What a Weekday: Kamala on the Blitz, Elon on the Fritz

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And I left my house, drove reasonably fast

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Speaker 3 All right, let's get into it. What a weekday.

Speaker 3 And you know what that sound means? The Kamala Harris media blitz has begun. On Sunday, Kamala appeared on Call Her Daddy, one of the most popular podcasts in the country after this one.

Speaker 3 During her interview, Harris addressed Sarah Huckabee Sanders' recent snide comment about her lack of biological children.

Speaker 6 I saw the governor of Arkansas said, my kids keep me humble. Unfortunately, Kamala Harris doesn't have anything keeping her humble.

Speaker 6 How did that make you feel?

Speaker 7 I don't think she understands

Speaker 7 that there are a whole lot of women out here

Speaker 7 who, one, are not aspiring to be humble.

Speaker 7 Two, a whole lot of women out here

Speaker 1 who have a lot of love in their life,

Speaker 7 family in their life, and children in their life. And I think it's really important for women to lift each other up.

Speaker 3 Lift women up. That's the signal.
She gave us the signal, said the Black Ops exhumation crew hired by the DNC to search Ivana's golf course coffin.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that was worth it.

Speaker 1 I laughed, it just wasn't that loud.

Speaker 3 Three takes. Kamala went on to talk about her relationship with her stepchildren, Cole and Ella.

Speaker 7 They are my children, and I love those kids to death. And

Speaker 7 family comes in many forms. And I think that

Speaker 7 increasingly,

Speaker 7 you know, all of us understand that, you know, this is not the 1950s anymore.

Speaker 3 Unless the body cams are off, of course.

Speaker 4 That was a good joke. Nothing of that.

Speaker 3 All right.

Speaker 3 Their conversation about abortion rights included this moment.

Speaker 6 Can we try

Speaker 6 to think of any law

Speaker 6 that gives the government the power to make a decision

Speaker 6 about

Speaker 6 a man's body.

Speaker 8 No,

Speaker 8 no.

Speaker 8 Is there any law?

Speaker 3 But you know what? There should be. We need a federal ban on men getting Marvel tattoos.
Buddy, you're not Venom. You don't have anti-hero energy.

Speaker 3 You're just a medium guy who doesn't change his sheets enough.

Speaker 5 Can I just say, like, that question and the way that she asked it, like, she really thought she cooked with that. Yeah.
And like, that is the reason.

Speaker 5 This is the second episode of Call Her Daddy that I've listened to in full. The first one was Arianomatics.

Speaker 5 And that is the reason I cannot listen to this show.

Speaker 5 And I know that I'm not the only one out there. And I just want to say that if you want to hear the same style or the same

Speaker 5 more personality-driven discussion with the vice president,

Speaker 5 but also addressing actual issues. She was on All the Smoke last week and they talked about a lot of the same things and it didn't get nearly as much attention.

Speaker 3 It got, yes, I agree. But it also, like, that was also a great interview and it is like part of this story of like her going to the other places.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I also want to say that the Caller Daddy set looks like it's like the waiting room where you wait to find out if you got chlamydia, but like they tell you through an app.

Speaker 1 Does that make sense?

Speaker 3 I just all is that their actual set though, or did they redress a place where Kamala Harris was going to be?

Speaker 1 Because the Call Her Daddy is off-center.

Speaker 3 Well, because this, this is the, the, I, I believe we're getting really into the

Speaker 1 leaps off the screen when you're like, oh, I, okay.

Speaker 3 You know, but I don't know what, because

Speaker 3 Alex Cooper put out a video that basically they had before the hurricane, before Helene hit, they had set up a

Speaker 3 hotel room in Las Vegas to film this interview because they're basically just going to where Kamala would be, where she would have the time.

Speaker 3 So I don't know if this is their actual day-to-day set or what they set up for her to be able to do this.

Speaker 1 It does look like a hastily assembled 2010 girl boss.

Speaker 5 It's the wing. They're in the wing.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Nice. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And then on Monday, 60 minutes aired their sit-down with the vice president, opening their show with this ice-cold intro explaining how Donald Trump backed out of the interview, which I think we should play in its entirety.

