Shattering The Glass Ozone: Tuesday, April 15th, 2025

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It's the toast. It's Jackson.
Claude. And we're your your host it's your favorite show the fast five things you need to know we'll start your day off swirly it's the toast they sound amazing claudia supports michael buble okay like we need to talk about that ready i was I was thinking it already.
Let's get into it. Let's get into it.
Oh, wait. You have a piece of hair.
Where? Yeah, that. Good? Yep.
Welcome back to The Toast. Happy Tuesday.
Yes, Jackie is slandering me before the show even begins, but it's not slander because it's 100% true. I am drinking, you know, I pretty much have a LaCroix every day here ever since like people asked me to stop drinking my iced coffee, the ice was bothering them.
I have a LaCroix. And yesterday I went to place an order, and they didn't have LaCroix.
They said, can we offer you bubbly? Bublé. And obviously, like, I need to drink, right? So I said yes, and I wasn't going to go pick up the LaCroix myself.
So I'm drinking bubbly. And I will tell you, like, I pulled it out of the fridge this this morning and I felt bad.
You need to put a piece of tape over the logo. Give him no press.
I love that. You have tape, but don't get up.
Yeah. No, I'm not getting up.
I'll do it tomorrow. For tomorrow.
Today he can have a little shine. Thanks for calling me out.
Yes, I am drinking a bubbly, but just know it's not by choice. I'm merely a victim of circumstance.
But are you liking it? No, I also think it's an inferior beverage. Okay.
LaCroix will always be my number one seltzer. Tied with Pellegrino.
Pellegrino in a can. Oh, Pellegrino.
I like Pellegrino in any vessel. Sometimes.
I have the plastic bottle right here, actually, and it just doesn't hold the bubble like a can okay the cans are smaller so like you don't have as much like i there's a lot in this plastic bottle i'll drink it and then it gets flat if we're gonna go plastic bottle we're gonna go perrier i think that they do plastic much better sometimes like a good perrier going down the esophagus, like it burns. It's so bubbly.
I'm not a huge Perrier person, like in a pinch, sure. But I'll always prefer the groin.
And in our house, we do call it groin. We call it Pellegrino.
Oh, I guess I didn't realize that wasn't a universal thing. Because we're so silly.
Like I'll say to my husband, can you grab me a groin? Yeah, yeah, no, 100%. Do you want groin for dinner? Do you want groin with your dinner? I do.
I always want groin yeah yeah no 100 do you want groin for dinner do you want groin with your dinner i do i always want groin with my dinner well you know i had heard that seltzer was a bladder irritant so i've been trying to pull back i haven't heard that no i heard that so not that it's helped at all i'm trying to give you a pass coach like take not that it's helped did you see that caroline cogeniacchi is in news? Like for having been engaged to Rory McIlroy. Have you seen this part of his history? Yeah, of course.
I brought it up yesterday. No, but not the Woj.
Yeah, I brought up Caroline Kojiniak yesterday. You did? Yes.
That's just so crazy. That's like that law.
What's that law where like when it rains, it pours? Butterfly effect? Oh, like when you see some Mandela effect? Is that it? No. Like when you see something and then you start seeing it everywhere.
Right. Like I just started calling you like Kojuris Wojuris, Caroline Kojniacki last week.
And now she's on the Daily Mail. Yeah.
Her name is Wojniacki, but I see what you're saying. Yes, they have a very sort of tortured past the two of them left her at the

altar not really they were engaged to be married and literally the second they sent out their

wedding invitations two days later he called off the wedding and he said it was like yeah he said

it was like the invitations that really shook him to his core um and he like made a public statement

about it too which was weird she's obviously like so much better off without him her husband now is

so fucking hot and like honestly rory mackerel i could never david lee could eat him for breakfast

He's like a thousand feet taller. So I'm happy for everything works out.
But that was extremely uncool. Sorry, Wojniacki.
Yeah, not cool for Wojniacki. Not cool for the Wojniacki community.
Well, we're doing okay. It's just the two of you.
And you seem happy. We actually do follow each other on social media.
We do follow each other on social media, me and Caroline. You're lying.
No, like, she was one of the first, like, famous people to follow me. And I followed her back.
And I'm just, like, I've been keeping up with her for many years. So she's got a great sense of humor.
1,000%. She's besties with Serena Williams.
Well, we're going to be talking about Serena Williams today. So why don't you table that? Okay.
Should I table how I wrote my college thesis on Serena? Or do you want to talk about that later? I think it might come up. Like, I think it might be germane to the story about her.
So just table it, if you will. Great, great.
Lots of book news today. Lots of book news.
I watched some TV last night. I finished Kardashian's season six.
Okay, so did I, except I have like half the finale left. So I guess I didn't finish it, but I caught up on a bunch of episodes.
Oh, let me tell you, I was cackling. Like, it really is such a good show.
It is so good. And I feel so many, a range of emotions when I watch it.
Like, I truly feel like happy like happy I feel emotional something was happening on the finale that I was like girls don't cry like it's I can't remember what it was I got a little choked up about Amari oh yeah that was really beautiful um and Chloe's just like she's so special yeah she is so special I got choked up I told you guys like during Chloe's party like just seeing her so happy and especially when I thought the party was gonna be such a flop and like that's just the best feeling in the world I love that they acknowledge that it's like the Chloe Chris and Kim show and then she was like actually it's just the Chloe Kim with a side of Chris show you know what I think I was almost making me cry Courtney on skinny confidential when they were saying to Michael and Lauren like it goes so fast they were like Mason's in high school in high school like and then Courtney in the last episode was talking about slowing down her life because she really wants to like be in every moment and it's just emo. Meissen DeChambeau.
Meissen.

