I've Got Beef Between My Teeth: Thursday, November 14th, 2024

Good morning, Millennials.

Welcome back to the toast and happy Thursday.

A really relaxing sort of day, although it should be Friday.

So I'm feeling like the theme of today's episode is Injustice.

Isn't that the theme of every episode, La Turte?

It's so true.

When you have a chip on your shoulder like we do, every day is like Injustice Day.

It's true, but it is Thursday, which is exciting.

Latter half vibes.

Yes.

Merch is out.

We actually slayed this collection because we made enough merch to wear every day of the week.

because tomorrow I can still wear the girl my oversized toasty tea.

Yeah.

Today I'm wearing my girly swirly university set.

Yeah, I graduated from GSU.

Whoa, I mean, talk about getting an education.

Talk about a mind.

Oh, wait.

You know what I did yesterday?

I didn't even talk to you.

We didn't FaceTime yesterday.

Once again, Ben coming between us.

He was home last night.

I could sense it.

Well, he's not home tonight.

So, like, just wait.

Oh, but I'm not home.

Actually, I'm home.

I'm home.

I have a a big, I'm doing something big today.

What?

I'll tell you guys all about it tomorrow.

You already know.

What is Jackie doing today?

Think about what the PR company I told you that they reached out.

Oh, Jackie's a big day.

Yeah, okay.

You guys, it's like literally like not even that crazy.

It's like, okay, whatever.

Not at all.

Not at all.

Well, what I did yesterday was kind of like make a dream come true, and that dream was my own, added to the list of dreams we accomplished in the month of November.

I went on the glee podcast officially.

You did say say you were going to do a podcast yesterday and you couldn't text for an hour and I didn't even ask which podcast it was.

Yeah, it was the official Glee one, and that's what you really missed on Glee.

How was it?

Was it everything you dreamed of?

What episode did you recap?

It wasn't a recap.

It was just like interviewing, you know, famous gleeks.

And so we just talked like a lot about

history.

Exactly.

About like my POV, like my experience watching Glee.

And then obviously I was peppering them with questions.

They were peppering me with questions, hosted by Tina and Artie.

Tina Pepper.

Yeah, also known as Jenna and Kevin, but to me they're Tina and Artie.

And I don't know when it's coming out.

I think actually soon.

It was really good.

I'm excited for the, for my fellow gleeks to hear it.

That's really exciting.

I'm glad they still are D1.

Yeah.

Despite.

Despite, yeah.

Well, I actually brought up Ben.

And so one of the hosts, one of the hosts, Jenna, is a toaster.

And so I had a feeling she might have heard what Ben had said about Artie.

And I like definitely was going in like feeling uncomfortable.

So I brought it up first because Ben was like going on and on about Artie on our Halloween episode.

And I'm like, Ben, you can't just like say stuff like that.

So I brought it up first just to like sort of get it out of the way.

And nobody seemed offended.

Like they were, they were cool.

Phew.

Phew.

Huge sigh of relief.

Major.

Oh, I finished my book last night.

You guys don't read it.

Something happened.

Frida, it's not like I think Frida was usurped.

Like I think someone wrote under her name.

Like it was not Frida.

I was a mess.

I think that Frida is like actually under too much pressure.

Like she had too much success too soon.

And, you know, she's like an official writer of Amazon.

Like she's like a kid.

She has a big Kindle unlimited contract.

And I think she owes them like X amounts of manuscripts per quarter.

And I think she's buckling under the pressure of Amazon.

Like I think Jeff Bezos' boot is on her neck.

And I think we're seeing that reflected in the work.

I think Frida could like write these books in her sleep.

And someone took over Frida's name.

Like maybe, maybe she even outsourced, like, okay, they want all these books for me.

Like, you know how to write in the Frida style.

And like, maybe for some people, it passed as Frida.

It was not a Frida Rita.

It was not a Frida Rita.

And the Frida Rita that I read that was not a Rita either was called The Coworker.

Okay.

So just putting it out there, what was your book?

This one was called The Boyfriend, The Boyfriend.

Put it on the list of like Frida books that are not Rita-ing in the way that they should.

Ugh, I didn't bring my pad and paper up here.

What do you mean?

You like literally just get like my pad and paper.

Just get a pad and paper and leave it up there.

I have pads downstairs and papers.

I finished Outer Banks.

Wow.

I did.

Our conversation yesterday got me talking about it and Ben has been like, how can I be a chai nick?

Like want to finish finish Outer Banks?

But no, actually.

So Outer Banks.

He's obsessed with Outer Banks.

Like, he loves it.

And, like, the experience I'm having where it's, Jackie, like, when I thought it could have got any more unrealistic, they take a boat from South Carolina to Morocco.

Like,

like, it's so stupid.

I actually can't participate.

But what kind of boat?

Oh, they steal this like fishing boat.

Oh, and they get caught.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

They get caught in like a crazy storm.

They're in the middle of the ocean in Africa.

There's a storm a mile ahead and they drive straight into the storm.

Two people fall off the boat.

And it's like, it's waves like you would only see in movies.

And the whole thing was AI generated and like, they made it out alive.

Like the boat is intact.

Like

it's too, it's too unbelievable for me.

But Ben is obsessed with it.

And what was in Morocco?

The blue crown, of course.

Oh, God, no.

No.

Yeah, it's really so silly.

Ben is obsessed with it.

So like, I was happy to not finish it.

Like, I read a spoiler.

I'm like, you know what?

It's good enough for me.

But Ben was hawking me all night.

Like, want to finish Outer Banks?

And it's either that or Harry Potter.

He wants to watch the next one.

Like, I need a serious break from Harry Potter.

So I gave him Outer Banks.

Okay.

That is so fair.

That is so funny.

Jackie.

And I actually, like, the last episode was so long.

I fell asleep, like, with 20 minutes left.

So Ben was telling me what happened this morning in the last 20 minutes.

And his description was so crazy, but I know that that's what happened.

I'm like, there's no way all of this happened in 20 minutes.

Wait, but in the last season that I watched, didn't it end with them finding like some sort of treasure?

They like give some to like a museum.

They're esteemed in the community.

Yeah.

So do they have money now?

Oh, well, they did.

Yes, they did.

And what happened to their money?

They decided to, it was actually, I actually really liked where it was going at first.

They were like, listen, we have, and it's not, it's not money for life.

Between the six of them, I think it was like a million dollars or something.

And they decided to like invest in land.

Like the house that John B.

owns and then the house JJ grew up in was up for sale at foreclosure, like it was being foreclosed on.

So they wanted to buy it and start a business where like people can buy bait from them.

They have like a little garden like and they were all going to live on like a commune, very much like a kid's, like honestly.

