The A-Lister and The Influencer: Tuesday, April 29th, 2025

I sound amazing.

Welcome back to the toast and happy Tuesday.

Wow.

That's like early in the week. Things we did got to Tuesday.

No, I woke up today.

I'm like, oh, Thursday.

We've earned it.

Jueves, baby.

No, Martis.

Just a little old Martis for you, but it's an exciting Martis.

Oh, my God.

So much to talk about. Like, first of all, Jackie and I soft launched our new merch collection.
It's a small little drop we're doing. It's tomorrow at 10 a.m.
Eastern time at shop toast, merch.com in the spirit of mother's day. We always want to be shouting out our mamas.
I know we have so many, I can not be doing like a Heil Hitler. I was shouting out, by the way, I was shouting out, I was shouting out the mamas, but I did like encroach into Heil Hitler territory.
And for that, I apologize. Cause that's not what I was shouting out the mamas, but I did encroach into Heil Hitler territory.
And for that, I apologize because that's not what I was doing. What I was trying to do was salute our mothers.
Okay, so sorry. We have three merch pieces dropping tomorrow, Wednesday, 10 a.m.
Eastern time. Two of them are for the Bebe's.
So we have a little boy onesie. This is like a green and a blue.
It says Toasty Bebe. And there's a little bear hosting his own podcast.
You know how much that bear means so much to me. He's talking about very interesting things on his podcast.
You know what he's saying, Claudia? He's saying, you would love it. That is what he's saying.
Of course, we then had to make for the swirlies in pink, same little number. This is a size six month, but it goes from newborn to 24 months.
So we've got all the swirlies. So put your two-year-old in that.
And then, yeah. And then, obviously, we didn't want to leave the mothers out themselves, so we're bringing back an old classic, the Toasty Mama T-shirt.
This is an extra large. I haven't put it on my body yet.
I feel very superstitious about it. Yes.
But this extra large looks like if you're curious and I'm showing all the items on YouTube if you're listening as a podcast shoptoastmerch.com 10 a.m. Eastern Time cute little collection dropping just a small small batch you know so make sure you set your alarms small batch enough cheese and crackers for eight people for eight people and a token of our appreciation for the Toasty Mamas couldn't have said it better myself seriously so that's very exciting we've been enjoying ours and i do love my t-shirt and stay tuned on our instagram for more premium content of said items even though like yesterday we posted and then everyone thought i don't know you it was a.
The twins. Of twins.
I wish. Did they find a second girl baby for you in your belly? You know, I have heard on TikTok that happening at like your 35-week appointments, like the whole time there's been another baby in there hiding.
I did actually go to the doctor yesterday. I can confirm.
Solo traveler. For now.
For now. He does give the vibe of the type of baby who ate his twin, you know? Yeah.
But I guess you never could discount it, but that's not what we were saying yesterday on our Instagram. We're just trying to respect and appreciate the mothers.
Is that so hard for people to understand? We're just trying to have a girl onesie and a boy onesie. Yeah.
And show them off in like a pargy-licious way. So that's exciting.
I actually wrote down a couple of things that were exciting that I needed to talk about. You know what I didn't talk about that was exciting to me, and I can't believe I didn't talk about it because it's my whole personality, was that I got my new car this weekend.
Oh, you didn't talk about it. That is weird.
It was such a big part of my weekend. I spent so much of my weekend talking about it that I guess I had felt like I had moved on.

But then I got in my car yesterday after the show. I'm like, oh, my God, I didn't even tell anyone about brand new Tessie.
That's how I felt when I got on my phone and I realized I didn't tell anyone that Alex Earl commented on Zandra's post. And it was like, oh, it was really crazy.
I meant to make it a story for you. That's OK.
I just meant to bring it up as like kind of the one remaining champion of these two women individually and and this is the first and maybe only sign of life from these two alex commented on zandra's photo from stagecoach of zandra looking like fire flames and alex i think just wrote like hot or something like oh my god no no there's been a rapprochement yeah i don't know like this doesn't this didn't happen in a vacuum no, see, there was never anything wrong. No, there was.
They spoke. They buried the hatchet.
And I'm such a fan of these two reconciling that for me, it meant a lot. So that's kind of what I did this weekend.
I can't believe I forgot that in the weekend catch up yesterday. Yeah, no, like it's just so crazy how quickly you can move on from things that are so important to you.
And I just want to say like my new Model Y, which is what I went with new version of my old car like it's just everything and more and like everywhere I go people are like it's like I was at the playground and 12 year old was like is that the new model y I'm not the 12 year old why yes it is oh my god you're knows and they're like have a Nintendo switch like no no it's like so sick I was I valeted the day I got my car and they were like is that the new model y everyone's talking about that feels good I was like yes why yes it is I just picked it up from the dealership I had such a pleasant experience so I'm feeling really good about that and like I feel with my last car like I just expected to like dent it and like destroy it because it was my first car and you did dent it and I did dent it and like I don't know I just didn't take as much pride in it but like now I feel like this is my new whip like up get your feet off the seats like yeah that one like had training wheels like you were really learning to drive but now you can like treat your car with respect I'm treating it with a lot of respect I am for none of you for now the craziest thing happened to me last night it better be the craziest thing. It is.

I'm out to dinner.

Where?

I leave the restaurant.

Raphael's?

No, but I'm glad you brought that up because it's relevant, okay?

I'm out to dinner.

I walk outside.

It was very hot in the restaurant.

