Stagecoach, Draft Day and Bill Belichick's Hole: Monday, April 28th, 2025

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It's the toast.

It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.

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We'll start your day off swirly.

It's the toast i sound amazing

welcome back to the toast and happy monday like that's me so negative but the last time we were all together we were like so excited celebrating vierna's and like it's lunas and it's lunas and i don't know how to sort of grapple with the realness that is lunis we were all so happy that day

it's hard to imagine how terrible things would soon become.

I actually don't feel that way, not to be like toxically positive.

No, by the way, we're on the same page today.

That it's like a bright, bright, chipper, happy day.

I feel like it's a big week.

We have a lot going on.

I actually have like a lot of things happening today that are buoying me and like just distracting me from the fact and the case of the Mondays.

Yeah, I'm going to be toxically positive too.

I saw a healer last night.

Like really, I don't even know what the best word to call this wonderful woman who came into my life, into my apartment, and gave me the rubdown of a lifetime.

Now,

it wasn't a massage.

She is a doula.

She is an herbalist.

She's a masseuse.

So it was like a breach session.

Okay.

It wasn't Reiki.

No, no, no.

It was like.

When does the Reiki come in?

I think if I've gotten to the point of Reiki, it's time to give up, honestly.

Okay.

Even though Lauren Bostick said Reiki flipped her baby.

Yes, and I told Dr.

Fox that Lauren Bostick said that Reiki flipped her baby.

And he said, that's amazing.

Her baby was probably going to flip anyway.

But like, why would you have to do it?

Not to doubt Lauren Bostick.

I'm not considering Reiki has 100% chance of flipping Lauren Boston's baby.

Why wouldn't you give it a shot?

And at least then you could like come here and like tell us what's rape.

Yeah.

At this point, I'm doing these like Eastern things simply so I have something to talk about on the toast because I don't get out of bed these days.

Like it's, it's really hard to like come up with fodder when you don't do anything.

And I imagine it's good for your relationship with Ben that you're taking an interest in his passions.

He was definitely jealous.

When she came in, like.

I had never met her before.

She had this amazing, like, nurturing energy.

Like, I immediately liked her.

And so the session included lots of, we burned mock Sebastian, we did stretches and lots of massages.

Like it was one of the best massages I'd ever gotten.

And then afterwards, she did some of like my physical therapy stretches with me.

It's a pretty long session.

And let me tell you, I'm feeling amazing.

I don't know.

I don't know if it worked.

Like it probably didn't, like whatever.

But feeling amazing is feeling amazing.

Like that seems like a good enough end goal as any.

I love Yiska.

That was her name.

She like seriously changed my life.

She doesn't come into the city much.

I was so lucky to get an appointment.

I don't think I'll be able to see her again.

Do you think Ben is going to bring in his own healer?

And like, you guys are going to have competing healers?

No, I think he's going to steal my healer.

Like, he was, I could tell he was really vibing with her.

Yeah.

So, like, she left me in the bedroom to like get undressed and she told me like how to lay.

And I heard her and Ben in the kitchen, like, chit-chatting.

I could tell he was.

He got her card.

He was moving in on my healer.

1,000%.

But I feel great.

So that's my toxically positive.

Don't expect this type of energy from me all week.

You know, it comes and it goes, but I have to acknowledge that today I'm feeling toxically positive.

Do you think you're going to bring any of your newfound Eastern practices into your life post-pregnancy?

It's a good question because I have found them to be enormously helpful.

Now, I don't have the issues that I have pregnant while not pregnant.

I definitely have issues.

I think I would definitely be open to acupuncture, although I find the actual sessions of acupuncture like mind-numbing.

I know the whole point is like to unplug and relax.

Like, and every session, I'm like, how long can I go?

I've never made it a whole session without my phone.

Sorry.

And I have AirPods.

And

when I'm doing really well, I get to like 40, 45 minutes.

And then I'm like, oh my God, we still have 20 minutes left.

I have to scroll TikTok.

Like, it's just insufferable.

So I find it annoying, but I like the results.

Okay.

I feel like you would like

acupuncture because you're like good with being alone with oneself.

It's true.

I would cherish the time to be alone with my thoughts.

And just like being at peace.

I find it extremely unpeaceful.

No, I do have desires to try acupuncture.

That is on my list.

I know you're coming to New York.

Maybe you should try my gal.

Yeah, maybe your healer, too.

She's really hard to get in touch with.

I don't think you could get in touch with me.

Ben could probably get me an appointment.

1,000%.

So I feel like God.

I feel like good.

How's your weekend?

My weekend was great.

Lots of fun was had.

I'm trying to like remember what I did, but we just, you know,

we went to the bookstore.

My favorite place.

Huge.

The bookstore is a great place to go as as a parent.

Do you feel right, but also as a like famous not only author, but podcaster regarding books?

When you walk into a Barnes and Noble, I imagine it's how I feel like when I walk into like a kosher restaurant, you're like, oh, these are my people.

Okay, but like

they're not my people and it's hard.

Like the literary world, like, actually, I don't feel like I'm the elk of the literary world.

Not at all.

Like, no one who works there is a toaster.

Or a redhead.

Or a redhead.

You know, my dream is to have like a redhead table of books where I can.

Oh, I thought you were going to say your dream is to have a redheads bookstore.

No, like I like to make money.

No, I know, but like the level, that's like Colleen Hoover's.

Like you get so rich, like you have a bookstore.

It's a passion project.

Like who cares if it loses money?

She has a really cute bookstore that's like, you know, idyllic with like the big chairs and coffee shops.

I would love to even have enough time to like go to the bookstore more.

Like let's start with that as a goal, let alone starting my own.

No, to have like a table at the bookstore.

Like sometimes they have like a Hello Sunshine table or an Oprah's book club table where like all the books that they've chosen are on the table.

And like all of the books that we read for the redheads there were so many out on the floor and i would love to have a red you guys know that's my dream already to like walk into a bookstore and there's like a redheads table jackie it sounds like you could diy it yourself like just head over to the local bookstore start collecting print a little piece of paper they have book tables everywhere so just cover the table side and put your redheads books or i could like work with like a maybe barnes and noble they would kick me out you know like they yeah they're a little big for their bridges especially since borders went out yeah but like maybe a smaller bookshop would love to work with me in that capacity I would you you would love that you would love it.

