“A Friendsgiving Episode” (w/ Matt & Bowen)

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Speaker 36 You ever just stop in the middle of a crazy day and realize, wow, I needed a break.

Speaker 33 It literally happened to me yesterday.

Speaker 38 I cracked open a Diet Coke, sat back for five minutes, total reset.

Speaker 39 Right?

Speaker 42 There's something about the crispy, refreshing taste of an ice-cold Diet Coke.

Speaker 8 It just hits.

Speaker 43 It's my little me moment, like make time for a Diet Coke break, you know?

Speaker 42 Exactly.

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Speaker 58 Hey, everybody, it's me, Matt Rogers, letting you know tickets are on sale now to see me on tour. The Prince of Christmas tour, that is.

Speaker 58 I'm doing my whole album, Have You Heard of Christmas, plus a lot more with the whole band all throughout December.

Speaker 61 Go to www.mattroogersofficial.com to see me in a city near you.

Speaker 33 And now, Los Cult

Speaker 60 drums.

Speaker 22 Look, Matt.

Speaker 22 Oh, I see. My IOI.
Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes.
Goodness. Wow.
Lost Culturistas. Ding-dong.
Lost Culturistas calling.

Speaker 22 This is breaking bread culture. We are breaking absolute ciabata baguette bocaccia tonight.
I'm holding cheers.

Speaker 22 Cheers. It's the friends giving episode of Lost Cult.
How about that? How about that? It's giving friends. You are all invited,

Speaker 22 you know, auditorily.

Speaker 22 Don't come to my house, please. Please.
There's not room.

Speaker 22 It would be too much if you guys all came over.

Speaker 22 One at a time. One at a time, please.
You're invited to

Speaker 22 pull up.

Speaker 22 Face down. Oh, my God.
Not you getting horny. Not you insinuating you like to be stuffed before all this stuff.
Girl. Come on.
I like to be sniffied and sniffed.

Speaker 22 Have you ever gone on sniffies? Oh, of course I've browsed. I'm not.

Speaker 22 I don't have the gumption, the bravery, to the braverism

Speaker 22 to post up on it, to literally post on.

Speaker 22 Yeah, Yeah, I don't, I've never downloaded CNNs. I've never went there.
You know, my snowball. But download it to a website.
Oh, is it a website? Remote

Speaker 22 browsing experience. You were so innocent.
I'm so.

Speaker 22 Yeah, I'm like the young doe. I'm like the young lamb.
Young lamb.

Speaker 22 So in a short. A female deer.

Speaker 62 A female D.

Speaker 22 Wait, that would be a good rendition. Yes.

Speaker 62 Doe, a deer, a female deer.

Speaker 22 Yes. But isn't that kind of...
No, it's not beside the point because doe is still the like doe re mifa.

Speaker 22 What are you trying to get at? What I'm trying to get at is if you sort of did alterations with that melody, it was sort of like... No, as long as you hit the doe, as long as you hit each first.

Speaker 22 Exactly. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Don't worry. Please take the liberty.
Doe a damn. Yes.
I'm so happy this is now music theory podcast. Oh my God.

Speaker 22 What's your experience of music theory? That shit is hard. I don't know how y'all memorize the circle of fifths, you know, musical

Speaker 22 music theory girls. It's actually something I never thought I would be able to understand.
And now I'm in my, I'm in three times a week vocal lessons getting ready for this week. Can't hear it.

Speaker 22 And

Speaker 22 I'm now understanding. Oh, it's just about like, it's just something to learn.
It's something to learn. It's math.
It's something to have at the back of your head. Right.

Speaker 22 Do you think you could develop perfect pitch? I think you could hear a tone and then call it out. I'd be like, that's an A sharp.

Speaker 22 You definitely could. No.

Speaker 22 You definitely could. I can call an A just because I grew up with one of my only toys as a young cable-less child was the metronome, you see.
So you're just playing around with the metronome.

Speaker 22 Hey,

Speaker 22 was that May?

Speaker 22 I think that's an A. Readers, Katie's Pumpkins, the finalists, perfect pictures.
For anyone to have perfect picture, you're a finalists. Absolutely.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 22 You know, speaking of finalists, tons of finalists kind of storm in the culture. Look at this list of things that have happened in pop culture.
You got to hit all of them. Look at this list.
Oh, man.

Speaker 22 And you see what's what you see with number two. No, let me see.
Bowen on hot ones. Bowen on hot ones.
Let's see. You have to talk about your experience.

Speaker 22 well do you want to go in order on the list well literally the first thing is this is what i wrote down okay wicked is out critically beloved huge at the box office hold space for that hold space with the lyrics hold space with the lyrics of this success because can i just say let's talk about it tracy gilchrist if you're listening i've i've had the privilege of talking to tracy before she is a wonderful journalist

Speaker 22 she holds space she does And that's exactly what she was doing. Yeah.
And this was, again, important context. I think it's really vital for people to know that this was the week of the election.

Speaker 22 That was recorded the week of the election. Yes.
Emotions were high. Feelings were raw.
Like, I think that really touched Cynthia, even if Tracy only saw it on two posts.

Speaker 22 That the reveal that it was. It is.
Well, I work in queer media, so I have seen a couple posts. The whole thing of the pinky, too, it's all funny to me.
It's all so good.

Speaker 22 Everyone's having fun with it. And, you know, like.

Speaker 22 You're going to get that moment in the press tour with a queer outlet like Al, with someone like Tracy who looked fabulous. And she did.
She looks great.

Speaker 22 And also, I just, I love that we all kind of got on board with it and lost our minds just a little bit because,

Speaker 22 God, Baldan Dowd is out here posting and tweeting about. Baldan Dowd is an icon.
You know, best person on the show. Biggest regret is what?

Speaker 22 I found out after the fact that she was trying to get in on the John Millaney Chapel Road episode of SNL, and I could have so easily gotten her a ticket. Oh, that will be made up.
Baldan Dowd.

Speaker 22 No, no, we can make that up to you. We will make that up to you.
Baldan Dowd, any show you want this season, please let me know.

Speaker 22 happily have you arrive come i'm so sorry we i can make chapel happen but you are so important to the culture bald endowed but she's out here tweeting this video is changing the way i talk yep was bald and doubt the one that was like it's a language i don't understand but they do someone was like they are speaking a language fluently with each other that i do not speak and like breaking down every single thing of it the holding of just the pinky holding of just the pinky the accepting of the compliment as if she wrote the song that's really powerful that's really that's what i wanted to that's what i wanted to have.

Speaker 22 Every element of it is part of a larger conversation that I want to have about the wicked press tour, which is. It's incredible.
It is so funny. And like, it's amazing.
It is funny.

Speaker 22 And the fact that we will think back on this press tour. Oh, this is so fun.
And the image we will have in our brains is Ariana wiping away at the air around her face so she doesn't cry.

Speaker 22 And that image of them running away from just like them hiding from their own tears serrates this press tour. Serrated.

Speaker 22 In the same way that there could be a hundred people in a room serrated the Star Wars born press tour we will always remember this press store and if it's irritating you honey honey you're don't worry it's gonna be it's gonna be over very soon and we're gonna do it again and we're gonna do it again next year who knows who knows who knows but thank you so much for saying that it's funny it's so funny everyone's also like it is sitting next to the the fact that they are both giving Oscar worthy performances.

Speaker 22 And now we can say it because now they've said it, they being all the critics and everything. Like

Speaker 22 I was saying in the beginning, I was everyone that was kind of like being very gay about it and being like, it will be nominated for Oscar.

Speaker 22 I was like, now let's not set a bar that's

Speaker 22 crazy high. Totally.
But then having seen it, I left being like, oh, this movie's got it. Like it can go the distance because it emotionally works.

Speaker 22 Every emotional beat hits. Yes.
And the performances are very rich and the characters are complex and dynamic. And, you know.
the world is so fun. Yes.

Speaker 22 And now you're seeing, I think on Gold Derby as of today, Ariana is in the two spot in supporting actress and Cynthia is at seven.

Speaker 22 And suddenly that best actress category looks very crowded. Stacked.
Stacked. Stacked category.
Can I just say one more thing about the

Speaker 22 crying? Yeah. We got to experience that individually

Speaker 22 on this podcast. And let's just say, like in the room, it gets you.
Yeah. And it does.
And watching Cynthia tear up about this character that she obviously has has sat with for years. Yeah.

Speaker 22 Just let her. Yeah.
Like she delivered. Everything else is just fun, is just fluff, basically.
You know what I mean? It's actually ruler coaching number six. Let actresses be actresses.

Speaker 22 Let actresses be actresses.

Speaker 22 That's what's what they're going to do. And it can confirm from us, I think, maybe being the first interview where there were tears shed.
And this wasn't even when they were together.

Speaker 22 We separately had them. We separated them.
The emotions are real. They are very real.
Like, I'm, mom am I out here just like crying?

Speaker 22 I was about to say I'm not out here just like crying, but I guess I kind of am anytime you do it's so it's real. It's real.
It's wonderful. It's earned.

Speaker 22 I don't have the capacity to cry the way that I used to. If something's going on, it's just because I'm tired.
Oh, you feel too tired to cry? Oh, yeah. See, when I'm tired, that's what it happens.

Speaker 22 Oh, fun. Fun.
I'm that classic like.

Speaker 22 Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that's great.
Let me, I'm just going to veer away from the T word. The T word.
Let's go. Let's move on.

Speaker 22 We're not holding holding space for a T-word. We're not holding space for a T-word.
Hot ones.

Speaker 22 I want to hear all about hot ones because, of course, all the conversation, as it should be, is all about them doing their press tour. You have turned some L-E-W-K-S.

Speaker 22 And I specifically want to say kudos to you and the number one in the game, Michael Fisher. The number one.
For what you wore on the tonight show, bitch. That suit was everything.
Speak about that.

Speaker 22 Thank you, Valentino. Head to toe, Valentino.
Very good.

Speaker 22 They would not make a single concession adjustment because it's valentino they go no you're wearing head to toe valentino he's not wearing anything else when a house says we're dressing you you listen to oh my god period i'm not i am not pushing back that was amazing that was a great look michael fisher the king that you are dressing me for my tour i mean this this man doesn't fuck right and dress josh naron for the dicks press tour dressing sebastian stand for all his stuff by the way can we say can someone fucking nut up wait Maybe this will be my I don't think so honey later.

Speaker 22 Yeah, yeah, hold on. But let me just say, like right now, actually, you know, hold space to it.
I'm going to hold space on this one.

