#440: Tit 4 Tat

How was today's catch?

Some fresh fish coming your way.

Benjamin.

I thought it was just a sweet, like swindle stood for sweet deal.

No, I don't think that's the widely accepted definition.

Tell them Steve Dave.

Hello and welcome to this week's edition of Tell'em Steve Dave.

We're in a hurry today.

Walt Flanagan's got somewhere to be.

We're going to record at six.

I saw a text that can we do this at five.

Do you have please tell me you have something fun to do that you can report back to us?

Oh, yeah, I'm just going out to a drive-in to eat.

Everything closes early, so I wanted to get a little bit of a you you know a head start in case

you know it went a little long now when you say drive-in do you mean sonic down the street

no no I'm gonna go I'm gonna go to Red Robin we'll eat it in the car oh okay

so take out and then you sit in the car and eat it yeah that's awesome

but this is what the families used to do in the 50s though everything was a drive-through in the 50s though yeah they gathered in front of of their TVs like you guys are doing.

Or, you know, they just drove to like, you know, a place and the, you know, like you saw on Happy Days, and the waitress would come out to the car and would bring you like...

Roller skates on roller skates, right?

Yeah.

I mean, we're getting back to those good old days now.

This is the best thing that could have happened to you.

We're going back to Mayberry now.

It's really not the best thing ever happened.

We're going to be afraid of the Russians before you know it.

You know, the whole nuke thing will be back.

Everything is cyclical.

I will tell you, I've been walking around, I've been going for walks, stuff like that, and I do notice

something I haven't seen in a long time, like kids playing in the front yard and stuff like that.

People are, it is,

it's turning back the clock a bit.

Yeah, because it's like they still have their...

their video games and their and their devices.

So yeah, you wonder

what's getting them outside, though.

Because

all that's here still.

Yeah, but I mean, it's probably that they're like, they can't even get to go to, like, they don't even go to school.

So then they just never leave the house.

And kids of a certain age, being around their parents all the time, are going to do anything, I suppose, even if it's just go out in the front yard.

Yeah, kind of cool.

Do you see it staying as such?

Like, because if you remember after 9-11, you know, people were real nice to each other.

People were friendly and helpful and neighborly.

And, you know, after a while,

you know, just like anything, it faded and people remembered to be annoyed about shit.

So like, uh.

Oh, yeah.

I don't think this will last now.

And I don't even think it's that nice, to tell you the truth.

Like, people are actually kind of shitty.

They're real shitty about, like, that's my toilet paper.

Yeah.

I haven't seen a lot of that in my own personal

interactions with people at the grocery store and somewhat.

But yeah, you you hear a lot of stories about that.

But is that still going on?

I mean, are people still hoarding?

I think everybody's everybody pretty stocked up at this point.

Well, didn't I stock you up with toilet paper, Q?

You're not through with that toilet paper yet, are you?

Did we fucking talk about that yet?

Did we not mention that?

No, we didn't talk about it.

Oh, my God.

Yeah,

I wanted to talk.

I wanted to know because when all this started, like three weeks back,

you guys were like,

Walt, you asked if we needed anything.

In my mind, I was like, oh, he must be going to the store.

He's got a hookup or something like that.

And I was like, yeah.

And I was like, the only thing I'm worried about actually running out is toilet paper.

Fucking Walt mailed six rolls of toilet paper to my house.

And I was so touched, but then I was like, wait a second, this isn't like a pack that fell off a truck.

I texted your waltz and I was like, did you just send me your personal toilet paper?

And how great?

You were like, yeah, I thought you needed it, which I was like, that's fucking, that's so, you literally gave me the toilet paper from your own bathroom.

That was crazy.

That's not what you need.

where'd you go to the turnpike restaurant?

The practical joker needs that TP.

Use your shirt.

Here's a corn cop.

Well, because I figured, well, I didn't know,

I didn't really have an overabundance of it, but I had to figure that if I was caught unawares, I can't imagine how you were stocked up, could be stocked up because you were, you know, you're still doing your IJ thing at a manic pace.

So, I can't imagine that, like, because this kind of turned on a dime, the whole world just changed overnight.

So, I was, I was like, there's no way that Q

had the time or

the wherewithal to get like all to get like, you know, stockpiles of shit he's going to need.

No, I, you were right about that.

And I will say it did come in handy.

So, thank you.

Is he still got some left?

Uh, yeah, no, no, I still got some left.

I did go to the supermarket, eventually stocked up on everything.

I have some filled up here.

So, if you need me to send it back to you on YouTube,

I can do that.

But, how great?

That's so fucking nice of you, dude, that you just sent that.

I really appreciate that.

Thank you.

No problem, yeah.

Q, was there any was there any feeling of like it's it's extremely nice, but the brand I get's a little bit softer, a little bit more appropriate for the ass of a joker?

It was single ply.

I didn't want to say anything for it.

A thousand sheets.

It wasn't, as I recall, it was like, it wasn't even wrapped, right?

No, it was, it was just, it was,

you just took six rolls of toilet paper out of whatever container was in and mailed it to me.

Well, did you send pictures?

I think you sent pictures of it to me.

I was like,

because I felt, because I was like, all right, so Walt doesn't understand.

that I thought he was going to the store.

Walt thinks that I was just like, yes, give me some of your toilet paper.

That was like when I realized that's what had happened, I was like, oh man, I feel like a dick, but how cool that he sent it.

So

Mary Beth went to the store today and she took a picture of it's now it's uh people are real into peanut butter and that sort of thing I guess

where they can't get it I don't know I don't know if there's a fear that like they're buying stuff that will last a long time should now food run out because somebody I don't know the other day it was like there's gonna be a meat shortage and this kind of shortage and that shit.

I don't know.

I think it's coming close to where they're going to start to really contemplate lifting this, though.

So I don't think this is going to.

I don't think there's going to be peanut butter or meat shortages.

How far out do you think we are?

How many days?

Did you say that?

We're still talking weeks, right?

Yeah,

I think that the rest of the country is going to definitely have the

limitations lifted very soon, and maybe New York a little bit after that.

But I would think sometime in May.

No, you don't agree.

I mean, no, it's another month away.

I mean, every time you.

No, it's not.

What, the middle of May?

Oh, you're saying the beginning of May.

No, in the month of May.

I don't know when in May, but sometime in May, I think they're going to.

Maybe not in New York.

Yeah, I think for where I am, we're still looking at June.

I do, I do, because it's only six weeks away, and I just feel like there's no way the situation is going to...

