#372: King of Swing

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While BQ lights up the silver screen with his matinee idol looks, Bry and Walt talk to the legendary Ming Chen and play a new game with him. Music: Dave Wimer - Daisies and Razor Blades

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I mean, that reminds me of the word rim job, so uh, I I I'm gonna go in that direction.

Um, he's easily distracted, mostly by LEDs.

What would you have to offer her about gynecology?

Tell him, Steve, Dave.

Hello, and welcome to this week's edition of Tell him Steve Dave.

I got Walt Flanagan here, but BQ is off a while.

That's right.

Star of the Silver Screen.

He's going to be gone for quite a bit, a long time, too,

I fear.

Yeah.

You think he'll ever come back?

What if he doesn't come back?

I think he'll come back.

It'll be like when

Richie came back to Happy Days.

And then, you know, it was a special event when he came back.

So it won't be like Chuck, where he just never came back.

He disappeared and was never seen again.

But, I mean, I think we've come up with a pretty good

way to

handle BQ's absence while he's out filming.

It was a good idea.

You're like, let's just fill his seat with lessers.

But I mean, our idea, with TSD taking lemons and turning them into lemonade, we're going to have

special TSD

alumni sit in every week that

Q is gone.

And I know people are going, oh, come on, we've heard enough of Giddem and we've heard enough of Sunday Jeff.

That's why we're no more pulling them in.

There's someone who you will rarely catch on a podcast here.

Someone who there's no way you've had enough of them.

You love them so much you want them to sign your shit twice.

Ladies and gentlemen, meet Chen.

Hello.

Hello, everybody.

Welcome to Tell'em Steve Dave.

Wow.

It's been a while, guys.

It has.

I mean, that's what I was thinking, too, when I asked you.

I was like, like, what better way to kick off this cavalcade of Tell him Steve Dave guest stars to sit in for BQ than with a guy who was there at the very beginning and who has really

left us behind and has

put his explanation.

There's a lot of mics behind.

So you guys will never leave me behind.

You guys will never leave me behind.

Well, you've left us behind.

I wouldn't say that.

It just, you know, I got busier.

And you embarked in a couple of endeavors, but I will always be here the moment that you text or call me.

I'll always rush back here.

Well,

that's definitely appreciated.

And like I said, I wanted the first person to sit in BQ's chair to be a guy who was there at the beginning and who was there who I think was a very

important part of

our podcast.

being liked and being well received.

I believe he was

a

huge part of the appeal

in those early years.

For all the damage Gidam did,

Ming kind of repaired.

Well,

he was there before Gidem.

Ming was, yeah, yeah.

That's a lot of damage, guys.

That's a lot of damage to repair.

There's no way you're going to repair all of that damage.

Yeah, Ming was there in the beginning and started with ISO Comics, right?

I did, yes.

Started with ISOL Comics, went into the Mike and Ming show, Puck Nuts,

the Smorning Show you did for a long time.

I did, yeah.

Held that torch for a while.

That's some dues.

That's what I mean.

Like, yeah, he paid dues for all of us, pretty much.

Yeah, I mean,

he's equaled the amount of time that we've done it, I think, with all his other bullshit.

You know, and by bullshit, I mean the labor of life.

Yeah, was it as meaningless or meaningful?

I mean, I don't know.

But, you know, I definitely put in some hours, though.

Yeah.

What do you think

drew you to?

Oh, my God.

we should never do this with the store open nor with anyone else here.

It's the fucking kids and shit.

What drew you to it?

Because like podcasting?

Yeah, like well no no no.

I mean I know why you started, but like what drew you in so hard and so deep.

I think it was when I when I went to high school and for most of college I didn't say anything.

I was I was more or less mute.

I didn't think well I uh I didn't think anyone cared about what I had to say.

And I found out later on in life it was true.

But yeah.

But you won't stop saying it now.

I won't stop saying it.

And now I have a venue, a medium to express all my bullshit.

And

some people, by the virtue of whether a TV show or associated with you guys, will actually listen.

So

it's great.

But yeah,

I think it was

all these pent-up opinions or just

wanting to say something.

Did you have a lot of opinions in high school you didn't get to voice?

I think so.

I was afraid of what I was afraid of sounding stupid.

And again, later on, I found out I was correct.

No, then you found a partner where you're like, as stupid as I sound.

He's going to sound stupid.

Pretty much by the way.

Pretty much.

Yeah.

So if you get, yeah, that's a trick, ladies and gentlemen.

Find someone who sounds stupider than you, and you will sound awesome.

And then you go into business with them.

Yeah.

Got your own podcast studio.

Yeah.

He's an industrialist right here.

He's a part owner of a comic book store.

Did you mention that?

No, not yet.

Yeah.

Not only if you opened up a podcast studio, now you're part owner of a comic book store in what state?

It's in Houston, Texas.

Houston, Texas.

So you don't get much time to spend out there monitoring your store.

What kind of a store owner are you?

Are you hands-on?

I don't know how hands-on you can be.

I'm not that hands-on.

I'm contributing.

Contributing, but yeah, it's an ogre.

I'm not

at all.

There's someone else here.

You see the staff, and let's say the staff is like

texting on their phone.

Yeah, they're lackadaisical.

Or they're trying to catch Pokemon.

How would you handle it?

Come on, something just happens.

You walk in.

It's exactly this.

Yeah, this is this.

Because that's what I, I mean, now I'm not the owner, but I run the place.

So when I see, so I see Ginim playing Pokemon,

I gotta crack the whip.

How do you crack the whip?

It's tough cracking whips against people you don't see every day.

But that would make it easier.

I know, but I've been told I...

You're going to see that person again.

Lash into him.

Yeah, lay into him.

Like, just...

So

he's going to lash into him and then fire him?

No, don't fire him.

Don't fire him.

I mean, ask him how many times I've just laid into him.

Oh, we've seen it.

Screaming.

I've seen it.

And, you know, and some, you know, for the most part, you know, it works.

Yeah.

Ming just needs to cow people.

Yeah, five foot four Asian.

You know, I can be a.

Plus,

your reputation of being very nice procedures.

Yeah.

That would be a shocker, though.

Like, if you, like, you have an employee there and

like you

come in and then, and you just freak out yeah on them screaming throwing stuff full john mcinroe at the yeah i think you'd get results you're probably right yeah i think you'd see because people would be terrified you're probably right

but i did not expect that like at all you know it's even easier to just hire good people that don't screw up that often and so you don't have to lay into them like that i'm just you know maybe just a suggestion to you walter yeah or you know um you could you could just tell a manager because i wouldn't want to do it either yeah like i wouldn't want to let into people.

Yeah.

It would annoy me, and I might say something that's like, what are you doing?

Yeah.

Yeah,

we've got management.

We've got people who handle things like that.

I'm very over.

You're CEO.

You're up there.

You're not a

general got boots on the ground.

Yeah, the general doesn't engage in battle.

General stands in the table.

Is Mike's Ringer or a TV show?

No, that's Mike's Ringer, Wonder Woman.

Who do you think that?

Who could that be, Brian?

Who could that be?

I don't know.

I would like to say his wife, but I know he's a mistress.

Yeah.

or several of them, perhaps.

He's a man about town.

He's

struts all over Broad Street with those Jesus sandals and those acid wash jeans.

He does.

I think he's on that blue pill now.

Oh, yeah.

So he just has an erection all day.

All the time.

Catholic school gets out.

Hello, ladies.

Yeah, nice skirts you wear in there.

Those are below-the-fingertip rule.

Would you have to separate your business dealings if Mike started flirting with high school girls?

Oh, I think

all the the flirtations.

It's not like mentioning their skirts.

He's just like, hey, girls.

It would be very unlike him.

Just all of a sudden, overnight, because that's very unlike him.

But overnight.

Would Ming separate his business dealings with Mike if

Mike started flirting with the RBC girls?

But like, not hardcore, just like, hey, girls.

How did this come out?

I don't know.

Yeah, we have no idea.

I thought you were talking about it.

Leave the table for three seconds.

All right, so

how is the Coral Sword going very well?

How many months it's been open now?

It's been open since late January, so about three months ago.

It's been closing in on about four months.

Yeah, about four months.

Doing very well.

Yeah.

Doing very well.

Every table is full.

Did you tell Brian it's co-owned by?

It's co-owned by a left fielder for the San Francisco Giants.

Active, right?

Active, Hunter Pence.

Yeah, he's a Major League Baseball player.

Hunter Pence.

How the hell does he find time to manage the place if he's

playing baseball?

You know, the way most people can just kind of internet stuff in now.

Oh, so he watches like you have cameras set up and he went.

There are cameras in there.

I don't think he's watching.

He's just, you know, he's calling in like I do.