So it was always it's always nice to go to the bookstore.

I saw so many books that I wanted to read, but I have to be reading this like Lucy Score porno for the Redhead.

I heard it's terrible.

What?

I heard it's terrible.

I haven't seen it.

I heard it's terrible.

I don't want to say.

No, tell me.

Just tell me.

I saw it in the Redheads Facebook group.

Oh.

They do love to say that about everything.

No, sorry.

I saw it in our Patreon Facebook group.

People being like, any Redhead's reading this book?

It sucks.

That's so,

so funny and and painful because it's 500 pages so like lucy score you better don't do it and lucy score loves to write long smut books and that's just not the vibe no no

we're not reading smut because we're looking for like an anthology yeah but i feel like she likes like i feel like

you then get to say you read a 500 page book and like it gets up your page count for your goodreads end of the year like she is helping out Yeah, but if I'm reading a 500-page book like that I can brag about, it ain't gonna be smut.

It's gonna be Demon Copperhead, which I don't don't know if I've mentioned this year.

I did read.

What's the Demon Copperhead of this year, though?

That's a good question.

I had a like totally similar weekend in the sense that I like really did nothing and I would have nothing to share, except I started a show.

And I started a show that me and Ben are so obsessed with.

And we've been in a real rut.

Like we started Nip Tuck.

We didn't like it.

We started, I mean, I liked it.

Ben didn't.

We started Friday Night Lights.

Ben was like kind of not into it.

We couldn't get a show.

And then we started The Pit.

Have you heard about The Pit?

No, but did you guys think about starting Royal Pains?

Okay, so what's funny is that right after our conversation on Friday is when me and Ben decided to start watching The Pit, The Pit is a medical show.

Okay.

And so I was posting about it on TikTok.

I'm sure you didn't see.

And everybody was like, not you watching a medical show that's not Royal Pains.

I was posting about The Pit, but I didn't know it was a medical show.

And everyone's talking about it.

So part of me was like watching it because I wanted to be relevant and cool.

Like, yeah, I'm pregnant, but I'm still relevant.

Like, I still know what's going on.

And then I just really started to enjoy it.

So it's about, it's like, it covers like a 12-hour shift in an emergency room.

Um, and every, it's just 12 episodes, and every episode is an hour, you know, so you're like experiencing the whole shift with them.

And it's a teaching hospital, so like so it's just one shift, yes.

And so, obviously, that doesn't sound enticing, but like all the patients end up like being connected, you know?

Okay, it's real, it's really good.

And it's a teaching hospital, and it kind of got me thinking.

So, a teaching hospital, like I don't know if you know what that is, like where residents go.

Like, they have to become a, in order to become a doctor, like you have to be a student, right?

And it got me thinking, I've never, I don't like go to the hospital a lot, but like,

I know it's like a part of if you got a resident yeah and so i think i've shared the story once that like in high school i did um like have an experience with a resident i think you have i had like an issue like i don't really want to get into my medical history but like it was pretty in a personal area

it was in a personal area personal gets and i had to have like a little procedure and i had to go to like the special doctor at a special hospital and they were like we have our residents do you mind if they observe and like i actually really did bind but i was in like no position to bargain i really needed I was just like, yeah, sure, whatever.

And there was just a lot of like young strapping men watching this personal procedure.

So I'm not entirely comfortable with it, but in this particular show, like every, there's one doctor who supervises the entire shift and everyone else is a resident.

Now, there, I guess when you become a resident, I think in like your year two, you officially become a doctor.

So like they call you Dr.

Whitaker or whatever.

Actually, Whitaker's not a doctor.

He's a first year.

But I don't know.

And I'm surprised like more people, because they treat like a million people every episode more people aren't like you're not a doctor no it's like this weird social contract that we've signed that like the residents can get in there even though they're not as qualified as the doctors yeah and there is like a supervising doctor but he's not supervising everything no and he has a lot of trust in those residents Yes, I mean, that's kind of the core of the show, Dr.

Robbie.

Oh, and I did find out the thing that made me want to watch a show, it takes place in Pittsburgh.

That's why it's called The Pitt.

And the doctor, who's like the main character, the official doctor, Dr.

Robby, his name is actually Dr.

Rabinovich.

He's a Jew.

And he's actually named for a doctor who passed away in the Squirrel Hill shooting, Dr.

Jeremy Rabinovich.

So I liked that.

I saw like a meme.

I think Tink shared it.

And then I was like, you know what, I'll watch his show.

Sure.

And it's good.

Oh man, I'm loving it.

It's extremely graphic, like very medically

graphic.

But they do too much.

I like shows people's insides.

They showed a full birth.

Oh.

Yeah.

The thing is, is that the baby looked so fake that I wasn't even freaked out by it.

People were like, don't watch Season 7.

It was so fake.

I'm like, I could watch this with my eyes completely open.

I'm totally fine.

But the show is really

yucky.

It's like not my favorite part.

Oh, okay.

But you like it.

I like it, but I don't think you will like it because of the yuckiness.

Yeah, there's actually so many shows right now that everyone's talking about.

Like, of course, Severance,

you know, but I don't know if I'll get to that.

Then I I heard there's one with John Hamm on Apple TV about like

neighbors and friends, love thy neighbors, love thy neighbor, Olivia Munn.

John Hamm is in Love Thy Nader.

Yes, Ralph Nader.

Brooks,

Brooks Sisters.

Olivia.

Oh, that's what it's called.

Is she related to Ralph Nader?

Is she related to John Hamm?

John Hamm show Olivia Munn is in.

That's why she was doing promo, talking shit about the.

But the premise sounds really good.

It's like about rich people.

Your family.

Yeah, me and Ben watched the trailer in our request for a good show.

I wasn't taken by it.

There's also now a show about the Ukrainian orphan who might have been the Ukrainian grown woman dwarf.

Yes, it's called, it's on Hulu.

It's very enticing.

Good neighbor.

Good American family.

Good American family.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Honestly, I would watch that.

I don't know how I could sell it to Ben.

I just have to be like, listen, you have to go in blind.

Just it will be better if you don't know anything.

And I'm sure it is better because the twist is, yeah, but I saw on TikTok, like they, they,

I don't want to spoil it, but I saw like a little bit of a spoiler.

