Face Card is Lethal with Lexi Wood: Wednesday, May 28th, 2025

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Good morning, girlies.

It's the toast.

It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts.

It's your favorite show, the fast-five things you need to know.

We'll start your day off swirly.

It's the toast.

I sound amazing.

Welcome back to the toast.

I am so excited.

Today is a very special episode because I am sitting down with Lexi Wood from Summerhouse.

Woo!

We talk about you all the time, at least once a week when we recap Summerhouse.

And this was your first season on the show and you're one of our faves.

So when I was in New York, I just had to come and talk to you because we're in the middle of the season.

Things are really reaching like a tipping point.

And the reunion actually airs tonight.

So we'll probably get answers on like a lot of the things from this season.

But I'm so excited that you're sitting here.

You're so sweet.

It's so nice to meet you.

You're literally the same like from TV and from Instagram, which is always like, I feel like the nicest thing you could say to someone, especially this day and age.

That's so nice.

Yeah.

So welcome to the show.

I'm so excited to be here.

Do you listen to the toast?

You can't.

Of course.

Okay, cool.

So many people will send it to me and be like, oh my gosh, they're talking about you.

And I'm like, hey, oh my God, the girls.

The girly.

The girls.

No, I love it.

I love just like the chat.

Oh, that's what we do.

Chit chat.

So that's what we're going to do.

And I want to get to know you even more because you were on this first season of Summerhouse.

I feel like it was actually probably a year ago right now, or maybe later in the summer when we all like the audience heard that you were going to be on the show yeah i remember claudia and i like reported on it i think there was even like whispers that you had like were seeing jesse or like that you guys had connected and we were just like living for it i feel like you were such a great casting in theory and then also in practice Thank you so much.

Wait, that actually means so much to me.

Yeah, I definitely feel like I, I think it was the first weekend that we were in the house that everybody was like, oh, wait, Lexi is in the house.

Yeah.

So how did it come to be?

Because before you were on Summer House, like you are a model, you are a very successful influencer.

So I feel like sometimes when someone like that goes on the show who has a name, they actually wind up being kind of disappointing.

And it's like, but then sometimes you pick someone obscure and it's like, who is that?

So that's why I felt like this was such a great casting in both like in the season as well.

So how did you come to the show or did the show come to you?

So I knew Amanda

from like a couple years ago.

We ended up being like at an event together, sitting next to each other.

And me, Paige, and Amanda had been following each other on Instagram.

And so

I ended up meeting Amanda like in real life finally.

And we just connected immediately.

It was so fun.

We like flew out to the Hamptons together and then we sat next to each other all dinner, then drove back to the city together.

And we're, we like live in the same neighborhood.

So we just connected immediately.

And then she actually asked me, she's like, would you ever go on summer house?

And I was like, um,

I don't know, just because I, she was the only person that I knew at the time.

So I was like, let me like try to meet or not try, just like, let me see if the universe kind of like puts me in the path of other people.

And then I met Paige officially during fashion week.

We sat next to each other.

And again, it was just like

great.

And then I met Sierra through mutual friends.

So I was like, okay, at least I have three familiar faces and Kyle, obviously, because Amanda, I had like talked to Kyle on the phone and stuff.

So I was like, you know what?

I feel good.

I feel good.

At least I know some more people.

And then when I got asked by casting, they were like, would you

send send in like a casting tape so we can get to know you?

And it was, it's actually a lengthy casting process.

Like, just because you know somebody on the cast, like, it does not mean you're gonna get on at all.

So, it really works that way where like someone comes on because they're someone's friend, not because

casting, yeah, that was my situation.

They always ask you, like, in casting, like, who do you know in the Bravo verse?

Right.

Um, and thankfully, I did know a couple other people,

like Jesse,

yeah, yeah, yeah.

Um, I know, like, Rebecca McGoff, I know, um, like, Uba DM'd me the other day.

I think Uba and I had met at a fashion show.

Um, and then who else?

I'm trying to think.

Just like you kind of, being in the industry, like, I'm sure you know, you run into

you guys are like all doing a lot of this similar thing.

Yeah, so I kind of was familiar with other people.

Um, and then, yeah, so in my experience, that's how it was.

Like, I knew

I had some familiar faces going in.

But yeah, just because like you know somebody that the casting process is still like so in-depth, they really like get to know you and like really see the vibe so it really has to be a match between like knowing people and then casting yeah like agreeing and then there you are yeah and i feel like a lot of part of your genesis of coming on the show was bailey as well yes where dundasa bailey what happened to bailey i heard rumors i think we all like heard rumors but they actually don't seem to like make sense to me yeah that like she was coming back to the city and like telling people during the week and like talking about what happened on the show okay yeah because i was like what did you hear?

Yeah, that's what I heard.

Okay.

That she was like, kind of just like breaking that code of conduct.

Yeah.

So I, I didn't know that.

I know that she had a boyfriend in the city and she was just like, she was not telling the house and like hiding us from her story.

So she was like keeping two very separate worlds.

Yeah.

And then also I had heard like she had a boyfriend.

So it's like, why?

Yeah.

Like, sure, you can have a boyfriend on the show, but it's like more interesting if you don't, especially if you're like a new person in the house.

I think it was mainly like if she, if she was just like, yeah, I have a boyfriend.

I think all of us would be like, amazing, bring him around.

Like, dang.

But I think it was the fact that she like kept it so separate and like would hide us from her stories if she posted him.

Like she just kept it so like she would lie.

Yeah.

So I think, I think everybody, I think she just stopped coming.

And honestly, I think they're still together.

And like, I good.

Yeah.

I'm like, you know what?

You maybe come with her?

Did you know her?

So we had just met like a couple weeks before.

Okay.

Yeah.

So we weren't, we didn't know each other too much, but I loved it when like having another girly in the house like a newbie.

Yeah, for sure somebody that I feel like Jesse and Wes came in together and like having two boys come in I feel like was so good for them.

Yeah, and so I was so excited to have another girl

come in and just like in the morning we text him like do you want to meet in the kitchen like get coffee?

Because obviously we're new to the house like we also wanted to respect that that's ev that's everybody else's house for yeah, so many years now.

Yeah.

Um so yeah definitely like high school a little bit where it's like you feel like a freshman.

Yeah.

And they're seniors and that's just an intimidating dynamic no matter who you are.

Yeah.

And that our bedrooms are downstairs.

So it's kind of like Bailey's room, which was now in Emruel's room, and then the kitchen, living room, and my room.

Got it.

Yeah.

So we were kind of like downstairs.

Everybody else was upstairs other than Kyle and Amanda's master bedroom.

But I, yeah, it was.

Got it.

Okay.

That makes sense.

