You Could Always Be Fatter: Wednesday, May 14th, 2025

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Good morning, girlies.

It's the toast.

It's Jackson claude and we're your host

it's your favorite show the fast five things you need to know

we'll start your day off swirly it's the toast i sound amazing

welcome back to the choice and happy wednesday that doesn't feel right feels like we've accomplished so much we've done so much why isn't it at least thursday i don't know feels wrong

except it is a day de la celebration because we're having a big merch launch and everybody got what they wanted and all the items are for sale Jackie and I are wearing you know they say butter yellow is the color of the season have you seen them saying that I have seen them saying that for for me it's a color that I love every season sometimes like I'll recognize there's a color that I'm liking more because everybody's wearing it and I would have never went for it before but I love yellow all the time Okay, so I'm just trying to make like a marketing statement.

So did you hear that butter yellow?

But I'm just trying to say that it's not limited to this season.

It's a timeless piece because it's a beautiful color.

But did you hear that butter yellow is the color of the season?

Jackie and I are extremely on trend as designers, as manufacturers, and obviously as businesswomen.

We knew butter yellow was going to be the color of the season.

So we launched a butter crew neck set.

It also comes with shorts.

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Everybody's having so much fun.

And this is the same thing.

We've got shirts.

We've got phone cases.

We've got totes.

We've got crew necks.

We've got the t-shirts.

The t-shirts, the three oversized t-shirts that have sold out, but everything that sold out is available for pre-order.

And then it just goes back to the days of your where it takes like about six to eight weeks for you to get it.

But if you want it, get it because who knows, like the run on these t-shirts, my friends, like definitely you will get your t-shirt before we launch another set of t-shirts, right?

Let me tell you something about these t-shirts.

I would die without these t-shirts.

Like if you're going through any sort of physical body changes, like I cannot recommend just having at least one t-shirt on standby.

I actually placed an order from our own merch shop before the shirts went live because I needed three more.

They have so buoyed me throughout this entire pregnancy and I know they'll be booing me all summer like with my sexy postpartum body.

Get yourself a shirt.

Whether you're having a baby, you're just like struggling with your body, get a shirt.

No, but even last summer when we launched the shirt and we were being skinny, I loved the shirt when I was skinny.

So that's what I posted on my Instagram this morning because I posted, I styled it like so cute.

I would never wear the shirt like that now.

And I'm like, now we're being so snatched in the same t-shirt that I wore two weeks ago on the toast, looking cute as a moose, you know?

Sisterhood of the traveling t-shirt.

These t-shirts are genuine magic.

And like you could just wear it differently, a little biker short.

We wore them all summer and we were so skinny.

We're going to wear them this summer and we're going to be less skinny.

That's a good way of putting it.

i like that less skinny than we were but it which of course we will be because we were so skinny how could you be so skinny and you know what we were so skinny and we spent the whole summer talking about how fat we were well yeah like we we came into the house i feel like we're on like jersey yeah we came into the house and we were so skinny together because we were both really working on our goals and we had the beacon right before so we were like being really good yeah and then i think you know summer togetherness did its thing and so we just assumed like i think yes technically we were probably gaining a little bit of weight but we just like thought it was so much more than it was and i think by august like we thought we were big fat slabs And spoiler alert, we were still really skinny.

We were so gorgeous.

We were so beautiful.

And it's tough because we now spend like almost every summer together.

And the summer starts off July 4th, Olivia's birthday, Claudia's birthday.

It's like 10 days of just like, we have to eat cake, literally.

So I know.

That's what I was actually thinking this morning.

I was looking for this video.

I wanted to make like a transition video.

So I was looking for the before.

So I had to scroll through all my videos.

And I was like, not me thinking like in the beginning of this pregnancy, I was such a moose.

I couldn't have been cuter.

Like I was so cute.

My face really didn't change.

It did change recently.

I've acknowledged that.

But like, it was, I was, and you couldn't tell me shit.

I feel like there was someone who was trying to tell you that.

Yeah, Ben was real.

No kidding.

I feel like there was someone.

Roll the tapes.

Yeah.

There was someone who's trying to say like, you couldn't tell me shit.

And like, I never, I didn't say like, it will get worse because I didn't, like, you couldn't tell you that.

Right.

But like, and I can, and I knew.

But it's always a good reminder for anyone, whether you're going through this season of your life or you just like think you're fat.

Like.

You're not as fat as you think you are.

And you could always be fatter.

That is so true.

It's an eternal lesson.

A thousand percent.

That's really chills.

Like, you'll never be younger than you are right now.

You think you look old?

You're getting older.

Just wait.

You're gonna, you look super young.

Okay.

I'm older.

Well,

we have a great show today.

The stories are really good.

I did watch The Valley, and Jackie didn't.

And I literally called her and I'm like, I watch the episode.

I'm like, Jackie, you don't have to watch it.

Like, I know you're busy with the kids.

Like, seriously, it was the biggest piece of shit I've ever seen in my life.

I will do like a brief recap just to tell you how dumb everyone was being.

I want you to recap it for me.

I'll still try and watch it at some point, but right now my schedule is not conducive to any TV.

I have no me time these days because Harry's sleeping in the bed with us.

So we go to sleep together.

And you know what?

It's actually been good for mom because I'm going to sleep so early.

So early.

I used to, before I was pregnant, if he ever slept in my bed, like I would lay with him until he fell asleep and then I would go out to the living room, watch TV.

But I lay with him until he falls asleep and I fall asleep too.

And like, I'm going to sleep at 8.45.

And that's good.

No, that's good.

And we're not complaining.

And seriously, the valley like was so not worth you.

But like

tomorrow is summer house and I'm going to work harder to carve out.

an hour.

Yeah, Summerhouse, I do believe is worth the carving.

The valley, like some episodes are really good and some are not.

And last night was like actually really dark.

Okay.

Well, not in a good way.

Oh, okay.

Well, we have some like valley adjacent news, but then final story will perfect.

Be some TV news that leads into the TV recap.

I don't really have much to catch you up on.

Like these days, there's so little going on in my life.

Like, obviously, there's a lot going on in my life, but like in terms of podcast fodder, like, okay, what did I do yesterday?

We had our big meeting.

We had a lunch meeting and then I went home and collapsed and I almost fainted at the lunch meeting.

I was like, so on.

I am so looking forward to not being hot anymore.

Like I know the weather's about to get hotter, but I'm ready for like my temperature to re-regulate.

Like I'm so o,

you know what?