Meissen Disick.

It's really a good show.

Like I really have enjoyed watching it so much.

And I've come to the conclusion that there's no way on earth that they all get paid the

same.

Like I don't know why I've always thought that they do.

I had a similar thought.

But like Kylie goes to nothing.

She didn't even do a solo interview.

There's no fucking way. There's no fucking way that they get paid the same.

And like weirdly, Kendall shows up to everything.

But provides very little.

Yeah, she's trying.

She's working.

And you know what?

I actually really appreciated her.

She was probably the most visible on this season that I've ever seen her.

She did solo interviews.

She went on her college tour.

She like was like going to her sister's houses just to like check a box. she was going to her sister's houses she went to mj's birthday party yeah um there's i i remember when they were at e i believe they were open with us that like they all split it when they got that huge deal with e i remember it was on the cover of new york post 100 million dollars um but there's no way no there's no way and i think that Courtney used to split with them.
And then she was always filming and she was always unhappy because she didn't like the filming. And now if you're splitting, you have to.
And so she would just show up and just be in a bad mood. And then they're talking about why she's in a bad mood.
And she just like didn't like what she was doing. But now I think, especially with Travis being a breadwinner, like she doesn't have to work so much.
And so she's not not I think at one point she was making the same as Kim and Chloe and now she's definitely not she's like I agree and I think it really works but it is funny it's Kim and Chloe and Chris will go to anything the fact that you went to Joshua Tree okay I fucking love Chris Chris is so underrated they all clown on her much. I was cackling so hard at her leaving at 2 in the

morning. I was also just cracking up at her

like whole vibe in

where were they? Joshua Tree?

Watching

them walk around Joshua Tree, Kim wearing

cargo pants and like a big fuzzy

The bag. The bag.

I actually like felt uncomfortable.

It was painful for me. Why does she

dress like that? Like so unreasonable. She's always dressed for the wrong occasion.
Yeah. It was making me sick.
Chloe like biker shorts and a Lululemon tank. Like thank you.
Yeah, Chloe. But then also I actually Chris was dressed perfectly because she was covered from head to toe in her little.
Yeah, very safari. Trenched jumpsuit because I feel like they were going to get bug bites.
All of them just like hopping off that RV with their Birkins. I just want to say I would take an RV trip with like the family.
I think that would be really fun. I know you would.
You would need no convincing. I know.
It would be your idea. Like I think we should do it.
You love RV because you love RV. I love the movie RV.
I'm constantly influenced by RV, but I want to say my interest in this type of trip actually has nothing to do with RV, my favorite Robin Williams movie. It more so has to do with Joby Tardy.
I want to say like season seven or eight when they were like kind of grasping at straws. I think they knew their show was about to get canceled and they were like, just let's do some shit.
They took all the kids on an RV around, I think for the summer. It was so funny to like stop to casinos.
That would be would be fun like we would have the best time I'm open just because of the kids like I'll do anything for them they will love it they will love it but I need to sit up front with the driver oh that's a great scene yeah that's where Cheryl Hines that's where Cheryl Hines sits in RV yeah that's where I'll be with my drama meme. Gotta get your kicks.
That would be us the whole time. En route 66.
And Kristen Chenoweth is in that movie too. I told you we started on my RV soapbox, but it star started.
JoJo, Cheryl Hines, Robin Williams, and Kristen Chenoweth. Yeah.
And people always talk about Robin Williams' breadth of work and they talk about Dead Poets Society and Patch or whatever that movie's called. And they don't talk about RV.
And like when I tell you like the biggest belly laughs I've ever had in my life are from that movie. That's funny.
One of my other favorite movies does take place in an RV. And I feel like it doesn't get lumped into the RV category.
We are the Millers. We are the Millers.
So, so good. Oh, and then we can like watch an RV movie every night.
Yay.

No, I'm telling you, this sounds so much fun.

We'll just have to like really invest in a good RV and like good, you know, like people to help. I think we need multiple RVs.

Yeah.

I think we need a lot of RVs.

And also, how do you feel about like if we actually don't do a lot of driving?

Like we kind of stay in one state, you know, and it just feels like we're on an RV trip, but we're not like going the distance. As long as we're seeing beautiful things, I don't care.
Like let's do an RV trip through Utah. Arizona.
Yeah. Let's keep it small.
I'm fine with that. A real issue I have with RVs is that there's one master bedroom and then like six bunks.
And when Chloe, I was like, there's no way Chloe is sleeping in that bunk bed. And she did.
like a slot like a hole in the wall that you climb into she slept on the top bunk was really and then Kim was in the bed well she obviously got into the bed in the middle of the night or in the morning like went looking for her mom and then just got in the bed because she slept on the bottom bunk at first got it got it and she wasn't in the bed when Chris left oh Chris was in the bed I understand. I understand.
Of course. Yeah.
But that top bunk, no. What else did you watch? And then I watched Beverly Hills part two because tonight is part three.
Oh, you scared me. I was like, did I miss it? No, no, no.
It's tonight. So I just wanted to be caught up just in case I don't have time to watch like a ton of TV tonight.
Oh, good. Okay.
Yeah. So we'll watch part three tonight, putting, you know, an end to really, like, a kind of dreadful season.
But I've enjoyed it nonetheless. I'm having fun.
Yeah, the reunion has been really good. Doreen is killing it.
Like, seriously killing it. And Sutton...
Is mute. Once Jennifer Tilly said is Sutton on, like, an anxiety medication, yeah, she seems altered.
Not in a sense... Subdued.
Yeah, and it is as if we get two sutons even during the season like one where she's like so fired up so sassy like ready to fight and then this sutton she's definitely different in this reunion yeah maybe at this point when they had filmed it she had seen some of the response to her behavior and was adjusting i don't know it looks like like tonight she like gets dragged by her hair for once and for all.

