The Precap | Michael Kosta on Trump's Nobel Snub, and Proper Protest Attire

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Hello and welcome to the precap where we sit down with this week's daily show host to preview what's coming up and recap some of the news we might have missed.

I'm Zach DeLanzo, a writer here at the show, and I'm joined by

Michael Costa.

I forgot your name for a second.

Michael Costa, this week's daily show host.

It's exciting, and I'm here with my co-host.

Co-host for the week.

Walter.

Walter, your dog Walter.

But he.

The subway ride in stressed him out, so he's asleep.

Yeah, he's chilling.

He's chilling.

He's one of our beloved office dogs.

He is.

And he's

at times a grump.

Oh, 100%.

But when he does show you affection, that sort of, it feels so special.

You know, I grew up with golden retrievers, and I always thought they were the best breed, but they're really sluts.

You know what I mean?

You can

let anybody pet them.

They'll let anybody pet them.

Walter, you got to earn it.

Yeah.

And even if you've earned it, he sometimes is mean.

Like, you got to wine and dine him.

You got to wine and dine him.

We had some family friends staying with us, and they made a lot of leeway with Walter, and he was laying on their laps and letting them.

The next morning, it was like reset.

He bit one of them.

And they're like, but we we hung out yesterday

it doesn't mean anything doesn't mean anything no it's like the daily show every day you start as a new day new day and i truly can't remember what we did the previous day correctly doesn't matter um which is actually freeing it is hey feel free to write a terrible joke yeah because it hey feel free to perform a terrible joke tomorrow you'll be doing this shit again anyways and i feel so strongly when i do write a joke that this is a good joke and then i'll sometimes look at previous jokes and i'll be like oh man i under i understand why you didn't go with that one because it wasn't very good

right now we're in a working dark week which is like a rare thing we do occasionally a few times a year where we're coming into the office but we're not doing shows we're just prepping stuff

but because of that we're also missing a lot of fun news that we'd otherwise certainly cover on the show that's true

is there anything

but sometimes these dark weeks you're like god i wish the show was on no totally you know like when that uh i think it was the strike when that submarine exploded Oh, yeah.

And I was like, this isn't funny that people are dead, but come on.

There's stuff here.

Yeah, there's material by the, yeah.

You know, and this week,

I'm kind of like, okay, it's the news week.

I'm not, I'm not like itching that the show is up.

Right, there hasn't been like one very special thing that everybody's talking about.

Or it's a very serious thing that you're like, hey, maybe it's better to let the serious people

cover this now.

I will say

there's been some

well, first of all, there's still a government shutdown, which is sort of like an ongoing story that you can kind of talk about, but it's just people arguing about whose fault it is.

It's not really a sexy story.

It's not.

And the other thing I've noticed with this government shutdown, even the newscasters are like, we've done this before.

Yeah.

You know, and they put up a graphic of all the other times with Clinton and Obama and Bush.

So

it is kind of hard to mine this.

Yeah, what do you say about like, well, it's day 16.

Yeah.

I mean,

I found

the Christy Gnome video, the airport video, interesting.

Oh, yeah.

I don't know if you saw that.

She basically said, we're trying to keep you safe,

but the Democrats have shut the government down, and they want her to air that at all the airports.

And some airports have said, no, we're not doing that.

So that's kind of an interesting new government shutdown story.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They are, they have access to like all of the websites.

So I know that like if you go to like the HUD website, they're like, we'd love to be open right now.

We know how much you guys love the HUD website, but we are.

But they just have some message up that's blaming Democrats.

So they're certainly.

This administration, I'd say, really loves to make little videos.

Well, let me tell you this, Zach.

That's a violation of the Hatch Act

of federal law

since 1939.

You are not allowed to

politicize or use politics in a harmful way.

It's against the law.

Right.

Now, here's the big question.

This administration has done a lot of that.

Yeah.

And what is going to happen?

But

they should never be able to do that.

Right.

Oh, I remember from the first administration learning about

it's one of the many things we learned about that existed that no one was familiar with.

But yeah, the Hatch Act.

And

yeah,

I guess they should have outlined a punishment for this.

I mean, it's like,

you know, we had,

I've been fortunate enough to interview Secretary of the Interior on the show.

Department of Energy Secretary, Jennifer Granholm.

