We Bring The Boom with Liz Woods and The Costco Guys' AJ: Friday, June 27th, 2025

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Good morning, girlies.

It's the toast.

It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.

It's your favorite show, the fast-five things you need to know.

We'll start your day off swirly.

It's the toast.

I sound amazing.

Welcome back to the toast.

Happy Friday.

Cause we are fucking celebrating Liz.

We are celebrating Liz because Lizard P is back in the studio with me.

It is our last day of Jackson Friends.

We have a banger episode for you guys.

Liz and I are endeavoring to bite off a lot today.

A lot.

Fast Five Stories.

Fast Five Stories.

Love Island Recap.

Dear Toasters.

And then we have a guest interview that I recorded yesterday with AJ from the Costco guys that is just going to make your day.

So if we can keep this episode to two hours, I would be very impressed by us.

Same here.

We have a lot to do.

We have a lot to do, but I feel like everyone deserves a little Friday treat.

Like we're going out of Jackson Friends with a boom.

With a boom.

Five.

Well, oh, I don't want to spoil it.

Don't spoil, but I think we could say it's with five big booms.

Five big booms, yeah.

For sure.

And then on Monday, Claudia is back with me before we head head off on summer break.

I know people were like, wait, I thought Claudia is doing the last show.

The last show was Monday because Monday is still June.

June 30th.

June 30th.

Yeah.

A great day.

Lizard, welcome back to the show.

Thank you.

I'm so happy to be doing a second show.

I feel like yesterday I was like diving in and I don't really podcast ever.

So I was sort of getting my feet wet and now I feel a lot more.

Like yesterday I had to take a quarter Klonopin because I was nervous.

And so today I feel like I can just be myself and relax and converse.

Yes.

And I feel like yesterday we got the formalities out of the way.

You know, what do you think about Taylor and Travis?

Who are you?

Where do you hail from?

Kylie and Timothy.

Kylie and Timothy.

We didn't do Blake and Justin yet, and let's see if we can get away with not doing it.

Yeah.

But we're certainly not going to do it at this moment.

Now, tell me about this clonopin.

Is that a beta blocker?

No.

What's a beta blocker?

Beta blockers are, I don't think their primary use is for anxiety, but they happen to help.

Klonopin is a,

I don't know, it's in the.

Like a Xanax.

It's like a Xanax.

It's like another form of Xanax, as far as I know.

But you go Klon over over Xan?

Yes.

Klonopin doesn't make me feel as it doesn't make me feel drowsy.

Right.

Because the idea of like me taking a Xanax before doing the toast seems counterintuitive.

Yes, you want to be bubbly and energetic.

But I was nervous.

And also even when I'm excited and not nervous, I get nervous anxiety.

Like when I would go to camp

as a child, actually it's departure day for a lot of those or arrival day for a lot of those campers.

Convoyage campers.

I used to throw up every like every time I was on the drive to camp, not because I was nervous after my first summer, but because because i was so excited like i would just throw up yeah did you feel like you were gonna throw up yesterday on the toast no thank goodness yeah that would have been like the first time for first time for everything that would have been yeah okay well i'm glad that you're feeling great and so you didn't take the clon today no no i'm i'm ready to go you're feeling like yourself again yes yeah you could say that so last night we both watched watch love island separately in our warring quarters yes so we will be recapping i haven't even spoken about it with you like on the drive over here i don't know how you're feeling i don't even know if i saw like stories with your thoughts i wrote down my my notes on my phone.

Oh, okay.

Perfect.

And we are going to do the fast five today.

I actually had a really busy morning.

So I was like, Liz, you want to take a stab at choosing?

So I think most, I think we're five for five.

I think like Lizard chose the stories, which I think is perfect because you're the story queen.

You were also shifting liability.

So if people don't like the stories, it's like, well, you guys can come after.

The thing is, people never like the stories.

I'm so hard into that criticism because you chose the stories today and tell them.

how it's not as easy as it looks.

There is a dearth.

Like I said yesterday.

And today's not even a bad day.

Ana went to our left Vogue.

Right, but that's it.

That's one.

So there is a dearth of stories and all of the publicists, if they're not already on vacation, they're on vacation.

There's like the Lauren Sanchez Jeff Bezos wedding, of course, but I feel like we said what we needed to say.

We spoke about it yesterday.

We spoke about it the day before and we're going to talk about it on Monday.

So like, let's have a break, yeah?

Right.

So the stories, if they're a little silly,

come to me, not to Jackie.

No, but you can come to me.

Like, I'm prepared to take it because I know, and I've been in the trenches for years, but I do feel like now maybe like you'll have my back not that you didn't like not that anyone was asking me like where do you stand on Jackie's story picking abilities but if they did you'd say leave her alone I think I really tried to get like what you guys go for there were a couple of things that people were talking about on the internet that don't deserve like a story spot Lil Bieber even though I was I thought maybe he listened to the toast yesterday because it's like oh he was inspired by Lil Bow Wow Lil Romeo and Lili right exactly right they made an Instagram handle for their child I have no No, no, like that was Justin Bieber changing his Instagram handle to Lil Bieber.

It only had like 200K, or was that 200 million?

I think it was Justin Bieber.

Hold on.

Yeah.

Okay, maybe it is a story now.

I thought they made an Instagram for the baby.

The reason I didn't pick it is because it's hard to talk about.

It's hard to talk about.

And there's never clarity.

Lil Bieber, Justin Bieber.

Oh, 200 million.

Yeah.

Not 200K.

I just assumed that was a K.

Yeah.

Oh, okay.

Lil Bieber.

Lil Bieber.

No, I have no thoughts until further notice.

Like until we find out what this means.

Yes.

I'm kind of fatigued on JB.

Yes, me too.

Yeah.

JB squared.

Yeah.

JB squared.

Yeah.

Who's the other?

The other Justin Baldoni.

Baldoni.

Oh, my gosh.

Okay, let's just get into it.

Like, because I feel like it's a rite of passage for Jackson friends for you to tell me where you stand on Justin B.

Blake.

I don't have anything new to say.

You guys really do a good job at it.

You're more of a Jackson Claude.

We're so, we really come at it differently.

I'm more of a Claude, but one thing I will say is when I'm talking about pop pop culture phenomena like this, I often think that the simplest answer is the right one and that people and all of their conspiracies can go a little nuts.

The issue with this case is that neither side is that simple.

Neither allegation is that simple.

It's like on the one hand, you have a person who's alleging that these people were maybe trying to like steal a film from under him.

And then the other side is alleging, you know, these really serious things.

And I thought Jared Freed talked about it really well, which was like, when you, when there's conversations of like sexual harassment, it's, it sort of stops being fun, pop culture, fodder.

But it was definitely eye-opening as it relates to like the astro turfing.

I think that

wherever you fall, it sort of like opened people's eyes to that corner of the internet.

So that's my way of dodging talking about my like my true opinion.

So Claude.

Yeah.

And well, you could say it's Claude.

It's also just diplomatic.

Yeah, I understand.

And I understand like not wanting to go down with that sinking ship.

Like I'll go down for stuff and I'll die on hills, but certainly not that one.

I don't even understand even though you guys i'm loving blake brown beauty so am i i've been spritzing my hair with like the hair spritzer because it's a little less committal than a perfume i like the bergmont wooded one and because we have guests every day in the studio i like and i give everyone a hug like i want them to like smell something nice not not nice so i've been using it and i like it and i like break brown beauty what can i say it's great um i also was sent pr you get the whole like the kit i got i think, everything.

Like, look at the champagne, the mask,

the mousse.

I use the mask, the mousse, every time I blow dry my hair, and I also really like it.

What do you use a mousse for?

Actually, Claudia told me that when she blow dries her hair, she uses a mousse and color wow.

And as soon as I got that, I switched it.

It's just supposed to hold the curl better.

I mean, I don't know how it will hold up in Florida.

I don't know how anything holds up in Florida.

I like putting stuff in my hair before I blow dry it.

I didn't realize that's what mousse was for.

I thought mousse, I used mousse when I was like in middle school to scrunch my hair.

Or you were trying like slick your hair back, maybe?

No, I've never used a mousse for that.

Only like for like a wet look.

And so what do you use in your hair when you're blow-drying it?

I rotate between the Wella spray,

the ColorWow money.

I don't know what it's called.

Money, give me the money spray.

I have a couple other sprays that are like pre-blow-dry heat-protectant sprays.

Yeah, so I use the mousse as a hold and the spray to help with defrizz, which which like it does nothing when I'm down here.

My hair just like is not used to this weather at all.

But generally, I'm an advocate for the Blake Brown mousse and the ColourWow coat, dream coat.

Dre that's the shellac?

Yes.

That I love.

That's in my hair today.

That's but I put that on dry hair.

Okay, we're not talking about the same thing anymore.

If the dream coat is like what you put on before you before you blow dry your hair, the spray bottle.

Oh.

Oh, okay.

I don't think I use that.

And I should.

It's good.

I love pre blow-dry stuff, so I will use.

She also sent like the Wonder Potion.

That's what I've been using pre-blow dry for Blake Brown.

I don't think I got that.

Maybe it came out after I received my PR.

Because you got it sooner than me.

But it's so weird that they sent it to me like this month when I'm like completely, you know, off Team Blake.

Maybe they saw that as an opportunity.

No, it's genius because every time we come up, like I have to say how much I love Blake Brown Pootie.

Yeah.

And then Brandon's.

The things can be true.

Yes.

Like, I think she could be wrong about this, but right about that.

Do you think she's wrong about this?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm like team pretty here first.

No, no, no.

I jumped ship like publicly

a while ago.

I'm no longer like with her.

I'm not, hashtag, I'm not with her.

Okay.

I'm not like with him, but I guess like I'm more with him.

I don't know.

I think he was like more wronged in totality.

Okay.

Totality.

So I guess we could get into the stories because we have a very busy day.

Yes.

And we'll just like circle back to Lizard P Tings.

Please do.

As they emerge.

Sure.

Shall we?

Yes, I'm ready.

Okay, great.

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Ana Wintora is stepping down as the editor-in-chief of Vogue after 37 years.

So, influential style icon Ana Wintora is stepping down as the editor-in-chief of Vogue's U.S.

edition after 37 years of running the fashion world with her trailblazing vision and icy perfectionism, a source close to the magazine's owner, Condé Nas, told the Post on Thursday.

So, she announced that she's seeking a new head of editorial content for American Vogue during a staff meeting Thursday morning, according to a company spokesperson.

She will retain some of her power, though, at the publication by hanging on to two key positions, the spokesperson said.

She will remain Condé Nask's global chief content officer and Vogue's global editorial director, with the magazine's new editor-in-chief reporting directly to her.

Well,

I mean, her tenure predates me.

Like, she's been doing this for 37 years, and I think she helped to make the Met Gala what it is, which I think is like one of the biggest accomplishments.

And I also think she obviously helped to platform all of these designers that now we know today.

Her influence really can't be overstated in that way.

I actually think that the devil wears product probably got that right as it relates to like that famous speech of Meryl Streep talking about Cerulean Blue.

Yes, the colors.

I think that that's really true.

I think that like that,

the editorial stuff does ultimately dictate what you see in mass markets.

And I think that's great.

I will say I have been, as a passive consumer of Vogue, like less impressed with their content over the past, I don't know, five years.

I think it's a lot, even just the covers have been a little bit not inspiring.

And like, for instance, when they picked Hailey Bieber and there was that whole saga, the actual cover I thought was like kind of meh.

And that's just like a small example of how I think they need to do a shakeup.

Now, if she retains some power, I don't know how much of a shakeup there will be.

I don't know what this means, like who the next person will be, but I think maybe they are in need of a shake-up.

So this could be good for Vogue.

Yeah, I think it could be time.

I also wouldn't have have been surprised if she like never left.

I just hope that they make like a strong choice, you know, because it feels like on the one hand, it's like one foot in, one foot out.

And then it's like, okay, so they'll bring someone in as the global head, as the editorial director of Vogue, but she's still the global head of Vogue.

So like at the end of the day, she's their boss.

