#327: The Human Corn

Mike and Ming have the nut to

cover.

Like, I've done things that I don't really want to do for the money.

What is it that you're afraid is going to happen, though, if you fail?

Yeah, nobody cares about you, so you're not letting anyone down.

Yeah.

Well, when you put it that way.

Tell them, Steve, Dave.

Hello, and welcome to this week's edition of of Tell him Steve Dave.

Bop!

That's the sound of the cherry on this new microphone that we had to buy since Ming stole our other ones.

Woo!

There won't be any clicking.

I don't think so.

Unless Walt's microphone's clicking.

That sounds pretty good to me.

Walt's been giving me shit, saying I'm responsible for clicking and all sorts of

things clicking, but I mean,

I would think.

No, fuck it.

You're responsible.

How do I work this?

If you're handling the recording, yeah.

To be blunt.

I wouldn't be responsible, would I?

No.

Okay.

It probably wouldn't be Q.

He didn't bring the equipment.

He didn't set it up.

No, it wouldn't be.

I mean, it would have been.

Our normal equipment wasn't here.

That was the problem.

It would.

Right.

It falls on me.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You take it, and I love that, that you got those big broad shoulders and you take it.

I'll carry it.

You take responsibility and

you man up to it.

And I love that about you, that that wasn't always the case.

Yeah, you know what?

You know what changed me?

Watching my mother refuse to be wrong about anything

and always trying to like, like no matter what, like that, that moment of like, all right, how am I going to just put this little tiny wedge in here and then try to spread it as much as I can and let the fucking truth fall through, get lost, and I'll just be right.

And isn't that really what matters?

Right, Mom?

Right?

Well, on a scale of one to ten, I'm curious, how important is it to be right

for you personally?

I guess it depends on what we're talking about.

Just in general.

Just in general.

In general, how important is it for you to be right?

I like how you're baiting me with this, as if most people are like, well, I love being wrong.

So I guess like 1% of the time, I guess.

Like, who doesn't want to be right all the time?

Of course, it's a 10.

Nothing's more important.

You know, there are people out there who don't care if they're right.

You know, they

truly don't let let it affect them.

They carry on through lives with smiles on their faces.

Yeah, they're just so beaten down.

Yeah, so it's a 10.

I'm probably going to be wrong anyway.

No,

I'll give it.

I just had to be high, though.

It's going to probably be like an eight.

Yeah.

I was going to say it's probably in the nine range.

That needles almost touching ten, I think.

Right.

Do you feel like you're normally right?

I will give my.

I feel like, well, it depends.

Again, it depends on what.

Am I making life decisions for me?

And no.

That's where the 0.5% are are being wrong.

So where it counts.

When it matters most, say a lot of people.

Yeah.

That's why I'm like, fuck it.

Yeah, other,

I mean,

look, I guess I'm wrong a lot on the show because people love to tell you when you get something wrong about it.

Hey, man, if you don't know about walls in Mexico, then don't talk about them.

Well, I mean, you're...

Don't talk about anything.

Well, you're in that strange or that.

You're doing what a lot of people don't do, though.

You're putting your opinions out there.

And if you are willing to put your opinions out there,

you're going to have to

accept that.

And I live in whatever world you live in where people aren't putting their opinions out there, because that's all I see all the time.

Yeah, but you put them out there in a much more

public from public consumption, more so than the average man.

Oh, than the average man.

Or woman.

Ghost pussy tweet.

You know, yeah, like

somebody tweets something.

I mean, the average person tweets something.

It gets seen a little bit, but, you know, not,

you know, you're doing it to

a bit bigger base.

Don't you agree, Q?

I mean, not huge.

Would you call me one of New Jersey's bravest?

You definitely have a wider scope.

Didn't you feel, though, I mean, Q, you could be honest.

Didn't you feel early on, though, that he could say no wrong?

He could say anything, and he wouldn't.

There'd be no blowback.

I mean, the most heinous stuff.

Now the most innocent things.

You just see

rambling of

how

just to take him down, it feels like.

Where do you see that stuff?

I haven't noticed it.

He gets emails.

The internet.

Oh, emails, too.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, I got high.

Maybe people are just sick of his shit.

Maybe it just took this long to just build up.

It's over.

Overload.

But no, I don't believe so.

No, the veneer has been scraped to what you see for what you are.

Just a metal frying pan with no Teflon on it.

You may be just a different

listener that was maybe not around or not listening early on.

I thought early on, like, yeah, he was like.

I was a golden boy.

Oh, my God.

I mean, like, they were, they were just like

nothing could be said that, and they didn't, and then people weren't clapping and going, you know, bravo, bravo, vamissimo, you know, like, more, more, more.

Now it's always.

No more.

Yeah, now it's like, no more, no mots, no mots.

Well, you know what?

It's always political stuff.

That's what people don't.

Not always.

No?

No.

No, no, no.

Oh, my God.

I don't know why we talk about political stuff.

Any other reports?

Oh, it could be your personal decisions and just your personal actions now.

Some people are mad that I hit my own car with a bad.

It's like, how does that get somebody upset?

I don't get it.

I think year one, you could have hit your car and people would have been like, you know, it would have been doubled over.

Right, they would have been back in.

Well done.

Now, it's, I don't know if it's a different listener or they've just grown tired of

well, I find that the influx we had of IJ fans that came in are really very accepting.

Like, they don't really give a shit.

I'm proud to say.

So

you're saying it's not the influx.

I don't think it's ants because

they seem to be cool.

Some of the old-time people, I think, resent the new time people, and it's creating like a little bad blood, and then that's just giving, that's just putting bad blood in the room.

Dude, I just had a whole trial.

Fucking, I'm still getting shit about the kissing devil.

I was wondering, you know, Q,

we were talking the we went to L.A.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, we went to Hollywood, man.

We went out to Hollywood.

Did you conquer Hollywood?

In a way, yes.

I mean, I big-timed Q.

You did big time me.

We went to the Rainbow Room.

What's that?

It's the Rainbow Bar and Grill.

Not the Rainbow Room.

For people who would.

No, it's so gross.

The exact opposite.

The Rainbow Bar and Grill was in the heart of hair metal metal.

Like, Lemmy hung out there.

That was Lemmy's place.

Lemmy's not hair metal, though.

No, no, no, but it was all types of music.

That was Lemmy's place.

You could find them there.

There's giant statues of him now.

