Putting The Celebraciòn Back in Viernes: Friday, April 25th, 2025

53m
  1. Time100 Gala 2025 (18:25)
  2. Billy Ray Curys reveals text from Elizabeth Hurley that ignited romance after being 'knocked down' amid Firerose divorce (Page Six) (25:59)
  3. Sophie Turner sparks breakup rumors with aristocrat boyfriend Peregrine Pearson after nearly 2 years of dating (Page Six) (31:15)
  4. 'Royal Pains' Reboot Starring Mark Feuerstein In Works at NBC (Deadline) (34:12)
  5. How influencers are the reason for rise in shark attacks (NY Post) (43:59)


  • Queenie and Weenie of The Week (49:13)


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Good morning, girlies.

It's the toast.

It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.

It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know.

We'll start your day off swirly.

It's the toast.

I sound amazing.

Welcome back to the toast and happy Friday.

Congratulations.

Yes, y se puede.

Si, se, puede.

Viernes, baby.

Oh, Viernes, baby.

Happy Viernes.

Oh,

Feliz Viernes.

You know what's so funny is obviously we took Spanish growing up, like in school, and one of the first things you learn are the days of the week.

And so many of the days of the week, like slap in Domingo.

Like, don't come looking for me on Domingo.

Very nice is so Tuesday.

It's so Tuesday.

friday being viernas i want to say doesn't work for me like it's not the vibe viernes

lunes is so monday oh lunes like moon day

sabado like sabado i'm partying it up at the club like sabado domingo miercoles hump day

thursday The only one I feel like really doesn't match the vibes of the week is Villernes.

It doesn't feel celebratory enough.

Well, maybe we could put the celebración back in Viernes the way

that the linguistics intended.

I don't know.

I just not, I just don't like it.

Like, I don't think it's a good word.

I think we need to change it.

Early title idea, putting the celebración back in Viernes.

1000%.

Jackie and I actually had a long and hard discussion yesterday about titles.

We still have a long and hard discussion about titles every day.

We do, but like.

When you look at the other podcasts in the charts, like, and anytime we've had a meeting with like Spotify or YouTube, they're always like, listen, your titles, we love the creativity, but you guys need to be a little bit more strategic, like SEO-wise, like putting in the topics, being like Real Housewives, Kaba, Scandival, like

can't use Scandival.

That is like an outlier that will never, the type of SEO that will never happen again.

Yeah, those are the things that

we're talking about, Blake Lively,

and Justin Baldoni.

And like, sorry, no, it's going to be Mr.

and Mr.

Maldonado from here on out.

Like, so we know we're like hindering our own growth because we refuse to get in line.

In our our defense, when there is a day where there is news that we know people are tuning in for, Taylor on the field, when we know that like that's what everyone's listening, like Super Bowl recap, we always include it in the title.

Yesterday, we went through all the stories.

There was nothing that was going to make someone tune in who wasn't already tuning in.

So, like, let's be ourselves.

And put the celebración back in Viernas.

What was our title yesterday?

What was our title yesterday?

I know we had a hard time.

Oh, Wood V.

Solomon.

Oh, that was good.

But like, not everybody watches Summer House.

So we are emulating some people, but maybe some people who watch Summer House who don't listen to the toast saw that and clicked on it.

Probably not, but you know, it's kind of hard.

What we're trying to emulate to our listeners is like, we make it look easy, right?

We look fabulous, glamorous.

Like you see lifestyles of the rich and the famous.

You don't know how hard this job is.

And there are a lot of shows like ours that like do the title with the subjects in the title and they do a good job, but it's just like, for some reason we can't do that like their titles would not work for us but also like where else are you going to find a show where the title is mr and mr maldonado like it's kind of what sets us apart i'm sorry no and they bring me so much joy so like what about us and our serotonin levels and we need them to be able to do this show if we just become cognizant executives at youtube care about that if we just become cogs

like

jon stamos opens up

actually oh, wait, I was just on the Good Guys podcast.

I found out the craziest thing about Jon Stamos.

I heard something about Jon Stamos also recently.

I feel like maybe it was the same thing.

Okay, tell me.

You know, the way that like John Mayer has become like a modern member of Grateful Dead, right?

Like People Who Passed, that's what Jon Stamos is.

He's the drummer for the Beach Boys and has been for like 30 years.

Oh, that's not what I, that's news to me.

And they were like, you don't know that?

I was like, no, I never heard that before but like when they go on tour it's jon stamos when jon stamos was on full house he was the beach boys drummer that's so interesting good for john stamos i know but sad off in the comments john stamos is opening up ben and josh were like you don't know that i'm like no and they were trying to make me feel bad sound off in the comments did you know that no and that's not sounding like the jon stamos fun fact that i learned but i can't remember what it was but it wasn't anything like groundbreaking maybe something like he lives in australia something like that like he's australian so you were like hanging out with somebody extremely boring.

I don't even know where I heard it.

It was probably in the comments.

So that's really nice of you to say.

Oh, speaking of the comments, okay, George Clooney stands, rise up.

He dyed his hair for a roll.

Okay.

It's still ugly.

Can we do anything?

Like, I saw that comment on so many irrelevant posts.

Yeah, no, people really wanted me to know.

And let me tell you, I know, and I had a feeling when I was saying it.

I'm like, it's probably, because I know he's in this big Broadway show.

Like, it's called like, good, it's called like hard night, good morning or something.

I don't give a rip.

And I was like, it's probably four, but I wanted to drive the point home.

Like, I don't care.

You're still ugly with your hair.

Like, I stand by everything that I said, except, yes, correction.

He didn't change it like just to look young.

He changed it for a role.

Okay, like put on a wig.