It's so, you know, I'm not wearing a watch, but it's time.

It is time.

So that was good.

And then I'm all caught up on Paul American.

If you are watching Paul American, then you're enjoying, then you're having the time of your

life like me.

I started a new show and I, you know, I'm kind of in this phase where I'm like looking for a new comfort show ever since I started, stopped, finished Desperate Housewives. And I hate to come on here because I know that like the shows I'm talking about are people's favorites, right? Like Gilmore Girls, it didn't hit for me.
And I'm watching Parenthood now. And it's also Parents.
Okay. And it's a show that I think we would like.
It's like a big family, four siblings who are all grown, married with kids and like the inter family, you know, cousin issues, work issues. And it also features Lauren Graham, who's Lorelai Gilmore.
I'm really not enjoying the show. And I would say most of it is because of her.
So I'm feeling maybe like the common thread isn't that I don't like these shows. Maybe I don't like Lauren Graham.
Her character she plays in both is very similar you know she's like a single mom she's like a little crazy like um and I find her fucking insufferable and I'm so like I hate to be that person because like I keep coming on here like talking about shows that people love people like die for parenthood and Ben's loving it I'm like hating it okay maybe move on I, maybe move on. I know, but, like, I can't start fresh again.
I've started so many shows. We also started Friday Night Lights.
Ben had never seen it. Oh, so good.
But you don't want to watch Poldark? I don't even know what that is. I always am telling you about Poldark.
You are? I feel like you're always telling me about Outlander. I didn't finish Outlander.
It wasn't for me. That's really the shock.

You can't put me in a box because I didn't like Outlander.

That's how.

And I made it like well into season two.

She went to France.

Like can't put me in a box.

So I watched that scene for nothing.

For the lore.

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Cool. But Ben picks up things from us.
Of course. Ben's walking around the house all day.
You will love it. You will love it.
He's like, you'll like it. I was like, oh, what? He's like, you will like it.
It's like my new favorite toastism. Yeah.
It's really amazing how the kids just like give us now a whole other bucket of content people don't realize actually you you would love it also does come with a hand gesture if you're watching on youtube you can see it goes a little bit like this you you would love it it's very rabbinical actually it is speaking of rabbinical how's your journey with chummy it's it's been good i made a matzah piece here yesterday my the issue with my journey is that i can't keep matzah in my house like it is flying off the shelves i mean it's the only thing to eat from olivia's yesterday because i didn't have any i left her three slices because i'm nice and it was gone within the hour can i ask you a question actually is that a lot of matzah like are we eating too much matzah that is a lot of matzah okay i thought like it should take you like days yeah like yesterday or no Sunday, I bought two boxes of much matzah? That is a lot of matzah. Okay.
I thought it should take you like days. Yeah, like yesterday or no, Sunday, I bought two boxes of egg matzah.
And I'm not even through the first one. Oh.
Well, we're four. Yeah, me and Ben.
I mean, I'm two. And now the kids are demanding a huge sheet of it.
Like they don't want it in pieces. They don't eat the whole sheet, but like they won't take it another way.
Let me ask you a question because in my opinion, one of the best ways to enjoy matzah is matzah with like nice, delicious, good salted butter. But it's so impossible to spread without breaking.
How do you butter your matzah? So I break it with the butter. But if I had a little more patience, I would wait for the butter to get soft.
One. Yeah.
Or use butter spray, but I don't use chemicals use chemicals so I've been using butter spray I can't believe it's not butter spray actually fun fact about me is I use a lot of butter spray I love it on my court on the cob I can't believe it's there has to be butter spray that's made of real butter I know so it's like it's something it's actually a true guilty pleasure I know it's so bad for me but it's it's obviously delicious it's more so the mechanism it's so convenient it's the ease it's the functionality of it I'm gonna go to the store and look for spray on butter that's just like Kerry I know they have like spray like Kerrygold doesn't fuck with that like they have spray on butter like for popcorn but that's different it's all sounds yucky I know I just love spray on butter there's got to be a better way but definitely soft butter like melted butter try that yeah but my butter sits in the fridge so yeah you're right i have to plan my snacks an hour in advance i don't have that kind of patience do you have a butter holder thing or no i do what is that thing you're called butter dish butter dish it's time to bust mine out. I got you one, right? Yeah use it but now i i will this week for sure it's such a great thing to have if like you're consistently using user right if not it just like doesn't solve the problem because it sits in the fridge or it goes bad on your counter correct no you're supposed to put it in the fridge at night take it out in the morning it's a full-time job yes oh my god i i'm too you can't leave it out all day that's like the butter will go bad it refrigerate at night and then like when you have your coffee take it out so throughout the day people can use it sparingly and then put it back in the fridge it's literally like a full-time thing like maybe when i'm 50 i'll start doing that you know when we're retired yeah like when i have time on my hands it's really crazy but it does sound like if you were to get on like a really good schedule with it like it would be life-changing i could just see myself falling asleep and being like i didn't put the butter in the fridge that's like me with my starter like any task that i have late at night right it kind of falls through the cracks right right but see you've made it such a priority that like it matters a lot to you that's how you have to be with the butter i but because you're already up late at night, like with your starter in the kitchen, you've made it such a priority that like it matters a lot to you.
That's how you have to be with the butter.

