"A Dárqueness But A Charm" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

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Speaker 5 Oh, I was thinking more cranberry juice or ginger beer, but that works too.

Speaker 45 Well, you know, the iconic rule of culture number 743.

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Speaker 77 Hey everybody, it's me, Matt Rogers, letting you know tickets are on sale now to see me on tour. The Prince of Christmas tour, that is.

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Speaker 52 Oh, I see. My IOI.

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Speaker 52 Wow.

Speaker 42 Las Culture is

Speaker 51 ding-dong. Lost culture is calling.

Speaker 86 Awash in cults.

Speaker 64 Awash.

Speaker 87 I am underwater.

Speaker 35 I'm in the dunking tank of culture.

Speaker 52 First things first.

Speaker 91 Okay. First things.

Speaker 52 I'm the realist first.

Speaker 92 First things first. I'm the realist.

Speaker 93 I want to tell everyone where I am.

Speaker 94 Yes.

Speaker 95 I'm in a hotel in Austin.

Speaker 97 It's the same hotel that the Real House Rogers of Potomac stayed in on their bad trip to Austin. They had a bad series of episodes in Austin and they stayed at this hotel.

Speaker 94 I'm still gagged.

Speaker 99 It was like five episodes last season.

Speaker 35 At that point, I had like fallen off. I was like, I don't like the vibe here.

Speaker 88 Yeah.

Speaker 104 Well, first of all, I'll save it for I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 106 I'm back to I don't think so, honey, Giselle fucking Bryant.

Speaker 107 That fucking lady.

Speaker 109 She definitely tried it this time.

Speaker 97 She tried it.

Speaker 63 Well, in a way that's like a straight-up lie.

Speaker 115 I don't want to get in the muck with these fucking people, but like, feels like you're mucking it up.

Speaker 116 Well, I've been in the muck with Giselle since the beginning.

Speaker 117 You know what I mean?

Speaker 35 Producer Beck is saying, okay, no, but I do.

Speaker 99 Well, yeah, we can all get in the muck, but But, you know, I will make an exception in this case because I'm happy to get back into

Speaker 85 the

Speaker 36 mud pit.

Speaker 21 Well, stay tuned for that one at the end of the episode.

Speaker 122 We're getting in the muck of it all.

Speaker 123 I just hope I'm staying in Mia's bed.

Speaker 115 At least someone I know.

Speaker 124 Do we stand, Mia?

Speaker 125 Can I tell you something, Bowen?

Speaker 98 I can't help it.

Speaker 127 Every time Mia Thornton comes on screen, I'm smiling.

Speaker 91 I'm happy.

Speaker 97 And Jacqueline as well.

Speaker 118 Well, we love Jacqueline.

Speaker 114 I just finished this week's episode.

Speaker 128 I actually haven't seen this week's episode yet.

Speaker 97 So did me do something absolutely absurd.

Speaker 117 Yes.

Speaker 103 And actually in a way that is really deeply painful to her children.

Speaker 94 Oh, no.

Speaker 115 Okay. All right.

Speaker 21 Let me, let me.

Speaker 90 She literally, no, can I just spoil it for you?

Speaker 91 This is what happens.

Speaker 131 She goes, she's with her kids.

Speaker 35 Gordon's about to come and she goes.

Speaker 132 Case, you know how mommy and daddy are getting a divorce?

Speaker 35 And then the kids go, no.

Speaker 115 What?

Speaker 108 She didn't.

Speaker 38 She like saved it for the camera.

Speaker 135 This woman is not like

Speaker 124 tracking anything about her children.

Speaker 9 She doesn't want, she's in the name of protecting their innocence, quote unquote, is like communicating with them in a way that is so

Speaker 137 that is that is bad that I think like will have repercussions in the future.

Speaker 35 And I really, these sweet children, I go, God damn it.

Speaker 113 Your mom is like, your mom is a broken person, obviously, but like for her to, you know, pass this down is really tough to watch.

Speaker 90 Literally while the cameras are rolling i can't stand mia thornton i'm sorry she could never be angie k

Speaker 143 she no she could never be angie no by the way no one could no one no one could ever be a new supreme there's a new supreme there is truly deeply a new supreme let me tell you something as someone who currently has high body tone hair

Speaker 145 I am so happy to have this expression.

Speaker 96 When was the last time we had something at this magnitude?

Speaker 38 Honestly, the last time we may have been given this much of a gift was probably

Speaker 104 receipts proof timeline screenshots salt lake city is just quite simply the best show on television it's one of the best shows ever to be broadcast on television in the under 100 year history of the plot of the medium wow to think it's under 100 years old what are we going to do for the 100th birthday of television we have to throw the party we have to throw the party we will do a list we'll do a countdown salt lake city spoiler alert number one show to ever ever exist high body that's a high body count hair that's a high body count dress this is not high body count hair that's not high body count hair i look like a mother and then for lacy to go okay but you do need the karatas a romantic

Speaker 97 thematique

Speaker 21 oh carry karatas teletique whatever it was i honestly what a perfect episode honestly you never could have known from meredith pitching her bot mitzvah in the very first episode that it would pay off in this way and then meredith calling back security security at the end.

Speaker 146 What are you doing?

Speaker 33 Absolutely.

Speaker 154 Security.

Speaker 51 Oh, my God.

Speaker 155 I can leave.

Speaker 123 I weigh 90 pounds.

Speaker 38 What did she say?

Speaker 155 There was so much happen. The last five minutes.

Speaker 108 I was telling you, you were on a flight, but we were on the group chat.

Speaker 35 The group chat was popping off, being like, oh, my God, this week's episode of Salt Lake is one for the damn books.

Speaker 117 And I was telling you, the last five minutes are peak.

Speaker 115 Yes. Peak.

Speaker 158 To say nothing of Mary

Speaker 140 coming coming late and peeking through the windows.

Speaker 158 I saw a TikTok because, of course, I did, because the true genius artists are really working on TikTok.

Speaker 122 That's really the medium where the true genius artists are working now.

Speaker 159 Truly.

Speaker 141 It was to Taylor Swift's song, I look in people's windows.

Speaker 98 And it was Mary just like

Speaker 161 peeking in.

Speaker 155 I feel like I'm some deranged weirdo.

Speaker 121 God.

Speaker 134 Mary M.

Speaker 120 Cosby is the Taylor Swift of America in a way.

Speaker 96 Did you know that we are the top saved story on Mary's Instagram profile? It's you and I doing our...

Speaker 115 What?

Speaker 98 It's you and I talking about her on the iconic 400.

Speaker 96 We are the first saved story on her Instagram profile, and it says iHeart with an heart emoji.

Speaker 33 iHeart radio with, I think she thinks that we were,

Speaker 94 she clearly doesn't know the minutiae of what the fuck this all is.

Speaker 97 Why would she? She has way more important things to deal with.

Speaker 21 The important and unimportant things in her life are much more important than this podcast.

Speaker 165 I would disagree with that.

Speaker 128 And I would say that she thinks that she thinks that we are iHeartRadio mouthpieces because this is iHeartRadio and a little heart.

Speaker 122 And it's us doing our entire 30 seconds on Maryam Cosby.

Speaker 144 I'm so happy.

Speaker 98 Little does she know we've done a whole episode of this podcast based around her.

Speaker 167 12 Days of Culture when Maryam Cosby took the world stage.

Speaker 168 Day number two.

Speaker 169 Day number two. Day number one was the opening of the first McDonald's.

Speaker 106 Yeah.

Speaker 35 Day number two was Miriam Cause there's six the world stage.

Speaker 106 And then number three was the lane.

Speaker 153 I think five was Jaws Eats the Girls.

Speaker 154 Jaws Eats the Girls.

Speaker 126 12 was when Nintendo World ended.

Speaker 98 I don't remember.

Speaker 129 We'd have to go back and look, but that's, of course, our greatest work.

Speaker 87 I have to ask you, what is the life of a touring singer songster like in the year 2024?

Speaker 115 I am having.

Speaker 97 The best time of my life.

Speaker 21 This is probably my favorite tour I've ever done. The vibes are immaculate between me and the boys, the band.
The audiences are giving everything.

Speaker 97 I just performed in Atlanta.

Speaker 171 I'll perform in, I guess, Austin, actually the night before this comes out.

Speaker 172 So sorry, y'all, if you're in Austin and you missed it.

Speaker 166 But I'll be in Philly and New York and Boston this weekend.

Speaker 173 I'm having the best time.

Speaker 155 And then I felt so stupid, though, Bo, because I put up this Instagram post, which was like these like nice pictures that my friend Doug Krantz took on me in LA Fonda show.

Speaker 97 And I put it up and I was like, I'm having the unequivocal best time of my life, et cetera.

Speaker 128 And then someone posted below it, is this an Eras tour thing?

Speaker 174 And I was like, oh, God,

Speaker 122 not me posting in the same tenor as Taylor Swift on the finale of the Eras Tour.

Speaker 21 I promise I'm self-aware about this whole thing.

Speaker 104 Wait, I don't understand what the person was trying to call out, though.

Speaker 155 Like, just being like, they were like, this is such an Eras tour post.

Speaker 21 And I had to sit back and laugh because I was like, wow.

Speaker 176 I gave a Swifty in caption.

Speaker 177 You know how she does, how she gets on, and she's like, Totally.

Speaker 108 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 51 But I'm also,

Speaker 105 I don't know how much she owns the concept of posting a carousel of photos from your show.

Speaker 178 No, she doesn't.

Speaker 128 But someone said that. It just made me laugh.

Speaker 98 That's all I was saying.

Speaker 118 Of course. I have no sense of humor.

Speaker 125 I'm in my bag, as it were.

Speaker 95 I'm having the best time.

Speaker 97 Please come out to the show. I really am having the best time.

Speaker 102 By the way, everyone, first of all, Slay,

Speaker 118 you are so lucky to be able to see this man perform.

Speaker 167 I love this slutty Christmas Fiero look.

Speaker 172 I literally texted Michael Fisher.