You know, and they always say to you, they're acting in their official office duty, so they can't get into politics with you.

It would be a violation of the Hatch Act if you said, like, Trump, huh?

Because they'd be like, no, we're officially government officers.

We can't do that.

Serving the public.

Right.

But then you watch this video or these websites where they blame the Democrats, and you're like, I guess one thing the Trump administration is doing really well is testing all these boundaries.

And we have to, American people have to like enforce this shit somehow.

Right, yeah it's also just like enough like

flying already sucks enough that you have to like go and see Christy Noam right being

mean

I'm already gonna get this uh wine opener that I didn't even know was in the bottom of my bag confiscated why do I have to watch a video of Christy Noam anyways I get so yes the government shut down

there isn't it's not like a super comedy heavy no it's sort of boring there yeah there's little there's little moments little arguments that have been happening with Mike Mike Johnson, but it's

how do you how do you all as writers tackle those like what seems to be boring subjects?

I don't know.

I guess we try to figure out like a

I guess we have a meeting where we try to figure out a committee meeting.

Yeah, but I mean it's

there's always a

way to shift it into something funny.

Our research team will do a good job of finding like a juicy video of like

because it's all about right now it's just everybody making little videos democrats are making videos blaming republicans we're hoping this makes so we have that

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The story that I thought was pretty fun this week was,

well, Trump, I guess, he didn't win the Nobel Prize.

Right.

And he's very angry about that, which is a very funny thing to be pissed off.

I'm so fucking peaceful.

Yeah.

But

he was kind of putting on like a press blitz for that, right?

He was like sort of shamelessly trying to the way you like try to win an Emmy.

Yeah, yes, exactly.

Yeah, but I feel like it's like one of those things that the more you

it's not like Mother Teresa campaigned to win the Nobel Peace Prize.

You sort of, it's sort of like

when it

like prom king, like if you're asking people to vote for you to be prom king,

that's a bad sign.

As soon as you want the Nobel Peace Prize, you're not qualified.

Yeah, exactly.

Like the whole point of that.

And also, part of it was that I guess the way that it works is that you have to be nominated like

whatever nomination time closed January 31st of this past year.

So he was only president for all the stuff that he did that he's claiming should

qualify him.

So it's like, just at least give it another show.

Anyway, he was very upset about that.

And then I guess it's but also part of the

I can't even foster an argument for him

to have the Nobel Peace Prize.

Now,

if we accept like his press releases that he's solved all these wars, I mean, I guess you can, I don't even know what wars he's talking about.

Yeah, he's always, I've stopped eight wars.

And I do think it is interesting

to watch Trump,

you know, you know, this was a big paradigm shift for me that was helpful.

I always thought Trump wanted to be at war because

the American people support presidents during war.

And I was always going,

is he going to get us into war?

Is he going to get us into war?

And then I realized, oh, he is a wartime president.

It's just he's fighting a war here in the United States.

His enemies are here.

His enemies are here.

So I was like, he is a wartime general, but like traditional American presidents, he's not fighting Russia.

He's fighting the elite coastal cities or whatever, whoever we are.

Chicago, yeah, whatever the hell we are.

So

speaking of that, there was that

there was a photo.

Okay.

So the context of this is that a few weeks ago, Pete Hagseth gave this crazy speech to all of his generals in which he.

By the way, do you know those guys flew in from around?

It was unprecedented.

It wasn't like they were in Annapolis.

Yeah, no, they drove in.

They were like in active war zones and flew back to see this speech in person.

That was also televised.

Like, they could have watched it on television.

Could have been on a Zoom.

But it could have been a Zoom, could have been an email.

But they,

the main part of this speech was that Army men aren't going to be fat anymore.

And then

the National Guard, I believe it was the Texas National Guard, was sent to Chicago.

Right.

And there was a photograph of these overweight

military guys,

like several of them, all unloading stuff.

It's also funny, like, I tell my daughter, like, hey, we don't say fat.

Yeah.

Hey, like, you know, if you see somebody that's large and you need to say something, whisper it to me.

But then you just like, these leaders are like, fat, fat, fat.

We're like fat guys.

Yeah.

And here's the picture.

Have you seen this photo?

No.

Now, is this the real photo?

Enlarged.

No,

that's the real photo.

And

the internet had a bit of fun.

Oh, did that?

