#645: Supa’ man

He has balls that

that he controls.

Yeah, here's my terrorist puppy.

puppy.

You don't like it?

Don't buy a ticket and go suck a dick.

So I guess you just gotta talk through your teeth there, right?

You just gotta go like this, and you

just talk like this.

Tell him, Steve, Dave.

Hello, and welcome to this week's edition of Tell him Steve Dave.

I'm here with,

well, kind of here with BQ.

Hello.

The summer traffic has kept him at bay, so he's zooming in.

Yeah, I got on the road and, yeah, it was like an hour and 20 minutes to get what normally takes me a half hour to do.

So it was like, eh, I'll zoom today.

Yeah.

I forget.

That's every weekend.

Yep.

That's every weekend around here.

In the summer, it's every weekend, yeah.

Because everybody's going to the Jersey Shore Shore for the weekend, and everybody's going back on Sunday.

It's just a nightmare.

Oh, actually, well, Walt is here, of course, too.

You were drinking.

I didn't want to interrupt you, Walt.

I thought you were going to do a ventriloquist actually, drinking water and still talk.

No, I tried to do that.

I tried to learn ventriloquism as a kid.

Didn't go well.

Did it go well?

No.

I have a hard time not moving my lips, which is probably the key factor in being a good ventriloquist.

It's the main requirement of a ventriloquist, I guess.

Yeah.

I always was impressed with guys who could throw their voice behind a couch or something.

Like if they were in the kitchen and they could throw their voice behind

the seemingly any other end of the room.

I've never seen it work.

I've only seen that work in movies.

In real life, I feel like anytime you're watching a ventriloquist or someone like that, you have to kind of be nice to them and pretend you don't see their fucking lips moving.

You know what I mean?

I don't think I've ever seen a ventriloquist that I was like, wow, that guy has nailed it.

You always see that.

Careful, Q.

The ventriloquist lobby is going to come after us if you go a little too hard on it.

I know there's a lot of listeners who are card-carrying members of the ventriloquist union.

I think it's a positive, bud.

I think, like, I just haven't seen the right ventriloquist yet.

I would be excited by that.

Who are the most famous ones?

You got

Tran McCarthy, of course.

Yeah.

Well, the most famous one's been dead for 100 years.

And now, can you hear me?

Because I sound so weird.

I can hear you.

Okay.

Let me hear you.

You sound normal to me.

Okay.

Yeah.

Well, who's the guy that's got all the puppets?

He's pretty popular.

Oh, the guy that

Jeff Dunham.

Jeff Dunham.

Yeah.

Sunday Jeff.

That's maybe his favorite celebrity.

Really?

Yeah.

Like, he has paid multiple, he's paid thousands to see him live in his life.

I get it.

I mean,

that guy's really funny.

The puppets are cool and shit like that.

I get it.

Yeah, that's one of the few people that he will pony up his hard-earned cash for.

Wow.

I'm looking at the list of famous ventriloquists.

It's

not a lot of names I recognize.

You got Sherry Lewis, of course.

And you got Wayland Flowers, Madam.

Beyond that?

Sherry, who?

Sherry Lewis.

She was with the sock puppet, right?

Lamb chop.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Lamb chop.

These are all ancient underground celebrities.

Yeah, like most of their pictures are in black and white.

And when I say underground, I mean literally six feet under.

I don't mean underground like they're,

you know, they're fringe

celebrities.

These are people that have not made an impact in decades.

I mean, Jeff Dunham is pretty popular, though.

He's kind of got the market to himself.

So I guess you're just going to talk through your teeth, right?

You just got to go like this, and you.

Yeah, just talk like this.

Tell him.

You can't say tell him, Steve, Dave, without touching your lips together.

Tell him, Steve.

Tell him, Steve, Derve.

Sounds exactly like me normally.

Tell him, Steve.

I'm also looking at the ages, like you say, Walt, of these people.

Not many of these ventriloquists have gotten started in the past, well, in this century, as a matter of fact.

You have Darcy Lynn.

She's an American ventriloquist and singer who has been credited with the revival of ventriloquism.

Whoa.

Born in Oklahoma, she developed an interest in singing from a young age, but was held back by her shyness before audiences.

But now you got Darcy Lynn, who's only, what, 21?

21-year-old ventriloquist?

Ventriloquism prodigy, they're calling her.

Whoa, her, hey.

Well, you know what?

I'm happy to be wrong.

I can't wait to check out her work.

What's

do you think in 2025 there's just too many things vying, too many talents out there

that overshadow

being able to close your lips and talk?

Kinda.

Yeah, but I don't think it's a problem that just ventriloquism is ventriloquism is facing.

I think every

corner of entertainment, good and bad, is facing that.

Everything's so shattered and segmented, you know what I'm saying?

That I think everywhere is pretty much fighting for relevancy at this point.

Yeah.

I still think sports, though,

they don't suffer the way that, you know, the way the ventriloquism market has dried up.

I don't think they're.

feeling the pinch.

I see some of these contracts that athletes get and the poor ventriloquist can't even buy a fucking butter sandwich.

Yeah, that is a good point.

You are right about that.

But all that means is, and maybe this young lady that Brian is talking about is the person, is like anything could be made cool and successful.

Like, maybe they just need someone to rise, you know, and show the world just how great modern cutting-edge ventriloquism could be.

Is there

any hope for that?

No.

Is it realistic?

And also, a key factor, too, is you have to be able to do it well and also have good material, too.

So it's not just like you can rely on your skills with your mouth.

You have to be able then to write witty things that your puppet can say.

And comedy is tough in this day and age.

So you got to be real careful what your puppet says.

You can't fall back on, well, I didn't say it.

He did.

The puppets said it.

Yeah.

Those days are gone.

Yeah.

The puppet said it.

Yeah.

But that's what I'm saying.

So you're kind of proving what I'm saying and that like it takes way more talent to be a ventriloquist than I think people realize.

And if you get someone who masters all of those at once

and has a modern sensibility, I bet you there's a, I bet you that person's selling out Madison Square Garden.

Well, yeah, that person's a superstar.

Yeah, I believe so.

We're just waiting on the next one.

We're just waiting for him to come.

Much like Jesus.

Jesus, the next great ventriloquist.

But like what I'm saying is like the fact that we've dismissed it means that there's someone out there with vision that we can't see who will lift it up.

And that's when we'll get surprised.

That's when we'll get fucking slobbernachered by ventriloquism.

When the art form is redefined in a new way.

In a way that,

you know, ever since...

Hidden camera got reinvented and reinvigorated, you know,

you need that.

You need someone to come in and change the format and make it something new.

Some pluck a young upstart.

Well, like this.

The young upcoming ventrolicas, the kids who will grow up and get into ventrolicism will just be like, wait a second, I don't have to learn anything.

I can just program it into AI and it'll look like my puppet talks.

Yeah, fuck that.

I'm not going to put all these hours into trying to keep my memory.

10,000 hours.

I'll just use AI.

Grok, make my puppet talk

and just film yourself.

No, I always thought that Jeff Dunham was just the Ahmed, the terrorist guy.

He has a whole array of puppets.

He's more than just

a incredibly offensive puppet.

He's got a whole litany of puppet

characters that he trots out.

Yeah, I'm assuming he retired Ahmed sometime ago.

I don't think he did.

No, Jeff told me he still brings him out.

The crowd goes fucking crazy.

You know, the Union Jack, not the Union Jack, what's the flag, the Southern flag?

Oh, the

rebels.

state, sorry, the whole crowd starts breaking out their flags, and we have an Ahmed who takes the stage.

Well, that's the magic of Jeff Dunham.

If you don't have a boss,

if you don't need advertisers, if you're selling directly to an audience, you don't have to give the fuck about what anybody says.

Yeah, here's my terrorist puppy.

You don't like it?

Don't buy a ticket and go suck a dick.

