Summer Glass House: Friday, June 14th, 2024

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  1. Bebe Rexha Calls G-Eazy an 'Ungrateful Loser' After Being Asked to Shoot Social Content with Him (PEOPLE) (21:45)
  2. Taylor Swift stays up late to celebrate Travis Kelce, Kansas City Chiefs ring ceremony (Page Six) (27:38)
  3. Gisele Bunchen and Joaquim Valente split over 'stress' from Tom Brady roast (Page Six) (36:29)
  4. Grace Van Patten to Play Amanda Knox is Hulu Limited Series Following Margaret Qualley's Exit (Variety) (40:57)
  5. Summer House Recap (51:29)


  • Queenie and Weenie of The Week (1:11:07)


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Good morning, Millennials.

Welcome back to the toast and happy Friday, gorgeous girls.

Happy Friday to all the gorgeous girls out there being gorgeous, being girly, and celebracioning the fact that it's Friday.

Yeah, not a big deal.

We're so chill about it.

Like, it's not a big deal.

Congratulations on graduating the 24th week of the year.

What an amazing accomplishment for everyone.

I never.

It's so important to celebrate the small wins.

I never imagined imagined that I, just a little girl, you know, from New York City, would be graduating the 24th week of the year.

And that's why it's so important to dream big.

The 24th week of 2024.

It's really poignant that we mark this milestone.

Hanobra's, huh?

How you doing?

La.

I'm doing so good.

So excited about, you know, the week ahead, well, the weekend ahead.

So much to be grateful for.

And today's one of those days where I'm really feeling grateful for my health because I had a bit of a health scare last night.

Okay.

You know, Ben and I hit the town last night, which I don't often do.

We hit the town.

We had a couple events to attend.

We had dinner, you know, being out and about,

fashionistas, it girls, you know, things of that nature.

And we got home.

We went to sleep.

I would say I was asleep for maybe 20, 30 minutes before I woke up writhing in pain.

Now, I have heard people say, like, there are, you know, stomach pains that are so bad, you go to the hospital and it ends up just being gas.

And I've known that that's a thing.

And I think as it was happening to me, like, I knew that it was a pain.

But that was an option.

That was an option, but it was so bad.

And I'm still like kind of, I'm having residuals right now, but it was so bad that I'm like, no, this is worse than what people talk about.

Like, I must be having kidney stones.

Like, I didn't, and especially, like, it's not where you would expect gas pains to be.

Like, to me, they felt like period cramps, but like on crack, oh my God, I woke Ben up.

I'm like screaming, crying, throwing up, like so much pain.

And Ben was like, let's go to the hospital.

And I'm like, I'm not going to be a cliche.

Like, I'm not going to be one of these people.

I'm sorry.

And he's like, okay, take a Tom and take Gas X, just in case it's gas.

And I felt like him saying it was gas was like really minimizing my pain and belittling my feelings.

But I'm like, okay, I'll entertain this clown and take the gas X.

And I will say within like 10 minutes, like I knew it was gas because he was getting significantly better enough to a place where I could go to sleep.

But I was shivering.

Like I felt like I had a fever.

It was so crazy.

It was the worst experience of my fucking life.

I couldn't unfurl myself from the fetal position.

Like the fetal position was the only thing keeping me alive.

Do you have heating pads?

Okay.

Of course, yesterday my heating pad blows out.

And these like cheap, I get these like cheap ones from Amazon.

They're totally made in China, but they're huge.

Like they're probably four times the size of a regular heating pad.

And I like them.

And something I know is that I have to replace them every couple of months.

And I've made peace with that.

Mine blows out yesterday.

I didn't immediately buy a new one because I knew I had another one somewhere in the house.

We found it last night.

The second one, the second in command,

it's also blown out.

It's working for like 10 minutes at a time.

So at least I got that.

And I made Ben keep getting up and plugging it back in.

Once you like take it out, plug it back in, like they're janky as fuck, but I know how to work.

You need like one standard heating pad, like for medical, like the way you have a first aid kit in your house.

Like you need a heating pad for issues of the tummy and back.

It seriously saved my life.

That like, and I have long been an advocate for gas X.

I think when people talk about over-the-counter drugs like you know advil

tylenol people are always going on about you know the top drugs and gas x never gets its shine i feel like it's constantly being overshadowed by like peptobismol or tums gas x is in its own league and i'm that's because they don't do the advertising like peptobismo has their jingle it's true i've never even seen a commercial gas x is resting on its laurels of like we don't need to prove to you why we're so good and i agree with them like seriously gas x is a life-changing medicine and I find it difficult to find, especially, I think they're trying to compete with Tums.

They came out with like their own chewables.

And a lot of times when you're going to look at the grocery store or the pharmacy, they'll be selling only the chewables.

I don't fuck with the chewables.

They're capsules.

Two capsules can save lives.

It happened to me last night.

I am kind of tired.

I'm growing tired of nobody talking about and giving credence to Gas X.

It is seriously a miracle drug.

That is so wonderful.

We read a book for the Redheads, Lady Tan Circle of Women.

It's about Eastern medicine.

Oh.

And it wasn't even the book that got me thinking about it.

It was the Redheads discussion because all the girls were talking about what it made them think about like Eastern medicine.

I'm like, oh, I really didn't think that much while I was reading it.

But now the discussion among the swirlies, riveting discussions, really making me think more of like...

Medicine is great.

Like, I mean, it's so great to alleviate your symptoms.

I actually can have this conversation with you because I live with Ben Soffer and I have this conversation every weekend.

Okay, no, I don't know if you know what I'm going to say next.

Like, thank you.

Like, thank you for the the medicine.

My symptoms are alleviated.

So now, like, we need to be talking about, like, what happened.

Like, what is the issue?

That's not what I thought you were going to say.

These are like band-aids, but, like, what is the root issue?

Like, why did your stomach hurt?

I thought what you were going to say, which Ben talks about all the time, is like, we as human beings are prone naturally to headaches or whatever.

And Advil, yes, is amazing.

But he, like, firmly believes like in nature, and he's really into Eastern medicine.

Like, there is a solvent and you know what I mean?

Like, there is a solution.

There is a positive and a negative that can definitely be found in nature.

Like Ben believes like there is a leaf out there that was literally like put on this earth by God to alleviate headaches.

Like there is something in nature to counteract every human symptom.

That's what he believes.

I agree for the natural symptoms, but then I think there are also man-made symptoms.

I thought that's what you were going to say, he says, where it's like, I have this headache and so big pharma is going to cure it, but pig, big food create.

Yeah, yeah, no.

Ben's not down that conspiracy theory yet either, but I.

I don't know.

I saw a clip of Good Guys and Vinny, and I think they're close.

I agree, by the way, with what you're saying.

Oh man, I am noticing how often I say, by the way, like it's actually kind of bad.

It's okay, by the way.

I wish I knew how to undo it, but I don't.

So there are a lot of different conversations here.

And I do feel like sometimes like a stomachache, your stomachache was probably man-made.

Yeah.

Whatever you ate.

Some crap.

So the cure has to be man-made as well.

But I do feel like I get migraines, of course.

And sometimes I get a headache if I didn't drink enough water that day.

Like I've created this

torture for myself.

But also I get hormonal migraines.

A lot of women do.

And that, that has nothing, I could be perfect like on my scorecard of being healthy and I'll still get a hormonal migraine.

Like what is the remedy in nature for that?

Like I want to know what Lady Tan would have prescribed me for that.

Yeah, I definitely see you, you know, and this journey that you're on, you definitely getting to a place where you don't take medicine anymore.

I feel like you don't even really take medicine that much.

I actually feel like I have my things that I really rely on.

Like I rely on my migraine medication, Rhizotriptan.

Like I'm not interested.

No, I mean more.

I mean more like over-the-counter.

Like

Advil.

I live in a big over-the-counter house.

Like we rely heavily on Tums, on Advil, on GasX, on Peptobismo.

Like we always have those things fully stocked.

And like we're taking them out on a weekly basis.