I think you're at least still three weeks away from being on the other side of the of the big surge of it, right?

No, I think they said it's a leveling off.

Yeah, but leveling off doesn't mean that it's stopped.

It just means it stopped getting worse.

It's still pretty fucking bad.

Their case has still got to start going down.

So I think you got to add a couple of weeks of that and who knows?

I don't know.

They canceled school for the whole school year now over here.

So I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know when I, I don't, personally, I don't know when I go back to work because who the fuck

is going to make a hidden camera show?

We got to walk up the train

in masks.

Yeah, like it's just.

Well, your identities will be harder to be people to figure out who you are, though.

Yeah, this could be the golden age.

Nobody's going to be in the mood.

They're going to get

away from me.

I mean, how happy will people be for like the next scoopsy potatoes where you're like, you're throwing food and like sneezing on food and all this other shit that you guys are doing?

I don't see it happening, man.

I think the earliest we're going back to work is the fall, and that's the earliest.

Season nine might be off, and I don't have any information, but I think it might be off until.

until the early next year before we start shooting again, but what do I know?

I don't know.

I literally don't know anything, but

it's funny, too.

We have two episodes in the can for season nine already.

So whenever we get back to shooting, none of us are going to look the same.

It's like, I'm probably going to be 20 pounds heavier and hairier and shit like that.

Jet black hair.

You're like Mike Zapzick now.

It's already wearing off.

Thank God.

The great coming back.

I can't wait for it to be over to fucking get in this room and record again.

This is getting old, the phone shit.

I couldn't agree more.

And

this is paradise compared to the puck nuts we attempted last night.

Oh, my God.

It was so frustrating.

Who was the weak link?

Who was it?

I think it was tech.

It was just tech in general.

Like, Ming.

Like, because what I do is I just call you guys.

So, like, we're on the phone and it's just a phone line.

Whereas, like, Ming's going over the internet and there's video and you're looking at us.

It's not necessary.

And, you know, with everybody home, everyone's using their internet.

It's like six at night, so it's slow as shit.

So we just keep getting dumped off, and Walt can't hear anything.

And then suddenly I get kicked off, and

eventually we just did it by phone.

Yeah, a 35-minute episode took two hours last night.

That's why I said, can we start a little early just in case that happens again?

Yeah, two false starts, and then the third time was, I mean,

I don't want to go so far as to say the charm.

I don't even know if I, I don't even know how if we could even release it.

It was like with four people, it's even more difficult because it's so hard for anybody to figure out when to speak.

Oh, yeah.

There's absolutely zero visual cues.

Right.

And they don't have like with you guys,

we've been friends for so long.

We've been doing this podcast so long.

I kind of have an idea of,

you know, just instinct who, who's got the next hot take that's coming down the pike and when it should shut up.

I want to just talk, but if you're doing it with like guys that you don't normally do with, too, yeah, that could be rough.

It's literally podcasting blind.

Yeah, not a lot of people can do it as well as we do.

Took a pandemic to prove it, but hey, all people know.

Is there any particular conspiracy theories that you guys enjoy?

Are you

there's the,

of course, the corona conspiracy theories that are out there about the 5G or something to do with the phone lines or something like that?

Well, that's what I mean.

There's multiple coronavirus conspiracy theories.

Have you heard that, Q?

I have heard the 5G.

I mean, I haven't.

I don't know what it's about.

I know people are saying that the 5G network is

responsible for getting people sick, but the 5G network has been in use for years.

Yeah, it says it weakens your immune system.

I didn't look into it either.

When I heard it, of course,

it's about the cell phones.

I was like, I wasn't even motivated to even read about it.

I was like, it's so fucking ridiculous.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I did have a thought the other day that's very unlike me, but I was just puttering around the house and I was like, man, I can't wait to go outside.

And I was like, what if all this, what if the government's doing something right now and and they they need us all to stay in the house to hide whatever they're doing and i and that thought came and went in my head before i was like

you know i was like well that's ridiculous people still outside the house and i was like well what they would be doing and then it got fun because i was like all right an alien spaceship crashed and they want to make sure we don't see it like that but but the germ of it yeah like i like that

Yeah, right?

Like, they can't have people out because they're moving the corpses around and stuff like that.

Or what if it's an alien fucking germ?

It crashed and all all the alien germs got in the air, and that's what COVID is.

It's not from a bat, it's from a fucking little green Martian.

Oh, space bat, yeah.

Or, how about this?

A Chinese guy ate the little alien.

I read the definition of a wet market yesterday.

I almost puked while reading it.

I was like, oh my God.

It's just these Asian markets that I guess America's like, hey, can you guys just like chill for a little bit on the wet market?

And they're like, no, no, we can't.

It's just like exotic wildlife, like all kinds of animals that you would never eat.

And it is weird because, like, you judge the shit out of them.

And, like, you know, I'll eat chicken all day.

But if somebody was like, hey, would you like to try like breast of cowbird?

I'd be like, are you out of your fucking mind?

No, like, how do I know what that thing has?

You know, what kind of disease?

Yeah, but that's, I guess, why, I mean, Q and I, when I did the IJ bit where I was in the short shorts and stuff behind the mirror, after that, Q and I went to a a real Chinese restaurant, not like an American Chinese restaurant.

Oh, my God.

I mean, disgusting.

Chicken feet and gizzard of this and eyeballs of that.

I'm like, oh, my God.

I mean, I guess you have to when you have that many people in a country and nobody, you know, you're dirt poor.

What are you going to do?

You have to eat whatever you can.

So, I mean, you don't have to keep doing it, but they decide to.

I feel like sometimes, like, the,

according to my grandparents, like, they were old school Italians, farmers and shit.

They would eat like cow brain and stuff like that and cow eyeball and I'd be like, what the fuck are you eating?

So I, yeah, so I remember the Chinese restaurant.

I was like, this is really gross.

It's just like, why are you guys eating this?

You know, there's other stuff that isn't.

Yes.

Yeah.

When I was a kid, they don't have it anymore, and you can't even get it at the butcher.

Like,

what used to be called finest and is now food town, they used to have cow brains, they would have cow tongues and hearts, like just like motherfuckers are still out eating cow tongue.

That's on menus in Manhattan.

I'm like, what are you guys?

Not oh,

that's a Jewish deli thing, right?

Like cow tongue,

I guess.

I don't know.

I just remember seeing it on menu and being like, this is crazy.

But we'll eat the, we'll eat its ass, though.