And whatever she says about the covers, like it's still going to have Anna's thumbprint.

Whereas I'm ready for a new era.

Like it didn't have to be today.

It could have been in a few years, could have been a few years ago.

But I think fresh is always good.

And I agree with you that the last few years have been less than impressive.

Like, I think British Vogue puts American Vogue to shame these days in terms of like

the creative direction of the covers and also the selection of people on the covers.

So, I think there's a lot of room for growth and

new broom sweeps clean.

So, it'll just be like very exciting, but she will still be in this world in a big way.

And also, she has a big job at Condé NAS.

So, it's like they're not going to go too sideways because she is still going going to be like approving or not approving the big decisions.

Right.

And I think she probably helped to establish like the blueprint that they have now in terms of like the type of people that they pick, what type of stories they pick, what they share on social media.

So whether that's like good or bad, you know, you want there to be a change.

It might be one foot in, one foot out.

Did you think of Jacqueline Folet when you saw this story?

No, I didn't think of it.

I really thought of British Vogue and like Edward Ennifel and him like putting Anna to shame.

But I guess this is like a Jacqueline Folet situation.

And I do hope, I hope that the person who comes in, not that I expect that I would know them, but what I'm looking for, like I kind of want it to be someone young, just so that it's someone who could have a 40-year career at Vogue.

Right.

Like, and someone who can really make it their own.

I don't know that that's what they're going to do, though.

I feel like it might just be like someone that Anna has worked with for the last 37 years, like Stanley Tucci coming up.

But he would have been a good choice.

Stanley Tucci.

Stanley Tucci in the movie.

In the movie.

Like, if we're looking at this, like, Devil Wears Prada, like, I think the Stanley Tucci character would have been a good choice.

Let me ask you a question because you read Andre Leon Talley's book, right?

And

he remembering that about me.

He passed away a couple years ago.

Yeah.

Do you think that if he were alive, he would have been a person to take the helm or he sort of distanced himself before he passed away?

Well, he did distance himself, but I feel like even in terms of his skill set, like this person needs to be like not just like someone with an eye and a creative, but also like a logistical, tactical person.

And I feel like people like Andre and also Grace, like they are the artists.

And I don't know that this is a job for an artist only because you also need to be a business person.

Not that they don't also have those skills, but sometimes like you got to let the artist be artists.

Right.

She's, she was a curator in a lot of ways.

Like she was the one selecting the art and making sure it all sort of worked.

You're also making business decisions about like ad sales and content.

And it's not just like the fun of like, this is beautiful.

Let's make something beautiful.

Right, right.

Yeah.

So I don't know enough about like that industry who works for Condé Nast who would like take up the helm, but I'm really curious to see who it is.

Yeah, I'm really curious too.

I don't expect that I'll know their name, but when I see like their body of work and like their experience, I hope to be impressed and excited.

But I think in general, even though Vogue like lacks a lot in terms of the magazine and the cover stars and all of that, I feel like their online presence is fine.

Like, you know, I feel like they're staying abreast and afloat.

Like they have their get ready with me's with the celebrities and the what's in my bags.

And, like, do you really think that there's so much more that they could or should be doing?

Or you feel like they are getting left behind on social media?

No, I don't.

I think they have to sort of toggle between like being social media conscious because that's just what everybody does, no matter how much you try to avoid it.

Like, you have to play into the Instagram and the TikTok and the people that are popular there.

But I also think it just, they have to be faster, both with the covers and with social.

Like the fact that they, like you said, British Vogue seems to always pick people who are just like having their moment right now.

And I think something about American Vogue, it feels like they're always a little bit delayed when they, when they're picking their talent.

Yeah, and I also feel like British Vogue, like, picks people and that gives them like a stamp of approval.

So even if they're not at like the mountain peak right now, like A-list forever, like them being on British Vogue, like means something and could like change their career a little bit.

Whereas American Vogue should be like that too.

You shouldn't have to be like around the block for so long before you get the cover.

Like, why don't you let us know who we should be influenced by

long before they've been influencing us for years?

Haley Bieber.

Right.

That's a good point.

You're sort of saying the inverse of what I'm saying, which is like, actually, it shouldn't even be like a delayed person that we already like.

It should be like somebody new or a rising star or like someone in fashion.

I think they could do better at like showing us what's in fashion as opposed to trying to like mirror what exists in pop culture.

Right.

Like the obvious choices, even like with Alex Earl on the

Turkish cover of Vogue.

If that had been American Vogue, which I never would expect Vogue to put Alex Earl on the cover because of the way that Vogue is, but like if Vogue put Alex Earl on the cover, like that would change her career, like that would

like change the trajectory.

And that's what I feel like it used to be.

Like you would find people, whether it was models or celebrities, and like you would give they Vogue is one of those outlets, but even like a Calvin Klein campaign where it's like, and now you've made it.

And I just feel like they could be doing more of that.

It doesn't have to be Alex Earl in particular, because I think people would riot in the streets if she were on the cover of Vogue.

But I'm just saying, like, if that would just change things as opposed to just choosing like the obvious choice who this doesn't move the needle for.

Agreed.

Even Kim.

Like, by the time Kim got on the cover, like, she'd been Kim.

I agree, except for I remember those photos of her and Kanye and North at the time was like so major.

And maybe it was because like I was such a big fan that I was like, she got Vogue.

And maybe the Vogue readers didn't feel that way.

I'm sure they didn't uh but i i don't know i thought that was like such an amazing moment in time for sure but by the time kim kardashing got a solo vogue cover she was it's like kind of like wait she didn't already have one right she had already sort of ascended and even the kim kanye north photos like i remember they were not pargy

they weren't pargy that is true i actually i never understood why they sort of made kim look the way that she did why did they say

why did they do that to her yeah yeah I'm not sure.

They don't like her.

Well, they didn't.

Right.

I think there's room for improvement is all I'll say, but like, she's obviously have a a destroyed career.

She's changed the fashion industry.

But I look forward.

I always like, you know, I like change, but I also like strong decisions, not just like, well, someone's being promoted as the interim editor-in-chief.

And then a few years later, like they slip in someone and they sink.

Right.

The Kenning, the Ken Jennings, my embiolic shtick.

Exactly.

Yeah.

If they had chosen Ken from the jump, it would have been very exciting.

Agreed.

And I think he's, I'm a huge Jeopardy fan and I actually think he's doing great.

It took me a while to sort of warm to him, but like, I, I think he's killing it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Big Ken fan.

So.

And he was always the obvious choice.

He was.

He was always the obvious choice.

And he, he sort of lacked in the beginning what Alex took a long time to develop, which was this like, he would not bully, but he would sort of like make fun of the guests in a way that was like very warm and wholesome.

And Ken can be kind of stiff.

So I could see why it would be hard for him to do that.

And I think he's starting to really find his footing.

And Jeopardy, like you're doing a great job.

If anyone was wondering what my opinion was.

Great.

I'm so glad we can, after five years, say that.

Yeah.

After like, when we should have been able to say it like a year later, like, no time wasted.

And like, Aaron Rodgers was up for the bid.

I think Aaron Rodgers was ever going to host Jeopardy.

He's still playing football, by the way.

Yeah.

Right.

Maybe if he had been the host, like this whole Jets Steelers thing would have, it never would have happened because he would have

taken the Jeopardy role.

So him as the host of Jeopardy is an insane concept.

Like maybe when he's 70, but even still, I think he's going to be like in the gym.

Or on his trip to the house.

Or ayahuasca.

Yeah, exactly.

So this is just exciting to see who will take up the mantle.

What do you think it will mean for the Met Gala?

I feel like she could still be involved in the Met Gala because it's due to her role at the Costume Institute.

Yeah, I think the Met Gala sort of runs itself, honestly.

Like there's a formula for who gets invited.

And sometimes it's confusing.

Why didn't this person get invited?

Why did this one?

But I think it sort of runs itself.

And maybe she does help to decide those last people.

Like, like, who's going to choose the theme?

I feel like that she was choosing themes.

Was she?

Was she the curator of the exhibit?

No, but I feel like she was working, like, she was working with the exhibit because, like, whatever the theme is, is the theme of the gala.

Right.

And what, and it should be famous couples throughout history.

It should.

But they would never.

Maybe, yeah.

Maybe the next person is a Josie Grossi stan.

Or a toaster.

Or a toaster.

Probably not.

I don't think the twain meet.

I don't think so.

And that's, you know, for the best.

We're very commercial around here.

We're not super editorial.

Yeah.

So we'll just pick out this blue from a pile of stuff.

This blue, actually.

We're both wearing Toast merch today.

Oh, yeah.

A couple of fashion icons.

Yeah, I'm so excited to wear mine.

Yeah.

I actually haven't worn like a merch had like a sweatsuit date, but then you were wearing your merch today.

So I was like, okay, I'll wear my merch.

What fits this?

Our next story,

some Golden Bachelor controversy, because Golden Bachelor star Mel Owens, who is 66, is facing backlash after admitting that he will cut any women over 60.

So Mel Owens Owens admitted he's not interested in dating anyone over 60.

He said in a podcast interview earlier this month that if they're over 60, I'm cutting them.

He added that he was frank with producers during the casting process, telling them he only wanted women aged 45 to 60, just being honest.

He said, this is not the silver bachelor.

This is the golden bachelor.

They've got to be fit because I stay in shape and work out and stuff.

And I told producers to try to stay away from the artificial hips and the wigs.

Oh my God, like nasty.

It is nasty.

That's really nasty.

I feel like

what?

Like, this is the golden.

I didn't know that you could get older than, like, he's talking about silver bachelor.

Yeah.

On the one hand, I actually do like a bachelor who wants to like shake things up and stand on business and just like say something a little crazy because it gets people talking.

And it is sort of an interesting conversation of like, do, do age preferences, are they still like allowed when you're a certain age?

And people do this all the time.

Like when you're on Hinge or something like that, you can filter out ages.

And it usually it relates to at least from my perspective um like if you're a woman in your 30s and you want someone like age appropriate you want someone who's like ready to settle down or get married I haven't heard about like older people having age preferences I think he could have said this more diplomatically and said like I want someone who's who likes an active lifestyle I think he could have kept this to himself and eliminated women over 60 or who seemed over 60 and had an artificial hip.

And no one would have been sitting there doing the math being like, he eliminated the women over 60.

Like it just like comes off nasty the way that he said it and maybe he's trying to drum a buzz and I hadn't heard of Mel Owens before and it doesn't make me like necessarily want to watch the Golden Bachelor more than I already did, but it gets the people going.

But like Bachelor typically stays away from, they don't court controversy.

They literally like run scared.

That's true.

I wouldn't be surprised if they fire him.

Yeah.

I actually, I wondered, I kept reading this article thinking maybe it says like whether he has kids.

Has he been single for a long time?

Because I think people were tweeting like, well, it shows why he's single if he has this sort of attitude about age.

And also, like, who are you?

You're 66.

Right.

It does, I think he, he, I think anyone, like, not to judge or anything, but here I go.

Like, I think that if he hasn't been, like, married in his lifetime, or like, I don't know about kids because you never know, but like, if he hasn't had, like, a marriage at 66, like, that's a red flag.

Yeah.

And then he's coming on the bachelor to get married at 66.

Like, no, you don't, by 66, you are who you are and you're not going to get married.

So I would imagine he has like a past life, but maybe he's single at 66 because he's not being open to women his age.

Right.

So not married, red flag.

Also divorced.

Why were you divorced?

But it's like, so he wouldn't date Ramona Singer?

Maybe, how old is Ramona Singer?

Ramona's in her 60s.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'd like to care for that.

I feel like sometimes age is just a number.

Like there could be a woman in her 50s who is older than a woman in her, like, you know, everybody ages differently and takes care of themselves differently.

Ramona is 68 years old.

Yeah.

And you're saying that you wouldn't date her?

Yeah, I think he's he not only is he being controversial and frankly rude, but he also is like failing to sort of

realize he's being short-sighted.

Right.

Like you said, an active 65-year-old is maybe healthier or more, you know, what he wants than a not active 40-year-old.

