Wood v. Solomon: Thursday, April 24th, 2025

I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Thursday.
Hope everybody's having a pargy-licious, definicious, and latter half of the week. Congrats.
Like we're, we're doing the damn thing. We're on our way.
Sloping into the weekend. I'm on my way.
Where is Mason Ramsey? He's so booked and I know like if you don't follow him you probably don't hear about him but in Mason's world like he's doing big things and he seems really fulfilled and happy and like it's all happening I forgot that I asked a rhetorical question to the Mason Ramsey encyclopedia it's all happening in a way. You know, it's so important that when we're raising the youth in the spotlight that they

do it in a healthy way. And Mason, I think, is one of the better examples.
So if you like

wake up in the middle of night, like whatever happened to the yodel kid, he's doing just no

just no rest easy. He's thriving.
He's making music. He's performing to fans,

but not in a way that it's unhealthy. OK's your mason ramsey update for the year because that's all he's giving us and that's good that's a sign of that's a good sign yeah well welcome back to the toast happy thursday hope everybody's having a great day thus far it's going to be a great day it's beautiful out in new york city i found a t-shirt that fits, a new one to add to my rotation.
It's Ben's. It's a double XL.
Am I allowed to comment on it? Permission to comment? Let's just see. You know, things, your emotions are so unregulated when you're pregnant.
Like, let's see if it pisses me off. Let's hear.
Like, you're wearing to yourself. Oh, yeah.
And there's a picture of myself on the shirt, which always helps. It's not shirt no it's og toast merch it's from my it's it's n what tour was that n log yeah it's not even toast merch i don't get a cut of it that's n log it's actually i think you do like the way we had set it up i think you did get a cut of the shirt not a big deal no i'm not upset i'm not upset like parse it out i.
I'm not still thinking about it. Okay, everyone head over to M-Log.
Yeah, no, this shirt was kind of like a bestseller. There has been crazy demand for me to bring it back.
Zach loves that shirt. Ben loves this shirt.
I love that shirt. I wore it when you performed at MSG with like.
Hannah Burner wears this shirt every time she comes on the toast. It's like so supportive of her.
It's so respectful. No, the first time she did it, I said, oh, she knows the way to my heart.
Like the way to my heart. This is what Ben always says.
Like when we're like evaluating friendships, he's like, no, I'm not really into those people. I'm like, really? I love them.
He's like, yeah, they're always up your ass. If you want, like the way, if you were to look up MapQuest, how to get to Claudia's heart, it would be directly through my ass.
It's really true. You just have to be up my ass.

Ask me questions about my job.

I'm so interesting.

There was one person that I think we all thought that we liked for a long time.

Because one time, she was nice to us and very inquisitive about us.

Text me who we're talking about.

And I think you're going to agree.

And is this somebody the listeners would know?

Or is it a friend of ours?

I mean, maybe like 5% of them, but yeah. Let's see.
Oh, okay. She never would have come to mind for me.
So you thought that. I actually thought that I liked her too because the time that I met her, like she was so up my butt.
Like it really goes a long way. But then I was like, maybe that's just a strategy.
Well, some people I think don um don't like wouldn't like that you know somebody who's asking them a million questions about their job their life for me personally like I love to talk about myself you're giving me a platform oh and you think my answers are funny and interesting like you're invited to every like event I'm ever throwing for the rest of my life yeah but then it's on you do you know who does that it's on you to parse out if it's genuine because anybody can do that and they know that it's going to mean a lot to you so the person i'm texting you oh no he's nice yeah no no like but that's why like i love him because he has that but he's not doing that but i think it's in a really genuine way he's not doing it so that you like him no he thinks way, you guys wouldn't know these people, so it's not interesting to you. But like when I say that if you want to be my friend, just like crawl up my butt.
Like I'm giving you a roadmap. Yeah, it's true.
But now like you have to be discerning, Claudia. Like that's on you to not let like be like.
Yeah, so I have to use my gut. Users, userous people.
Totally. What's always so weird to me is the word usery.
It always trips me up. I me up actually never used it i didn't even know it was a word until right now spelled so weird u-s-e-r-y us-e-r-y us-e-r-y us-e-r-y us-e-r-y every time i see it i'm like us-e-r-y jackie us-e-r-y are you seeing it so frequently it trips me up it's tripped me up a couple times in my life a couple of times it's like that well now now you got me thinking Jackie you took the words right out of my mouth it's even us three I don't think it's New York one when we were in high school it was kind of like a major shift that happened in New York City all the yellow cabs got TVs in the back of the like now if you get in every single single cab.
In the backseat of the taxi. In the backseat of the cab, there's like a little screen.
It plays like local news, highlights different restaurants. NBC first look.
Commercial Sandy Canyon with the Eyewitness News movie Minute. But there was a time before, I'm really aging us, but like before, like probably maybe the 10th grade, you were just sitting in the cab.
So when they rolled out these televisions,

it was nationwide news.

Everyone was talking about these TVs.

We thought it was so high tech

like we were living in the future.

And one of the local correspondents

who got really famous

just because he was in every taxi TV

talking about random things

was this handsome young fellow.

He's still on it named David Ushery.

Yeah, no relation to us.

No relation, very handsome, young black guy.

And people would say like,

I'm like close it's Ushry and Ushry but we're definitely connected somewhere down the line 1000% do you also remember what that same time when they were getting tvs they also had this initiative flowers flowers on the hood of the taxis they had this like i don't know what it was probably like an art um yeah it was like um they do that sometimes like the park avenue conservatory they'll work with different artists flowers on park avenue like everyone has their beat but for some reason the tlc was to paint the taxis with like beautiful flowers on the hood and like all the front hood and it like took time at the beginning it's like you would see one like oh I got a flower taxi and then over the course of a few months like every yellow taxi in New York City had a huge flower painted on the hood every two no no it was like a mural like a medley of flowers yeah yeah I every two years look up a picture of those. Because to me, they were like the golden age of New York.

And sorry, like Michael Bloomberg thinks he did that.

Like what was that?

I don't know.

Like who paid for it?

Who painted it?

I don't know.

Why?

Was it just to beautify the city?

I feel like if you watch. It was a beautification committee thing.

If you watch seasons of Gossip Girl from that time, you'll definitely see flower taxis.