Like like it's what's it called the uh

you know the the meaty parts whatever those

i thought you thought you were talking about that for a second there

you know it's just it's just got to get your head wrapped around i mean it's just a just a different part of the body though that you're okay with though just because q and i are a little wild doesn't mean we eat cow ass what are we trying to keep that here

uh you're right though yeah it's like certain cuts you're like god damn that's good.

And then you look at other people that it's like, I don't know, it's just traditionally regarded as totally disgusting, you know.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong.

I always assumed that the sir loin was part of the, was the nut area, right?

Because that's the loins.

I don't know.

Let me look it up.

I'll look up part.

Because I thought it was like the sir, since it was a male and the loins, I thought it was the male part near the male part of the cow's, you know what?

Right.

His fucking.

uh okay here's

here's what you need to know okay so you got your cow right let's say you start from the head uh the first part like up by his shoulders that's the chuck i guess that's the uh the the meat that's like kind of tough you know okay

that's what they yeah they chop up and make hamburgers hamburgers or chuck steaks i remember when i was young my pam would go to the butcher and she got chuck steaks and they'd be tough as shit but they're cheaper you know

uh so then the next up are the ribs.

That's pretty self-explanatory.

Then you got yourself your shortloin, and that's like

I would say a

third of the way down his body.

The short loin ends.

And then right by his nutsack, you got a little bottom sirloin going on, end flank.

That was right.

Yeah, so you got your flanks, where your flank steak and your bottom sirloin meet, you got some nutsack action.

Above the bottom sirloin is the top sirloin, then the tenderloin, then the sirloin.

The whole ass, the ass part that's around.

I guess that's like what's it?

Roast beef and shit, right?

What about the flaming yon?

That is,

I guess that would be here by the tenderloin, right, Kyo?

That's what I would think.

Yeah, I don't know.

I don't know.

Yeah, flame and yom.

That is crazy.

And like the fact that I've met cows that I've really liked

is insane that I continue to eat steak and hamburgers and shit like that.

So I don't know.

Who am I to judge?

I go down to that fishery by us, Walt,

down the street from you, and I'll get a lobster once in a while, but they're live lobsters.

And I have to get them to do my dirty work there.

They laughed at me the first time.

What's your dirty work?

Cook it for you?

To kill it.

No, they'll co cook it, but they'll kill them for me so I don't have to do it myself.

Oh, wow.

They must look at you like you got a pea sitting down when you fucking.

Oh, that would probably be complimentary.

Those fishermen down there?

Yeah.

Those fishermen,

they got fucking hooks for hands, don't they, down there?

That's all I have.

I haven't seen a hand in the place yet.

Those are tough dudes down there.

I'm not allowed to drive over there.

Oh,

I wouldn't be shocked if your wife was like,

when you go to the end of that road, you take a left.

You do not take a right.

The right goes to where the tough boys are.

It smells like fucking like a garbage dump, and there's all this fucking tough, dirty-ass-looking, scruffy fucking

seamen down there.

Yeah.

There's no place for you down there.

I go, I'm just like, hello, boys.

How was today's catch?

Some fresh fish coming your way.

Aren't you the one who can't kill a lobster?

How did they kill it?

Did they just hold its nose or something?

Yeah, they suffocate him.

Take a pillow out and put it over the lobster.

How do they do it?

I think basically they just snap his arms off and then snap his tail off, and then he's pretty much dead.

Yeah, I know, it's awful.

I always went for the knife behind the, you know, in between the eyes and the brain and trying to get it that way.

Yeah, that's when I used to work at Walt.

You remember Connors way back in the day?

Yeah.

I was a prep cook, and that was my job was to like prep lobsters, and I would do it like it was nothing.

You know, it was like only in eighth grade.

But I don't know, I don't know why it got so soft.

I was thinking about

who would still be in your life if, like, obviously we have a lot of time to fucking just watch shit.

So

I watched these ID channels, and I'm like, how do people talk to these guys after they commit a crime of this magnitude?

You know?

Like, who,

you know, you know, like some of the really awful crimes, you know, you know, guy murders his entire family, you know, his wife and his two kids.

you talk about that guy who who stuffed who stuffed everybody in a oil in a oil like uh like refinery

no is that recent it was kind of yeah well that's what his whole family he killed everybody and then he worked at an oil place and put them in a giant like one of those giant like oil tanks

yeah okay good no that's definitely neither here nor there yeah but how did they um how did they know that they were in the oil tank like how'd they find

Well, they have the, I mean, I'm sure, yeah, this is a pretty big case.

It was everywhere.

He was like the new Drew Peterson of the, you know, and there's actual audio and

videotape of him confessing to his father in the police interrogation room.

It's heartbreaking when his father's son.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay, yeah,

I know who this is.

Oh, my God.

Oh, yeah, strangled him, too.

I felt so bad for that grandfather as his son told him that what happened to his family and what he how he killed him it was it was devastating you just see the devastation on the grandfather's faces he cannot believe what he's hearing his son confessed to killing his two little kids and his wife oh god almighty christmas it really shouldn't yeah it really shouldn't be on tv it really shouldn't like no one should see that it's so heartbreaking

you're yeah you're just like you think about when they first met you know, the guy and the lady and the life that they had and the kids that they were raising.

Because these are not like, I mean, they were little kids, but they weren't like newborns.

You know, they were like two, three years old.

Yeah, they were like four.

Yes, four and three, I think.

Oh, it's a heartbreaking story, man.

Yeah, I can't remember.

What are they saying his

motive was?

Was he...

It was another woman.

Was it?

Yeah, that's what I thought.

Jesus Christ.

God.

What is that woman doing?

What is that other woman doing that will make you do that?

Well, I mean, there are tricks.

So that's extreme.

Oh, my God.

Yeah, you haven't met the girl yet, right, Q?

For me, the girl, I mean,

maybe in my 20s, I could have gotten hopped up in that sort of fever, but

who didn't he killed?

Who didn't he killed?

You must have been a handful of Q in your 20s.

I wish I knew you had been.

You wish you knew Q better in his 20s?

Yeah, I wish I knew him better in his 20s.

He sounds like he was quite a handful.

We wouldn't be having this conversation if you knew Q in his 20s.

You would be like.

It takes a sturdier soul than yourself to deal with a guy like that.

Oh, my God.

Every single friend I have tells me I was an asshole in my 20s.

I would say here and there, but I think it was you weren't, you weren't an asshole.

I always saw it as like you needed to work your way through certain things.

