#451: I Buy Comics

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Nickname is Bunny, right?

Do you like that nickname?

Mama will call me

nickname Boo.

Your mom calls you Boo, I know.

And what do you call yourself?

Um, Snake.

That's right, Snake's Weedmire.

Uh, so this week we're doing something a little different on Telen Steve, Dave.

Sage, we're, um, or snakes, sorry.

What we're doing is we're offering up an episode that would normally appear on Patreon.

Do you know what Patreon is?

No.

Patreon is what keeps you in hamburgers.

It's kind of Dada's work.

I mean, it is Dada's work.

It's all he ever does.

Patreon stuff.

Like when we make the videos and stuff like this, recordings, when we do the audio, that's all Patreon.

So what we're doing this week is just showing people an episode that

we do.

It's called I Buy Comics.

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good.

All you're thinking about is that party you're going to tonight, right?

My fence

at a party.

Your friends are going to be at the party?

Yeah.

And then what?

Pizza party and pool party?

Mm-hmm.

It's going to be good, right?

So I said,

My fence in Pia.

All your friends will be there.

You're right.

So, everybody, listen up.

And if you want to hear more stuff like this,

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Why would I?

wait hold on maybe i do have it in front of me look you can go to patreon.com slash t-e-s-d and check it out i don't want to waste your time by reading all this stuff but it's good stuff this week there's a whoa i mean this month there's a hawaiian shirt a tell him steve dave hawaiian shirt you would wear that to school wouldn't you yeah

you'd be proud proud to wear it So, all right, well, we're not going to take up everyone's time.

We're going to

sign off right here.

Let everybody listen to an episode of I Buy Comics with me,

your buddy Walt, and your other buddy Q.

All right.

Let's listen in.

Hello, everybody, and welcome to I Buy Comics, the Tell'em Steve Dave comic book book focus podcast.

I'm Brian Quinn with me as Walt Flanagan and Brian Johnson.

Comics expert.

There you go.

Comic author.

Yeah.

Star of the show, Comic Book Men.

I have a right to be at this table.

So far, it has shown amazing restraint in these episodes.

Oh,

how glad I am to hear you boast like that.

You will not believe what is in store for this episode.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Because I'm going to put your

writing skills, your memory to the test today, because we have a comic book quiz on this episode.

And

your portion of the quiz, Q, is based on general comic book knowledge.

Okay.

Brian's portion of the quiz is based only upon the comic books he's written.

I bet you he does better.

If I recall the timeframe that Brian was writing these comics, his mind was

some of them.

Only some of them.

Cloudy?

Cryptozoic Man, I'd be real surprised if I remember.

It was called Cryptozoic Man, right?

Yeah, so today's episode, Q, I thought we wouldn't focus on a series like we have in the past, but rather just have a real fun kind of like

rag tag, you know, fly by the seat of our pants kind of thing.

Let's talk comics.

Let's just rap comics.

And I thought we'd kick it off before we get into the competition portion of the episode.

I have 10 questions every comic book fan should ask themselves before they die.

Oh,

nice.

I like this.

All right.

This is great.

So, I'm going to ask you some questions.

You tell me what you think.

I'll tell you what my answers are.

And if Brian can, if he feels he can weigh in, and he has anything pithy to offer about these questions.

Yet respectful.

All right, Q, question number one: Yes, what is the most money you've ever spent on a comic book?

Just a single issue?

Just a single issue.

Hmm.

I bought,

I think maybe like $20.

$20?

That's it?

Yeah.

Back issue?

You know what I like to do?

I like to go.

You know

the grading, the CGC?

Yeah.

I like to buy

like 9.9 of shitty comics that nobody cares about but me.

I did not know this.

You have a collection of CGC 9.9?

And it's like Kyle Rayner's first appearance.

Like things that will never, nobody will ever give a shit about.

Oh, wow.

So you're going for the real diamonds in the rough.

I go for my heart.

Okay.

Over.

Maybe, you know what, now that I mentioned it, I do have the ghost, the first appearance of Ghost Rider.

I might have paid.

Marvel Spotlight 5?

Yeah.

Well, no, the one where he, is that the cover?

The Mike Plug one?

Yeah, yeah, that's it.

I have that.

Yeah, Marvel Spotlight 5.

You have a 9-point.

No, no, no.

That's like, that's a.

The 9-point, the 9, the nine-tiler boy are the shitty ones that nobody cares about.

Okay.

That one I have.

I'll look it up, but I have that.

Oh, my God.

I can't, I cannot believe this.

I'm about to crush you on how much I've paid for one single comic book.

I mean, maybe something else will come to me, but that's about it.

I spent $250 on one single comic book.

Ooh, which one?

Elseworld's 80-page giant.

It was the recalled comic book from early 2000s.

Okay.

And they pulped it, they said, and they were never going to release it because Super Baby was in a microwave.

Oh, right.

I forgot about that.

You have it.

I went and bought it because it was only released in England.

Some copies got out to the England Distribution Center.

Oh, okay.

So I could only buy it overseas.

I didn't even have an eBay account.

I had to go to my mom's house because I didn't even have a computer.

Wow.

She had a computer, and we signed up for eBay.

And I didn't even know what I was going to do.

My mom was like, so you have to pay for it.

They're not going to send you the comic.

She's like, they're never going to send you this comic book.

You're going to get snookered at $250.

You're a dupe.

Look at this pigeon cooing.

But I was like, Ma, I got to take a chance.

I need comic book in my collection.

Yeah.

So I sent a money order, a postal international money order, for $250.

And like, I think maybe eight months later, with air mail, I got Elseworld's 80-page giant.

Jesus, and you still have it today.

No, I actually went and sold it for probably 50 bucks.

Why?

It went down in value so much because they reprinted the microwave story.

Oh, so it wasn't rare.

Yeah.

The book didn't hold its value, and I got, you know, it's one of those ones where I took it on the chin.

It's a speculator's market, man.

Did you're, at what point were you like, they're not going to send it?

Like, eight months is a lot.

Oh, yeah, I'm probably exaggerating, but oh, yeah, there was no tracking for it.

Right.

But eventually it did show up, though.

It was one of my very first eBay purchases.

Oh, yeah, that's a good story.

I am going to send you a list of the comics that I have.

The CGC?

You're going to be like, can you just take a picture of it?

I'll take a picture of it.

Yeah.

Yeah, because we'll use it.

Oh, yeah, put it online.

You're going to be like, this is funny.

This guy's got to be fucking with us.

Question two.

Yes.

Do you you remember your first wall book the first what wall book the book that was on a wall in a comic book store you walked in you're like i'm gonna buy that off the wall i did i bought it from you you i bought it from you what was it it was the uh the danger girl hologram the the foil chromium cover the chromium cover i bought it from you from you

that was some time ago that was

96 yeah 97 right 98 maybe yeah well maybe i bought it from you no no it was you because it was it was no it was still in the old shop.