But because you're already up late at night, like with your starter in the kitchen,

you might naturally be able to move the butter into the fridge.

Try it.

I will try it for this week, at least for Passover.

Because if it works, you would love it.

You will love it.

I love you.

Oh, also, I'm assuming we're going to talk more about the ass and astronauts. We are.
We have more to discuss. Good.
Good. Because actually, I've had a bit of a change of heart.
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Our first story, more updates are coming out from the Blue Origin all-female rocket ride. don't even we can't call them the astronauts they're not astronauts they weren't crew they didn't do anything they were passengers oh yeah that's like a really good call what were they passengers okay on their ride in the rocket so who's operating the rocket someone down on the ground it was um computer operated.
A man. Okay.
One thousand percent a man.

Got noted.

But we do need clarification.

I do think if it was a woman, they would have shared that tidbit.

Obviously.

But it better have been a woman.

Otherwise, like this is.

I'm sure it was like a whole team of the Blue Origin peeps.

Like, you know, they sit in the control room like in hidden figures, men and women.

It should have been a whole team of women in the room.

And then do you think they still would have gone? Would they have come home is the question. No, I'm kidding.
Like, I'm... That sounds really scary.
Yeah, of course, no. I'm good.
I want the best and brightest. I don't care who it is, you know? Right, no, no, like it's my life.
I don't care if you have a penis or vagina, vagina, the penis. I don't care if you have both.
Like, seriously, get me home safe. like it's my life i don't care if you have a penis or vagina vagina me too i don't care if you have both like seriously get me home safe no it's so true oh my god now just give a lot that just gave me a fright literally chill down my spine there's been a lot of backlash like obviously we've been clowning on these bitches for weeks and everybody's sort of just now joining us we were were doing it when it was like not said yet.
It was still not popular. Press darling thing to do.
Who's going to have an issue with women going to space and breaking barriers and literally shattering the glass ozone. And Gayle King, she's sort of this media princess.
Like she's America loves her. Like nothing she does gets backlash.
So I'm sure this is new territory for her yeah and Lauren is definitely more familiar with backlash but like she is of course marrying the most powerful man in the world like if you're a person who can't like in media like you don't want to piss this lady off that's not a person you want to piss off I also don't think Lauren is immune to like internet beef and and and people clowning on her i think this was really new for gail and some of the other unknowns yes oh yeah the unknowns are just like you know they're in my lives of service and and they're not getting like when we talk about no we're talking about katie perry what do you know katie we don't even know their names really i know a little bit of that of their names but we don't even say their names on this show. So, like, they can go on to do other things.
And, like, we're not always going to be, like, and they were on the flight. Right.
Unaffected, mostly. I think they'll be able to still do great things.
But, like, this is something that we'll have thought. Katie Perry is taking the brunt of all of it.
But she's also the reason why there's so much hate. Like, she's just.
I connected to love right now here are things katie perry did in space and afterwards katie perry saying what a wonderful world during the rocket ride the women said i believe on the way down they said um they had been asking her to sing like this whole time i don't know if they meant like the whole time in this capsule or like since they all got together they've been wanting i don't believe that they were all asking her to sing i don't believe it gail said like we wanted her to sing and she wouldn't sing and then when we went up there she sang what a wonderful world like and that was really beautiful i don't believe that she um she teased the set list for her lifetimes tour in the capsule and nobody moved no and it actually like had to be explained that that's what because she held up a butterfly butterfly on it into like the live stream and then it flew away and apparently the words on it like where's the set list for the lifetime store yeah she brought a daisy with her as an homage to her daughter and then like brought the daisy back home and and then she kissed the ground um but let me tell you something about these women because I do feel like they are immune to all this criticism right now because they are on such a high like the way that Lauren Sanchez described like coming back down to earth how she just like wants to give everyone a hug like we're all one people when you see things at a glance like they did world at a glance and it was really powerful for them and I I could imagine feeling that way, having gone to space for 10 minutes, like seeing the earth. Like that's a very powerful thing.
Of course. No, it's kind of like when you go to Europe and then you come back and you think you're like too good for everyone, you know? Yeah.
No, but it's, I don't know. It's like, it's something like it's in the cosmos.
It's existential. It's existential.
It's like godliness. Like so few people in human history have seen the world at that vantage point like there's something very powerful about it that is getting lost in all of this mishigas and usually you earn that through space exploration and advancements in science like not just for kicks but like they're not even hearing what we're all saying because they are on such a high right now that you can only experience from seeing the world at a glance so it sounds like you two are having a bit of a change of heart let me tell you what i'm having now it's popular to clown on them and you know us i don't like that no and what i don't like is like when i saw first of all like we talked like a week or two ago about olivia munn clowning on them and i was like, damn, because she was like us.
Nobody was saying these things, right? It was kind of brave. But now everyone's, it's easy to join the like hate bandwagon.
And I saw two things that kind of made me like switch my POV. I saw two outspoken women, Emily Ratajkowski and Olivia Wilde, like clowning on this.
Emily Ratajkowski has been like leaving comments on TikToks basically the messaging from both of them being like this is so stupid wasteful there are people Kim there's people that are dying basically and I don't know I don't want to I don't I don't feel right finding myself on the same side as Olivia Wilde and Emily Ratajkowski because I feel like when I'm always talking about like toxic women like feminism like herstory I'm literally talking about Oliviae. Like whenever I'm talking about the toxic, like whatever brand of feminism where it's like you're a feminist, but you literally hate women.
I'm literally talking about Olivia Wilde. She's Emily Ratajkowski.
Yes. There are the two people I am always thinking of in my brain, mostly Olivia Wilde, Shia, Shia, Shia, Shia.
Like, Oh, I'm the first woman director. I'm a first woman, woman, woman.
woman meanwhile you're begging an abuser to come while the girl is like please stop like I'm literally referring to Olivia Wilde when I talk about when I talk about toxic feminism and Emily Ratajkowski is not far behind so the fact that they're on this side I gotta switch yeah I have to switch and I will say like this random feminism of the blue origin flight is is a different It's not the toxic. It's like the Barbie movie feminism.

