The Precap | Jordan Klepper on Mamdani's Take-Out Orders and Trump's Nuke Tests

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Speaker 2 I turned off news altogether.

Speaker 2 I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything.

Speaker 3 It's the rage bait.

Speaker 2 It feels like it's trying to divide people.

Speaker 2 We got clear facts. Maybe we could calm down a little.

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Let's move forward from there. NBC News, reporting for America.

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Speaker 3 Devin, are you ready?

Speaker 2 Devin. Am I ready?

Speaker 3 This first part, it's two lines of script, but he's nervous. He's like, Should I make eye contact here? Should I pretend like I'm casually reading?

Speaker 3 If I casually read, do I have to keep my eyeline on these words the entire time? Are we going to play this? I don't know.

Speaker 2 You know what you do the Jordan Clepper thing to me? Don't Jordan Clepper me.

Speaker 3 You do this to other people.

Speaker 2 You don't do this to people in the building.

Speaker 3 Let me turn it on you.

Speaker 2 Hello, and welcome to the precap, where we sit down with this week's daily show host to preview what's coming up and recap some of the news we might have missed. My name is Devin DeLaCuanti.

Speaker 2 I'm a writer at the show, and I'm joined today by the

Speaker 2 Jordan Clepper. Hello, Jordan.
Hello, Devin. There's applause.
Yes.

Speaker 3 Is there applause on these podcasts? There should be.

Speaker 2 In your mind, yes.

Speaker 3 There should be. There always is.

Speaker 3 Every podcast they do, there's applause, there's size, and eventually there's clicking off after about 12 minutes when they realize it's just another podcast with people talking.

Speaker 3 But that's not what this is.

Speaker 2 That's not what this is. This is the greatest podcast.
This is the podcast. All the people want...
They want to know what you missed, and they want to know what you're not going to miss.

Speaker 3 We live somewhere in the middle here. This is about what you're going to see this week on the show, but also what we missed.
Last week on the show, we're sort of in the, we're edging.

Speaker 3 This is daily show edges right now.

Speaker 2 Seamless transition. What did we miss last week, Jordan? What did you miss? What has your week been like?

Speaker 3 My week has been being stuck on a tarmac because of the government shutdown and weather that has attacked the East Coast. So this is the problem.

Speaker 3 When you get to host the daily show, you get to sit behind a desk. They put you in a beautiful suit.
The audience laughs at your jokes. It's very cushy.
Life is pretty good. Very good.
Life is pretty.

Speaker 3 If you're Jon Stewart, you come in once a week and get to do that. I like that.
That's a great job. Great job.
Everybody should be Jon Stewart.

Speaker 3 But when you're not, occasionally, when you're not hosting the show, you go out into the world, you talk to people.

Speaker 3 I traveled out into the world, and getting back to New York City was an impossibility this week. So I spent a lot of time on the tarmac in Memphis

Speaker 3 because the TSA all across the country is understaffed because it turns out we don't fund the TSA. We send that money elsewhere or we say no to make political points.

Speaker 3 Yes, I've been on the road a bunch in the last couple weeks for some stand-up shows and for daily show stuff and

Speaker 3 most of my flights have been delayed, canceled.

Speaker 3 Three times in the last two weeks, I've gone up in the air, circled so many times that we ran out of gas and had to land somewhere else. I spent a day in Shreveport.
We landed in Philly.

Speaker 3 Yesterday we were in D.C. We went from Memphis to D.C.

Speaker 3 to New York because the weather is crappy and also they have like two people who are working air traffic control right now and they're not getting paid they're not getting paid so they're doing more work for no money they're doing yeah the people who work at air traffic control are not getting paid so they have to they have to land a plane then they take an uber order and then they go drop off uh they pick somebody up with uber they do a grub hub drop off get a little bit of money come back to the airport so then they can land another plane so it's taking a while if only there was some sort of way that we could elect people who could be in positions of power who could negotiate in good faith ways in which to pay other people that help the greater good and our community at large.

Speaker 3 That would be a system that could work well.

Speaker 2 It has to be a lot of people. Now you're just being irrational.
You're right.

Speaker 2 Come on, what are you talking about? A pie in the sky.

Speaker 2 The pie is in the sky because it has not been cleared for landing.

Speaker 3 Get the pie down on the ground.

Speaker 2 We're hungry.

Speaker 3 Bring the pie down to the ground.

Speaker 2 The pie is circling Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 It's going to be.

Speaker 2 I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 I'm sorry. Yeah, we're not going to be able to land that pie in New York City.
We don't have a gate for the pie. Oh, my God.

Speaker 3 There's so many pies in Shreveport right now just getting gas, waiting to go somewhere else.

Speaker 3 So I've missed. I've caught bits and pieces.
I've missed big stories this past week.

Speaker 3 I've seen images of Donald Trump being

Speaker 3 kissed up to around the globe.

Speaker 2 Regaled. Yeah, Whirlwind Asia trip.

Speaker 3 What have I missed?

Speaker 3 What was happening this week?

Speaker 2 He was in Japan, and Japan, then to South Korea, then to China, doing a kind of whirlwind trip in order to, I think, secure trade deals and

Speaker 2 let them continue. You know, look, when you're doing a renovation at your house, you don't want to be there.
You want to make sure that you go somewhere else. You want to have a place.

Speaker 2 You're like, yeah, there's a lot of construction noise. Once the demolition is done, you're like, all right, I trust that they know what they're going to do.
I'll check in with it.

Speaker 2 I'll have them text me pictures.

Speaker 3 Any home renovation is where you go through your phone and you're like, who's that college friend that I like? They're not on my first tier of people. I visit when I have time off.

Speaker 3 But let me get to that second tier. And maybe this is the time that I go to Billings to stay with Ron from high school to just see what things are about.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we'll see if Xi Ji Ping has a futon that I can crash on for a week while my neighbors text me pictures of the renovation that's happening at the East Wing.