Speaker 22 It's Sebastian Stan related at the end of the episode, but that's kind of I don't think so, honey. Talk about hot ones.
So this is a dream. This is, this is like such a cool opportunity.

Speaker 22 I'm hot toss culture down.

Speaker 22 You did amazing. Thank you.
That was so much fun. I left buzzing.
My stomach lining was only ruined for like one day.

Speaker 22 The rest of the day, then I woke up the next day being like, oh, I was, I feel fine. But it it was an experience on the toilet later.
Not even on the toilet.

Speaker 22 It was just like, because I had a full, like I had a day. I was running around and then it was just like, oh, my stomach feels awful.
So did you have more stuff to do after that? Yeah, yeah. Okay.

Speaker 22 So they say people that have done it were like, I'm so unhappy that I scheduled more things after that because of the way it fucked me up. You didn't experience all that.
I didn't experience it.

Speaker 22 I was just, my bowels were irritated and that was the syndrome. I had IBS.
I hear you. In that moment.
And then just in general. I was worried about you as someone whose stomach stomach is volatile.

Speaker 22 Wait, is this a thing about me that because

Speaker 22 I've shared a toilet with you in a room with you so many times? Sure. Multiple people are like, you are king of my tummy hurts.
And I'm like, I don't say those words.

Speaker 22 No, I don't think you ever say that. I just think you will have an intense bowel reaction.
Well, I got my gut biome checked. There you go.
What's the tea? I'm so, I'm overall fine.

Speaker 22 I have a huge overpopulation of one fauna, which is a bacteria that creates all the gas. This is going to connect you with a lot of people.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 22 Guys, this is not the first time I've said this. Look it up.
This is not sponsored. Floray.com, F-L-O-R-E,

Speaker 22 not dot com. Just Google Floray gotbin.gov.
It should be.gov.

Speaker 22 Well,

Speaker 22 in the Biden administration, because RFK Jr. sure ain't touching that.
No. We can't talk about it.
But poop in a tube, send it in. It will show you the world.

Speaker 22 Oh, this is a callback to your poop in a tube. This is the poop in the tube.
Oh, so this is what it ended up saying. Yes.
And it was very valuable information.

Speaker 22 Especially because you were going on the hot one show. Yes.
And I'm taking my, they custom made me prebiotic. How much of the experience was enjoyable from a taste perspective? So enjoyable.

Speaker 22 I would say they're all very good hot sauces, except Devom, which I always knew was that girl. When Charlie's there and described this battery acid, I said, well, now I know exactly what I'm in for.

Speaker 22 And it was even worse than I thought. Even worse than that.
There's no, I have some. Do you want to try some? Oh, kind of.
Is it going to ruin my night? They let you take it with you?

Speaker 22 Part of the gift bag, part of the spack bag is they give you one bottle of each. Do you want to? Are you kidding me? And we're having chicken tonight, right? We're having chicken tonight, but I don't.

Speaker 22 Should I wait or should I do a lot? Should I do a little bit of a drink?

Speaker 22 Do you want to dab just a little bit? Yeah, let's do a little dab.

Speaker 22 Just one little dab. I don't want you.

Speaker 22 I swear to God, no, this is a huge moment. I don't have anything.
Or should I? I don't have milk. You don't have any milk? You know what's funny about the milk of it all?

Speaker 22 I actually love drinking milk. Yes, me too.
I love milk. So that would be one of my favorite parts of being on.
It's

Speaker 22 the case and washes away the

Speaker 22 spice. Do you want to try it? You know what? I'm actually not going to try it just because we have a full night of friends coming over.
And if I react badly, I don't know. I want that.

Speaker 22 And also, I'm going to hold space for my opportunity to one day do the show. Yes, no, man.
And so

Speaker 22 I'm going to kick it down. I'm going to keep this

Speaker 22 manifesting it for myself that I one day get the opportunity to go do the show. Absolutely.
You will, Matt.

Speaker 22 You are literally the superstar of my life. Okay, that's enough.

Speaker 22 More on Sean Evans and

Speaker 22 flirty chemistry with them.

Speaker 45 Was there chemistry?

Speaker 22 I just find him to be so charming and he's so thoughtful, such a great interviewer. Readers, comment below if you think that there was chemistry.
Clap if you think she should suffer. Handsome guy.

Speaker 22 Very handsome man. He is.
Very handsome. And I bet in person it's even better.
Yeah, totally. But like, listen, you know me.
Like, when I see someone, I'm not a big flirt. You don't think?

Speaker 22 Unless I really call my target, I'm like, I want to flirt with that person.

Speaker 22 I'm just like, no. I'm a big flirt.
I know you are. Oh, hello.
How's that? Did someone knock?

Speaker 22 Okay, while he goes and checks and sees if someone just knocked, even though it's an hour before someone is supposed to be here, I'm going to say. So he asked you actually,

Speaker 22 so it was all a great experience. You definitely were flirting.
You said that he mirrors. He mirrors.
So he, so whatever you just, by the way, let's just get this out of the way. I chose tenders.

Speaker 22 Yes, yes, yes. People were wondering.
I love, I love a way. I didn't want to deal with bones that day.
Cause that just gets, then my fingers get too oily and it just becomes a whole.

Speaker 22 I think you inched even closer to legendary status when you chose tenders. Why, why do you say so? Because I feel like a lot of people don't do that.

Speaker 22 I feel like people are just like, oh, no, I'll do the wing thing. Cause I also think there is this ideology that like, you're going to go do the wing show.

Speaker 22 And like, maybe this is like, you know, the patriarchy speaking, but it's like a real wing. is on the bone.
But you, queer culture, you'll take it on the tender.

Speaker 22 Absolutely take it on the tender plus it's it's a bigger bite it's more surface area like yeah with a wing you're kind of just like what puncturing the skin with your teeth and then you nibble just a little bit off and then it just kind of like it's a little

Speaker 22 i know something about a tender it's like you are yeah i took some bites and i would not have done that with a wing did you eat a lot of them Or is a bite of each a bite of each?

Speaker 22 I ate about a half of each. And for some of them, like those early ones, I was like, Little Dicks, it's the pear one.
Yeah. Oh, that was interesting.
I don't think I had seen that one before.

Speaker 22 Pear and ghost ghost pepper or pear and habanero. That's a wonderful sauce.
I'm so excited to have it in my pantry. So you are one who has debomb in your house now.
You have a weapon in your home.

Speaker 22 I have a weapon in my house. You don't need to get a gun.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 22 Someone comes into my house. I'm throwing that in their eye.
It's debomb on sight.

Speaker 63 Beyond insanity.

Speaker 22 Beyond insanity. It's that bad.
It's that bad. And the last dab, delicious.
Really? Okay, good. Because it really, it really does.
It peaks at debomb and then like the last dab is so delicious.

Speaker 22 But I noticed you did have a a hard time with the second to last one too like it was it wasn't

Speaker 22 good after debom it wasn't good uh i would have tolerated it if the order had been the second to last if debom was the second to last you know what i mean like i hear you like all the way up to debom i was like this isn't that bad i love you know like my my sachmanese food i love my spices i i look up hot sauce production videos when i'm eating a spicy meal uh at home by my lonesome you were a legend on that thank you and i thought you were dragging your outfit but i thought again michael fisher killed it.

Speaker 22 Michael Fisher. That was a wear shirt.
So fun.

Speaker 22 Yeah, it was good. That was a great time.
I'm so grateful I got to do it. And that whole crew, that staff there, loveliest people.
The loveliest people in digital media.

Speaker 22 And we love First Wee Feast. A lot of people in the comments saying, who is this guy? And I go, really? At this point,

Speaker 22 this is my thing. I go.

Speaker 22 No one can possibly know who everyone is in the culture. Oh, yeah.
I really don't think so, honey. Just think of like, I don't even know who this is.
It's like, right, okay.

Speaker 22 I don't know who half of the girls are. I don't know either.
So, like, it's, that's not a, it's not a thing worth spending your thumb muscle energy typing.

Speaker 22 Also, it's like, if you're commenting on a video, who is this person and the person you're talking about is in the video, maybe if you watch the video, you'll find a little bit of

Speaker 22 a personality. Maybe you'll learn more about the person that you're

Speaker 22 in lack. in terms of knowledge about.
I thought it was a wonderful appearance.

Speaker 22 And when he asked you your Mount Rushmore of albums for the year,

Speaker 22 I did not leave out Brat, by the way. They cut around that.
You definitely didn't have Brat in the episode. Yeah.

Speaker 22 And people are calling me out of it rightfully, but I think what we must, what you must understand is that I did, of course, give Brad its flowers. Do you want to, in an episode that we will not edit?

Speaker 22 Because this episode never has that at one point perfect every time.

Speaker 22 What is your actual Mount Rushmore of pop albums and they're 24?

Speaker 22 And this will lead us into the Grammy nominations category. I mean, because we didn't get to talk about it.
We didn't get to talk about it.

Speaker 22 And things have since changed with Beyonce with this Christmas performance. Yes.
So I'm very excited about that. Me too.
And that does change things for me. I'm like, thank you.

Speaker 22 She's giving us a moment with Cowboy Carter. I would put Cowboy Carter up there.
Brat for sure. See, this is where it gets hard.
I got two more slots. I'm going to say

Speaker 22 short and sweet.

Speaker 22 Which did make it in the hot wind episode. And

Speaker 22 I revisited this week because I'm just like, this woman has the number one movie, the number one album, has had a number one album this year and a number one single.

Speaker 22 Eternal Sunshine is still so fucking good. Eternal Sunshine is fucking phenomenal.
In fact, I was wearing the sweatshirt the other day. The merch goes off too.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 22 Speaking of a merch, I have Sabrina Carpenter, Short and Sweet. I'm happy you said it has now re-emerged back in the middle.
I don't know why I pit that against Eternal Sunshine.

Speaker 22 They're both excellent albums and very emblematic of the year. I went to the tour.
Please tell me. You were there when Domingo was there.
I was there when Domingo was arrested.

Speaker 22 And he was arrested for being too hot. Like, the show was great.
Of course it was.

Speaker 22 It was so funny. It's so stupid.
It's so funny. Every song is good.
Also, not only is every song on Short and Sweet good, and obviously in the show, Justice for Tornado Warnings. Oh.

Speaker 22 Go back and listen to Tornado Warnings. Is that on the selling?

Speaker 22 Yes. Yeah, she knows.
She knows how fucking I'm good. It's like a really fun part of the show.
And just, I don't know, just the whole thing is a blast.

Speaker 22 Like, Marcelo being out there as Domingo was so fun.