Not enough people talk about the similarities in being overweight and being pregnant.

Like obviously the bigness is a huge one, but I feel like a lot of my overweight life prepared me for pregnancy things, like being out of breath.

Tips and tricks.

Tips and tricks, the heat.

Like I, when you're overweight, you're just like dumb.

I have a fan here.

I have a fan here.

And I just installed a window air conditioning unit because it wasn't cold enough in the studio.

Like I feel I was as well prepared.

And I also feel that way about stretch marks.

I made a TikTok about this I don't know if I've talked about this yet.

You know I haven't gotten any stretch marks

I said like one of the benefits of being like a formerly fat bitch who got pregnant is that Your body isn't like this isn't a shock to your body the stretching so when I gained a lot of weight like in college I had gotten stretch marks and they went away over time

And then I lost weight and now I'm like gaining weight again and my skin is not getting stretch marks because like My skin's my sins like we've we've been here before.

You know, this is not new to us and people were like just wait They can come in the 39th week and some people say they come after i just want to say that was my experience i didn't get stretch marks with harry then with charlie and i was got like so big i remember in like the last week or two weeks like my skin started to be itchy and like that's them like coming up my skin has been itchy though up until this point and when i gave birth like there was really nothing and then or there was like they were faint and then they started getting darker after i gave her them like but i'm smaller now okay so the good news is it's been almost two years and they have almost completely gone away and i'm not one of those people who like lives in fear of stretch marks because i've had them before and I really don't think that they're a big deal.

People like are afraid of getting pregnant because of stretch marks.

Like I don't, I just think a fun fact is that I haven't gotten a single one, but I have heard that they can come after, which is just disgusting.

I just want to say they came after and they just didn't stop.

You would think it stops as soon as the stretching stops.

Right.

And that didn't happen.

And then right after I gave birth, I was like, I can't be worried about this right now.

And then by the time I got around to like.

when I would care about it, like when I was being really skinny, they were fading.

And I was like, oh, and they're going to keep fading.

And they have pretty much faded.

So

not a big deal.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But so far, like...

Yes, like people who are saying that are not wrong.

I know.

But just not again.

Like, so far, I don't have any.

I didn't have a full-length mirror in the apartment I was living in when I had Charlie.

So I had no idea what I looked like.

That's for the best.

I have come to the realization I have far too many mirrors in my home and they're in like very high traffic areas.

So there's one directly on the path from my bed to the bathroom, which is where I go most.

You have to see yourself every time you go to the bathroom.

Every time I walk to the bathroom.

And also I can see a little bit of myself getting out of bed, which is really fucking scary.

Then there's also one right at the entrance of my kitchen.

You actually do need to get rid of some.

It's not good for your mental health.

I completely agree.

And when I was at Ocean Pic, I was like loving all the mirrors.

You know, I'm like, Miramira on the wall, who's the snatchiest of them all.

And now it's actually detrimental.

It's bad for women.

Like, no, but it's also you need to protect your postpartum self because like, at least now, like, okay, maybe you don't love how you look, but like your body

it gets a little sadder postpartum.

Yeah, and you need to protect turd self.

The one in my bedroom is definitely like the biggest,

it's gotta go, yeah.

No, you're 100% right.

I'll tell you, like, you need to protect for future turd.

Yeah, you know, I gotta look out for me, and you don't want to do it then because it's like, wow, I can't even look at the mirror.

You're not doing like now, right now, you're fine.

You could look at the mirror in this moment.

I gotta put me first.

I gotta put me first.

Just in this moment, just in this moment.

Only right now.

All we have is this moment.

tomorrow's unspoken

people are like what's that gorgeous song i've never katie perry it's katy perry this moment a song that she never released as a single and maybe that's why she is where she is 1000 results

um i'm ready to dive in i'm not feeling terribly out of breath so that's good That bodes well for the first ad break.

Yeah.

And people have said like, Jax, you have to give Claudia a break.

Like take over the ads.

She won't let me.

I've not even asked.

I know you won't let me.

I would know I would love to.

You've been doing the resort pass ads all week.

And like, seriously, I couldn't be shoving the timer further up your face and you're always going over the time.

Like, there are a set of rules for how the ads are done.

Like, if you're not going to comply, then I'm going to keep doing it.

I just want to see like the ROIs from this week on like how many people signed up for the different sponsors and like given your embellishments.

Signed up for Resort Pass.

Well, just know during maternity leave, Jackie's in charge of all the ads.

And I offered, by the way, I was like, Do you want me to pre-record them?

She's like, No, I got it.

The episodes are going to be two hours long because the ad breaks are going to be an hour.

I just think they're going to be full of love and full of punch and full of key talking points, hopefully.

Of course, the key talking points, the KTPs.

But also, it's probably because I don't get to do it.

If I did them a six a day like you every single day, like I would be more routine about it.

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Now, my absolutely gorgeous sister is going to dive into the first story while I go grab a tumb because I'm seriously not archiving.

Okay, grab a tumb, but keep your ears open because I don't know if you know this, but the Sports Illustrated swimsuit 2025 covers

have been revealed.

Oh, wait.

Which is so crazy because I just saw this morning Alex Earl is in the new Sports Illustrated.

So I saw that like they were doing stuff because they announced like Alex Earl.

Yeah, I saw that cover, right?

And I was like ready for that to be this.

I was reading the story about Alex Earl in Sports Illustrated and then I saw a mention of the cover stars and the covers have come out when

yesterday oh that's not a good sign for sports illustrator and again there are four covers and four cover stars talk about this every year like just choose someone make make a decision and it's really hard because i do feel like the people who work at sports illustrated are toasters like they always are reaching out and like they always say they want to get a cover and so on the one hand like it's like why have why aren't you listening when we say like please make a choice and choose one person for do you guys remember the years where like you would get chosen and it was like that it girl of the year your career and like i feel like we were because i was watching paul american she was talking about how that cover like launched her career it's not like that anymore because it's all inclusive like we have somebody who's old somebody who's young somebody who's from the north and somebody's it's like just choose someone no they literally cover every single bucket with these four covers this year it is salma hayek okay queen by the way would have been no no let me tell you i just started following actually i don't follow her she came up on my for you page salmahayek have you seen her social media no it's one of the craziest fucking places on the planet salmahayek is in such amazing shape for any woman but it's specifically a woman her age and she knows it and all i don't know where she lives and i'm pretty sure her husband's a billionaire yeah she married into the lvmh family right

renalt yeah right like the big uh louis vuitton family she's on a boat pretty much all year long she loves to swim she's definitely a water sign and she is always in a bathing suit.