But I would love to know. That was like such an era.
It was like the fashions night out era do you remember fashions night out do i remember just fashions night out remember us remember us fashion side out was like this one night a year no flower taxis were part of a series of public art projects that the massies have done with children in their portraits of hope project since its founding who heard you do, do it again. Do it again.
Do a flip. Oh my God, these taxis, Claudia.
No, I know. I've recently looked up a photo of them.
Like they're transported me back to such a special time in my life. Yeah.
Wow. That's really something.
Ed and Bernie Massey. I don't know them, but thanks.
And fashion's night out. Like if you were there, you were there.
It was this one night a year where all the major stores whether it was like designer boutiques department stores was like every store in the city would open up at stores after hours like after seven o'clock it happened for like three years it was a big failure it was not it i feel like it was like five years maybe maybe five but it was a failure but it was such a great lovely like idyllic concept right all these stores would open up after hours and host um like little cocktail parties for people who were like into fashion you could be we were people we were like seniors in high school like just randos walking in it was so nice it was like kind of getting to be an influencer for a day try being an influencer for a day try and then they would. Yeah, of course.
If fashion night out was still on, like you'd be booked and busy. 1000%.
And they would have like little activations. You would get like your photo taken.
Like you were a nobody and it just made you feel special. I don't know how the stores made money or anything, but it was a really cute concept.
Fair awareness. Yeah.
I think now like humanity, I can't see it going well. Like humanity.
It'd be so much robbery. Like, yeah, it would, like somebody would die every fashion sign out.
So it's probably not worth it. But at the time it was fun.
No, and it's like they canceled it before it even got, like, it didn't go poor. Like no one got robbed or anything, but it was just like not a major success.
So they stopped doing it. Like imagine doing it in this climate.
Something terrible would have happened to eventually end it.

Yeah, but I just think it was a waste of time and money.

No, I have such fond memories.

And we have pictures of our mom literally taking pictures of us.

Night going to fashion sign up. No, we were so excited, you guys.

It was so cute.

It was such a sweet little thing that these nice big stores did for us.

We can't have nice things anymore.

Our first stop was always... Bendel bendel's rip those are the you have to find those pictures that mom's talking about like with our touch do you know i'm talking about like by the elevator of our apartment that's when the city lost its touch when bendel's went out agreed that is like they say like a recession indicator like things are about to get really bad bendel's henry bendel's's closing down, tough times.
Things were never the same. So true.
I also feel that way about California Pizza Kitchen. Oh yeah, the culinary cuisine in New York was never the same.
And now also- The culinary scene. The culinary scene.
There was two, they're both gone. The first one was a loss for the opportunity.
No, the first one was lost. The second one was kind of like generic.
The first one was like a family-friendly place, and it was attached to the Dillon's candy bar when that went out also. Big recession indicator.
I actually walked past it the other day. You know what they're putting there? And if this doesn't say it all.
Dwayne Reed. Blinds to go.
Yikes. Blinds to go.
And then I would also say that didn't a hillstone go out recently yes hilltown hillstone 54th and park and if the other one goes out which i don't know why it ever would it's the busiest place in the city and you can't even get a table if they ever go out it's because i burned it down because i think their rules are so annoying about like getting a table and like it shouldn't be that hard to get a reservation if it ever goes out of business because i set fire to the hillstone what's crazy about hillstone is like no matter who you are you have no pull like you could call your agents your publicist no one can get a table I know easier than a person could get a table calling up yep no it's so like communist over there there's no oligarchy I hate it so I am literally gonna burn it down I understand but please don't because it's so tasty. But I do think like the success of the city is hinging on that one hillstone still being in business.
And if that goes. It's a lot of pressure.
Down goes the city. Did you watch Summer House last night? Of course I did.
We have a TV recap today. We've got stories.
Our fifth and final story will lead into the TV recap because it's Paige on Watch What Happens so that's like oh great one to the other and i also don't want to make the episode go too long because i know how my girl gets thank you i also i'm excited later today i'm gonna get facial i'm just like treating myself i don't know i don't know why i thought facials were things like pregnant people couldn't participate in i never bothered to look into it i just figured like you couldn't do it well you probably can't do some of the fun stuff like serious chemicals, anything actually like effective. But I could do hydrofacial, right? The zoom off the top.
Yeah, the zoom off the top. Yeah, I think so.
I don't see that. And they know I'm pregnant.
So like. Yeah.
And I'm sure if you can't, like someone will let you know in the comments today. Maybe don't.
Maybe I'll find a hydrofacial once in 19 and I just did not feel safe. Yeah, no, maybe tell me later.
I'm just like, whatever, you know. Really? You wouldn't have done it before? How bad can it be? Dr.
Fox said, obviously I know I'm not going to do any lasers or whatever. Dr.
Fox said there's really nothing I could put on my face that would hurt the baby. Retinal? Well, yeah, sure.
You should just mess with him. Botox? No, meant like skin hair wise yeah topically correct topic great word um great word when we used to do word of the day did we really didn't even though that's yeah we did we did for like not in the real way's, like, something that we should so obviously do, but we never have in a real way.
And I don't want to. This is a great one.
This is a great one. Can Miriam Webster's word of the day, this is a word I've definitely heard of, but, like, I have no idea what it means.
And I kind of want to start using it. Ready? Ostensible.
Do you know what it means? No, but ostensibly would mean presumably.

So seeming or said to be true or real, but possibly not true.

Wait, presumably.

So how would you use it in a sentence?

Like, it's ostensible that you could get a hydrafacial during pregnancy.

How do I do?

It's kind of good.

What? It's kind of good. Oh, thanks.
i didn't know if you said the opposite of that okay i kind of crushed plausible plausible that's like a synonym yeah i crushed word of the day you did w-a-t-d i think the reason why we don't do like an official word of the day and why it's never appealed to us is that in our own way, we always have a word of the day. So sure.
We are Miriam Webster. In an organic way.
And it's really crazy that it's Miriam. Today's word of the day like would have been us three.
Yeah. Yeah.
Don't you think it's like so weird that her name is Miriam? As opposed to Miriam? Like just change it. But is that a person's first and last name?