Like, hey, everything going all right?

Okay.

All right, good.

Thanks.

You know, I'll call you in a week.

Who's the day-to-day manager there?

We have a couple guys.

We have a guy who runs the, he runs four of the best coffee houses in Texas.

And his name's David Bure.

He knows what he's doing.

We have people who know what they're doing.

Him and our partner, Sam.

What is that to say?

We don't have people here that know what they're doing.

Is that a.

No, no, not at all.

The David of that store would be the wall flag of the store.

Who's the kiddo of the store?

Who's the get him of the store?

There's no girl.

If there was a get him, it would be.

Come on.

That's what you'd be freaking out.

Yeah.

Should there be a get him of any store?

No.

I know you guys don't buy it.

I've seen him work very hard in here, though.

I just don't.

Get him.

Get him?

When you get it.

But you got to ride him like an ox.

Sure.

You give him a simple test.

Oh, and he'll accomplish Birdie.

You literally have to arrive, you have to be like on top of him.

He's easily distracted, mostly by LEDs.

Whether they're in his headlights,

on those little lights that he uses for under the counter, any number of lights.

He is the most obsessed person I've ever seen with lights.

Yes.

I've noticed.

He's fascinated by lighting.

He loves it.

The irony is his house does not have electricity or lighting.

All right, so there's no get him at the Coral Snow.

No, everyone, you know, we.

Everybody's

a very good employee.

Everybody's on, okay.

Yeah, they've either had history.

These are the special programs we're hiring under.

Yeah.

So, yeah, everyone's been pretty great.

What's Hunter Pence?

Hunter Pence, yeah.

So he comes to you and he's like, man, I got to talk to you.

Like, one of the employees has been tapping the till a little bit.

He's like, I want to take him down to the basement.

A little bit?

I want to take him down to the basement and teach him a lesson.

Yeah.

Are you in?

Yeah, I mean,

if he wants me to go, and

he has one of his maple baseball baseball bats from the San Francisco Giants.

Who's a more, what's it called, a more controlling,

not controlling, but who's a more, who has more?

More stake?

Yeah, who's got more stake?

Oh, him, definitely.

Oh, he does.

You mean the multi-millionaire?

Yeah, yeah.

Or the guy who pays to go to cons.

He's not wrong.

He's not wrong.

I don't need to mention numbers, but

his last contract is very public.

Right, right.

I understand, but what's the controlling aspect?

Would you be comfortable giving a breakdown to to like percentage-wise?

It's all equal.

Yeah, it's five partners.

Oh, there's five partners?

There's five, yeah.

Okay.

Wow.

So, you 20% each?

Yes.

Wow.

So you are an equal owner.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So he's counterpence then.

Yeah, you're right.

Again, yeah, well, he's not, he's not like

a controlling aspect.

You've got to be afraid of him, anyway.

He may or may not put like most, if not all, the money into it.

Tell him you want to hire get him.

Tell him that there's no if, ands, or buts.

I got a guy.

My first order of business as equal partner in Coral Sword is to hire this guy from Jersey that's consistently.

No, no, no.

Because Walt needs his get him.

So what you're going to do is you're going to hire his Mexican equivalent.

They'll get him.

It's right in Houston.

It's right over the border.

I know you don't drink lattes, but you know, like, I always post those photos of the fancy art and shit on it.

Can get him do that?

If he can do that, he's got to be.

Oh, so you're telling me it's not just about running the comic side

of the store?

You got the coffee side.

What's the biggest

important facet of the store?

Is it the coffee?

It would be the coffee, yes.

Really?

That's what keeps the place afloat, the coffee.

The first word is cafe, yes.

Coffee.

I thought coral was the first word.

It is.

I mean, you know, when we describe the place.

Gaming comics.

Coffee, comics.

Coffee, games.

Comic.

So comics are a distant third, then.

It is a third, yes.

So gaming is, was it like 50% coffee and then 25% gaming, 25%?

Probably more 30% to 35% gaming.

And then

comics.

It's a rough comic world.

It is, yeah.

You know, it's, you know, you get a lot of competition.

You got your Amazons trying to

comitologies, your digitals.

It's a tough world.

You got to

get up extra early and be the hardest worker

when you're in the comics world.

I think I heard that on an audible book I was listening to this week.

Good lord, if the guy says playability one more time, I'm going to jump out a goddamn window.

Isn't there a way you could motivate, get him with LEDs?

Like you could marry the two.

Like maybe you get some kind of sign on it.

Like a neon carrot on a stick.

Yeah.

Scrolling sign that says, you know, like work, you know, like I don't yeah, I guess I shouldn't say this, but like hard work will set you free.

That's

not our best.

I take that back.

I'm not going to say that that's bad.

I'll say it for you.

I don't have a stake in a coral sword.

Wow, all right.

So

you got a successful,

you launched a successful comic book store.

I have.

And now your other launch is uh a podcast studio.

Yeah.

Yeah, an unlikely, maybe not so unlikely, but one that that I didn't know if it would work or not.

It it's never been done before.

Word on the street is you uh you needed to expand recently.

We did, yeah.

We uh we started with one office and uh one studio.

We've expanded to two.

What's the name of the place again?

It's called A Shared Universe.

You got a website?

Yes, hshareduniverse.com.

How'd you come up with that name?

Mike came up with it.

With

the the whole comic book world.

You share universes, crossovers and

Iron Man fighting along Thor.

They have their own universes.

Because I thought that it was total share-themed, like the singer.

If I could turn back time.

Yeah, like everything.

You're like, we're going to share the shit out of this place.

I did not realize

that was the name of the significance of the name.

I didn't realize it was about.

You never cared enough to ask it.

I don't know why, but I assumed it was just like we're going to share, you're going to share your knowledge.

I thought it might like your podcast.

That's part of it.

It's got many meetings and then, you know, podcasting.

Multiple meetings.

Podcasting, everyone's got their own little podcast universes.

So everyone comes together at our studio to share them.

Are there any people that come in and you're like,

I'll take your money?

I could have named names.

I'm not going to name names, but I can't.

You don't have to name names, but this early in the game.

Excluding Mike.

Yeah.

And his wife.

It's early in the game.

Yeah, I'm not going to start alienating

our customer base

three months in.

You're a businessman.

It's going to happen, though.

We welcome everybody, but some people.

Did you take any business courses in schools?

Because that's very smart.

What you just said there.

You're not going to alienate your customers.

We haven't learned that.

I'm still trying to tell Brian out.

We can't alienate our customers, our listeners.

Well, I didn't go to a fancy college like that.

He did, so how the fuck am I supposed to retain that shit?

Yeah, I didn't take any business courses.

I just, you know, from being out in the retail world, from being here, I've learned a lot from you, for sure.

Thank you.

But I think that goes to show

a lot of listeners who are listening to this that you don't need to take business courses.

And here's, you're talking to

a guy right now who didn't take a business course and has two businesses now.

Yeah.

I mean, right?

I mean, that shows you that, you know,

you can put all that money in.

All that sweat equity is what matters.

it's all about hard work don't worry about the basics of business pliability it's about you know being this being the hardest worker in the room touchdowns yeah just keep saying that kind of stuff yeah 110

yeah go all out give it our all there are a lot of you got to outwork your your opposition right you got to outthink them and it's not just about strength it's about intelligence and mostly pliability pliability everybody pliability is the word of the day

and don't eat strawberries or tomatoes yeah no nightshades manga you know You eat a lot of tomatoes?

I eat a lot of everything.

If you follow me online, you see I eat a lot of everything.

How do you?

I'm generally

curious as to how you could possibly enjoy half the shit you do that I see you doing on Instagram.

You're like, hey, I'm with this person in New York having drinks.

And it's like an all-day thing where you're like pub crawling.

And then the next day, you're with someone else doing something similar, but like having just as much fun.

How can I maintain that?

It's with somebody else.

No, how can I?

I know you only have like, I guess, I know you have like two friends, so you know, you can't

know that kind of enjoyment.

Atlanta, yeah, I.

But you genuinely enjoy it.

Absolutely, yeah.

We were at Harrisburg, I think.

We did a Con in Harrisburg.

We did do a Conn Harrisburg.

It was

a farm show complex.

So we went in there and the whole thing.

We sold every bit, the farm.

Yeah, let's go ahead and push it.

And where we did our panel is where they marched the animals up for the auction.

Oh, really?

This is Bessie the the Bull, number 63.

Can I take bids?

That's where we did our panel.

Nice.

Was it a, I mean, does it, does it matter, or was it a successful con?

Did it matter that it was in a farmhouse?

We got a guarantee.

So, any con we have a guarantee that's a successful connection.

Yeah, well, it's only a matter of two people show up.

Yeah, we got paid in the end, thank God.