That like kind of tracks with what we saw.

And then also

Emruel being a new cast member as well.

What's your take on Emruel's revolving door?

Honestly, okay.

So I think one, that's kind of like what a share house is, right?

It's like, you're always going to have that one person that's just a flirty guy that's going to be bringing people in and out.

I think that maybe he underestimated just maybe like what it is.

Like I think all of us being older, we aren't necessarily, it's not a frat house.

So I do think that maybe he was perceiving like it's just a regular kind of

sharehouse.

Oh, we're all doing this.

But I think because there are relationships in the house, there are people that were in long distance relationships, there are people that are just like wanting to have a fun summer with their friends.

There's, so I think that he may be underestimated, but he's honestly such a sweet guy.

Yeah.

And I do feel like he,

I also love though that he fully owned.

He's like, this is where I'm at in my life.

Like I had long-term relationships.

And right now I want to just be

with everyone.

Yeah.

Which I actually, I think it's admirable for him to just own it like that.

Yeah, I feel like the part, it's like, that is what a a sharehouse is and like that's what you would hope people do is like meet people it's like but he forgot he's like on a tv show and like you're here to entertain and like we don't even get to see the faces of the people not that i'm like dying

i don't even think i saw them

i didn't even i didn't even say see that i do think they cut out like not even blurred the face like they literally wouldn't show us a body part of the people that he brought home which is like new yeah that's so interesting i've actually never thought about it i think it's maybe there was just a lot there so they were maybe just like look at editing-wise, it's just easier to just cut them all the way out.

That's funny.

It's honestly like been a really funny bit of the show, but it is like a little random.

So, um, I want to talk about you and get to know you a little more because it is so interesting how you like came from this world a little bit before going on reality TV.

Did you ever think you would go on?

Like, what was your thoughts on like going on TV before you did it?

It was funny.

I've never really thought about it.

I remember a couple years ago, somebody just in general was like, Would you ever want to have a show like alone?

alone?

And I was like, oh, like interesting.

At the time, I was like, no,

just things in my life.

And obviously, I would want to share like my family and my friends.

And my dad's a firefighter.

So he's like, well, I can't go on it.

My friends are like normal.

Like my one friend's a, um,

she's a secretary at a high school.

Like they're, yeah, they're just normal people.

So I was like, okay, if I can't share a lot of my life, why would I do it?

Solely.

So then when Summerhouse kind of came, other than than that, like I'd never even thought about it.

And then when Summerhouse kind of came around, I was like, oh, wait, this might be fun because I do love being vulnerable.

Like, I think being vulnerable and having the confidence to say insecurities and connect with people is honestly so powerful.

I was so excited.

I was like, this is probably like the platform where I feel like my heart can flourish the most.

Yeah.

And I can be the most open and the most.

like, yeah, vulnerable and authentic.

And so I was really excited.

And I also feel like it was cool because I do have so much to share.

I have had a 17-year career in modeling and influencing.

And I do feel like that's like a different

avenue of the industry that I hadn't tapped into.

Also, like the two worlds really complement each other.

So how has being on the show affected your like established career that you're doing already?

Like, have you seen more of what you're already doing or like a bunch of new stuff?

It's funny.

I feel like it's pretty.

still like consistent with what I was always doing.

Obviously, like there's other like little things that are more like household things and companies or restaurants or whatever that have reached out to me since.

But honestly, I've just been doing the same kind of things.

Like I'm coming out with the collection with Hanky Panky that I've been working on for two years.

So

way before the show anyway.

So I do feel like obviously it's given me.

more of a voice, which has been so nice because modeling is very, you are just a one-dimensional person, which I do feel like I've

been really pleasantly surprised with being able to be like, oh my gosh, like it's really cool that people can see that I'm not just one-dimensional.

Yeah.

No, and I also think, and I think I said this in one of our recaps, like your personality is so, it's kind of like unexpected based on like what you do and like how you look.

Like you're so bubbly and you're so sweet.

And I'm like, you could be like, get away with being the world's biggest bitch if you wanted, like, just so you know.

Wait, first of all, thank you so much.

I, yeah, I really appreciate that.

Wow, that's face card.

Yeah, that's never thought about that.

And I said that to Claudia, not because i'm not on tick tock she's like her face card is off the charts i'm like yeah i think i think i know what you mean that makes sense because i watch you on watch what happens live also you've been on two times this year right and yet so that's also we get to see a different side of people on the show when they go on watch what happens live because it's like totally live and you're like put on the spot yeah and you just like have such a great presence.

No, thank you so much.

I definitely feel like it's been really nice again, just because it is very one-dimensional.

And honestly, I've never really like, it's so funny in modeling.

Maybe it's just my experience in modeling being so young when I started in the industry, but I've never actually thought about like,

this sounds so stupid, but like my looks or anything.

I've always been like, with modeling, you, it could come down to a freckle.

Like you might not get the job over like you have a beauty mark that they don't want there type thing.

And so I've never actually thought about it.

And I always think like, oh, like I want to go to set and make a friend.

I want to show my personality.

Like I know that there's so many beautiful people in the world.

Like I want to just be like a good person where people are like, wait, that's like my girl.

Like, yeah, they have, it's like a soft place where they can land.

I never wanted to just be like, oh, like, I'm a model.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm like, being a model, my mom always says this to me.

She's like, Your looks are the least interesting thing about you.

And that to me, she's just said it forever.

And that to me has always meant so much because modeling is obviously about your looks.

Yeah.

But it can like once you're in it, you're like, oh, but it's actually not.

Like, it's about what the energy that you bring and being able to make friendships and just be like a good person on set that people want to travel with and work with for 12 plus hours a day.

Yeah, totally.

And I feel like, especially now, in like, especially as like modeling has turned into influencing and you do more on-camera work in general, like even Instagram stories, like where people get to see your personality, like it definitely pays off to have one.

It's funny because I feel like I actually got popular on Instagram because I used to go live on Instagram every single morning when I was getting ready.

I'd be like disheveled in my PJs drinking my coffee, like either fresh out of a shower, like still wet or like in my big men's PJs.

And I would just like sit and have girly chat and I would just be like, let's get ready together.

Let's drink coffee together.

And I would go live for like three hours every morning.

Oh, wow.

When was this?

Probably in like right before, actually, I guess it was.

a couple years before the pandemic.

Okay.

So I've had a big following for a while.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I would just kind of

do that that every single morning.

Then I remember I went into the pandemic with like, I think half a million followers.

Yeah.

And just from literally going live every morning.

Wow.

That's kind of like a reality show anyway.

So I do feel like that's like what you're doing what you're supposed to be doing.

Yeah.

And I loved it.