I feel like you don't really fuck with those types of medications.

I don't because I don't think they work when I need them to work.

Like when I have a headache, Advil is no match for my headache.

Oh my God.

Advil, seriously, it's hard for like which one I love more.

I still have my big, I have my prescription Advils that I got prescribed after I gave birth that are just

a thing.

Actually, yeah, they're because they're stronger.

They're my in-between between like an Advil and my migraine medication.

All is that to say, like, I understand the impact of Big Pharma.

Like, I understand the concern.

I saw,

what was that show called?

Dope sick?

Dope sick.

Like, I understand they're evil.

I'm holding space for two truths.

Like, they are evil, but they're products, like, I love and they make my life amazing.

I think there are degrees of the truth.

It's not even two.

It's not just binary.

So it's fluid.

Gas X saved my life.

Last night, a Gas X saved my life.

And I also feel like Tums shouldn't go in that category because they're made of chalk, which can be found in nature.

Tums is an amazing pedal.

It's a natural remedy.

Tums is amazing.

Also, sometimes when you, I used to get really bad gas stoning pain, so that's why I know what you're talking about.

And I was one of those people who went to the hospital once.

Two Gas X and a chewable Peptobismal.

You got to top it off.

I did.

I topped it off with a tum though.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

You got that.

I just chalky flavor.

I really, I was throwing everything at it, you know?

Yeah.

And then, of course, you know, if you really want to attack the root issues, like it starts with gut health.

And you know what's great for gut health?

Sourdough.

Very true.

You didn't have those issues when you were eating good at my house.

No.

How's the butter dish?

Did you use it yesterday?

I haven't used it yet because I don't know if I was asleep in a dream it came to me or what, but I was like, maybe I should make my own butter for this dish.

That would be exciting.

Oh, this is why.

No, no, let me tell you why.

Because the butter that I use at home, and I am so grateful for your gesture, but I use breakstones.

How do you put that in a butter dish?

You can't put breakstones in a corner.

It comes in a tub.

So I don't use that slab of butter.

You don't?

That's like the best butter.

Only for cooking.

Oh, and literally when I was at your house, that's the butter I used.

Because it was out because I was cooking bread.

Well, you need to get on like nice buttersticks.

But yes, making your own butter and you can like also form it into whatever shape you want is actually pretty easy.

I see people doing it on TikTok.

If you have a KitchenAid stand mixer, like you don't have to do anything.

Right.

Because Lauren Elizabeth did it.

That made me realize that I can do hard things too.

No, and you know, making butter,

while you make butter, you also make your own heavy cream because like you have to separate the liquid from the solids.

The solid is the butter and the liquid is literally milk.

You can make your own milk too.

Wow.

But it wasn't, wasn't it originally milk?

Oh, yeah, wait, no, wait, you put heavy whipping cream.

How do you, I,

oh, do you put heavy whipping cream?

So not just like whole milk?

No, no, no, no.

You need like a very specific, I think it's heavy whipping cream.

You whip it, the solids become butter, and then the liquid becomes milk.

Okay, that makes sense.

You should do that, by the way.

It's also like I've seen people do it on TikTok, and it's definitely something I can do.

There's one in the middle of the day.

It looks extremely easy.

It looks like a thing that looks hard, but is actually much easier than it looks.

It's not like the old days of churn.

No, no, thanks to the kitchen aid for a bit.

You just need a cheesecloth.

Do you own cheesecloths yet?

I feel like that's also something in your journey.

No, that's not, that's the next step on my journey.

Yeah.

So I'm doing okay.

I'm feeling grateful for my health today.

I'm just waiting for like a big fart to come.

That's the thing about, I also told Ben, I'm like, I felt all this relief, but I didn't fart.

Like I just went to sleep.

You want to know something funny about farts?

Yes.

It also has to do with my favorite thing, Tesla.

My Tesla has like, they have these funny apps because you know Elon's a jokester.

So it has this app I didn't even know about until Zach pulled it up.

It's a whoopee cushion thing where you can move the whoopee cushion around.

It has the four seats of the car and you put the whoopee cushion and press it and it makes it sound like that person in that seat like ripped ass.

Oh, that's funny.

I knew that they had like a fart sound effect.

You can make it like your horn.

Oh, your horn could sound like a fart.

But I didn't know that you actually could be pulling.

Oh my God.

Speak up.

And then I also learned from Elon's memoirs of an Elon.

It's actually not his memoirs.

It's third person,

the third person who tried to ruin the book.

But there's a voice command in the Tesla.

If you say open butthole, your trunk opens.

Oh, that's funny.

Wait, I'm so glad you brought up pranks.

I've been wanting to tell a story here.

I literally felt like a grandma like a couple of days ago.

I was the victim of a prank call by like these teenagers.

And

honestly, I like wanted to indulge them.

It was so obvious that it was a prank, but they had like a good angle.

I feel like when we were kids, but we always pretended to be like pizza guy or whatever.

They pretended to be the exterminator, which felt personal, like for sure.

I don't know if these people were calling me like as toasters or whatever.

And it was so lame.

Like they obviously don't know Star 67.

Like their full phone number came up.

And, you know, I, Apple has this thing now.

If somebody calls you and you don't have their number, you literally get their name.

I'm like, hi, Ronnie.

And when I said her name, like, she did freak out.

But the first couple of seconds, it was like these, like, it was like three little girls.

And they kept like switching the phone.

Like, I, it was so, it was so poorly executed.

I love that for now.

It was so poorly executed, but I'm glad that, like, that's what kids are still doing because that is harmless fun, as long as you're not, like, bullying someone from school on the phone.

Like, it was really sweet and endearing.

And I gave it to them for the first couple of minutes.

Like, I wanted them to, like, this was a canon event for them.

This was, they are going to remember this for the rest of their lives.

Yeah.

And that was so nice of you to give that to them.

And it also speaks to the fact that they probably don't have smartphones.

They just have flip phones, cell phones, which is like what a lot of parents do for kids when they want their kid to have a phone, but not a smartphone because then, you know, it's the rabbit hole.

Yeah.

So, Ronnie from Florida, like, I love you.

I hope that you and your friends like had a nice giggle.

And I'm so glad I could have been like a part of that extremely important adolescent moment for you.

I like loved it, but I also felt like such a grandma.

It was like, I'm laying home alone, like in bed, and these girls are like all hanging out.

I'm like kind of like the loser in their high school, you know?

Yeah.

No, you're not in the high school.

Like, you know, I'm a fully grown woman.

Yeah, no, like you're the, like,

you're the adult in the room.

Yes, I am.

How frightening is that?

Yeah.

So it's just like a little bit about me.

Gas, prank calls, things of that nature.

Things of that elk.

Well, that's really wonderful.

We are so busy today.

So busy.

I'm very excited.

We have a lot to do, all very exciting things to do.

I watched Summerhouse this morning.

I am enraged.

I'm actually.

Claudia, thank you.

I'm enraged.

I took notes and I'm also glad that I watched it this morning because, you know, sometimes you watch something and you can feel really heated about it, but by the next day, like, you've moved on with your life.

I have, I stayed there, just collecting around my pinned up pair.

I'm still there.

I'm right where you left me.

I'm fucking furious.

I'm fucking furious.

It was infuriating.

I don't think I've felt that

angry at a reunion since Monique.

Yeah.

Real House of the Potomac since they did Monique so goddamn dirty.

The whole cast and Andy.

The whole cast and Andy, but specifically Amanda and Kyle.

And obviously, like, I hate Kyle and I'm clearly biased in that, but I actually really like Amanda.

Like, I've been able to separate church and state.

Like, I think she's just fabulous.

She was so unfabulous last night.

And I mean, talk about living in a glass house and throwing stones.

Like, we're criticizing someone's relationship.

Respectfully, Amanda, like you should sit this one out.

Right.

Also, I understand Kyle, even though he was infuriating me, like, and shut up.

Chirping chicken.

I understand him backing up Carl.

Technically, it's the same thing Paige was doing for Sierra.

It was just like not as pleasant to watch, you know?