Speaker 22 you know what he did you know what that guy did yeah he flew out the writers writers he spent his own coin and flew out the writers good and flew out um kara and hair the amazing karaoke the wig maker what a fun moment it was great i was really happy to be there for that and it was a really fun concert really really just like a oh then i turn around

Speaker 22 who's sitting next to each other behind me and literally the entire i felt so weird about this because the entire stadium turns around and looks at the fact that Jeffrey

Speaker 22 Jeffrey Epson and Ghillan were there. Jeffrey Jr.
Oh my God, I knew it. And they were catching up.
Oh. And he was like, how do you spell your name again? It's coming up on the holidays.

Speaker 22 It's like, what, the three-year anniversary of our Ghillan episode? You've got to check the Gillian episode. That's some of my proudest words.

Speaker 22 Honestly, the 12 Days of Christmas, the McDonald's episode, and the Gheelan episode, and the Mary M. Cosby episode.
Oh, 12 Days of Christmas.

Speaker 22 Should we do that again? Maybe we should. Well, yeah,

Speaker 22 four years.

Speaker 22 Has it been? I guess, yeah, because that was 2020. 2020.

Speaker 22 Okay, so what was I saying? Oh, no, John Mayer and

Speaker 22 Katy Perry. In the same

Speaker 22 well, they clearly didn't know it was happening. And then I felt weird because everyone was turned with their phones out facing them, watching them talk.

Speaker 22 And I was just like facing forward, like, you guys, please don't. Like, that's not.
But in the words of Jennifer Maroney, respect celebrity privacy. Respect celebrity privacy.
Celebrity rights.

Speaker 22 But everyone was enjoying the short and sweet tour. Juno, how did Juno go? Juno was amazing.

Speaker 22 Bad Cam looks so funny. Bad Cam is great.

Speaker 22 Juno is probably

Speaker 22 now, nowadays, the song I listen to.

Speaker 22 Oh, it's fantastic. By the way, Nonsense Christmas looks so fun.
Lauren Mandel Culture Awards. The only reason you produced that.
You produced that down. She produced Nonsense Christmas.
Yeah.

Speaker 22 Can we say? Yeah, we can say. We try to move heaven and earth to do it.
We were asked to do it. We were asked to be in it.
We're asked to be in it. We couldn't make it work.
We're so honored.

Speaker 22 We love you, Sabrina. We were actually doing a culture awards-related thing in L.A., and she was shooting it in New York, and we heard, we got the ask, and that would have been so fun.

Speaker 22 That would have been so fun. Oh, well.
Next year's Nonsense Christmas. Next year's Nonsense Christmas.
She is the perfect person to do a Christmas special. It's the humor.
It's the

Speaker 22 kid if I just said the word humor after the honeymoon.

Speaker 22 Oh, my God. That was such a fun episode.
Wasn't that fun? I listened back and I was like, wow, this is even more fun than I remember. It's also about a pancake breakfast.

Speaker 22 That was special. Okay, what else is on the list? I have Charlie XDX on SNL.
Oh my gosh. So that episode was so much fun.
I have to say, Shrek

Speaker 22 actually is back. Shrek is now permanent, relevant, monoculture.
It's actually rural culture number 15. Shrek is now

Speaker 22 permanent, relevant monoculture. There's never a time.
Because by the way, they keep coming out with Shrek's. Yes, Shrek 5 is coming.

Speaker 22 And also, Puss and Boots is a

Speaker 22 fucko spin-off. come on but shrek will never not what's about you you sent me a lord farquad thing the other day

Speaker 22 i don't know why why

Speaker 22 this is so

Speaker 22 i don't know why this happened but i found myself i i like woke up from a blackout and was like on lord farquad's wikipedia

Speaker 22 like looking at like information about his past. And I just like was like, I don't know why I'm here.
I'm screenshotting this and putting this on my story. But it was basically like

Speaker 22 Farquad's history. It was like Farquad, like,

Speaker 22 it was like his basic info. Wow.
And I was just like, I don't know why I'm here, but the reason is because Shrek is on the bank. Shrek is never going to be far from top of mind.
For everyone,

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Oh, my God. I go to the Today Show.

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Speaker 22 Yeah. I'm on the 9 a.m.
hour. Oh, my God.

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What do they want us to do?

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But Hoda kind of knows about it, but I'm going to tell you off link. Okay.
I'm into it.

Speaker 22 Yeah. I'm interested because I keep wanting to go to the next one.
It would involve us recording something. in the studio.

Speaker 56 Wow.

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And obviously, you know, I'm interested. I'm so interested.
To send off Hoda Kodbi, are you kidding me? Whoa. Sorry, I'm saying too much.

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Just the best. Wow, what did we? Oh, I was on today's show.

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She got to introduce herself to each other.

Speaker 22 He's so excited.

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He's hosting the next show. And then lovely staff member on today goes, but when John Lithgow would like for you to say hello.
John Lithgow.

Speaker 22 Lord Farquad himself. Wow.
This is

Speaker 22 what I'm saying.

Speaker 22 No.

Speaker 22 Couldn't have been nicer. John Lithgow would like for you to say hello.
I was like I was being invited to meet the king.

Speaker 56 Wow. I mean, in a way.

Speaker 22 In a way. I've met him years ago.
I interviewed him and Blythe Danner about a movie at Sundance, and they do. They have the gravitas.
They are like American. People constantly think he's British.

Speaker 22 Yeah. Even though he's American.
Yes, probably because of the Churchill of it all. It's the Churchill of Ital.
But anyway, Shrek is on the brain.

Speaker 22 Farquad, you know, I never got until years later that it's supposed to be like a play on Fuckwad.

Speaker 22 Is it really? Yes. See, the thing about Shrek, it was subversive.
Very subversive.

Speaker 22 I'll never forget, like, my grandfather was fighting me when we when I was a kid he was like you really want to see this movie Shrek yes

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Speaker 22 Yes. And he was.
And when they said Dulak is a perfect play.

Speaker 22 Please keep up with the grass, channel your shoes, wipe your face. So come on.
This is great

Speaker 22 comedic work. Jennifer Saunders singing, holding out for a hero.
In the second one, yes.

Speaker 22 Rupert Everett playing Prince Charming.

Speaker 22 That was the first time they let a gay man really go off into fantasy world. Rupert Everett walked so Jonathan Billy could

Speaker 22 twirl his ass. Thank you for that close-up shot, by the way.
You know the shot I'm talking about, y'all. Yeah, you know.
Dance into your life work where he really has ass in face.

Speaker 22 If you get to see that 20 feet tall at IMAX, I'm so happy for you. It's wonderful.
But I've been a fan of Jonathan Billy's ass. Oh, since Bridgerton.
Since Bridgerton.

Speaker 22 In the first episode, you see it in its all its glory. Since Crashing, since Final Fantasy 14, I'm going to keep saying it.
Fellow Travelers, too.

Speaker 22 I mean, the sex scenes in Fellow Travelers are real and intense.

Speaker 22 Happy for everyone involved. Just so happy for those boys that they got to live their dream.
Let's see. What else did I do? Oh, so, so, so.

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Speaker 22 I am just devastated to miss Charlie and Gaga and Missy. Like, that is really tough.
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Speaker 22 it's going to be worth it. Sunday is going to be amazing.
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Speaker 22 Like, I would say it's more exciting in the headliner space, but the thing about not knowing a lot of the people on the, because I'm not familiar with a lot of the acts like

Speaker 22 below the line is you discover them and it's gonna be fun it's gonna be great i'm really excited that's how chapel blew up yes so you know like that is coachella at its best when it's like oh this is a place where people like find someone yeah chapel roan in the goby tent going absolutely off you better go see t-pain this year oh there's no way i'm missing t-pain my story last year dave mazzoni and i were all we wanted was to see t-pain but the heineken house where he was performing was absolutely

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Speaker 22 I was hanging out with some friends the other night and just doing gay music videos and disease came on and I go, this fucking video rules. It really does rule.
It's so good. Yeah.

Speaker 22 It's giving, like, like, something's going on in the culture right now where a lot of people are doing stuff in the suburbs. Yeah.

Speaker 22 In the music video space. What do we think? Is it to appeal? No, no, no.
I think it's just, it's just a fun backdrop always, especially when you have debauchery going on.

Speaker 22 Do you have any thoughts on speaking of the music space? Any thoughts on the Grammy nominations? I'm very excited.

Speaker 22 Award season is upon us. Award season is upon us.
I think for the most part,

Speaker 22 like what we wanted. Yeah.

Speaker 68 I think exactly what I wanted.

Speaker 22 But obviously, Ari was snubbed a bit. Ari snubbed and she's like, I don't care.
She's like, I've got, well, it's not that she doesn't care.

Speaker 22 I think she's just like, I am on a totally different journey. I'm so proud of that album, but it's not top of mind in a way that I think is so healthy.

Speaker 22 My thing is, like, she's going to get an Oscar nomination. And of the nominations she did get, she can now say that she's nominated for a Grammy alongside Brandy and Monica.

Speaker 22 so like to me it's to me to me the morning was a win

Speaker 22 like to look at the list and see there is my name next to Brandy and Monica as it should be but like I was so happy with that nomination because their vocal in that altogether was truly crazy so great that song is great but I just that album is no spectacular it's crazy to see all of the album of the year nominees six of the pop girlies

Speaker 22 And then Jacob Collier and Andre 3000 for an instrumental album. Like, it's a cuckoo year like that they would do that.

Speaker 22 And I guess yeah, I guess the one big pop girl who missed out on the album of the year non was

Speaker 22 Ariana. Maybe because it came out super early or

Speaker 22 March?

Speaker 22 March. It feels earlier than everything else, but the chapel was September of last year.
Right. It's a seminar.

Speaker 22 What are your thoughts? Well, the thing that I had hoped, my predictions for winners, or at least my hopes for winners, can all happen. Yeah.
And I hope they spread the wealth.

Speaker 22 I don't know that they will. I don't know that they will.

Speaker 22 My dream would be album of the year, Brat, Record of the Year, Espresso,

Speaker 22 Song of the Year, either Good Luck Babe or Birds of a Feather.

Speaker 22 Chapel Roan, Best New Artist.

Speaker 22 Pop vocal album.

Speaker 22 That is where Ariana could win. I would give it to her now that she isn't up for the other big ones, but I could see Sabrina taking it.
Also, Chapel, that category stacked.