Yeah.

And, you know, again, it's really sort of, these guys are probably nice guys.

Of course.

By the way, you have any more bullets those guys can take?

Yeah, they got

the meat suit.

They got the meat suit.

I want this.

I want to be fourth and one.

Game is on the line, and you need one yard, and you give the ball to any of those people, and you run fast.

Oh, absolutely.

This is eye formation.

And well, yeah, so but as part of that, so this photo came out and then apparently they sent these guys home like after people on the internet were being mean to them.

We live in a very petty time and I think you should be allowed to be fat in

me.

And also they shouldn't be in Chicago in the first place.

They should be also I don't care if the guy operating an unmanned drone

is fat.

You prefer it.

I prefer it.

Yeah.

Because you know those guys know how to really sit.

They know how to really settle in.

You know, another realization of this administration, it sucks, is that they live online.

Yeah.

They live online.

Online optics.

The memes.

So if this picture goes up and then the internet

doesn't respond a different way, they would respond differently.

So one thing just to remember, like, they live online.

Everything Everything is online.

And it's the online is sort of the worst place to

live.

Correct.

So, yeah.

Yes.

So, yeah, we're, yeah, the

swamp.

They live in the swamp.

I feel bad for those servicemen and women.

And if they're watching this, I thank them for their service.

They do a lot more shit for this country than I have.

Other than I do, I, sorry, I got to take that back.

I do more than them for this country, but I do appreciate their

no.

When you start Stars all over.

I appreciate those servicemen and women if they're watching.

I'm sure they're big daily show fans.

And also, like,

they didn't look grotesquely obese.

They just looked like a bigger body type.

Right.

They're just like a, yeah.

Do you have a picture of them with their shirts off, Alan?

No, can we come?

No.

But,

yeah.

And it's like you're.

There are no other jobs where you're allowed to be like,

hey,

we decide,

the new boss doesn't like fat people, and so we're like, you guys will have to go home.

Here's Putin.

Oh, we got Putin shirtless.

We got Putin shirtless.

Wow, Putin's doing the butterfly swim stroke,

which is a tough swim stroke.

You know what?

After seeing this, I'm on board with Putin.

He's good.

He's fishing.

He's hunting shirtless.

You know, yeah, this sucks.

It sucks that they let those servicemen and women go,

especially when they talk about merit so much.

Yeah.

We have no clue the service record of these people.

It could be excellent.

Right.

It could be excellent.

And if you're letting them go because their service record isn't, then make that the story.

Right.

No,

nothing is merit-based at this point.

It's all online optics, I think.

If they say it's a thing, it's the opposite thing.

So if they go merit, merit, merit, you go like, oh, merit.

Then it's like, no, it's actually not that.

Right.

Because it's like Pete Hagseth, I don't think is the most highly decorated service.

No, I know he served and you know,

and we thank you for your service.

Thank you for your service.

But he was also just on Fox News like six months ago.

So I know it's not very strange.

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You know, Gaza,

we got got to talk.

I mean, that's the story.

That's sort of the story.

It's the peace deal.

So we would certainly cover that.

We would certainly cover that.

And, yeah, it's an interesting.

It's kind of an interesting story in the sense that Trump,

did he do a good thing?

I'm certainly.

Anyone, yeah, I mean, I would say that ending and

I would say that's a good thing.

I think

it is, yeah, it is interesting that it is like, I mean, he certainly was involved, and

that we probably

should talk about his role in that.

But it is also interesting that it's sort of the first thing that comes up with the story:

this hellish thing is finally come to an end.

And, like, put it in the context of good Trump or bad.

Is that like everything is political?

Is it a win?

Right.

Like, you all, yeah, you're almost afraid to say, good job, Trump.

Right.

Say it.

Me personally, I think Trump probably wants to turn the West Bank into a golf course.

So

it's kind of hard to really go like, hey, good job, bro.

Yes.

I also think

there wasn't a whole lot worse it could get.

Right.

Like it reached the end.

Right.

But.

And I think there's still a lot to the story is still unfolding in terms of this.

Correct.

But I mean, I hope any American president is constantly trying and working to bring more ceasefires and peace to the United States.

We have like incredible leverage as a country over the, and it's a shame it didn't happen sooner.

But

it seems like a good thing and good for him for

the event.