Speaker 10 The campaign offered shifting explanations. First, it complained that we would fact-check the interview.
We fact-check every story. Later, Trump said he needed an apology for his interview in 2020.

Speaker 10 Trump claims correspondent Leslie Stahl said in that interview that Hunter Biden's controversial laptop came from Russia. She never said that.

Speaker 3 Nice.

Speaker 3 Great stuff.

Speaker 5 It'd be cool if you just did like a daily recap of the things that Trump said that weren't true.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Trump said Jews cause hurricanes.
They do not.

Speaker 3 There was this media news cycle around

Speaker 3 what Press Kamala Harris is or isn't doing. For a while, it was, oh, she's not doing any interviews.

Speaker 3 Then she announces that she's doing the National Association of black journalists they announced that she's doing 60 minutes and univision and also call her daddy stern the late show etc tim walls is on fox news sunday and there are still like political reporters saying oh well she doesn't want to do serious interviews even if you put aside the fact that she's doing all of these actually serious

Speaker 3 interviews like it is like sort of refusing to acknowledge that, hey, like these institutions don't have the reach they once did. Like it's really stratified.

Speaker 3 People go for information to a bunch of different places. And to get in front of actual people, they have to go to all these other news sources.

Speaker 3 That's like a problem. That's not like a good thing.

Speaker 3 Like, I do, like, it was frustrating that they were so critical of her for doing all these things and ignoring the fact that she is still doing the mainstream serious publications because we like the world is a

Speaker 3 worse place because 60 minutes is going to reach far fewer people than a bunch of apolitical stuff. And the fact that, like, it used to be that if you, that there was no competition,

Speaker 3 like when the news was on and the news was on all the channels, that was what was on. There was no competition from Netflix.
There's no competition from their, from people's phones.

Speaker 3 And like, I don't know. Like, I'm glad that like 60 Minutes as an institution, as like, as like, it's sort of like putting a little flag in the sand and saying, like, this is what we do.

Speaker 3 We're going to keep doing it until they close the doors and lock them and sell the 60 Minutes brand to a YouTube channel to hawk some various products.

Speaker 1 And in the meantime, Kamala Hairs must go on hot ones. Kamala Hairs must go on hot ones.
Go on hot ones. Go on hot ones.

Speaker 3 I want to see, like, I do think,

Speaker 3 I do think if we look back on this moment and like we lose, which is very possible, obviously,

Speaker 3 Donald Trump going to those places, like going on Theo Vaughn's pod, doing this stuff with sort of big YouTubers, like that will be pointed to as evidence of how he managed to do that.

Speaker 1 She should sit down with Theo Vaughn, absolutely. Yeah,

Speaker 3 like,

Speaker 3 we have to get somebody big on Rogan. Like, oh, he's a bad guy.
Okay.

Speaker 3 Someone's got to go on Rogan, Theo Vaughn. We got to go to all those places.
Just, we have to.

Speaker 3 During her interview, Harris announced a new policy designed to ease the burden of Americans taking care of aging parents in addition to their kids, letting Medicare pay for long-term health care at home.

Speaker 3 Incredible. Now she just has to go on an anime podcast I've never heard of with 80 million weekly downloads so that people can actually hear about it.

Speaker 3 Harris also reiterated that she is, in fact, a gun owner.

Speaker 4 I have a Glock,

Speaker 7 and I've had it for quite some time.

Speaker 3 Look, does this make me uncomfortable? A little bit. But a campaign ad where Kamala fires that Glock at a shooting range while talking about abortion rights in a voiceover?

Speaker 3 A bullseye followed by a wink to the camera, landslide. Landslide victory.
It's over.

Speaker 1 Wouldn't hurt. Wouldn't hurt.

Speaker 3 She should be firing that Glock up in the air like Yosemite Sam.

Speaker 1 Wearing a camo Harris Walls hat. Sure.
Forget about it. A camo cowboy hat.
Sure. Okay.

Speaker 3 Okay. It's getting more.
We're moving into the drag, the drag zone.

Speaker 1 Well, you got to look at like Donald Trump. I feel like Donald Trump has become a mask of himself.
So I feel like she's got to get a little, what do they call it, peacocking?