I don't know.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I feel like this is not a good look for him and it's a little rude and he could have gotten away.

Like you can have your preferences.

There are kinder ways to communicate them and then also sometimes you could just like keep that shit to yourself yeah

and what's he gonna go around asking everyone's age on the first night i guess he was telling producers not don't even bring these women to okay but like what if there's a 63 year old who's like crushing it they like the producers come like groveling over to him like this woman

take a look at her i think you'll like her but then him just being like i don't know i just feel like

Yeah,

yes, in general, you want someone like maybe a few years younger than you are.

If he's like really kept up up with himself over the years, he might see himself as like a fifty-five.

So I can understand why in his mind he's like, okay, I I want someone who's in this range, but like to be so exclusive.

Like 60.

When's your birthday out of here?

Like I think that's a little insane.

And I would expect a little more maturity from the Golden Bachelor who has historically been a P jom.

Like this is a role for a P jom.

Is it?

Is it not?

Well, didn't those two get divorced after three months?

I don't remember where they got divorced.

I know they tried to cancel Jerry because of the hot tub, but why did they get divorced, him and Teresa?

It wasn't working.

But was it because he wasn't a PGM or they just like weren't a fit?

I'm not sure.

To get, to me, to go on the Golden Bachelor, be married for three months and then get divorced is like

psychotic feeling.

Why even bother?

No, that was a really bad for the brand.

Yeah.

So maybe he's trying to, I don't know, make a name for the brand in a different way and he

shoots and misses.

Yeah.

Well, okay.

We'll see how it goes for him.

I wish him luck.

what was the deal with him we now we talked about him i think he's like a former football player or something oh really yeah mel owens

yeah he used to play for the rams he

what let me i'm trying to see if he had a wife it's not coming up so

red flag

Yeah, no one with artificial hips.

That's making headlines.

Yikes.

Yikes, Mel, do better.

Also, like, I don't know much about artificial hips, but I feel like if you're someone who has an artificial hip, it's because you live and you want to have a healthier lifestyle.

Well, I've heard that a hip replacement is life-changing.

And you're like, you know, robotic in the way you're able to move in a good way.

Like, you've got 360 motion.

Yeah.

You could put these kids to shame.

So he's not thinking clearly, clearly.

Right.

I feel like he has a stigma.

Like, look at Chris Jenner after she got her hip.

And her face.

And her, he would, he wouldn't take Chris

newly on life.

Really?

Maybe they'll collab again.

Because remember, she collabed with the previous one on.

I wonder how she feels about this.

It's an insult to her.

Yeah.

Storyline idea for the Kardashians.

Our next story, speaking of artificial body parts, Leanne Rhimes' teeth fell out mid-concert.

So country singer Leanne Rhimes bravely displayed her showmanship when her teeth popped out while performing mid-concert.

She addressed the accident in a video uploaded to Instagram where she warned all her future concert goers.

If you catch them, please return them.

She was performing at a casino in Washington when she felt a pop while singing her 1996 hit One Way Ticket.

She said her front dental bridge fell out and proceeded to run off stage to fix them before completing the rest of the show.

This is a state of the union on false teeth.

Everybody has them, but it's, I guess, surprising to me that hers would fall out because don't most people get veneers?

Yeah.

Which are like glued onto your teeth.

Yeah.

But then I think there is a case for dentures.

Like at a certain point, you know, if the fake teeth are not adapting to your mouth and you just like sort of want a clean house, like let's just let it rip.

I think though, if you're a singer, wouldn't you want the option where like the teeth couldn't fall out?

But what if she, I'm sure she's, I feel like if you get to this place, and how old is she?

That 50s?

Yeah.

Oh, young enough for mellow ones.

Um,

if you get to this place where like you have a rack.

Yeah.

Like you've been through a lot along the way.

And I have to imagine that like permanent veneers haven't worked for her.

Okay.

And I think probably her dental team has has considered these things.

And you know what?

Like it's it's fun and funny.

So I think it it works for her although maybe it was embarrassing in the moment.

Yeah.

And then when they fall out like on stage at a casino, do you put that back in your mouth?

I don't know.

What's the or you just like sanitize them?

Also, like, can you still sing without your teeth?

I don't know.

I think you rely a lot on the like linguistics depends on your teeth.

So I don't know.

She could hum.

Maybe she could yodel.

Hit him with a yodel.

Yeah, Leon.

That is her song.

Oh, did you watch The Four Seasons?

No, did you?

Claudia, I think, recommended it on the show.

I started it, and there's just, I honestly think you would really like it.

I'm just echoing that.

And I'm thinking of it because there's a scene where one of the characters is singing.

Did she sing You're Still the One I Want?

Or is that Giant Twain?

Okay, this is like these two are those two are the same.

Yeah, and Jewel, once you throw Jewel in there.

I don't know one Jewel song.

I think you probably do.

Maybe I've heard it, but I, yeah, these are just like Jewel and Leanne rhymes, I feel like, are really similar.

Shania Twain, to me, like, she has

eclipsed

this trope, and then also Cheryl Crowe.

It's just a lot.

All very similar.

Very similar ladies.

Well,

the dental.

She stands out with her dental teeth and also her Brandi Glanville drama and Eddie Sibrian.

Oh, yeah.

That's right.

yeah yeah well she she took an l here but it seems like she she handled it very well because i would never go on stage again yeah and i i don't know how i would handle it but she like drew attention to it she did an instagram story and then like i think that also made it like more buzzy because maybe if it like fell out at a casino in washington like people might not have told the press right like could have been our little secret don't worry leanne we'll keep your secret

i love that yeah i think that i think that it was handled well um

good luck leanne on future endeavors.

I wonder if this will change the scope of her dental work.

Yeah, oh, her dentist is getting a nasty call.

Hopefully no one like finds that.

Like no one doxes the dentist.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's not his fault.

It's not his fault.

Our next story, some crazy news.

Brad Pitt's home was burglarized after thieves entered through a front window and ransacked his property, police says.

So police say.

Brad Pitt's home in the Los Feliz neighborhood of LA has allegedly been burglarized.

The alleged burglary occurred at approximately 10.30 p.m.

on Wednesday, June 25th.

The LAPD told people the suspects broke into the residence via a front window, ransacked the location, then fled the location with miscellaneous property.

There were three suspects.

They have yet to be publicly identified.

He was not home at the time of the burglary.

This seems so unavoidable when you're someone in the public eye and people know that you're not.

home.

And it's it's scary.

It happens with football players when they're at games.

Yeah.

It obviously happens with, I mean, it happens with like the Beverly Hills people all the time, like when they're home.

This could have been worse.

He could have been home.

It could have been much scarier.

But yeah, he's obviously out and about.

He's having a moment.

And they knew, I guess.

Yeah, I guess I've seen a lot of stuff about the F1 premiere.

So if you did ask me where Bad Pitt was, like, I think.

You'd say not home.

I guess, yeah, he was at the premiere of this movie, F1, which all of a sudden everyone's talking about.

There's a soundtrack.

Yeah.

They got the works.

I don't know when you're this big of a celebrity, like you don't have necessarily round-the-clock security at your house.

Is Is that like crazy that they, that I think that they should?

Or like a house manager or sitter, like someone who would stay at your house to manage the home.

I'm sure it's a

large home.

Yeah.

So I don't know.

I don't know.

My husband and I were talking about like, what do you think the most valuable things are in his home?

I said art.

But I don't, one thing that confused me about that show, Your Friends and Neighbors, is like when he was trying to steal art, like, isn't that really hard to resell?

Like, who wants to buy art on the black market for that much money?

Or does it sort of like pass in tunnels and then it like eventually emerges and someone wants to buy it?

Because it's, oh, this piece.

But that part was so unbelievable to me because it's like,

who, I don't understand who would buy stolen art.

Yeah, I feel like it, there is a market, like famous art has been stolen.

I think even like the Mona Lisa was stolen for a number of years until it was recovered.

No one like bought it and it was hanging in their house because that's very obvious.

Right.

But I think like the point of that guy in your friends and neighbors who was able to

sell stolen art was that, like, he also had a gallery.

And, like, so he has buyers, or maybe he has also buyers who don't really care about the origins.

They just want great art.

You know, because it's like, yeah, if something was hanging in a gallery, like, if you walk into a gallery and there's just a piece of art, like an amazing one-of-a-kind piece there,

like, you didn't ask where it came from.

Maybe not, but if you are wanting to pay the price that they want for the piece or how much it's worth, wouldn't you want like a certificate that's of

a chain of custody of the art?

So I don't know.

I don't know.

But I feel like there is an answer to that.

To why people would buy art on a black market.

Yeah, or how people who like get it illegally then are able to sell it.

And maybe the buyer never even knew that it was illegal.

Yeah.

I think it's, it's certainly possible.

There was a lot of that with

like Jews in Europe had art and then like the Nazis ransacked and and stole them and there were a lot of pieces that have like even today they're still litigating like the woman in gold right exactly like the chain of custody of these pieces of art that like it's international law it gets kind of hairy but you know I hope that nothing like that he really cares about was taken and I'm glad that he wasn't there and it sounds like you know they they found out and everything so yeah just really really crazy I mean there's always like there comes amid a string of celebrity burglaries and home invasions which just happen a lot.

Yeah, inevitable, like I said.

Yeah, very scary.

You should watch Woman in Gold separately, though.

That's a great movie.

I haven't seen it.

What?

Never seen it.

Who's in it?

Helen Mirin.

I actually think Ryan Mirren, Helen Mirren?

Dame Henry.

I think Ryan Reynolds is in it, which is to his credit.

Oh.

Okay.

Yeah, I would love to watch it.

Yeah, no, you would, you would love it.

Because what were you talking about?

There's also like books, historical fiction books about this.

I think like Woman on Fire is another one where it's like literally the movie book, different different woman, but same story of like.

You just always hear this lore of like Jewish families whose art was taken from them and they haven't been able to recover it because it's like it's it was lost in in war or yeah, you know, yeah, stolen.

And no, they go to court and they she goes back because it's like her aunt.

It's like a Klimpt piece, Gustave Klimt.

Klimpt.

And there was a, yeah, there was that exhibit for him in New York City too, right?

Was that controversy brought up when that i think so i think the movie like

it actually lives in new york city but there was also then the one that was like Lumineers or something where it was like more immersive because there is like a climp.

You can go see Woman in Gold in New York City.

It's like in a museum.

But then there was like a more immersive

climped experience.

I think they also did it with like Picasso, where they make it like Museum of Ice Cream climped edition.

Also cool.

Yeah.

Our fifth and final story, little Love Island news, that's going to lead into our TV recap because Love Island USA's Hannah is revealing whether she had a deeper connection with Charlie or Pepe.

So

Hannah is now doing press after being dumped from the island and she's talking about her connections with Charlie versus her connection with Pepe.

It's funny they include like people's last names here, but I'm not interested.

No, me neither.

I just got Charlie's last name, Giorgio.

It's cute.

Italian.

Yeah.

British, Italian, Hannah Fields.

Okay.

I think it's just better if they're one name wonders.

Yeah, me too.

Anyway, she said that she had a super mature connection with Pepe.

She said, I think my connections with both of them were very different.

And maybe it would have played out differently if Charlie was still there.

But I saw a completely different side of Pepe after Charlie left.

And I maybe would have never known that about him.

Many of her and Pepe's sweeter moments were not really shown.

She said, our connection was not really shown.

But literally, everyone was always taking pictures of us and being like, oh my gosh, so cute.

She says she had a really mature connection with him, but we were also super silly.

Yeah, that's what I got gathered.

I feel like they showed that, how, like, Charlie and her were like the obvious connection.

And then with Pepe, it was, I mean, a slower burn in the sense that it took a day.

But then when they did get on the same page, like she was making him fun and lighthearted and he was making her go a little deeper.

Yeah.

I have to speak.

I don't want to speak for Claudia, but I can in that she loves Pepe.

Claudia loves Pepe.

We like text about Love Island all the time and she was like, Pepe and Grayson, hard eyes emojis.

Like literally said no one.

Right.