No.

And like, maybe that roll should have gone to a younger man with brown hair.

Yeah, like if you have to dye the gray out of your hair, maybe the role's not for you.

It's too old for you.

They would never give it to a woman who had like gray hair and the woman needed brown hair.

They'd give it to a brown-haired, younger woman.

Brown-haired girl.

Oh my God.

I'm so happy it's the weekend.

I also just like really looking forward to not getting out of bed.

It's getting harder to get out of bed.

And it's getting, like, thank you so much for not even like acknowledging my outfit.

Like, I'll acknowledge it, the sort of elephant in the room, the Lynnet Scavo-coated outfit.

I saw it on your Instagram before I saw you on my screen, so I had time to process it.

Like, sometimes I see it.

And you knew better than for the first time.

Yeah, I could, I just knew, because also you've told me to stop talking about your looks.

Yes, I did.

Sometimes I'm seeing you for the first time when I open up my laptop and I'm like, Claudia, where'd you get those pants?

Right now, it's too hot to care about anything other than my own comfort.

Where did you get those pants?

I like

them.

I want to tell you, I have them in two.

I have the exact same pair.

One that's like a sort of Capri and one that goes down to the ankle.

I'm sure you saw me wearing the ankle ones a few days ago.

They're the best pants I own.

Everything.

Everything maternity that I have gotten from Amazon is the best thing that I own.

Like,

do you remember?

The cheaper, the better.

never mind i'm not gonna say what i'm just gonna say what's it gonna dunk on you but like you don't what dunk like you remember when you said like you weren't buying maternity clothes yeah and i don't consider buying from amazon maternity clothes like that's the point i'm trying to make these pants for like 11

okay but like no i'm not gonna do like a fancy maternity line like

unless i have some sort of a gala which nobody's invited me to there aren't even that many fancy maternity lines but there are like i thought you were gonna say there aren't even that many galas no there aren't that many invitations

Yeah, no, Amazon, I consider safe.

Like, I'm really not about spending money on this particular era of my life.

But you have to be closed.

Like, you have to walk out of the bathroom.

But I have to be clothed.

Correct.

And therefore, enters the chat, Amazon.

I'm three seconds away from ordering something from Tebu.

You should look at ASOS Maternity.

Same price point.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

But I'm going.

I'm not going to tell you what to do anymore.

You're just going to step up.

You're going to lay down the bomb.

In the same way you can't learn the lesson of fucking listening to me.

I can't learn.

Oh, my God.

The other day I was trying to get you to do something.

what was it it was listen to a song and you were so scared i wasn't scared like at all i listened to it and as you literally told me we were on face time i listened to it i did a spotify share play i listened i actually didn't like vibe with the song immediately and to to my own horn

you also told me like a couple face times ago when i you know opened myself up and told you my secret truth about sam hunt you were like also listen to this one i literally listened to it added it to my liked songs and i was listening to it yesterday on the way to my face you're like i do listen to you bitch sorry sorry the song you suggested wasn't good resistant by the way the song no i'm not i both times i listened to you the song is objectively an amazing song it's called it wasn't count my blessings by seth schluder i don't know who that is Counting My Blessings.

It's just like a beautiful song about like I didn't think that it was so beautiful.

Like, and that's, and I think that I'm entitled to feel that way because not one week prior, I actually liked a song that you recommended.

That's fine.

But anyways, just what I was going to say, like, just like you don't take heed and just like, trust me, and like, just listen to me when I say things the first time.

But see, I don't think that's necessarily the truth anymore.

I feel like I've been so like.

Pad.

So what?

Pad.

I'm wearing one today, right now, in this moment.

After months, I've been telling you to wear one since like months.

Jackie, I didn't need a pad until I needed it and then I took your advice.

Okay.

Well, anyways, my lesson is like maybe I should just stop trying.

Oh my God, victim.

Okay.

It's just a murder.

Marty.

To foist things on you.

Sure, sure yeah that's the lesson that you come to it in your own time in your own way sure sure okay you want to be a martyr go for it no no no i'm not being a martyr i'm saying i'm the foister

and maybe i shan't be the foister oh my god you're being such a victim right now like literally not i'm the foister

the villain who wants to be

martyr No, you're not painting yourself as a villain.

You're kind of being like very Jesse Solomon right now.

You're Jesse Solomon with your song.

You're Jesse Solomon.

You are.

The thing is, half the time I love him more than I ever loved.

I'll just be a robot.

Like, that's literally Jesse Solomon.

Half the time.

I love him more than I've ever loved anyone on reality TV.

So when you say that to me, I'm going to think about that half of him and I'm going to take another compliment.

That's actually an amazing exercise in perspective.

Like, I actually love that.

That's actually really inspiring.

Yeah.

That's beautiful, Jackie.

We have a fabulous episode for you guys today.

It's Friday, which means, of course, wrapping up the week with Queenie and Weenie, which is is one of my favorite things, ways to wrap.

And I'm actually excited to share mine.

I don't think you guys are expecting.

Interesting.

Just when it comes to Queenie and Weenie, expect the unexpected.

I don't know.

When it comes to Queenie and Weenie, expect us to like re-say everything we said all week.

Yeah, but it's actually, isn't it interesting, like what sits with you all week?

Well, actually, my, I'm glad we're doing Queenie and Weenie this week because mine is about a topic that we have not discussed that is not like story worthy, but it's queenie worthy so okay stay tuned for that new discussion coming soon i love like doing like big teasers for queenie and weenie at the beginning of the show how would you describe your queenie and weenie the elk of like in terms of discussion uh it's like a deep cut from this week a deep cut from this week very good very good like i'm gonna say it and you're gonna be like what You're gonna have to hear it a couple times before you get the joke, you know?