Speaker 1 She might have to go with a big hat.

Speaker 3 Donald Trump is smart enough to not put himself in other kinds of hats. He knows that he can only be in the magazine.
And he has to wear the, and you never, you'll never see Donald Trump put on.

Speaker 3 I guess maybe you do now once in a while. He will, I think, have his hair done under a hat so that he can remove the hat.
But like, when you see Donald Trump in a hat, that's a part of his carapace.

Speaker 1 He's a cartoon character. Like he cannot change and he is smart.
He's got hat discipline.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Harris will also sit for interviews with Howard Stern, Stephen Colbert, and the host of The View. She'll be eating increasingly hot chicken wings during all of them.

Speaker 3 That's just because she's super stressed.

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Speaker 3 Monday marked the one-year anniversary of the October 7th Hamas attacks in southern Israel, which set off the ongoing war and humanitarian crisis in Gaza.

Speaker 3 Hard to believe it's already been a whole year of trying and failing to write even one joke about any of this before deleting the whole section and focusing on mudang.

Speaker 3 Nothing to say about that. Trump also went on Hugh Hewitt's radio show on Monday to say this.

Speaker 9 Israel has to do one thing to have to get smart about Trump because they don't back me. I did more for Israel than anybody.
I did more for the Jewish people than anybody.

Speaker 9 And it's not a reciprocal, as I say.

Speaker 3 Two points about this. First of all, just very cool that he's using Israel and Jewish people interchangeably now.
Just a convenient shorthand, never led to anything horrific before.

Speaker 3 Also, I can't prove this, obviously, but you all know that he's picturing Diamond District as households, right?

Speaker 3 Like, he's when he's talking about Jewish people, he's basically saying to Hugh Hewitt, like,

Speaker 3 these people are jewing me down on Israel. Like, that's what he's getting at.
It's not reciprocal. He's like, not getting a good deal.

Speaker 3 That's what he's, it's like, these, these Jews, they're driving their usual hard bargain, you know, with their hooked noses and their fucking this.

Speaker 1 Did you see he went to visit Rabbi Schneerson's grave yesterday and offered to sign a prayer book? Yes, he did.

Speaker 3 He also did a, he offered to sign a prayer book, 10 out of 10. He also

Speaker 3 had a memorial at his golf course. Like he didn't, he wouldn't, they did the event at Miami, his course.
Like that's, because what, you just, you won't even leave the house?

Speaker 5 That person, I assume, is not buried there.

Speaker 3 No, he went somewhere. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 No, no, the, the rabbi is not buried at Trump dural. But uh, oh, he does these things.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no. Yeah, God knows who's under there.
there.

Speaker 3 During his campaign rallies over the weekend, Donald Trump leaned hard into spreading misinformation. Here he is in Butler, the rally he put on with Elon Musk.

Speaker 12 Because they don't have people there. They don't have the people.
All of the people in North Carolina. No helicopters, no rescue.
It's just

Speaker 12 what's happened there is very bad. They're offering them $750 to people whose homes have been washed away.

Speaker 3 Just a flat out lie, easily debunked. It's like he came back to Butler, Pennsylvania, to see if he could make God regret saving his life.

Speaker 3 Officials and lawmakers from both parties have been pleading for the misinformation to stop. Kevin Corbin, a GOP state representative in North Carolina, wrote on Facebook, please help stop this junk.

Speaker 3 It is just a distraction to people trying to do their job. When Donald Trump made up lies about Mexicans, I did not speak up because I was not a Mexican and was kind of into it.

Speaker 3 When Donald Trump made up lies about trans people, I did not speak up because that kind of weirds me out.

Speaker 3 When Donald Trump made up lies about my community in the wake of a devastating natural disaster, I actually didn't reflect on the other shit at all.

Speaker 3 But also, I'm in an emergency, so it's a lot to ask that I also reflect on my broader politics right now.

Speaker 3 So it's like in fairness.

Speaker 3 Meanwhile, coastal areas of Florida that were just battered by Hurricane Helene are soon to be hit by Hurricane Milton, which had reached category five and fall into category four by Tuesday morning.