And when they went to go buy the land that JJ's dad, who's like a fugitive on the run, foreclosed on, someone was also trying to bid it.

So it was a property that was worth about like $50,060,000.

They spent $750,000 on it.

So like they were being stupid from the get-go.

And then they had like this little bit of money reserved for property taxes.

And of course, JJ steals it and uses it on some bullshit, like he bet on a race or something.

Like, so they had tried to be like smart with the money but they ended up being dumber than anybody could have been and it was actually and I'm somebody I'm like a big priority of mine is like financial like it's like a one of my priorities in life is like financial stability and financial literacy and to see and I'm not reckless with my money I'm really not some people like to watch like six idiots be so reckless No, and it's frustrating that like all season, all of the seasons, like John Jay had this house that

they always could go to.

And then the second he comes into into money like oh, we need to pay for the house.

Yeah, no, and by the way, it's next door to John.

So they built this, like they called it Poglandia.

Like, actually, the more I talk about the show, the more embarrassed I am to have watched it.

Like, that's how it works.

So, they built this compound, which like between JJ's house, they build like a clubhouse.

And all of a sudden, they're next door neighbors.

Yeah, that was a new development that I just sort of went with.

And for like 20 minutes in episode two, like, they had a thriving business and the people in the community loved it.

On their dock, they had this bait shop so people could drive up in their boats, buy snacks, bait, merch.

Like, it was a good idea, and people in the community loved it.

And then, of course, like, their property taxes get raised, and they don't have enough money, so they have to go to court.

And, like, what happened a year ago when they had no money and property taxes got raised?

They didn't own this big piece of property yet.

Who was paying the rent?

I don't know who was paying for John B.

All of a sudden, the financials are a question.

So, all of a sudden, they're tax-paying individuals because, yeah, they were all

squatting at John B.'s property that his dad bought.

So, he bought it, but like, what about the mortgage, the taxes, the insurance?

Like, I don't know.

And where's Sean B.'s dad now?

I know that he was alive.

Yeah.

Sorry, spoiler.

Yeah, then spoiler, he died.

Okay.

Did I see him die?

Did you see them find the city of gold?

Yes.

Oh, okay.

I remember.

I remember now.

Yeah, he like sort of sacrificed his own life for Pakistan.

And Ward gone.

Ward gone, yeah.

Because he tried to like steal in the 11th hour.

Yeah, exactly.

Now I remember.

I've totally forgot about all that.

Thank you for now.

I'm oriented in the show.

I know where I am.

So it's just, it's the theme of the show is like genuine silliness.

And like, you really need to suspend so much disbelief.

And like we were talking about, we were talking about acting.

I'm a person who is like so firmly planted in reality.

Like I had a really hard time.

And then like,

and then like the moral compass of the show sort of like gets off kilter where they're all like actual criminals now.

Like they stole someone's boat.

What's that guy's story?

Yeah, no, and they're not just.

Like they're not, it used to be they would break the law like for the sake of something and now they're just doing it like for fun and i i actually can't

understood well i might still watch it we shall see just like prepare yourself for the silliness oh i will yeah i will so like it's riverdale it's seriously riverdale by the sea it's riverdale but i love that riverdale by the sea

So, yeah, anything else new with you, Lauterd, since we don't talk anymore?

Now that we don't talk, what's new with me?

You know, I tried a pop-up bagel yesterday.

I've had one before.

And it's very rare that, like, these hype things, like, there's a lot of food, foodie stuff, whether it's restaurants or companies that get like so much hype on social media.

And I never end up trying them because like most of the time, it's not anything that would entice me.

But Ben got a delivery yesterday.

They had like a collab, and I had one of the bagels.

Who were they collabing?

Ben's like favorite.

What is that?

Pickle de Gallo?

Yeah.

You know that stuff Ben loves?

They made like a cream cheese with them.

So Ben got it and tried it.

And there was like 50, of course Ben got like 20 bagels.

Yeah.

And oh my God, they're literally amazing.

Like, and I know you're going to say, like, how can a bagel be like, what's different?

It's a bagel.

No, it's not.

It was so fucking good.

The presentation is really good and really fun.

They popped up down here like a few months ago and Zach like came home with the whole Schmorgas borg and it was really it was a good fun thing.

And I actually realized I had a pop-up bagel this weekend.

Okay.

Because the restaurant I was dining at serves pop-up bagels.

Like they're good.

Like I feel like I was always clowning on like things everybody likes.

And this is something that everybody likes for good reason.

Like it's really good.

But it's also, it is hard to do like a bad bagel.

Actually, I don't know.

But

you could have a bad bagel if you're not trying.

You know, some places have stinky bagels, but like it's, it's a delicious thing.

I have a hot ton of traditional bad has bad bagels.

And they actually need to do better like as a as a brand.

Starbucks.

Do not get a bagel at Starbucks.

I mean, I have like many times, and it's never good.

That's crazy.

And you live in New York City.

Oh, no, no.

I should check it at like an airport.

I never go instead of like a bagel.

No, no.

But I've got.

Like, Starbucks, New York location shouldn't even have bagels on the menu.

Or they should, like, source local bagels, something.

It's disgraceful.

They're so bad.

They're like worse.

They're like what you get in a Delta Sky Lounge.

Honestly, same for Duncan.

And these are like breakfast places.

These are chains of breakfast.

And so they should be putting a little bit more of their Starbussy into their bagel selection.

They should do a collab collab with perhaps pop-up or one of those bagels.

They should put their star bussy into a lot of their items, like most of them.

Yeah, yeah.

They need to start with their coffee.

Except when I'm criticizing Starbucks, which I often do, just know I'm not talking about their sourdough grilled cheese.

That's a good item.

And I think it's really important to have people in your life who are constantly teaching you new things, like friends that you can learn from.

And for me, like one of the greatest things Brian Kelly ever did for me was like, actually, I was in this studio.

We were driving to the Hamptons.

He picked me up after the toast.

He's like, oh, I got you Starbucks.

Like, I picked up a grilled cheese.

And I'm like, wait, they have grilled cheese at at Starbucks?

I had never heard

when I tell you it was the most delicious thing.

And I get them all the time because Ben goes to Starbucks every morning.

And sometimes I'm like, yeah, I'm being fat.

I'm like, grab me one of those grilled cheeses.

Throw it in.

It's huge.

It's oily.

It's cheesy.

Like, you know, it's 10,000 calories.

It is absolutely divine.

Not enough people know that.

It's kind of like a secret menu item.

Oh,

secret project.

Check it out next time you go.

I know you don't go to Starbucks, but the next time you do, check it out.

I don't.

My husband goes all the time.

I like their egg bites, I'll say that.

They're a little needlessly oily, but they're good.

Are your kids obsessed with cake pops yet?