Speaker 3 Some of these details blow my mind in that.

Speaker 3 You know, everybody kowtows to the lovely Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 These images from South Korea, I heard that he was given a gold crown.

Speaker 2 They did give him a crown, yes. They presented him with a crown.
It was a replica crown or something? It wasn't like a crown crown? No, nobody's given that work.

Speaker 3 In order to do that, you got to steal that from the Louvre. If you want a crown crown, put in the work.
But Trump doesn't know. He only has replicas in his office.

Speaker 3 He just gold plated, something shiny. They gave him beef sliders with ketchup on it.

Speaker 3 Can you imagine?

Speaker 3 Like, they treat him like a make-a-wish kid. Like, whatever he wants, just give it to him.
Make him feel like king for the day.

Speaker 3 That's what, that's, that's the mo for donald trump but if he had just a modicum of of taste or interest in culture he could go anywhere in the world and they would trot out the the stories of all mankind the the antiquities of every every culture they would he would have access to all the world's knowledge and yet a man with that type of access gets what he puts out into the world which ends up being an overcooked beef slider i don't know if you saw this video this week but it was incredibly funny.

Speaker 2 So he landed, I think it was in South Korea, and there was a band to greet him that was playing and they were playing YMCA. They were playing like,

Speaker 2 and I just think, like, imagine you're a classical musician that is trained your whole life and you can play the harp or the piano and you're the best that you've ever been.

Speaker 2 You're like, I have to learn YMCA

Speaker 2 so he can do the dance when he's on the tarmac.

Speaker 2 That's a tough position.

Speaker 3 Yeah. It's like, it's like grumpy people who like don't like country music, but go to to Nashville and be like, there's just no place that was playing the music that I like.

Speaker 3 It's like, you're in Nashville. Listen to some country music.
Take it in. You can live outside yourself for one freaking second, but not Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 It was funny to see the difference between Japan has a new prime minister, and

Speaker 2 she was being very gracious. She was a very lovely host to the president.
Then South Korea, also very welcoming. And then Xi Jiping came in for a handshake that was incredibly

Speaker 2 just very cold.

Speaker 2 like i was look i was watching that handshake like babe are you mad at me like you're you seem like you're mad at me it had that feeling of oh this is very very tense but the handshake lasted for so long it felt like you know that the the horror movie together the allison bree and dave franco movie where they fuse at the lips

Speaker 2 you're ruining it for me you're ruining it for me it's on the poster they're fused on the poster um it felt like that for their hands that they were just fused together and that they were gonna have to live their lives that way for the rest of the summit but uh yeah this is one of the tragedies of going back to electing very old people for leadership positions like Barack Obama brought the

Speaker 3 the fist bump to some acclaim and to some criticism sure but it was an attempt to evolve the the handshake the greeting and now we've we've gone back to Donald Trump fighting with people with a heavy handshake a hardcore grip like very a very 1980s man kind of handshake Where if we had gone, kept going younger, kept going more modern, like where would we be right now?

Speaker 3 There might be snaps involved, there could be like little finger touches, maybe soft glances, maybe even just like

Speaker 3 a giddy up finger point gun shoot. Like we could be in a really fun place internationally.

Speaker 3 I think it truly might be the most tragic thing about the political situation that we're in.

Speaker 2 International diplomacy needs the finger guns, says Jordan Klepper.

Speaker 3 This guy, somebody goes with like two finger guns and a little bit of like a shoulder movement? I mean, how fun would that be?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think a trade, you're getting a trade deal pretty quickly if you're coming in with the finger guns.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I want all international diplomacy to look like a Vince Vaughan interaction.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And I will say,

Speaker 2 the handshakes have been taking a toll on the president. Like when you see, they're saying like, look, this guy shakes a lot of hands.
That's why it looks like an eggplant that died.

Speaker 2 It's a very, very,

Speaker 2 he's putting himself at risk with the handshakes. I've never seen that shade of purple in my life.

Speaker 3 We should have evolved it.

Speaker 3 It would have been better for him if he had figured out some casual way to interact with another human being that wasn't based on a status game that he didn't have to win every time

Speaker 3 his hands could be usable.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Xi Ji Ping, finger guns.
Everyone's fine. Great to see you.

Speaker 3 We're all good. Instead, this man's hands are pulp, and then he can't do auto-pen because I think he's taking, he's revoking that idea.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Auto pen doesn't work anymore.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you're painting yourself into a quarter DT.

Speaker 2 That's tough. That's very tough.

Speaker 2 So one of the things that came out of the summit, too, and the more

Speaker 2 sort of newsy side of it, is that I think trade tensions cooling between the United States and China. I think they postponed...

Speaker 2 There was going to be

Speaker 2 limits on the rare earth

Speaker 2 materials that the United States is getting, the rare earth minerals that we need for cell phones and microchips. And, you know, there's a microchip microchip in everything now.

Speaker 2 Like you buy a, like a refrigerator has to be Bluetooth for some reason. So you know when like your milk has expired.
You have to.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you have to. So those are the microchips and you need the rare earth minerals to make anything.

Speaker 2 Turns out America doesn't have a ton of the rare earth minerals, which who could have seen that coming?

Speaker 3 Yeah. If only they had googled the words rare.
Yeah. We could have been so far ahead of it.
This is, you got to give Chad a credit where they're like, oh, you want to fight about this?

Speaker 3 Oh, you want to be ticky tacky on these tariffs? Cool.

Speaker 2 Well, the rare earth thing.

Speaker 3 you don't get them anymore. Like, ah, do we have those?

Speaker 2 No, they're rare. Ah, damn it.
I wish we had known.

Speaker 2 So luckily, that has been postponed for a year. So we're apparently good.
But again, how did we not foresee that the rare earth minerals are rare?

Speaker 2 My son is seven years old. And like most seven-year-olds, he's into Pokemon cards.
And he knows that when you have a rare Pokemon card, you do not trade it. You do not start a trade fight.