Very good, very good.

So I don't have any qualms about, you know, doing the damn thing unless there's anything else you wanted to chat about.

No, I'm making a beef stew today.

So that's like my big news of the day.

I found these beautiful beef chunks at the supermarket.

It's so hot.

How can you make a beef stew?

No, it's not like what I was thinking of making, but I saw these beautiful beef chunks.

They were labeled.

I know.

And they were, of course, kosher at the supermarket.

They never have had these chunks before.

And it said beef cubed for stew.

And so.

I thought, well, the universe is telling me to make a beef stew.

Ben had a similar experience.

He saw like a short rib at the the kosher grocer.

He just couldn't say no to.

So like, I got home last night.

I was sweating.

I was like, I walked to him for my facial and I was like, seriously, I got home and I was on okay.

I was so hot.

And he's like huffing and puffing over this big cauldron of short ribs.

And I was like, yay.

Oh my God.

I didn't want to be.

He started it so early in the morning and he was like, so excited.

He's like, I tried it.

It's, you're going to fucking love it.

Like, and he was so excited.

You guys, I was sweating while I was eating it.

Like, it's too hot for a short rib.

What did he make?

Like,

how did he cook them?

Was it like it was like in the Dutch oven, slow cooked all day?

It looked like brisket.

It was like falling off the bone.

It was fucking delicious.

Yeah.

I made short ribs once, and it's just a fatty cut of meat.

I didn't know.

Yes.

Yes, it was quite fatty.

I think Ben made a video.

So if you're gonna be.

It was fatty like 15.

Yeah.

I think it was fat like me.

If you are looking for a recipe, I think Ben has a video coming out soon.

I'm excited to see what you ate.

I love knowing what Coachers ate.

Yeah, Coacher's was eating good, except, you know, I'm really taking my

cutoff time really seriously.

Like, I stopped eating at 6.30.

I'm not up at five in the morning having a bowl of cereal.

Like, I was so, it wakes, I'm so hungry, but I refuse to eat anything

after dinner because I will wake up choking on my own vomit.

It's so true.

You can't.

But I'm so hungry.

So it's like, I'm either waking up choking on my own vomit or I'm waking up a couple hours later because I'm so fucking hungry.

Yeah.

I think hunger that wakes you up is like another level.

I know, but I think that that's better than like the choking.

Personally, I think it is too.

Personally.

What are you guys having for dinner tonight?

You know what?

We were just discussing it.

I saw the scroll on TikTok.

Actually, you know what?

I don't want to say what I was about to say.

I'm going to take it back.

It's not titillating or controversial.

I just, I'm going to spare you guys, you know?

Like, because it's boring?

No,

I just don't want to say it.

Like, I can't explain it.

Can you just tell us why?

Like,

why you don't want to say it?

No, like, there's not even a reason.

It's just like,

like,

I don't want to say it

just don't like because it's like long-winded and boring or no no no it's um weird like i'll tell you about it later you know okay do you think i'll understand why you didn't want to say it yeah yeah okay

yeah

okay

Let's just move on, you know?

Let's move on.

And if I look especially tired, it's because I was up so late being such an active participant watching the next game.

Like I was being such a good wife.

Oh, yeah.

We were talking about how much TV was on last night.

Let me tell you what I watched.

None of it because I went to sleep at Harry o'clock last night because he slept in my bed.

The best.

And I got so much sleep.

I got like 11 hours of sleep.

If anybody wants to know what happened in game three, I could tell you.

Who won?

The Knicks won.

The Knicks.

T-L-D-R.

The Knicks won.

They won in a way game, but they had just lost a home game.

So it's 2-1.

I think the next game is maybe tomorrow night or something.

Once again, Jordan was his boyfriend, like carrying the whole team.

It's just shocking to say.

I didn't see her on TV, though, last night.

That was a mess.

Sounds like you'll have to to go to a game.

No, I'm okay.

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I'm literally cracking up that like as sisters, we're insulting one another by calling each other Jesse Solomon.

Like seriously, we are so funny.

And also, like, that's not even that mean.

Yeah, we like kind of like him.

I'm having a bubbly today

because they ran out of LaCroix.

And the last time I had a bubbly, I had actually one of the worst days of my life.

Just like I wasn't feeling good, like, everything was going wrong.

I don't want to blame the bubbly, but if I have a bad day today, like,

we'll see.

Yeah.

Once, fool me once.

Shame on me.

Correct.

Okay.

Correct.

Keep us posted.

We'll do.

Our first story.

Speaking of galas, the time 100 gala was yesterday.

Another gala I wasn't invited to.

Because you were not on the Time 100 most influential list, because you are actually influential.

Another list I was left off of.

Therefore, you couldn't have been on this list.

This event, though, is always like partalicious.

And stuff like always happens.

Obviously, when I think of the Time 100, I think of when Taylor wore that purple, pink and yellow dress.

And I think she performed Love Story on the piano.

Or when Amy Schumer laid on the floor in front of Taylor.

Oh, yeah.

I happen to like really, really especially the older I get I like really have learned to like think Amy Schumer is the funniest person ever that was not her funniest moment I can't lie you know you win some you lose some you have to take chances

right a hundred percent of the shots you don't take 1000 um Blake Lively is kind of the headline news of the event because she attended with Ryan and she's you know the talk of the ton.

And they gave a speech.

She gave like a little speech from her chair.

Chair.

It wasn't like a formal.

I thought it was weird when she was like standing at her table with a microphone.

Yeah, because I heard she gave a speech first.

I was like, oh, she gave a speech.

Oh, that's kind of like major.

And then I saw the speech.

And so she was like standing at her table.