But like, technically, it's the same thing.

A friend speaking on behalf of a friend who's hurting.

Yeah, I just, I felt like it was different because Sierra was like on the verge of tears the whole time.

And to me, Sierra's like not a liar and Paige is not a liar.

Like they're, they're trusted sources.

So I know if Paige is saying something, that's exactly how it happened.

Like because she heard it from Sierra.

So on its face, it's just like a friend speaking for the friend, the injured party.

Like I shouldn't have issue with it.

So I'm going to allow Carl, Kyle, Carl, Kyle, to be like so fucking annoying, whatever.

Amanda, like so unacceptable, like unacceptable, so far removed from the situation, like please stop chirping in.

Also, like, God forbid, and I hate this term because,

but, like,

where, like, where's the girls' girls?

Like,

I know Lindsay's Lindsay's not one herself, but being a girls' girl, as they say, like, it's not conditional.

Just because she's not one doesn't mean that, like, you then turn, don't turn into one either.

Like, I don't know why everybody had to pile on, especially when, like, the pile on between Carl, Kyle, and Andy was enough.

Was was good enough.

So, like, the fact that she has it coming from literally all sides was really, really infuriating, except for Gabby, my queen.

Oh, Gabby, my queen.

Gabby, my queen.

I also feel like last night's episode and the reunion in general is really proof.

Like, cause I don't think the cast really needs to be shaken up that much, but there's a lot of people there doing like nothing.

And I don't think Danielle said, she was asked one question.

In the second episode.

Yeah.

And in the first, she didn't really say much either, except for the, actually, no, I take that back.

She had the whole drama with, with, that made her look so bad with selling the story to Elite Daly or whatever.

Yeah, so I think.

As far as people who could go, she would be one of them.

But I think she's a good person to have in the house from a production standpoint because you just never know what she's going to say or do.

And things pop off when she's around.

So like, I think the cast will stay exactly as it is.

Yeah, I just, I could see them being like, we don't have a need for Gabby because she really, like, she didn't, she popped off at the reunion, but in the season, like, but I really need her to stay.

I think, like, there's a lot of potential there.

And I, like, it really wouldn't be fair if there's nobody on Lindsay's side.

Yes, for, and I feel like Lindsay wouldn't go into a house where she doesn't have one friend.

They definitely want Lindsay to come back.

Yeah.

I think that they're a packaged deal.

I have so much to say.

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Our first story, a little feud news.

Feed news.

Not food news.

Few

news.

BB Rexa calls G Easy an ungrateful loser after being asked to shoot social content with him.

So this story is surprising, but BB Rexa posted to her Instagram story a screenshot of text messages of, it seems like someone on her team asking if she has any interest in shooting social content with G-Eazy when in New York, Re, Me, Myself, and I, which is a song that they did together years ago.

And I think it must be having like an anniversary or something.

So they wanted to like make some social stuff.

Right.

So she took a screenshot, posted to her story at GZ, G-Easy, you have my number.

Why don't you text me and ask me yourself, you stuck up, ungrateful loser?

You're lucky people are liking you again because I could go in on all the shitty things you've done and how you treated me after giving you your only real hit.

By the way, the answer is no.

Hope you good.

Then she deleted it and tweeted

and then tweeted this.

Someone from my team had me take down my Instagram story.

I decided to remove it because it felt very negative and toxic.

Sometimes trauma can lead us to react that way, and that period of my life was traumatizing.

I am writing this because I regret taking it down and I want to

say that I still stand by what I said.

So I feel like this is

not the first time Bibi Ricksa's Instagram stories are making waves where she's posting personal conversations and like outing people as whatever, and then also deleting it.

And both times, like, I have felt that she handles like situations like this really poorly.

However, we know GEZ to be a piece of shit.

You know, we all heard that song Halsey

wrote about him.

I'm so glad I never, ever had a baby with you.

He, there are some pretty heinous allegations out there about him.

Like, he is a certified piece of shit.

So I stand with Bibi Rex.

I can only imagine what working with him was like.

However, like, she really needs to work on her, like, scandal and her public, her, like out, her public-facing drama.

She always handles things like really poorly.

Posting and deleting is the worst thing you could do.

Agreed, but I do separate this from that conversation thing with her boyfriend about like her waiting fat.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like that, I didn't even think about that when thinking about this because it feels like two different things, especially because that's like so personal.

And like this is a business professional public relationship.

Yeah.

And I think the issue is more so like the posting and deleting and then saying I still stand by it.

Like it's giving willy-nilly.

Yeah.

And that's not a feature I like in a person.

And like the only proof that we have is like that screenshot where basically she appears to be angry that GEZ like had his team reach out to her team to shoot social content and not just him texting her, which honestly is not a crime.

And I think that's how a lot of, even like celebrities who are really close, like that's how they handle things.

That's how you get things on the schedule, like your team talking to the other person's team.

It's really not a big deal.

And I don't think like her being upset about that is warranted.

However,

I imagine she has horrible stories about him.

And I just think, yeah, like she handled this wrong and weird.

Yeah.

It's like the hill you're dying on and the thing you're going to share with us is that you're mad that he didn't just text you directly.

It's like literally not a big deal.

Yeah.

And that's what you're going to share with us.

And you're saying there might be these really bad experiences, but I don't know.

And I can't even honestly think of what it could be.

I don't really know anything about GEZ.

Even some of the things you're saying, like we all know, I don't know.

Oh, I know.

Okay.

That song that Halsey released that

really became like an anthem for domestic violence.

Oh, is that what it is?

Yeah.

Oh, and so many people like shared their stories and like,

like, I fucking hate GEZ.

Like, that's just like, I stand with Halsey.

For sure.

I love that song.

I never even knew that's what it was about.

That's like one of my favorite treadmill songs.

No, it's by the way, it's a really empowering song.

Let me read the lyrics.

Like, you should be sad.

That's the song.

It's called You Should Be Sad.

Yeah.

And here are some of the lyrics.

Oh, yeah.

And you can't fill the hole inside you with money, drugs, and cars.

So I want to start out this and say, I got to get this off my chest.

Got no anger, got no malice, just a little bit of regret.

No, nobody else will tell you.

So there's some things I got to say.

Gonna jot it down and then get it out.

And then then I'll be on my way.

No, you're not half a man.

Half the man.

You can't damn you thing you think you are.

And you can't fill the hole inside of you with money, drugs, Zenka's.

I'm so glad I never.

That's really powerful.

I've had a baby with you.

Cause you can't love nothing.

One of us has to sing.

We can't look for it.

Oh, I feel so sad.

I feel so sad.

I tried to help you.

It just made you meh, yeah, yeah.

And I had no warning about who you are.

I'm just glad I made it out without breaking down and then ran so fucking far that you would never ever touch me again, won't see your alligator tears because no, I've had enough of them.

Such a good song.

Yeah.

And

I like, seriously, I stand with Bibirexa here.

I don't know the context, but like, hey, you.

Jesus.

Yeah.

So you do stand with her, even though you're saying, like,

that's what I'm saying.

Like, she handled this badly because if you don't know context and you're just reading this, it's like, that's what you're mad about that they had your publicist text you like, you sound crazy.

Yeah.

And yeah

no and then have you ever seen the video of Halsey performing on a stage and like somebody is like shouting GEZ and she literally stops the show and she's like if you fucking say G-E-Z's name one more time I will throw you out of here she literally finds a person in the crowd like

hey

no I don't I don't know their backstory yeah there's a lot of lore there are BB Rexa and Halsey friends I don't know Like maybe Bib's just had her own negative experiences.

Yes, yes.

I think Bibi's trauma that she's referring to has nothing to do with Halsey.

I don't know if her and G-E-Z ever dated.

Like, I don't know, but he's like an animal.

Got it.

Okay.

Well, she stands by what she said.

Good.

She wants you to know.

Are you ready for our next story?

Yeah.

Some more Instagram news.

Taylor Swift stayed up late to celebrate Travis Kelsey and the Kansas City Chiefs ring ceremony, joining the party from Liverpool.