Like, that's the magic of being an independent.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I I still think that he may run into some trouble with theaters if he starts telling everybody to suck his dick.

I don't think so, man.

I think Jeff Dunham is as free as Joe Rogan.

They can say and do whatever the fuck they want.

And anything you have to say that you don't like about it, go suck a dick.

Now, that doesn't mean that I, you know, I don't listen.

I've never heard an episode of Joe Rogan, but like he is the freest man in America.

So Jeff Dunham probably has that freedom through the magic of ventriloquism.

Yeah.

Okay.

All right.

You sold you.

I mean, you did a complete fucking 360 on this.

You know that, right?

I sure did.

He's got Indy Cred because he has no bosses.

I don't know.

That goes far with me.

Indy Cred.

He's like the Kevin Smith of ventriloquism.

You understand what I'm saying?

I do.

Now that you put it in those terms, absolutely.

You put it in terms I can understand.

What did we do this week?

Well, we went to Tim's Wake.

Very.

Well, me and Walt did.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I was flying in Monday.

I was going to land at the airport, go straight to the wake, and I sat on the tarmac for two hours, and then they canceled my flight.

So I didn't get home till Tuesday.

So I did miss it.

I purposely didn't ask you guys during the week how it was because, one, of course, I know, but I figured we'd catch up on the

show.

Like, how was it, was the outpouring there for Tim?

Did Tim get

the love that

we know he deserves?

That and more, I thought.

It was very well attended.

Great.

It was nice, nice, I guess, you know, as far as services go.

I mean, we didn't stay for the actual religious service, but, you know, there were a lot of people hanging around.

And

a lot of you could tell Tim, you could tell, like, who are Tim's friends from his rock days.

Oh, yeah, and that, yeah, like everybody's like old rockers with tattoos and stuff, and

it's cool, 80s haircuts, that kind of thing.

Yeah,

what's an 80s haircut?

Uh, there was one lady there where, like, she looked like she was from like maybe one of the go-go's or something.

It was like very spiky up top and then spiky on the sides.

There was one lady that had a haircut like that, and uh, a lot of like long hair, too,

I would say.

Yeah.

But this dude was beloved.

There's no doubt about it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I was really, really depressed to miss it, man.

I wanted to be there.

But I'm glad to hear that, dude.

I was thinking about him a lot over the weekend, man.

It's still kind of rattling around up there a lot, you know?

A little bit, yeah.

Tessie Town came out, though, in force.

I mean, everybody was there.

Oh, yeah, everybody was there.

Everybody was there.

Tom, Chuck, Victor, Alex, Giddam, Sunday.

Frank Five drove down.

Brian Nichelle.

LaDondo was there.

Don Doch came.

Yeah, so there were.

I mean, I hope I'm not missing anybody.

Rup.

Rubb.

Alex was there.

He's in Alex.

Yeah, I just don't want to miss anybody.

I know that.

I was there.

Yeah, I know.

If I did, it's because I'm

Jimmy the hair guy.

Oh, my God.

Michelle.

Michelle.

The one guy.

The one guy who would be fucking crestfallen.

You know, Jimmy Throw.

Before him.

Jimmy Throw.

He threw himself on the coffin.

How'd Jimmy do?

He did fine.

Yeah, he did all right.

He was a little upset, but yeah, I think he pulled through.

And it's weird, too.

Like I was telling Walt, like I know I've known Tim a long time,

and mostly

Our experiences, you know, talking to each other is like about Tom Steve Dave shit or music or whatever when when they sit dropped by Jack's.

But I had no idea

how integrated into the rock community he was.

Like, there were like on Facebook, there were like online magazines writing about him, you know, like

rock and roll legend,

they were calling him a founding member of Monster Magnet.

Like, he really got some accolades.

Oh, good man.

Yeah, it was nice to see.

I'm just watching Giddam try to silently eat a pop-tart,

He eats his grief.

Yeah.

Wow, yeah.

I want to see.

If you see the article, send them to me, man.

I'd love to read more about them.

Yeah, we'll do.

There was.

You've ever seen

a montage of photos on a big screen

in the room?

Like, you ever see that where like

at a

viewing like that where like different photos will just fade in and out onto the screen.

Yeah.

I don't know where they got it, but there was a photo of me and Tim in our KISS regalia.

Yeah, I saw that.

And I had to think 99% of that room is just like, what the fuck is that?

Just because there's a green screen behind them, too, so it looks weird to picture them.

Yeah, we looked so alien.

Like,

we didn't look like ourselves because the masks really do

an amazing job of making us look like different people.

It just was,

it just blew blew my mind.

And I don't even know where they got that photo from.

Yeah, they had quite a few podcast photos.

Yeah, they did.

But I had to think: like, when that photo is up there, like, the people have to be like, what was he up to?

Is eyes wide shut?

What the fuck is going on?

Tim was kinky, man.

Oh, man.

Yeah.

But then,

and I guess, like, it was, it was, I don't know, it made me think, too, like, like,

my time to go.

I like the presentation of just like a box.

Like, you didn't have to look at him and be like, oh, poor Tim.

Yeah.

You know, like, he,

they created him and put a nice little box out.

Exactly.

That's, that's the way to go.

I agree.

It's weird.

It's always been weird looking at those bodies, isn't it?

You're just like, what's going on here?

Well, Walt had a good point, too.

We were talking while we were there about the chit-chat.

Like, it's non-stop people just joking around, talking shit.

Like, it's a weird custom to get together, I guess, and not be mournful.

But, like, I guess if that's all you had the entire time,

could you even get through it?

Yeah.

What?

Not joking and busting balls?

Like,

who the fuck wants to go to a wake like that?

You know?

Yeah.

No, I meant more so.

It's just,

I know why human beings do it.

You know, it's it's a a mechanism to cope.

But the inane chit chat about shit that, like,

is so insignificant for the reason that you're there, just like, it's just weird.

It's like, boy, is this heat ever going to break?

Who cares?

Who the fuck cares if it if it's hot for the next hundred days or not?

It's just it's weird.

But I know why people are doing it, but it is a very

strange

custom that human beings have

put together about, you know, having a large group of people come together for an hour

at a building

to shake the hands

and say something to the grieving family.

It's just a

very

strange tradition or ritual.

As there's a line at the door to go around a giant circle to tell his

wife

how sorry they are for like a second.

And

some people she knows, some people she doesn't know.

Sounds like it could be a lot for the widow, for sure.

She seemed like she was handling it well, though.

Yeah.

You know, as far as I could see.

Yeah, you got to put a you got four hours of

glad handing.

Then you can break break down later on your own time.

Yeah.

Most funerals I've been at have been

kind of fun once you get past that first part where you go in and you kneel at the thing, you say your prayer, and then you go in the back of the room and you just start fucking joking around.

You know what I mean?

Like,

I don't know.

And we've always said, like, from early on, Brian, like, at your funeral, you want your friends fucking ripping on you.

You know what I mean?

Like,

it just wouldn't feel right if, like, it wasn't present at the funeral.

Like, you wouldn't want it this way, yeah, if it was all serious and shit.

Yeah, but how, how,

reality, though, how far would you really want it to go, though?

Well, I mean, like, let's say I'm in a coffin, don't draw a dick on my face or anything, you know, just for myself, just for like my family's sake.

But

just saying, don't do that, do not do that.

Okay, I'm saying I'd hate that.

But if it's not permanent ink, though, and it just wipes off like dry erase ink?

Dry erase ink?

Yeah, and it can wipe it off real fast.

I wouldn't be mad.

I think it would be funny.

Yeah.

I don't think so.

What if I slipped

like a Playgirl magazine

in your coffin?

It was his favorite issue.

I don't know what to tell you.

He demanded it for the afterlife.

That's the sort of shit we're talking about, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I just think, yeah, I I wouldn't want it to be a completely morose affair.