Yeah, it was in the old shop, yeah.

Those chromium covers, they were going for a hundred bucks at one point.

Yeah, what do they go for now?

Not much.

Not a hundred.

I think I paid like $25 for it or whatnot.

Can you still find valuable books in this market?

I'm not talking about golden age.

I'm talking about like current shit, like the way it goes.

Right,

are getting tinier and tinier during the pandemic.

So you will see some books skyrocket in value for quick windows, though.

Those windows open and close so fast on current books.

And DC, now's the time.

DC's fucking bloodbath over there.

Yeah.

My first wall book, probably New Teen Titans number one, George Perez-Marvel in 1980.

I wanted to go back and buy all the new Teen Titans because I started with issue 13, and I went to a comic book store upstate, New Jersey, and that was my first wall book.

What'd you pay for that?

$10?

That's all right.

Yeah, $10.

All right.

The first time you speculated and purchased multiple copies of the same issue.

That would be Death of Soup, man.

Really?

I think I bought three copies of it.

Three copies.

Yeah.

Still got those.

Whatever Jim Hanley's allowed us.

I still have them.

Yeah, well, one I opened.

That's why they bagged them.

So you had to buy one to not open.

I think I went to Jim Hanley's.

They said there was like a limit of three and like every other fucking idiot.

I was like, I'll take them.

The first time I speculated and purchased multiple copies was a book called The Mega Men, number one.

Omega Men.

Omega Men.

It was Keith Giffen,

early Baxter direct sales only comic book, brought three copies.

That book, I looked it up today, that book's value is $1.

It's less than cover price.

Yeah.

Okay.

Keith Giffen, man.

Name a smell that's better than pulp.

Better than pulp.

You just mean when you say that, the smell of comics, just that the smell of pulp.

To me, there's nothing like the smell of pulp.

Is there something better that smells better than that?

I mean, smell my body lotion right now, and I would say

I do love the smell of pulp.

I love the smell of pussy.

Oh!

Nice.

That's right.

Then I pulp that pussy.

The older I get, though, the more pulp starts winning.

Like, I'm interested in a different type of pea these days.

Yeah, because maybe it smells like grandma's attic.

Yeah.

Nothing smells sweeter.

Maybe pussy does since grandma's attic has.

Pussy does.

My grandfather used to molest me in the attic, so pussy definitely smells sweeter.

All right.

If you owned a comic book company, what licensed character or franchise would you pursue?

You're going to go after a license.

Oh, we're talking fantasy world here?

Yeah.

You don't, yeah.

If you owned a comic book company, what licensed character or franchise would you pursue?

And nothing is off the market.

You have everything's up for grabs.

Which one are you going for?

I think I would be interested in, look, obviously my favorite Subhero Superman, but

I think I would be interested in getting like

disused characters.

No, no, I mean, like, I'm talking about like, you know, a licensed friend.

Dude, do you want to go out of fucking business?

Yeah, I'm saying you could just like tag, you could grab Spider-Man.

You just said nothing was off the table.

I thought you understood what I meant when the question.

The question is, like, you know, a licensed franchise, like the Ghostbusters is licensed.

Okay, gotcha.

Okay, now I understand.

My little pony.

You know, these are things that are like licensed properties that you're going after.

Oh, that's okay.

That's good.

Huh.

Oh, that's a good question.

That's a good one.

Got to answer it before you die.

I don't know.

It's going to take me a second to think about that, I think.

Because everything's been licensed.

Like, yeah, but that's how you can take, let's say, you want to do your own version of the Ghostbusters.

You can do the Ghostbusters.

You want Star Trek, you want Star Wars, Terminator, Predator, Aliens.

What are you going for?

My Little Pony?

I would maybe.

Yeah, you're a brony.

No, I'm not a brony.

You know what I'd love to do?

I'd like to do stories in the Godfather universe.

Yeah, like a mobster comic.

That's pretty cool.

About Clemenzo or something like that.

Like when they were young.

Look a brazzi.

Yeah, you know, and they were coming up in Little Italy and stuff like that.

I think you might be able to do like a

cool type of fucking crime story in that.

That'd be fun.

That would be cool.

Would right?

I don't know if it would sell that well.

Well, that's, I mean, what would be

moirish, maybe?

I think you'd have to really go for it.

Like, do it like a Hellblazer moirish look.

Do they have superpowers, these hitmen?

These floppy guys?

And I think, you know, do something crazy with them and give them like radioactive.

No, I think it would be interesting to keep it.

I would also probably like to do it, do I would probably do Friday 13th.

I think I could do some Jason, some good Jason stuff.

I wrote a whole Jason movie script once.

You You can adapt it now.

Yeah.

If you get the property, if you go after...

What's it, New Line?

Now, they're all in fucking lawsuits now.

I think New Line's out of business.

Well, they're owned by Warner Brothers.

It's all between Paramount and Warner Brothers.

They're having a lawsuit right now, so that's why you don't see a new Jason one.

Godfather.

Oh, I think that there's, like, I would, if they told me that Netflix was like doing a series about like...

the flashback, not the Michael Corey loan.

I'm talking about

the veto and stuff like that.

I think there's tons of shit there that you could do some cool crime stories.

So then, number three is not considered canon.

You can take it out of there.

When was the last time you watched three?

No, I watched one and two with Mary Beth.

I was like, there's no point in watching three.

I would be honest with you.

I've watched three

recently, and it's not as bad as you remember.

Really?

But it is still not good.

It's not one and two.

They write away Michael's hair.

You just keep the comb over it.

He looks so weird.

You can't separate him from Pacino Pacino in the third one.

Um, and not I forgot about the hairdo.

And then you're like, all right, well, Tom Hagan's not in the movie.

And then, and then the actor who wanted who was Clemenza, like, they just rewrote the parts that were those characters and just gave them to other people.

And you're like, it doesn't work.

But there you go.

What do you think of that?

Okay.

Number six, you're the editor-in-chief at DC.

What, did you answer?

Oh, did I answer?

No,

I'm yeah, I mean, I'd probably go with something like maybe Planet of the Apes.

Yeah, that'd be good.

Yeah, I'm a big apes guy still.

I still think there's a lot of potential in the apes franchise.

Yeah, I'm probably going to go Planet of the Apes.

That's a good one.

But you're the editor-in-chief at DC, and you are greenlighting another crisis.

You have to decide on a method of suicide.

What character are you killing to maximize profits and

publicity?

I tell you right now,

I hate Barry Allen.

I would kill him again.

Kill him Flash again.

Him again.

So Barry again gets knocked off again.

Shut this fucking guy out of that.

That's the flash that

took a bullet in the first card.

I know, and they never should have brought him back.

It's a lame-ass character.

I would fucking kill him again.

You wouldn't think that maybe Superman would maximize publicity and profits, though?