No one's paying attention to him anymore.

No one's paying attention to Grayson either.

I don't know which one.

Is she the blonde one?

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

People were saying that that she kind of like looks like Hannah a little bit.

So it sort of makes sense.

I do think that this is possible with the show is that we're not seeing a lot of these connections play out.

We can't.

They literally filmed them 24 hours.

35 people to keep track of now.

Right.

So, I mean, no matter what she says, even if she has a really strong connection with Pepe, like the way that she moved was a little bit questionable.

And I think it's reasonable for people to say, like, well, you kind of jump from one to the other quite fast.

But I believe that, like, they ultimately had a connection.

Like, they don't have anything else to do.

So I think that if Hannah went from charlie to the next day she went on a date with pepe like that had to happen um

i think it would and she connected with pepe and all was good i think viewers would have no issue with it i think it was the sex the next night that was so crazy quite crazy i mean she wanted comfort after charlie left yeah so i think that everything like that just made it like very stark like literally crying over charlie the night before but the photo is very dramatic and then the next oh yeah yeah yeah the photo maybe it was two nights later or or I don't know what it was in villa time.

I'll give it up to three to whatever.

A couple nights later, having sex with Pepe

in the bunkhouse.

Yeah.

Extreme, I'll say.

So let's talk about last night's episode because we got some answers on Nick and Elandria.

They did not leave the...

the island.

They went on a date and they were offered the chance to recouple as a couple together or go home single and separate and go back into the villa, which they did.

And right before they went back to the villa, Nick said, you know what, Elandri, like I want to take this time to get to know you like on a romantic level.

Like I've, I've been feeling something this whole time and now we have a chance to explore it.

They also got to swap information about what's been happening in the villa and Casa.

And that was just like fun to see.

And it really feels like the producers are like scripting this show based on what people on Twitter are saying and what people on Twitter want.

And on the one hand, I watched Nick say, like, like, Professor's Love for Orlando.

I was like, wow, Nicolandrea Sands have been right.

And I feel like every recap I do on this show, I've been like mentioning Nicolandrea Sans for some reason.

There's a million things I see, but I'm just like, that's how crazy people are.

There's Nicolandrea fan edits.

And either they were right or producers just really want the vocal people on Twitter to like this season because they orchestrated everything to put Nick and Elandria together, which they've done.

I think they threw so much shit.

at the wall this season.

I think this is the one that sticks.

Because when you think about how it plays out, it's like Nick and Alandria, what happens with Sierra.

Sierra and Alandria are friends.

Like they're two of the, I think, besides Huda, maybe the only OGs standing up.

Shelly, too.

Oh, and Shelly.

But my point is, like, she, Sierra is going to be devastated.

She's kind of not really feeling Elan enough to pursue that.

And I think that this opens up.

But also, I don't think Alandria necessarily did anything wrong.

Like, I see people being mad at her, like, she's disloyal, but it's like, I don't think so at all.

I don't think any of the couples were strong enough for them to like not be able to speak to or get to know other people.

I don't think Alandria has done anything wrong either.

Like it will devastate Sierra, but that's this show.

Like that's exactly what it is.

And everyone's doing what they were supposed to do.

I just thought it was really sad, the juxtaposition of Sierra like not going all in on Alam because she's still thinking about Nick.

Meanwhile, Nick is moving in on her best friend.

Yeah.

And also the Taylor stuff.

Taylor noticeably didn't go to hug Alandria when he saw that Alandria and Nick were both back in the villa.

Like he zoomed right to Nick and people made note of that because it's like like the girl that you were coupled up with, you just totally ignored her.

And maybe he feels awkward because he's with Clark, but I think Alandria still likes him.

Which is so crazy to me.

I look forward to the dissolution of Alandria and Taylor.

Like it's not been giving me anything.

And I like her so much.

And I like her and Nick are fan favorites.

So them being together, if it is real, works for me.

And that's a winning couple because they have overcome adversity.

It was the whole time I was looking at you, you were looking at me.

They did always pick each other to kiss in the challenges.

Like, he, maybe those edits weren't so crazy after all.

So, like, that is a storyline that, like, could win this show.

Whereas we have not seen anything else like that.

And Taylor and Elangia, like, she deserves someone who likes her.

He did not like her.

And, like, watching them was just like frustrating and boring.

And then, like, then it's actually been four weeks now.

Like, in the beginning, it's like, listen, you don't want to jump all in with someone like, girl, I get it.

But four weeks and on Villa time, that's a really long time.

And if he's still not, if you guys aren't progressing and he can't like give you anything,

it's not it.

And the fact that we now see him with Clark being a completely different person, well, now we know.

Yeah, that he just wasn't that into her.

Yeah.

And I think he was like trying to tell, he like said it to Ace at one point, but I don't know.

They just kept saying, no, they're have, they're so strong, they're the best.

And I'm really glad.

I really hope this chapter is over and done with.

Yeah.

Do you think Alandria likes Nick?

I think Alandria is very authentic in the things that she says.

So if I don't think she will pretend to like Nick if she doesn't, I think she's open to it.

I think she was really shocked to hear him say these things.

I do wonder if a producer is telling Nick to say these things like, hey, listen, this is your shot.

Everyone on Twitter wants you and Alandria to be together.

And I wouldn't be surprised if he's like, oh, I love that.

Like, I really, I did like her.

Or like, I think she's so cute.

I think she's so great.

Like, I'll do it.

Sure.

I don't think Alandria would just do something to be on the the show.

Like she's a very principled person.

So I think she will give it a spin.

But if at the end of the day, she's not into it, she will tell us.

And if she does say that she's into it, I will believe her.

She has earned credibility.

I think that also the way that this played out sort of gave credence to the idea that the producers get involved in the eliminations, even when the Islanders are seemingly the ones deciding and it's not just fan voted.

Because when you think about it, it's like, if

those were the two people eliminated and they made it seem like this get-together hideaway date happened right right after the eliminations.

It was dark during the eliminations.

This happened right after that.

Like, do you think that the producers actively somehow manipulated the Islanders to pick those two people so that this would all take place?

Because otherwise, how would they have like set up the date that fast?

Yes, but also it's like, okay, so what if Amaya was eliminated with Nick?

That's what I'm saying.

They would have gone to that.

Right.

They would have gone to the highway.

They would say, you want to be in a couple and we're supposed to be excited about?

That's like the worst couple ever.

Right.

What if like Austin were eliminated?

He was, it was between Austin and Nick to be eliminated because Jaden was choosing.

And it was between Alandria and Amaya.

So all it had to take was a producer saying to Jaden, like, you should go with Austin.

Nick is going, like, there's going to be an elimination tomorrow.

Nick is going to choose CR and you're going home.

Like, and even, and I said, I think Jaden only chose Austin so she can stay on because Nick is a riskier choice.

But even

she said last night, she chose Austin, she likes him, whatever.

She said, I feel safe with him.

And I feel like that was like a safety about the show.

Her position on the show.

Yeah.

So I don't think it took much for a producer to convince her to go with Austin.

And I don't think it took much for a producer to convince Zach to go with Amaya.

Plus, like Amaya is giving it to him.

Like she's like down and

again, she's a safe choice because she's untethered to the house.

So like, yeah,

sure, we'll do that.

There was a stark contrast between Alandria and Amaya and Zach.

And Amaya was like.

a little desperate, but like she was really saying, like, I like you.

I want to make this work.

We're kissing.

I think

Amaya will like anyone who likes her.

And in an earnest way, like all she wants is to be loved.

Like if Ace had been kind to her, she would have been happy with Ace.

If Austin liked her more, she would have been happy with Austin.

I think if Zach likes her, like, and I don't think that's even like phony.

Like, I think she just is a person who like loves love and loves to be loved.

And maybe like down the line, like months into a relationship, she'd be like, actually, this is not what Amaya wants.

But I think right now, Amaya wants is like just to be wanted.

And like, and also.

Assuming like you're a good, handsome person, yeah, cool.

Let's go.

Do you like Amaya?

Like, no, I'm not entertained.

Like, I don't dislike her.

There's nothing to dislike.

She's obviously a sweet soul.

I am not entertained by her.

Like, when Natalie was here, she's like, oh my God, she's so funny.

She says the funny stuff.

I'm like, I'm not even paying attention.

Like, when people are like, she said,

or what was opportunity.

I'm like, I'm not even listening.

I heard gratitude, but like, I'm not paying them.

Or they're like quoting her confessionals back to me.

I'm like, I'm not listening.

Like, I don't know.

She doesn't like pull me in.

She seems like a sweet girl, but I'm not like sat for everything she has to say like I am with other people.

I'm not sat for everything she has to say, but I do think like the edits that people make of her are hilarious because she kind of just speaks in a, in a strain, she says words weirdly.

And I was talking about how she randomly dropped the word tachycardic in an interview.

And I was like, oh, she kind of, but is she a nurse?

She is a nurse.

Okay, so then that's a word that she like uses frequently, but it just, it was a funny juxtaposition of like using that word and then saying opportunity and gratitude incorrectly.

Those feel.

What do you think about it?

Do you like her?

I like her.

Okay.

If she got eliminated, would you be sad?

Yeah, because I think she adds something to the show.

I think she's like silly.

I'm not necessarily, I don't necessarily want her to win, although I don't think that matters.

I would get so excited if she won.

That would be so crazy to me.

It would be crazy.

And I don't know who she, I guess, now she's with Zach Kay, so they would probably be the winning couple.

I do like her.

I think she like adds something.

I think in the beginning, I thought she was really crazy.

And she was.

Her whole thing with Ace was crazy, but I think that she's just like, she's harmless, is what I would say.

Yeah, I agree.

I agree.

But like, it's not my favorite form of entertainment.

Yeah.

Who else?

Um, the challenge was insane.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

They're doing cheerleading pyramids.

They're having an orgy.

Yeah, it was, it was crazy.

And you were saying offline that it was like amusing that everybody was doing.

It's so embarrassing when you're doing so much in those challenges and then you lose.

Yeah.

It's very embarrassing.

No, Huda was in two out of three.

She did three separate, like, she was called on thrice.

And the first two times she didn't win.

And like, she was doing the most.

Like, that's really embarrassing.

And then the third one, she won, but like, seriously, we were getting to a place of a live blowjob last night.

Like, yes, the people were seriously licking parts.

Yes, it wasn't very godly.

I'll say that.

Like, next one, if they did one more, like, someone was going like to get naked.

What's crazy about this show, too, is, do you, you've watched before, so you know about the heart rate challenge?

Yeah.

I love that challenge.

And it is so over-the-top sexual, but like, I think it's, it's good because it's like, it's contained and we all look forward to it.

And because it, it doesn't happen so much throughout the course of the show.

Yeah.

So when there's a heart rate challenge, you're like, oh my God, everyone's like making out with each other.

Who like gets and and this it like this whole season takes the sting out of something like that because every challenge is beyond more sexual than anything I've ever seen.

And now I know people say that like on Love Island UK and seasons past, it was so raunchy.

It was so crazy.

They were smoking.

They were drinking.

I couldn't see Molly and Tommy doing any of this.

Well, that is, I think the first two seasons of Love Island UK were crazy from what I hear.

I didn't watch.

By season five, it wasn't so crazy anymore.

And I think that's actually one of the reasons it's been such a popular season not just because of Molly and Tommy but because they were able to like really make drama without all that crap and this is like the other side of the of the spectrum where it's like okay we I understand it's a sexual show that's fine with me like I sign up for watching that they come in in their bikinis and their heels but it's like you're it's it's just too much yeah too much and Claudia saying that she was like embarrassed to watch it with Ben I can't watch it with Chris it's it's embarrassing like yeah it's too much no it is too much It's beyond the pale.

They come in in bikinis and heels, but the bikinis have gotten smaller.

Now no one is wearing like a bottom.

Everyone's wearing thongs.

Like soon they will be naked.

Yeah.

It's just, it's a lot.

And I agree.

The heart rate challenge is pointless at this point.

Like nothing that they've done could be crazier.

Nothing that they could do could be crazier than the things that they've done.