You know, I just would want people to have kind of a good time.

Yeah, I agree.

As much of a good time as you can have.

Well, it also depends on how you died.

Like, if you died today, it would be like really fucking crazy.

But if you went at 92, like, you know what I mean?

It's a little, it's a little bit like, holy shit, none of us thought he'd get that far.

Yeah.

You busting out the playgirl issue.

Like, finally.

Oh man, did you see Superman Walt?

I did.

What did you think?

Oh, nobody asked me.

Did you go?

I saw it on purpose

because I wanted to be able to speak with you guys about it.

Usually, I just sit here and listen.

I should not assume.

I'm not doing it for Fantastic Four, though.

I saw that trailer.

Actually, everything I see about the Fantastic Four gives me hope.

Really?

Yeah,

I'm like, wow, this is, it looks intense.

It looks dire.

And that's what I need after Superman.

What did you think?

I'm curious, because you're of the three of us, obviously you dwarf

Brian's love for Superman.

I think you dwarf my love for Superman.

I, too, I love the character, but.

Only one of us in the room has a tattoo of the S of the shield.

So

I would love to know your thoughts on Superman.

I like to talk about it.

Should we say super spoilers for people who.

I guess.

Come on.

Brian went to see it.

We should talk about it.

If a motherfucker went to see a movie.

Yeah, I went out of my way.

He made the effort to go see a movie.

I'm sorry, listeners.

If you haven't seen it yet, we're going to do some super spoilers.

I saw it.

Yeah, there's no way we cannot talk about it.

And what did you go see the movie for, then?

You liked it.

Yeah.

I liked it.

Yeah, I did like it.

I liked it quite a bit.

I had some quibbles with it.

You know, the whole world turning on him and then coming right back over one news story was a little bit like, I don't know if I would have committed to this all the way, but I thought he was a great Superman.

I really liked him.

I thought the cast across the board was great.

Guy Gardner, I loved.

I loved the take on Guy Gardner.

They nailed Mr.

Terrific.

I thought,

I like the robots.

I mean it really I really just liked the whole fucking movie.

Like I really got into it.

You seem like I see the look on your face.

You look like you didn't dig it.

Okay, well I'll tell you the things I liked.

I think the guy who played Superman was able to

do something the previous Superman wasn't able to do, which was make him

likable.

I don't know if the other guy, Henry Cavill,

He was a little bit too intense and too somber.

He was almost like a grim Superman.

You know, he barely smiled, it felt like in any of the movies.

This Superman was

friendly, likable, and

more human, would you say, than like sure, than the previous Superman.

So I thought he did a great job.

I thought

the story was a mess.

There were a lot of subplots going on.

Oh, my.

I felt like we, and I get it.

I know what he was going for, but it really felt like this was part 12

of a 12-part series, and we missed the first 11 episodes.

Oh, really?

I felt like I went with my daughter,

so

she doesn't have the luxury, the privilege.

That her father has to have all this knowledge about all these characters.

So she's like, what's Mr.

Terrific's powers?

I'm like, Uh,

he has balls that

he controls,

and what is he, a hacker?

I was like, Yeah,

I didn't know what the, I mean, he had powers and shit, but I don't really know what his powers were.

I, I, I'm, I'm kind of aware of him from the JSA, but I was like, they did a really piss-poor job, I thought, of giving us

what Mr.

Terrific was about.

I thought Hawk Girl was

it looked like a CW costume.

Guy Garner.

Hawk Girl was one of the things that I was like, I might have cut her out of the movie.

They didn't give her anything to do.

I was like,

it's not.

She was one of the quibbles that I have.

I'm like, they didn't really give her anything to do.

And that one scene where she's screaming didn't do it for me.

No, that scream would have been cut for me.

That was so cringey, that scream.

But go to Guy Garner.

You didn't like Guy Garner?

Yeah, he was fine.

What was what the hair was the hair?

It's always been that hair band haircut.

Like a mall haircut from the Stooges.

He's always had it from the late 60s, early 70s, his first appearance in the

future.

But the whole pocket universe

with a ferryman, an alien ferryman,

kind of like...

You're in hell, but you're not in hell.

I thought maybe it was a boom tube at first for Apocalypse, but it wasn't.

That's what I thought.

It was a boom tube at first, right?

That prison, just this like

Connect for prison

in limbo just looks so

uninspired to me.

Like it's just like rooms with

that you could see

I don't know like at least empty rooms with people in them like almost like a curio cabinet of people.

It was so silly and stupid, I thought.

And like the even the

crimes are like, well, you were a shitty girlfriend.

Which I can get it.

Like, it was a vindictive jerk off Lex Luther, but the dog was awesome.

The Superman robots enjoyed very much.

I know it's 2025 and girls got to fucking

get their fucking seat at the table, but

Lois Lane flying on a fucking spaceship reminded me of 1980s Flash Gordon vibes.

I was wondering that myself.

I was like, how did she suddenly become like the same thing with the last alien?

They kind of explained it.

They kind of, he was like, the ship is sentient.

Or what?

He not sentient, but like.

He says it's intuitive.

Intuitive, yeah.

So

that was the fix that you could do it.

Now she could fly a spaceship badly in it.

Yeah, that didn't bother me at all.

It's so corny, though.

It's just like her

getting people together on top of the daily planet, and

she's got to drive it because

she's a fucking girl.

She's Lois Lane.

I mean,

if anybody could do it,

I think it's Lois Lane.

Perry, the fucking guy who ran a fucking newspaper in a world where, like, you know, that nobody needs newspapers.

And like, he fucking put all that years.

He can't be the guy who drives the last fucking, he can't, like, make the last escape from the daily planet before it gets destroyed.

It's got to go to his fucking ace reporter.

That never occurred to me.

I would have liked to have seen more of Perry.

I like that guy.

He's a good actor.

Yeah, he was great.

That look he gave.

He was on the wire.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, he was really

when he figured out that Lois and Superman were banging, that was pretty fucking funny.

When he gives him that look, he's like,

what's that?

I thought she did a good job as Lois Lane.

I just feel like I agree with you.

I think the casting was good.

I just feel the story was a bit too

just convoluted, and

it just didn't click for me.

It just didn't click for me.

I saw it with

people who, a couple of people who had no concept of Superman, like total newbies, and they followed it.

I mean, I didn't get that.

Yeah, my daughter liked it.

She actually, she was surprised when I said,

How'd you like it?

I said, I didn't like it.

She's like, what?

Because I liked it.

I was like, oh, okay.

Yeah.

I mean, it's like

just because I didn't like it doesn't mean anything.

I mean,

I have

a vision of Superman in my head, and some things they hit and some things they missed.

But I don't think what did they hit?

Give me a positive.

Oh, I thought crypto was awesome.

I thought the

finally introducing that lore into the movies was an absolute home run.

I'm surprised it took this long to do it because it's so endearing.

It's so

fun.

I thought,

I thought, Lex,

I don't know.

I don't know if I was that

buying his motivations.

I know people have been raving about, you know, finally, we've got a great Lex, but

I don't know.

It was okay.

I didn't hate it.

I didn't hate it.

I just was like, kind of

like, wow, I was stunned actually at times.

I was like, wow, I just didn't think they were going this way.

I never once knew where it was going going because I was like,

it felt at least that much.

It wasn't cookie-cutter because there was shit in there.

I was like, wow, I'm surprised I'm doing this.

But again, I guess that's good in a way, too, though.

The one thing with Lex that I liked Lex.

I thought he was great.

I maybe wouldn't have made him cry at the end, but I get it.

But there was one line when Supergirl came in, and we're getting into spoilers for sure, but like when Superman goes, she goes to other planets to get drunk on their red sun.

Yes.

So she could get drunk.

In my head, I was just like, well,

the second he said that line, I'm like, what?

So they know, well, they obviously know aliens exist because they know Superman's an alien.