Like I would always be like, that's why I feel like interviews and stuff, I've had so much fun because that's almost where I love the conversation.

I love the back and forth.

I love.

And you do a podcast also.

Yes.

I have a six to nine podcast with my mom and sister.

Yeah, it's so fun just having that chat with your family.

I mean, you literally know firsthand.

No, for sure.

You get so much.

I feel like you get a lot of flack on the show from your boyfriend and from

people

in the house for like always being with your mom and your sister.

As someone who is always with my family and always wants to be with my family, and when I'm not with them, like I'm telling them what I'm doing or I'm talking about them with the people that I'm with, like, I just can't relate to people being so like shocked and gooped and gagged that like you're with your family all the time.

Yeah, I feel like it's an asset.

Like to me, I'm like, I'm sorry.

The most successful people in the world, Taylor Swift, her family manages her.

Like there's so many people in the world that actually work with their family.

And

for some reason, yeah, people were just like, oh, she's always with her parents and her family.

But I think that's a nice thing.

I'll say it like an insult.

I'm like, where's the insult?

It's also funny because I feel like guys specifically, they always start a relationship.

They're like, well, I want a girl that's close to her family.

I want a girl that's

driven and all this stuff.

Then they actually hang out with with you and they're like, she's too driven.

She hangs out with her family too much.

She's too busy.

What?

Yeah.

Like, did you feel like that when you met your husband?

Oh, definitely.

I'm one of those people that's with my family too much.

And yeah, I don't know.

I guess if you're not someone that's like that, it like is jarring, but it's like, well, if I wasn't with my family, then I would be with my friends.

They just happen to be the same people.

But like, still, it wouldn't be you.

Yeah.

I'm like, look at that.

It'd be like me time, you know?

Yes.

I think me time is so important.

Yeah, like it's so pivotal to even just like your soul recharging.

And I feel like sometimes relationships can be like, obviously, so hot and having you're so excited and like all this stuff.

But I also think it's so important to have like days apart from each other.

Like, especially in the dating phase.

Yeah.

You have to miss each other.

Yes.

Like, I definitely like cabin fever is a very real thing.

Like, even though something sounds like a good idea when you're like so close together, like it starts to go sour a little bit.

You have to like make make yourself scarce it's definitely like a game but i actually wanted to talk about your relationship with jesse obviously is like the main story of the season and as much as people i know people like say that you guys aren't in a good match and obviously at the end of the day it didn't work out okay i was like i really saw in the beginning like how much you guys liked each other i think on a personality level like it is a like a good match because you guys were having a lot of fun but i just think in terms of like what people are willing to change or do to be in a relationship you guys weren't matched in that sense Yeah.

But I was really rooting for you guys in the beginning.

And like, what was it like in the beginning?

Obviously, now it's gone south on the show.

It's gone south in real life.

I feel like in the last few weeks, you guys went from not really talking about each other to now spilling the beans on the relationship.

Is that because you wanted to give viewers like the chance to think maybe you're still together?

Like just to not spoil the show?

It's funny.

This being my new season, like my first season, I'm new to like everything.

I think, so they'll send us out on almost like um not like a press tour, but like I guess like a press tour.

It's like they kind of stagger it.

So everyone gets to have their voice, everyone, but because I'm new, obviously I'm not going to be the first person that they're sending out.

So they, exactly.

So they just kind of like waited weeks and weeks.

I don't know what the thought process was behind kind of how they're sending people out and where they're sending them to and who's reached out.

And I don't know all of that.

But I know for me, they, they weren't even putting me in front of press for weeks and weeks and weeks.

That makes sense.

Yeah.

Until things like go south on the show and now you're going to talk about them.

Yeah.

And I think they, so now it just seems like a lot of me talking, but it's honestly like, I think everybody actually has had these opportunities.

Yeah.

And I think obviously because there was so much going on in the relationship all summer, it just feels maybe louder.

Yeah, but like it's now him too and now like everyone everyone in the house, like everyone's sort of like getting in on it as we watch things sort of like dissolve on the show.

But you had said early in the season, which I like kept harking back to, even when he was like not being the greatest.

And I felt so bad because I'm like, she's going to get her heart broken.

But you said, like, even if I get my heart broken, like for jumping in too fast, like, that's how I am.

I'm a romantic person.

Like, I wouldn't.

not do that, even if I know that it's going to end badly.

Yeah.

Like, do you still feel that way?

Or have you been like hardened a little by this?

It's funny.

So I am so the type of person that I'm like, I

would rather have loved.

Yeah, I'd rather have loved than lost.

I will say, I think watching it back, like when you're in the moment, it's so mutual, right?

Like it's just like you're, that's the camaraderie.

It's like going back and forth.

And, but then I think watching it back, it is such a special, unique situation where then you do see things said behind your back.

You do see, and then you're like, oh, well, if I had that knowledge, I would have made other decisions.

And then it does make you think like, oh, oh real life you just don't have the knowledge like you just don't know and like you're not being recorded so

they they could have been talking about you the entire time but because you're not on a reality show you just didn't know right so i think for me it's not that i've been hardened because that is one thing i've i even after the season and i've had people tag me and things being like well if lexi is like going through this like i don't want to date.

This is awful.

Like I'm watching this girl just like kind of get walked all over and all of this stuff.

And I never want that to be the message.

Like I want people to date and love and get their heart broken.

Cause at the end of the day, that's very pivotal to like human growth.

Yeah.

And I think being in that moment, like being feeling that love is so special.

And it's so rare to actually have somebody that like cares about you as much as you care about them.

And like that.

I don't know, it's like magical to me.

And it still is.

I definitely think that I learned a big lesson

maybe don't trust people so much right away because I put 100% trust in until somebody breaks it.

And then it just starts to dwindle away.

Whereas I think that I should probably let people build my trust instead of just kind of being like, here it is.

Here's my heart.

I don't know.

I kind of like the first one.

I definitely feel like you have building trust sounds like the right path.

Yeah.

But I do feel like people deserve, especially like, you know, good faith people who you like, like they deserve your trust until they've lost lost it.

Yes.

Also, I do think that.

And I feel like punishing the next person for how Jesse acted is also not right.

And then you see people going into relationships with like baggage and walls and they can't bring them down.

Yes.

I always say you can't bleed on people that didn't cut you.

Right.

And like you just can't do the same thing over and over and expect for a different result.

Exactly.

Exactly.

Conflicting messages.

Yes.

And somewhere in the middle.

Yes, exactly.

And I do feel like, I do feel like my person's out there.

And I do, I've been actually so lucky.

Like I have some of the best exes ever.

Like I'm famous and handsome, we know.

And like I'm still friends with a lot of them.

