#580: Mother Ducker

I haven't seen him put food in his mouth yet.

That's a surprise.

Thank God for Walt Flanagan.

We can't get through a video, making a video without him shitting his pants.

A nurse, I think Mrs.

Johnson puts his pants.

Tell him, Steve, Dave.

Hello, and welcome to this week's edition of Tell him Steve Dave.

I look around this table and I see such an array of beautiful faces.

Walt Flanagan, how you doing, Walt?

Yeah, Walt Flanagan, everybody, Walt Flanagan.

All right, let's do it for Walt.

Yeah, BQ.

Hey, you gotta be that handsome devil.

All right, BQ.

Yeah, yeah.

Get him.

All right, let's give it to get him.

Get him, I was thinking about you this morning.

Oh, and I don't want to drive this into the ground too much because we covered a lot of it last week.

But Q, I'm not even sure if you're aware of this, but Ralph Sorella from the Howard CERN show

has died.

No.

Yes.

Are you fucking kidding me?

Yeah, he died.

He died yesterday at 58.

How?

uh we're not sure but it appears that he had uh an illness that he was not addressing he didn't have health insurance and he would never go to the doctor and he didn't make it a priority sad his stylist yeah i was a stylist yeah i remember him wow i liked ralphie i know a lot of people had issues with him but he's been i mean that's such a weird thing I'm experiencing right now because it's like he's been part of my life since the late 80s when they did the channel 9 show yeah

I never met met him.

I saw him once at a party, but I never met him.

But

you just listen to a guy for decades and

wow.

Oh, man, what a bummer.

Yeah.

Ralphie Cakes.

Gone.

Every time he called, I liked it.

I always liked him.

Did he survive the transition from

Howard Stern of old to the colonel Howard Stern?

He survived the regime changes and everything.

Not the regime change, but the...

Well, I think, well, the change in tone and all that stuff.

He survived yeah he survived it

most of them

remained the owner like Howard would like benefited from having

or benefits from having the guys around him who were still doing the sort of crazier stuff that he used to do so he gets to have that respectability now a little bit but it's all still there okay yeah

oh man that's it happened yesterday happened yesterday I believe yeah because Howard talked about it this morning oh he's got to be devastated he said he sounded like he was getting choked up he didn't like, you know, break down or anything.

He wasn't jokey about anything.

You know, he.

Wow.

That's.

I wish you hadn't started the show by telling me that because I'm like, kind of

right now.

Oh,

what's that?

He looked bamboozled.

He doesn't know what to think.

Yeah, I mean, I guess at the end of the day, you know, I don't, he didn't know I exist and I don't know him, you know.

But I don't know.

You put yourself up against him in terms of age and be like, well, if he died at 58.

Oh, I think about that all the time anyway.

Me too.

Oh, God.

It's coming.

Around the bend.

Oh, there it is.

The clearing at the end of the path.

It's on its way.

But Norman Lear.

Norman Lear, who we were just talking about.

104.

One.

101.

Yeah.

Still.

Still.

Still pretty good.

So who knows, you know?

My grandmother always wanted to live to be over 100.

She made it to 98, but she wanted to live to 100 so she could get a letter from the president.

That was her big thing.

Oh, wow.

I think when you turn 100, the president.

The current president.

The current sitting president will send you a letter and congratulate you.

All right.

Something to look forward to.

I guess so.

Yeah.

I mean, who knows who's going to be president by that time?

Well, let's see.

How many more terms would it be?

If you're 55 now, four terms, so another fucking 10 terms.

Yeah, that's going to be a while.

It's going to be a bit.

Yeah.

Yeah, best case scenario, it's

eight years each president, right?

So

that's best case, so it's quite a few presidents.

It'll be good.

Everything will be fine by the day.

It's going to be fine.

It's going to be fine.

It's going to all work out.

Why is everybody so worried?

Everybody's all worried all the time.

Fretting.

It'll be fine.

Fine.

Everything's going to be fine.

Everything's going to be fine.

I do have some good news here, though.

The winner of the four-colored demon guitar from the American Musical Supply is Eric Little of Marion, Indiana.

And we're going to see a picture of that up on

TSD Town later on today.

Congratulations.

i thought you were going to say eric johnson of california

so uh thanks to american musical supply and everybody who entered sorry you know you ended up like q guitarless guitarless guitarless and staten island what can you do though nothing i don't play guitar and i already have like two so this

really like that one would have been cool to put on my wall i definitely would have hung that in my office hey you never know i know you never know what that you know when a winner who's who's gonna go to bat for you with this no one's going to bat for me Can't you?

What's that?

Fucking practical jokes, pop figure made.

You think I'm going to get a custom guitar?

What's the thinking behind that wall?

Yeah, I mean, you got to tell us the inside story.

There is absolutely no inside story.

There has to be a reason.

Did you guys ask for too much money?

We've never

crew.

Did they make the licensing fee just to...

No, there've been plenty.

There's been like four or five action figures of us by now.

But Pop, yeah, but Pop is like

willing to do anybody at this point.

And when you, you guys would have been a surefire, massive mover on the shelves.

We would have sold some, we would have moved some product.

I think, I truly believe it's because comments I've said about the company here on Telen Steve, Dave.

You said something negative about the pop company?

I've taken a couple of shots at them here or there.

And then when it was clear that they weren't going to

chest or did you give us

and then when it when it became clear that well, no, we talked about how like, I remember talking about how, you know, as far as collectibles go, there's billions of them.

I think you called them the next

beanie babies and stuff like that.

You know, and then when it became clear that they were never going to do it with us, I think I just came out swinging on an episode against them.

It is still a head scratcher.

There has to be some reason why they didn't pursue or why it never worked out.

Was there any talks about that?

I've never heard a single thing about it.

Who would handle that, True, or would it you be your king?

Well, True, I guess, would, well, if they wanted to make like a just one of us,

they can make one of us.

They don't need True.

If it just wants to have practical jokers on the thing, which I'm guessing you would want, then you got to go.

You want that late brand recognition?

Could they do Tenderloins?

They could, yeah.

Yeah.

I just think that they,

maybe, you know, much like a lot of people, they just don't give a fuck.

I can't imagine they don't give a fuck because they would fucking sell like crazy.

Like, your fans are the type who want those possibilities.