Like, I know that's like a part of like modern children's.

I mean, if I gave them one, they'd be obsessed, but they don't know what that is.

Yeah.

You'll be making them at home in no time.

Oh, how cute.

Yeah.

Oh, I have to say something, and I don't mean to embarrass my husband, but the absolute craziest thing happened last night.

What?

So at like four-ish, we were deciding on dinner and we're like, you know what, let's like have like a good dinner.

Like let's really treat ourselves.

So we went to the kosher grocery and he got like two huge ribeyes

for cooking.

He cooked up this fee.

So, I'm like sitting on the couch and he's making me dinner.

And it's just like a great night, you know?

And the house smells good, the smoke alarm is going off.

Like, it's good.

And we sit down, and whenever we make steak, Ben puts the steak on cutting boards and cuts it up.

And then we just like eat straight off the cutting board.

So, I'm like looking at all the different pieces.

I'm like, you know, I'm very particular.

Grab a piece, and like

he was like, How is it?

And Ben makes really good steaks.

So, like, I wasn't even concerned.

And it was like, literally, it was horrible.

And I was like, oh.

How?

I was like, it just tastes like a little bland.

And then he was like, he was like, oh, my God.

I forgot to like

season the steak, like marinate it or whatever before.

Like, I just put it on the grill.

But can't you do that?

No, I'm sorry.

Like, Worcestershire, salt, pepper, oregano, like whatever.

Salt, pepper, salt, pepper.

No, no, no.

I ate a plain steak.

He just forgot to cook it?

Yeah.

And I was like, are you okay?

And then he started.

Does he like it?

Well, at first, before he realized his mistake, he took a bite.

He's like, I think it's good.

I'm like, no, you don't.

Then he was like, wait.

And he tried to put Worcestershire on it like after.

Oh, yeah.

But like, Worcestershire is something that needs to be cooked.

Like, it was like.

100%.

It might as well have raw egg.

Yeah, exactly.

And I was so like quiet mad.

I was like, nut me, you made me wait like two hours, and this is what I ate.

Like, actually.

That's insane.

Did he have it with like steak sauce?

Because you can really dress anything up.

Of course, you know, he made like a blend of.

Ben can make anything work.

Of course he made a blend.

And I went to bed hungry and I just thought like he walks around celebrity chef, celebrity chef, you literally forgot to marinate your steak.

Like he needs to be shamed for that.

Season it.

Crazy now.

A little seasoning.

And then he blamed me.

Wait, he blamed me.

How?

He was like, oh, well, I really didn't want to make a dish.

So I was like planning on seasoning it like whilst still in the packaging.

And like, obviously I forgot.

But because like, whenever I tell him,

whenever I tell him to cook, I'm like, just try and like be prudent with the amount of dishes.

Like, I always say, like, don't make a ton of dishes.

So he like literally used that against me.

I see.

It's a really good strategy on his part.

It is.

But I'm not buying it.

I'm not buying it either.

Like, look at me.

Do I look frail and weak?

I didn't have dinner last night.

No, that's so crazy because I had the opposite experience because I actually had so much beef last night.

I don't know if you saw my story, but I made them hamburger meatballs.

I mean, you do look jacked.

Like, seriously.

I just told you.

I made hamburger meatballs, which are they just meatballs?

Like, no, because they're not meatballs.

they're more hamburgers than they are meatballs.

Yeah, because it's all about the seasoning.

Like, I didn't use Italian seasoning, I just seasoned them the way I would season a hamburger, but like, a girl can't make a hamburger, it just can't be done.

Like, I don't use my grill, I'm not making it on the stove, but I can make a meatball.

So, I made them into little balls and they were so tasty.

Hamburger meatballs.

But it's also all about the vibes, too.

Because, yes, technically, the ingredients aren't that dissimilar from an Italian meatball, but it's the vibe with little ketchup, a little cheese, a little pickle, tomato, onion.

Like, girls can't make hamburgers.

I'm in complete agreement.

Unless, like, at the kosher grocer, they actually sell prepackaged patties.

Like, unless the patties are made and they put like garlic and onion, they make them for you.

For sure.

Let me ask you, how would you cook that?

Ben taught me.

It's four minutes on each side.

Like, it's actually incredibly easy.

I tried to make a hamburger on the stove once, and I didn't love the results.

The caraway cast iron, that's what I use.

I like to put meat in the oven.

Ben and I always talk about this.

He likes to cook meat on the stove.

He doesn't like to use the oven when he cooks.

I like to dress up my food and put it in the oven so I know when it comes out, it's ready.

I don't have to keep checking it.

Thermometer.

My problem is like, why is it that you can make a patty, no matter how like long and flat you make it, like it ends up in a round ball?

Like it, why does it always shrivel up?

Like, how do you even make a smash burger?

Like, I've never, every time I've made a hamburger, it like shrivels up like to a testicle.

What is that?

I don't know, but that's why I just went straight for the meatball shape.

And this is really good.

We are all doing what we have to do to survive.

And I get that.

And like, you got dinner on the table for you and your family.

And anyone who has anything to say about that will talk to me first and we had plenty of beef we had beef between our teeth i've got beef between my teeth

it wouldn't be lost

without my floss

the way that episode of sweet life zack and cody had such an impact on me individually and like only me and my group of like friends from high school are obsessed with it like i feel as though it's not like a cultural thing that everybody like talks about and references i don't even know what it was about and i just know it was the kid from Ugly Betty, Betty's sister's son.

Justin Suarez.

Justin Suarez.

I was going to say Justin Guarini.

Justin Suarez.

He has Justin

Guayarini energy in that episode of Sweet Life of Zach and Cody where he leaves it all on the stage.

Yeah.

So like, that's just something that meant a lot to me.

I forget where I was going.

He left no crumbs.

He ate and left no crumbs, exactly.

So try out hamburger meatballs.

If you are looking for a

family-friendly dish and you've got ground beef and you don't don't know what to do with it.

I just know that Ben's not home for dinner tonight.

So, like, I will be eating, like.

What are you craving, Turd?

Like, I'm just going to be eating, like, eat what I find.

You know, you have those pop-up bagels.

That's probably what I'll have.

Scavenging.

It'll be, it'll be rough for me.

Like, tonight.

Okay, well, I'll FaceTime you because at least we'll have that.

Like, with Ben, you'll go hungry.

Yeah.

Without Ben, you'll go hungry, but you will be like emotionally fulfilled.

Not that.

Not that you wouldn't be with Ben, but sisterly fulfilled.

Yeah, it's kind of like a different sort of fulfillment.

It is a different fulfillment center for sure.

So Thursdays are great because they're very relaxed, right?

Like Wednesday, we had so much to do between the merch launch and deer toasters.