Speaker 22 Pop duo, I think you have to give it to Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars, but i could also see i could also see it being billy and charlie because that song is huge yeah but you it comes on and you feel so excited of course it's so exciting i do think uh die with a smile yeah die with a smile fastest um to billion to billion so and it's number one now i think it's like that song could could win a lot more than we think yes and also I realize I didn't say Beyonce in any of that, but

Speaker 22 watch out for this

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Did you know about that?

Speaker 22 I know that classically, there are big football games on Thanksgiving and Christmas, but otherwise. Is this part of her Netflix deal? Yes, because it's the live game on Netflix.

Speaker 22 Okay, so people are all up in arms about the potential for this to be a nightmare because I guess big glitches with the Jake Paul, the Jake Paul blind stuff, and the Love Blind stuff.

Speaker 22 Like, like, Netflix's live thing is just always technically a little.

Speaker 22 We got to get it together. Got to get it together.
You got to get it together for Beyonce. Come on, Ted

Speaker 22 Ted

Speaker 22 speaking of awards have you been seeing any Oscar movies I'm so behind the answer is no I have recently last night I watched look back which I think will probably get nominated for it's gonna be tough it's only an hour long it's a it's an anime movie but

Speaker 22 I certainly think it might it's it's gonna be hard to categorize either I need to do some more reading on this too like it should be up for best animated film it has a chance of being foreign yeah or short I don't know I gotta to look into like the criteria for a short film.

Speaker 22 I actually don't know. I feel like it usually they are less than like.

Speaker 22 Okay, then yeah. Then I don't know that.
I don't know the ins and outs of that. Like, I haven't been looking in, I haven't been in the animated short space.

Speaker 22 I've been in the future. This is the year that I really kind of go all the way down the ball.
You should. Are you a member of the Academy? No, girl.

Speaker 22 If I were a member of the Academy, I would not leave the house. I would be on

Speaker 22 the Academy app all day, all night. It's probably not far away for you.
I listen, Janet Yang, the legend, you, oh my God, I got to meet Janet Yang at this event, and she was so nice to my parents.

Speaker 22 She spoke Mandarin to my parents. I was like,

Speaker 22 this woman can take over the world if she wants. President of the Academy, the chicest woman.
Oh, you're not, your invitation is not far away. Well, I don't, I don't know.
You'll be getting one. But

Speaker 22 I'm really only in it for the app. I'll be transparent.
I just want the Academy app on my Apple TV. I get that.
I've seen a few things. I saw a real pain.
Yes, we did.

Speaker 22 Which Fancy Eisenberg and Karen Kalkin. I thought it was good.
I mean, I thought it was like, it's a great examination of that relationship, like a brotherly relationship, but, you know,

Speaker 22 complicated and estranged. It's bizarre to me that people are saying, like, so I went and saw it because it had Oscar Buzz and I was like, oh, Kieran Kulkin is in the one spot on Gold Derby for

Speaker 22 Best Supporting Actor. You go see it.
He's in 95% of it.

Speaker 22 So this is a theme of, this is going to be a theme of the year, I think.

Speaker 22 And then I was looking at Best Supporting Actress, and Zoe Seldana is in the one spot, and they're saying she's the lead of that movie.

Speaker 22 So I'm like, and I think there are very few people in that business as talented as Kieran Culkin and Zoe. Zoe Zeldana, absolutely.

Speaker 22 I think that, like, if their performances like merit that consideration, they should be in the Ostra conversation. But the problem with.

Speaker 22 just

Speaker 22 throwing rules to the side in a post-Olivia Coleman world.

Speaker 22 Yes.

Speaker 22 My thing with when a lead performance wins or is nominated for a supporting category, it really just like, it robs all those character actors and those supporting players of the opportunity to get that shine.

Speaker 63 Yes.

Speaker 22 You know what I mean? Like, it's just, it's actually really,

Speaker 22 because why even have a supporting category if you're just going to ignore the rules? And I can't help but wonder, like,

Speaker 22 what exactly makes them feel like they can make those decisions sometimes?

Speaker 22 Like, if Zoe Seldana, the lead of Amelia Perez, who is also the lead of not just Avatar, but also the Marvel series at large in Guardians, who has been a star since the late 90s, who has consistently worked year in and year out.

Speaker 22 Why do they feel like they can bump her down to supporting her? It's a bummer for everybody because, yeah, supporting ends up being this repository now.

Speaker 22 It feels like, oh, don't worry, we're going to campaign you for the Oscar, just not the one that is like the one everyone's going to be talking about. Why?

Speaker 22 If Zoe Saldana is brilliant in Amelia Perez, and I haven't seen it yet, but by all accounts, she is like ferocious, her best performance, whatever, then why aren't you campaigning Zoe Saldana? Yeah.

Speaker 22 Someone literally, everyone in America and the world has seen her movies. Why isn't she competing in lead actress if she's the lead of that movie? I just don't understand

Speaker 22 why

Speaker 22 they have, like, obviously it's a studio decision, so they can hopefully maximize their opportunities to win more Oscars.

Speaker 22 But, like, you know, if you move Zoe to lead, maybe you do get two nominations in best actress with her and, you know, Paula Sophia, Gascon.

Speaker 22 Now they're talking about nominating Isabella Rossellini in Conclave, a movie I saw on Election Day,

Speaker 22 which was rough to watch old white Catholic men count votes on Election Day and then

Speaker 22 check my phone. But Isabella for supporting? supporting? She has like maybe three scenes, doesn't really do much,

Speaker 22 but she's going to compete with Zoe Seldana, the lead of the movie, and Ariana Grande, the lead of the movie. Like if these performances are good enough to be in lead, which they are, put them there.

Speaker 22 Put them there. It is interesting.
Right now, currently, Golder Bay has Mikey Madison, the favorite, her best actress. Have you seen Honora? I have not.
I have. I'm meant to.

Speaker 22 I'm very behind, like I said. But yeah, it's like you're seeing your Angelinas and your Nicole's, and you wonder if all this shuffling is just to make room for them 100 where

Speaker 22 yeah i you must wonder how they feel about it where i don't know i mean their feelings are important but also like not the most important thing for me the thing i'm thinking about the most is it's like you just want

Speaker 22 the opportunity to reward character work and especially with someone like kirin kulkin who is a character actor yes his entire career has played character roles and he has built his career playing roles like this.

Speaker 22 And then he's a lead in the movie, especially after he wins a lead Emmy for a show that has three, arguably four leads. Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 22 They did the right thing with him there, put him in the lead category. He won a deserved lead Emmy for that.
Like, why are you putting him in the supporting category?

Speaker 22 He's not a supporting role or a supporting actor. So the direction of this matters where it's not an Olivia Coleman thing where she gets bumped up from supporting to lead.

Speaker 22 Yeah, when the true leads were bumped to supporting. Well, yeah.
So so it goes both ways in that situation, but like you're talking about how it moves from top down. Yeah.
I mean, it moves down.

Speaker 22 Yes. You need to read Oscar Wars by Michael Schulman.
Right. I do.
I do. I do.
You would love, you would eat it up.

Speaker 22 But I guess my point is like, if we can lift, like, for example, Viola Davis in doubt,

Speaker 22 great supporting nomination. One amazing scene sequence, if you want to call it that.
She becomes a superstar.

Speaker 22 And then years later, she gets to commit her own category fraud and win best supporting actress for fences. You know what I mean?

Speaker 22 It's like, so, but you wouldn't have the superstar that is Viola Davis is what I'm saying. Without

Speaker 22 the nomination, making room for a nomination like that. And that's why it's important.
You wouldn't have like, you know, Octavia Spencer

Speaker 22 like as this like marquee name. It's it's important to make room

Speaker 22 for real supporting work because it actually opens up a door to interesting actors who are doing interesting work in these types of roles who are crucial functionally to these movies. You

Speaker 22 need to run this business. But if I did run the business, they'd be like, oh, we can't do that because money.
I'd be like, okay, I think this is what I would do.

Speaker 22 If you're in more than 70% of a movie, a jury looks at it.

Speaker 22 For example, a lot of movies have ensembles that are in the whole movie. Think about who's afraid of Virginia Wolfe, right? It's an ensemble of four people.
They're in the movie the whole time.

Speaker 22 you would look at the role of honey a jury would look at it she's in more than 70 of the movie and they could decide this is a supporting role because elizabeth taylor is the lead and that i think would be fair i'm not even saying if you're in more than 70 of the movie you must be considered a lead i'm like if that's the case let's at least look at it sure so that this can hold some like fairness because there needs to be something in place to achieve fairness because the current system is not fair.

Speaker 22 Janet Yang, legend, take no. Hire Matt, put Matt 9 the Academy.
I think that's a pretty easy fix and a pretty reasonable fix.

Speaker 22 And it doesn't even change things if that's. The Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolf example is perfect too.
Cause it's like, okay, she's in the movie, but

Speaker 22 it's Liz, it's Richard. Right.
But you can create new stars with Oscar nominations. Yeah.
So do that. I am very happy to see Clarence Macklin be number four for best supporting.
But he should win.

Speaker 22 Right. That's my point.
Exactly. Exactly.
Clarence Macklin in Sing Sing should win that award.

Speaker 22 And because Kieran Culkin,

Speaker 22 who, by the way, it's nothing against him. No, I think he's so talented and he's terrific in the movie as a lead.

Speaker 22 It's the system of it all. And that Clarence Macklin's performance is a supporting

Speaker 22 definition of what should be highlight by that category. And he's in the fourth spot.

Speaker 22 You know what I mean? Like,

Speaker 22 that is the category for the scene-stealing work. How much is Denzel in Gladiator 2? I have not seen it.
I don't know, but apparently he tears it up. Yeah.
I hear he's having fun. Yeah.
I can't wait.

Speaker 22 Putting on these rings on the stress and going crazy.

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Speaker 22 I saw Saturday Night. Yes.
I think it would be better if it were all Muppets. You're so right.
I don't know why I'm there.

Speaker 22 Like, the way that it moves throughout 30 Rock and different characters come in. It's literally Muppet.
It's the Muppets. And I was like, this should have been the moment.

Speaker 22 It's like the moment in 30 Rock when when you see the world through Kenneth's eyes and he sees Liz walking around as a Muppet literally.

Speaker 22 That's the energy like Belushi's behavior in the movie Muppet ass Muppets even Chevy like when he's like like a cat and everything like I just think the way the characters moved in and out and like they all just like popped in their little moments and I was like this is Muppets and

Speaker 22 This movie would be more memorable if they just committed to it. And maybe it was the fact that Jim Henson is there in the movie mentioning the Muppets and I was like, oh, this should all be Muppets.