I mean,

you weren't like you were an asshole to, you were never an asshole to me, which I appreciated.

That part was cool.

That made it easier, right, Brian?

Oh, definitely.

Also, it's just like, I'll join in.

Hey, you want some backup?

But I remember like one time we went to,

what's that bar where all the girls hang up their bras and stuff?

Hogs and heifers.

Hogs and heifers.

Yeah.

It was the Coyote Ugly Bar, and Q and I went there.

And there's a girl there having her

bachelorette party and she's up on the bar dancing.

And when she gets down, Q can't get to her fast enough to tell her how marriage isn't going to work.

It's a fucking fool's errand and folly and all this other shit.

I mean,

he couldn't have gotten there fast enough, and then he just wouldn't leave her alone.

I'm telling you.

You're making a mistake.

Yeah, and not even like hitting on her, like, hey, I'm the guy for you.

Just like, look, I'm telling you, just in general, what you're doing, you're making a huge mistake.

Yeah.

I wonder, like, if you, if we, if we had the ability to track that woman down,

would she today be like, fuck, I wish I had listened to that guy?

Chances are

better than not that you would have been right.

I mean, just by the divorce.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

I don't know.

What is it?

What is it?

Is it just people?

I mean, this really has to put a lot of people to the test.

This shit.

Being stuck inside.

Are you in debt more in love than ever, Walt?

Definitely.

Definitely.

But I did hear in China, there was like after their long quarantine, that there was all sorts of fucking

like divorce

things being put into motion into the courts.

And by divorce, you mean guys throwing their wives into the Yangtze River

and mess.

Holy shit.

They got

sorry, go ahead, Q.

No, no, no.

I've been talking to some friends of mine and stuff like that.

I've heard the phrase, married people aren't meant to spend this much time together uh uh more than once from some of my friends really

yeah so i don't think everybody has it quite as easy

uh i i yeah i i think that's probably true i think people like they like their friends and they like you know even if they're like friends at work or whatever uh

just somebody that's not you you know like up in their face which i guess you know guys feel the same way

there's how many sitcoms are there devoted to this shit, you know?

I would think that you got, you don't have any problems.

I mean, you guys are still basically, it's a duly wet situation, all right?

Yeah, you'd think so.

MB.

No,

she's really easy to get along with.

We don't have those issues, really.

And yeah, it is since I guess it is.

But again, though, like, how did it change, though, from before

pre-Corona lockdown to post-Corona lockdown?

I mean,

has really your situation changed?

You guys were spending that much time together before then anyway, weren't you?

That one day, it's now 23 hours I'm with her when we do tell them, Steve Dave.

Other than that, yeah.

I don't know.

Yeah, not that much has changed, but I would like to go out and do more shit.

Like,

I can't go anywhere.

Like, you know, just if you just want to go to, was it like Panera Bread?

You know, you fucking sit there and, you know, like, you read your paper and just hang out that little time for yourself.

You know, it's like, you don't really have that.

And with Sage Home and fucking,

you know, now she's fucking got, you know, she's not a little kid with the fucking period shit.

And then I got to deal with that fucking attitude.

Oh, my God.

It's only like a couple days out of the month, right?

Yeah, but it seems like a month unto itself.

You know, I don't want to hear any bullshit from women about how, like, oh, you know, I don't change.

I don't get more, you know, upset or emotional or whatever.

It's like, I look at Sage as a very accurate depiction of how people really are in terms of like, she's almost like a little bit of an id where she'll say things she means.

Like she told me today, she's like, you're not that fat.

And I was like, all right, but I'm still fat.

You're saying

she doesn't mean anything by it, but that's just the way it is.

You know, and the same thing with this shit, man.

The emotions and stuff are like off the charts at times.

She cries way more.

I mean, I hit her way more, so there's that.

I don't know if that has something to do with it.

Might be a direct correlation there, but I don't know.

I'm not sure I'll pick out

go to school for this shit.

But yeah, I was wondering, like, oh, and disappearing,

like, when the number of like, especially females, obviously, who go missing

and it's like, what happened?

They're just never seen again.

This person is never seen again, and people go to their fucking graves.

Parents go to their graves, never knowing what the fuck happened.

That's got to be the worst thing in the world, right?

I think that's worse than knowing, right?

Is not knowing?

It's got to be.

Yeah, I think so.

I think so.

Because every time you think about it, you create a new terrible ending in your head.

Yeah, anything

child.

I was just about to say, like, anything you're thinking would be worse, but

there was this

case I was reading the other day.

This girl and her

and her buddy were like bike riding and they don't come home on time.

They're like nine and ten years old.

So, of course, people get nervous.

They're looking around for, and one of their dads is down in the woods where they would play sometimes looking for, stumbles across their bodies where like their faces are bashed in and their eyes are gouged out.

It's like, I can't,

I'm like, this is mind-bending.

I can't even conceive of stumbling over Sage.

I just,

you can't imagine what it would be like.

And people say that shit all the time.

Like, yeah,

I know how you feel.

It's like, no, you don't.

No, you don't.

Sometimes, no, you don't.

And that's one of those situations where it's like, fucking fuck you.

Yeah.

That's kind of.

I've had some bad things happen to me in my life,

but that is

no, I don't think it touches it.

I don't think it touches it.

Well, my original thing.

What's that?

Oh, sorry, go ahead.

No, no, no, go ahead.

Well, I was going to say, my original thing was

who would,

like, if you commit certain crimes, you'll see people drop off eventually, right?

Like,

there's somebody who has a tolerance for

one DUI, but maybe they don't have a tolerance once you get three DUIs, and they're like, I just don't really want to be associated with this guy anymore.

Sure, you know what I mean?

So, I'm wondering, like, I'm going to name some crimes, and if you think

everyone would be out of your life, or even certain people would be out of your life for them, you know, people you're just close to,

sure.

Well, obviously, I mean, there's some unforgivable crimes in the United States of America, right?

I agree.

But, um, okay,

so I think the first one is pretty tame, though I can't say that Walt wouldn't fucking turn his back on me if I was a reciditis Jay Walker.

I wonder when the last time someone a cop wrote a ticket for Jay Walker, though.

Oh, in New York City, it happens, Walter.

Oh, yeah, you know what?

Yeah, you're right.

I forget about the big city.