And then the next year they did it, and it was in an abandoned.

Yeah, that was our payment.

Next year, they did the same kind.

They didn't use a farm show complex, it was in an abandoned mall that they did.

Really?

Yeah, so needed to say,

Very dicey to begin with.

Year three is not going to happen.

Oh, you don't think so?

No, no, it's official.

There's no year three.

So

you killed a con?

We didn't kill it.

No, I think the thing that killed the con was the promoter, I won't mention his name, cheated on his wife, and she went on his Facebook and told everybody.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

And that's enough to get people to not want to go to a concert.

That's a lot of drama to deal with.

Sure.

It's a lot of drama to deal with.

There are a lot of

soap opera-esque.

There's a lot of stuff, yes.

On the concert.

I think I can tell you where there's none.

Once you go from your table, run to your hotel room as fast as you can after the con ends, and just hide until the next day.

That's it.

That's me.

I don't see any drama.

Oh, you're causing your own drama.

Yeah.

I got plenty of drama in my room by myself.

I don't get outside parties.

Drama right now, bro.

I know, I know.

And that's why we're here.

Too much.

It's why we're here.

So what are your plans then for Shared Universe?

Like when you and Mike

talked about it.

Five-year plan is to hopefully open these up in every major city.

Really?

I think there's a need to.

A Kirk-Paris?

Are they in every city?

Why would you not use not a store that's like two doors down from everybody?

Like a Gap or

Applebee's, man, like in every city.

Or something that's not a dying industry.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Your friendly neighborhood podcast studio?

Yeah, listen to that.

I mentioned Applebee's.

Could you steal that from Applebee's?

Don't mention Applebee's?

I'm not stealing anything from Applebee's.

Applebee's sucks.

That's not very business-like.

What if Applebee's wants to do a podcast on a shared universe?

Oh, yeah, or advertising.

Which is more likely.

Mr.

Applebee would like to do a podcast.

No, maybe not Applebee's.

I think one in every major city would be cool.

What's a major city do you have?

Chicago, L.A., San Francisco, Seattle, New York City, definitely.

London.

Beijing.

International.

Tokyo.

Sure.

Why not?

I think, yeah, there's a yearn for podcasting everywhere.

I feel like.

Ivory Coast.

Now you're getting a little niche, but yeah.

Yeah, I've asked you.

That's a big dream, man.

You know what?

I've read, though, that you got to dream big, and you fight for your dreams, and you don't let anybody try to tear your dreams down.

Yeah.

Again, that's TB12.

Okay.

I was struggling.

Like, where could he have hurt that?

Where are you guys pulling this from?

I'm reading the Tom Brady book.

He's got a book?

And does he read it?

Are you reading

the audible version, audible.com/slash FTV?

I have the PDF that Giddam got me, and I also brought the audio book too.

And does he read it?

Yeah.

Oh, he's in Washington.

Okay.

Tell me in that, not the intro, but in the second part, you're like, can he use the word pliability anymore?

I got it because Walt's like, yeah, you should read it.

And I was like, so I got the audible version.

And I was like, all right, I'll check this out.

And I listened to the first chapter today.

I was like, wow, he likes that word.

It truly believes in it, I guess, because he won't stop talking about it.

All right.

Pliability.

I think, and I also believe, I don't know if maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I believe he means not just physically pliability.

Mentally pliable.

Yes.

Right.

Well, that's not good, though.

Aren't you supposed to be mentally strong, not like bending to the will of whoever's talking to you?

Flexible.

He probably does mean that because he's trying to.

You can't be so rigid in your ways that you can't see an alternate route to success, like Ming did.

Right.

Yeah, he's like, I don't have talent

or education.

Yeah.

No.

So,

you know, rest on our body.

I don't know where this path leads.

Playability, everybody.

Just remain pliable.

You don't need fancy degrees.

You don't need startup capital.

Just be pliable.

You just need to know a famous director and a famous baseball player.

Yeah.

And it'll all work out for you, ladies and gentlemen.

You can get yourself on TV, you know,

and it'll all work out for you.

And this all stems from, in case anyone listening doesn't know by now, I can't imagine that, but you designed a website just because you were a fan of Clerks back in 94.

Yeah, well, this is a guy who's like, Guess what?

My name is really Cliff.

You don't say for anybody who doesn't know, yeah, I designed a website in 95, 1995 after I saw the movie Clerks.

Kevin saw it, gave me a call, and that's uh, that led me all the way to here.

Yeah, so you never know, that's what

you never know what little thing you're going to do.

He's going to capture some of the things that's what Debbie Jenny says.

Got two kids out of it, ladies and gentlemen.

But you never know what.

If anybody listen out there, you never know what you could do or show somebody.

You never know what it could branch off into.

It could take off, yeah.

You know, I mean, the odds are, I mean, you're in a one-in-million story.

You're like Rocky Balboa, basically.

I mean, it's unlikely that it'll ever happen, but you never know, though, to another person in that same route.

It's more like, come here, I'll show you a real woman.

Clubber Lang.

You want to get with a real man?

Yeah,

like, come here, come here, woman.

Not often do I hear you imitating Clubber Lang, and I believe I want to hear more of it, but there's probably one more.

The one moment you're about to end your own career by doing Clubber Lang imitations.

Yeah, if you want more,

you can come to Shared Universe.

We'll do all the Mr.

T imitations you want.

So what does someone get with

the Shared Universe package?

Let's say somebody wants to go in and do a podcast.

What kind of, what do you do from

a couple packages?

I don't want this to sound boring, but you know what?

I'm talking about you and my crew.

If you come in, if you need, if you know what you're doing, what's the bare bones?

Bare bones, $25 an hour.

If If you know what you're doing, you know how to record a podcast, but you just need the gear.

And a nice studio, I think.

I was there last week.

That's very reasonable, $25 an hour.

Or, you know, let's say you record at home, but you don't want guests to come over to your house.

It's like, all right, we'll meet at a neutral location where they have all the gear.

$25 an hour.

What was that?

That was the second option?

No, that's still the same.

Should it be the same option?

Okay.

Yeah.

So base price is a little bit more.

He's saying different reasons.

Oh, different reasons why you don't want to do it at home.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Some people want to have guests on their podcast, but they don't want people coming to their house.

And you can meet at a neutral location, which is our studio.

Gotcha.

And do you guys do video?

We do video.

Yeah, we were doing Facebook Live, or we can record it, too, if you want.

Where do you draw the line on what people are doing?

I know where you're going with this already.

You know, that's a great question.

T-rated.

I haven't drawn any lines yet.

You haven't had to draw any lines yet.

No, I hope you're not.

But you might have to, right?

You realize that there is, you might have to, at some point, be like, what is this good for the shared universe brand name?

Sure, yeah, it's come close, sure.

It's come close, it's come close.

Yeah, so you know, maybe some raunchy topics that I was like, whoa, this is real.

Can you give like without giving away names of like you had to put the kibosh on it?

What was the topic?

I haven't put the kibosh, but you know, we have a couple podcasts that come in.

Maybe they're a little more, you know, they talk a little more street.

Mike, where'd you get that toddler?

I'm not sure if this is the route for the shared universe, but wait a minute.

They may talk a little more street.

What does that mean?

They may use terms that, you know,

racist terms.

Oh, really?

Well, you know, I got a game coming up that I think may put you to the test in terms of maybe you might have to put the kibosh on.

I didn't know you were so puritan.

You so woke and shit.

Yeah.

I mean, it's not, I mean, it's, it's, it's raunchy, but it's not.

But wait, you're saying it was a racist podcast?

It's not race.

Well, it depends on who's saying it.

Correct.

So, you know, so what did Mike say?

You know, Mike don't like black people.

I'm just going to come on and say it.

If you didn't know already.

Well, that would be a turnoff.

I wouldn't like that either.

That didn't sound like a joke.

You should make sure you like that.

Mike loves black people.

That sounded even less serious.

Yeah, that would be...

On one hand, you want to be like, hey, people can say what they want, but then to be associated with somebody who's saying weird shit like that.

Yeah, yeah.

Because do you put after every podcast that you guys do

at your studio, this was a shared universe podcast?

No, we don't, not yet.

I mean, we may have to do that, but you know, it's that for anyone who comes in, it's your show.

You know, we try to.

All right, so you're not attached to it in terms of, like, if things go south for that, for that particular podcast, your name isn't going to be dragged through the mud to that.

And everyone signs a documentary.

You own your property.

You got legal documents?

I had to julie react to it.

Sure.

She did not take it off, ladies and gentlemen.

Who drew up your legal documents?

I found them online, and I went through them and just made it.

Is there anything this guy can't do?

got to consider that maybe.