So now they're saying that they know that that's widespread, so much so that she could pop over to a planet just to get drunk.

And that made me be like, well, then why is Lex so focused on Superman?

Wouldn't he be like,

there's a universe of aliens out there?

You know what I mean?

Like, it just felt like yeah well also yeah like why has he got a man on just for lex when hawk girl mr terrific and

guy gardner are also over there flaunting their powers and and making every human being look like human i guess i guess because they're human so superman just didn't reveal he was an alien it would just be like i got my powers from bitten by a radioactive yeah buff maybe

and lex would be like well he's still human and he wouldn't he wouldn't have had this angry well what about hawk girl she's an alien i guess she didn't reveal it to anybody yet they didn't really go into Thangar and stuff like that in the movie.

Like, they didn't even mention it, right?

Right.

What did you think, Bri?

Oh, Thangar?

No, no, the whole movie and itself.

I felt the same way you did, which was like it was messy.

It was a lot of different stuff going on at the same time.

I also agree with QAn as much as

I thought that the turning on Superman was a little bit too quick, and then the

pulling them back to their bosom.

Yeah.

It was a little fast.

I thought the war thing at the end was

just.

Well, they're starting to get into lessons.

Yeah, but the war thing felt like it was just so

unrealistic in the terms of like how wars are fought, in terms of where there's like a mass group of people and they bring their kids with them to the front line.

I noticed that.

Some are holding kids with them in their arms.

Let's stop these tanks.

Let's bring Junior and all the infants, too.

Yeah, I got a club and my kid.

Well, they thought Superman was going to show up.

That's true.

Okay, yeah.

I still think it's negligent on the parents, though, to rely on Superman showing up just in time.

So, because that's kind of bad parenting to

that Soups is going to show up to save the day, but

I.

You guys,

you didn't love when, like, I liked the reveal that Lex was like, no, no, I didn't, I didn't start a war to became a king.

Like, I started all that just to fucking get you to come at me.

Like, I thought that was like a good Lex Luthor beat where he's thinking, like, five steps ahead, um, starting wars just to get Superman involved in his mechanisms.

I don't know.

I thought that was pretty cool.

Yeah, I mean,

as long as he can sick his clone of Superman on him, I think he'll engage Superman regardless without doing all that war stuff too.

As long as he sends out somebody with the powers of that clone to start destroying Metropolis, yeah, Superman's going to show up.

So it's kind of,

again, it's kind of clunky, the whole Middle East

inclusion that

of,

you know, that whole subplot of like, well, I'm going to get to own a piece of the Middle East, Luther was like.

Yeah, but it was all bullshit.

It was all bullshit just to get Superman to

interfere in international affairs.

Oh, he was trying to force Superman to make a move that the world would frown upon.

That's what he said.

He said that specifically.

He's like, I started the war.

He goes, you think I started the war to fucking blah, blah, blah.

He goes, no, I started it just to have you get involved.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

I might have missed that.

Yeah, I thought that was cool.

It is, it is, I did think when he had a Superman clone, I'm like, well, if you have a Superman clone that looks just like Superman,

you can have him go out and do bad shit and nobody will fucking think that it's a clone.

Yeah.

I tell you,

if I an hour and a half in, I was like, I wish this dog was in the whole movie the whole time and maybe the rest of the cast.

I would just watch the crypto movie.

I would just watch the crypto movie.

I don't need anybody and all this other nonsense that's going on.

Oh, wow.

Yeah, I liked him.

I thought he was good.

I just had fun watching it.

Like, I was into it.

I was like just getting excited.

I did say afterwards, I was like, I want to see it one more time to lock in because when your head starts going to like, oh, if he's got a clone, why is he doing this

like i want to see it again with those in it right but i had a blast i just had there was no part in it that i was like not happy to be in that theater watching the movie yeah the whole it feels at times like the story is a blur as and the visuals are a blur like a bright blur like there's just this weird

brightness about it that it doesn't have that classic kind of

cinema look.

I don't know why.

It's like a video game almost more.

I can't describe it, but it didn't.

Or a comic book.

It feels more like a

modern,

what's it called?

When you put something over an image, it's a...

A filter?

Yes.

Like this kind of modern filter.

that where it doesn't look like movies of the past anymore.

It's hard for me to describe.

I'm not putting it properly into words, though, but it's just a brightness about it that

is.

I wonder if it's even done on purpose with some sort of like

some sort of feedback from

like computer watching and like in things of monitoring computer screens and stuff.

Yeah, I would assume that's a choice, man.

I don't think anything you saw on screen was by accident.

He's probably trying to counter how dark Man of Steel was and trying to make it look poppy and like a like a comic a little bit more like a comic book.

I do agree with you, though, that I think that

you needed a direct 180 from the previous Superman movies, which were kind of somber

and too realistic, maybe.

So I agree.

I would have agreed

with that direction, you know, if I heard if I was him, too, of going in a different direction than the previous Superman movies.

Metamorpho?

You didn't like Metamorpho?

I thought he looked awesome.

I think his powers are cool.

I think it's, again, I think you're just...

And I get it because I don't want to watch a movie where we're going to get the origins of Mr.

Terrific, Metamorpho, Hawk Girl, Guy Gardner.

That just weighs the movies down as they have in the past when you introduce a whole bunch of characters.

But I wonder if the audience is like,

who is this guy?

Where'd he come from?

And

where was he?

And how did he become Lex Luther's prisoner?

And

who's that girl?

He has a baby?

And it's just, you know, it's just...

None of that threw me at all.

We have the advantage of knowing who Rex is.

We have the advantage of knowing his, all that stuff.

we can't unknow it, so as we go into it with with

with a leg up on people, I think, too.

Yeah, like I didn't know any of that, right?

Morpho stuff here.

I didn't know any of it.

Poor Brian Johnson, I know, like lost wandering around in a movie theater, not knowing what the fuck's going on.

Asking random people, do you know what's going on?

The information provided was like

I thought the information provided was like, look, this guy, Lex is like, this guy could change his chemical composition.

I've turned him into kryptonite.

He's the guy's like, I got a kid over there, which is why I'm doing this.

I mean, all that information was in there.

I don't know that

maybe it's just a bad

period right now where I'm like, I wasn't going to like anything right now.

No, I mean, I wouldn't make excuses for you not loving it.

Like, you know what I mean?

Like, you just didn't dig it

as much.

I might have dug it if I'd saw it at a different point, though.

But yeah,

I just saw it kind of like, you know,

again, it looks fine, but it's

to me, the story was a little bit

too much going on for, you know,

and

again, I just feel like if I'd just seen the dog for an hour and a half, I would have been fine.

The dog, that was my favorite line in the movie, but it was about the dog when Lois is like,

you're going to turn yourself in for a dog?

And he's like, yeah, not not even a very good dog, but he's alone and he's scared.

I was like, that's fucking Superman.

You know what I mean?

Like, that's fucking Superman right there.

That's a great moment.

I agree with you.

The whole movie was about crypto.

What did you think about the take on the parents?

Because I loved it.

I loved that they were that fucking slow to

crypton parents.

Human parents.

Martha and Hugh.

I'll let Brian go.

I mean, I thought they were okay.

They were a couple old people.

They're actually much older than I thought they were going to be.

They didn't really do much differently than

you didn't.

Like, they kind of were right out of the comic book mold of his Kansas parents, right?

Yeah, I thought that the leaning all the way into that Kansas accent was pretty fucking crazy.

I love that.

Like, how they spoke so slow.

And so, yeah, all right.

And I like that they lived.

It really was big.

They went big with that.

Yeah, I like that they lived in a ranch house,

not like a big old fucking farmhouse.

I was like, holy shit, Suitman grew up in a little small house with a wood paneling bedroom.

I was like, that's kind of cool.

You know what I mean?

I liked all that take on it.

