watch this movie and be like, wait, what?

Speaker 3 It's getting screenplay honors.

Speaker 165 Yeah, this movie is goofy.

Speaker 199 Can

Speaker 93 because.

Speaker 201 The tone is so perfect from the second it starts to the end.

Speaker 208 And it's totally original.

Speaker 77 It's unlike anything.

Speaker 74 That's what I said out loud to you at one point during the movie where I I was just like, I've never seen anything like this.

Speaker 178 And what a fucking statement that is to say.

Speaker 166 You know who I'm not about me.

Speaker 51 I'm just saying about like us in film.

Speaker 93 No, 100%.

Speaker 78 You know, I spent like probably two and a half minutes of my Seth Meyers interview talking about.

Speaker 160 Oh, by the way.

Speaker 69 It was the first thing I said.

Speaker 165 I was like, okay, so he was like, Golden Globe's thoughts. I was like, yeah, we got to win Demi Morino.

Speaker 83 We got to win Demi Morano.

Speaker 228 Like, period, point blank.

Speaker 139 You were so great on Seth, by the way.

Speaker 65 My two-act legend.

Speaker 29 By the way, can we just.

Speaker 236 They did give me two acts. I felt really excited about that.

Speaker 98 You're getting many more acts

Speaker 71 because

Speaker 164 guess who's excited about your

Speaker 51 who seth Meyers.

Speaker 29 Oh, I just saw him for this shoot, and he was like, Well, I don't think people know about that yet.

Speaker 119 Okay, then I can't.

Speaker 209 Well, like we can blur that out, but there's something exciting coming.

Speaker 105 Something very happy, people are going to be very happy and

Speaker 156 excited about this.

Speaker 29 This is this is what the world needs now: love, sweet love.

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Speaker 40 okay you know what's actually driving me nuts just to go into some personal stuff so i i still have the blonde i'm like over the blonde i want to be i want to i want to be brunette again bad buzz but i have to i have to keep my hair growing out for something for something and so now i'm like do i go somewhere in new york and have them dye my hair brown no certainly not uh I just wait

Speaker 131 until you finish the thing.

Speaker 282 Because I need to have brown hair and long hair in the thing.

Speaker 157 Yeah, get a colored hair.

Speaker 26 That could be interesting. Okay.

Speaker 164 That could be so interesting.

Speaker 134 Or you get it shorn off now.

Speaker 65 Yeah. And then have it grow out.

Speaker 173 Who knows?

Speaker 15 And time is.

Speaker 113 Remember in college when I would do black?

Speaker 73 I remember the black era.

Speaker 15 You don't like that.

Speaker 29 I got to be honest with my sister and say I was not a huge fan, but it was right for the time because you were once again deeply committed to a role.

Speaker 119 Okay. I won't dye my hair black.

Speaker 76 I think it's just because you have black hair and you're callous.

Speaker 123 You don't want me to take

Speaker 198 your crowd doesn't go with your skin tone.

Speaker 156 You are a nasty.

Speaker 148 You're a nasty A-lister.

Speaker 31 I'm rude.

Speaker 102 You are a nasty A-lister.

Speaker 64 Rude.

Speaker 84 Oh, man.

Speaker 258 And you have your movie subscription and you think you're all that because of your movie.

Speaker 200 You need to get on Criterion channel.

Speaker 224 I feel like I'd get in the, yeah, I do need to get on Criterion channel.

Speaker 187 If I went in the closet, I'd be adrift.

Speaker 267 You would not.

Speaker 64 I do no film.

Speaker 40 Not perfect blue, et cetera.

Speaker 69 Yeah, perfect.

Speaker 261 The film. Is Perfect Blue Criterion?

Speaker 211 It is not Criterion.

Speaker 178 Well, that's a they don't have any Satoshi Kohn in Criterion, which is actually kind of crazy.

Speaker 75 They should.

Speaker 229 Well, Criterion, we know you're listening.

Speaker 215 We know you're listening.

Speaker 137 Change it. We love you.

Speaker 29 We're fans, by the way.

Speaker 245 Oh my God, I had a little Criterion kicker of the holidays and I watched Takeout by Sean Baker.

Speaker 173 Ooh.

Speaker 137 And it's so crazy how there is this consistency in his vocabulary as a filmmaker and the way he is so solid and confident in a realism on film.

Speaker 36 Like it's the same thing.

Speaker 98 It's the same preserved shit in Enora where you're like,

Speaker 200 there's just something about the dialogue and the way it's written and the direction that he finds it in the edit probably because he's an editor.

Speaker 163 Just takeout is so,

Speaker 99 if you can believe it, similar to Enora.

Speaker 212 It's obviously like he has, you know, working class class people in all of his films but it's like the thing about takeout is like it's this everyday operational thing at a place that you that is kind of invisible to society right like a strip club or a chinese restaurant but it's like the goings on the day-to-day goings on in those places is a huge a hugely important thing that defines character and that the characters the protagonists in these films are driven by like a survival instinct, you know, like, I'm sorry, I'm being so, I'm talking out of my eyes, but it's, it's, it's the same.

Speaker 164 It's at the bookends of Sean Baker.

Speaker 139 It's like from takeout to Anora.

Speaker 200 I'm like, God, just a filmmaker who is, who understands what he's there to do.

Speaker 104 Yeah.

Speaker 80 I mean, it's, you call it the working class.

Speaker 185 I would say it's his films are about the barely working class.

Speaker 15 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 77 Well, his films are about the barely surviving class.

Speaker 7 And I think that with Anora, I was watching an interview with Mikey.

Speaker 223 Actually, it was the, it was the Hollywood Reporter Actress Roundtable, which was great this year.

Speaker 113 And she was saying, because the whole table kind of turned to her at one point, she's very shy.

Speaker 41 She's very reserved.

Speaker 7 And it's, it's interesting to see her performance in Anora and then see her in real life.

Speaker 152 Like, she's just a talent. Yeah.

Speaker 40 I'm not a big, big fan of hers.

Speaker 117 But she was saying that it's a lot of improv.

Speaker 187 Like, like, that he'll just run the camera.

Speaker 154 Like, for example, in that first sequence when he just ran the camera, right?

Speaker 117 And she just kind of had to create ways in which her character would try to pick guys up.

Speaker 120 And, you know, if if you, if you've not seen an aura or don't know what we're talking about, it's Sean Baker's film starring Mikey Madison getting a ton of Oscar Buzz.

Speaker 119 Some people may even call it a frontrunner in many categories where she plays a stripper/slash sex worker who gets involved with this, like, you know, very wealthy Russian oligarch son.

Speaker 78 And they have a whirlwind romance, which is short-lived.

Speaker 140 And then there's a very harsh reality to the situation.

Speaker 148 But she,

Speaker 79 she really, like, I guess that's a thing with Sean Baker's movies is

Speaker 4 incredibly collaborative

Speaker 56 between the performers and him because he also gets he has casting credit on his movies he has edit credit he's got all this stuff in a way that I'd be interested to see how that makes casting directors feel but like this guy is totally in charge of what he's putting out there and yeah it's interesting it's like two different movies totally yeah oh you're talking about like a nora is like split into two totally it has that quality of like but it still works in like this traditional like three-act structure it's like oh like it all it all falls into the same yeah like marks or whatever it's like you have fun watching it like all his movies and then you leave heartbroken of course did you see red rocket i never got to see red rocket oh my god simon rex and i shared a plane one time really that's all i love simon rex i love him he's so great

Speaker 178 maybe three maybe three baby that important finally finally getting the flowers it deserves for being an important foundational text for comedy for film yeah for so many things well you know actually the last showgirl which when you see it, you'll know what I mean.

Speaker 108 The last showgirl, by the way, it's directed by Gia Coppola, Francis Warcoppola's granddaughter.

Speaker 209 The last showgirl, I was saying to Patrick Rogers, who I saw it with, the last showgirl was like a Sean Baker movie entirely through like a female gaze.

Speaker 247 And it was just an interesting thing to see in quick succession.

Speaker 90 But I don't even really know what my point is about that, but it's just

Speaker 58 scary movie three. Yes.

Speaker 56 One starring Pan Man Reson and one starring racks.

Speaker 209 Yeah.

Speaker 187 And hopefully we'll see Onafaris's.

Speaker 26 Oh my God.

Speaker 87 By the way, heart goes out to her.

Speaker 110 She lost her home.

Speaker 31 I mean.

Speaker 135 I just think we are ready for the Oniferis Assange.

Speaker 166 Oh, I've been ready.

Speaker 187 I have been so ready that I don't think there's, I think there's few people that are that big of a sword.

Speaker 238 Well, you know,

Speaker 135 to be totally on the nose, I like watched Lost in Translation again on my way to Japan.

Speaker 153 Oh, God, she's so great in it.

Speaker 199 She's so fucking good in that. Yeah.

Speaker 5 You watched Lost in Translation on the Way to Japan.