So the ring ceremony was last night, and one of the Chiefs' wags was live streaming the ceremony, and Taylor logged on from her account to watch.

It was like 3 a.m.

in Liverpool and she's leaving comments and being super sweet and supportive.

No, like it's too much.

It's just such like a regular, degular thing to do, you know?

Yeah.

And it's crazy like when she wants to watch a live stream, she has to do it from her Instagram account with like 200 million followers, you know?

Like it's

too much.

She has a FinSta, but why hide the fact that 100%, but why hide the fact that you want to watch your man?

Your man.

Like, what's what's where's the shame?

Yeah.

And it's sad that like Taylor couldn't attend that because it's like a big, you community event.

Is it?

Yeah.

Everybody gets all dressed up.

And there's like a whole ceremony and then you open the bar.

It's sad for us that she couldn't attend that.

For her too, but yeah, for us.

For us, like the potential.

The potential.

They still haven't walked a red carpet together.

No, you're right, but they've so many photos together, which is so crazy because of the six-year Joe Albin relationship.

And when people reference it, there are three photos.

There's one of her in the blue, Cinderella blue jacket.

Leaving

in.

There's um one of them running from that door to get into the car, yeah.

And then one, there's the screen, it's literally a screenshot from Miss Americana when she runs off the stage after her first reputation show and runs into his arms, and so they're just hugging and he's wearing a black baseball cap, and you it literally could be anyone.

Three photos.

Oh no, there's also one um where he's wearing a camera around his neck and they clearly just went for a hike, cute, yeah.

Um,

I just had a separate thought, but not worth going down.

We need red carpet pictures.

We need red carpet for us.

What is the next big event?

Well, it would have been this, but we don't even know about things like this.

I'm sure there's like some Hall of Fame.

You know, I feel like they'll probably wind up going to a random thing, not the Grammys, which will be in eight months from now.

And I do think it'll be at a Travis event, like an event for Travis, because Taylor, you know, is very, I think, she's very proud.

Like, she's this woman who's accomplished these insane things.

And I think she's very careful to not ever let like a boyfriend or a relationship be the moment when it's like, no, I'm being celebrated for my work and my ethic and my and my talent and my business.

But I think she'd be more than happy to like have it be like a moment for Travis.

Like she's like lifting him up because she's like the alpha, you know?

Yeah, but also I feel like when a theme, especially a female artist, like goes to a Grammys or a red carpet and they have like albums that are coming out, especially with her most recent look at the Grammys, like it's very much a piece of art and it's the moment of like, this is, you know, there's codes in here, you know, and I stand on my own and like the outfit is a work of art.

Yeah.

And it doesn't really work when you're like posing with your man and that.

No, nothing ruins an outfit.

Go to an event for him, get a dress off the rack.

Nothing

ruins an outfit more that you've worked really hard on than like a man next to you in a photo, like grabbing your arm and your waist in a way that's not flattering.

Like, fuck off.

Fuck off.

Yeah, like, I don't want to turn to the side.

I don't know what to do with my arm.

Like, you just look at the, look at the dress.

Yeah, yeah.

So So I agree.

It would be something for him and probably not something that we'll even expect.

Yeah, not something big, flashy, like one of these random sports things that like Travis goes to all the time and nobody thinks much of and they don't make the news.

Yeah, or like NFL honors.

No, that's like a big one.

That is a big one, but that's, you know, big fancy events in his realm.

Yeah.

Wait, I also,

actually, again, not another conversation I want to have.

Like, it's like so uninteresting.

No, mine wasn't like uninteresting.

It's just like, I can't explain why I am.

No, I would say it, and then you would be like, cool.

Like, okay,

okay, now you have to say it, and I'll say mine.

Okay.

So, I was saying, because speaking of football, when we were talking about Zandra yesterday, another connection, like, that I hadn't thought of is that,

is that Zandra potentially dating Danny Amendola?

Of course, Danny Amendola is notoriously Olivia Culpo's ex-boyfriend.

Right, right.

Alex Earl also has this like crazy connection to the Culpo family because Braxton famously dated Sophia Culpo for like 10 years and then like allegedly like 10 years like two.

Yeah, you know what I mean.

Then like, you know.

like left her on the side of the road.

That's how she describes it.

Yeah, like dispute about when they broke up, when timing someone else, was that cheating, like very contentious breakup.

Yeah, exactly.

And public.

So just like another, like these Xandra and Alex, like they can't get away from each other.

Like

inextricably.

Yeah.

I also think it's just a small circle.

Yeah.

It's a small world, like especially when you live in the same city and you like the same guys.

Also, I started following Xandra on Instagram and she posted a photo dump yesterday.

And like in the middle of it, we're like a picture of her and Camille at that event and then a picture of Tom Brady on stage like confirmed she was there.

Oh, okay, good, good.

Yeah.

So good.

I really

love that.

Yeah, yeah, me too.

What were you going to say?

Mine was like something kind of different, but just when you were, we were talking about Taylor and Travis, like we're ready for a red carpet picture.

You're like, they have so many pictures together.

And you were like, but with Joe, she only had three.

And I feel like the privacy with Joe gets really clowned on right now because like he was the one who wanted privacy and she's like, you know, unabashed in her love for Travis right now.

But I could see a point.

And I, I just feel like in some ways it's like makes you look back like fondly on like to have a private relationship.

Like it's not all bad.

I feel like it's been chalked up to be like all bad now where like he was hiding her.

But it's like, no, you have this thing for yourself.

Like right now her relationship is so

like for the public in and in so many ways that's so good for her because she's living her life unabashed but like there is a negative to that that I think she was trying to avoid with Joe and being private then of course there's the there's negatives to secrecy but I think that like having that like special thing for you

it's not all bad the narrative about like the privacy of her and Joe's relationship has completely shifted yes because during the relationship we were all like

happy for her we respect we we think the fact that they're so private speaks to the seriousness and the and the specialness of the relationship and it's totally Taylor's doing like why wouldn't he want Taylor to come to his you know, indie film premiere?

It would give the film that nobody's talking about something to talk about.

And yes, since they broke up, the narrative has completely shifted.

And I think part of that is people decoding some of the lyrics.

I don't know where, like,

the shift, people just decided, no, it actually was never like that.

It was never special.

It was always Joe hiding her.

I don't know where people get that like certainty and confirmation from, but you're right.

You are right about that.

I think we've learned that the you would have thought the privacy was what Taylor wanted.

We've learned that's more of what Joe wanted, but I don't think it has to be either extreme.

Like, I think it's somewhere in the middle where it's like, it was really nice.

There were some things I would have wanted to go to with you that you didn't want to go to, but like, it's a nice thing.

And that also doesn't mean that her thing with Travis isn't special.

Like, it's just, it's different.

And I would imagine, you know, you could look back now and be like, oh, privacy was nice for a second.

But also...

Privacy in a relationship is not something Taylor Swift is currently eligible for.

You have to think about also the timeline.

There was a time, and especially a couple years when she was dating Joe, that were like kind of a low in her career, like the lover era.

There wasn't this insane global search for where is Taylor, what is Taylor doing?

What is Taylor eating?

What is Taylor wearing?

Who is Taylor with?

Like, she actually probably had access to a little bit more privacy during that time because she wasn't the number one star in the world.

She was a relatively big pop star, but you know, even

Ariana Gandhi can leave the house these days and not get photographed.

Taylor Schwift cannot leave the house now and not get photographed.

Yeah, but that's also because of the relationship to now.

What came first?

Actually, what her success was her success, yeah.

Yeah, was Eras.

That's why he gave her his number.

Yeah.

Which number?

Right.

Right.

Okay.

Well, I'm glad we shared our innermost thoughts, Turdy.

Me too.

And you know what?

They both led to interesting conversation.

We shouldn't doubt ourselves.

We are interesting.

I wasn't feeling doubtful.

I was just like, do I need to make this point?

Does every point need to be made all the time?

Sound off in the comments.

Did either of our points need to be made?