And I'm just like, I was so lucky to have been like cared by from you.

It didn't work out, but like I want the best for my exes.

I'm like, you are such a great person.

And like, I am just so happy for them when they move on.

And I'm so happy for their life to kind of like flourish and find their person.

And I know that my person's out there.

And I know that my exes also also support me in finding my person because we do see each other's hearts on such a different level.

And yeah, I just feel like I've had such a great experience with exes now.

I know so much.

Having

to that place.

Yeah.

And look at, I think at the end of the day, I

unfortunately, maybe as my Libra cusp,

I think people having accountability is so important.

And if I do anything, I would love to take accountability.

If somebody actually tells me a hundred percent, I will take accountability.

But

I

think

I'm very just like indifferent now.

Obviously, it's been so long too.

There is more wounds when you're watching, and it kind of gets brought up, and you're like, oh my God, like that's like almost every week, it's been almost like a stab to the heart in a different way.

Right.

I wanted to ask you, like, when you're watching these episodes for the first time, do you, and some of it you've you've heard from people like the toast like you heard about things so you were prepared But like when you're watching it Do you feel like it was actually worse than how you were told it like even the flirting with Sierra like it was made out to be less or more than what it actually was I think everything was more but I also think don't think that that's anybody's responsibility.

Oh, no, no, no, but that's just like how it like comes down the pipeline and it's like you could say they were flirting exactly there are degrees of flirting so like it actually or sometimes someone might say they were flirting and then you might watch it it back and be like, actually, I think they're just being friendly.

Like, not feel exactly.

Like, it was more.

Yeah, I think there was a lot of things that I kind of like realized that were a lot more.

Again, I do feel like I am in a space where if somebody takes accountability, okay, perfect.

Let's like, will he have access to me like he did and like access to my like softness and my heart like he did?

No, but also that's okay.

Yeah, that's okay.

Not everyone has to like love me so much.

Not everyone has to like i totally respect that everybody can have different tiers of access to you and he's somebody that will have to like build and that's a journey if he wants to take it or not but either way we have mutual friends and i really really respect outside of the summer house no in the summer house okay okay i'm like yeah no we have mutual and maybe like a couple now that like we've been in the same circle now for the last year um outside but like i respect like we have the same friends i don't want our friends to be in the middle of it.

I don't want like, that's not fair.

And as long as he can take accountability, again, he won't have access to me like he did.

But like, like you could start like forward

in a different direction.

Yeah.

Again, if he takes accountability, because that's to me, that's just very important to me.

And

I do feel like, again, we have such a rare, special

thing where we're able to watch back and learn so many lessons.

Yeah.

But I just hope that he's also taking that opportunity to learn lessons like I have.

Yeah.

But yeah, I never want it to be like weird for anyone else in the house or other mutual friends or anything because that would suck for everyone.

Yeah.

Like that's not fun.

No, that's not fun.

And it's funny because so much of like your situation with Jesse sort of like is a turbocharged version of Sierra N West.

And I feel like we see it all like play out, but just like in fast forward a little bit.

Yeah.

So yeah, they are at, at least from what we're seeing, they're at the stage of like it not being fun in the house.

But maybe just like everything else, you'll accelerate that stage as well.

Yeah.

And I think everybody is like,

there's so many like different versions of everyone, right?

Whether it's in this space or even just like in your friendships in real life, it's like different people are different people to different people.

What my mom always says.

And she's like, so who somebody's going to be to you or how your relationship is going to play out or it's all so different.

How you react to something might be different, even though it could be so similar.

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So do you think through the last year, like you've changed so much just from like the first episode of the show, like just from the experience of being on TV, having everyone watch it, having your heart broken, like learning hard lessons?

Like, do you see yourself now as like just so different in so many ways?

Yeah, I definitely think so.

And I, and I honestly like it in a lot of ways because again, I don't want to be the same as I i was last summer yeah i don't like i want every summer i want every month i want every week for me to be growing and i do feel like i obviously am very different from like that naive girl that walked into the house that first weekend just like hey guys

i do feel like you learned so much and especially in this space i was so new and i'm still so new like i still am not

brilliant in this space, but I'm learning this space and I'm learning like I'm so lucky because we do have like the OGs like Lindsay And it's like, she's been in it for so long.

Like I will never have the knowledge that she has.

And I love that.

But also, yeah, I'm not going to be that same girl that walked in last year.

I do have a little bit more like

confidence and even just familiarity with the space and with the people.

Right.

And we were saying before this that like, even someone who comes on who is going to, he's like, I'm going to be

I'm not going to give any of myself like I'm not going to be vulnerable.

I'm just going to like, you know, get through the show.

Yeah.

That's not interesting either.

No.

So it's definitely a fine balance between the two.

Well, I feel like it's like when you guys probably started your podcast, it's like, yeah, what the heck are we doing?

No, what's going on?

Who's going to like the show is going to watch so different

and we've learned so many lessons and like but you can only learn them the hard way.

Someone could tell you be this way, do this.

And like, it just doesn't permeate until you learn the hard way.

And you're like, oh, damn.

Also, I feel like if it's not authentic, then like somebody could be like, you should be like this.

You should handle this like this.

It's not going to come off genuine if I'm just like listening to every single different person telling me who I'm supposed to be.

And I do feel like even in modeling, I always felt like a box of somebody else's beauty standard or somebody else's idea of like what they want on that shoot.

And that was my job.

And I loved doing that.

Like I, I, and I still do.

Like I love going to set and like being a version of what somebody else has in mind.

I feel like it's like acting to an extent.

Yeah.

And I love that.

but I also feel like in real life and in like the reality space and everything, like I can't listen to if somebody's like, oh, don't date that guy.

Right.

It's not going to end well.

No.

Yeah.

Were they right?

Yeah.

Oh, don't, don't date.

I don't see a friend where like you and Jesse have feeling the way that you did about each other the first weekend.

Like, don't give it a shot.

And I'm always going to give love a shot.

Right.

So that's not when people are like, it was a big mistake.

Like what

there was no other way for it to go down.

Like you guys really liked each other and you were really cute and happy for a month.

One thing I wanted to ask you is when we were recapping the season finale or maybe the episode before that, when you were saying about like talking about like things that you realized about Jesse and you were saying like that you realized that he had told you like a lot of half-truths or like omitted things.

Were there things outside of the show that where that happened outside of what we know, which is obviously like the toe, which.

One toe is enough to end the whole relationship.

So like you're fine even on the count of the toe, but like taking that out.

Were there other things where it was just like, he's just not being truthful about random shit?

Yeah, I think, first of all, even with the toe situation, I am actually a very forgiving person.

I forgave him for so many different things because I do see the best in people.