So like me and my swirlies, we were chit-chatting a little bit outside before we went our separate ways, you know, sort of ending the night. And I just look to my right.
Who do I say? Kenan Thompson. Crazier.
My husband. And I was like, we both exited separate restaurants.
I knew he was going to dinner with his parents. He knew I was going to dinner with my friends.
We didn't coordinate where we were going. So we ended up eating on the exact same block at the exact same time and leaving at the exact same time.
We didn't even coordinate going together. We literally left the apartment together.
I walked. He took a cab.
We literally went separate ways. You walked and he took a cab even though you were going you're going to the same destination I did walk yes I left really early because I wanted to walk and I took like literally 25 minutes to walk 15 blocks and he took a cab that distance or he went to his parents first or something maybe maybe I don't know but like we just that would be a really bad look the pregnant woman.
The pregnant woman could walk. It was a little chilly too.
But we left the apartment at the same time. I didn't see him arriving at the restaurant.
But what are the odds that we would be leaving at the same time too? Do you know how disorienting it is to like look to your right and see your husband in the wild and walking out with a woman? Now it was his sister, Maddie. My mom's a sister, so it's fine.
It's very fine. I don't know.
I don't know. No, I'm kidding.
It was so disorienting. And I'm like, Ben? It was kind of like a movie.
Like, everybody in the streets was also like, oh, this is a moment. You know, we all sort of froze in time.
Where did you eat? I ate at Bella Blue, which is on the same block as Raphael's, which is where Ben ate. I saw his story that he ate at Raphael's and which is like a pop a new Israeli spot.
And I saw all the food and I was like, I wonder if Claudia ate this. And then he's like, no dinner.
So I'm like, Claudia was next door housing pizza and pasta. Oh, my God.
And like I ordered really like well, you know, like I ordered well. Different than your usual? A little bit, but I, but I was like splitting a bunch of like fat things with my pregnant friend.
And when we were ordering them, like, you know, like you're very conscious, like of your order being big, you know, like I'll have a whole pizza and a whole pasta. And I realized like I do this thing when I'm like being particularly pregnant.
I'm so self-conscious of people not knowing that I'm pregnant that I'll hold my stomach when I'm being fat like or if I'm walking really slow in the street like people give me looks I'll immediately put my hand on my stomach it's kind of like a defense mechanism so when the guy was like do you want the pizza and the pasta together I put my hand on my stomach I'm like yes yes I would yes we do yes we do yeah because we are yeah two correct so he'll have the pizza. I'll have the pasta.
I'll have the pasta. We might.
Maybe we'll split. We might go like bite for bite.
Right. But he's really into the pizza.
So I ate really well. And then I saw my husband.
It was so crazy. Did you go home together? We did.
Okay, good. And do you feel like that story lived up to the hype of me saying the craziest thing ever happened to me last night? Yeah, that's pretty crazy.
It was. But I think it also just goes to show like how similar you guys are.
You know that even the cadence of your meals is tempoed at the same time. So true.
We're so simpatico. You venture to the same neighborhoods.
And so I think there's more to it than just random coincidence. I think you guys.
It's more cosmic than that? It's more, yeah, you guys are more interconnected than you think. You're on the same like biological clock of meal time and meal end.
Well, that's so true. Yeah.
You guys are also clearly the dominant leaders at each table who can determine what time the meal shall end. Because some people like to sit there.
To be clear, that my role when the dinner is over i do not dilly dally these days yes because i'm just uncomfortable in chairs but always like when the meal is over like let the meal end why do we have to add 20 minutes to the end of the meal that make me hate the whole experience you know yeah i'm a big fan of like calling it when it's over yeah well when you're with like your day one homies you can do that yeah it's different also if you're cocktailing it up okay like we could sip on our cocktails but like no it's a weeknight a lot of my friends have children like we had dinner no let's go home like and people that you love you could just be real like nobody wants to sit around for this but when you're with kind of like strangers or acquaintances like everybody has to be polite and nobody wants to be the first to be like, let's call it. Correct.
Or like even ask for the check. Yeah.
So what I like to do is go to the bathroom when it's time to get the check. And I flagged on the waiter and be like, can you bring the check over? So it looks like the waiter just presumed we were done.
Yeah. And he's kicking us out.
Oops. Yeah.
I'm like, oh, this place is so tacky. Let's leave.
Yeah. Let's just pay and get out of here.
We have a busy show today. We have Dear Toasters.
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Our first story. Beyonce kicks off the Cowboy Carter tour with her daughters, Blue Ivy and Rumi.
And TMZ was reporting low ticket sales, actually, which is surprising. Yeah, I feel like I've been seeing a lot of stuff about Beyonce low ticket sales.
And I don't I feel like every time like mostly a woman embarks on like a stadium tour, they said it about reputation. They're always like low ticket sales.
And then it ends up being fine. Like I saw videos.
sometimes it actually doesn't end up being fine like katie perry jennifer katey perry kim petrus i don't know if you saw that kim petrus thing she like definitely overbooked like she overestimated the venue sizes for her last tour and people were like on tiktok showing like day of stub hub and then like showing empty seats in the arena like sometimes that does happen But like for the most part with these like super famous artists

like Taylor, Beyonce,

like people are going to the concert.

Okay.

Yeah.

Well, I think the cultural impact

might be a little different.

You know,

when you compare like

Beyonce's Renaissance tour

and all the hype for that.

I didn't know Cowboy Carter

was starting last night.

Like it's kind of quiet.

I didn't know Cowboy Carter

was starting.

I'm realizing now that

she didn't do a Cowboy Carter tour yet.

I thought like maybe

there was like a break.

She was like picking the tour back up.

I know this is like a whole new show.

Right.

No, she did Renaissance.

I'm sorry. starting i'm realizing now that she didn't do a cowboy carter tour yet i thought like maybe there was like a break she was like picking the tour back up and no this is like a whole new show right no she did renaissance for the last album then released cowboy carter and now it's that long ago renaissance no she's moving quickly she's maybe she's bills to pay tmz has like the shadiest article about her and i don't know if they're always like shady towards her but read it they said that she's struggling to sell tickets fans are saddling up with jokes um there's more than for last night's kickoff show the opening show in la that there are more than 3,800 tickets up for grabs resale prices have dropped to 20 dollars by the way that's not a lot 3,800 in a 70,000 person stadium for the opening night and by the of the year.
Are they open on Ticketmaster? Are they being resold?

Uh... person stadium for the opening night and by the way are the album of the year are they open on ticket master are they being resold uh unclear they did say resale prices dropped to 20 dollars that happens the night of that's very low yes that is low yeah if you're looking for okay i want to see i'm looking up her tour 428 that was last night.
5-1 tomorrow. Or three days.

Her next show at SoFi.

Let's go on Ticketmaster.

Let's see what's going on.

Oh my.

It's something there.

There are tickets.

On Ticketmaster?

On Ticketmaster.

That's crazy.

There are resale.

Obviously, you know, that's like the pink button.

Of course, Taylor Swift has resale.

Everyone has resale.

But then the blue button.

So there's-

But this is what I'll say.

There are tickets.

Would you say there are-

There are resale.

You know what?

There aren't a shit ton.

LA?

Yeah, no. Okay, there are tickets.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Would you say there are tickets, tickets, tickets? I kind of would.
Yikes. I find that shocking.
Even though, like, maybe it's because her album was, like, such a departure from her usual stuff. And she wasn't, like, fully embraced by country.
And then, like, her OG fans maybe aren't into country. So she's in this, like, middle ground.
But that didn't stop it from becoming album of the year. Yeah.
But album of the year doesn't really have anything to do with. Well that we know.
With like with sales or reception or fandom. So tours are really indicative of that.
Like how do people want to show up and spend their money? If you're a huge Beyonce fan and Cowboy Carter wasn't your favorite album. You you would still go you would still go because she's gonna play the other songs too right no a thousand

she like knows that her fans didn't love cow like of course she's gonna cater it towards everyone

it was interesting to see how she uh is incorporating other swirlies besides blue

ivy i have wondered long about the twins right yeah what is the other twins name rumi and sir

yes um so it's kind of rumi's uh big coming out party. What is her debutante affair? Yeah.
And Blue Ivy was dancing like more than ever. She had like solo dance moves because on the last tour she came out like with the dancers.
Once. She participated in the show.
But now she's like getting her own dance break. She's a very like a skilled dancer.
She is. And it's so fun to watch.
And like it's such a great it Beyonce's platforms to give her daughter this biggest stage. Thousand percent.
I love that type of nepotism, honestly. I love.
Love. And I'm sure the fans die for it.
I'm sure it's just so beautiful. And we never see Rumi.
We never see Rumi. I didn't even know what she looked like.
She looked just like Beyonce. She went to the Super Bowl with Jay-Z.
That was the like first time we saw her recently.