I believe that's the misstep that Migo took when Star Wars came out in 77.

Migo had first opportunity to make Star Wars figures and they're like, pass.

Oh, I see.

And Kenner then, Kenner then scooped up Star Wars.

And then Migo limped to

the grave about three years later.

You're like the 70s finish line, right?

Yeah, hawking, you know, Buck Rogers shit that nobody cared about.

We're not Star Wars.

You wear the Star Wars every year.

You're not Buck Rogers.

We're not Star Wars.

And then also, Migo ended up making an impractical joker's figure of us.

So they're down with spiral contenders.

I was like, oh, we're not touching that.

They weren't real.

I forgot about it.

Yeah, because you were like, what, like a spider?

As a spider anyway.

It is a head scratcher, though.

We watched a video the other day of a pop display somewhere, and the amount of horrible, horrible pops that are just

in abundance yeah so i mean there's always going to be though hits singles home runs sure yeah and misses and strikeouts and no any company acquiring that many licenses and just grabbing anything and anything that comes down the pike and making a pop figure out of it you know you're going to have some ones that don't sell as well if

not at all.

And then there'll be some that like, you know, you can't keep in stock.

Would you, would you like ours?

Yeah.

Well,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

They were geniuses on that level.

Yeah.

Super limited.

You know, or else they'd have a landfill just

right next to the E.T.

cartridges.

Right next to

the E.T.

cartridges would be the Comic Book Man pop landfill.

Would you rather bobblehead pop or regular vinyl pop?

I don't, I guess.

I didn't know there was a difference.

Yeah, I didn't really know.

Well, some are bobbleheads and some are.

I guess regular.

Okay.

I guess regular.

If you do get them made, get them so that you guys have regular feet and you can stand up.

I can't stand the fucking pops like Sage has a bunch that have like the tiny little feet and they're constantly falling over these fucking pops.

I don't think it's ever going to happen, so I don't think you got to worry about it.

You know,

we have a company called Pod Pals

and

up and comers.

We could churn out.

Yeah.

You know, as long as you don't mind your character wearing

a spell mask.

We got under the radar with that first one.

Do you think we should really push it?

Just putting practical jokers right on it.

With that final stick.

What's this pod pal thing?

With the Z.

Yeah, no, I know.

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It's fucking beautiful.

Oh, it is.

Yeah.

But,

man, that's sad about Ralph.

Man, I'm saying I can't stop.

Now it's in my head.

Yeah.

Poor guy.

Well, I did want to ask, like,

I did want to ask you guys, when do you become an old man?

Is it an age?

I don't want to hear the like, you're only as as old as you feel bullshit.

I remember watching

this 2020 show that you recommended years ago, and you were telling, I mean, we're talking early 90s.

It had part of it was this, these old people who are like, they're just like, you know, teenagers again.

And you're like, I saw this guy going off a diving board.

You have to see it.

He looks like the diving board himself.

He's so stiff, like going into the water.

He almost just sort of falls in, but they're trying to convince you that, you know,

these guys are

still young and like cocoon and shit.

Yeah.

How old was that guy, do you think?

He was in his 90s.

I mean, come on.

Well, you heard the guy from last week, right?

The guy that said to you, he's like, I'm 93 years old, motherfucker.

And he didn't have the old man shuffle.

I think that's the big indication when you start to see the shuffle.

That's when you're the old man.

You know, you've crossed over, and it's just a matter of time.

But as long as you don't have the old man shuffle, I think got a little bit of spring to tier your stuff you can pass.

Vitality.

Yeah, it's

when that shuffle sets in.

I think it comes down to like conditioning, too, because you could

not get stiff.

Like, you could work out.

Like, just do flexibility, and you'll do.

Like, if you see Bob Weir, the Grateful Dead guy, like on his Instagram, he works out like you wouldn't even fucking believe.

And the guy's got to be in his late 60s now.

Jack Lelaine.

Jack Lalane, sure.

Yeah.

It's like people, I think, just slow down.

I think every year for his birthday, he would pull,

he would tow rowboats filled with, enough rowboats to equal his age filled with people.

So, like when he was 88, he towed 88, he swam with pulling 88 rowboats with 88 people in it.

He's proved the point with that one.

You live in water.

Yeah.

That's not us.

That last boat had a propeller on and on.

Well, my birthday is tomorrow, so what do I do?

Do I'm recording this on?

No, no.

No,

it would have been today, actually, according to some people's minds.

Oh, okay.

I was just telling Q, Mary Beth asked me, she's like, what day is your birthday again?

And I thought she meant like, what date?

And I was like, could it be?

Could it be so great for the show and for us?

That she also forgets.

But no, she just wanted to know what day it was on.

I don't know, man.

Crossing over.

Okay, because now this is the way I always think of it in terms of like,

I'm 55, right?

So I'm still halfway there, but now I'm 56.

Yeah.

I'm more than halfway to 60.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Closer to 60 than the 50.

I don't like it.

You don't like it?

I don't like it.

No.

What do you?

Especially with this recent Ralph Sorella news.

Oh, yeah.

It's like, I don't, it's, it's, I think it's natural when somebody dies that's like close to your age, you make it about yourself where you're like, well, if it could happen to him, why couldn't it happen to me?

Sure.

Question your own mortality.

Yeah, of course.

Yeah,

I don't know, man.

When did you notice, have you noticed anything in yourself that you're like, man, I got to keep an eye on that because that is an old man-like way of thinking.

That is an old way, man of doing things.

I got to watch that.

Yes.

Yeah.

I've noticed, this is why,

thank God for Walt Flanagan.

Oh, yeah.

Thank God for Walt Flanagan for so many reasons.

Yes.

But Q only has an hour.

Okay.

So I'm just going to go into all the reasons.

I'm just going to go with this one reason for right now.

And that's Walt, you know, he watches all the video.

Yeah.

If we shoot something for Patreon, patreon.com slash T-E-S-D, if you're not there, go on over there.

Go on, man.

Walt watches all the video, makes sure everything is in line, everything's cut right, everything's edited.

Nothing slips out that, you know, that shouldn't be disastrous.

Now, if Walt were to say to me, like, hey, can you do it?

I wouldn't want to.

I hate watching, I hate watching myself on video.

And I had the unfortunate

experience of doing it recently.