Her Instagram is the funniest place on the planet.

And if I looked like her, I would do the exact same thing.

Oh, and I was married to a billionaire.

So I actually think.

So if they have to do like a million covers, this is is a good one.

So I would rather have just seen her on the cover.

Yes.

Just one cover.

Make a choice.

The next person on the cover.

Wait, can you show me them as we go?

Oh, yeah.

So this is Salma Hayek's cover.

Very beautiful.

Like, no, seriously, she's like a bombshell.

That's a, that's a great photo.

Next, Lauren Chan.

Let me see.

I don't know who that is.

Oh, I was hoping that you would.

No, I don't.

She, um,

if there's one thing SI swimsuit staple, Lauren Chan knows, it's fashion.

And this model broadcast host and former features editor has one stacked resume to plu-to-shaped.

Did she work at Sports Illustrated?

i don't know um she is long she's a fierce size inclusion advocate and has long been passionately outspoken when discussing her support of sizing availability across the board okay got it so like that's her thing semahayek is like the old one not old one excuse me you know what i mean they always do semi-size inclusive

um

and i'm i would have thought she was like what's her name lauren lauren chan I would have thought she was like a digital influencer.

Like one of the, okay, I've never seen this girl in my life.

Yeah.

Where does she like do her content?

She's Canadian.

That's maybe why we don't know her.

She's the founder of the plus size clothing brand Henning.

Okay.

Maybe we're not.

Oh, and she's a lesbian.

Oh, okay.

That's what NBC News says.

Lauren Chan is the first out lesbian to appear solo on a sports illustrated swimsuit cover.

That's cool.

Really?

Nobody else has been a lesbian.

They've done other stuff in LGBTQ.

Like I said, they're always.

They're always very inclusive.

I'm surprised it's the first lesbian.

But it's like, how many things can you include in your covers?

Okay, who's the third?

The third is olivia dunn livvy dunn the gymnast

oh she looks great like that's like uh influencer box check yeah and then the fourth is jordan childs the oh

let me see okay like the thing is i can't believe how excited you are about well these are all like weirdly good selects

and it's not my favorite photo of her

she's so cute but i feel like they kind of like phoned it in with her

Cover like the rest of them are I mean this is Livy Dunn's is looks like a picture from Instagram.

it's a little basic yeah um i actually really like the selects i just hate the concept that there are multiple selects like just give us one yeah

girl of the moment and like

none of these girls are models that's the other thing they're all like celebrities like famous for other things whereas sports illustrated like for many many years was kind of like a Victoria Secret, like a huge thing you would get in your modeling career.

And it would launch the career of lots of young models.

So it's kind of annoying that, well, you can be a lot of things and a model.

None of these girls are models by trade.

I am never going to be like supportive of four cover stars or three cover stars or three cover stars or two cover, one cover star is what I want.

Are you supportive of one cover with three people, like the Nina Ogdell one?

Like an iconic photo on one cover?

Yes.

And because it's like, we don't even get to talk about the photo.

Like, you know, it's just about the person.

It's not on the cover.

It doesn't even matter what the picture looks like.

100%.

So I'm never really going to go for the four.

And I don't even know which four people they could have that would even make me be like, oh, okay, this was

a good black pink.

Olivia, Jackie, Claudia, Margot.

All four members of Black Pink.

Oh, that would have been cute four members of cohesive.

It's cohesive.

Cause it's cohesive.

That actually would have been so cute.

But like these four swirlies don't know each other.

They're not connected at all.

No, it's so random.

And now I know you're like, you're being really supportive of each of the women.

Well, I love Jordan Childs.

Like she's a queen.

And she did like get totally fucking robbed.

And I have no issue with any of these women.

And I've just recently like taken interest in Salmahayek's digital footprint.

So it felt like very personal to me.

And Livy Dunn, like, that's like a Xandra.

Like, I like when when they lean into like the young TikTok because I'm very young and hip on TikTok.

Right.

So, I, and I don't know the other swirly, but like, love size inclusion.

Like, there's nothing wrong with any of the selects, but it's not what it, what Sports Illustrated once was.

And I feel like every time we talk about this, we sound like Graham.

I was like, back in my day, but it was fabulous back in my day, bitch.

Okay.

No, and we sound like broken records because we say this every year, because every year they do the same thing, and it's so disappointing.

We can't even remember who was on the, well, last year there was like 55 people on the cover because it was the 60th member.

They did like the Generang Rank group photo.

I literally don't remember.

In addition to four cover stars.

Oh, Sanser Million.

There were like five covers.

I couldn't.

And then the year before, who was it?

We don't know, but I could tell you who it was when I was in high school.

It was Kate Upton.

It was Chrissy Teigen, Nina Ogdahl.

It was Hannah Jeter.

Oh, we saw Derek Jeter at lunch yesterday.

Slay New York Moment.

But Hannah wasn't there.

So we didn't really care.

I think this is such a flop.

I am afraid to say it.

And I really appreciate your positivity.

If I'm talking about it in the context of this new gen of Sports Illustrated, these are good selects.

But in the scheme of like what made Sports Illustrated, like why do we care about Sports Illustrated?

Because for many years it was this destination.

Then yeah, this sucks.

Also, like you want to get your boxes, like put a pregnant woman on the cover.

That's what I'm waiting for.

Well, technically, Nina, when she was filming on Paul American, she was like three days pregnant.

I want to see a big

belly on the cover.

And there are a lot of those.

Maybe they haven't.

No, Claudia, I'm always looking out for it there might be in like i know nicole williams from wags was in the issue pregnant put her on the cover yeah no that's a good one put her on the cover kind of like a big moment for women it's not feeling inclusive right that everyone's included except for pregnant women it's true we are beautiful too like i love looking i love looking in the mirror at my pregnant body i'm finding these covers to be extremely exclusive that's a fat that's a fire critique and i feel offended no and i feel like like each year they do try to top like this year we're doing the first and they keep getting like more specific.

So like literally do the first pregnant woman.

What's the big deal?

It would be so beautiful.

It's literally not a big deal.

Also, have you seen some not a big deal?

Have you seen some of these pregnant women who are mom?

I'm just out pregnant on the cover.

It's literally me after lunch.

It's pretty pargy.

Totally.

So I'm offended.

Just so.

And then it's just not, it's not good.

It's not iconic.

It hasn't been iconic for many, many years.

I would say the last like real iconic and the last one they chose singularly was Camille Kostic, right?