Speaker 56 Yeah, I was like, I have it on.

Speaker 24 I was like, I have it downloaded on my iPad.

Speaker 61 I was was like, I was like, it's been a while.

Speaker 175 That is so funny.

Speaker 10 You know, my interesting thing that I would love to ask Sophia Copel about is you can tell that that entire movie, it's like, it is a platonic thing, and then it becomes a little bit romantic at the end.

Speaker 139 For anyone who hasn't seen Lost in Translation, I'm sorry to spoil, but it's like, I wonder if that was the thing that like Sophia kind of got like.

Speaker 133 pressured into doing or if that was an artistic choice.

Speaker 31 I also wish it was an improvised choice.

Speaker 73 They like, they kiss at the end.

Speaker 31 Do they, I haven't seen it in a while.

Speaker 29 It's like a very like, it's not like a gross kiss, but it's just like, it's a kiss and it's like romantic. And maybe it isn't.

Speaker 234 Maybe it is a platonic kiss because those exist.

Speaker 8 But like, anyway, I don't know.

Speaker 139 I just like, I just think that movie is so great when, when it's just purely through the lens of like, these are two lost people who find each other and their company is all they need.

Speaker 42 And it doesn't have to be sexual or romantic or anything.

Speaker 76 Anyway, I remember that.

Speaker 212 That was Scarlett Johansson's moment of stepping into like an ALA.

Speaker 124 Because she was, I remember she got like two Golden Globe nominations, which by the way congrats to Sebastian Stan who finally got his flowers and thank God because I'm proud of him and he's working hard and he's just what a guy he's just our fave and I was really really really happy for him that he got something because again And what he said is true.

Speaker 151 He's like, when his speech, he was like, we can't be afraid of this type of, we can't be afraid to make art and talk about art.

Speaker 60 Cause that's like a bad sign. We're in bad, dire straits.

Speaker 214 If we start to be like, well, you can't say this, can't say that.

Speaker 205 I mean, already you see the normalizing, Ms.

Speaker 91 Underwood.

Speaker 239 Oh, like it's just interesting.

Speaker 124 It's just

Speaker 31 really interesting.

Speaker 64 It's really interesting.

Speaker 88 You think about it.

Speaker 63 I'm smoking a huge cigarette that's eight feet long.

Speaker 94 Do you have anything else to say about the substance other than it is the best movie of all time?

Speaker 37 It really, it's one of my favorites.

Speaker 98 It really is one of my favorites.

Speaker 40 And it's so gross, you guys.

Speaker 134 It's disgusting, which is the whole point.

Speaker 29 But am I crazy? Like,

Speaker 139 obviously, there's so many visual references to the shining.

Speaker 201 No, I don't think you're crazy at all.

Speaker 113 In fact, I didn't pick up on them until you were pointing them out throughout the film.

Speaker 158 I mean, like, the pattern on the carpet, the bat, like, her coming in that bathroom, literally looking like the old woman.

Speaker 13 Oh, the prosthetics in this.

Speaker 89 First of all, hair and makeup, Oscar. Oh, please.

Speaker 18 There's no question.

Speaker 148 I think, honestly, sound.

Speaker 178 Oh, the set. The sound, please.

Speaker 31 This has to be a drama denomination too.

Speaker 194 And the script. And both of them.

Speaker 144 Like, it's crazy to me.

Speaker 5 And tell me if you feel the same.

Speaker 187 To watch that movie and be like, this is an Oscar contender is exciting

Speaker 169 and insane.

Speaker 82 Because I was talking to Seth about this.

Speaker 105 It's like, I love that it's not an Oscar bait movie.

Speaker 40 Yeah.

Speaker 107 No, that's the thing, too, I love is that not one person involved picked that script up and said, you know, this is going to get me an Oscar.

Speaker 33 No.

Speaker 80 And again, Rubrik, could anyone else have done it better?

Speaker 20 There's something very special about Demi in particular taking it on.

Speaker 15 And let's just speak about her for one second.

Speaker 19 And I told you when this sequence started, which was her going back to the mirror.

Speaker 34 There's a sequence where she, she, in the middle of the substance process, has like second thoughts and she is preparing for a date with this guy that she meets.

Speaker 108 And she just keeps going back to the mirror because she's so insecure and hates herself so much.

Speaker 218 The specific rage and hatred with which she looks at herself in the mirror and the really quiet performance, because she's not in dialogue with like anyone, no, but she carries this whole thing.

Speaker 19 Like, you don't emotionally miss a second of it.

Speaker 74 It's purely about the interiority of this hatred that you have with yourself.

Speaker 202 Yeah, that you're just like, and also, even just the way, like, Demis, very long, dark hair, like, there's something like really

Speaker 4 specific and dark about

Speaker 151 every frame of the movie, and she is the perfect center for it because of her lived experience.

Speaker 20 Yes, that she brings in her acting, but also just like

Speaker 154 it just feels like this was the role she was born to play, and the experiences that she's had like uniquely prepare her to take on this role.

Speaker 154 And then the casting of Margaret Quelly, too, is like you'd fully believe that's her younger double.

Speaker 193 You believe that they occupy that same thing, and it's just great.

Speaker 69 It's just a great

Speaker 108 triumph all the way around, and the directing and the specificity of the shots.

Speaker 25 Oh, well, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 73 Like all these shining references, you could not have asked for a better modernization of Dorian Gray.

Speaker 72 It is, it even ups the ante of that with the final act of the film where it's like, oh, well, that is the most perfect choice to have the story go there and then to show it on film.

Speaker 31 Yeah.

Speaker 65 I love it. I love that movie.

Speaker 6 Thematically, too, So interesting.

Speaker 87 Like the substance really speaks to like this new revival of Sunset Boulevard, which and then I see Last Showgirl.

Speaker 108 It speaks to that.

Speaker 272 Like just a lot of people.

Speaker 198 Exploitation that you brought up.

Speaker 178 Baby Jane.

Speaker 217 It's like, oh, it's, it's all of these things.

Speaker 25 Yeah.

Speaker 189 And also,

Speaker 63 I think people might balk at the fact that it was like, and also there's like tons of reasons to balk whenever like the Golden Globes were, however, the categorization goes in terms of the award stuff, like, you know, are these actual supporting actors?

Speaker 68 Like,

Speaker 113 is this really a comedy, et cetera?

Speaker 185 This is an amazing comedy.

Speaker 73 It's a great

Speaker 7 total, it is a total satire on

Speaker 144 exactly where we're at in the culture right now.

Speaker 141 In the way that, and that's another thing, too, is it's like, I'm sure it helps to be a woman of a certain age to really understand this, but we all know what it's like to look at ourselves and hate

Speaker 113 what we see or like, because that's another thing Demi talks a lot about in the press that she does for the movie, is it's like, so much of what rang true to her was the violence that we do to ourselves.

Speaker 76 It's less about the messaging from the media and stuff and more about how we accept and believe and act on those things.

Speaker 110 And that is, I think, what I

Speaker 4 recognized is like,

Speaker 26 yeah.

Speaker 29 It is society to some extent, but it's not just, it's, you would be irresponsible to say that it's just that.

Speaker 95 No, it's like a red flag from society, but then like you have to take ownership over what you are doing and being like okay this is good for me this is bad for me i can tell the difference but sometimes you just fall too far it's it's sad i mean even the last sequence of the movie is incredibly over the top it's heartbreaking i know like there's specifically one moment where there's like a little bit of dialogue from the character and it's sad it's heartbreaking and then the last image of the movie is deeply heartbreaking i love it but also so funny and genius It's so funny.

Speaker 213 Oh my God.

Speaker 271 We said, we said Oscar Award.

Speaker 162 Academy Award.

Speaker 31 Speaking of awards.

Speaker 113 How are we going to get Salt Lake City this season in Emmy?

Speaker 31 It needs

Speaker 93 nobody.

Speaker 26 Yeah, it needs something of high caliber.

Speaker 26 Yeah, Nobel.

Speaker 69 Culture Award.

Speaker 112 The way that you can expect to see the Housewives of Salt Lake City back at the culture awards.

Speaker 66 This is

Speaker 66 the part when I feel feel

Speaker 31 feelings.

Speaker 86 Two seasons in a row of tens.

Speaker 43 Tens,

Speaker 238 tens, tens, tens in television.

Speaker 185 So Brooke Ashley was emotional in her recap.

Speaker 107 I need to watch Brooke Ashley.

Speaker 156 Did you watch her recap yet?

Speaker 158 I didn't know, but you know, we love Brooke Ashley.

Speaker 189 First of all,

Speaker 85 Meredith Marks

Speaker 165 for saying lies and spreading lies.

Speaker 287 Hey, hey, Laf!

Speaker 28 You disgust me.

Speaker 276 I can't believe I have you in my home!

Speaker 31 I'm my home. My home.

Speaker 184 Mary, get her, Mary.