I mean, it's spoiled because we were reported on this story every step of the way.

Yeah.

No, no, no, but what they did in the show.

Just tell us.

Like they make it seem like, like, they tell it from two different perspectives.

So it's like, obviously, this little girl's a grown woman.

She's so scary and whatever.

And then they tell it from the girl's perspective, and it's like, she's the victim.

And that's how they end it.

So it's like, you don't know whose perspective to believe.

But that is how we are in real life.

Oh, please.

She's a grown woman.

I don't know.

And how is it, since when is it so hard to find out someone's age?

Get a tooth.

I have no idea.

Get a tooth.

And another show everyone's talking about, and by everyone I mean me, is the new and final season of the hit Netflix show you was released over the weekend.

And I do think people care, but the reason why I care, I told you this, right?

Okay, because I was like, didn't you tell us on Friday you don't watch you?

And we already

already contended with that.

No, and normally I wouldn't talk talk about you twice in the span of four days but like they're talking about me on you

okay thank you to the toaster who dm'd me um there's a

episode in the new season where there's like an instagram live um so they show the instagram live on the screen and you know an instagram live like you see the person you see how many viewers there are you see comments coming in and literally there's a comment from girl with no job It's a bunch of red flags, which is so you.

It's so me.

Like, is this play about us?

So who, who works for you?

Like, show yourself.

You're a toaster.

Like, show yourself.

I actually, I wouldn't even be surprised if it's not a toaster per se.

Like, girl with no job is just such a big part of just like social media, you know?

And like,

you're one of like

the OGs.

The greats.

What about

the OGs?

You were going to say the greats.

Go back.

I was, but that's, that doesn't make my point.

Of course, you're great.

Like, you're so fantastic.

We love you.

I know what you mean.

I know what you mean.

Like, OG staple accounts.

Like, yeah,

I I think that it's possible the person's not even a child.

They just, when they think of Instagram and like the accounts in the mix, they think of girl with no job.

Right.

They just want it to be historically accurate.

Right.

That was really crazy.

Where's my check?

I don't think it works that way.

Why not?

I have a

trademark.

But like, okay, five cents.

Here's five cents.

Great.

It'll go towards my baby registry.

The mark shown wetter, how it costs education payments.

It will.

Oh, wait, wait, what did we place a bet on?

$1,000.

Marl Rogers.

Oh, okay.

Well, we'll see.

We'll see.

We actually have sports news today.

The sports world is quaking.

I don't know if you've lots going on.

I have noticed.

Did you also see Travis Kelsey playing golf with Justin Timberlake?

No.

Did you see Travis Kelsey unfollowed Ryan Reynolds?

What?

That's what TMZ reported.

From TMZ, I'm going to believe that, you know, it wasn't that he never followed him or that Ryan Reynolds deactivated.

that's like really crazy no that's what tmz said and i'm just gonna take it at face value because there's always like you know it it was unsearchable or ryan deactivated his account but like let's say tmz got it right you know

i'm just triple checking ryan reynolds no but he's in the city travis and justin playing golf Okay, so he doesn't follow him, but Jerry's out on to whether he followed him before, although I'll trust TMZ.

Wait, that's like really crazy.

And yes, there was, I think, some sort of golf tournament.

So it was Jason Trav and JT.

I don't know who the fourth was.

And they like made a lot of TikToks.

And I saw a lot of videos of them, like people taking footage.

It was very exciting, although I'm not obsessed with that friendship.

I can't lie.

I know, but I could just see Travis being such a big Justin Timberlake fan.

1,000%.

I could also see Taylor being a big Justin Timberlake fan.

Yeah, because she's of that age.

She was totally an in-sync girl.

1000%.

And she

diehard.

He, like, the things that I don't like about his personality, like, like, I feel like she would like

to put in the Venn diagram.

Your dislikes and her likes.

We are tilly-dallying, and there is, like, a little bit of, like, you know, business to attend to.

So,

should we?

Sure.

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Our first story: Stagecoach Recap, Stagecoach 2025 took the the stage this weekend in Palm Springs, California.

Lots of headliners, lots of special guests, lots of fun was had.

Yeah, I was like feeling really good about not going on Friday.

Like, I was talking to Margo, and I was like, obviously, I want to see Luke because he's the headliner, but all the others, I'm like, jelly roll, like, and I'm like, I'll be okay.

I know you hate jelly roll.

I actually don't hate jelly roll.

Actually, at all.

Well, have you listened to his new song with Shabuzzi?

Amen.

It's so good.

I don't hate jelly Roll.

I don't think he's the elk of a headliner for Stagecoach.

But I think he brought the elk.

Okay, so I had a complete change of heart.

Like, I was a doubter.

Brought it.

I was definitely a doubter.

But all in all, I felt like the headliners and just the overall lineup was a little underwhelming.

So I'm like, all right, this is a year that I can't go.

And I'm kind of like Slay.

Like, works for me.

He was the headliner the first night.

Not Zach Bryan, right?

Oh, yeah, Zach Bryan.

He was the big, he was the last one.

Yep.

So Zach Bryan, Jelly Roll, and Lou Comb.

Combs.

I don't listen to Zach Bryan.

I like a lot of Jelly Roll's songs.

I don't know a lot of them, and I thought he definitely was not the elk of a headliner.

And then Luke, I love and would die for, but I did see him in July.

I see him all the time.

Like, I'll survive, you know?

So you thought.

So I thought.

And then I started watching Margot Ashre, our sister's stories.

She is such a good concert goer.

She gets such good footage.

And I felt sick with each day that passed.

Like, first of all, I did not realize that Mumford and Sons were performing.

It was a surprise set.

I did not realize the goo-goo dolls were performing at Stagecoach.

Like,

kill me.

And I just didn't realize, like,

I don't remember when Stagecoach, the headliners, became like a festival within a festival.

It used to be, like, every time I went, like, maybe, like, I remember Shania Twain brought out Nick Jonas.

We thought it was so weird.

But guests weren't really like a requirement.

And now I guess, like, you have to bring out a million people.

Well, not only that, but it's like so many of these people have collab songs with people who are already performing on stage church.

So they're there.

So of course,

Jelly Roll's going to bring out Shibuzi.

