All's To Say: Wednesday, May 29th, 2024

Good morning, Millennials.

Welcome back to the choosing.

Happy Wednesday.

That's right.

It's hump day.

Don't forget to hump someone you love.

Speaking of people I love.

Hey, Jax, how you dern?

I'm dern good, Latour De Lou.

Excited for today's show.

We have a lot on the docket.

Vanner Pump Royals was on last night.

Yeah, so a scheduling update, Dear Toasters, has been pushed to tomorrow because the grand finale of Vanner Pump Rolls, part three of the reunion, was on last night.

So Jackie and I will be tackling that in today's TV recap, in addition to just the fast five, catching up with the swirlies, all the things going on.

And it's going to be a great show.

It really is.

I texted you last night after Vanderpump rules, and of course you didn't answer me.

I didn't.

Explain yourself.

Remind me what you said again.

I know it was about Vanderpump.

VPR reunion part three was so good.

I'm locked in.

Yeah, you said part three had me locked in.

And I was like, oh, has Jackie had a lobotomy?

She doesn't talk like that.

And I had like watched it like two hours before you.

I like watched it live.

And I was just like, I had moved on.

I can't explain it.

Okay, rude.

Yeah, I had moved on.

Ben and I restarted entourage.

And I don't know.

I was just like, I was there, you know?

You couldn't even like, I guess we're not the sort of people.

Like, I don't feel like you need to respond to my text if you don't actually have a response in your heart.

Yeah.

But you couldn't throw me a bone.

But I don't want a bone thrown for bone's sake.

And I figured like we literally have designated time the next morning to talk about it.

So like maybe we could talk about it there.

But do you ever feel like

because it's all work, no play?

Like, what if I just want to talk to you about the Vanderpump Rules reunion?

Like you doing that and we're not recording is weird of you.

No, no cap.

I know.

I know, but it's also weird that I feel like we're on the reunion where they're talking about like things for the camera and not for the camera, but everything should be for the camera since this is our genuine lives.

But then there should be things not for the camera.

Oh my God, are we Vanderpump rules?

Jackie, we have plenty that's not for the camera, okay?

We do have plenty.

So we have that.

Wait, you texted me.

Oh, just really quickly.

So Ben and I restarted Entourage just because we weren't in the mood to watch like a full movie and we just wanted like an hour of TV before bed.

So we watched like three episodes of Entourage.

Ask me how many times they say the R word in the first three episodes of Entourage.

At least seven.

Yeah, you know that about Entourage and you've remarked on that before.

Yeah, no, I think I even wrote about it in my book.

It's really a testament to like how things change so quickly because Entourage is still like a super relevant show.

Yeah.

It hasn't been cut out.

And I actually, I think it's good.

Like it's important to know we used to talk like that.

And they call each other like the F slur because you know they're like toxic straight men like and they call each other like F like, it's so crazy.

And what's so crazy that not enough people talk about,

I totally forgot there was a time where like Sarah Foster was like a full-blown actress.

Oh, she's working on Entourage.

She's in Nana, she plays herself.

Yeah, she's in Nanojuano.

She plays Jen, iconic.

But she's in

an episode, like one of the early episodes of Entourage playing herself.

And it's just like she's on Kimmel as like an actress, just like doing Kimmel.

It's so crazy.

Oh, that's so fun.

Also, speaking of the F slur, did you see that the Pope said the F slur?

I did.

And

Pope drama is probably my favorite category of things to discuss.

Like, of course, the famous liking of the bikini models, Instagram from the Pope's account.

The famous puffer.

I have to, the puffer, like really, truly, the AI generated puffer.

I

have to imagine it was like a lost in translation moment.

Like, what he meant in his language as gayness came off as F-ness.

I actually only saw the headline.

I didn't see a clip.

Like, was he speaking in English?

No,

the Pope doesn't speak English.

He speaks Italian.

Right.

So then he said the English slur word?

No.

Okay, let me tell you.

So, because I guess I shouldn't have brought it up.

Like, I didn't see it.

The gay response to this is so funny.

Like, they're not really offended.

I don't think they think the Pope is homophobic.

And, you know, like...

The gay community, especially, I'm talking about like gay men.

They love the F word.

Like, they use it in their own community.

And I think they're loving this moment because it's given them like a new word to use.

Yeah.

Okay.

So the Pope was quoted using the word

F-R-O-C-I-A-G-G-I-N-E,

which in Roman dialect, Roman Italian dialect, roughly translate to

Fnis.

Fnis?

F, the letter, like I'm not going to say the slur.

Right, like, um, I'll rhyme it, shall I?

No, no, just Fnis.

What don't you understand?

The F-slur, N-E-S-S.

F-slur.

Do you know the F-slur I'm talking about?

It's not fuck.

Yeah, like, I'm.

Yeah, a cigarette.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Okay, but then, but they didn't use

that-ness.

Oh, I guess he did.

Okay.

That's what the word translates to, the Italian word.

Got it.

When I saw he saw the F word, I thought he was speaking English.

But he was reiterating his opposition to gay men studying the priesthood.

Why?

I don't know.

I feel like that's what we should be talking about.

Like, obviously, that word.

I do think people are talking about everything that he said, but then the way it was distilled to like TikTok and it's about the word.

Well, why can't the queers study for priesthood?

You'll have to watch his speech in Italian.

Aren't priests celibate?

Like, it doesn't even matter.

Yeah.

I just want to say, I don't feel like the gay community is like dying to become become priests, but they should be allowed.

I'm sure they're like, no, I'm all set, but no, the Pope is just blundering.

Wild.

I know.

Kind of feels like the Pope needs crisis PR.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I think we just might be the gals to do it.

You think so?

No, no, because we're also like Jewish.

I don't know enough about the faith.

Yeah, and you know me.

I'm always confusing Christian and Catholic, which is really uncool of me.

I need to do better.

Yeah.

That's true.

But I know the Pope is Catholic.

The Pope is Catholic.

Because that's like that phrase, is the Pope Catholic?

Affirmative.

Affirmative.

Yeah.

And of course, I can't think about the Pope without thinking about that movie.

Which one?

Euro trip.

If you can think about anything other.

Well, I guess if you're like Catholic, you would think about other things, but they've elected a new Pope.

Yeah, that's not what I was thinking of, but that is...

They have elected Pope.

It's up there for me.

I think of

not some great things.

Really?

Oh, of course, of course.

I think of Spotlight.

I think of the keepers on Netflix.

Yeah.

I think of this.

This is a positive one.

That sketch on SNL with Kevin Hart playing the new Pope.

Yes.

That's a great one.

That's a good one.

That's positive.

Oh, yeah.

There's kind of like, I feel like the F-Slar is just sort of like the tip of the iceberg for the Pope and his, you know, issues.

Yeah.

So do better, Pope.

DBP.

DBP.

DBP.

So we've got a great show, as we stated, and as I feel is obvious.

It's evident at this point.

Before we get into the great show that stated, there's something that we want to talk about.

I want to talk about what's going on in the world, in Israel, in Gaza, because there's a lot on social media and online and a lot that happened over the weekend.

And I kind of want to talk about all of it because I do feel like we've been vocal pro-Israel voices like throughout this entire war.

And right now, Israel is carrying out a military operation in Rafah, which is a heavily populated, densely populated area.

They evacuated almost a million people into a safe zone so they could carry out their operation.

And on Sunday, they targeted two Hamas leaders in like a very precise military strike.

And they hit their target, but then, and the investigation is still ongoing, but then shrapnel from...

that hit a munitions warehouse, a Humas humitions warehouse, that then started a fire in one of the camps where refugees

a safe zone where people were living and was expected to be safe.

And many people died in the fire.

Terrible, like really just upsetting, awful.

Like nobody wants that.

Nobody wants to see that.