Yeah, I always think of things in my from my own POV, and I can't imagine like if a cop in,

you know in the suburbs ever writing a ticket for jaywalking like right back like on broad street it wouldn't happen yeah no i almost got a ticket for once a cop was like what the he was yelling at me and he's like what he's like what are you doing what are you doing why are you jaywalking and i was like because it's new york city man like i was like i just want to get across and uh he just let me to go but he was he's pretty pissed about it so

it's so i mean it was so difficult to drive in that city the number of people who just, the walk sign means nothing to them.

They just go anywhere.

It's nuts.

But I think most people can overlook jaywalking.

But say

possession of marijuana.

You get busted for possession of marijuana.

Well, not you, but yeah, you get busted for possession of marijuana.

But it's not like a kilo.

It's, you know, personal use type stuff.

I don't think anybody cares.

Nobody cares.

But what if it is a kilo, though?

Okay, that changes everything.

Let's say it's a kilo.

That changes everything, though.

Well, how big's a kilo?

Can I hold it in my hand?

2.2 pounds, right?

It's like the size of a cinder block.

It's all taped together.

Oh, I sure know a lot about it.

Yeah, whoa.

I don't think, I think even a kilo, nobody gives a fuck.

They're like, holy shit, that guy likes the party, but I don't think anybody's like, he's selling drugs.

Oh, I think you're crazy.

I I mean, I think that would definitely, like, if like

Giddam got caught for the kilo,

I would be like, he's done.

Yeah, you'd fire him?

Well, I'd have somebody else fire him, but then I wouldn't ask

telling Steve Dave anymore either, though.

Yeah.

Why?

Because

we don't want to be the podcast that's associated with fucking cartel members and shit.

Leave that to Smodcast.

So now get him

in the cartel.

Elfado.

Well, that's interesting.

We found Walt cutoff.

A kilo.

If it's like a little bit, like, you know, it's like, it's like a roach.

I could deal with it, buddy, you know, but if it was like a fuck kilo, yeah, that's that's life-altering

arrest right there, I think.

Probably.

And also, it could be like, well, did he find it?

Or is he trying to sell it for someone?

I guess it would also depend on

what the deal was.

How did he come to possess it?

Oh, yeah.

Or at least his version of it.

Can't believe a guy like that, you know?

Oh,

if he's involved in kilos, fuck it, man.

You don't know what his deal is.

So, okay, so the third one is

you're caught spray painting on some kind of

public property, like

the side of the post office.

What am I spraying?

Like, am I just spray-painting a dick or something like that?

It really depends on what you're, like, if it's like some sort of slur, then, you know, then, then, again, you would have to like totally disown whoever did it.

Like, Sunday Jeff is up there spray the side of a post office with a slur.

He didn't know.

But Sunday Jeff was caught spray painting

Hanshot first or something.

I started doodling that the other day, so it's pretty likely he might spray paint it on the side of a wall.

You know, he was bored because of all this corona stuff.

He threw down a mic's hard lemonade.

So, Q, if you're caught multiple times driving on a suspended license.

I don't think anybody abandons me over that.

I think they're just like, yo, dickhead, like, get your act together.

Like, why would

I think anybody abandons me on that?

No.

Nor would I abandon someone of it.

I would not be like,

dude, we've been friends a long time, but you keep getting pulled over without a valid driving license.

Why do you keep doing this?

I mean, I have fucking a high tolerance for fuck-up friends.

I don't have like that thing where I'm just like, I got to get this person out of my license.

It takes a real big fucking.

It's not driving without a license.

Well, do you have a lot of fuck-up friends, though?

It seems like all your friends are kind of have everything going together, right

yeah but i but it wasn't always that way you know okay

all his other fuck-up friends abandoned him except for me

you're not a fuck-up friend you should write a book on how to live life you i know right

a real like like a manual almost i i mean it's a lot worse path than the one that you took minus the drug addiction is a lot worse yeah that part stunk but hey you know what everything that came out of it

or came after it was pretty decent you know

yeah fuck you man everything else could have happened

who knows yeah you just don't know uh so you could have been clear of head you could have not been hopped up by the goop balls you could have walked right into traffic that day right

I would have had so much money, I could have bought a house in cash, but

I might have gotten hit by a car.

Sunny side, bro.

Always on the sunny side.

Definitely.

Some light extortion.

Like you have information on a neighbor and you want a fence moved.

And if they don't move that fence, like it's just about a foot because you need to do something with your property.

You're going to release this information.

What is the nature of the information?

Let's say it's

a lady, she's having an affair with the milkman.

Do you guys know what?

Oh, so she's a bad person, too.

Yeah, she's not like

you don't know why she's doing it.

You assume that, you know, morally, if you're going to slap a moral judgment on her, yeah.

Technically, she's being she's doing something bad.

So hold on a second.

So she knows that I know that she's having an affair with the milkman or the mailman, but she still won't move that fence a fucking foot?

Well, no, the question is: like, if you go over there and you're like, hey, I saw a milkman

fucking,

you know, doing his thing.

So

this fence that you weren't willing to move before, how about you move it now?

And you have video, of course.

And then she's like, all right, I'm going to move the fence.

And then the husband's like, why'd you bow to him?

Just because he's a joker?

And she's like, no, you know, and then she tearfully confesses.

And now you're in trouble for extorting.

Is that really a crime?

Oh, yeah.

How is that a crime?

But when you say it is blatant.

I mean, that's pretty blatant.

But it's trouble.

No, that's not considered negotiation.

That's leverage.

Yeah, but

it's a threat.

It's tit-for-tat.

No,

but it's obtained through force, through like threats of force

of force.

Damage to someone's personal life.

Like, it's definitely not a business.

Yeah, Q's.

That's a real crime.

This blows my mind.

Yeah, like if Q are like, hey, if you move the fence, I'll invite you to every barbecue I have this summer.

Then that's a tit for tat.

Extortion is.

Isn't it the same thing?

No, because extortion is like, if you don't do what I want you to do, I'm going to affect your quality of life in a negative way.

But isn't that what your boss does?

Like, you know, like, let's say you have a boss.

Well, maybe Mike and Giddam's boss.

Right?

Yeah, because I think I'm like, if you don't fucking do this, there's going to be, it's going to be a fucking real bad day for you.

But you're giving him something.

No, but because you're giving them something already.

You're giving them money for them to perform a task.

And if they don't perform that task, you have every right as an employer to say, Look, we're going to sever this relationship because you're not doing what you promised to do after I promised to give you this money.

Right.

This lady's caught unawares.

This fucking piece of shit cue comes up and he's like, hey, I want to move that fence.

Remember that?

Yeah, but

I wouldn't say it like that.

You're screaming from across the fence.