Their song came out two days ago.

But also, he's going to bring out Bailey Zimmerman, who's a man, because they have a new song coming out.

So when I saw Jellyroll bring out, Zach Bryan didn't really bring out a ton of gas.

He brought out One Girl to sing the Casey Musgraves part of that song.

But when Jelly Roll brought out so many people, he brought out Alex Warren.

He brought out Shibuzi.

He brought out Lana Del Rey.

Mega Machine Gun Kelly.

Yep.

And like every collaboration.

Brandon Lake.

Everyone's bringing out Brandon Lake these days.

Yes, Christian Singer.

So I was like, you know, that makes sense.

And you know what?

I felt like I was wrong about him not being a headliner because I think he

did like I thought his show looked amazing.

All these guests.

I'm like, that's, I'm like, you know what?

Good for you.

Like you have to acknowledge.

Like, you know, he, I feel like he needed that support just in terms of him having like a smaller discography.

But then Luke brought out a million people, Garth Brooks, Bailey Zimmerman,

Charlotte, was Ben okay.

My husband was not okay.

The way that Luke sang the anthem, like he was born to sing it.

So good.

Ben was like, they sang the anthem.

He was born to sing that song.

I just don't remember when they guessed.

He didn't miss a note, Claudia.

When did guests become like a prerequisite?

I'm not mad at all.

I like it.

I don't know.

And I also feel like for other people, like, you know, especially at Coachella, it's like, I'm not bringing a guest out.

I could do it on my own.

This is my moment.

I don't need anyone.

And like stage shows just feel so much more like a community.

Like, and it's just like, we're having fun.

Let's sing our songs.

So many of, especially Jelly Roll, so many of his most popular songs are collabs.

So, of course, bring them out, bring them out.

Yeah.

No, I agree.

I have no problem with it.

And it's so less serious.

Like, country people aren't like egotistical.

I'm sure some of them are, but like, there's not.

It's not as like, hey, look at me and only me.

They just want to put on the best possible show for the fans who showed up.

And sometimes that means calling up Bailey Zimmerman.

And I do think, like, Bailey's already there playing.

Of course, they have a new song coming out soon.

Sounds amazing.

Like, duh, same for Shibuzi.

Also, did Shibuzi perform at Coachella?

I have no idea.

I believe that he did, which is like pretty cool.

Not a lot of people could perform at both.

No, would you say that now it's like official that Shibuzi is not a one-hit wonder?

When you have a song that big, I've heard listening to Shibuzi Seleux album came out on Friday, Bunch of Collabs, Parjalish.

And I was like,

thinking, and the bar song came on, and I was like, I wonder why nobody's asked me yet if I think Shibuzi's.

Like, I've been waiting for it, like, scared of this question.

Too soon to tell.

So I actually think, I think you're not a fair person to ask because you sit down and listen to Shibuzi's.

Shibuzi's deluxe album.

I think I'm a fair person.

Like, I know, I actually really like Shibuzi, but I don't actively seek out his music.

And now I know three songs of his.

Good News, which is so good.

Amen.

And then The Bar Song.

So I would say he's not a one-hit wonder.

Treat yourself to the whole album.

Okay.

He's so good.

I'm so happy.

It looked really fun.

I wanted to be a hater because I'm jealous and disgusting like that, but it looked amazing.

And I'm happy for everyone who went.

I hope you had the most amazing time.

And I will see you.

I'm listening to awesome shooters and listen to awesome music and soaked up each other's awesomeness.

And I will see you next year.

Okay.

You will?

Yeah.

Even though Luke wouldn't be headlining.

That's okay.

Okay.

Like, not to be obnoxious, but like, I'm kind of a friend of Luke.

I've seen Luke, like, I actually couldn't even count him.

I'd seen you to your private Hampton's birthday concert.

Yeah, for like $10 million.

Maybe I get a friends and family discount, but it would still be pricey.

Yeah, it would be.

But having said that, like, I've seen Luke perform probably like 10 or 15 times.

So if I went to stagecoach,

I'd be okay.

Yeah.

Also, some other news from stagecoach Lana Del Ray did a set and she admitted to kissing Morgan Wallen in her new song.

We talked about...

This was news to me.

Okay, wait, no, it wasn't news to me.

I think I shared on the toast.

What?

I forget who.

I got like such a juicy piece of gossip a little while ago and I said someone, I forget who it was, but it was someone really reputable told me that Lana Del Rey and Morgan Wallen were dating and I said it on the show and like it never came to life.

Well, this is what she said in her new song 57.5.

She said, and it's part of the lyrics.

I kissed Morgan Wallen.

I guess kissing me kind of went to his head.

If you want my secret to success, I suggest you don't go go ATVing with him when you're out west.

Okay, I won't.

Like, okay.

If I ever find myself in a position,

I won't do it.

I ship.

Except for Crocodile Dundee.

Like, she's not.

Right, no, now she's married.

Now she's married.

And is Lana Del Rey country?

So she clearly wants to be now.

And I do think she's genre bending.

Like if she puts on a pair of cowboy boots, all of a sudden she's country.

But I do feel like her presence there changed a little bit like the elk of who who went.

Like I saw a lot of people who went for her who like aren't into country.

I feel like it un-country fied the festival a little bit.

The festival has become a little un-country fied.

Which I hate.

Yeah.

Like Lizzo came out during like Backstreet Boys.

Diplo.

Backstreet Boys are always trying to get into country.

And at least like they're consistent about that.

And at least they respect the genre.

Parasilt and DJ, I think with Diplo, there was like, they always have like a that doesn't matter.

That doesn't bother

country can be remixed.

No, and Diplo, like when he started his foray into country, like it was awesome, was really well researched.

He did so much for the genre.

He did.

I have no problem with like the DJ element.

But Lizzo came out and she sang, I think, um, you know, DNA test.

DNA test, yes.

Um, so like, that's not super country.

No, not at all.

But I think she'll really try anything at this point.

I know, and it's kind of not working.

She performed on SNL.

I know, and I, and again, I don't seek out Lizzo music, but I find it, I find it a testant if a song or an artist is successful, if I'm familiar with like the, the hook, you know, from TikTok or from walking through the grocery store.

And I don't even know what the song is called.

I don't know what it sounds like.