Speaker 3 As you're recording this, the storm hasn't hit yet, but depending on how bad the damage is, by tomorrow we should know if the Jews caused it.

Speaker 3 Meanwhile, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis reportedly refused to take a call from Kamala Harris earlier this week.

Speaker 3 According to NBC News, the DeSantis aide said the vice president was trying to reach out and we didn't answer because the call seemed political.

Speaker 3 First of all, how do you know how political a call seems while it's ringing?

Speaker 3 It would actually be awesome if calls vibes could be foretold by the ring so you could know if a friend was calling because they are bored and driving or because they need someone's help to move, you know?

Speaker 3 But they don't work that way.

Speaker 3 Oh, this sounds like it's going to be about boxes. You know, you have no idea what a call is going to be.
When your mother calls it like at not your

Speaker 3 usual time, it's like, is she bored?

Speaker 1 Or did somebody die? Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 The same way that like cars should have different beeps based on how you feel. A phone should ring differently based on what the call is.

Speaker 3 It would be really nice to have, like,

Speaker 3 I think if we get in the car, and we are in just the hackiest of 1980s comedy territory here, but like, let's, let's, let's see, that's our real house.

Speaker 3 That, like, just practically, like, the horn that I feel is the most missing is like,

Speaker 3 excuse me. Just like, just, just drawing your attention.
You're on your phone. It is kind of silly.

Speaker 3 Just like a, like, just a wake wake up a little. This is not an emergency.

Speaker 5 I blew a tire on the highway the other day and people were honking at me, which I gen, like to let me know that my tire had been gone because my pressure signal hadn't come on yet.

Speaker 5 And because I also have a bumper sticker on the back of my car that says, honk if you love the mummy.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 Finish your thought.

Speaker 5 Yeah. So I get like, I'll be driving on the highway and people will honk, which is very, because of the bumper sticker.

Speaker 1 That's like hell. And then they'll leave.
Yes.

Speaker 5 So I honk.

Speaker 3 Honk if you love the mummy.

Speaker 5 It says, yeah, honk if you you think like the 1999's The Mummy is like the most perfect movie ever. It's from, it's a lot of people in LA have this bumper sticker.
No, they don't. Yes, they do.

Speaker 5 No, they don't.

Speaker 1 Yes, they do.

Speaker 3 Never heard of it. Never seen it.
We all live in LA. Has anyone ever seen me honk if you like the 90 sticky?

Speaker 1 I heard it's like similar.

Speaker 5 I've seen

Speaker 5 a lot of people have this bumper. It's from Super Yaki.
It's a really popular movie company.

Speaker 3 Honk if you like the mummy? Yes.

Speaker 1 I'm not alone in this.

Speaker 1 It's a sticker.

Speaker 13 When you're on a way to see some film in the Vista and you're no, have you seen it? Oh, yeah. But often it's like more text than that, right?

Speaker 5 It's a long, I'm misquoting it.

Speaker 1 It's a long bumper sticker.

Speaker 13 If you'd rather be watching the 1999 classic cinematic masterpiece of

Speaker 1 Brandon Frazier and Rachel, there we go.

Speaker 5 Anyway, it's on the back of my car. And so I get honked at a lot on the highway, and usually then people pass and they're like waving because they're acknowledging it.

Speaker 5 So when I blew my tire out the other day, I did not know that they were honking to warn me of the tire.

Speaker 1 So I could have used a different honk.

Speaker 3 Did you feel that there was a problem?

Speaker 5 It was just at that moment where it was like about to go down. So I just hadn't caught on to it yet.

Speaker 1 You just need a second sticker, so it's honk if you love the mummy, or if my tire is blown out,

Speaker 1 you'll know. It was my first flat tire.

Speaker 5 I'd never had a flat tire before, so it was like I was navigating a new territory.

Speaker 1 Where were you?

Speaker 5 On the 134, heading towards the Glendale Galleria to take a walk.

Speaker 3 What a sad diversion from a wonderful time.

Speaker 3 Were you going to Dentai Fine?

Speaker 5 No, I was probably going to go to the Cheesecake Factory.

Speaker 3 Oh, nice.