No, she was in a group.

Oh, maybe I I just like followed her so it felt big.

She was like, it felt big.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But I feel like she was grouped.

It's just been years and years of like groups and it's so

because they never, they didn't want to make a choice.

Like they had gotten a lot of, I feel like it started because they got a lot of criticism about not being size inclusive.

So they put Ashley Graham on one of the covers.

Well, it's like if you're going to be inclusive, just give her the cover.

Like that's it.

That's, that's the statement you're making.

But they didn't really want to make that statement.

So they had multiple covers.

And then they got like caught in this thing where they have to have multiple covers.

Yeah, because you can't have one person who is both big and small and old and gay.

Gay and straight.

No, they kind of, they got, they got like a little too caught up in being inclusive.

So they can't choose anyone now because then it would be like, well, you're saying that's the standard of beauty.

It's like, well, no, we just chose someone.

This is, we're finding this beautiful today in this second.

And that doesn't mean you're not beautiful.

It's a whole magazine full of women.

Wait a minute.

Open it up.

And you know what?

It's, I don't think four is enough.

I feel like it should be more.

I feel like it's extremely exclusive to have four.

I completely agree.

And they should have 100 covers.

Yes.

Like, what a mess.

Yeah.

It's, and also the fact that the covers were released and I didn't hear about it until this moment.

And I literally, when I tell you, I got home from our lunch and I was on my phone for the rest of the day.

Like, it doesn't bode well for the impact of Sports Illustrated.

It used to be, we were like countdown waiting for it.

Like we knew it was coming.

No, it's not giving.

No, it's not giving.

And I think the only way, I think they've gotten themselves into this like inclusive mess where they can't represent enough and they're still underrepresenting.

Right.

You just have to rip off the band, go back to one.

Give up.

Rip off the band.

Just say, script.

Right.

Never mind.

We're going back.

Control Z.

And they could have done it for this one because last year they put so many women on the cover for the 60th.

Right.

That now in 61, it could have just been like back to basics.

Right.

Instead, we got this.

Now, of the four cover stars, if only one of them could have had the cover.

Let me see them.

Who would you think should be the one?

I feel like you're going to be shocked, but based on the photos too, right?

Like the photos themselves.

Based on the photos, I would say Salmahayek.

I would say Salmahayek too.

I don't think whoever shot Jordan Childs, like, really was looking out.

Like, this is not the best Jordan Childs could look in terms of her hair, her hair, makeup, like lighting.

This is just not a great photo of Jordan Childs.

Like, she's so talented.

She's on this, like, dirty rock.

They fly to these unbelievable places.

Her background is like sea moss-covered dirty rocks.

There's two gymnasts on the covers.

True.

Olivia Dunn's like, it's just, it's very pretty.

She has the blue water, but you're right.

It's very Instagram.

Like it's not a photo.

I think Lauren Chan's is very Instagram.

I think Lauren Chan's is very poorly lit.

Like it's overexposed with the sun in the back.

I think, and I happen to think Salmah Hayek's is beautiful.

Like I, it's, they're known for their destinations and she could literally be at a pool in Miami.

In her, in her action, she probably was in her backyard, but I would choose Salmah Hayek.

Of these four, so would I, but I will say, like, the now, if we, not that I'm a photography critic now, too, but the photos aren't photoing and there I don't think Yutsai did all of these I know he did some of them but he's like the guy he shot Alex Earl right Yutsai but there were two gymnasts no figure skaters disgusting no runners

should have been Caitlin Clark

But like she's not a model.

Sorry.

No, I'm getting caught up in the sports illustrated like no give us models.

Please give me someone I've never heard of.

Like it's supposed to it used to be like a discoverability.

I know you want Zandra.

I know that's your discovery.

I would be so happy if Zandra was like, and she is like the most insane sports illustrated body.

She deserves it.

She has curves and boobs.

Like, she's sick looking.

So that would be your choice.

Give it to Zandra.

Or turdy, obviously.

Or turdy.

Okay, well, congrats to the models.

Models.

Are you ready for our next story?

Story.

Story.

Mauricio Yumanski is packing on the PDA with a new mystery woman after a different packing on the PDA with mystery woman at Tomar Tomar Mont.

She's a little bit

trope of Real Houses and Beverly Hills ex-husbands like getting caught making out with girls.

And like,

I'm over it.

I just want to say, I wouldn't find this story to be like story worthy, except did you see this picture?

Of him grabbing her ass.

Of him hoisting her up.

Ooh, that's

a lot for the public.

They're waiting for ballet.

Well, they also don't know who she is, right?

They said like unmystery woman.

Yeah, and we have a picture of her face straight on.

And I like, nope, she could be anyone.

Yeah, she really could be anyone.

She looks like a mix of so many people.

i don't like hold a candle for him and kyle so like i'm not upset by this i do think it's icky i'm upset by this i do think it's icky when you have like daughters that age like she looks like she could be about pharah's age How would you feel if your father married someone your own age?

And was hoisting her up in the public next to a ballet parking for $16.

There is a way to be like courteous and respectful in your new life of like your children and your ex-wife, who you seem to be on good terms with.

And like things like this are not that.

No, every other picture is cute and kosher looking.

Right, like cozy, cozy, delicious.

Oh, they're smiling.

I'm a little tushy grab.

This is absurd.

It's the bachelor jump, you know, when you like run to the group date and you want to get their first straddle jump.

So you jump and straddle.

It's just not appropriate.

He's also an older gentleman.

I worry, of course, about his back.

Like, it's not nice.

As my people would say, it's a look of hood.

Yeah.

So aside from that, like, I would have had no notes about this.

Like, Marie, go, do your thing.

Kyle's obviously back commenting on Morgan's stuff.

Oh,

yeah.

And it's giving like Miles

again.

Miles.

Mile.

Oh, is that their celebrity name, Kyle and Morgan?

What about Corgan?

Corgan.

Corgan.

That's better than Mile.

Corgan is going Mile.

Yeah.

I don't know if Kyle cares.

Like it seems like she did on the season.

I think she cares.

Like, I think it's really hard.

You could be so moved on, so out of love with someone.

I think like seeing pictures like this, like knowing your kids are going to see this, like knowing the world is seeing this.

I think you care about that.

It's not like, oh, oh i wish it was me yeah but it's like oh my gosh my life is just out so you don't think she's sitting in her bathroom crying blasting that should be me

voice

no i don't okay i don't i just think it's like she doesn't like her life being so blacked in on like this i do think it's also only a matter of time before we get like the next set of photos and it's like a double date with Mauricio PK and these hot young things.