I definitely felt like a little bit on edge throughout the entire experience.

I'm so sorry.

Yeah, no, it's okay.

And I got through it.

And I think everybody really enjoyed it.

So that's great.

Today, Thursdays, I find so relaxing.

It's like the day before Friday.

We have nothing to do.

Friday, we have Queenie and Weenie.

We always like to wrap things up.

Today, we can just like talk, you know?

Yeah.

We actually have some really funny, random stories.

Funny?

Yeah.

I'm excited to get into some of them.

And I guess like without further ado, we could do that.

I wasn't bringing up the run of show like for the purpose.

Sometimes I do bring up the run of show for the purpose of like, you know, moving into the second half.

But if you have anything else you want to chat about, I'm open to chatting.

No, I feel as though we've dillied and we've dallied.

And we could get into the fast five stories that you need to know.

I mean, you don't have to tell me twice.

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Our first story, some exciting news to update you on, because I feel like we never have an update.

But Hoda Coppy's today show replacement has been revealed nearly two months after her exit announcement.

So there's two things here, like her today show hour and then Jenna, which we'll get to.

But first, it has been revealed that Craig Melvin will be taking over for Hoda Copy when she exits the Today Show on January 10th.

Craig Melvin is the new anchor of the Today Show, Savannah Guthrie gushed, of one of the most popular decisions NBC News has ever made.

Hoda said to Craig, you were made for this job.

You will have all the things that this job needs.

You're the right person for it.

Al Roker said that he did not have the words, but he was so happy for his colleague.

As for Craig, he's excited and grateful.

He said it meant a lot to inherit the role from Hoda as she is the heart of the show.

He said, this is the latest in a long line of blessings.

He will continue doing the third hour today with Al Roker, Shanil Jones, and Dylan Dreyer.

He said, I talked to mom and dad yesterday, and I'm thankful they're still young enough and healthy enough to be able to see this.

That's really true.

So that was real upset.

Meanwhile, the fourth hour, Hoda and Jenna, will transition into Jenna and Friends, where Jenna will, quote, date different co-hosts until they find the right fit.

Until they find the right fit.

But

I would just say,

make haste.

It's Jeopardy.

It's Jeopardy.

I do prefer a decision, but I understand like you got to see how the shows actually go.

By the way, I saw this Craig news this morning, and for me, like the,

I don't know if I'm unique in the fact, like, I don't care who replaces Hoda when she's like doing the news.

Like that's the job a million people could do.

Like to sit in Kiki and talk to celebrities, like that's so interesting.

And I think that requires such a different skill set.

And so that's been my focus.

Like that's who I'm really eager to see.

So happy for Craig.

Like I'm really like, he's a cutie.

I really don't know much about him.

He'll do a great job.

I don't care.

I didn't realize that they had like made somewhat of an announcement when it comes to the Jenna thing.

I thought they just announced the they slipped this in.

And I hate this stuff.

This is exactly what you said.

Exactly.

What you said when we were talking about this, like that they not do the Jeopardy thing where they try out a million people.

people stopped caring.

And it didn't work for Jeopardy because they ended up hiring the person they meant to hire the first day they found out Alex Trebek died, but they did it because he had some old tweet about someone in a wheelchair.

Like they should have just made that decision day one because it got so stupid.

Because if they announce someone right now or say, give Craig his moment, announce someone next week, this is who's going to be with Jenna.

Like there'll be so much excitement and fanfare as opposed to just like everyone sort of losing interest.

And then it's like,

this person is the best.

And also if I was that person, and I feel like people come through the Today Show all the time, I'm surprised Jenna doesn't have a, or maybe it's not up to Jenna, but I feel like she would know who she'd like to do it with.

If she had a preference, like, she could definitely push it forward.

Um, I feel like she really likes Justin Sylvester, and I think the culture really likes Justin Sylvester.

I think he's a great, great choice.

And I'm sure they'll have like three or four people in rotation, and it'll become clear like who the favorite is based on, like, you know, social media and ratings.

But I, I, I hate this.

I can't lie.

I would love to see who is even an option, like, who will these these friends will be.

Because of course, like Justin Sylvester comes to mind for us because we know that he co-hosts a lot and like we love him.

But I wonder who are like the obvious names

in rotation.

Yeah, I'm looking forward to that.

Who will even be on Jenna and Friends?

Who are the friends?

Right.

And is it people that we know have already guest co-hosted?

Or are these people Jenna's putting forward for the job?

Like people in our life?

Right, maybe other hosts out there.

Yeah, because it's like Justin, who else?

I know Heather co-hosts.

Who else does like frequently?

Not just like that.

Even though we like know that because we follow them on Instagram.

Yeah, it's like in our circle.

Yeah.

So I'm sure other people if we followed other people on Instagram, let me go look.

What's their show called?

Hoda and Jenna.

Yeah.

I do like the name Jenna and Friends.

I just want to say.

I know, but I feel like it's like a bad...

Like, think about Kelly Rippa.

It's hard to see who's a...

hosting

who's a guest.

I think that it's a bad precedent.

Like when you think about Kelly Rippa,

when you don't immediately make a decision, like it's just bad.

And I feel like with the Regis and Kelly show or however it started, I forget, Regis and Kathy, they, every time somebody left, boom, there was a new person.

And, you know, we all got with it.

Like, it became Regis and Kathy, Regis and Kelly, Kelly and...

Ryan.

Ryan.

No, no, Kelly and Michael.

Like, every time they switched the names of the show, like, we all just kind of got on board and it became a part.

It was like a part of the vernacular.

We had an easy time.

We're like, yeah, Kelly and Ryan, Kelly and Mark, Mark, Kelly and Michael.

And I actually think, I know she's had her issues, but that's a really good example of how to transition someone out of a role quickly.

And just like, the public gets on board.

They just do.

But when you dilly-dally like this, like, it's silly.

Make a choice.

That's always what I'm saying.

Make a choice.

I don't like this.

They could also be testing people like behind the scenes, you know, they don't have to do it all in the public.

I think they knew Hoda was leaving for a little while.

And I think that anytime one of them was off, they were testing people.

Yeah.

I think they've been testing people for like a year.

Yeah, I think they think that this will drum up excitement, but I think it's going to be the opposite.

I think it will drum up exhaustion.

Agreed.

It's jeopardy.

But congratulations to Craig Melvin.

Congratulations.

A job a million girls would kill for.

It's so true.

And you know what?

Like, you love to see journalist roles going to journalists.

I think that's kind of rare these days.

It's usually an influencer.

It's so true.

Maybe it'll be an influencer with Jenna.

I would love that.

But probably someone a bit older.

I actually feel like if I thought long and hard about it, we could come up with some good names.