Yeah, you'd have to knock on the door and be like, hey, Sandra.

Oh, hey, man, was that?

I was like, that was the milkman before that was here?

I was like, I waved to him, but he seemed like he didn't want me to see him.

Oh, well, next time you see him, did you just tell him I want a little extra thing of milk?

So, Sandra, I have to talk to you about something.

That fence, I know you really don't want to move it, but I was just hoping you could reconsider that.

You know what I mean?

Like, you drop the information

and you heavily imply

that, you know, it would be bad if, you know, if everybody knows what you know.

Right.

If people were to find out what you know.

Sure.

You let her come to her own conclusion on that.

But what could you do?

Like, could you just pay a fine?

Would that be?

That certainly wouldn't be jail time

if she reported you to the police about that, Would you?

Well, I mean, the mob is like you know, the mafia, that's what they're known for, is extortion.

Like, if you don't do this, then this is what's going to happen.

So, yeah, it's a crime, right?

But there's no way Q would have to do anything.

I mean, they wouldn't even take this in a court of law.

If it's like, what, the milkman in a fair and offense?

Get the fuck out of here.

I don't know.

I don't know, man.

They may.

It could be like a career maker.

It's Q.

It's not just some fucking idiot.

Oh, yeah.

But let's just say it's not Q.

Let's just say it's two

mundane, everyday Joes,

and they have this fence issue, and they use that

private information to get it done.

That would be a crime.

And you could go to court over that?

I would think so.

Yeah, I would think so.

I mean, if you have proof, if she has proof somehow, I mean, she can't just be like, hey, here's what he said.

She could.

Yeah, like if he emailed it, texted it, wrote a letter.

I would write that email.

I'd be like, look, man, if you don't move the fence, I'm going to tell everybody your secret.

That's called extortion.

And you wouldn't look very good.

Because the question isn't legally here.

The question is like, everyone finds out you're ready to ruin a family because you want your fence moved over a foot.

And you're willing to expose.

The TA would be like, what?

We're not not going to waste the fucking public, you know, any of the public dime and

services on this bullshit.

This is a fucking between two neighbors.

Just tit-for-tat.

All right.

I mean,

sure.

I would like to use the precedent for kid versus cat.

We all know how that turned out.

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So I don't think I would write off someone for extortion, but I would be like, dude, that is really fucking weird.

I mean, maybe.

If they're on the fence, sort of a scumbaggy person to begin with, I might be like, eh, I don't know.

Yeah, that would just push you.

Yeah.

It would cast them in a different light for you, Q?

It's like, if somebody that a good friend did it, I would be like, that is fucking, you shouldn't have done that.

Like, that's just dumb that you did that.

But I probably would hold on, you know, I probably wouldn't write off the friendship.

But if I was, if it was like, you know, like a third-tier friend or something like that, and it's the kind of skelly, I might be like, I can't trust this person in my life.

They're gathering information on people to use against them.

Oh, please, give me one more chance.

You don't respect ruthlessness, it sounds like.

Not in neighborly disputes.

No, I don't think

there's a cause for that.

It's tough, right?

Like, you don't want to be enemies with your neighbors.

You really don't.

No, no.

Not at all.

There's a great story.

If anyone's looking for something to listen to after they listen to us, of course, there's a Jim Brewer.

You can find it on YouTube.

He tells a story about this nightmarish neighbor

that moved in next to him.

It is insane.

You've never heard a story like this.

The story is like an hour long, but it's so good and just riveting.

You're like, this is fucking unbelievable.

Really?

Yeah, he got a restraining order at the end of it.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

I was going to listen.

Yeah, you should check it out.

So, extortion.

All right.

Next comes

swindler.

Somebody swindler.

What's the definition?

what's the definition well i guess someone who knowingly uh

invited investors into something knowing that they would lose money and he would gain money or his uh co-conspirators you know would gain money

did he at any point ask me to invest

he didn't

he didn't ask you

But Sal was boasting on the set one day about how he put everything to this guy.

Oh, he did it to one of my best friends.

Yeah, I would have to choose South side of that.

Well, see, let's not make it personal then.

Let's just say, like, he swindled, like, say it was a bunch of retirees, you know?

Oh, really?

Like, yeah, I don't know if I can.

No, no, no.

Let's say he swindled somebody who had the money and was super rich and super powerful and arrogant.

And he just devised a get-rich scheme plan and he pulled it off.

The guy he hurt or the corporation he hurt,

they can withstand it.

No big deal, no skin off their nose.

I could be friends with that guy.

I can't be friends with a guy who clears out old people.

Old people, yes, Suncoast, no.

Or wait, no, other way around.

Other way around.

We call those victimless crimes, right?

Victimless crimes, as there's one songpost left in the entire nation.

And it probably won't even survive this fucking corona

nightmare.

But what about, like, if I, what about if I take, like, let's say I got a clueless co-worker and I make a bet with him, and I make a bet on a football game, and he's so fucking stupid that he doesn't understand point spreads, and I, and I get like a sweet fucking point spread, and he doesn't realize that

his team can still win, and I will still win because he didn't, that team didn't cover the point spread.

That's not a swindle.

That's not a swindle.

That is just taking advantage of someone's ignorance, which many people would judge on sort of an ethical level.

But I don't think there's anything wrong with it.

I mean, people do it all the time.

Like, if somebody sees something on eBay or at a flea market, they're like, wow, they don't know what they have, almost universally, they'll buy it.

All right, but what if it's on the table of a little bitty old lady cleaning out her fucking deceased husband's belongings

and it's a bowling ball bag that she brings into the fucking store and there's a fucking sweet fucking pile of priceless comics in it?

Wait a minute.

Did I say

that was at a flea market?

No, that didn't happen.

What address did I give there?

I think it did happen though.

Was this if it did happen, was this the one that fucking Muse almost ruined the comics by coming all over them?

No, okay, that was a different one.

Okay.

No, this was some little lady who came in, and

you know, she brought a bowling bag in full of comics, and it was like a fucking some really, really good comics.

And we hooked her up with an auction house.

Oh, there we go.

She said she was going to give us some money, but we never heard from her again because we hooked her her up.

But she was like for helping her out.

She was going to come back and give us a little bit for our time and helping her out, but we never did hear from her again.

And that's why you should have fucking ripped her off.

No, no, man.

That's horrible, man.

You can't do that.

I'm okay with that.

What books or like were what were some of the values of these books?

She had like, you know, she had

the first appearance of Wolverine was in there.