Yeah.

Maybe.

So like they're slowly rolling her out.

Yeah.

Rolling out Rumi.

I didn't see Rumi dance and I saw her hugging her mom, but she's also so young.

She was just there like being swirly and waving.

I think she's too young to take on like choreographic responsibilities.

Yeah.

To be a part of like the team.

She was just sort of nestled in her mother's bosom while her mother sang a beautiful song.

It was really beautiful.

And Blue Ivy was also nestling them. Dancing behind.
Yeah. Yeah.
it was really shaking that thang having fun having fun no the sales is definitely interesting yeah and the fact that we didn't even know cowboy carter tour was kicking off or happening oh we did see did see. Oh, remember in January,

she had her big announcement

that she was going to announce.

Yeah.

I knew there was a tour

and I've been seeing people on like Twitter

complaining like people who waited in line

on Ticketmaster paid full price,

like dynamic pricing

and then seeing like seats in their section

going for like $100.

Like, but they paid like 600.

Yeah.

So I've seen like a lot of people love to complain

about like Ticketmaster things. So I knew Beyonce's tour was happening because of that.
Because people were complaining. Yeah.
People literally live to complain. Like an artist can do anything they want to make it like a peaceful process.
And there's just going to be complaining. So that's what I've seen.
They complain when there's no tickets on Ticketmaster. Now they're complaining that there are too many tickets on Ticketmaster.
I'll be curious to see if like what happened to like Katy Perry, Kim Petras, like will like that type of content will find me if there'll be like videos of empty rows or. I don't think Beyonce's fans will do that to her.
Me neither. And also I think that like when you the first night of a tour and like videos start to come out the blue ivy the roomie and then just like beautiful it's a marketing yeah yeah so i do think it's sort of an issue that might resolve itself but it is interesting to see perhaps the impact or like influence of this particular era just not hitting yeah yeah well I don't know.
I'm seeing a lot of stuff from katie perry's tour and i know it's like everyone's freaking it's making me want to go so bad it's the most effective form of marketing i must see this circus in real life the robot and stuff or i am so obsessed with katie perry in not a positive or a negative way but like in a genuinely like like I'm so interested in her. She's such a freak.
Like, well, I need to see this show in the realist way. The way I feel is I feel like as, you know, a society in a country like we we pride ourselves on like not bullying.
Right. Like we're not bullies and bullying is bad.
And bully is like a four letter word cancel the bullies and like we are actively watching the entire country bully katie perry and whether or not like i'm into her at the moment like that just feels wrong no i know and it feels like it goes against everything that like we've been taught and that people are always being don't be a bully and you know it happens a lot like, the butt of a joke on social media. And there are multiple ways of, like, handling it.
Sometimes they handle it really well. They roll with it.
And, like, even if it's not genuine, they, like, laugh with everyone. Right? Because it's, like, kind of the only way to survive.
Katy Perry is, like, not doing anything. She's sort of, like, letting everyone bully her and then, like, crying about it on stage.
And then also like then acting even weirder.

Right.

Like giving people more.

Like has she always been this weird or are we just noticing?

I think she's always been a little weird.

Yeah.

Quirky.

But like it was hidden behind like better songs.

And like major success.

Yeah.

But when the success started waning and then you just saw the weirdness

of you know bon appetit yeah the weirdness stuck around the success did not but even like when she was on american idol like her weird comments would get pulled but now she cannot say one thing without it being weird no i do feel bad for her i i feel bad for her it just feels like objectively wrong to like have everyone bullying this one person.

She's just a human being.

I agree.

Are you... feel bad for her it just feels like objectively wrong to like have everyone bullying this one person she's just a human being i agree are you ready for our next story which is some exciting romantic news that's kind of taken the world by storm exciting romantic news that it's kind of taking the world by storm what is it bj novak dating it has taken my world dating they're calling her tiktok star but she is also a real star she is a very real star because i know her delaney rose so she is the girl who makes videos where she pretends to be like an insufferable main character in a rom-com you guys definitely know her face if you don't know her name she's like so classic she's so classic she makes the funniest videos i feel like i'm always whenever i see them i always like repost them on my story because they make me laugh she's really like she's extremely talented yeah yes she is and she's dating BJ Novak he's 45 she's 29 works for me yeah no I know it's like technically a large age gap she's so wise beyond her years I'm not worried about her someone so smart could make the video yeah I also love, like obviously this is a romantic relationship with her,

but when you're in the public eye,

like who you date raises your star.

I'm like, I want her to be famous.

Like I want her to book real roles.

Like she deserves,

it's very rare that somebody like blows up

and they're so talented, right?

Like she writes these sketches.

She's a funny actress.

Like she's very talented.

So if BJ Novak is a stepping stone in her career,

I'm here for it too.

I don't like die for BJ Novak the way like people do.

People have like huge crushes on him, you know?