Did you talk about the twerking challenge on this show?

No, I don't think so.

Because I know that this is going to go against everything I just said, but I was like kind of obsessed with it.

It was fun.

It was fun.

And it was dancing.

It was dancing.

It was, it was singular.

No one was actually touching each other, so it's just like, who's the best dancer?

And like, yeah, some things got like sexual, but like, it was like, you know, teetering on, and then it comes back, and then Austin comes and he's just being silly.

And it was like a combination of silly, sexy, fun, like, that's what it should be.

Yeah, there's not a lot of silliness, there's not a lot of fun.

It's just, and the fact that these couples do not kiss or make out or get intimate really during the day.

Some do at night, but most of them just turn and face the wall and put on their eye mask.

And then when the challenge comes, they're all porn stars is so crazy to me.

It's disorienting.

That's that's true.

Like you never kiss the person that you're interested in, but you do

have dry sex with the entire house.

I don't

know.

I don't think they're that interested in.

I don't think there's that many people that are that interested in each other or else they would be kissing.

I agree.

Out of the challenge.

That's also a problem with the show.

It's like that makes people, you know, disloyal because it's like, I don't care.

Okay, who's here?

Cool.

Bye.

But we need some solid couples.

Like, it is Love Island.

There's not a lot of love.

And so, like, the only people who I think truly like someone are Sierra liking Nick.

Mm-hmm.

I think Nick likes Sierra.

I think so, too.

Yeah.

Not as much as she likes him, clearly.

That's come up now multiple times.

I think Alandria liked Taylor, but even her version of liking someone does not mean like we're going to be making out all the time.

And I, and I appreciate that.

And I truly respect it.

But like, you know, a kiss?

When they kiss, it's like the biggest deal.

And it's just a peck on the lips.

Like, it's even I'm like, what?

Yeah.

Other people who like each other.

Well, now everyone's separate from their original.

But I also feel like everyone in CASA more, like, the girls are kind of saying, like, Huda, what's going on with Huda?

Like, she's, this is supposed to be her time to shine.

Where's the connection?

I guess people are tired of her.

Who's she with?

She's JD.

But, like, they don't show us that.

Like, what's going on there?

They had that one conversation about her asking him how he feels about kids, and he said it doesn't matter, which to me, like, that's not what you should be saying.

But I I also don't like how they came to CASA and they had to get coupled up in Casa because, like, Huda, someone who's single, like Huda, should be able to explore every single guy without stepping on toes.

Chris doesn't belong to Shelly, like

T, I don't know the name, Zach doesn't belong to I, like everyone should be talking to everyone.

I don't like that they coupled up because it feels like you either have to make it work with the person you're coupled up with, which is completely based on looks, or you're stepping on toes.

Like, if what, if someone wanted to go talk to Chris, like that would be weird, right?

Even though Shelly has a boyfriend back at the house and Chris is completely fair game.

So I'm not liking the format.

I'm not really liking any of it.

I feel like producers are very, and the thing about the show, are there cameramen in the villa or it's all drones and stationary cameras?

I think there might be cameras when they do

recouplings because I don't know something about that gives like they're they're revolving around them but generally I think it's just you see it's like CCTV.

Yeah, yeah, which I think is really good.

You get everything on camera.

They are able to feel like their natural selves.

There's not a camera in in their face.

But then where are the producers?

Like, so they often have meals off camera.

Right.

And I think that's when they just saw a reel this morning that was like fun facts about Love Island.

I was like, the islanders are only allowed to cook themselves one meal.

It's usually breakfast, which by the way, this whole breakfast thing has become insanely stupid.

A little silly.

Right?

Like, it's like this whole production.

It's like.

And it means so much.

It's like, and everyone thinks they're like crushing it.

Last season, there was a great scene where there was a couple who were on the Fritz after Casa Amore.

Do you know this?

I've been seeing it.

Serena

threw her eggs.

And I remember everyone was like, yes.

And I thought that was like a little much,

but yeah, that was a big breakfast season.

Yeah, they're like making the most out of breakfast.

And it's like, you guys don't even know each other.

And it's like, oh, but I have to make the breakfast.

And then the other two meals are provided.

They're brought in by production and

they eat.

Off camera.

I think that's when they do talk to the producers, but I don't know how much the producers are telling them about like the outside world or what they think they should be doing.

I don't know.

I'm starting to feel like they're telling them a lot.

A lot.

I also, the confessionals, I often get the sense that the producers are saying, okay, say it this way, because sometimes they come off way more articulate in their confessionals than they do in their conversations, which could just be human.

Like sometimes when you're just talking to camera, you have more time to think about what you want to say.

But sometimes I'm like, you don't sound the same as when you're talking to that guy.

For sure.

And producers are definitely asking questions in there.

Yes.

That's true.

Direct questions.

They want to know answers.

And that's good.

That's like good television production.

I'm fine with that.

But it does feel like Nick is a production plan at this point.

And I'm open to all of it having been true.

And he was like, wait, they like that?

I like her.

But I'm also open to, he's like, let's make a show.

Yeah.

Let's make great television.

So I'm skeptical.

And I think that's fair.

Last night's episode was fine because like nothing stupid happened.

You know, no one got sent home prematurely.

So I don't feel any rage today.

And it was also an hour.

which was key as opposed to an hour and a half, humane.

Yeah, that's good.

I look forward to the houses coming back together even though like there's 50 people there's 50 people so what's the core drama that sierra nick and alandria yeah who is shelly gonna choose this the seeing those two next to each other is gonna be crazy uh chris and ace did you catch him talking about it last night i don't remember when it came up but but they were talking about how someone in the in casa was like six foot seven and ace was like i don't care no Alandria told Nick that Shelly's talking to a guy who's six foot seven.

Nick told Ace, Shelly's talking to a guy who's six foot seven.

And Ace was like, I don't care.

And the boys were like, yeah, Ace doesn't care.

I'm sorry.

Like, there's no way that that

he doesn't care.

And that, like, when you see that in real life, that's not going to be stark.

How tall do you think Ace is?

Five,

eight.

Five.

So a foot difference.

Why?

The guy's six, seven?

He's six, seven.

Six, seven is a crazy height.

That's really

tall.

Like, it's not just like he's a tall, tall guy.

Ace is a shorter guy.

He is extremely tall.

and compared to the other guys on the show, Ace is short.

Right.

The memes will kind of go crazy.

The memes will go crazy.

I think they like they literally are laughing to themselves in the production.

And it's unfortunate that Ace has sort of like people have turned on him and don't like him because I don't think any people would make as big of a deal of it as they would if he weren't like be he was he's acting short.

Like his personality is short.

He's he's being

like he has a Napoleon complex, I think.

So yeah, even though like Napoleon accomplished greatness and like it's,

I don't know, I think that term like is an entirely

yeah, it's not entirely accurate, accurate.

And where I stand with Ace right now, like I don't hate him as much as everyone does.

Me neither.

I had a moment where I did dislike him and I still don't understand why he chose Amaya at that recoupling.

And like if I ever talk to anyone from Love Island, like that's the only thing.

Well, of course, why'd you vote the way you did?

Who was leading the discussions?

Of course, like we're getting down to the,

why did Amaya choose Ace choose Amaya at that second recoupling?

He was trying to play hard to get, I think, with with Shelly.

He was still in the triangle with Shelly and Austin.

Although, then you have the question of whether they're like manipulating all of this for the viewers.

If they weren't, I think he wanted to show Shelly, like, okay, like, you do your thing, I'll do mine.

And then, like, but Shelly didn't do anything to make him feel like, okay, you do that.

Like, you know, she was really down for him.

And if it wasn't for Ulysses, they would have been the couple.

I forgot about that.

I saw a tweet that was like, all of this is Ulysses' fault.

I forgot.

She was in a couple with Ace and then Ace was single.

Shelly was in a couple with Ace.

She chose Ace at the first podium.

Okay.

But Ulysses went next and she was able to knock Shelly off.

Oh, I see.

And that puts Shelly with Austin and Ulysses with Ace.

Okay.

Yeah.

So they had to.

They would have been the couple, like from the jump.

Yeah.

If not for Ulyssa.

I have no memory of who was originally coupled.

Like that stuff leaves my memory so fast.

And when someone was like, well, Alandrea Nick did, she did go and kiss him at the first.

Oh, and then when they're like, Ace hates Jeremiah because Jeremiah gave someone his, Ulysses, his cheek.

Jeremiah coupled up with Huda

early in the first couple.

And he liked Huda, apparently.

So when another girl came to kiss him on his podium, he gave his cheek,

which made him look really good.

It made Huda be like, oh, okay, like locked in.

Love bombing.

And then the other girl that you, and that was Ulyssa, the other guy that Ulysses had kissed was Ace.

She kissed Ace first.

He was coupled up with Shelly.

Ace went in for the kiss.

Great.

Then she gets nothing from Jeremiah.

So, one, it makes Ace look bad.

Like, oh, we could have done that.

We could have just stood by the girl if we like the one and we're happy with him.

And it's like, so of course, Ulysses is going to choose Ace because Jeremiah just said no.

Right.

So that's what people think is Ace's villain origin story, in addition to having a crush on Huda to begin with, which I don't think is true.

Unless, like, I don't know, maybe the shorty wants a shorty.

Yeah.

And also eliminating Jeremiah in that process.

People think he just he was jealous and wanted wanted him out yeah yeah but like why does ace hate jeremiah so much like what

like because he does hate him and he was so fixated on him for like the the few days that he was there why people think it's the ulyssa thing that he like that i don't think so

what do you think i think that he saw that jeremiah was getting like a lot of the attention and he wanted the attention or he wanted huda

I don't think it says,

I agree with the tension.

I don't think it's that he wanted Huda, but I could be be wrong.

I think the Ulyssa thing is making sense.

Like he made him look bad.

He made him look bad.

He's not bad.

And it like forced Ulysses to choose Ace and break up Ace's couple with his already existing girlfriend, Happy Valentine's Day, Shelly.

I see.

Okay.

That's what I think.

Okay.

Another episode tonight.

Friday, yes.

Yeah, they said, and they showed us, Casa's coming back.

Yes.

So we'll see.

We'll see.

Now it is time for dear toasters, you guys.

We did it.

We certainly have time for dear toasters.

I'm going to do two deer toasters with Sliz

because we did one with Craig.

So we're breaking it up.

Okay, here we go.

I really have to listen.

Like when I'm listening on the podcast, I'm like, I didn't hear what that person said.

No, I do that same with Claudia.

I'm like, back it up.

Like, I'm still talking about you, Lissa.

Dear Toasters, please help.

I'm married to an actual Pete John, but I have consistent dreams about leaving him for a guy I dated years ago.

To be honest, I have always wondered what would happen if I ended up with that guy, but having these dreams is making me feel such guilt, I want to cry.

I love my husband husband because he's so loyal, honest, a great father to our daughter.

I almost want to tell one of my girlfriends to get this off my chest, but I feel like it's such a weird thing.

What do I do?

I don't think you have to feel guilty at all.

I think it's sweet that you do, but like you told your girlfriends, us.

And so it's like, it's, I think that this probably happens to a lot of people.

And I don't think it means that you don't like your husband.

I think it's just like.

Your dreams hold on to things in a weird way.

And if you have some fixation about this like old love, I think that's probably pretty common, honestly.

Probably common.

I think like your mind's playing tricks on you.

And I don't know how you can like change the things that you dream about, but like I find whatever I'm watching or I'm reading like that, like last night I was dreaming about,

oh, I was packing.

So I was dreaming about suitcases.

And every time I flipped over, I'm like, the suitcase, the suitcase.

Not saying to pack to go somewhere, but like if you get into like a really intense show or something, or even like Love Island, that just like sort of starts it.

And then you start to think about that when you dream.

Do you find?

Yes.

Also, if you, like, yeah, like if you read romance novels and you think, oh, life is supposed to be that way with a partner or whatever, with your, with your your husband, it's not.

Like marriages can get stale.

So if there's something actionable you want to do, you don't have to.