Since we're going to have rotating chairs for when Q is gone, maybe we should have anybody who sits in that chair sign a document.

Right, like we own Ming's likeness after that.

Well, okay, so what's part, what's that's that's

what's the what's the bells and whistle package?

Bells and whistles is uh for you're you get for two hours,

you get private instruction from the market.

It sounds like in Silence of the Lambs, like when Jodi Foster is telling Hannibal Lecter, she's like, for two hours, you will get to swim in the ocean.

Walk on the second.

Yeah, the private instruction from two award-winning podcasters for $100.

You get a two-hour package with me and Mike.

The first hour goes through basic instruction.

We have slides.

We teach you how to podcast.

Wow.

You have

a multimedia presentation?

Presentation, sure.

Wow.

Like an overhead projector?

Sure.

It's more on a big screen TV, but yeah.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

And you go through

points.

What would be some of the...

You know what?

I don't want you to tell because people, that's information that people will pay for.

Well, he gave one thing.

He's not going to give away his whole two-hour course.

Yeah,

what's something that you would tell?

You know, a lot of people don't do first-timers, especially.

They don't introduce themselves.

You don't know whose voice is talking.

It's a basic thing.

A lot of people don't introduce themselves.

Wow.

I would have never even thought of that, right?

We don't do that.

I just did it.

I do it every week.

I know it's so simple, but

a lot of people are so nervous that they don't even introduce you to it.

Who are you?

If you can't, you know, nobody, if you couldn't tell who was talking to you, you make no connection to the person.

But that's something so simple that someone's paying you for that information.

That's almost like saying

turn the light on when you, like, before, you know,

or

plug in the recorder.

I mean, is that, hopefully that's not one of your things.

Like, is it?

Okay.

There's a whole slide.

It's a separate course.

It is a podcasting 101 class.

Yeah.

But

that's a very basic thing.

Freaking introduce yourselves.

And has anybody taken the

couple people take it, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

And

they've continued with us in podcasting.

Did you get testimonials from that?

You should get testimonials.

I will be getting testimonials for them for sure.

Cool.

But make sure you're like Declan, like Walt wrote him like four testimonials if he just used them all.

Like no periods, no sentence breaks.

All in caps.

Did you write all in caps?

So for fun's sake, what does any of this mean?

Yeah, but you know, we'll do house calls too.

If you maybe you have a home really, nobody does house calls anymore.

I know, I made a house call

to a doctor this past weekend.

I made a house call to an actual doctor.

These people aren't home, but they're making house calls.

What?

Yeah, there's a doctor.

She does a weekly podcast.

Who's a doctor?

Gynecologist.

Oh, man.

I would draw the line there.

I wouldn't allow that.

Why?

Because that's like anti-religious, right?

Talking about the puss.

Is it?

How do you think we got here?

Wait a minute, though.

So there's a doctor at the gynecologist.

Yeah, a female gynecologist.

And she talks about her practice.

She talks about people sending questions and

she answers them in a frank and humorous manner.

So he interviewed me, actually, for one of her podcasts.

So I have an interview.

I would love to have her on.

What did you have to offer her?

My interviewer.

He's like, what's this?

Yeah, I was going to say, what would you have to offer her?

I was just catching her.

I was just kind of.

She's asking you?

No, I didn't mean to tell her, but like,

what could you technically like?

I think she just wanted me to, you know, because she came down to our studio and I was there already, so just for the first hour.

How could you answer those questions without being totally flustered and blushing and going?

Well, I know a thing or two.

Yeah, but like, that's

too intimate, though.

Yeah, I feel like the dirtier it was, the easier it would be to address.

When it's real clinical, that's when I would get awkward and uncomfortable.

Really?

So, the opposite way?

So, clinically, I think it would be easier for me rather than speaking in slang.

Yeah, she does it in a frank but humorous manner.

She's got a good sense of humor.

It's not clinical.

How did she hook up with the shared user?

She was a client of a friend who

referred her to me.

Do you charge the doctor a little bit more?

Because you know she can afford it.

No, no, it's standard rates.

Yeah, standard rates.

But if you want to listener names, ask Dr.

Angela.

That's the name of the podcast.

It's on iTunes?

It's on iTunes.

If you listen to one of the latest episodes and one of the earlier episodes, the sound quality is night and day.

That's what we do at a Shared Universe.

Oh, so you weren't there for her first couple episodes?

No, I wasn't.

So, okay.

So, what's the episode right now?

They sound like our latest episode.

I can't remember the episode I'm on.

You can do a search.

But the one that I went in and improved was episode 268.

Oh, she's there.

Oh, my God.

How much is there to say?

Oh, God.

Come on.

There's a lot out there, my friend.

Wow.

There's a lot out there.

What's the listener base?

Did you ask her that?

Like, is it women or men?

It's mostly women.

I mean, why would men well?

Oh, does she take phone calls?

She takes emails.

It's different.

You can't breathe heavy over.

I didn't know, like, a bitch or some dudes who are

turned on by the clinical aspect of the.

Sure.

I think you work with two of them.

The clinical aspect.

I'm talking about stirrups.

Sure, sure.

Oh, oh, so, like, they're that weird.

Because they have like speculums and I still think you work with two of them.

Yeah, but one of them only likes to see the horse and stirrups.

Right, yeah.

Wilber.

Wilber.

Oh, wow.

There was also, I saw that, I...

I think it was, or you either interviewed her or she did her own podcast.

It's a lady who owns a lingerie place in town.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, did you interview her?

That dated the governor?

No, not Ashley Dupree.

Yeah, she's out of business.

Yeah.

Yeah, there's another lingerie store called Sweetest Sin Boutique.

She's organizing a 5K here in Red Bank, so she just wants some publicity with that.

But yeah, we plug the business too.

Gotcha.

Is there anyone that like who's like, yeah, I want to start a podcast so I can like increase my business traffic?

And you'd be like, this is not going to do it for you.

You're asking them these leading questions that are only going to cause them to get in trouble.

Well, no, I mean, as a businessman, like, I would think you would be like, it doesn't matter.

Like, who knows?

We take everybody.

One time I was just a college student making websites for fun.

Next thing you know, I'm comic book men's Ming Chen.

Sure.

So there's no reason to think that person couldn't.

It's unlikely with that person who's like, oh, I have like a

little boutique for dogs on Broad Street.

If your money's clear.

They want to advertise.

I got to think business.

No.

Don't ask me.

If your money's correct.

In fact,

there's been businesses that have done podcasts with him that are even more fringe and of dog boutique.

Really?

Yeah.

But interesting, though.

You wouldn't think it'd be interesting.

Sure.

But

that framer,

George.

George Cormos, yeah.

I would be like, look, what could.

But I listened to his podcast and it was interesting.

He did just one podcast?

He's done two episodes.

Does he?

What's his podcast called?

It's called Framed in Jersey.

It must be much different than going in there to pick up a framed picture because

that is not podcast worthy of the conversations I'm having.

Come on, he's.

You see,

you're not thinking pliably.

You're thinking

your old ways of thinking.

Somebody brings in an item to be framed, the significance of why it needs to be framed.

There's a story behind that

thing that's being framed.

And he's able to tell the listeners why a certain item got framed in his store.

And it was like Joe Namath football.

It's the football that Joe Namath last touched before.

He's like, and it didn't have a frame before, so they needed a frame.

Then I put a frame together

and I gave it back to him.

Yeah, he paid it back to him.

No, I think that George at Revere Framing, I think he connects on a different level.

He's a super nice guy, like a lot.

Yeah, he really gives us great deals, too.

So I'm not going to disparage him

any way whatsoever.

He's burned every bridge man has built over the past five years.

Yeah, no, he's.

I don't think he listens to tell him Steve Dave does.

Probably not.

Have you ever burned a bridge?

Like, you seem like a real non-bridge burning kind of guy.

I'm trying to think.

Like, I've seen you suck the dick of my mortal enemies.

Six more minutes we can talk like that.

Six more minutes we can play the game because we can't play this game while

the store is operating.

You know what?

I try not to burn any bridges because you never know when you'll need to circle back and cross that bridge again.

Have you ever wanted, though, to burn a bridge?

I'm sure I've had, man.

I'm sure I've wanted to.

Yeah, I've never.

But you mean you're, but you're not, but you can't, you say you're sure.

I'm sure I have, but you're not 100% sure.

So there's a possibility you've never wanted to burn a bridge, no matter how wrong you've been.

I think everyone's wanted to burn a bridge at some point.

I can think of someone that you almost guarantee would want to burn a bridge with that person.

But Bren's writing it down.

I may have not mentioned the name, but

you would like.

That's a good one.

What was that Arnold movie, True Lies, When They Blow Up That Bridge?

That's how you would want to burn the bridge.