Like that's not the desired outcome for anybody, not for Israel.

Like our, it's, it's so upsetting to see.

Yeah, especially because I feel like people who like are involved in this war and who support Israel like have been really trying to show people like the lengths that Israel goes to to avoid things like this.

Like civilian casualties are not a goal of Israel's.

It's really just

them trying to defend themselves and the ultimate goal for everyone, like Palestinians included, is to get rid of Hamas.

Like that benefits everyone in the region.

So when something like this happens, of course, social media plays such like a crazy part in spreading information and mostly

misinformation.

But I feel like as long supporters of Israel, we're always sharing the lengths that they go to to avoid things like this.

Like that's not, like you said, a desired outcome for for Israel, for Israelis, for the idea, for Palestinians, for anyone.

For anyone.

And

so quickly, people are posting online, like Israel bombed a humanitarian camp, like a UN safe zone.

And that's not what happened.

And it's spread this like blood libel around the world that this was like an intentional hit by Israel.

And what happened?

And if you're seeing this like message on social media, it's like all eyes.

So that's like what's what this is regarding.

Right.

And that's what it's been distilled down to.

And I want to talk about everyone posting that.

But like, first, the immediate lie that's being told is that Israel did this intentionally.

Like, no, Israel targeted legitimate

military targets, terrorists, well within international law.

It was over a mile away.

But because Hamas keeps their weapons and their people so entrenched in civilian populations and amongst innocent civilians, their weapon munition shouldn't be that close to a safe zone.

Yeah.

So,

per usual, like there's one common enemy here, and it's Hamas.

And Hamas doesn't care about civilian casualties on their own side.

They don't care, obviously, they intend for civilian casualties when they go into Israel.

And it's just a really terrible situation.

And now, this lie is being perpetuated even further.

You know, Israel is committing genocide, Israel's killing babies, which Israel does not do, and that is not the intention of Israel.

They are in Gaza trying to get back the hostages that were stolen stolen from their beds on October 7th.

I don't know why.

Bodies of dead hostages have been recovered in Rafah.

That's why we're there.

They're starting the military operation in Rafah.

They've recovered seven hostage bodies.

It's known that there are a lot of hostages who are being held there, and they are there to extract them.

If Hamas would turn over the hostages, this war could end, but they don't.

So Israel has to go and get them.

They're not there for no reason.

And it's so frustrating.

And so, seeing people, you know, using this as a way to just like smear Israel and the military per usual and it's usually it's the same folks as usual who are doing it but now it's like reached this level where I feel like people who don't know a lot about what's going on and don't speak on it because they don't know feel like they have to because everybody else is posting the same thing and so now everybody's posting this all eyes on rafa graphic.

And I think for a lot of people who haven't said anything, they saw what happened on Sunday and it's, you know, it's terrible on all counts.

And they want to show that they care.

And so they post this like with no context, without knowing what it means.

And I think it's one of the few graphics that's not calling for the express genocide of the Jews, not from the river to the sea.

So it feels like a safe thing to post.

But they have no idea what they're saying and what it means and how it contributes to this lie against Israel.

And I just feel like all of these people who are so quick to assume the worst about the IDF and

like don't realize like the lengths that they go to to make sure things like to try and make sure that things like this don't happen but it's an it's an impossible warfare situation this urban warfare where the usually when two armies fight against each other like they fight on a battlefield right but Hamas has made that impossible they're soldiers dressing civilian clothes they they hide weapons under children's beds.

Like this is not normal warfare.

Like Israel is in an impossible situation fighting for their life, fighting for their life.

And so I think I saw a message.

Someone was like, are you going to say anything?

Like actual beheaded babies and people burned alive.

I'm like, what do you mean actual?

Like someone who sends that is not a serious person because what do you mean actual?

As if October 7th, that's not what happened.

It's also really, I think, like difficult to talk about because, you know, it's happening so far away.

And like, you know, you, you get.

used to like having these conversations and it feels so weird because like we're talking about human beings like these are real people and I think like what people really don't understand especially people who are like critical of Israel and the Jewish people is is like such a core um

value in judaism is like the preservation and the celebration of life like there's like that quote from the talmud that's like to save a life is to save a thousand so i think when people um

i think when people like don't really understand and they just kind of believe everything that they read it kind of paints this brush where it's like Jewish people, supporters of Israel, people in Israel, like, don't give a fuck about who lives or who dies in Palestine.

And like, that couldn't be further from the truth.

And civilian casualties in Israel has had many and Palestine has had, they're terrible.

And they're of equal value.

And I think to assume that anyone who doesn't see both

civilians as equally valuable, like that's wrong.

And that's just not where.

I know.

And that's, and that's what's so crazy about social media is you become so desensitized and you're like talking about, you've seen people referring to human beings like that.

And it's wrong.

And it makes it difficult because like we feel so staunchly defensive of Israel and it makes it really difficult to talk about because these are human beings.

Like these are people who've passed passed away.

And it's really sad, no matter who it is.

And then there's this other added element, like you said, where it's like Israel and the Jewish people feel like we're, you know, defending our right to exist, right?

Yeah, no, that's what it is.

Hamas has expressly called for genocide against the Jews.

Israel has never, not once, goes out of their way to minimize civilian casualties.

Hamas goes out of their way to maximize civilian casualties.

Civilian casualties are the point.

And this is like a cycle in this war in particular, but all wars in Hamas, it's kind of like what they do.

And I think it's important to remember in October,

a

bomb went off in a hospital, Al-Ali hospital, and immediately it came out in Gaza.

In Gaza, it said that the, you know, the hospital is...

The hospital was hit.

No, no, no.

And that it's completely in rubble.

It's like completely gone.

500 people died, and this was in an Israeli airstrike.

And it was everywhere.

The New York Times, like within 30 seconds.

It's impossible to know that information in that short amount of time, but it was everywhere.

It was fact.

And like within two days, it was completely refuted.

One,

the rocket did not come from Israel.

It actually came from within Gaza, from another terrorist organization trying to hit Israel, but it fell short.

It hit the hospital.

500 people did not die.

50 did, which is still horrible.

Like, I hate to even say that, like, it's minimizing, but it also didn't hit the hospital.

The hospital was still standing.

The picture that was going around was fake and it hit the parking lot.

So

within, you have to remember, like, so much of the information that's coming out of Gaza aren't coming from the civilians.

It's coming from, you know, these Hamas-run organizations.

So to take these

lies as facts and run with them and pull them everywhere on social media and report it as fact, it's so damaging, but it's also just a lie.

Yes, it is.

And you have to ask yourself why some people are so quick to believe the lies about Israel, but won't believe or look at the things that are, the hours of footage from October 7th, the things that are

completely factual things that did happen.

There's footage from both sides.

They film themselves and you still won't like look at it and accept that

propaganda.

and now that Israel has to go and fight a war to defend themselves.

I also just want to talk for one second about the influencers

because I think a lot of influencers listen to this podcast and I think I think our audience that we're talking to

are pretty sound of mind in general.

But I do feel like in this moment, a lot of influencers feel pressured to post something.

And as I said, like that all eyes on Rafah graphic like looks safe because they saw something terrible that happened and they want to say something.

And I feel like on October 7th, I really felt so strong, like people need something terrible happened, like speak out.

And people weren't speaking out.

And since then, like my bar has lowered.

And now my bar is like, if you don't know what's going on, like please don't wait in, don't say anything.

And certainly if you didn't say anything when like Jews were murdered in their sleep, raped to death, beaten, taken hostage, like if you didn't, babies, kids, if you didn't say anything then, then like now's not the time

seven months in to say, hey, like I care.

Because

if you're entering the conversation now when things are so complicated, we're in the middle of a war and you were nowhere to be found found on October 8th.

Like, to me, your intentions are quite clear.

