“Great Americans” (w/ Tina Fey) - Bowen’s Pick for Best of 2024

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Speaker 85 Hello, it's Bowen. I, for my episode, had to choose Great Americans with Tina Fey for our year-end roundup.

Speaker 85 For reasons that go without saying, this was recorded the day after Iowa Deborah's episode of SNL that she hosted, and that's context for what we talk about up top in terms of that night feeling like a bellhouse night in terms of us being with all of our friends and celebrating each other and celebrating IO.

Speaker 89 And then it was so nice to have the next day be a debrief with the one and only Tina Fey herself to hear her perspective on this.

Speaker 85 She's obviously someone we look up to and also someone who, you know, came up with her coterie of people in comedy in Chicago and New York.

Speaker 85 And of course, it all culminates in, gosh, the number one single greatest I don't think so honey of all time.

Speaker 85 Of course, it's I don't think so honey, Bo and Yang for sharing his real opinions on movies on this podcast.

Speaker 85 It all ends with that famous line, authenticity is dangerous and expensive, a lesson that I have learned over and over again this year, as I'm sure you have as well.

Speaker 29 It's a pretty universal axiom at this point.

Speaker 85 It applies to all of us, but this was so much fun.

Speaker 92 We got to talk theme parks.

Speaker 44 We got to talk old TV and everything

Speaker 85 great about Tina and everything great about the culture.

Speaker 87 She really is the North Star for us.

Speaker 45 And it was so, so, so fun to have her on.

Speaker 85 She was so good on this episode that even Vanity Fair named her on Think So Honey as one of the best performances of 2024.

Speaker 46 We couldn't agree more. Here it is.

Speaker 85 Great Americans with Tina Fey.

Speaker 93 Look, man.

Speaker 94 Oh, I see. My eye.
Oh, my.

Speaker 95 Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes, goodness.
Wow.

Speaker 96 Las Cultoristas.

Speaker 97 Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling.

Speaker 98 Back in tactile position.

Speaker 105 Talk to us about the mozzarella stick numbers that you were working so i don't know why this was the answer to how i should end my night but i get home it's 3 30 in the morning i get stoned and order mozzarella sticks bad because i know i have to wake up at let's say 10 to sort of mentally prepare and you know cleanse myself, really physically prepare for the podcast today.

Speaker 114 And last night I'm ordering my mozzarella sticks and I see it says six mozzarella sticks. And in my mind, that's not enough.

Speaker 98 And then this morning, when everything sort of settles, you think, you didn't need one.

Speaker 101 That's the devil's math

Speaker 118 with mozzarella sticks.

Speaker 2 But I feel six feels like nothing, right?

Speaker 119 I think six is more than enough.

Speaker 90 Well, yeah.

Speaker 9 I order mozzarella sticks.

Speaker 121 This is the last time I ordered mozzarella sticks was at Alma Draft House.

Speaker 122 What? Watching the boy and

Speaker 117 the boy and the heron.

Speaker 86 And I had to leave in the middle because of a work call.

Speaker 98 Of a work call? Is that what you call violence shit?

Speaker 90 It was not.

Speaker 54 What?

Speaker 103 Because I know you.

Speaker 106 The second we both went in here today, we both ran into the bathroom and I know what that was.

Speaker 124 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, threw a statement.

Speaker 125 It was the work call.

Speaker 111 Okay.

Speaker 90 This is all to say I got six and I only finished four.

Speaker 20 That's a huge brag and an insult to me.

Speaker 10 No.

Speaker 104 It was ravenous last night for them.

Speaker 127 But last night was very celebratory.

Speaker 129 It really was.

Speaker 20 It's very nice.

Speaker 130 Iot did great.

Speaker 22 What an unbelievable performance she had.

Speaker 62 Very, very fun.

Speaker 132 I mean, I think about between 12 and 15 people said this, and it just kind of kept getting kicked around.

Speaker 133 But this is like the bellhouse.

Speaker 134 This is like the bellhouse.

Speaker 113 But it really was.

Speaker 135 It felt like a celebration.

Speaker 136 was very nice we made it proud of her now

Speaker 112 what was your review of the countess cabaret i'm still i still have the shakes not because necessarily because of the talent but she was great the countess luanne as 54 below was she certainly has star quality but there's something that happens where she steps on stage and sort of everyone looks at each other and you go we're getting blacked out We're all drinking so much tonight.

Speaker 142 I asked you, was it like going to the Disney World character breakfast?

Speaker 84 It was not unlike that it was like seeing goofy come out while you're eating a mickey shaped pancake let's say mini mouse let's be kind mini

Speaker 121 goofy comes out okay with the counter no oh no no no that's that in he's gonna want you to tell me that's not what i was saying lou if you're watching if you're looking you're just saying lou had the impact of goofy yes yeah yeah yeah not not anything to do with the air gets sucked out right 100 like when goofy walks in the room it's like nicole kidman in the chanel number five commercial by baz luhrman it's just like you know you know the commercial i'm talking about i think so Speaking of fragrances, I want you to smell me right here and tell me what it is.

Speaker 105 Okay, go.

Speaker 123 You know what this is.

Speaker 148 Biredo. No, it's axe.

Speaker 125 Oh, so I have yesterday.

Speaker 103 I said to Bowen, I'm like, I have no deodorant in New York. I don't know what happened.

Speaker 110 My New York apartment has no deodorant.

Speaker 150 And my mother was like, I want to get you something for Christmas.

Speaker 105 I said, don't. I don't want anything.

Speaker 123 She goes, okay, I'll get you a bunch of little small things.

Speaker 151 10 axe deodorants, which is both a trigger to like high school locker room and also quite out out of fashion.

Speaker 126 But that is like the

Speaker 152 timeless, enduring thing about suburban life is that you're never more than a half a mile away from it.

Speaker 108 From an axe body spray, especially from Long Island, that's like a big culture, an axe body spray.

Speaker 140 Yes.

Speaker 105 And so I do, I am walking around and it's sort of like a little bit of heaven, a little bit of hell.

Speaker 107 I am a little triggered, but also I it's horny.

Speaker 90 It's horny.

Speaker 106 Well, that's why I wanted you to smell me, to get you horned up for the episode.

Speaker 84 Speaking of getting horned up.

Speaker 155 Speaking of horny.

Speaker 142 Speaking of horny, I think everyone's horny for,

Speaker 88 well, first of all,

Speaker 45 Restless Leg Tour.

Speaker 54 We're talking 11 days at the beacon?

Speaker 125 11 days at the beacon?

Speaker 122 11 nights at the beacon.

Speaker 158 Well, I mean, yeah,

Speaker 132 my surprise.

Speaker 120 I'm like, well, of course.

Speaker 159 Well, of course.

Speaker 160 And it's the beacon.

Speaker 84 And so if you're in New York, I think they're all sold out, but kind of elbow your way in.

Speaker 161 Are you going to sign the wall?

Speaker 154 I hope so.

Speaker 162 Yes.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 163 And I mean, obviously, if you you guys want to come oh when is it well i guess it's 11th 7th to the 19th 19th thank you for doing the math real quick i did the math and 18th 18th yeah okay wait now we have to officially bring her in because that's okay that can't be the entrance hold on hold on it was really that was so weak no no not weak um girls 5 have us coming back on netflix okay thanks god because i had been wondering about that oh yeah it's coming oh

Speaker 152 March is going to be a big month

Speaker 88 for humanity.

Speaker 164 And Mean Girls the musical, of course, the movie.

Speaker 152 Oh, we're not calling it the musical.

Speaker 165 No, we're calling it Mean Girls 2024.

Speaker 46 We're calling it Mean Girls the musical music.

Speaker 84 Which I texted you about it.

Speaker 166 I said 10 times, I said it's called Mean Girls.

Speaker 120 Mean Girls 2024.

Speaker 101 Mean Girls Eighth Note in the Negative Space Where the A is.

Speaker 167 Do you know what's funny?

Speaker 112 This person created and starved

Speaker 103 our favorite movie and our favorite show.

Speaker 108 Yeah.

Speaker 168 And I'm not even talking about Saturday Night Live, which also is in the top two of favorite shows.

Speaker 120 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 117 Oh, for sure.

Speaker 104 Can you imagine just go back in time and tell us in 2016 when we started this that Tina Fay is going to be on the podcast?

Speaker 127 So Tina Fay is going to be on the podcast.

Speaker 170 And you know what I I thought in the shower this morning?

Speaker 87 I thought. What did you think in the shower?

Speaker 124 Where you do your best?

Speaker 4 This is where I, this is I thought Worldwide Pants took down all of the Tina Fey on Letterman interviews and those were my fucking comfort watches in college.

Speaker 121 Seth told you though that you could find it somewhere else.

Speaker 170 I think Seth lied.

Speaker 1 Liar. Why'd they take them down?

Speaker 31 I think I think Letterman wants to protect his content.

Speaker 157 I don't know.

Speaker 171 Oh, I see.

Speaker 137 I can't possibly begin to understand. And then also,

Speaker 170 I mean, so many things.

Speaker 92 You love her.

Speaker 4 You really love this person so much, don't you?

Speaker 8 I'm talking to you, the Royal You.

Speaker 121 The Royal You.

Speaker 90 Everyone, welcome.

Speaker 93 Tina Faye.

Speaker 97 Hello, gentlemen. Hello.

Speaker 125 And they applauded the crew.

Speaker 150 By the way, this episode is directed by Christopher Nolan.

Speaker 108 It's Oppenheimer, the film.

Speaker 94 It's crazy.

Speaker 1 A lady needs a lot of lights.

Speaker 154 And the gentlemen need a lot of lights.

Speaker 28 And the gentleman need a lot of lights. Blow out the Countess Lou from my face.

Speaker 120 Please, please. Are you familiar with the Countess Lou?

Speaker 1 Yes, that is the original sort of Real Housewives New York era.

Speaker 175 That was my era.

Speaker 1 I once chased Countess Luann down the street on the Upper West Side because I was so, I was like, she's on the upper west side. And I chased her in front of that restaurant West that used to be there.

Speaker 1 And I was like, I were.

Speaker 177 And I basically was like, I was like, Countess.

Speaker 178 And I was like,

Speaker 1 I work at NBC too.

Speaker 141 I'm a Universal girl.

Speaker 1 And we also work for Universal.

Speaker 141 Yeah, we've brushed elbows at the upfronts.

Speaker 179 So wait, when you were watching Roni,

Speaker 150 like, were you, were you sort of, were you sort of like, I'm Bethany?

Speaker 106 Like, I'm like, what are you doing?

Speaker 182 Well, first of all, no, I'm not Bethany.

Speaker 97 No way. No way.

Speaker 125 Thank you.

Speaker 1 No, I used to watch the season one. I used to really love like season one.
You guys were probably in middle school because it was before nobody was aware. No one was like working the camera yet.

Speaker 1 Nobody was, and it was just really, I just wanted to see people's apartments. I get it.
I wanted to see their apartments and make judgments. And I didn't need them to be fighting about stuff.
No, no.

Speaker 1 I just wanted, and so who was it? Was, oh, you know who I was obsessed with at that time was Alex.

Speaker 97 McCord. Yeah, Alex.

Speaker 94 Oh, bless.

Speaker 107 And that was essentially, had the show gone in a different direction, which was we just watched these people live their crazy lives and it wasn't like as conflict driven, she would have been here.

Speaker 124 She would have been the show.

Speaker 173 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 101 But I think because people gravitated towards, you know, that's so funny, though, because

Speaker 142 I think architectural digest home tours have like scratched the itch or like taken over that little fascination we have of like people's homes.

Speaker 20 And like that's fully been supplanted.

Speaker 86 Right.

Speaker 1 And Zillow, just be like, just go on Zillow and look in apartments. Yeah.
100%. But I remember when

Speaker 1 she was redoing her Brooklyn townhouse and Jill Zarin came over and she's like, we're restoring this bannister. And she's like, honey, you don't have to save everything.
That's not a good bannister.

Speaker 1 And Jill's, Jill Zarin, oh my gosh, she is incredible.

Speaker 1 Yeah, who else was in that original?

Speaker 165 Ramona.

Speaker 120 Ramona.

Speaker 150 I just recently picked.

Speaker 107 For some reason, this was on. It was the.

Speaker 104 fashion show episode where Ramona walked with those crazy eyes.

Speaker 111 Yes.

Speaker 98 And Jill is just dragging and just like killing it in the front row.

Speaker 138 Communically.

Speaker 84 Communically.

Speaker 135 She was really on fire.

Speaker 125 Yeah.

Speaker 147 They kind of by like their second season.

Speaker 137 So this was not the phenomenon back then either, but it wasn't this thing where like they saw themselves for the first time on TV and then they got the work done.

Speaker 84 Yeah. Just like facially.

Speaker 1 Which happens to everyone. I mean

Speaker 1 you see yourself on TV and you go, oh no.

Speaker 162 Oh yeah. Breakdown.

Speaker 125 Oh no.

Speaker 1 What are we going to do about this?

Speaker 158 You're like, that's my face all the time. Yeah.

Speaker 147 People see my face as that.

Speaker 158 Yeah.

Speaker 75 Speaking of Universal, do you have any thoughts about this epic universe announcement?

Speaker 123 Yeah, because we know you're a Disney guy like us.

Speaker 1 Well, listen, I'm going to check it out. Yes.
My instinct, my gut instinct is, oh, honey, it's SNL Mad TV.

Speaker 93 That there's not

Speaker 1 the tastemaker at the core. You're right.
Defines the thing, right? And so Walt Disney is like,

Speaker 185 but I'll go.

Speaker 22 Yeah, yeah, you're going to be there.

Speaker 125 But I'll go.

Speaker 127 And we all love, we like Mad TV.

Speaker 1 And there are amazing things at Mad TV and amazing, hilarious people came out of Mad TV, but there just wasn't that unifying core

Speaker 163 taste. Totally.
Well, what if I told you this?

Speaker 150 So one of the announcements they said was that there's going to be a Frankenstein ride, and the star of the pre-show is Victoria Frankenstein, the great-granddaughter of Dr.

Speaker 184 Victor Frankston.

Speaker 1 But is that the Diablo Cody movie that's coming?

Speaker 101 I conflated those last week.

Speaker 28 Okay.

Speaker 106 A lot of girl bust Frankenstein's happening right now in the culture.

Speaker 86 We have to differentiate.

Speaker 1 Universal is trying to use that

Speaker 1 Universal Monsters catalog in fun ways, and I'm enjoying that.

Speaker 123 If you went in there and said, I'll play Dr.

Speaker 63 Victoria Frankenstein, you first of all, you'd immediately.

Speaker 1 17 shows a week.

Speaker 1 17 nine-minute shows a week.

Speaker 56 Performing every day.

Speaker 147 You wouldn't even do the pre-show?