Like, I want to see the best in people.

I, I will, should I have broken up with him after the toe?

Yeah, probably, but

I, yeah, I'm just like, I do want to see the best in people.

And I really hope that when people feel that and be like, wow, like this person, like, I did something to to like hurt this person.

And like they're still giving me the benefit of the doubt.

Right.

I would hope that then they would want to like rise to that and be like, you know what?

Yes.

A hundred percent.

I'm so grateful for that opportunity again.

But I do feel like there was, there was just like a lot

of chatter outside the house, inside the house.

We do touch on it at the reunion.

And I just kind of feel like

I

put a lot of trust into somebody.

And I think it was just because I was the newbie that Bailey left and Maruel came in later and Rule wasn't even there every weekend.

I got really close to Gabby, but she wasn't there every weekend.

Then Lindsay, but Lindsay's pregnant.

So she was really prioritizing.

She's in the trenches.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Prioritizing the health of the baby, as she should.

And so, yeah, I do feel like I put a lot of trust then into

my relationship.

And I do feel like I probably put too much trust and gave too much.

Like I took what he said for like

the holy grail.

And I probably just shouldn't have.

I think realistically, I should have taken things with a grain of salt instead of being like, oh, that's 100%.

I think, so yeah, he was saying a lot of things outside the house and inside the house, which did make me feel like, oh, uneasy, not necessarily like,

um, it's already an intimidating situation walking into a house filled with people that have been friends for so long and been just kind of like, oh, geez, in this space that I'm so new to.

So I do feel like there was just so much chatter in and out of the house that I was just, it was a lot for my brain to handle.

I was really overwhelmed like all summer.

And then it just, it was rough.

It was rough for me.

But we do touch on that in the reunions.

You'll find out those like bits and bobs of things that like a manicure where it was like, I think with the manicure thing, it was so stupid.

And that was my point.

I think people are like taking it like so seriously.

No, even if it's not a manicure or not, it's irrelevant.

It's the fact that he could say something and you just don't believe him, which is not a person you should be in a relationship with.

Exactly.

And we were about to have to be like long distance because he lived in miami oh he did yeah so i was like we were leaving the summer being like okay are we strong enough to do long distance and trust each other and that's down the block can't even down

in the bedroom yeah like in the same bedroom

so i i do feel like i just kind of like that last weekend i went in like okay that makes a lot more sense that lost to the viewers yeah yeah yeah so i i just went in and i was like

what am i doing and it was the night before the like i was like already kind of like okay do i trust him him?

I don't know.

Like, what's going on?

And it was like the night before that he got the manicure.

Did any part of you want to wait to break up with him till you guys wrapped filming so that like you didn't have to deal with doing it on camera?

Yeah, for sure.

100%.

And like I, again, could have had like a nice, peaceful last weekend.

Yeah.

And then just like

100%,

obviously.

I'm like, but that would have been an easy thought.

Yes.

The thought of him, like.

I would almost feel like I was like leading him on.

Yeah.

If he was sleeping in my bed all day with it.

Yeah.

If like my heart was like, this isn't it, but I was allowing him to be like, this is it.

I just, it would not sit well with me.

And if I, it's funny, I feel like a lot of people online have been like, oh, like, she used him for a storyline.

I'm like,

I wish that that was, I wish that was true.

Yeah.

Because that I was embarrassed also.

Right.

I'm like, I actually, I wish that I didn't do any of that because I'm watching back absolutely like cringing, being like, oh my God, like, this is so embarrassing for me.

It's like a bad situation, like, for the world to be like, you're dumb.

And like, I agree.

I hear you.

I'm like, yeah, you know what?

I did not, I did not have the knowledge that you guys have watching.

Right.

It's not fair to like apply what we know.

But then there was an episode that was a real turning point in the show.

And I also think for the viewers, not Claudia and I, because like we could see from a mile away what was going on, but for other people who doubted you.

And when Amanda starts to tell you you the things that he had said and like the wheels are turning in your head and like, I just, I was like kind of racing for you to just be like sort of crestfallen, but you like really stood up for yourself and like told us this whole other side of the story.

It felt like one of those books where it's like you read the female's perspective and it's like so bad, right?

And it's like, oh my God, this guy's a monster.

And then you read the next perspective and it's like a whole different story.

And you're telling the same story, but it's like from different perspectives, it's two completely different things.

So then like, it felt like we got that like when you started saying what's going on during the week week and how he acts towards you and the things that he says towards you.

And I felt like that, I also felt like there was a change from the audience and people being like, oh, she's not just like upset, like, you know, goo goo gaga over him.

Like

she's thinking too.

Yeah.

I think that it's really important for women to be strong enough to set boundaries and relationships from day one.

Yeah.

Like I'm like, look at this is what I'm looking for in a relationship.

If you're not looking for that, that's okay.

Yeah.

But like, then you're not going to be my guy.

Right.

And that's totally, totally fair.

In this stage where I'm at in my life, I'm looking for a serious relationship.

Right.

And if you are not, again, that's fine.

But I do feel like there was, this is what I was saying about like the half-truths.

It's like, well, technically, like, that did happen.

But like, if you don't give context or like you don't give like the rest of the, the truth and the rest of the story, then it is

feeding into

like your feelings.

I'm the first person to say like,

yeah, I said that.

Yeah, I did that.

But this is why I did that.

This is why I said that.

This is what led me to be doing that.

And then that's where an adult can sit back and be like, that makes sense.

I probably would have done the same thing.

I would have had the same adult mature conversation with my partner and been like, hey, I don't like it when A, B, and C.

This A, B, and C doesn't make me feel good.

Let's compromise on it.

Let's work on it.

Is this something you want to change?

Is this something that I could change?

Is this, there's just so much that goes into a relationship.

And I also feel like so much that goes into a relationship in the public eye.

Yeah.

That it isn't just like a normal, no stress, no pressure situation.

Yeah.

It's like, look, we're either going to be sitting here watching this back and being in stronger than ever is watching it together, or we're going to be watching it and like just getting gut punches every two seconds.

Yeah.

You know, so I do feel like that was also in my mind where I was like, I'm just the type of person that I do have strong boundaries.

I do know what I want in a relationship and I'm, I don't want to settle.

Yeah.

Something that was frustrating was like it being made to seem like your boundaries were so, what's the word, like crazy or jealous.

Like

even you didn't even say the thing about the following the girls on Instagram, apparently, but like I feel like that's a fine boundary to set.

The comments, like that's so normal.

I feel like this house kind of struggles with.

people wanting to be in serious relationships, not just fun ones, but like making sacrifices for your partner, changing how you are.

It's okay to change.

People think like, I'm not going to change for a girl or whatever.