And I don't take anything you say seriously because obviously like the death of Jews means nothing to you.

And that's great.

So shut the fuck up.

Right.

And I just want to share something that I saw like an influencer post who clearly just like wanted to get involved.

Show people that she has

watching the news.

And so she posts this graphic.

Even the first three words of this graphic, before you even get into the lies of what it says, it says, Israeli occupation forces.

Okay, let's just talk about, if you see Israeli occupation forces, this person probably didn't even read the graphic, but Israeli occupation forces.

No, it's called the Israeli Defense Forces.

That's the name of the Israeli military, the IDF.

If you are calling it the Israeli occupation force, then you believe that Israel is occupying the land of Israel, that the Jews do not have a right to live in the land of Israel, and that the Jews should be ethnically cleansed from Israel.

That's in the first three words, that's what you just said.

Is that what you mean?

Probably not.

So don't post this shit.

Yeah, no, the social media activism adds like a really crazy layer where people just want to post something because, and it's been, you know, proven that a lot of like the pro-Hamas rhetoric is, you know, um, supplied by like bot farms.

So there's all these like fake accounts sending messages to

the, you know, people with a lot of followers.

And this a girl who's just trying to post her family and her clothes, getting all these messages like, you support beheaded children.

Like it, I can understand how we get to a point influencer culture what do I post to show these people that I don't support that of course

and also it's like you know you could post that and really you're not gonna get a lot of hate because like that's not what our side does is like hate and target and

go off in that way yeah

But if you post anything remotely defensive of Israel, that's what the other side does.

So who really, what sane person wants to invite that into their their little internet world?

No one.

But the thing is, like, you've got to be a little stronger than that at the most and smarter than that at the least.

How about just don't say anything that you don't know about when there are so many global conflicts going on in the world at any given time?

Historically, since you've been on Instagram, you didn't speak on them, hundreds of thousands of people murdered, genocide, slavery, human trafficking, nothing from you.

But when the Jewish state needs to defend itself from the genocidal psychopaths living next door, now you've got a problem.

Yeah.

It feels

futile.

Like when it does.

And like I don't even sometimes like want to talk about it because

it feels like a David and Goliath sort of situation, right?

But you see how many shares are on the one graphic and how many shares are on the other graphic.

It does feel that way.

And I'm starting to feel like it's not my job anymore because

the people who don't believe that israel is really well intended in this and like doing their best for the safety of everyone in the region everyone not just jews there are

millions of other people who live in israel and the surrounding areas and like israel's stability is good for the stability of the realm

they're best for everyone i cannot keep explaining that to you.

Not you toasters, because I feel like you get it.

I just want to say, I don't know when the next time we'll talk about this is, but like I feel like you where it feels futile.

I'm starting to feel like it's not my job to explain everything anymore.

If you keep jumping to the worst conclusions about Israel, you need to ask yourself.

You need to look inward.

Yeah.

If you really are taking the word of a terrorist organization so much more easily than you're believing like the democratic nation in the area that's under a microscope, you need to ask yourself why.

Also, like

we said, it's war and it's horrible and terrible things happen.

And I think, you know, even in this war in particular, there have been incidents where like Israel fucked up and like accidentally killed civilians, which is so, and they have immediately taken, like there's a track record, they've immediately taken responsibility.

Like what happened at that kitchen?

They came out immediately and released a statement being like, shit, like that was a fuck up on our, like we take responsibility.

So when that happened, there is a.

There's a track record.

There's a paper trail of when things have not gone the way that Israel intended, them taking full responsibility.

Do you think that they would intentionally set fire to a humanitarian camp that they have been urging people for months to move?

They took the time to get it.

Do you think they would drop a 2,000 pound bomb?

50,000 people to.

Yeah, and it's like knowing they're under this microscope, knowing that their actions then have consequences for Jews living all around the world.

Do you think that, like, let's just apply logic here.

That's not something they would do.

And if you look at history, and even in the last year since this started, anytime that there has been an accidental loss of civilian life, Israel has immediately taken responsibility for it.

So they haven't done that here because that was not their goal.

They dropped two small strikes on two bombs with Hamas leaders.

There's actually like an intercepted call that was posted.

I think the IDF shared it from like two Hamas militants talking about how it was their weapons and munitions warehouse that.

What are you doing putting thousands of weapons in a humanitarian zone?

You're obviously not a good faith actor.

Well, that's the point.

They're not.

So

to keep operating and people who are like thinking that in some way this is a fair fight, it's not.

So

just be,

you know what's the word i'm looking for not critical but you know everything you see on social media like

also i'm sure people will um bring this up but there's also another like lie that's going on so the president of israel or the prime minister netanyahu he like released a statement when this happened because this is a tragedy and um he was expressing that and he did so in hebrew and he used a word that then english he said this was a terrible the i forget the hebrew word but he used the word that translates to mishap this was a terrible mishap and

some the reporter translated it as mistake this was a terrible mistake and then that all goes all around

you know that israel has claimed that this was a mistake and that they did this and that's not even the word that he used because that's not what happened but then that's out there so people will be like no nothing i hurrah israel said they did it israel said they did it Israel did not do it and nor did they say that they do it and they and the investigation is still ongoing because like these things take time to suss out what exactly happened Yeah, I just think it's really hard to talk about

when we feel so strongly and

in support of like Israel's right to exist and their right to defend themselves.

But then at the end of the day, like, you know,

at the hands of Hamas, like so many people have died, Israelis and Palestinians.

And if at the end of the day, you aren't laying blame on the terrorist group in the region, like you obviously have some stronger issues inside that you need to work on.

But like, it's just so sad, you know?

It is so sad.

It keeps coming back to this.

Even with the aid, like when aid is donated, Hamas seizes it.

They will, they shoot people.

There are videos, they shoot people who run up to the trucks and try to get water themselves.

And so, when you're donating to some of these organizations, you are literally donating to the terrorists.

And the best way to help them is to help eradicate the terrorist organization in the region.

And I think like a criticism that I've seen of myself and the TOSA is like, we attack anyone who supports Israel.

And that just, I mean, excuse me, who

supports Palestine and Palestinian lives and that couldn't be further from the truth.

And so I think what Jackie just said is so important.

I'm not mad that you want to raise money for civilians in Palestine.

We all do.

There is a 0% chance that the money you raised actually makes its way into the hands of an innocent Palestinian civilian.

Hamas has so embedded themselves in every, the Gaza Ministry of Health.

That's Hamas.

They've embedded themselves into

the UN.

Red Cross hasn't visited any.

The hostage bodies were living in a UN teacher.

We're living in a UN Refugee Association building.

Like, they are everywhere.

And I can understand seeing a video, a horrible video,

and your reflex is to help, and you're over here, and what can I do?

And I want to send money, and that makes you feel good.

But, like, it's the odds of that money making it more harm because you are like arming and feeding terrorists so that they can continue to do what they do, which is kill people.

And there are, you know, civilians in palestine like starving and they have no water and and i think people are immediately you know blame israel for that but if you knew the hundreds of trucks that enter gaza every every day zero of it makes zero of the aid zero of the money zero of the water zero of the food makes it to the actual civilians who are starving yeah so that's where i think the criticism comes from it's not this lack of empathy or lack of care for the people living there like they're human beings yeah

but i think when you, there's a problem

and I think a lot of people are misdiagnosing the problem.

Yeah, exactly.

And it's actually going to exacerbate the problem.

I think that Bill Maher went on the view and did like a really, really good job of explaining it.

I like it was one of my favorite interviews.

And

if you're looking for more, you know, things to watch, I liked that a lot.

Yeah.

So as always, like it's hard to have these conversations because it's so personal to Jackie and I.

And we definitely feel this like responsibility.

But at the end of the day, like that, the point of the show, this is supposed to be joyous.