Speaker 31 Get her. Get her, Meredith.

Speaker 142 We haven't.

Speaker 78 It's been several weeks, so we haven't been able to really impart.

Speaker 147 If you're still not watching the House of Design City, you're not doing

Speaker 198 life right.

Speaker 178 If you're not doing life, the way I'm encouraging Matt to let go of this self-identification is not being a horror fan.

Speaker 81 If you're not a Bravo person, if you've identified as I'm not a Bravo person, you have permission to let that go.

Speaker 99 You are missing out on something truly special.

Speaker 76 Wouldn't you say? I would say, Bo.

Speaker 94 I would say.

Speaker 152 I think that, again, like the way that they operate as a cast.

Speaker 189 Also, like, put some respect on Britney's name.

Speaker 41 She really is that crazy.

Speaker 128 I mean,

Speaker 192 I was sending a video.

Speaker 64 You guys.

Speaker 67 I just love the safe placement of all of her anger and grief.

Speaker 58 You guys, this is ridiculous.

Speaker 56 She's a singer.

Speaker 68 I've never taped in my life.

Speaker 31 I'm in shock.

Speaker 36 I mean, her. She must return.

Speaker 71 She must return.

Speaker 62 She has earned her keep.

Speaker 215 Absolutely.

Speaker 170 Meanwhile, how bored were we last night watching Potomac?

Speaker 31 Oh,

Speaker 163 it is.

Speaker 69 It started off strong.

Speaker 158 And now it's just boring and, can we say,

Speaker 59 sad and tragic?

Speaker 200 We wish Karen Huger the best, but

Speaker 212 something is not timing out correctly if she...

Speaker 29 has allegedly been in rehab for weeks, but also was seen at Kathy Hilton's holiday party.

Speaker 36 And she's missing the reunion.

Speaker 99 Anyway, we're getting into Brass.

Speaker 138 We're getting into Brad.

Speaker 187 We just wish Karen the best because clearly there's not everything is right there.

Speaker 170 And so I honestly, well,

Speaker 108 if you're a fan of the housewives universe, like and you're in it, you know that you probably saw the video of like her arrest after drunk driving, which was not the first time.

Speaker 3 And I just, I don't really understand thinking you could plead not guilty based on what was became readily available to the public.

Speaker 3 But again, that just makes me feel like clearly there's someone that really needs a lot of help.

Speaker 246 And if she's getting the help regardless of the situation, then that is good.

Speaker 29 Yes.

Speaker 135 And our commentary does not matter in that regard.

Speaker 47 Oh, is this the script for challengers?

Speaker 28 Yeah.

Speaker 80 Gag.

Speaker 258 Okay, so you're up to date on your WGA dues.

Speaker 31 And you are paid mine.

Speaker 65 Well, girl, expect the

Speaker 5 this would be a fabulous to read.

Speaker 61 You want to read it? You want to borrow?

Speaker 92 You actually do. Yeah.

Speaker 52 Have you already read it or you're not going to?

Speaker 29 I have not read it, but it's been sitting there too long.

Speaker 37 You know what, you know what I mean?

Speaker 61 Like, you take it.

Speaker 54 By the way, not enough challengers in the Oscar discourse.

Speaker 65 Seth Meyers, and I'm just, I'm just kind of parroting what Seth Meyers just said to me an hour ago.

Speaker 31 Well, we love him very much. We love him.

Speaker 236 And he actually.

Speaker 158 I love that.

Speaker 77 He will be winning another.

Speaker 75 He will be winning another culture award. He said it.

Speaker 58 He was saying, Josh O'Connor, where's all the love for him?

Speaker 52 Oh, now he's just gay baiting.

Speaker 136 He's queer baiting.

Speaker 46 How dare he?

Speaker 165 And if

Speaker 170 you know what I'm, I'm retracting everything.

Speaker 46 Seth Meyers, how dare you do this?

Speaker 187 You can't be all these things and then be like, look Bowen Yang in the eye and say, can't believe Josh O'Connor's not getting love.

Speaker 219 Like, how dare you?

Speaker 5 You're trying. It's working on love.

Speaker 58 And you don't think we're going to be.

Speaker 162 He's working on me.

Speaker 86 And you.

Speaker 102 Oh, please. When I go to that show, I'm just thinking.

Speaker 157 He's the best.

Speaker 148 He is the best and effortless.

Speaker 4 And can I say,

Speaker 7 when you go on that show, you get like a special card before you even.

Speaker 58 So

Speaker 80 that's exactly why I brought it up.

Speaker 89 The man's penmanship is a late-night host's penmanship.

Speaker 24 A masculine yet classy.

Speaker 18 Stylish.

Speaker 59 Stylish thriller.

Speaker 172 Thriller.

Speaker 224 His penmanship is a stylish thriller.

Speaker 96 Stylish thriller.

Speaker 248 That's actually Riller Culture number 88.

Speaker 237 Seth Teinmyers' penmanship is a stylish thriller.

Speaker 212 You know that man has letters that are being kept in a book.

Speaker 76 I hope they're published one day. I hope they publish.
His letters to Alexis.

Speaker 102 God, you know, I just hope

Speaker 94 that his letters are published.

Speaker 144 And

Speaker 154 what more chic thing could you say about someone than that one day you hope their letters are published?

Speaker 222 he was wearing a suit i'm sure and the entire room was like my god we're so not used to him being in a suit anymore but god he a man has a man has never looked better in a suit no it's actually a shame for the world that he doesn't wear the suit every day but you know what though he also can rock a crew neck sweater it's not fair

Speaker 86 It's, I'm saying it's not fair for us as crew neck sweater wearers.

Speaker 212 We can't compete, but it's also not fair for us as an audience because we don't see him. We want to toggle back and forth.

Speaker 290 When he's wearing the suit, we want to see him in the sweater.

Speaker 234 When he's wearing the sweater, we want to see him in the suit.

Speaker 246 And it all comes down to the truth, which is we just want to see Seth Meyers.

Speaker 96 Period. Bars.
Bars.

Speaker 84 So was it just you and him today doing a photo show?

Speaker 197 No, it was

Speaker 56 many members of the

Speaker 42 great Seth Myers, the great Kate McKinnon, the great Leslie Jones, the great Keenan Thompson, and the great Molly Shannon.

Speaker 58 Wow. It was a fun, fun little

Speaker 58 fun group.

Speaker 175 Nice collection. Yeah.

Speaker 41 How's Molly?

Speaker 231 Molly's so good.

Speaker 178 Oh, she was asking about you.

Speaker 22 Molly.

Speaker 129 I love. We were comparing notes about Japan, our Japan trips.

Speaker 22 She went with her family.

Speaker 178 She went a few years ago, but it's her favorite place.

Speaker 81 And the thing I have trouble with is just remembering names in Japan, especially.

Speaker 217 And she was just able to just rattle them off the top of her head.

Speaker 130 And

Speaker 178 that is a woman who knows

Speaker 104 so cute.

Speaker 58 She goes, you know, the hotels I booked, booking.com.

Speaker 169 Like, she was just at booking.com.

Speaker 237 I went on there and she's like, oh, how's Matt?

Speaker 175 Oh, how is he?

Speaker 56 He's so good. He's so good.

Speaker 31 I literally, she is so classic.

Speaker 289 How's your mother? It's good that you and your mother are close.

Speaker 15 It's great. It's really good.
It's really good, mother.

Speaker 124 It's great that you guys are close.

Speaker 142 It really is. Oh, really?

Speaker 24 Isn't that funny?

Speaker 43 Isn't that funny?

Speaker 180 Funny?

Speaker 57 I said to him, I was like, I think that's so funny.

Speaker 18 That's so funny.

Speaker 58 Wait, I, oh my God, I'll tell you.

Speaker 18 Seth looks so good in his suit.

Speaker 31 I'm going to text her.

Speaker 44 True.

Speaker 161 Let's do a quick cruise quiz. Ready?

Speaker 252 Second question.

Speaker 226 Would you rather have an overstuffed itinerary or the freedom to explore stunning?

Speaker 257 And there's so much included value.

Speaker 11 Over $1,000. Right.

Speaker 19 Over $1,000 of awesomeness all included.

Speaker 201 Wi-Fi, soda, top-tier entertainment, over 20 restaurants, and even group fitness classes.

Speaker 3 No hidden fees, no surprise charges.

Speaker 12 Virgin Voyages gives you the kind of luxury you actually deserve.

Speaker 260 And you know what?

Speaker 96 I deserve luxury.

Speaker 122 You do, and me too.

Speaker 253 Yes.

Speaker 261 There's always something happening on board.

Speaker 262 From wellness-focused sailings to epic holiday voyages, live music, DJs, themed parties, and more.

Speaker 250 Boredom doesn't board the ship.

Speaker 263 And there are so many amazing stops.

Speaker 146 You leave from Miami and sail to places like Grand Cayman, Jamaica, Puerto Rico, and the Dominican Republic.