But if you like want to try to avoid these dreams, I would maybe say like, go on a trip with your husband.

I don't know.

Try and shake it up.

Shake it up.

Yeah.

Because if you're feeling like maybe that's stale and you feel bad, you're not doing anything wrong.

You can't control your dreams.

You can't control your dreams.

And I would just say like, do not make any decisions based on your dreams.

Your dreams should not guide you to do anything.

No, I completely agree.

Right.

Just like a romance novel.

It's a fantasy book.

Like that's not like, oh, well, now I have to change my life and move to a small town.

Right.

To find love.

Yeah.

You seem thoughtful and it's good that you're, you know, thinking about it, but, you know, I don't think that this is meaningful at all.

I agree.

And we got to shake up the dream, shake up the subconscious.

Yeah.

They're definitely just messing with you.

Spice things up with your, with your husband.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Hi, girlies.

I have a pretty short tear toasters, but I'm sincerely conflicted.

One of my best friends has been dating a loser for the past two years where she is totally out of his league in every way possible.

She has expressed her doubts in the past, but ever since he moved for her, she has pretended everything is perfect.

We recently found out that every one of her friends from all different friend groups has the same stance that he's a total weirdo, lazy, inconsiderate, uggo, and that they should break up.

Do we as friends tell her that everyone hates her boyfriend, or is that just totally not our place?

Also, we are mid-20s, so this could be looking at marriage soon.

You don't say anything.

No, my opinion.

Not unless she asks you again.

Like she asked you, like back in the day before he moved, she would complain about him.

Like like she would talk about it like conversation was open right now conversation is closed i would not bring it up and okay i don't i literally don't care if every single one of her friends doesn't like him and you don't like him you're not dating him first of all so it literally doesn't matter what you think now you he might objectively like just be a bad guy and she shouldn't be with him but that might not be the case he might just not be for you or for them coincidentally not for anyone around you guys but like

She's your friend.

You trust her.

Yeah, she has free will.

Like, this is what she's chosen.

No one's making her do this.

You didn't say anything that is a complete red red flag.

Weirdo.

Uggo, lazy.

Those adjectives, like, are not.

I'm judging you for calling someone weird.

Like, what, who makes you the arbiter of cool?

Right.

Uggo?

Excuse me.

Right.

We don't call people ugly.

Like, no, especially.

It's not nice.

No, and it's like irrelevant.

He can't control it.

Imagine saying, I don't like your boyfriend because he's ugly.

No.

It's

12.

And the lazy thing, like, it's sort of irrelevant now.

I mean, I don't know if they, if they have kids one day and he's lazy, he's not helping.

Even then, I don't think you should say anything.

But for right now, it's like, who cares?

Like, what are they doing?

No, and it's like, that's her problem.

Yeah.

So what you're worried, like, I don't know, this gives a little bit like focus on yourself, mind your own business.

Yeah.

Inconsiderate.

I do feel like if inconsideration was such an issue, you would have shared an anecdote.

And I'm not getting any.

Like, I'm not sure.

Well, maybe they wanted to keep it short.

Yeah, but it's not, it's pretty much average length.

It's like, you know, a nice paragraph.

So

I feel like you guys are being a little judgmental.

And sometimes like, I think mid-20s are an interesting time because like some people are getting serious.

Some people are not.

Some people are like waiting for the perfect person some people are realizing that's not a real thing and we're we're gonna have a make it work moment yeah and you also have to think this through I think a lot of people don't my advice is usually never say anything unless there's like legitimate abuse or something serious but um like what if you say something and then these people get married and then like you always know that you said to your friend like your husband's lazy and ugly and then no and like I think you going with those criticisms are not real strong criticisms to actually bring to a friend like if there were other things that were more serious and we've seen ones where it's like, I know he cheated on you, then it's like, do you tell?

Do you say?

And I do think that you do.

This is not that.

This is your opinion.

Nobody asked.

If she does ask, you're welcome to share it if you want to ruin your friendship potentially.

But unless she asks,

shut your mouth.

Yeah.

And I also, I think it's a little bit not to like totally just shit on this writer, but like not to sometimes.

It's hard not to.

Like you don't like going around and talking to all of this girl's friends who I imagine you're probably not friends with.

Like, how did you guys all like get it together without her

I don't care for that I think it's fine to have your opinions and you know girls talk and maybe you talk with your mutual friends about it and say you know I don't really get along with that guy but that's not what you said so I um I

challenge you to be a little bit more optimistic maybe and I think this is part of growing up is like realizing that not everyone's going to choose a partner that you would choose for them or that you would choose for yourself and just nodding your head.

Maybe we're not all going to be like best friends, double date all the time.

That's not in your future.

Like relationships change.

It's, that's a sad one to swallow, especially mid-20s.

I think not everyone in the group is on that page.

I think there's also, I'm not saying that this was where this person was coming from, but there can always be jealousy.

Like I think at this age where a lot of people start to couple up or like, you know, find long-term partners and other people aren't.

And it's really hard.

And so sometimes you just like your worst self sort of gets in the way of clear thinking.

So I don't know.

I agree.

You know what?

We're going to do a third one because I do have a third one.

I think it's a good one.

And I feel like we have time.

Okay.

Dear Swirlies, longtime toaster, first-time submission.

I love you both so much.

I have been married for 10 years and we have three beautiful children.

I just found out that he has been talking and sexting with a woman with women on a website for extramarital affairs.

You know, the one, A.M.

Ashley Madison.

Yeah.

Who even knew that was still a thing.

Yeah, not me.

I thought I shut down.

Well, it is.

He said he hasn't had sex with anyone and has never met with these women in person.

One of the women's husbands reached out to me and told me everything, and that's how I found out.

My husband said it was true.

Love a confused and mad toaster.

This is really hard.

Yeah.

Because I tend to side with you when you think about a marriage and children that you don't want divorce.

Like divorce can be so messy.

It's so hard on kids, but it's also like, I don't know how do you, how do you trust him?

And he, he didn't independently tell her.

He didn't feel guilty and say, by the way, like, I have to get this off my chest.

I'm, I guess, glad that he admitted it.

He at least came clean.

He didn't have to keep digging, find proof, show it in his face.

And I also, like, I don't really believe that he didn't meet up with this person.

Like, what, what would have stopped him from doing that?

Maybe, I don't know.

I don't know.

When I did watch Ashley Madison documentary, I just want to say like that was a thing like of just men talking to women, sexting, and not actually getting together with them.

It also turned out that a lot of the women profiles on Ashley Madison were bots.

It was actually Ashley Madison just like keeping these men engaged.

I don't know how much of that there was.

The documentary kind of lost me with that because it's like, well, what if they wanted to get together and then it's a bot?

Like, how much of this was?

I think maybe that happened a little bit where they were like creating profiles to keep men engaged but um I think there were also like real live women but I there was a couple people where it was like some people had affairs yes other people just used it for like talking and never got to that next level yeah I think it's such a

like I imagine that even if you work full time, you are like the number one primary caregiver of the children.

I feel like that's often how it is for mothers, even when, you know, you think like it just, it breaks my heart when there's like, you're married 10 years, you have three children, and like, this is what your husband's doing I understand that like sometimes maybe men feel lonely or I don't know what it is that that causes them to do that but I would say

I guess you should probably try to work on it whether that's therapy or a rabbi I don't know like just talk talk to somebody because I do think a 10 year long relationship is worth working on I agree worth the effort the three kids is worth it I think there are ways, like there are instances where people can change and like be rehabilitated from something like this.

Even one of the couples on the the Ashley Madison documentary was like really bad.

They were a family channel, and he was like, I think, I don't even know if he met up with women, I think that he did, but it was like serial cheating.

And they wound up working through it and staying together.

And they're in the documentary together.

And it was actually a really nice ending.

So I'm hoping for that for you.

But I think it will require like a lot of work on him alone, on you guys together, like to build back.

Like trust was one thing, but we got to get him to stop doing it in the first place, you know, before he, it's not like

he needs to change as a person, and then you need to be able to trust who his new self is.

So, like, yeah, therapy, consulting with

a leader in your community, like someone that you trust, like really working through it.

But I think it's worth the effort.

So do I.

And I think forgiveness can be found, but it has to be earned

in a major way.

Agreed.

And I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's like never fun when you get those.

It sounds hard.

Yeah, it does.

Definitely.

I did not know Ashley Madison was still around doing its Ashley Madison thing.

Me neither.

Well, shifting to a more positive note, we are ending this episode of Jackson Friends with Miss Lizard P.

Thank you so much for coming down here, for doing two wonderful shows with me.

I hope that you had a nice time.

I had such a good time.

It was so fun to just have like a girly girl chit-chat that hopefully people enjoy.

And

you've done an amazing job, by the way.

Like I know, like people forget, I forget that you're pregnant.

Like you were pregnant.

You have two toddlers.

You,

did you share that you had your

surgery?

I shared it on Patreon and then I said here I had a procedure, but yes, I had my my surclage, my preventative stitch put in.

It's been a really busy month for you, and I think you've picked amazing people and you are so engaged with all the people that come in.

Like, even when they're talking about things that you might not normally talk about, I just notice how you always like you, just you're such a good interviewer and host.

So, you should feel very proud.

I know that Claudia is probably really proud of you, too, and she'll say as much when you guys do your episode together.

But, like, everybody should give Jackie her flowers because it's been wonderful.

Thank you so much.

You make it so easy.

You're welcome back anytime.

Highly qualified.

I give you five booms.

Okay.

Oh, yeah.

And I've had so much fun doing this.

Thank you to all the co-hosts who have come through.

It has been really fun.

And I know that Claudia has appreciated you and everyone else who has stepped up in her stead.

So we'll see you on Monday.

Before I let you go, we do have an interview at the end of this episode.

That's just such a fun way to wrap up the show.

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Welcome back to the toast.

We are bringing the boom today because I have a very special interview with today's guest.

Welcome, AJ of the Costco, guys, to The Toast, an iconic collaboration.

I can't wait for this.

It's so awesome.

I'm here on the toast I mean look at this place this place is a big boom

I completely agree it's such a boom how are you doing awesome awesome love this Costco guy it's great I mean we have new adventures every day we get to make people happy all the time I mean that's that's the best part about all this Jackie the best part about all this is when we see people and we see how happy we're able to make them and their faces light up and we get to take pictures and videos of people I mean it's such a gift it's the coolest thing ever it's so cool everyone loves you guys I had the pleasure of meeting you in the wild about a year ago at Costco.

My husband went to Costco that morning and he was flipping.

He was like, oh my God, the Costco guys were there doing like their videos.

And actually, you guys inspired us because then I was like, we had been meaning to do a Costco vlog for like months and we just didn't do it.

But then we were like, oh, they were filming there.

Oh, you know what?

We should do that Costco vlog today.

Like, okay.

So we go back to Costco and my sister and her husband came.

too and they love you guys and you were still there filming.

We didn't expect that.

We didn't go to like, you know,

stalk you but that's what wound up happening and we got to meet you and your son of course big justice icon and your wife and your whole family it's a family

yeah we're all involved now do you love working with family oh how could you not it's the great i don't it wouldn't work if we didn't do this as a family i agree it wouldn't work we all have to be together we all have to work together everyone has an equal part and it's great to be a family out there especially especially during traveling because i would never travel and leave them home yeah i just couldn't do that so that's the big part about it.

So, I mean, we just got back from VidCon.

We got back from Kids' Choice Awards.

And we did it as a family.

And it's a lot better that way.

It's a lot more wholesome that way.

And I feel safe that way.

Yeah, it's good for your kids.

And it's good for you guys to be able to be with your kids.

How's Big Justice?

I'm assuming he's in school today.

I'm hoping he's in school.

Well, we're in June, so school's done.

He finished school.

You're right.

Yeah, he finished school at the end of May.

So Big Justice did very well in school.

Yeah, he did very well.

He had a private tutor this year.

Go off Big Justice.

We were traveling a lot.

He has a lot of subjects.

He loves

cakes.

I'm bringing you in on this one.

He loves math.

He loves math.

I got to bring Mama Justice in on this one.

He loves math.