No, because that wouldn't stick.

I wish Barry Allen would stick.

Okay.

I say Harley Quinn, too, right?

Like, would people like to see her die?

That would be another one.

Yeah, Harley Quinn would work, too.

The outrage that you're killing a woman character and a female.

Silver love, too.

Yeah.

all-time favorite superhero costume

look man i just i love superman

old school yeah spider-man spider it's it's between for me it's superman and spider-man okay yeah

the worst all-time cover gimmick you know like in the 90s see here's the here's the problem i love those gimmicks

i fuck some of them are so bad give me a hologram give me an overpriced embossed give me a chromium give it to me i love it i i was having this conversation the other day with someone i was like i 90s were like my fucking hooks-in decade of reading comics like a maniac.

That's when it started.

Late 80s.

And so all that shit that ruined the industry,

I love.

I'll take it all.

Oh, but you even like the poly bag with a trading card?

That's bullshit.

I'll give you that.

That was the one.

Or the scratch and sniff.

No, I love that.

You love that.

To me, I'm like, that's so lame.

I'm like, it's,

it's bad in a good way for me.

Die cut cover.

Oh, I love a a die-cut cover.

Oh, what I would do for a die-I would give.

Remember the Robin 2?

They just put those fucking square holograms.

They didn't even look good.

They just found ways to put rectangle holograms on the cover.

Like, it looks like shit.

And they convince people to buy 26 copies of them.

They look of the same issue.

Fucking terrible, but I love them.

I do.

I love them.

The best character to ever come about due to a fad.

So, I mean, I'll throw some examples of fad characters:

Dazzler, disco craze.

Yeah.

Power Man, kind of the Black Exploitation.

Sure.

Black Lightning, again, another Black Exploitation.

Shang-Chi and Iron Fist, the Kung Fu craze of the 70s.

Son of Satan, Ghost Rider, the Exorcist craze.

Well, if it's Ghost Rider, then it's Ghost Rider.

Oh, you know what?

The Punisher would count on that, too.

The Punisher in there because the Death Wish craze.

Yeah, I would say Punisher.

Punisher's the best character to ever come about from a fad, in your opinion.

In my opinion, yeah.

That's a pretty strong choice.

I'm a big Shang-Chi fan, though.

I love those Kung Fu characters.

Yeah, they're both valid.

Do you feel that the comic book industry has kind of like, you know, we're better than creating characters based off fads?

Because they don't do it anymore.

Well, they are.

They create the fads now.

So it's kind of hard, right?

No, I'm talking about like they don't create a character based upon a fad in another medium.

Oh, like vibe.

They don't bring out breakdancing superheroes.

They seem to have been like, we're better than that now.

We don't do fad characters.

I think something's lost.

I do.

Don't you feel like they should be like.

And this is why they really fucking social media man?

Oh, they well, they tried with Snowflake and fucking Safe Space, and it was such a flop, and they're like, This is terrible.

But you know, Giffin, speaking of Giffin, you brought him up before.

He created Lobo

to just be like, he created Lobo to be like, fuck you, this sucks.

He hates Lobo.

He was like, this is everything wrong with comics today.

And everybody was like, this is awesome.

It's fucking Lobo.

So maybe they should get back to doing fad comics.

And the final question in in our

10 questions every comic book fan must ask themselves before they die.

The best superpower to have in the sack.

In the sack.

I'm going to go first.

I think this is an obvious answer.

Which is it?

I think it's

whatever.

Lesgate it, man.

Yeah, Mr.

Fantastic.

I thought you meant like invisibility.

So they were in there.

I would say.

Would you abuse it?

In a good way.

Yeah, nobody would would be complaining.

Yeah.

What's the bad way that you could do it?

That's like I shape myself to look like your husband, and you don't know it's not me.

Like, that's the bad way.

You know?

Like, I leave out the back door, and the husband comes in the front door, and she's like, that was great.

And he's like, what was great?

No.

I would be up front.

I'd be like, look, this is the power I have.

I was like, you want to fuck?

Who you want to fuck?

Abraham Lincoln.

Boom.

So I had everything.

Here you go, baby.

Abraham Lincoln.

Guess what?

This Abraham Lincoln has two dicks.

It would be amazing.

I would love it.

How about four score dicks?

I'd be like, look, I'm a pirate, but my pegling is a dick.

What would we think?

It's got to be.

It's got to be a lot.

I mean, it's got to be the power of elasticity.

Yeah.

Right?

I mean, it's, I mean, as a boy.

What else is useful?

I couldn't think of one.

Maybe like, maybe some heat, like, you know, you're.

I'm not giving a massage here.

I'm trying to fuck, you know?

Yeah,

yeah, I mean, the other powers, like, super strength, that's not really going to help you.

No, no, nope.

Just making that big dick.

Yeah, I guess that's it.

That's pretty much it.

All right.

So now.

Which, if you think about it that way, if a big dick is a superpower, then superheroes do walk amongst us.

That's true.

Yeah.

I don't consider it a superpower.

Yeah.

Guys with big dicks do.

Send their girlfriend too.

I'll ask the next time I meet one.

Bunny, you want to talk about underwear?

Yeah.

All right, let's talk about it.

You know meundis, right?

You like daddy's meundis.

Sometimes I give them to you, like the ladybug ones.

Yeah.

Or pizza otherwise.

You like the pizza ones too?

Yeah.

I think we're going to get you your own subscription so you can have all your own meundis.

What do you think of that?

Oh, yeah.

No more cotton underpants from target they feel like burlap all itchy and scratchy right you like soft nice and soft yeah and that's what mendies are

they're all about softness so serious that they scoured the world for the softest fabric known to man and that's called either micromodal or micromodal i'm not sure which one we've been doing this for years i'm still not sure So you got, we're going to start, we're going to start you up on a Myundi's membership.

So every month, what's going to happen is they're going to send you new underwear in the mail.

And you throw the old ones out and you keep the new ones coming in nice and smooth with cool designs, right?

Yeah.

I know you love it.

So we're going to keep your underwear drawer stocked with a Myundi's membership, a subscription that sends new pairs right to your door, plus gets site-wide savings and exclusive sale.

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You know what that means?

No, I don't.

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What do you think of that?

Oh, this is cool.

It is very cool.

It's pretty sweet.

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I just can, I mean, I, because you know what it is?

I've always sat there and fantasized that, like, when Tom Brady goes home, he's Jim Halpert.

He treats Giselle like Pam.

And I just, I don't know, I don't know why, but I've always had that, like, I've always had that fantasy in my head.

You think Jim yells at Pam in the office world?

that i've always had that i'm sorry i just missed that

any number of things one can fantasize about

tom brady's personal life

i always i would just like to think because i'm such a an admirer and fan of tom brady

i bet you though he is not his real personality may not be

as cool as Jim Halpert, but I would like to think at the end of the day when that helmet comes off, his bangs come down like Jim, and he's fucking doing pranks, and he's professing his

selling paper.