Speaker 70 I said, I want to be like slutty Christmas Fiero.

Speaker 97 I think that would be a fun reference for everything that's going on in the culture.

Speaker 19 And,

Speaker 97 you know, it being the Prince of Christmas tour, it felt like synergy.

Speaker 179 And he came through like he always does.

Speaker 97 Shout out to Michael Fisher and Brody.

Speaker 122 I feel very slutty Christmas Fiero.

Speaker 169 And slutty white pant Fiero, which is a very important Broadway stage version visual.

Speaker 127 It's a throwback.

Speaker 125 It's a nod.

Speaker 158 Speaking of Wicked, which I saw a third time last night, I took the band to go see what was going on.

Speaker 85 Oh my God.

Speaker 180 Henry Debersky's first time seeing it.

Speaker 38 No, he had seen it before.

Speaker 97 Ethan had seen it before, but it was my bassist Jordan Richards' first time seeing it.

Speaker 21 And my drummer, Derek Swink, he had seen it before.

Speaker 51 Derek Swink?

Speaker 83 Yes.

Speaker 181 Iconic

Speaker 181 name. Iconic drummer.

Speaker 115 Father of one rider.

Speaker 38 And he is now an, he's like, he was saying, I'm now an Ariana Grande super fan.

Speaker 144 He was like, I think she can do anything.

Speaker 125 I was like, well, she can.

Speaker 51 And

Speaker 164 congrats to you.

Speaker 21 You're in a Golden Globe nominated film.

Speaker 70 Ariana, Cynthia, congrats on your nominations.

Speaker 96 Everybody, I mean, this is an awards juggernaut, Bo.

Speaker 121 It is

Speaker 107 incredibly cool to see these people get the recognition.

Speaker 35 I will not be going to the Golden Globes, unfortunately.

Speaker 125 Bummer. Why?

Speaker 38 I am protecting this Japan trip at all costs oh no no no you should you you must go to japan i'm not no there's i i love the globes

Speaker 116 no you've been before question mark i went when it was the hfpa days now that we're in a post hfpa time and last year's globes were such a smash yeah they were great and nikki is gonna be fantastic nikki will be so they picked the right person oh some of our friends are writing for it i think oh great yeah but i will unfortunately not even though i mean should i i don't know no Bowen you should go to

Speaker 184 well tell everyone what you're doing tell everyone what you're gonna do I'm going to Japan on New Year's Day for two weeks a little under two weeks it's my number one bucket list place I'm splurging the house down I need this trip for you deserve it thank you I you absolutely should go I mean listen the first of all by the way Bowen I think you're gonna have many golden globes invitations in your future and other other cool things that you know these are just fun nights of course you've done a lot of celebrating Wicked.

Speaker 97 You've done a lot of celebrating of everyone's work.

Speaker 188 And I think everyone knows how excited and how

Speaker 166 grateful you are to be a part of it.

Speaker 21 And you also contributed so much to it already.

Speaker 97 You don't need to be there. You can go to Japan and have a fucking time at Tokyo Disney Sea.

Speaker 165 I looked it up. It's hard to do both parks in the same day.

Speaker 167 And I think I only have one day.

Speaker 7 Should I do Disney Sea or Disneyland?

Speaker 97 Well, we could go through the rides and attractions later off air and talk about which ones I think would be best for you.

Speaker 115 I don't know.

Speaker 21 But I don't know. That's a really tough question.

Speaker 38 Think about this, though.

Speaker 166 You can go to Disneyland any in the world, anywhere in the world.

Speaker 96 You can't really do the Disney Sea thing in the world.

Speaker 166 But that's like a state-of-the-art, innovative thing that only they have.

Speaker 21 And when are you going back?

Speaker 89 I think

Speaker 100 very often.

Speaker 189 Okay.

Speaker 154 If I have my drothers.

Speaker 21 Well, we'll prepare for the drothering of just the one trip.

Speaker 97 But anyway, we can get into that after because I do want to help you. I want to help you do with that.

Speaker 131 And I have a trip to pitch you for the spring.

Speaker 97 Okay. Does it rhyme with Schmerlin?

Speaker 106 Yes.

Speaker 43 Period. Period.

Speaker 97 Oh, you know I'm interestant.

Speaker 43 Okay.

Speaker 97 Wait, can we just speak on the Golden Globes nominations for a second?

Speaker 125 Because

Speaker 38 they came out today.

Speaker 97 And I just want to say one thing, because I feel like we have not given the shine to one particular performer who fucking deserves it.

Speaker 167 Mikey Madison.

Speaker 84 No.

Speaker 38 Well, Mikey Madison, I think, is a superstar.

Speaker 87 We've given her the shine. We've given her the shine.

Speaker 21 I love Honora.

Speaker 38 And by the way, I'm super excited to see all these nominations and all this love for Yora Borisov, who is in the movie. He was fantastic.

Speaker 97 And the way he held the space with her in that last scene, their chemistry, it's not easy to just give like a tender, open, available performance like that.

Speaker 125 It's also a real, genuine feat in casting, which I think that movie deserves a casting Oscar, which I keep saying every year in and year in and year out, there should be a casting Oscar because of movies like Anora.

Speaker 51 Brilliant.

Speaker 140 By the way, Sebastian Cannelli, our friend, is in Anora.

Speaker 38 He plays the bad tow truck.

Speaker 144 The tow truck guy at the end who gets into it.

Speaker 38 This is why this movie needs a casting Oscar because they find the right actors from the right random places, bring them in and like create this ensemble, which is so real and memorable, to say nothing of all the dancers in that movie are all extremely well cast.

Speaker 115 Like, moi.

Speaker 38 And to find like Mikey Madison, who's been doing great work, et cetera.

Speaker 21 And now she gets this part.

Speaker 151 Now she's going to be a superstar.

Speaker 193 She's also slaying red carpets, crushing them.

Speaker 180 Amazing. Amazing person.

Speaker 123 But what amazing person.

Speaker 97 But what I want to say and who I want to shout out is Kristen fucking Miliatti.

Speaker 140 Kristen Miliadi on the Penguin is giving one of the best, not only one of the best performances of the year, obviously, but one of the best performances in like.

Speaker 97 DC Batman history up there with Heath, Joaquin, Michelle Pfeiffer.

Speaker 85 Like she is truly crushing this role.

Speaker 115 Like, superior.

Speaker 47 So, so dangerous, and yet, like, emotional, and fun, and surprising, and like all the things.

Speaker 144 Like, Kristen Miliadi, every single time she's in anything, like, gives a stunning performance and is memorable and is just also a cool person.

Speaker 151 And I hope she wins.

Speaker 21 She's up there with like legends.

Speaker 182 She's in that category with like Jodi Foster, Kate Blanchard, Kate Winslet, like Naomi Watts, Naomi, don't forget to say that.

Speaker 51 Sophia Bergara.

Speaker 155 And I hope she takes it.

Speaker 122 I really hope she takes it.

Speaker 162 Yeah.

Speaker 104 God, I'm behind.

Speaker 86 But this is behind on watching things.

Speaker 118 Yes, yes, but this is this is classic tale is oldest time for me.

Speaker 154 It's hard, but this is why I treasure these episodes where you give me the download.

Speaker 97 I'm really just saying like that is a performance that is worth saying recognition, yes, with full chest.

Speaker 101 And then, you know, outside of that, like kind of was the usual suspects although they're very globesy it was a little bit like okay like parade to the famous people totally let's see what else is there in the culture this might y'all are rkpfs my this might be a quick one might be a quick little episode you know okay not super quick but i'm just saying like

Speaker 97 Bo wants to get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 99 No, it's just we've both got busy days.

Speaker 68 What are you doing today?

Speaker 80 We have a call.

Speaker 91 Oh, right, right, right.

Speaker 154 I have to go do VO.

Speaker 9 I have to go to pitch and then figure out my week.

Speaker 35 Oh, right. And then I have to go to a benefit tonight that the one, the only Carrie Mulligan and Mumford and Sons are hosting.

Speaker 118 They host this every year, the Was Sale through their charity work.

Speaker 168 Forgive me.

Speaker 97 Is there a connection between Carrie Mulligan and Mumford and Sons?

Speaker 76 Is she married to one of them?

Speaker 104 She's married to.

Speaker 88 Oh, okay.

Speaker 35 Oh, she's married to Marcus Mumford.

Speaker 192 She's worried.

Speaker 172 So she's Carrie Mumford?

Speaker 196 She's Carrie Mumford.

Speaker 21 That would make her even more British to me.

Speaker 35 Well, oh, then Mulligan's a pretty British name.

Speaker 122 But there's something about Carrie Mumford, which is even more British.

Speaker 144 You can hear it.

Speaker 94 She would immediately get dame status if she were to change her name to her legal married name of Mumford.

Speaker 97 Carrie Mumford, she'd become Dame Carrie Mumford.

Speaker 117 You think her keeping her own name is what's keeping her from the damehood?

Speaker 38 No, I'm just saying that she would immediately elevate, like, I feel like Carrie Mumford, there's something about it that says dame to me.

Speaker 111 Carrie Mulligan is also a dame.

Speaker 122 She might just have to wait a little bit longer than Carrie Mumford.

Speaker 106 I feel like Marcus Mumford, great.

Speaker 138 Carrie Mulligan, the first time I heard that name,

Speaker 118 I was like, well, whoever this fucking person is, I see my friend.

Speaker 35 Best believe I went to go see an education by myself.

Speaker 125 in college.

Speaker 21 You know, I remember you being very affected by an education.

Speaker 97 In fact, I remember when you made your Instagram bio, I am as pretty as Carrie Mulligan.

Speaker 33 Please confirm.

Speaker 167 She's, I've always adored this person.

Speaker 113 So I just had a busy day.

Speaker 99 That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 148 That's all I'm saying. But I don't want to truncate this episode.

Speaker 120 I love spending time with you, of course.

Speaker 164 Yes, clearly.

Speaker 136 So

Speaker 189 what else is in the culture?

Speaker 125 I'm asked.