Makes me feel like other people like stood at their table and gave speeches.

Probably other influential recipients.

But we're only sure.

She was a titan.

She's a titan.

She was in the titanium.

The titan of the year.

For her charitable work.

And then she gave a speech, an emotional speech, where she talked about her mother who

was in attendance, correct?

Was in attendance and she said that her mother was the victim of the worst crime someone can commit against a woman

she said that she had concealed her undeserved shame throughout her life blake felt the need to share her mom's story in order to make an impact saying if we name it we change it now the philanthropy she was highlighted for and the activism she was highlighted for in the time article and what put her on the list was with the naacp so she wasn't referencing that she was talking about some more activism obviously that feels so pertinent to the conversation everyone was having about It Ends With Us, which is a film about domestic violence.

And she was accused of, you know, not taking the issue seriously and not talking about it as a major conversation during the press and just like promoting her hair care line.

So

everything she does now, I have to look at as, you know, strategically.

She's propping herself up.

A microscope, like no one else is at the current moment.

Yes.

Except for Haley Bieber.

Well, she's always under the microscope.

It's not about the moment.

But she's also like prepping for this big trial.

And no matter who the jury, you're supposed to have like a completely unbiased jury, but with something so big and so scandalous and so famous, like everyone's going to come in with like a couple of preconceived notions.

So you're also playing for the court of public opinion.

And so I have to look at it through that lens, which I hate because I do believe like what she said was true and real and honest, but

she's playing a part, right?

So is Justin Baldoni, but he's not doing public events at this current moment.

I thought she looked great.

I thought she spoke great.

I'm not some, like, I'm not who she's trying to convince, right?

Yeah.

I'm like praying she's right.

You got a lot of riding on this.

I do.

Kind of like all of your.

Don't say credibility.

No, I wasn't going to say that.

That's literally not what I was going to say.

But like, what are you going to say?

I can't think of the word.

So me.

There is not a word for what I'm thinking of.

I still feel like fairly good about my take on the whole situation.

Now, I know everybody hates mine, but I have yet to see something.

And I am open to changing my mind.

Like, I'm not being stubborn just because I like put my fork in the ground on Blake.

I feel good about my relative neutrality and having left Camp Blake.

I feel good about where I stand.

And so, I also feel like a speech like this is not really for me because there's nothing that she could say in the speech that's going to change how I feel about whatever happened two years ago.

And I think she did, like, reference that, the scandal very vaguely, just being like, you know, well, also they're talking about violence against women and her mother.

Like, I think it's all sort of tied together, but for me, it's not tied together.

Like, this speech is a separate thing.

I know maybe she

obviously has to be a little more calculated in everything that she says and does.

So maybe talking about this issue in this way

is favorable to her case in some way.

Not for me.

No, not for you.

But I think for people who one of the biggest,

what her detractors are saying about her most frequently is that she did this big press tour for the

film about domestic violence and never once spoke seriously about domestic violence, highlighted the issue, and just made it all about her and her outfits and her flowers and her hair care company.

And so, for this feels like a direct response to that critique of her, which is one of the biggest.

Yes.

And as someone in the neutrality camp, I don't give a rip about that because that's how the book was marketed.

That's like, that's what the studio had

told.

Yeah, that's what the cast was told.

And I think that it would have been the right strategy had Justin then not like came out and made it so serious and somber.

We know the movie is about that, but like, I didn't think that the press tour needed.

Like, I do not care one iota that she did not mention it and that she focused on her hair care, which is apparently, like, really fabulous.

I just want to say I was getting my hair cut with mahogany and she had Blake Brown Beauty.

Yes, me too.

And she used some for me.

She said, I asked her about it.

She was really great.

I agree.

I also think people glaze over the fact that like there is a full memo that we saw that the studio told the cast not to that that the tone of the press tour should be positive enlightened fun female friendship whatever um that was like a strategic move so justin then like being so serious about it like makes everybody else look so bad and as someone who has left team blake and i think there's so much inconsistency like honestly i'm i'm not buying what she's selling i all i would like to ask justin like why did you do that why when everyone else was given this directive why did you then and go and it's like a hero complex right it's like such an easy way to make yourself like it's to endear yourself Right.

Of course, he wouldn't admit that, but like, I would like to know what he would say to that.

Like, why, what?

Because you couldn't not be serious about it.

That's your studio, your Wayfarer Productions.

Right.

You guys sent out that memo.

So why would you go and make everyone else look stupid?

Right.

And I think as a viewer slash somebody who read the book without having any idea what it was about, I actually think it was a better, more enjoy, enjoy, enjoyful, enjoyable,

enjoyable.

Oh my, thank you.

Stroke.

Enjoyable experience going into it sort of blind, right?

Like, you don't know that the book is about to take this turn.

And so you kind of put yourself in the position of the reader, right?

Like, yeah.

It was the position of Lily.

The protagonist.

Yeah.

Sorry, not the reader.

Thank you.

So I understand why that was what they wanted for the film.

But I don't understand why he then made it his mission to do the opposite.

Yeah.

Agreed.

So it looks like everyone had a fun time at the party.

It always looks like like a nice gala.

Like they spend good money on it.

Good people show up.

Well, the people they think are the most influential.

So they hide

the list.

Yeah, no.

So if I worked at Time, I would just make it all the people I want to meet.

Because no matter how famous you are, if you're on that list, you do go to the gala.

Like Taylor Swift went.

So I would make the list all the swirlies that I want to meet.

And just know, like, Taylor Swift is not influential because she was not on the list.

She's not on the list.

Right.

She wasn't influential at all this year, which I didn't.

I didn't realize that.

Yeah.

Are you ready for our next story?