I do think it was a stroke of genius, though, to have the motivation of his Kryptonian parents to be that he would be a conqueror and to put his seed into every

every woman that he could find.

I thought that was so sinister, so dark, and a really clever

twist on the mythos of Jorrell.

And

what's his, what's his mom's name?

Laurel.

Laurel, yeah.

I thought that was a nice, that was a great

twist of the,

I'll put it on it, a twist on it to make it

put everything on its on its head, basically from what

we've seen in the comics and what we've seen in previous movies.

I thought that was well done and very

dark.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I liked it, though.

Yeah.

I liked it.

I liked it.

I mean, I've seen that in the comic book.

That's happened once or twice in like Else Worlds and stuff.

I did like it.

I was like, oh, that's cool.

They make Jarrell a fucking son of a bitch.

Now,

would you, let's say you were the benefit of

being saved by Superman, maybe even not directly, maybe indirectly by, you know, there was a, and something was happening and Superman showed up and saved your city.

Would that tape be enough for you to be like, I'm fucking throwing tomato cans, tomato soup cans at Superman when he walks by?

I'm so mad at him now because of that video.

No,

no.

No, that was the stuff I had the big problem.

Because one, it was also like basically the plot of Man of Steel, too.

Like they turned against him.

Lex Luther blew up the fucking Capitol building.

They blamed Superman.

You know what I mean?

Like it was kind of like...

And I, you know, that was the part of the movie that I was like, I, I was like, nah, I don't really need to see the world turning on him.

But I didn't hate it, you know?

No.

And I thought it was a little quick.

So

is this the best Superman movie that's ever been made?

Or is there still

78?

And I think it's still

Superman 2.

It's still Donner, which is shocking, right?

In a world where you can do anything.

And these guys are struggling.

The OGs

that...

like Donner were struggling to make

you feel like, well, you'll believe a man could fly, but you're like, not really.

He still doesn't look like he's flying, but the shit's so good, I don't care.

Yeah.

Okay, yeah.

Okay, Rich.

Yeah,

he looks like he's flying.

Okay.

And let's not forget that, you know, Superman, as much as we all love that movie, like, has that weird Lois Lane poem in the middle of it.

That if they dropped that into this movie, you'd be like, what the fuck?

What is this?

But it is a testament then to those cats.

They were were basically making movies with fucking sticks and stones compared to what they're making movies with now.

And it still holds up as

the best version of Superman we've ever seen.

Yeah, those guys, those cats, you know, can sit back and fucking smoke a victory fucking cigar again.

Yeah.

Because in 2025, they tried it again, and it's still not.

better than that one.

That's fucking amazing when you think about it, because with all the technology you have now, with all the things you can do.

The number of years you had to come up with a story

script.

It's still fucked up that

that's still the case.

I liked on this new one.

It was very brief, but when there, I think it was Lex talking about

infiltrating or flooding the internet with comments or something that had all the monkeys screaming, like the social media nod that they did.

That was that made me laugh.

That made me laugh too.

Then I went home and I was like, I told Mary Beth, I was like, this is the same guy who did Guardians of the Galaxy.

We should watch that.

Because I remembered liking it.

I went back and watched it.

I'm like, I don't know who any of these people are.

I don't know what's going on.

But you saw it already?

I had seen it.

I saw it in theaters.

I saw it in theaters and I was like, what the fuck is going on in this movie?

I don't know any of these characters.

I don't know what's going on.

Yeah, but if you know what I mean.

I'm singing it to Mary Beth.

I'm like, it's a great movie because I remembered liking it.

But maybe it was the third one I liked or something.

Or the second one?

Yeah.

That's funny.

I love those movies.

Do you think there's maybe a case that

maybe Lex Luther just isn't the proper villain for a Superman movie?

Do you think maybe there's the case to be made that it just doesn't work?

It's just, okay,

we have to swallow that he can do anything and he has all these these abilities.

It's just too much to think that

some

smart dude

is a worthy enough adversary for us to sit down for two hours and watch a movie.

I don't agree with that.

I think, one, I like this take on Lex, but maybe you would like a little bit more of like the mad scientist Lex, where he's like coming up with stuff to defeat him in his workshop or something like that, like that pudgy bald one that was running around.

Do you remember remember that?

Maybe that's the Lex you need on film.

Yeah.

I don't know.

Maybe we just need to

see a movie that Lex isn't the

guy that's Superman's taking down.

It just feels like it's

it's it's hard to

make him a worthy adversary.

in a world where this guy can do anything, you know?

Well, it's funny because because, like, he's only an adverse.

The thing about Lex, right, is, like, the only way because, right, Superman could burn him up in a second, right?

Like, there's no, if Superman wants Lex dead, Lex is dead.

Which means that Lex is relying on Superman to be a good enough person not to kill him while he's doing all this shit, which to me is like even makes Lex more of a fucking dickhead because he's like, no, I know he's a good person.

I know he's a good alien, but I don't like that he fucking hovers 10 feet above me and I'm going to fucking get him.

I don't know.

I like that.

I kind of like.

What did you think of the engineer?

The engineer, I would say, good start.

It didn't feel like the engineer from the comic.

The effects look cool.

I don't know why he made her a bad guy.

But I liked the character in the comics, and she looked a little bit matched.

Just didn't feel like the engineer from the authority.

No.

A little bit for me.

But I liked Robin.

I thought she did a good job.

She was a girl.

Remember the bad girl?

Her hands can turn to saw blades and shit.

Yeah.

But I liked it.

I liked her.

I thought she did a good job.

She did dare.

You'll see an authority movie at some point then?

Oh, I hope so.

That would be awesome.

Yeah.

And what about a Supergirl movie?

Oh, I can't wait.

Look, man, this is like, I love that little fucking take with her that they did in it.

And like, people I know who liked the movie are like, I didn't like the Supergirl bit.

And I'm like, I fucking, I'm like a drunk.

Fucking hot supergirl coming through the door dressed in the skirt, like playing with a dog.

I'm like, what the fuck don't you like about that?

Like, I don't get it.

The one thing that I will say for me, it was the exit with, like, bitch.

It's just too commonplace.

Yeah, that was.

I could see people not liking that.

But she was drunk.

That's true.

Why didn't he call her back, though?

All right.

Just smiling.

Who's going to hurt Supergirl?

No, no, no.

Why didn't he call her back?

Why didn't Superman call upon her?

It's like, shit's going down.

It's getting bad.

I need some help.

I guess because she was hammered on another planet somewhere.

Maybe didn't know where she was.

Is that a character thing through the comics with her that she's a drunk?

No, no, no.

She's like the girl next door sometimes.

I don't know what the Peter David.

Well, the Tom King run that they're making the movie based on is like she's a little bit more worldly and stuff like that.

So I think he's going off that.

Did you catch or did you think that was Mixelplick's cameo?

Did you catch that little thing?

I did.

Whoa, where?

So when Lois and Superman are sitting by that window having that conversation and they're fighting, the Justice gang is fighting.

Oh, they look like an amoeba.

Yeah.

He goes, Lois is like, do they need you out there?

And he's like, nah, it's just an imp from the fifth dimension.

They got this.

And I was like, oh, I was like, that's fucking Mixoplex.

Cool.

They got him in the movie.

I couldn't, you know what?

It was hard for me to hear the word imp.

You know, I kind of missed that, that he said imp, but I thought it looked like a big amoeba.

Yeah, no, he said imp from the fifth dimension, which I was like, oh,

definitely, yeah, you're, yeah, it's definitely a mix-o-plick.

It's either him or Batmite, and Batmite doesn't make sense, you know.

So, yeah, I was like that he got that, and even though it wasn't like a little old midget in a fucking bowler cap or whatever the hell they're going to do.

Do you want to see

the Matt Reeves

Batman come into this universe?

And or would you prefer that they stay away and don't mix a Batman with Superman going forward?