Speaker 97 Would I do a queue? A queue.

Speaker 100 That's what we mean.

Speaker 1 The queue. A queue.
I mean, listen, in my heart of hearts, am I holding out for a Disney queue?

Speaker 1 Of course. Did I at one point try to volunteer? me and Amy Poehler to do Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton for the Hall of Presidents? And they were like, we're good.

Speaker 125 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Well, I only volunteered it to my friend who's like the guy. I didn't call it.

Speaker 184 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
To To Sam.

Speaker 141 Oh, by the way,

Speaker 97 Sam is a huge part of our

Speaker 125 channel, too.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. That makes me so happy.

Speaker 52 We went there.

Speaker 189 He loves you.

Speaker 108 I love him. I know.

Speaker 131 You can tell it's a special relationship.

Speaker 113 It really is.

Speaker 150 The Disney relationship is a special relationship, and that's actually Rollo Culture number 88.

Speaker 124 The Disney relationship is a special relationship.

Speaker 55 God bless Sam because Sam took us on Guard into the Galaxy Cosmic Rewind no less than seven times a week.

Speaker 1 Which is not medically advisable. No.

Speaker 100 Have you done it?

Speaker 1 Yes. It's beautiful.
But I'm an age where I can do it once. Also, you don't not see a lot of protein spills outside gardening.

Speaker 122 Oh, 100%.

Speaker 1 And just for clarity, that is vomit.

Speaker 106 Well, I've become that girl that's like, when the part of the ride that makes people nauseous comes up, I'm like, keep looking at the planet.

Speaker 56 Keep looking at the planet.

Speaker 191 Don't look to the side. You're going to fuck yourself up.

Speaker 124 And people don't really listen. You have your strategies.

Speaker 192 Yeah, I have my strategies.

Speaker 103 Well, I knew this about all of us that we shared this.

Speaker 86 And that's why I bring it up.

Speaker 167 And that's why.

Speaker 98 Now, correct me if I'm wrong.

Speaker 106 You've been on the avatar flight of passenger.

Speaker 124 Of course.

Speaker 131 Don't you think that should be him in the pre-show?

Speaker 121 100%.

Speaker 55 Just explaining what the Banshees are.

Speaker 166 You have the scientific gravitas to carry that pre-show through.

Speaker 193 I don't want us to fully raise a middle finger to that guy.

Speaker 132 It's not about him. This is about you.

Speaker 103 This is about what's best for you to be in that pre-show.

Speaker 1 He did find. The guy in that cue, and I don't know if this is a true story or a story that I made up for myself.
It's either way.

Speaker 1 But I feel like someone else was supposed to shoot that and then something went wrong and they were like, you have to do it.

Speaker 124 You made that up. Yeah, I think you made that up.

Speaker 1 Here's who'll know, Sam.

Speaker 125 Oh! 100%.

Speaker 63 Isn't it great to have a resource?

Speaker 150 Yes. The Disney relationship is a special relationship.
You go to that person for information like this.

Speaker 1 Can I tell you a deep Disney nerdery thing?

Speaker 194 100%.

Speaker 1 If it interests you, I could try to get you in on this.

Speaker 185 Let's do it.

Speaker 1 Okay, so have you ever done a voice at Pixar?

Speaker 140 A voice at Pixar? No.

Speaker 195 That's an oversight.

Speaker 1 That needs to happen.

Speaker 120 Okay, good.

Speaker 91 Sure. Okay.

Speaker 124 I think they're famously you have.

Speaker 1 I got lucky enough to do one, Ana.

Speaker 1 But so the guy, Pete Doctor, who runs Pixar's, super nice guy, legend, the kindest, loveliest man.

Speaker 1 And he invited me in on this super nerdy thing that sometimes they do where they have, I guess they used to do it in person, but during the pandemic, they were doing it over Zoom, where they just have literally like...

Speaker 1 Someone found a case of like weird B-roll building the park footage and they just play it. Like they haven't seen it.
And it's just like from like 1971, we're building the haunted mansion.

Speaker 1 And it's just like raw footage of nothing but like guys working. And then there's experts on who, like, there are all these imagineers who are talking about what it is.
And then they just drink.

Speaker 63 Really?

Speaker 1 And it's amazing. And because it happens on the West Coast, if you're watching it East Coast, it's like start, it's like two in the morning and you put your laptop in your bed.

Speaker 125 Wow.

Speaker 177 But it's so cool.

Speaker 106 That was my dream until I found out it was mostly science and math.

Speaker 121 And you had to actually

Speaker 197 have to work.

Speaker 1 Otherwise, the people fly off and then they just

Speaker 150 100%.

Speaker 103 I need to reconnect with Sam.

Speaker 126 Oh, Sam was lovely.

Speaker 18 Sam was really lovely.

Speaker 106 Sam is a tour guide at Disney who is an icon and a legend.

Speaker 104 And this is a big shout out to him.

Speaker 148 He's a great American.

Speaker 147 He's a great American.

Speaker 170 He's a great American.

Speaker 198 And then he said he was coming to see you and Amy.

Speaker 197 Was it? He came to D.C.

Speaker 1 He came like the first weekend.

Speaker 2 Have the shows been? What's that like?

Speaker 1 The shows are so fun. I do hope you'll come to the beacon.

Speaker 129 I want to come.

Speaker 1 Yeah, please come. Bowen's like,

Speaker 93 I'm coming.

Speaker 1 We have the best time. It's the two of us.
We take you on a little journey if we can. And we usually, we always have like one special friend show up.
And we go to these cities.

Speaker 1 People are so lovely to come see us. And then we stay at a nice hotel.
And I've said this before, but it is like we get up. Like the other night, I really did text Amy before a show.

Speaker 1 And I was like, right before we went out, she was on the other side of the stage. I was like, I'm getting excited about going to sleep.

Speaker 1 Because we do like, we have so much fun. Like, I'm also learning, like, I love the part where we do the show.

Speaker 1 And I was like, I guess some people go on tour because they want to party after the show or whatever, or they want to hook up. And I was like, I like the part where we do the show.

Speaker 1 And sometimes if we have a new thing and it works, I'm like, that works.

Speaker 125 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then I go home and I wash my face and I like stand in silence facing a wall.

Speaker 176 Like I'm like a little robot.

Speaker 135 Yeah, you leave, like you let yourself like charge.

Speaker 1 And I'm like satisfied.

Speaker 41 But I think this is just a function of like.

Speaker 5 time.

Speaker 137 And I will say for Matt and I, it's exceptional if we go out after the show.

Speaker 107 I mean, even yesterday, like, we were in Bowen's dressing room, like, and Bowen comes in. He's like, all right, so the after party, and we were all were, like, at the same time, like, we don't know.

Speaker 146 We don't, we don't know.

Speaker 201 It might be a quick drink.

Speaker 10 They were hungover from Lou Ann.

Speaker 116 So hung over.

Speaker 93 I had a name, but you guys.

Speaker 95 You guys look good.

Speaker 1 That's the difference. You still look really good.

Speaker 95 I put on concealer because you put on concealer today?

Speaker 87 Today, because the cameras, because I'm inches away from people.

Speaker 120 I love it.

Speaker 115 If I knew how to do my own concealer, I would do it.

Speaker 202 Is it as simple as dap, dup, doubt?

Speaker 121 Kind of. I don't know.

Speaker 1 i tried to do my makeup today and i probably will see this and be like oh it was like coming from a matinee of playing mrs love it

Speaker 1 i'm always trying to use you did i didn't get to oh my husband went i didn't get to see i was touring all right um i try to use that rare beauty blush which is great but it's so pigmented that then i do it and i'm like i'm either looking great or baby jane mrs love it's baby jane

Speaker 1 jane it's baby have you been have you checked in on the new feud i haven't watched it yet but i think i will i don't watch every part of the

Speaker 1 Murphyverse, but that one, I'm like, you might get me. I do feel, I was like, okay, the PR is over time because there's so many articles now about it.

Speaker 1 I was like, are we, this is really what we're, this is top of mind in every paper, but um, yeah, it does seem interesting.

Speaker 131 It is a lot of fun to watch just because of the like atmosphere of it all.

Speaker 190 I will say the entire story of it is just, well, you know, Truman Capote befriended these women and then he wrote an article and they never spoke to him again.

Speaker 105 And that's literally it.

Speaker 161 So I'm kind of interested to see how it's going to be a whole limited series because even in the first episode, you get it.

Speaker 183 Like they're not talking to him anymore.

Speaker 110 Right.

Speaker 200 But then I'm thinking like maybe every episode will be like a bottle-ish episode and be getting more into the specifics of who these women were, which is going to be great.

Speaker 200 I need more Callista though at this moment.

Speaker 164 I got three different line reads of Demi Moore calling Tom Hollander a faggot.

Speaker 90 A venomous.

Speaker 63 Yeah, she with her whole chest gets to say a slur and it's really fun to watch her just let it rip.

Speaker 109 They really let Demi go for it.

Speaker 146 Yeah.

Speaker 111 And she goes for it.

Speaker 177 Yes.

Speaker 206 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I loved it. Well, I do think that is, you know, that he is giving these actresses, like, he's making people's phones ring

Speaker 1 who maybe their phone wasn't ringing that much.

Speaker 28 Molly Ringwald. Yeah.

Speaker 207 Like her phone rang off the hook for this.

Speaker 1 And you know what Molly Ringwald has been doing in the meantime?

Speaker 100 Translating French books.

Speaker 1 Translating French books.

Speaker 208 Yes.

Speaker 145 Okay.

Speaker 126 Lie with me. It's a really sad, gay French novel.

Speaker 147 What? Yeah.

Speaker 1 She's really smart. She's very gay.

Speaker 121 I believe that.

Speaker 87 No, she's incredible. Yeah.

Speaker 143 She's a very, she's a great American.

Speaker 104 Well, one of my obsessions at this moment is Chloe Seveny now that this has all been happening.

Speaker 189 And apparently, Chloe simply broke down on the day where she had to shoot with Molly Ringwald because that was how much

Speaker 135 of it Chloe, who's like the coolest, like you would imagine is like very unbothered about the whole thing.

Speaker 209 Yep.

Speaker 190 Actually, in interviews, like I watched her on Jimmy the other night and she's very like, like y'all.

Speaker 138 You know what I mean?

Speaker 125 She's like everybody.

Speaker 100 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 210 She's like, I cry.

Speaker 98 I break down to Molly Ringwald just like you, me, and everyone else. Yeah.

Speaker 173 That's the shared, I guess, American experience.

Speaker 92 I'm kind of tying this back to a national sort of narrative.

Speaker 103 Well, she also was like, um, they did this thing because, like, you know, she's obviously a fashion icon, Chloe, and they were like looking back at all of her like iconic looks because she was like that.

Speaker 211 She really was.

Speaker 202 Yeah, she had nothing nice to say about anything she ever wore.

Speaker 107 She's like, oh, this, no, this, no, this, no.

Speaker 150 And I was like, maybe that's what makes her such an icon.

Speaker 1 But she also needs to keep looking.

Speaker 1 She didn't just find a uniform and stick with it. No, she was like never satisfied.

Speaker 125 Never.

Speaker 10 Have we found our uniforms?

Speaker 113 This is your uniform.

Speaker 169 Sure.

Speaker 84 Okay.

Speaker 87 This is a cream-colored,

Speaker 159 long-sleeved collar.

Speaker 97 Yours is like a strong base.

Speaker 1 Is it a knit? Is it a sweat? Is it a.

Speaker 117 It's a sweat. It's a

Speaker 196 sweatshirt, major. It's a sweatshirt.

Speaker 212 Yeah, it's good. So, but that's, I don't know if this is the uniform, though.

Speaker 126 It's the glasses. It's the.

Speaker 205 I mean, yeah. That's it.

Speaker 213 You've changed your glasses, though.

Speaker 31 In the last year, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 170 Yesterday, I had my contacts in for the show, and then they had to audition different pairs of glasses for the sketch, and then one of them had had an actual prescription in them.

Speaker 87 And I was like, oh, this one has a prescription in them.

Speaker 145 And then my dresser, Audrey, was like laughing.

Speaker 90 And she was like, Keenan earlier had the same thing happen to him.

Speaker 5 And he said, there's medicine in these.

Speaker 1 There's medicine.

Speaker 148 There's medicine.

Speaker 183 There's medicine in these glasses.

Speaker 5 By the way, Keenan Thompson, and I'm not, and I, and this is perfect, but this is truly like a.

Speaker 85 an apropos thing for me this week where he was up till 4 a.m with us shooting the sketch, just rallying everybody, keeping the morale up, like getting everybody

Speaker 172 out of like the 4 a.m.

Speaker 152 overnight shoot, like doldrums or whatever.

Speaker 192 Team captain vibes.

Speaker 121 What

Speaker 207 a treasure.

Speaker 1 And again, as we continue to make the list of great Americans, who do we have so far? We have Sam Loomis, Keenan, who was somebody in between.

Speaker 162 Molly Raymond.

Speaker 214 Sorry, Chloe. I mean,

Speaker 125 you're a great New Yorker. Yes.

Speaker 97 Amazing New Yorker.

Speaker 1 Top 20, top 20 New Yorkers.

Speaker 203 Absolutely.

Speaker 106 Up there with Hamilton.

Speaker 160 Up there with Hamilton.

Speaker 75 And do you have any thoughts about what she has said, I guess, in a Rolling Stone thing about how New York is all Lululemon and dogs?

Speaker 145 Too many dogs.

Speaker 204 But you're a reason, but as a recent dog owner.

Speaker 97 Yes.

Speaker 193 What do you make of this? Like, and as someone who's been in New York for a minute.

Speaker 125 Yes.

Speaker 1 Are there too many dogs?

Speaker 171 I haven't noticed anything.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of dogs.

Speaker 162 I mean, I don't go.

Speaker 182 I don't.

Speaker 215 go to like the dog park and that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 124 I have people that do.

Speaker 1 My dogs poop inside every single day.

Speaker 1 oh really oh they're they're a mess consistent places sometimes i get i'm like guys i'm i'm the queen of versailles you can't have this no and the dogs are like we haven't watched that no have you watched the series queen of versa no someone just told me about this i will watch it i did recently re-watch the original excellent movie fascinating incredible

Speaker 1 the series is a little bit of a cheapened version i'll say i'll say that on the record but because like all documentaries not all but a lot of great documentaries it's they started thinking it was going to be about one thing and then it changes.

Speaker 1 That usually is exciting.

Speaker 109 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes.

Speaker 131 What's that?

Speaker 107 Like the most famous example of that is probably the Jinx, right?

Speaker 120 Is the Jinx?

Speaker 1 The Jinx and also capturing the Friedmans.