Speaker 2 Virgin even has their own private beach club in Bibini.

Speaker 100 And they're adding stops in 2025 and 2026.

Speaker 146 Oh, and did I mention Virgin Voyages is launching a new ship, The Brilliant Lady?

Speaker 149 She's bigger, bolder, and packed with even more Virgin Wow factor.

Speaker 6 That's virginvoyages.com.

Speaker 126 Okay, so you know how the world is a chaotic, swirling ball of total stress right now?

Speaker 270 Get it?

Speaker 249 She breaks off from a crusty male-dominated law firm to start her own legal coven with some absolute forces of nature.

Speaker 275 Naomi Watts, Nicy Nash Betts, Tiana Taylor, and Glenn Close.

Speaker 49 And of course, you need a villain, so say hello to Sarah Paulson as the nemesis.

Speaker 14 Her professional life crashes into her personal one and uh-oh.

Speaker 254 So how does this super lawyer fix her own mess?

Speaker 12 And of course, everything is gonna look amazing.

Speaker 14 It's got some unapologetic glam, a work hard, play-harder lifestyle.

Speaker 215 Lame men, underpaying jobs.

Speaker 2 Well, stop.

Speaker 91 All's fair, now streaming on Hulu, and on Hulu on Disney Plus for bundle subscribers.

Speaker 175 Terms apply, drama guaranteed.

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Speaker 147 Not a single word more without you telling us about your Japan trip.

Speaker 214 Jesus Christ. See, there were so many other things.

Speaker 77 And this is

Speaker 80 truly a comment on the speed of culture moving by us at such a pace. Yes.

Speaker 190 Please talk about your trip.

Speaker 16 I'll just keep it short.

Speaker 189 No, tell them everything you need to know because you were having such a fabulous time.

Speaker 13 I was so happy.

Speaker 158 It was from the moment I got onto the Pokemon-themed plane.

Speaker 43 Matt,

Speaker 76 let that sing.

Speaker 58 It burst open

Speaker 86 the seal on my

Speaker 217 whole life has led up to that trip.

Speaker 89 I'm not really the kind of person that's like, oh my God, let me take a picture of the little accoutrements on the plane.

Speaker 227 But I was like, you were taking a photo of every knickknack.

Speaker 29 knickknack that flight looked so cute and gorgeous it was a cute gorgeous flight some of the best food period kawaii kawaii

Speaker 31 what do you think kawaii means super cool super cute okay it means super cute in japanese i listen to love agent music

Speaker 190 Well, you know, you go to Japanese.

Speaker 237 You were saying this.

Speaker 28 You were saying this.

Speaker 196 You go to Japan and I'm like, I get why Gwen did that.

Speaker 198 How could you not be obsessed with that?

Speaker 96 Yeah, she was inspired.

Speaker 29 You walk through Harajuku and you're like, I'm doing an album about this.

Speaker 56 I'm doing an album about this.

Speaker 192 I'm doing a big pop record about this.

Speaker 70 Like, that song is A.

Speaker 71 Oh, my God. I just.

Speaker 76 So, what were the highlights?

Speaker 164 The highlights, I mean, it's tough to cut it together.

Speaker 37 Sean Baker, I am not.

Speaker 212 I cannot edit this down, but it is,

Speaker 212 it was literally like the moment I got there, I get a text from Eric Nam,

Speaker 105 wonderful, wonderful artist

Speaker 81 person.

Speaker 105 He's just like, oh my God, you're in Tokyo?

Speaker 69 Like, Otsuko, Okatsuka, the legend, former Lost Culture guest is here.

Speaker 15 Love, love.

Speaker 198 Otsuko and Ronnie Cheng are here. We're doing karaoke tonight.

Speaker 73 Come meet us. Oh, my God.

Speaker 198 We go to Shinjuku, me and my friend Jake, who's there.

Speaker 104 Shout out to Jake.

Speaker 29 If you're in Williamsburg, if you need a nice

Speaker 83 short men's haircut, the guy's booked.

Speaker 178 He's busy, but Piju, check out his salon.

Speaker 212 Hands down the best vibe in Williamsburg of any place.

Speaker 200 Did karaoke with them.

Speaker 164 That's so funny.

Speaker 212 A little 11-year-old boy was that Ronnie Cheng's 11-year-old nephew was there.

Speaker 211 This boy who freaked out when he saw Eric Nam because he loves K-pop.

Speaker 135 He loves Eric Nam.

Speaker 178 Freaked out.

Speaker 134 We all sang there was a full back line.

Speaker 212 Monica, shout out to Monica.

Speaker 105 Our friend Monica took us to a pro wrestling match, not a sumo match, a pro wrestling match in the Tokyo Dome, which is also where Taylor Swift performed the Aristotle.

Speaker 128 Yeah.

Speaker 211 And the entire time I was thinking Taylor was just there.

Speaker 31 Just there.

Speaker 43 I mean,

Speaker 105 all of it, just going to, just seeing the sites, the shopping. Oh,

Speaker 104 Joshua at the Oral East store.

Speaker 74 We got a beautiful experience there.

Speaker 222 I mean, the food.

Speaker 42 It's like France.

Speaker 69 It's like they hold in highest regard their culture, like in terms of like the film and the television.

Speaker 212 Like think about, like, just think about like Japanese film and like

Speaker 70 the caliber of that, the food, the hospitality.

Speaker 200 the fashion. It's all very French.

Speaker 29 It's like they're, they're like the French in that they like really care about this shit and making sure it's delightful and We have to go.

Speaker 180 We have to go.

Speaker 65 We're going for my birthday period.

Speaker 178 We can't go and we're going and I you know what and I was sad about that I that I canceled my last minute Disney Sea trip because it just there just wasn't enough time and it was just stressful.

Speaker 51 It was like the busiest domestic travel time in Japan. It's New Year's week because everyone has work off.

Speaker 29 But I was like, no, this is better because the first time I go to Disney Sea and Disneyland and Universal Studios Osaka will be with my sister.

Speaker 175 Let's block out like a lot of time.

Speaker 124 time.

Speaker 119 Yeah, I was going to say in the beginning of November or end of October.

Speaker 211 I don't need to do Halloween in the States.

Speaker 40 Girl, who does?

Speaker 29 Oh, none of you do. None of you do.

Speaker 74 Think about it.

Speaker 248 When they keep saying Christmas gets longer, I said, Yeah, I hope it eats Halloween right up.

Speaker 52 That way I can get started earlier.

Speaker 43 Make more coin.

Speaker 277 Make even more coin than I ever have.

Speaker 68 I'm coming for you.

Speaker 68 September.

Speaker 113 The month of August slipped away like a bottle of wine because I'm drinking it.

Speaker 5 The Prince of Christmas.

Speaker 31 Bitch.

Speaker 161 We haven't reflected.

Speaker 29 We have reflected on post-Prince of Christmas tour, haven't we?

Speaker 187 Actually, well, first, I want to say it was the best it ever was.

Speaker 63 And I know I said this at the end.

Speaker 187 And I was really looking forward at the end.

Speaker 3 It was kind of, it wasn't even bittersweet to end it because I was like, we fucking nailed it.

Speaker 166 I'm so in love with my band and those boys, Henry, Ethan, Jordan, and Derek.

Speaker 80 Love them.

Speaker 109 We had the best time.

Speaker 127 And I'm already booking for next year.

Speaker 289 Here we go.

Speaker 151 Truly, I will figure out ways to make it even better next year.

Speaker 22 Wow.

Speaker 31 It's hard to top.

Speaker 253 Hard to top.

Speaker 68 Like me in my late 20s.

Speaker 193 Yeah, I mean, that's true.

Speaker 221 But anyway, like, okay, speaking of, it wasn't hard to top me at all in Miami.

Speaker 78 Even after my accident.

Speaker 67 I haven't talked about this on the pod.

Speaker 164 You were throwing neck after the accident?

Speaker 157 Babe.

Speaker 121 So I finished the tour.

Speaker 148 I go home for a few days to Long Island to be with the folks.

Speaker 140 Yes.

Speaker 151 And then I go to Miami, thinking, actually, like, we've planned it enough where it can be like kind of a low-key Miami trip.

Speaker 241 Get there.

Speaker 259 No one realized it was gay circuit week.

Speaker 166 So I go that night to a party.

Speaker 89 I'm not going to say where.

Speaker 167 I'm not going to say what party because I don't want to cause any trouble.

Speaker 56 Oh,

Speaker 165 there were wet stairs.

Speaker 185 I absolutely bit it

Speaker 102 on some stairs, landed on my tailbone.

Speaker 89 I know, secondhand, you guys are probably wincing and in pain hearing me talk about this.

Speaker 108 Yeah, it was bad.

Speaker 187 Bruised tailbone at the very least.

Speaker 113 It honestly may be broken.

Speaker 158 No,

Speaker 76 because it's actually been two weeks now.