I had to watch something, and I'm sitting there, and before I talk, I'm like going,

I'm like doing this little chewing, old man chewing chewing on nothing.

It's not like I have gum or I'm eating something.

I'm just

you've noticed it?

Oh, really?

Yeah, damn.

I would never say it aloud.

Yeah, I noticed it.

I got to bring it up.

Do I do it all the time?

Because I just noticed on video.

I don't, it's not all the time.

It's not all the time.

I wondered if it was maybe new meds or something.

Could be.

I wondered if there was, yeah, it was such an alarming

constant of it that I was like, maybe it's just like some sort of reaction to medication or something.

Could be, yeah.

Like dry mouth.

I don't know.

Yeah, it's just like a chew.

And I was like, I haven't seen him put food in his mouth yet.

That's a surprise.

So I don't think he's actually chewing food here.

There was no cow in the street.

He's chewing nothing.

Yeah, I got to keep an eye on this.

Yeah.

But I haven't noticed it in real life, though.

Oh, just just on video?

Yeah, only on video.

But I haven't.

And I actually haven't noticed it in quite some time, though.

It was an older video that I noticed.

Maybe it has subsided a lot because I haven't noticed it recently.

Okay.

So maybe that's not as bad as I thought it was.

Old man chewing.

Yeah, yeah.

No, my hearing is still.

Is it really?

I mean, there's a far worse thing

that can be quite like old man losing bowel control.

Yeah.

Yeah, that would be far worse for everybody in the room and you.

Unless it it were on video.

No.

Yeah, it's just a domino, though.

It's on its own.

It's nothing, but like if it's the first domino to fall, it's chewing, and then that leads up the last domino shitting your pants.

Here it comes, Walt.

You're going to get it on video.

Hopefully, we're done by the time that domino has fallen.

Or if we're not, that's when it definitely would call it a night and turn the light switch off.

Yeah, we quit.

If we can't get through a video, making a video of that him shit in his pants.

A nurse, I think Mr.

Johnson puts his pants

again.

Do you think you could do one more Christmas one before we wrap it up?

He's not eating it, is he?

He keeps chewing.

Can you put some extra powder down there, please?

A little extra talc, if you don't mind.

Did you go boom, boom, Mr.

Jay?

I'll just kick you up, Mr.

Jay.

I'm still 56.

Oh, yeah.

But I was at breakfast yesterday with Mary Beth, and I'm just looking at her, and I'm like, unless I do one of those age progression things, I'm like, I'll never see what you look like when you're old.

Yeah.

That could be a good thing.

Yeah, lots of filters.

I could look, and then be like, oh, you're gross.

I want a divorce.

Maybe hire a makeup artist.

Like they do on those Star Trek episodes.

A makeup artist?

Yeah, like ager.

Oh, the prosthetics.

Yeah, probably the filter's cheaper.

I don't need to see it that bad either.

Sit in a chair for 13 hours.

Yeah, I mean, I've noticed changes in myself for sure.

Yeah.

Like, just mentally, even physically.

But I don't mind it.

I kind of like it.

Like, I'm kind of into it.

Into what?

Into like seeing your body change, like seeing hair come out of places that you never saw it come out.

Well, like the slowing down.

Really?

Like the start of it.

I'm starting to see the start of it, and I'm kind of like, I don't mind.

See, when you slow down in your 20s, like I did,

you don't get, you know, I disagree.

You seem to be more energetic now than fucking ever.

I agree with that.

Well, like, you can't keep up with this guy.

It's him and Jimmy the hair guy.

Yeah.

That's what happens when you hang out with Jimmy the Hair guy.

I'm going to have to hang out with you.

You start smelling that.

You start getting a whiff of that fucking youthful energy, man.

It's

better than Coke.

Wow.

i'm sure jimmy would disagree

a main line in jimmy yeah

i want to sort some jimmy off the jimmy's cock

jimmy's like remember the twilight time episode kicked a can where when he's getting younger like that's jimmy

i'll stop hanging out with him well i think come on

isn't he only like how old is he i think he's in his 30s is he in his 30s 30s but I feel that

last year,

I

was in such a bad mental place and physically at this time that, yeah, now I'm just like,

now that I feel good and I feel really good now that I'm like, I can't fucking slow down, man.

I only got so much time left.

Yeah.

You know, might as well pick it up now because who knows?

I'm breaking up thinking about it.

But who knows when it can can all turn around like that?

So, fucking Ralph Sorella.

Let's

see.

Let's kick it up a notch.

Bam.

I want to kick it up a notch with you, Walt.

You've inspired me

after tonight.

I got time.

He can't keep up with me walking down to him.

I thought you turned your back on him.

I thought you turned your back on him.

Dude, you need to get the rent paid.

I can walk down there with you.

I can walk down there with you.

I might even be able to charm the landlady.

Yeah.

All right.

Yeah, what if you send both of us down?

We're the other guy's representatives.

Yeah.

It took us a half hour to get here.

We'll be like ZZ Top and sway her.

Can you point us in the direction back we've kind of

got back to our office?

It's just a straight line.

I know, but we don't know which door to go.

Do you know the number?

There's a picture of you above the door.

We both have notes pinned on our jackets.

Okay, I'll remember the first number.

You remember the second number.

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for a loan.

We've got two wanderers, guys.

Last scene done by Perkins.

Last scene chewing and hobbling.

Chewing and hobbling.

Oh, my God.

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uh

walt did you want to go to the last kiss show i saw some people posting photos of themselves and very excited to go to the last kiss show i had an opportunity to go many months ago and when i heard the ticket prices i was like

is that what scared you off

it was the price and and

the

knowledge of kiss yeah the history of kiss and knowing that probably it wasn't going to be something that

would live up to my expectations of the last KISS show in terms of like how I think you should go out.

It looked like they were not going to even come near to the

extravagant, you know, the extravaganta that I think a lot of KISS fans are hoping for.

All I see is people disappointed that the show didn't honor

us.

It was just a

run-of-the-mill KISS show.

Right.

You know,

Rupp, you know, Brian Rupert of Licensed Pod, he went to the next to last show and the last show, two nights, and he said they were identical shows.

He's that big of a Kiss fan, huh?

Oh, he's a huge Kiss fan, yeah.

Is he a fan of many things?

Is he like Jimmy almost?