After he gets that windy to Super Bowl, he's like, hey, would you guys like some triple bond

tanks?

I would like to think he's professing love to Giselle in beautiful, romantic ways, and just playing pranks on like fucking Belichick

and Gronk.

That's in my head, that's my fantasy.

I know what you guys fantasize about, but Pam Pams.

Now, that's quality content.

All right, let's get back to the show.

All right, so now we're ready for our comic book challenge portion of the episode.

Oh, I love this.

You versus Bry, and you each will play for a listener.

Okay.

And up for grabs tonight

is a page of the comic book we worked on, Metro.

All right.

Well, you got some real deal fucking prizes here.

We'll sign that for, and if you win tonight's

quiz, this is the beginning of issue two.

Your listener is going to get a autographed page of original art from Metro.

Bri, if you win,

your listener is going to get a page of autographed art from War of the Undead.

Nice.

Wow.

That's a good one.

These are fucking serious prizes.

Right?

And so, Bri, you are playing for Sandy Morgan.

Sandy Morgan.

I recognize that name.

Do you?

I think she's on Twitter, yeah.

Okay.

And Q, you are playing for Lisa Jury.

All right, Lisa, I got you.

All right.

So.

Sandy, you know my record.

These are my favorite characters, too.

Nice.

All right.

And like I said, Bri, you will be only quizzed upon the three books you wrote, Carney,

War of the Undead, and Cryptozoic Man.

Okay.

You don't need to know anything else about comic books other than those three books.

The only one I've read recently is War of the Undead.

Stumbled across it.

Oh, it's awesome.

But, Q, you will have all of comic book history to have to answer.

Okay.

All right.

So we go with

Q, you're up first.

You will have to put three comics in order of the most valuable to least valuable.

Okay.

I'm going to give you these three titles, and you tell me which is the most valuable, which is the second most valuable, and which is the least most valuable.

Okay.

New Mutants 98.

Okay.

Which is, do you know what that issue is?

No.

The first appearance of Deadpool.

Okay, gotcha.

Amazing Spider-Man 300.

That's Black Venom.

It's the first appearance of

the first full appearance of Venom.

Okay.

And Batman 428, the death of Robin.

All right, so which one gets the top slot, in your opinion?

And this is all based on, we looked this up on Overstreet Price Guide.

This year's Overstreet Price Guide is where we got this information from.

I don't want anybody calling to question

our ethics here.

I would say,

okay,

I think it's Venom.

Amazing Spider-Man 300 is going to be you're putting that one in the top spot.

Yes.

Do you want the reasoning?

Yeah, go ahead.

Okay.

Because here's the thing.

The Batman one was an event, right?

Everybody knew it.

Everybody knew it was coming.

So to me, that makes it the least valuable because everybody knew.

Deadpool did come out of nowhere,

but a bit saturated as of late.

Deadpool's everywhere.

Venom seems to be coming into some new level of popularity they never had before.

Okay, did you see the Venom movie?

Yeah, did you like it?

I didn't, I liked parts of it.

Some of it were really what they got right, they really got right.

What they did not get right, they really did not get right.

Um, so that's why I think Venom Deadpool.

So, you want Amazing Spider-Man 300 in the most valuable slot?

I will tell you that is correct.

Oh, great.

Which one is that?

Number two,

Amazing Spider-Man 300 is the most valuable of the three I mentioned.

The number two book you have is New Mutants 98, First Appearance of Deadpool.

I will tell you that is the second most valuable comic.

Really?

So I got it.

And obviously, then you also get Batman 428 is the least valuable.

Those totals, Amazing Spider-Man 300, $375.

Okay.

New Mutants 98, First Appearance at Deadpool, $315.

And Batman 428, The Death of Jason Todd Robin, $45.

Absolutely.

So the second one was worth the most.

The first one was worth second most.

Third one was worth out of these.

Yeah.

Look at that shit.

You got it?

Oh, you got it right, too.

You got it right, too.

Comic book man for Chris's sakes.

Watch me get this one wrong.

Okay, you know.

Who inked Cryptozoic Man?

Cryptozoic Man.

Wayne Jensen.

Jensen?

Oh, no.

He colored it.

Oh, but that Chris Ivey inked it.

So cute, you're up one night.

I have no idea who that that is.

Yeah, Chris Ivey inked it.

He's the guy that lays the ink down, the indie ink.

Okay.

Colorist puts the colors in on a computer.

Gotcha.

Okay.

Okay.

Wayne Janssen.

Q, we're going to have another

most valuable to least valuable.

Okay.

Hulk 340.

Is that Wolverine?

That's the Wolverine Top McFarlane cover.

Okay.

Amazing Spider-Man 238 with tattoos insert.

That's the first first appearance of Hobgoblin.

Okay.

And Dark Knight Returns first printing.

Frank Miller's epic

industry changing Dark Knight Returns.

Okay, so.

Would you just steal my pen?

Yeah.

All right, so it's

writing down my answers.

So it's so I can see if I get it.

Well, I think the Frank Miller's in the number one.

I think the Frank Miller's in the number one, okay.

And then

walk me through the middle.

And the Hulk 340 with the

classic

Wolverine cover with the claws.

Wait, so it's not the first appearance of Wolverine.

It's the first, it's the one right after that.

It's that cover, you know, where he's got the claws and you can see

the Hulk's reflection in his claws.

Yep.

Famous, famous cover.

Yes.

Seen it a million times.

Yeah, he's got the hair.

He's doing this shit.

But that's not the first appearance of Wolverine.

So I'm going to say that that's two.

So Dark, so Dark Knight is the most valuable.

But the tattoos thing's throwing me off.

First appearance Hobgoblin.

Who gives a fuck about Hobgoblin?

But the tattoo thing

makes it interesting.

Yeah, the tattoos insert.

This was an insert that

was put into the comics that had the tattoos that you could remove.

Kids would remove, and they would put their tattoos on.

I still don't think it beats Wolverine.

Okay.

So I'm going to say that's the third.

Okay, so what's coming in at number one?

That's Dark Knight.

Okay, and what's coming in at number two?

Hulk?

Yep.

And Amazing Spider-Man 238.

Okay, I will tell you this.

Hulk 340 is the least valuable.

Really?

Coming in at $80.

Wow.

Amazing Spider-Man 238 with tattoos is the most valuable at coming in at $170.

And Dark Knight Returns was $125 for

a while.

So you didn't get that right.

I didn't.

All right, Bri.

But I understand why I didn't.

Now you

have an Overstreet Challenge.

When you get these three comics, you have to place them in order of most valuable to least.

Carney, number one, or The Undead, number one, or Cryptozoic Man, number one, which is the most valuable comic you've written.

Hmm.

I know Cryptozoic Man shot up at first.

Remember, like, somebody bought one CGC for like a thousand bucks?