They've actually made statues, and they named one of the bars after him.

Okay.

It's like

lived, but not anymore.

Lived kind of past 10 years.

It's right next to the Roxy Theater.

It's right near the whiskey.

It's right near the white.

Would the crew have played there?

Oh, for sure.

Their pictures on the wall.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, there are pictures where, like, this is what I like hanging.

Like, I really, really like hanging with Q because

there's very few people in your life that you can

create an entire backstory from one picture of a band, like this band called Strait Jacket.

And I had never heard of them, and he had never heard of them.

I've never heard of them.

You've never heard them?

What year would they have been at their height?

It looked like 80s.

85.

Yeah, it looked like maybe 85 to 90, somewhere in there.

But

it's that, you know, it's Strait Jacket coming in as a band, wondering why their picture was taken off the wall, asking to talk to the manager.

It's just so much fun.

You know?

What's so much fun?

Just sitting there bullshitting.

Oh, wow.

Just bullshitting.

For hours.

Yeah, no mics or no reason,

just to do it.

The conversation goes everywhere.

It's like old school.

It was like fun, man.

Yeah.

It was really fun.

I started demanding that my picture be on the wall.

It was not received well.

Yeah.

Well, there was the waitress there.

We went in and we hung out.

We had some drinks and stuff.

I didn't really

demand my picture to be on the wall just for everybody who's like, I fucking knew it.

He's in our troll.

Sadly, we have to explain these things these days, Walter.

Yeah.

Back in the day, they would have been like, oh, well done.

But so she,

so we get some, some drinks and shit, and then we leave, and then we come back.

And during

that time,

somebody was like, oh, those guys are the one guy's on this show, the other guy's on that show.

And when she saw us come back in, she's like, oh, hey, hey.

And she was like, oh, our bartender makes the greatest, what was it, it, Martinis or Margaritas.

Margarita.

And

as we're walking back to the bar, she's like, your show, my brother's really comics, so you, I know you.

He's like, I don't know him, though.

And I was like, oh, yeah.

And then we get to the fucking bar, right?

And as the bartender is making the drink, she turns to me.

She goes, you know, these aren't free, right?

And for just a split second, I was like, she's kidding around, but I can see in her face.

She's like, but it's a really great drink.

Like, it seemed like she had more pull then

than to

tell, like, I mean, what hard salesmanship.

That's a hard sell.

Yeah, especially the fact that we were just sitting at a table with our friends to have dinner and order drinks.

Like, why pull us to the bar specifically to get drinks?

Yeah.

Just to show you off?

I don't know.

The bartender seemed to not give a fuck or no.

Right.

You want a show, pony?

Yeah.

And she's like, great.

I pitched my wagon to this fucking fat nag.

Idiot.

Yeah, we had meetings and we fucking partied.

We did a lot of partying by watching.

Blair Witch and Blair Witch, the Oscars.

CG Origins of Evil.

Yeah, we watched a lot of shitty horror movies.

We went to see Steel Panther, which is a

like throwback hair metal band that plays in that style.

They do covers and they stay in character the whole time.

They bring up like 10 chicks on stage, having someone making out.

It's awesome.

They did something though that even I was like, oh

just stop saying it.

Yeah, that's it.

Because they're trying to get them the flesh.

Now,

having lived in the 80s and gone to concerts where it's like titties are everywhere, versus today where you would be like, oh, well, it's Hollywood and kids are out and

fucking like anything goes, but anything does not go.

They seem very conscious.

Well, I don't think I've ever had cell phones.

Exactly.

Nobody wants to be

acting like

unprofessional.

I was trying.

Nobody would point their camera at me.

There's ramifications now.

Yeah, yeah.

But

everyone has learned that you can't just go up there, flash your tits, and then be like, hey, I want to be a teacher four years later.

I think there's something wrong with that, but I think those make the best teachers.

Life experience can't get you going.

Right.

It can't be all books.

But yeah, these girls were like, eh, no.

And I just wanted the guy to stop saying it because it was so obviously not happening.

And I stood in the corner and watched people.

And

they were having a good time.

I was

blessed.

You were rocking out.

You were rocking, dude.

We were there with Adam Green, a friend of mine, film director.

Did the Hatchett movies?

Oh, yeah?

Yeah.

A lot of fun.

I feel like like it was a good time.

You should have went.

When we went to the meeting, they asked about you.

They did ask you.

Yeah.

Yeah.

At Power Meeting?

We took you.

My name was brought up in a power meeting.

Oh, yeah.

Was it the first thing brought up?

Yeah, they're like, wait, where's Paul?

How far into the meeting did it go before?

Well, it was an hour-long meeting at a huge agency, and it was all about Tellum Steve Dave.

So it came pretty quick.

Wait a minute.

Wait a minute.

So, I mean,

if I'm part of Tellum Steve Dave, I don't even know there was a a meeting about Tom Steve Dave.

We should have conferenced you.

I guess we should have conferenced you.

What?

Well, this is your unceremonious objection.

I feel like it's your fault, people.

So, you guys had a power meeting about Tom Steve Dave.

Yeah, power meeting about it.

Didn't feel the need to

mention it to me.

But that's okay now.

You would know.

What if I told you what we talked about?

Okay.

So

what was on the.

All the animation stuff.

Oh, okay.

That's what I'm saying.

Like the stuff we talked about.

Not the clay animation.

No.

They asked about clay animation, and I said, well, I know you guys are the guys.

You're the clay guys.

Yeah.

Different animation.

Different animation.

That hasn't been seen yet.

Right.

By the public.

Right.

Special secret animation that's going to

turn your notice from clay to regular animation, hopefully.

Well, what happens is you work with people who are easy to work with and do their job, and you want to carry them with them into a bigger project.

Bring them into power meetings.

That's what we were trying to do.

Trying to reward the people who have done good work for us.

Okay.

All right.

So, how did it go then?

Well, pretty quickly.

Was it,

so did you sign any papers?

We have a little homework to do.

Vector management, who is my management company, is going to be cutting a check for me?

Cutting a check for you, yes.

He's going to be cutting.

I'm going to walk that's this.

That was the first thing he said.

We got a check while we walked in.

Yeah.

What you said, I'm sorry, I cut you off.

You're going to be cutting a what?

Like a sizzle reel, as they call it in the business, Walt.

A sizzle reel.

Yes.

It'll be your second.