Speaker 2 If someone has a rare Pokemon card that you want, and again, I cannot stress enough, he is seven years old and he understands the trade rules around rare.

Speaker 2 So I think this is a good step that we are trying to solve the rare earth minerals when we don't have them.

Speaker 3 I gave my five-year-old a pack of basketball cards. He has very little awareness of the game of basketball, even less awareness of the players on these basketball teams.

Speaker 3 But in that card set, there is one shiny card that is a rookie card. And that's what his first question was, is this the good one? Is this the rare one?

Speaker 3 And you say yes, and that is the one that lives, and the other ones just get strewn about the back of the car. Again, now even a five-year-old.

Speaker 3 But I think the Constitution says something about not being able to elect a five-year-old. But boy, we're really seeing the consequences.

Speaker 3 Those forefathers didn't understand the wisdom that is inherent in these children and the wisdom that gets lost in these elderly, elderly folks.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Also, the founding fathers didn't have Pokemon cards, and I think that that was a real problem for them.

Speaker 2 I think that was a problem. I really do.
That would have been good.

Speaker 2 I like the idea of the poke that your son has basketball cards and then you have to figure out the trade value of like Luka Doncic for Mewtwo or Snorlax. Like I don't even know how this translates.

Speaker 2 Like why? Yeah.

Speaker 3 I also don't know if basketball cards are worth it, I think, anymore.

Speaker 3 I had to kill time with my son and we were at a Target and

Speaker 3 the kid in me saw

Speaker 3 a whole wall of basketball cards and also those little plastic sleeves to hold them.

Speaker 2 And I was like, oh my god,

Speaker 3 I'm going to bring this into our life right now. And it was fun for a little bit, but again, I think you have to have a little bit of awareness of who these players are and if

Speaker 3 you can make money off of it. Somehow, you have to connect the Luka Donje card to crypto in a way that seems like a financial investment that is worthwhile of your time.

Speaker 2 So you got yourself a college fund, kid. You do.

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Speaker 2 All right, so that was the whirlwind trip through Asia. The other big news,

Speaker 2 I hope you saw this because I don't want to be telling it to you live on a podcast, but Trump announced that we will be testing nuclear weapons again after 30 years. So again, that's a pretty big,

Speaker 2 you know, trading negotiation chip, I would say. Maybe not a glowing rookie Luka Doncic card or whatever, but still

Speaker 2 nuclear weapons testing. Did that make it to you while you were on the tarmac? Were you glad to be circling Philadelphia?

Speaker 2 Because then you'd have to worry about the nuclear weapons testing happening on the ground.

Speaker 3 Yeah, good news, everybody. They're testing nuclear warheads somewhere, and you know it's going to be forced into a, I mean, who knows how he'll do it.

Speaker 3 Will he force it into a blue state where these warheads have to get exploded, or will he only give those job opportunities to red states? We will see how this gets politicized.

Speaker 3 This was one of those Trump

Speaker 3 examples where he throws out some historical fact that doesn't at all feel correct, that has you run to the internet where it's like, oh, okay, we're doing this again.

Speaker 3 This feels like this is not something that has happened in a while. And his argument of, well, we're doing this because everybody else is doing this now.
And so I'm like, really, really?

Speaker 3 And I think I quickly looked up. I was like, okay, the last nuclear test was, do you know when the last nuclear test globally was, Devin, De La Cuante?

Speaker 2 I know that the U.S. was 92 under Korean.

Speaker 2 U.S. was 92.

Speaker 3 North Korea was 2017.

Speaker 2 Okay. 2017, okay.

Speaker 3 The last Russian nuclear test 35 years ago.

Speaker 2 Wow, okay. Well, they had a lot going on 35 years ago.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 He's always,

Speaker 3 he blows these things up, and if your context shrinks and shoves until you're like, is this really happening in the world? Let me do one Google check. Oh, right.

Speaker 3 He's pulling this out of his ass and now creating chaos. We'll see if this man follows through on it.

Speaker 3 But yeah, great. I'm so glad to land in New York City to hear what this country is doing.

Speaker 2 You're like, can I go back in the sky, please? It's a great. Look, if you're going to be shortstaffed on TSA, you want it to happen when the nuclear tests are happening.

Speaker 3 And this is great, too, because most of the planes I'm on don't have Wi-Fi.

Speaker 3 They only have broken Biscotti cookies.

Speaker 3 So you really go up there and you are away. You are away from the chaos.
It's a beautiful, beautiful thing for one shiny moment.

Speaker 2 My question is, did we already do the nuclear test on the East Wing? Because that's kind of how it it looks. It's just completely gone.
And I'm like, look, that's a real two birds, one stone thing.

Speaker 2 You're like, I got to do this demolition of the East Wing, and I got to test the nuclear weapons. Look, this is a problem that solves itself.

Speaker 3 I mean, this is where you have to keep him away from 90s action movies.

Speaker 3 Every third movie had a version of the White House exploding in a dramatic fashion. And this guy could put those two things on the movies.

Speaker 2 Independence Day.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 There was something down. Was it a White House down?

Speaker 3 Not an Air Force down.

Speaker 2 I think that was 2000s.

Speaker 3 You might have been right.

Speaker 3 It might be a Tatum.

Speaker 2 Oh, you're going to quiz me about nuclear tests. I'm going to quiz you about disaster movies.

Speaker 3 Yeah, give me the years. Yeah,

Speaker 3 what was the last disaster movie that starred?

Speaker 2 I've got Michael Bay.

Speaker 2 I don't know. Yeah, was it White House Down? Olympus Has Fallen? That was another one.

Speaker 3 Those both came out like the same year, right? Wasn't that

Speaker 3 early 2010s, maybe?

Speaker 2 That sounds right to me, yes. The movie Civil War had a whole sequence in the White House, but that was just more kind of intense military, not necessarily a destruction of the White House.