Speaker 125 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 111 Which, have you ever seen that? I don't think I've ever seen it.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Well, first of all, because it's supposed to be about this guy who's a party clown, and then it turns out that his has his dark family history and they follow that.

Speaker 1 But you know that Silly Billy, the party clown, used to play the SNL holiday party up on 17.

Speaker 1 He would come and do like party clown stuff when I was a writer, when like Norm McDonald's son would be there that era so so i saw the doc and i was like that's oh my god that's silly billy oh no silly billy's family

Speaker 184 oh now

Speaker 1 oh no did the party he was not what do you mean he did the party there used to be a little you know what it was they would have when the tree lighting was happening yes yes yes they'd have bagels and stuff and people would bring their kids yeah oh they would bring your kids too people would bring you know why because lauren's kids were little that's why oh that's why there are no children about yeah it's just the bagels and it's like the meeting's happening like your sketch might get picked it it might not.

Speaker 29 It's like there's a lot of weird tension, but then the lighting is always a beautiful moment.

Speaker 195 It's a nice moment.

Speaker 1 But we were talking, you asked about New York and has, does New York have too many dogs? Probably. Does it have too much Lululemon? I mean, it's a mix in my neighborhood.

Speaker 1 It's a mix of like, there's a Lululemon and then everything else is vacant.

Speaker 96 Yeah.

Speaker 200 I guess I'm in LA most of the time where it's just all dogs.

Speaker 107 And so I just kind of accepted that me not having one is, I'm wrong.

Speaker 98 Right. And I should get one.

Speaker 107 I also like now I'm starting to feel a little guilty that I don't have one.

Speaker 123 Do you remember when I hosted that dog grooming competition?

Speaker 131 I hosted a dog grooming competition show show called Hot Dog, H-A-U-T-V.

Speaker 146 Excellent.

Speaker 123 And there was a day, there was a day where it was like rescue dog day.

Speaker 131 And they made me hold one of these dogs and give a direct to camera. Like,

Speaker 150 don't you want to save a life?

Speaker 129 Like, how would you feel to know that you could have saved a life when you didn't?

Speaker 184 And then I like handed the dog back and I was like, okay, see you guys later.

Speaker 174 And then I felt bad.

Speaker 141 It was like, we need to help. We need to help.

Speaker 1 The message, that was the help.

Speaker 206 Yeah.

Speaker 1 The PSA was the help. I did my thing.

Speaker 148 I can be fun uncle to these dogs, Yeah, actual children.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm ready for parenthood with the dogs, though.

Speaker 67 With the dogs. You want one?

Speaker 123 Well, he would be a great dog owner.

Speaker 184 I think the schedule stuff to do it with

Speaker 1 no one brings their dog to SNL.

Speaker 147 Oh, people bring their dogs to SNL.

Speaker 129 That would be a bridge too far.

Speaker 111 Oh, there's a couple people, but it's fine.

Speaker 1 They stay in the dressing room?

Speaker 3 They stay in the dressing room, or sometimes they'll bring him out.

Speaker 117 It's okay.

Speaker 94 That's a different world.

Speaker 84 It's a different.

Speaker 101 Yeah, would never have flown.

Speaker 155 No. No, no.

Speaker 182 I don't think so.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 147 Right now, I think post-pandemic, we're all like,

Speaker 143 we've had a rough couple years. Yeah,

Speaker 1 let everyone have what they need.

Speaker 94 Let's make sure everyone's fine.

Speaker 117 Yeah.

Speaker 41 Which I culturally must feel

Speaker 152 wild.

Speaker 142 I remember, but this just comes with starting out there.

Speaker 137 No matter who you are, no matter what job it is, if you start out there, it is always hard and it is always a cultural adjustment.

Speaker 143 But I just remember a time like pre-pandemic where I was just like, oh, I was terrified every day.

Speaker 20 Every day I was shaking.

Speaker 192 Just

Speaker 192 to be there.

Speaker 8 Just to be there.

Speaker 87 And yeah, I would have never thought to be there.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I went there.
I was 97 when I went there. And I mean, then I see with clarity now, like the 90s were so rough.

Speaker 125 Like

Speaker 125 rough, rough, rough.

Speaker 53 In what sense? What do you mean?

Speaker 1 Like, kindness was not in fashion. No.

Speaker 82 And it would get worse from there.

Speaker 1 And no, mental health was like,

Speaker 125 what?

Speaker 94 Yeah.

Speaker 1 What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 and that's why everyone ended up with some form of like temporary kind of ocd and pt you know like but even just when you look back at

Speaker 217 you just look back at like 90s letterman interviews yeah and you're like oh my gosh he's just like haranguing a teenager yeah yeah absolutely and we were like ha ha ha yeah

Speaker 1 that dumb slut

Speaker 179 exactly that was the culture that 55 year old man told that dumb teenager paris hilton will never be the same after that well but like the paris hilton thing,

Speaker 129 I still, I mean, it's rough.

Speaker 45 Like, I don't want to like celebrate that interview necessarily.

Speaker 165 Yeah.

Speaker 117 It is incredible.

Speaker 180 And it's Letterman being the most Letterman in the best, not the best way, but in a way that you're like, it's Letterman.

Speaker 28 And then I've talked about this before.

Speaker 90 It was the thing that like Anna Dresden and I watched and we were like, so I guess the iceberg should be like, I want to talk about this thing and not talk about this other thing.

Speaker 125 You know what I mean? Yeah.

Speaker 124 Modeled it after that interview specifically.

Speaker 203 Oh, really?

Speaker 183 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 161 Like we watched that.

Speaker 152 We were like, okay, so like, I just want to talk about that.

Speaker 184 on

Speaker 1 my other family yeah but it was like that was the 90s too it was like yeah really fucking yeah making you squirm a bit and there's just there's so many things even people like have you seen that again these are all people that i you know hold nothing against them like no but like there's some old conan clip where um the lady from melrose place uh

Speaker 120 heather lockle no um no oh gosh someone else the other blonde lady that guy

Speaker 174 courtney thorns thank you so much much.

Speaker 218 First of all,

Speaker 111 thanks for thank you.

Speaker 1 I believe it's Courtney Thorne Smith. And I forget.
Maybe it's like, I don't know if it's Conan once I had a norm on the other side or something. And they're just like doing a bit.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like some kind of bit that she looks really hot or whatever. And she's just trying to tell her story from whatever it is, the pre-interview of like a funny thing that happened.

Speaker 1 And it's like two maniacs on either side of her talk. And you're just like, oh, yeah, we're not doing that anymore.

Speaker 95 100%.

Speaker 1 But at the time, it was like, ha ha ha. Yeah.

Speaker 204 Okay.

Speaker 1 And those are like Conan is a lovely, kind, resolved, intelligent person. We all were, I should probably try to think of a story that I tell on myself instead of like,

Speaker 1 but there were like, we were just hard.

Speaker 171 We were hard people.

Speaker 87 Well, we had Seth Myers on the show like probably about a month ago.

Speaker 107 And he was saying that like the best time, like that he felt like the winning season was probably like 2008, 2009.

Speaker 89 Like obviously when you were going back.

Speaker 154 Sarah returned.

Speaker 135 Do you feel that way too?

Speaker 1 Well, I feel like that was a crazy good time.

Speaker 1 And Seth was head writer and was doing a great job and the world wasn't as dark and yeah for me i felt like that was my like prayer for owen meanie moment where i was like was i born to look like this lady i guess so yeah but now it all seems so gentle yeah i was there i remember i was i was literally there i remember one of the coolest ones was it was the i guess weekend update tuesday or wednesday oh yeah

Speaker 139 the thursday thing yes um they would add those things and i was at the time like a standby person like i would wait all the time yeah and so someone at the line, like, was like, Yeah, they actually give us tickets to the Thursday thing, so here'd you go.

Speaker 103 And it was you, Will Farrell, and I guess Daryl Hammond, right?

Speaker 87 Like,

Speaker 1 and he was doing Bush and stuff. Yep, I think I remember that was the one that my parents were like, that was a little too far.

Speaker 1 They were because they were Republicans, right?

Speaker 180 Oh, oh, oh, that was a little too far.

Speaker 1 I forget what, I don't remember what the jokes were about. Ah, right, they were on board to oh man, and then they got back on board

Speaker 1 wasn't a riff, they forgave

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Speaker 169 Until he dumped you and took it with him.

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Speaker 87 This is, I don't think I've, this is personally important to me, and I will never forget this, but I matriculated to NYU, lived with my sister, was not in student housing, and so I was very socially anxious about meeting new people.

Speaker 136 And I had researched the improv group at NYU in April of senior year of high school.

Speaker 113 And I'm reaching out to the Facebook page throwback and I messaged the Facebook page.

Speaker 127 When do you guys hold auditions?

Speaker 18 Does it work against me if I'm not in Tisch?

Speaker 31 If I'm just a science major?

Speaker 124 Does it work against me? Does it work against me? I was so

Speaker 55 person who answered me was Anna Dresen.

Speaker 117 She's like, hey,

Speaker 4 so funny.

Speaker 55 So funny, but just like cosmically, there was something about that. And then she was like, don't worry, good luck with your mini fedrantals.

Speaker 121 Like, bye.

Speaker 152 Yeah. And then auditioned for the improv group, made it to the the final round

Speaker 137 and then i was like i really hope i get this got the email from anna dresen saying we're so sorry oh fuck we were floored by everybody please start your own groups we shouldn't be the only game in town blah blah blah a game in town being nyu the only improv group at nyu i was like okay licking my wounds my sister had gone out i had the apartment to myself it was saturday michael phelps episode of snl Tina Amy were just going on as Hillary and Sarah.

Speaker 171 I get the call during the cold open live from Anna being like, I made a mistake.

Speaker 40 We talked about it, just kidding.

Speaker 204 We're taking on two people and you and like, you're in the group.

Speaker 214 And then it was like this crazy shift, like something like.

Speaker 150 The culture decided to be good.

Speaker 144 No, no, no.

Speaker 141 It was just, it was just like, we're gonna, it's gonna be a good time.

Speaker 210 The trajectory was like.

Speaker 121 perturbed in like the best way for me possible but like you were like the fact i caused it you caused it and no matter what you were like and amy didn't it was

Speaker 94 it was you It was you.

Speaker 127 But anyway, that's what I like will always fondly remember.

Speaker 92 Not that you're not. Oh, that's a great memory.

Speaker 120 That's a great memory.

Speaker 127 Okay, but is this the thing then, like starting at SNL when you did or coming back, whatever the after party culture is at any given time, is that informing what you and Amy do after the show?

Speaker 143 Where you're like, well, let's just go to bed.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. I mean, we used to, I mean, when we were at SNL, we used to go out until I had my first child.
And then I would sometimes begrudgingly go out and be like, you have to sit with Lauren.

Speaker 1 I'd be like, okay.

Speaker 182 Yeah.

Speaker 117 I'm at that stage, but I'm childless.

Speaker 100 I'm a childless bisexual.

Speaker 1 But we used to go, but I never was an after after. That was always, I'm like,

Speaker 140 I can't imagine what that would even be.

Speaker 1 No, I remember I feel like one time Tracy Morgan had like, he did like an illegal private casino somewhere

Speaker 1 that Dratch went to and like the next day was like, it was insane.

Speaker 161 Of course.

Speaker 165 I mean, it was insane.

Speaker 22 But speaking of all this culture, so that we're talking about in many ways, culture that made us like culture was for us, but we have to ask you this question.

Speaker 106 And it is, of course, a difficult question that is really open to interpretation.

Speaker 107 But Tina Fey, what was the culture that made you say culture is for me?

Speaker 125 Okay.

Speaker 1 I've been thinking about this question. I struggle to understand it, but I think I'm going to try to frame it like, have you ever done those I am from podcasts?

Speaker 185 Yes. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 So if we frame it that way, I'm also much older than you guys. And so I'm really going back.
I may say things that mean nothing to you, right?

Speaker 57 Like,

Speaker 1 I am from watching Benny Hill as a family.

Speaker 165 Good for you.

Speaker 111 Yes, yes, yes. What?

Speaker 120 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Watching a weird old man ogle women bikinis being like, this is formative.

Speaker 93 I am

Speaker 1 like, it's on PBS, guys.

Speaker 1 I am from, you know, a time when it just, our whole life was you go to Blockbuster.

Speaker 125 Yep.

Speaker 1 You rent the stepfather.

Speaker 1 You rent the now incredibly problematic sleep away camp

Speaker 122 one or two.

Speaker 1 That's like,

Speaker 1 and you watch it with your, you know, gay friends.

Speaker 1 Again, if you want to talk about how hard it is, like cackling

Speaker 1 at like, knowing like it's horrible, like, yeah, or like, it's me and my best friend Marlene going to Pretty Woman when it first came out and immediately cackling, being like, we're the only ones that know that she's a sex worker and this is grim, right?

Speaker 1 That, like, okay, this week it's Richard Gere, but every other week it's terrible.

Speaker 125 You know,

Speaker 134 cackling.

Speaker 1 What else? I mean,

Speaker 1 real world New York season one.

Speaker 1 Guys, I remember getting up early with my brother to see the beginning of MTV.

Speaker 211 Wow.

Speaker 204 The first video.

Speaker 226 Like downtown Julie Brown vibes.

Speaker 1 Like, like video killed the writer.

Speaker 94 Like, let's put it on.

Speaker 93 Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 Getting up to see Live Aid.

Speaker 236 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And being so pumped that it was partly in Philadelphia.

Speaker 120 And being

Speaker 128 was?

Speaker 1 Guys like Phil Collins is on the Concord. You guys see Phil Collins is on the Concord.

Speaker 1 Wow. Yeah, it was for whatever reason, because the quality of the venue, it was in wherever it was, in Wembley, I guess.

Speaker 182 It was Wembley.

Speaker 176 And like Veterans Stadium in Philadelphia or something.

Speaker 198 It must have been the vet. I'm silly and stupid, and I thought it was just in the UK.

Speaker 1 No, and that was the big thing was they were like,

Speaker 177 Phil Collins is going to play with this band and then get on the Concord and play again.

Speaker 56 Oh, Phil.

Speaker 1 What else has formed who I am? You know, Sheila E., the glamorous life.

Speaker 22 Wow. Thanks for that.

Speaker 186 You You know, Kelly Clarkson just brought her back.

Speaker 131 Sheila E is on Kelly Clarkson's album, and I feel like no one talks about it.

Speaker 132 Yeah, she's on the last track and she's tearing it up.

Speaker 1 Yes, like

Speaker 158 we gave her a special culture award.

Speaker 193 Sheila E? We did.

Speaker 63 We did.

Speaker 63 That's right.

Speaker 150 We gave her like a, we gave her something.

Speaker 132 She's been recognized by this podcast.

Speaker 120 Good.

Speaker 175 I'm glad. She must.

Speaker 1 What else can I give you? You know, The Divinals, I touch my sound.