I mean, there there was a lot of dogs there, too, but there's also like just that just in the pile was just a Hulk 181.

Oh, yeah.

And she had, she had, like, some, she had a first blade, Tuma Dracula, number 10.

And she had some real old issues, too.

And we just, we just gave her

the phone number and the email of an auction house that she would maximize her profits off of.

But she had no idea, though.

Now, was that swindling?

Or is that what would that be called?

if I didn't do that, though?

I don't know.

I think because she came to you for obviously for some sort of guidance, I would think that's kind of a scummy move.

But if you went to her garage sale and it was on the table for 50 cents and you bought it, I don't know.

I feel like she has the internet.

She could have done a research.

It's not on you to tell her what her shit's worth.

It's still, it's still, it's still in that gray area, though.

Like, I would hate to boast about that, though, even if I found it at a garage sale, sale, though.

Well, what's the difference aside from the location?

Either way, she doesn't know what it's worth.

Well, I mean, well,

with the understanding that you're the expert that can help her, and you're going to be honest with her.

Gotcha.

Well, that's her mistake.

Well,

look, I thought that's what the swindling was, though.

Like, I thought it was just a sweet, like, swindle stood for sweet deal.

No, I don't think that's the widely accepted definition.

I thought they just combined the word.

Sweet with the Latin indel.

Indel meaning deal.

Yeah, I think swindle is more of a like

trickery, like taking advantage, maybe taking advantage.

Or like what that, what that was, if you had

bought the books that's not really swindling as much as just like taking advantage of her gotcha

you know which i guess is not a crime but i guess it's promising something that you know you're not going to be able to deliver and accepting people's money for it is more of a swindle but what if you said okay look and you know that the that first appearance wolverine's in there And you say to her, look, I'll give you 300 bucks for the whole lot.

However, I got to tell you, you probably got things in there that are worth worth more than that.

And if you take the time to go somewhere, you'll get more.

But I'll give you 300 right now for it.

Is that

morally correct way to do that?

I would think so.

I mean,

I'm always, ever since Compliment started, even before that, that really didn't happen all that often, but I was always like, I always...

approached every person who walked in with

a pile of comics as if they were like um who was that dude from Dateline that was always catching fucking molestations?

Chris Hansen.

Chris Hansen.

Yeah.

I always thought that there was a Chris Hansen gotcha

going on when someone would come in.

So I always treated everybody with 100% accuracy and

because I didn't want to get that gotcha.

I didn't want to get on Dateline.

They're like, we're doing a blistering expose on neighborhood comic book stores and if they rip off old ladies.

I mean, I remember seeing those kind of things when it's like it affects a lot of people, like fake oil changes or like people are bottling up water that isn't spring water and selling it as

shame on you.

Remember, the shame on you on CBS?

Shame, shame, shame.

Yeah, I never wanted to be caught in that position where, you know, that I'd be on TV getting shamed.

Getting shamed?

Oh, nobody likes that.

Would they be allowed to do it, though?

You can't shame anybody for anything.

If I'm like, hey, man, fucking grandma grandma should have had her wits about her.

It's my fault she's fucking Alzheimer's.

You're a lot, my friend, in 2021.

Oh,

I'm the type that, yes,

free reign on shaming.

That's true.

That's true.

So what was it next?

I just got a couple more.

Q, I feel like I know how you feel that we would feel about this one, but

the neighbor's dog just will not stop barking regardless of how many times you talk to the neighbor.

They're just that, those people.

They don't care.

Dogs barking all night.

Dogs barking all day.

Give a little bit of poison bait to them.

You know, a little poison meat just to shut them up for good.

Is that the kind of person you'd be around?

That's one of the unforgivables for me.

Unforgivable, huh?

Completely.

I don't care who it is either.

I would be like, dude, I can't.

You're a monster.

Like, I just can't have you in my life.

He's like, You want to stop barking?

Yeah, that's a tough one.

Because you're like, What a fucking lunatic this person is.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's like you almost feel like, well, should I report him or should I just not be his friend?

Like, what's my move here?

Did you guys like you?

Now you brought up the Suncoast thing.

Did you guys ever sit?

Like, you could be honest now, because, you know,

that was a point in my life when I was at my lowest.

Did you guys ever question like I was being a jerk off doing it?

Wow.

I think of all the low points in my life.

Some even today.

Some today as recent as today.

And they

weren't as high as that.

Did you guys ever sit there and go like, man, this guy's a real asshole for doing this?

Not once.

Not even once.

Oh, you you should have, though, right?

I mean, it was wrong.

You know, my morals, you know the type of person I am.

If you expected me to fucking finger wag, that's on you.

I wish somebody had, though.

You know, maybe somebody had just let Grammy and smacked some sense into me.

Like, this is wrong.

You're better than this.

See, I never thought, though.

I never thought that

you don't need to do this.

Well, you weren't, though.

Sunday Jeff was.

If we're going to think less of anyone, it would be him.

Because really, he was like, he was the cog.

He was, you know, Hitler is the guy who's like, hey, round up the Jews.

And everybody did it.

So Sunday Jeff, you know, you're like, hey, go fucking take down Suncoast one figure at a time.

But you were very like, you were very extremely.

Look, I don't know.

It's the same.

It really is the same conundrum as like a man steals a loaf of bread for his starving families.

Oh, no, you cannot use that as the

analogy.

I know.

I'm saying, though, at the time, that was your mindset.

You're like, I have to do anything within my means to make sure the store survives.

Not only survives, but thrives.

That's how I justified it, though.

But it's still in my head.

That's how I could go to sleep at night.

But,

I mean, it was.

It really wasn't necessary, though, probably.

No.

You're like, how much money did that really bring in oh thousands

yeah well that it was necessary it was a goddamn mint it was a gold mine i tell you

oh thousands and like i mean i'm not going to say ten thousand but i would say somewhere in between four

and six thousand probably a year

yeah

i mean that's good

Everybody grows, though, you know, and I'm just proof that, you know, you could, you can turn your life around.

Well, it's because it's not possible anymore, yeah.

It's not even possible to do it anymore, so it's not like you changed, the system changed, right?

I like to like paint a like paint a better picture than I was forced to stop rather than I chose to stop.

I'll cut that part out then

before we get to the uh, to the last thing, because I found this one pretty interesting.

Uh, Let's see.

This is policy genius insurance policies.

Oh, here you go.

This is right in theme.

There are things we look back on and think, how did I get it so wrong?