Oh, God, yeah, the Key West Bridge.

Yeah, for sure.

With the Harrier Jet.

Oh, God, for sure.

Yeah, no, you're right.

Yeah, there's that.

All right, so Ming Chen is human.

Whoa,

almost tipped right over.

It won't matter in six minutes or so.

Yeah.

But yeah, I think everyone's wanting to burn a bridge.

Or go down that way and do it.

Go all the way down by Mike and do it.

Okay, thanks.

It's crazy how people, no matter how far back in your past, can just pop up, and you may or may not need them, especially now with the business.

Somebody you've dealt with in the past might want to throw a couple hundred bucks at you for a podcast.

I could never do it, but I have envied your ability to appear to care what people are saying and remember everyone.

Like, you remember so many people

I just feel like I'm not going to meet that person again, so I just purge their name.

And then you see him again, and they're like, hey, I see him later that day.

I just forget nature.

Most of it's like a year later if we go to a Satan car and I'm like, hey, remember we talked about steering wheels last time?

I'm like, no,

you just flat up, you're like, no, but I'll fake it.

Sure.

No, I disagree because I've always said this.

I don't believe you're ever faking it or acting when you see it.

Unlike W Chen.

When you're acting like you care about what somebody's saying or you are interested in what somebody's saying.

Because I've actually seen you act, and

you're not that good of an actor.

You are fucking, you are really, really

into whoever's talking to you.

Be sincere.

Whoever's talking to you,

you seem to care on a level where I'm like, how does he do it?

And it's not like.

Like, I don't even care about people I care about.

I mean, I try to.

Is it trying?

Because it looks like it's effortless for you.

For some people, yeah, it takes a lot of trying, you know, especially if they're talking about like characters on MASH and shit.

You're going to have to

throw in trolls.

Come on, come on.

Bows and arrows.

Come on.

All good here.

All good nature here.

Ming and I were at a con once, and we were walking through

the green room.

It was a big one, too.

And a guy walks by and he's like, hey, how you doing?

And I was like, hey, what's up?

Like, I didn't recognize him.

And, like, Ming is right behind me.

And he goes, what the fuck?

He's like, it's Greg Nicotero.

Yeah.

Try to instigate a conversation with me.

And I'm just walking right by him.

I was like, I'm sorry.

Because I don't look up.

I'm just like, hey, because you just want to keep moving.

Mastermind Man, The Walking Dead TV show, like one of the reasons where, you know, we were, yeah, we had seven seasons of comic.

Well, you know, you got to respect that, though.

I mean, that guy gets his butt smooched.

Right.

Every once in a while, he needs a completely indifferent, like, lesser.

You're right, knock him down a couple pegs.

You got to be like, whatever, dude.

He's got to respect Brian Johnson after that, I would think, because

it's just refreshing to not be fawned over, I would think.

Is it?

It's awkward, right?

If somebody's fawning over you, it's awesome.

I love it, man.

It's not awkward at all.

You love it.

You drink it in?

I definitely drink it in, yeah.

Didn't happen in the past.

No one's fawned over me.

Not my parents.

Now, prior to 2012, no fawning, man.

Do your parents care about the TV show and everything that's happening?

Not at all.

My parents don't seem to care either.

Like, they don't watch it.

They don't listen to Steve Dave.

They say it's too raunchy.

What did you

really expect your parents to act differently and start fawning and showing a no, no, no, no, but if they were like to watch the show, that would be yeah, see, mine is like mine is, I don't even know if my mother watches it, right?

And I don't want to know.

I prefer that, like, we don't ever talk about it.

We don't ever, ever mention it.

It's never a topic of conversation, and that's the way I prefer it.

It's like in a family where like an uncle molested one of the kids.

Yeah.

We can't do anything about it.

Let's just sweep it under the rug.

And we don't talk about it, and maybe it never happened.

I swear to God,

it was never like we decided upon that.

It just happened.

She just didn't talk about it.

Like, after a little while, she just stopped mentioning it.

And it's never become up again.

And that's the way I prefer it.

I mean, it's never spoken about it.

And we're like at family gatherings, and that's the way I prefer it.

You don't bring it up?

Never.

Oh, my God.

What day is it?

Oh, my TV show isn't on today.

Let nobody worry about it.

Yeah, I don't have to be back to watch it.

Is it 1:15 in the morning?

Guys, guys, wake up.

My TV show's on.

I'm glad I'm not, I'm glad I had the TVs on because I really wouldn't want to watch it.

All right, go back to bed.

I mean, do you think most people don't bring it up with you?

Because they know you don't care either.

I wish, you know, it'd be a great question for the family members.

I wonder

why they have agreed to this, like almost this mutual agreement that no one has voiced that we're not going to talk about it.

But I don't know.

I don't know why no one talks about it, but I'm glad they don't.

If he's got like a huge boil on the side of his neck, and it's like, we'll just, if we just don't bring it up,

like, it won't be awkward, right?

Right.

He won't feel weird and bad.

Yeah, so it's okay.

Yeah, so we just won't, uh, we just won't bring it up.

What about your kids?

Your kids care?

No, not really.

They, um,

you're never cool to your kids for anybody out there with kids.

Oh, I disagree.

Really?

Your kids think you're cool?

Well, not my oldest, but I think my youngest.

Or my youngest.

But if you ask Cooper,

I got a feeling that she's never said it out loud.

You know what?

She's never said it out loud that I was cool, but when I talk to her about her, when she's over her other friend's house and her parents, I know for a fact.

She doesn't come out and say it, but I know that she thinks that I'm cooler than all her other friends' parents.

Right, because the dad is like, the mom's like, so how was your third job like at the swing shift at Target, asshole?

And she's like, oh, my dad's on TV.

That's not why she thinks you're cool.

No, I mean, you're into music.

Like, you take her to concerts and stuff.

That's pretty cool.

Yeah,

I think that she's smart enough to realize, though, that

I will do

things for her that I don't know other.

I'm sure other fathers do that too, though.

Not all of them.

Not a lot that are like, yeah, driving up to Brooklyn and shit and going to these shows that

definitely don't want to see.

Yeah, going to the concerts.

Like actually a closet, basically, in Brooklyn.

He goes to a show with me once every five years.

It seems like once every couple of weeks you were on a show.

Yeah, that's pretty cool, man.

Well, yeah, I mean, it's, but you know, it's, it's not, but also it's not important.

Like you, like you're saying, you know, your kids don't think you're cool.

I think it's more important to be

a parent than be the cool.

A strict disciplinarian.

Yeah.

You know, that's where you, that, like, you may not be able to freak out on a customer, at an employee at the Coral Sword.

Right.

But you know, that's where you can do it at home.

You can totally lose your shit on the kids.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, that's a God-given right, man.

You're right.

I'm not fucking cool.

I'm not.

Yeah, unless you're directly involved with something that they think is cool, you're never cool.

Like, you know, if I was if I was in a video game, you know, a kid plays a lot of video games.

If I was a voice, what's his game?

If you were like a Minecraft game, Minecraft, or if I was a Minecraft man Easter egg and you were in it, yeah, then you think you were cool.

I think that would be cool.

There's a game called Fortnite right now that all the kids are playing.

That's real popular, right?

Fortnite?

Yeah.

If I was like one of an expansion pack or a release or something, it might be cool.

Did he opens up the cards every time looking for you you and he's like, uh,

yeah, I know.

A griefer?

Isn't that from Minecraft?

Is it a fine?

Yeah.

Griefer?

Creeper.

Creeper.

Creeper.

Jeez, we're so old.

Creeper.

What's the name of this?

Creeper.

Creeper.

He has a bad thing.

Minecraft.

It's like a thing that can kill you in Minecraft.

Yeah.

Is that the game where everything looks real digital?

Yep.

Yeah.

Okay.

They're all blocky in 8-bit.

8-bit, right?

Yeah.

I read a thing about the guy who created that.

He bought a $200 million house, and the article was about how unhappy he is.

Oh, my God.

$200 million.

Yeah, it's got a.

All he invented was Minecraft?

Yeah.

Jesus Christ.

Yeah.

Yeah, the house has like a quarter of a million dollar wall of candy.

It looks like

one of those places at the mall

with all candy.

Look how much I've invented over the course of the past five years.

And I don't.

God knows how many derivative game shows.

Yeah.

I know, and how many kids?

Yeah.

Two live crew or one middle-aged true.

And I don't have enough to even buy a

stinky clip.

This guy's got a whole candy wall.

You can't even buy a gumball off of that.

Oh, my God.

Speaking of, though, inventions, I invented a new game for you

just for your participation here tonight.

No, we had to wait until it was like Stash After Dark.

Well, it says it's raunchy.

It is raunchy.

Okay.

All right, I'm in.