Speaker 154 Let's talk about the shooter, please.

Speaker 189 You want to talk about the shooter?

Speaker 20 Hello, everyone. This is Matt.

Speaker 21 Just jumping in here quickly to say that we recorded this episode and then

Speaker 38 about an hour later, they did catch the shooter.

Speaker 160 Yeah, so this episode is going to be a little bit of a time capsule to a time when we did not know who this person is and the internet was not absolutely flooded with commentary about him.

Speaker 84 So enjoy a trip back into time.

Speaker 35 Just incredible. The Monopoly Money in the Backpack.

Speaker 155 Oh, yeah. What was that about?

Speaker 199 He's just like

Speaker 148 pranking and trolling the cops.

Speaker 180 Yeah. It's amazing.

Speaker 113 It's incredible.

Speaker 169 It's also so fucking bleak that NYPD is basically like the third biggest army in the world and cannot track down a killer, call a spade a spade.

Speaker 116 Shooter has killed someone with an unusual weapon

Speaker 35 and a silencer that is meant to kill livestock.

Speaker 134 That is meant to kill pigs specifically, which is also another poetic layer to this.

Speaker 125 And they can't find him? Makes Makes you think.

Speaker 42 Is this the conspiracy episode?

Speaker 201 Jesus Christ.

Speaker 117 Apparently they've found someone in Pennsylvania with ammunition and fake IDs that matched the description of the shooter.

Speaker 202 And they are questioning him now.

Speaker 121 But I mean, for basically six days as of this recording, like

Speaker 119 this, this guy just hopped on a bus at the Port Authority.

Speaker 104 It's amazing.

Speaker 192 Damn. Damn.

Speaker 97 Well, the Port Authority is incredibly hard to navigate.

Speaker 38 Like even people that really are from New York, like, you get why even NYPD is like, now wait, where am I going?

Speaker 155 Because the Port Authority is tough.

Speaker 130 The signage.

Speaker 88 Ooh.

Speaker 78 The signage.

Speaker 21 It's all just very confusing.

Speaker 38 You know,

Speaker 169 he does look a little bit like Chalamet.

Speaker 132 Shalamay, yes.

Speaker 113 I feel like he has this Sebastian Stan quality to him.

Speaker 104 You know, from that angle, just a darkness but a charm, much like Sebastian.

Speaker 69 A darkness but but a charm.

Speaker 85 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 172 Darkness but a charm is title of app.

Speaker 126 A darkness but a charm.

Speaker 127 Dot, dot, dot.

Speaker 162 Dot dot dot.

Speaker 84 Two questions. What are you doing right now?

Speaker 175 And why aren't you on a Virgin Voyages Caribbean cruise?

Speaker 40 Well, obviously you were listening to us.

Speaker 39 Smart use of your time.

Speaker 3 True.

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Speaker 61 Very true.

Speaker 204 This gives me an idea.

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Speaker 7 First, cruise dining.

Speaker 2 Do you prefer a buffet or a curated dining experience with access to 20 distinct restaurants?

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Speaker 147 Second question.

Speaker 185 Would you rather have an overstuffed itinerary or the freedom to explore stunning?

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Speaker 6 The cruises are kid-free.

Speaker 18 From sunrise yoga to late-night cocktails, every moment is made for grown-up fun.

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Speaker 216 Virgin even has their own private beach club in Biveny.

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Speaker 2 Private terrace, ocean views, and their signature red red hammock just waiting for you to swing.

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Speaker 100 Okay, let's talk about Eras Tora.

Speaker 120 It's the end of an eras.

Speaker 21 Did you watch any of it?

Speaker 120 I watched her final bow and the speech that she gave at the end, which was very, very touching, very beautiful.

Speaker 21 Yeah, no announcement.

Speaker 178 No reputation TV announcement.

Speaker 172 No Taylor Swift TV announcement.

Speaker 97 I thought, because I was watching the surprise songs and when she started with a place in this world, I was like, oh, here we go. It's happening.

Speaker 97 I was like, we're going to see it matched up with something from rep.

Speaker 21 Then she went another way.

Speaker 166 It was kind of cool how in the acoustic section, she was able to pretty much like get all of the eras in there.

Speaker 152 I loved New Year's Day.

Speaker 196 New Year's Day.

Speaker 201 The ending on the manuscript with the story isn't mine anymore.

Speaker 97 I was like, Jared actually, I was texting it with Jared and he said in all caps, she's going to end on, but the story isn't mine anymore.

Speaker 86 Watch. And then she did.

Speaker 97 True Taylor Swift seer, Jared Frieder.

Speaker 35 Prognosticator, Jared Frieder.

Speaker 183 He holds that title well.

Speaker 97 Yeah, he did it. He did it on that one.

Speaker 21 I don't know. I guess, and now the re-releases are stretched into the new year and something we did not think would happen.

Speaker 213 No, reflections on the Aeros tour, reflections on

Speaker 117 maybe probably the,

Speaker 167 I can't imagine this getting replicated anytime soon.

Speaker 178 No, I actually was wondering, I was like, how does she, what does her next tour look like?

Speaker 63 Like, does she just tour an album again? Like, it, like, it

Speaker 33 was

Speaker 125 actually something she in her mind.

Speaker 114 Totally.

Speaker 184 Does she do like a Lover Fest-esque thing where she does like a few cities, but many dates?

Speaker 35 But then does that feel like not even as expansive nearly as expansive as era's tour

Speaker 155 you know when you say that like lover fest that makes me feel like what if she did do her own like three-day festival she could do that like she's in industry enough where she could like do a coachella all of her own where it's like she had opening acts on each day for three days and then came out like and did three shows in a row and it was like That seems to me like the next way someone like as like industrial and as, you know, prolific as her, like that she could do something like that, because that community would absolutely descend on Indio.

Speaker 103 Totally, but it feels like, I mean, how many people ended up being, what was the total sort of like reach or

Speaker 121 sales?

Speaker 99 I know it's 2 billion, but it's like, how many people ended up seeing her? How many people ended up seeing her totem?

Speaker 113 I'm like, how, like, does she want to outdo that?

Speaker 33 But in like that sort of like festival format, it's, it's interesting.

Speaker 9 She has a lot of ways to go.

Speaker 132 and um i just i think she would do the festival like in multiple locations yeah and travel with that but not be quite as like um i don't know like three dates here three dates here like you know something something with a different flavor flavor flavorful new festival touring what if album 12 was called flavorful oh my god the flavorful era

Speaker 187 I've been thinking for a very long time about flavors and how my favorite favorite flavor could not be narrowed down to just one.

Speaker 175 I love the cherry flavor.

Speaker 125 I even love grape.

Speaker 94 And no one likes grape.

Speaker 128 When someone, can I, let me stop everything right now.

Speaker 38 When someone's favorite flavor is grape.

Speaker 21 What? What do you do?

Speaker 38 Run for the hills. They're the killer.

Speaker 70 They are the, they're the CEO killer.

Speaker 153 Trust me.

Speaker 21 When they find the CEO killer and they interrogate him and they slam their hands down on the table with their two palms like this,

Speaker 38 and they say, what's your favorite flavor?

Speaker 170 He's going to say, grape.

Speaker 143 Grape, okay?

Speaker 178 okay and they're gonna be like you sick fuck go to the chair go to the chair fry him fry this grape lover

Speaker 154 fry this grape lover

Speaker 51 hold on now let's back up the flavors tour

Speaker 101 what flavor is each arrow go oh my god this is so fun okay um debut

Speaker 9 is vanilla

Speaker 104 um no i love vanilla

Speaker 63 oh i did not mean to i I love vanilla.

Speaker 128 I get very excited about vanilla.

Speaker 98 I order it often.

Speaker 89 I mean, okay.

Speaker 113 These, these are all like first thought.

Speaker 10 I don't know, I'm shooting from the hip.

Speaker 117 Fearless, like a honey,

Speaker 106 yeah, like a little honey yogurt with some chia seed.

Speaker 10 Yum.

Speaker 33 And then

Speaker 135 yummers.

Speaker 7 And then speak now, I'm going to say, is like

Speaker 114 a gold leaf berry cheesecake.

Speaker 84 Wow.

Speaker 38 You're being very artisanal about this.

Speaker 136 And then continue to be so.

Speaker 43 Thank you.

Speaker 107 Bread.

Speaker 137 Oh, well, that's got to be.

Speaker 51 Cherry.

Speaker 51 Cherry or

Speaker 124 cherry or like a cinnamon spiced

Speaker 121 latte.

Speaker 178 100%.

Speaker 202 Nutmeg.

Speaker 87 And then 1989, well, that has to be.

Speaker 115 Cotton candy flavor.

Speaker 35 Cotton candy flavor,

Speaker 5 or like cotton candy dreams, cotton candy dreams.

Speaker 29 Um, that's good.

Speaker 115 Yeah, cotton candy.

Speaker 106 Reputation, ooh, that's gonna be black licorice.

Speaker 85 Ooh, bitch.

Speaker 114 Polarizing.

Speaker 191 Yes, especially at first.

Speaker 52 Swedish.

Speaker 73 Especially at first.

Speaker 10 Of course, sort of European and, you know, thick and sugary.

Speaker 51 Darka. Darka.

Speaker 193 D-A.

Speaker 153 D-A with an apostrophe over it like tar.

Speaker 85 R-Q-U-Q-E.

Speaker 140 And that's the way we're going to spell dark in the title of this episode.

Speaker 35 Darkness. What was it?

Speaker 87 Darkness?

Speaker 97 It was something. A darkness and a charm.

Speaker 106 A darkness and a charm.

Speaker 137 D-Apostrophe A-R-Q-U-E-N-E-S-S.

Speaker 115 Yeah.

Speaker 130 And that's on Lost Cult Spelling.

Speaker 162 Yeah.

Speaker 162 Okay, continue.

Speaker 115 Can you?

Speaker 106 Okay, so now you are in the lover era.

Speaker 183 In the lover era.

Speaker 9 Well, that's cotton candy dreams to me.