Speaker 131 Yeah, Matt.

Speaker 215 Two weeks now, almost to the day.

Speaker 20 Yeah, almost. No, yesterday was two weeks when it happened.

Speaker 184 And it's still actually, I worked out for the very first time today at Barry's just to see what I was capable of.

Speaker 94 Can't do abs or anything where you use like that part of your body as like a fulcrum because it's, it's still very painful.

Speaker 211 And can I ask?

Speaker 99 You did not see a professional. Not yet, because that's what Michael Fisher was asking me this morning.

Speaker 234 He was like, but did Matt, has Matt gone to see someone?

Speaker 232 I was like, I don't know.

Speaker 185 So it is getting better.

Speaker 151 It is getting better.

Speaker 89 But the thing is with a tailbone thing.

Speaker 102 And first of all, I know I love you readers and medical professionals that are going to reach out.

Speaker 3 I really am okay.

Speaker 108 It's just discomfort.

Speaker 78 Like there's nothing you can really do for a tailbone bruise or even break.

Speaker 40 You kind of just have to wait it out.

Speaker 89 And I'm okay.

Speaker 78 It's just uncomfortable to sit or lay down on your back, which is like kind of

Speaker 63 really my favorite stuff to do after I've like completed the tour and New Year's.

Speaker 68 I got back and I was just like, oh, God.

Speaker 166 And so it's been a very uncomfortable couple of weeks, but I will say it did not stop me from getting it in.

Speaker 69 That's amazing. I'm so happy for you.

Speaker 43 I am too.

Speaker 31 When there's a will

Speaker 60 and there was a big will.

Speaker 18 And there was a big i was i'm in like another horny era great are you maybe

Speaker 167 expand like it's been presented oh like opportunities have presented themselves in new york sure

Speaker 158 sure and i'm like

Speaker 181 yeah

Speaker 43 you could take it or leave it i could take it or i shouldn't that's actually powerful i know I wish I was more enthusiastic about it.

Speaker 117 I'm like that about it.

Speaker 164 But it's the holidays, you know, I'm like, oh, I, I feel like I can like, I mean, this is such toxic thinking, but I'm like, give me another month to like get myself right.

Speaker 96 Just in terms of like,

Speaker 211 I'm still bouncing back from the holidays and this trip, honestly, where I'm like, let me actually

Speaker 103 not be

Speaker 40 a dog.

Speaker 98 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 89 You know what I mean? Oh, 100%.

Speaker 214 No, I, I, because you were just doing a lot of scheduled stuff.

Speaker 76 So take it easy.

Speaker 53 I honestly feel like the second dating becomes like,

Speaker 3 you know, a bunch of activities or like things on the schedule.

Speaker 113 Like,

Speaker 75 let's pull it back. It's only coming out of it.

Speaker 89 Who even knows where they're at?

Speaker 31 Totally. I don't know where I'm at.

Speaker 187 I thought I was last year, all throughout the year, I was like, oh, I really want a boyfriend again.

Speaker 119 I want a boyfriend again.

Speaker 91 And now I'm like, maybe you don't.

Speaker 108 Like, maybe that was just something you were telling yourself.

Speaker 31 Yeah.

Speaker 36 Well, you know, I'm still in husband search.

Speaker 160 Yeah.

Speaker 169 But if he shows up, I would love that.

Speaker 43 You can't just marry anybody.

Speaker 58 You can't. That's what I guess.

Speaker 56 I think you can.

Speaker 156 Wait, I think I had had a dream the other night that I got married.

Speaker 77 Really? Yeah, I had like a dream that I got full-on married.

Speaker 135 And was it amazing or was it like, whoa.

Speaker 170 No, the whole time I was like, wait, what?

Speaker 16 What did I do that for?

Speaker 31 Yeah.

Speaker 171 To a woman, maybe. Oh,

Speaker 173 that's fun.

Speaker 219 Definitely recently, this is now come into my mind.

Speaker 141 There was definitely a dream recently where I got married to a woman.

Speaker 164 That's amazing.

Speaker 187 Yeah, and it was like a whole thing of like, well,

Speaker 127 how are we going to make this work?

Speaker 61 You'll make it work.

Speaker 159 i guess hmm all right is there anything else before we get into i mean literally there are other things so many things but traitors oh loving the traders this year

Speaker 116 i will say this

Speaker 245 i did not so we had heard a false spoiler we heard a false spoiler and i think it was falsely relayed by the person

Speaker 196 Let's just say, let's just say, we had heard a false spoiler at the Culture Awards that,

Speaker 187 and we won't say who relayed the message, but we had heard a false spoiler that Bob the Drag Queen was out first.

Speaker 212 That is definitely not true.

Speaker 203 And that is certainly not true.

Speaker 66 And not even out.

Speaker 165 First of all, okay, spoiler alert for the traders.

Speaker 187 Bob the Drag Queen is one of the traders. Yes.

Speaker 228 And

Speaker 107 I love it as a choice.

Speaker 89 I don't know Danielle from Big Brother too much.

Speaker 41 I know a lot about Carolyn.

Speaker 40 And obviously, Rob Mariano, Boston Rob, is a full reality television legend.

Speaker 94 I think the cast actually is better overall this year than last year.

Speaker 92 Oh, sure.

Speaker 78 Because it feels like they're playing the game and less like on a reality show.

Speaker 22 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 160 Yes.

Speaker 158 You know, I think there is

Speaker 99 what a fun opportunity for a course correction in terms of like a collective.

Speaker 81 Like this cast is decided.

Speaker 51 I mean, maybe they were given a note or something, but like really play the game this time and don't necessarily worry about like the drama of it.

Speaker 31 Yeah.

Speaker 152 And I think that that is to this season's benefit.

Speaker 160 Yeah.

Speaker 156 Who are you rooting for?

Speaker 191 We're rooting for Bob. We love Bob.

Speaker 215 So you're rooting for the Traders.

Speaker 37 I'm running for the Traders because, and I love Carolyn so much, and I think Carolyn is playing it right.

Speaker 194 Carolyn is doing it right.

Speaker 93 Danielle and Bob, I mean, they're both doing too much.

Speaker 105 They're doing too much, but we still root for them.

Speaker 134 Who else?

Speaker 105 Chris? We love seeing Chrischell on TV.

Speaker 7 I want Chriselle to win the show.

Speaker 178 Oh, so that's who you're rooting for.

Speaker 164 You're rooting for a favorite.

Speaker 4 Chriselle's my pal, so I'm rooting for her.

Speaker 189 Yeah, totally.

Speaker 254 And of course, course, Dolores Catania, my number one.

Speaker 91 You're number one.

Speaker 139 And I love Dolores here as well.

Speaker 100 Dolores?

Speaker 178 I just want to put out there that based on this them video that Matt and I did, it made it seem like I was the anti-Dolores.

Speaker 228 No, no, I think you were just surprised.

Speaker 159 I was just surprised that your number one housewife was Dolores.

Speaker 230 And I said, Dolores, and then maybe that made her think that, or people think that I don't like her.

Speaker 15 I think you were just surprised.

Speaker 151 You were surprised to hear me say that Dolores Catania was my favorite housewife of all time, which I can understand because I don't think I'm like always spouting out about Dolores because, and I think it's precisely why she's my number one is because

Speaker 26 I feel very at home when she's on television.

Speaker 67 She reminds me of all my mom's friends.

Speaker 75 Oh, that's so beautiful.

Speaker 74 But how, what about this statement?

Speaker 134 Meredith Marks.

Speaker 212 Because I think, especially after last week on Salt Lake, one of the best housewives of enough.

Speaker 28 There's no question.

Speaker 211 She's had enough seasons under her belt now, five, where she's done consistently great work.

Speaker 139 Where I go, she is one of the ultimate housewives.

Speaker 100 She's done iconic things in every season yep she's done iconic things in every season and again we say this with equal love for friend of the pod angie katanevas and heather gay and whitney rose and i just i love these women these women i will miss these women so much it's not over yet but i'm counting it it's like we've got finale this week and then we've got you know three reunions i heard but here's the thing i heard we have a phenomenal finale and a really really

Speaker 51 andy said stellar reunion i love it and they looked good they looked great i love the pink and the red i do hope miami comes back with the force i need them

Speaker 29 i need to have this it's the sphere of empty i need to have that empty filled up once they once salt lake leaves but meredith barks

Speaker 178 absolutely is making the is just on them on the mount rush more Oh, certainly.

Speaker 192 Meredith is

Speaker 203 like from episode one or two of I'm disengaging, like the hits keep coming.

Speaker 215 I think next Ultimate Girls trip, we do need to have Lisa and Meredith go.

Speaker 138 We need Meredith there.

Speaker 187 Like Meredith there, and also Lisa has earned it too.

Speaker 89 Like Lisa, first of all, you know what I noticed about Lisa Barlow?