I don't know what you're saying.

Yeah, she performed on SNL.

Got it.

Like, I didn't see a lick of it.

It's not.

Working.

Well, she's doing a lot to sort of make us move on, but I still know.

me too

If you're not watching on YouTube you guys you are really missing out

You know like some people get a fortune scandal, but it's not like something that just gets like seared into your brain I know it's and it's just human nature like there's no rhyme or reason for why someone's scandal sticks and someone's doesn't right yeah like I'm already like forgetting like what did JVN do like I kind of forget

bitchy as hell okay but so was like so but like JVN didn't have a banana involved right it's it's kind of all in the details.

Are you ready for our next story, which is only number two?

That was your station watch recap.

Hope you guys had fun.

Satchy.

Oh, I feel sick.

Next story, Drique Hemsley filed for a divorce from PK Kemsley after his steamy makeout with an amazing race star.

So he was seen making out with a woman who looks like a little bit of a...

TMZ was somehow able to identify like someone who was on a TV show once five years ago.

I know, but like, at least it's better than like, you know, someone who is an accountant.

Like she's a little, if one person at the TMC office watches Amazing Race, there you go.

Yeah, well, I meant more like, I'm suspicious.

Like the way everybody had a referendum on how Mauricio's Mykonos paparazzi picture made it to the internet.

I feel that way about P.K.

Kemsley, who does not get followed by paparazzi.

And if he did, it wouldn't be at this particular random time.

It would have been like right after the separation.

Who they happen to know this woman, like her name.

Like it's all too convenient.

It's a dark alley.

Like, I don't know.

It was outside of Cipriani and beverly hills so

that's also not where you go to do things in the private

yeah but it's not like the sushi park you know like it's not like a classic spot craig's right yeah anyways Photos of him emerged kissing a blonde woman from Amazing Race.

She's also a model.

Her name is Shauna Wall.

She does also happen to look like Dorit.

And now

Dorit has filed for divorce from her husband of 10 years.

Did they make it to the 10 years?

How does that work with that thing in California?

Well, it does kind of align with what Darit was saying at the reunion, which is that like

she

would like to make it work.

She doesn't think he will.

And this sort of aligns with that narrative, right?

Like

he's moved on.

It's over.

Well, I guess they had the sort of separation that was like, we're not seeing other people.

Because now he's clearly crossed the line.

Like when Mauricio was spotted with the girl Ian Mikonos, Kyle didn't file.

No, by the way, it's just rules.

Kyle had a full-blown relationship in the public eye for a year.

Like it's different.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But like this was obviously a shock to Doreen.

And I guess it does make sense that they weren't seeing other people.

And I do think when you're having a separation and you're seeing other people, it's just like a...

A road to divorce.

I think that's like Jackson Brittany, right?

They had like very specific rules.

They could see other people.

I don't know what the more popular way to do things is, but I think the concept of getting separated.

Well, I guess everybody separates for different reasons, right?

If you're separating because it's you legally have to before you get divorced, like sure, go see other people.

Like, we've already made our decision.

But a lot of people like Tom and Lynette and Desperate Housewives, spoiler alert, when they get separated, it was to

intention to get back together.

Right.

It was like to reset to like, and he goes and has this full-blown relationship.

Like, it's so fucked up.

Um,

you're right.

Like, you really need to be clear on the rules of separation.

Yeah.

So, I think they were clear, which is that they're knocksing other people.

And now he's spotted, not only just over, it's not like he was really caught like in the club and the someone with the phone.

Like, he's making out with this woman in front of a restaurant.

It's a fancy, popular restaurant.

It's not a fur estate.

And I think that was it for Darit.

So she has officially filed for divorce.

She's requesting spousal support and that PK pay her legal fees, which is, but that's also standard.

Yeah, they worry me because obviously

to split.

Yeah.

And I think that even for a really, you know, financially healthy people, divorce can be so damaging financially.

And, you know, there has been a lot said about these two's finances for quite some time.

Now I'm not going to make any grand statements, but we all know, you know.

And I do worry about the legal fees, the splitting of the assets, the,

what do you hire a

curect.

Like, I have a pit about this for all of them.

Like, she wants her legal fees paid.

Good luck.

Get in line.

Okay.

Yeah.

It's definitely worrying, but I just want a happy Durit.

Yeah, of course.

And I do love the road, you know.

I know, but the concept that we'd see like a single Durit, her and Erica hitting the town, not upset.

Yeah.

Although that's ways away.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So we're, we're with you, Durit.

Yeah.

And I have questions, and I hope that

the referendum they had this season on Mauricio's the logistics behind his paparazzi picture, I would like the same attention be paid to this because PK is not Mauricio.

Yeah.

Nobody cares.

Nobody follows around PK.

This is actually less confusing than like a remote airport

across the world.

I, because the way I perceived the Mauricio pictures was that they were like taken by a random person.

Mauricio's like really famous, you know.

Yeah, and sold to TMZ.

Yes.

Yes.

Whereas I don't think.

Maybe Shawna Wall called the paparazzi because she was like, choose me.

Pick me.

Love me.

Love me.

Right.

She made the decision for him.

Yeah.

I like that.

That's definitely a possibility.

Are you ready for our next story?

A little more reality TV news.

Yeah.

Because Imroll from Summerhouse is addressing his absence in a Summerhouse cast photo following the reunion as the guys got together and hung out with Andy Cohen.

So after

the reunion,

one of the boys posted a photo of West, Andy, Kyle Cook, Carl, and Jesse Solomon having some beers after the taping, and it led some fans fans to wonder why Imroll wasn't there.

I never saw this photo, but if I had, I wouldn't have even realized Imruel wasn't there.

Why would Imroll be there?

He wasn't on the show.

When I saw the photo, I had two major thoughts.

One, I did think, where is Imrull?

Like, it's all the guys.

You really didn't?

Yeah, of course.

Like, even though he's new and irrelevant, like, did they leave him out?

Like, that's just rude.

There's no way he's sitting for the whole reunion, do you think?

Well, so.

I would have thought he's a full-time cast member.

I was like not.

No, I am.

He left.

He was neighbors.

And so the wind up is that he didn't sit for the whole reunion.

He left hours before.

So it makes sense that they were all just like grabbing beers.