It was crazy.

Holy shit.

Yeah, it was crazy.

But we're going by regular prices, right?

Not that those.

What's it worth in 2020?

Right.

The Ober Street.

It was Carney number two that was hard to get.

Yeah, Yeah, I know.

I'm going to say Cryptozoic Man, Carney, and then War of the Undead.

So Cryptozoic Man, Carney, and then War of the Undead, and then War of the Undead being the least valuable comic.

Least valuable.

Well, I will tell you this.

Cryptozoic Man, number one, is the most valuable comic book you've ever written.

Coming in at $18 now.

Really?

Oh, it's pretty good.

Overstreet puts it at $18.

That's a wall book.

I have that.

I'm going to tell you this, though.

This one shocked me.

Both Carney and War of the Undead are unlisted in Overstreet.

They don't even make the Overstreet post.

Oh, my God.

Wow.

I went to eBay to get some numbers on that so we can play this game.

And War of the Undead number one comes in at $15,

and Carney number one comes in at $8.50.

Wow.

Someone thought Carney would have been the.

Kearney is the least valuable of the three comics.

All right.

So he mixed up the last two.

So you don't get that one right either.

So Q, you're still in first place

with one.

And then finally.

Oh, no, we don't have finally.

Then we have these three comics.

This one's right in your wheelhouse.

Okay.

This is your era.

Spawn number one.

Okay.

Youngblood, number one.

Oh, boy.

And Wildcat's number one.

I still think Spawn has it.

Okay.

It's in the top spot.

I think it's in the top spot.

And then.

Youngblood being the Rob Liefield.

Yeah, I just never read Youngblood, so...

And and people hate Rob Liefield these days, right?

Am I correct about that?

And Wildcats was the Jim Lee book.

Yeah, Wildcats.

I'm going to say Spawn, Wildcats, Youngblood.

This one was a trick question, and you got it right because Spawn is the top book at $40.

Yeah.

Young Blood and Wildcats are tied at $5.

Oh, all right.

So you get it correct.

You got two points.

You won't buy Spawn number one, right?

No, Spawn number ones we buy all the time.

Yeah, we flip them.

We don't flip them for $40.

We're never going to get $40 for it, but we get it $15 for it every Overstreet is historically overpriced, right?

Well, sometimes they're very underpriced as well.

It's hard for them to publish a yearly

guide and keep up with the trends.

Brian, what year was War of the Undead published?

War of the Undead.

2005.

Still not on the board because it was published in 2007.

Ooh.

So close.

So close, man.

I don't blame you for that one.

It's hard.

That's a rough one.

Still talking 13 years ago?

No, I hardly remember a decade of my life.

All right.

And Q, the final Overstreet Challenge.

Yep.

Cerebus number one.

Teenage Mutant and Turtles number one.

Ooh.

Or Elf Quest number one.

These are independent.

It's an independent challenge.

Rough.

Black The white challenge.

I'm going to say, oh, fuck.

I mean, I think TMNT

clearly has to take it.

But

I fucking never read Elf Quest, so I never knew what anybody loved about it.

I hate elves, bro.

I know, but that's that bare chest with the fucking, yeah, but so does Cerebus, and he fucked them.

So

I'm going to say turtles, cerebus, elf quest.

Although I'm probably underestimating Elf Quest because I think it's kind of lame.

No, you're right on the money, my friend.

Really?

Turtles coming in at a whopping $7,000.

There is no chance that that wasn't.

Oh, seven grand for Turtles number one first printing.

Coming in at number two, Cerebus number one at $3,000.

Yeah.

And ElfQuest taking the rear with $115.

Yeah.

What is ElfQuest even up?

Every time I open the book, I'm like, they look so annoying, these characters.

What is this shit?

The turtles, what do you think you can get for it?

Number one, what you could get here?

Yeah, like say somebody came in and bought it.

Like, what do you think you can get?

I wouldn't even try to sell it here.

I'd go right to eBay because, you know, if I'm, that's probably, you know, where you'd maximize your profits on a turtles, number one.

Brian, trying to get on the board here.

Trying.

Sorry, Sandy.

What is the character Cryptozoic Man's real name?

I should know this.

I know I should know it.

You don't know it?

I don't know it.

Dude, think about how long ago it was.

I was so riddled with fucking drugs.

It was.

I know.

It's why I'm not laughing as hard as Walter.

I know it's born of tragedy, but

it was a dark, dark time.

Give me his initials.

Maybe I can guess it.

I can't do that.

Well, it won't count.

It won't count.

I don't remember.

A-O.

A-O?

Still don't know it.

Still don't know it.

It was a dark time, man.

Yeah.

Alan?

Alan.

partridge no oh

i don't know why i see i i should have made up a name i would remember uh yeah ostman alan ostman where'd that name come from i don't know i don't even remember the name of where it fucking came from

all right q

you have in here you have to match oh first appearances the comic books to their to the characters first appearances.

Oh, so we have the characters.

Okay.

Hellboy,

Rocket Raccoon, Machine Man,

Moon Knight,

New Teen Titans, and Howard the Duck.

Wow.

And we have the comics.

He has to do it all.

Tell me what you think.

I'm not going to nail this.

You're going to see me fall apart on this one, but let me give it a shot.

All right.

So for the first character, who do you want to grab?

I'm going to say Machine Man.

Okay, because that's one you really.

Let's go with the ones you really know.

Well, let's go with the ones you really got a good beat on.

Okay.

Oof.

Howard the Duck.

You must know where he first appeared, right?

I

don't.

Well, we can eliminate them.

Well, right.

He is DC, right?

We know he's not in DC.

Yeah, we know he's not in X-Men.

Yeah, we know he's not in a Next-Men.

All right, Werewolf I knight is not in.

No.

So I'm going to say Hulk.

I know this one.

i think hulk um okay so match those together put them together to the side and then we'll we're gonna go in order so we so we're i'm gonna do adventures into fear you're gonna go adventures into fear for how to duck okay yeah adventures into fear 19.

yeah how to duck first appearance okay i'm gonna say machine man yes in next men

uh moon knight and werewolf by night crew okay that's right that's the only one i got right so far okay um

i'm gonna give you two chances i'm gonna tell you the ones that are correct, and then you're going to get a chance to switch up the ones that are correct.

Well, Rocket Raccoon.

Fuck, man.

He's Marvel, so I got to go with Hulk.

New Teen Titans in DC Comics Presents 26, and then Hellboy in 2001, Space Odyssey 8.

Okay.

I will tell you that

this is not correct.

There's one incorrect out of this.

Really?

Well, there's two, of course.

But which I'm going to give you a chance to switch them up.

So you have Howard DeDunk in Adventures into Fear 19.

You have Machine Man in John Burns next.

All right, wait.

So let me try this.

We have Werewolf by Night.