Speaker 192 The character game that she plays

Speaker 168 is so strong.

Speaker 151 She every single time, she gives you exactly what you,

Speaker 27 if you were to logically sit down and be like, what's Lisa Barlow going to do?

Speaker 185 She does it every single time.

Speaker 53 She's always And it's always satisfying.

Speaker 208 I just feel so deceived.

Speaker 31 Literally,

Speaker 192 so deceived.

Speaker 67 The first scene of this is her sitting down to text everyone.

Speaker 147 I'm really thinking about last night and how I was wronged.

Speaker 89 Like, not taking accountability over anything.

Speaker 145 Not that in that situation, she particularly needed to, but like.

Speaker 63 She goes, I know we're going to talk about it on the way to ATV.

Speaker 228 And then she explains she chose ATV because she Googled luxury activities.

Speaker 28 All that mattered to her was that it was a luxury activity.

Speaker 84 Not that it made sense for them.

Speaker 210 I said, that's housewifery.

Speaker 53 And at the same time, to have a diet of trash.

Speaker 58 I mean, this is just, it's.

Speaker 163 It's a great TV character.

Speaker 34 You couldn't write a better person. Yeah.

Speaker 165 Unless her name was Elizabeth Sparkle.

Speaker 135 Unless her name was Elizabeth Sparkle.

Speaker 72 Unless I thought you were going to say her name was Elizabeth.

Speaker 288 What's her face from Anatomy of Live?

Speaker 66 Elizabeth Finch.

Speaker 66 Elizabeth Finch. She, too, you couldn't write.

Speaker 64 Peacock?

Speaker 74 Give it up for Peacock.

Speaker 31 Do you want to know what else I watch?

Speaker 113 This is is not on Peacock, but I watched.

Speaker 84 You might love this, actually. Tell me.

Speaker 127 Jerry Springer.

Speaker 41 Oh, I started it.

Speaker 179 There's a two, two episodes.

Speaker 163 That guy, not Jerry, but that producer who came in.

Speaker 116 I mean, that actually has major implications on the culture.

Speaker 31 Like, it made trash populist.

Speaker 87 Or it revealed the appetite that people would have for tabloid-y, sensational types of stuff.

Speaker 37 And it's like Roman Coliseum shit.

Speaker 29 It's like primal.

Speaker 98 It's this thing that like human beings will respond to.

Speaker 144 Yeah. That ultimately opens the door to Trump.

Speaker 70 And it all started with that Kick a K episode.

Speaker 193 Insane.

Speaker 3 And also, I actually didn't know that one of the episodes led to a horrific murder.

Speaker 171 Right.

Speaker 145 And keep watching it because by the end of the second episode, you're like sad.

Speaker 113 But I do think there's something about that show that is like important and speaks to the culture and why we're at where we're at.

Speaker 164 I always viewed Springer as like,

Speaker 135 I mean, obviously it's like a distressing, troublesome, I'll say the word, even though I'm slightly rolling my eyes, like problematic show.

Speaker 96 But I was always comforted by Jerry Springer knew

Speaker 62 how to like ring it in at the end and be like, this was the message of this episode and take care of yourselves and each other.

Speaker 174 Love each other.

Speaker 77 That way to smooth it over at the end.

Speaker 36 I mean, it's, but it, yeah, it's an important alleviating thing that he understood he had to do at the end of each.

Speaker 135 And that was his catchphrase when he was a news anchor.

Speaker 136 Did not realize he was a professor, right? He was like a professor.

Speaker 154 He's a fascinating professor.

Speaker 165 He was

Speaker 203 a mayor.

Speaker 58 He was the mayor of, oh my God, yeah, of that, of that town.

Speaker 92 Right.

Speaker 148 Anyway, I don't know either, but he was like, he had a very interesting background.

Speaker 22 And then Cincinnati, I think.

Speaker 31 Right, or something like that.

Speaker 151 But then he became a host of a daytime show.

Speaker 108 And it's funny because I don't know if you've gotten to this point, but they show like the first or second episode of his show.

Speaker 188 And it was literally like so milk.

Speaker 7 It was like what everyone else was doing.

Speaker 99 Like Phil Donahue.

Speaker 84 And they were like literally like number 18 of 19 shows in daytime.

Speaker 108 And they were like, okay, we need to drastically change this.

Speaker 220 Let's try this other flavor of programming. And then obviously the rest is history.

Speaker 123 But fascinating.

Speaker 106 But Springer was like a huge part of my day when I would like, when I would like, because we didn't have cable, as I say.

Speaker 128 and so huge part of my day growing up when i would like stay homesick wow because they would just play it back to back and your parents didn't come in and were like turn this off by the time they got home it was just oh right right right at home or my sister but like you know but we wouldn't be sick at the same time i would just like be sitting at home in the summers especially i would just like be at home watching springer and then it would go from springer to bob ross like what a fucking oh wow

Speaker 77 i could never get anything past my parents like

Speaker 224 it was and then randomly they gave me a TV in my room

Speaker 31 in high school.

Speaker 154 And I was like, okay, this is a wild swing left because I was just watching, like, remember when E, you don't remember because you didn't have cable, but E would show Howard Stern.

Speaker 95 Oh, sure.

Speaker 119 This is like the era of Anna Nicole Smith and like Howard Stern, like being on E.

Speaker 112 And so I watched so much garbage and trash at the time, how I filed it away in my brain.

Speaker 76 Now I love Howard Stern because he's rebranded, but it was just so funny.

Speaker 154 I was a sheltered person in terms, like like they would never, ever allow me to watch South Park.

Speaker 160 Oh, sure, sure.

Speaker 140 To the point where I started to be afraid of the show.

Speaker 15 Oh, like I had like, it was like a trauma.

Speaker 117 It was like a trigger whenever it was on. My cousins would watch it.

Speaker 168 And I would be like, I can't watch this.

Speaker 196 But then, were you, were you ever, have you ever been a South Park guy?

Speaker 207 I should honestly get into it now.

Speaker 31 It's pretty because I love the movie and I love Trey Parker and Matt Stone.

Speaker 131 I know. The movie is amazing.

Speaker 62 And also, there are some episodes of South Park that are like

Speaker 73 Just pure, brilliant comedy. Yeah.

Speaker 145 But at the time, because it was like, you know, the things that they said, and like, of course, the Kenny dying of it all, my parents were just like, no, you can't watch that.

Speaker 101 Did you ever watch the

Speaker 129 episode where they have the counter at the bottom of the screen for how many times they say fuck?

Speaker 18 No.

Speaker 99 That's an amazing episode because it just goes somewhere brilliant.

Speaker 245 Do you ever watch the Vagicil episode?

Speaker 112 No, I've not seen any of it.

Speaker 69 Where Cartman

Speaker 174 Cartman

Speaker 129 becomes like a better runner.

Speaker 31 No, he becomes like.

Speaker 41 Is Cartman big for you?

Speaker 289 This is South Park for me.

Speaker 131 Was I was in the third grade in Canada and me and my friends, I mean, somehow these, like, I was able to watch South Park episodes of South Park at home.

Speaker 134 And my parents were like, what is this?

Speaker 75 Oh, whatever.

Speaker 212 Like, they couldn't totally understand why it was vulgar.

Speaker 97 Right.

Speaker 97 Like a dialogue level.

Speaker 31 Like, there's vulgar things.

Speaker 98 But then,

Speaker 137 My friends and I in the third grade, like these like French Canadian, middle class, working-class kids, like I guess their parents loved South Park too or something.

Speaker 212 And they would watch South Park at home. And then

Speaker 163 we just all thought we were the South Park kids because we were like in a cold town.

Speaker 64 Yeah.

Speaker 69 Like bundled up.

Speaker 77 There is like a weird one-to-one there.

Speaker 72 Yeah.

Speaker 51 There was like this like fat kid and he was like, I'm Cartman.

Speaker 29 And then we, we all loved it so much.

Speaker 135 And then when I had to move, when I told everyone I was moving to Colorado, they were like, oh my God, you're going to be

Speaker 132 going to South Park. And it was this huge.

Speaker 77 And so we're going down to South Park.

Speaker 83 So then going to Colorado with South Park on the brain, it was just like the only thing that made like the move to Colorado was so complicated by like Jean Bonnie Ramsey and Columbine.

Speaker 212 And then, but then South Park was this other like contour to it where it's like, but at least it's like, it's, it's where all these weird things happen.

Speaker 69 And that is true.

Speaker 74 Like, Colorado is a weird place.

Speaker 212 Like, it has all of like the bizarre shit that would go down in Florida, but with like this like hippie-dippy counterweight to it.

Speaker 51 I fucking love South Park so much, and we need to watch some classic episodes.

Speaker 212 And the movie, one of Sondheim's favorite musicals.

Speaker 248 Really? He said that?

Speaker 58 I feel like we've talked about this on the podcast.