Your second sizzle reels.

Really?

So we have to have to make one then.

Yeah, but a lot of the material is already there due to the project we haven't announced yet.

I liked your response to that.

The other guy's like, you know, you got to make a sizzle reel.

And he just looked at it for a second.

He's like, well, who's going to do that?

That's like you said,

it's not going to be me.

Yeah, so our boy Dex is going to be on that.

So, yeah, we got some.

I went in with the attitude of like,

who wants to expand the podcast?

And the agents were like, no, like,

it's a thing now, like, where they're trying to find the right way to exploit podcasts into something else.

We don't have to move out to the West Coast, do we?

We do not.

Okay.

Yeah, you're safe for now.

Yeah, don't worry about that.

We all live and work here.

So we'll see.

We're on it.

Could you see Walt as an LA guy?

How would Walt handle LA?

Let's say he lives in

a valley.

Probably.

Okay.

You live in Burbank.

I can see you living in Burbank.

I think Walt could pull it off anywhere.

Yeah.

Yeah, why not?

Warmer out there.

Sure.

He'd be away from the Devils.

That's okay.

They suck.

Yeah.

Like this.

Originally, I was going to ask you, Q, because

we touched on it when we were there.

Somebody was talking about.

Like when

I have two cats.

Now, when I went to get the cats,

I filled out paperwork and I gave the money and I walked away with a cat.

Who's they?

The adoption agency, ASPCA.

At no point was I, like,

swinging my dick being like, I rescued this cat.

Now, Cube, like, literally rescued a cat

off of

the BQE.

So do you take issue with people who are like, this is a rescue?

I rescued this.

No, I think, you know, maybe they did rescue him.

Maybe that cat would have been put down if they hadn't got him.

I think anybody who's taken care of an animal rescued that animal.

Even if they brought it out of a pet store, they rescued that animal.

No, I'm serious.

That doesn't sound self-serving at all.

I'm serious.

Even if that dog is five-grand dog.

Even if that dog, yeah, it was a five-grand dog.

I rescued that puppy, and he probably would have been put down.

Right.

It was his last day.

They had like on, like in his cage, there was a calendar with X's on it.

But

if I want to say I rescued him, like, are you really going to take umbrage with that?

Are you really going to give me a hard time?

Yeah, a little bit.

Why?

Because to rescue something, by definition,

means to save from peril or a situation that's, yeah, like, yeah, get him to more of a rescue than weird dogs.

Yeah, but you know what, though, dude?

Here's why I don't want to argue with the rescue term.

Because if it makes people feel good and it gets more people out there adopting cats, then I'm fine with the verbiage that gets these cats and dogs nice homes.

It makes it feel good.

If you feel good about yourself, isn't that what life is all about?

Just like, you know.

You know, Brian, how you feel good about yourself?

No, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, trying to achieve it, I mean

isn't that what life's all about?

Trying to achieve it?

Trying to achieve it.

Trying to achieve it.

I mean, I'm not saying you're

so many people take for granted.

And

if you feel better about yourself by saying you rescued it rather than you purchased it at a store, I mean, I don't see any problem with that.

I can't say American Express points for it.

Can I use my black card to rescue this $4,000 or $5,000 curb red dog?

It looks so upset.

It's a boutique, too.

It's not even like a hall pet store.

Like, you got your shit.

From Park Avenue.

But who knows where he may have wound up, John?

Sure.

He may have wound up where, like, you know, maybe fighting another dog and some sort of like, you know, dog fighting ring.

Yeah, I don't know if people pay $5,000 for a bait dog.

That seems.

I mean, maybe if you're a real reason.

He's tough.

Is he tough?

You have to carry him up in the stairwell.

I mean, the only thing that gives him problems are stairs, but otherwise he's.

You rescued him from exercise.

I'll give you that much.

He's put on about 40 pounds since I bought him.

Oh, my God.

How big?

I thought he's a small dog.

He's a small dog.

I mean, have you seen him, right?

I mean, he's just a bowling ball.

He's He's thick.

Yeah, he's thick.

You're talking about your dog a knuckle.

Got confused here.

Kennedy, what are we going to do, man, about you?

You got to get in shape.

Yeah, I mean, I don't feel bad, Genem.

I'm not saying this to make him feel bad.

Right.

No, you know what?

According to these guys, they're saying, fuck it.

Don't worry about what other people's definitions of you are.

All you have to say is, like, what?

You're unthin.

Yeah, I'm unthin.

I'm definitely joining.

I want to join your group, F-A-T.

Okay, you're in?

Oh, I got fat news, too.

Yeah.

And in fact, I ever proposed the best date for the upcoming day without a fat person?

What day is that?

I think the 14th of this month, because it's 3.14.

It's Pie Day.

Has your fucking birthday, bro?

Can't bail out of my bird or Gidem.

I like that.

Very good.

They're taking my day from me.

Yeah, but

they'll appreciate it, man.

Your birthday, and I'm not going to be around.

Neither is Gidum, because they're too fucking fat for you, fucking Hollywood.

And my dog's not going to show up either.

Yeah, me, Giddem, and Walt's dog are going to fucking

be marching around outside.

Too fast for you.

Yeah.

Yeah,

not so much march as just sit in a lawn chair.

We marched half a block and all three of us

drinking water out of bowls on the sidewalk.

But you know what, Giddam also has?

Like, you're talking to him about his

physical.

His carriage.

You know,

health right now, right?

I'm not making fun.

I got to be clear.

I'm not making fun of it.

I'm just concerned.

There is definitely something mentally,

I don't want to say mentally is too strong a word, but he has

some sort of,

I don't know what the proper word is.

I don't want to use it.

I don't want to use a harsh word.

Not autism?

No, no.

I think

he's afraid of success.

No.

He is.

He doesn't want to achieve.

You're really good at what you do.

That must be the scariest shit ever.

He's like fucking Indian snakes.

Success.

He's terrified of bettering himself.

I have offered him a multitude of plans,

of plans to change his life and to become something more than he is.

Can you give an example of one of these plans?

I have business plans that I offer him that I think I'm not, like, he thinks I'm fooling around.

Is it like Ralph Cramden type shit?

What happens is his binding guy is going out of business, so he wants me to start taking up all the business.

Hold on, no,

you're jumping way ahead of the game.

Okay.

First, you're an apprentice binder to once.

No, I told him, like, he has a truck.