Speaker 3 Did that all get fucked up by the tire?

Speaker 5 Yeah, though, I will say the tow truck came in only 20 minutes. Thank you, Honda Roadside Assistance.
It was great. Shout out to Hyde Roadside Assistance.

Speaker 1 Get it for Honda Roadside Assistants.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's not associated with the car company. It's a person named Honda who's very fast and loves the mummy.
Harris was asked about DeSantis not taking her call. She said this.

Speaker 3 It's just utterly irresponsible and it is selfish and it is about political gamesmanship instead of doing the job that you shouldn't ought to do.

Speaker 3 When asked in a subsequent press conference, DeSantis claimed not to know about Kamala's calls. I didn't know she called me, Ron told the press.
I was not aware of that. That is just a lie.

Speaker 3 Just obviously just a person lying. We are no longer in the era where you can not know that somebody called.

Speaker 3 We actually don't get to not know anything about anybody and it's creating a whole lot of problems. But in this one case, we can pretty well be sure he knew she called.

Speaker 3 Also, your aide told the press that you purposely didn't take the call. So you're in the the middle of an upcoming natural disaster, the second one in as many weeks.

Speaker 3 You're preparing for that occurrence. The sitting vice president calls.
Your aide sends it to voicemail. Your aide then tells the press that you sent it to voicemail on purpose because fuck you.

Speaker 3 Then no one told you about this plan. You had no idea this happened.

Speaker 1 That's like what?

Speaker 3 It used to be there was at least some

Speaker 3 Some if you're a sitting look members of Congress have always been fucking turds and weird

Speaker 3 Always been liars in politics, but it used to be there was some show to pretend you weren't lying or to have some plausible defense of your lie.

Speaker 3 There was some effort to ground what you were saying in some kernel of defensible, objective reality that you could claim. But this is not that.

Speaker 1 It's interesting because I feel like I would only try to be governor to give the illusion that I had gravitas and power when I knew inside I'm a worm. But he doesn't even care.

Speaker 1 Like, it's just like you don't even want the thing that you, why did you do this if you're just going to humiliate yourself on it in the news?

Speaker 3 Still wants to be president.

Speaker 5 I just feel like if, if the vice president calls any of us, we're going to know.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 3 it might say

Speaker 3 like restricted or unknown number, right? Like that might be the case, but that it can't.

Speaker 5 She's leaving a message.

Speaker 3 She's absolutely leaving a message. And your aide already told reporters why you didn't take the call.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 This is part of a little plan you had.

Speaker 1 In the middle of a hurricane.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 To kind of, to be like, as, as like, it is the like, you know, this, the, the little stinker political error, too, because like he has made a point, DeSantis made a point that the Biden administration is, it's a way for him to

Speaker 3 behave like a governor the way other Republican governors have, which is to say that the Biden administration is doing everything they possibly can while doing a little bit to shive the Democrats.

Speaker 4 That's sort of get a little bit of politics in there.

Speaker 3 Pretty gross.

Speaker 3 Harris also took Trump to task for his nonstop lies about Hurricane Helene.

Speaker 14 There's a lot of mis and disinformation being pushed out there by the former president about what is available, in particular, to the survivors of Helene.

Speaker 14 And first of all, it's extraordinarily irresponsible. It's about him.
It's not about you.

Speaker 14 And the reality is that FEMA has so many resources that are available to folks who desperately need them.

Speaker 3 I do think it matters that

Speaker 3 Republican governors, Republican senators like Tom Tillis are out there saying that what Trump is doing is disgusting and not helpful. Or

Speaker 3 some are willing to go far enough to call it disgusting, but most are just at least saying it's wrong and not helpful.

Speaker 3 And it is like a, it's not the most important reason that we have to win this election, but

Speaker 3 four years from now, the AI little girls in vests holding puppies will be more convincing. Our ability to separate fact and fiction will be even more difficult.
And

Speaker 3 it really will depend on

Speaker 3 people having some kind of hygiene in the internet, in the way they consume the internet. But that's a lot to ask.
So then it will come down to like

Speaker 3 public officials and like their willingness to kind of like tell the truth or at least call out stuff that is false. And

Speaker 3 with each passing year, there are fewer and fewer Republicans willing to do that. And until we like,

Speaker 3 this does feel like, for a variety of reasons, our last chance to defeat this version of Trumpism so that other Republicans view it as a loser, so that they can start to move back, not even in a more moderate direction, but just in a less

Speaker 3 fascistic direction. They can keep their right-wing terrible policies.
They can keep their, they'll keep their heinous abortion policy, whatever.