I don't like die for bj novak the way like people do people have like huge crushes on him you know i don't have they're like his crush on him i i don't die for him because i didn't watch mindy project or the office he wasn't in the mindy project he's just friends with mindy but okay right but maybe if i watched mindy project i'd be obsessed with mindy and then i would die for bj i'm obsessed with mindy i'm obsessed with Mindy. And like I give zero thought to BJ Novak.
Like he's just not my guy. But this makes me like him because like he obviously is a man of taste.
Taste. Yeah, he sees quality.
Yeah. And it's like I wouldn't expect BJ Novak to date an influencer.
And he wouldn't. But like to date the acting influencer, the comedy actress influencer.
She's also very beautiful. She's's like she could also be a model like she's like super thin tall beautiful luscious brown hair like porcelain skin she's literally gorgeous she could be a model yeah she does like fashion stuff too but yes anyways like you couldn't write this any better i could have spent all day thinking of like the perfect couple of A-lister and reals queen.
And I would have never thought of this. Completely agree.
And I don't know either of them personally or really like all that well in terms of their personality. I just do feel like it's a good match.
No, no, no. Personality wise.
They're going to live happily ever after. I absolutely love this.
You'd love to see like an internet swirly kind of getting plucked from the gutters into Hollywood A-list and for it to happen, it couldn't be happening to a better person. I've actually met her once at the Dear Media studio.
She was like on someone's podcast and I was just like, oh my God, you're so funny. She was so nice and so pretty in real life.
Like I'm really happy for her. Me too.
And I'm happy for BJ that he gets to be around her. And I'm happy for me because this is such a great story.
You know, like I love talking about it. It is.
And it doesn't happen often when influencers and traditional celebrities date, but it's always monumental when when it happens. And it's more often than not flipped gender roles.
It's usually like the famous celebrity woman dating the Internet reality star guy. Sarah High Sarah Highland, Gigi Hadid, Nick Vile and January Jones.
Allegedly. No, no, he confirmed it.
Did he? I got the feeling he did. He confirmed it in my dreams.
He's a me feeling. He emotionally confirmed it.
I just feel like when he came on the show, we asked him and he gave a did we look i think we are so funny we're brazen we're insane who would ever come on our show wouldn't literally biggest podcast in the fucking world no we're really sick i mean who wouldn't come on our show we're so funny you would have so much fun you would have so i mean you're not invited we don't really have guests but you would have a blast claudia's maternity leave if you're like a famous person listening to the show i'm spots are booking up for claudia's jackie is booking up quickly however if you are famous and interesting reach out if you famous, interesting, and interested, reach out. You could even DM me.
Send us a message. I'll see it.
There's a check mark. Don't DM the toast.
We don't check that as frequently as you would think. No, and every time I do, I'm like, we've got to check this more.
It's amazing. There's so many money-making opportunities in there.
Like celebrities. I've got it you know i never check and literally the last time i checked was um over the summer literally in august we're sitting by the pool and we had a message from amy schumer i'm like what are we doing that was last time i checked i have to go check again yeah no it makes sense why people would tag the toast but like yeah we don't yeah well we'll be better about that anyways we'll be better.
Reach out to me if this sounds like the job for you.

If you want, I'll get it to Jackie.

Says both of us.

Sure, sure.

Yeah.

Are you ready for our next story?

Mm hmm.

Martha Stewart is shocking Kelly Clarkson by saying she's never ordered food delivery.

So this story is funny for a number of reasons, because Martha admitted she doesn't order food

delivery despite being an Uber Eats spokeswoman. she was in the uber eats super bowl commercial uh with charlie xcx and she was in um another commercial for uber eats um in uber eats's defense you can also get groceries on with matthew mcconaughey like in uber eats's defense like i don't care no the thing is i'm really not looking for like cohesion and authenticity when it comes to like Martha Stewart's brand partnerships.
When it comes to Martha Stewart, I don't care. But like Charlie XCX was also in the Super Bowl commercial.
And if she said like I've never ordered delivery and then like they pull up this commercial, I'd say like liar. Inauthentic.
Yeah, Martha gets a pass for literally everything. I also just don't care, you know.
I'm more shocked, like, logistically. Of course, I never thought of Martha Stewart as the type of person who typically orders in.
But to have never once, like, what, you weren't, like, holed up once and you needed to order a pizza? Like, nothing? She says she will go out or she will not eat. That's really crazy because she's been to prison.
So she actually, she ate prison food. And she won't eat prison food and what was it what does that say about delivery a lot she's not wrong she her next spokesmanship spokespersonship should be for di giorno yeah it's not delivery it never is it's di giorno yeah i feel like this is a great idea she probably squeezed uber eats for all the money that they could maybe Maybe she even knew like the partnership is over.
Now she could do so many other things now. She could do like Home Chef.
One of those. Lean Cuisine.
One of those billion dollar. Blue Plate.
Home prepping. Like what are they called? Meal prepping.
Meal kits. Meal kit.
Yeah. Like Home Chef.
They should snatch her up next. Those companies have a lot of money.
Put me on Bo's show. Actually, I had a Bo's idea like three seconds ago too about DiGiorno.
Oh, that was good. Maybe we could be a team for Bo's show.
Oh, by the way, they would love us. We'd be unstoppable.
By the way, Claudia did admit on the Patreon twice, but not on the show, that she thinks after all, I would be good on Bozzy's show. Yeah.
No, I was wrong. I take it back.
I'm sorry. And I should have said it.
You saw what I was talking about about myself. I guess you just said it on the show.
No, I don't because your marketing is so subliminal. Very Josie and the Pussycats.
Because I'm so much more than just a marketer. Correct.
But Martha's a queenie.

Big time.

Especially for never having ordered in.

Like that's authenticity.

Aside from the over-eat commercial.

That's restraint.

I think a lot of us wish we've never ordered in.

It's never like the most amazing food.

It's convenient.

It's easy.

Sometimes it's cheap.

It's not like the most amazing culinary experience,

but sometimes it's like, I don't want to cook. I don't want to go out.
So it's like the easiest way. So the most amazing culinary experience but sometimes it's like i don't want to cook i don't want to go out so it's like the easiest way so the fact that she's never given in to like just what's easy that's shocking her restraint is something to be admired it is it is are you ready for our next story for four yeah um a little jojo siwa update because JoJo Siwa has come off of Big Brother and she and Chris Hughes are revealing their relationship status after Celebrity Big Brother UK.
So we hadn't talked about this on the main show, but there's like something major going on in Celebrity Big Brother UK. JoJo Siwa is one of the contestants and fans were very quick to notice this like very.
We talked about it on Patreon. Yes.
This very kind of touchy, lovey, dovey, close friendship relationship with a man named Chris Hughes. Now, Jojo is obviously a lesbian.
We know this for a couple of years and she just wasn't acting like one. Right.
And at first, I think it could have been explained thought i'm like it's fine like i didn't think much but the more it progressed and like the hugging and the hot tub and it was a lot the show came to an end it came out that jojo and jojo has a girlfriend this whole time jojo's girlfriend and her have broken up a Them friend. Okay.
Jojo and her partner have broken up.

Kath.

Them friend.

It's. And her have broken up.
A them friend. Okay.

JoJo and her partner have broken up.

Kath.

Them friend.

It's to they.

Yeah.

They're no longer together, which obviously sparked rumors even further.

And now we're like, we've had all these questions, right?

We're just watching this feed.

They don't know that the world has become fucking obsessed with them.

And now they've said it.

And then JoJo did say she was like, I'm not the L anymore.

I'm a Q.

Oh, right.

No.

Yeah, JoJo was having a conversation on the show with someone.

And she was like, you know what, this whole time. Not with, okay, so like Chris Hughes is the guy she's been flirting with.

He is straight.

He's from Love Island.

Then she was talking to someone else.

Don't know his name.