Speaker 91 I know.

Speaker 38 Can you go back to 1989 and give it another one?

Speaker 178 I shouldn't have interrupted you.

Speaker 141 I should have fucked up.

Speaker 101 No, no, no.

Speaker 114 You're okay, girl.

Speaker 202 I'm going to say 1989 is

Speaker 121 Blue Gatorade.

Speaker 192 Holy fuck.

Speaker 51 Hatorade.

Speaker 183 No, no, no. I love Blue Gatorade.
Oh, are you?

Speaker 136 You do a lot.

Speaker 96 Did you ever go to a football game in high school and put a little vodka in your Blue Gatorade?

Speaker 118 Honey, the cops are coming to your Austin hotel room.

Speaker 115 Arrest this man.

Speaker 144 We think he had too much fun in high school.

Speaker 52 Two hands down on the table.

Speaker 155 Tasha flavor. Blue catered it with a little vodka.

Speaker 115 You sick fuck.

Speaker 188 Send him to the chair.

Speaker 187 But kiss me first.

Speaker 108 Wait.

Speaker 148 It's no.

Speaker 117 This is the final 1989 flavor.

Speaker 100 This is the flavor that I'm going to lock in.

Speaker 162 Give it.

Speaker 121 Diet Coke.

Speaker 124 Crisp, clean,

Speaker 121 sharp flavor and perfect.

Speaker 119 It's like you could listen to it every day.

Speaker 169 You could taste it. I could have it every day.

Speaker 21 Can I tell you something before you say the rest of your flavors?

Speaker 125 Last night at Wicked in Austin, Texas, where everything, and let me stress this, is bigger.

Speaker 86 I had, I ordered a large Slurpee as I'm wont to do.

Speaker 173 It was bigger than my head.

Speaker 164 I swear to you,

Speaker 159 the Coke Slurpee was this big.

Speaker 38 I am literally, I'm literally doing it.

Speaker 89 I'm shaking.

Speaker 159 It was, and okay, Bowen, so was I because I was a little get this stone.

Speaker 97 I got a 10 milligram edible for the, for the film.

Speaker 21 I had never seen Wicked Really High.

Speaker 86 Wizard of Eye took me on a ride.

Speaker 44 I think I cried.

Speaker 98 Again, it's my favorite number.

Speaker 96 I was physically shaking because I drank this huge, had to be,

Speaker 125 had to be 90 ounces.

Speaker 96 of Coke Slurpee to the head so fast because I was so excited during the beginning of the movie that I literally, I was like, am I having an anxiety attack or did I drink my Coke Slipper too fast?

Speaker 125 I was shaking.

Speaker 21 I could feel Jordan and my bass is next to me being like, are you okay?

Speaker 95 I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 I don't think any of that is medically advisable.

Speaker 97 I had to tell myself to calm down.

Speaker 125 I was like, Matt, stop.

Speaker 141 Because then I started to get like, oh my God,

Speaker 21 I think I got too high and drank the Coke Slipper too fast.

Speaker 210 Cause then I was like afraid of the movie. I was like, you've seen it.

Speaker 33 It's also wicked.

Speaker 130 Well, you know what?

Speaker 156 I'm about due for like a, ooh, I got too high moment.

Speaker 99 Well, just in terms of THC, I'm like, whoa,

Speaker 100 like, I need that.

Speaker 33 It honestly was very humbling because I didn't think I could still get there.

Speaker 178 Right. But wow, did I get there?

Speaker 141 I was like, I thought you were.

Speaker 193 Christ.

Speaker 104 I feel like you're a tank usually.

Speaker 99 I am, but I'll tell you who's a bigger tank is that Henry Kaperski character.

Speaker 21 The weed that he and Ethan have, my God.

Speaker 141 I was like, where did you get it?

Speaker 121 That's, that's them being upstate wearing little, you know, beanies or, I don't know, toques.

Speaker 115 They haven't been there in so long. They live in Atlanta.

Speaker 106 but that's the vibe.

Speaker 167 And they can vouch for this for themselves.

Speaker 97 100% they can.

Speaker 136 Okay.

Speaker 35 So they're forever giving up to. Okay.

Speaker 115 So you've corrected it to Diet Coke.

Speaker 33 1989. So cotton candy is lover.

Speaker 166 I totally agree.

Speaker 98 Every time I think of a cotton candy, I think, excuse me, why is it like it's been a long time coming?

Speaker 88 Right.

Speaker 237 It's been a long time coming, but.

Speaker 107 And then folklore, I'm going to say is

Speaker 186 coffee.

Speaker 228 Yeah. Uh,

Speaker 121 this is the thing. Folklore is like

Speaker 35 a summer, summer negroni.

Speaker 43 Ooh,

Speaker 132 something deep, but also kind of open.

Speaker 178 You're never heard of that ice cream flavor.

Speaker 124 Summer negroni, yeah.

Speaker 111 You need to open up an ice cream shop.

Speaker 140 Do you have the bandwidth?

Speaker 51 Yeah, totally.

Speaker 35 I got, you know, that's what the call is later in the day.

Speaker 172 Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're calling about our ice cream shop.

Speaker 35 And then Evertmore is going to be like a holiday.

Speaker 115 Like a holiday.

Speaker 118 Like a hot. Yes.

Speaker 152 Yes.

Speaker 140 Like a dark Christmas stout.

Speaker 113 A dark Christmas stout.

Speaker 203 That's fun.

Speaker 142 Tis the damn season.

Speaker 87 And then

Speaker 134 Midnights, I'm going to say is,

Speaker 85 ooh.

Speaker 21 Is it on the nose for it to be like lavender or something?

Speaker 178 Like, is it on the nose?

Speaker 89 No, no, no, not on the nose.

Speaker 117 I think it's like

Speaker 103 a lavender

Speaker 35 has some dairy in it, magnesium,

Speaker 35 like kind of like concoction, like something you, something you're like, I want to knock the fuck out

Speaker 10 in a healthy way.

Speaker 87 Um,

Speaker 7 but it's midnight, you know.

Speaker 142 She put narcotics into all of her cream,

Speaker 142 and that's why you're sleeping in a dream.

Speaker 88 Ooh.

Speaker 97 Can you talk about tortured poets and what flavor it is?

Speaker 154 Tortured Poets is

Speaker 107 hospital.

Speaker 53 Hospital potato.

Speaker 115 Holy shit. Like a shit.

Speaker 106 Like a hospital.

Speaker 35 No, no, no. Like, like, um...

Speaker 108 Yeah, like.

Speaker 7 Hospital mash.

Speaker 84 Hospital mash?

Speaker 94 I don't agree with this.

Speaker 97 This is the only one I'm going to come out hard against.

Speaker 107 Go.

Speaker 136 What do you want?

Speaker 97 I think tortured poets is like mint chopper chip.

Speaker 33 Oh, interesting.

Speaker 123 Rocky Road because of the road that comes out at the top of the Arist Tour portion.

Speaker 51 Oh, interesting.

Speaker 175 And it was a Rocky Road, the relationship with Maddie Healy.

Speaker 40 You understand?

Speaker 51 Absolutely. I understand.

Speaker 91 And for a fortnight, there we were.

Speaker 70 Which, by the way, suddenly is my favorite song on the album.

Speaker 97 How did it happen?

Speaker 114 That's just Taylor for you.

Speaker 106 Sneaky songwriting.

Speaker 97 Now, my question to you is:

Speaker 97 name the next album and what's the flavor?

Speaker 202 The next era and flavor.

Speaker 4 I think she's going to really

Speaker 167 try to go for like

Speaker 142 Asian.

Speaker 147 Asian Taylor.

Speaker 115 Asian pear?

Speaker 147 Asian pear is the flavor.

Speaker 106 And I think the

Speaker 137 album will be called

Speaker 142 Asian.

Speaker 161 You should take her to Tokyo with you.

Speaker 107 Yes.

Speaker 153 She Taylor never did.

Speaker 115 Yeah, she did. She did Tokyo.

Speaker 38 No, but what I'm saying is she never did Yellowface like these other girls.

Speaker 117 She never race baited

Speaker 165 like these

Speaker 186 other girls.

Speaker 161 She never, she never really went there.

Speaker 154 And now we're in a post-person political, we're in a post-political landscape.

Speaker 51 Post-political landscape.

Speaker 224 No one cares anymore.

Speaker 231 Do yellowface again, girls.

Speaker 163 Who cares?

Speaker 51 Oh, God.

Speaker 125 Come out with your unconditionally performances at the, what, whatever.

Speaker 115 What performance was that?

Speaker 35 That was at the BMAs or the AMAs? That was the AMAs.

Speaker 129 By the way, guess what was confirmed for me?

Speaker 162 What?

Speaker 97 Club 33 is where Katie and Taylor had their falling out.

Speaker 167 Who gave you the confirmation?

Speaker 106 Can you say?

Speaker 96 I cannot say on this microphone, on this beloved, critically acclaimed, widely listened to podcast, how I know, but it was told to me that that is the truth.

Speaker 140 By someone in the dance community.

Speaker 97 I'll say that.

Speaker 44 And then that was the whole sort of crux of the conflict, as we know.

Speaker 33 Interesting, interesting, interesting.

Speaker 125 Again, it's all alleged because me coming on here saying confirmed, like, I know what the fuck I'm talking about.

Speaker 128 I'm just saying it's now come from several different sources who claim to know that definitely something went down with a glass of milk at Club 33.

Speaker 97 There was a breakdown in humor and communication between the two pop stars who were there at the same time. And after that is when the she tried to sabotage an arena tour went down.

Speaker 140 And even if it's not true, it is fun to think about how that happened at Disneyland.

Speaker 126 It's fun to think about.

Speaker 134 Gosh, like

Speaker 164 huge

Speaker 104 world shifting events

Speaker 121 start

Speaker 154 at Club 33.

Speaker 134 And then what I'm trying to say is like, it can happen anywhere.

Speaker 118 It can happen with anything, a glass of milk.