Speaker 3 They'll keep their rash of actual political views that we find important, but like on policy,

Speaker 3 but like to move away from this kind of like conspiratorial paranoid politics,

Speaker 3 to make clear that that's a loser, because

Speaker 3 I'm glad you have media institutions denouncing this stuff.

Speaker 3 I think local news still matters, but like the most effective weapon against Republican misinformation right now has been Republicans, and there are fewer and fewer people willing to say that.

Speaker 3 So sort of just a

Speaker 3 it is another, like this week has been another reminder of the stakes because imagine if this happens, Donald Trump is president, he's only sending aid to Republican states.

Speaker 3 They're making up lies about what Democratic politicians are doing in

Speaker 3 their states. It's just like, we just, we can't, how do you have a society with these people?

Speaker 1 I don't think like the idea that if you, because obviously we had that story last week about him equivocating on sending aid to blue states and potentially benefiting red states, but it's like that is only true up until the point that he has a personal grievance with, say, a Republican governor, like Brian Kemp.

Speaker 1 So if any Republicans out here and thinks, well, I'll be on the side while he'll look after me, the second you do, the second you send the wrong email,

Speaker 1 he will threaten your state.

Speaker 1 So the idea that like that, they're like some sort of cohesive group that they're going to benefit from Trump's presidency is a lie because Trump only knows how to have conflict.

Speaker 1 He will have conflict with you when things get worse and worse. He'll turn on Ron DeSantis like he'll turn on all these Republican governors as soon as it's inconvenient to him.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 The other part of it that's so like kind of dispiriting too is that

Speaker 3 the reason this kind of paranoid conspiratorial politics is effective and it's part of how Trump ran and won in 2016, it's how he could almost win now, is a lot of Americans believe this is how the government always operated.

Speaker 3 That like the way Trump describes politics, the way Trump views politics, what he would do if he were to win is how people think it does work. They think it is already about friend.

Speaker 3 And it's when it's actually genuinely in these moments not, at least it hasn't been.

Speaker 3 Obviously there's exceptions, but like

Speaker 3 people are so cynical about government, they believe it operates in the way Donald Trump would make it operate if he won, which is just this like ridiculous catch-22 at the heart of all of this that I find very frustrating.

Speaker 3 And then there's Elon Musk. Here he is at the rally in Pennsylvania, physically leaping into the air once he took the stage.

Speaker 12 American car company in generations and his rocket company is the only reason we can now send American astronauts into space.

Speaker 1 Come here.

Speaker 12 Take over, Elon. Yes, take over.

Speaker 3 Richest man in the world. At any given moment, he could be anywhere on the planet doing anything at all.

Speaker 3 And somehow, at this moment, he is doing the saddest possible thing in the shittiest possible place.

Speaker 3 Elon told the crowd

Speaker 1 this.

Speaker 3 He's wearing a black MAGA hat. As you can see, I'm not just MAGA.
I'm dark MAGA.

Speaker 3 Very shrewd the way the Trump campaign brought in Elon Musk so that J.D. Vance would seem less like a web form poisoned incel loser.
Imagine being Elon Musk and bombing at a MAGA rally.

Speaker 3 The most receptive crowd that doesn't work for him that he'll ever be in front of. It's like eating shit at your own bar mitzvah.

Speaker 3 Unbelievable. Just the like, I hope it's drugs, honestly.
It's the only way. I like we've talked about, I don't want to talk about Elon.

Speaker 1 I'm sick of it. We have to.
I'm sorry. He is funding Trump's run.
Nobody wants to talk about Elon. He has made himself a pivotal point of our political system.
Nobody wants it, but here we are.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 3 Well, Well, we were in Pennsylvania. We did this show in Pittsburgh, obviously, and we did Potse of America in Philly.
Everybody should listen to that show. It's a great show.