Just keep them separate?

Or would you like to see them?

I like Robert Patterson as Batman.

Who did I say?

Matt Reeves?

Why did I say Matt Reeves?

No, he directed it.

Oh.

Didn't he direct it?

Yeah.

Okay.

I liked him as Batman.

I thought he was, you know, he looks the part.

He looks great.

You know, I didn't love The Batman like everybody else did.

Yeah, it's weird because I liked The Batman, too.

I enjoyed that one.

Yeah.

I re-watched it after we talked about it, and I liked it more, certainly after I watched the penguin and then went back and watched the movie.

But my initial reaction to Batman is, I think, kind of stands for the most part.

So, you would want to see Batman come into Superman's world or keep him?

No, I think he could pull it off.

I think if they were going to do that, I wouldn't be like, oh, they're going to fucking ruin it because I'm assuming that it would adapt to Superman's style a little bit more than the other direction.

You know, but aren't they doing like a Batman and Robin movie?

So I don't even know if Robin would fit in

in that world anyway.

I think you do kind of need like a Batman that matches this version of Superman a little bit more, especially if he's going to have a Robin.

Ooh, that's going to be a that's going to be a much different Batman than we've seen in quite some time then.

If we're going to match this world and this kind of mentality and

light

heartedness of

the Superman movie, yeah, that's going to be something we that moviegoers have not seen in quite some time.

A Batman that's going to fit into this world.

Yeah, I'd be excited to see that, though.

I'd love to see it.

Anyway, so it's fine.

Why not?

We've seen the fucking bleak, somber, grim Batman now for seemingly decades.

Let's see the other side of the fucking pillow.

Yeah, I'm pretty excited by it, man.

Yeah,

I don't know.

I liked it.

Most people I know like it.

But, Brian, what's your ultimate takeaway at the end?

Like, what would you grade it?

I mean, I walked away being like, who's all right?

Like, probably

for story, I would have to give it a C because it was difficult to follow.

There was so much going on.

Visuals, I'd give it an A.

It looked pretty amazing.

My walkaway with it was like, I'll probably never watch that again.

Yeah.

Well, overall, what was it?

A C?

No, I would say probably a B.

B?

Wow, that's, that's,

that's pretty good.

That's pretty good.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I, I, I like that.

I can see why people would like it.

I can see why people would dig it.

But again, like, like, you guys have that advantage of going in, you're like, I know who every single one of these motherfuckers is.

Whereas like somebody like me or Mary Beth or whatever, like, you know, you go in there and you're like, okay.

Like, that's That's why sometimes the little bit of backstory is good.

You know, or like, I know that you can't do an origin story for every movie, but it is good if they just give you a little bit.

Because, like, you say, like, Mr.

Terrific, I'm like, I don't know what his deal is.

I thought they nailed Terrific.

I loved it.

The costume looked fucking amazing.

Like, he looked like on the sleeve.

Yeah, he looked really good.

His performance was good.

I got what he was going for.

I guess, yeah, I guess if you're saying, like,

did they ever expressly say he's just a genius genius who has mastery over all this stuff i guess they didn't say that right well yeah maybe they did though but yeah it's possible they did there's a lot they threw a lot at you yeah there's a lot of introductions there's a lot of things and and and and they threw it at you in dialogue

sure

so yeah so if you're so if you're like if you have a

If you have a thought in your head, even for a second, like of something else other than the movie, you might miss something.

Sure,

yeah, that's probably what happened with me.

Is let's say at times my brain would drift from what I was watching, and maybe that's why I missed some of the things that were on screen to some of the explanations.

There was a moment that I in the movie that I was like, oh, Brian's gonna love this.

And I'm just curious if you even clocked it, Brian, because sometimes when I watch movies, I think about shit.

Oh, Brian's gonna like that.

When she is walking out of the Hall of Justice and she fucking makes fun of Guy Gardner's hair, and he gets up and he goes, what?

What the what?

And then it becomes very clear that he heard exactly what she said because he goes, my hair, my hair.

I was like, oh, that's so fucking funny, bro.

But I think it was interesting.

Somebody called attention to it because I didn't know that that was an ongoing thing like his bad hair did.

Did you like the Hall of Justice?

I thought it was great, man.

Like straight from the fucking comic and shit like that.

It looked cool.

I'll tell you.

I thought it was straight from the cartoon.

Super free.

Oh, I guess that's what I meant.

Yeah, yeah, like the old one.

That's what I meant.

But even the comic book started

too, yeah.

Yeah, started adopting that.

Again, like, I just wish they had either given Hawk Girl a little more to do or cut Hawk Girl out completely.

Yeah.

Because she just flew in that one circle, and I was like, you know, it could have been at some point.

You get like, well, we've got to start giving some time back to Superman.

I did think the same thing that I always think in these movies where I'm like, I look at Metropolis and I'm like, who the fuck lives here?

Like,

building rifts.

Buildings going down like dominoes, kaiju all over the place.

Like,

yeah, yeah.

Seems not safe.

And I was surprised they killed somebody.

I thought it was going to be one of those movies where nobody was fucking nuts.

Yeah.

When they blew that guy right in the fucking head, I was like, whoa, it felt tonally out of the movie a little bit.

Yeah, it really did.

I didn't expect it.

Well, they also killed, the Hawk Girl killed somebody, too.

That I didn't mind.

That I didn't mind.

I was like, okay, I guess that's where they're going with her because that's it.

But Lex doing it, I was like, wow, that is, that seems like Lex not smart enough for Lex.

Like, now he's got to find somebody else to bring in.

It's a second bullet.

Like, Lex doesn't fuck it.

You know what I mean?

Like, do it so he doesn't have to go through all this for nothing.

I was surprised that they did that, that they blew that guy's head out in front of Superman.

That was pretty crazy.

But I liked it.

I really enjoyed it.

I'm looking forward to going to see it in IMAX.

I want to see it on the big, big screen.

I didn't get to do that.

How do you think they also were able to get

crypto to drill?

Like, didn't they have things coming out of his head?

Didn't they have a helmet on?

Was it a helmet on?

And his eyes were like held open by things, right?

He's looking at the squirrels and shit.

Okay, I thought maybe they had put like some sort of they had surgically did something to his head, it looked like

I don't think so.

But I was, I even love the line where he's like, Crypto, get the toy, and then crypto just goes fucking nuts on it.

You're right, everything with crypto was fucking awesome.

It was like straight up awesome.

Yeah, it's it's it's a great, great move on his part to finally introduce those aspects of the

continuity and the

rich Superman lore.

Yeah,

I don't know.

I guess it would be, for me, it was like a five, though.

Five out of ten.

All right.

Yeah, just kind of like, I appreciate the effort to create.

something so different from any Superman movie we've ever seen.

But just some things just did not click for me.

But style-wise, man, the fucking Metamorpho looked amazing.

Yeah, it looked great.

It's too bad, like, he just can't hold his own movie, though.

And they did what Marvel did, which was like introduce these characters and movies, then bring them all together.

Which I don't think DC has that same kind of confidence in their

movies or their their they're going to sink in you know $150 million to make a solo Metamorpho movie.

Probably not.

But he's joining.

It seemed like he was joining the Justice League at the end, though, right?

Yeah, definitely.

Yeah, so maybe he'll be around.

And that character is...

You know the actor who played Metamorpho is?

Did you watch Barry, Brian?

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

He's the ball.

Hank.

Hank, yeah.

Yeah.

I was like, oh, that's fine.

No ho, Hank.

Yeah, all right.

Well, I had a feeling.

I did have a feeling when I was watching a Walt that your review is going to come in somewhere around here.

Yeah.

I did.

As I was watching it, I was like,

you know, just like I was watching with Brian, knowing that they're going to like that haircut scene, I had a feeling this was kind of going to be your issues with it.