And we're not supposed to be talking about these terrible, you know, tragedies going on in the world.

And so the goal of this show has and always will be to bring light and joy and positivity.

And we will continue to do that.

But I think today in particular, like felt especially, you know.

like an obligation almost an obligation because I think a lot of like a lot of well-meaning people are like wait what happened and and

why aren't the girls talking about it?

So just wanted to

touch on it.

It's hard to then pivot.

I know.

But that is what we do.

Yeah.

And so we shall.

Okay.

And I guess without further ado.

I guess.

There's no good way to do it.

But that's sort of...

What we do here.

Dark, light.

Like, we're just here to bring joy.

So let's just get this really uncomfortable segue over with.

Yes.

And perhaps.

And go into the fast side stories or is there anything else you wanted to catch us up on?

Oh, was there anything else about

from TD, Turdy's Day?

I went for a run.

Mazzle.

Thank you so much.

It wasn't my best.

I'm starting a 12-week running like program.

So it was day one.

And so it's kind of like resetting.

It was like two-minute running, one-minute walking, which like that's old turdy.

Like that's, you know.

Do you find it hard to hold yourself back?

No, actually, because I took a two-week break from running, and it's crazy how when you don't run, like, you stop becoming a runner.

Like, I was seriously panting out of breath.

I thought I was going to throw up.

Damn.

Yeah.

You have any sourdough yesterday?

People are equating like your journey with sourdough and my journey with running, like, our two like annoying personalities.

But I just want to say, and a lot, I just, I want to say something.

Like, I see the, I see the comments, people are like, Turtle did such a good job of pretending she cares.

Like, first of all, eat my ass.

Like, I love my sister.

And yes, even when she talks about things that bore me to tears, like, I still care.

I'm just like not like, you know, peppering her with questions.

And with sourdough, like, I actually care.

You think I don't care about bread?

I don't feel that you were pretending to care.

And I can sometimes feel when you are pretending, but I think it's more so like

it's not about what I'm doing.

I don't know if there'd be anything that I could be like doing that you're not doing that you would care so deeply about.

I think it's more so like, you know, just turdy cares about turdy things more than non-turdy things.

But I resent it especially with the sourdough because I feel like I'm actually into the sourdough conversation.

Like I love bread.

I felt like yesterday you were into the conversation.

You were peppering me with questions.

Yeah.

And also like when you sent me that picture of your bread, like it was sick.

Like it was sick.

So the excitement was palpable.

Yeah.

Oh my god, do you know what something I've been saying recently that I don't know where I picked it up from, but I need to stop?

Do you notice it?

What?

Sick?

Let's go.

Like I've mostly in text messages.

Like, first of all, when I was in my golf lesson, every time I like did a good shot, I was like, let's go.

You know where you probably got it from?

Where?

Going to the next game.

Actually, maybe.

Because when you sent that picture of your bread, you were like, I did it.

I was like, let's go.

And then also, I've been texting with Dog Friendly Living about like Romeo's journey.

And she's sending updates, we're sending updates.

And every time there's a positive update, I'm like, let's go.

There's worse things to say than that.

I know, but it's like, am I, where's my penis?

Also, thinking of, speaking of things that we say, I've been meaning to mention how, you know, how we've been saying all's to say.

You know, in Fortnite, she says the correct phrase, which is, all of that to say.

Well, okay, you're totally off, like, pitch-wise, but it's all of this to say.

That's what she says.

Right, that's the phrase.

No, I feel like the phrase, we're saying the phrase, right?

All's to say.

No, I think the point is we're not.

Really?

Yeah.

All of this to say.

Yeah, I guess, I guess.

It's just too many syllables.

Too many words.

We respect brevity here.

And we respect bread.

We respect toast.

T-O-A-S-T.

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Our first story about another singer.

Not me.

Me?

No.

J-Lo's deal for a $1 million per show Las Vegas residency is in jeopardy as her new album and concert tour are flopping.

JLo was recently in talks for a $90 million Las Vegas residency, but the blockbuster deal now looks shaky at best as her new album and upcoming concert tour are flopping badly, the Post has learned.

The embattled Pop Diva, whose headline grabbing marriage to Ben Affleck is reportedly crumbling, recently had been in talks with MGM Grand on a guaranteed $1 million show for 90 dates starting next year, a source closed.

Wow, that's $90 million.

Yeah.

But casino executives have lately grown skittish over abysmal ticket sales for her first tour in five years following the release of her This Is Me Now album in February, with poor demand having forced the cancellation of seven shows this summer.

Yikes.

Oh my God.

We didn't even, I didn't even hear that update.

Seven shows have been canceled.

Yeah, and then rival Casino Resorts World upped the bidding for J-Lo to $875,000 per show in partnership with AEG soon after.

MGM and Live Nation then swooped in with an $1 million per show offer for J-Lo.

But buyer's remorse has lately set in.

A source said, MGM is watching her not doing well on the road.

They are very nervous.

It's pretty rare you have a poor tour and then go to Vegas.

Okay, I do agree with that.

However, I feel like we've been talking so much about J-Lo's career and like how she's at this inflection point.

And I think like whoever told her to release an album and then go on tour for that album, like seriously, she'd be fired.

It's like, read the room.

But I don't know if that necessarily means that she wouldn't have a successful residency.

First of all, when you think about the rooms for that residence, residencies take place in, they're much smaller.

It's not arenas.

And she's going on an arena tour, which is 20,000 people.

A Vegas residency is like...

two to three thousand people.

Like Adele, the theater wasn't that big.

Gaga wasn't that big.

So it's like, because it takes place in a hotel.

So it's smaller venues, first of all.

Second of all, I think

if I think if her tour failing tells us anything, it's like maybe she's ready for a residency.

Do you know what I mean?

But it definitely like puts a smell on things.

And I just want $90 million.

Sh-Lo and Vegas, like handshaking emoji.

Perfect.

That's like the vibe of music you want to hear when you're in Vegas.

Like, she is so Vegas.

That's where she's at in her career.

She has so many hits.

And I think that's.

Her also the vibe of her show is so Vegas.

Like lights, glitter, dishes.

We saw the Super Bowl teaser.

That's what it's going to be.

So I think this is a great idea at any time.

However, like I, and I don't think that this will overall be affected, but like she's going out on tour, she's coming to your city and it's flopping still.

Like it just, it makes her being in Vegas less attractive to like the concert goer because it's like she's not in a great moment right now.

But I still think like if she does her residency, like it'll get amazing, if she does it well, which she will, it will get amazing reviews.

People will go, it will be really good.

But I do think that like her doing a week sauce tour, an album right before

makes things less exciting.

It's also really crazy to do a worldwide arena tour back to back with a residency.

Like that's not really what you do.

There's even if you're like at the top of your game like that's a lot of demand, you know, there's a lot of tickets to sell.

And JLo's not at the top of her game, but I think what the major takeaway from people were these with these like two movie slash documentaries that she released on Prime that people really like dragged her for was that like she kind of lives in her own world and like any sort of

any person around her, they're very much like coddling her.

I don't think she really even knows at this point like what the vibes are out there when it comes to like her public perception.

I think people around her like protect her, which is good, but it can get you into, you know,

bad spots like selling arenas and nobody's buying tickets and you're canceling shows.

Yeah, that's it's also really crazy that she just released a documentary and like she made a whole thing about how she had to finance her own movies and then Amazon.

And she bet on herself and like Amazon, like the person who wrote J-Lo a check for Prime Video, who put out a documentary called The Greatest Love Story Ever Told.

And then one month later, she's getting divorced.

Like, where's the accountability?

Like, did somebody get fired for that?

Hmm.

I don't think so.

I just, I think J-Lo is a lover.

She loves hard.

And I think it's actually on brand for her to like have such a high love story.

She never says forever.

No, and she actually says in her documentary, she's been married four times, like she loves being married.