Speaker 206 Oh, yeah, please.

Speaker 1 That was like, or like me trying to have to no success, trying to convince people that our junior prom theme should be there must be an angel by your rhythmics.

Speaker 1 Nobody would be.

Speaker 1 I was like, just going to keep writing these papers and putting it in the box. No.

Speaker 124 What was it?

Speaker 53 Ultimately, under the sea they needed to go.

Speaker 1 Well, it was like Brian Adams, Heaven.

Speaker 125 Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 And then I think maybe senior year was maybe like, this is the time, Billy Joel,

Speaker 141 which was a new

Speaker 93 song. Yeah.

Speaker 141 I love it.

Speaker 142 But this is the thing where I go, how would I have done?

Speaker 137 How would any of us do in like a bygone time?

Speaker 93 You would love it.

Speaker 132 The Blockbuster of it all really resonates because it's also about going to Blockbuster and only ever renting two things.

Speaker 1 Renting two things over and over.

Speaker 120 Over and over.

Speaker 125 Over and over.

Speaker 1 Watching another one was like.

Speaker 1 Arachnophobia was a big one. I feel like there's a Martin Sheen one that I can't think of that was like a horror movie.
Maybe that's right.

Speaker 1 And like also with my two good friends, Jim and Damien, who are brothers, who between the two of them are the amalgam that are the basis for the character.

Speaker 1 And in their house, they had a back staircase that had been closed off and made into a pantry that was full of every kind of junk food known to man.

Speaker 121 And we would just

Speaker 1 get after it. And also, just like, get after it, get after it.
Like, it was the it is like no one did fitness.

Speaker 1 Your outfit was like a high-collar thing with a blazer. Yeah.

Speaker 187 Like every, it was just like the

Speaker 94 soda.

Speaker 52 Did you drink a lot of soda?

Speaker 1 Drank so much soda. Would eat like a cheese hoagie.

Speaker 1 So like a 12-inch hoagie with three kinds of cheese.

Speaker 184 Yeah.

Speaker 204 Really, and then still able to to poop.

Speaker 93 Wow,

Speaker 139 right, exactly.

Speaker 146 Yeah, the body hadn't yet betrayed.

Speaker 1 And just think, I'm trying to think culturally, too. It was like V.C.
Andrews,

Speaker 1 Flowers in the Attic,

Speaker 1 reading those on the beach at the Jersey Shore or like on the trolley to work. I'm trying to

Speaker 1 other weird things that I don't realize are like I was obsessed with Paul Young.

Speaker 206 Paul Young.

Speaker 1 That was like every time you go away.

Speaker 156 Originally.

Speaker 147 He liked like boy music.

Speaker 1 well he was super cute oh okay yeah and like sctv used to be on after snl three weekends a month because then the fourth weekend it was wrestling and he'd be like uh

Speaker 220 who did you imprint on on sctv was it catherine oh my gosh or andrea

Speaker 1 andrea and catherine yeah for sure andrea so aspirational

Speaker 216 as you say did i use that right you used that right you absolutely used friskant right frison

Speaker 193 frison is the word of 2024 it's like we need molly ringwall to hear what translate it's just like a feeling of like something in the air euphoria like when something is like oh I have the frissant thinking about this like when you mention Sam

Speaker 122 it's the table

Speaker 148 I got the frison thinking about Sam getting us on guardians of the goddamn cosmic rewind

Speaker 20 I think that the boy music thing is like

Speaker 151 that is also a thing like the men of the 80s and 90s you were allowed to be yeah but like there was something I'm gonna say like

Speaker 9 set aside like ogling and stuff, but like the men of that time,

Speaker 78 I sound insane for saying this.

Speaker 170 I don't.

Speaker 142 You could look up to men in a way that was like

Speaker 117 fine. Yeah.

Speaker 141 You could look up to men and be like, I'm okay.

Speaker 93 I'm okay.

Speaker 1 I weren't worried about what they were up to, maybe.

Speaker 117 But not even that. I mean, I think they were good Americans.

Speaker 187 Good Americans. That's going to be the name of the separation.

Speaker 139 That's the name of this episode.

Speaker 105 No, literally, good Americans in CNFA.

Speaker 1 But we also, I mean, we also were like Janet Jackson, Madonna, Gogos, like that's a long Eurythmics.

Speaker 1 I remember also remember when Eurythmics came out, like when the first sweet dreams came out and we were like people were scared of them yeah it was like different like she had that short hair and she was wearing a suit and everyone was like what's that she was haunted pop and even when she did like diva and like did do her own thing like it was still there was something sinister about it in a way that i loved yeah like yeah just gender bendy or the song why by annie lennox

Speaker 167 I want that as I'm lowered into the ground, I think.

Speaker 94 Remember that.

Speaker 1 I do say, revisit There Must Be an Angel.

Speaker 182 It's beautiful.

Speaker 87 Okay.

Speaker 148 And also, I mean, Walking on Broken Glass, like, there's a reason for it.

Speaker 132 Someone's going to sample that song and it's going to be

Speaker 120 a bunch of stranger things or something.

Speaker 125 Yeah, 100%.

Speaker 192 Yeah.

Speaker 166 Like, like that song taking off the Cape Bush of it all.

Speaker 173 I'm happy for the rediscovery.

Speaker 1 You guys talked about this, that's the year of

Speaker 1 the needle drop.

Speaker 167 Yes. Yes.
100%.

Speaker 150 Did you watch the bear? No.

Speaker 1 Okay. I have seen some of them, but not all of them.

Speaker 103 Probably one of the most famous needle drops of this year is Taylor Swift's love story on the bear.

Speaker 94 Oh, they did that?

Speaker 192 They did that.

Speaker 220 And to get the Taylor Swift song must have cost a lot of money.

Speaker 148 So thankfully it paid off on The Bear.

Speaker 150 The Bear You're Doing Excellent.

Speaker 120 Yes.

Speaker 139 You guys are crushing it out there.

Speaker 54 They really are. They really are.

Speaker 215 It's so wild to see her like slay drama like this.

Speaker 117 I am. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yes. I know.
I have to go back and get into it so I can see where her character arc went because

Speaker 94 she's so good.

Speaker 150 And I think it was like, I always like, of course, coming up with her, like we always knew she was so talented.

Speaker 52 But then I was watching Bottoms.

Speaker 213 Did you see Bottoms?

Speaker 97 bottoms yes i was watching her on screen there's a scene where the camera gets way up in her face and i think she's having a moment with um her love interest and i'm like you got it girl like she got it big time we were big time we were in the edit yesterday for um this pre-tape every take i was like oh io knows

Speaker 5 she knows where to find

Speaker 141 the camera whatever the camera but like and then it would cut to me and it'd be like what am i doing

Speaker 141 no no no but when you know what to do with the camera do we all have this?

Speaker 279 Do we all have this thing where it's this,

Speaker 8 there is some dysmorphia is, that might not be the right word, but it's like,

Speaker 89 I think it's getting worse and worse for me in terms of watching myself.

Speaker 1 I've reached a point where I don't do it.

Speaker 96 Like,

Speaker 1 unless it's something that I'm in charge of and it's like, I have to edit it.

Speaker 125 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm like, oh, I'm going to make this movie and I have an idea.

Speaker 194 I'm never going to watch it.

Speaker 190 Yeah, I got it.

Speaker 1 And that's like freeing.

Speaker 191 Yeah.

Speaker 72 You know, when it came out about the four seasons,

Speaker 151 the gay group chats were popping.

Speaker 116 up. Of course, of course.

Speaker 184 That's really exciting. I'm excited about that, too.

Speaker 139 Yeah, this is going to be good.

Speaker 1 I hope so.

Speaker 87 That's a good link up again with Tracy and with

Speaker 1 Tracy and Lang the best. Tracy Wigfield and Lang Fisher.

Speaker 184 Oh, yeah, that's going to be the funny writers.

Speaker 107 The gays that remembered the movie were like,

Speaker 98 like, they were very, very totally.

Speaker 184 Oh, that's great.

Speaker 195 Oh, no, yeah.

Speaker 183 They're lining up already.

Speaker 220 I can't get over that my two movies from Blockbuster were the First Wives Club and Golden Eye.

Speaker 179 That's that was my personality. That's where it started.

Speaker 184 Like First Wives Club.

Speaker 1 That makes sense.

Speaker 284 Yeah, first wives club though you watch it now and you're like it's so a movie of the 90s where it's just like it takes a bit to get into being a movie.

Speaker 97 Yeah, and then it is you know what I mean?

Speaker 38 But I kind of missed the days where it was just like, no, the first half hour is just gonna be a lot of relationship building. Yep.

Speaker 98 Like a lot.

Speaker 214 Yeah.

Speaker 227 Is it any first doc stuff that actually ever pays off in the end?

Speaker 170 No, right?

Speaker 179 That felt like a 90s thing where it was like, you just I think it's all worth it to watch them at the end sing you don't own me.

Speaker 1 And I i can't remember anything else about the movie besides that yeah and you know who else you forget is in that movie kind of crushing it is sjp yeah she's great in that movie so good she's great in that movie she's great in la story yes yeah she's great in ed wood oh yeah i think i've seen ed wood oh this is wait a minute oh and ed wood is so great that's a really good one okay i've got two weeks off yeah

Speaker 95 wow you do have two weeks off so excited i'm not going anywhere i'm going to the beacon i was gonna say accept the beacon

Speaker 1 so wait when you would have a vacation from snl back in the day would you go or would you just sit would you bed rot i think i mostly just sat i feel like people at snl do much better sort of self-care and living their lives but i think in the beginning my now husband was still in chicago so sometimes i would go back to chicago for the week or whatever but but no i didn't i never took one real vacation yeah yeah yeah i'm just still learning how to to do that i'm like oh right you book a trip and then you go there yeah right exactly i've never developed i i don't think, I think my time is up.

Speaker 90 Like, I think if I haven't learned by now to like book a vacation on the two weeks off, then like, I don't think I ever will for my remaining time there.

Speaker 136 I'm just like, I don't have that thing of like that admin thing of like, let me book an Airbnb or something.

Speaker 4 So I think it's, I think there's something about working there that like makes you want to stay put because you're just like moving around a lot or something.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you need to recover. Yeah, the thought of going to the airport doesn't seem good after that.

Speaker 99 no never ever i literally did this when you were in town last season where i would like do a show on saturday my flight was at 8 a.m after daylight savings after the spring clock dumped forward so i lost an hour and then went to the airport to go to london to then yeah shoot and i was just like this is actually

Speaker 20 This is CTE.

Speaker 90 This is like, there's my personal part of my brain that's leaving.

Speaker 117 Yeah.

Speaker 39 And so, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I think. Oh my God, that sketch last night when I was like, and when the wind blows, I can feel my memory.

Speaker 125 Who wrote that?

Speaker 54 Shout out to Asha Ward.

Speaker 185 Hilarious.

Speaker 128 She is crushing.

Speaker 157 She's this, she's a new young writer.

Speaker 126 She co-wrote this elevator sketch with us as well.

Speaker 143 She

Speaker 90 is so damn funny.

Speaker 118 And yeah, no, she said that line to us on Tuesday night when she was pitching it.

Speaker 40 When she was kind of like going around with the idea, she's like, yeah, it's based off this People's Court, this actual People's Court episode.

Speaker 94 Where it was,

Speaker 159 the plaintiff did have like the haircut was

Speaker 89 that her scalp was showing, obviously, not her actual brain.

Speaker 153 But then Asha's like, I think we're gonna make it her brain and the sketch is like that's amazing and then and then asha goes yeah and i think i wanted to say when the wind blows i can feel my memories like being blown away and i threw my head back i was like you have to put that yeah you must you must i did want to ask so like when you're at snl and also you're at the same time writing mean girls like i guess i'm what i'm wondering is like how long did it take you to do that because i remember like literally at the time reading interviews with you where you were like i just wanted to see if i could do it yeah and then you so obviously could but like how what was that process of like juggling that because that seems like a lot of work all the time I am trying to remember

Speaker 1 I know I did a bunch of it in the summer I feel like maybe it was over two summers because it was the first time we rented a house in Fire Island on

Speaker 1 a gas dyer had recommended just doing that and we went and we trash picked a desk and we carried it and I remember Jeff's arms got like a huge because you never it's not fire island if you don't get a weird rash right and he like immediately got a rash and i was like oh i think there was deer pee all over the desk or something

Speaker 1 and so the i must have been doing first draft the first summer and then the shooting i remember the second summer was the shooting draft because i would get mark waters the director i would get pages of notes every single day and i'd be like i think i did it and then be like okay let's go through today again he's like page four and i'd be like yeah but he was right it was like it was stuff of like where are they this like could this be short It was like a lot of technical stuff.

Speaker 1 And there was a amazing woman named Jill Messick who worked for Lorne at the time, who she also was just like poking me. Okay.
Like a lot of drafts between in between unofficial drafts.

Speaker 1 So I don't think I was doing it. I must have been doing it on weeks off.
Yeah. I don't think, I don't have a memory of doing it, trying to do it at the same time as the actual show.

Speaker 131 Like only because like, and obviously, like.

Speaker 146 The movie is so perfect.

Speaker 112 It's just everything.

Speaker 131 It's one of those things that like just falls into place in every way.

Speaker 82 like i remember we were saying

Speaker 107 it was one of those movies where you sat down and watched it and i knew i was going to and had to remember every line of stuff happening i saw it with my cousin and i was just like this is a really special thing and then going to school i remember like i was like all the track girls i used to run winter

Speaker 98 this is a specific but i would run track and i would practice with all the girls because we would just talk about things like this yeah and everyone knew it wow all the lines yeah and it was so funny because i watched my one friend sort of, I could tell she wanted to be like Regina George in a way where she didn't really get it.

Speaker 150 I was like, you don't want to be actually mean. Like, but the way she started speaking and like, it truly

Speaker 192 took over.

Speaker 151 I remember it was that Anchorman, where it was like, and I remember as a gay kid too, I learned the language of mean girls because that was what all the girls were doing.

Speaker 154 And then Anchorman was what all the boys were doing.

Speaker 131 And so it was sort of this like code switch.

Speaker 166 You had to code switch. Yeah.

Speaker 103 And I remember taking my dad to see it.

Speaker 154 And like, he was so excited because it was coming from from you and I remember it was just like this like moment that felt like a unifier like in high school because everyone thought it was funny everyone thought the cast was amazing and I really wanted to ask about Rachel McAdam because this is essentially is a Rachel McAdam stand podcast yeah we could just talk about her and no one and we should yeah

Speaker 150 but like I was reading an interview with you recently where you were like you mentioned like watching her act like change the way that you approached it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because I had never been in a movie before and I didn't know what I would would go and be in the scene. I had only done SNL and I wasn't even really in sketches on SNL just to update.