I don't think that they did, but I don't think it took away from the show in any way, but I think people will understand why.

Oh, okay, yeah.

Yeah, I know why sometimes you don't say everything that's on your mind.

It's just like not everything needs to be said.

Yeah, this isn't like the best episode we've ever done because of those conversations we just had.

No, and I think our honesty and candor about

conversations is appreciated and could lead to the best episode.

And we're kind of like lifting the veil because people aren't the fourth watch.

What's your process?

You just saw it.

You just

saw it.

You're so authentic.

Ah, then, hey.

Are you ready ready for our next story?

What number four?

Three.

Yeah.

And it goes like this, if you're watching on YouTube.

Oh, she's breaking her heart hands.

I'm breaking my heart hands, but though they're not my heart hands, they are Giselle and Joachim Valente's heart hands.

Giselle and Joachim have reportedly split.

That's the first part of the story.

And then it's rumored.

due to the stress after Tom Brady's roast.

Okay, I want to say, because that sounds so stupid, like that's obviously not the reason.

However, however, do you remember that police footage of Giselle getting pulled over?

Like she's clear, she was distressed.

Like she actually is, I feel, someone who is currently extremely stressed based on that.

Is that before or after the roast?

It was a little bit before.

And like the roast could have put her over the edge.

Like honestly,

it sounds stupid, but maybe it's not.

Like maybe that was like, like most things are, the straw that broke the camel's back, but like there are a ton of other things.

And if it was just that thing alone, it wouldn't be that.

To be completely honest, like, like, I'm shedding no pins.

I'm shedding no tears over this relationship ending.

Like, Giselle can do better than a no-name Krav McGah instructor,

especially if Tom Brady is going to be out here dating like Irene and Jay.

Whatever.

He's being linked to like all these supermodels.

Like, Giselle needs to seriously start dating.

Like, the thing is, like, who?

And this is the game.

For sure.

But, like, let me

challenge you.

Why?

To win.

Win what?

The divorce.

Everybody knows.

No, I know, but like, really, like, how do you win the divorce?

By like

being genuinely happy and moved on.

And I actually think that dating someone like in the spotlight

is

like, no, I know, I know, but like, if you're actually talking about like a real

joy and happiness, then like, great, the jiu-jitsu instructor, like, if she's happy and she loves him.

It doesn't have to be like tip for tat.

No, it does.

In my, yeah, Leo, right?

Yeah.

Even though, like, didn't she date Leo?

She, yeah, no, that's.

I mean, there's nothing better than like going back with an ex.

Yeah, but she's 43.

Oh, aged out of the program.

Damn.

Um, let's pull up the list.

Okay, fine.

Yeah, add her to our Joe Manginello.

Joe Manganello.

Yeah, I guess, like, she could do that to be petty, but like, that just speaks to like a real,

I've moved on.

That, like, I'm not playing these games.

You know?

I do know.

So I feel like she's, if you really think about it, not on the surface, but like deep down, like she's winning the divorce because like she doesn't care.

That's

the opposite of a love is in hate.

It's in differences.

It is in love.

It is in hate.

It's just indifference.

Yeah.

Tailored.

Is that tailored?

The great Taylor Swift once said.

Okay, I hear you, but as it pertains to this story, like, I'm personally not crying, you know, I'm not, I'm not this.

I'm not this, I'm not.

I, and I said, these aren't, these hands are symbolic of someone.

You know what they are?

They're just hands.

I haven't quoted that infamously on Lock and Line in a while.

I need to bring that back into my repertoire.

I feel like it will, now it will come back as they do.

And you know what I'm going to do after this?

I'll probably go get my dick sucked at the roundup.

You should.

Yeah.

You deserve it.

Just

hands.

I just heard it.

I do deserve it.

Sorry, that just kind of like I missed that.

I do.

Thank you.

I hear he gets his dick sucked at the roundup.

And I know the boys who did it.

Oh, yes.

And I know the boys who did it.

She was so iconic.

Seriously, I know she went out in like a, in a blaze of disgracefulness, like for like Loki being so racist.

However,

I'm holding space for two truths.

Like she did the work on that show.

No, like the graph of like Leanne's departure and the show ending, like, they're just parallel.

They're congruous, yeah.

Yeah,

just one line, actually.

No, and like, that whole chirping Mexican thing, like, she was so wrong for that.

So crazy wrong for that.

And especially, like, those are my people.

Yeah.

And I don't fuck with any sort of slander.

Like, seriously, comfort by people, you guys know me.

I'm so loyal.

Or as my people would say, I'm a loyalita.

However, like, they're just hands.

Yeah.

Are you ready for our next story?

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's little casting news, a little picture next to picture.

Who's playing who?

Okay, tell me.

Is it a biopic?

It is a limited series.

Oh, and that's actually a recast.

I guess we already did this story and we said it was someone else.

Joan?

No.

Amanda Knox, which I know is like a gap for you

in your knowledge.

It's a gap in like the cultural.

landscape of like a story that's so big that has so many people in a chokehold that I seriously like I couldn't be bothered to care less about I I don't even know what she was accused of doing.

And like, did she do it?

She was accused of murdering her roommate and

I don't think she did it.

And she was acquitted.

She was acquitted.

Okay.

Because the glove did not fit.

So they must acquit.

But it was going to be Margaret Qualey playing Amanda Knox.

I'm sure you know what Amanda Knox looks like.

Yeah, a very regular, jagular brunette girl.

And honestly, Margaret Qualey is a perfect cast.

So she exited from that.

And instead, someone who looks even more like Amanda Knox, Grace Van Patten from Tell Me Lies will be playing Amanda Knox.

She's also a phenomenal actress and I just also love her getting work.

So I like this.

I like this a lot.

I like this a lot.

I already forgotten about the Margaret quality thing and I think she looks more like Amander.

Yeah.

And I think she needs her next big role.

And maybe this role is where I finally start learning about Amanda Knox.

I do love a limited series.

Well, the rest of us watch the documentary on Netflix.

That's why, and most of people, not me, because we were young, but like most people like followed the lived it.

Sorry, like it wasn't that long ago.

And then recently she had a documentary on Netflix.

Now she has a podcast.

She was on Joe Rogan.

I listened to a lot of her on Joe Rogan.

Yeah.

So now we're going, here we go again.

We haven't, I guess we haven't had a dramatized version, just like the documentary so far.

Yeah.

I don't know how many times you can tell this story.

But also I saw last week, like she's being accused of something again in Italy.

Like she might have to go back.

I think she's being like accused of defamation.

Okay, by the way, I did see that too.

It's like, can this girl just stay out of Italy?

No, like, she and Brittany Griner and their passports need to be in the garden

at the stake.

Yeah.

Like, can they even get her, arrest her in Italy if she's safe here?

Do we need extradition?

That's what it's called.

Extradition laws.

I don't.

I think that we do.

Like, people who commit a crime here can't just run off to Italy, right?

You'd have to ask Joe Jiu Dice.

Oh, that's so.

Well, because he literally committed a crime here and ran off to Italy.

Now, ran off, I do mean deported.

Right.

But, you know,

where does he live now?

Bahamas?

In the Bahamas, yeah.

So he could be close to America.

Is that the closest?

Like, wouldn't Toronto be like a 45-minute flight?

Toronto?

Oh, to New Jersey?

Canada.

Sorry, I.

So

probably, but do you see Joe living in Canada?

No, he wants to be able to.

Not any more than I live in the Bahamas.

Like, if you're, like,

what do you do to girls?

Always want to be going to Canada.

Like, at least now when they go visit their dad, it's like, let's go, leap of faith at the Atlantis.

No, for sure, for sure.

For sure.

He's kind of become like the mayor of the Bahamas.

Like, anytime someone, a celebrity or anyone goes to the Bahamas, like, they see him.

Yeah.

And they have to sort of like, you know,

it's really

once you get deported, are you allowed to visit?

No.

Okay.

I thought you just get deported from like living here.

Being here.

I do feel like he got a lot of people.

Because you could come back and sneak in.

I do feel like he got a raw deal.