You know,

he seems like he cared about it, in which case, I'll say it.

Hey, Trump, nice job so far with this maybe, maybe ceasefire.

I feel like

dedicate yourself to peace from here on out, at home and abroad.

Yeah.

And maybe you get that award.

You know what ceasefire I'd love to see him work on next?

Yes.

The political violence ceasefire in the United States of America.

Nice job, Costa.

Nice.

Good take.

That's what we would have done on the show.

But sadly, we're in a podcast room with a sleepy dog.

So, yeah, we would have to cover Gaza.

We'd have to cover that.

Obviously, we would.

Yeah, I'd say on the show, there's always a have to cover.

Yeah.

And, like,

this has got some juice and it's just going to be fun to talk about.

And I feel like Gaza would just be a have-to-cover.

Do you think we would cover like the poppy Kim Kardashian's thong thing?

I don't know.

Because we kind of used to do some of that stuff.

I used to

be a little more.

I feel like maybe you could work it into a joke without making it a news story.

Kim Kardashian.

God, this Gaza ceasefire thing is hairier than

Kim Kardashian.

Kardashian's

pube thong.

Can you pull up the picture of that?

Pube thong.

She's good at getting people to.

We're talking about her.

Yeah.

Huh.

I mean,

I guess, why not?

I guess you just look extra naked then, you know what I mean?

I'm afraid that my pubes are so big that you wouldn't even know I was wearing that.

Right, no, I feel like

I was going to say.

Many fans are expressing confusion over the product.

That's fine.

Oh, there's white ones as well.

Oh, that's cool.

That's cool for all ages.

All ages.

Santa.

Yeah, all right, whatever.

You know, this fashion.

They don't, it's a shame they don't make a man's

brief.

Well, I'll tell you what, I wouldn't mind one of those, but the hair is on the backside.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

You just wear it backwards.

I don't think we would cover that.

No.

Another part of these, I don't know if it was because of, I think it was because of the ceasefire.

Trump was on the cover of Time magazine.

Did you see that cover?

No.

Speaking of funny photos,

Trump was on the cover of Time Magazine.

He loves being on cover.

And he was, he,

it's from an unflattering angle, and he even truth-socialed about it.

Bit of a neck vagina.

People have been saying online.

And so he was even like...

That's a troll.

Guys, come on.

That's a little bit of a troll.

It could be like a triumphant angle in a way that's like, you know, he's like,

he's

got the glory of the ceasefire, but

it's a tough angle.

The way that I would see this is time

is

giving him that

dictator shot.

I mean,

go watch some of these guys' speeches.

They were shot from that angle.

Yeah, yeah.

So they might be giving a little bit of that.

Are they truly trying to be complimentary here?

Do we feel?

Were there?

Let's find them.

Let's get a bad picture of him and be petty about it.

Yeah, I mean,

this doesn't paint him in a.

I mean, biologically speaking as a man.

Yeah.

You do get a little hard looking at that neck.

But thanks for saying biologically speaking.

You know, it's just,

it's not a political thing.

I don't love

making fun of...

You all done, dude?

You want to come over here?

The body shaming.

Yeah, I feel like as liberals we're like we shouldn't be fat phobic we shouldn't make fun of people's well especially when there's a strike fucking fat

trump well no i always you know what when i look i'm no uh i'm no saint i've certainly made fun of rfk jr's voice yeah i've i've taken those jokes and i've done them

but i try if we have time in the rewrite room and again i'm not patting myself on the back I try to say, you know, Mitch McConnell was an easy one to make fun of, and I always would say,

there's plenty to make fun of of this person about the character of the person.

Let's make fun of that.

Yeah.

And it's also like, I mean, the character they have some control over.

Yes, yes.

It's just so tempting.

It's so tempting.

And you got a daily show, and the show's, we got to be on the air in one hour, and we got to go.

I mean, I think time is kind of trolling Trump.

Yeah, I feel like that seems like they would.

What did Trump say about it?

One would think that, yeah, I don't know.

I guess his team didn't have any control over what he was doing.

Well, the magazine wrote a relatively good story about me, but the picture may the worst of all time capitalized they disappeared my hair and then had something floating on top of my head that looked like a floating crown but an extremely small one really weird I never like talk taking pictures from underneath angles but this is super bad picture and deserves to be called out why are they doing this and why yeah I mean it is I think they're kind of trolling them yeah I did yeah you know this this this is going down as long as it continues to happen it's gonna go down as a positive moment in the Trump presidency.