I don't think so. Isn't there a dash in between? There is.
I don't know what it means. Maybe it's

two people. Merriam and Webster.
Like Dwayne Reed. Like Salino and Barnes.
Actually you know

they're just Salino now. I know.
Rip. They're actually Salino and Salino.
I think he brought

his son into the practice. Rip King.
Rip. I don't think he died.
I think they split and then he died. Oh, I think you're right.
Well, let's dive in because we kind of have a lot to do today. You're telling me coach.
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Thank you, Dirty. Oh, my God.
It's seriously like running a marathon. I can't breathe.
I understand. Thank you for your service.
your service to those who stuck with me thank you our first story is about really great news that we have been eagerly awaiting to hear which is that teddy mellencamp is giving an exciting update on her stage four cancer battle after revealing the 50 50 odds so she gave an exciting update on her cancer battle she said i just finished with all my scans and my tumors have significantly shrunk, which doctors believe means that this treatment all will work and that I will be back to myself and feeling good. She further shared that she has two more sessions of immunotherapy and then hopefully she'll be done and cancer free.
She said, I'm going to keep a positive outlook because that's the way my doctor just spoke to me. He's like, you did this, you got this.
She said, I have six more weeks of immunotherapy and doctors believe I will be all healed if everything stays the course wow wow I guess like seeing how you react to a treatment like it either can be very good or very bad or not working I'm so happy for her like for real so happy for her I mean the last update that we had was really sad dark really dark and I had been seeing headlines she was like joking about it but she was talking about how her dad was like planning her burial spot um so just like really really sad stuff and so to have a happy update is really fantastic I agree um I think about her a lot you know I think a lot of it's kind of like the craziest thing she wasn't your fave Beverly Hills. Maybe you didn't even watch Beverly Hills, but you're familiar with her.

I think her story has just like, and she's a young mom.

Maybe you're a John Cougar Mellencamp stan.

Yeah, like she has young kids.

She's a young, like it's just a very shocking story.

So I think it's like touched a lot of people.

And I think a lot of people are just like wishing her the best and praying for her.

So this is some good news.

Yeah, I'm really happy for her.

Yeah, same.

Are you okay?

Yeah.

Do you know when like your baby kicks and like your whole body shakes?

Where's the kick?

Oh, they're everywhere.

I don't even know where he is these days.

I'm not even trying to like understand what position he's in.

Like I'll find out at my next doctor's appointment.

I feel like, I don't know that I would feel like my whole body shake,

but I remember like so many times like I just had a foot in my rib.

Well, yeah, because your baby was in a normal position.

I haven't experienced that.

I would just be holding a foot all the time.

Like and that's where I would kick.

No, no.

I because I like rest my hands on my when I'm like on my phone, I rest my hands on my belly.

Sometimes I'm going to kick like my phone goes flying.

Like that's really crazy.

That's so funny.

That's what I just felt like, you know, I could feel like I could see my stomach moving.

Like maybe I'm just like feeling my own.

Did you guys see it on camera? Well, you probably could see your stomach moving. But I'm wearing like a baggy shirt.
Like I'm telling you, my whole body moved. Oh, maybe it was though.
Also, I've been seeing some rumors like about me. Cher, I love rumors about you.
Just some complaints. Like I haven't really shown my bump a lot on the toast and like maybe I'm faking it.
You're lying. I haven't even seen a whisper of that.
No, nobody accused me of faking it.

You wish they would.

No, but people are like,

Turdy, show your butt more.

Like, no.

Okay, no.

I haven't even seen people say that.

There you go.

Okay.

I haven't even seen people say that, Claudia.

I have.

Like, everybody's obsessed.

They want to see me naked.

Like, they want to see my nude maternity shoot that I did.

Well, have you been, like, sending naked pictures in the chat? I have. Well, really changed like a lot in the last like week or two and it changes every week you've been sending nude photos and i said and so you obviously like have a little predilection for it at the moment go take maternity pictures no i really can't but i do i feel like i need to be honest with you you edited it yeah I don't care the photos I sent in our family chat just like I wanted to you know show everyone I don't ever edit my stomach that feels like really fucked up but like my legs oh my god yeah we had and I was in the sunlight too so they were looking I know I thought it was like um you were looking what very cellulite and I had to take care of it.
So I don't know. Is that all you edited it?

Oh, and my chin.

What about, not like an arm?

Okay, I did like,

the thing is,

I feel like my arm looks good

in the photo.

And I did a little bit,

but I think like admitting it,

then you think my arm is fake.

Like that actually,

that's pretty much,

pretty much what my arm.

Honestly, probably the difference

would only be visible to you.

I would say the biggest difference is my chin. I had like a real hanging turkey neck.
Okay. I'm on my way.
So much goes down the chat. Like I literally can't even find you.
And for some reason when you go to photos and images like not everything. Okay, what is that? What the hell is that? Like you go to a group chat and you can go to all the data and just sort by all the photos that have been posted and half of them aren't there.
Yeah. More than half.
What the hell is that like you go to a group chat and you can go to all the data and they just sort by all the photos that have been posted and half of them aren't there yeah more than half what the hell is that i do not know but i can't find it's so fucking annoying and i have work to do so i can't even go look for the nude photo that i should have said okay it wasn't nude by the way i was wearing like my maternity undies and a big nursing bra but but like when you're a person who never takes a nude a a picture of your bare skin, that's a nude photo.

Go take maternity pictures like just for you.

It's just.

No, no, no, no.

Like, no, no.

But you love it.

No.

You will love it.

No.

And Claudia, they edit you like a rock star.

I feel like I've officially gotten like a little bit of pregnancy face.

So if I were to have done photos, I would have done them before that. I should.
I didn't act quick enough. No, I disagree.
Next excuse. We'll get them next time.
We'll get them next time. I'll tell you my thoughts.
Oh, also next excuse. Like, I'm tired.
Well, that one. I remember I was so.
It was the most exhausting thing. You have to like stand on your tippy toes too.
And they're like, they know what to tell you how to pose, but it's really strenuous.

Like you're using all your muscles.

Oh my God.

I came home at a girl.

She's been passed out.

Yeah.

I honestly,

like I can't sign up for something like that.

One of my better naps.

One of like my goal,

I wake up every day and I say,

I'm going to do the toast.

I'm going to slay the house down.

And that's it.

Like I,

that's the one thing I need to accomplish every day.