But I based it.

I knew you were coming in last night, and I stayed up to the wee hours.

Oh, my God.

A lot of effort.

All right.

I hope I can

come up with this because usually how I work it is I come up with the name first and then I come up with short play based around it.

So the name of the game is

it don't Ming a Thing If It Ain't Got That Swing.

Okay.

This is the second Ming theme game.

Remember, Saki to Ming?

Me and Ming were drinking Saki in the morning.

Yeah.

This one you don't have to get blotted to play it.

Okay.

Yeah, it does kind of suck.

But I found this swinger's glossary.

Okay.

These are words that only swingers use.

Okay.

See you later, Miguel.

Congratulations on a shared universe.

We're talking to Ming Chun about it.

Guys, have a great pop.

Good night, Mike.

These are all swingers.

All swinger terms.

Okay.

And you and Brian will, whoever comes closest to the definition

will get a point.

Okay.

What's the name of the game again?

It don't ming a thing if it ain't got that swing.

Yeah.

You're talking about like swinging like

by, like street?

You know what I'm saying?

Are you swinging?

I know.

There's a couple different ways to swing.

Swings both ways.

Well, maybe

for the game.

That's the raw.

That's the way that we're going to help you

to win this game.

All right.

And I didn't know you were going to be bringing your

significant other with us.

Now, now it's really awkward that I got to say.

I got to play this with.

No, it's going to be more awkward when I'm stroking my cock under the table, as you say it.

Yeah.

All right.

The first word.

Okay.

And since

you're our guest sitting in for Q, you're going to get first crack at the definition.

Ready.

A unicorn.

What does a unicorn mean in the swinger world?

Oh, my God.

Okay.

Well, it could have many meanings.

It could be, you know, a man.

No, it only has one.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

Jeez, man.

All right.

I mean, the first thing that comes to mind is, you know, a man with a big, you know, a big horn, perhaps.

A unicorn.

Oh, that's not bad.

Yeah, but I think that's too obvious.

I think.

It's weird you went to actually what you first went to, though.

Is Is it weird?

Pretty gross.

Talk about Raunchy.

I mean, the first thing you think immediately, right off the bat, is.

Giant cock!

Yeah, a unicorn is a mythical creature that does not exist, correct?

So in swinging.

Yeah.

What?

Yeah, I know nothing.

I'm an Asian man.

I don't know anything about this.

Maybe if I'm in a fun house,

he's not even paying attention.

He's really

concentrated on the game.

All right, so I need to answer.

Okay, so it's not a giant cock.

A unicorn.

What does it mean in the swinger glossary when someone says, hey, look at that unicorn?

Got a unicorn.

Got a unicorn.

Wow.

Wow.

Exciting.

Unicorn in the house.

I mean,

I guess I would say it was like a female partner who

does everything.

No holds barred.

You know, like a mythological creature.

Who also has a dick.

Who also has a big dick.

Unicorn.

Horn.

You know, horn.

All right.

You're saying

it is a female.

Tendral female partner, female swinger who does absolutely everything.

Doesn't say no.

Okay.

I think we got a unicorn in the house, boys.

I don't think if you're a swinging anyway, is there anything you won't do?

I'm sure there are restrictions.

I'm sure there are rules.

Your answer is my sponsor, yes.

Okay, Bri, give me what you think a unicorn is.

A unicorn, I don't know this term.

I'm going to say a swinger swinger virgin.

Like if you're at a party, it's someone who's like, it's very rare that they haven't swung yet.

Okay.

Now I will be the judging who comes closest.

A unicorn in the swinger circuit is a bisexual but single female at a swinger's party.

I am going to have to award the points to Ming Chen.

for that.

I think he.

Oh, no, that wasn't my final answer.

No, he said that

it was a female who does everything.

Yeah, does everything.

That's pretty close.

That's pretty close, I think.

I think he was closer to it than what you said.

Okay, so the real answer is a bisexual girl

who's there alone.

Who's actually

a

single bisexual female at a swinger's party?

And that equates to a cum slut, is what you're saying.

A girl who will do anything?

No.

I didn't, that's the definition, but I think he's come closest to the definition than you did.

Okay.

because he used the word girl.

I mean, that's about

that seems to be the deciding factor here.

Ming Chen, you are awarded.

Wow.

All right.

All right.

Wow.

Ming Chen and Elite Bride.

This one's for you.

I'm happy about this.

These are very specific definitions, though.

We're going to have to

get technical here.

Have you ever suggested to Debbie Chen, like, hey, you want to swing?

No, I think

questions that you know the answers to don't need to be asked.

You're like, that will only end short, like change locks on the door.

Probably right.

We are ready.

All the other shit I've pulled hasn't done it.

Yeah, that probably will.

I don't know how to pronounce this word.

Vagi.

I don't know if it's pronounced we

or if it's pronounced W slash E

W slash E.

W slash E or it just may be pronounced we.

That's the term.

That's That's the term.

Okay, so this is one of these weird acronyms like

DTF.

Oh, down the fuck.

All right, man.

W E.

All right.

I'm going to go.

I'm going to say wet end.

Okay.

Because that reminds me of

wet end.

Because that reminds me of wet tail, which hamsters get.

And then if guys are putting hamsters in their ass, maybe they're just like, oh, I got a wet end.

Okay, I thought you meant like which end?

Like, what end?

What end do I put it in?

Like, it could be the top or the bottom.

I didn't know.

Oh, okay.

Mouth or butt.

Or

wherever.

Right.

Okay.

All right, but you're going to say wet end.

I want to say it has something to do with hamsters.

Hamsters.

Yeah.

I have not heard of we either.

Ming chen.

At the end of this game, it's going to, it's really going to, you can really,

who's the more swinger out of this?

Right, who's the Lothario here?

Right.

Right.

Usually when you put a W slash in front of something, it means without.

But the E, the E is throwing me.

What could the E mean?

Like eggs?

Like she's fixed, so you don't got to worry about getting her pregnant?

I think that's

a little too out there, yeah.

Or it could be in with as well.

What word?

Spell it?

With.

No, it could be either with or without.

Okay, I need an answer.

No, okay.

All right.

Well, I'll go.

I'll guess with everything.

As in everything.

Yes, as in.

Yeah.

Again, meaning that you're open to everything.

And

you can start instituting these

phrases at home now once you start learning them.

You can start making them part of your natural vernacular.

Right.

Yeah.

Wow.

So there are many unicorns in the house?

Yeah.

All right.

With that.

Maybe

when you're on a long trip to

a con, but Mike, you could break out this term.

You guys can FaceTime room to remove it.

Okay.

he was knocking on the adjoining door

mike

mike are you a unicorn

we yeah w e

stands for well endowed typically

typically

my swingers looking for men with huge cocks if you had only saved

maintain your fucking your laser focus on huge cocks for the second answer wow i think that's a draw there i think neither of us well endowed well endowed god damn it.

Yeah, we should have gone.

We should have gone.

I feel that who came closest to that?

Hamster?

Or what was yours again?

With everything.

With everything.

Nope.

Basically, you just said the same thing as the first hand.

Listen, I was.

I was going to have to go with Ming Chen, though.

How bad he is.

How bad he is.

It had nothing to do with hamsters.

This guy hates to lose more than Jimmy Condors, man.

It didn't have anything to do with everything.

Yeah.

I can't believe this game is being thrown in favor of the guest.

What do you need to rent a podcast studio for an hour?

Yeah.

Hey, doors are always open, gentlemen.

Anytime you want to come in, I'll give you a little bit of it.

Is it like 7-Eleven, where, like, if someone was like, hey, I want to record at 3 in the morning, you'd be over there?

Yeah, I've always $25.

Yeah.

I live five minutes away.

I'll totally.

Yeah, that's true.

You live in the middle.

Yeah, I know that, you know, not everyone, you know, society doesn't necessarily run on

the same clock.

So that's true.

You might need, like, some racists might need to get in there after a good crossburning.

Okay.

Little White Rock.

Little White Rock.

Little White Rock.

Wow.

All right.

I know that

could be a drug reference, but it's not.

Little white rock.

I'm confident.

I know that could be a drug reference, but I know it's not.

How do you know it's not?

Oh, no, no.

I think it might be.

White cock?

No, I'm going to.

I'm going to take that back.

I'm going to say ecstasy is involved.

Little white rock.

Happy pill, yes.

Happy pill, ecstasy.

Little white rock.

Little white rock.

Yeah, obviously you go to Coke or something.

I'm trying to think of what an aphrodisiac might be.

I'll say Coke.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I've never heard any of these fucking terms.

I've heard of a lot of shit.

I think it really is.

Yeah, yeah, right.

Apparently not.

Apparently, you're a bit more square than you think.

I know.