And she said, like she was just, you know, they're having a nice conversation being like, you know, this whole time I thought I'm lesbian, but I really feel like I'm not. I think I'm maybe more queer.
Yeah. And people were, you know, guessing what that meant.
Now, obviously, it could have been a direct correlation to Chris because she's having feelings for a man. So it was a lot of moving parts that really all led to one conclusion.
Yeah. Well, before, like this week, you thought that maybe it wasn't about Chris, that maybe she was just like attracted to more non-binary people, not just women.
I had seen people explaining, being like, well, maybe she's not in love with Chris. Maybe what she's saying is that a lot of the people she's attracted to aren't identifying as women.
So does that make a lesbian if your partner is they right so maybe that's why she said she was queer maybe it's not chris hughes related but it could have been chris hughes related and so i think she it is chris hughes related and she's attracted to more than just women because she is attracted to chris so they were asked about their relationship now that the show's over and they're doing press.

She said, obviously we're close.

Obviously we're tight.

He said, it's just a really strong bond between two people,

which is just a strong friendship.

And I think you can have like a soulmate friendship.

And to me, it's like that energy of where

it's not like the standard friendship

that you have with your friends.

But you know, it's still a friendship and it's just nice.

No, for sure.

But what about like all the hugging and kissing?

I think they're on their way to dating.

I imagine this is a very confusing time for them.

They just came off a show where they're literally like

Thank you. a friendship and it's just nice no for sure but what about like all the hugging and kissing i think they're on their way to dating i imagine this is a very confusing time for them they just came off a show where they're literally like lab rats and the whole world was watching them she's figuring out her sexuality she just broke up with her them friends so it's not like she's going to jump into a new relationship right now she's leaning on her friend chris hughes and then i think in a few months they will be dating or not like or just being in that house all cooped up together, like gives you ideas.
And then you get out in the real world and you're like, it's camp goggles. Correct.
So there's a chance that they date, but there's also a chance that they don't date. And I don't think it has anything to do with them not being attracted to one another.
I just think it could be like, you know, a result of the experiment. The big brother goggles.
I agree. Right.
The BBG, though he I'm looking at one still photo of them and he is looks to be in love with her and he also looks handsome and he's very handsome so like why not give it a spin you're in the house what else is there to do besides fall in love if you're like a young eligible person win the game conspire sure you want to get all Ser about it you know channel your energy towards victory yeah the stakes are less high when you're a celebrity big brother i think it's for charity you know well obviously the stakes are high for charity but like when it's regular big brother it's like life-changing money yeah so you really you can't be bogged down by relationships but people go on celebrity big brother because it's popular and it makes them famous and talked about like we're talking about right now. But I also imagine like once you're in it, you're in it to win it.
I mean, it also depends on your personality type, right? Like I know if I was cast, like I would be such a fucking crazy person. I would win.
No, same. Like I'm so competitive.
I would have no friends. I just wouldn't go on it because I just wouldn't want to see that version of myself.
Everyone in the house would hate me i can't help but once i'm like i'm not interested in playing but then you got me in oh bitch i'm gonna win there's literally nothing more to do i'm not gonna fall in love with chris hughes so everyone would hate me i'd be focusing on like how i can make a poop in private because that's like definitely a concern but other than that like i would have to win in it to win it and who did win correct doesn't even matter let's ask let's ask our third co-host chat chat chatty who won the season of celebrity big brother UK do you have the app on your phone or something I do do you not no I always like logging on desktop this is going to be a spoiler alert so So just if you're watching. Wait, is the show over? Oh, yeah, because someone won.
We're ready. Spoiler alert.
Here we go. Hold on.
Or not. The winner hasn't been announced.
Oh, maybe they just got kicked off. Oh, maybe the show's still going on, but those two are out.
Cool, cool, cool. Because the 2025 season concluded, though, on April 25th, three days ago.
However, as of now, the winner of this latest season has not been publicly announced. That's weird.
Excuse me? What kind of show is this? I don't know. What kind of business do you in? That's confusing.
And imagine how Kath feels. tuning in every day to see her girl see their girl we're talking about cath so like that's a win for cath no to like slowly watch your partner like fall in love drift away and you're like hey what about me yeah what about what about us no i'm sure cath is enjoying being talked about but like she literally had to watch in real time her partner move on from her them i can't explain how like i just i oddly don't feel bad for kath i just like looking at pictures of kath and jojo and i feel a little bad for kath i think jojo has like really toxic bad taste in women.
Just based on like the little.

So you think Kath's a bad girl.

Bad.

Just a person.

Based on the like limited knowledge I have of JoJo's relationships.

There's like always drama.

And like always.

And I just feel like she's not being like instructed.

She needs.

She's a dating coach.

You know.

Yeah.

Okay.

No.

I'm making generalizations.

But don't you think that like Chris Hughes would be a good choice for her i honestly don't know enough about chris i haven't seen anything really bad about like when people talk about it they're like oh my god he was the best love island yes right right no he's kind of beloved in the uk yeah and big brother celebrity big brother uk is in a very important show to me. Because of Gemma? Pretty much, I would let Gemma know that she is a fat cunt, and the shoes that she gave me were not the type of shoes I would wear.
They were old maiden type of shoes, and she said that those shoes were meant to be worn on a beautiful woman. So if that's the case, she should have put him back on the rack because she was not qualified to wear those shoes.
And I think Gemma is just a disgrace to women who are actually beautiful. Somebody lied to her several times and told her

that she was fly, hot, and

sexy, and beautiful. And she's nothing

like that. She's nothing of the sort.

Nothing of the sort. Nobody has

ever been read to filth so disastrously.

And on a whim. Like, you know,

New York Pollard. Of course.
It's just like a convention.

You just fart out. Yeah.
Yeah. She didn't

prepare any of these remarks. Like, it just

flowed out of her, like, vomit. And it's so...
Eloquent. Yeah.
Yeah. She didn't prepare any of these remarks.
Like it just flowed out of her like vomit. And it's so eloquent.
Brilliant. She should have put him back on the rack.
She should have. Imagine if she had we wouldn't have had that moment.
So true. I'm glad she didn't.
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Oh, okay. A little influencer news or a little mothering news.
Influencer. Okay.
Pregnant Lele Pond slips and falls twice during- Oh, my God. This gave me such a pit.
During her gender reveal for her first baby with her husband. How do you pronounce his name? Guyana? I actually, I don't know who he is.
He's a famous person. A rapper.
Good for her. Yeah.
Guys, she had like this big extravagant, you know, like kind of one of these, almost like a stereotypical influencer reveal. They were like, it was like this big stage and it was like Nickelodeon slime type theme.
Either half the stage is pink, half the stage was blue and whatever slime came out of which side. And the family and friends were standing under the pink and the blue and then they were going to drop.
Lele was on the pink. Her husband was on the blue.
Like like it was really split they were going to drop the paint of the color of the baby of the she's wearing heels she's wearing heels so they drop the pink paint on the family and obviously it gets on the floor just like you know nickelodeon and and she's so excited she like jumps up she makes her next move and she starts slipping on almost like a cartoon cartoon. Like when you like.
Which is extra. Like it's not just like, oh, she slipped.
Like it's just like scary because she's pregnant. Like this is a pregnancy.
No, it gave me such a pit. Yeah.
The gender. There are certain gender reveals that are like famous gender reveal videos, you know, where it's like the mother-in-law comes and like hugs the son.
Like there's a million. I feel like this is going to go down in history as like one of those gender reveals for sure and i'm sure that like that's what she wanted for her i mean it's a huge gender reveal and she is like this is what she does is like make viral content um and as long as she's okay which i do think she was okay she never hit she's fine she never hit the ground she's a little like wobbly and a little scary.
That happened to me last night. I slipped getting out of the shower.