He counts every dollar.

That's good.

That helps for the work.

He's running his own Pokemon business.

Go off.

Yeah.

So what's he up to?

Enjoying summer break?

He's enjoying summer break.

He's probably at a card shop today.

He's in the middle of all-star baseball.

So we won our first game Monday.

We played one inning last night.

Got rained out.

So you got to go back and finish it today.

Wow, good times.

Well, I'm so glad that you were able to come here because the way that this came about was I'm doing guest co-hosts this month because my sister's on maternity leave.

Congratulations.

I had to reach out to all the icons of South Florida and I was like, we have to get the Costco guys on.

That's so cool.

So I'm an icon of South Florida.

Thank you so much.

That is awesome.

A thousand percent.

Like, we've had a lot of really exciting people on this show.

Like, I think people are going to really flip that you're here.

And I want to get to know AJ and the Costco guy like we've never seen them before.

Because you were saying you've never done like a format like this, like a girly swirly podcast right

just about as girly and swirly as i've gotten yeah no doubt so we're gonna like see how girly you really are oh here we go um no we just like want to get to know you how's being a costco guy the last year so i like not that i had anything to do with it but coincidentally right after we met you guys like oh my god things popped off like you guys were everywhere the late night shows every like video every creator you're all over you're taking over costco guys takeover how has the last year been i think it has a lot to do with how we make people happy the positivity we bring, the happiness we bring.

The booms, you know, of course, it's all about the boom, and the boom is the happiness and the positivity.

And from that very first Costco guy video, I thought we had something that nobody else had because we grew up watching a lot of father and son channels.

That's what Big Justice loved watching and we watched a lot and I always saw a lot on those channels.

I saw that it looked as if like the father was the main character and the son kind of had ideas and maybe wanted to talk and the father kind of brushed the son off a little bit and I would be sitting there watching and I would say no wait I want to hear what this kid has to say so that's why part of the vision of our channel was no no no big justice we're going to take the lead and I was going to be the father behind him supporting him every step of the way and as crazy as it sounds out there letting him know yeah go right go run crazy throughout Costco go ahead shout boom and doom in a restaurant I'm right here I got you covered don't worry about it we're gonna go do our thing what is your relationship like to Costco now have Costco corporate ever reached out yeah we're in touch with Costco and get free Costco like I would hope so no I'm not too worried about free i'm happy to support costco but we're partners with about 20 maybe 25 brands within costco that makes sense because they have like the brands and so you go and you spotlight certain brands you give them the boom that's right and costco has been like friendly towards you guys in terms of like filming in the stores and they don't get i mean costco calls us the costco guys so i don't know how much more friendly we could get that's when costco's been awesome

that's so great so how often do you go to a costco now probably about every 10 days right now that's what are you feeling like what's the best product at costco right now the double chunk chocolate cookie.

Always the wagu steak.

The wagyu steak is always very, very good.

I like the New York strip.

New York Strip is my cut.

I like New York Strip.

Okay.

So the New York Strip Wagyu cut, you get great Wagyu steak for great prices.

So a family could afford to enjoy some Wagyu at Costco.

The seasonal stuff is great right now.

So you'll be able to get out there right now with summer here and get some slides and stuff for the kids and maybe get some patio furniture, some picnic tables, things like that, coolers, things you need for the boat and all that.

So it's really a great time in the summer here at Costco.

It is a great time.

I need to go to Costco.

This makes me want to go to Costco.

Maybe I'll make a stop.

On my way home every time I see you guys like in the wild or on my screen, I'm like, I need to go to Costco.

It's where it all goes down at Costco.

It goes down at Costco.

I mean, it's a great place.

I mean, I think Costco has the perfect blend of quality and price.

I think that's what it really is.

I mean, you get quantities you can't get anywhere else.

They come at a great price.

They're a great quality.

And that's

Costco wins.

So when you guys were starting out your channel and like thinking about what you wanted to do and how you wanted to do it, like what was the reasoning behind going like full Costco and not just like the store guys and like going to different places?

Like what was the vision behind Costco guys?

Costco guys happened.

It really, really happened.

It wasn't quite the vision that the channel was going to be Costco centralized or anything like that.

So one day we were watching that trend happen that was kind of like, we're husband and wife.

He always steals the covers or, you know, we're husband and wife.

I got to cook his steak and and all that.

So we said, let's do we're father and son.

Okay.

So we did, we're father and son.

He comes to all my baseball games.

We're father and son.

I work my biceps and triceps three days a week.

So from there, it evolved.

I said, you know what?

We do the Costco runs in our house because that was something we started doing because Mama Justice had so much on her plate at the time.

So we were saying, you know what, we're going to do Costco.

We got Costco.

Don't worry about a thing.

And we were having fun with it because we were going probably like Monday at six o'clock, seven o'clock.

The place was dead.

We were running all over the place, climbing things, having a great time.

So from the father's son video, we evolved it to, let's just go in there and say we're Costco guys.

Yeah.

So of course you've thought about that.

Yeah, but we're Costco guys.

Of course we eat the samples even though we buy the thing every time we're here.

So it just so happened perfect timing.

We get there and we see the big sign, you got to try our new double chunk chocolate cookie.

But it's actually the double chocolate chunk cookie.

Oh, but have they officially changed the name yet?

No.

Because everybody now knows.

No, they haven't officially changed the name.

So

we still call it the double chunk chocolate cookie as you should as we should so i think that became one of the top memes in the world for about three months so we were off to the races so so good it's been so good it's been so fun to watch you guys and and you really work as a family so your wife works in front of the camera with you yeah and behind the camera everything yeah whatever we're we're whatever it takes at this point yeah your daughter too so like what's everybody's role in the operation it seems like Mama Justice gets everyone on schedule where they need to be.

She said that you don't wear a watch.

She said you don't believe in time.

Very Mariah Carrey of you.

Is that Mariah's thing?

She literally just gave an interview and said that she doesn't believe in the concept of time.

Like she will arrive when she arrives.

She doesn't celebrate birthday, like to such an extent that she doesn't celebrate her birthday.

I can't see you not having a party for your birthday.

Well, you know what?

You know how I feel, Jackie?

I feel that like wherever I am at that point in time, I bring it.

Yeah.

So even if I'm, even if I'm a little late, and it's not, it's, it's not like I try to be late.

I don't, I don't try to be late or anything.

Perfectly on time.

I just want to say thank you.

Perfectly on time.

Thank Thank you so much.

We really appreciate that.

You know, parking's a little tight or anything like that.

Yeah, yeah, no, but they blocked off the back parking lot, which is where I always used to park here.

Now I have to parallel park and I don't know how.

But that's yours out there?

The park?

Oh, no, everyone thought so.

No, I have a Tesla, and thankfully it parked itself because I couldn't have done it.

All right.

All right.

So the Tesla parked itself.

That's awesome.

Yeah, but they test me every time when the back parking lot's not open and I have to like scoop into the spot and I'm just like sweating.

It's a lot.

Are you a good driver?

I think so.

I could see that.

I think, yeah, I like to get behind the wheel.

By the way, you got to see the truck we're building.

It'll be done in about a week.

What kind of truck are you building?

It's the big boommobile.

Oh, my God.

Wait, I need more details.

What is the original truck shape?

The original truck is

a Ford F-150.

Okay.

So it's a Ford F-150.

We upgraded the motor.

We are putting a suspension lift on it.

We're putting oversized tires on it.

You guys should have been on Pint My Ride.

You got to go with my favorite.

Instead of Pint My Ride, it's Boom My Truck.

That's what we're doing.

Boom My Truck.

Wait, and then what's the the plan for the truck?

Yeah, it's going to be our driver.

We're going to drive around in it, have some fun, and then see where it takes us, make some content with it.

Are you going to drive it to pick up Big Justice from school?

Yeah, that's our truck now.

Like, that's your new family car.

No, I'm obsessed.

I need to see a picture after this.

All right,

I have some pictures of the process.

Right.

It's almost on.

We're about a week out.

Are you so excited?

Of course.

How long has it been in ideation?

Ideation was probably about two months in ideation, and then we've been about a month on the build-out.

So it's been about a three-month process.

Is Big Justice going to get his permit soon?

Ashley is.

Big Justice is only 12.

I don't know when people start driving.

I got my license at 30.

So I'm like, whenever I see a 12-year-old, I'm like, they can probably drive and I can't.

Big Justice can drive, though.

Of course he can.

What can he do?

I don't know.

I haven't found anything the kid can't do.

I haven't found anything the kid can't do.

So your wife is really like what runs the machine.

And then, so you get to just be you.

And how do Ashley and Big Justice like work together?

What's their co-working relationship like?

Big Justice loves getting out there, making people happy.

He comes up with great ideas.

The kid wakes up every morning with that, we got to do this.

He's a creator.

He's a creator.

He's a creator.

Loves the Pokemon right now.

I mean, he's all over the place with Pokemon, with sports cards.

He's really getting into sports cards.

He loves that.

Ashley is very, very passionate about the business.

Ashley is,

Ashley won't put anything out until it's perfect.

Yeah.

Like

Ashley's content goes through rounds and rounds of editing.

Like she wants that thing perfect to the point where I'm like, Ashley, this is good.

You got to put it out now.

Yeah.

Ugh, the play of being a perfectionist.

Don't I know it.

But she, she loves it.

I mean, we were at, we were at VidCon.

I mean, she took a thousand pictures.

She was loving it.

Ashley loves the life.

You guys were also just at the Kids' Choice Awards.

Kids Choice Awards.

And apparently it's not fun.

It is.

It's really fun.

It is.

Getting slimed.

After it happened.

Like, when it happens, you're happy it happened.

Yeah, it's iconic.

It's

rite of passage it's a rite of passage i'm so happy it happened now while you're sitting there and you got the slime all over you you're kind of thinking all right i'm in a suit i'm slimed i got no shower what am i doing yeah so you're starting to think that it it the the slime dries in about a half hour and you feel fine okay yeah and then you went to an after party we go to the after party slimed ashley's hair stuck to her head um

i i think we got the worst of it in that row we got a pretty we got a pretty strong blast of it yeah so but that's what you go to the kca's for that's what they're all about

right i mean we we came we came to the after party we said we we got slime to people we're like awesome it was you you did it yeah that is so fun i need to ask you about the rizzler oh i wouldn't be doing my job if i didn't ask about the rizzer

how do you know the rizzer like

please how did you meet the rizzler all right so rizzler's iconic video the iconic black panther video so one night big justice comes to me with the phone and he's got tick tock on he's like dad you got to see this kid so i'm looking at this kid in a black panther costume it says it fits into your seven and And I'm seven.

You know, the kid's busting out of the costume.

So I said, we got to meet these guys.

We got to meet this kid.

I got to reach out to the father.

So I just messaged right there.

I'm like, hey, it's AJ and Big Justice.

We absolutely love your videos.

Love your content.

We got to meet up sometime.

So Uncle Savasta, Brian, Rizzler's father, he hits me right back.

He's like, wow, is it really you guys?

I'm like, yeah, let's get on FaceTime right now.

So I would say within a few minutes of the video, we got Rizzler and his father on FaceTime, me and Big Justice on FaceTime.

It was just our first meeting.

I'll never forget it.

And we were just going back and forth.

Wow, I can't believe it's you.

Wow, I can't believe it's you.

So

we're like, all right, we find out that they're up in New Jersey.

And we says, okay, okay, we're coming to New Jersey for the summer.

First thing we're doing is we're coming to see you.

So we make an appointment.

We meet at American Dream.

Love American Dream.

Oh, my God.

I just went to the United States.

When we were in New York, we went twice.

We spent the whole day there.

Not enough people know about the American Dream.

It's literally heaven on earth.

People got to know more about American Dream, more about Mall of America.

We recently went to Mall of America.

Bring back malls.

Like, they're so awesome.

Bring back malls, right?

Yeah.

Like, especially the American Dream.

You can ski.

You could ski.

You could do mini golf.

It was crazy.

My kids had the best time.

Well, they have a great idea, American Dream, so they're bringing a ton of us creators in.