Where like Jimmy's a fan of everything, including the yarn lady.

But he was, yeah, he was not

impressed, or he felt like there should have been more like

emotion and more something special, unique should have happened at that last show rather than it just be the same exact show that they've been putting on for the last 20 years.

But to Kiss's credit, though, all they kept saying was, like, there are going to be no special guests.

Nobody is coming up on.

They kept telling everybody because it wasn't, it wasn't Ace.

We know it's a curveball.

You know, they're all going to be up there.

The OG members are going to come back on stage and perform one last song.

They're just saying that.

No, they weren't just saying that.

Well, he said that.

I wonder what stops him because it would be like, imagine seeing Ace Ace and Peter up there.

Like, if you're a hardcore Kiss fan, and this is like the last, as far as you know, this is the last show you'll ever go to because they're not touring anymore.

What would be better for the fans?

Like,

to see

Peter and Ace up there with them, like you said, for one song.

For the fans, it would be amazing.

I guess for the guys in the band, though, and the guys not in the band, I think it was too

tall a mountain to climb to get to

come to an agreeable term or

pride and ego and hurt feelings, and

slinging mud for the last year

is

hard to overcome.

You know, and it's got to be tough.

Like,

it's fucking really tough, I think, for Peter and Ace when you leave the band and you think it's going to crash and burn, and it doesn't.

Yeah, but didn't soar either.

It just kept going at the same

place.

It's not like KISS, like they left and then KISS became something that it wasn't when they were there.

It just, like you said, they had a little dip, but then they rose to

the hair metal heights.

They were just, they could keep up with any hair metal band in the mid-80s, and

then they brought the makeup back on and they kind of stopped making new music, although they did, but nobody paid attention to it.

But it's still, it's like,

I can only imagine how

bitter it is to see something

thrive when you think when you leave it may fall and fucking shatter and it doesn't.

Right.

And well, that's on them, though.

Because like

they shouldn't be opening themselves, like, why are you walking away from being like, I hope it fails?

You got kicked out or you left of your own accord or you just didn't get along.

Everybody was being dickheads.

Yeah.

So it's like, well, you can't do it without me.

I'll show you.

I'll show you.

Yeah, but I would argue the way to still do it is to just be like,

walk away and just for your own mental health, just be like, it's got nothing to do with me anymore.

But isn't it sweet, though, if it fucking cracks a button?

Isn't it sweet?

Yeah, for sure, it'd be sweet.

Isn't it sweet when you walk away from if you walk away from something and it fucking fails miserably and

then you have that satisfaction?

Well, it was me.

I don't know.

Most things get better when I walk away.

The Germans call it Schautenfreud.

What's that called?

The Schaudenfreud, the joy of suffering at Shameful joy.

Yeah, shameful joy.

This is why I love to have Gidem here, man.

I knew what it meant.

Can I hang out too?

But you didn't spit it out quick enough, though.

I didn't.

You wouldn't spit it out, but it was paying me out later.

I'm like, what's he talking about?

Why don't you bring it up now out of context?

Because I don't need to.

I don't need to let you.

It must be new meds.

I thought I was going to blame everything on the meds.

Oh, boy.

You didn't have any interest?

No, you know, so you didn't want to go with Sunday College?

I don't know, man.

We haven't been as tight as we were.

Like, ever since that height that we hit,

it's hard to recreate it.

Yeah.

Yeah, but you weren't like, you didn't buy into the hype last show.

Last show.

I'm sure you heard about it.

I thought the last time I went was supposed to be the last show.

That's what I thought.

And then you guys said that they just, I was like, no, they sounded great.

And you guys were like, no, they just lip sync now.

They don't even sing.

So I was like, all right, well, then, you know, if I'm not going with Sunday Jeff and they're lip-syncing singing anyway, and I already thought I was at the last fucking show, then fuck it.

No, there was nothing like, you can't get caught up in the excitement of like, this is the last show.

You got to be there.

No.

No.

I don't care.

Not about Kiss.

Especially the garden.

I mean, because it's so close to you.

I know, but not about Kiss.

Kiss wouldn't do it for me.

Billy Joel.

I'd be like, if it's his last show, I'd want to be at that one.

I'd like to go see Billy Joel.

Yeah.

If you ever get swing tickets for that, keep it.

I can't, but we can buy tickets and go if you want.

Okay.

Yeah.

All right.

I thought I would do it.

I thought I tried already.

They don't give away any.

Bill Jolls doesn't need to give anyway.

And I guess because New York guys, I've noticed this a lot.

Like New York guys who perform at the garden, as he often does, will make it a rule that they're not giving away any tickets because a local show is like hundreds of people come out of the woodworks because you grew up, your high school buddies, everybody, everybody.

So they just make a rule like, no, no, no giveaways.

I think I heard he reserves the front section and then he finds enthusiastic.

He has them go around and find enthusiastic fans to come down

to those seats that are really, really, really excited.

Well, that's cool.

Do you remember?

We had occasion to be in Vegas a couple years ago, and we went to an Elton John show.

Yeah.

And do you remember that the first couple rows, I guess, I think it's reserved for

super fans because you gave me a 50 milligram edible when I thought it was a 10.

Yeah, he got knocked out.

Really?

Is that a lightweight?

No.

No, no.

50 milligrams is a lot.

It's a lot.

Like Snoop Dogg?

Yeah.

Maybe eat it at 50 and be kind of.

Snoop Dogg could be okay.

Yeah, you'd probably be okay.

But it's also like

it's a balancing act.

And when, you know,

you must have been part.

I was all off balance because you were drinking and everything.

I was drinking, but I was drinking at a 10 milligram.

We were doing a balance.

If you knew you had a 50, you would have

dialed it back.

The scientists and you would have

the beakers and

like a beautiful mind.

It was like a very bad thing.

But no, but I saw it.

You don't be double fisted.

Remember, no.

Very little of that concert.

Except that I had a great time.

It seemed that the first two rows were reserved for fan club people.

Like you had to be hardcore Elton John fan club people.

And at a certain point, a fight broke out.

Something I never thought I would see.

I never thought I would see it.

I was getting fucked up at an Elton John.

Yeah.

I was shocked.

Yeah, we were watching.

Like, what the fuck?

He was better.

I was at our Don Rickles show when AC and a fight broke out.