Speaker 3 That was like militia-based

Speaker 2 White House destruction. With friend of the show, Nick Offerman, as the president.

Speaker 3 The lovely Nick Offerman. That guy could do no wrong.

Speaker 3 Even as being an awful president in a film like that, he still does no wrong.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Oh, we're getting a White House down 2013.

Speaker 2 This is the kind of research you get when you work at the Daily Show.

Speaker 3 No notes about the other nuclear tests that took place.

Speaker 2 Nothing. Pop culture stuff, we got it.
I can tell you the exact year that the White House was destroyed in the movie Independence Day and by which aliens.

Speaker 3 Hey, you worked with Nick Offerman on the piece that he did a mother's ago, didn't you? I did, yes.

Speaker 2 Back in July, about the national parks. It was about how the national parks were having problems with the bathrooms and were short-staffed.

Speaker 2 And luckily, that problem is solved because they're totally closed now

Speaker 2 because of the government shutdown. And oh, that was another thing.
I don't know if this made it to you while you were in the skies this week, but

Speaker 2 there are people who are going to El Capitan and base jumping. So they're doing, they're going to the top.

Speaker 2 And normally they would have to do it very early in the morning because they would be stopped,

Speaker 2 or the staff would stop them. But because no one is staffing them, they're just jumping with parachutes off the top and landing in broad daylight doing

Speaker 2 base jumping, that kind of thing. That's wild.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah, to think of like

Speaker 3 the national parks can become even more overground and more open to nature.

Speaker 3 It's like I am legend, but for the national parks.

Speaker 2 Yes. Well, I think it's a problem because the government shutdown is impacting people's lives in a very negative way.

Speaker 2 But then there's this thing where I'm like, that is kind of awesome to have somebody jumping with a parachute off the top of a big cliff at the national park. I don't know how to argue with that.

Speaker 2 I'm like, that's, yeah.

Speaker 2 Like, you don't think like, well, the fundamentals of government are breaking down, but it does mean someone's going to jump over Snake River Canyon and land it on the other side, and that's pretty great.

Speaker 3 This is the new skills that Americans have to work with it. It's like, oh, okay, what happens when the government shuts down? Find your joy in that space because it could happen a lot.

Speaker 2 Yeah. We could just do some awesome stunts over our crumbling infrastructure, and that's going to be really cool.

Speaker 3 Yeah, a skate park in the old abandoned USAID building. Great.

Speaker 2 We should just give the keys of the government to Michael Bay so he can make awesome disaster movies, but with our actual landmarks and everything. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 Oh, it's cool. Yeah.
Yeah. I got, I got a

Speaker 3 invitation for a paintball experience inside the EPA building. I can't wait for it.

Speaker 2 It's going to be a blast. Wow.
And it's lead paint in the paintballs too. That's even worse.
It's a real slap in the face.

Speaker 2 So yeah, that's been part of the government shutdown. But yeah, no, Offerman, very passionate about the national parks.
And

Speaker 3 what I remember is

Speaker 3 he brought you scotch.

Speaker 2 He did.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he had lagavulin.

Speaker 4 He did bring in some lagavin.

Speaker 3 That is a classy move. That is a classy move.

Speaker 3 He worked with you guys. He brought in lagavoolin.
Oh, and all I could think was, I was hosting that week. Why didn't I get a bottle of lagavulin?

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 3 No, but if you're listening to the podcast, Nick, I want my scotch.

Speaker 2 He brought it to us. No, I mean, Nick, what does the host really do for you? The writers are here for you to

Speaker 2 do.

Speaker 3 I presented. I presented Nick Offerman.
Presenting. That's not an easy thing.
Present.

Speaker 2 Nick Offerman. You know, when we initially talked about doing that pitch,

Speaker 2 he was interested and wanted to come talk about it. But they were like, oh, you know, he's like the busiest man in Hollywood.
He's in so many movies and everything.

Speaker 2 So like, as soon as he's free, he's going to come and do it. And then I went to see Mission Impossible, whatever it was, seven or eight,

Speaker 2 the most recent Mission Impossible. And he was in like a nuclear bunker, having to decide whether every country in the world needed to be nuked.
And I was like, man, this guy really is busy.

Speaker 2 I probably shouldn't put anything more on his plate. He has to figure out whether humanity lives or dies in a nuclear apocalypse.

Speaker 2 I'm like, I'll chill out on the national park script that we hope he's excited about.

Speaker 3 Need to get it back on because it is true.

Speaker 3 He has been cast in so many situations that are truly the end of the world or the world at the brink of apocalypse where he's the president as the democracy collapses.

Speaker 3 Mission impossible where it is as plastic. The last of us, he's at sort of an end of the world or post-apocalyptic situation.

Speaker 3 He's really found a niche in the American psyche that's like, huh, who's going to be there when it all collapses?

Speaker 2 Look, if you're going to be left with one man to rebuild humanity, it's got to be Nick Offerman. I support it.
I totally do. That's it.

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Speaker 2 So, yeah, so I guess that's sort of the summary of what we missed.

Speaker 2 How are you feeling about next week when you're behind the desk? What are the things you're looking at? What's sort of, what have you been noodling on while

Speaker 2 you've been getting ready to host the show?

Speaker 3 Well, it's election week. So definitely in New York,

Speaker 3 we have a big mayoral election, so people are talking about that here.

Speaker 3 It's also exciting. New York has,

Speaker 3 we now have early voting, so people are voting around town, which

Speaker 3 just as a citizen of this great country, it's so nice to actually have voting be so accessible.

Speaker 3 I'm excited to see, quite frankly, just how many people show up and vote an early vote because they seem to make it very easy, at least in my neck of the woods, to

Speaker 3 vote. And we will see.
Do they go with the Curtis Sleewa, who's who's a man of many cats?

Speaker 3 Do we have old school Andrew Cuomo who has taken off the gloves and decided that racism is something that can be really fun to play with on all election day?