No, no, there are some changes that are healthy and then there are others that are unhealthy.

And it's about like knowing the difference.

But like, I think the biggest issue, and Jesse is like such a frustrating character because, in so many lights, he's really wonderful and funny and like gives back to his community and like is so great.

And then you're like, oh, he's such a mensch.

And then when it comes to a relationship, it's like he wants all the perks and like doesn't want to like do the harder things like set boundaries with girlfriends or not spend his time doing this.

Or, like, you have to change your behavior a little bit.

That's like what being in a relationship is.

And that's healthy.

We, even when, did you watch the show before you came on the show?

No, so I only watched a couple episodes just to get a get like an overview of what the vibes are.

Yeah, like even last season, did you see Jesse on the show?

I only saw two episodes and it didn't

ever occur to you, like, that's my guy.

And then I thought he was good looking.

Yeah, I think everyone like six, five, cute.

I'm like,

yeah.

But yeah,

I didn't think that we were going to be where we're at right now.

Right.

Right.

To have dated, to have hated, to have like all of this like craziness, especially because that's actually not how I move.

Right.

What is relationship?

Like, typical like cadence in relationships.

Like, are you someone who like always has a boyfriend or always has like a something?

I think, like, obviously, I think, especially nowadays with like social media and stuff, everybody always has like someone to talk to yeah I am the type person where I am a relationship girl and I've always been a relationship girl do I always have just like a revolving door of boyfriends no I don't think that's healthy I think you need to take a beat heal and then explore dating again but I do feel like I'm definitely the type person where all of my relationships have moved pretty fast just because

a lot of the guys that I've dated they're like as soon as we kind of have our first date they're like well i don't want you to date anyone else right i want you to know that i'm like watering this plant as much as you're watering this plant yeah thing so i do feel like that's always been my experience with dating and again i've dated like great guys but also i feel like where i'm at in my life right now it's like i'm not in my early 20s anymore like i don't want to just like have a fling and have a summer fling and like be like okay bye i do want a relationship i do want somebody that i can trust and somebody that's like my person and it's like we have each other's backs we're you're my best friend but you're also my boyfriend and i want like that we're close to each other's families families.

We're friends with each other's siblings.

It's just like, just one big, like, happy family type vibe.

Yeah.

And so that's just what I'm looking for right now.

In relationships, I do normally kind of, I,

maybe this is where I go wrong too.

Like I try to lead by example and be like, so I give so much loyalty because that's what I want back.

Yeah.

I give so much communication because that's what I want back.

I give so much trust because that's what I want back.

And I do feel like sometimes it makes it unbalanced.

Like if it, if it's just not, if you're not getting it back.

Exactly.

So it looks like I'm like really on it.

But like, I, I don't, I didn't feel like that.

I felt like it was like a normal relationship.

Yeah.

And because that is a lot of time like how my past relationships are,

it's just, I've never even actually thought about it.

Yeah.

It just all happened so naturally.

I never felt like I was, or they were like pushing a relationship or like pushing each other on each other.

Like it just always felt

like this is what I will.

I'm happy doing this.

I'm gonna keep doing this.

Yes.

Yeah.

And the guys were like that too.

So I think with this relationship, it was like

to my face, it felt like natural.

Yeah.

But then it's like, I'm happy doing this.

I want to keep doing this and also keep doing everything else I'm doing.

Yeah.

But I didn't even know that.

Yeah.

So like to my face, I was like, oh, this is like natural.

This is great.

Whatever.

Yeah.

But then obviously I found out like behind my back there was concerns that were never brought up to my face.

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Have you been dating since this summer?

Yeah.

Are you single?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I am single.

I've met like great guys.

I usually meet people.

Any tips for girls?

Through mutual friends, I feel like I, I gotta be so real, like, I'm so bad at dating apps.

Like, I have no Riz.

No Riz.

None.

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I don't, I'm not on dating apps.

So I'm not.

You're not on them.

I can't.

Like, I've tried.

I thought you were like on them and mad at them.

No, like, I, no, I had to take myself out of that game.

Cause I was like, you know what?

I'm not, I'm not good at this.

I suck at replying.

I like, then I just get in my head and I'm like, oh my God.

Then it just sounds like I'm doing like a business email.

And I'm like, yeah, this is so bad.

So I really depend on my friends to introduce me to their friends or meet people out.

Do you meet people out?

I feel like that's everyone's dream.

Yeah.

And then they don't.

If I'm like out partying, no.

I'm not like, I'm not on the prowl.

I'm not the one who's out in the club anyway.

Yeah.

And I just kind of feel like I'm normally out with like my friends and I'm not going to take away from my friends, like go on the prowl to meet some man.

I'm like, no, like my friends mean more to me than some random guy in a club or a bar or whatever.

But if I'm like out and I'm with friends and then he's with friends or they know each other or that's kind of how I've met everyone and especially recently.

And is it mostly in New York?

I don't know why I feel like dating in New York is so hard.

Dating in New York is hard.

It's funny actually because I feel like every guy that I've talked to since the summer doesn't live in New York.

And did you meet them in New York even?

Or they were visiting or you were out of town?

I met the one in New York, then the other one I met out of town.

And again, it's just like, it's one of those things where how like it's a long, like it would be a long distance thing.

Like you can never really like

fully get to know people and everything.

So it's been flings, but I am single and I am,

I'm like happy with that.

I feel like I'm in a really good space where I feel really good, confident.

I'm like ready to date, obviously, because I do feel like I've healed a lot from that situation.

Um, did you feel like you were like over it and then the season aired and now you're like in it again?

It's like happening all over again.

Yeah, absolutely.

Because the season didn't air for like six months after.

I imagine that's how long it like takes to fully move on from something like that.

Yeah.

And then it's like all over again.

Yes.

Yeah.

100%.

You literally go through like a healing process.

Then you're like, oh, stab,

stab.

Like everyone's it.

It's like a stab.

And I'm like, no.

Well, it's over now.

I know.

I know.

That's a relief.

That is a relief.

We still have the reunion.

We still have, but I am happy that I do feel like we kind of get a break for a minute to just be like, okay, like, I'm, I'm in my healing era.

And I'm, yeah, I feel like, I feel good.

I feel confident.

I feel like I'm not necessarily desperate for a relationship, but I'm open to one.

Yeah.

I feel like I,

yeah, I love dating.

I love connections.

I love, but at the end of the day, like, I will always be like, my friendships mean more to me than meeting a guy at a club.

So it is difficult.

Dating in New York is hard.

Yeah.

I don't know how people do it.

Especially without apps.

Yeah.

I'm literally praying that like my friends know someone.

Yeah.

That

they haven't already set you up with.