You have in number 32, you have for Moon Knight, and Hulk 271 for Rocket Raccoon, and DC Comics Presents 26 for the new Teen Titans.

And 2001 is Space Odyssey for Hellboy.

Yeah.

Okay.

One of these.

So two two of these are incorrect.

Well, that makes me think that

makes me think that

Howard the Duck probably did not show up in Adventures into Fear.

But he wouldn't have shown up in Werewolf by Night.

This is.

Hmm.

All right, I'm going to switch these two.

I don't think that's right, though.

I don't think I know that.

I'm going to tell you the ones that are right.

Okay.

Hulk 271 was indeed the first appearance of Rocket Raccoon.

Great.

DC Comics Presents 26 was the first appearance of the new Teen Titans.

Okay.

Now he's got four wrong.

You should have stuck with Adventures into Fear 19 being the first appearance of Howard the Duck, if that was correct.

You should have stuck with Werewolf by Night and Moon Knight.

That made sense.

So it was really, it was Machine Man and Hellboy.

Yeah, John Burns Next Man 21 was the first appearance of Hellboy.

Oh, wow.

And Machine Man appeared in Space Odyssey number eight, 2001, in 1977, I believe.

So that was not based on the movie.

It was based on Kubrick's movie.

And Machine Man appeared in there?

Yeah, Jack Kirby created this character called Mr.

Machine.

And then when that book got canceled and the license lapsed, they just moved that character over and changed him into Mr.

Marine.

Wow.

They've made good use of Machine Man over the years.

Yeah, they really have.

All right.

The only reason I.

That was excellent, though.

Wasn't too bad.

Yeah,

don't kick yourself off.

Yeah, how are you?

Judy, or

who's your playing for again?

Mrs.

Judge?

I can't remember the name of a guy who wrote the comic book.

I know you should have been Morgan.

Q, you got

Lisa Jury.

Lisa Jury.

Lisa Jury.

He really tried hard.

I did.

I didn't die.

I had brain cells dying.

I only knew the Howard the Duck one because we did it on comic book, man.

Okay, Bry.

Who colored War of the Undead?

Wayne Jansen?

Oh, no, that was Phil Sloan.

Remember Phil?

Oh, yeah, Phil.

The pizza dude.

The pizza guy.

I only know Wayne Jansen's name.

Phil Sloan, I haven't thought about probably since we did Carney.

Not Carney.

War of the Undead.

War of the Undead, I mean.

Did I win?

Sandy right now is just like...

This stupid fucker.

I lose every game.

Nobody, if I play for somebody, you should expect to lose.

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Yeah.

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Use headphones?

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Like, you know what?

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Like, you know when dad is walking around with the earbuds in his ears?

Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So, the proposal on the table is either the Academy or some other like Hollywood

think tank start a cloning program to keep significant entertainers around

indefinitely.

This will eliminate the need for reboots if we start doing this now.

I was like, no!

Let's see, where was I?

Okay, it's like you take a young actor like Tom Holland.

You know who that is?

I barely know who I am.

I probably do.

I don't know.

He's the Spider-Man guy.

He's Spider-Man on the MCU.

Let's say you start cloning him now.

So, in 18 years, we have an 18-year-old Tom Holland to appear in a new Spider-Man movie where he looks like he did today?

Okay.

How exciting will that be?

Probably not that exciting for me.

All right, then what about this scenario?

I'm now 68 and caring that much about Spider-Man.

Peter Christian is still around.

Or we clone Mark Hamill and Harrison Ford, and in 30 years, we can have a movie that takes place between Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back, and they look exactly like they did in 1980.

Unfortunately, I won't be here to see it, Punks.

Nah, you've got 20 years.

You've got 20 years.

No, he's got a good point.

But not only that, all the actors that you're talking about, all your kids as they get older, who the fuck is this?

They're going to be like, who the hell's Tom Holland?

When somebody's like 50.

You're saying it today.

Now that's quality content.

Okay, let's get back to the show.

All right, Q, this next section is called Kryptonite or Kryptonaut.

Oh.

Now, I'm going to tell you a colored kryptonite.

Okay.

And what it does, and you tell me if that's a real kryptonite or kryptonot, false kryptonite.

Got you.

All right.

Green kryptonite weakens at first with flu-like symptoms that lead to death.

Kryptonite or kryptonaut?

Kryptonite.

Correct.

Yes.

Bry,

what is the name of the traveling freak show in Kearney?

Oh, Ofellows Cavalcade of Oddities?

Correct!

I'm on the board, Sandy.

We're looking good.

We're looking good.

All right, so Q, you have three.

Brian has one, right?

Okay.

I think you got two.

Yeah, you got two.

Yeah, you got three now.

Blue kryptonite turns kryptonians invisible.

Kryptonite?

I think that is kryptonite.

No, it's false.

It's kryptonite.

Kryptonaut.

What does blue kryptonite do then?

I don't know.

I only came up.

Oh, okay, got it.

That's up to their listeners now if they want to investigate.

We're going to try to make them, you know,

prompt that.

You don't want me to look it up.

It's like interactive.

Got you.

Bri, who colored Cryptozoic Man?

Phil.

No, Wayne Jackson.

Correct.

And he also colored Metro.

All right.

Yeah, he did an excellent job.

As well as Vinyl Cast 1 and 2.

Wayne has been a very, very

prolific guy.

He's a talented guy.

I'm the Tom Steve.

He's an off an unsung hero.

Yeah, he's awesome.

I've been singing his praises the whole time.

I think he did everything.

Black Kryptonite

causes a Kryptonian to split into two entities, one evil, one good.

Kryptonite or Kryptonaut?

That's not what.

Oh, fuck, man.

Wait.

Kryptonaut.

Kryptonaut.

Black Kryptonite.

Does cause a kryptonian to split into two entities, one evil and one good.

Evil?

True.

Yeah.

Wow.

All right.

Bry, to date, what is the record price paid for a perfect CGC graded copy of Kryptozoic Man number one?

No.

A thousand bucks.

Yeah.

It was.

Was it a thousand?

No.

I remember it as a thousand.

It was around a thousand.

It was $1,100.

Was it?

Yeah.

All right.

Still three to two.

You're still in it.

Oh, yeah.

You're doing good, man.

All I know is I didn't get that money.

Pink kryptonite causes uncontrollable sobbing in kryptonians.

Kryptonite or kryptonite.

Oh, wow.

That's a statement, right?

That's.

What year did that come out?

The Pink Kryptonite?

Okay, that makes sense.

I don't remember that, but it sounds like some bullshit from the 50s.

So I'm going to say kryptonite.

Pink kryptonite does not cause uncontrollable sobbing.

Kryptonaut.

Kryptonaut?

That does sound like a wall flag.

You never know, man.

It's fucking.

It is the 50s.

Yeah.

All right, Brian.

This one's a tough one.

Like you had all those characters to rearrange.