A photo shoot. I would die.
I understand. Modeling is hard.
Yeah. And as, you know, kind of seasoned models in the industry, we obviously know that.
Are you ready for our next story? Which was a turdies choice, choice, choice. It's a turdies choice.
Yeah. I feel like I really need to make fun of George Clooney, like, a lot.
And I haven't had the opportunity. And he sort of brought me right on a silver platter.
Okay, well, George Clooney is making an unbelievable claim about his marriage to wife Amal. George declared that marriage is easy and that he and wife Amal still have never fought after a decade together.
So two years after telling Gayle King that communication in his marriage to Amal was the easiest thing by far and that they'd never had an argument, he doubled down on the claim on a Monday interview of CBS Mornings. He said, I remember we were here with you once before and I remember we said we'd never had an argument.
I feel so extraordinarily lucky to have met this incredible woman and I feel as if I hit the jackpot. There isn't a day that goes by where I don't think I'm the luckiest man in the world.
So it's great. No, I know people like read this and are like, oh, she's so lucky.
Oh, I could vomit. Like, let me tell you, okay? First of all, I actually don't think that he's lying.
Like, I don't think that him and Amal have actually ever had a fight. And I think that's something he really needs to stop telling people because you're not married.
Like you have a roommate. It speaks to a lack of marriage.
Yes, like either. And I know everybody jokes like you always jump to inclusion like you're gay or she's a lesbian because like someone who you're actually in love with intimate building a life.
They have kids, right? Yeah. You're telling me you don't fight? Especially when the kids come.
I'm sorry, that's just a lie. Oh no, I'm sorry.
I don't think it's a lie. I don't think it's a lie because I don't think he's lying because he's now said it twice.
He just lives in a different house. But just shut up.
Has a different family. Yeah.
You've abandoned your family, clearly, because like if even in the world's most amazing marriage, you're supposed to fight. So the fact that you're over here, that's like admitting that you're not married.
I wonder what Jay Shetty thinks about this. He would never say.
I know. He would never say, but Jay Shetty came to mind.
And I also wanted to talk about this because I don't know if you've seen George Clooney, more specifically his hair recently. I did, unfortunately, against my will.
He ran some like black tar through it and it's like slick and gray. I mean, excuse me, and black.
And obviously like he's the OG silver fox. And so it was really jarring to see.
And I think we need to make fun of him more. Like why would he do that? He like gets a pass.
The two of them think they're like dignitaries and they're like above being clowned on. But like he's just an actor.
No, no. And your hair is horrible, sir.
Do something about it. Like I couldn't believe what I saw.
That was him doing something about it. It's so crazy, though, because men get such a pass, right? Like, George Clooney is the most popular, likable he's ever been, and he's the oldest he's ever been.
Like, he's the prime example of, like, an aging man in Hollywood who only gets more attractive, you know? And you're biting the hand that feeds you. You want to look younger you look silly yeah you look like clowns yeah i'm kind of like i never thought much about it i'm a george clooney hater now like yeah i mean i i've been i've never was obsessed like i think i thought like the idea of the two of them was like really nice it was like finally but justice for stacy keebler interesting just actually okay i'm so glad you brought that up no justice for Stacey Keebler.
No, in the end, like, she dodged a bullet, of course. Oh, did she

dodge a bullet? And she's so happy now.

It's like Leo and Cami Marone. Like,

if he marries one day, I'll say justice for Cami Marone,

but I'm sure, like, it's a miserable life,

you know? Yes, yes. Like,

we see it as an outsider. Like, Stacey

Keebler put in all the work. She made him

who he was. And she was a perfectly, like,

good, age-appropriate-ish girl for him. Like like there was literally no fucking reason that he didn't marry her breaks up with her and marries an ex-girl like it was so wrong but she she comes across my social media or like my desk every now and then so happy she has like multiple kids she's a really hot husband she's fine but it's wrong yeah so um just to say like I've never been the biggest George Clooney fan but like yes I'm in my hater era now now everything he like says does what they do it's not for me so I was shocked that like you wanted to talk about them yeah because I thought of it as an opportunity to like be negative on my platform um and she couldn't be an example to others speaking of being negative and um having unpopular opinions we're doing a patreon later today called unpopular opinions hot takes in pop culture where people are submitting their hot takes and we're going to share some some of our own even though like we we never shy away this would major shout out to the bffs pod because we totally stole the idea from them oh yeah but we've done it before but then i saw that have we yeah we have and it was fun and then i saw they did i was like oh club we should do this again it was so fun so i was going through the submissions this morning and like it's gonna be really hard not to be so mean people are like like your hot take is your natural inclination is to be mean right of course unless there's someone that everybody hates and you love well classic yeah yeah but most it, it's everybody loves and you hate.
I feel like most of it. I remember from last time it's about Beyonce.
Is that? No, I saw one about Beyonce, but she was not a popular submission. I don't want to do the same episode again.
So good. I'm glad people's takes are changing.
But yeah, I would say like, I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion, but like these two. I think it is a pop culture hot take.
Like I don't think that they're goals. I don't find him like attractive.
I like actually like really don't like him. And to me, I don't look at them and be like, I'm charging him off.
Like I don't fucking care. Okay.
No, like why don't you go back to your separate dwellings and live your fake lives. And like it's so easy to make your life look perfect when you do one public event every year, like Venice Film Festival like please have a reality show and then I'll be impressed yeah well actually speaking of a new reality show that's actually a great segue Jimmy Kimmel is producing a new Hulu docuseries starring model sisters Brooks Nader and her Jimmy Kimmel Jimmy Kimmel is producing sure and Claudia from Variety's lips to your ears Jimmy Kimmel? Jimmy Kimmel is producing...
Are you sure? Claudia, from Variety's lips to your ears, Jimmy Kimmel is producing a new Hulu docuseries starring model sisters Brooks Nader and her three sisters who look like her named Grace Ann, Mary Holland, and Sarah Jane Nader. The show is going to be called Love Thy Nader and it will premiere on both the streamer Hulu and the cable network Freeform later this summer.
So it's already been filmed. The show is a coming of age docuseries that stars the Nader sisters who left their humble beginnings in the Louisiana Bayou for the glamour and grind of New York City.
So I want to say two things. One, I think Hulu's actually doing an amazing job

in the unscripted area. Like, I think they're

killing it. Sex Lives of Mormon.

Sex Lives of Mormon Wives. What's it called?

Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.

Vanderpump Villa is

out today. I've heard it's actually amazing.

Kardashians. So this,

I feel like they really have their finger on the pulse.

And I have a,

I'd love to see a sister's reality show.

I think,

you know,

everybody's always chasing the high of the Kardashians,

right?

Like let's,

who are the next Kardashians?

The Colpo sisters.

Like,

I feel like everybody does it.

Having said that,

we,

I have heard about this show because they have been spotted with cameras,

like over the course of the last year.

And it's always on Dumois.