Right.

So I do think the media shouldn't be afraid to say, good job, we have a ceasefire.

I noticed yesterday, and this is something we could definitely make fun of on the show,

it was like, okay, but what's next?

What's next?

It's like, hey, if a good thing happened, let's like, we can celebrate it.

Yeah.

You know, so.

Good on him.

Good on him.

Yep.

What else?

Well, we got some things we can look forward to.

We can get to the forecasting of stories that we probably won't actually cover because probably something crazy will happen, as it often does.

But

there's a no-kings protest this weekend in New York City.

I'll be going to that.

And I should mention, go to nokings.org and you can see

thousands of no-kings protests all around the country.

Wow.

And again, what's cool about this, ladies and gentlemen, this is not partisan.

So scroll down a little bit, Alan.

You'll see the map.

Look at this.

Wow.

Isn't that crazy?

So this is non-partisan.

This is.

There's one in Mexico.

Oh, they've got them all around the globe.

Oh, this guy was drunk over putting these dots on here.

So also, I recommend, and this ties into the government shutdown.

I just reread the Declaration of Independence,

which when you go to the National Archives website, the first pop-up is like, we're closed because the government shutdown, which I thought was interesting.

But you can still read the text.

Like 80% of the Declaration of Independence is bitching about the tyranny of the English king.

And I do think it's...

The whole thing was that it was.

I mean, more or less.

It's like

we're all created.

Yeah, exactly, exactly.

Correct.

But I just hope Americans realize the foundation of this country, truly, the foundational document before the Constitution is we don't want your fucking kingship.

Get this shit out of our face.

Right.

You don't have to be Democrat, Republican, Green Party, Ralph Nader.

That's just a foundation of

this country.

We want to to be able to elect representatives.

That's why we threw a bunch of tea into the...

That's why we threw tea.

We want to not have to house your troops.

We want to have a trial by jury.

We want to have a fair trial.

All this shit.

Anyways, if you support that,

that's happening this Saturday in a city near you.

Oh,

this isn't.

Because there's been a few, right?

There have been previous No Kings protests, and I don't know when the last one was, but I'm hoping they do these frequently.

What's your vibe at a protest?

Sign?

Sign?

No, I wear one of those Kim Kardashian thong things.

Yeah.

Backwards.

That's a good question.

I haven't really thought about my wardrobe yet.

It's like

perfect weather for really anything, including marching

to defend your liberties.

Yeah, your liberties.

Now that we're talking about it, I almost want to dress as a king and then have people kind of like beat me up or something.

Yeah, sort of like a satirical talk about

that's the kind of thing that gets me excited.

Groups of people kicking the shit out of me.

Yeah, this is an easy one, in my opinion, to get behind.

Yeah,

some certain marches can get hyper-specific, but this one's pretty

should be something most people can get behind.

I think so.

What else is going on?

What else we got?

We got the NBA beginning.

Are you a basketball guy?

I like basketball.

That's not circled on my calendar.

Yeah, I feel like I don't start paying attention really to basketball until the new year.

Baseball playoffs happening.

Sometimes we do sports on the show.

We've got a little sports war segment.

Baseball's heating up.

Are you a baseball guy?

I'm a Tigers guy.

They lost.

They're out.

But I do like baseball.

October baseball's fun.

October baseball.

I know.

I like

watching pitching.

I like watching how they make the ball do weird things.

Oh, yeah.

That's cool.

How did you do that?

Yeah, I'm a Phillies guy.

They also lost

round.

And it is at a point where in my life where I can really only watch my teams.

I can't.

Yeah.

When I was a younger man, I could just watch sports six nights a week.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

It was on in the background.

If you have a family or people that love you, it's hard to really commit to sports.

Yes.

There's also the big mayoral debate in New York City.

I probably will watch that.

Yeah,

that'll be interesting.

Somehow, Cuomo lost the primary, but is back.

He's back.

And Eric Adams is not running with you.

Yes.

And apparently, I guess he gave a speech to a bunch of his staffers and was like, I got an amazing new job,

but didn't say what it was.

Who, Eric Adams?

Yeah.