He wasn't going to be there because he left hours before.

But my kind of bigger

thought when I had this, when I saw this photo was a guess, where's him rule?

But also like, this is crazy.

Andy has made it like a real sticking point to always maintain a level of professionalism.

and like no friendships.

That's why like the Carol Radzwell thing was really complicated because he was friends with Carol before she became a castmate.

But he has to treat all the women equally and he's always made it a thing.

He talks about it a lot in his book, like this sort of professional line that he tries to tow mostly with the housewives.

And it's always been like, you know, a little gray area with the guys.

He definitely like loves like the young Southern Charm guys.

And, and this is, when I saw this picture, I was like, this would never happen.

at any other like with a housewives reunion oh let's all the ronie go out never nor would it happen with like i don't know the females from southern from summer house Correct.

Correct.

Never.

Does he even know their names?

No.

No.

I thought it was so crazy.

It is very odd.

Especially because I've read Andy's books and I know that like that's something he took or takes really seriously and it's a way that it works, you know?

You can't be friends with everyone, especially that lawsuit with Liam

McSweeney.

Yeah.

And Marul said

he left early a few hours before they wrapped, so that's part of it.

And then I don't know who responded to him.

Some like how it was.

I think it was like a fan.

Yeah.

Said part of it, so not all of it.

Or he said, I mean, I don't know.

I'm going to chalk it up to that and move on.

It's all good.

He said, I'm so glad I did it.

And I got some publicity and a platform for my English school.

That was always my big goal in all of this.

Yeah.

So it's giving, not coming back.

It's giving me a lot of people.

Not that we thought he was.

Apparently, he founded an English school in Bangladesh.

And so he came on the show to like get some press for it, which I think that he's achieved.

But like, I don't know if coming on the show and like sleeping with everyone in the Hamptons is a good way to do it for english school agreed um

did they talk about the english school just in this last recent episode yeah

i didn't hear it did you this yeah

very briefly well maybe he's also like doing press for summer housing it's to talk about his english school yeah

i know him too he got but he got it on the show he got it on the english school on the show um

agreed that the method to promote the english-speaking school of being like a brothel is not one I would have taken, but I guess we are talking about him.

I never thought he was gonna come back after that.

Talk about everyone on this show.

I never, but you know what?

He, he's like one of the classic examples of like this particular show's real inability to cast men.

And that's why Jesse and Wes were such great additions, you know?

It really makes you realize, think about all the, I can't even tell you their names.

Like over the last

one freaking guy.

They're always just like, they wake up early, they go for a run.

All they care about is their protein shakes and working out, and they contribute nothing to the group dynamic.

That's like Emerald, but about sex, right?

But there was that guy, Alex.

Like, they have these freaky guys.

So, you know what?

He really puts into perspective how fab Jesse and Wes have been as additions to the show because there was like six years in a row where they could not cast one decent guy.

And then they did.

They had Andrea, and then he like didn't even want to be on the show anymore because he was like too handsome and in love with that girl.

Yeah, and he's married now.

Right.

Yeah.

Well, Imruul, it was really nice getting to know you.

I do want to say I did recently speak with someone whom

Imrule was their broker for their apartment.

He's like a rental broker.

He's a guy.

Yes.

Yes.

Same person.

Or does he have a lot of clients?

I'm sure he has a lot of clients, but I'm going to bet that it was the same person.

And

she said it was a fabulous experience.

Very professional.

Yeah.

Great.

I don't know if it worked out with a particular apartment.

I didn't know that he's a broker.

We knew that.

He has sex.

Right.

And so she sent me the picture.

She likes to snuck a photo.

And I'm like, I didn't know he was a broker.

So I'm like, where did you run into him?

Whereas if they had done a little, if they had shared.

Package on him, his life in the city, like his apartment.

Right, right.

Just sex.

One of the stranger

things

to have, like, happened on Summerhouse.

It's so mysterious.

It's actually so funny.

But to be honest, like when he got called out for being like a whore and like abusing the house and not connecting with everyone, and he said that he refuses to live, you know, in darkness and in fear, he's going to live out loud because he was undocumented.

Like that was actually one of the best responses anyone could have given.

Like, what are you going to say to that?

It's like, no, you're right.

Like, live your truth.

Like, you were undocumented and now you're not.

Like, it was such a

creative answer.

I almost have to respect him and give him another season.

He said it in his confessional.

I wish that he said it to someone's face because they, like, I would have loved it.

Because I would have loved to see their reaction.

I would have loved to see how they responded.

Like,

would anyone have been like, stop?

Still,

still stop.

No.

You would have said, you know what?

It's like one of those things.

Me too.

It's one of those things that you say.

It's like a conversation ender.

Like, what can you say to that?

Like, nothing.

Okay, so go.

Yeah.

Sow your wild oats.

The price of eggs, you know?

It's a conversation under, like, the price of eggs.

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The latter half of the show is actually a bit of sports news.

Okay, let's

first

sports caps, our helmets.

Big draft news.

The big story out of the draft over the last few days has been Shador Sanders.

Deion Sanders' son.

I've been like paying attention from afar, and then it became very clear to me that it's a draft day situation starring Kevin Costner.

And it has come full circle because he was now drafted in the fifth round by the Browns.

So when I was at lunch yesterday, literally the table next to me was talking about this.

Everyone's talking about it.

Can you give like a little bit of

a, because I know a little bit about it.

Shador Sanders, he's a college quarterback.

He played at Colorado.

He's the son of Deion Sanders, who's an NFL

Hall of Famer

cornerback, which is what is a cornerback?

I'm not sure.

But he's been like a major NFL player.

He's actually also like being the agent for his son, very involved in this process for his son, Shador.

And Shador was like set to go really really early.

He has a strong arm, good quarterback.

And he wasn't picked in the first round and he wasn't picked in the second round.

And it was like a very highly anticipated player.

It was.

And a lot of people are picking quarterbacks and where he thought he was going to go, like they didn't pick him.

And then it started to like raise these questions, like, why is nobody picking him?

What's wrong with him?

Right.

So I saw some people have like now spoken anonymously about his interviews with the teams that he was like, his behavior was just like very unprofessional.