She used to be really afraid of being alone.

Like that's the type of honesty like I actually really appreciate.

I felt like her documentaries though, like, and that's what people's like takeaway was, was like, it was so not real.

And you know what would be an actually good documentary?

Like right now you're like having this moment you're kind of at like a rock bottom of your career and then you're gonna take on this Vegas residency and you're gonna put your whole fucking pussy into it you're gonna train you're gonna work hard very much like you know how Beyonce did like all the behind the scenes of like what she did for Netflix what are you about to say you know what documentary that is

halftime bet it all on blonde Erica Jane oh the Phoenix rising from the ashes taking her talents to Vegas starting again on her own like that's a documentary worth making like J-Lo in this sort of

career low, everyone's saying that she's a little bit more.

Everybody loves a comeback story.

And she's not even a bad person.

She just dropped

two bashies to back documentaries.

It's like enough documentaries.

And then she also had halftime on Netflix.

It's like, seriously, enough.

First of all, she's not even that low, I just want to say.

Like, she's still J-Lo.

Second of all, you know what I'm saying?

I don't know.

I think she's pretty low.

You know what it's also reminding me of?

What?

Like, how Adele's Vegas residency got a little smelly before the kickoff with the pool and the campus.

Yeah, but it was never about demand.

No, but like, still, people,

there was a bad taste, and she completely superseded the taste.

Yes, different issue, different issue, but there was a worse issue.

It was a smelliness.

Yeah, but Jayla's issue is way worse, like people not wanting to come.

That's the baseline.

Like, and that was Adele, yeah, say what you want, but people were so mad because they wanted to go so badly.

It's like the opposite.

No, I know, not the same issue, but a little bit of like not coming in on the best environment.

I do feel like, you know, obviously hindsight's 2020, and this is like an annoying thing of me to say, but she never should have released this most recent album.

She never should have released those two prime video documentaries because like the jokes that were made about her from like two clips that went viral, like I think really did damage, especially with a younger audience.

And had she just like chilled and then announced his Vegas residency, she'd be raking in $90 million.

People would be going for sure and they would be talking about.

her insane showmanship.

That's what she's known for, the dancing, the outfits, the vocals.

Like she can put on a show and that's what she's best known for.

So it's not helpful of me to say this, but those documentaries really did badly for her.

And the new music and the flop of the album really showed like people aren't interested in hearing new J-Lo music.

They're just interested in the hits.

And you can have a fabulous career on the hits.

Celine Diane.

Celine Diane didn't release new music for like a big chunk of time.

And then she went through like great personal tragedy.

And of course, inspiration struck.

And speaking of documentaries in Celine Diane, I am very much looking forward to that documentary.

Yeah, when she's doing it.

Apparently she is, I think in June, which is like kind of far away.

But she's too.

She's speaking her truth.

Oh.

Oh, wow.

Yeah, yeah May is only 30 days past the Pemeribo oh no May's 31 I got another day of the month that's exciting but

that's a documentary I'm looking forward to yeah

I'm not in my documentary mode right now I'm really in my reality TV mode right now

yeah and you're in your historical movies mode I'm in my based on true story mode learning something new

yeah I think the movie I actually wanted to watch next which I have seen but like a million years ago is Pearl Harbor also because Ben and i were saying how like you know

i'm i'm pretty caught up on like world events around world war ii but i'm not really sure how japan was involved you know like i know hitler i know all of that but like question mark and not to sound so stupid but like for many many years i thought like pearl harbor was world war one

so i definitely i have some work to do

it's well it is two different theaters in the war like you are no the european front front and back at this point but but the pacific theater which which also I know less of but every time I like read something or watch something about that time

it was wild I mean like the book the rape of Nanking that's what I was gonna bring up too every time you bring up that book I'm like you know what I really need to learn more yeah and then I also read a historical fiction you know romance novel set in World War II China because it was occupied by a lot of different forces and then eventually Japan in the city that they were in.

It's very big territory.

The book was called The Last Rose of Shanghai.

I would recommend it if you want to learn more in a less serious capacity.

It was a love story about a German Jew who fled to China and fell in love with a Chinese woman.

It's very sweet.

Yeah.

And then, yeah, Pearl Harbor.

Pearl Harbor.

So I think that's maybe what I'll watch this weekend or tonight, depending on how much time I have.

That's a nice idea.

Yeah, I'm kind of loving it.

And that's also just like a very, that's a movie that launched A Thousand Careers, Ben Affleck.

A thousand ships, literally.

Literally.

Are you ready for our next story?

Yeah.

Some romance news that tickled my fancy.

What?

Mary Kate Olson and Sean Avery sparked dating rumors after reuniting in the Hamptons over Memorial Day weekend.

So the headline says, this might be a case for the Olson and the Olson Mystery Agency.

I read that wrong.

Olson and Olson Mystery Agency.

Okay.

They'll have any crime solved by dinner time.

Dinner time.

Mary Kate Olsen and Sean Avery sparked dating rumors after reuniting in the Hamptons over Memorial Day weekend.

Reuniting.

Did they used to date?

So they, yeah, they were coupled up in 2007.

That's a really long time ago, though.

So it's kind of giving me like, we used to date, didn't work out, now we're friends, because then they were also spotted hanging with Andy Cohen that day.

And so I feel like it might not be romantic.

It might be friendship.

So is this the twin who just got divorced from that old man

spotted with Luann?

Luann's man, yeah.

Even though that allegedly has fizzled, I refuse to believe it.

No, because that's a really like wrong, you know, it's right person, wrong time.

What if I just like lived in a world where I believe that Luann and Olivier are still together?

Like, it would never actually affect me.

I don't know them.

I would never, like, why can't I just choose to believe that they're in love?

Why can't you just create your own joy?

Create my own reality.

Yeah, like it, it literally makes no difference.

And they're truly perfect for one another.

I don't know how Luann fumbled the ball on that because, like, that, that was her moment.

Like, that was it.

It was.

But now Mary Kate's having her moment.

So she was going into her, the Rose store in Amagansett this weekend.

Sean Avery was with her.

Nothing they were doing looked romantic other than the fact that they're two eligible single people who at one point.

And they used to date.

Right.

I love this.

Like I need these two to date.

And I just don't know seriously how you can be sexually attracted to Olivier and Sean.

Like the two could not be more different.

But I love

this pairing.

Like I'm so ready for the MK and A sisters to like be back in the fold of pop culture.

Like I feel like they were both really settled for a while, business booming, you know, relationships very stable.

And now like, yeah, date the hot hockey player.

Like, love that.

Love that.

Did you see the pictures?

Yeah, I'm obsessed.

He's so hot.

Yeah, he is.

And I've seen him on Watch Rabbit and I was like, he's got personality for days.

Yeah, he's like best friends with Andy.

And I remember reading in one of Andy's books, how they became friends was like kind of weird.

There was like a, oh.

They were literally in like the same room once.

They didn't even know each other.

And then it was like being reported that Sean Avery was gay and he was dating Andy.

And it was just like, Andy and him literally became like best friends from that.

So cute.

Yeah.

I love this.

I really hope that they're dating.

I love them to some.

And there's no better way to like seriously get back in an ex than the next person you date being like a long-lost love of yours.

Very Morgan Stewart McGraw-coded.

Very like, I never got over him.

You meant nothing to me.

No, literally, like, you're irrelevant.

You know,

it's very much like Taylor Swift going back to Maddie Healy.

Yeah, that's definitely a blow.

To who?

Joe.

Oh, duh.

Like, was thinking about him the whole time.

Right.

No, it makes you question, like, seriously, the last X amount of years.

It's a power move.

Everyone should do it, even if they don't like that person.

Just like for a minute, just if you really hate your ex.

Yeah, I agree.