I completely understand, Ben, but I'm just telling you, I was so happy in that theater watching Superman fucking fly around and be a really good guy.

And, you know, I know that, like, just, you know, he felt like Superman to me, which I love.

Oh, yeah.

So I'm saying the actor did come off as completely

pure and

pure of heart.

Like, this is maybe the purest of heart Superman since Christopher Reeve.

Yeah.

And maybe more so than Christopher Reeve, even.

Christopher Reeve kind of was kind of had to play a little bit of Superman with a little bit of a kind of a little bit, just a bit of spite.

You know, he did go back.

Remember, he did go back to the back of the back.

He went back to that diner.

It's awesome that he did it, though, right?

It's fucking awesome.

He puts him through the pinball machine.

Yeah, shit like that.

Yeah, I don't think this current 2025 Superman, I think he's so good of heart, he wouldn't even do that.

He's not petty enough to fly to fucking Alaska or wherever the fuck that diner was and start shit all over again.

I mean, think about that.

Like, right?

Like, he flew there and he's waiting over the diner till that guy sat down and he's like, oh, fuck, he's here.

I'm going to get him.

It was awesome.

It's great.

But fantastic for his now I'm pinning all my hopes.

And that last little bit of teaser we got, man, was so,

so gripped me with the, you know, where he's doing the press conference read and they're like, what did Galactus say?

He's like, he's like, we couldn't come to terms at Galactus.

And he goes, well, what were the terms?

It's like,

he wanted our child, which we thought, which we were not, was not negotiable.

And to me, that's like, oh, that's cool.

I want, I'm really intrigued now.

I really want to see this movie bad, and I'm hoping that it is the

summer flick for me, the comic book summer flick for me.

Yeah, I'm with you, man.

I'm excited to see it.

Nothing I've seen so far has poked me off of that.

Nothing, yeah.

Me, I agree.

Yeah, the female Silver Surfer was like, come on, man, what are you guys doing?

Until I saw her in action, and I'm like, oh, I guess who gives it?

Yeah, I could, yeah, like she seems creepy and cool.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

She looks like

even the small snippets we've seen, she does look good, though.

So

be it.

Like you said,

I think, like you said, I think she's

out of continuity or a different world and alternate world Silver Surfer.

So maybe we'll see a Norin Rad Silver Surfer the next time we see a Marvel movie.

I guess Secret Wars, maybe in Secret Wars, we'll see a Norin Rad.

That'd be fucking cool.

I thought he even looked good in the one that they made 15, 20 years ago, like Rise of the Silver Surfer.

I thought he looked pretty cool.

He looked like Living Chrome.

Yeah, it was dope, man.

I don't know.

It's a good time, man.

I'm excited to see where James Gunn goes with this shit next.

I'm excited for Peacemaker Season 2 starts up soon.

I love that first season, man.

I think it's so great.

I'm declaring

it's a good time to be a comic book fan again.

It feels like we're getting back to good stuff.

your nerdgasm

fucking nerdgasm popping off

yeah even even at our advanced age you're still popping nerdgasms huh that's great that's the one thing yeah no no blue chew you don't need that you know you just

i don't need no nerd glue chew

that's awesome that you still can you know yeah still

Yeah, can pop off for, you know, I even saved the ticket stub from Superman.

I can't tell you the last time I did that.

Wow.

I put it on the fridge with a magnet.

That is fucking, that is so nerdy.

It's fucking wholesome and pure.

I loved it.

This sounds like you're calling me gay.

I don't know why.

It sure does.

There was no reels.

And even Kat doesn't get no, she gets no setup.

Or Steve Lombardi.

Yeah.

Those were, I felt, Easter eggs for guys like me and you.

We're not going to tell you.

There's just not enough time.

Look, she's in a fucking, she's got big blonde hair.

She's got big fake tits.

She's in a dress.

You know it's Kat Grant if you know who she is.

If you don't, then I don't know what to tell you.

That's it.

It shouldn't hurt your, it should not hurt your ability to enjoy the movie if you don't know who Kat Grant is.

Right, right, right.

And I was surprised they gave Steve Lombard as much time as they did.

Oh, yeah.

I was like,

they're really in love with this character.

And I thought Lois, you know,

other than flying a spaceship, I thought she was fine to her, whatever she was given to, you know, the lifting she was able to do.

And I thought she did a good job, too.

Yeah, I thought she did a good job.

And I liked when she was yelling at the Justice League, being like, this is your fucking friend, assholes.

Like, you're going to fucking leave them in there.

And I was like, that's fucking, I was like, this is awesome.

Like, that's cool.

You know, she's going to them for help and she's telling them why they're assholes.

Yeah, I just dug it.

But, you know, you did see the nod to.

the modern audience where he was like, Suriname comes out of the pocket universe and he's like, Lois, you came to rescue me.

Because for fucking 100 years prior, Suriname had to rescue her.

Okay, we get it.

You're a modern-day fucking filmmaker.

But something lessons about

you normally.

I agree with you normally.

There's something about Lois Lane for me that

excuses that a little bit.

Okay, I know.

Like if Vicki Val was running around, dude, I'd be like, Come on, man.

I like my Lois tied up on a fucking train track.

That's my mom.

That's the Lois I grew up with.

General Sam Lane's daughter, bro.

She knows how to kick ass.

And who is the flag guy?

Was that setting up suicide squad stuff?

Remember the flag, the general flag?

Oh, yeah.

He's

that's Rick Flag Sr.

His father was the

character already appeared in the Creature Commandos cartoon.

Voiced by the same man.

So the Suicide Squad.

It happened.

Yeah.

His son got killed by Peacemaker.

But wait a minute, though.

So if Peacemaker's in Suicide Squad,

that means

all those characters exist in this universe, too, then?

Yes.

So far, yeah.

So Harley Quinn exists.

I would say I'm sure there's going to be some explanation in the second season of Peacemaker to make it line up.

Okay.

Because they were already doing a multiverse thing in the the commercial for Peacemaker.

Okay.

Oh, okay.

So I bet you they're going to find a way to line it up

because he plays what?

I was going to say, because we already met a flag in Suicide Squad.

Remember, Flag?

This is his father.

That's his father.

Okay.

Yeah, Peacemaker killed his son.

He mentions that in the Creature Commandos card.

Gotcha, okay.

Yeah.

All right.

So he's doing that thing where if somebody voices, like, they want the actors to do the voices in the cartoon so they could have all the continuity mix over and stuff.

Gotcha.

Gotcha.

Yeah, so there was that.

His hair was white in the cartoon and not in the movie, which I was like, oh, maybe that's

maybe that's a sign that it's another universe or something, but I don't know.

Are there too many universes?

I mean, I'm ready to be done with the multiverse.

But Walt, think about how...

when we owned the multiverse, right?

Remember those days when nobody knew what the fuck the idea of the multiverse was?

I missed those days.

And we did.

What's that?

I missed those days.

I missed those fucking days.

Like, what happened?

They came along, they took one of our toys, and they fucking abused it to the ground so they could give us 50 versions of Spider-Man.

It's like, guys, fucking fuck you guys.

Like, does nobody care about these characters enough to fucking not make 100 versions of them?

No.

Remember when Peter Parker was special?

Marvel doesn't.

Oh.

Wow.

Yeah.

All right.

Sorry.

I wish the multiverse would go away for a little bit, though, yeah?

We got other things to talk about, Q.

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I had a Spider-Man wallet once.

It wasn't a Ridge wallet.

And I remember I had birthday money in it and I left it at

a store.

And

I

probably

was the most unconsolable as I've ever been in my life as I realized my wallet and my 10 bucks in birthday money was gone.

That horrible realization that both were gone.

So I need one of those air tag attachments.

Yeah, I mean, I it was 1975.

I don't know if any air tag would have would have helped in that situation, but boy, I remember that

took a long time to get over.

Yeah, there was thoughts of

just ending it.