Speaker 1 So I would be like, I would literally be like, in my head, I'd be like, I don't know if I'm on camera right now. So I'm going to try real hard every time.

Speaker 1 Like didn't know to even ask if I'm in this part of the setup. And she, her performance was so small that I remember being worried and going to Mark Watson and being like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 And then you get the dailies and it was like, yeah, perfection. But it was very, it was small.
It was a film performance.

Speaker 1 It wasn't like me like,

Speaker 123 we talk about that all the time like the sketch mentality of coming in in one mode especially like because we didn't have any acting training coming up we were like creatures of the basement you know like any of us and then all of a sudden you book a thing where you have to be on camera acting and they're like hey just throw it away and you're like i don't know what does that mean

Speaker 1 but you learn but the difference is then when you see when you see people in snl when you see someone like io who understands the assignment to use a now old phrase yeah um it's now though it's back i brought it back um she understands what she's supposed to do and what sketch requires.

Speaker 1 And then you compare to, well, not name names, but you see people who come in who have only ever done film, whose performances are built in the edit room, who have no internal sense of pacing or even energy.

Speaker 175 Yeah. And you, and oh, they can fuck up a show.

Speaker 109 But they can slay the pre-tapes. They can slay the pretapes.

Speaker 122 Slay the pre-tapes.

Speaker 1 Pre-tapes for them. Pre-tapes.

Speaker 99 Literally all we want to tell people now at SNL, like all I tell the hosts all the time on Wednesdays, especially at the re-throw, I go, fast and loud.

Speaker 170 We were just like, just do it fast and loud.

Speaker 1 Fast fast and loud wow and that usually it's plenty dials it in it's plenty yeah that's why amy talks about how because we do a q a in our show and like we often get asked like you know who are your favorite guests and stuff and she's like i love athletes because they're used to being coached and they don't care and you can just be like just do that they just do it louder and like say it like and they're like okay uh you also get a sense that anyone with like a disney kid pass yep comes in there and tears it up yep also by the way people who have done and there are fewer and fewer of these people but it used to be people who had done soaps because like you know who's got his start on soaps Alec Baldwin.

Speaker 175 Alec.

Speaker 1 Julianne Moore.

Speaker 146 Yes. Julianne Moore.

Speaker 178 Make a choice.

Speaker 207 Make a choice and go.

Speaker 117 Get Lisa Rinna to host.

Speaker 154 Oh, come on, Lisa.

Speaker 148 Julianne Moore, I think, well, and that's, I think our favorite movie of the year is May December. We fucking love May December.

Speaker 176 That's your favorite movie of the year.

Speaker 94 I love May December.

Speaker 94 I enjoyed it.

Speaker 10 That and Four Things were my. I haven't watched Four Things yet.

Speaker 105 Oh, you'd love it. Oh, you'd like Four Things.

Speaker 120 It's great. Emma's.

Speaker 109 Emma's another one.

Speaker 131 Like, comes in and just

Speaker 124 gets it, yeah.

Speaker 132 And gets it, gets it on camera, obviously but julianne more i guess because what's so fun about the movie is it's like purposefully a melodrama right that insane music that music when she's like we're out of hot dog yeah we do

Speaker 186 with her insane accent but then she was talking about like she's like well you know i started in soaps and i actually did the archetype of like the twins the twins the evil twins like the amnesia twin yeah so it wasn't even just amnesia or just twin it was both wow acting opposite herself wanting to kill herself incredible kill the other but like makes all the the sense in the world to me.

Speaker 137 Wait, you said that about Alec too, though, where it's like the Rachel McAdams thing, where it's like, just so quiet.

Speaker 147 You're like, is this going to work?

Speaker 55 And then you watch the earlier.

Speaker 111 You're like, oh, my God.

Speaker 182 Oh, my God. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And sometimes, you know, real stars, they don't really do what they're going to do until you're on their close-up.

Speaker 1 And so, you know, you look at those first two seasons of 30 at Rock and I'm like, hey, we got that

Speaker 197 block.

Speaker 197 And he's like,

Speaker 1 you won that one, son.

Speaker 93 You won that one.

Speaker 146 It really is wild, though, because you do a take and they're like, okay, we're moving on.

Speaker 123 And you're like, there's no way we can.

Speaker 214 I didn't do anything. And they're like, no, you give the performance of a lifetime.

Speaker 110 You just won't ever know because it wasn't fun for you at all.

Speaker 94 Right. Exactly.
But it worked for us. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Back to Mean Girls really quickly.

Speaker 117 Yeah, please.

Speaker 143 How many times did you see it in the theater?

Speaker 126 Cause you brought your dad.

Speaker 128 Three.

Speaker 93 So I saw

Speaker 93 four

Speaker 93 for you. God bless you.

Speaker 95 Four pictures.

Speaker 111 Oh, come on.

Speaker 216 I mean, like, first of all, like, I wonder how this feels too.

Speaker 109 Because to join this thing of like, it was like Heather's, it was Clueless, and then it's Mean Girls.

Speaker 129 And that has to be really meaningful.

Speaker 1 Very meaningful to me. Yeah.
Cause those, you know, Heather's and Clueless were hugely informative.

Speaker 196 Yeah. I mean,

Speaker 90 this is my thing.

Speaker 159 This is my specificity with it is there was like a website 2004, 2005, in that time of the internet called like the script database or something.

Speaker 111 And they would either have the screenplay, the original screenplay of the movie, any movie you could think of, if they had it.

Speaker 90 the original actual PDF or the scan or whatever of the script, or they would have a transcript. And then I remember reaching out to the admin of that being like, I will transcribe Mean Girls for you.

Speaker 94 And then he's like, did you do it?

Speaker 125 And I did it.

Speaker 125 And then that's freaking news.

Speaker 171 And this guy was like, God bless you.

Speaker 89 The demand for a movie has never been higher than 14.

Speaker 141 The fact that you did that.

Speaker 124 And I was like, I'm going to do it.

Speaker 128 And I wrote the fucking, like, the slugs and the new romance.

Speaker 230 I didn't write, I transcribed Mean Girls.

Speaker 155 He was like, well, you were Molly Ring

Speaker 101 14. Wow.

Speaker 127 I was, I was, this is what I said.

Speaker 136 I said, I can get you the script.

Speaker 142 And then this guy, this like 30-year-old man was probably like, you mean the actual like Tina Fey like draft?

Speaker 226 I was like, no, no, no.

Speaker 159 I'm just going to type out what they say.

Speaker 94 I like didn't know.

Speaker 94 I didn't know what he was. I didn't know what he was looking for.

Speaker 159 He was like, I don't care. I'll take a transcript.

Speaker 8 I was like, oh, that's yes, of course, transcribing.

Speaker 161 Yes.

Speaker 159 I will write out what they say.

Speaker 148 I'll say, Katie says that, you know, like,

Speaker 29 that was the level of like crazy fucking, yeah.

Speaker 22 There's like joy in every scene.

Speaker 103 And I guess what I feel is like, you forget like that such big deals came out of that movie too, like Amanda Seiferid.

Speaker 166 Like she's just so in the fabric of the movie, having fun doing her part that you forget that she would then become like

Speaker 184 Amanda Seiferid.

Speaker 168 Yeah, hello.

Speaker 149 And I mean, it was, it's like that down to

Speaker 129 everything.

Speaker 150 And I wonder, like, in shooting it, did you know that it was like, did you have a feeling that there was something special happening? Which feels like a question, like a boring question, but

Speaker 22 because it did end up being culturally significant.

Speaker 174 Thank you.

Speaker 1 I feel like, I mean, part of the reason that it worked is because those girls were so legit and took it seriously and played and played it so real, you know, if they had been campy about it, because I think that's the thing I try to sometimes pass on in whatever writers' rooms or whatever is like, no one, no villain thinks they're, no one's the villain in their story.

Speaker 1 Right. Like Regina's whole thing is like, it's hard.
Like, she's going to come crying to me and then I got to help her.

Speaker 197 Like,

Speaker 1 no one's the villain in their own story, right? And I think they all played that perfectly because, you know, and you can see now, like, oh, Regina's a villain. Janice is a villain.

Speaker 1 katie's a huge villain like everyone's making mistakes and they played them all perfectly um but you know i think i was just at that place of like basically like is it gonna air you know i'm like we're gonna we're gonna it's gonna get made that was the that was the triumph in my mind that's refreshing to hear because i think i think matt and i are in that mindset right now where we're just like we're working on things and we're just like let's just not worry about the the contours of this.

Speaker 127 Let's just like, the goal is just to get it made.

Speaker 171 100%.

Speaker 177 You know what I mean? I read this book.

Speaker 1 I think it's it's called Like Wild and Crazy Guys.

Speaker 1 And it's just a little nonfiction book about that span of time where like it's like Steve Martin, Eddie Murphy, Bill Murray, Dan, it's like all of when they all were blowing up

Speaker 1 and what movies got made and whatever. And so many of these movies that are just canon to us,

Speaker 1 they were like, didn't really open.

Speaker 177 And you're like, oh, I don't care.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, I watched it 100,000 times, whatever, the man with two brains or, you know, like, that was just, there just were movies, you know, and to like not worry too much about like

Speaker 1 how it does how it does yeah how many theaters it is just

Speaker 132 you wonder like how many things we would actually love so much that it just get written off i wonder about that all the time like with the way the industry is now like how many things aren't getting made yeah that like are actually going to be things that we think about in 15 20 years you know what i mean like it feels very far and few between that you get something you know yeah yeah well i think movies still are tighter yeah like i feel like tv because there's just so much more, like, you are getting, like, you're getting reservation dogs.

Speaker 1 You're getting, you know, Simon Rich's weird show where the fifteen out.

Speaker 162 Like,

Speaker 1 Simon. Simon.
You know, this is what Bottoms felt like.

Speaker 195 Yeah, totally.

Speaker 1 So refreshing.

Speaker 106 Well, she's incredible.

Speaker 135 Emma Seligman, the director of that, she's like, I think she can do anything.

Speaker 91 She can.

Speaker 279 Between Shiva Baby and Bottom.

Speaker 125 And we love Rachel.

Speaker 93 I mean,

Speaker 67 so it's happening.

Speaker 1 Like, and you know, my daughter's 18, my older daughter, and that is bottoms, is everything.

Speaker 94 Really? Everything. Right.

Speaker 152 Yeah.

Speaker 91 It's her meme girls in a way.

Speaker 67 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 116 Oh, that's so cool.

Speaker 20 That's so cool.

Speaker 212 I mean, it is this thing where, like, maybe we're just because we're like in, we have some awareness.

Speaker 126 We're like reading like the ankler or whatever, but I'm just like, the survivorship bias of it all is really hitting me where I'm just like, oh, yeah, if I think too hard about the things that aren't getting me, then I start to, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 92 I start to lose my mind a little.

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Speaker 132 and though going to the casting of me girl did everyone audition for that um like did you get a tape from lizzie kaplan or were you like gosh i i think so yeah probably yeah it just feels like there can't have ever been a time when there was like not those not those it's one of those things it's like yeah i think so and lindsay had worked with mark before lindsay was coming she had a lot of heat coming off of freaky friday

Speaker 125 and this is also mark waters

Speaker 1 i think maybe i can't remember we should fact check for sure okay but yeah yeah i think so yeah and she came and she i remember she came by snl just to like hang out and be seen because she want i think she wanted to be considered yeah she wanted to play regina which i think yes yes and lauren was

Speaker 1 always wise was like no you want that person to be the person who takes the the trajectory to regina yeah he's like that he's basically that's the the part that you want yeah she was like okay

Speaker 101 Was that when both you and Dennis were head writer?

Speaker 143 Or no, when he was doing it, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 117 That's so funny.

Speaker 87 I love Dennis.

Speaker 148 She was also a killer on SNL.

Speaker 94 Oh, just killers.

Speaker 1 People who like acted as kids also, they're just like, where do I stand and what do I say? Let's do it. Miley Cyrus, where do I stand?

Speaker 184 What do I say? Keeky Palmer.

Speaker 125 Locked Love. Keeky Palmer.

Speaker 183 Kiki Palmer, everything. Yep.

Speaker 217 Keeky Palmer is a bad thing.

Speaker 1 We need to push more children into showing.

Speaker 94 Yeah, 100%.

Speaker 174 We need to

Speaker 1 feed the SNL host pipeline by ruining children.

Speaker 164 If there is like some sort of surgical Neuralink type procedure to just to implant that thing in actors of just like, stand here, say it loud, say it loud.

Speaker 154 Fast and loud.

Speaker 214 I never, you guys had that at the same time, too.

Speaker 184 That must be like fast and loud. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 127 That's not what Sudi would say that to, and then Celeste and I say that now, like to all the hosts.

Speaker 143 We're just like, just project.

Speaker 41 That's that's our thing.

Speaker 117 But we're nice about it. We're not like, we're just like, yeah, just

Speaker 87 fast and loud.

Speaker 209 It works.

Speaker 165 I bet it does. Anyway.

Speaker 134 I mean,

Speaker 86 vibes are incredible. Vibes are incredible last night.

Speaker 125 They really were. I mean, from home.

Speaker 147 They were nice. Yeah.
They were nice. Are you watching every week?

Speaker 1 Not every single week, but I try. You know, what sort of got me back into the every was Alice being old enough to and like wanting to stay up and watch it.

Speaker 1 But she was not home last night because she was at the cast party for her own high school musical.

Speaker 122 What are they doing when they do?

Speaker 1 Well, the prom. She killed it.

Speaker 141 They all killed it. They were all great.

Speaker 230 That may sound like a tour de force.

Speaker 125 All girls' production of the family.

Speaker 94 Oh, really?

Speaker 193 Oh, that's even more.

Speaker 74 Oh, that's beautiful.

Speaker 120 I love that.

Speaker 182 I know.

Speaker 1 It was super cute.

Speaker 186 Of the prom.

Speaker 79 Okay, so that is a hilarious idea to think about someone playing Dee Dee as like a child.

Speaker 141 And by the way, but it's a no,

Speaker 177 girl, kill, kill. Killed her.
I wish I had video for you because she killed me. I bet.

Speaker 191 Oh, my God.

Speaker 109 That's the like the people are like, if you could do one role, what would it be?

Speaker 110 I'm like, I know.

Speaker 141 It'll never happen, but I'd love to do Dee De in the prom.

Speaker 151 I had to do drag for the show I was in last year, and like I put this little wig on, like a little, you know, side swoop, like not exactly Catherine Zeta, but in the world and I was like I think I am D D

Speaker 1 I know I am you're D D you know Jeff my husband Jeff yes yeah so he often brings up that like back in musical theater like major college yeah we used to take makeup class and part of makeup class was always like you had to do drag or whatever like you had to like do a gender swap with your makeup and he really likes to brag that he looked this maybe total reference fee but he's like I was very pretty and I looked like Barbara Mandrell Barbara Mandrell he's like I was very pretty have you seen photos could you confirm I have not seen photos Okay, well, you should tell him to put on a face again.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 1 He has a beard right now, but

Speaker 1 he might shave it for the opportunity.