Speaker 2 It's a real throwback. It's a real throwback.

Speaker 3 Or do we welcome in communism with Zoran? Who knows? You know,

Speaker 3 Antifa communism is on the ballots.

Speaker 2 If you're watching, New York City has to decide.

Speaker 3 You have to decide. Boy, and you're also watching New York media ramp up with what the post puts on its front pages, what the ads are.

Speaker 3 So we're we're really we're really feeling it right now in New York City. So that's Tuesday.
It will be very compelling to see what happens in New York, how people frame it in New York.

Speaker 3 And also there's some big governor races that are taking place that I'm sure

Speaker 3 people will piece.

Speaker 3 What does it mean about the Democratic Party? What does it mean about the state of the nation in general? And we will have fun both with the results and with the hysteria surrounding the results.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I think the one thing that we know for sure is whatever the message is out of Election Day on Tuesday, the media will overblow it and misunderstand it because it was less than a year ago where they're like new york city has moved very far to the right donald trump did much better in in new york city and the the surrounding areas uh and so you know it's clear that there's a rejection of uh of the democratic party and leftism in general and then the next year it's like so a communist is going to be the mayor of new york city it's like we don't know we don't know what it's going to be.

Speaker 2 But yeah, so you know, for a year it was like, well, it's, you know, the whole country's moving right. Now it's like, I think we're going to put up a Berlin Wall in America.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 It's funny when I travel outside, too, because this local race has become such a national race, at least if you're into politics. And so people are always asking me about what's happening there.
And

Speaker 3 quite frankly, I feel people are getting too caught up in the...

Speaker 3 the politics of it. Yes, Mom Donny considers himself a Democratic Socialist.
That is part of the conversation. That is a big part of the conversation.

Speaker 3 And yet, when I talk to people around New York City and you see such a rejection of Cuomo at the primary stages,

Speaker 3 what seems like it really cuts through is the authenticity argument. And Cuomo has adopted such Trumpian tactics in the way in which he's

Speaker 3 politicking right now that I just feel pushing everybody away.

Speaker 3 And there's a larger conversation as to what the Democratic Party wants, especially in a place like New York, which is not like the rest of America. But

Speaker 3 I see a lot lot of people responding to leftist ideas, but more so than that, somebody who is not playing with such an old playbook. Andrew Cuomo had stability to a lot of New Yorkers.

Speaker 3 I know a lot of people who had felt connections to him during the pandemic, before some of the information came out about what was going on at the nursing homes.

Speaker 3 But still, there was like a steadiness to his moderation. But he has engaged in such Trumpian tactics.
that have become vile. They feel inauthentic to who he is portraying himself as.

Speaker 3 They feel desperate. He's been cornered in a way and has become so cruel in his...

Speaker 3 He's revealed a cruelty to his person that,

Speaker 3 quite frankly, you're not seeing in the Mamdani campaign. And so, I don't know.
We'll see what all the pundits have to say about what happens on Tuesday.

Speaker 3 And I'm sure they will make it about the politics of a democratic socialist if he is victorious. But so much of it to me is about...

Speaker 3 what feels authentic, what feels outside of the morass of political bullshit right now. I think that is what is resonating most with the people that I talk to.

Speaker 2 One thing I will say about the Mamdani campaign is

Speaker 2 he is so skilled at running for mayor of New York. Like, I've never seen someone who has run a better campaign just within New York.

Speaker 2 And an example of that is you and I were at the final Wu-Tang clan concert. And

Speaker 2 then all of a sudden, as we were there,

Speaker 2 Run the Jewels opened, then the Wu-Tang clan comes out, and then it started making its way through the crowd. That Zoran Mamdani was here.

Speaker 2 And I just remember thinking, this is a man who knows how to run for mayor of New York City

Speaker 2 of all the places to show up. Like, you'll see people at Knicks games or at Yankee games, and they'll wave on the Jumbotron.

Speaker 2 It's like, oh, he's here to see the Rizza, the Jizza, the Ghost Face Killer. You're like, there is, like, he's trying to win Staten Island, too, which is trying to put Cuomo and Sleebo on their heels.

Speaker 2 Like, that's the kind of thing where you think that is such a, it was such a feeling and an energy in that room of the final Wu-Tang show in the garden. And he's like, Yeah, I got to be there.

Speaker 2 You're like, that's someone who, you know, all the talk about is he a New Yorker. You know, he was from Uganda.
I'm like, this is someone who's like New York through and through.

Speaker 2 If he's showing up to that show, there was such an energy at that show.

Speaker 3 This is Cuomo. Cuomo might have shown up and shook Rizza's hand and then left.
But Mom Donnie gets there and he remembers Inspectedk, you God, Ghostface, Raykwan the chef. He puts in the time.
R.I.P.

Speaker 2 the ODB.

Speaker 3 R.I.P. the ODB, but I think ODB's son was there I'm sure he I'm sure he had some face time with him yeah I think you are right actually there was

Speaker 2 there was energy around him being there which is is it's cool to see you want somebody who feels like they are part of this city and part of that conversation yeah and I think that's one of the disconnects that I've felt in in following this mayoral race is they're saying like oh you the kind of implication that momdani is not one of us and you're like everywhere he go it's like he is living the experience of New York that I am living in a way that Cuomo is not.

Speaker 2 And that's a really interesting disconnect because I've lived in New York City for over 20 years. I've, you know, I'm around Zoron's district.
So I have the same experience that he does of the city.

Speaker 2 So, with this idea that he's like this outsider, this scary other, it's like it doesn't resonate with me at all. Cause I'm like, this is just a guy who seems like he's in and around my neighborhood.

Speaker 2 And so it's not, it doesn't hit the same way. The other thing I will say is, Mamdani's done a lot of press, obviously, in this campaign.

Speaker 2 And every time he mentions a restaurant, it is on point the recommendation.