You know, like so much about chemistry.

If you even pulled from all of those talk shows that went away, like

Meredith Fiera, Bethany.

No, like the talk, the real.

The real, yeah, yeah.

There's a lot of swirlies who have good hosting daytime background.

Right?

Adrian Bylon, Lonnie Laurie.

And all those girls go.

Garceau.

Amanda Klutz.

Yeah, the Chu.

The chew?

So go over there.

Miss Daphne Oz.

Daphne Oz.

I like her.

She's dazzling.

She is dazzling.

She's a nice life.

I like following her on social media.

Yeah.

So are you ready for our next story?

Yeah.

Which is sort of the hot gossip of the day.

Oh.

Teddy Mellencamp allegedly cheated on her husband, Edwin, with her married horse trainer, and a heated confrontation ensued.

So we went from knowing absolutely nothing about this divorce to now I feel knowing too much.

Agreed.

And not in the way, like, I don't know why I just assumed like Edwin was the villain, not Teddy.

Like, right.

So, apparently, Teddy Mellencamp cheated on her husband with a married friend.

An insider with direct knowledge of the situation told Page Six that she allegedly stepped out on him several times with her long time, with her longtime pal, whose then wife was also a close friend.

So, this guy has been identified.

His name is Simon Schroeder, he's her horse trainer, and his wife, his name is Carly Postal.

That just will be Jermaine as we go forward.

So the two of them have two children.

And apparently when Teddy and Simon were in Florida together for an equestrian event while his wife was in California in labor with their second child, his wife thought it was suspicious that her husband was in Florida when she was giving birth.

When he returned to LA, the insider says that she allegedly discovered inappropriate text messages between him and Teddy, which led to a heated public confrontation.

Apparently, they confessed.

Teddy promised it would not happen again.

And the wife didn't tell Edwin when she found out because she was willing to give Simon another chance.

Oh, wow.

However, Daily Mail source said that the wife learned last month that the alleged sexual relationship not only continued, but also became emotional.

So she told Edwin.

Then...

Teddy filed for divorce so that Edwin did not have the chance to file and get her for adultery.

It has been alleged that the marriage ended between because Edwin cheated on Teddy, but it's actually the other way around, this Daily Mail source.

Justice for Edwin.

Not us all dragging his name through the mud, like with literally no proof.

But the timeline is so confusing to me because she filed for divorce on November 1st and listed the date of separation as October 20th, even though they were packing on the PDA at a charity event four days later.

Isn't that like lying to the government?

I have no idea.

Like falsifying documentation?

I'm literally like the scene in El Woods.

Unless it's like true, like maybe they were like splitting.

Maybe they had like one great last night together.

Yeah, I mean, I guess anything's possible.

Plausible giant ability.

They were just putting it off of at the cameras.

Yeah, or they were like, let's just give him a show.

The craziest part of this whole saga is the wife finding out and not telling Edwin.

Like, I guess at a situation like that, like, it's every man for himself.

Like, I'm trying to protect my family, my marriage.

She owes nobody anything.

Like, bitch, I'm just trying to get through this.

But I never thought about, like, when,

like, if a spouse finds out, like, do you tell the other spouse?

I guess it all depends on the relationships.

But I guess she didn't want to make the whole thing bigger than it was if she was going to give him another chance and she just sort of wanted wanted to go away.

So if then, what if Edwin found out, left Teddy, and Teddy becomes single and now she's hanging around your man's?

Right, right.

You're trying to make it work and you have a baby.

And I so didn't see this for Teddy.

I think like the Teddy that we got to know on the show, like she was very much like a pushover.

Like she wasn't making strong decisions.

But I also feel like she was very like much,

she acted as a moral character.

Yeah, yeah.

So this is really surprising, but it's also like so Beverly Hills, like not the horse trainer.

Horse trainer.

Yeah, and like is it Sassy's brother?

It's giving the politician

It's also I think made Teddy Mellencamp at least to me far more interesting I I don't know if interesting is a word I would have used to describe her up until this point And so to see that not that there's anything like admirable about having an affair, but it takes a set of balls and I never saw that for her like she didn't seem like a freewheeling kind of gal.

I guess, but also I know all she wanted was like privacy and not to speak on it.

And I think when we thought it was something else, that could be the case.

But now that this is all out there, like she's privacy revoked.

No, no, she's going to talk about it.

If she doesn't talk about it, it's an admission of guilt.

And it's just hard because she has a podcast.

Like she talked, if this were a housewife who just like, you know, does the show, well, the other women will bring it up, but like posts on Instagram, like, she's not even on the show anymore.

Right.

No, but like when you have a podcast and we're always hearing from you.

No, not only that and the concept of their show, they're like always digging in on other people.

So it's like you can't dish it and not take it.

Yeah, No, if she were on the show, it would come up.

But I'm just saying, like, the podcasting, I feel like that's what we were saying about Brianna Chicken Fry.

It's like

when you don't, when something is so out in the public about your personal life

that something like,

I don't know, I just feel like it's really hard to navigate if you don't address it at all.

It is.

And I think that's also like an important distinction whenever we're talking about like the difference between influencers and celebrities.

Like celebrities really are afforded the luxury of that privacy.

Like they don't have to speak.

Like you're not doing it.

You're not on press unless you're like in the middle of a press junket.

but like if you're not working like you can literally take six months of silence and like people will forget about it but influencers like your job is to constantly be making content staying relevant being on like the scene and so it makes it virtually impossible to like deal with things privately yeah but there's there's a try but there's just like

intrigue in you as there is in celebrities i would argue there's sometimes even more intrigue in like influencer drama or an influencer divorce than like a celebrity divorce because there's like this weird parasocial relationship between like followers and so you feel

like you're yeah

so you're you're getting you're getting even like more

intrigue and sort of, there's like a higher level of interest than like even a traditional celebrity.

And like you can't get away from it.

And for Teddy, there's a higher level of interest than if she was just a former housewife, like Camille Grammer cheated on her new husband.

Like that.

Nobody would care.

Right.

Yeah.

No, it's really crazy.

It's really crazy.

So we'll keep you posted.

But that was the plot twist of the century.

Yeah.

Speaking of rumored affairs, are you ready for this next one?

Our favorite story of the year?

What?

Hugh Jackman's ex-wife, Deborah Lee Furness, is subtly reacting to his alleged affair with Sutton Foster.

Okay, Debs, lay it on me.

Because you know I ride for Debs, but like, honestly, in this situation, she's taking a vaccine.

Yeah, no, but she's like spilling tea in her own way.

So

Hugh Jackman may not have been a free agent when he allegedly started his romance with Sutton Foster.

He was married to Deborah Lee Furness for 27 years.

The two announced they were divorcing.