He's like, this is something that's

just as cool as being the mayor, which seems like, unless he's bringing those staffers with him, it's sort of like a weird thing to be like, hey, weird flex.

Things are going good for me.

I think he's going to want some ambassadorship under Trump.

Yeah.

Seems like he's a Trump guy.

Yeah.

It seems like there was some sort of like get out of the race.

And

but Mom Dani, I was reading, I guess, did an interview with Fox News.

He's like trying to, you know,

something Democrats will do,

appeal to people that aren't on the line.

Yeah.

I'll tell you what, my friends that don't live in New York City have a lot of opinions about Mom Dani.

And I'm like, holy shit, guys, this is crazy that you care this much.

About, like, yeah, I've gotten like the grocery store thing.

It's like, he wants to open up

a public grocery store.

It's like, hey, man, like, I'm paying like $9 for a can of beans if someone wants to.

It's just funny that everyone has an opinion about New York City, but as soon as you tell them that Kansas City sucks, they think you're like an elitist.

Yeah,

I got to start ripping on other cities.

Yeah.

They're very not afraid to make fun of New York City.

So whoever's running Topeka, Kansas, suck.

Fucking sucks.

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Let's do a segment called The Daily Show and Tell.

Oh, I like this.

What do we do?

You're going to tell, you're going to show us or tell us something that you've watched, read, listened to, argued about, something that's just been on your mind lately that you've liked, hated, you know, just something.

Well, I shared earlier, you know, I did some fun reading on the Hatch Act.

Yeah.

I know that's not really.

You've been reading up.

That's actually, yeah, that's.

I just kind of like that stuff.

Yeah.

I like that

our

previous politicians and authors of our

government thought of this stuff.

Right.

Hey, we can't have people using politics in a position, in a civil servant position.

but what's interesting and most interesting to me is how do we enforce it and let me just share with you some therapy lessons okay creating boundaries is one thing enforcing the boundary is another thing so when i say to my family hey i'm not offering tickets to anybody for my stand-up show because it gets too complicated because you guys all change your mind all the time and then you need a friend of a friend wants a ticket and they go oh okay but then enforcing the boundary right when i get 900 phone calls and a text that says, like, but my cousin's friend's brother wants a ticket, enforcing is hard.

Yes.

Enforcing the boundary is hard.

And as a country, I think we have created.

That's where we are.

We've created good boundaries.

You're right, right.

Constitution, Bill of Rights, laws.

There used to be a shame

motivator

that sort of has gone away.

Or, yeah, the shame is not really an enforceable.

You know,

we need to enforce our boundaries.

So that might not have been a fun, cute daily show and tell, but that has what's been, that has,

but that is what's been on my mind lately.

Should I read the how long will it take me to read the Hatch Act?

I didn't even read the Hatch Act.

I just read about the Hatch Act.

Okay, cool.

That's what I'll do.

Yeah, no, I've, yeah, emoluments clause.

Yeah.

I remember that being a thing.

Maybe I'll give that a read.

Yeah, give that a read.

I don't even know what that is.

Maybe, I think it has to do with gifts, maybe.

Oh, yeah.

That's the other thing, like, with these fucking Supreme Court justices with their gifts.

Darvey's.

It's like, okay, we've created a boundary, but there's no real enforcement of anything.

Well, they don't even have a.

They don't even have a code of ethics.

They write their own code of ethics.

That's nice.

Yeah.

That's nice.

I love the

Texas billionaire.

His name is Harlan Crowe, which is such a

really funny, funny name.

Like, if you read a screenplay and the villain's name was Harlan Crowe, you'd be like, be like, well, it's a little too gimmicky.

Yeah, we'd soften that a little.

Okay, well, I.

What's your show and tell?

I don't know.

My show and tell is going to be this movie.

Yeah, let's talk about it.

That seems.

I know.

Hatchhack was kind of hard.

Hatchhack really.

What's the movie?

I saw this movie maybe a few months ago.

Me and Kabuka, who's another producer here,

went to see this Japanese movie called Cloud.

It's sort of this like guy gets involved in this sort of like e-commerce scam and then these like people sort of like

try to come to hurt him and it but it's very funny.

It takes all these sort of interesting turns

and that kind of is making me think of

that weird Adam Sandler movie Punch Drunk Love.