Like.

Corny.

Corny.

Little cringe.

Harmless.

Harmless.

Harmless.

I think that the Olivia Wilde brand of feminism is actually harmful.

Yeah.

So once I saw that she was like echoing some of my sentiments, I had to change my sentiments. Yeah, I agree.
I've come full circle. And also remind me at the end of the year, in case I forget, this is one of my top five stories of the year.
Like nothing will mean so much. Like it's fucking hysterical.
And also they did they went to space like we can't not talk about the fact that like they saw the horror of the the moon like the the earth even though they're being like so cringe about it like that is an experience that so few people will ever get to have especially common people who didn't like wait their whole life except for the one there was one girl who's on the yes she's like a space person no and there was another girl who is uh like a civil rights activist but she had dreams of being an astronaut that she had to put on hold because she was raped and then she dedicated her life to like fight like to writing new law that was passed like to help victims so oh my god yeah like there's like that's getting lost here it's Getting lost is a night, it's, it's, it is.

And I was relieved to see like little to no footage of them like putting on lashes and glam. Maybe that was like more of a joke they were making.
I thought they were actually going to be like applying their lipstick in space. I thought that they were like now I'm thinking that maybe they thought their lashes would be like taken off by gravity.
Right. Right.
But they were gravity defying lashes. Which is a dumb thought.
Yeah. Okay.
I liked that Blue Origin. I'm being positive now.
Oh, do you like that Jeff Bezos tripped? Yes. Okay.
So I like that they had a lot of footage of the whole thing. They had live stream cameras inside.
They were obviously all mic'd because we had a lot of audio. That video of them like descending before the parachute blows up.
It's obviously they just are free falling it's like when you're if a plane just drops out of the sky and it's terrifying and you just hear the five women fucking screaming at the top of their lungs like shrieking it is unbelievably hysterical like bad for women but hysterical i thought we got so much so many funny moments jeff like greeting the pod as they landed on earth and then falling in a ditch like you you can't make this stuff up. Like you couldn't write something so funny.
So you know what? You know what? They put the ass in astronaut. I love it.
They did. After everything they did.
After all is said and done. I'm here for it.
Yeah. It's given me so much joy.
I hope it has. I want another trip.
Yeah. I think we could do better casting wise I definitely Katie brought a lot of the criticism just because she criticism follows her she's a heavily criticized figure and not for no reason I just want to say that yeah I think if it had been someone a little bit more well-respected yeah who even think of a pop star of like her elk like kesha lady gaga kesha that's that's not very kind of you to say lady gaga is of the same elk as katie perry at one point they were yes um do you think katie perry could headline coachella like would she be like right now just might be a little too like commercial for like Coachella to select her but she's definitely got the hits.
Kesha is weirdly involved in this also. Did you see the Wendy's drama? Oh that's not drama to me.
I thought that was fake. Why did Wendy's reply that? I know that their whole shtick is being like snarky on Twitter.
I think it had literally nothing to do with Kesha and just like no brands wanting to get involved. Yeah, I thought that was not cool.
That was like when that Marival like tweeted about Tom Sandoval, like stop it. They tweeted about, what did they say? Like along the lines of the same joke that's been running around on the internet.
We should have left Katie in space. Yeah, and I just feel like that's weird from a fast food company.
I agree. And any company in general, like, you want to kill her?

You want to kill Katie Perry?

It's funny when we say it.

You want to kill her.

You can't say that shit.

So you want to kill Katie Perry.

Great.

And then apparently Kesha posted drinking a Wendy's.

And I think they're completely unaffiliated.

And if anybody's wondering, I had a soda from Wendy's on Sunday.

What does that mean? I can't tell you. But do you have a soda from Wendy's after they said that they wanted to kill Katy Perry.
No, but I knew that they would be involved in this astronaut drama. And so I bought a soda to support.
I just want to say, like, usually Wendy's crushes it on social media. I didn't like that.
I didn't like it either. It gave me like an icky, weird feeling.
It is. It's weird.
So you're killers? Right. Is that what that what wendy's promotes killing of women who are out here achieving their dreams i want to get the exact tweet just to put a um uh like a a bow on it they said can we send her back okay that's better than can we leave her can we kill her worse but send her back like

with what provisions everyone's to what end everyone's already mad that they spent so much provisions yeah like is she a big timothy chalamet backpack full of snacks no and everyone's already mad that they wasted so much money on this so like you're gonna send her in her own capsule with enough food for a lifetime otherwise you're gonna kill her earth even further and we send Katy Perry into space

with nothing but a granola bar. That's what they're suggesting.
And then they're going to kill her. Well, that's sort of inferred, you know? Yeah.
So like on this one, like Olivia Wilde and Wendy's are not on the same side because they're advocating for spending more money, more resources. Yes.
Yes.

More waste.