And these mystery blonde mystery women.

Even though PK's wasn't mystery.

She was like a big brother UK.

Right, right.

Amazing race.

Contestant.

Yeah, amazing race, whatever.

Yeah.

It's only a matter of time calling it now.

Yeah.

You know who she looks like a little bit.

Let me see.

She looks like Pharah.

Well, she looks like Hillary Duff.

She looks like a million people, Piper Pro.

She does look like a million people.

Like, doesn't she look like Hillary Duff a little bit?

And then Hillary Duff is back in the studio.

Hilly Duff.

Yeah, but I thought maybe Hillary was just there, like, sitting with Matt at work.

Yeah, Hillary Duff, like, tried to make news by being back in the studio.

Matthew Coma, her husband and a music producer, like posted a picture of her, like alluding to new music.

And I just want to say, like, I'm good.

No, I'm all set.

Like, the catalog of music you'd left us with is enough for a lifetime.

Like, thank you for your work.

Rest easy.

Yeah.

Unless it's going to be a re-recording of how

we need like an A Vici remix, you know?

Like, Tiesto get in there.

Rip.

I was going to say, this woman is the elk of Durit.

She does look like Durit.

I just want to say ship.

I'll never give up on those two.

Never gonna give you up.

Never gonna give you down.

And

you shouldn't give up.

I think if they're meant to be, like, it's still not their time.

Things are still too fresh.

Not enough time has passed.

Like, literally, a decade has to pass.

Like, they, it's kind of like the end of Daisy Jones.

Like, they'll finally get together when they both have Alzheimer's.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Good reference.

End of Daisy Jones.

Spoiler alert.

My bad.

There is at least one person listening to the show.

Who had just got Daisy Jones in the six rooms?

He's in the middle of Daisy Jones in the six.

My bad.

Like 100% my bad.

But we didn't say who.

Oh, true.

Right, right.

Our next story.

Zendaya sent Anna Sawai the sweet gift after their accidental Met Gala twinning moment.

Should I call a doctor?

Accidental.

My gala.

Twinning moment.

So as you said during our Met Gala recap, Zendaya and Anna Sawai were wearing a very similar Luke.

I thought there was enough difference.

Distinction,

but no, they had the same thought that they were wearing the same thing.

Zendaya, classy bra.

Wait, did you see the video of Law Roach on the red carpet, like being interviewed by like Entertainment Tonight or something?

But he's like, while he's being interviewed, he's like just looking down at the carpet, like seeing who's coming and who's going.

And you see him see Anna Sawai for the first time.

So we're getting his like live reaction.

He's like, oh, that's so funny.

She's wearing like Zendaya's outfit.

Like he looked like a little mad, but he kept it.

He kept it together.

Yeah.

I saw that video.

I maintain like Zendaya is just on another.

She's on another planet.

And to be honest, while the outfits were quite literally the exact same like items, right?

Like a white blazer, a white bell bottom.

They couldn't have been more different.

No, I agree.

Anyway, Zendaya sent Anna flowers.

So

because like the overall like rhetoric online was like, well, she looks worse than like nobody was like, who wore wore it better?

It wasn't even a question.

So she, like, got invited to the Met Gala.

Not only did she show up wearing the same as somebody else, like, it's a Zendaya.

Like, yikes.

So honestly, flowers, it was the least Zendaya could do.

Yeah, Law said, I think people thought there was some kind of disappointment on our end.

You know, Anna's stylist, Carla Welch, and I are very friendly.

We've known each other for years.

And Carla and I talked.

Zendaya sent Anna flowers because it was her first M.

But yeah, it wasn't any disappointment.

It was two people paying homage to two different people.

Yoko being Anna's inspiration and Diana Ross and Bianca Jacker being ours.

It just happened and they both look great and they're both beautiful women.

I mean, I hate the way people try to pin women or stylists against each other.

It was just all great.

They both look great.

Tell them, Law.

And I just feel so proud that I never did that.

No, I don't think, did I?

No.

Okay.

Yeah.

I'm saying everyone else did.

Like everyone else.

So toxic.

Yeah.

We lift up.

We lift up women.

We do in our own way.

In a sort of unique and peculiar kind of way.

We break them down to lift them up.

Right.

We make them like the worst versions of themselves so that they can return better.

Better.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's just like a little bit about us.

So in case anyone was wondering.

Was worried.

But this also confirms to me, I wish they hadn't addressed it because then you could be like, oh, you guys don't know anything about fashion.

These aren't the same things.

Right.

Explain to me how she was channeling Yoko Ono, the other girl.

For the theme.

Like, how does that apply?

Oh, well, I couldn't.

Black dandyism, Yoko Ono?

I couldn't explain that to you, no.

If anybody wants to sound off in the comments and just make the connection for me.

I'm sure it's there.

Yeah, of course.

The thing is, that's the thing with with the Met Gala.

If you try hard enough, like you can, it's like the meme where you're like doing all the math.

You can make an outfit connect to the theme.

But if we have to ask so many questions.

Yeah.

I don't know that it works.

No, no, no.

I'm sure that it's there.

We're just uneducated.

We are slobs.

Uneducated slobs.

Are you ready for our next story?

Is it four?

It is four.

Do you think I'm ready?

Yeah, I think you're ready.

Oh, okay.

Because Shia LaBeouf says Timothy Chalamay is doing better work than anyone alive clearing up beef rumors.

And I didn't realize until this moment that like Timothy Salamay, sort of like the reincarnated spirit of Shia LaBeouf.

He is.

Even thia is not dead.

No, he picked up the mantle that Shia set down.

Yeah, they also look so much alike.

They have the same voice.

Like you're telling me Shia wasn't in.

I mean, excuse me.

You're telling me Timothy wasn't in even Stevens.

Like I'm confused.

Or holes and that Shia is not in Dune.

He should be.

Right.

And Shia is not dating Kylie Jenner.

It's really true.

I never thought of the comparison because I don't really ever think of Shia LaBeouf.

No, and like their brand of actor, just like I don't watch Timothy, I don't watch Shaya.

If he's in something, I'm probably not seeing it.

Like, we're not the same.

And I was excited to see that Shaya was back in the news because then we get the opportunity to say, Shaya, Shaya, Shaya.

Well, days after making headlines with an interview in which he compared his ambitions and reputation to those of fellow actor Timothy Chalamay.

Oh, I didn't even see that.

He's really so irrelevant.