A little update with Billy Ray Cyrus and Elizabeth Hurley.

Really?

Yeah, we're getting some backstory on how they got together.

Billy Ray Cyrus received a warm message from Elizabeth Hurley when he was down in the dumps from his divorce with his ex-wife, Fire Rose.

She slid into the GM.

She texted him.

She texts him.

How does she have his number?

They worked on a movie together in 2022 called Christmas in Paradise.

They only did a few scenes together, he said, but the couple times we were in the same scene, there was chemistry there.

We just laughed, and it was at a time when I wasn't laughing a lot.

So then him and Fire Rose are divorcing.

And she...

She, where did he share this?

He told Apple Music Countries the Ty Bentley show.

God, okay, it's like a radio show.

A radio show.

And maybe if I had, maybe if Spotify was down and I was listening to country radio on Apple this morning, I would have heard it.

You would have heard it.

So the Texas from the mysterious sender, he didn't have her phone number.

It said, hey, it looks like life might be a little tough and just wanted you to to know I'm in your corner.

You've got a friend in your corner.

So, he didn't have her number, so he responded, Who is this?

That's such a brutal response to like such a heartfelt message.

When she revealed her identity, he said he thought of all the people to reach out to me in that second, that maybe I needed most, this friend who made me laugh.

So,

they said they had lost touch for two years, which is when he was married to Fire Rose after the movie,

and then reconnected when she sent this text message.

Like, I want to get on board and think that this is cute because if it was anybody else, like, I would.

But I just know.

I saw what I saw.

Right.

I know there's like something so smelly going on here, like, physically smelly.

I, I can't, I can't ship.

Like, I'm kind of at this standstill.

Like, in another lifetime, I would be obsessed with these two.

He, that devil slank, skank Molly.

Like, I'm sorry.

I can't get on board.

They're a character for the movie they did, Christmas in Paradise.

Oh, what was it it called?

Christmas in Paradise, starring Elizabeth Hurley, Billy Ray Cyrus, and Kelsey Grammer.

I absolutely have to watch this movie.

Kelsey Grammer?

Yeah, it's kind of star-studded.

And it's so crazy that of the two leading players.

Oh, I see.

Yeah, like Elizabeth Hurley is clearly, like, stuck between Kelsey and Billy.

Oh, my.

What is watching?

We could see him the way she did on set, and maybe he was, like, presenting himself well at the time.

Kelsey Grammer does so many things that are incongruous with like who he is, which is Frasier, right?

Like he's like a Jerry Seinfeld.

You don't see Jerry Seinfeld out here doing like Hallmark movies with Billy Ray Cyrus.

He like forgets how famous he is.

Sometimes, I mean, even being on the real house face of Beverly Hills, like that was really crazy, even though he was very, he was on there very strategically.

He was on there to divorce his wife's wife.

Yeah, like in her big red dress at the Tony's.

But I find that like so many of his current bookings don't align with that of Frasier.

I feel like he lives a very expensive life.

He like needs the money.

It's giving broke.

Yeah.

I mean, he did have to give Camille Grammer $30 million, like half of his Frasier money.

I know, but it's like Jennifer Tilley's husband gave her 10% of The Simpsons and everyone like lived happily ever after.

Except that he died.

But like until he died, like he didn't die because she got 10.

Like that's just a separate thing.

Although The Simpsons, I do feel, is in an entirely different league than Frasier.

Okay, but like Frasier's in the same league as Friends and they are all sitting pretty for the rest of their lives.

Yes.

Although Friends, I think, has entered the 21st century quite well.

Like new people are always watching it.

I've never even seen Frasier.

I don't think like Gen Z binges Frasier.

And that's a good idea.

It's like a show that a certain generation, it's a show that a certain generation loved, but it's not timeless.

Yeah.

Anyways, it's surprising that Elizabeth Hurley like gravitated towards Billy Ray on setting like not Kelsey.

She's how

Kelsey.

Listen, you can't put Elizabeth Hurley in a box.

I have to watch this movie.

Like if I, if I see it like, on any streamer, like, when I'm casually looking, like, I will watch it.

I will watch it.

But, like, I think that's the only way this relationship will make sense to me.

But it also makes me feel like they were dating when he performed at the inauguration.

Maybe she did that.

Like, because she's British, like, maybe she did it on purpose and, like, got him all tipped.

Revenge for 1776?

Yeah.

Like, this one's for King George.

I'm just looking up where you can stream Christmas in Paradise.

Oh, it's on Amazon Prime.

Okay.

Oh, and I believe the Roku channel.

I will.

It feels like it would be like a Roku original.

I can't find my pen.

It needs to go on my content plate.

Jaggie, if it's what's meant for you, we'll find you.

My pen.

No, the movie.

I can never find my pen.

That's kind of the problem with you going

analog.

Correct.

Yeah.

You know what?

I think I have to write it on my phone.

Just because it's too important,

unfortunately.

Everyone wants a necklace like mine.

So that's how they got together.

Stay tuned for how they're doing.

I'm still in genuine shock about this.

Me too.

And that's the latest.

And I'd love to hear from Kelsey Grammar.

Yes.

Did he sense this on the chemistry?

Next story.

Love seems to be dead.

Sophie Turner is sparking breakup rumors

with her aristocrat boyfriend, Peregrine, Pellegrino Pearson.

Peregrine.

After nearly two years of dating, she has unfollowed him on Instagram.

She also shared a cryptic post on stories that simply read, tutu pasa, which translates as everything passes.

Now,

while I am devastated, I do feel okay because I really thought, and I can't believe it's been two years.

I thought this was like a rebound type of thing.

Like, I didn't think of it so seriously, but you know what?