Speaker 3 It's actually one of my favorite live shows that we've done with Potsey America. And

Speaker 1 there are,

Speaker 3 I think in Pennsylvania,

Speaker 3 this is maybe not exactly right. I think this is right.
But basically, the most money ever spent. by super PACs for one candidate is currently being spent in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 3 And my understanding is that it's all coming from just a few billionaires. And those are billionaires who I think some of them make their money via,

Speaker 3 what's it called, that kind of like fast action trading, the hyper, the companies that do the kind of like thousands of trades per second type trading. What's the name you heard that's called?

Speaker 1 No one in the story. Put it in the comments.

Speaker 1 What is the stock market? Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Anyway, stocks.
So, but like, that's millions and millions of dollars. And I am sure that that is ideologically driven.
A lot of these billionaires are ideologically driven.

Speaker 3 But also, like, I'm sure it's in part insurance for having Donald Trump in the White House, who is 100% transactional, even in on Israel. He's like, they're not being reciprocal.
Like, so

Speaker 3 what a down payment, right? Help make sure that you put Donald Trump in the White House and you'll have an SEC that's favorable to you because they're corrupt.

Speaker 3 And like, Elon is a living embodiment of that kind of corruption. He has billions and billions of dollars of interests from the federal government.

Speaker 3 It will be very valuable to him to have Donald Trump always take his calls, always do what he asks.

Speaker 3 You can already see that Donald Trump is adjusting what he says about electric cars because he knows in the back of his mind that he's going to see Elon this week.

Speaker 3 But of course, that doesn't stop on all the other fucking issues. On Monday, Trump leaned into his race science argument against immigration while talking to Hugh Hewitt.

Speaker 9 How about allowing people to come to an open border,

Speaker 9 13,000 of which were murderers? Now, a murderer, I believe this, it's in their genes. And we got a lot of bad genes in our country right now.

Speaker 1 Got the calipers. Yeah.
I mean.

Speaker 3 Look, I'll make my prediction again. We are, phrenology is going to make a comeback in Republican politics.
Calipers, sure, all of it.

Speaker 3 But, you know, Trump does know a thing or two about

Speaker 3 bad genes being in our country right now.

Speaker 3 Cuts a photo of Eric and Don.

Speaker 1 Boom.

Speaker 3 Got him. We got him.
We got him.

Speaker 1 I mean, it is crazy. It's like we have cycled all the way back to his first, like his announcement in 2015, because that first announcement was the, they're sent Mexican rapists, right?

Speaker 1 So it's like he's, it's not even playing the hits. It's like there's, he can only churn, like there's only cycle, like there's only the same 12 things over and over again forever.
And

Speaker 1 half the population finds that at least somewhat satisfying. And that's hard.

Speaker 3 I would say more that there's a base of the Republican Party that eats this up. And then there's probably a majority of the country that finds it disgusting.
And then there's this group of people,

Speaker 3 either they are so cynical about politics or so kind of apolitical that either this doesn't reach them or it all seems like noise. Or there are people that just don't care enough.
They just aren't.

Speaker 3 They don't care enough. And like our job in the next 30 days is to figure out how to make a lot of those people care in one way or another to stop this.
And that's been the job for the last decade.

Speaker 3 And we love what we do.

Speaker 1 So that's part of it.

Speaker 3 And finally, Todd Phillips,

Speaker 3 Philia Deux,

Speaker 3 flopped at the box office this weekend.

Speaker 1 Joker in that sentence.

Speaker 3 Oh, Joker, you know, the sequel.

Speaker 1 Fuck it.

Speaker 3 Earned a meager 40 million in its opening weekend. You know what they say? Joker wants, shame on me.
Joker wants, shame on me. Joker 2, Philia de.

Speaker 1 Got him.

Speaker 1 Fucking got him. I'm

Speaker 1 Phillips into the Joker.

Speaker 3 Yep. He's on his way.
I'm going to see the Joker sequel. Yeah.

Speaker 3 It was a movie. Andrew, you saw it.
I saw it.