Speaker 22 Yeah,

Speaker 22 totally. Like that scene where Lil Mama, Andrew Barth Feldman gets too high.
I'm like, this is a Muppets. This is the Muppets.
And he's giving kind of like a Muppet. I love him.

Speaker 22 He's giving kind of like a Muppet performance. I love Andrew Barth Feldman.
No, he's great. Fantastic.
Andrew Barth Feldman and No Hard Feelings. Oh, he's so good.
He's so good in that movie.

Speaker 22 Great in this movie, too. No Muppets should be in Anora.
Anora is one of the great movies of the year.

Speaker 22 You're going to love it.

Speaker 22 it i i'm so behind yeah she's she's incredible that's that i saw myself on screen when i saw her oh yeah i did like a staten island stripper being like come on let's go to the atm

Speaker 22 i was like i i get her she's a heid garden character oh definitely definitely oh wait didn't she do didn't she did 80s cocaine wife no she played mikey

Speaker 22 madison for wicked

Speaker 22 yeah yeah yeah i was like well we really went niche with this one yeah no, people, people loved it.

Speaker 22 I got to see Conclave. I got to see the Brutalists.
Nickel Boys is the first time I

Speaker 22 heard it's really good.

Speaker 22 Oh, based on the book, of course. Anjanu Ellis Taylor.
Yeah. Tears it up.
She's, and she's, she's listed as well.

Speaker 22 Well, this is an interesting year. Yeah.
And then I went to the theater last night. You need to tell everyone about Gypsy.
Audrey. So when you also saw Sunset Boulevard.
I saw Sunset Boulevard, yes.

Speaker 22 So across the street from Sunset Boulevard, Audre McDonald is in Gypsy. and I went to the third preview.

Speaker 22 I'm going to take the tone that I took when I saw Sweeney Todd in previews and say, I'm going to give this all the benefit of the doubt. It was the third preview.

Speaker 22 And I have also heard this director in particular works a lot out in previews because from what I saw, a lot needed to be worked out in previews. And they worked it out with Sweeney Todd and the area.

Speaker 22 Absolutely. I mean, and I think that that's kind of the thing with previews is you see.

Speaker 22 at least from a distance like what's working like things are in process i i get it she is spectacular she audra mcdonald i happened to have like a seat where i was pretty close to her and and she kind of comes very forward and gives rose's turn like

Speaker 22 right in the first row

Speaker 22 it's the highest quality acting on broadway i would say yeah it is and it's her rose is very interesting it's almost like pathological It's almost like she's playing Rose's mental illness more than we've ever seen.

Speaker 22 Because a lot of actors will love to play up to the break. Yes.
I feel like Bernadette is giving like seductive narcissists.

Speaker 22 Patty is giving like

Speaker 22 bombast bull of a woman. I don't take no for an answer.
This, like, almost like it's born in her culture to take over.

Speaker 22 And then the despondency when she realizes she's gone too far does, it just gives me like, it's an attitude issue that goes out of control. Audra, in her quiet moments,

Speaker 22 you see her like

Speaker 22 processing and working out disappointments and things that make her angry. And then she leaps into action in a way that you know her brain is telling her, you'll die if you don't fix this.

Speaker 22 And it's thrilling to watch.

Speaker 22 You can't have a more special experience than watching her do Rose's turn from an acting standpoint.

Speaker 22 Everyone that's wondering about how her voice is going to fit the music it really just depends how married you are to patty lapone and bernadette and some people are ethel merman like you know what i mean like and yeah it depends how married you are to like a brassy belty rose if you're married to that this is going to feel weird to you because it's it's very odd it's very legit sounding it is mixed you know what i mean yeah and i guess i guess we're split in the culture as to what we want which is some people might be married to the classic roses and then others might be like, maybe it is time for something new.

Speaker 22 Yeah. How has you got to get a gimmick? Amazing.
I love that song. It is a act two of Gypsy really soars.
Yeah. Like act one is good, but act two of Gypsy is incredible.
The gimmick ladies

Speaker 22 sore it.

Speaker 22 Always like my favorite part of Gypsy. Yeah.
And besides like the big showstoppers, but you got to get a gimmick. I'm just like, this is so fun.

Speaker 22 It's just three. It's three charm songs in one.
Yep. Yeah.
It's so good. And the costumes are great.
Like the performance, the actresses are so good.

Speaker 22 It's just so crazy because across the street, Nicole

Speaker 22 is so

Speaker 22 different.

Speaker 22 So different. Like doing this like avant-garde, abstract, like almost like multiple personality performance.
Like a disordered. Singing down.

Speaker 22 But now I think she made it really fucking tough for her. She made it tough.
And can I say my note, my critique for Nicole? What? The moments that are played for comedy, pushed. Pushed.

Speaker 22 No need to do the the valid girl voice. It doesn't need it.
Yeah. You're putting too much sauce on it.
I think, here's the thing. It's like Audra is so,

Speaker 22 it's crazy because like you cannot deny the performance, the power of like Nicole's performance. Like she is spellbinding.

Speaker 22 And she's amazing. And her singing is out of control.
It's almost like you've never heard the songs like this in an amazing way.

Speaker 22 Across the street, Audra sings the songs from Gypsy and Audra McDonald's is one of the greatest singers alive.

Speaker 22 But the style of singing is so different from what people are accustomed to that you're also hearing those songs like

Speaker 22 Audra to me. And the bar is kind of

Speaker 22 whatever for Nicole. Well, now I think the bar is so high for Nicole because everyone's talking about it.

Speaker 22 And I think she made it really difficult for herself saying the stupid comment about the hat on Russell Brand's Instagram. Because in terms of Tony voting, no, that's alienating so many people.

Speaker 22 Well, the Tony voting block is only 800 people.

Speaker 22 So that's a community of people. So you really do need a community to rally around you.
And I don't know that they rally around her after

Speaker 22 even an explained comment like that when they have other options. And the way that the comment was explained also could have gone better, in my opinion.
Here's what I'll say.

Speaker 22 I believe her when she says, I'm just a religious person, but that's not really an excuse. I mean, like, I don't know.
I don't know.

Speaker 22 A lot of it's weird to me, but like, it's a shame because I'm a huge fan of her performance, and I still do think everyone should go see this production, which I think is incredible.

Speaker 22 I want to go see Amanda Gonzalez

Speaker 22 on Tuesdays because I hear she is incredible. Yeah, that would be great.
It's a different take

Speaker 22 with the same production, obviously.

Speaker 22 She does every Tuesday.

Speaker 22 She does Tuesdays. Okay, we should go, we should go.
I would love to see her.

Speaker 22 And I mean, just, I mean, the direction of the show, I think, is phenomenal. It's, I mean, you did enjoy it.
I really enjoyed it. It was amazing.

Speaker 22 And that's my thing is it's like, as it stands right now, like if you're picking between the two performances, like the one production is just way more memorable.

Speaker 22 But again, maybe Gypsy will get there. But I'm saying Death Becomes Her next month.
Oh, my God. And I heard it's to die for.
Can we just?

Speaker 22 Of course. Can we give respect to the name? Megan Hilty, obviously.
Oh, period. But Jen Samar.
Yes. One of our best.
Yeah. No, all I'm hearing is that they tear it up.
and the show is so fun.

Speaker 22 Oh my God. I love it.
No, and also to say nothing of Michelle Williams. Oh, of course.
Like, wait, you're seeing Michelle Williams the day after Beyonce on TV. Oh my God.
Yeah. Wow, wow, wow.

Speaker 22 It'll be, I'll have to see, do something with Kelly in the show.

Speaker 22 Absolutely. I'll have to play Lay It On Me for my parents, the music video.
Lay it on me, baby. Lay it on me.
Oh,

Speaker 22 lay it on me.

Speaker 22 Death Becomes Her will be a gag. I mean,

Speaker 22 I mean, we've been asking for it as a culture. I know, but the great cast.
I love Megan Hilty. Oh my God, I love her.
She was great on Watch What Happens Live. Yeah, she's great.
She's so fun.

Speaker 22 Watch Smash again. Watch Smash again.

Speaker 22 She, she, even when the third graders, because the original third graders were writing Smash, those third graders are now, they're like, they've grown up, they have kids.

Speaker 22 But when they were in third grade writing Smash, it didn't matter to Megan. She tore up no matter what the storyline was and always

Speaker 22 sang

Speaker 22 her tits off. Of course.
And she was dealing with Republican leads way before anyone else.

Speaker 22 Kathy McFook. McFook.

Speaker 22 Jen Simard.

Speaker 22 Oh my God.

Speaker 22 I just got to say, I got to meet her at the Tony's and I was gagged and she was my favorite part of company. My favorite part of company.
I see it to see company. She was fabulous in company.

Speaker 22 She was making my ass laugh. I love, I mean, like everything I've seen her do, I do love.
God, I was super excited when I found out it was the two of them because I was like, oh, that's really fun.

Speaker 22 They found people that are really going to give it. Yes.
Yes. Like a show like that would be so easy to like cast stunty.
Okay, totally. But they found like some of the real girls.
Here you go.

Speaker 34 Not just a tea, the band tee.

Speaker 32 From the last show, your favorite band ever played.

Speaker 85 He wore it everywhere.

Speaker 97 Then your boyfriend started wearing it.

Speaker 73 Which was cute. Until he dumped you and took it with him.

Speaker 99 Anyway, now you're on eBay. And there it is.

Speaker 55 Same tea from the same tour still living in your memory rent-free forever.

Speaker 30 But eBay isn't just forget whatever your ex slash XBFF stole back.

Speaker 31 A RAV4 from 2003?

Speaker 16 eBay.

Speaker 22 I'll take a tagline.

Speaker 107 Well, with Xfinity Wi-Fi, it kinda is.

Speaker 41 It's Wi-Fi that keeps your whole home connected so you can actually enjoy the holiday magic chaos-free.

Speaker 103 Your kid is video chatting their friends friends from their tablet, and your partner is shopping for too many gifts and cinnamon candles.

Speaker 113 Ah!

Speaker 79 What?

Speaker 25 It's one of America's most epic off-road adventures, and now every adventurer can plan, preview, and explore it themselves.

Speaker 24 You know, Matt and I weren't super familiar with the off-roading game until this summer when we took a dunes tour and went off-road.

Speaker 26 And now I totally get it.

Speaker 56 And I envy the adventure that people off-road take when they go down the Trans-America Trail.

Speaker 85 You in?

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Speaker 123 Ready, set Ford.

Speaker 38 I cracked open a Diet Coke, sat back for five minutes.

Speaker 22 Total reset.

Speaker 39 Right?