Also, speaking of the Hamptons, girly swirly live tour this summer, West Hampton Beach Performing Arts Center comes to our girls.

It's not cool of you to like promote a show that has no tickets left.

Like there's none.

Well,

we are excited to see those of you who are coming.

There are like 11 tickets left to the August 1st and 2nd shows at the Beacon Theater, but like that was when I checked yesterday.

I don't know.

Like there may be seven left.

I don't know.

Like we don't even need to promote it because we're so in demand.

Yeah.

So anyways,

I'm gonna really quickly, I've like one of the biggest wedgies and it's like cutting off the circulation of my labia.

I'm just gonna quickly hop off camera, pick my wedgie, but feel free to read the next story, okay?

Hop away.

I'm not gonna read the next story yet because it's so personal to both you and I that I need my girly's full attention, but I also respect you doing what you have to do because seriously, is there a worse feeling?

I do not think so.

She's back.

No worries.

How do you feel?

Better?

A little bit.

Like,

it's just, there's a lot going on down there between the bodysuit, you know.

Yeah.

Well, our next story is for you and I, as I said, because it's a celebrity.

It's a celebrity admitting to their Ozempic usage.

Who?

And it's one of my favorite people.

I could give you guesses, but I.

And we already spoke about Kelly.

Okay, one of of my favorite reality stars.

I could give a big clue.

One of the few people to be on two Bravo shows, and it's not Paige.

That's what I was thinking.

I'm like, Paige is on a Zen book.

Who?

Caroline Stanberry.

Oh.

Yeah, my queen.

So the Real Housers of Dubari, Dubai star, Caroline.

Dubai Stanbury says.

I feel like I've had a lot of verbal blunders in this episode.

Just skirt past, okay?

I have also not said anything, and I feel like I deserve like some sort of award.

You really do.

But you've understood, as long as I'm like decipherable,

and you know what I'm saying, I think it's okay.

I think so too.

But Real House Eyes of Due Dubai star, Caroline Stanberry, says she used Ozempic to lose weight.

So she's speaking out about her use of Ozempic.

She said in a recent episode of her podcast that she used Ozempic to lose weight during a midlife crisis.

crisis she experienced at 45.

In a video posted from the episode on Instagram, she said, after 40, we all know it's very, very hard to lose weight, but I met so many 40-year-old women going, How have you done it?

And I don't want to lie to you, I used Ozempic, which I think is one of the best tools if you're able to use it.

What did Kate Moss say?

Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels.

There's something to be said for that.

Like, just love the casualty in which I can't wait to get to a point where it's like not this, like, grand admission.

It's just like, I had a headache, I took Advil, I gained some weight, I took Ozempic.

Like, I'm looking forward to that day.

But people like Caroline just being like super casual and chill about it.

We love.

Right.

And I also think Ozempic, like the

perception and dialogue about Ozempic, like has come so far, even in the last six months, in the last year.

And originally it was like, this is only for diabetes people.

You're taking it away from someone who needs it.

And now like most people who have obesity or are severely overweight, like everyone's okay with them taking it.

But I do think the last frontier of this conversation.

are the people who are taking it to lose the last 10, 15 pounds, to become the person that they either were in the past or that they want to be or whatever it is.

People have reasons for gaining a couple pounds and having a really hard time losing them.

And so when Dr.

Geezy and I did the episode, she talked a lot about that because what she like does research on, she has like a study going on for people who need to lose like 10 to 15 pounds, which obviously like wasn't the intended goal with Ozempic.

It was people who really needed to lose like 40 or more pounds.

But she's doing a study on like the health indications for just losing 10 pounds, like not.

not significant, not life-changing weight.

And especially for older women, your risk of like cardiovascular issues, she was saying, goes down.

She talked about it on the Patreon, if you guys want to go listen to it.

That's like something she was really doing a lot of work and research on.

And she said there were so many health benefits for older women just losing 10 pounds, which like when people are like, you need to Zenbit to lose 10 pounds, it's not for you.

Well, maybe it could be down the line when it becomes more, hopefully accessible and affordable for everyone.

And I thought it was really interesting.

You would think 10 pounds is like 10 pounds, like who cares?

But the research that she was doing showed like enormous like life-changing health benefits, like adding years to your life.

Yeah.

And I think the health benefits are so great and i feel like some people might need to hear that in order to be okay with people taking ozempic like at that size but i think also it completely changes your life to like lose that last 10 or 15 pounds whether it's from gaining weight like from being pregnant or just you know getting to it and aging your life where like you can't lose that weight and i feel like people who want to be mad at ozempic usage have now like taken all their ire out on like those celebrities who are thin and are staying thin because they're using ozempic and i think that actually Caroline sharing this is is different from the other people who have shared and is kind of greenlighting people to use it in a way so that they can actually feel their best and live their best.

And that changes your life.

Yeah.

Like of course a dramatic weight loss changes your life, but like

finally losing like that weight that's been like nagging you all those years,

you haven't had a newly sound life.

Everyone deserves that.

Yeah, there's like eight different conversations going on when it comes to Ozempic.

I feel like the main one that's finally being had more, more, and I think the most important one is like the one that was had between like Whoopi Goldberg and Kelly Clarkson on the Kelly Clarkson show.

Like just years and years of severe weight gain that like you seriously get like the, you know, acknowledging obesity as a disease and not just like, stop eating.

Shame blaming the weight loss revolution.

Exactly.

So I feel like that's the most important conversation when it comes to Ozembic.

And it's finally being had in like a way that's just so real.

And like people like Kelly just doing it in a way like, and Whoopi Goldberg doing it in a way that's so relatable, I feel like is so important.

And then, you know, people like Caroline Stanberry feeling comfortable to share and like just being so casual about it.

That's also another conversation to be had.

So I definitely feel like a difference has been made in like how we're talking about it.

I still, I think we still have a lot to do.

And I will say this a thousand times, like people with eating disorders in the eating disorders community like need to just take themselves out of the conversation permanently because it's not about you and you're not the only people who have weight issues.

There are other weight issues and those are valid too.

They're just different than yours.

So I think we've made great progress.

Yes, I agree.

And am I wrong to think that the shortages have gotten better?

Like it seems like the drug is more accessible these days than it was, you know, six months ago

when people couldn't get it.

Now the real issue for a lot of people is the affordability of it.

It's not covered by insurance, and that's a huge problem because people aren't having problems getting prescriptions.

They're not having problems getting their prescriptions filled.

They're having problems getting their insurance to cover it.

And if not, it's $1,000 a month.

Right.

And insurance only covers it if you have diabetes, correct?

Or if your blood levels, your blood work comes back at a level that it's concerning.

Yes.

And I know people who,

A, can't get it covered, even though they are severely obese and have bad blood work.

Like they still don't have that diet.

Like, it's like they're waiting for people to get diagnosed with diabetes before they want to help them.

It's such a shame because people who are severely overweight are on their way to having diabetes.

So why don't we just help them now instead of in a year?

Right.

But yeah, it's the pricing.

And it's, and people go to crazy lengths.

And that's what's so annoying.

And that's what Dr.

Geezy was saying she was like i see on tick tock like people like selling like ozempic whatever like dupes it's so dangerous like and some of these med spas like going to like these

rancid like fake compound pharmacies selling fake things and you're injecting that so the lack of accessibility and the lack of affordability is making people go crazy and then you hear woman dies well she wasn't actually taking ozempic she was you know forced to go like to some back alley med spa and get some shit injected in her ass like that's where it's, they're doing people such a disservice, and that's where it really gets dangerous.

Yeah, so that's the next frontier, I think.

Yes, is tackling like the fact that insurance companies don't cover it.

Either insurance not covering it or the price of the drug, because really, what's the price of the drug?

Right.

A couple of months.

It's $1,000 a month.

Right.