It might be wearing multiple polo shirts, popping all the collars, donating to Coney 2012, or dating that one person that one time.

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Okay.

So

this last one, I know, Walt, you probably have heard of this guy.

It was a dude.

It was like this Christian puppeteer who planned to kill and eat children.

Yeah.

Do you remember this guy, Ronald William Brown?

He was this ventriloquist puppeteer on this TV show that was on like this Christian TV network.

No.

Yeah, this was.

Yeah, yeah, this was.

What year was this?

Hmm.

Let me see if I can find it.

2017

is when this article is from.

So I think it was sometime from 2010, from 2010 until then, I believe.

Maybe I'll find it.

It says he first.

So Waves, are you asking us if we would distance ourselves from somebody who attempted to kill a child?

Well, no, the thing about this, he didn't attempt anything.

It was just talk.

It was like, remember that cop?

There was the cannibal cop.

The cannibal cop.

It was basically the same kind of thing.

Now, with this guy, they did find pictures, like weird, disgusting pictures

and, you know, lewd, obviously.

Oh, Largo, Largo, Florida.

This is where this happened.

So they did find, like, some porn pictures pictures and shit.

But my question was: if they're just talking about it, and it's horrific.

The cannibal cop or this kind of stuff, like you know, cooking kids.

You're not going to, you know, you can assume they're not going to really do it, but

maybe they will.

I don't want that person in my life.

That's fucked up.

So, no,

what was that?

The

like that fiction, like that Joker's fiction, fan fiction?

Yeah, it would, it would not just why are you even thinking about that?

I mean, I

yeah, that's like why this is a no-brainer.

Like, I don't even know, like, why'd you go with something more like, how about planning a bank robbery, though?

You never do it, but you fantasize about it.

Could you keep that person in your life?

Oh, absolutely.

If I found out somebody planned it or executed it.

No, no, they just they just always talked about it.

They had the perfect plan in place.

You know, could you

would you be able to just a lot justify being friends with that person then

for bank robbery?

Yeah,

yeah, I mean federal offense

sure, but I mean, what is what is the plan, though?

Is he

gonna kill people?

Yeah, that is gonna every bank teller in the place.

It's the only way you're gonna win, because God freak you.

No witnesses.

Has he not explained this to you already?

I guess I should have known that.

No, no,

he's the gentlemanly bank robber.

Oh, I'm friends with that guy.

Like George Clooney in what was that movie with J-Lo?

God damn it.

Out of sight.

Out of sight.

Yeah, I'm friends with that guy.

Really?

Yeah, that's interesting, dude.

That guy's got stories I want to hear.

And is he not capable of redemption, too?

Because it's the same thing, the same reason we would be friends with you.

It's like he's stealing something that doesn't belong to him.

You're right.

Holy shit.

I'm like a bank robber.

Pretty much.

Yeah, you're the gentleman bandit.

So Q, you're saying that if like they, somebody got a hold of my hard drive and I was

I was doing some fantasy talk about decapitating some kids and cooking them up for dinner.

No pass?

It's you?

And I'm like, dude, I was just fucking around, I swear.

If it's you, who are you talking to?

Is it you and Marybeth texting each other weird shit

like this?

Or is it you talking to some anonymous dude on the internet?

I mean, I know what you're going to say to both.

The anonymous dude seems much more sinister.

It really does, because with Marybeth, I could at at least be like, hey, man, look, fucking talk is cheap when it comes to sex.

Whatever they want to talk about, go ahead.

It don't mean nothing to me.

They could just be tired of Sage.

Who knows?

Yeah, right.

Like, all right, I can deal with this.

But, like, just some dude on the internet that turns out to be the FBI, I might be like, well, it's you, so I'm not going to not be your friend, but I'm going to be like, that's fucking weird.

You got to stop talking about that.

Like, you can't make it this hard for me to fucking be your friend, dude.

It's like you're going out of your way.

Yeah, come on, man.

Last week you're talking about bank robberies, and this week you're talking about cannibalizing kids.

But I think you would get a pass on it.

It would take a lot.

Like, either one of you guys would have to do a lot for me to

do it.

It would have to involve murdering kids or

severe animal cruelty.

Yeah, I think so.

Other than that, I think, even if I found out you like killed somebody, I would still be your friend.

Like, what the fuck do you do that for?

And how the fuck are we going to cover this up now, you fucking idiot?

You totally fucked this up.

I don't have a bowel ready.

I don't have any live.

You're going to dig the hole.

You're digging the hole.

Yeah, it would be like that, I think.

I don't know.

I don't know.

Is there anything else to talk about?

Hey, Lori Laughlin, Walt.

I saw some.

You remember her?

Oh, there's another criminal, right?

Oh, my gosh.

Why?

Can't we fucking just throw her away and like lock her up and throw away the key already?

My God, she's a danger to society.

She needs to get her off the streets.

I saw pictures recently of

the pictures that they sent in of her daughters on the rowing machine showing

how great they are at rowing and how much they belong on that rowing team.

They said, but I think she's like, she's so...

She's being so obtuse about everything and just so obstinate that I think that she is going to get in trouble.

Like, because this shit is definitely like for people that are having trials now, this could help them.

But hers isn't until November.

And if she keeps up her bullshit, man, I think they're going to give her time.

Because they gave the other lady time and she was totally cooperative.

Right.

Now, Q

Lori Lachlan has had friends drop her for committing this crime.

Yeah.

So, I mean, there's precedent set that, like, I mean, celebrity friends have have a much, you know, shorter leash that, you know, or like whatever, what's it called?

Well, like, you know,

you can't put up with as much as a non-celebrity could put up with.

Because it then affects your, it affects your life then.

Yeah, maybe, I guess, but probably anyway.

Are you thinking about even one of Lori Lachlan's friends right now?

Would you even know one?

No.

Like, if I heard that George Clooney was out with having dinner with Lori Lochran, I wouldn't be like, Clooney's an asshole.

Like, oh, I wonder what that fucking relationship is.

But a lot of people would be, though.

Yeah.

Yeah, like, if George Clooney was out to dinner with Jared from Subway, then I'm like, wow, that's fucking crazy.

Then I might be like, that is fucked up.

I don't know if I want to see Ocean 15 now.

And I am, I mean,

go ahead.

Well,

no, as I said,

you got to treat anybody that could harm you in your public life.

You got to treat them like what's it called?

Personal grato, gratifying grato, yeah.

Well, if I was going to do that, Tom Lee Dave wouldn't have gotten it.

They take risks with this show, man.