She got a nice relationship right after what seemed to be like a tumultuous divorce.

So I feel like some relationships just like are meant to last a season and they heal you and they take you from one place to another.

And that's what Pellegrino was.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I guess that makes sense.

I think they had a lot of fun together.

I loved that like life for her, you know, the aristocratic life.

I hope she met some other eligibles while in that circle and now has found her next boyfriend.

But I just don't think like as she thinks about how she wants to like live out her days, I don't think being Mrs.

Pellegrino, like holed up on the English countryside, like hosting dinner parties is what she wants to be doing.

It was a relationship that had an expiration date, yeah.

Like, cause eventually he'll have to, like, settle down and get boring and you know, tend to his family's estate.

And she doesn't want to

go from that.

I mean, they're just like money pits, right?

And then, like, what you're hosting weddings, like, and you're like a house fruit, like, yeah, no, and like, then you're giving tourists.

No, no, no.

We have a lot of things.

I do feel like she's definitely stepped back.

She stepped back a little bit, like, from being a working actress.

But I think she'll come back.

Joan.

She's still on ad then that's a show and she's joan not rivers in the uk yeah not rivers common misconception just want to say yeah

so maybe like he inherited his family's estate and she was like hell no the roof is leaking i'm out i i do think while you're adding things to your digital list i would add her to our list of eligibles she's 100 already there

You think?

Sophie Turner?

But she's been in a relationship for two years, but we do love to have people who are literally in relationships.

Unless you get married, you don't come off the list.

That's the rule.

And she is, I feel like she's not.

I genuinely hate this list so much.

I know.

And I'm starting a new one.

Okay.

I want to wipe this slate clean.

Fabulous.

Jackie, I'm putting my foot down.

It's the worst list.

It's the most basic, stupid list.

Oh my God.

Now you're speaking so ill of our list.

Claudia, I can't.

Fine, fine.

I feel crazy.

Fine.

Look at me.

Listen.

Look at me listening to you.

I thank you, Coachers Wojers.

Ellen's.

Now I'm going to have to point it out every time.

2.0.

Sophie.

Sophie Turner.

And we'll just add as they come.

That's it.

Add as they come.

Coombs Afresh.

Okay.

Okay.

Are you ready for our fourth story?

Yeah.

It's a little TV news because Royal Payne's reboot is in the work starring Mark Fuhrestein.

And literally, this means the world to two people, Margot Ashray and Olivia Ashray.

I actually like the show.

I know, but when I think of it, I don't think of you.

No, I don't think of me either.

But I think like a secret that I harbor is that I thought it was a really good show.

And like you learned a lot about rare medical conditions.

Oh, I meant to tell you, by the way,

everyone remembers when Jackie had her searchlage surgery, right?

Like,

what was that a year and a half ago?

Two years ago, almost to the day.

There is an episode of Gray's Anatomy.

Like you literally had like one of those conditions because I I just weirdly get served

clips of like random TV shows on TikTok and they were talking about a surclage on Grey's Anatomy.

Wow.

Maybe, or it was like Chicago MD.

One of those.

Like you are literally a house.

What's that show house?

House.

That's you.

That's so funny.

Also, I get people message me this a lot when they're watching the last seasons of Downton Abbey.

Anna.

Remember?

She had a surclage.

Remember, she was like having trouble keeping a pregnancy and then Mary sent her to her doctor and it turned out she just needed the circlage

because she had cervical incompetence.

And so, which is a really fun fact, like that the circlage is in Downtown Abbey.

However, it's historically inaccurate because the circlage wasn't invented until the 50s and Downtown Abbey takes place in the 20s.

Oh, I feel like Julian Fellows is better than that.

Yeah.

And I told Dr.

Frank.

He was like, yikes.

Like when I told him, did you see Downtown Abbey Anna has the Sir Clage?

He was like, they weren't invented.

It's impossible.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, okay.

Sorry to like go fucking fun for everyone.

And so the secret that you harbor is that you like liked Royal Paints.

The secret that I harbor as it pertains to Royal Paints.

It's so funny that we both have like deep, dark secrets, is that like it's a show my entire family, like my sisters, loved.

I've never seen one minute of it.

Claudia, like you should watch it like right now.

I think you would like it.

It's set in the Hamptons.

Yeah, it takes place, though, at that big house, right?

Where everybody gets married.

Ohika Castle.

Ohika Castle.

It's where the blank space music music video is it's like on long island it's very famous i think so i don't feel like that was the vibe really yeah let me see royal pains house

ohika castle yeah shadow pond um

there's like this mansion in long island for anybody who's not familiar it's called ohika castle now locals know it it's like a a venue that you can rent a lot of like swirlies get married there but it's also featured in a lot of famous tv shows blank space music video obviously Royal Payne's.

Most famously, Blank Space Music.

Most famously.

In popular culture.

It was served as partial inspiration for Gatsby's Estate in the Great Gatsby.

That feels right.

Oh, but they didn't film it there.

No, but it was like inspiration in

the castle on Long Island.

So that makes sense.

I'm just going to skip to like things that we know.

Yeah, it's just like this random wedding venue that's oddly relevant in pop culture.

It was used in the music video Cookie by R.

Kelly.

Cool, cool, cool, cool.

Love that.

Used in Liam Payne and Rhea Aura's For You music video.

So it's steeped in American history.

Yeah, Real Houses of New York City Season 12 reunion.

Really?

The first in-person reunion after the pandemic.

COVID?

Wow.

Love that.

A music video for a J-Lo and Maluma song, Pat Tea Plus Lonely.

Wow.

I'm telling you guys.

The castle was featured in a Mr.

Beast video in which the Mr.