Now you have to rearrange some things.

Identify all the cryptic creatures and the body parts they represent on Cryptozoic Man.

Oh, I got to remember from memory?

Well, you can look at him.

He's right behind you.

Let me see here.

Where is he?

Okay, so you have Nessie for the arm.

Nessie for the arm.

Correct.

Jersey Devil for the wing.

Correct.

The face is Bigfoot.

Correct.

And the antler, the horn?

Yes.

Fuck, that one I'm not sure about.

That's the last one you need.

It's the last one I need, huh?

You need that one.

Oh, who has antlers, man?

You even know?

Yeah.

Sorry, Sandy.

I don't know.

Make a guess.

What a great design.

Yeah, it's cool.

It's really cool.

Mothman.

I don't know.

I know it's not Mothman.

I just don't know.

I don't know another crypt that I could.

Jersey Devil.

Oh, he's also Jersey Devil.

Just like the Bigfoot foot is also the foot and the face.

Oh, right.

And the torso is also a Bigfoot.

Yeah, that was tricky, man.

I didn't think it would be the same one twice.

Yeah.

Oh, okay.

Still three to two.

Still, anybody else?

I'm hanging in.

I'm flopping on the kryptonite.

So, you know.

Silver kryptonite causes hallucinations and uncontrollable hunger.

Kryptonite or kryptonite?

I don't recall.

Kryptonaut.

Silver does indeed cause hallucinations and uncontrollable hunger.

Kryptonite,

Bry.

I thought Superman was your guy.

He is, man.

But this is all fucking.

This is some deep shit.

This is like

before my era.

Oh, yeah.

Kryptonite, yeah.

Who provided the four covers to Kearney?

Which artist did the covers for Kearney?

Carney.

Oh, it was.

Fuck, what was his name?

God damn it.

He used to do the one for the vampire guy.

Yep.

30 Days a Night.

Yeah.

He was a Steve Niles.

Steve Niles was the writer.

And it was.

Fuck, I'll never remember.

I haven't thought of his name in so fucking long.

Really talented guy, though.

I was happy that he did it.

Shit, I don't know.

I forget.

Ben Temple Smith.

Ben Temple Smith.

Very Temple Smith.

So, Q, if you get this right.

Okay.

It was another Kryptonite one?

Yeah, and Bri, there was one more question for you.

So if he gets this wrong, I could catch up.

You could catch up.

All right.

Purple kryptonite

turns kryptonians into vain, narcissistic know-it-alls.

Kryptonite or kryptonaut.

What color was that?

Purple.

Purple?

Kryptonaut.

Kryptonot.

Correct.

It does not.

That was a kryptonaut.

Bri, the last one, though, if you get this right, I'm going to send Sandy the artwork anyway.

Oh, wow.

All right, there's pressure now.

I'm going to send both Lisa and Sandy a page of artwork.

Sandy already did.

I buy comics.

It just puts us all in like real, right?

Real good.

Nobody's arguing with each other.

Nobody's making fun of each other.

And listeners get a chance to participate and win cool prizes.

This is what all the Patreon episodes do.

You know, like when it's fun.

Like when a professional sports game is a blowout, people just start leaving.

Like Sandy left 15 minutes ago.

To make it up to Sandy, and

no one's going to to remember that you didn't remember much about all the issues that you wrote.

Just it'll all go away and all people are going to remember is that Brian won her age of a record.

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What is the name of the man of a thousand scars in Kearney?

Toho.

I seem to know Carney much better than the other ones.

Everybody gets our board.

All right, Samuel, nice.

Yeah.

We did it.

You did it, buddy.

Yeah, you did it.

You did it.

Whew.

I got to take some.

I got to do something.

Yeah, it is.

I got to do some memory exercises.

I'm just forgetting shit.

Yeah, Michelle.

I heard that that is good, but it starts coming out of your pores and you smell like fishes.

Really?

Yeah.

And you know what?

What would you say?

Might be worth it.

No, no, I was going to say, would you rather not know who fucking colored War of the Undead or something?

I don't want to forget Phil Sloan's name again.

I'll smell like a fucking mackerel.

Because at the end of the day, Sandy's still got the artwork.

You don't smell like fish.

Yeah, it all works out.

So, how long have we been going on this episode?

This is about 50 minutes so far.

Oh.

All right.

So, I mean,

I thought it went well.

Yeah,

I love doing that.

I love rapping about comics.

Fingers can be.

Yeah, I like rapping about it.

Are you still an avid reader?

Every week.

Yeah?

Every week what did you think about the bloodbath at dc oh i felt i was very glad to hear that uh people that i know personally survived but you're talking about like a mass firing or something man they got hit so hard um i don't think it bodes well for

comics are never going to go away but i just i'm worried that comics are just

because the people that they put in charge this is the problem And I'm telling you this, this is inside.

If you can give DC any words of advice right now,

this is where they would go to listen to it.

They should be listening to this fucking podcast, DC.

Listen, busy listening.

I sell comics.

ATT Paul.

Oh, no shit.

That's why they're going out of business.

Corner,

including me.

Oh, so you're owned by ATT, so you should be very careful.

No,

we lost people we've worked with for a decade in the last two weeks.

They're basically closing 98% of the New York office.

It's like, it's horrible.

DC,

it seems like I'm worried that they're putting people in charge of the company that have nothing to do with comics.

That's a problem.

I think that's an issue.

Like, they're putting in,

I mean, they're getting rid of people who have worked in comics for their entire lives and putting in people who have never worked in comics because they're looking at it more of like a business.

I'm a little worried that it's just going to become a farm for movies and shit like that, and that's all they care about.

Who's the editor-in-chief at DC right now?

They just fired Dan Dadio.

Did they?

Well, no, then another guy, the guy that replaced him, would also go as low.

Oh, he went too, right?

Yeah.

I think it's dark times ahead for comics, unfortunately.

But you know what?

There always will be comics, like you said, but there may be some

light shelves as we proceed in the years with comic books in terms of the output that a DC or Marvel's able to put out.

just not enough people out there buying it either, though.

No, you know what?

It might

put an end to

it, it wouldn't be.

Look, they put out some fucking bullshit comics, too.

Like, there's some shit that I won't miss.

They're very guilty of it.

Both companies are.

Yeah, but it's unfortunate.

Like, I had it ready yet, but I was looking forward to getting into it.

Like, the new Hellblazer I heard was fucking excellent.

And they canceled that, and the first trade hadn't even come out yet.

I don't know, man.

I think it's going to be dark.

But we go through this every every every it's cyclical yeah the the the the doomsday sayers have been saying comics are dead for since 2000 it won't be dead did they did they partially do it to themselves with like all this crossover shit and event shit and like

i think there i think there's a lot of fingers that are going to be pointed at all the events people are event weary People are just weary at the prices, too.

I mean, I see it.

I see it every day.

People cannot afford to keep up with.