That's the craziest thing I ever saw.

Unconnected to the

crowd.

Just in the crowd, two people started swinging on my chair.

Don's on stage going, all right, all right, everybody.

All right, all right.

No, no, don't do that.

Don't do that.

Like he was so worried that somebody was going to get hurt.

So Elton John, you know.

Elton John, you don't recall that.

I don't remember shit.

I don't remember shit.

So now did you hear about the big reveal at the end of the kiss show?

No.

Is it a spoiler alert?

Oh, you're going to spoil it for everybody listening.

Okay, no, no, no, that's why I was saying that there was spoilers.

Go ahead.

They could tune out.

They teamed up with ILM, and it's now digital avatars.

We'll be doing every concert.

Wait, like the, what do you mean?

Like holograms?

Yes.

Holograms slash digital avatars.

Wait, so holograms are going to be doing further KISS concerts?

Yes.

Gene, to preserve them forever for the Kiss Army, they had themselves scanned, and now they can truly perform as KISS.

Gene can have wings of fire and breathe fire.

And this is what they did at the concert?

Yes, at the end of the concert,

they promised a special last song, and that was the special last song.

And then they flashed up QR codes, and it led you to a commercial for the new KISS

avatars.

Yeah.

What's the technology behind that?

ILM.

What's ILM?

Industrial Light Magic.

Right, okay.

But what's the technology that they're using?

From what I saw, face scanning, so they scan their faces.

How are they displaying the avatars on stage?

I guess.

I'm sorry.

My question's not clear.

I think it's like Laser Zeppelin.

Remember Laser Zeppelin back in the day?

So you brought it up.

It's like outlines of them.

It's a little bit better than that.

I think it's like

Abbott did it last two years ago.

It's like holograms.

Remember?

And

to me, it looks like you're going to see a movie, though.

It looked like a video game.

Yeah, it has to be behind the screen.

It has to be on the screen.

But perhaps they give you glasses so that it seems 3D-ish.

Hey, they're taking a swing, man.

I don't think the technology is there yet for what they're trying to go for.

I think it's still probably like 40 years out

in terms of seeing something that'll blow your socks off.

Yeah, because ABBA was like Tron Legacy when they de-aged Flynn.

I didn't see it.

Oh, okay.

Uncanny Valley.

Like, it really kicked in, and you're like, this just looks too unnatural.

Yeah, but

Rup was livid when he found out that was the big reveal.

Oh, really?

He texted me the night of the show.

He's giving me the play-by-play.

He's like,

I was in shop, right?

180-degree, 360-degree different experience than he has.

He's in the garden watching it, and he's giving me the play-by-play.

And he goes, I think that they're going to announce that the new version of Kiss is going to be their sons.

Paul has a son, and Gene has a son, about the same age.

And they were in a band that opened

for Kiss that night.

So he thought they were going to pass on the baton

to the sons, and they were going to just get another Spaceman and another Catman.

And son of Gene would be the demon, and son of Paul would be the star god.

And

that wasn't the case.

And I remember thinking, I was like, you know, that's pretty fucking cool.

I go, that's like, if they could sing, if they could pull it off, I said, keep it in the family.

I mean, it's, that's at least.

a lot cooler than Edgar handing me a hammer and being like, where you gotta swing it, boy.

But and then, and then I said, I thought that was at least a decent idea.

And if they come out and they perform, you know, with the sons and they're in makeup too, I go,

that's at least a different 100-degree opposite of what I thought would happen at the last show, but at least it's different.

Yeah, it wasn't the case.

They trotted out this little video that looked, it looked like a PlayStation game.

Yeah.

Wow.

And people go crazy anyway.

Rubb said that the crowd was kind of just like bewildered.

They didn't know what to make of it.

They didn't know what was actually going on.

And I jumped over onto the Kiss subreddit and they were just completely upset over there.

Really?

Yeah.

We're being a little hard on Kiss.

Fuck Kiss.

Fuck them.

I remember how they treated you.

I never forgive them for that.

I appreciate that.

I'm still a massive fan.

I can't take away all the great memories of growing up, but I feel like we're being a little hard on Kiss this episode.

You know, it's Kissmas.

We're really fucking dragging them.

I mean, we're just analyzing their latest move.

I mean, I think that's fair play.

As a fan, though, you're just like, the second I see a QR code go up, I'm like, oh my God.

Like, they'll never stop until they're in the grave.

And even beyond, from beyond the grave, I'm sure Gene's going to have a money-making idea.

Sure.

Yeah, they have the Kiss coffins.

Kiss coffins.

You could buy his ashes, I'm sure, at some point.

Really?

Special comic with other ashes in the ink.

But you have to admit, I mean, the guy's insanely successful at it.

Yeah.

He's a good marketer.

Yeah.

I've never been a good marketer, man.

I've never been a good self-promoter.

I hate it, but he loves it.

Yeah.

He's never met a piece of merchandise that he didn't like.

And I feel that's where the criticism can come in.

It's like, if it's really, really cool, yeah, do it.

But if it's like

super fringe and it's like going to be like met with like

snickers.

Yeah, like it's not worth it.

Yeah, it's not worth it.

Just don't do it.

I'll tell you, that's why I always blocked the Impractical Joker's pop figures.

I never thought

the quality was going to be up to what I wanted.

I didn't want to make like a money grab that made no sense.

So I always blocked it.

Fucking there's definitely kiss pops, right?

Like how many has got like a billion of them?

I think there's multiple versions of them, too.

I mean, I don't think there's as many kiss pops as there are J and Bob pops, though.

Every time you fucking turn around, there's a new j and bob pop coming up marybeth showed me the other day she said go check these out i'm like again must be working for you has to be working yeah god bless them uh speaking of concerts how okay well deb wants to go to a concert this is usually not the case right you know who she wants to go see again who does she want to go see rob zombie get out of here so she was so impressed about rob zombie i remember i remember like she texted the girls like like a picture like where she's at they're like where are you like at a rob zombie concert and then i text it back i go Mom, don't be alarmed, I wrote, but mom just turned into a Satanist.

But she was like, so impressed.

That's so, she goes, I would see that again.

Like, I love the costumes and the lights.

She goes, I couldn't understand any of the songs or any of the

things.

And she loved the showmanship of it.