Beast crew crew was tasked to stay in a $1 hotel to a $1 million hotel.

Wow.

And

it stood in for a Hungarian castle in the second season of Succession.

So we thought we were in Hungary.

Turns out we were in Long Island.

Long Island.

And now let me ask you something about Royal Pain's reboot.

What the hell is the show about?

Oh, I'm so happy.

He's a doctor.

He's a doctor.

So he's staying at the, he doesn't live in Ohika Castle.

He's in someone's like guest house.

Someone is like, maybe he's the doctor to the person who lives in the house, but the person's like never there.

So he becomes a concierge doctor for rich people in the Hamptons.

They like call him with their ailments.

And so every episode, it's kind of like house where someone has like a mysterious thing going on and he's like the best doctor and he solves it.

But it's always something, you know, like gout, like something random.

Of course, of course.

Undiagnosable except to Dr.

Henry Hank Lawson.

That's Mark.

That's Mark.

And then his little brother is also with him in the Hamptons.

And the little brother is just like wants to party and is like so funny.

And he's like, wants to get down.

And he actually falls in love with like a Hampton swirly, like a socialite, very rich.

Very works out, things work out well for him.

And she's a main cast member, too.

The two of them just like being Hampton swirlies.

I just feel like this is a show that was like moderately successful.

It was a young USA, right?

It was successful.

Like a random channel.

Yeah.

And so it was, it was, it was successful for USA because all they do is play SVU reboots.

like so

it's such a random show to reboot like it had like a a fandom but not like a vocal one or a large one like i just like i'm confused well i'm here for this reboot because i think it's like an easy show to reboot you don't have to like he could still be dr hank yep they could still be out in the hamptons doing their thing where learning about niche mysterious medical conditions that works for me um depending on where i'm at in my my life, like maybe I'll give it a shot.

But I think you should watch the old one.

I think you would like it.

It's totally neutral.

I want to say, while your condition of surclaging is definitely like common fodder, I feel like I'm about to see an episode of like a coccidinia.

Do you know what I mean?

Maybe there is one in Royal Pains.

Like maybe that's how.

Between Royal Pains, House, Grades Anatomy, Chicago MD, like all these medical shows, there is definitely a coccidinia diagnosis.

And if there's not, I think that's something that the coccidinia awareness committee

should be pitching, like, so that there's coccidinia visibility.

100%.

Representation for the community.

Will you try watching Royal Pains or nah?

Like the old one.

I mean, like a TV show funk.

So this is not me not listening to it.

I didn't say, by the way, I didn't say do it.

I asked a question.

Now I'm feeling like so defensive.

I didn't say do it.

I asked a question.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I'm not really in the mood for like a new show, you know?

Okay.

But just to defend my reputation, sure, I'll watch it.

I'll watch the whole thing

by Monday.

Okay.

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Our fifth and final story is about one of your favorite subjects.

Two of your favorite subjects.

Myself?

No.

Shark attacks and influencers.

So scientists are blaming influencers for the rise in shark attacks.

Scientists will blame anyone but sharks for shark attacks.

Continue.

So just when you thought it was safe to go pro back in the water, French scientists have attributed the spike in shark attacks to selfie-taking influencers, encouraging tourists to pet the toothy predators.

Per a jaw,

the puns in this, I can't, per a jaws-dropping study in the journal Frontiers in Conservation.

Contrary to sharks' portrayal as mindless killing machines in movies, researchers argued that many of the so-called attacks were defensive responses to being poked and prodded by online clout seekers.

One of the scientists, the lead researcher, said, I don't encourage, as many influencers do on social networks, people to cling to a shark's dorsal fin or stroke it under the pretext of proving that they are harmless.

He was citing the genre of videos in which content creators film themselves swimming with and even poking the sea beasts.

In one popular Instagram clip, a wildlife photographer is pictured touching the nose of a tiger shark off of Hawaii.

The sharks here feel like family.

The crazy shark

pushed in the caption.

It's funny because these influencers actually have the same goal as the scientists, which is like show that sharks are harmless.

Proving.

Right.

And the sharks are saying, no, bitch, like, stop.

I just feel like it's such an easy blame.

Like, we're always blaming influencers for everything, even though that example that they just cited was not an influencer.

It was a wildlife photographer.

Two very different things, first of all.

Second of all, while there's no doubt that there are absolute morons who like go with cameras, remember the guy from CSTK who was like dragging that shark off his boat.

Like, people are total morons and idiots.

Like, and I think that's probably, you know,

a cause of some shark attacks to...

paint with such a broad brush.

Like, that's not the only reason sharks attack.

Like, sharks also attack because they're beasts of the wild.

Like, why is that so hard for people to say?

I feel like every time there's like a major like study or research thing done on shark attacks, they're like, well, they're only attacking because like we're calling them shark attacks.

Like, maybe,

and it's like, no, it's a shark attack.

It's okay.

Like, how do you think Bethany Hamilton feels reading this?

Like, I just started Googling her because I was like, she was just minding her own goddamn business.

Bethany Moda?

No, Bethany Hamilton.

I feel like most of the shark attacks we hear are just like people swimming at the beach, not people trying to take pictures with sharks or petting them.

And to be clear, when you hear about a shark attack of somebody who was like trying to take a picture and pet their fans, like you don't feel bad for them.

No, I've never even heard such a thing.

I've never heard of it.

No, you feel bad for the Bethany Modas of the world.

Of course.

People going about their business, swimming in shallow waters, surfing.

Like, you know, we all have our districts in the ocean, and they ventured into shallow waters and they took a bite.

I'm just sick of this, like, like, like this rewriting of facts.

Yeah.

Like, imagine going to science school, becoming a scientist and like, this is the work you put out.