Speaker 134 We might shave.

Speaker 103 Just tell him if he wants a stage. We do something called the Culture Awards every year.

Speaker 253 He's welcome to come out and do it.

Speaker 125 Give his full Mandrell.

Speaker 1 And then you can judge whether he still looks like Barbara Mandrell.

Speaker 187 Oh, we're not.

Speaker 67 Barbara Mandrell.

Speaker 132 Also, you're kind of almost there with the drag name anyway.

Speaker 87 Totally.

Speaker 117 Meandrell. And then

Speaker 111 this is what I'm saying.

Speaker 125 This is what we're saying.

Speaker 154 The opportunity. He's looking riper and riper.

Speaker 4 We're not going to judge him.

Speaker 45 It's going to be like a fucking VMA situation where he knows ahead of time that he's winning the award.

Speaker 93 We were saying that's the VMA.

Speaker 63 He's like, because the Grammys are today.

Speaker 123 And we're like, we think people don't know if they're going to win a Grammy, but I think you know if you're winning like a VMA.

Speaker 1 I bet. Yeah.

Speaker 129 Because Taylor Swift has changed her.

Speaker 94 She's changed her flight. Yeah.

Speaker 123 She's changed her Instagram to all black and white, which we believe means there's an announcement coming.

Speaker 102 And I'm like, well, I wonder if Taylor Swift could find out in advance if she's winning a Grammy.

Speaker 132 Because if someone could, it's probably Taylor Swift, right?

Speaker 148 Probably.

Speaker 53 You don't know what the Oscars, you don't know what the Emmys, you probably don't know what the Grammys.

Speaker 87 Yeah.

Speaker 5 It's not people's choice. No, no, no.

Speaker 115 You've won a ton of these things.

Speaker 120 They call you before.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. I feel like I do remember one time with the Golden Globes, like Alec was nominated for 30 Rock and he wasn't, and he was like, Can we just call them and ask them if I want? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because I felt like with that one, maybe you could have. And I don't think he was able to.

Speaker 1 And I don't remember if he won or not or, but I don't, he was like, surely this one, they'll just tell me if I have to go.

Speaker 1 And, well, I mean I bet they would if it's Alec whatever especially the globes at that time now oh by the way your guys would you guys go back and host again or oh my gosh I don't know like it's a thing because we ended the last time we did it was this weird like zoom one that was the bummer but we did used to have so much fun doing that we really did you guys were the best at it the zoom one can be the period on the piece oh that's the tricky one to put the pressure on i know but maybe yeah we could either try to erase the zoom one or yeah well nbc doesn't own it anymore right right and you know me you countess Countess Lou Ann, we work for NBC.

Speaker 5 You got it.

Speaker 41 We're Comcast girl.

Speaker 148 You don't want to upset Lou, who's in charge of NBC these days.

Speaker 192 Right.

Speaker 202 I will say she was on one the other night.

Speaker 151 She is alive up there.

Speaker 194 Yeah.

Speaker 150 She goes for it.

Speaker 82 And it's so funny because you watch the early seasons and you're like, this woman's never going to become a cabaret star. And then you go to 54 Below and she was doing covers of Oh, What a Night.

Speaker 1 How do I ask this delicately?

Speaker 175 Has she been

Speaker 1 working on her singing? Can I say that? Because everyone does.

Speaker 188 It's so deeply.

Speaker 1 Taylor Swift did. Yeah, you know what? 100%.

Speaker 124 Here's what I'll say.

Speaker 123 There is a

Speaker 111 quality to her voice that I think limits what it can do.

Speaker 195 Yes, it's low and raspy.

Speaker 153 It is so low. It's a B.

Speaker 1 Arthur.

Speaker 117 It's a Carol Channing.

Speaker 1 It's a Channing, yeah.

Speaker 103 It exists where it exists.

Speaker 202 And so I think we're picking songs that just the keys are two steps down from what they even are for the men she covers.

Speaker 150 Yes.

Speaker 110 But I will say there's something sort of

Speaker 129 she really knows her range.

Speaker 1 She's matching pitch.

Speaker 158 100%.

Speaker 82 And you're never going to see her like go for the money note.

Speaker 132 Right.

Speaker 229 In fact, one time she did go for the money note, and it was more like I'm joyfully making a big sound than it is I'm hitting a note.

Speaker 75 Which it's just about the selling and the delivery of it.

Speaker 228 Yeah.

Speaker 116 I think her range being what it is is the perfect extra dimension to her performance.

Speaker 76 And I think she knows that now.

Speaker 4 And I think she's like, let me just have fun.

Speaker 1 You know, I'm not the best singer and we're saying this with love lou well there's a lot of people who yeah if it's like if you know how to put your show together yeah and give people and also if people know what they're signing up for yes we were signing up for four red sangrias i found yeah and

Speaker 168 that is i don't know i don't know what it was about it that made me feel like this is the drink tonight sugar and wine

Speaker 1 i don't drink

Speaker 150 and this is also what got me really i make like a quote unquote famous sangria winter sangria for holidays It's just so much booze. And I literally was just like, yay.

Speaker 107 And I realized no one likes it as much as me.

Speaker 149 But because I made it, I feel it must get consumed.

Speaker 129 And then you're blacked out on Christmas.

Speaker 51 And I don't even get drunk like this.

Speaker 52 It's only when I'm drinking red sangria.

Speaker 126 NYU, before pre-21, if you didn't have a fake, the place to go is Little Italy, you would just order like a house Chianti.

Speaker 142 The house Chianti. Well, no, you would order like a huge picture of Sangria.

Speaker 145 And the cottage, too. It got you there.

Speaker 92 Well, it caused you to be there.

Speaker 134 Wow, it's a Chinese cottage. Do you remember the Chinese?

Speaker 94 Yeah, Yeah, the Chinese place.

Speaker 35 So they're lost.

Speaker 174 Two of us and Steph Shu of Everything Ever, Oscar Domini, Steph Shu would go there in college and get wasted at 19.

Speaker 62 And drink red wine.

Speaker 148 What was that?

Speaker 2 It was worse than Tube Chuck.

Speaker 127 It was something worse than Tubuck Chuck.

Speaker 1 Fermented Welch's grape juice. Yeah, 100%.

Speaker 279 I had my birthday there.

Speaker 186 It was like a party of 25 underage kids getting so

Speaker 214 much of this red wine.

Speaker 46 So much.

Speaker 9 But wait, in terms of putting together a show, though, just quickly, was it like you and Amy being like, what do we want to do?

Speaker 2 Do we just want to sit down?

Speaker 120 Because it would be easy to just do that.

Speaker 167 I mean, we do it all the time, right?

Speaker 158 Just sit down and do a QA.

Speaker 1 We did a little test run of at like Netflix is a joke last year. It's just mostly a QA and a couple little, like, really undercooked bits, and it was easy and fun.

Speaker 1 But we sort of thought, like, oh, we should have a little bit of structure.

Speaker 1 And so, we do, I feel like this is a really nice little structure. I don't know if I should give it away.

Speaker 1 They keep touring, but like, yeah, we it has sort of like four parts.

Speaker 1 There are wardrobe changes. Oh, There are one to four wigs.

Speaker 79 Yes.

Speaker 120 Oh, good.

Speaker 162 Depending on the night.

Speaker 125 There is a little bit of improv.

Speaker 93 There's a little bit of stand-up. Come on.

Speaker 1 And a special guest. And a special guest.
And so, but if so, the structure we, it felt reminded us of Golden Globes Times because we always have, we have such, it's over 30 years

Speaker 176 that we know each other.

Speaker 1 So we do really have a shorthand of like, what if we go X, Y, Z? Like, there's no ego in it. There's like, we, and also we both been producing things for a long time.
So I do feel proud.

Speaker 1 I feel like we're giving the white women that come to see us

Speaker 1 and other people too.

Speaker 100 Yeah.

Speaker 206 Let's not fool ourselves.

Speaker 147 And 30-something Asian gaming.

Speaker 93 And beautiful Asian gaming.

Speaker 125 All are welcome.

Speaker 1 I feel like we're giving people like what they want.

Speaker 1 But in a way, but also it's like, hopefully a little bit surprising as it goes along.

Speaker 1 And, but the answer is like, basically, we, I was on set, we were finishing filming the Mean and Girls movie in Middletown, New Jersey.

Speaker 1 And we had, Amy, and I had been working like once a week over Zoom, being like talking about what the show could be, whatever.

Speaker 1 And then we had from the day I finished, and it was a brutal, it was a very tiring, fast shoot. It was like a lot of late nights and whatever.
And

Speaker 1 so that was, say, I finished on like the Monday. And then like the Saturday, we were like, our test show was in Portchester.
So she came and we had like three or four days.

Speaker 1 It was very much like the Golden Globes. We were like, okay, we got this.
We got this. And we just sort of finished figuring out the show.

Speaker 1 And we've honed it some some since but it is sort of like you know when you write stuff and it's born quickly and it just comes right out it's usually a good sign yes and the structure kind of just slipped right out so when did you realize there was like music to you and amy like i wonder like you guys have always been like friends and i think i don't know how true this is but like you were snl and like put her name in their ears and then she came like yeah so we started you know we were in we started together at improv olympic yeah sharna halperin said to both of us this girl you're gonna like this girl

Speaker 1 and we were the only two girls on a team who got inside Vladimir, and which is a really good gay porn tape. That's what it was named after.

Speaker 1 Yes, we watched our gay porn video VHS tape that was on display at J.J.

Speaker 94 Pepper's on Clark and Road Fourway.

Speaker 217 Oh my god, huge for them.

Speaker 1 And I remember we also were like, we named it after that, and then as a team, we were like, we should all watch it once as a group. And then we're like, oh, we watched like the first 10 minutes.

Speaker 1 And then people drifted to other parts of the party, except for like one or two of the straight guys that just hung in.

Speaker 125 Yeah, right?

Speaker 22 Code switching. I got it.

Speaker 1 Yes. And so we toured together.
And then she, and we were both understudies for the main stage. And she was 100% the A team.
And I was the B team. Like, I remember one time, Kelly Leonard was like,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 so-and-so's going, Dratch, like, Dratch is going on vacation and Amy can't, she can do all of the nights except one. And I was like, so I get it.

Speaker 1 And he's like, no, you're going to, she's going to do all the nights except one and you're going to go on one time. And I was like, oh, okay.
But, and then she left to go do the UCB show in New York.

Speaker 1 And then, and then I did main stage

Speaker 1 literally only because she left or I would have been waiting another two years behind her. I was John Glazer's understudy.

Speaker 93 Oh, John Glazer.

Speaker 1 And he is such like a gender neutral in his comedy that I just was like, yeah, you can just step right in. Totally is because it's all just like wonderful weirdness.

Speaker 39 Matt and I both read for a John Glazer assistant party.

Speaker 20 And you both.

Speaker 120 We love you, John.

Speaker 147 He and his wife listen to the podcast.

Speaker 206 Oh, they're the best. Yeah, they're the best.

Speaker 1 I see them at Fire Answers in the selling.

Speaker 284 By the way, I'm actually, I didn't even mean to do this, but I realized I had my merch.

Speaker 1 Fire Island Pines.

Speaker 87 Sorry, sorry, sorry.

Speaker 1 No, we can't. So then I ended up trying to get a writing job at SNL and Adam McKay hired me.
And I started.

Speaker 1 And then, yes, so at some point, I guess after the UCB TV show ended, I was like, but would you ever, but would you ever come over here? Would you ever audition?

Speaker 1 And I feel like it was sort of brokered that she was like, basically like, I am not doing Three Through the Door.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm not, I don't, like, I'm too established to come with my characters and my box of wigs. And so it was some kind of in between, it was more like a camera test.

Speaker 206 Right.

Speaker 1 There was something where it was like, I'm not going to work too hard.

Speaker 93 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Forever the Enneagram eight.

Speaker 94 The challenger. The Enneagram eight?

Speaker 184 What is that one? The Challenger? Yes.

Speaker 117 What are you?

Speaker 31 Do you know you? Three.

Speaker 125 I'm three.

Speaker 147 I think I'm three. What is three again?

Speaker 155 The achiever.

Speaker 134 Oh, now that I know this is a thing, I'm going to become obsessed with it.

Speaker 1 Amy's obsessed with it. Oh, yeah, yeah.
You need to take the test tonight. Okay.

Speaker 55 Oh, Amy's an eight.

Speaker 1 Amy's an eight.

Speaker 158 Is it one through eight?

Speaker 1 It's one through nine. Okay.

Speaker 1 I forget what nine is because I don't know a lot of of nines. It's dangerous.

Speaker 138 What's it called, like your echo for?

Speaker 120 What is it called? A wing. Wing for.
Wing four.

Speaker 101 I think I'm wing four. And I forget what four is, but.

Speaker 121 Oh, this is exciting. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, this is going to take over.

Speaker 132 Do you ever dabble in your astrology?

Speaker 1 I know. I'm a tourist.
I don't believe so much in astrology because it's random, but why, which is, and again, I'm not.

Speaker 1 The Enneagram stuff is because I've been on tour with Amy for the last 17 weekends that we're talking about a lot.

Speaker 1 But I do put more stock in it because it's based on you answer a million questions.

Speaker 120 So it's absolutely right.

Speaker 184 And it's like based on you and what you think and how you react.

Speaker 1 Correct. That's the weird word, qualitative.

Speaker 201 Yeah.

Speaker 151 So with the you and Amy thing, like, would you consider yourselves opposites?

Speaker 1 No, we're not, we're not opposites.

Speaker 197 Yeah.

Speaker 148 But there's not, it presents us that in the comedic duo, which I guess we've been talking about this a lot being this, but like it's funny how you present that in Christianity.

Speaker 204 It's sown as our opposites, right?

Speaker 1 Because it's more like I'm sort of tightly buttoned up and then she's more like little like Austin dartbag, but we're both actually pretty bossy.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I just, to answer your question, like, when did I realize that we're sort of more powerful together?

Speaker 113 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I remember before like Jimmy, I was doing an update with Jimmy and then he left and I was felt very abandoned because I was like, we left.

Speaker 185 Like he left.

Speaker 120 We had a good thing going.

Speaker 1 And I did tests with other people and stuff. And then Lauren was doing that Lauren thing.
He was like, what do you think? Like leaving it sort of up to me.

Speaker 1 And I, there was part of me that was like, oh, God, I think I'm supposed to want to do this by myself. Right.
Like, that's the power move. And, but I was like, but I'm a sketch person.