It was so scary.

I know.

I like wanted to yell at Ben so badly, but it was my, like I was the one who made the floor wet.

It was all my fault.

I just feel like he should be cleaning up the floor after you when he's wet.

Or like leave my slippers out for me.

What about a bath mat?

We have two.

What about a third?

I don't know.

We need to carpet our bathrooms.

It's true.

I'm sure overall she's happy because it's like gotten so viral yeah and that's like literally how she pays her bills I thought what you were talking about influencer drama are you at all following like the keto girls ozempic thing no okay let me tell you you probably have seen this girl she her name is Janelle she's a nurse but she's a big TikToker as of a few years ago she invented like the um bell peppers with cream cheese and everything but the bagel seasoning like that trend okay janelle and so nurse do you know her face i'm gonna have to give them more information nurse tick tock hold on she's like a mom she's still a working nurse janelle ron roner yeah no i don't know her okay so but you are probably familiar with her cultural impact the uh the boats of cream cheese on bell peppers and i didn't know that was like you know she started that thing i just thought people eat like things but no no like that was her she like brings these like weird crazy snacks she's always been keto um and then her keto snacks like went super viral now she does like macro or whatever she's like a diet person and she's always been like very healthy looking i would say she probably had like like a normal like 10 to 15 pounds to lose and she was always like actively trying to lose that okay yeah and then like ago, like she started to lose the weight. That was epic.
And well, she had said that, you know, she actually wasn't doing keto anymore. She was doing macro and she had all these amazing recipes.
And she started selling her like course, right? Like here are my macro tips. My, I don't know what exactly was in the thing that you bought.
I know what those are. She sold like a program.
A program. And you know, she, for as long as we've known her, like this kind of stubborn weight that she hadn't lost, she did.
It wasn't significant loss, but it was like, I think a lot of women relate to that, especially women with kids. It's like those last 15 to 20 pounds that like just will not go the fuck away.
Yeah. So I think her program was actually quite successful.
Then she decided, and there has been like whispers about her being on Ozempic. Like it's not a big deal if you're on Ozempic.
Just because she like lost the weight and she couldn't. After all this time.
But she also switched to macros. Right, right.
It could be explained. She did then very strangely voluntarily share.
It's not like she was exposed. She shared that she, as a part of her like working with this new doctor, like a couple of months ago, the macros, macros and they also you know got her on a glp1 she just sort of like you know brushed up got her on a glp1 the interwebs like they freaked now now like the running line is like of course like we don't care if you're on osempic but like don't sell us your program and like while i agree like you you can't lie like sell a weight loss program while also being on oseempic and just not sharing that it's like no suddenly everyone's fine with ozempic like we're fine with it but you know your program yeah but what but the but if the program like actually is designed to help you lose weight really i think it's perhaps if it worked for her if it's i think it might be designed to help you lose weight in conjunction with a GLP-1.
No, but you said the program,

like imagine people got the program

and no one's losing weight.

Like that would be the headline.

But you said it's very successful.

It's a very misleading way to sell something

when it's like about,

like this is the program I did.

Well, it's like a major part of what you did

isn't included and not being shared.

It's so Brooke Windham.

I was getting a little section. So Jackie, yes, it's Brooke Windham.
She's Brooke Windham included and not being shared. It's so Brooke Windham.
I was getting a little section.

Yes, it's Brooke Windham.

She's Brooke Windham.

And by the way, I stand with Brooke Windham.

She's getting fucking eviscerated.

She's now offered refunds for her program.

Yeah, so much so that like when I was at dinner last night with my friend Margo,

who like doesn't know anything like about the internet,

like she was like, did you hear about Janelle?

And I was like, I did.

I don't have a horse in this race. know this is not my plate literally um i don't know i just feel like if you're buying a weight loss program from an influencer i mean because she is a nurse no and it's like it's a good program and it's a healthy way to live right like if you were enjoying the program and like i understand why it's deceptive but it's not like she was like you know giving you cal teen bars and you're gaining weight and you think you're supposed to be losing weight like you're following a program that's designed to be the science is the science she accelerated her weight loss with glp1 so could you slay slay so could you row.co like i understand why it's deceptive and people want like complete honesty and they want to see like your person's insides when they're an influencer but like she sold a program for healthy living that's what you bought you liked it until you found out something else about her it's like i could see it why people are making it a huge deal but if you take a step back like it like it's a program for healthy living, like macros go off.
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Hey, Swirlies.

I've been dating my now boyfriend for almost a year to the day.

He's wonderful.

Our relationship is 30, flirty, and thriving.

Background, I gave up social media for Lent. So when I got back on, I was suggested a local micro-influencer to follow.

I discovered that it's his ex-girlfriend of seven or eight years. We're in our late 20s, early 30s.
I then come to discover my boyfriend and his ex are sharing custody of their two dogs and I had no idea. Do I confront him about this? Do I let sleeping dogs lie? I'm shockingly not rattled by this at all, but should I be on a rampage? Thanks.
Love you. Bye.
Your boyfriend is two dogs part-time and you didn't know and your relationship is so flirty flirty and thriving I don't think they live together so I guess like they have visits like the dogs are there or you know you're not keeping track I don't know somehow she was able dog food you don't see a dog no I think she knows that he has dogs I don't think she knows that they spend significant time with his ex-girlfriend never one time you went to his house and the dogs weren't there and you sit and say where are the dogs right like has he been actively lying or keeping this from you that's an important distinction i don't love people who are comfortable just like not sharing things it makes you feel like well because you're not sharing this you're fucking your ex-girlfriend, right? Like the lie is what makes it, there's nothing wrong with sharing custody of your dogs, but lying about it to your current girlfriend, that's what makes it, that's the crime. Of course, it's always a cover up, never the crime.
Are Tom and Katie still sharing a dog? I actually think that they are too. That's insane.
Gordo, I agree. I don't know what the right thing is and I've never dealt with it.
I imagine it's incredibly difficult. But I think, and I feel like we just had this conversation about Caitlin Bristow, right? Because she had all that dog drama with both of her exes.
You have to clean break it. And it's very hard.
Like in a marriage. Like that's Tom and Katie.
And I think they got those dogs together. Tom and Katie, I actually probably, I understand,

is probably one of the more difficult situations.