Yeah, Shaya shut down any suggestion of bad blood on monday by posting a screenshot on social media of what appeared to be a very friendly email exchange between them so he posted an email that timothy sent him in october 2023 saying subject electric this this like doesn't make timothy look great so it is a window into timothy's you know offline personality after having seen shia's performance in henry johnson which is a play by david mammet zosha's father oh yes shoshana from girls a lot of people don't know she's a Nepo baby.

Yes, she is.

So Shia was in her dad's little play.

Timothy emailed subject electric.

Absolutely blown away by your work the other night.

Totally electric.

Totally present at every turn.

King of your kingdom, even if that kingdom is a miserable four by four prison cell.

What a fantastic play.

I hope you guys take it to New York, and I hope this is the beginning of your work on stage and not an anomaly.

Timothy.

And Shia responded, thank you, doggie.

Every blessing to you.

Fun watching you evolve.

Take ownership, bang, bang.

Now, I did find it interesting that Timothy signed his email Timothy, you know, yeah, like so formal accent and everything, right?

And I didn't know if that's what he went by, like in his personal life.

It could have been Tim, it could have been Timmy, it could have been Tom, like a Tim Tim.

Like, so I guess he's so, and it does make sense, he's very serious.

Um, that he goes by Timothy.

Like, and how are we

calls him?

How are we meant to pronounce Timothy with the accent?

Because if it's not Timothy, what does the apostrophe on the E mean?

It's like, eh.

Timothy.

He is French.

Half.

And I assume the half is the apostrophe.

That's why only one E has the apostrophe and the other one doesn't.

Like, what?

Timothy?

I can't

conjecture on this.

I'm saying Timothy.

I do want to know what Kylie calls him.

Obviously, she hasn't, but I feel like she calls him, probably calls him like T.

Babe.

No, no, but like what, say she has to call across the house or something.

I feel like she called Tyga T.

Tim.

Such like a not a sexy name.

No, it's not.

Maybe Timmy.

Well, whatever.

Timmy's also not sexy.

You can't be like, hey, Timmy, give me that dick.

Maybe The.

Theo.

Theo.

Maybe.

Maybe she calls him sex slave Dora.

Probably.

But let's get back to the story at hand.

So obviously these two are fine.

And Chaya posted it with the quote saying, if you can bear to hear the truth, you've spoken, twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools.

Timothy Chalamay is doing better work than anyone alive.

We've been good.

So just clearing up the rumors.

That nobody heard.

That nobody heard.

And I'm not worried about these two.

And they are very similar.

And I guess there's enough room for both of them.

And there is actually not enough room for both of them because nobody likes or cares about Shia LaBeouf.

No, only one of them is succeeding at a time when we haven't heard about the other one and vice versa.

Oh, you think the two can't coexist?

Like Shia was popping off before Timothy came on the scene.

Yeah, but Shia's like canceled.

Yeah.

Like he's a no-go zone.

I don't think he gets like cast and stuff.

And that's why Shaya.

What's his name shit?

FKA twigs.

Like he was extremely abusive.

And I believe Margaret Quayley is involved in some because she dated him briefly as well.

And she was like starring in his like, you know, like short film.

Remember that whole thing?

Like it was, I'm not, I'm not fully versed on like the, I'm

forced to admit.

Yeah.

He's not, he's not that guy, you know?

So like Timothy, don't respond, you know?

Yeah, I do feel kind of weird like reading Timothy's private email.

It is always interesting to see how like people who we know like peripherally and publicly, like how they actually speak or act behind closed doors.

It feels like I shouldn't be.

I mean, it's not meant for me.

He sent it to Shia, like it was never meant for my eyes.

You know what this is reminding me?

When he sent it, he wasn't like, This is going to end up on a public consumption.

It's reminding me of Jeff Bezos.

We seriously have the same fucking brain.

Yes, it's reminding me of Jeff Bezos, too.

Like, you see this businessman, you see this nerd, like everybody has preconceived notions about him.

And then his private text messages get leaked.

And it turns out he just wants to get drunk with you, you know?

Not really drunk, just a little drunk, and then wake up and read the newspaper.

I feel like I've seriously finally moved on from that.

No.

And I can't go back.

Help.

I'm still at the risk.

I can only deal with what Jeff Bezos is doing in the present, you know.

New origin, right?

If I, if I take into account like reading the newspaper.

I feel like they're getting married any day now.

They always, they are getting married.

I know, like a couple of weeks ago, they were like setting up tables, you know?

Yeah.

I thought they were getting married over Christmas.

So like I've stopped being on wedding watch.

When they get married, they get married and I'm excited for them.

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Our fifth and final story is two parts of Bravo News.

First, I just feel like we need to say

Andy is saying that Roni is not canceled, that casting is heavily underway for Roni.

Execs met with 10 potential new housewives last week.

He is adamant that Roni isn't going anywhere.

So even though everyone was like, ready to be like, well, Roni, pack your bags.

It was so believable.

Yeah.

So sorry.

Like, not only was it in like reputable newspapers, it's like the shittiest TV show on the planet with the literary ratings that are worse than my Instagram stories.

Like, I, I, I didn't even think for a second it wasn't true or possible.

No, and it's like sometimes they'll say like a show is canceled or whatever.

It's like, but you love it.

So you're like, no, no, there's just some pose.

Like, it won't be back, whatever.

But the minute they were like, Roni's not, we're like, canceled.

Collective believement.

And like Bethany made a video addressing it, Sonia Morgan.

Like everybody was on board.

So he that's how he's wishful thinking.

No, that's how it should be.

It should be canceled.

He said, after reading a few headlines that claimed that the network had access the show, he said, quote, I don't know how else to say it.

We are between seasons on the housewives.

What's so interesting is last week when I was here, the Bravo execs met with 10 potential new Roni cast members.

This is called the casting process between seasons and it's heavily underway.

Okay, don't be rude.

Like we're yeah, like we're dumb, right?

So patronizing.

We can understand that if you met with people.

This is called the casting process.

Like we fucking know.

He said, that's why nothing is.

And his attitude check today.

like

he said so I don't know what to say it's really odd it just keeps going on and on there you go okay he's like being mad who do you think the 10 that they met with are was it you I was having a conversation with about who they should cast yeah we came up with some good ideas Danielle Bernstein and Melissa Wood Health and Melissa Wood Health Melissa Wood Health is like super successful and like very um I think she has a really interesting personal life everybody knows Danielle from Instagram she's kind of like crazy like she would be great for it they both have like big personalities and they're close friends and they're both like unapologetically themselves like it or not like it or not.