He should open, he should do what's in vogue right now: is open up a business clearing out houses, and then you get to keep all that stuff that you clear out and go and sift through it before you take it to the dump and then sell it.

And we call it get him out.

I told him that we would call it a business.

And all he's got to do is, and he can market that.

He can market that and do a commercial on Telm Steve, Dave, sell get him out t-shirts that he would wear, his crew would wear.

I'll tell you what, I would even do a commercial for him.

Like a television, like a local access commercial.

I'd do one for him.

By him, do you mean them?

Because you know there's a silent partner in this business.

One without a truck.

Willingness to clear shit out of other people's houses.

But I also know why, I do know why he's opposed to this idea.

He's why he has no interest in it.

Because I brought into my house to move some stuff,

and I wound up moving most of it myself because he's so fucking out of shape and so lazy.

That makes it rough.

That makes it tough if that's going to be your business, right?

And your business partner.

He's up on the hard sell.

But I thought he could bring, like, I would be able to look through the truck and sift through

the garbage that he lifted got out of the house.

I'd be like, okay, we could sell this, we could sell this, we could sell that.

The rest goes to the dump.

Then we spend...

Then when you're done with the dump, go and list it on eBay.

Yeah, then go list it on eBay.

But hey, man, I put up all the cash.

I'm going to put up all the cash to buy it, but you have no interest in it.

And then I also, like he said,

you want to do it alone.

You can go to like Home Depot Depot and pick up one of the workers that are always hanging out out there.

That's exactly, yeah, that's exactly what was.

So PC, one of the workers.

Why don't you say what you mean?

Yeah, let it know.

Why don't you say it?

Why is that?

Why?

That's

why America is so great.

That's why people are coming across that border.

Right.

To get to it, because they're looking for a bunch of people.

So they can go to Home Depot and work, right?

Or they could go down to make a better life.

Exactly.

I just want Quinn to say it.

To say what?

You know what?

I don't know what you want.

Why?

Like, why?

Because they're Mexican?

Aha!

Mexican?

That's not even what I was thinking.

Winnie just had to turn into a Mexican ready again.

Let me tell you something.

If Gidham worked half as hard as a father, oh my God.

Those guys that hang out at the store,

he'd be the next Kevin Smith.

Well, like, I asked him, I said, without the talent, I guess.

How badly do you want to be able to have your own business and to be financially

like financially just responsible in your own, like you made it your way.

Just not embarrassed.

Wait, now are you talking to me or get him?

I said I'd like fuck you money.

No, no, don't know.

Who the fuck are you, Joey Fatone?

Where are you going?

Fuck you money.

How long are you going to work for me?

I don't even have to fuck you money.

I'm not going to talk to you.

Yeah,

the guy who's just looking out for him at every angle.

He doesn't care.

Who set him up with get him out, and now he's like, he's got

fuck you money.

He's like, fuck you in your comic bookstore.

Yeah, yeah.

In essence, yeah, he sticks his middle finger at me daily.

Wow.

He does.

He does.

Maybe not literally, but definitely a metaphor.

No, he's not looking.

He's looking at every turn.

Yeah, but he's not looking.

And then what.

He's not with other people at this.

He's not going to Mike.

I need Mike here.

He's my left arm.

And Mike's on TV.

Get him's just a bunion on my foot.

I can get him out of the store for four or five days a week and have him just work on the weekends.

I'm the human corner.

But then also, what I've been into lately is I've been binding books.

Have you ever heard of this, Q?

Binding comic books?

You know, I have.

I know a buddy of mine is really into it.

It is like a new obsession of mine: taking series and runs of books that have never been collected in hardcovers

and making them into a hardcover.

And I've become addicted to this almost.

But my guy,

my supplier, he's moving.

That's a cat.

Don't worry about it.

Okay.

I now just travel with cats.

He's leaving the country.

I believe that.

Yeah.

Just rescued it while he was

moving off Mike.

My supplier is leaving the country.

He's shutting down his binding business.

And I said, there's a vacuum.

Right.

I said, get him, you know how to sew.

We have access to.

Actually, aren't you?

You said you're like, you're quite the theme stress, right?

Seamstress.

I don't think I shoot at my own horn.

I have some sewing prowess.

Again, I said, hey, I would invest if you want to start your own book bindery company.

And again, no interest.

I have heard a lot of, you know, Colin Bunn, the writer?

Yeah.

He gets all his books binded.

He is a guy if you need a guy.

I'm going to be needing a guy.

He obsessively binds his comics.

I hope it's not the same guy Weaver we're using that's leaving the country.

I know Ming has a foot binding business that he has a healthy black market trader speaking of Ming, Walt actually suggested to Mike and Ming that they start this binding business.

Well, I thought we all could go on.

Because since they do apparently a comics podcast, that they would have this built-in

customer base.

You're saying it with a mocking tone in your voice, and it's pissing me off.

Because listen to the Q, you're a businessman.

That's why these two fucks sit in the fucking squalor.

Both of them.

Giggling and laughing, not rubbing two thimes together between both of them.

Listen to this, my idea.

I agree.

I agree.

You got to try it.

Mike and Ming have the nut to come in on this.

To go in on this.

To go in on this business plan.

Right.

We start

a comic book binding company between us, right?

Right.

What do we have access to?

A comic book store with customers who buy comic books.

Right.

We push it to the clientele coming in here.

Mike and Ming have a comic book podcast where they could pimp the business continuously.

Ming has the Photoshop

technique and talents to design the perfect website and the book to design the dust jackets and

all the bells and whistles that you need to have to start this business.

We have everything in place except the moxie and the will and the drive, which is everything.

If you don't have any of those, so we've got nothing.

Yeah, you're right.

You just said it.

We got nothing.

And you will continue to have nothing.

As long as you sit there sitting next to Brian Johnson laughing, like, oh, this is great.

I have shit.

And I will always be shit.

Yeah.

Of course.

Welcome.

It's astonishing.

It's astonishing that

they think it's funny and they don't want to.

I mean, Mike is a good person.

I didn't even get the fucking offer.

But you don't offer anything to the business, though.

All right.

Fuck you then.

I will say that.

Do you know how much?

Why am I like an asshole for not jumping in on the business when you're like, you're pretty much useless?

Because I knew you'd just laugh and scoff at it.

No way.

I would do a commercial.

At least do as much as kill.