Speaker 34 I probably

Speaker 51 on the record, he's like, that is one of the best musicals, one of the best movie musicals ever.

Speaker 209 I mean, I'll never forget.

Speaker 224 I actually did.

Speaker 113 Well, I have seen that movie many times because I just, I don't know, for some reason I've seen the movie a bunch. Like, and I

Speaker 94 downloaded a lot of this.

Speaker 169 I'm like, shut your fucking face,

Speaker 26 like I used to listen to that all the time but also blame Canada blame Canada

Speaker 76 at the Oscars I remember it being unforgettable

Speaker 70 and it's also because the the actress who played Kyle's mom

Speaker 24 soon after the South Park movie came out took her own life whoa there's a lot of like South Park is really

Speaker 164 I mean, God, it's still going. Like, it's such an important

Speaker 136 piece of culture, literally.

Speaker 128 Yeah.

Speaker 72 And like, it's so funny that we haven't talked about this before on the show.

Speaker 150 I think it's because it's a weird blind spot for me. Yeah.

Speaker 202 My parents, my parents, they weren't helicopter-y, but they were just sensitive to, like, I couldn't watch MTV and I could not watch South Park.

Speaker 246 Uh-huh.

Speaker 31 Hard no. Yeah.

Speaker 148 And it literally, it weirdly made me fill those spaces in with other things.

Speaker 31 That's interesting.

Speaker 170 That I think does inform the, the, my culture.

Speaker 131 TH1, which was the MTV.

Speaker 231 And then what's the standard for South Park, you think?

Speaker 43 Like, The Simpsons, at least?

Speaker 40 But I'm not even a Simpsons kid.

Speaker 56 kid. Like, what was it?

Speaker 175 Honestly, I watched a lot of like, um,

Speaker 15 I watched a lot of Nickelodeon. Yeah.

Speaker 203 I watched a lot of Nickelodeon and Disney Channel.

Speaker 91 Yes.

Speaker 229 Like, I was, it's interesting to see those things get re-litigated because you're like, oh,

Speaker 227 like, you're like, absolutely, this is crazy.

Speaker 40 Right, right, right.

Speaker 113 It's interesting. Like, children's programming at the time.

Speaker 187 And you know what? I'll say about South Park, at least they weren't pretending to be for kids.

Speaker 156 Totally.

Speaker 140 Like, a lot of this other shit that was like explicitly marketed to kids and was all fucked up and really endangering the people, the kids that were performing this stuff.

Speaker 223 Like at least that weren't like, it wasn't like nefarious.

Speaker 175 Like South Park was what it was.

Speaker 204 It never pretended to not be.

Speaker 178 Totally.

Speaker 106 I know there's like a, there's like a genius on that.

Speaker 99 There's a purity to that of intention. And

Speaker 158 to bring it back to Peacock, great documentary on Peacock.

Speaker 212 came out already.

Speaker 137 I thought it was new, but it already apparently came out a couple of years ago called I Love You, You Hate Me about Barney.

Speaker 24 Oh, and about the culture of Barney bashing that I didn't really fully know about, but I remember growing up, like, oh, it was like cool to hate Barney.

Speaker 211 It was like punk rocks.

Speaker 170 Well, because it was so popular.

Speaker 72 But not only that, but because it's the one of the actors from Blues Clues, they interview him, and he, his theory is the reason there was such a crazy collective anger towards Barney was that

Speaker 73 it was targeted towards three-year-olds specifically, right?

Speaker 130 And like the creator of Barney was this mother who wanted a show for her son.

Speaker 98 Oh, I didn't know.

Speaker 83 And it came in the form of Barney because he was obsessed with dinosaurs.

Speaker 61 And I mean, Barney is pure,

Speaker 190 I love you.

Speaker 95 You can do anything.

Speaker 196 We love each other.

Speaker 230 It's the messaging is so smooth-brained, and it's there's no nuance to it.

Speaker 172 And the guy who's in Blue Schluz was like, all great children's programming has broken people and broken characters in it.

Speaker 72 Like Sesame Street, like Burton Ernst, especially Burt, broken person.

Speaker 157 Even Oscar the Grouch. Oh, yeah, dude.

Speaker 60 Broke.

Speaker 178 Like, there are these complex emotional

Speaker 79 cookie is a drug addict.

Speaker 180 Cookie is a drug addict, like, but not no, though.

Speaker 137 Like, like, children's programming, when it's done well and it's for like a large age demographic, it is like these emotionally complex characters.

Speaker 69 Yeah, that's a really interesting point.

Speaker 136 And like, same with Big Bird, it's like a little bit depressed.

Speaker 197 It's like, yeah, he is depressed.

Speaker 29 There's, there are these like layers to it.

Speaker 69 Barney was clean up.

Speaker 83 pure clean up pure like

Speaker 212 everything is happy and so that drives anyone outside of that age demo insane because they're like that's not how the world is

Speaker 74 and a lot of parents were jealous that their kids loved barney more than them

Speaker 36 so then it began this entire culture around

Speaker 231 Fuck Barney and like burning Barney effigies.

Speaker 290 Like it's, it was a whole thing in the 90s.

Speaker 69 Whoa. This is a great documentary.

Speaker 75 I have to watch it. You have to watch it.
I love it.

Speaker 89 We also have to do our own documentary on the Barney to Amelia Perez pipeline for Selena Gomez.

Speaker 40 Yes.

Speaker 187 That is Selena's autobiography.

Speaker 69 And Demi. Demi Lovato was.

Speaker 42 No, was it Demi Lovato?

Speaker 76 It was Demi Lovato. Yes.

Speaker 78 I think it's really interesting that we're going to, we actually are writing a film about the Barney to Amelia Perez.

Speaker 109 About the Barney to Amelia Perez pipeline.

Speaker 15 Yes.

Speaker 44 And how you get from one to the other.

Speaker 125 I do think Carlos Sofia Gascon is incredible.

Speaker 31 Extremely versatile performance.

Speaker 40 Yes. And demanding performance.

Speaker 105 I love it.

Speaker 51 I think she did a cover recently for a magazine where it was like the movie has inspired a lot of love and hate.

Speaker 139 Carlos Sophia Gascon thrives on both.

Speaker 218 Ooh.

Speaker 25 I was like, that's kind of chic.

Speaker 153 Yeah, the takes have been very strong on that movie.

Speaker 91 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 44 True.

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Speaker 77 Shall we do I Don't Think So Honey?

Speaker 106 Let's do I Don't Think So Honey.

Speaker 100 Here we go. First, I Don't Think So Honey of the new year.

Speaker 94 One thing that hasn't changed is what I Don't Think So Honey is.

Speaker 80 It's a one minute segment where we take 60 seconds, which actually is a minute if you think about it, even for more than one second, which is just 1 60th of a minute,

Speaker 40 where we rant rant and rave against something in pop culture that we are not jamming on.

Speaker 113 And I actually, I think I want to put something to bed right here on the episode.

Speaker 31 Okay. Here we go.

Speaker 105 This is Matt Rogers putting something to bed in his, I don't think so, honey, and his time starts now.

Speaker 248 I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 186 Any more jokes about holding space?

Speaker 31 We're not sure. It's a new year.

Speaker 26 We've turned the page.

Speaker 147 That's turned the page.

Speaker 151 Literally, Nikki Glazer tore up those golden globes.

Speaker 190 We're so proud of you.

Speaker 145 She did the last holding space joke.

Speaker 214 you're not gonna beat her you can't beat that you can't beat tonight we celebrate movies and hold space for television that is the last holding space joke and now it's becoming a thing where it's like people are like we're holding space and that's taking the space of a joke just saying holding space is not a joke so we need to really think about do we want to continue this narrative the answer has to be no All respect to everyone involved.

Speaker 183 It was a fun moment. Oh, so fun.

Speaker 46 But holding space jokes are done.

Speaker 31 15 seconds.

Speaker 254 We are no longer holding space for them.

Speaker 246 Even that was too much. No, I know.

Speaker 29 You were just using it in a sentence.

Speaker 77 No, I don't think so, honey, anymore.

Speaker 142 Humor

Speaker 209 about this because it actually isn't jokes.

Speaker 31 It's humor.

Speaker 121 And I don't think so, honey, humor over jokes, hard jokes only.

Speaker 88 Go, Nikki.

Speaker 106 And that's one minute.

Speaker 69 You put it to bed.

Speaker 101 It's done.

Speaker 106 It's done.

Speaker 69 You lowered the casket.

Speaker 166 Nikki Glazer, we're so proud of you.

Speaker 137 We're so proud of you, girl.

Speaker 41 Congrats on your gig ongoing because they will have you.

Speaker 163 Yeah, you're coming back because that's how it works.

Speaker 65 Because best case scenario, if you kill at hosting an award show, they go, do it again.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 243 And that is kind of great, but also torture.

Speaker 89 Shout out Matt Whitaker wrote on the show.

Speaker 219 Just so great.