And sorry, they're both wealthy.

Like for me, that's the bar.

And they are real friends, like for years.

I think that if you took a, that group maybe and some peripheral friends who we don't know who are wealthy and interesting too, um, that would be cool.

Yeah.

I thought that was a good select, especially Melissa Wood.

Yeah.

She has such an interesting story too, right?

She was like a cocktail waitress.

She met her husband who like owned the bar where she was cocktail interesting.

He ended up becoming like one of the biggest like nightlife.

He is one of the founders of the Tao Group.

Toward.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Tao Group.

I didn't know that that's how they met.

Yes, yes, yes.

And then she built her own like empire, Melissa Wood Health, which is like online fitness.

Yeah.

People love, like, she's an influencer.

Everybody loves her.

Like, she would be great for like bringing people to watch.

And then I'm sure she has very interesting friends.

But even like the videos that she posts on social media, I think people like really clown on her because they're like.

Very meditative, like

preposterous.

But that, like, people's opinions of her don't stop her from being being who she is, which I think is the exact elk of a good housewife.

Having like a really strong identity and like sense of self.

Like, and I like who I am and I know who I am.

And even if you don't like it or you think it's like silly or goofy, like I'm still going to be this way.

I'm not going to pretend to be perfect and normal or what you think is normal.

So, but it sounds like they're not entirely scratching the

new gen cast because like some of the OG housewives, like Erin Leachy and I think Sy, were like posted Andy's response being like, we're still here.

And it's like, we actually do need to wipe the slate clean.

Everybody's got to go.

Okay, So I'm sure they're going to keep one or two because otherwise then it would be like nothing.

Accepting that it was a failure.

I do think they should keep Erin.

And I think when we talk about like people who should be on the show, we're talking about like, you know, even Melissa Wood.

I'm sure like Melissa Wood knows Erin or they've met before.

It's not like such a social stretch.

Okay.

I think Erin can stay.

I think Uba and Bryn can't stay, right?

Bryn is gone after last season.

But Bryn's already left, and I don't think Uba was right for the housewives.

And Uba was like caught.

She had a bad last season.

No,

that's Bryn.

I think Uba was involved too.

She was involved, yes, but Bryn was the one with the big lie.

Okay.

Jessell, I think, has been marred in like feeling like she shouldn't be on the show since the, by the way, this is coming from someone who's never watched, but I know there were allegations against her that she moved to New York for the show.

No, so with Jessel, like she had a rough start and then she became the hero, like New York Times, everyone.

And I think a lot of her hero dumb is extremely unwarranted.

And she's, a lot of it has to do with her husband.

Like people like him.

He's like funny and weird.

She's got to go.

sorry she's got to go okay great so you're saying sorry jan lions has to go oh yeah shanelons is gone so sigh in the first season was trying so fucking hard like it was actually painful to watch like you respected how badly she wanted the show to work but like my god pretend quite cool i do think she ended up like getting better i think she has potential if i had to keep one more i would keep sigh and her and aaron are actually friends Okay, that's good.

And I know we like Erin, but as far as the show, she was a very, she wasn't like a big pot stir, but she was a really good, like a like a narrator almost.

She was, she's very sound of mind.

Okay.

And you need someone who can like talk to the audience like in a real way.

Okay.

So we'll see.

Yeah.

It will be fun to watch the casting process and then like see what they decide.

Yeah, but they did this two years ago and it wasn't fun.

No, but they ended up with it.

Even when it was like Jenna Lyons and Rebecca Minkoff, I never thought that was like a good idea, but it was just interesting that that's what they would do.

Yeah, they went down the wrong path.

Let's, it's not too late.

Turn it around.

Let's start again.

Yeah.

And then also, Valley news reporting that the Valley is going to be hit with a big cash shakeup ahead of season three as the new episodes are suffering the lowest ratings yet.

Oh, really?

Of course, like once I join, everybody stops watching the show.

Meanwhile, last year, everybody was like, please watch the Valley.

Apparently, the most recent episode of Vanderpump World spin-off, The Valley hit an all-time low in viewership, bringing in just 390,000 people when the show aired on Bravo last week.

Oh, guys.

Well, that's live.

That doesn't account for like on-demand and

on Bravo.

That's bad.

Yeah.

The number marks a decline from the previous series' low record, which was set the week before.

Oh, no.

Due to numbers dropping week after week for season two of The Valley, Bravo will apparently be making adjustments if the show comes back for a third season.

I think it will come back for a third season.

They're franchising it.

And I think it really, you need to give these things a little time.

Yes, it has potential.

And so a cast shake-up like would be good.

Except I don't know that like the cast is the issue.

Do you know what I mean?

Well, I think that if I had to, I enjoy the show and I'm watching week to week.

So I'm not like someone who's like tuned it out.

But I think if I had to imagine why the show is not like as popular this season, it's like a lot of the core dramas, Michelle and Jesse, and they're just not that interesting.

Or like, we, like, we really don't know them.

We don't know them.

It's not entertaining.

Like,

and I, this was my thought from last night's episode.

And you guys are not going to like it, but like, it's way uninteresting without Jax.

He's fucking crazy.

Yeah.

We're all talking about him.

We don't see him.

And they did a flashback.

I'm like, oh, yeah, Jax was on the show.

It was better when he was on.

Like, he's a crazy person.

He's a perfect reality star.

He's toxic.

He's terrible.

From an entertainment perspective, like he is a big get for the show.

He's like a pull.

And him and Brittany, too.

And so,

you know, I don't know how we deal with that.

Yeah.

So I think that's more the issue.

It's like there's drama and there's a good cast.

And sure, you could shake it up in the sense that like we need La La and Sheen and we need them now.

We need them now.

And we need like less Zach.

But I would say like taking off like Zach is not a cash shakeup.

I would say we're moving away from the Jesse and Michelle drama would be a cash shake-up and perhaps what's right for the show.

Even though, like, I, even though they're the only people bringing it up.

And I want to support Michelle, like, as a woman, like, I just want the best for her.

I also just don't think the show is the best for her.

I don't think she's meant to be on reality TV and I think it's contributing negatively to her life.

And actually, last night's episode, like, obviously we're always talking about Jesse and Michelle, but it really, for me, it wasn't about them.

Like, the episode was so boring until the very end where like two things happened.

What's that setup of the episode?

They're still in Santa Barbara.

Santa Barbara, they go to a winery.

The bus breaks down.

They have to go back to to a gas station.