Do you know how much easier my life would be, Walt, if I wasn't constantly trying to branch out and find new areas for me to go into?

Like, I could just do the TV show and just fucking relax.

But you're, but you're driven.

You got to have drive, man.

Got it.

You got to make hay while the sun shines.

If you don't have drive,

you're just sitting in park.

And you're not even in neutral, just parked in a fucking

trailer park.

Chicken flip tall beaters.

Oh, tall boys.

That'd be sweet.

I don't want to.

Is that why?

Why don't you go in, Otika?

I mean.

Yeah, just be stopped fucking laughing.

Yeah, I know.

And just tell us, really, why are you afraid of success?

I have a solid reason that this job was not offered to me at all.

It just came to my attention.

But you, yeah.

Like, if you can sew and you can haul garbage, then why have you turned down to legit business opportunities?

I know nothing about binding other than the fact I can sew, and I'm not even sure how you sew books together.

So,

oh, but you learn.

You're a smart guy.

So, you've told us, right, over and over again every day at the store.

You can continuously remind us of how smart you are.

Smarter than Brian.

With that banner you're going to be able to do that.

Always.

Okay.

Now,

listen, I don't know if you have it closely.

Now you have it laughing together because he continuously tells us how much smarter he is than you for some reason.

He loves to be a bit more.

That shrewd dummy.

Can you imagine that?

No, I'm smarter than.

You know that other jerk off who they won't even ask to join their bookbinding club?

No kidding, right?

How often does he make a point for absolutely for no reason whatsoever to mention that he's smarter than Brian Johnson?

Oh, Johnson, he won't even use your first name.

He'll use your last name.

With derision?

Yes.

Yes.

It's weird.

It's bizarre.

Daily.

Daily.

Yeah.

There's some sort of competition I didn't even know about.

Me either.

Like, dude, do you know how many times in a day I'm like, hey, I'm smarter than Kiddie?

You know this this shit.

Like, zero.

I was going to say, has it ever come up ever?

Not once.

Let alone multiple times a day.

I think I learned how to shoehorn it in.

Oh, and he does.

He doesn't even shoehorn, doesn't shoehorn it in gracefully.

It's always awkwardly.

For people who don't even know who Johnson even is.

Yeah, somebody's like, oh man, my elbow's an arch.

Hey, you know who's not smart.

At least not as smart as me.

Johnson.

Johnson, huh?

Who's that?

Don't worry about it.

Don't worry about it.

Can you just tell us why you don't want to

try to become just like your own man?

Wouldn't that be awesome?

I think it would be just very, especially you got people who want you to skiske and people in your camp.

I think, like most people, I'm afraid of failure.

Well, you've mastered that.

So don't be afraid.

You think Walter is a family?

But you're definitely on the same side.

I don't want to fail at being a failure.

But

you have to fail.

You know, not everything's a fucking

success.

Yeah, sometimes you've got a claymation movie

on your resume.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, not everything's as.

You have to try to fail.

You'll get to something eventually.

I'm just afraid of flying too close to the sun and having my wings melted and falling into the sea.

But let's talk.

I can't even imagine how strong those wings would have to be.

He's got to have anywhere near the fuck on his face.

Yeah, he's trying to be funny instead of, like, we're trying to make you open up for once and let listeners into the real you, which I don't think they've ever really seen.

What is more real than we're afraid of failure?

I mean, that's a pretty

why, though.

Like,

what is it that you're afraid is going to happen though if you fail?

Yeah, nobody cares about you, so you're not letting anyone down.

Yeah.

Well, when you put it that way, really.

I mean, I mean, what is there to be afraid of, though?

Failing.

But what will happen if you fail?

What do you think is going to happen?

Who's going to be upset?

It's a fear of failure in the unknown.

I don't know who's.

But you have to love failure, dude.

That's how you grow.

That's how you learn.

Yeah, embrace it.

Look how many times, I mean, like, you know, I mean, you see people who fail a lot and still, but through those failures, they learn, though.

You see it firsthand.

I mean, tell Steve Dave, how many things have we fucking fucked up, but then we've used it to our benefit and turned it around and made it

either something.

We've made something out of lemons constantly.

Not lemonade.

I was going to say,

But we've taken lemons and turned it into something at least digestible.

Yeah, some sort of sour like prison toilet choned down if you really try.

What's that called?

What's that Wayne called?

Jenkum Bruno.

Was it Jenkum?

Jenkum?

Shot the teeth leader and shook it up.

I mean,

I don't.

It's almost like you're his dad.

You're like looking at your son.

I feel like at times,

I feel at times like I, and again, just almost like a father, I feel unappreciated too at times because I feel I have

kind of taken an interest in him.

And at times I'm like, why?

Why?

He doesn't seem to care or appreciate it.

And I get annoyed by it.

Turn him over your knees.

Do you think at all?

Do you think it has something to do with the fact that you don't have a son?

Oh, my God.

Now we're getting real.

Right.

Like, that just occurred to me.

Like, fuck this shit.

You never know.

Yeah, and like, I can talk to him about stuff I can't talk to my girls about.

Right.

I try to talk to him about sports, but I get frustrated because he has no shit.

Right.

Well, or music.

Or even music.

Like, I feel like, like, yeah, I talk, like, what, you like this song that's on?

I've never heard it before.

And then I just find myself just zoning out because he's almost, you know, it's the conversations just on.

And that's.

You're telling the story about my missing watch.

Yeah, but kids are often disappointing.

You know?

Yeah, but I mean, not my gals, though.

I mean, I'd never be disappointed by them, but I guess they're because they're flesh and blood, and this is just something I've

just blood.

Just lots of flesh.

Lumpy, lumpy flesh.

Could it be?

I think it might be, man.

That I'm some son you never wanted.

You've had a couple of those, right?

Not anymore.

Thankfully, the girl didn't either.

He charged it.

You think it's just my fatherly nature?

I think it is because I've never really seen you take this

level of interest and care in someone.

Can you say,

I want honest opinions right now, or honest answers?

And then I'm thinking, I don't think of Italy, I don't think he'll care.

If not for me

and my interest in him, do you think he'd be here like after we met him a couple times early on in the podcast?

No, I know for a fact that he would have fell by the wayside, and he never would have ever spoken to him about it.

Well, I was so angry at him for a test of him.

And what about you?

Pretty close.

Pretty goddamn close.

I mean, I mean.

So, I mean, it there something early on was there, like, I guess.