Like now in hindsight, he definitely was guilty, but he wasn't guilty of a dangerous crime.

He was guilty of being a thief.

Yeah.

And there are thieves walking among us.

It was like the highest letter to the law that they punished him with and made an example out of him.

Yeah.

And, you know, as a man, he has forged orders.

Like, I feel like

violent criminals are running amok every day.

I just feel like we don't talk enough about who are in citizens here.

They're not getting deported.

I feel like we don't talk enough about how, like, that was wrong.

Like, he literally has a whole family here that he can't say because he committed mortgage fraud.

Like, his, you know, the victim of his crime was the government and a bank.

Like, do we give a fucking thing?

I mean, that's why they were extra salty.

Yeah.

And, like, we, like, personally, as a taxpayer, like, I don't give a fuck, you know?

Yeah.

Meanwhile, I'm, I don't know, I'm on the U.S.

State Department website.

They're telling me about the, the treaty between the Italian Republic and America when it regards extradition.

I'm not going to get my answer in a switch manner.

Oh, wait.

Does the U.S.

extradite to Italy?

The U.S.-Italy treaty allows extradition only for offenses punishable by a custodial sentence of more than one year or a more severe penalty under the law of both states.

So, yes.

So, it's case-dependent.

So, I don't know about that.

She wouldn't be going to prison even if she got, you know,

no, for defamation, you wouldn't go to prison.

Oh, that's so true.

So, she doesn't have to go, actually.

great happy for her stay put amander stay put

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And I need to get my face in a cake like the minute that I can.

And so, and I used to be a house with no groceries.

Like shopping and being like stacked up on good snacks, protein-filled snacks is literally a life-changing part of this journey.

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Sometimes I'll put it in my coffee.

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Yeah.

Because you can make protein ice cream with these shakes.

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Honestly, why not?

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Our fifth and final story is Summerhouse Recap.

The reunion concluded.

It was a two-part reunion, which I guess

didn't need to be three parts, especially if they were going to all act so foul and infuriating.

Like, I genuinely am angry.

I don't know, like, where to take my ire.

I guess it's good that we have this show so I can spew everything that I'm feeling.

And I can't imagine how people who don't have a podcast like felt after watching that.

I think that the favoritism and sort of like actually the deep-rooted misogyny was really on display last night because the fact that we went through this whole reunion and literally Kyle was never once asked about him calling his wife a fucking bitch.

That's

lazy and he's throwing and he's having a tampered, tampered tantrum.

He's addressed the lazy, yeah.

And his answer was insufficient, but we did address it.

Literally, the moment where he called her a fucking bitch was not addressed.

And for me, that was like a peak moment of the season.

I think for a lot of people, it was.

Right.

And it wasn't just like one fight over the summer.

Like the two of them also had a pretty Ms.

summer as a couple.

And I feel like because Amanda opened up about what she had been going through, you know, what can you really, you don't want to poke and prod after that.

Yeah, but I think it also makes Kyle's comments even worse.

Right.

Because he had known like after the wedding that she had, and that this is something that runs in her family.

And she is, you know, has spoken to him about her anxiety before.

So he knows this is something she's susceptible to and he knows that it's been going on.

So you, you're calling your wife who is struggling with her mental health, you're calling her lazy.

That's even worse.

No, and you're saying like you're lonely.

Oh Oh my God.

And it's like, how do I literally, Kyle puts me to shame for making things about himself.

I mean, it was absurd.

And I just feel like, even though, and I feel like Amanda's not the issue in the relate, like in the fights, like she doesn't say things.

She's like very even-tempered and very measured.

But like, why can't we continue to ask Kyle?

What is going on with him?

And like, and why he would act like that.

And also all this, he would seem so like stressed the whole season, like nothing.

No feet to the fire, nothing.

no and the conversation in particular about when it pertained to lindsay and carl and kyle just like chiming in the entire fucking time about cocaine carl which lindsay definitely was wrong for however i watched on peacock by the way and they had some footage in there that i read on twitter that was not in the original footage and you know lindsay shared that um

carl smokes weed and before the summer he had taken mushrooms was that on the regular episode no it wasn't and we had they had mentioned that at some point in the season like that he smokes weed so when she asks are you on drugs like it wasn't out of the blue it wasn't out of the blue and that is so germane to the fucking conversation i'm sorry when your entire like position on the show for the last couple of years is surrounded around your sobriety which is so important um

your sobriety is

fair game And Lindsay sharing that they had went to a festival and taken mushrooms and actually Carl said he really didn't like it and he didn't want to do it again.

That's important because a sober person is a sober person.

And if you're California sober, like, you know,

who said that on Vanderpump Rolls?

And we were like all clowning on him.

James Kennedy.

That's a thing people do.

But you're like, you have brought your sobriety to the table.

So we're going to talk about it now.

And you're actually not completely sober if you smoke weed.

So like that's just something to talk about.

And so the conversation about cooking, Carl, was bothering me so much because have we all fucking forgotten who, who outed

Carl's journey on cocaine and that he came to work on cocaine?

Kyle.

Kyle.

So Kyle having the absolute fucking gall to sit there and be like, apologize, apologize.

We're literally talking about his journey, Carl's journey with cocaine because of you.

You brought it on the show and you literally destroyed your friendship with Carl because of it.

So respectfully, shut the fuck up.

Yeah, just like be quiet on this one.

It also really bothered me.

Like I felt like, first of all, Lindsay didn't call him.

cocaine Carl like to his face.

She's talking to her girlfriend and she said, and it's not a kind thing to say, but she said he's acting like cocaine Carl.

That's not accusing him of being on cocaine.

That's saying like he's acting like so aggressive and like how he used to act.

Like not saying, I think he's on cocaine, but just like, that's how elevated he was.

Like, they made it like what she said.

And to me, her calling him cocaine Harl behind his back is no different than Kyle calling Amanda a fucking bitch.

Like rude thing to say, rude thing to say, but she's burned at the stake and he's like, oh, sorry.

Oops.

And the part that probably bothered me the most when everyone was chiming in, just basically being like, Lindsay, this is your life.

And, you know, Carl actually didn't set you up to break up with you on camera.

But even if he did, why should this, you know, not be fodder for the show?

Like, you signed up for this, basically.

And I just feel of all the people to say that to, when

Lindsay is hands down, maybe Carl too,

has been through the most on this show.

She shared.

Everything.

She's been dragged.

She shared her miscarriage, like things you don't have to share.

So to even insinuate that Lindsay would like hide something from the show is so fucking disrespectful.

Like Lindsay has bled out more than anyone, if only maybe Carl too, Carl with his brother and his sobriety.

Like there are people on the show who hide.

There are people on the show who really don't share much, like who we don't know much about them, but they're interesting.

And, you know, we, we, like, I.

No, to make, to level that accusation at her, and I think also the only other people who I'd put in that bucket of like, we see a lot about them and then not in a pretty light is Kyle and Amanda too.

Like their relationships always just like splayed out.

But everyone else, like Danielle has got her Robert, he comes once a weekend.

We don't know what goes on there we don't know who the other people are dating or really what's going on with them so like to act like she's so wrong for trying to conceal this and it's like no i gave you my whole fucking summer i gave you every weekend summer was over they all heard us say that i say that we're out of the house the rental agreement is up I'm off the clock.

And I thought Andy was being so misleading too.

Like just, oh my God, he's infuriating.

What's so crazy is Andy's kind of going through it, like in his personal brand right now.

Yeah.

Like I, and I think Anderson Cooper was saying about Andy, like, he's just like, he looks like a swan, but he's fucking paddling underwater to like stay up and not get canceled.

And like, I think one of a legitimate accusation, like a criticism of Andy is like the misogyny.

It's so glaring.

And this was on full display in the summer house reunion.

And this is amidst like everything that people are saying about him.

Like you would think he would at least try.

And act and pretend like he gives a shit about the women and isn't playing favorites with all the boys.

No, and Lindsay, to me, I was reading, people are making such fire points.