Speaker 184 It can happen with a kind gesture you give to someone, a smile at the grocery store.

Speaker 95 Yes.

Speaker 35 These are wonderful things.

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Speaker 220 It's All's Fair as in All's Fair in Love and War, and she's a divorce attorney.

Speaker 50 Love it.

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Speaker 66 Naomi Watts, Nisi Nash-Betts, Tayana Taylor, and Glenn Close.

Speaker 227 So how does this super lawyer fix her own mess?

Speaker 171 So this series has it all.

Speaker 203 Scandalous secrets, high-stakes courtroom courtroom drama, more shifting alliances than Kim's other shows, some OMG twists, and friendships that rise above it all.

Speaker 86 It's got some unapologetic glam, a work-hard, play-harder lifestyle.

Speaker 68 All's fair, now streaming on Hulu, and on Hulu on Disney Plus for bundle subscribers.

Speaker 30 Terms apply drama guaranteed.

Speaker 228 It's the holiday season and you know what that means?

Speaker 43 Holiday parties.

Speaker 228 She is a total moment.

Speaker 5 And the most interesting person at the party is always the one making Casamigos margs for the group.

Speaker 22 Or the person who showed up with the Casamigos to the party.

Speaker 39 Wait, what about Casamigo's mules?

Speaker 64 Ooh, yes.

Speaker 231 And those little copper cups.

Speaker 180 Or Casamigo's espresso martinis.

Speaker 234 Now that's how you keep the party going.

Speaker 40 Or Casamigo's crayon.

Speaker 58 Totally.

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Speaker 82 Well, you know what they say.

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Speaker 134 You know what?

Speaker 199 I am back on my reading, and Gia Talentino gave her top books of the year.

Speaker 115 Tell us about what they are.

Speaker 105 They are Rejection by Tony Tula Thamudi.

Speaker 167 They are Limitarianism, which is, I forget the author's name, but she's basically writing about how she's making a case for how

Speaker 167 it's a very common sense thing, actually.

Speaker 120 It's like we should just limit wealth. We should limit extreme wealth.

Speaker 118 Rather than eradicate poverty, we should limit wealth.

Speaker 120 Anyway, and then third book is Charlotte Shane.

Speaker 118 She's a sex worker and she's writing about how she fell in love.

Speaker 35 It's very like, it's kind of giving Enora, like how she fell in love with, or like maybe how she fell in love with like one particular person.

Speaker 167 But right now I'm on rejection by Tony Tulitamoody.

Speaker 119 So readable, but like Gia Talentino is saying, is out here saying, this is one of the greats.

Speaker 35 He's written the craziest, most amazing, virtuosic endings to a short story ever.

Speaker 88 ever.

Speaker 132 It's giving fucking Flannery O'Connor, bitch.

Speaker 124 It's giving Raymond Carver, bitch.

Speaker 35 And I'm reading this. I'm going, we all need to be reading this.

Speaker 106 Lost Culture Book Club is in effect.

Speaker 143 Matt, you would love this stuff.

Speaker 118 You would love this.

Speaker 98 It is all about.

Speaker 113 It's called Rejection. It's short stories.

Speaker 35 And the thread is, as you would assume, like moments of modern rejection and how we all see each other as instruments on the internet and not as human beings.

Speaker 35 And how one moment of rupture and rejection will then shape a person's entire worldview going forward. And I'm like, this is, I have not read something this relevant in a long time.

Speaker 100 And I really encourage you all to read it.

Speaker 9 But

Speaker 164 Gia, we stand you. I also...

Speaker 33 She's an iconic 400 member, member of the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 7 Gia did reach out and tell me that the legendary Zadie Smith was personally hurt that she was not on the Iconic 400 and that she doesn't feel like she is cool enough to be on the Iconic 400.

Speaker 106 We are here to say, Zadie, if you're listening, you are a legend for all time.

Speaker 35 You are absolutely in the realm of the iconic 400.

Speaker 113 And we are so sorry that we left you out or if you feel excluded, but you are a fucking genius.

Speaker 157 Zadie Smith, white teeth, more like big legend.

Speaker 183 More like big legend.

Speaker 21 That's actually real culture number eight.

Speaker 115 Zadie Smith.

Speaker 155 Zadie Smith.

Speaker 142 White teeth.

Speaker 51 More like big legend.

Speaker 153 If you appeared on a summer reading list from my middle school,

Speaker 94 well, actually, let me take that back because I can't say that everyone that appeared on my summer reading list and my middle school is a legend.

Speaker 96 But if your name is Zadie Smith, it is.

Speaker 114 Zadie Smith,

Speaker 202 swing time,

Speaker 183 more like

Speaker 149 slay bitch.

Speaker 95 Let me say something, Bo.

Speaker 95 Let me say something to you right now.

Speaker 145 Zadie Smith, on beauty, more like on business.

Speaker 137 Zadie Smith and W,

Speaker 33 more like kiss, kiss.

Speaker 107 We kiss you.

Speaker 94 Zadie Smith, the autograph man, more like the iconic woman.

Speaker 154 God, you're so good at this.

Speaker 115 Zadie Smith, the fraud, more like the sensation.

Speaker 87 Zadie Smith, changing my mind.

Speaker 35 More like making me horny.

Speaker 157 Zadie Smith, the wife of Willisden,

Speaker 115 Like the writer of dreams.

Speaker 121 Period.

Speaker 98 We, I think, made up for it right there.

Speaker 153 Zadie, I hope that you feel as though, even though I can't believe that you think this could validate you any more than

Speaker 153 you are, you are a legend.

Speaker 113 Isn't it ridiculous how you have,

Speaker 106 I mean, these are all finalists.

Speaker 108 This is the thing.

Speaker 101 We don't realize that the finalists,

Speaker 130 sometimes the finalists are, they just want to be in on it.

Speaker 38 And, but there is a place for you.

Speaker 90 You're literally a finalist.

Speaker 98 There's a place

Speaker 85 for us

Speaker 237 somewhere, Z.

Speaker 27 A place

Speaker 186 for us.

Speaker 136 Okay, wait.

Speaker 153 Can you talk about who I'm calling sexy, funny, kind Paul?

Speaker 117 Sexy, funny, kind, Paul.

Speaker 120 Yes.

Speaker 9 This is one of our great talents.

Speaker 35 Paul Mescal, of course.

Speaker 103 What a lovely, lovely man.

Speaker 35 And I wish him nothing but the best for the future.

Speaker 107 He is someone who has always delivered things of devastating beauty.

Speaker 117 And he certainly gave us that in experience and in content and performance and comedy on SNL

Speaker 180 season 50, episode 8.

Speaker 43 Wow.

Speaker 38 I really like the way you said all that.

Speaker 21 What I was thinking as well, in addition, is that he

Speaker 21 looked like he was having fun, which is my note as a viewer to all the hosts.

Speaker 70 It's like, you gotta have fun.

Speaker 50 You gotta have fun.

Speaker 34 Jump in.

Speaker 193 Splash around.

Speaker 233 Splash. Splash.

Speaker 124 I feel like when they're terrified, you can see it.

Speaker 192 Don't say yes to it if you're scared.

Speaker 112 But I don't blame them if they're terrified.

Speaker 51 I don't blame them at all.

Speaker 89 And

Speaker 124 what a fun time. I mean,

Speaker 107 A great show for the guys and the girls.

Speaker 21 Heidi was amazing in this episode, episode, I thought.

Speaker 103 Heidi is

Speaker 115 incredible.

Speaker 153 I really liked when she said, Shabusi, I'm about to show him my Shabusi.

Speaker 99 Shabusi.

Speaker 94 I actually couldn't believe it made it on there.

Speaker 21 It's like, that's when you remember this is on late adult humor.

Speaker 35 Adult humor.

Speaker 168 Shout out to the cast.

Speaker 40 I really love this cast.

Speaker 100 I'm having a love affair with the cast.

Speaker 178 Are you having a good time this year?

Speaker 35 Having a great time this year.

Speaker 236 And Andrew Desmukes, the king you are oh i love andrew dismukes james austin johnson the king chloe feyneman the queen ago wodum the queen sarah sherman you know how i feel about you i still actually feel like no sarah's coming back soon i was gonna say because i took a i the one episode where i was taking a break And like, then I turned around and you booked the legend for the week.

Speaker 115 I was like, I did not mean to do that.

Speaker 38 No, it wasn't anything that you did.

Speaker 70 I was just like, because I remember saying to you then, I was like, we need to book her again, ASAP.

Speaker 97 And so now is the time.

Speaker 91 We need the squirm back.

Speaker 70 Because who more do we want to hear about Salt Lake City then than the squirm?

Speaker 112 No, and then she also has the encyclopedic knowledge to remind us all that Carlton cursed Kyle Richards' computer or something.

Speaker 214 Wait, Sarah, I also heard Sarah's out here claiming that she loved Angie Kay before everyone else.

Speaker 9 That's not true.

Speaker 115 It's not true at all.

Speaker 51 Burn the witch.

Speaker 186 No, no, no.

Speaker 35 It actually is true because Sarah, Celestium, and I were at, Sarah and Celestium were my guests for the Watch What Happens live that I did with Angie Kay.

Speaker 120 It was Angie Kay's first.

Speaker 51 Oh, I remember well.

Speaker 130 Yes.

Speaker 35 And I remember going into that Watch What Happens live thinking, I've told the story a million times, but I was just like, oh, Angie Kay, whatever, sure.

Speaker 87 Yeah.

Speaker 9 But then I went in and was just so utterly charmed.

Speaker 35 Charmed.

Speaker 134 Her, Electra, and Sean.

Speaker 35 I was like, this is a beautiful family.

Speaker 121 And then Sarah, Celeste, and I were like, wait, we stand Angie now.

Speaker 119 And ever since, it's been, we've been only been validated.

Speaker 118 We love you, Angie Kaye, so much.

Speaker 21 Angie, it has been a joy.

Speaker 96 And this, by the way, hasn't, by the way, her being in conflict so intensely with Meredith has not lessened my love for Meredith Marks at all.