Speaker 42 Exactly.

Speaker 46 Diet Coke.

Speaker 47 This is my taste.

Speaker 8 Two questions. What are you doing right now?

Speaker 57 And why aren't you on a Virgin Voyages Caribbean cruise?

Speaker 88 Well, obviously you were listening to us. Smart use of your time.

Speaker 22 True.

Speaker 57 But you could also be on a Virgin Voyages Caribbean cruise at the same time.

Speaker 8 That's just brilliant time management.

Speaker 80 Very true.

Speaker 111 This gives me an idea.

Speaker 46 Let's do a quick cruise quiz.

Speaker 124 Ready?

Speaker 89 First, cruise dining.

Speaker 22 Do you prefer buffet or a curated dining experience with access to 20 distinct restaurants? Curated dining.

Speaker 46 Next.

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Speaker 82 Second question.

Speaker 87 Would you rather have an overstuffed itinerary or the freedom to explore stunning?

Speaker 95 Oh, I want the freedom to explore stunning Caribbean destinations.

Speaker 94 Again, I think I see where this quiz is going.

Speaker 15 Virgin Voyages is amazing.

Speaker 46 Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 122 The cruises are kid-free.

Speaker 20 From sunrise yoga to late-night cocktails, every moment is made for grown-up fun.

Speaker 12 Nothing against kids.

Speaker 44 Kids are awesome, but sometimes it's nice to be kid-free.

Speaker 49 And there's so much included value, over $1,000. Right.

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Speaker 108 Wi-Fi, soda, top-tier entertainment, over 20 restaurants, and even group fitness classes.

Speaker 2 No hidden fees, no surprise charges.

Speaker 12 Virgin Voyages gives you the kind of luxury you actually deserve.

Speaker 73 And you know what?

Speaker 87 I deserve luxury.

Speaker 46 You do, and me too.

Speaker 89 Yes, there's always something happening on board.

Speaker 106 From wellness-focused sailings to epic holiday voyages, live music, DJs, themed parties, and more.

Speaker 111 Boredom doesn't board the ship.

Speaker 14 And there are so many amazing stops.

Speaker 125 You leave from Miami and sail to places like Grand Cayman, Jamaica, Puerto Rico, and the Dominican Republic.

Speaker 120 Virgin even has their own private beach club in Bimini.

Speaker 77 And they're adding stops in 2025 and 2026.

Speaker 87 Yeah, like Aruba, St.

Speaker 71 Lucia, and Curacao.

Speaker 22 But it's not all go, go, go.

Speaker 49 Right, you can totally go into relaxation mode too.

Speaker 20 Your cabin is a full-on sanctuary.

Speaker 115 Private terrace, ocean views, and their signature red hammock just waiting for you to swing.

Speaker 57 Oh, and did I mention Virgin Voyages is launching a new ship, The Brilliant Lady?

Speaker 8 Brilliant name, by the way. She's bigger, bolder, and packed with even more Virgin Wow factor.

Speaker 106 Book now at virginvoyages.com or contact your travel advisor.

Speaker 10 That's virginvoyages.com.

Speaker 22 Here's what I have. Housewives.
I have housewives. There's a whole ton of stuff happening with the housewives.
Of course, let's do quick hits. Quick hits.
Team Dorit or Team Kyle?

Speaker 22 I'm gonna go Team Dorit, even though she's going through something.

Speaker 22 She's more fun to root for in this moment because Kyle, I don't know what to feel because she is not really, she's being vague in the information, which she has every right to be.

Speaker 22 I just, I'm like, I don't know what my feelings are on this. Like, I, I don't know.
I think I'm team Darit. Yeah.

Speaker 22 I think I have to be team Dorete because as much as I love Kyle and I, as much as I give her a name when I order her at Starbucks, something about Doreet, I like on the verge, flying down the canyon, smoking a cigarette.

Speaker 22 I'm like, this woman has no fucks to give. And therefore, I believe she's going to come and be honest.
That's what you want to see on Housewives. And you don't, it's not fun.

Speaker 22 And not that it's for fun or entertainment, even though it's a show, but it's like, and she's done a deeply personal, painful thing. Not painful, but just sensitive thing.

Speaker 22 It's not fun for someone to be cagey about something like this. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 22 I will also say, like, when they were picking on her hat that she wore for the surreal party, I'm like, you guys know that she's one of the only ones that's like actually kind of doing the surreal assignment.

Speaker 22 Sure. Y'all are dressed as woodland creatures.
Y'all are being like goofy. Yeah.
Wait, you're talking about... We're talking about Dorita.
Yeah, her thing that she wore to the Surrealism party.

Speaker 22 I thought it worked. I thought it worked.
Antlers didn't really make that.

Speaker 22 And why were they all in them? I don't know. We're talking about like Dali Surrealism.
Right. Magritte Surreal.
Magritte Surreal.

Speaker 22 Like wear an apple. Put an apple on your face.
You know, like do that. Yeah.
Some people were being goofy and random. It was too goofy for me.
No. Bose, I love.
I like Bose.

Speaker 22 I like Bose as a vibe, even though like whatever her career history is, is kind of weird and checkered. I don't know if it's checkered or not.
My question is just like, why?

Speaker 22 It's like when she was like, I worked here and here and here and here and here and here.

Speaker 22 And I don't want to be a lot of people. That's too many companies.
Usually when someone has worked at a lot of places, it means they've had to leave a lot of places.

Speaker 22 But I also don't want to take anything away from her because she's clearly a very dynamic, compelling

Speaker 22 iconic person. I'm very, I i think this is the right vibe and i don't really miss your crystal kong minkos oh i didn't even think about her

Speaker 22 i don't think about any of the housewives that aren't on anymore that's why whenever anyone's like oh we miss so-and-so i'm like we're gonna miss so-and-so i'm like you're not though the only exception is because maybe it's a full reboot is is roni because and we'll talk about roni's rony is nothing it's tough It is tough.

Speaker 22 I was rooting for them. We were all rooting for them.
We were all rooting for them. How dare him.

Speaker 22 This whole fucking aaron aaron i'm just like girl what are you doing to me she's not even the problem she's not even the problem but like the rebecca minka the prank quote unquote i'm like i hated the prank ducks balls yeah i hated the prank aaron didn't even need to do the prank because i was like you're one of the ones actually giving a storyline meanwhile like so many of them are not and i they can't get me to care about raquel they can't get me to care about raquel i don't even know the women from last season really it's like why are you suddenly doing raquel it's like i don't know the girls that we have on the show already right i'm like sorry what is what is uba about again like what happened to the hot sauce like i would love to know what happened with the hot sauce and i like the hot sauce jessel i i'm rooting for still in a way puvet makes it very tough that is one of the lamest motherfuckers to ever be on television yeah he

Speaker 22 sucks that huge that thing of like when straight men like nag their wives

Speaker 22 like the the the like thing of like oh i'm gonna be annoying as a a funny thing and eat on our therapy Zoom.

Speaker 22 I would turn to my husband and say, you better close your mouth and put that snack away right now. You're embarrassing me.
Disrespectful. You're embarrassing me while the cameras are on.

Speaker 22 Here's the thing. The reason why you're embarrassing me is because you are embarrassing yourself.
Yes.

Speaker 22 And now I'm on this television show on therapy and you are not being funny and you think you are and it's humiliating.

Speaker 22 And his thing of like constantly minimizing her, I get that she's no saint and like obviously like

Speaker 22 their relationship was established as being very like the meanness to each other. It's like a foreplay that they do, but it's like, dude, come on.
Come on.

Speaker 22 Now I'm like, oh, you're, you're just like a wannabe tech bro. You want to be able to

Speaker 22 be Elon. He wouldn't want the daughter to be Taylor Swift, but he would want his daughter, his son to be like Elon.
I was like, you said it all right.

Speaker 22 And I'm like, you jack-opted the cyber truck or something. Like he literally is like, I want a cyber truck.
I'm like, this is, this is our guy. Not our guy, but I'm just like, this is the guy.

Speaker 22 He's giving cabinet appointment. Oh, um.

Speaker 22 Okay, so OC, I thought Emily Simpson won the review. Emily Simpson.

Speaker 22 You're the dumbest girl ever. Don't, don't you dare call me dumbest girl.
You're the dumbest girl I've ever fucking met. I've ever fucking met.
I've ever fucking met.

Speaker 22 No lies told, though. No lies told.
Sorry, Alexis. Sorry, girl.
But you're a wonderful mother. She's a wonderful mother.

Speaker 22 I'm sure they're all wonderful mothers like these people they come on and I'm I just wonder like what did Alexis think this was gonna be like right what exactly did she think was gonna happen when she went fresh off getting together with the star of the show's like ex-husband ex-feoncé whatever it was

Speaker 22 and like have no like contrition about it did you expect it to have like a future on the show no you're in you're out out. Defense Against the Dark Arts.
Katie,

Speaker 22 that was tough. I wanted to come back, though.
I do.

Speaker 22 I want that as well. I think there's extrapolation there.

Speaker 22 I thought one of the lowest parts of the reunion was that I think it was Heather DeBrux, who I do like, brought up that years before Katie had had that legal situation.

Speaker 22 I was like, this is not relevant and feels petty. So petty.
And I think she felt bad. She felt bad.
And then that's why she went over. I don't know.
That's part of the reason why she went over.

Speaker 22 and Tamara, I don't, I

Speaker 22 buy it. I never buy it.
It needs to be a three times a week therapy for so many reasons. Potomac, I am so on board with.
Oh my God.

Speaker 22 Someone stopped me today in the street as I was getting into an Uber. She was like, hold on your window.
I was like, okay, what's she going to say? She goes, I just want to let you know.

Speaker 22 I love Giselle, but you and Matt changed my mind on it. And I said, but wait, she's fun again.
I like her. And then she's like, really? I'm going to start.
I need to start watching Potomac.

Speaker 22 So this obviously backed you down to share a particular

Speaker 22 we had helped her change her mind on Giselle because if anyone knows the history of our podcast and Giselle, we've been very anti. Yes.

Speaker 22 Now with Robin Dixon out of the picture, now that I think the producers, and then I think Giselle might have been a little, you know, scared by under her ass, something happened.

Speaker 22 Now she is, I think she's very enjoyable. And I never thought I would say those words.
I'm enjoying Giselle. I'm even enjoying Ashley.
Like,

Speaker 22 I'm actually enjoying the group as a whole. And I've also, I think Wendy is so much better when she's not feeling like she has to like anxiously be on the defensive all the time.
Ms. Stacey is.

Speaker 22 I am obsessed.