I can post about what a swinger I am.

Little White Rock?

Yes.

Normally placed.

A Little White Rock is normally placed on the front porch of a married military members who are swingers.

What the fuck?

Oh, my God, that's a a million years what I've got.

Specific.

Well, that's why it's a good game.

Because it's not easy to guess.

I'm never going to forget any of these.

Right.

No, for sure.

I'm definitely learning new stuff today.

Well, these 70s are awesome.

I guess Europe.

So nobody got that one either.

Okay, yeah.

So it's still one

nothing?

No, you gave me the other one.

Yeah, I can't get that.

I wonder how that came to be, the Little White Rock.

Like, what happened that.

Yeah, there's a story here.

I don't know what it is.

There has to be.

Somebody did it at first, yeah.

But this next one is really interesting.

Okay.

I dated a girl that

I wasn't aware we were swingers, but she swung for years.

One-sided swinging.

Yeah.

That's a unicorn.

Puppy dogs and ice cream.

What does that mean when someone, and you go in, you got a swinger party and someone says, hey,

some puppy dogs and ice cream?

I'm going to say guys who are willing to perform oral.

Really?

What makes you say that?

I don't know, puppy dogs.

Their tongues are always hanging out.

Don't like ice cream.

They like ice cream, probably.

Dogs don't like ice cream.

You don't think your dogs would eat ice cream?

You're not allowed to.

Their dogs are not supposed to eat ice cream.

There's no rules here.

No, it's not health.

It's not good for their digestive system.

But it's not real dogs and ice cream in the Swingers Party.

They're just saying, I don't know.

I don't know.

All right, you think it's men who are.

Every fucking answer I give, I'm being shamed.

Like, oh.

Because he is so smarmy about it.

You think you know so much about this?

No, I'm saying I don't know.

Before this,

I know.

He said, I don't know any of these terms.

I know so much about these things.

I usually do know a lot of stuff.

There's this, I don't know.

It's a new world here.

Puppy dogs and ice cream, man.

I'm going to guess.

I don't really have a reason for this, but every couple at the swinger party, none of them.

The puppy dog is my dinner because I'm Asian.

The ice cream is a treat for afterwards.

I think treats are involved.

I think everyone involved in the swinger party, none of them are married.

They may be attached, but none of them are So they're unmarried, unmarried swinging couples, yes.

Okay.

Puppy dogs and ice cream is an adjective or noun that refers to any topic of safe, meaningless conversation used when someone is afraid to come to terms with their sexual desires.

So every conversation you have with Mike, basically

is what we're saying here.

Again, not millionaires, would I have a guess?

No.

Like, none of it, yeah.

I mean, that's a, you know what?

We're not thinking laterally, I think, is the problem here.

We're not really thinking at all, but no, you're just like, I guess, yeah, just guess because I don't know.

White Rock, yeah, little white rock.

You know, you thought we, you know, we thought we were like,

You guys are so square, it's so pathetic.

I know, we thought we were.

I can't believe you got onto the computer to get the fucking terms.

You're so square.

I know, I want to see your search terms on your computer.

No, this is just a

little app that I found.

It's an app swinging on the terms.

It's like three months of search history for Tom Brady and then swinger terms.

Pliable.

I think I'm up, yeah.

Pliable.com.

Rimbledon.

Rimbledon.

Rimbledon.

Rimbleden.

I mean, that reminds me of the word rim job, so

I'm going to go in that direction where, you know, oral, but with the S.

I'm going to go.

Yeah, don't be giving them any hints.

You have to be that explicit.

Sorry.

You want to say oral?

You're willing to put your mouth on someone's rear end.

Is that better?

That's better.

I'm going to use the clinical term Sphinter.

No, I'm going to fine-tune Ming's answer and say that Rimbledon is, yes, indeed, Rim jobs, but they're going from butt to butt, like two different bouncing back and forth.

Okay, so

I will not allow that.

You're not going to allow that answer?

I will not allow it.

You're just basically parroting Ming's answer.

No, I'm fine-tuning it, I just said.

With adding one little

butthole.

All right.

That's your answer.

Oh, I'll allow it then.

Okay, Rimbledon.

It's a take on Wimbledon, the the tennis tournament.

Oh, really?

Oh, okay.

Now I get it.

Yeah.

It's so weird that I use that

tennis metaphor

not knowing about Wimbledon.

It's actually a swingers game based on the popular tennis tournament.

Okay.

Where four players

get together and everybody gets their,

you called it

licked clean.

Okay.

And people, but it must be done in front of spectators.

Wow.

Okay.

So basically, the reason I'm wrong is because Ming answered first.

Otherwise, I would actually be closer because it's more than one butthole.

But you got to give it to me.

It's more than one butthole.

I went for the whole match.

He stole his answer.

I didn't steal it.

I fine-tuned it.

Yeah, but you probably.

The world's greatest inventions are not the inventions.

Ming brought you to the area of the butthole, and you just like, and then you just.

As usual.

Like, you wouldn't have got there without Ming first.

Oh, yeah.

I'd be like, Rimble.

I wonder.

Like, I don't know, like, Rumble Stillskin?

All right, you get it.

All right,

I even

admit that.

I'll concede that.

The people would have went nuts.

All right.

We got to wind this down.

Everyone's getting too excited.

What do you think about it?

Like, how disgusting is the idea of somebody, like, you're with a bunch of people, and people, everyone's licking each other's buttholes and shit.

Yeah, I mean, it depends on the people, like, like most things, but

if it's like you three

it's you and Q and like

oh god oh get him get him's a limbered

pliable and limbered up so his legs are behind his head.

Is he pliable enough to wipe his own ass?

I'm not really sure.

Wipe my ass on a towel.

I'm trying to find a really good one.

There's so many.

Yeah.

Oh, all right.

He's going for

this great game.

I say you you bring this back.

I say this could be a real game on TV, couldn't it?

It definitely could.

Like on the Playboy channel or something.

Obviously, not.

There's still a channel.

Or they could show it on Hooter's Air.

All right, whose turn is it?

Is it your turn?

No, it's he's the Brian Johnson has the floor.

So you're going to do you.

What's it, two to one?

It is two to one.

So if you tie it up here, we'll have one more after this.

So you need this.

You need this.

Okay.

Breeze Boy.

Breeze Boy?

Breeze Boy.

Okay.

Boy, I'm going to think of like a young guy, Breeze.

immediately, it makes me think of blowjobs, but maybe it's like, oh, hooking up with them is a breeze.

That's the way I'm going to go.

I'm going to go that, like, it's, it's just a younger guy that's easy, that'll like do anything with anyone.

It's a breeze.

Okay.

Meng.

Breezy.

I think the word boy is a general term, so it could be a man of any age, but

a breeze borough would perform oral on all the males.

Do you really need a nickname for that?

I would think at a swingers' party, that's like everybody.

Yeah.

Right, so everybody's a breeze boy by that definition then.

I mean, that's yeah, all of them.

They'll go from.

You got to think really strange.

That's not strange.

Well, not at a swinger's party.

No, you're fucking 10 different dixon eroses.

Yeah, that's what I mean.

Mix it as oral.

You're like, you're out of here.

You're fucking out of here.

They're lined up.

He's going from one dude to the other.

Circus seal.

Yeah, exactly.

Like they would call it a circus seal.

He's Breezing through them, but I think the word boy is just a huge word.

Is it B-O-I or B-O-I?

It's B-O-I.

And he's right.

It's a man

who wear their jean shorts so jacked up so high that

you could see

the definition of their

cheeks.

You can feel it in a breeze.

So you're telling them that in like circa 75, 76, Edgar was a breeze boy.

His shorts are pretty short.

Aren't they out there mowing the lawn?

People are like, oh, breeze boy.

You got those shorts, too.

I saw them running on purpose.

At least I did them on purpose.

Yeah, okay, right.

I want to get hashtag breeze boy, like a shirt.

Just a guy who checks his shorts out.

Yeah, it's just a job.

It's just a good breeze on your balls.

Yeah, or your junk, yeah.

Yeah, interesting.

Who do you think came closest?

I don't think you.

Well, you said you thought it was a man of all, anybody of all ages who would have probably.

I'll do anything.

That's my definition for everything.

I'm going to give it to Brian.

Okay.

Just so we can have one more.

This is a good thing.

This is all the tension.

I mentioned nothing about shorts.

No, that's okay.

The tie game here.

Everything's riding on this.

And this is yours, Meng C.

I know.

I know.

Pick a good one.

All right.

here we go.

Building some tension here.

Whew.

I like it, though.

Audience is on the edge of their seat.

I like it.

I know.

There has to be.

I mean, you could even, like, can't you just do like a YouTube channel these days where if, like, you wanted to show this game?