Rumors have swirled over the past few months that he possibly stepped out of his marriage.

And now the Australian actress, that's Deborah Lee Furness, has seemingly reacted to the news of his relationship.

So Deb liked a post from her private Instagram account of a gossip blogger, Tasha Lustig, claiming that Jackman had blindsided Deb by sharing his relationship with Sutton.

Deb's friend, British media personality Amanda DeCandinet, also weighed in on the allegations, writing in a comment last month, you are on point with this one.

My beloved friend Deb is about to have her glow up any moment, F-Y-I.

That's kind of like

I completely agree.

That was like a beyond unnecessary comment for this girly to make.

I just feel like they're trying to get in there, but they're also just like grown women.

Yeah.

I don't think she realized what she meant by that.

I think this might be their first rodeo.

I think she meant like she's about to have a moment, you know, not like

she's ugly.

A makeover.

She's about to start glowing.

So this, I feel, might be a situation where we need to trust our faves.

Who's Ed in the situation?

I don't know.

I don't know.

Like, I really don't know.

I fear that I can see this being the reality, right?

They worked on a project very closely together.

They were both married.

And now a year later, they're both divorced and in a relationship.

So obviously.

It's entirely possible that they fell in love, never did anything wrong, went home, divorced their partners, and came together only at a time where it was acceptable to do so however the injured party could call that an affair because they that's not an affair if you develop feelings for someone and you're in a relationship and you go home and end that relationship like that's the right thing to do you can't stop yourself from having feelings but you can stop yourself from acting on those feelings yes but then think about really the timeline say you're like at first it's just you feel this way about someone but you're not going to leave your wife.

You don't know if they feel that way about you.

You, you kind of like need that confirmation and then you're getting into emotional affair territory.

It's really hard to do this in a clean way.

Okay, but I think there is-I wish I wouldn't like you back.

Okay, that's a really good point.

But I do feel like there is a world in which, like,

you can find out that the other person likes you, and you both go home and get divorced.

Like, and that's not an affair.

But don't you kind of have to like

see that through a little bit just to confirm if it's more than what you have at home.

Yeah, I mean, it's very reckless to not, but I just, I think it's 27 years.

Yeah, yeah,

yeah, no.

I mean, I'm trying to.

I know, I like, I think they probably went about it in the best, most respectful way possible.

And I can even hold space for maybe that it wasn't even, didn't even get physical until all was said and done.

But the injured party can still say that's an affair.

Yeah, yeah,

and also, I think that, you know, you can maintain that nothing happened between this person, but your wife is not going to believe you.

You're leaving me over this person.

You obviously fucked her.

Like, right.

So

there's his story, her story, and the truth, right?

There's history and there's there's her story.

Well,

you just said a mouthful there, sister.

What am I choosing to believe?

I'm choosing to believe that everybody's truth is their own.

I agree.

And I'm choosing to believe that, of course, this wasn't the ideal situation.

I believe that Sutton and Hugh went about it in the best way that they could have while also betraying the people that they loved.

Yeah, and I think that we have to hold space for like every generation.

There's sort of like a once-in-a-love

once-in-a-lifetime kind of love.

And sometimes you have to hurt people for that.

And I fear that Hugh and Sutton might just be that once-in-a-lifetime kind of love.

And they just like got in the way.

And it's unfortunate.

But think about it like, okay, the notebook, right?

Allie and Noah, once-in-a-lifetime kind of love.

She was out here cheating on James Marsden.

Yeah, and he was a great guy too.

Yeah, he wasn't perfect, but he loved her and he wanted to marry her.

And like, even if he wasn't, like, infidelity, she cheated on him.

But we all ship because we know what was at stake and that was allie and noah and like they were otp think of sutton and hugh i challenge you to think of sutton and hugh as more of an allie and a noah and you'll see it very clearly that's just like and people don't like this one camilla and charles

it's exactly like camilla and charles yeah oh just because it's not ryan gosling Yeah, you guys are singing a different tune.

And the thing is, if he wasn't Prince Charles at the time, he would have left his wife way sooner, but he was like legally barred from doing so.

He was begging his grandfather to marry her to begin with.

And that's

what he should have been with Camilla from the beginning and what they said no to her because she wasn't a virgin and how and yeah, by the way, Jackie is delivering absolute facts right now.

It's Camilla and Charles.

So I feel like two lists are brewing here.

And now I'm officially starting the list of couples we don't care about separately, but together we love because now we have two instances this week.

Sutton and Hugh.

Hugh Jackman and Sutton Foster, even though I did love Hugh Jackman before.

And Olivia Munn and John Mulani.

Now we love them separately, but we came here.

Yeah.

We come to this place for magic.

Yeah.

And then also, if you did want to do a list of like this situation of the Camilla Charles, like

not okay, but it's understandable.

Where situations where infidelity was understandable.

Here, I'm calling it true love trumping infidelity.

Allie and Noah.

Because they're the blueprint.

Yes.

And if you liked the notebook, then you like this.

It's true.

Allie, Noah, Sutton, and Hugh.

Camilla and Charles.

Camilla and Charles.

Feel free to sound off in the comments.

Any other situations where cheating just felt like it had to be done?

I feel more organized getting this out down on paper.

All week, I've been like a mess trying to remember my references.

Yeah, well, if you could just get that pad and paper,

pad and pen, we would be all squared away.

That pad and pen.

Okay.

Yeah, no, that pad and pen.

Pad and pen, yeah.

I keep saying pad and paper in a moment.

Yeah, and then I said it.

How am I going to write?

Now we both look stupid.

How am I going to write when I just have two pieces of paper?

That's funny.

So that's the latest with Deb.

Furness.

Deborah Lee Furness.

And as Hugh would call her, he used to call her affectionately.

My Deb.

My Deb.

Now he's not your Deb.

My sup.

Doesn't hit the same.

Are you ready for our next story?

I think a better question is, are you ready for our next story?

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Sidney Sweeney is calling out Hollywood's industry, calling out Hollywood industry's quote, women empowering other women's stance.

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So Sidney Sweeney is calling out some people in Hollywood who tear another woman down privately while publicly proclaiming they are empowering women.

In a new interview with Vanity Fair, she cited the industry's attitude of quote women empowering other women as untrue.

This is what she said, quote, it's very disheartening to see women tear other women down, especially when women who are successful in other avenues of their industry see younger talent working really hard, hoping to achieve whatever dreams that they may have, and then trying to bash and discredit any work that they've done.

She said, this entire industry, all people, is saying, all people say is women empowering other women.

women.

None of it's happening.

All of it is fake and affront for all the other shit that they say behind everyone's back.

She noted that there are so many studies and different opinions on the reasoning behind it and said that it's a generation problem to believe only one woman can be at the top.