Speaker 2 To the point where he did an interview with like the New York Times or something, and he listed, like, they were like, What are your favorite restaurants? And he listed three places.

Speaker 2 And I ran home and I was like, babe, Kebab King is in our delivery zone. We've got like, Mom Donnie just dropped it.
We're like, get on there.

Speaker 2 And it was like in 30 minutes, we're like, we got to get the chicken biryani. And it was so good.

Speaker 2 And then we're like, oh, to the point that there are on the Astoria Reddit forum, there is a thread about all of the restaurants that Mamdani has recommended where people have like put them together and everyone's like, oh, I love, you know, Abu Kir, the seafood place, or like on the Daily Show this week, he recommended Mahmood's, a place on Steinway.

Speaker 2 And there was the first tier of people who are like, oh, I love all these restaurants. And then there was the backlash tier of like, he's blowing up all our good restaurants.

Speaker 2 Why can't he go and just be like, yeah, you know, the McDonald's on 31st Street's pretty good. Why don't you order from that? So.

Speaker 3 That is the fine line. That's what does he do as a politician? Does he get the cred of the good reference?

Speaker 3 Or does he not blow it up and ruin it for all the locals who are like, this is our spot. We found it.

Speaker 3 Send them to something. Send them to a B plus.
Don't send them to an A plus. The A plus, we put in the hard work.
It is our little secret.

Speaker 2 And yeah.

Speaker 2 But there is a part of me that's worried that if he wins.

Speaker 2 Everyone's talking about like, oh, if a Democratic Socialists take over, I'm like, if this guy moves out of my delivery zone, my food quality is going to go down. So I don't know how to feel about it.

Speaker 2 But if he stays in the delivery zone, are all these places going to blow up and be, you know, too, too crowded? It's this is, these are the issues that New Yorkers are worried about.

Speaker 3 This is why you show up at the polls. You have to have your voice heard.

Speaker 2 Yes. Yeah.
And know

Speaker 2 where your good Biryani spot is, where you get the best seafood in your neighborhood. And look, I don't, to be fair, to give equal time to both candidates.
I know that's not a law anymore, but

Speaker 2 Andrew Cromo did an interview and he was asked what his favorite restaurant in the city was, and he said

Speaker 2 Fresco Biscato.

Speaker 2 And that's a, it's on Madison Avenue. And there was this great video where

Speaker 2 the person who was interviewing him was like, what kind of food is that? Which you'd think you'd be able to tease together. Fresco Biscato, Andrew Cuomo is an Italian place.

Speaker 2 But so it led to one of my favorite sound bites of the week. And we can play it for you right now.
Take a look. Who is it?

Speaker 11 Sounds Italian. Italiano.
Yeah, come on, classic. Lasagna.

Speaker 3 the natural just he's just like one of us

Speaker 11 it was pretty good italiano yeah come on classic lasagna

Speaker 2 I have been walking around my apartment just saying that to myself for like a week and a half now. I'm just doing the dishes going, Italiano, lasagna.

Speaker 3 All of this cultural stuff you get in all of the political campaigns, but I do think you learn a lot from somebody as to what their true taste is,

Speaker 3 what food they like, the recommendations they have. You have those friends who have good food recommendations, have good music recommendations.
You trust them. You understand them.
You understand what

Speaker 3 their point of view is. And from a food perspective,

Speaker 3 like that is a very trusted position.

Speaker 3 Like, I have so few nights out with a child and with work that if I'm going out once a month or so to a restaurant it better be a good ass wreck that person needs to understand the things that i like the experience i want to have the uh price range i want to play within how far away i want to go to it like that is a that is a delicate piece of information that i i only have a few people that i would ask that from or take that recommendation from and if you are somebody who is savvy enough to know what people might like

Speaker 3 what what types of things appeal to most people and yet is specific enough that it's not trying to appeal to everybody Like that, that, you know, that is a,

Speaker 3 I'll take that litmus test more than I'll take a litmus test on, you know, what you'll do with the roads, what you'll do to the housing. Like, let me know.

Speaker 3 Biryani spots in Astoria, do you have an inn?

Speaker 3 Andrew Cuomo, maybe I'd go to him for basic lasagna in Midtown. Yeah.

Speaker 3 He probably knows how to find lasagna in Midtown.

Speaker 2 He knows the Italiano. He knows the lasagna.

Speaker 3 Sliwa, what about Sliwa? Sliwa knows how to, he's like,

Speaker 3 I'll tell you how to make tacos in a bag. Do you know tacos in a bag? You take ground beef, you put it in a Ziploc bag, you crunch up some Doritos.

Speaker 3 I can, yeah, I know, I know a lady who makes it out of her house. Go to that spot, which you know what? I also respect.
If you can find a good taco in a bag in New York City, God bless you.

Speaker 3 I bet Sleewa can help.

Speaker 2 I will say he is famously a cat guy, that he has a lot of cats and has talked about moving them into Gracie Mansion. I bet Sleewa knows exactly the bodega to get the cheapest fancy feast.

Speaker 2 Where they have like the back bodega. He probably knows the owner and the the bodega cat by name.
He's shaking the paw on the way in. So, you know.

Speaker 3 Sleewa's got, he's got the bodega cat vote in the bag.

Speaker 2 Does he ever?

Speaker 3 That he has.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I uh it's funny.

Speaker 2 I looked into the Cuomo restaurant once he recommended it because I'm like, you know, I want to be fair here.

Speaker 2 And what I didn't appreciate is Fresco by Scotto owned by Rosanna Scoto, who is the Good Day New York anchor. She and her family own that Italian restaurant that it's

Speaker 2 local New York celebrity-owned.

Speaker 2 It's our version of the Michael Jordan Steakhouse in New York City. It's Rosanna Scoto's Italian joint with lasagna.

Speaker 3 I tell you,

Speaker 3 if you're in Chicago and a mayoral candidate recommended the Michael Jordan Steakhouse as the place to go to, I'm not mad at it. You know, I'm, in fact,

Speaker 3 lean in, lean in hard.