Like if somebody came into the relationship with a dog.

But the idea that they're still getting together every few days

to exchange the dogs is absurd.

More absurd than like one of them.

And they have two dogs.

And so I actually think the dogs should stay together.

Though you could.

Split them.

You could split them.

Separate the siblings.

I wouldn't do a parent trap style. They'll meet at the dog park one day and say hallie october 11th sisters no hallie twins but you know what i do feel like in every relationship like there's the person that should keep the dog right like who do first of all like the dogs always gravitate towards like let's say something were to happen between Ben and I I unfortunately think at this stage like Romeo would go with Ben Rodeo would go with Ben yeah you're saying Bruno would go with you I'm saying Theo would go with you but Theo like literally became Ben Ben is like such an active parent it's like annoying I like I don't even stand a chance with these dogs like they like they love me obviously and they lay in my lap but the second Ben sits down they literally get up out of my lap and lay in Ben's yeah I think you just have to like rip the band-aid off and and you have to it's painful but like requires emotional maturity that like people should acquire so are you suggesting that this particular girl kind of demands that her boyfriend stop sharing custody oh no it's not for you to demand it's like the girlfriend who's looking right her way up you look crazy um but i'm just saying in general like this is a practice that's not really healthy it's it's very millennial core it's really really crazy.
It's silly. But for this girl,

I'm glad that you're not upset.

I would just be a little concerned. Any

partner who's comfortable hiding things from you,

it's not a great trait.

So I would bring it up just for the sake of

transparency. Being like,

are you keeping something kind of major?

Your dogs don't live with you half the time?

Your dogs are gay.

Yeah, them. I feel like the custody situation, it doesn't go on forever right it eventually fizzles out i don't know because i would have expected like kind of when you get a new relationship if at like that is so crazy how much of your life you spend shuttling back and forth to get the dogs like i know that's what you do with children human beings but like for the dogs some people's dogs are their children like it's their it's their life i get it i do and and honestly like we're talking a big game we're talking a big game but like let's say bruno was ripped from your house like you'd be devastated you would of course yeah i would face my devastation well or you would try to make it work especially for people who don't have kids like it's why not unless you're on like really really bad terms it tethers you to the past and you need to move or if you're on really bad terms like you can't even see this well i would say if someone did something so egregious then you get the dog they don't get the dog yeah.
They don't get the dog. Yeah that would make it really clear and easy.
Right it's situational. Katie and Tom no one cheated.
Right. They grew apart.
And I think you know Tom just went on Katie's podcast so like they're actually in a really good place like friendship wise so I think it's fine for them to see each other like every week. But it's hard like it's emotional too.
Do they have like a plan like a time when like they would stop doing this like What if one of them like gets married? I think maybe like, you know, dogs don't live forever. Yeah.
So maybe that's like sometimes you think like until the end of the dog's life. If they're older.
But what if they're young? And then what if you do have kids and then your kids have a dog part time? What if you have kids and your kids love the dog? Like you win. But then the person's left with nothing.
And you know what? then they have to say goodbye every few days and your kids love the dog like you win but then the person's left with nothing and you know what they'll have to live with that it's devastating it is it is but a kid kid wins you do claudia face your devastation no i'm saying it's no it's situational it's completely situational you can't make general decisions it's just prolonging an issue and like you should just jackie we are getting off track from this particular girl how do we help her fascinating conversation does she confront her man about this yes he should not be comfortable having secrets speak to him about the fact that he's doing this and you didn't know but don't try and get between the man and his dog yeah don't don't make issue with the fact that he shares custody the fact that he kept this huge part of his life from you. It's a big thing, custody.

Yeah.

And I don't know.

Keep an eye on him.

How do you bring it up?

I saw your ex-girlfriend on Instagram.

No.

Why?

Just being like, by the way, the way it happens,

I shouldn't do anything wrong.

This thing was served to me.

I saw your dogs on Instagram.

And do you say your dogs are gay or no?

That's a good question.

Nobody wants to hear it.

You have to say, your dogs are gay. That's what you say.
No, you have to talk to him about it. You can't get away with lying.
You have to talk to him about it. Use your judgment as to how.
Okay, we have a little interfaith drama. I'm listening.
One of my best friends is getting married this summer. The man she's marrying is a total pee job.
He's Jewish. She's non-denominational Christian.
The problem is that she's very against doing the horror at their wedding, even though he told her how important it is to him and his family. She claims it would be offensive to her religion and to her family.
She will not even allow her husband to do it on his own. I tried to tell her she's being absolutely ridiculous, and the conversation ended up in a fight.
Am I the crazy one? one is this actually offensive of course i don't want it to be in a fight with her but i also

can't seem to get over this help oh my god so for those who don't know break them up we'll set them

up with stitch this is for those who don't know she said that her friend yeah the horror is like

a dance that's traditionally done at jewish weddings it's like a jewish song it's just like

and then you put you know the bride and the groom up in a chair it's all very celebratory