And people, I think we're on the same level as people because i went to twitter i really i always like to see what people are saying and people are just like you know bravo's this network that really built itself on the backs of women like lindsay um you know giving 10 years of her life to the show going through probably like the lowest points of your life and sharing that on the show and for Andy and even the cast just to like turn on her in this moment was so disappointing because, and I'm not a Lindsay apologist, like Lindsay's toxic as hell, you know, like, and we could go into that, but like in this moment, for everyone to be like, Carl's the victim and and coddle him, and I think it was so

the most indicative moment was like Carl sitting there being like, you know, Lindsay, like you have a boyfriend, you've been in a relationship since January.

Like, I haven't kissed anyone since our relationship ended.

And, you know, that's embarrassing for every, everyone was like, Carl, no.

Like, am I the only one seeing through this, like, this series?

And by the way, I'm sure you don't know this, but Captain Lee from Below Deck recently did a podcast where he told this story and he basically said, you know, I just want to say I believe everything Lindsay's saying.

I had the craziest fucking experience with Carl Radke.

I've known him for a while.

We're actually friends.

He came on the podcast.

It was great.

We had a great conversation.

He didn't ask for anything to be cut out.

I think I promoted it on Tuesday that he was coming on on Wednesday.

Carl fucking calls me and lights me the fuck up, screaming angry.

He said, I've never seen somebody so crazy and angry in my life.

Basically saying that, you know, Captain Lee's using him like clout chasing, whatever, and not to run the interview.

Captain Lee's clout chasing.

Right.

And Carl, and Captain Lee was like, it was so crazy.

It was such a flip.

And it was very similar to what Lindsay describes.

He's like, we didn't really see an interview.

And like, I want nothing to do.

He's fucking crazy.

Yeah.

So, and that's Captain Lee, who's not a shitster.

Like, he's literally probably the most honest man on the network.

Right.

So just back to what Andy was trying to clarify about production, like he's saying, Carl didn't call production and say, I'm ending my engagement.

And I think that's probably true.

And Andy said, you know, you had a bad weekend.

So we just wanted to follow follow up.

And like, there could be a follow-up conversation with Carl and Lindsay and it doesn't go well.

But to like end it, kind of, I know everyone's like, how can you be blindsided?

You were fighting all summer.

But like, I feel like when you're about to end an engagement, like there, I would imagine there are like more stages where it's like you're questioning.

I don't think Lindsay questioned at any point if the engagement was going to end.

I think the question she was asking herself the whole time is like, how can I make this work?

Not like, is like, I don't know, maybe some people like take a break first.

Maybe someone like moves out for a week cool off like to just abruptly end the relationship and to say that he went into that conversation just like wanting to talk to her is so untrue because she couldn't have been more even killed common understanding so what was he hoping that she would say that would have stopped him from ending the engagement and it's really crazy when you think about like how the whole cast and andy last night were just sort of coddling carl and

not really holding him or Kyle accountable for anything that they did this season.

And then I think back to last week, we're like, seriously,

one of the worst roastings of a person ever, Wes.

Like everyone just sat in silence while he was being eviscerated and we lived for it because he deserved it.

But his crimes comparatively, like,

are not even remotely close to, you know, white, uh, Kyle calling his wife a fucking bitch, calling her lonely when she's going through, uh, calling her lazy when she's going through like a deep depression.

Carl, like, seriously being the fucking worst.

Neither one of them got even like the remote asshanding that they needed.

But when you think about Wes, now it feels harsh.

Yeah.

And like West's crime is like leading on a person, not being serious.

And

like I, West is my least favorite person, but I feel like no one in the group, especially the women, have no compassion for the fact that like Lindsay is a 38-year-old woman who just had her engagement ended.

Like these are real things that, and we know she wants children.

And like.

Regardless of you guys fought and it was bad and you really thought that you should get married.

Like she is starting from zero from scratch at 38 years old when the things that she wants, she's on a biological clock for.

Like, have some fucking sympathy.

And there is a substantial rumor out there.

I saw it on a bunch of blogs that Lindsay is currently pregnant.

I hope so.

I fucking hope so, too.

Oh, my God.

I really,

what?

With triplets?

Triplets.

Like, I was so glad to hear that she's in a relationship.

And I feel like people were like, you know, first of all, their engagement ended in, what, August, September.

She started dating someone in January.

Like, you've got to make haste.

She's 38 years old and she wants children.

Like, what do you guys think is is going to happen?

No, I'm sorry.

They can never make me think of it.

But Carl has the luxury of not kissing anyone.

Right, right, right.

Such victim energy.

And that's misogyny.

He has that luxury and she doesn't.

Searching for

misogyny.

The Carl Radke story.

I just, I can't stand him.

And also,

it really bothered me when every, and especially the women on the cast, like they know the value of content creation because they all do brand deals.

It's infuriating.

So for them to even compare Lindsay's job as a full-time content creator to Carl doing three brand deals in one year, stop.

No, and also like, okay, so they both make money from the show and they're both influencers, though Lindsay's having enough success with it to stay in the apartment by herself.

Yep.

You know, she's doing really well with it.

And no, it's not acceptable for that to be Carl's full-time job.

Like he needs, and also when she, and by the way, it's exactly what we were saying yesterday.

Influencing, I'm sorry, is a job for women and it's a job where women make more money and Carl doing it being like, look, I did a brand deal.

It's not the same as as Lindsay building a legitimate business and let's we not forget Lindsay came onto the show with a real fucking job that she left for because she was making more money doing content creation and being a reality star than she was at her actually very legitimate successful high-paying job

Lindsay said all summer like ambition is like sexy to me so like if we have the same job and you're like more beta at it like that's not hot acceptable that's yeah so I feel like nothing she said was inconsistent.

It wasn't like there was this big thing that we didn't know and everyone's making her feel like so crazy for saying Carl didn't have a job when he needed to get a full-time job.

Also, like, Lindsay can be a mom and an influencer and a reality star.

Great.

Like, Carl should be doing full-time too.

Agreed.

Seriously, like, disappointing on the entire, I don't expect anything from like Carl and Kyle and whatever.

They've got to protect their boy, but like, Andy and the rest of the group just piling on on Lindsay.

Yeah, and the girls.

And I know that they have their issues with her.

And she sabotaged Paige's photo shoot, says Carl, who's a liar, and sees things through the lens of his own feelings.

Maybe he felt like she said that.

I don't know.

It's all about his feelings.

So that was really frustrating.

And so now Lindsay's in a serious relationship.

She may or may not be pregnant.

I don't think she should come back to the show.

I completely agree.

She should, she'd say, fuck you all.

Try and have a show without me.

The only thing you can all agree on is how much you dislike me.

Go ahead.

Go have fun.

No, it's true.

And also, like, you have to think about the show is having like a moment now, but the show, like, really was on three wheels for many years.

Like, they tried really hard to make Summerhouse a thing, and it has recently become a thing.

Lindsay has been there from day one, bleeding out when no one was watching.

How many sandwiches have you made me?

Like, she really, I'm sorry, is the backbone of this show.

And she's toxic as hell, and she's been crazy.

But I'm sorry, there's something to be said for growth.

I just think that's a good thing.

And I think she's a perfect

time I've been watching Summerhouse, which isn't very long, like literally three seasons, like I, I've not seen her be toxic, but I know I'm missing something.

Yeah.

But I feel like anytime you want to defend Lindsay, you have to caveat it with, well, yeah, she's Lindsay.

I'm like, she's a girl doing her best in the world.

Okay.

So true.

It's hard out there.

It's so true.

And you're right.

It was enormously disappointing.

Because Kyle was annoying me too, but it's understandable.

And everybody, you're right, gets like a mouthpiece.

She's not going to be, but she definitely was a contender to be Weenie of the Week.

And it was Amanda Batoula for last night's behavior.

Like, especially given what's going on like I think people have been speculating all week that her and Kyle are divorced really oh because

there's a video yes there's a video of Kyle and then Amanda's statement from last night's episode which she was clearly like addressing her opening up about her depression but her statement now people are like thinking it's like really weird timing and like she's not been in a lot of her photos like people think like people think she's on the brink of divorce but she's out here pointing fingers like seriously take a seat Take a seat.