And that's why people literally, if you go to Mexico and like in the pharmacy in the airport, like you can literally buy Ozebic, it's $300 for a month, which is still insane, but it's a quarter of the price.

So people are like doing, you know, everything they can.

Yeah.

Okay.

Well, my queen stays winning.

Stays winning.

Are you ready?

Oh, speaking of reality TV in London, I told you this weekend that I started watching.

You told me that you hit an all-time low.

I did because you guys know I love like, I actually really like trash reality TV.

I like don't know what it is about me.

I started watching Selling London.

I guess they brought like selling Sunset to London and I figured it's made for me.

It was okay, it was interesting to see like the actual real estate, though, because it's a mix of like historical uh structures, but then the interior is like super modern.

And I liked learning about like the different neighborhoods, like literally, they're selling a house in Belgravia, like the show, hello, yeah, yeah, yeah.

What are they gonna sell like downtown Abbey next?

Right, right, right.

So, that was interesting.

I guess that was interesting.

I don't know if I'll go back, but if I like, I wanted something mindless, so that's what I watched.

And in the absence of Ladies of London, all's to say,

all's to say, the greatest show.

We weren't ready as a society.

No, that's what we get.

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Now, I'm so looking forward to what this Huggies-inspired story could possibly be.

So as stated, the Huggies diapers at the moment have Simba on them.

And Simba's really been in the news because of Northwest.

Yes, yes.

And something that we talked about yesterday that needed to be a story in order to be cleared up is you know the TikTok of the mom talking about how she took her daughter to the audition.

There were three girls up for the role.

Kim Kardashian walked into the room with Northwest and all of a sudden the audition process was over.

That was not true.

So the mom went on TikTok and made like another video talking to the camera.

People said they wanted to hear her daughter singing.

So she said, my daughter's been cats, an off-Broadway rendition of Aristocats.

And here she is, and it's a cat.

And she made up the whole thing.

You're fucking lying.

No, and now that I think about it.

Why?

Yeah, why the fuck would Kim go to an audition?

That's like the whole point of nepotism is like, you don't have to?

You don't have to.

And the way she was talking in that video, like I kind of forgot about it because I was more interested in what she was saying, but I'm pretty sure the whole thing was a joke.

Right, right.

I kind of love that.

No, I kind of love it.

It's such a good reminder that just because someone says something, like that doesn't make it true.

Oh, on TikTok, but like, why did we just believe this person?

Yeah, like proof, receipts, proof, timeline.

Nothing.

Yeah, no, I think it really speaks to like wildfire, how that's how things work on the internet.

And then it really, and it's, and it's like funny and whatever, but like it did send a lot of hate the way of a young girl.

Like it's like, it's not funny.

Yeah, but I think the hate was already

there.

And I, I don't know what this person's intention was, but to me, like it just proved this point.

I actually don't think this person had bad intentions.

I think they thought everyone would understand that it was a joke.

Because also when you think back on the video, the way she was talking was like kind of funny.

Yeah.

And now even as I'm saying, so I watched her whole video and she pants to the cat and the cat is singing like, I just can't wait to be king or whatever.

So all to say, like, she didn't actually have a child that went through the audition process.

Like, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't know if you can see that.

It's just like

it's such a wild thing.

Oh, I just can't wait to be king.

Oh, flop.

Yeah.

And also, like, why would Kim walk with North into the audition room at the same time that like the common people are auditioning?

No, the whole point of nepotism is like you don't go through those sort of, you know,

common practices.

Like the director comes to you.

And honestly, this is a really teachable moment.

Now, I fell for it.

I took her at her word.

However, like my reaction, I don't think was the intended reaction of like ire towards the situation.

So I don't feel like totally gotten, but I do, I did get got by just believing her because like, that's what you do.

You just believe people.

So like, why wouldn't we?

I don't want to become more cynical.

I know.

But I do think you have to be more critical.

You have to think critically.

But like, who's going to watch that video and be like, she's lying?

No, like, who's going to lie about that?

Like, it's so fucking random.

I know, but I think it proves an important point.

Of course.

That's kind of the theme of today's episode with the Pope AI generated puffer.

Right.

Bringing it back.

It reminds me of when Tanya Zuckerbrot was like in that.

Oh my God.

That feels like a factor.

That feels like six years ago.

Was that during COVID?

Yeah, I think so.

So maybe, yeah, like five years ago.

People were saying like her products were giving them miscarriages and then like literally it was a lie.

So yeah, the person who went after her, Emily Gallis, was just like posting what people were saying.

Like people would message her and be like, X Factor gave me blah, blah, blah.

Diarrhea.

And so one person, like as an experiment, sent into her like F factor made me have a miscarriage.

And she immediately posted it without verifying anything.

And then the person who sent it in was like, I sent that in.

It's not true.

And it just goes to show you how you cannot believe what people just send you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, I mean, that's just, I think, a whole conversation about Instagram journalism.

Yeah.

But I think it just proves the same point of like, people can just say anything.

And like,

just because you say it doesn't mean it's true.

Well, and that reminds me of things I've been wanting to say.

I am a model.

But it is true.

I know.

That's why I said it.

Yeah.

But no, that's like not proof.

You have to say an untruth.

Like someone messaged me recently about like some company.

They're like, the CEO is a bad bad guy.

No proof, no nothing.

What?

Right.

What?

I don't know you either.

Well, that's also then a conversation about labels.

Like, we're so crazy.

Like, he's

whatever.

Like, and then those words end up losing their meaning, and it's actually really damaging.

But that's also another conversation about how we abuse language.

Yeah.

Oh, oh, for sure.

But it's like you could just say something about someone.

And I guess because we're just, you know, believing, and that's a good quality to have.

Belief.

Like to be not naive, but just like not so cynical.

I don't know, but people, they're taking advantage.

Yeah.

But I don't know if that was what her intention was here.

I know, I think she was trying to be funny, and I think she like fell down a slippery slope.

Such a niche brand of humor for sure.

And anyways, went over my head.

People owe North an apology.

They do.

Also, like, imagine Kim watching that when it first came out, not knowing that this woman, like, was playing a prank and then being like, you're a fucking liar.

but how can she even go and say that this person's liar because everyone would be like you're maligning someone whose daughter was working you're attacking a mother yeah like there's no winning yeah no

and me male is a cat it's always the cat

well I don't want to go there are you ready for our fifth and final story which is actually a story that you had told me about um

that is needs discussing what it's little pet news because a woman who paid for her sick dog to be put down is shocked shocked to find out now that the healthy pup is up for adoption and she's not getting it back.

I just want to say to everyone who sent me this story, like, why?

Like, I have just now put to bed, like, my worries and concerns that something like this happened to me.

You guys know when I put Theo down, like, I left the room before, like, the second shot was administered.

I was there for the first shot, but he was still technically alive.

And I was like...

kind of having anxiety about it over the coming weeks.

Part of my grief was like, oh my God, what if literally like somebody took him home and like is keeping him as a sex slave in their dungeon?

Like, and I've just now recently come to terms with the fact that Theo's totally dead, especially because I did not request his remains.

I said, like, whatever you do with them, just do.

I don't need.

So I had like no proof of death, if you will.

Right.

And I guess neither did this woman because she was shocked to discover that her sick dog that she took to be euthanized was back at the shelter and up for adoption a year later.

She was heartbroken when she was told that the most humane thing she could do for her beloved pet was to put him down.

She said she paid $450 to adopt her pup from the Lost Dog and Cat Rescue Foundation in 2022.

She was almost always by his side, the dog, but then she discovered something was wrong.

Blood tests showed that he had a liver problem, but medications failed to lead to any improvements.

The dog's vet, the clinic's lead doctor, and animal emergency room vet eventually all agreed that the poor pup's symptoms pointed to severe neurological problem.