But go ahead.

Oh, well, so say Deb wants to go see Rob Zombie.

Again.

Again.

Or for the 15th time.

I'm like, I don't know.

Well, no, you're right.

About for the 15th time.

Because now I'm going to another show that's not at the BC.

Oh, Oh, you're traveling, huh?

Now I got to travel.

No, it's not overnight, but it is 90 minutes away.

Yeah, then you.

I got to do it.

You got to do it.

Where is it?

It's 90 minutes away in a place called Englewood, New Jersey.

I wasn't familiar with Englewood.

It's high-end.

Is it?

Yeah.

I'm sure you're going to have to pay a lot for your lattes at that show.

Like that one.

I said, I see lattes coming.

I don't want to see a comedy.

You don't see that at a blockchain.

I haven't seen that.

They're not fucking rocking like Rob's zombie.

They're not rocking like Rob Rob Zombie, but I didn't see many lattes at the concert.

A lot of women, it almost seems like

their

main demographic is a lot of kind of sadder women.

Not sad, like, yo, you're sad, bitch.

Yeah, like melancholy.

Yeah, yeah, like emo, almost.

Emo a little bit, yeah.

Like age from like, say, 30 to 60, I would say in that age range, it's a lot of women.

And then they bring husbands along.

Yeah.

What average age do you transfer?

Do you transform from emo to melancholy?

I don't know.

Well, I think it is a teen-your emo, right?

I think you're in a 30s, you have to stop becoming that far?

Late 30s?

I think you get it.

Yeah, if you're a youthful 30s something.

I think you got to get out of that fight.

You're still 28, 29.

You got to grow up.

Really?

You can extend it.

You can still be emo.

But I think when you get into the late 30s, then you have to transition from emo to melancholy.

Yeah.

And then when you're in your 50s, just say, fuck it, I'm depressed.

What's my medication?

I don't know know what to do.

I'm chewing like a madman.

I look like a billy goat.

Do you not like going to the concerts with her?

I don't enjoy it now.

Because I have to be into the music.

I'm not one of these people that can just go see live music and be totally into it.

Like, I need to know the songs or,

but I mean, now I know.

Now I know.

Yeah.

And

it's like, it's not bad music, but it's just like, I wasn't raised on it.

I'm not like crazy for, like, you know, one or two shows are okay.

But like, now this is going to be, I think, my sixth show.

And she released it

every time.

Yeah, she didn't even ask me anymore.

Yeah.

Now she's not like, hey, they're playing here.

There, she actually said, Blue October is going to be at Englewood, where I didn't know where it was, and Philadelphia, which one's closer?

I said, I have no idea.

That was the end of the conversation.

And then it turned into, we're going to Englewood.

Yeah.

Now, now, do you, do people wear things to show how many shows they've been to or

Vanyards or anything?

I don't think so.

Why?

Is that what you do?

No, no, no.

I'm just wondering if, like, people try to show up each other when, like, oh, like, I'm a 10-shower and I'm a six-shower.

I think that there are people who

do believe they're bigger fans than the rest.

Those are the people that are like down in the front row that are like pressing up against the stage and shit, like those people.

But I don't know.

They're a very calm crowd.

Okay.

It's not like Rob Zombie where you would see people yelling and hooting and hollering and having a

great old time.

Is eye candy floating around?

Like emo eye candy or is it not even like that?

Not counting Mary Beth.

Yeah.

She's emo eye candy.

She's the emo eye candy.

It's not eye candy if it's yours.

I'm not even sometime in March.

It's a ways off.

At this point, does the band look out into the crowd and see you?

And like, what's up?

He has every time, except for once, when we went to the art center because we were too far back.

Okay.

But each time he's acknowledged me.

Well, that's not.

Could you get backstage?

Is it like...

I would like to have them on the pot at least so I can be like, guys, give us some of that money back.

I mean, really?

At least I don't have to go to the

best at all.

I want some of the money back that I purchased in tickets?

No, you can't do that.

But if they're on their pod, you can get the ad revenue.

Ads such as...

Sure.

Ads such as...

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I did also wonder, Walt, that

because I was watching

one of these

Unsolved Mystery type shows, and like, you know, people are constantly dying and coming back.

No, if I died, they're like, he flashed.

People are constantly dying and coming back.

Yeah, you know how, like, on Unsolved Mysteries, like, people die, and they're like, oh, and this is what I saw when I was.

Oh, yeah.

They pass over to the other side.

Right.

Yeah, I'm not talking about like three days later.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Sorry about that.

We watched that one where the guy flew 60 feet, landed headfirst into the cement, and then he was like, the doctor's like, he's dead.

And she prayed to Lazarus.

And he was like, she prayed like crazy.

And they said, this dude has no shot.

So I die.

They're like, he flatlined.

He was dead for like, say, three minutes.

Then I came back

like these people do.

Lazarus effect.

And I'm like, this is what I saw.

Oh, fuck.

Yeah.

I mean, you like to do that.

You want to hear?

You got so much content for a world.

Yeah.

Years we can milk that chicken.

Every time that something happens, you can be like, come on, make something up, something else.

You saw it.

So there's the people lose interest in that

particular era of TST where post-prize dead

and AD.

Bright dies at the end.

Like you come up with, oh, now I have psychic powers.

But I have visions.

Yeah.

But how believable is it?

Like, because a lot of times they're like, well, I saw the light at the end of the tunnel.

Well, it's because you're on an operating table and there's the light right above you.

You know that's what they say but like let's say I'm at the side of the road or something you know like how you you know when you were a fired fire

fireman yeah you know you would come upon these accidents and see people that were like you know dead clinging to life or dead yeah

you know if it's a situation like that where there is no light but i'm like hey here's what happened well they say you they see themselves from above they see everything that's going on right yeah they're watching

yeah yeah so wait you're saying you come back and you have

but like, what are you saying?

Well, I'm saying, I'm just like, look,

I don't want to tell you where I went, but I will.

I was in heaven.

You were in heaven?

Of course.

Of course.

Why didn't you want to tell us?

But then you did immediately.

I don't want to tell you.

Because I know you're going to be like, you made it to heaven?

I don't want to tell you.

What the fuck?

Like, you're not fucking with me?

I'm like, on anything.

I'll swear on anything.

Okay.