Speaker 87 And I have to say, my favorite bit of the whole thing was popular.

Speaker 211 And that was from the brain of Matt Whitaker.

Speaker 187 I love popular. I love what it started.

Speaker 108 I love that the bit was.

Speaker 69 Wait.

Speaker 56 This sucks.

Speaker 92 What do you mean this sucks?

Speaker 164 But she sounded good.

Speaker 28 She rocks.

Speaker 69 Nikki.

Speaker 207 You don't just see Taylor Swift 22 times.

Speaker 77 Was it 22? It was 22.

Speaker 114 You don't just see Taylor that many times and don't have your shit together for your Eras moment.

Speaker 134 And I just love the way Nikki,

Speaker 139 let's say, justifies going to see the Earth store 22 times.

Speaker 31 She's like, I don't have a kid.

Speaker 37 I don't go to nice restaurants.

Speaker 61 I don't buy handbags or luxury clothes.

Speaker 137 I go to Eras.

Speaker 104 I go to, this is how I choose to spend my money.

Speaker 128 I went 60.

Speaker 196 Go off to you, my sister.

Speaker 65 Go and 60.

Speaker 212 Spend your money however you want to make yourself happy.

Speaker 76 And I will continue to do that.

Speaker 29 As long as other people are not suffering because of that, you're fine.

Speaker 83 If you're not gambling your life away, if you're not taking your money for your child partner, whatever, do whatever you want with it.

Speaker 29 I took myself to Japan. Which, you know, and I have no fucking regrets.

Speaker 7 No, and nor should you.

Speaker 26 Nor should you ever.

Speaker 40 Not Not ever.

Speaker 31 Not ever. And I hope the same is true.

Speaker 53 After you do this, I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 196 I have a kind of specific one, but I think we all have experienced this. And I hope, I hope this is legible.

Speaker 162 And that's a bad sign, right?

Speaker 174 I hope this reads.

Speaker 4 I think you said, I think this is something we've all experienced, and you hope it's legible.

Speaker 56 Yep.

Speaker 215 I know you're going to do it.

Speaker 168 This is Boen Yanks.

Speaker 54 I don't think so, honey, as time starts now.

Speaker 70 I don't think so, honey, Instagram or TikTok ads that are staged as like a fake podcast.

Speaker 158 Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 198 Do you know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 36 Where it's like two people and it might be like, I just tried this new creatine gummy.

Speaker 208 What's it called? It's, it's so clearly staged.

Speaker 196 It's so clearly actors.

Speaker 26 I don't like that.

Speaker 43 It's like, I'm learning a new language with this.

Speaker 81 I just, first of all, I don't like podcasts being used as advertising material, period.

Speaker 83 Believe it or not, Matt and I have been doing this.

Speaker 174 for a long time.

Speaker 179 30 seconds.

Speaker 191 It's so funny to be, it's an interesting time in podcasting right now because I would not say you and I are like podcasters in the way that like podcasters denote something now we're not like in the manosphere we are not quite in like

Speaker 81 i don't know we're like not quite like a show biz podcast but we're not quite like a pop culture comedy podcast anymore

Speaker 277 we defy categorization and i don't like it when people use our form and medium to create to try to sell and shill for bullshit and that's one minute the amount of ads we have to do after this is so crazy that's different that's so that we can keep the lights on for us yeah if if someone is aping our

Speaker 74 to fake like an organic conversation about how much they love to use like

Speaker 238 a uv phone sanitizer that's weird to me my god all those words but you know what i mean i do that that's what that's well i just don't like anything fake and and anyway it's like stupid It's crazy.

Speaker 69 This is the thing.

Speaker 133 And I know for a fact that people are experiencing this on their scrolls.

Speaker 134 I'm like,

Speaker 157 this is a weird fucking thing.

Speaker 200 Why are we pretending that this is a podcast?

Speaker 19 Well, probably also, like, who knows if it even is actual human beings doing it.

Speaker 31 Like,

Speaker 119 the AI.

Speaker 214 We want to say thank you to

Speaker 206 whoever it was that voted for us to be nomineed for the iHeart podcast of the year.

Speaker 229 Thank you so much.

Speaker 89 Hopefully, we might win a second time.

Speaker 215 We might be like Hilary Swank.

Speaker 91 Oh, my God.

Speaker 31 Think about that. Meryl.

Speaker 31 Well,

Speaker 80 I hope that people stop faking.

Speaker 29 I really hope people. Do you have any resolutions?

Speaker 173 I think we're over. We're too old.

Speaker 144 Do I have any resolutions? Honestly, my resolution,

Speaker 207 I think I had one and then I was like, it's always like pretty vague.

Speaker 60 It's like, care less what people think.

Speaker 173 Sure.

Speaker 100 I think I need to keep doing what I'm doing.

Speaker 89 Keep doing what you're doing. That's my resolution.

Speaker 164 Don't change a thing.

Speaker 51 I wouldn't change change a thing.

Speaker 113 Neither would I for you.

Speaker 29 Honey, my resolution is my year-long project is to make this playlist

Speaker 134 that I just want to have on while I'm cooking, cleaning, sewing.

Speaker 152 A life playlist.

Speaker 29 It's not a life. It's called my nighttime playlist.

Speaker 71 And it's like my wind-down, like good because I was just in every bar in Japan I was at, and I didn't go to that many, but there was just like, there were so many nights where I would just be like in like just the most beautifully decorated place, and the vibes were just sublime the music was like an elifitzgerald song or something i was just like oh i need to like curated i need to but i need to like

Speaker 81 draw this out for my own life i need like

Speaker 232 fun international music not that elephant's drill is international you know what i mean like it was just like i just want like music to live to just literally

Speaker 58 i think

Speaker 31 it sounds so silly when you i think there is a definish chance that you will create this.

Speaker 52 I think there is a definish chance.

Speaker 18 We didn't name this episode.

Speaker 61 That's kind of beautiful. What if

Speaker 135 untitled?

Speaker 210 No.

Speaker 210 Untitled.

Speaker 22 Fine. What do we do?

Speaker 84 What do we call it?

Speaker 24 Throwing neck.

Speaker 97 This is episode one.

Speaker 158 Throwing neck our ninth year.

Speaker 4 Wow.

Speaker 178 As a podcast.

Speaker 220 2016 17 18 19 20 1 2 3 4 yeah this

Speaker 29 five well i mean like if you but it's it has not been a full decade like it'll be a decade when we hit 2026 march 2026.

Speaker 5 we have to throw a big party for our 10-year anniversary

Speaker 31 where should we have it hooters i think there is a definite chance that we will have it at hooters oh my god

Speaker 22 that'll be amazing that'll be amazing the times square hooters is there one i don't know anymore. There's one in Toronto.
We can do that.

Speaker 31 Oh, we could do that. Yeah.

Speaker 24 That's a good one.

Speaker 15 I think there is a definition.

Speaker 178 Should we call it definite? Should we call this episode definite chance?

Speaker 69 Or throwing neck?

Speaker 187 People will love to see that.

Speaker 195 Oh.

Speaker 153 You want me to throw neck?

Speaker 70 You want me to throw neck?

Speaker 209 And before anyone jumps on our case, we've given credit to Delta Work a million times for popularizing the phrase.

Speaker 228 And we need Delta Work on the podcast.

Speaker 211 We need Delta Work on the podcast now.

Speaker 194 We need Delta Work, Demi Moore.

Speaker 157 That's it.

Speaker 158 And Cookie Monster.

Speaker 211 And Cookie Monster.

Speaker 140 Look for those.

Speaker 69 Hmm.

Speaker 61 I think that's a good. That's a resolution.

Speaker 31 Look for the heroes.

Speaker 74 Look for the helpers.

Speaker 58 Look for the helpers.

Speaker 87 We end every episode with a song.

Speaker 31 Many years I have waited for a gift like yours to appear.

Speaker 188 Well, I predict the wizard may make you his

Speaker 55 magic grandfather.

Speaker 103 My dear, my dear,

Speaker 167 I'll write at once to the wizard.

Speaker 31 Tell him of you in advance.

Speaker 237 With a talent like yours, there is a definite chance.

Speaker 190 If you work like you sh as you should,

Speaker 55 you'll be making

Speaker 55 good.

Speaker 88 It is one of the great moments

Speaker 40 of culture.

Speaker 52 Bye.

Speaker 288 Lost Culture Reads. This is the production by Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and iHeart Radio Podcasts.

Speaker 187 Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang.

Speaker 267 Executive and produced by Anna Hosnier and Hans Sani.

Speaker 288 Produced by Becca Ramos. Edited and mixed by Doug Babe and Monique Labord.

Speaker 68 And our music is by Henry Kabirski.

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Speaker 244 There's pressure systems moving in Bo in the form of cuffing season.

Speaker 275 Potential heavy clouds of nostalgia around the necks, windstorms from a current situation ship, and light drivels of you up, techs, are incoming.

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