Speaker 22 She's here to stay. I said, I want Stacey in a confessional after every scene, even when she's not in.
I want her reacting to every single thing that happens on the show. The boyfriend is...

Speaker 22 Oh, I love it. It's too good.
No, I'm just...

Speaker 22 Can I just say, like, none of it is embarrassing.

Speaker 22 None of it, like, lowers any sort of thing i have for stacy like she is i'm will i will follow her to the ends of the earth i'm a stacey she's sarah shrimmer like that is the most beautiful woman sarah and i are she she she now takes the crown away from lisa barlow for you lisa has not been doing it for me lately i'm so sorry transitioning to self like yeah we are we are sort of at an impasse you and i with bronwin yes i'm very pro brawn win and i'm not to draw a comparison to puppets like rich people being funny and quirky is like taking a plane and going to Vietnam to eat a banh mi.

Speaker 22 And I don't know if this is fair to like, to like draw a parallel, but it's like you dress up in an inflatable dinosaur costume to go greet your husband or you have, I don't know, like tacky PJs and you have dog turds around the house.

Speaker 22 I'm like, something is off.

Speaker 22 You revealed what it really is about Broadwood, though, for you.

Speaker 22 It's one of the things, that's not the main reason, but she does trigger me and for lack of a better word to this awful person that I knew growing up. And it's because

Speaker 22 she talks like this and the way she confronts is with this. I don't like that tone of voice.
Yeah. Fucking hate it.

Speaker 22 I will say, for me, my like of Bronwyn is because I do think that she's able to explain her perspective in a way that I've noticed something about the Salt Lake women. They often don't get it.

Speaker 22 They can't, they can't explain their own point of view. They can't see the forest for their trees emotionally.
Like Lisa Barlow, most of all. And it's funny and it's great.

Speaker 22 I feel like Bronwyn is the most grounded. And she's like, no, I know how I feel.
My moral compass is what it is.

Speaker 22 You might not agree with it, but I'm going to eloquently and intelligently dress you down and get you together. No.
And she's like the first, like, good, like, on the spot, like.

Speaker 22 conversational like high EQ. Yes.
Sure.

Speaker 22 And then sometimes she lets lets things slip in a way that I'm like, whoa, where she's like, how did I bog your loyalty?

Speaker 22 I sat in first class because I, because it was my credit card, which, you know, I guess the first class of it all. I don't know.

Speaker 22 Like when she's, when she's backed into a corner in a real way, I think she kind of,

Speaker 22 it's tough.

Speaker 22 Yeah, but I do think, though, like, if you take all of your friends on a private plane to your home, for your anniversary with your husband, you do get to say to someone that they're being an asshole and it's fucked up when you paid for shit.

Speaker 22 I do think you get to say that

Speaker 22 as a real housewife of Salt Lake City.

Speaker 22 I think she's within her rights. No, Todd scares me, though.
Todd's scary, and I think we're going to see that marriage really kind of the hood of that pop up.

Speaker 22 That's Gerardi-ish as fuck. Yeah, but I think, not in a legal way, and like a, that setup is giving me Ajana.
I have not made up my mind on Bronwyn. I'm just, and I see potential for.
She's here.

Speaker 22 Look, if Giselle, if I can get, if Giselle can get me to like her, anything's possible. So and Bronwyn seems very, very, very

Speaker 22 interesting.

Speaker 22 And that's what the show thrives on. I think the fact that Heather is so pressed about Bronwyn is because I think Heather, Heather doesn't realize the audience can tell.

Speaker 22 Like, Heather's trying to make it about like, I am very protective of this group because we've been through a lot. Yes.

Speaker 22 And it's like, okay, that might be true, but what you're protective of is the dynamic of the group for special reasons and your status and Bronwyn makes the show better, but I don't know if in Heather's mind that's true because

Speaker 22 I think Bronwyn brings a big personality and takes up a lot of space. And when you're there, that's something I was thinking about.
Like I didn't even think about that with like housewives.

Speaker 22 I was actually watching an interview with Bozema. on Kelly Clarkson and Kelly was like, so what's been your experience of being on housewives?

Speaker 22 And Bozema goes, you know, it's not dissimilar to being in the boardroom. Uh-huh.

Speaker 22 She was like, you're all sitting there and you're trying to work out a problem or a solution and people are very convinced of themselves.

Speaker 22 And you have to be able to broker communications and conflict and resolve. And everyone has different things that they want.
She was like, I can liken it to that. And I was thinking about that.

Speaker 22 And I was like, you know, Bronwyn brings a new element to that boardroom.

Speaker 22 And you don't have a great set of minds on salt lake city i think in a boardroom sense i think you have a lot of people screaming very convinced of themselves and we have entertainment but bronwin is just bringing a new element to the boardroom and heather is uncomfortable with that but she should get totally she should get comfortable bronwin's here to say i do kind of bristle a bit at like the the vernacular sometimes yeah yeah yeah um

Speaker 22 who definitely makes the show better. I don't know if she makes the vernacular she possesses.
The vernacular she possessed. She does not have, but I think Bronwyn,

Speaker 22 I don't know if I agree with you yet that she makes the show better. Who makes the show objectively better? Talk about it.
Angie Kay. Angie Katanavis, we

Speaker 22 this is a stand account. This is a stand account for Angie Kay.

Speaker 22 You have shown vulnerability this season. You've also pulled the campiest stunts that loop all the way back around to them working.
The scroll is so stupid. You executed it so beautifully.

Speaker 22 Timing. And the timing of it was so bad that it was good.
It was brilliant. But I'm just saying, like, it was so bad that it was good.
You know, she, when she does like campy

Speaker 22 housewife things, like when she shows up and it's so clear, she knows she's on camera. For me, with her, with almost no one else, it's charming.
The awareness works. Yes.

Speaker 22 It's like, well, Meredith, I actually was going to want to talk to you about this, Meredith. I'm like, yes, Angie, wind up.
It's so beautiful. Oh, Lisa, you are not a good friend to me.

Speaker 22 And I think it's shown. Lisa, I'm speaking.
Like, I'm just like, you better be a housewife. Lauren, Matt's got an Andrew Kay.

Speaker 22 They gave me another shot. And I go in there with just Angie Kay.
And I go back in there years and years and years later for my third screen test at SNL after you're gone. Oh, my God.

Speaker 22 And I go, this, I'm Matt Rogers, and today I'll be doing Andrew Katsanevis. Immediately.
And I just do her for five minutes. Immediately.
Actually, no, I say for 15. I refuse to leave.

Speaker 22 Yeah, don't leave. You're doing it just.
Just like Angie K wouldn't. Oh my God.
We love you, Angie, so much. Can we come stay at your place this hot lake? I got the invite.
Oh, I was.

Speaker 22 I know, but I want to come too. No, can we both come, Angie? There's room in that house.

Speaker 34 Not just a tea, the band tee.

Speaker 32 From the last show, your favorite band ever played.

Speaker 85 He wore it everywhere.

Speaker 97 Then your boyfriend started wearing it, which was cute.

Speaker 73 Until he dumped you and took it with him.

Speaker 99 Anyway, now you're on eBay.

Speaker 55 And there it is. Same tea from the same tour still living in your memory rent-free forever.

Speaker 100 But eBay isn't just forgetting whatever your ex slash XBFF stole back.

Speaker 31 A RAV4 RAV4 from 2003?

Speaker 16 eBay.

Speaker 22 That's a good tagline.

Speaker 107 Well, with Xfinity Wi-Fi, it kind of is.

Speaker 41 It's Wi-Fi that keeps your whole home connected so you can actually enjoy the holiday magic, chaos-free.

Speaker 103 Your kid is video chatting their friends from their tablet, and your partner is shopping for too many gifts and cinnamon candles.

Speaker 113 Ah!

Speaker 79 What?

Speaker 25 It's one of America's most epic off-road adventures, and now every adventurer can plan, preview, and explore it themselves.

Speaker 24 You know, Matt and I weren't super familiar with the off-roading game until the summer when we took a dunes tour and went off-road.

Speaker 26 And now I totally get it.

Speaker 56 And I envy the adventure that people off-road take when they go to the Trans-America Trail.

Speaker 85 You in.

Speaker 123 Ready, set, Ford.

Speaker 38 I cracked open a Diet Coke, sat back for five minutes.

Speaker 22 Total reset.

Speaker 39 Right?

Speaker 42 Exactly.

Speaker 46 Diet Coke Coke, this is my taste.

Speaker 8 Two questions.

Speaker 13 What are you doing right now?

Speaker 57 And why aren't you on a Virgin Voyages Caribbean cruise?

Speaker 88 Well, obviously you were listening to us. Smart use of your time.

Speaker 113 True.

Speaker 57 But you could also be on a Virgin Voyages Caribbean cruise at the same time.

Speaker 8 That's just brilliant time management.

Speaker 80 Very true.

Speaker 111 This gives me an idea.

Speaker 46 Let's do a quick cruise quiz.

Speaker 124 Ready?

Speaker 89 First, cruise dining.

Speaker 22 Do you prefer a buffet or a curated dining experience with access to 20 distinct restaurants? Curated dining.

Speaker 46 Next.

Speaker 124 Okay, Okay, good choice. That's what Virgin Voyages offers.

Speaker 82 Second question.

Speaker 87 Would you rather have an overstuffed itinerary or the freedom to explore stunning?

Speaker 95 Oh, I want the freedom to explore stunning Caribbean destinations.

Speaker 94 Again, I think I see where this quiz is going.

Speaker 15 Virgin Voyages is amazing.

Speaker 46 Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 122 The cruises are kid-free.

Speaker 20 From sunrise yoga to late-night cocktails, every moment is made for grown-up fun.

Speaker 12 Nothing against kids.

Speaker 44 Kids are awesome, but sometimes it's nice to be kid-free.

Speaker 49 And there's so much included value, over $1,000. Right.

Speaker 10 Over $1,000 of awesomeness all included.

Speaker 108 Wi-Fi, soda, top-tier entertainment, over 20 restaurants, and even group fitness classes.

Speaker 75 No hidden fees, no surprise charges.

Speaker 12 Virgin Voyages gives you the kind of luxury you actually deserve.

Speaker 73 And you know what?

Speaker 87 I deserve luxury.

Speaker 46 You do, and me too. Yes.

Speaker 89 There's always something happening on board.

Speaker 106 From wellness-focused sailings to epic holiday voyages, live music, DJs, themed parties, and more.

Speaker 111 Boredom doesn't board the ship.

Speaker 14 And there are so many amazing stops.