Speaker 2 Yeah. My roommate in college we went out to chicago first bachelor parties from there like michael jordan steakhouse great

Speaker 2 and i will uh i'll i'll blow up my uh my office made at work scott herkman he i was talking to him about this he said he had a birthday at fresco biscato and he enjoyed it but the reason he enjoyed it is because uh they only charged him a hundred dollars per person for an open bar and he's like i drank way more than a hundred dollars and so did my friends and i asked him how was the food and he said i don't remember because of all the tequila shots.

Speaker 2 So Fresco Voscato, apparently a very good place welcoming for the birthday and food that you might not remember because the open bar is so welcoming.

Speaker 3 Boy,

Speaker 3 that very much just tells you how young Scott is. Yeah.
Where like he's like, oh, if I know a place where you can drink as much as you want for $100, we're going.

Speaker 2 Scott. Fresco Boscato.

Speaker 3 Fresco Viscato. Blow that shit up.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And if you like it, owned by a local news legend, Rosanna Scott.

Speaker 2 That's the move.

Speaker 2 So, yeah, those are the issues that are important to us in the New York City election.

Speaker 3 Trust me, if you, I think our Wednesday show is mostly going to be a food review show. So,

Speaker 3 tune-in Wednesday where we look at, we get all the food from all of the hotspots around town. We bring it in, we have a taste test, we tell you what democracy tastes like.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, this show me what democracy tastes like.

Speaker 2 This is what democracy tastes like.

Speaker 2 That's it. I don't know if you know about this either.

Speaker 2 One of the other big pieces of news, not as fun next week, is that the Supreme Court is hearing an argument about the tariffs and whether or not the tariffs are legal.

Speaker 2 And apparently, when asked about it, the President Trump said he might show up to the Supreme Court and sit there to watch the arguments happen, which is a real

Speaker 2 intense boss move.

Speaker 3 And that's a wild boss move. But it's also, if that man can sit quietly in an audience and listen to people articulate

Speaker 3 legal precedence for an hour and a half,

Speaker 3 I will be more than impressed if Donald Trump does that.

Speaker 2 I mean, they will have to welcome him in by singing an a cappella version of YMCA so he feels welcome.

Speaker 3 Did he hear there was like free beef sliders there?

Speaker 3 Did he get the catering menu? Is that what drew him in initially?

Speaker 2 They also could offer him a crown, ironically. It's a metaphorical one, but

Speaker 2 a crown is a crown.

Speaker 3 That's essentially, I believe, what they'll be discussing.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I was talking to our researcher, Adam Chodikov, about this, and he mentioned the immediate connections to The Godfather Part 2, which is where I think the boss of the mob family comes in and sits in the courtroom during a trial as a sort of an intimidation tactic.

Speaker 2 And also happens in The Wire, where if you remember the very first episode,

Speaker 2 there's a trial that's happening, and Stringer Bell played by Idris Elbow, walks in and sits in the back, and it's sort of an intimidation tactic to be sitting in the courtroom as the arguments are happening to let everybody know who's really in charge.

Speaker 3 Did you remember the first episode? You remember the first episode of The Wire? A wonderful show. No disrespect, but the memory.
When was the last time you watched the first episode of The Wire?

Speaker 2 Well, we re-watched it in, I think, 2021 with some friends of ours.

Speaker 2 We had done, it started, this is a little in the weeds of my life, so

Speaker 2 I don't know if any daily show podcasters care about this, but we did a full watch of the Sopranos rewatch Sunday night, ate Italian dinner. Italiano.

Speaker 3 Italiano. I'm watching the lowdown.
I'm watching the lowdown right now because Ethan Hawk's on this week. So that's one of the fun things of hosting is

Speaker 3 you get to binge the work of the people we have. We have Ethan Hawk, I believe, is on Thursday.
So I watched his most recent film, which I really enjoyed, and the lowdown, which is freaking great.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 It's got nothing but amazing actors in it.

Speaker 3 Fun, pulpy story.

Speaker 2 Great Peter Dinklage episode in that one. Great House Sparks episodes.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Killer Mike of Run the Jewels is in the lowdown.

Speaker 3 Killer Mike is great.

Speaker 3 There's a couple acting and legends in it. Tracy Letz,

Speaker 3 an amazing playwright, wrote August of Sage County. Maybe my favorite theatrical experience I've ever seen.

Speaker 3 Only rivaled by, actually, only rivaled by the other theatrical experience I loved called Gats by Elevator Repair Service.

Speaker 3 And the actor in Gats, which they perform and read the entire book, The Great Gats, Be on Stage. It's a six-hour theatrical experience.

Speaker 3 It's one of the most phenomenal theatrical experiences I've ever been a part of. And the person who reads it is Scott Shepard, who is also in the lowdown.
Oh, wow.

Speaker 3 It's amazing.

Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 3 first of all, our podcast audience is like, what is this podcast?

Speaker 2 We're talking about, yeah.

Speaker 3 They talk to, it's like, if you ever want to paint us as elitist New Yorkers stuck in our liberal bubble, play this podcast where we talk extensively about the birigni in Queens

Speaker 3 and how Elevator Repair Services' six-hour rendition of the Great Gatsby called Gats is one of the great theatrical triumphs of modern times.

Speaker 3 And you'll be like, Yeah, these assholes, do they really get what they're talking about in the rest of America? And I would if the planes would land me there.

Speaker 2 That's what I'm telling you. These are the issues only relevant in a local New York City election, and this is the week that it is a New York City election.

Speaker 2 So we can live in this just for this four days, and then we have to step back and not talk about these things anymore. But But look, these are the things that sway voters in New York City.

Speaker 2 Which district has the best production of a classic novel read by a downtown theater company?

Speaker 2 These are the things we need to know. This is it.

Speaker 3 Tune in.