He was wearing headphones with playing music the whole time he like brought an entourage just like like he had some like bad interviews and like that's literally the premise of draft day like the person they think is the number one player but like their off-field behavior kind of stinks for one reason or another um also i think because his dad was his agent i read i read a couple different theories as to why he wasn't chosen some people said his he's actually not that good of a quarterback like his arm his aim is i don't think it's that um

but someone said because his he doesn't have a traditional agent who like might have told him like hey do this to get picked.

Like,

you know, his dad is probably just like totally hyping him up.

And I think like this process has been very humbling for him.

Yeah.

But he finally got picked in the fifth round to the Browns.

But they already drafted a quarterback in this draft.

Then they have like other quarterbacks on the bench and they have Joe Flacco too.

So he's a bench warmer.

Unless he can prove himself, because I think after Joe, they're going to need their next great quarterback.

It could be him.

Well, the thing is, this is different, but it reminds me a lot of Josh Allen, who was like number one, number one, number one.

And then he had a tweet with an old song lyric and a bad word in it.

And he ended up getting chosen way later and got a like a lesser whatever.

But

it worked out quite swimmingly.

Like the cream rises.

So I also feel like sometimes getting picked like really early in the draft is a bad omen.

Like Tom Grady's 40th round pick.

He wasn't

so much pressure.

No, and it's like, it never wind.

Like, how many people people have won the Heisman?

I've never heard their name.

Yeah, yeah, that's true.

College, well, O.J.

Simpson won the Heisman, but like and Johnny Manzel.

They say that some people are saying that Shador is the next Johnny Manzel.

Like all this talent, too much off-the-feed drama, gonna squander it.

Yeah, but you know, some lessons do need to be learned the hard way.

So while like it sucks, he maybe didn't get like the pick that he wanted, hopefully, if this is what actually happened, right?

That he was just kind of being like diva-ish.

And, you know, you're supposed to be really humble like when you're a rookie um it's an interview it's one of like you're there you they're doing you a favor it's a good lesson to learn if you can receive it and sort of turn the beat around i feel like travis had a situation like this right when he was playing college football he almost got kicked off the team jason really had to step up for him because he was being like you know when you're a college football player you're like a big man on campus and the whole world is your school right so you're the most popular guy you can get whatever you want and then you have to transition to the nfl where you're literally a nobody.

Nobody cares that you were popular in college.

Like, who was all were?

They all were.

You have to really humble yourself, and it's a much bigger stage.

And I think some people struggle with that.

And I think Travis had a little bit of like drama too.

Yeah, he had drama in college.

You know who had draft drama who was like incredibly humble during his draft?

And that was like one of his first Roman Empires of his career.

Aaron Rodgers.

Aaron Rodgers.

He was supposed to go way earlier than he did, but like now, I don't know when he went, but he is a Super Bowl winning quarterback and he didn't go in the first round.

It literally doesn't matter.

I mean, Brock Purdy was Mr.

Irrelevant.

Sorry, it matters for your paycheck in a big way.

Yes, yes.

But, you know, if you prove yourself, you become valuable.

You get

most people get their big contracts.

Man Taiteo.

Man Taitayo.

That is like the tragedy of our time.

And I think the NFL could actually be doing more to make up for what happened to Manta Teo.

For the money loss.

I think everyone should be doing more.

We did.

We booked a cameo for Manta Teo.

We did, but like, we also weren't the ones responsible for like his

fall from grace.

And like I would have picked him in the first round if I was.

100%.

Even though I think that

players don't put a lot of pressure.

Obviously, it's like cool to be like the number one, whatever.

But look at Brock Burdy.

The dead last Mr.

Irrelevant is now, he went to the Super Bowl.

He is a quarterback for a huge franchise.

It doesn't mean anything, but obviously in the moment, like you want to go first.

Yes, no, but it also like means a lot for your money.

And when you've been like waiting for this, you're...

Well, not that, you know, the the Sanders family doesn't have a lot of

wants for much.

But in general, like every round, less and less, it's like just like less and less money when this is like your big chance.

So this is like a trend in sports with like fathers being really involved in their sons, fathers who are also players.

Like

happening with LeBron.

Bronnie.

Yeah.

Also LeVar Ball.

Like the Ball family.

It was like a crazy...

Ben tried to explain it to me once.

Like the dad, like the like the son's really talented.

Like, but you can really be so so talented nobody wants to deal with like your family antics you know even if your dad is lebron yeah it's true it's like

a pro or a con to have dion on the sidelines in a lot of ways it's a pro he has so much experience he's like can you know help out with coaching but they don't want that jackie they have like a 300 person coaching staff

like get your dad the fuck out of here i don't care who your dad is true you would think it would be like something

if he was playing in a high school yeah great your dad was in the nfl come coach up with us like this is the nfl like they seriously have a thousand people on staff.

They don't need your dad.

It's true.

And then, did you see the prank call?

This was really bad.

Those kids.

Oh, my God.

So, a bunch of kids from Ole Miss.

And I don't know why they filmed themselves doing this.

They made a prank call to Shador Sanders.

And we have footage of both sides because I guess Shador's camp has been filming him through the whole draft.

Of course, having the conversation.

And the kids say, hey, this is

the head coach at what was the school?

The team.

I don't know.

some team some team the some team and they said and we're picking you in the next round they had the next pickup and they're like we're picking you in the next round he was like so excited this was after he like it had been a long time he hadn't gotten picked and then they said like you're just gonna have to wait a little while and he was like oh that was okay and he thought that was weird and then they like five one minute later the pick comes and it's not him and it's someone else and it was a prank call from like these students and it turns out like uh the son of the coach of the falcons that's how they got his number like someone one of the coaches like sons had Shadur's number and the kid took it and him and his friends prank called him.

It's like really mean.

That's so mean.

I want to say I'm surprised it doesn't happen more because now that I think about it, like there should be like a designated landline like that only like one number can call it.

What's stopping anyone from like your friends from prank calling you, you know?

Like you're picking up on your personal cell phone when you get drafted?

Yeah.

Or is it like your agents?

Well, no, your personal cell phone, they call you and they're like, right.

It's you.

Like draft day.

And so how do you stop like other people from calling you?

Like I guess most of the time, like, you know, you could see the phone number.

They called from a private line.

And Shador had said, like, nobody has this phone number.

I think it was a new number.

But, like, if you are in, if you are a coach, you have his number.