Speaker 1 I'm not a sketch person.

Speaker 125 You want a partner.

Speaker 1 Right. And at the very like last minute, I remember I was coming back.
This is too much information. I was coming back from a train trip from Washington, D.C.,

Speaker 1 where I had weirdly and presciently taken a photograph for like a cover of, I don't know, what was happening.

Speaker 147 Was this with John McCain thing?

Speaker 67 With John McCain.

Speaker 1 Like in 2000, whatever, but way before 2008.

Speaker 1 And I had to make the decision on the Amtrak ride back. And I called Amy and I was like, would you do me the great honor of being my wife? And then it just worked from there.

Speaker 107 And I think by the time the Globes and the Hillary and sarah of it all it just was like oh people do yeah like us together 100 yeah that's the music to it that that you're asking about yes i mean i just because it feels like again it feels like that thing that always was but there had to be a time when it was decided like oh yeah this feels really good yeah because and i think that's like just feels like this synergistic thing that must have always been right you know what i mean i mean it kind of has been for a long like sharp maybe the credit goes to sharna i mean it sounds like

Speaker 143 it sounds like yeah but like in terms of you guys building up the structure for the show for Russell Slag, like that is interesting to hear about because I feel like with Globes, it was you guys looking at the established structure of like what an award show looks like and then being like, let's go out with mustaches and be like nominees for dog president.

Speaker 94 A movie called

Speaker 120 form breaking.

Speaker 164 Like I was like, I remember just watching, I was with my friends watching that first year of the Globes and just being like, oh my God, this is incredible.

Speaker 146 This was also the joke structure they handed to you guys, which they don't do anymore, which as a woman who dot dot dot in a dot dot dot dot dot dot dog president.

Speaker 122 I love that

Speaker 94 format.

Speaker 191 And I was, I wish they would do that because sometimes they would just like describe it in such a weird way and they're on the actor like

Speaker 122 node.

Speaker 94 Total idiot.

Speaker 124 A total idiot who looks terrible until the end.

Speaker 191 She has who looks terrible even now.

Speaker 194 Yeah.

Speaker 112 Julianne Bourne. Matt Rogers.

Speaker 148 Dog president.

Speaker 184 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, listen, the things I think we knew from, like, I felt that we brought producer brain to the table on Twitter Globes. We were like, front load it.
Yes.

Speaker 67 Don't come out.

Speaker 1 And I've watched other ward shows since where I've been like, oh, no, no, no, my darling.

Speaker 162 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Dude, at the end of like, the Oscars, don't come out at like 10, 50 with a long ass bit.

Speaker 185 No, no.

Speaker 1 Everyone's tired. Everyone who's still in the room has lost.
Yeah.

Speaker 199 Get out of there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, so like front load it. Don't go too long.

Speaker 196 Right.

Speaker 1 Work the room.

Speaker 196 And also literally just like, say who you are and remind people who, how they know you like just i feel like we had just training from s and l of just like watching a million monologues that's a lauren thing of like okay like most times you're gonna be in the cold open monologue and like before update like that's like above the fold in terms of like newspaper stuff it's like it's common sense to us but it's also like things that i guess like people don't think of all the time and that's that's okay but it's also like i feel like the biggest boon of working there is to like see a different version of let's just say like fame every week and then to be like oh

Speaker 89 I can behaviorally adjust myself based on what I'm witnessing.

Speaker 1 You know, which of these paths seems like a good path? And yeah.

Speaker 250 That sounds weird to say, but I don't know.

Speaker 123 So speaking of like the famous of it all, I wonder like you've probably met everyone at this point, but then you're in the Golden Globes room and it's literally like, is there anyone who throws you off?

Speaker 1 That is a great question. I have to say, after so much time at SNL and also just being 53, where you're just like, I don't care.

Speaker 182 Yeah. Right.

Speaker 1 And you've seen like, you've seen so many waves of culture and you're like, guess who used to be a big deal and isn't anymore? Like, whoever you are, it will pass. Right.

Speaker 1 And also having had to go make crazy phone calls and have crazy meetings and be like, like, I've had to do things like, can you call Mariah Carey and ask her for the rights to, you know, this song?

Speaker 1 And like, and once you've done, like,

Speaker 1 I don't know if I can think of a person that I'd be like, you're such a big deal.

Speaker 131 Because even Oprah has been your colleague.

Speaker 94 I

Speaker 125 have met Oprah.

Speaker 94 Yeah.

Speaker 196 I mean, on one of the most iconic.

Speaker 184 So there you go.

Speaker 111 But winning a little Mariah is huge.

Speaker 120 Yeah. Because you got her with Mean Girls and you have her for life.

Speaker 154 She loves Mean Girls. She loves Mean Girls.

Speaker 125 No, and I love her. Wrote a whole song about it.

Speaker 55 One of her best songs.

Speaker 161 Yeah.

Speaker 95 To her.

Speaker 116 She's so obsessed with her with me.

Speaker 284 Do you like the new?

Speaker 129 Do you like the new Renee and Megan sign?

Speaker 94 I love it.

Speaker 28 So it's on Latin too.

Speaker 120 Do you like it? I do it all the time.

Speaker 196 Do you like it?

Speaker 279 Renee is a real one.

Speaker 1 A real star.

Speaker 97 She's a real star.

Speaker 1 She's a real star.

Speaker 214 She came on this podcast then.

Speaker 65 It's like her voice in that movie.

Speaker 94 Were you with the Jimmy Wards?

Speaker 134 I was at the Jimmy Wards. Do you know this? With Brain Wards.

Speaker 1 You were at the Jimmy Wards? There.

Speaker 142 Me, Joel Kim Booster, Brandon Scott Jones.

Speaker 125 We were cruising.

Speaker 124 We were cruising.

Speaker 93 Oh, no.

Speaker 141 We were there.

Speaker 193 And then Renee came out.

Speaker 172 And then Laura Bernante was hosting the whole thing and being like, and just on stage, Laura Bernante thing.

Speaker 5 Like, if I had the confidence of that girl, I would have no problems.

Speaker 237 And it was just, you could tell from that night.

Speaker 117 Yeah, she's a star.

Speaker 174 It was just, and the kid that won was Andrew Barthelden in the Jennifer Lawrence movie, No Hard Feelings.

Speaker 197 Yes, and Evan Hanson, right?

Speaker 125 Yes, Evan Hanson.

Speaker 98 Awesome, big year for the gyms.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, the Jimmies. The Jimmies of the future.

Speaker 182 100%.

Speaker 1 The other thing that I loved about Renee on SNL was her live vocal was

Speaker 199 right up front in that mix. Right up front.

Speaker 172 Right in the zone.

Speaker 207 Totally.

Speaker 1 You could hear it was live.

Speaker 203 Yeah.

Speaker 107 100%.

Speaker 143 She was great vibes and then and then the after part she was like i don't do like big spaces i was like you're so cool

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Speaker 55 I think it's time to move on.

Speaker 131 Shall we move to I don't think so, honey?

Speaker 22 Okay, so this is the segment, Tina, where we take one minute to rant and rave against something in culture.

Speaker 129 And I'm going to get a little specific, and I apologize to you in advance.

Speaker 115 Oh, no. But I think you need to make some changes.

Speaker 134 Oh, God. I know, but don't be scared.

Speaker 101 Okay, okay.

Speaker 55 This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so, honey, about me, I guess.

Speaker 41 Time starts now.

Speaker 210 I don't think so, honey, Bo and Yang, no deodorant in your dressing room.

Speaker 174 Oh, get out.

Speaker 63 Because I think it's like a, it's a staple, right?

Speaker 144 I don't need it.

Speaker 54 You don't need it, babe.

Speaker 146 My thing is like, I needed it.

Speaker 109 And you remember that you have guests.

Speaker 110 And some of them are going to be in that hot little stuffy dressing room and your dressing room is stuffy and i'm turning around and as i said before no not a deodorant in sight in my apartment only axe which i didn't find till this morning i feel like bowen we need to rethink and restock your dressing room with the essentials

Speaker 282 because there's a lot of fancy good whiskey and no deodorants no nothing that's going to actually get us to the end of the day the end of the week

Speaker 220 because it was smelling in there and i apologize to you but you had a lot of men in your in your dressing room last night and 15 seconds it stank by the end of it.

Speaker 281 And I'm telling you, like, I just couldn't believe you didn't have your little essentials.

Speaker 22 You do have a lot of good cologne.

Speaker 187 I do.

Speaker 155 And I did end up better than Axe by seconds.

Speaker 53 Okay, but I'm just saying, like, in terms of the sweat and the antiperspirant, you could be doing better.

Speaker 89 I don't think so. And that's one minute.

Speaker 39 I had Tums available for our friend Dave because he had an upset stomach.

Speaker 89 Yeah.

Speaker 125 I have so many other.

Speaker 147 This is the thing about working at SNL that

Speaker 101 I'm never going to get over.

Speaker 152 You could have had the worst week professionally.

Speaker 143 Not the worst week, but just a rough week professionally.

Speaker 104 Just at the show.

Speaker 137 and then you still have to host your friends and make sure they have ice and get drinks for them I'm like this is the thing that I don't love and then like your aunt and uncle are coming to take them to the party yeah you're like oh it's a light show for me and it's

Speaker 106 I will say I did check myself when like I think it was a couple years ago like a few of us were in your dressing room just like having a time and I think it was like a week where you were having a hard time you came and we were just like

Speaker 150 What do you mean?

Speaker 201 Just because like you don't want to be like, woo!

Speaker 278 Like, come on, get them up on our level when it's like, I am at work still.

Speaker 109 And I do respect that.

Speaker 5 I'm sorry they didn't have deodorant.

Speaker 183 I'll get...

Speaker 63 I just felt bad because I reeked.

Speaker 1 You needed to have a little basket like in a wedding reception ladies' room with like mints.

Speaker 93 Deodorant.

Speaker 121 I have Gruther's Pastilles.

Speaker 5 I'm going to get Mints and Deodorant.

Speaker 220 He does have Gruther's Pastilles.

Speaker 106 Does everyone know where you're going to go?

Speaker 194 Tampons. Pastilles?

Speaker 98 Yeah, and Tampons.

Speaker 85 Yeah, and Tampons.

Speaker 143 Cynthia Rivo gave me Gruthers Pastilles.

Speaker 129 Cynthia Rivo gave him the best singer logo in the world.

Speaker 143 Yeah, it's great.

Speaker 87 IO Deborah, also big, big Grothers Pastilles.

Speaker 139 Big brothers paste.

Speaker 94 Yeah, she had the bed.

Speaker 89 All the greats. Well, I'm sorry.

Speaker 20 I will do my best to.

Speaker 107 I just didn't want to smell so bad.

Speaker 103 That's okay.

Speaker 129 And also, I'm being a little like, I'm erring on the side of caution.

Speaker 107 I don't think it's funny because I got absolutely dragged for the one I did last week, which was people should not be riding Taylor Swift so hard for the private jet usage.

Speaker 134 Because you don't want her to ride commercials.

Speaker 1 I saw that. And you're like, what is she going to fly?

Speaker 100 And like, how about you?

Speaker 56 Is she going to be

Speaker 125 in the Delta Lounge?

Speaker 94 Yeah.

Speaker 150 I'm just teasing everyone, and the girls absolutely dragged me.

Speaker 183 Because I'm harmful.

Speaker 93 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 141 I'm harmful.

Speaker 94 You're the real problem. I'm the real problem.

Speaker 106 Apologize to everyone.

Speaker 10 I've got one.

Speaker 171 Okay, Bo and Yang.

Speaker 85 I might be biting the hand.

Speaker 154 Oh, baby.

Speaker 115 We'll see. This is Bo Yang's Animals, honey.

Speaker 106 His time starts now.

Speaker 173 I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 46 My co-host doing ads for the Tigers Apprentice now streaming on Paramount Plus and naming off the cast list Henry Golding, Greta Lee, Sandra Oh, Michelle Yeo, but no mention of Bo and Yang.

Speaker 157 I normally don't mind,

Speaker 198 but I, it's my own podcast.

Speaker 31 I'm giving Paramount a platform.

Speaker 36 I saw Mean Girls in theaters four times.

Speaker 193 I went to go see Mean Girls in the musical 2024.

Speaker 10 I'm a supporter of Paramount, of CBS, the Viacom.

Speaker 31 I've had many wonderful experiences working with Viacom CBS.

Speaker 89 And I can't even get a damn mention in the ads and the promo material for this movie that I had a great time doing.

Speaker 101 I play Sydney the Rat, the movie where the 12 animals of the Chinese Zodiac team up to fight an evil inn, That's

Speaker 104 go.

Speaker 31 Oh, Michelle Yo plays the villain.

Speaker 141 I mean, five seconds.

Speaker 161 I'm a co-worker with our guest, Tina.

Speaker 193 But Paramount, please put me in the damn credits.

Speaker 220 And that's one minute.

Speaker 115 I personally like to apologize for not improvising in the ad that you were.

Speaker 214 But I don't think, but deadass, you do not know that I was in that movie.

Speaker 201 No, deadass, I do know that you're in the movie, but you know what it's like to do ads.

Speaker 103 And this is sort of a peek behind the curtain.

Speaker 107 It usually happens at the end of a podcast when you just want to leave.

Speaker 204 And so you're like, coming soon to Paramount Plus.

Speaker 70 It's going to be everyone but Bowen. All right, see you later, everybody.

Speaker 124 I just want to say when I love

Speaker 144 for you.

Speaker 157 When I love that for you, came out and we were doing answer.

Speaker 142 I love that for you. I made sure to really make your name an emphatic part of that.

Speaker 164 I just expected better from you.

Speaker 184 I expected better from you.

Speaker 1 It's one of the

Speaker 184 hardest, harshest things.

Speaker 149 Can you imagine if Amy said that to you?

Speaker 190 If your best friend and coming to partner said, I expected better from you on the air.

Speaker 94 Oh my gosh.

Speaker 127 That's rough.

Speaker 166 That's rough. No, I expect better for myself.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 123 And from now on, I will always always say your name.

Speaker 150 I'll sneak your name into projects you're not even in.

Speaker 227 Thank you.

Speaker 109 And then maybe just like, and you have deodorant for me.

Speaker 167 Let's have each other's backs more in the future.

Speaker 72 Because there's a magic here and there's a music here.

Speaker 123 And I've always known it.

Speaker 55 That's an equivalent exchange.

Speaker 1 You're the Tina and Amy of your generation.

Speaker 25 You know what?

Speaker 194 What if?

Speaker 91 Don't, don't. Don't.

Speaker 94 Should we host the Globes?

Speaker 94 By the way, are you passing down the crowd?

Speaker 1 I think you should host the Globes together.

Speaker 143 That room is going to be like, who the fuck are those guys?