Conclusion.

Yeah.

Get a job.

Like you're blaming influencers.

I'm just sick of influencers being blamed for everything.

That's like really crazy.

I'm not, I haven't seen enough evidence that how, what percentage of shark attacks are people trying to get close to sharks.

And to be clear, when I think of a shark attack, I do not think of an instance where like somebody's being an idiot and like provoking a shark and then getting their ass beat.

Like I think of a more Bethany Hamilton, you know?

Of course.

I'm not, I don't consider that a shark attack.

I think of that fucking around and finding out.

Yeah, they found that of the 74 bites recorded during the period of their study, most of which were from smaller and medium-sized sharks, around 5% were likely to have been the result of sharks acting in defense.

So 95%.

So 95% of sharks are.

What you found out is actually the opposite of this headline.

Right.

The science community is disgusting for this.

That's not how it works.

5% is not then

the

result.

Right.

No, the 95% would be the leading headline here.

I'm just trying to call back everything I've learned about

the scientific theory.

No, these people are disgusting.

I don't know what it is.

Like,

it's okay.

Sharks are dangerous predators.

Like, that's okay to say.

Sharks are dangerous predators.

Stay back.

Beware.

Be scared.

1,000%.

Stay alert.

Don't swim with your period.

It's funny because i feel like they're trying to say the same thing we are which is like don't bother sharks

we weren't like only five percent of people were like we're not right but then like how do we prevent like people who didn't bother sharks those shark checks so that's just like an unfortunate risk right a very small risk of going in the ocean yeah there's a reason why we're only citing bethany hamilton right it's not like a common thing

No, but I don't know.

I see videos all the time of like sharks spotted in the Atlantic.

Yeah, I mean,

them being spotted like is not a big deal.

It's not where people are swimming.

You can see them like on the beach from the beach.

Yeah.

Well, it's always like head frontline news in Long Island over the summer.

Like sometimes Long Island is the Atlantic is very sharky.

That, yeah, the Atlantic is like wild.

Let's dive into our final segment of the week, Queenie and Weenie of the Week.

Every Friday, Jackie and I like to wrap up the week in a little bow, give out two awards, Queenie of the Week and Weenie of the Week.

It's exactly like it sounds.

Who acted like a queenie this week and who acted like a major weenie this week?

It's a seven-day title.

It's not that serious.

If you find yourself being queenie of the week one week, don't get too excited because you might be weenie the next.

Let's dive in.

What would you like to start with, Queenie?

We always start with Queenie.

I know,

and we always start it with me asking, and then we always start it with you telling me that we start with Queenie every week.

Okay, so my Queenie of the Week is one Lexi Wood.

I thought it was a great week to be Lexi.

I had been championing her on Summerhouse, and it was nice to see the narrative finally flip so quickly.

I love that.

Yeah.

She's also handled herself with so much elegance.

Like on on the show, like she could have been like a little nastier to some of the girls.

And I think that she doesn't want to threaten like having beef with them.

So I think she's been very classy.

All the press she's been doing, I watched her on a podcast.

She's very elegance.

And so she's a mature queen.

And I think she's been a great addition.

And this week was great for her.

Agreed.

My queenie of the week was a matter we hadn't discussed yet just because it hasn't come up yet.

But Stasi Shorter is my queenie of the week because Vanderpump Villa season two premiered.

She's on the show, which we had reported she was doing Vanderpump Villa.

Like she's back on TV with Lisa Vanderpump.

She's doing all this press, like, by Lisa's side as Lisa's number two.

And, like,

the way this girl was

Phoenix rising from the ashes.

I've never seen someone go from, like, come back, come back in a way like this, like bigger than she was before.

And people get canceled all the time, but there are varying degrees.

And, like, she had one of the worst cancellations of all time.

And, like, bit by bit, through her own grit, no one did anything for her.

No one, through her book, through her podcast, like, she is back she's on gma like she i tell you she's gonna be on the cover of vote like this woman is a queenie i'm gonna watch her in van der pump villa at some time and it just goes to show it's because people love her it's because she's so fantastic like even her fan like you can't keep a good gal down you know like her fans never went away like because she is just like that interesting and that funny and that cool.

And I'm so happy for her because she had like, she's had a lot of success in the last few years with her podcast and her book, but that was all like things she did for herself by herself.

But to now like be back in the mainstream, back on TV, back on all the morning shows and every

mainstream bit of press that you could do, it's a feat.

Agreed.

I like that.

Queenie.

My weenie of the week actually goes to two swirlies.

They go by the names Susan O'Malley and Barbara Lippert.

So I guess it's like a posthumous.

Weenie of the week because I don't know if at the time

when we reported on the The Hollywood reporter canceling the Golden Bachelor, I don't think Queenie and Weenie of the Week was a segment we had created yet.

So the fact that they never got to be Weenie of the Week just seems unfair.

And I'm grateful that this week was the reminder that we all needed that two women named Susan O'Malley and Barbara Lippert.

Oh, Suzanne O'Malley and Barbara Lippert

actually tried to cancel the Golden Bachelor.

Like that's something that really happened.

We cannot forget.

And we must kind of commemorate this moment with a Weenie of the Week award.

I think that's really beautiful.

My weenie of the week was going to be the half of Jesse Solomon.

That is awful.

One half.

One half of Jesse Solomon.

Like the right side or the left side?

I would say it's definitely like left brain that is the weenie that is exerting weeding behavior on behalf of Jesse Solomon, considering we didn't see the other half of like menshi Jesse Solomon this week.

Like he had a full, only the left side was taken

was on the episode.

We didn't see the right side.

It's a weenie for me.

I agree.

agree, I like that.

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