Right.

Danny comes in.

Danny comes.

Danny's home.

Then they go to the winery and whatever.

And like, it's all so boring until they get home.

And they're obviously just been drinking all day.

Danny like drank a lot at the winery to sort of catch up because he was a couple of hours late because he was working.

And then they get home.

And I guess in the pantry, there are no cameras.

So Danny, like, runs into the pantry.

And I think Janet sees him.

He's just chugging straight up from a bottle of tequila, like hiding it, even though everyone's drinking.

Like, what's the big deal?

I mean, Jesse woke up that morning after his like big drama

the night before, right?

He woke up and was like walking around the house with like a glass of Sauvignon Blanc.

He looked so lame.

And everybody was like, what's with the champagne?

Like, so it's like, this isn't a group where you have to hide your drinking.

Everybody's blackout.

So I feel like he's hiding it from Nia.

So, but yeah, okay.

So

they have a chef come.

Danny falls asleep.

She tries to wake him up.

And it's like one of those sleeps where like, he could be dead.

Yeah.

So she goes to dinner and there's an empty chair next to it.

And everybody's like, where's your husband?

And she's like, you know, he's so tired.

Like he worked and then he drove all the way out here and like, you know, the winery.

And she wouldn't acknowledge like he's sleeping because he's blackout, not because he's tired and has three kids.

Sorry, I love her.

Yeah, no, no.

Okay.

So it's like not a big deal.

It's just something like you would talk shit about your friend behind her back being like, why couldn't she just say that?

I know.

Like, I understand.

She's a pageant girl.

Like, she just is not going to say it.

So they, they acknowledge it.

It was very pageanty of her.

But like, Brittany and Jasmine are getting so mad at this.

And I'm like, okay, you losers need to stop.

Like, because Brittany's like, and I get what Brittany's saying, she's like, I like come out, I bleed out.

Like, I'm talking about my kids and my husband.

Like, and you you can't just acknowledge that your husband's drunk like who gives a shit like be real she was saying for the show but like be real and so I get why she's like annoyed but like they're getting so bent out of shape over it Jasmine it really is the one who made it a thing and they're like talking shit about

just because you've aired out all your dirty laundry on television like doesn't mean that the rest of us have to and like you protect your husband like yes that's an admirable world I don't even by the way Nia protecting Danny, that is Nia being real.

That's who Nia is.

And we all have eyes.

We could see what it is.

I don't need to.

And you didn't do anything bad at the winery stand up and then be like my husband drank too much like why do you need no but jasmine's really trying to make a connection between this incident with her girlfriend right right right which by the way was one year ago like they said it keeps saying like it was literally a year ago she brought it up on camera two weeks ago to like resolve it and she brought it up again now so i don't even know if she was necessarily bothered when it happened but like she wanted it for the show so she's trying to make a connection between like his drinking like she's hiding his drinking and this incident with her and her girlfriend where they flashed back i guess they filmed it but didn't make it like a real scene he was super apologetic he was like i'm really embarrassed it's like not who i am i believed him um

but like jasmine doesn't want to let it go because it's like really what claim like brings her into the storyline so she's just like trying so hard to like make a connection and so nia like puts her ear up to the door and she hears brittany and jasmine like talking and she just goes in there being like what's your problem like just because your life is falling apart like mine is too and i have to give major shout out because i feel like we're really hard on kristen doty she was the only one being like who cares he probably is tired because he has three kids and he's drunk she literally was holding space for two things her and luke were like not were the only ones not wanting to like dog on danny for being drunk they were just like i mean he did drive like three hours here three hours back he did work and they have three kids yeah and he drank both things can be true i'm like who cares like they were the only ones being like why are we talking about this yeah like it's literally it's not a thing it was so fucking losery i was like it was the first time i've ever been like brittany stop brittany i can give more lenience to because she's obviously going through a lot and so she's like not making the right decisions always.

And they're all so drunk.

They've just been drinking all day.

And like you look around the house.

I don't even think they like highlight how much these people actually drink.

Like so much alcohol.

That's so crazy.

I know because they're like old.

Yeah.

And their parents.

Aren't they hungover in the morning?

And I guess also like without the kids, like they can drink like they used to, but who would want to?

Like if I had the two days off, like I'm working on me.

I'm charging.

I'm filling up my tank, not depleting it.

So it was the Danny thing.

And then what was the second thing that happened?

I think like maybe that was a Michelle and Jesse.

No, but the thing is, the reason that Nia found out that like Jasmine and Brittany were talking shit is because Zach told her.

Cause he was like, well, you know, Brittany thought she should tell Janet what I said at Jax's bar.

He was like waiting for his moment.

And honestly, I was like cracking up.

He's so like transparent, but I loved it.

He's so transparent.

But like somebody needed to say it because Nia wouldn't have known.

But it's like, you claim that's your best friend.

Like you're so lame.

Like that is hysterical with Benjiana Sick there.

Benjiana Sick did not show up, which is probably why the episode had record low ratings, if I had to guess.

It was a bad episode.

Like, I'm making it like my recap's hilarious, but like, my recap is funnier than the episode.

So, where do you stand?

Like, do you still support me and Danny?

Like, yes.

Through and through.

Like, they are not toxic.

Of course, they're not perfect people.

But, like, they're trying to make it, like, the group is trying to make it seem like they have a lot of problems that they're hiding from us.

I don't think they do.

I think they're a regular couple.

There's like a scene in in the sprinter where he's at home and he's about to leave to meet them.

And she's like, wait, go back to the house and need you to pick up a few things.

And she's like, yelling at him, she's being like such a nasty bitch wife.

And everybody hears her and they're like, and she's like, sorry, guys.

And I think they're trying to make it seem like a conspiracy.

There's like something going on in this house.

I think they're just regular people with like stress and jobs and kids.

And like, it's honestly probably like more relatable than it is toxic.

It's not, they're trying to make it a thing.

No, and I definitely think that she is someone who likes to have a sheen of perfection over everything, but that's also like the the pageant girl in her.

And I don't think she pretends to be otherwise.

But it's like, just because she's acting like everything's perfect doesn't mean that actually below the surface, it's awful.

It's probably just not

perfect.

It's real.

Right.

You have three kids living in an apartment.

Like, it's hard.

Right.

Go back to the house and get me my thing.

Yeah.

She's like, I'm your wife.

Go back to the house.

It was extremely real.

Like, honestly, it was the most, the closest I've ever felt to her, you know?

I know.

I seriously love them.

Yeah.

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