I'm really sad.

Like,

the crank call is not cool.

The kid put out like an apology.

But, like.

He's an asshole.

He's an asshole.

And, like, not only did they do that, they, like, filmed it and they posted themselves doing it.

He's an asshole.

And not only that, if I was his father, I'd give him such a smack across the face.

Like, to make the dad look bad, put the dad's professional like job at stake.

What a little shit.

Yuck.

The Falcons defensive coordinator.

How humiliating.

Like, seriously, your idiot son.

Idiots.

Oh, I feel sad.

So that's the latest drama.

And once again, if you haven't watched draft day, you're missing out on critical understanding of how these things work.

It's that time of year.

You know, you can step outside and say, oh, it's time to watch draft day.

I think it's time to watch draft day.

Winds in the east.

Chill coming in.

Time to watch.

They're trying to be a sequel.

Like, I don't know how many.

They don't, actually.

They do.

Like, everything you needed to know about draft day, you already learned.

Like, there's nothing left for you to learn.

It's so, but it comes up all the time.

In your life, yeah.

It does.

It does.

They nailed the draft day process.

Yeah.

Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

Some more sports news.

Sure.

Bill Belichick's girlfriend, Jordan Hudson, is going viral for awkwardly interrupting interrupting his CBS interview to shut down relationship questions.

So Bill Belichick, you know, famed coach of the Patriots.

It's insane when somebody, this happens a lot, like actually it doesn't happen a lot, when somebody's so prestigious, somebody so like, you know,

glorified.

becomes like a joke, you know?

So he's been becoming a joke because he's dating a 24-year-old.

He's, you know, a hundred.

In his 70s.

Yeah.

Like there's all this like pictures of them and like videos and it's just they do yoga.

It's confusing situation, but like a lot of older men date younger girls.

And so like we've never even spoken about them because like whatever Bill Velichix wants to do, like whatever.

No, this one gets is getting a lot of attention, but it's also probably one of the largest age gaps.

It's 50 years.

Yeah, yeah, it's very surprising.

And now he gave an interview to CBS Sunday morning and they were asked about how they met.

And he looked, by the way, he looked disgusting.

He did so weird.

That That is the headline.

Yeah, and it wasn't like a shirt with holes.

It was a shirt with one hole.

Up until this interview, I just thought Bill Belichick's getting his dick wet and like what

you would do it too if you could.

Yeah.

Then I saw the hole in the shirt and now I'm worried.

Yes, the feelings and the thoughts that I might have had on these two is completely different now.

One, due to the hole, obviously, but two,

like, period.

That's the biggest thing.

No, it's not because my biggest takeaway was like, you know, you see someone who's 50 years older, who is wealthy and famous, and you realize like it's, it's, it's gross, but it's also a fucked up relationship, the power imbalance of it all.

Meanwhile, we got a glimpse into their relationship.

She's running things.

He's never looked worse.

She is so scary.

She's not being groomed by anyone.

He, she's grooming him.

Like, he's taking advantage of him.

Yes, she has, it's elder abuse.

She has balls of steel the the way she just chimed in.

Like, who the fuck does she think she is sitting in on the CBS interview, period?

Let alone being like, not saying that.

We're not talking about this.

And she is

in the BBC interview.

She's sitting there on the side, like his PR.

Yep.

We all might have at one point been worried about this young girl.

After what I've seen, I am worried about this old man.

Yep.

It's giving elder abuse.

1,000%.

She is like, she's like a Ford, built tough.

Everything I was seeing of her, I was like, oh my god, who the fuck is this girl?

I just thought she was like a quiet 27-year-old.

And you know, it makes you sad when you see them like, you know, with an old man.

She obviously is like getting taken for a ride, whatever.

I'm like, oh, no, this is not at all what I thought it was.

And I surmise that he wrote a book, and that's the reason for this press.

Oh, okay.

Why would you invite the thing?

There's something really good.

They referenced the acknowledgement section of his book where he said, like, my, my muse and my advisor, Jordan.

Advisor?

Like, I need to get the direct quote back.

There's going to be a documentary about what these two are doing.

Well, at the very least, it's an episode of American Greed.

Yeah.

It's a classic case.

It's a classic case of, like, Jen Shaw, right?

Why can't we even know how they met?

Yeah.

This whole thing is so.

The clip is chilling.

Yeah, and the shirt

The shirt.

I have so many, it was like a big hole, too.

And in the most prominent space that a hole could be.

Not even like

a circuit.

No, right below the collar.

And so when you care about someone and they're doing the TV show, you don't let them out of the house like that.

No, I fear

it's kind of like a Britney Murphy situation, right?

Where like her, it's alleged that her husband at the time was like really controlling and she ended up like malnourished and her career went in the like that's what he looked terrible.

Yeah.

He looked sick.

And I know he's in his 70s, but like when he was on the field, he was on the, you know, coaching football games running around outside a couple of years ago.

Like he's really deteriorated.

Yeah.

I hope that he has like friends who can check in on him, but she probably wouldn't let.

No, she's definitely a scary woman.

I'm afraid of her.

Officially.

Officially.

Whereas this whole time I was like, oh, you know,

she's like the victim here.

Oh, she didn't know that she's with a 70-year-old.

Right.

No, and she's just like a dumb girl who's getting, you know, carried away.

This is something she'll regret one day.

No.

He'll regret it.

She is in the will, 1,000%.

And slowly poisoning him in his food.

He will be dead within the year.

Yeah.

She could have at least put a nice shirt on him so that we would have less concern.

No, now we're suspicious.

She said I calculated, and that was a miscalculation.

Agreed.

And she's also new to this whole scene, so she doesn't realize, like, we could hear you, and you know, CBS is going to keep that in.

She thought it was going to be like 100% cut.

Yeah.

Not today, girly.

No.

Pray for Bill.

Hilarious.

Seriously, pray for Bill.

Yeah.

That's our show.

Tiz.

Anything else you want to chat about?

No.

I made a pargy loaf this morning of bread.

So did I.

It's been a while since I've made one so pargy, and I'm really looking forward to getting into it.

Slapping on some butter.

A little.

Oh, yeah, and my new butterbell.

Oh, how excited.

Yeah.

I'm excited for that.

I've got big things happening.

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