It's four bucks a book.

Yeah.

If not, more.

And it's weird too, because, like, and I know why they're doing it, and I'm glad they're doing it, but it's just like the same price, the book, digital or printed, is the same price.

And the reason they're doing it is because if they don't do that, everybody's just going to buy digital.

Yeah, there's no easy answers.

And I mean, it's.

It's tough, man.

I don't feel.

You know what?

I also,

and

I don't even want to fuck it.

You know what?

I'm not even going to say it.

I think that they kind of, I think they kind of,

I think for a little bit,

both companies have lost their North Star, what they should be going after.

I think that they

lost

sight of the characters and what they mean to people.

And I think that they started worrying about the world outside comics.

And you're not alone.

A lot of people think the same way.

I see that

same exact message from a lot of people.

And it's just like the story's got to be first.

It's like the characters and the story have got to be first.

And when you lose sight of that, like they did in the 90s, like they're doing now, that's when people are like, fuck it.

Like, fuck, I want to read this.

You know what?

DC Marvel.

Listen to this podcast.

We've got three creators here.

We could bring Carney to DC and save them.

Carney too.

We could bring Metro to Marvel.

Yeah.

You know, and cross over with Punisher, cross over with Ghost Rider.

Ah, it'd be great.

Or just give us Ghost Rider and Punisher.

Yeah.

I'm disinterested.

Do they still put out Ghost Rider?

Sure.

Yeah, but this is a great example of what's wrong.

Here is, here, this is what's wrong.

Ghost Rider is one of the fucking, one of my favorite characters.

Love Ghost Rider.

Then they get it.

I was in Marvel's offices and I was talking to the guy and they're like, like, Yeah, we're just sick of the motorcycle.

We just don't want a motorcycle anymore.

And I was like, And I was like, What do you mean?

I argued with the guy.

I was like, What do you mean you don't want the motorcycle anymore?

That's Ghost Rider.

And they're like, No, we just don't want to see a motorcycle anymore.

And I'm like, What the fuck?

And then they create this Robbie Reyes character who fucking sucks balls.

It is, it is

a harsh.

I buy comics.

I tried to read that, and it was, it was, and it wasn't even like it was a bad writer.

Like, didn't Aaron write, like, who wrote those?

I'm not sure.

Yeah,

I am the least

able to

comment on the state of comic books in terms of the production, in terms of

the way the stories are written.

I don't read them.

I'm an old school guy.

I buy old stuff collected in hardcovers and trade paperbacks, the stuff that I grew up with.

But the only way I can comment on it is how I see the lukewarm reaction to the customers here at the store.

And that's not like, I'm not saying that that's got to be nationwide, the feeling.

I can only comment about what I see.

You're on the front lines, though.

Right, but I'm not saying that that, well, because it doesn't sell here, that means it doesn't sell in any stores across the country.

I'm not saying that either.

For all I know, maybe the things that don't sell here, maybe they do well in other parts of the world.

I don't know.

San Francisco.

Yeah.

And were people's response to that ghostwriter?

It's weird because, like, you figure a character like that could

keep a book longer than he does it seemingly feels like you know there's certain characters that just get canceled 20 issues in constantly and are just they trot them back out four years later they just need the right angle because like if you look at it like how long did they try and crack deadpool before deadpool become became what he is how long like the punisher right didn't he he had and now he's well even now he doesn't even have he doesn't even have his own book

these characters just go away for a little while and they come back i think that was because garth ennis defined it so like garth and his punisher was

he's the punisher, and it's hard to.

And then they're like, Well, try Frankencastle, and you're like, Well,

I see what you're going for, and I kind of do dig Frankencastle, but I would like to see more of Garth Ennis come back.

I mean, you know what?

I just recently reread with Grant Morrison's Justice League, and

the first arc with the Martians.

Holy fuck, and I'm like, How could I read

any other justice?

You know what I mean?

Like, it's so fucking good.

He defines it.

I mean, mark way did good too and and

but yeah that grant morrison run is just just so good so i don't know how does ghost rider get around if he doesn't have his motorcycle his car oh no he's a car

and he's not a demon anymore his uncle's a serial killer or some shit like that and that possessed the car it's just like

but but it wasn't even that because i it was just hearing that and that was not at marvel anymore but hearing his disdain for the motorcycle you're just like how are you you?

Now, are you in charge of this?

But, like, I think, though, this comes with age, though, because I kind of get the feeling you're a Danny Ketch guy.

Oh, I am a Danny Ketch guy, yeah.

And you know what?

Because he was with me.

I was saying the same shit about Johnny Blaze.

That's right.

I was saying, these fucking punks.

But I love Johnny Blaze.

Oh, you do?

But I love Johnny Blaze.

And they made him his brother.

But even like, okay, but like here, like, like, to me, Kyle Raynor, I love.

He's my green lantern.

Yeah.

But I like Hyl Jordan.

Like, Wally West is my flash, and I like Jay Garrick, and I like Impulse, but Barry Allen is a fucking punk-ass bitch.

And why they brought that fucking asshole back from the dead, and then he's such a stick-up as ass.

He's such a fucking nerd, and then and then what happened?

Nobody likes Barry Allen, so they turn him into Wally West.

If you read the comics now, and I didn't tell you you were reading Barry Allen, you'd be like, This is Wally West.

He's jokey, he's fucking goofy, he's irresponsible.

They're always like, What?

They're like, This guy's a fucking cop.

He works for a crime scene investigator.

He's not a goofy fucking pal around guy, and that's what they're turning him into.

And I'm like, well, because you know what?

Stodgy don't sell.

So kill him.

Kill him off again.

It fucking sucks.

Oh, I hate Wallace.

I mean, I hate Barry Allen so much.

The passion right here.

The comic book passion.

People love that.

That's why they love this podcast.

Yeah.

I'd love to hear you nerd out.

Well, you ready for this?

I'm going to name drop and nerd out.

All at the same time.

Yeah, same thing.

I was talking to

I was on the set of Wonder Woman when I went there years ago.

Gail Goddard.

And I was talking to

Patty Jenkins, who directed the movie in Gail, and somehow we got into the flash, and I started going on a rant, and I could see the eyes.

Glaze over.

Yeah, they were like, what's he talking about?

One of those.

I thought he was cool.

I stopped.

I saw it.

When I saw the glaze start, I was like, okay,

don't do it.

Don't do it.

Don't do it.

I really hate it.

I really hate it.

That's why

the real

Q people, the real people who love Q, they love that you love comics.

They love that you can nerd out like that.

You have a nerd face.

You have an O face for Q.

I do.

I do.

And his show is on this podcast.

Gal and Patty Jenkins didn't want to see it.

The woman directing Wonder Woman was like, why the fuck are you talking about turn her off?

Totally.

Dad is a comic book fan.

Dad is the leader of I Buy Comics.

That's why you're at the helm.