Speaker 125 You leave from Miami and sail to places like Grand Cayman, Jamaica, Puerto Rico, and the Dominican Republic.

Speaker 120 Virgin even has their own private beach club in Bibini.

Speaker 77 And they're adding stops in 2025 and 2026.

Speaker 87 Yeah, like Aruba, St.

Speaker 71 Lucia, and Curaçao.

Speaker 22 But it's not all go, go, go.

Speaker 49 Right, you can totally go into relaxation mode too.

Speaker 20 Your cabin is a full-on sanctuary.

Speaker 115 Private terrace, ocean views, and their signature red hammock just waiting for you to swing.

Speaker 126 Oh, and did I mention Virgin Voyages is launching a new ship, the Brilliant Lady?

Speaker 8 Brilliant name, by the way. She's bigger, bolder, and packed with even more Virgin Wow Factor.

Speaker 106 Book now at virginvoyages.com or contact your travel advisor.

Speaker 10 That's virginvoyages.com.

Speaker 22 This is I don't think so, honey. This is the segment where we take one minute to rail against something in culture, and we are going to do just that right now.
Okay, yes, I have something.

Speaker 22 I alluded to it earlier in the episode, and I just yeah, I'm ready to go. Okay, this is not Rogers.

Speaker 22 I i don't think so when he's time starts now i don't think so honey that sebastian stan doesn't get to do an actors on actors for the apprentice for variety because no one would sit with him and talk about that movie crazy he was quoted as saying that no actor would agree to sit down with him and talk about the donald trump biopic that he is in that is so cowardly and stupid i don't know if it's the publicists I don't know if it's the actors themselves.

Speaker 22 Just sit down and talk with this man about his good work. And he's also in another movie called A Different Man, which is getting rave reviews.
He apparently gives a terrific performance.

Speaker 22 Of course, he does. This guy is a great actor.
He takes himself seriously. Like,

Speaker 22 because you're, what, scared of blowback? Trump voters aren't watching the variety actors on actors. I agree for you.

Speaker 22 I don't think so, honey. That's one minute.
I'm just saying, Sebastian Stan, if I had a movie out there, I would sit down with you. You would go on hot ones?

Speaker 22 You would do actors on actors with Sebastian. I would do anything.
Michael Fisher would dress you both.

Speaker 22 I love Sebastian Stan. him.
And I didn't like seeing him be disrespected because he shows up. You know, he looks like he does a great job at his stuff.
He seems like a nice guy.

Speaker 22 We've heard that he's such a sweet, nice guy. And I think it was incredibly brave of him to do that movie.
Yes. And someone should step up and not be a loser.

Speaker 22 And especially now, you would get a lot of credit for doing it. Of course.
So

Speaker 22 because he called it out. Yeah.
And I'm happy that he did. Yeah, me too.

Speaker 22 Because that is really important. Because are you telling me that

Speaker 22 now we're going to take what's happened and move forward in fear? No, no fucking way. That implies the mandate.

Speaker 22 And let him host Destinil.

Speaker 22 Yeah. Lauren.

Speaker 22 I don't know if he... Do you think he would want to do that? I've heard that he wants to.
Oh, great. And I would love for him to do that.
He would be fantastic.

Speaker 22 I mean, for him and Itanya, it's like he can do a fun voice, a fun accent. He can commit.
He's my favorite actor. That's all you need.
I'm on record on this podcast. He's my favorite actor.

Speaker 22 Sebastian, I watch you before I audition. Oh, that's so beautiful.

Speaker 22 And it works. Because she books.

Speaker 22 I'll do one really quickly. Yes.
Okay. So this is Bowen Yang's.
I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 22 On the Friendsgiving episode of Waste Coast, we hope you've all enjoyed celebrating Thanksgiving with us. We hope you had a snack and a cocktail.
Or not, or not.

Speaker 22 This is Bowen Yangs. I don't think so honey.
It's time starts now. I don't think so, honey,

Speaker 22 pejorative on theater kids at this point. It's like, we get it.
Like, it's fun to make fun of them, but also, like, what's the alternative?

Speaker 22 Um, these people grow up and have no outlet for their creativity, the innate creativity that all human beings have.

Speaker 22 And what, they grew up to be a fucking like mass shooter? Like, shut up. Like, stop it.
Don't, don't, like, stop this culture. Like,

Speaker 22 look, you got two theater kids in front of you. Well, I'm one of them, not you.
Like, I think you are late. Yeah, but I count.
I count. You do count.
We both give off theater. I'm a theater.

Speaker 22 I'm a late in life theater kid. This is the thing.
It's like, you know, the alternative is bad. Okay.
Right. So, like, not too much on the theater kid, you know, put non-fiction or like,

Speaker 22 it's not even that, like, I am annoyed that people are making fun of them. I'm just like, can't we do better as a culture? It's like the least original thing when people like

Speaker 22 one. And I'm like,

Speaker 22 you don't really know me that well. I have sex and I play video games as well.
Yeah. That's one minute.
He fucks, he plays video games and he's a theater kid. Boeing.
And I'm a dancer.

Speaker 22 period and he danced down in wicked the discourse online has gotten

Speaker 22 so bad that everyone's going to blue sky now i'm like this is gonna become garbage too though this is

Speaker 22 either a social media platform becomes for like suburban people who um

Speaker 22 don't really give a fuck about it's a funny little bit yeah well it's like it's like facebook is for moms we love moms instagram is for like is a mall now millennials like like social media always no but it's not even for millennials it just it's it always every platform veers off into some yeah thing crazy new identity that was that has nothing that had nothing to do with what it originally was meant to do yeah like facebook being for moms it's like not not nothing against moms it was just it was for cool college students yeah and then it became something totally different like it just will always fall off a cliff.

Speaker 22 And

Speaker 22 like podcasting is kind of not that it's a social media platform, but podcasting is sort of it's so funny. I'm like, God, like Matt and I are kind of like keeping it old school.

Speaker 22 Oh, this is for sure an old school podcast. It's so weird.
We gotta, we gotta end the podcast. The chef is coming.
We're having a chef cook using a check. Gifted a shot.

Speaker 22 Gifted a chef. It's such a lovely gift.
You know,

Speaker 22 happy Friendsgiving, everyone. This is our episode.
Happy Thanksgiving tomorrow.

Speaker 22 I apologize on this episode. I'm a little nasal.
I have a little allergies, but we still are going to soldier on and end every episode. We love you so much.

Speaker 22 You wanna wear ever clothes? I went missing my body.

Speaker 22 If you are lucky enough to go see the short and sweet tour internationally, go do it. It's the first song Sabrina performa.

Speaker 22 Lost Culture Ace This is the production by Will Farrell's Big Money Players and iHeart Radio Podcasts. Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang.

Speaker 18 Executive produced by Anna Hosnier and Hans Sani.

Speaker 26 Produced by Becca Ramos. Edited and mixed by Doug Babe and Monique Laborde.

Speaker 22 And our music is by Henry Komersky.

Speaker 58 Hey everybody, it's me, Matt Rogers, letting you know tickets are on sale now to see me on tour. The Prince of Christmas tour, that is.

Speaker 59 I'm doing my whole album, Have You Heard of Christmas, plus a lot more, with the whole band all throughout December.

Speaker 61 Go to www.mattrogersofficial.com to see me in a city near you.

Speaker 61 Want to tackle one of America's most epic off-road adventures?

Speaker 83 Well, Ford and Google Maps just trekked over 5,900 miles to put the Trans-America Trail on street view so every adventurer can explore the trail.

Speaker 56 How'd they do it?

Speaker 103 By equipping the 2025 Ford Bronco Badlands with Google's new street view camera, while the Expedition Tremor and Ranger Lariat carry the team and tools that made it all possible.

Speaker 22 So challenge yourself. See what you're capable of.
Let your Ford handle the rest.

Speaker 123 Ready? Set Ford.

Speaker 22 I'm stressed.

Speaker 7 I got invited to a friend's giving, and now there's the big question of what to bring.

Speaker 118 Well, just bring a bottle of Casamigos.

Speaker 8 Oh, Casamigos, of course.

Speaker 70 Nothing brings people together like a batch of Casamigos margaritas.

Speaker 76 A Casamigos margarita really is the perfect cocktail.

Speaker 79 Plus, Casamigos goes with everything.

Speaker 77 Turkey, stuffing, mac and cheese.

Speaker 89 Oh, I was thinking more cranberry juice or ginger beer, but that works too.

Speaker 53 Well, you know, the iconic rule of culture number 743.

Speaker 22 Anything goes with my Casamigos.

Speaker 73 This France giving, you know what everyone will be grateful for?

Speaker 22 Casamigos? I was going to say you.

Speaker 46 And Casamigos.

Speaker 70 Ooh, let's keep it in that order.

Speaker 108 Please drink responsibly.

Speaker 9 Imported by Casamigo Spirits Company, White Plains, New York.

Speaker 65 Casamigos tequila, 40% alcohol by volume.

Speaker 84 There's pressure systems moving in Bo in the form of cuffing season.

Speaker 4 Potential heavy clouds of nostalgia around the necks, windstorms from a current situation ship, and light drivels of you up, techs, are incoming.

Speaker 113 It's the chill in the air that brings about this behavior.

Speaker 82 In the midst of cuffing season, there's one place where the microclimate is clear communication, radical honesty, and open-mindedness, and that's fields.

Speaker 108 It's a connections app that asks you to show up and articulate your desires as clearly as you understand them now. And if you don't understand them, say that.

Speaker 111 The Field community is made up of so many different kinds of people ranging in experience, interests, and desires.

Speaker 115 Here you can have the space to change, to be honest, and to always be curious.

Speaker 86 Wondering what that looks like?

Speaker 74 Here's a snapshot of Field.

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Speaker 125 Sometimes attraction takes time.

Speaker 116 Here, you don't have to make a split decision in order to see another person.

Speaker 51 Skip profiles, go back, and take the time you need to decide if you really like someone.

Speaker 115 You can expand your curiosity.

Speaker 111 There are over 20 sexuality and gender identities listed on Field. In this space, you can explore who you are, Sans Judgment.

Speaker 57 And there's no pretending.

Speaker 10 There's no need to write your profile like a job application and pretend to be what someone else wants.

Speaker 108 Within the Field community, the cultural norm is to be radically honest.

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More episodes from Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

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"Elevated Messy" (w/ Rachel Sennott)

"The Protagonist" (w/ Heather Gay)

“Drinkin' The Soda” (w/ Brittany Snow)

"All Up In The Macabre" (w/ Sarah Paulson)