Well, that's the thing.

That's the thing.

Yeah.

That's like, oh, you need just a lot of people.

A big pool.

Yeah.

And then I'm like, oh, well, now this is like awkward.

Cause then also like dating in a friend group can obviously be very messy.

It's just like, I feel like right now, dating in general is just so hard.

When did you meet?

Like, I met my husband

in what was the year?

Maybe like 2015.

Okay.

But we met through a combination of I started a new job working where he was working, but we had also like two months before matched on Hinge, but we didn't talk or go out out yet.

So, then, like, when I started this job, and then, like, a month into it, I went to like drinks, like drinks with co-I was like, oh my God, so awkward.

And we, and I was like, got to talking to him like randomly, and we were having like a really good conversation, like, definitely like flirty.

And it's like, oh, okay.

And then at the end of the conversation, he mentioned that we had matched on Hinge over the summer.

And I was like, oh, like, I didn't even, that didn't, I didn't really like check that much at summer.

I was like having fun.

So I wasn't like all up on it.

And so then like that night, I went and like found his page and whatever.

And then like a month later, we like started dating it at work.

And then the rest is history.

So it was like, we wouldn't have gotten together without Hinge or actually maybe without Hinge, but like in that moment, it was just like, oh, okay, we're both interested.

Like him saying that, like, meant that we both like swiped right and like are single.

And you want to make each other.

Yeah.

So now all of a sudden he went from just like being a coworker to like a romantic interest.

So Hinge definitely like accelerated things.

But if we never met in real life, we would have never connected.

Right.

I love this.

I love hearing like how people meet their person.

I'm just like, this is so exciting.

But so many of my friends, like most people that I know who've met their husbands, have met them in partner, like partly because of a dating app, but also there has to be an in-person connection.

So like one of my best friends, she like went out with this guy once, like years, like a long time ago, probably like 10 years ago.

And they had like a nice time.

Maybe they went out twice, but like neither of them were really looking for anything.

So they didn't go out again.

And then a year later, they were both on the apps and they connected again.

So they were like, oh, let's go out.

And now they're married and they have a baby.

And like, so I'm like, all of my friends have a situation like that where it's like someone was a mutual friend.

They like got set up on a double date once.

They didn't like really hit it off.

And then they connected again on Hinge.

Or I don't know what the dating app du jour now is, but back in my day, it was Hinge.

It's still Hinge.

Hinge is the one.

Hinge.

I think like Raya is still Raya.

I can never get on like into Raya.

Yeah.

Not into it.

Yeah, like accept it.

No, no, no, wait.

Accepted.

Okay.

Yeah.

Well, look it.

It's it all worked out.

Yeah.

You're

winning.

Despite their refusal.

I was on Raya for a week.

And I, it's actually funny because I think I went on it like twice and I ended up like meeting a guy.

Oh, and we ended up with a nigga.

Someone name you would know.

No.

No, not a famous person.

Yeah, no.

He was, he was like a baseball player.

But he was cute.

Oh, so like semi-like baseball player.

Yeah.

It's oh, yeah.

There's a a lot of athletes around here.

Do you go to the Knicks games?

I did.

I used to go a lot when I was younger.

I've been going to the finals or whatever.

I haven't.

I haven't gone, but I actually love basketball.

I'm going to meet someone.

That is a good place to meet somebody.

But I also feel like they're busy.

They're busy.

In all cases, they're busy.

They're either watching or playing.

And everyone is busy.

Right.

Everyone is busy.

So, yeah, I don't know where to meet guys.

I don't know.

I feel like you're doing such a great job.

Keep doing what you're doing.

Maybe I'll run into somebody at like a grocery store.

I also wanted to ask you because i just watched your second appearance on watch what happens live and and you mentioned that you dated drake and i didn't know that until i saw that because i feel like some of your ex is like every like we know

and i didn't know that you dated drake i kind of ship there's there's a lot of people that i haven't

that nobody knows about yeah but like you're very you're a loyal person so you don't spill the beans no matter how it goes yeah because to me you like to tell me when we rap i

to me I was just always like I've just always actually been a very private person, which is funny, right?

But also like a very open person.

But for me, just like guys that I dated, like it was just never a thought to like

air it out or post it or even like the guys that I dated that ended up being like paparazzi or whatever.

I never even like really posted that much about it other than one of them because we were like very serious.

But

other than that, like I never have posted a guy other than the one.

I've never done that.

Yeah.

So I always just kind of thought like coming on the show, I was like, okay, yeah, so everybody's just going to talk about like my

public relationships that everybody had been talking about for years ago.

Or Jesse.

And like, that's fine.

I didn't think that one specific Jesse was going to air out other people that have been in that.

That would happen.

Yes.

And I'm like, that's sorry.

That's not your story to tell.

Oh.

So that's like that yeah that's how it kind of came out but i was like i keep my private right private film

and

for him to do that i was like shocked like and i didn't i didn't realize that's where it came from i just thought i like missed yeah

yeah

that's where it came from

i was like i kept getting sent in i was like what is going on right now and i was like

oh my god but yeah no i'm just type of person i yeah i just

it was private and I always just kind of like respect that that was a choice that was made in that moment.

I will honor that

not even like a choice.

It wasn't even like a discussion.

It just like never

I've just never really like posted guys or like been very public with people.

Yeah, even if they're public and I'm public, we yeah, have like a private life, but yeah, no, it's crazy.

Oh my gosh, that is so interesting.

I also wanted to ask you about Watch 1 Happen 5 because last week or whenever, Jesse and West were on

and

someone had written called in about you having like tension with tinks on your episode and I hadn't watched your episode yet so I actually just watched it this morning and I didn't really I wouldn't have thought that but then Jesse like was like yeah there's tension I didn't I didn't wait what was it like for you was there tension it was weird because like I had no idea I knew that episode was just like a difficult difficult episode for me because it was when everybody was kind of like talking about my family behind my back and again never giving me i feel like there was a lot always said behind my back so i was never really given an opportunity to ever really like stand up for myself or like get the story straight or like anything and that entire episode like jesse was like oh we hung out for three hours it was not three hours he said we were at the bar until 2 a.m not true like all of this stuff was just like so i think that episode for me was just like an intense one but i didn't feel

anything yeah

unless she said something to him but like i saw that she like went somewhere and said that there was no tension either so I don't know where Jesse got that information got it I didn't feel any pressure I was happy to be there like you had your own shit going on is what you're saying like I was nothing between the two of you no I was just happy to be there I was happy to see Andy I was happy that I was doing it with another like cool independent strong girl like I was like this is great I went into her dressing room before we went in and I was like so excited to be doing this together

I was I love the watch what happens live like crew and production and everyone like they're all just so amazing I always have the best time when i go yeah i was like and my mom and sister were barred

i was like this is actually a hoot this is i had a good time but i didn't i saw that because i got tagged in that again so much too and i was like wait what right i feel like he's he's said a lot of things that i'm just like that's he says a lot of things that's not the experience that i experienced let me say that okay that's fair well the reunion is tonight so we'll be able to see a bit more of like if there's resolution, which I am hoping for because, like, you know, wanting two to move forward separately, I understand, didn't work out bad for me.