Speaker 5 I didn't feel like, I genuinely, the reviews that I read before going in, like, made me expect truly the worst.

Speaker 5 I think it's biggest sin, honestly, is that A, it's very boring. That's what everyone says.

Speaker 1 It's boring.

Speaker 5 It's incredibly boring. That's too bad.
Also,

Speaker 1 he

Speaker 5 very quickly. He references a movie, The Bandwagon, often throughout the movie.

Speaker 5 You see a movie poster for it at the beginning, and then there is a scene where it is, it plays a very long portion of the movie or a big chunk of the movie that the Joker is watching in another scene.

Speaker 3 I love being in a movie theater watching a character watch a movie. Yes.

Speaker 5 So the bandwagon is in part about a man who is putting on a show a musical version of Faust, which does not go well. People leave opening night very depressed.
They're like, this is a musical.

Speaker 5 It's supposed to be bright, happy, sunshiny, blah, blah, blah, surreal, whatever.

Speaker 5 And he references this movie so many times and then you see the joker and you're like you clearly did not get the point of this movie that you keep referencing or maybe he did it sounds like this is a really not what people wanted from it and it's a boring musical that leaves people depressed well no but then at the end of the bandwagon the whole turn is fred astair and spoiler for the bandwagon yes spoiler for this movie that came out in 1953 um no fred astaire and his friends make him realize that he's gay sure

Speaker 5 uh that he needs to put on the bandwagon, which is like this bright, cheery thing. It becomes a hit, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 5 And it's just like, it was just interesting watching this thing and realize there was no

Speaker 5 joy, no surrealism. Not that all musicals have to be joyful.

Speaker 5 I mean, if you've seen Cabaret, for instance, it's not a bucket of laughs, but he just, he fundamentally doesn't understand musicals and didn't understand what he had to work with.

Speaker 5 There were some things in there that I actually kind of liked. They just didn't ever come together.

Speaker 3 Right, right. Yeah, it seems like a real miss.
That's also part of the plot of Merily Rowland is about somebody that sells out. It's funny because it's been remade so many times.

Speaker 3 Like originally it was about someone who sold out and made plays that were too commercial. And now it's then it became in this, but yeah.

Speaker 3 Well,

Speaker 3 Lady Gaga.

Speaker 1 Harlequin, the album I loved.

Speaker 1 That's insane.

Speaker 1 That's all the music that I love. That's the, well, okay, and that's fair.
But I was like, when she released it, I was like, oh, well, this movie is not, this is a bomb.

Speaker 1 It's going to be absolutely a bomb.

Speaker 5 I liked that album because it is very good, but I also knew that she could do it in her sleep. Like she rolled out, may have rolled out of bed and like every song, one take.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I mean, she's like, I'm already scatting. Just start recording it.

Speaker 5 There's no scatting on that album.

Speaker 1 Oh, well, then what's there for anybody then?

Speaker 3 Okay. Well,

Speaker 3 it's another great week of news here in America. Thanks, everybody, for listening.
We are recording this between two hurricanes.

Speaker 3 Just a reminder that this is. the most important climate change election in human history.
And

Speaker 3 if there are people in your life that don't see it that way, you should try to convince them and just sort of beg them that even if they're not totally sure to come along and help because we cannot survive having a climate denialist in the White House.

Speaker 3 I really genuinely believe like this is the one. And so

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Speaker 3 The only like actual meal-like food they sell on Spirit Air is like some kind of cup of noodle that they'll make for you, which I guess they just must use the hot water from the coffee and just pour it into a cup of noodle.

Speaker 1 Like it's your fly in your college dorm room.

Speaker 5 Well, you understand why I say I will not go further than Las Vegas.

Speaker 3 I still think everybody, like, I get why the, like, um, like, Steven and the video team that had to check a bunch of stuff, I think that is risky. But for like, like, Kennedy flew connecting.

Speaker 3 Yeah. And like, I don't know, like, I, having done it, I would have, I would do the Spirit Air again over connecting because I got to, I got to Pittsburgh.

Speaker 3 Uh, we went to a Pittsburgh classic tavern for pierogies,

Speaker 3 schnitzel,

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Speaker 1 I'd rather do that.

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