And I feel like there has been like a small,

but mighty effort to like get the Nader sisters to be famous. And it's like not taking.
Having said that, following Brooks's journey, like with Gleb and whatever and her TikTok, like she will stop at nothing to be famous. Like she's actually really motivated.
And I think like if anyone can get it done, I think she's got what it takes. It's a good quality to be motivated.
And I agree that this is not a bad idea. I think at the end of the day, it will come down to like the personality of the sisters.
If they connect with people, if they resonate with people, if people. And if they open up, like I think a lot of people don't realize like she was married to somebody like a billionaire.
And like there's a lot of like interpersonal drama that it doesn't make it on their Instagram, but they're actually deeply interesting if you know stuff about them. So I think they'll open up.
She was dating her Dancing with the Stars pro. Was it Gleb or Alan? Gleb, the one who Lisa Vanderpump fainted on.
Gleb. She was dating Gleb up until like yesterday.
And so I think she like opened up about the last year of her relationship with Gleb. Like, I don't care.
Oh, I don't care. No, I don't care at all.
Especially like they were filming were filming in the last year she was dating Gleb, like, and I'm sure she'll be open about dating. Yeah, by the way, Gleb's a part of the show.
I'm sure she'll be open about dating Gleb. That's not what I mean open-wise.
I think so. No, no, no.
I think they will leave it all on the show. Like, this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.
If they want to be the next Kardashians, they don't seem shy. Like, let's do it.
Like you said, they're motivated. I think they understand the assignment.
It's just. Yeah, and what it takes.
The question is, will we care? I know, and that's the thing. Like, even with all the Gleb drama, like, yeah, they keep trying.
There's like, I don't know, not an industry plant vibe, but like there's like a machine trying to like get the Nader sisters to be a thing. And like, I feel like people don't care.
Yeah, but I, maybe in a formatted reality show format package for caring, I will. I will totally give this a shot.
I love four sisters. I mean, could there be anything more relatable? They're all gorgeous.
Yeah, they're all like models. Hulu does a nice job.
It has all the making. So like.
It does. I think this is a great idea.
And they either have it or they don't. And that's that.
And to be clear, while like the Dancing with the Stars stuff like is a pop culture blind spot for me, like I literally don't care. But like there are people who seriously wait outside for the tour, like for days to get seats in the front row.
Like there is a large constituency of people who like deeply, deeply care about the pros, the relationships between the stars, the tour. And so this might be for them.
Definitely. But they're going to need more.
They're going to need people like the pop culture. Swirlies.
Yeah, Swirlies. People like us.
And you know what? This is like so up my alley. I will watch.
I will give this show a shot for sure. But like, I need to like it.
Actually, if I like it. It reminds me a little bit of the culpos actually if i like it it'll probably get canceled so maybe you shouldn't like it so maybe it's better if it doesn't if i don't like it yeah maybe oh things are not looking good for the pauls then oh yeah although i do think the pauls are a little bit out of your cancellation orbit it's true it's true they're like too big to flop oh speaking of flops no and it's like i'm not the only one like propping them up like no yeah you're not unique they don't need me speaking of flops katie perry's lifetime store opened in mexico city last night um i've been seeing it all over my tiktok because like they know i'm like one of four people who care it looks so fucking crazy like and one thing about katie and i think we've said this all along is like she really doesn't know who she is right as an artist and like you forget that like this is a woman how old is she she's in her 40s she's a mother like i i feel like we're always saying like she would just like lean into the real katie because this persona she puts on i was watching this like entertainment tonight interview she did about like the intergalactica the whole theme is like alien space lifetime i don't fucking know and she's like fighting like a cretin with a lightsaber on stage it's so stupid like i just felt really silly watching it and it makes me so sad because like she's got the hits she's actually a really talented vocalist so like that's really all you need for a tour you know you don't need to be like the best most amazing deepest songwriter and she's like actively she can't get out of her own way it's true what is she doing i don't need to be like the best, most, amazing, deepest songwriter.
And she's like actively, she can't get out of her own way. It's true.
What is she doing? I don't know. I wonder what the thought process is.
I do think like there's something to be said about like be, you know, not be putting your whole self into your on stage persona. Having a persona.
Having a persona is a good thing where it's like you put the mask on and you take the mask off. If it's a good persona.
like a bleeding heart bleeding out stage yeah and nobody wants that like keep it together i agree but like the messaging needs to be like more like there are so many the persona needs to be good and cohesive there's so many good ways to do it jackie you have to see some of these clips like it was seriously i saw and then i also saw she's like dancing saw she's, like, dancing with astronauts. And then she, like, said, has anyone ever, like.
She has, like, a big bird that flies through the stadium. Like, she's just doing so much.
Yeah. I don't know.
I don't know. I think you have to go see it.
Of course I'm going to see it. Are you ready for our fourth story? Mm-hmm.
Some more TV news. has been announced and he is seriously eligible okay is he rich the new golden bachelor is mel owens he's a former nfl player he was the ninth overall pick in the 1981 draft by the rams and he now works is a lawyer in Orange County.
Oh, cute. Okay, let's see.
Cute, right? Oh, Mel

Owens like ask Ben if he knows him he definitely doesn't I'm not even gonna bother Ben doesn't even watch football let alone my dad from the 80s Gary Jerry what's his name Gary I think the original he is still like. I'm sorry.
Mel doesn't hold a candle to Gary. Oh, yeah.
Gary is the baddest to ever do it. But I think Gary is sick, Claudia.
Yeah. And he got canceled.
Remember when they tried to cancel Gary? Like that was seriously fucking crazy. What was it? The Hollywood Reporter did like a big expose on The Golden Bachelor golden bachelor in 1972 his wife had a cold and he left her yeah he has an incurable cancer diagnosis gary oh my god very sad okay well i bet his life like was amazing and look how it like at the tail end of it he just became famous like i know i know when they tried to cancel gary that was a low point oh my god when they tried to cancel gary that was seriously it's a parody like it's something that snl would write a sketch sketch about and then that actually happened yeah and it was like not even crazy stuff no it was like okay one time no it was about his marriage right because the whole thing was that like on show with his wife died and like it was the worst thing that ever happened to me.
He's like a widow looking for love. And it was like, yeah, well, like he started dating someone like three months after his wife died and he's a bad guy.
Who gives a fuck? Oh, and that he lied about his businesses. Remember that he was like a custodian or something? Yeah, there was something about a hot tub.
So never mentioned are his years of post retirementretirement work, like installing hot tubs. Yeah, they were like clowning on him because they made it seem like he was like a big fancy rich business owner.
And I guess at one point, like he worked as like a fry cook in a McDonald's. And they were like, well, he's not an entrepreneur.
So it was so crazy. I hope the person that wrote that article like it feels deep shame.
You mean? There's two people. Say her name.
You mean Susan O'Malley and Barbara Lippert? I mean exactly Susan O'Malley and Barbara Lippert. Say their names.
The Golden Bachelors Not So Golden Past? Literally disgraceful journalism. Like, I don't know if I'll ever get over it.
Sorry, it's Suzanne. Wait, also, it's the only thing she's ever written for The Hollywood Reporter.
Oh, I smell a rat. Claudia and Barb.
What did she do? She's only written two things. What? What? They just hire these staff writers? So Barbara is a media critic and writer.
She reviewed the golden bachelor for next tribe.com so she may be a freelance writer and her and suzanne put this together and they picked it up pitched it to hollywood reporter yeah yeah okay okay my god i mean it must have been a slow news day for the hollywood reporter wow i'm so glad we're going back here because like we actually need to set an annual reminder like we can never forget that that happened annual reminder of what they tried to do to gary and mason ramsey is doing well okay we'll check in april 24th of every year so speaking of mel owens being the ninth overall draft pick the draft is tonight oh is it so is the nick game so if you're looking for me tonight i'm really busy being an active participant so is the new episode Paul American so shit and and I have to start the red heads book