Speaker 126 Meredith, thank you for your service.

Speaker 38 We love you. We appreciate you and all the ladies of Salt Lake City.

Speaker 38 It's just that in the totality, while your personal experience may be bad, it is an incredibly enjoyable experience to watch Angie Kay rise.

Speaker 189 I reached out to Andy about it.

Speaker 144 I was like, Andy, have you ever been so blown away by the rise of a housewife?

Speaker 115 And he confirmed he is ecstatic with Angie Kay.

Speaker 33 And he told me, this is an exclusive.

Speaker 153 Andy told me that the rest of the season stays this good and that the finale and the reunion both are, in his words, stellar and deliver.

Speaker 118 That is something that we as an audience did not, I would say, expect given the explosive finale last year.

Speaker 97 I think we're in for something just as good in a different way.

Speaker 178 By the way, can I also say I would invite Brittany back.

Speaker 157 Brittany is trying.

Speaker 47 Brittany is also charging.

Speaker 154 Brittany is good.

Speaker 119 Britney gives you a very specific function on the show.

Speaker 178 Yes.

Speaker 154 She's very good.

Speaker 97 With her high-body count hair.

Speaker 83 She has high body count hair.

Speaker 33 Her TikToks are getting crazy, Becca says.

Speaker 118 In what way, Becca?

Speaker 106 How are you doing?

Speaker 21 Becca, elaborate on how Brittany Bateman's TikToks are getting crazy.

Speaker 27 Okay, I had a couple mic for this.

Speaker 235 Basically, she is a secret theater kid, and she does

Speaker 235 saying she's been just doing these like she's an amazing weekend singing videos like these

Speaker 115 not too much on theater kids let me just warn you right now

Speaker 243 i i am like a closet theater kid for sure um but it's just been crazy people are like girl get off this app stop singing like we don't want to hear you oh no no no don't talk to her don't silence brittany baby

Speaker 107 for you page but the comments are mean it makes me sad no oh see look but she is posting a lot a lot of singing she got a beautiful voice

Speaker 5 I think she's an amazing voice.

Speaker 167 She is one of our great Disney cast members.

Speaker 114 Disney Lake.

Speaker 118 Choose Disney World.

Speaker 10 Choose Orlando.

Speaker 193 That makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 125 Well, she definitely was like truly playing the lead roles, like the ingreneur roles of the Disney girls.

Speaker 38 I just like her because I love anyone who says, I have never been so offended in my life.

Speaker 97 in a tone like that.

Speaker 157 What about me? Hey, you guys, this is crazy. What about me?

Speaker 170 It's funny because she's saying these big statements like, I have never been so offended in my life.

Speaker 126 My life, but this is the registration. I'm like a Disney princess.

Speaker 127 Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 215 I refuse to raise my voice in a way that will harm it.

Speaker 88 Hey,

Speaker 126 I have never been so offended in my life.

Speaker 193 I'm crying.

Speaker 126 You said that I sleep with 10 guys.

Speaker 170 10 guys? I said three.

Speaker 157 Three guys.

Speaker 197 Three guys.

Speaker 35 That did bother me, though.

Speaker 106 And I'm sorry.

Speaker 87 I got to put Bronwyn on the block again.

Speaker 68 You have been coming from Bronwyn.

Speaker 51 Really?

Speaker 93 God, it's like... You're not a Bronwyn fan.

Speaker 104 These tiny tweaks to the truth add up.

Speaker 90 And it is, it is a form of,

Speaker 90 I don't know, like, not to say the word, it is a form of G,

Speaker 168 of gas.

Speaker 97 Gaslighting.

Speaker 129 I'll say it for you.

Speaker 42 She went back to this.

Speaker 51 She did.

Speaker 203 And like for her to immediately fuck over Britney like that in that moment.

Speaker 124 I'm like, see, you think you're being fun and messy, but it's actually like

Speaker 35 it's it's too hyper-aware of the cameras.

Speaker 124 Meanwhile, Angie Kay is perfectly,

Speaker 113 perfectly situated in her awareness.

Speaker 155 All right, here's what I'll say.

Speaker 175 I get calling out Bronwyn for her behavior, which was definitely a little scorched earth.

Speaker 153 Like, fuck it.

Speaker 21 I'm feeling like I'm throwing my hands up.

Speaker 97 I'm just starting fires to start fires.

Speaker 123 But had she not, we would not have gotten Angie Kay getting kicked out by Meredith Sicari.

Speaker 153 We wouldn't have a lot of the stuff.

Speaker 86 We wouldn't have had high body count hair had Bronwyn not made moves in that moment.

Speaker 224 So I don't know.

Speaker 38 Like, was Bron Wynn, was she chaotic evil in that moment?

Speaker 144 Yes.

Speaker 38 Was it net good for the episode? Yes.

Speaker 199 She thinks she's chaotic evil.

Speaker 104 She doesn't have it.

Speaker 127 And

Speaker 35 listen, like, so you know how, like, you can sum up a guy's vibe by saying that he's a helloma lady.

Speaker 199 Like, I think she's a

Speaker 90 take several seats.

Speaker 121 I think that's her.

Speaker 38 She's a white lady saying, she's a white lady saying, take several seats.

Speaker 121 Take several seats. Exactly.

Speaker 126 She did say Woo Child at one point.

Speaker 118 And I go, all right.

Speaker 130 That's enough.

Speaker 51 I don't know. That's quite enough.

Speaker 153 Is Wu Child not something a white woman from Salt Lake can say married to a man named Todd?

Speaker 51 I don't think so.

Speaker 91 Well, I don't know.

Speaker 113 I'm a clean up the dog, Dookie, in your house first before you dip into the vernacular.

Speaker 96 remind me are all her dogs named after breaking bad characters i don't know what show is it

Speaker 86 i there's some show that her first episode we have to find this out bronwyn newport dog names can we just get honestly that should just be the title of episode bronwin newport dog names okay

Speaker 146 Oh, House of Cards.

Speaker 146 They're all house of cards characters.

Speaker 153 Which it's, it's so funny to me.

Speaker 135 Is there not a darkness with no charm there?

Speaker 97 Listen, your charm. I am not a Bronwyn hater.

Speaker 125 I'm actually a Bronwyn fan. I'm a Bronwyn Newport fan.

Speaker 97 I think Bronwyn Newport is exactly the type of real housewife.

Speaker 139 She's here to stay. And she is here to stay.

Speaker 35 And I'm great with that.

Speaker 143 I just.

Speaker 75 She's your villain of the show.

Speaker 40 She's your villain. Absolutely.

Speaker 51 She is.

Speaker 9 She is. And but look,

Speaker 114 that means she's.

Speaker 51 Doing well. Like she.

Speaker 189 That means we got a villain.

Speaker 162 Love it. I love it.

Speaker 140 And Angie Kay in the one spot.

Speaker 118 Look, I'm not out here being a full Bronwyn hater.

Speaker 134 I just, you know, it's like, you know, people feel strong things about these people.

Speaker 35 And I, I, I, I feel like I have an insight into that.

Speaker 114 Like

Speaker 104 however people feel about, it's like SNL cast members.

Speaker 3 It's like we're just comedians.

Speaker 117 You know, I don't know.

Speaker 160 Yeah, these are just housewives.

Speaker 47 You're learning, but, you know, have your opinion.

Speaker 111 That's what makes the world go around.

Speaker 73 Discourse.

Speaker 70 It's actually rule of culture number 31.

Speaker 33 That's what makes the world go around.

Speaker 207 Discourse.

Speaker 132 I got to ask, was there a vibe between you and Jake Shane on Therapus?

Speaker 155 A vibe? Like a sexual vibe?

Speaker 99 I think people have reached out to me and said, they're flirting.

Speaker 86 We had a very brotherly vibe.

Speaker 97 I am extremely warm to him, and I think he'd be a fabulous guest on this podcast.

Speaker 118 He would be a fabulous guest on this podcast. This is my thing.

Speaker 87 So this is a phenomenon now because you even saying that I had to vibe with Sean Evans.

Speaker 10 I'm like, oh,

Speaker 130 what's going on here?

Speaker 35 Like, I think there's a lot of suffusion from the outside in being like, there's a vibe.

Speaker 87 And I'm like, no, there wasn't.

Speaker 132 Same with you and Jake.

Speaker 35 Same with me.

Speaker 99 And I was on Katya's podcast, who's the asshole.

Speaker 35 And everyone's like, there's a vibe.

Speaker 99 And I'm like, no, I think we were just being two gay guys.

Speaker 189 I don't think that.

Speaker 38 In fact, I established pretty quickly up top.

Speaker 21 I was like, because I do feel this way about him. He's like a little brother to me.

Speaker 128 I was like, I see him out here.

Speaker 21 He can't, because of two reasons.

Speaker 98 He can't help it.

Speaker 214 Yeah. And he doesn't know his words, but he does know his heart.

Speaker 52 And I've been seeing him out here.

Speaker 9 He does know his words.

Speaker 102 He's, I, I I find him very smart, very funny.

Speaker 184 And

Speaker 118 he's so interesting.

Speaker 100 I stay on.

Speaker 145 I love Jake.

Speaker 97 I had the best time on that podcast.

Speaker 127 And you should listen to it if you haven't therapists.

Speaker 16 But I told him, I was like, you need to come on Lost Coach because Bone would adore you.

Speaker 35 Oh, I love him. I was supposed to go.

Speaker 117 I was supposed to do it when I was in LA, but I just didn't have time.

Speaker 21 Oh, yeah. It's a must.
You would have a fabulous episode with him, and I can't wait to welcome him to the pod.

Speaker 98 Because allegedly, are you coming to Los Angeles?

Speaker 106 Not until Feb, probably.

Speaker 63 But you are coming in Feb? I think so.

Speaker 172 When is all of the cool SNL stuff happening in February, like the Radio City of it all?

Speaker 114 Is that announced?

Speaker 167 It is February 16th, the week, the week of, so I guess it's the week of February 10th, but then I would have to be back in New York for that week.