And like Olivia Wilde doesn't chime in on things. Yeah.
So it's not very feminist of you, I just want to say, to like not ever chime in on shit. And the first thing you're going to like post an Instagram story about is like clowning on a bunch of women who are, you know, good natured.
Like they think they're doing something good. It's like stupid.
Well, I think for Olivia Wilde, like, she feels defensive of feminism and that this is being billed as a feminist endeavor right she feels the need to let him know like you're not welcome here well i have one thing to say to that shia shia shia shia shia yeah we saw the real olivia wilde and i've seen all i needed to say Also, Amy Schumer was joking about this as well. She said, guys, last second, they added me to space and I'm going to space.
She held up a Black Panther toy saying, I'm bringing this thing. It has no meaning to me, but it was in my bag.
And I was on the subway and I got the text and they were like, do you want to go to space? So I'm going to space. Thank you to everyone who got me here.
I'll you guys in space that's what this group was missing a funny person yeah like to really have brought it back down make it a little bit more relatable and palatable for america they needed a funny woman on there but amy schumer would have gotten just as much if not more hate than katie perry yeah she's also a heavily criticized person like i need to think of who who's like america's person that everybody loves that has to be a woman Nikki Glaser yeah she would have been great but like not like not a household name yet no we need Joan like that is something I would watch immune to criticism Joan on Blue Origin never never Blue Origin she would have never no And that's why she's a queen. Yeah.
I'm surprised Meghan Markle, there are a couple people where I'm like, oh, did you go to space? No, no, no. But you're the vibe.
Like Meghan Markle. It's very Montecito.
Kim. Kim.
And people who are friends with Lauren Sanchez. Yeah.
And Kim. That's what it is.
Yeah. Yeah.
Which is Katie. Mm hmm.
Katie Kat. Well, hopefully the story keeps unraveling.
I hope this isn't the last we discuss of it. And I hope that they think that this is a success and that they do it again.
I want more. Who's going next? Yep.
Are you ready for our next story? Mm hmm. Little book news because Serena Williams is executive producing.
Carrie Soto is back by Taylor Jenkins Reid. It is a tennis drama series in the work at Netflix.
So Carrie Soto is back. Oh, a series.
Yeah, it's a book by Taylor Jenkins Reid, TJR, Seven Husbands, Daisy Jones. I can't believe this is getting made before Seven Husbands.
I know, but they're trying to kill Seven Husbands. They're trying to send them into space.
They are. They're trying to send them into space.
Yep. But Netflix has taken in for development Carrie Soto, a series adaptation of TGR's best-selling tennis-themed book.
Fittingly, tennis great Sweet Williams is set to executive produce the project from fifth season, Picture Start, and a bunch of other industry terminology. I don't feel like Netflix has a great track record with book adaptations.

I think Amazon does it really well.

The Summer I Turned Pretty, Daisy Jones and Six.

Hulu has done it well.

Little Fires Everywhere, Big Little Lies on Macs.

I don't know.

Netflix.

Tell Me Lies.

Tell Me Lies.

Thank you.

Netflix, I can't think of a good one.

I think they didn't do a great job with Luckiest Girl Alive.

I don't think they did a good job with The Perfect Couple. I'll never admit it.
Do you agree, though? Come on. Yeah.
That one I know. They don't have.
So I have, like, very low hopes for this only because of Netflix's involvement. How is that? I know because it's made by different production companies.
And what does it have to do? Yeah, and they just, like, buy it. So maybe it's just, like, bad luck.
No, I know. But they stink.
I know. But maybe it's just coincidence.
Maybe. Hopefully.
And honestly, Serena Williams being a part of it is brilliant. When you're reading the book, there's clearly so many things that are inspired by Serena.
The author said, my incredible respect for the Williams sisters is part of what makes me interested in tennis. In an interview during the time of the book's release, 2022, I wouldn't write a book about tennis without the influence of just the absolute glory that has been their journey but also specifically serena's quest to get as many grand slam titles as she is right to do so that's very similar to carrie soto like does not care about being well like just like interested in being the greatest um the book was not my favorite same mostly because like reading about a tennis match like ping ping boom and then he hit it to the corner it's bleak hit it to the volley umpire I don't want to read that but definitely sounds like a better tv show yes it was not my favorite book either but I do think like a niche sport like people love I think it would be a good tv show if done right um I just cannot believe that like of all the things Taylor Jenkins Reid has like on viral for this is the one that's getting picked up first it was it's one of her successful books but it's not even close to her most at this point any book that she writes will be successful like Malibu Rising was successful I found it incredibly forgettable yes agreed same with Carrie Soto she's at a level now where all of her books are huge hits because of the ones that came before but the only one that's really missing is Seven Husbands.

Because Daisy Jones, crushed.

Was made, crushed.

Got the treatment you could only dream of.

True.

So we're just waiting for Seven Husbands.

Because what else is missing?

She has other books, but it's not obvious things.

She does.

I think One True Loves was one of her biggest before, even that's like not like one of these that's like historical fiction no no no no it's not it's like but it's actually it's a crazy book have you read it no she's married she has like this amazing marriage and her husband he goes like hiking or something I don't know um and he never comes back he like dies he's pronounced dead and so she's like absolutely devastated She moves on with her life. Years later, she finally meets someone, this great guy, Sam.
They're engaged. And all of a sudden, her husband is found.
He's been living on an icicle for five years. And he comes home being like, give me some sugar.
And the whole book is like, what does she do? And like her current fiance is like very supportive.

And he,

the husband's like mad being like,

are you kidding me?

Like I literally like,

like fought a polar bear and lived on an icicle to get back to you.

And like,

you're over here fucking this guy.

And so it's like,

which one will she choose?

It's actually a good premise for a book.

Do you want to know who she chooses?

Thrupple?

No.

Does she make a choice?

She does,

which I really appreciate.

It doesn't just end it.