what game so if you're looking for me tonight I'm really busy being an active participant so is the new episode of Paul American so shit and for TV and I have to start the redheads book well how are we going to do it all Jackie that's what we do I need screeners for Paul American but I also just saw that Jake Paul bought like a 40 million dollar house in Georgia you're kidding me I'm so jealous let me say but like of course it was listed for I don't know what he paid. And they said it's like for his business.
Like they don't think he plans to live there. Yeah.
It's an estate. Yeah.
Well, at that amount, you would hope so. At that price.
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You're welcome. Our fifth and final story, Paige Asorbo is dismantling her, quote, liar ex Craig's Southern Charm reunion claims on Watch What Happens Live.
Okay. I just want to say, I feel like that headline's inflammatory.
Why? Because I watched pretty much all, I didn't watch the episode, I watched all the relevant clips, right? Of all the moments that I've made. And I actually felt like, while her and Craig are obviously not getting back together anytime soon and they don't like each other, I felt like she was not mad or vindictive in the episode at all.
I felt like she kind of seemed healed. And while she had to answer all these questions because because it's like a year's worth of drama, she didn't feel like angry or mad.
Like even the Madison LaCroix thing, which I found to be so interesting. She was like, no, I'm just like sad, but like I heard she was talking shit.
So like, yeah, I didn't answer her text. Oh, that must have been on the after show.
What did she say? Oh, and he was like, well, what do you think about what she said? What did she say? And she had said that like, she was really disappointed that her and Paige- Paige didn't reach that her and page when she was pregnant and that she had reached out to page like post breakup and page never answered and so page was like well that's like not entirely true like before we broke up a couple of weeks i had heard that she was like talking shit about me and charleston i was like bummed about it because i thought we were real friends and then she did not text me when we broke up she texted me like two months later in january when there was like a lot of internet drama and it's like she was reaching out like not about the breakup but about the tea and I just didn't answer because I didn't feel like you know like starting drama or whatever so that's why I didn't answer she like every question didn't really I didn't feel like she was harboring any like a real ill will or resentment actually as somebody who's a page and craig stan and who likes them both really equally like actually I felt the episode and again I didn't watch it in its at peace. I'm like, you know what? I think we've all moved on.
Like, she had to answer all of these things. She did have to answer all the questions.
But no, there were some shady moments. I watched the whole episode.
Like, when Andy asked her, what did you think about Kyle calling Craig a liar and watching up his life? And she said, I think he hit the nail on the head. No, I know.
But, like, she is, I also still didn't think that that was like crazy vindictive or like she had to answer and that's how she feels and she didn't do it in like a i don't hurt her tone wasn't the entire episode i thought her tone was very like light yeah she kept it light but like she's saying that he's a liar she said um he asked what she thought about the southern charm reunion because craig shared a lot about their relationship on the reunion which i'm sure she'll answer the same questions they're filming Southern Summer House reunion today um she said I disagreed with all of it I loved listening to it because I was like what a fun story so again like big fat liar she's saying um of course like saying that Craig had said on Southern Charm reunion that he she had mentioned getting married at Bravo Con like in passing like as probably as a joke and she like was like that never happened you know do you see my wedding invitation saying convention center um so it was like I don't know it was a little bit salty like as you would expect um but so funny I really did not read it that way I actually felt like enormous relief watching it I'm like you know what like we're it looks like they're like she's over it yeah but then andy was like he said at the end you guys have he was like even though you broke up and like obviously blah blah blah you guys have been saying like nice things about each other she was like we have and i guess like they have i don't think that's a fair assessment because even andy had said someone asked like in hindsight do you wish you chose andrea over craig and she was like no no which is i guess a nice thing to say like stupid fucking question that's a bad question yeah plus like Andrea's married like no and I actually don't think that they've been overly nice because I think it actually for like a second got pretty bad but as far as breakups go and they both have to be on reality TV they both have podcasts like I don't know I didn't think it was so bad like I feel like. Like, we had to hear from Paige.
Well, we'll hear from her again at the reunion, and then it's over. And then if she said anything surprising, then maybe Craig will respond to that.
But then it will be over after that. Andy asked her what she thought about the new girl, and she said, I love it.
She said she was very happy. I'm so happy for him.
And I mean, that's really when you've moved on. That was like when Wes said over the summer, like, they asked, how would you if Sierra was hooking up with someone? And he was like, I would feel relieved.
Like, oh, my God. But that's different.
That's called moved on. No, that's we're not even worried about him being moved on.
Like he just wants to be out of her line of fire. Yeah.
No, but like that's like you. There's no pining or hoping that you're getting back together.
Like it would be a relief for them to be with someone else. Well, know that and that's why they broke up and then sierra's saying like well i still like him like that was devastating to hear yeah yeah well let's speak of west let's dive into the summer house recap it was actually a great episode for people who fucking hate jesse solomon it was a great episode for lexi this whole time i'm so worried about lexi like oh my god when she hears what jesse has been doing like she's so head over heels for him like and she leads with an open heart and I know she would do it again but like oh my god she's just gonna be knocked off her socks yep this girl is strong I didn't see it was a great episode for Amanda too who like doesn't really move or shake much and she's kind of like one of the girls who's most up Jesse Solomon's ass.
I think she likes the attention he gives her more than the other girls.