Speaker 125 That might be right after I wrap a thing and I might be able to come.

Speaker 117 Could be fun.

Speaker 104 They're not giving us plus ones.

Speaker 136 Oh, okay. Well, I didn't think so.

Speaker 120 Oh, I mean, because it's like, it's literally like a million people.

Speaker 86 No, yeah, of course. Yeah.

Speaker 94 I meant by come, I meant

Speaker 115 come to New York and do my own thing.

Speaker 51 That's what actually I had meant by that.

Speaker 96 I just meant that I could see you like maybe a couple of days after once you're down and everything.

Speaker 125 That's what I had meant when I said that.

Speaker 10 I can't.

Speaker 114 I can't.

Speaker 192 Oh, okay.

Speaker 115 Well, you have my information.

Speaker 88 And,

Speaker 125 you know, I want to pitch to the readers.

Speaker 97 I had an idea to do an entire episode of this podcast, which is as if Bo and I were both

Speaker 154 for the first time.

Speaker 121 Yes, I think that's a great episode.

Speaker 35 And then that's a full like first date vibe.

Speaker 119 Not like romantic date, but it's just like our first time meeting.

Speaker 115 Well, I don't know, Bo.

Speaker 21 You just took it off the table.

Speaker 88 Damn. Oh, my God.

Speaker 101 No way. Well, now we can.

Speaker 115 Wait, you just took it right off the table.

Speaker 51 Well,

Speaker 35 RPEKFs, let us know what you think of that premise.

Speaker 139 I think it could be very fun.

Speaker 115 I think we have to film it.

Speaker 125 Like, I come in and I'm like, hi, it's so nice to meet you finally.

Speaker 44 I've heard the best things.

Speaker 94 I am a fan.

Speaker 172 Or should I come in like and not know you at all? And like, I sit down and it's just like, so tell me what you do.

Speaker 97 And then you tell me you're on SNL and I have to react to that.

Speaker 121 Right.

Speaker 35 And then you tell me about No Good Deed.

Speaker 103 And then I'm like, what was Lisa Kudra like?

Speaker 118 What was

Speaker 88 all the tea?

Speaker 136 I think it could be very funny.

Speaker 123 It comes out tomorrow, you guys.

Speaker 38 If you're listening to this on Wednesday,

Speaker 208 No Good Deed comes out, I guess, tonight at midnight.

Speaker 38 It's going to be so great.

Speaker 111 And I get this.

Speaker 38 So I went to the premiere.

Speaker 140 It was the night of my first show in LA.

Speaker 97 And that was a busy day, but I really wanted to make time to go to the premiere for two reasons. One, I'm so proud of it and wanted to celebrate it.
And two, I found this shirt that I loved.

Speaker 21 I was thrifting with Greta on Melrose.

Speaker 21 And we walked into this place called Lost Days.

Speaker 125 And I found this shirt, this like silk blue shirt with skulls on it.

Speaker 97 And I was like, oh,

Speaker 19 I love this shirt.

Speaker 125 And they were like, come on now, the, get the card out.

Speaker 97 And I said, all right, I think I have somewhere to wear it.

Speaker 166 And I really wanted to wear it.

Speaker 98 And I got to wear it.

Speaker 97 So I was at the premiere and I said to Lisa Kudreau, I said, listen, I don't know if you do podcasts, but if you do, like, Bone and I would absolutely love to have you on the podcast.

Speaker 51 And she goes, okay, yeah.

Speaker 98 In her like Lisa West.

Speaker 51 So Lisa. She's like, oh, yeah, okay, cool.

Speaker 38 Let's do it.

Speaker 85 I was like, oh, yay!

Speaker 115 Yeah, sure.

Speaker 155 Putting it out there.

Speaker 38 And I talked to Linda, who said she was like, you know, I was going to have that be my first podcast, but you were out of town.

Speaker 94 I was like, okay, we'll figure that out too.

Speaker 8 Linda.

Speaker 113 Would it be Linda's first podcast?

Speaker 140 She does. Well, because when we were on set, I know.

Speaker 59 She asked about the podcast.

Speaker 186 She's so nice, by the way.

Speaker 155 Like,

Speaker 115 you know, I actually think out of everyone on the cast, the person I was the most gagged for was Linda.

Speaker 136 Was actually Linda Cartellini.

Speaker 164 Like, I

Speaker 178 told her at the end of shoot when I had, I only have one scene with her.

Speaker 127 It's actually in the first first episode.

Speaker 97 But I told her at the end when we were done, I was like, this was so cool.

Speaker 173 I am such a fan.

Speaker 151 And she was like, stop, like, that, da, da, so kind.

Speaker 97 But she had asked about the podcast and asked about you.

Speaker 38 And she asked when we get started and stuff.

Speaker 70 And I was like, you know, we would love to have you.

Speaker 98 And she was like, well, you know, I don't really do a lot of podcasts.

Speaker 166 And I was like, totally respect that.

Speaker 163 Like, she is the character actress.

Speaker 96 Like, she's just so fucking good, et cetera.

Speaker 152 But she goes, I was going to do the podcast.

Speaker 38 I was actually going to do a podcast for like the first time.

Speaker 98 And I was like, well, we have to make it work.

Speaker 136 So putting that out there as well.

Speaker 164 Putting out their four names.

Speaker 155 Linda Cartellini, Lisa Kudro, Lady Gaga, and Celine Dion.

Speaker 101 And Angie Kay.

Speaker 141 And Angie Kay.

Speaker 126 Should Angie K be the third housewife ever on the pod?

Speaker 194 Yes.

Speaker 158 Should we try to figure that out for next week?

Speaker 162 Yes.

Speaker 38 Angie K virtual episode.

Speaker 96 This is officially a call out.

Speaker 35 We hope it happens.

Speaker 9 If not, no worries, King.

Speaker 177 Becca is on it.

Speaker 115 She just said texting Anna.

Speaker 51 All right.

Speaker 39 Well, obviously, you were listening to us. Smart use of your time.

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Speaker 216 Virgin even has their own private beach club in Biveny.

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Speaker 53 I think it's time for Anna, thanks, Donnie. I think so too.

Speaker 125 Because I think this episode ended up going even longer than Bowen wanted it to go.

Speaker 126 Because he has expressed earlier wanting it to be really short, but then I think he had so much fun with me.

Speaker 51 I did.

Speaker 10 I always love my girl, my sister.

Speaker 141 I'm excited to see you this weekend. I'm going to go.

Speaker 21 Well, I'm going to go to SNL.

Speaker 162 Yes.

Speaker 153 For Gracie. I love Gracie.

Speaker 136 Gracie, congratulations on Eras.

Speaker 51 I love her.

Speaker 93 And all your success.

Speaker 52 Okay.

Speaker 168 Do you want to go first?

Speaker 21 Because we already know what yours is.

Speaker 118 Yeah, I do.

Speaker 138 I do. I do.

Speaker 96 So this is,

Speaker 21 I don't think so, honey, Bowen Yang.

Speaker 97 And by the way, I don't think so, honey, is a one-minute segment where we rail and rant against something in pop culture that we just don't find

Speaker 96 savory.

Speaker 21 And this is Bowen Yang's. I don't think so, honey, is time starts now.

Speaker 104 I don't think so, honey, Giselle Bryant.

Speaker 35 Ooh, I should should have known that you could not have maintained my goodwill, much less the wider, greater goodwill of the people, which is the audience that watches your show, The Real Houses of Potomac, for very long.

Speaker 116 I enjoyed the time we had. I enjoyed this little period.

Speaker 108 But you,

Speaker 137 God,

Speaker 167 having the fucking

Speaker 154 curse of talking to Robin Dixon on the regular and saying actual lies about our friend Joel Kimbooster, actual documented lies.

Speaker 138 And we've seen the receipts and the proof that

Speaker 35 since whatever, there's just proof that you not even like twisted the truth a little bit, you full on made shit up about this whole situation between you and 15 seconds.

Speaker 114 About his fucking genitalia. Like, don't do that.

Speaker 104 Like, I'm not going to talk about your kids.

Speaker 118 I'm not going to talk about your body.

Speaker 130 Don't fucking talk about my friend like that.

Speaker 86 Five seconds.

Speaker 116 You fucking succubus.

Speaker 108 I'll call you that.

Speaker 116 You're a demon from the mouth of hell.

Speaker 236 And I hate you.

Speaker 125 And that's one minute. Certainly interesting for her to go on and on about body shaming and then get on her podcast and talk about the size of someone's penis

Speaker 151 on a television show.

Speaker 164 You are a total loser.

Speaker 121 You're a loser, period.

Speaker 33 Like, get it. I was enjoying her show.

Speaker 113 Me too. And I watched it.
I was like, cut out the Giselle stuff. I don't really care.

Speaker 143 I really don't care.

Speaker 144 How is she allowed to just say that on her podcast?

Speaker 21 Like, no one's going to say anything about that.

Speaker 107 Well, whatever. Like,

Speaker 154 your ugly ass house.

Speaker 116 Enjoy.

Speaker 9 It's not, it's still not finished.

Speaker 97 Yeah, she, she really got on that podcast and actually said those things.

Speaker 108 It's crazy.

Speaker 123 It is completely insane.

Speaker 111 Over a situation that she wasn't even involved in.

Speaker 21 Like that was between Joel and Shannon Bedor, which, you know, maybe it shouldn't have been to begin with, but Joel knows that.

Speaker 148 Everyone knows that.

Speaker 103 And look, like

Speaker 113 everyone is, everyone is going through their own shit, but also like, Giselle, you're lying to your

Speaker 33 loser friends.

Speaker 38 Say one thing and do another.

Speaker 51 And you're lying to your fucking stupid ass friend, Robin Dixon, who could not keep a job on that show because she was bad.

Speaker 88 God.

Speaker 52 Listen. Okay.

Speaker 134 Do you have one?

Speaker 187 Do I have one?

Speaker 186 Yeah.

Speaker 115 Yeah. Okay.
I have one.

Speaker 120 Okay.