It's not herself. And the future is bright.
No, Jackie, she makes a choice and it's not herself it's a person she did okay thank you yeah i won't spoil it but it's actually a very good book okay i'm not gonna read it now though because you just like told me everything so you could i did yeah if you want you could you want it no i don't want to spoil it for the listeners like you guys should read it it's one yeah who do you think she chooses new husband i know she's supposed to choose old but i think she chooses i texted it to you interesting yep just something i think about well this should be good and tennis is you know tennis is really having a moment in terms of aesthetics yep and i think that like if done right they should have page lorenz creative direct the show thousand percent because this could blow up the whole industry at the very least invite her to the premiere well of course but like she should be a consultant on the show like she has the the tennis eye the aesthetic yeah right it should be shot like that she should vlog the show and challengers like was a hit you love challengers i actually did not like challengers i thought it was the biggest waste of my time people loved it i couldn't believe it was nominated for any oscars a true testament to how far the oscars have fallen yeah but no tennis is definitely a vibe right now are you ready for our story? White Lotus star Amy Lou Wood is crying in public. Yeah.
It's a little misleading because everybody saw her crying in public. The paparazzi caught her.
They're like, she's upset about SNL because we literally were just talking about that. And she clarified on her Instagram.
She was like, no, I wasn't. I didn't think she was crying about SNL, but they just went off of the things that they know, which is that she was upset yesterday about SNL and today she's crying.

But she's setting the record straight, clarifying why she really was crying after the paparazzi caught her sobbing in public, which is just never like how you want to be seen by the

world in like the big week of your life.

No, I know.

And it's like you leave the house looking fabulous so many times and the paparazzi catches you

the one time you're crying.

She said, I actually wasn't crying about anything that the papers made out.

I was crying about something completely unrelated, she said.

Okay, I believe her.

Yeah.

But there's a lot going on with her and Walter

and everything, every story we have about her,

whether it's the SNL or the Instagram stuff,

it's making me believe what I'm hearing, you know?

Yeah, but I don't think for one second

she's crying in public about SNL.

No, no, no, no.

Like,

Thank you. Instagram stuff, it's making me believe what I'm hearing, you know? Yeah.

But I really, I don't think for one second she's crying in public about SNL.

Like I.

No, no, no, no.

Like, but why are you crying in public?

Like, not that you can't.

I mean, regular people do it all the time.

But like you're, this is really one of the biggest few weeks of her life.

On the heels of White Lotus, she's like constantly followed.

Like crying in public is always just like, are you okay?

Like we're going to worry about you.

Not to make everything about me, but just like a personal anecdote that I do feel is relevant here is last White Lotus season I think it was like a Friday night they air on Sundays and on Friday night I went out to dinner with Megan Fahey who played Daphne who was like in the White Lotus season everyone's it's just like the most fabulous character everyone was obsessed with her and when I tell you we went out for dinner and I've never seen somebody get like looked at more. And we got like a private members club so like nobody was asking for pictures but like it was so crazy to be in the restaurant.
Was that hard for you? No. I was like living for it.
Everyone was staring at us. I'm like oh yeah Megan I know her for years.
But they didn't get a picture of you guys like and send it to do. Oh so fucking true.
Next time you gotta take her to Times Square. Somewhere public.
Target, yeah. It was so, I've never seen, and not to be annoying, like I've been around famous people before, but like it was insane.
The waiters, everybody was whispering. So that's what Amy Lew Wood is currently experiencing.
And like, you're right. Like you have to know better.
Like you have to act. Unless you want us want us to know that you're crying in public in case this is a ploy.

So the Internet's like and the blinds like the consensus is that allegedly these two had some sort of onset affair.

He is married.

His wife found out.

Forced Walton to block her and ignore her.

And there's that's the reason why all of her likes have gone on liked on his pictures and and this is the fallout of that brief affair and she's heartbroken i guess well maybe they didn't even have an affair maybe she like had a serious crush on him and the wife is there like no scram yeah because i think if he had an affair like why would she be so forgiving the wife well he's a star you know today today no he's like he's on righteous gemstones architectural digest he has a nice house definitely i saw his architectural digest as well give some stuff yeah right and he's also on righteous gemstones which people are obsessed with you should watch that i started it i didn't like it i i also like i think when something we need to talk about it's a very smart thing that Max did is that so many, not so many, but like a couple of their key characters who people are obsessed with right now are Max stars, right? Like Carrie Coon is the Gilded Age. Walter Goggins is Righteous Gem.
So it was actually like a very smart, synergized moment. Yeah.
Good call. Yeah.
Well, get better, Amy. Yeah.
Our next story is seriously disturbing. You're going to hate're gonna hate it oh my god what but there's been a bit of an update in the gene hackman and wife death um in developments at their home so dead rodents were found at gene hackman's home during a risk assessment for the virus that killed his wife betsy so it has now been determined that betsy died of natural causes linked to Hantavirus pulmonary syndrome caused by Hantavirus, which is a virus that is transmitted via rodent droppings and urine.
So they did like an environmental survey of his property. So what, they were like living in filth? Yes, rodent feces were found in three detached garages, two casitas and three sheds during a home site environmental assessment conducted in March.
a live rodent dead rodent in a rodent feces were found in three detached garages, two casitas, and three sheds during a home site environmental assessment conducted in March. A live rodent, dead rodent, and a rodent nest were also found in three garages on the property.
Risk assessment testing was carried on on March 5th. They had said that there wasn't rodents in the main house, in the primary house.
However, the report found that rodents had access to eight other buildings on that property. There were also rodent sightings in two vehicles as well as live traps elsewhere on the property so she contracted this virus that led to her untimely death because they were living in some sort of squalor I believe or because they had like a rodent infestation that they didn't handle and then he died she is his caretaker so then he died several days later from a combination of severe heart disease high blood pressure and alzheimer's you know maybe the alzheimer's probably stopped taking his meds oh my god what a fucking terrible story terrible every like there's always like a few updates about it like you know they were found mummified like just these awful things and it just gets worse and worse oh and he's in that house for a couple of days,

so confused and his wife is dead.