I'm not fucking around.

This was my experience.

I died.

There was a black tunnel.

I got to the end of the black tunnel, and then it was bright.

It was bright as hell.

And I did see people.

I saw Ralph Sorella there.

He made it too.

Awesome.

No, but

I saw a couple people that I never thought I would see again.

Yeah.

And then I kind of got sucked back.

I heard noises.

I heard voices.

Then some fucking stupid fireman's kissing me.

You know, giving me the kisses.

Oh, well, I mean, I would

believe you that you saw stuff.

I would wonder what really went on.

Was your brain

misfiring something?

Yes, something.

Something.

But

if you came back and you were like, are you walking the walk?

Are you like,

I now know there's a heaven?

I'm like, I got to walk the walk.

So you have to walk the walk.

Because I also saw from above.

I saw the alternative.

Yeah.

Nobody wants to.

Like the clouds parted, and you can see now.

Yeah.

All right.

You saw the circles of hell and you're like, I'm never, I can't go there.

Yeah.

So

what's walking in the walk?

What do you start with?

That's the first question I like to ask.

What's walking the walk?

I don't know.

I got to look to you.

You walk the walk.

So, I mean, you didn't get the information before you left.

I couldn't.

It was half-assed.

I was fucking.

Like, you didn't fucking stop this.

Like, what do I got to do when I go back?

I got distracted.

Well, he's over there already doing what he always does.

That's true, too.

Yeah, just keep doing what you're doing.

There's no outer all in heaven.

Yeah, if I made it, yeah, if I made it to heaven, that's a good point.

But, like, are you, are you just like, you're going to church every week?

Are you like, what is the change in you?

Because if you don't change anything, if I don't, if you know that heaven exists and you don't change anything, then I'm like, he's fucking with us.

His brain was misfiring as shit because there's no fucking way.

If you knew for a fact that there was a heaven and a hell to go to, that you wouldn't do everything you could to get there.

Yeah, because what if the glimpse was showing you what you need to do?

You know, like, yeah.

Yeah.

There is something that you can strive for.

Yeah.

So then, I mean, what would you, like, he starts going to church every week?

He starts going every day.

Every day.

Every day, every morning going to church.

I'm like an old Italian woman going and praying.

Yeah, it's part of your morning routine.

You go to church, you light a candle, you say some prayers.

If it was that much of a stark change in his behavior,

I would definitely lean towards, you know, he definitely saw something.

Yeah.

Either that or new medication.

Oh, yeah.

It's always new medication.

He starts saying, like, have a blessed day when he, you know, when he he leaves.

He wants the pod to be totally like.

Now and now, guys.

His famous Christmas pod was 2016.

He brings back people to apologize for all the

jokes that you made throughout the years to certain people

you bring back and you repent and

you legitimately cry in front of them for all the time.

Right.

I'm like, I need your forgiveness.

I need it.

You begged for it.

I'm begging for it.

I'll wash your feet with my hair.

I just got a haircut with my beard.

I'll wash your feet with my tears out of regret for how I slandered you and made fun of you

that you slept together.

Which is a single thing.

I still want to know.

I'm sorry.

Not for me to judge you.

That's all.

Yeah, we had a discussion.

We're not going to be seeing you guys.

Don't you visit policy as a gay joke?

I wonder now that you mentioned that, what would it take?

Like, what kind of experience, because I wouldn't do it.

Like, what kind of experience would I have to have to go back and be like, I'm going to apologize to everybody I made fun of or jokes that I made?

Because that's all in good fun, right?

Yeah, but if you

flatlined

and St.

Peter, you saw him and is like, look, we're sending you back because you're not going to make it.

And we're going to show you a peak of hell.

And they pull back and you see, you know, God's torture chamber down there.

You're like,

and he's like, you have to change everything.

We got an apology tour.

Yeah.

You have to do it.

Oh, no, I got to do it.

You have the ability.

Yeah.

And he's like, all right, we're giving you one more shot at this, Brian.

It's literally like Ebenezer Scrooge.

Like, you have to change

everything.

Without saying why, but could you say who's the first person on that apology list?

First person on the apology?

The one that's the most egregious.

You don't have to say why or who, but like

you're in your head.

Well, I'm trying to think of who I've wronged so awfully.

Maybe like ex-girlfriends.

Yeah.

Yeah, maybe like, even though, I mean, even them though, I wouldn't be like, oh, well, they're so important to me that they got to be first.

I think I might go to like, even unaware of things that I've done.

Like, like, do they show me?

It's so showy.

It's, they're not so important to me.

To me.

Well, he's saying for the first thing.

For the very first one.

He's saying for the very first one.

Well, it's not like it's a prize.

You know, you were my first apology.

apology, but he's still sitting here through a land.

He's got a lot of work to do.

But look, he's still trying.

He's still working out the apology door.

Yeah, that's a rough one because I can't point to any one person that I'm like, I've been so horrible to this person that I feel like I should turn around and apologize.

Maybe, like, Pam and Edgar for doing stuff when I was younger.

But even that, it's like, that's just kids shit, right?

Yeah.

Maybe.

Why aren't they telling me?

Why do I got to figure it out?

They're like, you're wrong.

This one, this one.

Is it my angels?

Yeah, the angels and St.

Peter.

They talk.

I'm like, God,

that's their job is to be vague.

So you figure it out.

Oh, really?

So they're like psychologists then.

Like psychologists, you never went to psychologists, right?

No.

Okay, so when you go to a psychologist, like they don't tell you shit.

They sit there and listen to you and they're like, well, did you think about this?

Like, they'll throw in like little things that you have to do all the work.

Yeah, I would be a little annoyed if I'm paying them this much money that they spend $100 an hour to be like you do.

I have expectations that they would have a list of options like C or D yeah you know that I have to come up with it it's self-discovery that's what makes it more yeah like even though they know even though they they know the answer they're still gonna make you figure it out well there's something right because being told something isn't the same as coming to your own if you think it's your idea yeah yeah you think it's your idea then it's more so they're they tricked me into it yes they're a psychologist are they doctors oh yeah okay so when you go any other doctor literally spells it out in black and white this is what you got to do this is what you got to avoid.

These motherfuckers are just like, I don't know,

maybe,

maybe not.

Who knows?

Yeah,

what good was that degree then, or whatever, that doctorate, if you just can't tell me?