Like, if you produce your own game show, and we'll just charge for YouTube.

Yeah.

YouTube is.

And everything.

Would you want to be the host of it, Walt?

What's that?

If you could be the host of, well, you'd probably have to change the name unless Ming was there every week.

Yeah.

He's, I guess, he's like one of the, he's like, Ken Jennings.

He's like Charles Nelson Riley.

He's always

on the panel.

Or more Bruce Valange, but yeah.

Bartie Johnson.

Oh,

or no Riptailer.

Riptail Taylor, Riptailer.

Wow, I'm having a hard time finding something here.

So raunchy, you can't pick one.

Some of them are so grotesque.

Wow.

Give us a grotesque one, man.

Let's go out on a high note.

I can't.

It's so close.

It's nasty.

It's like,

if you didn't bring your girl, which I could have sent something.

It's like the two live crew of hats, man.

A smick.

A smick.

A smick.

A smick.

A smick.

All right.

Well,

I think of like red-headed Irishman, like a leprechaun.

A smick.

You've got me.

It's an audio engineer who sucks cock in the Disney showers.

Congratulations, Ming.

Congratulations.

Well done, boyo.

Smick and sming.

Still focusing.

He's like, I want to win this shit.

So you think it's an Irish girl?

An Irish swinger?

An Irish swinger or someone that

people are into leprechauns?

Perceived as an Irishman.

And I'm going to go.

He enjoys the, you saw the movie Clerks, the term term snowball.

Right.

That enjoys the snowballing.

Wait a minute, wait a minute.

So it's Irish people who enjoy snowballing?

Yes.

Or someone who could be perceived as Irish, may not be, you know, Irish.

I think it's very culturally appropriate as an Irishman.

Wow.

I think you're going to lose this one.

Too often.

I think you should have gone weirder.

Yeah, yeah.

Isn't that weird enough?

I thought that was pretty weird.

I think you should have liked when you went with that leprechaun.

That was like, that was some sick.

That was the right direction.

Yeah.

Yeah, that was some nasty shit going.

You were leading there, but you wouldn't open the door.

I know, I know.

Business owner now.

Business owner first.

He doesn't want to get a bad rap in the community.

Irishman

enjoys the act of snowballing.

That's my answer.

All right, Bri.

Do you know what a smick is?

A smick.

No.

I'm going to say

a small dick.

Like, don't go near this guy.

He's a smick.

He's got a little cock.

Good answer.

Good answer.

Okay.

Good answer.

For the game.

Okay.

Game set and match.

Rimbleden.

Rimbleden is on the line.

A smick

is a smooth young cock.

Woo.

Wow.

It doesn't have a lot of warts or bumps

to it usually.

Old people do, I think.

Or old.

You're like, I know.

Liver spots.

Oh, like a liver squall.

I've got a giant liver spot on my ball.

Maybe that's what they mean.

Could be a cancer.

I don't know.

Don't feel afraid to ask.

Actually, describe the body.

The spell is fucked up.

That's all I know.

Exhausted.

Yeah, so

out of your two answers,

who came closest to a smooth,

shapely, attractive dick?

I think Brian did.

Small.

He said it was small.

Yeah.

But

you went for a snowball and Irish.

He said the word dick, though.

I think I got a picture.

Yeah,

even for that.

I'll give that to you.

For that slur, you're

leprechaun.

Yeah.

I should probably.

Yeah, we're kind of woke here, bro.

Yeah.

So Brian Johnson is the very

champion of

it's got to be

well done.

How was the name of this game again?

Don't make swing.

Don't swing a thing

if it ain't got that swing.

Wow.

Or you're the first

world champion of that.

Wow.

Will I be like Ken Jennings and just hold on to the title for like months?

You could go to

those hedonism conventions and do like signings there.

Oh, sure.

I'm an authority.

Yeah, absolutely.

It was a good game, though.

I say that.

Yeah, I say it.

You came up with that in the throes of falling asleep.

I was like, what are we going to do tomorrow?

I mean, I would love to play a game of Ming.

And I was just like, let me come up with a name.

And I was trying to.

What does Ming like?

He likes Smicks.

Smicks and giant cups.

And he likes unicorns.

You're talking to your sleep daddy.

He's like, oh, my God.

Lost it.

Get back under the bed.

Well, Mink, thank you for sitting in for Q this week.

This is the first in a series.

Not at all, Pop.

The Cavalcade of Tell them Steve Dave stars.

You're the first one.

Who will it be next week?

Listeners will be on the edge of their seat.

We're not going to reveal it.

We're going to keep it a secret, and then when they listen to the episode, they'll be on pins and needles.

Who is going to be in Q's seat this week?

There could be betting pools.

Well, we certainly don't want them to fall off those seats, so it's not Mike.

Tell them Steve Dave.

Daisy's embrace of blaze.

Live my

eyes could see this way.

Slicing

them

all of my veins.

Never coming

down

again.

Back, to see the power blooms.

See the flowers less for dungeon so beautiful.

It comes in close to the razor blade.

Back to see the flower blooms.

See the flowers less for dooms so beautiful.

It comes me close to the razor blade.

The razor,

the flower,

the daisy,

the power.

Love feeds on razor blades.

Plower

fields where razor lays.

My

sees it all the same.

Nature slicing

of my brain.

Black seed the flower blue.

See the flowers less for dude, so beautiful.

It causes me close to the razor blade.

Black See the flower blue.

See the flowers lights for dude, so beautiful.

It causes me both, through the rays of blade.

I want

to touch the flower.

Touch the flower

growing

bale

Russ so close to name

you

I want you to pick the flower

Pick the flower

for your lover

Pick the flower

for your lover

Bleach yourself

now

for your lover.

Bleach yourself

now for your lover.

Will my love

bleed

for

me?

Will your love

bleed

for

you

beautiful

is the cloud

growing stronger

by

the raiser

Rust crawls over

nature

Rust crawls over

nations

to the gay sand

bound

down

to the gay sands Bout

down

to the gay sands

down

to the case age,

and to my lover, bound

down

to the gays and

to my brother, bound

down

to the case,

and to my family, bound,

down

to the case,

and to the killer,

all right.

Before we begin the dyslexia portion of our show, I really hope you guys are digging the format of who will be sitting in for Q next

that we're going with while Q is away filming.

Really hoping to build that kind of anticipation and edgier seat vibe of who is going to sit in Q's chair next on the next episode of TSD.

Like the, you know, like the cereal, the cereals of old and the cliffhangers that we all grew up with.

All right, right, dyslexia.

Last week's clues:

continent once lungs.

And that was

gill

agains

island.

Gills are the opposite of lungs.

Once is the opposite of again, gill again,

and island is the opposite of continent.

Clue two,

dumb give.

I mean, everybody got this one, right?

Get smart.

And Clue 3, Individual Manning.

Individual,

Bunch.

Opposite of Manning?

Brady, as in Tom Brady.

And that way I wasn't going with Peyton Manning.

I was thinking of Peyton's father, Archie Manning, who has the most losses, I think, than any other quarterback in NFL history.

So obviously, he would be the direct 180 of a Tom Brady.

And the winner of last week was Rachel Podraza.

And she's going to be getting a skull.

Free Prussian Kissing Devil skull, mini skull.

And if you are interested in purchasing a skull, and I'm very, very,

very pleased with the

sales of the skulls on Merch Table since the advent of this game.

I really want to thank you for

ordering some skulls.

It's making a big difference.

But if you want to order a skull, if you haven't done it yet, you can go to tellhamstevedave.merchtable.com and place your order today.

Because once they're gone, we will never go back and make these again.

I think that's pretty obvious.

All right, so dyslexia for this week.

Clue number one:

Wealth Walk Man.

Wealth Walk man

again wealth walk man

clue number two

e

evasive

e evasive

clue number two e evasive

and clue number three

poorly minimum

poorly minimum again

poorly minimum

And before

we sign off, again, if you actually give you the details where to send your answers to, that's Kmuse2

at gmail.

Tell me the answers to those three clues as well as the theme

of those answers.

And if you get

all those answers right, plus the theme, you may win your very own mini Prushing Kissing kissing devil skull.

All right.

And but before we sign off, I did want to thank those listeners who came out

a couple weeks ago to the fourth wall signing that me and Brian had up in upstate New York.

I can't tell you

how

awesome it is that, you know, you, that the listeners came out because, I mean, there's like a handful of people there for

the CBM aspect of it.

So, So

without those guys,

it would have been some rough sledding as we stared at the owners of the store

for a couple hours.

So I really do appreciate it that you know the listeners who were able to make it out there.

I do

want to thank them.

And

all right, so get cracking on those dyslexia answers.

This one's an easy one.

I'm expecting a lot of responses this week.

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