Speaker 138 This is Matt Rogers. I don't think Sony's time starts now.

Speaker 38 I don't think so, honey, ravioli.

Speaker 155 The way I always think you're going to be better than you actually are, and you're very easy to fuck up.

Speaker 38 It's extremely easy to overcook ravioli, as I find out, you know, very often.

Speaker 145 And here's the thing.

Speaker 38 I'm not saying I don't think so, honey, the good ravioli.

Speaker 111 If you're the good ravioli out here, I'm not talking to you, you continue to be fabulous.

Speaker 56 What I'm talking about is I don't think so, honey, these raviolis that are a little bit overcooked, and especially when you bite into it and you get that mealy feeling.

Speaker 145 You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 170 I don't think so, so, honey, Ravioli. I trusted you.

Speaker 238 I really opened my heart up to trust.

Speaker 146 I opened my heart up to trust you, Ravioli.

Speaker 96 And then guess what?

Speaker 38 You failed me.

Speaker 56 And also, it's not the first time food has failed me in the past week because here I am in Austin, Texas, and I had a bad taco.

Speaker 33 No.

Speaker 155 Are you serious?

Speaker 157 I'm supposed to come here and eat the good tacos. And I had a bad five seconds.

Speaker 47 Good taco, psych.

Speaker 155 It was a bad taco.

Speaker 145 I don't think it's honey these foods.

Speaker 148 That's one minute.

Speaker 113 You really went into a Britney Bateman there.

Speaker 228 Like, I've never been so offended in my life.

Speaker 125 That's how I talk now that I'm a singer.

Speaker 89 Singer.

Speaker 103 Oh, my God. Bad taco, bad, bad ravioli.

Speaker 107 Well, first of all,

Speaker 91 I like how you backpedaled on that.

Speaker 183 I'm not talking about the good ravioli.

Speaker 242 I'm talking about the bad one.

Speaker 178 Well, I guess it should have been I Don't Think So Honey, a bad ravioli featuring bad taco in Austin.

Speaker 47 No, you know what?

Speaker 145 It should have been I Don't Think So Honey.

Speaker 86 to taco in Austin. That was crazy.

Speaker 38 That was crazy.

Speaker 153 It was a little bit of like expinach and feta.

Speaker 52 And I'm not going to lie.

Speaker 125 I'm not going to lie.

Speaker 38 And can I say something?

Speaker 144 And I want to compliment the Delta Lounge because you know what they've added.

Speaker 115 And I do think this was your power scrambled eggs.

Speaker 197 Scrambled eggs.

Speaker 74 Have you noticed this?

Speaker 105 I have.

Speaker 9 Delta Lounge has been slang lately.

Speaker 111 But I'm just saying.

Speaker 178 The ravioli.

Speaker 74 There was a ravioli moment in the Delta Lounge that I believed.

Speaker 127 I believe the ravioli was a little overcooked.

Speaker 123 And that's as privileged as I'm going to get on this episode.

Speaker 134 I want to say something.

Speaker 156 I want to put out there, bring back meat or protein filled.

Speaker 100 I mean, I guess cheese counts, but I'm saying like, I want meaty ravioli.

Speaker 127 I would like that.

Speaker 136 I want

Speaker 136 to see.

Speaker 154 Yeah, but I want Chef YRD inspired ravioli, red sauce, meat, shards of meat.

Speaker 10 And then

Speaker 10 shards of meat.

Speaker 99 What was the taco?

Speaker 91 What was the taco filling?

Speaker 157 It was just a chicken taco.

Speaker 99 I mean, can I be honest with you?

Speaker 217 The chicken tacos were fine.

Speaker 161 It was the quesadilla, actually, that really disappointed me.

Speaker 40 I was like, wait a second, this amateur hour quesadilla.

Speaker 115 Anyway, I won't say from where.

Speaker 97 I don't want to burn down a business.

Speaker 94 You know, I actually have been really...

Speaker 21 I went to Rainy Street in Austin. I remember the last time I was here, I was like, what the fuck happened to Rainy Street?

Speaker 158 But Rainy Street's kind of back.

Speaker 155 There was live music happening.

Speaker 166 Everywhere was open. The bars seemed popping.

Speaker 21 It had that Austin flavor.

Speaker 97 I'm actually going to my favorite restaurant tonight, which is called Anthem.

Speaker 189 And you know who I'm seeing tonight?

Speaker 158 Chrissy Shackelford.

Speaker 215 Oh my God, Chrissy.

Speaker 7 Wait, she's in her hometown.

Speaker 157 Yes. She gets to dream life.

Speaker 158 She gets to live in the city she loves

Speaker 98 and have her family and also win Emmy after Emmy after Emmy for John Oliver.

Speaker 51 And give,

Speaker 35 if you're lucky on one year, the acceptance speech.

Speaker 134 She gave the acceptance speech for, I think, Emmy's 2021.

Speaker 157 Several years ago, yeah.

Speaker 121 She was

Speaker 113 eight. We love you, Chrissy Shackelford.

Speaker 21 She's the best.

Speaker 97 We used to work together together at the ride.

Speaker 98 She was my favorite person to work at the ride with.

Speaker 127 We met in Story Pirates.

Speaker 111 We would come here to Austin all the time.

Speaker 21 Because I would usually direct those ones and I would put together my dreamcast.

Speaker 125 It was you, Chrissy, Rachel Winitsky, Henry on Keys.

Speaker 134 And then Chrissy would take it, would show us around and take us to bars.

Speaker 117 And then I think she introduced me to Torchy's Tacos before they expanded.

Speaker 33 Wait, were you on the Story Pirates trip where I got in the fight with the taco truck guy?

Speaker 35 I seem to remember. Yes.
Yes.

Speaker 100 I was there.

Speaker 21 This is years and years later.

Speaker 101 Because we went to that bar where we played like Cornhole or something, and then you got to a fight.

Speaker 33 Yeah, I went missing.

Speaker 33 I went missing because I was really in it with the taco truck guy because the taco, I handed the guy a 40, and then he handed me back like $3.

Speaker 33 Yes, I was, and I was like, excuse me, like I gave you a lot more money than this.

Speaker 115 And he was like, I don't know what you're talking about. And

Speaker 94 I remember being really upset because I was like dirt poor at the time.

Speaker 91 No, we didn't have money.

Speaker 178 And I was also drunk and started crying.

Speaker 152 Like, that was, that was giving, that was giving 25 years old.

Speaker 117 We were 25.

Speaker 35 Rachel Winitsky was on that trip too.

Speaker 141 Yes, she was.

Speaker 143 Yes, she was.

Speaker 115 That was

Speaker 178 an iconic trip.

Speaker 35 That's a fun group.

Speaker 152 When we used to perform in College Station.

Speaker 130 Yes, College Station to, oh my God, Texas A ⁇ M.

Speaker 51 Is that what that is?

Speaker 144 I think so.

Speaker 82 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 144 Well, I remember it was like a college campus, and I remember, yeah, I remember putting together like the gayest cast ever to go do our like, and wait, oh, wait, what was that?

Speaker 141 What was this?

Speaker 115 I remember I, there was a story where I came into the audience and saying you came to the audience because you were like the great mother bird and you were like I've said and I played like the bird that was like trying to become a singer or something and then I was not a supportive mother to you.

Speaker 100 I don't know.

Speaker 74 Oh, no, I wanted to be a dancer and you had never been a supportive mother to me.

Speaker 21 And then you came from the crowd and you were like, I just want to see, I want to tell you that I know you're a dancer.

Speaker 238 We need to find that. That was so good.

Speaker 115 And all the kids were like absolutely standing.

Speaker 118 That was a great audience.

Speaker 107 Those kids were a great crowd.

Speaker 100 They were like, they were with it the whole time.

Speaker 94 Yeah. I mean, listen.

Speaker 161 Look for the children.

Speaker 156 Look for the children. Okay.

Speaker 217 Well, yet another lost cult.

Speaker 35 Yet another lost cult. We never fail you.

Speaker 183 Oh, we should announce now we will be taking a little break around Christmas into the new year.

Speaker 155 Yeah.

Speaker 35 We deserve that much.

Speaker 243 So we're going to do an episode next week.

Speaker 111 So what is it?

Speaker 171 December 18th will be our last episode.

Speaker 106 So next week will be our, yes.

Speaker 111 And then we're going to, we'll see you back on January 15th.

Speaker 144 Yes.

Speaker 38 So we're going to give it some nice time off.

Speaker 125 I'm going to finish my tour and then get some, get some rest.

Speaker 21 And Bowen is going to have a fabulous time in Tokyo. But what we're putting out there for next week is that we're going to end the year with Angie Kay.

Speaker 167 That would be so sublime.

Speaker 51 Wow.

Speaker 47 I think it would be sublime.

Speaker 90 We end every episode with a song.

Speaker 52 What will it be today? What will it be today?

Speaker 27 Tis the damn season.

Speaker 237 You could call it anything. You you could call it even for the weekend.

Speaker 237 Tis the damn season, right there sound.

Speaker 186 Staying at my parents' house.

Speaker 237 Heading the roadway out there's real good now.

Speaker 98 Taylor's best Christmas song.

Speaker 186 Bye.

Speaker 53 Lost Culture Readers is the production by Will Farrell's Big Money Players and Night Heart Radio Podcasts.

Speaker 178 Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang.

Speaker 12 Executive produced by Anna Hosnier and Hans Sani.

Speaker 196 Produced by Becca Ramos.

Speaker 53 Edited and mixed by Doug Babe and Monique Laborde.

Speaker 115 And our music is by Henry Komersky.

Speaker 77 Hey, everybody, it's me, Matt Rogers, letting you know tickets are on sale now to see me on tour. The Prince of Christmas tour, that is.

Speaker 77 I'm doing my whole album, Have You Heard of Christmas, plus a lot more, with the whole band, all throughout December.

Speaker 80 Go to www.mattrogersofficial.com to see me in a city near you.

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"All Up In The Macabre" (w/ Sarah Paulson)