Yeah, I think there was this.

Well, look, he obviously needs help, you know?

So, I think that that fact is into it.

And then just some fatherly instinct kicked in.

How come I don't?

But, like, I think I'm telling you right now, if I don't get some sort of like

some sort of like feedback or some sort of like

progress or

acknowledgement of all

how you're supposed to treat a father.

You don't treat a father the way you're treating me.

What did he get you on Father's Day?

Shit.

Oh, my God.

What's on Father's Day?

I happened to have a very nice Christmas present for him for this year set up already.

He did get me something nice for Christmas.

Yeah.

I'm talking about this next Christmas.

It was a nice sweatshirt.

I'm talking next Christmas.

Oh, you're already planning for next Christmas?

I already got the gift.

What about Father's Day?

I have something I eyed out for Father's Day.

It's on my computer screen right right now.

Oh, boy.

You got to throw a barbecue for him.

Just you and have a catch.

Learn a couple stats.

What would you want to talk to him about?

All sports or just hockey?

No, all sports.

But you know what?

And I don't mean to be like

a good father, though.

I'm not just going to say the bad things because

I'm proud of him, though, when he does

come at me with some knowledge that

I'm surprised.

It looks like he actually

did a little bit of homework to talk about it to me.

Somebody else Johnson wouldn't know.

Johnson.

All right.

Like, why?

Do you have an example?

It's like sports.

Like, you know, like, it sounds to me like he did a little bit of homework

before the Super Bowl, so he at least could talk to me about the Super Bowl a little bit.

Did you?

Did you do some research?

I'd listen to some sports stuff.

Well, now, get him.

Does that make you feel good when Walt says something nice like that?

I'll let you know when it happens.

He just did it.

Oh, he just did.

He does that all the time.

I mean,

is this the way that you talk to you?

Is this the way you talk to your father, Q?

No.

I'm not going to ask you, Bri.

No, no, no.

You got to respect the old man.

No,

if I was doing the podcast, my father, yes, that's how I would talk to him.

Oh, but your real father?

Yeah.

Wait, you disrespect your father?

No, no, I just joke around with him.

Right.

Yeah.

You shouldn't disrespect your father.

Didn't he kill a guy at a Puerto Rico Day parade or something?

He was accused of it.

Right.

Yeah.

But he did rescue a guy out of a burning building after he set his own house on fire.

All right.

And got hit in that leg with a hammer in the process.

So, this is what he talks about instead of.

Oh, that's oh, so a lot.

So, what do you tell people about your comic book father, your work father, though?

My comic book father?

When I turn on an alpha, I bring the footsteps you're following in.

You know, do you ever tell them about the time I saved that lady on a trail in a foreign land?

I brought it up

all fucked up.

Yeah.

You know.

You might rescue the dog from.

But I tell people, I say, you watch that show comic book, man, that cool guy?

That's the one who gave me my job.

That's my dad.

That's my real dad.

That's your work dad.

But that's what I'm saying.

That big tall guy?

Yeah, I'm smarter than him.

Walt, joking aside, you don't, Walt, get him.

You don't, like when Walt said something nice, like he just said that doesn't do anything for you.

You're not like.

It does.

So, why don't you strive to earn that more, do you think?

I do think I try to.

I don't think he can help it too.

Well, I try to try.

You know, but sometimes I guess like what I try is not something that he's used to giving a compliment about.

Like, I try to make a really great-looking eBay listing.

And, you know,

I remember one day.

What are you laughing at?

That's his sad.

He's sad.

Look.

Have you checked out this listing?

No, come on, man.

Why am I laughing?

Because

then I can point to you five listings where I'm like, why did you do this?

Why did you put this in there?

And why did you omit this?

So, like, it's.

I could give you a solid example.

One day we were selling this to him.

Let's even say, so you're saying 20% of the time it's a home run with him.

80%

grounded out.

No, that's too harsh.

No, I have more sports sports talk before.

I have a song example.

We're listing this

tin wind-up Dracula.

Yeah.

And I did a nice listing.

He took all these great pictures.

I found a lot of stuff.

I don't even know about this.

This is the first time I'm hearing about this.

And I said, Walt, what do you think?

He goes, that looks good.

And I was like, oh, thank you.

He's like, no, I'm talking about the picture.

I mean, how the thing looks.

Not the actual listing that I did.

He was talking about the picture.

Well, you took the picture, didn't you?

No, you were talking about how the thing itself looked.

Like the wind-up Dracula, how it was painted and everything.

So, there's some disparity between whether he's talking about the listing or the actual item you're saying, yeah, yeah, and what were you saying?

I took a nice picture.

I don't even remember that.

It was so insignificant.

Yeah,

I think that

I just feel, though, that

you shouldn't be afraid to fail.

You should, you should, you have people who are rooting for you and are trying to help you, and you have to, at some point,

you got to

take a shot at it.

You got to get get up the plate and take a couple swings, no matter if you strike out.

Yeah, like you know how there's like only one set of tracks in the sand, right?

And even though they're backhoe tracks, because that's how Walt was carrying you.

Would you buy into a book bind?

Would you want to be a part of it?

I would.

Is the seamstress this fucking reluctant?

Do you know that this is your guy?

Well, I think, though, that like

or you're like, Would you like to join a thriving concern?

Q's Bruise, Q's Binding.

I think it could all be.

Q's Bruise, we could do it.

We could pull the trigger anytime.

Ask Clown Brewery wants to make it.

I mean,

it's one of those things, though.

It's like, you know, is it crossing that line?

What do you mean?

Is that line crossed then?

Or then are we in a different.

Now we're fucking Meister Browse.

You know, is it

watering down the brand, though?

I don't know.

I mean, I'm not saying it is, but I mean,

you have to make that.

You've got to put it to a vote, I guess, not between us.

Yeah.

Well, I guess the first question is: are you a sellout?

I'll tell you, I'm a sellout.

Oh, I wish I could sell out.

Are you a sellout?

Yeah, I think that I have.

What can you point to as a sign that you sold out?

Well, like, I will do.

You wouldn't take Mexican before.

What the fuck?

No, that's not.

That's not selling out.

That's not selling out.

Like, I've done things that I don't really want to do for the money.

Like,

you know, with those guys that hang out by Home Depot.

Fuck that, man.

You said a price.

I paid that price in the movie.

I don't want to hear people shooting

in California last week.