So it feels like she is citing a specific instance.

Like something obviously happened to her and she's making like sweeping generalizations about the industry.

Although I do see this, like I feel like we had that conversation when it came to Olivia Wilde, right?

When that video, Shaya, Shaya, Shaya, like her begging Shia LaBouffe to be in her film even though like female castmates had expressed concern about working with him because he's like crazy um and she didn't give a shit like but she's one of the women who walks around wearing a herstery t-shirt women empowering women the female whatever so I can definitely see I know I agree 100% that there are people in the industry who are like their platforms is all about like telling women's stories and they're the nastiest bitches you've ever met in your entire fucking life yeah I don't know if that's the whole industry and I think that Sidney Sweeney is like speaking from experience something obviously happened to her I don't know who it is I don't know who it is did anyone come to mind for you of who it could be?

I wonder.

And I have no proof.

And I think I

get probably the loveliest person who books so many female jobs.

Like, I don't know why this person just came to mind because I love her.

Let's say it on the count of three.

Three, two, one.

Reese Witherspoon.

Reese Witherspoon.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You want to know why it came to mind?

Because it feels like Sidney Sweeney is putting together a career that's really similar to Reese Witherspoon in the sense that so much more than just acting.

Reese Witherspoon has been producing.

She's been like optioning.

I mean, Sidney Sweeney has been producing, optioning books, like building something beyond her own acting, just like getting cast in movies.

And yeah, I also got a Reese Witherspoon vibe and I have no proof.

I have no proof.

That's funny that you got the same vibe, though.

But also, like, here's a quote earlier this year that a producer said about Sidney Sweeney, which was like not nice.

And so I guess this is like the vibe of what people have to say about her.

She said, there's an actress, the producer's name is Carol Baum.

I don't know who that is.

She said, there's an actress who everybody loves now, Sidney Sweeney.

I don't get Sidney Sweeney.

I was watching on the plane Sidney Sweeney's movie, Anyone But You, because I I wanted to watch it.

I wanted to know who she is and why everybody's talking about her.

I watched this unwatchable movie.

Sorry to people who love this romantic comedy where they hate each other.

She said, I said to my class, she teaches at USC, explain this girl to me.

She's not pretty.

She can't act.

Why is she so hot?

Nobody had an answer, but then the question was asked: well, if you could get your movie made because she was in it, would you do it?

That's a very hard question to answer because we all want to get the movie made.

And who walks away from a green light?

Nobody I know.

Your job is to get the movie made.

Okay, I have to say, I agree with Carol that that movie was unwatchable, but everything else she said was so beyond unnecessary, like coming for her looks.

And it's like, well, if we're going to criticize all different parts of the industry, like, why are you starting with Sidney Sweeney?

Like, you're not a woman who supports that.

There's so there are things wrong with the industry.

And I'm sorry, Sidney Sweeney's not one of those things.

No, and Sidney Sweeney's very pretty.

Yeah, like, please, what do you look like, Carol?

Like, let's start there.

But there's a lot.

I actually was some, who was it?

Matt Damon?

Is he the one Goodwill Hunting?

Yeah.

Yeah.

He was doing an interview.

I don't know when it was, but he was talking about why the movies that he used to make, like Goodwill Hunting, why movies like that don't really get made anymore, and why it's all like big budget Marvel superhero movies.

And he said, like, back in the day, like, your movie would come out in theaters and it would do however it did.

And then later, when it came out on DVD, like it was like a second wave.

You had like two opportunities to make a lot of money.

But now that movies just go to the streamers, they have to crush it at the box office.

That's where they're going to make all their money.

And they're only going with sure things.

And that is like the superhero movies, the remakes, the big budget things.

So movies that are a good idea that need some time and love and built intellectual following don't get made.

And that's why the movie.

And so like that to me is like something you could start chewing on about the movie industry before you start saying it's Cindy Sweeney ruined the movie industry.

Yeah, and I think like Cindy Sweeney probably gets a lot of flack and like judgment immediately because of her looks, right?

She's like this very beautiful girl.

She embraces her sexuality.

Like, like, and

a huge part of like what catapulted her was like her boobs.

Like that was like a thing.

And so I'm sure she gets like initial shock and judgment from that.

But I think if you look at her career, like even if you don't know everything about her, like she's clearly proved herself, she's a very talented actress.

She does do so many things beyond just acting.

She produces.

I think she's like starting a production company.

So it is this woman who is supposed to be a professor, like just sort of whittling it down to her looks.

Like that's insulting.

And I don't know if in this article she's referencing this professor feels like a lot of people.

I don't think that she is, by the way,

because it feels like she's talking about someone that we do know.

And she's also talking about the entire industry.

It's a blanket statement.

I feel like people don't often make statements like that.

Like

everyone who says women, all the, and she's not even saying Hollywood men and women don't support.

She's saying the women don't support the women.

So I just have to think of like the women who say they support the women the most.

And then I'm like, she's saying they don't.

And like tell women's stories.

Right.

Like, who's always talking like that?

It's a pretty, I mean, she's used the word women like a lot in the quote, so it was like kind of hard to read.

And yeah, it was painful to hear.

But it is like a pretty big call out.

It is.

And this is somebody who's successful and she's in the industry.

I think a lot of people like talk about the industry from the outskirts of it.

We're like, yeah, okay, whatever.

But Sidney Sweeney's firmly planted at the center of things.

She's on one of the biggest shows.

Her movie was huge.

She is speaking from experience.

And I can't.

She gets in those rooms.

I could see women who purport to support other women support some women, but not women like

me.

I could see how she's getting shut out for being Sid.

Yeah,

I agree.

And

I know, like, I have no reason to believe this, but it's 100% Rhys Witherspoon.

No, I'm sorry.

She's describing Reese Witherspoon.

Someone who is right, someone who gives jobs and is she is.

Sorry.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And it's all, but, yeah, yeah.

And someone who did it accomplished everything she wants to accomplish.

They even look alike.

They look alike.

And that's the thing.

It's like, yeah, you can conveniently support women.

Because you think about the women like Rhys Witherspoon is always like casting and championing.

Nicole Kidman, Laura Dern, women who don't really infringe on her

place in Hollywood, right?

They can all coexist without any sort of competition.

They're all so different, even though they look exactly the same.

But Sidney Sweeney is like, appears to be on her way to building something

similar.

Yeah.

So

who do you think it's about?

Sound off in the comments.

Sound off in the comments.

Our fifth and final story I'm kind of obsessed with.

It's one of my favorite tropes.

A celebrity dating a reality star.

Oh my God.

I love who.

It's so fucking random.

So fucking random.

Remember Maude's son?

He dated Avril Levine.

I know.

And Bella Thorne.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And my girl from

the DBF show.