Speaker 2 But yeah, no, we're national culture, too. This is how you get an Independence Day.
This is how you get, you know, the big, the big Tenpole franchises.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you have to let it bubble.

Speaker 3 Let the outside world see what is resonating with them. And then perhaps it gets replicated on a larger scale.

Speaker 2 America is a beautiful tapestry knit to get local communities and cultures knit together to be one giant thing. That's it.

Speaker 2 We just got a note on the chat. Olympus has fallen 2013.
That's another one.

Speaker 3 No update on the elevator repair service productions of cats. You're not going to be able to do that.
Definitely not.

Speaker 2 Okay, fair enough. Oh, that's it.

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Speaker 2 Time for a segment we're calling the Daily Show and Tell.

Speaker 2 So Jordan, what is something that isn't a depressing headline that you've watched, read, or listened to, or argued about, or just that's generally been on your mind lately that you would like to share with our dear listeners?

Speaker 3 I will say, we've talked a little bit about our hip-hop love, and

Speaker 3 on the road this week, I got a surprise drop of one of my favorite musicians, Aesop Rock, dropped a new album called, What is it called? Oh, yeah, I heard It's a Mess There 2. Okay, I haven't done it.

Speaker 3 Great title.

Speaker 3 I love Aesop Rock.

Speaker 3 He is a wordsmith. He's sort of like, if

Speaker 3 like Jack Kerouac was a graffiti artist, you know, he's like, he's like a beat poet, meets hip-hop culture. He has so much fun with words.

Speaker 3 And one of my all-time favorite artists dropped, surprise dropped an album in the middle of the week as I'm on the road. And it just,

Speaker 3 it lit up my day. So

Speaker 3 I always, in those dark, weird times, try to find some musician who brightens it up. And I would definitely say ASAP Rock does that for me.

Speaker 2 That's great. Were there any standout tracks that you recommend?

Speaker 3 Yes, he's got one called, I think, Sack Lunch or Something Lunch, which is

Speaker 3 just about as fun a song as you could have. And actually, he released it six months ago as a video where he sits in what looks like his home studio, like hoodie up over his head, just rapping it.

Speaker 3 half on camera, half not on camera. And I sent it to a friend of mine.
I was like, I love this. It's so nonchalant, cool,

Speaker 3 and also middle-aged

Speaker 3 in a way that I think resonates so well with me, where it's like clearly a man who has been working on something for days who doesn't want to get out and overproduce it and just wants to sit in his warm sweatshirt and rap for about three straight minutes.

Speaker 3 And to me, it was masterful and lovely. So as a middle-aged man, I can truly appreciate it.
Thank you, Aesop Rock.

Speaker 2 Very good.

Speaker 2 What about you? So for me,

Speaker 2 as a parent, I read a lot of kids' books. And there's an amazing one that was recommended to to me by a friend of mine in the neighborhood that's called Moonshot, which is about

Speaker 2 the moon landing, the Apollo 11 mission. And relevant now because I saw there was a news story this week that Kim Kardashian believes the moon landing was faked.

Speaker 2 She was talking about it, I believe, with the actress Sarah Paulson. And

Speaker 2 reading this book, I was blown away by the technical achievements of a real moon landing. and how the stages of the rockets work.

Speaker 2 And I, you know, I had always seen the footage of Apollo 11 taking off and knowing about the three of them and the stages of the rockets and then the lander.

Speaker 2 But just I had never seen an illustration of how all of it fits together and the stages and times at which each parts of the rocket

Speaker 2 fall apart. And then how the command module will come out and then dock with the lander and then that will

Speaker 2 go out to the moon and then the lander has to pop back off the moon and go back to the command module and then how it all comes back. Just the

Speaker 2 look,

Speaker 2 if they faked it, which I don't think they did, that is a real commitment to, they had to engineer how it would have worked exactly.

Speaker 2 And it really is a marvel to see the, you know, the feat of engineering that it was to make all the pieces work and to figure out all the stages of it and to get two people to land on the moon and one guy to kind of just circle the moon and not land on the moon.

Speaker 2 Which is, you know, arguably the more important part of the whole thing is, you know, be the designated driver to the moon

Speaker 2 is real tough. So I recommend that book, Moonshot.
And it reminds me, there was a book that we got for

Speaker 2 some friends of ours, the first friends of ours who had kids, you know, a decade ago.

Speaker 2 We got them a book called Laika, which was about the Russian program where they shot the dog, they found a street dog and like tested whether or not

Speaker 2 what the space flight does to you know a creature inside. And real weird book to get for a kid.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 3 just so you know, we're all expendable. Yeah.
Enjoy. Good luck with your life.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And there's a kid's book version, and then there's a more grown-up graphic novel version.

Speaker 2 But it is, it's basically if you're giving a kid like, if old Yeller was also the movie Gravity, where you're just like,

Speaker 2 sometimes, look, sometimes, kid, humans will just shoot a dog into space with with no plan to bring it back. Welcome to being a person.

Speaker 2 So Moonshot is a much better entry into the space program because, yeah, it shows a feat of engineering and you

Speaker 2 bring everybody back in one piece, and that's great.

Speaker 3 There's a happy ending. Yeah, start with the happy end and let them understand

Speaker 3 the realities of space travel.

Speaker 3 Maybe that's a middle school thing.

Speaker 2 Yes. To all you readers and all of you parents out there, start with Moonshot, work your way up to like a...

Speaker 3 Get the order right, guys.

Speaker 2 Yes. Your kids will thank you.
Your kids' therapists will thank you. And we'll go from there.

Speaker 2 All right. So I think that's all.
That's all we have time for today.

Speaker 2 We'll save something for the show for next week, yes?

Speaker 3 I think so. I think there's a few theater experiences I had in my early 20s that I think will make a good first act on.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that really is all the time we have. Yeah, no, I should probably.
Yeah, no.

Speaker 2 My name is Devin DeLaCuanti. Thank you, Jordan Clepper, for precapping with me.
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