Speaker 94 No, no, no.

Speaker 120 They wouldn't tell us that we're going to be two Joe Cois.

Speaker 159 They're like, who?

Speaker 56 No.

Speaker 174 They're like, who is that?

Speaker 1 It would be like, it's Joel Kimbooster.

Speaker 176 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 184 Because that keeps happening to you guys.

Speaker 96 And they'll be like, and Zachary Quinto.

Speaker 1 No, but you really should do it because together are so much more fun.

Speaker 92 I would only do it with someone with you.

Speaker 102 I'm throwing our name in there.

Speaker 123 I was like, yeah, we're going to do it. And Bone was like, no, not the Globes.

Speaker 255 And I was like, well, I think they're back.

Speaker 282 I think now we know they're back.

Speaker 110 You know what I mean? Yeah, they're back.

Speaker 125 Yeah.

Speaker 111 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 199 Are you ready for this?

Speaker 175 I think so. Okay.

Speaker 1 So I will say, I was like, I was kind of sweating this because

Speaker 1 I, you know, again, 53, I have nothing but opinions, right? I have violent opinions about everything, but I'm also constantly afraid of getting in trouble.

Speaker 187 Yeah.

Speaker 117 So do you want to audition some?

Speaker 1 No, I think I'm okay, Ariana, but also like I do have backups if we do it. And you could, you'd be like, no, do a different one.

Speaker 140 If we're like, no, you'll get crucified for that.

Speaker 1 I was thinking about my own fear of crucifixion and it led me to.

Speaker 1 My choice of topic. There you go.
Okay. So, and I may look at my phone because I'm old.

Speaker 84 You have to be out there. This is Tina Faye's.

Speaker 85 I don't don't think so, honey.

Speaker 55 Time starts new.

Speaker 1 I don't think so, honey. Bowen Yang giving his real opinions about movies on this podcast.

Speaker 1 I regret to inform you that you are too famous now, sir.

Speaker 1 What's going to happen? You have a problem with salt burning.

Speaker 1 Quiet luxury.

Speaker 1 Keep it to yourself because what are you going to do when Emerald Fennel calls you about her next project

Speaker 1 where you play Carrie Mulligan's co-worker in the bridal section of Herod's, and then Act Three takes a sexually violent turn and you have to pretend to be surprised by that turn.

Speaker 1 You have to have a clean paper trail, nothing negative. Everything everyone does is amazing, okay?

Speaker 1 You hang out with Ariana and SpongeBob. Now that is your life.

Speaker 1 Okay, and Matt Rogers, I can tell you, you got about one year left, and then you, yes, learn from my mistakes, learn from IO.

Speaker 141 Podcasts are forever.

Speaker 1 Authenticity is dangerous and expensive. I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 94 This is actually, that's what it is.

Speaker 93 And that is so real.

Speaker 141 It's an all-timer.

Speaker 150 And you know, they're starting to come for us, the people that listen to this, and like, they don't say their real opinions.

Speaker 141 And it's like, yeah, I don't think that anyone needs that.

Speaker 56 But they're all sometimes. It gets harder.

Speaker 1 It gets harder.

Speaker 102 I know, I bet it does.

Speaker 4 And then they're also digging through our stuff being like, well, there was a period when they didn't like Taylor Swift.

Speaker 120 Yeah, there was actually a period where they didn't like them.

Speaker 52 So to hear them be so sycophantic now is really crazy.

Speaker 150 They call us boot lickers.

Speaker 210 I'm like, you guys,

Speaker 112 it's a walk doing this.

Speaker 1 And it's a dangerous dance. Yes.
And it's impossible.

Speaker 26 It's really crazy because the fact is we do have strong opinions about almost everything.

Speaker 1 And that's what people want. Want and why it's authentic, but also what do I do when Emerald calls? What are you going to do when, yeah.

Speaker 89 But I personally, and I cannot expect this of everyone.

Speaker 172 If someone's not a fan of one thing that I've done, If someone was like, I didn't love Fire Island, I'll be like, no problem.

Speaker 85 I'll still be in a sketch with you.

Speaker 143 I'll still like take take a meeting.

Speaker 88 You know what I mean?

Speaker 94 Yeah, but if Emerald Finel is, I'll still take a meeting.

Speaker 103 Emerald Finel had gotten on a podcast and absolutely destroyed Fire Island and said, this is bad.

Speaker 123 I didn't get the performances.

Speaker 167 And Emerald Finnell said the words, I don't think Boen Yang is ever pulled it off.

Speaker 63 You would feel crazy.

Speaker 40 I would feel crazy, but I'd be like, that's so.

Speaker 94 I was like, no, but it hurts.

Speaker 154 She's entitled that Emerald.

Speaker 1 That was, I forgot my one note that I didn't get to was I was at the bottom is going to be, I don't, listen. I don't expect you to stand with Dave Chappelle at Good Nights.

Speaker 156 I'm not a monster.

Speaker 1 I'm not crazy, but I do need you to hug Mark Cuban like he is your long-lost father.

Speaker 94 Like Jimmy did.

Speaker 1 And also, why did Jimmy do that? Why was Jimmy hugging Mark Cuban?

Speaker 1 Like they won the Super Bowl together.

Speaker 215 Jimmy was so happy.

Speaker 198 I know, but Jimmy was so nice and he sent me milk bar cookies.

Speaker 1 Well, that's why Jimmy's the best because he's capable of joy.

Speaker 157 Oh my God. No, and we need that.

Speaker 28 And I was, by the way, people are like reading me for like in the Very Give Talk show sketch, like looking agitated and important.

Speaker 147 I was like, no, I was like.

Speaker 1 Playing in the sketch.

Speaker 159 I was playing in this sketch and being like, oh, there's the guests are supposed to be like a little perplexed.

Speaker 171 I was like, you guys.

Speaker 126 But that was fantastic.

Speaker 233 Honestly, though, this is a genuine question.

Speaker 245 How would you do this podcast?

Speaker 201 You know what I mean?

Speaker 150 Like, how, like, if you're us, how would you continue to do this podcast, which started in 2016 when we thought there's no way anyone will ever listen to it even once?

Speaker 123 Yeah.

Speaker 281 And we sort of established this thing of like, we see things, we talk about it, we're honest, we have our little fun with things in the pop culture.

Speaker 150 And then all of a sudden, that does become hard because someone who might be a dear sister to you

Speaker 102 might be

Speaker 1 you guys are thoughtful and gentle and if you say you don't like something it's not just like just to be jerks like you know you obviously were very thoughtful about those movies but it does become a thing where it's like oh right do you want to be people who keep it real and have their podcast forever or do you want to be goddamn movie stars there you go um what if it's the former

Speaker 1 then go then then i think we're going to do

Speaker 1 that but like my like my my trail of mistakes lives behind me like in jacob marley's train like just chains of shame like i from like oh i'll just use this real name from my high school in New York.

Speaker 1 Like, and then hit this person, like, that wasn't even,

Speaker 1 it just, like, I liked their name.

Speaker 182 Like, it's nothing to do with them.

Speaker 208 Yes.

Speaker 1 And then I'm like, that's a level of shit.

Speaker 282 And here they're now going impatient because of what you've done.

Speaker 175 I mean, God forbid.

Speaker 1 And then, like, just, and then like update jokes that you're like, I'll do it.

Speaker 141 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't care.

Speaker 175 And then you're like, oh, right.

Speaker 1 And then, yeah, like, so many kinds of these mistakes that you're like, why did I?

Speaker 125 Right.

Speaker 146 Especially the thing with the IO thing.

Speaker 22 It's like, so someone like JLo is so famous and has been so famous for such a long time that literally everyone in the world has said something probably incredibly positive and negative about her just because that's like a colloquialism almost.

Speaker 150 And so for her to get dragged so much for this, not only do I think it's like uncool, but I'm like, guys, this is not

Speaker 53 a Pandora's box we want to open of let's dig up everything everyone said on the internet page.

Speaker 109 It will be an apocalypse.

Speaker 1 That sketch was like, why'd you say it? That was funny too. That was great.

Speaker 164 They threw that line in in after Friday, after that news broke.

Speaker 99 It was just

Speaker 89 fortuitous or the opposite in terms of like it's Io and JLo being on the same bill for SNL.

Speaker 4 Like, that's the only reason it got.

Speaker 150 Yeah, that's the, but that's like, even that is just like, guys, it's just, I don't think anyone's going to stand by every single thing they've ever said.

Speaker 12 And it is tough.

Speaker 123 And then when a lot of people do start listening, there is a weird rub.

Speaker 103 And so, like, honestly, that I don't think so, honey, comes at a really interesting time because I do doubt it a lot.

Speaker 120 Yeah.

Speaker 281 I catch it all the time.

Speaker 52 And like, I honestly also, sometimes I only ever think, don't take my opinion seriously.

Speaker 202 I'm like a dummy with a podcast.

Speaker 132 Like I'm just trying to have fun with this.

Speaker 140 But people do take it very seriously.

Speaker 143 That's not up to you.

Speaker 273 And that's not up to me.

Speaker 189 And also, like, however, and I've never heard from, I've literally never heard from like an artist or anyone that's done anything out there and said, what you said on your podcast really hurt me.

Speaker 63 Right.

Speaker 109 But like, I don't know.

Speaker 123 If I were to hear that, I would definitely certainly feel bad.

Speaker 230 Right.

Speaker 94 Like, yeah.

Speaker 103 I don't want anyone to feel anything but good after having listened to it, but it is a thing.

Speaker 124 Yeah.

Speaker 20 That was a good impartment.

Speaker 87 You've imparted on us.

Speaker 166 It's been so long since we've been imparted on us.

Speaker 94 We're going to open a window and be imparted in here.

Speaker 194 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 26 To be imparted in this way.

Speaker 125 We needed it.

Speaker 109 Well, this was just a joy and a half.

Speaker 1 Oh, what a delight to talk to you.

Speaker 1 I enjoyed the podcast so much.

Speaker 115 Thank you for even saying that.

Speaker 167 And I just mean like, truly, like, This was wish fulfillment for us, to say the least.

Speaker 131 To even have you here and even know who the hell you are.

Speaker 184 So this is absolute pleasure.

Speaker 67 Oh my gosh. We love you.

Speaker 120 We love you a lot.

Speaker 129 And oh, by the way, get tickets to the show.

Speaker 139 Is it all sold out as well?

Speaker 1 The beacon might be sold out. We have some, we still have a show coming in like Seattle.
Thank you for knowing that. And Portland, there might still be tickets because we have to go back.

Speaker 1 The city froze and we had to cancel the show.

Speaker 1 But everyone who was mad on Twitter, if you couldn't get to the show that still happened, you can, I think you can get tickets. Like we're not, we're doing the right thing.

Speaker 125 So everyone, calm down.

Speaker 174 Calm down. we're doing the right thing.

Speaker 97 Turtle culture operations.

Speaker 94 Calm down, we're doing the right thing. That's just generally footable.

Speaker 1 Um, and then let me see, what else should I be professional about? Oh, yeah, um, Girls Five Ava,

Speaker 1 Meridas Gardino's amazing show. Oh, it's so good.
All three seasons come to Netflix, so you can see Bo and Yang. You can see so many wonderful people.
I believe March 14th.

Speaker 1 I hope I'm right about that. March 14th.

Speaker 200 One of our dearest friends, Matt Whitaker.

Speaker 125 Oh, the best friend.

Speaker 125 I love Matt Whitaker.

Speaker 1 I still text with him sometimes.

Speaker 167 He's a big, we saw Appropriate the other night on Broadway together.

Speaker 139 He's a great theater-going friend.

Speaker 1 Yes, he is great.

Speaker 184 Yes, he sees everything, he sees it all.

Speaker 1 And then Me and Girls 2024.

Speaker 184 Me and Girls 2024.

Speaker 123 My mom and aunt saw it the other night, and their review was this.

Speaker 231 We loved it. You know, it was different because it was a musical.

Speaker 93 Yeah.

Speaker 97 And I said,

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was one of the ones that I was like, oh, I can't do this in all General. I want to be like, I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 1 Little Broadway cunts on TikTok complaining about two lines of Revenge Party when I bring you fucking Renee Rapp.

Speaker 1 I bring you Ali Cravalo, Jaquelle Spivey. This is why we can't have nights.

Speaker 94 Avant fan.

Speaker 133 Avantika. Avantica.
Avantica.

Speaker 214 She showed up to the after party yesterday.

Speaker 143 I was like, she did. I was like, that's fucking, that's her.

Speaker 1 Yeah, when the real, the original movie came out, she wasn't

Speaker 122 boring.

Speaker 161 No, this is.

Speaker 281 See, and I wonder if that's going to happen.

Speaker 132 It's like, now we're going to start watching it and it's going to look like, in terms of fashion, like really dated.

Speaker 123 And I'm going to be like, oh my God, no, it's becoming the clueless of it all.

Speaker 28 Where you watch Clueless Now and you're like, oh, can you imagine why wearing that?

Speaker 109 It's going to be like that so.

Speaker 87 soon.

Speaker 164 No, no, but for me, like the fashions of those movies are like frozen and amber.

Speaker 87 You know what I mean? It's a frozen.

Speaker 132 Right, because they're all back now.

Speaker 109 If you walk out the room looking like Sharon Dean, you'll take the coolest bitch at the party.

Speaker 127 It's not even the loop back around.

Speaker 142 It's just like, oh, that just kind of looks cool in the world of the movie.

Speaker 87 Anyway.

Speaker 121 Okay, we end every episode with the song.

Speaker 217 It's not my fault.

Speaker 56 You can't have a single leave with me.

Speaker 94 Now, who wouldn't want to fall in love with me?

Speaker 141 I'm a movie.

Speaker 238 Interesting. No, I don't know.

Speaker 192 Okay, well, you should be off book. You should be off book.

Speaker 120 Readers.

Speaker 93 Bye.

Speaker 101 Lost Culturatis is the production by Will Farrell's Big Money Players and iHeart Radio podcasts.

Speaker 134 Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang.

Speaker 48 Executive produced by Anna Hosnier and Hans Sani.

Speaker 7 Produced by Becca Ramos.

Speaker 89 Edited and mixed by Doug Babe and Monique Laborde.

Speaker 158 And our music is by Henry Kabirski.

Speaker 252 Hey everybody, it's me, Matt Rogers, letting you know tickets are on sale now to see me on tour.

Speaker 285 The Prince of Christmas tour, that is. I'm doing my whole album, Have You Heard of Christmas, plus a lot more with the whole band all throughout December.

Speaker 53 Go to www.mattrogersofficial.com to see me in a city near you.

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Speaker 69 The cuffing season storm is rolling in with potential heavy clouds of nostalgia for your ex, windstorms from our current situation ship, and some light drivels of you up techs.

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