Your husband called you a fucking bitch on national television.

Like who are you to criticize?

Yeah.

And then the mullet, even though he looks so much better without it.

Oh my god.

I didn't even realize.

He's actually a very handsome guy.

Oh my God.

What an actual mongrel he was looking like all season long.

I did.

Like, haircuts on girls are so major.

On a guy, like, I never even noticed.

Oh, my God.

Yeah.

Who the fuck let him walk around like that?

Disgraceful.

Yeah.

No, I'm serious.

Him becoming a DJ.

I just, oh, okay.

When Andy was like, oh, DJ James Kennedy, like,

how is, ready for this?

How is Kyle becoming a DJ, like the bravo DJ, any different than Craig investing in another canned cocktail company?

Trills.

Just feels kind of similar, no?

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's a lot of dynamics for this next season.

Like, summer's around the corner.

They're going to start, like, they always film July 4th and maybe the weekend before.

Like, I'll probably start filming.

in the next two weeks.

Kyle and Carl and Paige, like that's a wild one.

This video of Kyle that just came out, Sierra and Wes, like, how are they going to be in the same house?

West was on Vial Files.

I only saw clips on reels, but like.

Okay, what is up with Nick Vile, like dying on the hill of West?

He's like out here making all these TikToks defending him.

You think?

Oh my God, have you not seen?

He got roasted on TikTok.

No, I saw one video from the show where it felt like Nick was trying to give him like advice and be like, you done fucked up.

Like they recapped on their show part one and he like just basically was like Sierra will see this in a few years like it was all her fault.

like it was a really crazy bad take it was such a bad take and it was kind of shocking because nick like has good takes i feel like he's actually very leveled and i really like his wife and i feel like she's really smart too and she did the funniest like clip she fucking hates kyle like i feel like they were actually and like they're in a unique space where like they their job is to critique reality TV, but they're also friends with a lot of these people and they come on this guest.

So it's an awkward balance sometimes to like criticize someone that you're our friends with, but they always tell the truth.

And I actually really respect that.

He just came out of left field with the worst take on West, which of course he's entitled to.

I also saw, but I believe you that that's what's out there.

But from what I saw, like it was a grilling and also like a, here's how you can be like a better man.

And maybe Nick even sees a little bit of himself in West because he took a while to settle down.

But I feel like he was always more intentional and like serious, monogamous, you know?

Yes.

So like West, I don't know.

I'll send you the clip where they're recapping the Sierra West thing after part one, and it's just like the worst take a person could have.

But you can never make me hate the bials.

You could

eat my postpartum queen right now.

I love her.

I love her.

I love their family.

I love their wedding.

Her life is like, it's like, seriously not relatable to me.

Like, she's in a toad, but I just love her.

Wait, how is it not relatable to you?

You're like a podcasting wife.

No, no, like she's a mom.

Like, she's a mom.

And you're saying you like her motherhood content, even though it's a moment.

I do.

And I love that she got married.

Like, I think a lot of people would wait till like they're fully out of the postpartum.

And she like had to release a statement of people being like, your boobs look so big.

She's like, I'm literally breastfeeding at my wedding.

Fuck off.

Like, some girls would wait for that to be done.

I feel like she's so embracing mother.

She doesn't give a fuck.

Like I love her.

No, I love that.

That's been one of my favorite follows recently.

And I've met her once and she's like just like gorgeous in person and so nice.

You love to hear it.

You love to hear it.

So all that to say.

There's a lot of interesting dynamics at play.

Yes.

And was Wes grilled?

I don't know, but like what's also so crazy is Wes was the star of the season.

He only spoke in the reunion when he was

handed to him.

Asshanded him.

He didn't even say anything in the second part.

Like woof.

And then even on the clip of him in biophiles, he's like shrinking into the couch.

Like, we barely see his face.

It's like,

it's so crazy how he's such a different person when it's not all fun and games.

Like, he's not up for the task.

Did you also feel like production-wise, in terms, because we talked last week about the lighting being really off on a lot of people.

And then when Wes showed everyone his pit stains, was that in the

uncut version?

That was like an abnormal pit stain and how everyone had to be fanning themselves with those cards.

I've never seen that before.

I feel like this was kind of like a janky reunion.

And I thought the lighting on Jesse Solomon was really bad.

They couldn't make me ever hate him.

No, never.

What would Jesse Solomon?

No matter how many times he jumps in to defend West or Carl Harold.

I literally don't.

I don't care.

That's just Jesse.

That's just

Jesse.

Jesse, Jesse.

It's the wrong side.

He can see.

No, no.

Hey, Jesse.

What's that?

From the Jesse Disney Shadow and Original Show starring Debbie Ryan.

I thought you were doing like, hey,

Jesse.

Let's move into our.

No, I wasn't.

Let's move into our queenie and weenie of the week.

Where Jackie and I, let's move in.

Where Jackie and I dole out basically the biggest awards in podcasting, and we do it weekly.

We give somebody the honor of being queenie of the week and weenie of the week.

And it's just as it sounds.

Were you acting like a queenie this week?

Well, you might be eligible for queenie of the week.

Were you acting in major weenie-like energy?

Were you operating in weenie spaces?

You perhaps could be eligible for weenie of the week.

Now, it's important to keep in mind, weenie and queenie of the week are not permanent.

It's a seven-day term.

It's not a big deal.

Don't get comfortable.

Like, you can be queenie one week and seriously, weenie the next, and you can be weenie one week and queenie the next.

Have we ever had somebody be both?

I think so.

Maybe.

It's possible is all I'm saying.

So Jax, why do you start us off with queenie of the week?

So after this conversation, I'm so tempted to make it Lindsay Hubbard because like I thought she handled herself in a queenie-like manner.

I'm really rooting for her

and I'm wishing her lots of love.

But I had written down Caitlin Clark, another one who handled herself with such grace this week.

I feel like she's been taking a lot of heat in the space.

She has.

And she's really handling herself in a graceful manner, in a queenie-like manner.

I like that.

I like that a lot.

And who's your weenie?

You don't want to do your queenie?

You know, one thing about me, I have a really hard time coming up with a queenie.

So, and obviously Lindsay's an obvious choice, but I don't, I feel like last week we did Alex Summerhouse People Today when it's like weenie.

It's just because it's the conversation right before the segment and we're heated.

Yeah, yeah.

But we have to think about the whole week of shows, you know?

Yeah.

And so for me, weenie is always super, super easy.

And for me, this week it's going to be Annalise Vanderpoel.

That's so funny.

For me, I had a tie and it was to the two perpetrators of loser and loser crime and it was Annalise and Jojo.

No, Annalise, I've been like, she's been kind of a sleeper weenie, you know?

Like I've been seeing her content for an actual like two years.

And her weenie-like-ness flew under the radar, you're saying.

I mean, there was just always somebody being a bigger weenie, yeah.

But I think this week it came to like a weenie head,

yeah, because it made the fast five, that's why it made the fast five, which is kind of like a we have a high bar.

We do, and I'm I think it's the both of them,

yeah.

And then, my queenie of the week,

it's so hard.

Who is my queenie of the week?

Like,

I'm just so happy.

Gas X.

Thank you.

It's also hard to like not just deliver

for Friday.

Yeah.

We need to do that at a glance.

We need to do that every day.

We actually do because, yes, but nothing gave me more joy and like relief and love this week than Gas X.

So yes.

I think that's beautiful.

Thank you.

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That's our week.

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We are dropping a merch collection that you will start to see sprinkles of.

So make sure you're following us on social media because we did a sickening photo shoot that we're really excited about.

It's probably some of our best merch to date.

I'm not going to lie.

Best merch, best shoot.

It's going to be so fun.

Summer collection.

Summer here we come.

You guys, like, we are, we're living for summer.

We're like toxically summer people right now.

Summer, summer, summer.

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Love ya.

Bye.