I think the mind is more complicated than the body is to fit.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

Like, oh, my shoulder hurts.

I can give you an aspirin, and that'll make your shoulder stop hurting an organ.

But when your brain hurts, see, there's a lot more to it.

Yeah,

I agree with Gedim on that one.

I think

everybody's brain issues, issues, everybody's mental trauma is different.

I mean, I'm sure it's all the same in the end, but

some people are smart.

Like anybody's shoulders works the same way, right?

For the most part.

And if there's a problem with one shoulder, you're going to see that problem on your shoulders.

That's a good point.

The brain is different.

Who fucking got this damage as a child who didn't?

Who's, you know.

I think it's like

you need them to poke and work around.

Like, oh, I got a non-productive cough and a fever and a headache.

Okay, you probably got the cold.

What is a non-productive non-productive cough?

The dry cough where you feel like something's going to come.

You're going to flam up.

Okay.

But yeah, it doesn't come out yet.

I never heard that before.

I thought he was just describing his current state.

Still teaching you.

Every fucking day.

So

you're back on the getem wagon because last week you were trading him in for Jimmy the hair guy.

Yeah, you know what?

I figured it out.

I talked to my wife about it.

She was like, you constantly talk about giving him tough love, but have you ever given him real love?

And I was like, oh, oh, wow.

And I was like, no.

And then I just figured it it out and then i was like did she's like a psychologist

you did walter you did

so she's like give him some real love and i was like all right so that's that's what i've little by little i've been doing it well what was the week first thing was uh you know last night i i i was kind of annoyed but i i held my tongue and i just wrote a very nice text being like next time we do something we'll just or approach it in a different way and it'll be better Wow, that is pretty nephew.

As opposed to me, like, you fucked it up, motherfucker.

Mother Ducker, as I constantly have to rewrite it, my phone will not write motherfucker.

I think

we came up with an amicable solution that should solve any further problems.

At the end of the day, you know,

anytime I tell you, or when I say, like, you got to change your ways, it comes from a place of

I don't want to

lose you or have you out of our lives.

So, and my, or I shouldn't even speak for my life, you know, I'm kind of like doing it right there where I was like, our lives.

No, my life.

No, no.

I don't want to see you go into an early grave when you don't have to.

And you're so smart and you're so valuable.

I, I kind of would be like,

it'd be a tragedy for you to not address

and try to make some change.

And I know change is hard.

I know it's so hard.

It's hard for everybody.

It's hard for me too.

And if you can just find that fucking inner intestinal fortitude just to make a small change here and there, and before you know it, the big ones will fucking

happen, hopefully, right in front of you, right?

I mean, start with little ones, and sooner or later, before you know it, some of the big ones may not feel so big anymore then.

Baby steps.

It's wise advice.

But don't, yeah, but don't like minimize it and be like baby steps and then be like, okay, I got baby steps in front of me.

I'm cool with baby steps.

And then

you got to do the baby steps and you got to start doing them now, though.

No more alcohol.

Every other day.

Every other day?

Okay, no alcohol-free weekends.

Okay, one day a month, no alcohol.

Well, I was going to do a dry January again.

Were you?

Yeah.

All right.

Let's try it.

Yeah.

Who knows?

It might go into dry February.

It lasted like five, six months last time.

Oh, yeah.

When you've got the hallucinations, I'll call me.

I'll come down.

I'll hold your hand.

I'll put a damp washcloth on your forehead.

Make star skin hunch all over again.

Are you seeing men come through the wall

holding a gigantic barrel of beer?

See offense again, Walter.

This time.

So that's it.

So that's love.

Yeah, that's what she said.

She says, don't give him.

You always say you're going to do tough love and you go, but tough love isn't working.

So why do you keep doing tough love?

How many days has this been?

Two?

Two?

Two.

I get him.

Have you?

Is this the first time you've got a fifth?

He was off yesterday.

Oh, all right.

He was taking the day off.

It was real easy.

I loved him from afar.

And Monday he was filming.

But he did give me a jumpstart Monday night.

So I did give him, I came back, I gave him a jumpstart in his car.

Didn't complain once, just sat in the car.

You didn't even get out of the car when he did it?

No, what do I need to do?

What am I going to do?

I don't know.

I supplied the hood.

He popped the hood.

He popped up the hood.

I was like, you good?

All right.

Good night.

See you later.

I don't know.

You get out, you chat a little bit.

I'd seen him for a couple hours before I did it.

It was enough chatting.

Yeah.

But that's what I think maybe he needs.

Yeah.

Maybe try that

as opposed to tough love.

Because tough love don't work either.

Okay.

So soft love, forget him.

Yeah.

Maybe he'll just, hopefully he just won't like bask in it.

And just suck it off.

Bask in it.

If that's what it takes, bask in it.

Baskin it a little.

A little bit.

Soak it in.

Bathe in it.

Absorb it.

Come on in.

The water's fine.

Spread it all over your face.

This is what it actually feels like.

Clean yourself with my love.

Feel my love all over you.

Warm blank.

Swallow it.

Swallow it.

Swallow that love, motherfucker.

Taste my love.

Is it salty?

Or is it sweet?

You need it.

You want it so fucking bad.

I don't think this is what that meant.

God.

Anything else?

I know Q's got to run.

Yeah, Q's got to run.

You got to go.

I got tonight.

I'm shooting some promo thing for some charity thing in Manhattan, but then Jiggy is

shooting a stand-up special tonight in Manhattan.

Oh, okay.

And Joe Gatto's directing it.

So I'm going to go and check that out.

Going to go support the boys in their endeavor and, you know, be home in time to watch AAW around 9.30 or so.

Those changes I was talking about before.

Showing the real love.

Yeah, yeah.

Getting out there, show some face and whatnot.

But so unfortunately, yeah, I got to run today.

Okay.

I'm sorry.

Any updates on Christmas?

I think we're going to probably release it

maybe.

Maybe 23rd, maybe 24th, Christmas Eve.

That'd be nice release.

What a great gift.

Everybody could sit around the fire and listen to it.

All right.

So we're looking at December 24th.

That's the present they can open up the night before.

There you go.

Nice.

Get them.

We love you, get them.

We love you, get them.

Love you, too.

Tell them, Steve, Dave.