It's like a Jewish song. It's just like old klezmer music.
You all know it. Hava, Nagila Hava.
And then you put the bride and the groom up in a chair. It's all very celebratory.
It's really not religious. It's more cultural.
They do it at really all Jewish weddings, no matter how religious you are. They actually do it at non-Jewish weddings too.
It's kind of become like a wedding thing, like throwing you in a chair. Oh, if you've seen Gossip Girl, when they go to the bar, they do it at bar mitzvahs too.
They put Blair and Chuck in the chairs at the bar mitzvah. And it's just, it's done at all weddings.
All Jewish weddings. Jewish weddings.
Big, small, orthodox reform. I feel like if you're entering into an interfaith marriage, you have to be, and one person's like not converting or anything.
We're going to live, we're going to coexist like a bumper sticker. You know, you have to be a one person's like not converting or anything we're gonna live we're gonna coexist like a bumper sticker you know you have to be a little flexible right this person's like entire you know life philosophy is a little bit different than yours so you have to be willing to mesh and I feel like the horror is such a non-offensive the horror you're literally gonna get yeah nothing throughout your life I it's a low low bar the horror i am in love with the horror it is my favorite part of every wedding it's so beautiful to me like jews have been doing the horror at weddings for thousands of years it means so much to me and i don't get like attached to like so many things customs in our like some are that is like my favorite one i need them to break up she's disgusting that you would.
And that he has to like beg to do the whore at his wedding when it's like. It's so wrong.
It's like the probably the most like secular thing at this point about it. Yes.
Also, some people also do chuppahs too because like they're just aesthetically pleasing. Pretty arch.
Right. You don't realize.
But getting married under like four poles that like create like a little arch is actually a Jewish thing. It's like, it's called a chuppah.
Yeah. But people do it now because it's like aesthetic.
Yeah. So I think she's disgusting.
If she's not going to budge on this, then she's not the type of partner who could be in a coexist bumper sticker relationship because this is like a no brainer. And I think that you should steal her husband.
But I also have to- I don't know if you're Jewish, but you sound like you really respect the faith. It's true.
And I also have to put the onus on the man here. Like if he goes ahead and marries this piece of garbage.
Well, then he's not the guy I thought he was. 1,000%.
It's such a small ask. You know, of all the.
There's so many Jewish customs at a wedding. Like some of them are really extreme.
Like so for him to just ask for the horror which is like seriously everybody knows the horror it's in every movie ever it's like literally not even jewish at this point it's like so cultural make it even more secular by adding like more secular music like you could take out the hebrew like you could do a blendy horror you could do a non-denominational like you could make it work and she's not making it work I don't like her no I hate your friend and I understand like it's not your business but I love that you're a dog with a bone like a dog with a bone for this and I agree don't let it go it's wrong it's so wrong that actually oh the horror oh the horror of this situation I feel sick I feel sick no keep keep going keep play this episode for her. And you should go to her soon-to-be husband and be like, isn't that, isn't she the worst? Yeah.
No, I mean, it really doesn't bode well at the beginning of an interfaith marriage. And I actually have sympathy.
I think an interfaith marriage is probably really hard when both people are deeply attached to their religion so much so that they won't convert or give up. So it requires a great deal of compromise and, you know, listening and learning.
And she just sounds like a bitch. And open-mindedness.
Me be open to your things, you be open to my things. I'm sure there are non-denominational Christian things about this wedding.
Has he said anything? No. You're telling me there's nothing religious from your side? Right? Well then, if there isn't, then why can't we do my thing? Right.
Give the man his horror.

Give the man his horror.

I'd say play this episode for her, but we've been so nasty to her.

I don't know if she'll-

I know.

I think I called her a bitch.

I called her disgusting.

I don't know if it'll be well received.

Yeah.

I don't think it's going to have the intended effect.

Oops.

Third and final, dear toasters.

Hey, Swirlies.

My boyfriend and I, both 25, have been dating for a year.

We randomly got on the topic of threesomes, and he admitted that he has had a threesome and a foursome the kicker was that both experiences were with one girl the rest included his very close guy friends so three bros one girl i was shocked to hear this as he is a pretty shy person and i wouldn't expect it am i crazy to think it's weird to have threesomes andsomes with your guy friends? I was kind of laughing when he told me and I definitely asked him if he swung the other way or has been on the other team a couple of times. It isn't a deal breaker for me by any means.
I'm just curious if this is common with guys. I have guy friends as well.
I'm 99% sure they would never have sexual experiences with each other. He also assured me that he wasn't hooking up with the guys, just sort of waiting his turn.
Anyways, I'm laughing writing this. What are your thoughts? I mean, there's only one thing to say, and Claudia's going to have to be the one to say it.
Your husband is gay. Oh, I was going to say something else.
Like, I do think that, like, there are definitely threesomes with multiple guys. Boyfriend.
Okay. And they're 25.
So I think that, like, guys can have threesomes with a girl and it not be gay like they really just stand around like watching and waiting and they don't like you know jerk each other off like i think there are non-gay male threesomes men and a girl three there are non-gay two men and a girl threesomes they're also gay two men man there curious. So I think it's possible, like, yeah, your man has no, like, gay afflictions or, but the thing is, is, like, it's up to you, like, right? Like, is that something you're comfortable with, your preference? Like, if he is, you know, doing, like, the more gay type of threesome.
Yeah. And so if they all stood around.
And she says that she wouldn't mind. Okay.
If they all stood around and waited to turn, there's like four of three guys, one girl. Yeah.
That's just like, I wouldn't want to. Sped time management.
No, it's like, I wouldn't want to be with someone who would participate in something like that. That's like.
It gives an ick the idea of like you waiting around watching your friend get fucked. Get a life.
There There's just I can't imagine unless it's Bonnie Blue like that there's a good way that that goes down. You know? Yeah.
It's it's it's kind of gross. Not to be like, you know, king shamer.
Not to yuck his yums. No, threesomes and foursomes can be very beautiful.
But you're right. If you're just like sort of waiting around for someone else.
Threesomes and foursomes can be very beautiful. No, like if they're done properly.
but like you're just waiting around like for your friend to be done so you can get your turn on the ferris wheel like seriously it gives loser energy like i agree and then someone confident and like someone confident would never participate in that and i would just need to know like at no point in the ordeal which probably took a while like you didn't did you touch a penis did you kiss your friend did a penis touch you i know because things you know during a threesome they kind of go flying well not if you're like waiting in the corner for your turn right like in a chair with your pants down like i just think the idea of it would give me the ick so much not not like that that having a threesome is icky but like you just like sort of stood there and waited around the logistics of thinking about how your man participated in this would be even if it's not a gay one it's kind of worse would be enough for me to no longer be into him but based on the tone of your submission like i wasn't getting the vibe that you were particularly bothered understanding than us i wasn't getting the vibe that you were particularly bothered by any of it i more understanding than us. I wasn't getting the vibe that you were particularly bothered by any of it.
I think she was more so just asking like, is it normal for your boyfriend to have like threesomes with guys? And I want to say, I do think that there is a world in which like there are guys who have had like threesomes, like the Bonnie Blue type where you just like wait around and that aren't gay. And it's not like normal, but it's common.
I wouldn't worry about it. So I would say like first it's like there's two categories.
Like people whose boyfriends have had threesomes and foursomes and people who haven't. So like let's just take away the people who haven't.
Let's operate with like, yeah, some people's boyfriends have had threesomes and foursomes. Now what percentage of that group have it with predominantly male? I'd say 20%.
Okay, I was going to say 40.

Okay, let's land at 30.

30%. You've got peers.

No, Dr. I.
Fox said yesterday

the 30th percentile is actually average these days.

He did say that.

We were talking about like percentiles

of like weight and height.

So a doctor is telling you that you are average.

There's nothing more I'd want to hear. Yeah, he said 30% is the average.
I said, wouldn't 50% be the average? He said, not these days. Don't think too hard about it.
Right. So congratulations.
Yeah. I guess it's like, that's like grading on a curve, right? Yeah, or just like sociologically, the elements, like people are getting smaller.
I don't know. I thought the percentiles are based on based on like the peers not about but maybe they're based on like throughout history evolution history i have like i seriously don't when they talk about percentiles at the doctor's office like my eyes glaze over i do not understand it percentiles the 50th percentile then that's i think grading on a curve and then you would get a 50 got it okay so you got a 50.
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