So to see her like finally being like, by the way, Jesse's like kind of saying like rude things.

Not rude, but like things you shouldn't say about the girl that you're dating to us.

I mean, she wasn't honest about how all the girls reacted and like gassed him up.

And I understand why he's mad because he's like, but you guys were agreeing with me.

And now you're like telling her I'm a traitor.

So I actually, I agree.

His beef with the girls is totally valid. But it was nice to see somebody like actually stand up for Lexi and I thought that um Jesse was just pissing me off so much like when Wes was like receiving this information that like it's actually not what Jesse's making it seem like at all and he's putting together like yeah in the car he said he would call her in 10 minutes but we're gonna be at the house in 10 minutes like jesse's kind of like the crazy obsessive one yeah which makes sense like lexi's very cool she did in brooklyn beckham like she stopped pining over jesse solomon no like she'll be okay if she doesn't talk to you for 10 minutes correct and like how he's really kind of successfully manipulated the audience and the house into thinking that she's the crazy one he like went on this mission why I don't know I know why I'm sorry I know why I meant to send this to you I don't know if you saw Lexi went on like a page six I think it's like the virtual reality podcast and they asked like an innocuous question and she was just like I mean I know that last season he was like a little he had said to me and to others like he was like butthurt that like Wes, they came in together and Wes got like all the attention.
And it was like literally the whole season was about Wes and everyone's talking about it in the reunion. And obviously it wasn't good, but it's still attention, right? And that's why you go on these shows.
And that he felt like a little, like his position was a little threatened and he was kind of jealous of the attention Wes was getting. So he's kind of like copying Wes.
That's interesting and incredibly stupid if that's really what he's really lame especially because like to come in in your first season and get all the love that Jesse did and like it it's not controversial that's like a great way to start and like nobody wants to have the season that Wes had where it's like you're the biggest deal your sophomore season is so bad it's like you there's only you can only go down so that really was his strategy and he was jealous of jealous of Wes. Like Wes should have been jealous of him.
Like we both came on the show. Like we both have all the same opportunities.
And you're beloved and I'm hated. Yeah.
But I don't know. Maybe he wants to be in the New York Times.
But like seriously. Like yeah.
A real job. Like what is he chasing? No.
And it's hard because we were talking last week with his Shabbat. Like I want to love him.
No. There are moments.
I'm I'm just gonna I'm holding space for loving Jesse

Solomon in certain moments and hating him in other moments and loving him like as a person and I see why the girls maybe are good friends with him because as a friend maybe he's amazing world's worst boyfriend yeah and I just feel like I have to say as long as we're holding space for multiple things like when like his singing like I actually butt clench like I can't music, he's always using his own songs on TikTok, like making TikToks.

And because baby, I want you.

Like I can't.

I actually.

We could fall in love.

Like I literally know it.

I don't mind it because I think it's like very.

Endearing.

Shameless and not in a bad way.

Like just not embarrassed.

Like he's been through, you know, a life and death scenario.

If he wants to sing, he's going to sing.

And he doesn't have a bad voice.

Okay, that's fair.

No, and like he's been through you know a life and death scenario if he wants to sing he's gonna sing and he doesn't have a bad voice that's fair no and like he has this like platform so it's like you making music yeah i know like but it's not the same like it makes me cringe it's a yolo thing and i will allow it i'm also i really appreciated that they brought up the Instagram comments thing again because it was exactly like we said.

Lexi was like, I never told him to stop.

I just said like your tone should change a little bit

like you have a girlfriend now.

So instead of saying like, oh, mamacita, you look so sexy.

You could be like, oh, what a beautiful woman.

Yeah, like, and I was so glad that she said that

because that was one of the things that they,

he tried to use against her

and all the other girls were like,

she doesn't want you leaving comments. They were gassing up and it's like no i didn't when we heard the extreme take from him like his extreme pov we're like that's not even crazy like not but she not say those things but even if she had like it wouldn't have been that crazy but what she actually said was so watered down and he amped it up to make her look crazy and unsuccessfully to us but I guess when you're in the summer house and like everyone is a little immature it seems crazy I'm sorry I'm just like kind of like stuck on you comparing my music to Jesse Solomon's like can we just go back there that was really uncool I meant it in a flattering way I meant it in a flattering way like when you have a platform you can do whatever you want and you can put out what you want and you've got a song in your heart.
It's not the same. And I would appreciate an apology.
But that apologizing like would, like I'm sorry. I literally sat here and said like it made me cringe.
I'm sorry. And I'm also sorry.
Oh no, take that back. I'm sorry that I haven't articulated it in the way that is not offensive to you because it was actually a compliment and you have that YOLO mentality and you're yeah but I literally said like it makes me cringe and like that's like when you did your music well it doesn't make me cringe but okay I'm sorry thank you um now another thing that's going on in the house is this whole Sierra Jessie thing.

And I like, I'm not on a side there because I think they're both wrong.

Like, Jessie being like, oh, don't touch me.

Like, shut up.

What are you, three years old?

But, like, Sierra not letting it go.

Like, as a self-proclaimed girl's girl, like, you can think what you want, but just, like, you making such a big thing of it.