You know, we've done like commercials for things and stuff like that that I've been like, well,

like check cereal.

No, through.

Yeah.

All right, but what about how about Tom Steve Dave?

Have we sold out yet?

I don't think we've sold out.

No.

Knowing the shit that we don't make,

you know what I mean?

Like, we could, we,

I still think we hold true to our thing of, like, we're only going to make merch if it's good, something we would like, and if it makes sense.

We haven't really gone crazy making shit, I think.

I agree.

So, like, the TSD koozie would be, like, the tips.

But what about the TSD

skull cap?

We never brought it up, but it's for sale right now, and I've gotten a few emails about how

they were not complimentary.

They didn't like them.

We thought it was

a sellout.

Not using those words, but

a certain part of the fan base was not happy.

Well, I would tell you why.

Can I argue on our behalf?

They're up on merch table right now.

Right.

I got to tell you, this puts meundies in a twist.

Go ahead.

They're designed in L.A., where Q and I just went.

It's sustainably sourced from Micro-Modal or Modal.

Fabric, free-time software than cotton.

And guess what?

You can save time and money with a monthly subscription.

If you're not ready for a subscription, that's okay.

It's okay.

Because Myundi's is offering you 20% off your first pair.

Just use meundis.com/slash T-E-S-D and you're going to get 20% off.

And if you don't like them, you don't pay for them.

Revamp your underwear drawer.

You deserve it, really.

A nice pair of underwear is going to make you feel good.

They got five packs.

They got all kinds of shit.

You know?

Get them down.

Get them.

You're spending the night with a lady.

You strip down.

You don't want her to see some fucking yellow, tidy, whiteys and shit.

Oh, she sees that pair of meundis I got off you, those nice that nice blue pair.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

You should have asked first.

I had no underwear for the rest of the day after you got them off me.

Yeah, so meundis.com/slash

C-E-S-D.

This is checking the time.

I got to leave.

Okay.

And what were you guys saying?

About selling out?

I'm sorry.

Well, I'm going to defend this on the beanies

before I got to pull the recording.

Go.

Tonight's my retirement dinner for the FDNY, so I don't want to be late for that.

Thank you for your service.

Thank you, buddy.

Because people asked us to make those beanies.

We weren't just like, let's just make them and sell them.

People asked us, and we were like, I don't know if people are going to like them, so let's put them unannounced on the website.

We didn't even fucking beat the drum and say we responded to what people asked.

We did it.

If people like it, they like it.

If they don't, they don't.

I agree with with you.

Yeah.

I felt not trumpeting or not trumpeting or even mentioning was the way to be like,

it's there if you want it.

If you're there looking at other stuff and you see it.

People get weird, though.

They get very weird about that kind of stuff.

Whereas personally, if I saw something and I'd be like, oh, that's weird that they made that, or it's not something I want.

And I get angry at everything.

It would just end there.

I wouldn't think any more about it.

But like a beanie,

you don't have to buy it, so who gives a fuck?

Well, you know what I do like about the Ants is they take this show very personally.

They have ownership over the show.

You know what I mean?

They feel part of a community.

So I don't mind if they're like.

That's a long-winded way of saying entitled.

No, not at all.

Not at all.

I think that they,

you know,

keep an eye on it.

They're invested.

They're invested.

And they're like, whoa, this isn't what you guys.

This isn't like, look, content on the show, you know, I'm just like, go fuck yourself.

We're going to do what we want.

But that's all we can provide.

But to make things outside of it, that they're like, eh,

that I would listen to.

I would listen to that and take that in consideration.

A beanie, though.

To me, I think if we went to the ship, it doesn't start with a beanie.

It's a shit that we've drunk.

And the next thing you know, we're doing keychains.

No.

Come on.

And beer, though.

And I don't know.

I don't know.

That's where

you have to sit down and really think about it.

Beer.

Yeah.

Well, somebody came to us, again, like somebody came to us with the offer.

Because then

we're almost like um

advocating drinking though

he is

yeah um

i i think with something like hughes brews it's more fun it's not like anybody's getting fucking rich we're not gonna make money off it right you know uh nobody's nobody's fucking look walt called me a failure earlier because that beanie money did not i don't know did i say failure i at least

that's what i heard

That's what he always hears.

No matter what you say in my head throughout the whole day.

Can I actually use the word failure?

Go back and listen to the tape.

I don't know if you want them to.

I think you use the word failure often.

I may have.

I may have.

I don't think you went once.

I'm just so mad at my son.

My work son.

My work son, yeah.

Well, I didn't mean, if I said the word failure, that would be very inappropriate, I think.

You're not a failure.

Neither are you, and you're not a failure either.

Every day that you come in.

Don't kill yourself.

It's a success.

Don't ever think that way.

If I feel, and sometimes you've heard the term tough love, right?

Yes.

That's me.

That's me all over.

I'm just like...

The toughest love you're ever going to get.

And if I'm smacking you around, it's because, you know, deep down,

you know.

Why not?

Why don't the love?

You know what I mean.

You're my son.

Please ever listen to to that when they show up?

And I'm like, I'm just giving her a little tough buff.

Q, you got time for a quick fat news?

Yeah, I do.

I got five more minutes.

Okay, this will affect you.

Boom, ba, ba, boom, ba, ba, ba, boom, ba, boom, ba, boom,

boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

Fat news.

Ooh, chicken.

I know how much you like soccer, and I've been working on this for a while.

Yeah.

I can get primo seats anywhere.

Really?

Yep.

Want to know why?

For what team?

This is for all FIFA matches.

All right.

Nice.

All right.

It's a wide array.

Speaking of wide, it's because I'm fat that I'm going to get these tickets, okay?

Because special access tickets are going to be in four types.

Wheelchair user, easy access standard for disabled people, people with limited mobility, and people with other medical conditions.

Easy access amenity for people with guide dogs or people with a medical condition with assistance, dogs, and people that might need additional leg space due to limited mobility.

Okay, got that so far, right?

Obese persons.

Oh.

Easy access extra width seat for people with a BMI that is equal to or exceeds 35 kilograms

squared shit.

This is fucking, somebody sent me this.

Email Jen Hardin, Jan Hardin.

I'm not sure how to pronounce it.

You're now being rewarded for being an obese fatso.

That to me is fucking crazy.

And I'm not talking about the people who, like, you know,

through genetics, they can't help it.