Even at that age, I was like, there's no point living.

I've lost the wallet.

Supposed to go on now?

Birthday money.

$10 gone, wallet gone.

$10 and

that gets you left.

That was like $50,000.

Oh, yeah.

That fucking...

Whew.

That's still raw when I think of it now.

That wound still hasn't really fully healed.

And you wonder who found it?

Who threw your wallet away after taking the $10 out?

Yeah, I remember.

I'm a son of a fucking bitch.

Yeah, I wish I hadn't thought of that.

Walt, I wanted to give you a little piece of advice before we go.

Yes.

If you bring your side piece to a Cold Play concert, I saw this.

Yeah, I saw this.

Do not hug them.

Keep at a decent remove.

Otherwise, you're going to get lost.

I saw this.

Somebody made the comment and it's so true is that, well, go ahead, explain it though, before.

Okay, so there was a Cold Play concert and they have a kiss cam just like they have in some of the sports arenas.

And they focused on a guy who was a woman who was standing in front of a guy and he had his arms wrapped around her.

Canoodling.

Canoodling.

So they were the, you know, they were both facing the same way.

They're both facing towards the...

towards the stage.

And the kiss cam goes up and the look of shock that registers on their faces is priceless.

Like, you couldn't, like, Meryl Streep couldn't have had that look.

I don't think if they told her, she had to look scared from being caught cheating.

And she, like,

I guess in that moment, you're like, maybe I'm faster than the camera.

And she tries to, like, cover her face up, and the guy ducks away.

Yeah, but somebody made a comment, and I was like, oh, yeah, they're like, if they had just played a cool, because to my knowledge, this wasn't being broadcast on television or anything, right?

No, so if they didn't bring attention to themselves acting so guilty,

nobody would have even noticed it, and it probably never would have, it never would have made the internet.

But the fact that they acted the way they did as if they were like the entire planet was watching them.

And they are now.

Yeah,

that's the takeaway is that

if you had just played it Joe Cool

and not acted as if you had your hand in a cookie jar, Cold Play never would have mentioned it.

They wouldn't have commented on it.

It would have gone on to somebody else and nobody would have ever known.

You got to be a quick thinker, though, because I think your initial reaction is to be like, Oh, fuck, yes, I'm busted.

And you can't,

once you put on that face,

people know.

And the girl, the girl, I saw a little interview with the girl who actually recorded it, because she recorded it with her phone off, the Kiss Cam.

Yeah, that's where it came from.

And she was like, She's like, I just got all this I have to say to you is play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Yeah, she had no empathy, no sympathy for anything.

That sucks.

That's what you get for going to Cold Play concert, I guess.

I thought you were a Cold Play guy.

No, quite the opposite.

Really?

Okay, because I like a couple songs from Cold Play.

Yeah.

God put a Smile on You.

I like that song.

I'm not here to stop you from enjoying something.

I like that song.

You don't like Cold Play?

Weren't they like the

Millennium Beatles or so they called them?

I think you're talking about Oasis, buddy.

Oh, am I confusing?

They kind of sound like that.

He likes Oasis, yeah.

I like Oasis.

Oasis doesn't suck, man.

I've been telling you this since I was fucking keeping my CD from getting stolen in Pittsburgh, dude.

It's true.

Wow, I don't have anything against Oasis.

It's like 99.

Yeah, man.

Why don't you?

What's the holdup of ColePlay?

What don't you like about them?

I find their songs a little like

obvious, if that makes sense.

Like it it it it just never connected with me.

I'm always just like, I I look, I can't perform this,

but I could write this.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, I don't know, something about Cold Play.

By the numbers, you're saying for me.

And and and I have gotten a lot of pushback over the years about from people who are like, oh, Cold Play's fucking awesome and stuff, and blah, blah, blah.

I've just never connected with their music.

Now, are they the two brothers are always fighting?

That's Oasis.

Oh, fuck man.

Do a lot of people confuse Oasis and Cold Play?

This is the first time I've heard it.

I can't imagine that it's

not

happening.

Okay, because I, wow, I just think when I think of those two bands, I kind of

conflate them.

Almost like Oasis Play.

Like, they're just like one big band.

No, Oasis is like grittier and more blue-collar working-class type of play.

Brian just rolled his eyes

when you used the word gritty to you.

Well, Well, I'm talking about

in comparison to Coldplay.

Okay, okay.

You know.

And also, they are grittier than.

I saw comments where, like, can you imagine finding out your husband likes Coldplay this way?

A lot of comments like that.

Oh, so it's kind of like you would kind of be

looked

as an insult to say you like Coldplay.

No, I think they're a very popular band.

Is it like Nickelback?

When people make fun of people who like Nickelback?

See, here's the truth: I would probably like Nickelback songs more than Coldplay.

Oh.

People love Coldplay.

There are.

I do.

I'm one of those people.

I like that one song.

And I'm going to defend them

to my

shit out of it.

I don't want to shit.

I thought it was funny this guy, the CEO of the company.

He was with the HR.

I mean, everything about it is just awesome.

It's the CEO of the company with the HR lady.

Breaking a lot of rules.

I mean, you're really like fucking saying fuck you to everybody in the company.

He's fucking cold play, baby.

Who gives a shit?

Let's party.

But he came forward and he like he issued an apology and a statement and all this stuff.

And I'm like, I wouldn't say a goddamn word.

It's not like it was like, say, J-Lo and Ben got caught cheating or something like that.

It's like, it's just some guy.

No, I heard this was a bigwig.

I heard this was a big big compige.

Well, yeah, he's the CEO of a big company for sure.

A big company.

He's the third largest tech company on the planet or something like that.

Oh, is it really that big?

Okay.

I think he's a fucking mover and shaker in the industry.

And again, like you said, though, when you're, you have, you have an HR department and you

fucking get caught doing that, and yet, but you're going to hold your employees to understand.

Maybe you've even fired some of these people for, but you're, but you're too big to follow the rules.

Oh, well,

guess why?

Yeah, it's like it's one of those things where like, you don't really have a dog in the fight, but you're still injured.

That's why I fucking love Cold Play, man.

Cold Play fucking put it truth to power or like, fuck you and your fucking rules.

That's what Cold Play does.

It'll follow the rules.

I would love for you to listen to a Cold Play album

and give me a review.

Would you do that for me?

Would you try it and see how far you can get?

What do you mean?

I have to own a Cold Play album.

It has that song on it.

God Put a Smile on Your Face.

It's the only track I listen to.

But that doesn't mean I don't love the other tracks, though, because I do.

I'll give a listen to it.

I'll listen to the opportunity.

Cool boy is punk.

That's what they did, right?

This is the guy that fucking consciously uncoupled from fucking WhatsApp.

He just seems like.

Yeah, he's like a.

Look, I don't know the guy.

I'm sure he's a nice guy, but he comes off his very human.

Noel Gallagher.

He's self-serious.

Right?

Noel Gallagher is the dude?

No, that's always.

Yeah, that's the other guy.

Nolan Liam.

Chris Martin, Chris Sutton.

Chris Martin, I think.

You're right.

Who's Noel Gallagher then?

That's Cole Play, a guy, I think.

I don't know.

Liam and Noel Gallagher are the brothers in Oasis.

But I love the fact that they just take down fucking multi-billionaires like that.

They don't.

Some girl did.

Yeah, but with Cole Play's fucking permission.

Yeah, that's true.

Well, Coldplay called them out.

The guy called them out.

He was like, they're either really shy or they're having an affair.

And he was right.

Oh, man.

The Cold Play has been like, they'd reform for this tour, right?

I don't, I have no fucking.

Oh, Oasis did.

Oasis did.

Yes.

Dude, I think you just like Oasis.

I don't think you know a single Cold Play song, dude.

Tell him, Steve, Dave.

I think you're right.

I don't know what I'm talking about.