Um, so we're very excited to watch, and I'm so thankful that you came to the toast.

No, it's been so much fun, so fun.

I'm so happy to be here.

This is so cool.

I love this, and I love just chatting with you.

No, I know, same.

I have so many questions for you still.

Um, and then, like, it's already almost June, and so, like, back to the Hamptons, yeah.

We will see.

Well, yeah, like, yeah, all TBD, but I think it's it's safe to say your spot is secure.

I just also, I feel like with the show, there's gonna be some change.

Everyone's like teases changes, and everyone's sort of like pushing Lindsay and her baby out the door, Danielle, which is like not nice.

But I do feel like the show is changing, like, or at least needs to.

So, what do you think that will look like?

It's so interesting.

I

have no idea.

I feel like everyone has really like the cast is so intertwined.

It's so,

I don't even know what that would look like.

Yeah.

But

obviously I want to support everyone in like whatever, wherever their life is going.

I'm like, oh, hell yeah.

I'm like, they're riding with you for that.

But yeah, I don't, I don't know.

I don't know either.

It's been my first season too.

I'm like, I wish I had more intel, but yeah, I got nothing.

I feel like there's definitely things that can be done.

I think the Valley has set like a really good precedent for like,

I don't want to say aging, but like

going on and off.

Yeah.

It's like, this was the stage of like Vanderpump, and now everybody has grown up and now we're following their lives as like, yeah, and maybe it's not like necessarily real housewives because I'm not like obsessed with that idea for Lindsay either, but like maybe it's like a

show in the middle because I feel like that's doing really well for the valley.

And as someone who's actually like in the same stage of life as like Lindsay or people on the valley, like having babies, and I think it's interesting to watch.

Yeah, for sure.

They're like, you know, tested stars.

Like she could do it.

Well, I was just going to say, lindsay is like so smart and amazing and like just literally made for this yeah i'm like i always before i actually went on my first watch what happens live i was like lindsay i texted her i was like what what can i expect what like obviously it's live andy's an icon i'm like oh my gosh i'm new i was going on without another castmate so i was like oh my gosh who'd you go on the first time with um danielle schneider she is amazing What is she?

She's a like comedian.

She has a podcast.

She's honestly so funny.

We had the best time oh good i watched it off and i remember enjoying it yeah no it was so fun we were literally like twins by the end of it i was like no i love you so much so fun yeah we had so much fun literally on on set and offset it was amazing so yeah she i like texted her but as soon as i got there danielle and i like

literally got along right away yeah um and it's funny how the show like brings people together watching what happens live like yeah the green like he puts on like it's sometimes some people from the same show, but like, could be like random people from like totally different industries.

Yeah, you get to meet new people, which I think is so cool.

And like, having their perspective and their opinion, and like, I, I think it's so cool.

And I think Andy is so amazing and so great at hosting.

He's like, again, he's an eye god.

Yeah.

So he, yeah, it's always so fun to kind of just like be there.

That is really fun.

Well, thank you again for coming, spending the morning with me or afternoon.

And where can everyone follow you, keep up with with you so you can follow me on instagram lexiwood lexiwood x on tick tock and six and nine podcast and then stay tuned for my hanky panky collection which i can't wait i'm so excited i'm shooting the campaign tomorrow

I shot it yesterday.

Yeah, it's hard.

It's like not, we do every episode like dropping that same day.

So I'm like, reunion airs tonight.

Yeah, this is a little pre-recorded, okay?

Reunion airs tonight on Bravo.

Can't wait to watch you do your thing.

Everyone actually looked sickening at this reunion.

Best reunion looks yet.

I know.

Being there, I was like, everyone is so

beautiful.

How was it like going into it?

Were you nervous?

I feel like it's just nerve-wracking that, like, you want to make your case for you just want to get your words out, but it's like sometimes they don't come.

Yes.

And I do.

Yeah, 100%.

And I do feel like it is so overwhelming.

And it's like, how do I sum up months

in

one,

like one conversation right and there is there's so many of us there's 10

is there more

sounds like a lot but 11 10 10 or 11 of us and

we all have a lot going on in our lives like and a lot of especially I feel like this year it's like so much has unraveled during the season offseason we have

Lindsay has a baby yeah like we want to talk about that like there's just a lot of people have a lot of stuff going on on.

So yeah, it was intimidating being like, okay, I don't know what to expect.

Again, I'm so new.

I don't know what to expect ever on a daily basis.

I have, I'm really just doing my best.

And so yeah, I was definitely like scared going in.

I was like, oh my God.

But Gabby and I shared a dressing room, which was so fun.

And she is, we just had the best time.

And our, my hair and makeup team was like my closest friends.

And then her hair and makeup is like, we've gotten to know each other through working together too.

And I just love them.

So our room was like the girls' room.

Okay.

And then we did energy.

We had so much fun.

Okay, good.

Yeah.

And was it, did it wind up being like more

or less than you expected it to be in terms of like intimidation and like the intensity of it?

I think because it was my first one, it felt exactly what I was scared of.

What you were scared of.

Yeah, because it was my first one.

And I don't know.

I didn't know what to expect.

I didn't know.

It does get really intense, obviously.

Like at the end of the day, there's a lot of things to discuss.

And I think especially with me, because it was my first season, I honestly wasn't even thinking that I was doing that much.

Like, I was like, guys, I'm new.

Like, yeah, there's so much going on.

And yeah, my

wound up being like the main storyline of the season.

Yeah, there was a lot.

There was a lot going on, a lot being said, a lot.

So we did have a lot to talk about.

So it was, it was an intimidating thing yeah for sure and like you said like trying to even formulate all of the words and like

everything that you are feeling and even being able to express that and form it no and like explain yourself is one thing yeah and make yourself make sense and then also do it in front of the person who like broke your heart and you have to like sit there and talk about how your heart broken yeah and then i think because there's there's obviously being a house all together every else is obviously involved.

And it's like, there's just so much going on for all of us.

There's not going on.

That it was definitely a wild first reunion for me.

Oh my gosh.

Okay.

Well, I can't wait to watch.

Thank you again for doing this.

Now I will let you go.

We will see you tomorrow.

Love ya.

Bye.