Okay.

And they have Mr.

Beast's burgers.

Beast burgers.

I had a Beast grilled cheese.

Yeah.

I need a Costco guy double chunk chocolate cookie to wash it down.

You know, we're kind of working on that.

It's been in talks for a long time, and that's a real reason why we haven't launched our own cookie yet is because we really want to try to get the Costco deal done.

Yeah.

Oh, I mean that would just be like so full.

So you met the Rizzler at American Dreams.

We met the Rizzler at Toys R Us.

This story is an American dream so far.

It's an American dream story.

So we met the Rizzler at Toys R Us.

We meet the Rizzler at Toys R Us.

Someone says.

Just listen to that.

Now, this was before he was the Rizzler.

And they had those horses that you could go on around the, I guess they were.

I think we did that too.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, it's more of like the little kids.

But they're like these little like life-sized horses that you could ride around the American Dream.

You know, the place is insane you guys and then hit the slopes there's so much to do the place is enormous you can be there for a week you're you're not gonna run out of things to do we took in an ice hockey game it was like a women's ice hockey right in the middle a women's ice hockey game was going on the kids loved it oh it's so fun in that mall so now we do our first video with the rizzler now at toys r us it was at toys r us video explodes i think it's had 20 million views so now we had just met them 10 minutes ago right and we're done doing the video and we say uh my sister's expecting us for dinner she lives about a half hour from american Dream.

I said, Come on, you're coming with us.

And we say, Rizzler, come on.

Big Justice says, Rizzler, come on, jump in with us.

So, Rizzler now jumps in our car.

We're driving away.

I call Uncle Sebastian.

I'm like, dude, I'm so sorry.

Like, this all just happened.

Like, I know you just met us a half hour ago.

We got your kid here, but

we're all good here.

We're having a great time.

He's like, no, no, no, man.

I already feel like family.

Let's go.

So we arrive at my sister's house.

And my sister,

she like,

she compartmentalizes everything.

Like, tonight is dinner with the family.

Tomorrow night is shopping with whatever so us bringing someone else to the house like throws a monkey wrench in her whole plans like that's just her style so i walk in the house she's got chicken color she's frying everything up and she's like who did you bring to my house i'm like no no no teresa just wait just wait rizzler comes walking through the door her jaw drops she goes where did you find this kid

I think that's the question everyone's been asking.

Where did you find this kid?

And it's at the American Dream Mall.

It was at American Dream Mall.

And so you guys are just like fast friends.

And you know when you meet

and like Big Justice and him are just like BFFs.

People think he's related to you.

I think Cuddy and I have like done deep dives on the show.

Like,

what is the Rizzler relation to the Costco guys?

And it's just like internet friends turned real life friends.

Turns family.

It's better than family now.

And you got to walk by like Big Justice room sometimes at night.

So, and now the other kid, Tony Cash, is involved.

Have you seen him yet?

I think I've seen a little bit, but I'm very slow.

I'm like, like an old person.

So like things reach me late.

So Tony Cash is like the new 12-year-old that could go somewhere between 12 and 57 years old.

And so now I walk by Big Justice room at night, right?

And they're playing Fortnite.

So now just imagine how conic this is.

You got Big Justice, you got the Rizzler, you got Tony Cash playing Fortnite, right?

And you got Rizzler on FaceTime saying, no, Big Justice, turn right.

We got to hide in the fort.

And then you got Rizzler and then you got Tony Cash.

And he's like, guys, we got to climb to the top of the building and we got to smash them with the, with, with the Oogle Peen.

And we got just nuts.

And it's the three of them just bouncing off each other playing fortnite no and it's like they need a live stream up oh i think a live stream would go nuts yeah yeah for sure you guys used to do a show you actually used to do it in this studio with

i used to you i mean you do a lot of live streams how's that for you guys that's the tough part for us because of our schedule because right now big justice is playing baseball so we never know if they win when we're gonna have the next game and then we're traveling like crazy so i mean we just spent the week out in los angeles we have

we have um new york coming up we have Texas coming up.

I'm gonna be wrestling again.

Oh, fun AEW for all elite wrestling.

I am gonna be wrestling again July 12th at

AEW all-in at Globe Life in Arlington, Texas.

That sounds so fun.

The streaming is tough for us because we don't have a schedule, yeah.

Understood, so then you just like make the videos and that like you can bank, right?

Go in content mode.

Understood.

Well, what does self-care look for look like for the Costco guys?

Like, how do you wind down?

How do you like, do you turn down at all?

Like, turn off?

No, not really.

Turning off makes me nervous.

Your wife's like, no, he doesn't.

I hate turning off.

Yeah.

I go until I crash and I go to sleep.

And then I wake up the next morning and do it again.

What time do you wake up in the morning?

I would say about five, maybe between five and six.

Yeah, early riser.

Yeah.

Understood.

What were you doing before Costco guys like hit it big?

Wow, it was crazy.

So I was a regional manager for a nationwide mortgage lender.

Nice.

So different speed.

Different speed, you know, always grinding.

Yeah.

Always grinding.

And that's, that's the interesting thing here, Jackie, is our story is not exactly a rags to riches story.

I always grinded.

I always provided for the family.

We lived in Boca Raton.

We always had a good life.

This just allows us to really be more of who we are.

Yeah.

I don't think as a regional manager for a nationwide mortgage on the list, I'm very grateful for the career.

I love the company I was with.

I wasn't really myself.

That's not really what I felt I was born to do.

Yeah.

This right here, right now, content creation with my family, pro wrestling, music, this, this is why, making people happy.

Yeah.

Making people happy.

That's why I was put on this earth.

No, I love that.

It is the best feeling to like be doing what you love as yourself and with your family, which I couldn't endorse any further.

We didn't get to talk about the music career.

You guys dropped a song that was seriously like a cultural shift.

Yeah.

What was that like?

How did that come about?

It was iconic.

So how it came about is one day we're driving home from lunch, me and Big Justice,

and I grew up in the late 80s, huge fan of Run DMC and the Beastie Boys.

So we're playing Run DMC, it's tricky.

And along the way, he and I are just going back and forth, freestyling, shouting out boom, and all that.

And I said, I got an idea.

We got to make a song.

So I reached out to a few different TikTok musicians and I said, look, I have this idea for this song.

Here's kind of the beat that I had in mind.

And I had the beat of We Bring the Boom the whole time.

Okay.

I was thinking the whole time.

Bomb, bum, bum, bomb, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bom, bum, bum.

I have it.

Like, I have a video of me giving that beat so a couple of tick tock musicians they uh said you know i'm i i i have so much lined up right now so i'm not able to do that um right now and i said well we got to kind of move on this so i'll reach out to you for something else but then i found rj pays another jersey guy uh great guitar guy and he had reached out to us and said hey you want to do a song together so i was like rj this is the idea i have in mind and i bring up rj right now because rj nailed it take one uh he sent us we bring the boom and by the way jackie some of our other music, I think we may have gotten a little complicated with it.

So I think our next song, we're really going back to basics.

There's a next song.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

When's it coming?

I'm going to say around August 15th.

Around August 15th.

Around August 15th.

And I'm going to give you a little

Easter egg on this one.

It is our first song that doesn't include the word boom in the title.

Oh, in the title.

I'm like, yeah, there's going to be a boom in there, but it does.

It's our very first song that doesn't include the word boom in the title.

Oh, I wonder what it's called.

Could people like guess the title if they like?

no, no, it's just

okay.

No, I'll give you another Easter egg on it.

It's a song I probably wrote, I'm thinking right around the time Big Justice was born.

So probably around 2013, I wrote the song and found it.

And the other day, like, I was thinking, I was like, wait a minute, I had that song.

I go through Dropbox and I'm just like trying words, I'm trying searches, and I found it.

And our jaws all dropped.

We're like, we have to remake this song.

Oh, wow.

So you've always been musical.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I've always loved music.

Oh, I love that.

And now you're able to incorporate it.

So real quick, so RJ Payson nails We Bring the Boom on the first try.

Okay.

So now, this is great.

There's more to this.

Mama Justice is smiling right now.

Okay,

so here we go.

We're on the toaster.

We're about to get toasty here, right?

Let's do it.

And musical.

We're so we love to sing.

We'll do a live rendition.

We're going to do a live rendition of We Bring the Boom.

I would love that.

We bring the boom.

That's what we do.

We bring the boom.

We bring the boom to you.

So now, it's a thursday and ashley was so into her middle school president of the middle school straight ashley's never gotten anything but an a in her entire school life go ashley go ashley ashley's never gotten anything but an a her whole school life so she's now so excited that big justice is now gonna join her middle school she's going up to high school big justice was supposed to go to the middle school we get to the open house Nobody cared about the school.

Big Justice got bum rushed.

So we get out of the car.

It's him.

They got a cheer ready for him.

They had a song ready for him, right?

So now he gets there.

They're taking a thousand pictures.

So we meet with the principal.

The principal says, I don't know how to handle this.

Like, I've had the child of a celebrity here before, but I've never had a celebrity here before.

Yeah.

So right then and there, I say, all right, well, he's done with regular school.

This isn't going to happen.

Now, Ashley and Mama Justice, it took them a little while to adjust to that.

So we get home that night.

We have a family meeting.

And Ashley is kind of saying, you know, but the last year of my life, I worked for this and now we're not normal anymore.

And now, Big Justice isn't going to go to school without bitch.

Impossible.

Our life has changed forever.

So now

everything calms down a little bit.

Saturday morning.

Now we're now onto Saturday morning.

And I wake up.

I'm like, all right, come on, we're going to the studio.

And Mama Justice, what do you mean we're going to the studio?

I'm like, hey, I got it all set up.

Come on, we're going to the studio.

So now, Big Justice and I have been preparing for this.

So now we get into the studio.

Bomb, bomb, bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb.

We bring the boom.

That's what we do.

We bring the boom.

We bring the boom to you.

And Mama Justice's jaw drops.

She was like, this is a hit.

I didn't know we were going to the studio to do this.

So now right away, Mama Justice has lawyers on the phone.

She's got management on the phone.

She's

calling everybody she knows in the music industry, right?

So now we record our parts.

I'm like, God, Ashley, Mama Justice, it's your time in the booth.

What are you talking about?

We're going to the place.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Go to the booth.

So now, Ashley, from Thursday night with, we're not normal anymore, to Saturday in the booth, we bring the boom.

That's what we do.

I love it.

And then she got into it.

Oh, she got, she never went back.

She loved it.

Maybe it's okay to not be normal anymore.

This is the new normal.

This is our new normal.

So then after that, after that weekend, like Big Justice couldn't go to regular school anymore.

No, he went on.

Too big for middle school.

Yeah, we have private tutoring now.

I understand.

That makes sense.

And that way you can be flexible and really enjoy everything that you've built.

I mean, we're on the road 15 days a month right now.

Yeah.

Yeah.

it's, we're going to be, so we have, we just got back from LA.

Mama Justice is loving the whole trip down memory lane over there.

So, yeah, we just got back from L.A.

in a couple of weeks, we're heading out to Texas, and then right from there, we're heading up to New York.

Okay, great.

Well, where can, I mean, everyone already follows you, but first, anyone living under a rock, where can everyone follow you?

Keep up with the Costco guys.

Here at Stream New Music, August 15th, right in time for Charlie's birthday.

I'm going to play it at his party.

Boom.

Yeah, how many booms would you give the toast, would you say?

Five big booms.

Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

And make that last one up.

Boom.

Thank you so much.

My life is made.

Claudia's life is seriously going to be made.

I'm going to send her that right after you.

Claudia and Ben.

Congratulations, Claudia and Ben.

What's the baby's name?

Ruby.

Oh, Ruby.

Congratulations.

Cute.

Thank you for coming on the show.

Thank you.

Congratulations on everything that you guys have accomplished.

We look forward to seeing everything that you do.

Like, you really do bring so much positivity and joy, and it has just been wonderful to watch your ascent.

Thank you so much.

Means so much.

Thanks, everyone.

And to everyone out there on the toast, here's five big booms: boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

Love you.

Bye.