And he has children.

Well, I think that's a question a lot of people ask.

Like, how does nobody check in on your elderly father?

Right.

And like, not only, like, he died several days later

and then lay there dead for two weeks.

And then he was found.

Right.

And nobody called. So terrible.
So terrible. I feel like vomiting.
In the words of the great, great late Gene Hackman, I feel like vomiting. He didn't even know.
I knew that living in filth wasn't good for your health, but I didn't know you could actually contract a virus and die. Yeah.
So, very sad. I'm okay to move on move on i feel nosh yeah our fifth and final before into your toasters which is brought to you by hill house home one of our favorite sponsors they invented the viral nap dress which has the most flattering and comfortable fit with their signature smocking i loved them before i got pregnant i have a whole new appreciation for hill house dresses like oh my god the only thing I feel normal in.
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because he shared a video of himself singing his song One Day.

And then he shared some backstory,

a little beautiful backstory from the song.

He said, guess what super famous singer wrote this song with me?

And you know One Day, right?

One day.

Well, my life I've been waiting for,

I've been praying for,

for the people to say.

And if you guys don't know who Mati Siahu is, don't feel bad um but he's like kind of a core they know that one song but he is like the first last and only successful jewish rapper actually drake is like religious jew yeah he raps about like judaism he's like a huge figure in our community and that song one day years ago was a huge hit. Yeah.
So now he's telling a little backstory behind the song that I think you'll find shocking. Just wait.
And I just want to see if he had one other song. Oh, King Without a Crown.
That's pretty popular, right? It's not. I think it is.
Who wrote it? Bruno Mars co-wrote one day with me, he said. He said, of course he did.
Here's the story. I had turned in my Light album, which was based on the Seven Beggars story of Rabbi Nachman.
There was a new label head. Okay.
What album is it? There was a new label head at Epic Records, and when I turned it in, she said there were no hits. She asked if I'd be willing to record two more songs.
She was right. She asked if I'd be willing to record two more songs.
i had been working on the album day and night for a year but i told her i was willing i had just been on tour with an artist from canada named how do you pronounce this guy k-n-a-n-a-n he sings waving flag k-n-a-a-n yeah k-n-a-n okay with no whatever who had been playing a song called waving flag i told her okay it's a girl i told her i wanted to write and record with whoever helped him with that song and flew out to la the next day okay no kanan is a man okay jackie just get to the story i told bruno who wrote waving flag i wanted i didn't know that either yeah i wanted a no woman no cry peace anthem and we went to work at some point i left to get dinner which had to be kosher so the other side of town when i came back bruno had pretty much rewritten most of the tune and though i was already moving past my chabad stage of messianic reality and into the nachman ideas of god's madness permeating the world i knew it was undeniable mashiach now may we burn up our egos like chetz and find fulfillment and humility, our matzah. Break out of Mitzrayim and learn from Moshe instead of Pharaoh.
A hard heart is the path to suffering. Peace and love and may God, may the God of Israel set us all free.
May our hostages come home to their loved ones and our enemies leave their hard-hearted ways or be destroyed like Pharaoh. So Bruno Mars wrote one day.
Thank you so much for that to passover we learned that bruno mars wrote i had no idea that bruno mars was like doing the work before because that's way before he got famous that song came out when we were like in middle school yeah that he was songwriting for other people he was definitely doing his other songs he like had some duets right like um what did he like like start doing? Like, did he have a song with B.O.B.? Remember that guy? Who didn't have, of course, Taylor Swift. Nothing on you.
They ain't got nothing on you, baby. Nothing on you, baby.
They might say hi. Yeah.
If you like it makes sense like when you're supremely talented like that like there are certain people like sia you know you were always finding out like hit songs that they had a hand in yeah so i thought this was a beautiful story and bruno and like that's really an anthem for like peace and love and that it's so Bruno

Rudy himself wrote it while Matisse Yahoo was out getting kosher dinner hysterical stuff I like how he's like make himself a victim in the caption I had to go across town so Jewish it's like you could get it you could have gotten it delivered or like you're in a studio at epic yeah they would drive, Jackie. There just wasn't Uber Eats.

No, and like you could have

gotten

like it you could have gotten it delivered or like you're in a studio at epic yeah they would drive jackie there just wasn't uber eats like no and like you could have gotten like one of the pas to go get you lunch like he's just a victim sorry i think yeah i think this is sort of a calling to highlight the lack of kosher restaurants in canada in canada um let's dive into dear toasters is our weekly advice segment where Jackie and I try to help out three swirlies in need what nothing just out of breath or like I'm gonna like this is disturbing stuff no no the former okay maybe we'll help out two swirlies in need It's getting so hard for me to like do things. Do you want to email it to me? Just give me a second.
Just email it to me. Do you think that maybe we could table it? Like I'm really not feeling good.
Yeah. I'd be happy to.
Like I did the fast five. Like I'm really not okay.
Like I'm fine. I'm fine you guys.
I just like it's.

It's too much.

I'm not.

It's too much for me.

Like I'm really.

Like I have to go to the bathroom.

I think you have to listen to your body.

And all of us globally have to listen to your body as well.

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