He's technically like a singer with fans, allegedly.

The only time I have ever heard his name is in regards to Tana Mojo, Bella Thorne, Avra Levine.

He dates like, yeah.

Yeah.

Well, he was spotted packing on the PDA with Love is Blind star Brittany Wisniewski, who is Brittany from Leo and Brittany from this most recent season of Love is Blind.

Yeah.

They got propriot seed outside TMZ, like holding hands, leaving a restaurant.

So I think from this article says that they first connected on November 3rd at his concert.

So that's like not even two weeks ago.

While performing on stage, he spotted the group in the crowd.

She was with some friends and gave them a special shout out, which he documented on TikTok, saying respectfully, are both of you on the show Love is Blind?

Oh my God, that's so funny.

He said, my name is Maude.

And then

in the clip, she could be seen blowing him a kiss before the video cut off.

I guess maybe she was going as his...

Oh, maybe they had already met.

That's possible.

Now a video taken by TMZ shows them getting handsy while dancing to party in the USA.

Now, my initial thought when I saw this was like,

yikes.

It's like not a good look for Brittany.

Why?

Because I think that like when you go on these shows, like you are constantly trying to beat the allegations that you went on for fame.

Even though like, and maybe some people go on to fall in love, but everybody's going on a little bit for the fame to quit their jobs and make influencer money.

And I think that that was an allegation that was thrown around a lot about her, like just being kind of.

Like having her priorities a little materialistic, like even when it came to all the questions about Leo and his money and his watch.

And so for her to end up with like a D-list celebrity like on TMZ, like I didn't think it was a good luck.

To be honest, I actually think this gives her some credit because in the show, like she says, I dated rock stars.

Maybe like he's an ex of hers.

Because when she was saying that on the show, it's like, okay, sure.

But now it's like,

let's get you back to bed.

Maybe she has dated rock stars.

She continues to, he is a rock star technically.

Like maybe it's not Harry Styles.

But like she said that she could really be with someone who has a lot of money.

Like she's been with that before.

That's actually not what she was looking for.

It doesn't help that she then went back to that sort of lifestyle, but I think it gives her some credit.

If somebody said to me, Claudia, we'll give you $11 billion

tax-free.

All you have to do is name one Mod Sun song.

I wouldn't be able to do it.

I couldn't take the money.

I could not.

I could guess.

I couldn't even guess.

Why don't you just like guess?

Whoa, whoa, Mod Sun.

Yeah.

Like, okay, I'm going to go to his discography, but before I do, I'm going to guess, like, what he could have even had a song called, like.

hold on, like, Flames of Love.

Okay, okay, that's kind of good.

Okay, wait, let me, yeah, let me, wait, wait, wait.

What's like a

title of a song that, like, a lot of people have the same title?

Do you know what I mean?

Right, right, right.

Like, something with, oh, I already did love to do different words than me to increase our chances.

Get you back.

Okay.

Yeah, that's my Claudia.

He has a song called Flames with Avril Levine.

And I swear I've never seen

I believe you.

Oh my god.

So do I get like five and a half million?

I got half of it.

Oh, he has I'd rather overdose.

Oh, this would have been a good guess.

Karma

Fuck.

Because I was thinking Taylor Swift's songs.

Me too.

I was like, God of the woods.

He has a song called Sunshine.

That would also have been a really good guess.

These are nothing words we should.

I'm not going to get you back.

In case some.

Wait, I'll go to all his.

He has a song called I Told You.

Karma, Bones, Flames.

Oh, he does one word.

Okay, that's good to know.

Oh, so I'm out.

Better Man.

Is he obsessed with telecoms?

Prayer, 20 numb, Smith, roller coaster, annoying, porn star, internet killed the rock star.

Okay, so

honestly, I feel like we did pretty good.

Like, I know we didn't make $11 billion.

By the way, we're going home empty-handed.

But we didn't embarrass ourselves.

I just don't understand how,

and this is just honestly the gender imbalance.

If there was a successful woman who was on the same level looks-wise as this person,

no way would they be pulling women

of equal looks to Tana Mongeau, Brittany, Avril Levine.

I don't like his vibe, but let me get a look at his face.

I actually feel like maybe he has a handsome face, like behind all that hair and drum kits oh my god like mod son like

uh

okay i just feel like the pictures of him like are good pictures no i'm sorry i stand by what i said

i think that if he did something else like he he's making himself ugly

he's got nice features

it's so easy for men though It's so true.

You know?

What does he have?

Like a magic penis?

He's not even famous.

He was a rock star.

In what world is he a rock star?

He's like a little, like, like, he's in the same elk of Machine Gun Kelly.

They collab.

So it's like, if you're into.

He's like a, he's a

way less famous Machine Gun Kelly.

He's not a rock star.

But not everyone can have punk.

Yeah, a punk star.

Ask Ben what he thinks of him.

I bet you that's a great question because I feel like Ben doesn't even know him.

Hold on.

Well, then he's not a real punk lover.

Do you know any songs by Mod Sun?

Say, do you know Mod Sun?

Say, do you know Mattan?

Do you know who Mod Sun is?

Let's see.

I'm so curious.

He's on a flight, so he either will answer in two seconds or not at all.

He either got Wi-Fi or he didn't.

Yeah.

But Ben always gets Wi-Fi.

Do you always get Wi-Fi?

Every single time.

I actually pay for that monthly thing.

Like Go-Go?

Go-Go, yeah, which when I was on tour, like it was really economical because a flight is like $30 for Wi-Fi.

Then it's $50 a month.

I really need to stop paying for it.

I don't travel.

Yeah.

He's not answering.

I don't always pay for the Wi-Fi.

Oh, she's kind of radical.

Sometimes I, what do those men call it?

I raw dog.

You raw dog a flight, yeah.

Sometimes, but sometimes they do free texting, and I'll go for that, or I'll buy like a 30-minute pass just to catch up.

But I like unplugging a bit.

You're literally like living on a prairie.

Living on a prairie.

He didn't answer.

Okay, so that's a cliffhanger for tomorrow's episode.

Halfway there.

Whoa.

Living on a prairie.

Living on a prairie.

You'll have to tune into tomorrow's episode to see if Ben Soffer knows who Maud's son is.

And likes him.

And if he does, we should take this joker anyway.

Yeah.

He should pretend like he's coming on the toe.

Oh my God.

He responded.

He used to date Bella Throne.

But what about his music?

I think he's some random singer.

I know of him, but don't know him.

Why?

Do you know any of his music?

But I think that's a no.

That's a no.

No, that gave us a Bella Throne.

Bella Throne.

I'm cackling.

What's left to say?

What can I say except Bella Throne?

Nothing.

You can't say anything except that.

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