Now we're all talking about you and Jessie. He has a girlfriend.
Like, I think she's handling it actually, like, really poorly. Yeah.
And even, like, even when he gave her a hug, they pulled up to the house, and she, like, makes it a whole thing. Like, stop.
Well, she said at the dinner with the girls, like, he's dead to her now. That's so crazy.
It's crazy. I guess it is a little extreme like we could just what if we just talked about it yeah i also really like having tom schwartz around me too what about tom schwartz and lexi she deserves better much yeah he's like i think there was a point where he was once like an extremely like sought after attractive bravo liberty sandy's clothes like he's kind of old like it's not the vibe no i agree but in the context of summer house when you forget like all of his crimes yes yes he's a real cutie and yes i like him i actually i'm gonna give a compliment to kyle cook if that Oh, wow.
You're really coming for me this summer house reunion. What? I just wanted to give a shout out on him spotlighting male fertility and infertility and getting your sperm tested.
I thought that that was, I guess Schwartz did the same thing. I mean, no.
And you know, like Amanda ordered the kit for him. Like he was just having to be in the kitchen.
Because in the next episode, she said she doesn't know if she wants kids. Okay.'re not allowed to give compliments sorry and i guess like when schwartz did it i didn't think it like it was anything interesting i mean the bar is in hell for kyle cook it's true but um i thought that was just like funny but oh i didn't i went to the bathroom but never mind it was a great episode honestly.
And for the Lexi scans. It was.
Because she gets a lot of hate. She gets a lot of hate.
Yeah. But like, no, finally like putting the pieces together and like her hearing what Jessie said.
I loved it. And then like actually hearing the truth and how like all week he's like up her butt and obsessed with her and like so clingy, so love bomb-y.
And then goes and talks shit about her. Yes, precisely.
That is what what he does and i love that she's like not she's not so head over heels that if it ended tomorrow like she would be devastated like she no they have painted a picture of lexi up until this point that is completely inaccurate yeah yeah the both jesse and the show because even her the show the confessionals are like oh my. No, not one moment of her expressing reservations about him or yellow flags about him, aside from the toe, which by the way, in the grand scheme of everything that he's done, like the toe doesn't even scratch the surface.
I think it's even weirder. Like the toe isn't the weirdest part of that whole evening for me.
It's the fact that he went into a room where Imroul was having areesome get out yeah yes scram yeah but like the toe was a mistake that happened drunkenly he like it was just a moment you know like it's not a pattern everything else is like a pattern of behavior that's not just like I will never do that again no and when they were, he's such an annoying fighter. You want me to be a robot? Oh my God.
Right, like, hey, hey. Like, hey, that's just not, that's like what someone with nothing left to say says.
And so as somebody who has felt like all the girls have kind of left Lexi in the lurch up until recently, like seeing them all huddled around her at the pool, like actually giving her good advice and being on her side.

I found that to be restorative.

And like,

I'm looking forward to that,

that energy now.

Yeah.

I really hope they don't go back to like shipping Sierra and Jesse though.

Cause that was like,

what is that?

The worst possible next move for Sierra.

For Sierra.

Yes.

Like has she learned nothing?

Austin West? Like Jesse is actually actually officially, as a boyfriend, worse than West. Yep.
West. And if she goes with Jessie next, and it's like, in real time, it sounds like they're like...
I know, they were together at Coachella. Paige said they were just both happened to be at Coachella.
It's like different brand stuff, and so they're friends. So they saw each other.
But Lexi said she had a birthday party and she invited the entire cast.

And only Jessie and Sierra didn't come.

And then they were together that night boycotting her party together.

And I just want to say like if Sierra and Jessie get together, like she will have none of my sympathy.

Because I've been so ride or die.

Her versus Wes.

Her versus Austin.

I was so against Lindsay.

Like I was so team Sierra.

Fool me once.

Fool me twice.

Shame on you.

I don't know him.

Three times.

He's the same.

Oh, Luke.

I'm going like you will no longer have my sympathies what about Carl oh he's I mean the word that comes to mind time and time again it's just pathetic like when they show that clip I have a crush on you. And his tan line porn.
That was the funniest conversation. No, Wes is so funny.
I'm sorry. He's a perfect reality star.
Like you don't have to love him, but he's brilliant. Slowly to season.
He's like chipped away at all the anger that I had towards him. I'm totally fine with him.
He is a great reality star. And I texted you this, but I just want to put it out into the world that I think Brianna Chicken Fry should be on the next season of Summer House.
She would be the perfect cast. Absolutely.
Absolutely. Perfect, because she's like, she's got her own world, like how so many of the other people who have come on have an influencer thing going.
And she's so single. She's hooked up with Wes, I think.
Yep, they have but it's coming for what she's huge personality no and and I do think I don't know what the future of Summer House looks like for Lindsay I don't know if it's going to be like this forever and unfortunately because as much as I love her but she's made really no inroads with any of the other girls I sometimes forget that she's there Gabby um like I think her time is up if Lindsay goes then Gabby will probably go but like the thing about Gabby it's like she she doesn't take away from anything like I like when she's there and she always has like yes a good piece of advice or like just as a good shoulder or a listener so like I hope I just she's a sound of mind individual I hope there's enough beds to accommodate Gabby even as we continue to beef up the cast I know because when Paige, Sierra and Amanda came down in their matching outfits and like Gabby was in the kitchen by herself like dressed as something else entirely like I actually felt I felt really bad for her yeah but also so it was Gabby, Lindsay and Lexi who were not dressed together no I know but like they were just like she was the only one in the kitchen. Yeah, I understand.
I was like, is this awkward? I thought that too. I was like, that's okay.
I'm glad. It's just a little like clicky.
But they are a click and they're best friends and this is their party and it's their bed thing. Like, duh.
So it's not like. Right.
But it's a little clicky. Yeah.
But they're a click. Yeah.
So they're going to be clicky. Click's going to click.
Click's going to click. Normalize having a click.
Okay, sorry, I have a good group of friends. Sorry, like, we're so close and you're not as close.
And sorry we're, like, way cooler than you. And we have, like, matching outfits and we have, like, love and inside jokes.
So much fun. We're not doing it to hurt you.
It just hurts you. I mean, history.
Yeah. You can try Sears.
It's just unfortunate, you know? Because it's not something that's like born of ill intention but it hurts people right and people like to center themselves being like you guys are in a click and it's like well yeah we are what that has to do with you i'm not sure because you're not in it do you know what i mean i feel like that was like like the core like of all your high school drama was like you guys are being clicky they're a click and it's like well yes sure objection like who are you yeah no it's like we like each other is that a crime and we don't like you like right it's what you're gonna be mad you're gonna force us to like you no and it's like either not that that's what's happening with gabby we've moved on but like just the i actually think they do like gabby the concept of clicks yeah it's called like having a comfort group of people like what's wrong with that no it's not it just like it could hurt someone's feelings and i guess if that person had their own click which i feel though as though maybe if you had a click that you were passionate about you would know what it's like but you don. So I would say if you find yourself on the outside of a clique and that's hurting you, go start your own clique.
And go hurt someone else. If you find yourself on the outside of a clique, spending your energy trying to penetrate that clique and make them understand you is a waste.
Go find other clique-less people and start your own. Click of losers.
Yeah. But we don't have to know that's how you guys came together.
No! The origins of your click are totally yours to interpret. We just want to see your charter.
We want to see your matching outfits. And we want to see you victimize another person.
And we want someone else to feel bad and then you'll know you've succeeded. Correct.
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