I'm talking about the other 99.9% of people that are like at the stadium eating fucking hot dogs and charling shit down their fucking throat.

I don't know if they're saving, but these are going to be better seats than your average person.

I would.

This is hot button.

But at least you're getting out of it.

This is too hot button.

I caught shit.

Not too hot button to talk about.

I said, remember last week on

Faith

about how shit for that.

People were like, you really think smoking is as bad as

you really think obesity is as bad as smoking?

And I was like, I don't have the scientific facts, but it seems like they're both unhealthy to me.

And a lot of people were like trying to school me on that.

I didn't defend it because

I never claim I know what I'm talking about.

So I didn't want to defend heart disease.

I think that's a disease disease is the number one killer, and obesity leads to heart disease.

Yeah, that's what I thought too.

But man, you can't.

They don't want any sign of like saying that morbid obesity is bad.

Do you want to go to this fucking soccer game game or not?

I'll go.

I'll go.

I've watched some of these clips in these shows.

They have these people who are like, oh, I've never had a doctor tell me that I'm unhealthy.

And the people are like, are you sure about that?

Oh, yeah.

No, no doctors.

And they're like 600 pounds.

I don't know how that's possible.

My dad's rail thin.

And

doctors are telling him recently that he is borderline diabetic because of his diet.

Like, and he is rail thin.

So you imagine if you threw on an extra 200 pounds on the guy.

What's his diet?

He's just whatever the fuck he wants.

My mother tries.

God bless her.

She tries, but he's just like...

I'm probably on the road.

Yeah.

Washes it all down with a sweet cues brew.

You'll take care of me, right?

Work, son?

Yes.

Yes, work son.

Yeah, later.

How old are you, Get him?

38.

Yeah, he's definitely dying before you anyway.

It's just a funeral in the future.

You're going to have to pay for that.

Just as long as I don't do it on his property.

I'm going to

bury him in a white long box

in your yard.

No, not on his property.

No, not on my property.

Just throw him in that marsh across the street from you.

That's what he did when I was moving the boxes.

He was like trying to push me off down his driveway.

I say we make another fucking skull out of his fucking other kissing skull out of him.

Before you go, too, I had something I wanted to ask you.

I thought we could roll it real quick into

what was it?

What was one segment we did, Q's Broad Thoughts?

Broad Thoughts.

Broad Thoughts.

I don't know if you have time to weigh on it, but maybe we can talk about it next week, though.

Did you hear about this new invention?

Is it called Blue Apron?

Because Blue Apron is the number one fresh ingredient recipe delivery service in that country.

Their mission is to make incredible home cooking accessible to everyone.

They have a good impact on the community.

Everything.

Alec, how many times do I got to say this?

What does they pay?

I guess so.

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And that's it.

So what, what were you saying?

Did you hear?

Oh, I didn't,

I know it's kind of touchy now.

I didn't know there, you know.

Here's a

broad in the room.

There's a lady in the room.

There's a broad in the room.

Who's got thoughts?

But did you hear about this new invention?

It's where I live

in the space age.

Yeah.

There's like this glue that women can use.

Yeah.

When they're on that time of the month.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's a new inside.

Seal them up.

Yeah.

So that and they don't have to go.

But then where does the blood go?

Where does it go?

It just stays inside.

You didn't hear about this?

Well, this sounds horrible.

Yeah, look at this.

This is right.

Yeah, yeah.

You ever heard of this?

Blood?

It's brand new.

It's causing a bit of an uproar.

I think at the end they have like a special release agent.

Oh, my God.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

The only thing that can make it, the glue, like

dissipate, is that the word, son?

Yeah.

I asked my son, not Brian.

He's like, I'm gonna move, Jack.

Because I would have only had to correct him anyway.

Is urine.

Urine is the only thing that will dissolve the glue.

So they got a pee and then reseal up.

Yes.

Wait, is this something you're working on with your son?

Is it other business?

No, it was just

framing it like, hey, have you heard of this?

No, this is a real thing.

I wanted to get

Q's broad thoughts.

Like, what's your feelings on this?

This sounds like a thing from a horror movie.

Like, this sounds like German Nazi bullshit.

Like, they're sealing up a vagina so the blood collects in it, and then when you bee, it all comes out, like the shining when the elevated doors open.

Horrible.

God, it sounds like carrying away couches and shit.

Is there going to be that much?

I mean, I wanted to know.

I I mean, is it possible when it's that much?

Does it get that much?

Yeah.

Does it ever get to shining levels of flow?

But, um,

but isn't it, but I think, though, this is, because you're, we're dudes, yeah.

But wouldn't it be better to have that than to have clunky

things like, you know, like the way you're like, who the fuck did it flush this down?

Use a moon cup.

You know, I see that sign, uh, you know, in some of the restrooms, right?

You know, like or hotels.

When I'm at a hotel, it says, don't flush these things down the toilet.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They should have a glue stick there.

But what if you don't put on the right amount?

Community glue stick?

Community glue stick?

I think most people would be like, what?

Has this been a good issue?

Not knowing

the context.

But feminists are very upset, though, about this.

Why?

They're upset that it wasn't invented sooner, or or they're invented.

They don't like it.

It was invented by a man.

It was invented by a man, and it feels like I guess it's not a.

Isn't everything?

Tell them, Steve.

I am a dog war

bread for a world of freedom

beneath the black and white

Fatherless and of death,

broken down and a ship

that never found my friend.

Face to face with my failure.

Can't only

help to live

the faintest trace of life.

I know you're transit, and I can't get out.

I can't find my way.

My hands are strong, but my will is not.

I can't hold the flame.

I'm dug a trench and I can't get out.

I can't find my way.

My hands are strong, but my will is not.

I can't

the flame

beyond the shadow of man.

The giant from where I stand,

a better man than I.

I dug a trench and I can't get out.

I can't fight my way.

I hate are strong, but my will is not.

I can't hold the flame.

I dug a trench and I can't get out.

I can't find my way.

My hands are strong, but my will is not.

I can't hold the flame.

I dug a trench and I can't get out.

I can't fight my way.

My hands are strong, but my will is not.

I can't hold the flame.

I dug a trench and I can't get out.

I can't fight my way.

My hands are strong, but my will is not.

I can't hold away.

I've come entrenching, I can't get out.

I can't find my way.

My hands are strong, but my will is not.

I can't hold away.

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