Oh, yeah.

Where he he gets like in over his head.

Yeah.

In over his head with this phone sex operator.

Yeah.

I need to get, I was like, did you have you seen one battle after another?

No, but that's been on my list.

I I enjoyed that I was gonna that that was I thought about making that my show until then I was like everybody's sort of heard about that movie so I like movies where people kill bad people like vigilante shit is that what I'm getting into um because I want I do want to see it people I guess like I like movies where someone does something wrong right

even if it's small like cuts cuts an old lady in the grocery store and then someone gets to kill that person it's not quite that

but it's there are like there is like people that are set up to be bad guys that eventually

there's warring factions and stuff.

And there is sort of like a political backdrop to it.

I guess some people on the right are upset about because there's like a

left-wing revolutionaries thing,

which actually there was this

podcast, a great podcast about like the weather underground.

Are you familiar with the Bill Ayers and like all these revolutionaries in the 60s who were like bombing government buildings to protest the Vietnam War?

And then living in this underground.

And I think the podcast is one of these people's kids made the podcast about

their mom.

Highly recommend.

Sort of a

there's so much American history you aren't taught in public school.

And that was true.

Interesting.

So that can be another one of my show and tell.

And then there's a movie

with

Alan.

Help me out.

River Phoenix is in it, I believe.

Okay.

And

it's about them living in the underground.

And this young boy wants to,

I think it's called Running on Empty.

Okay.

Running on Empty.

Thank you, Alan.

I'm amazed Alan's still there.

That is also

a fun companion watch to one battle after another.

And an even funner companion piece to the Hatch Act, which I also

wait.

Go back to the description of running on empty.

They're living in the underground, and this teenage boy is sort of like dealing with wanting to actually have his own life and not like

running from the government.

Okay.

In 1971, Arthur and Annie Pope blew up a napalm lab to protest the war.

Ever since they've been on the run from the FBI, they choose their lives.

Well, it's funny you say this because I went to Vietnam and I went to the American War Museum, which is what they call it, by the way.

They don't go out to Vietnam.

They don't win anymore.

And that blew me away that it wasn't.

Yeah, no, I guess that makes sense.

That makes sense, right?

Of course it's called the American War.

We were on their,

like, we showed up there.

Yeah.

And there is a really, really, really heart-wrenching, extremely sad napalm exhibit.

Oh, my God.

And it is wild.

And after you see the pictures and the medical

consequences and you think you're done with it, I mean, you're crying.

You're watching, like, you see.

Or then our country did to these.

Yeah, it's so terrible that we, like, threw liquid fire on their crops, their homes, their kids.

It's terrible.

Then, as you leave that exhibit, there's a bunch of napalm victims who are alive

or are

children of napalm victims, and they're all...

They're all messed up physically.

And they're standing there and

thing.

They're at the thing.

And like, they're asking for donations.

And they're also just there as a final, like, see how fucking stuff this is.

It's fucking real.

And it happened not that long ago.

Exactly.

And, like, there's still birth defects that occur still to this day.

Yeah, wasn't there like Agent Orange?

Yeah, Agent Orange, I think, is what.

Yeah.

Anyways.

Positive thing to end this podcast on.

Yeah.

But

interesting, too.

Yeah, no, it is, it is, there is, like, when you're traveling and you, you know, I went to Germany, went to the Holocaust Museum.

it is like there's a certain like heaviness that you feel that you should engage with like and

and

you got to read the hatch act I think you got to read the hatch act no but as a human we need to be

we've we do amazing things and we do terrible things and we need to cover both yeah no no no and it is like

you feel like you're doing your due diligence to yeah to like engage with these like insanely dark things yeah insanely dark things Anyways, I'm hosting next week, ladies and gentlemen.

It won't be this dark.

All right, that's our time.

Costa, we learned a lot today.

Let's save something for the actual show, though.

I'm Zach Delanzo.

Hey, write some funny stuff next week.

You always do.

I always read the jokes and I go, that's a Zach joke.

Yes, thank you.

Usually my initials are after it, too.

That's true.

It does sound like that you've signed it.

Thanks, Costa.

Thank you, Walter.

Thanks for all the help pre-capping for us today.

And yeah, check out the Daily Show hosted by Michael Costa this week.

Thanks, everybody.

Talk to you later.

Bye.

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