She said that she was told that further tests would cost $12,000, but would only provide a very slim chance of finding out what's wrong, an even smaller chance of it being something that doctors could fix.

So she was ready to pay that $12,000, but like not, it would likely be futile.

Running out of viable viable options she was told that euthanizing the puppy would be best she held out for another month hoping his symptoms would lessen but eventually decided to take the vet's advice and put him down

so

she did that and then in late march um she was told that the shelter's policy does not allow pet owners to stay in the room with their pets as they're put down so she said goodbye and walked out of the office about that's a policy yeah about a year after the situation she considered getting another dog and decided to take a peek at the rescue's website the original one when she was visiting family back home.

She was shocked earlier this month when she spotted a dog who looked identical to Bo, just a bit bigger, with the same name he had been given at the shelter when she first fell in love with him in 2022.

She quickly called the shelter and received confirmation that her dog had not been euthanized after veterinarians there deemed him healthy enough to be saved.

The shelter instead returned the puppy to the rescue, which confirmed in a statement that its vets found no neurological issues with the dog.

Instead, the vets diagnosed the animal with a liver problem and declared him healthy after a $7,000 surgery.

She claims it took several days to get anyone from rescue on the phone to explain what happened and was hurt by the rudeness she was treated with when she did finally talk to someone.

Okay, like the crazy thing about this story is that there's oddly a happy ending.

Like her dog is healthy and she can be reunited with him.

Like,

so, and so, like, imagine someone you thought was dead a year later is alive and healthy.

Wait, but now they're giving her an issue about reuniting with him.

Um,

they're saying the person on the phone was saying that I abandoned him and left him to die, that I never cared about him.

She was claimed that the dog will never go back to her before the person hung up on her.

LDCRF does not re-home an owner-surrender dog with its former adopter-owner.

Our mission is to save adoptible and safe to the community dogs from euthanasia.

Okay, by the way, so they're like low-key the villains in this, and they're like trying to point the finger at this girl.

And by the way, I didn't, I don't know this because like I have never up until recently put a dog down.

So I don't have like a ton of experience, but I'm pretty sure like them not letting you be in the room is like very weird.

It's very weird.

And isn't the point of like the shelter and adopting dogs is like to for the dogs to find homes.

So like if this is like some backdoor scheme to like get more dogs and recycle the dogs and set and right, you're basically getting someone to pay for a dog twice.

Right.

Which like you're in the for-profit dog business industry.

And like why wasn't he using, like, why didn't the needle go in in that very moment?

Right.

Because it's giving that scheme.

It's giving like the hospital has some sort of backdoor deal

and double dipping.

Like diagnosing healthy dogs, pretending to put them down, then putting them back in in the shelter so you can, instead, make you know, $450 from a dog, you can make $900 from a dog.

That's so crazy.

No, this is really crazy.

Although, like, and I would like to keep following up on this trick because I would like this girl to get her dog back.

Like, that would be so crazy.

Yeah, but that's what the rescue spokesperson said in a statement.

Like, even since this has come out, that they don't re-home owner-surrender dogs with their former owner.

Like, that's the position that they're taking.

No, and like, that's a good policy when that happens, but it didn't.

But it didn't.

It's really fucking weird.

It is not to

it's perfect segue like giving Graham.

It is giving Graham.

And that is.

Graham did get rehomed, but hippie, whatever they call him.

His name will always be Graham.

They did rehome Graham technically to the place that surrendered him.

Technically.

Not exactly, but maybe Lisa has her own policies.

It's her dog rescue, Vanner Pump dogs.

Okay, so part three of the Vanderpump Rules reunion was on last night.

I feel like it was definitely the most awaited it usually is, but like them doing this whole, nobody saw the last two minutes of the episode and then watching it together like was kind of brilliant like seriously i felt so fucking awkward i was gripped like my stomach was in a knot watching sheena and lala watch back what they said and it's so funny how they're such a different people because like watching their faces like sheena is dying on the inside she's horrified because that's sheena like she doesn't like maybe you could call it talking behind someone's back but like she doesn't want to say the unkind thing that she's thinking to someone's face.

Maybe she doesn't like confrontation.

I don't think that's like a bad quality.

No, she gets shit because like she's like a people pleaser.

She says one thing to someone and does the other.

But, and I don't think it's her being duplicitous.

I think it's like this genuine feeling.

She wants everyone to like her.

So she can't help that she feels a certain way, but she won't say it because she doesn't want anyone to think that she's making it about her or that she's being mean.

But then you see Lala, and I'm sure on the inside, Lala was like, fuck.

Fuck.

But she's going to double down because she knows that is how she feels and that's her truth and she's going to speak it.

And I thought, so I had, I just was like so invested in this episode, like really like locked in, as I said, couldn't look at my phone.

And I just want to say, overall, like Ariana has my heart.

That was my takeaway, too.

I thought she acted so mature.

So mature.

She never once got angry.

She did not raise her voice.

She was still very vulnerable.

Like, I actually appreciated her breaking down a little bit when it came to Tom and explaining, like, even when, when, you know, Andy was like, how does it make you feel to hear what Blank said about you?

Even when she could have been confrontational, she said, you know, I was hurt, but she never like lashed out at anyone.

And I think it points to such an emotional intelligence and a maturity that is so unrecognizable in reality TV.

Like she seriously like stood out so much because of it.

Yeah,

she really did.

Just everything that she was saying,

she didn't come for anyone, except for Tom, which who she's deserves it, allowed to.

But even when she heard what Lala was saying and she just like responded, being like, that's so hurtful.

I just, she was so big and she just deserves better.

And like, she can't get that on this show.

She just can't.

And

I think

either she can compartmentalize.

And maybe it's now that it's been a year plus since the affair, like she, in this season, could do that or she has to move on from it.

But it's not big that she has to be the one to leave her job and her career

because of what he did.

No, I think last night's episode was such a reminder for me how close this was to Sandoval.

And I think like, I didn't know it watching it, but I think everybody who lived it knew.

It's only been three months.

And so now I actually do feel like people were really hard on her, like, especially with the house thing.

Like, it was still really fresh.

And so I think last night was really not a good look for Lala,

but I came away from it understanding her a little bit more.

So I think I don't really agree with her stance on anything, but it's clear that Lala is so damaged.

And I think that

she has been applying her experience with Randall to Scandival like this entire season.

And I think everybody's sort of like rolling their eyes at it.

And me too, because it's not a fair comparison.

But that doesn't diminish the fact that like she's living with deep trauma.

And hers is like, yes, a betrayal of the highest, just like Ariana, but then the added layer of like the custody, like, which I think really broke her and like drove her to this place to want to have another kid without another man.

Like,

I think she's so broken and her just like breaking down at the end being like, it's so unfair.

It is unfair.

Like, what, what happened to her after she got cheated on and what happened to Lala.

after she got cheated on Ariana after she got cheated on are completely different things

and it's not fair and life isn't fair and that sucks and I understand her anger and her frustration and just her like sort of like reliving this trauma, but that doesn't make what Ariana's going through

like any different.

Yeah, I agree with that.

And like, I felt sad for her.

I wasn't championing anything she was really saying, but I did feel sad for her.

Oh, no, I heard all of her points.

Like, and I, I, I still,

I, I feel her.

And I feel like she's still my queen.

So I don't, I hope no one like thought that was in question.

And I, and also, like, what's also equally frustrating, we talked about last week how, you know, the response has been different, but like when they flash back to that reunion and really the, the takeaway was like, how you get them is how you lose them.

Like you should have known better.

I'm sorry, but like Tom and Kristen and Ariana, like it's the same sort of situation.

He's, we've like known him and seen him for so long.

And there's none of that.

And because there shouldn't be any of that, because a person was hurt and they believed in someone.

And the fact that none of that grace was given to Lala, and it's not even like it was so long ago.

It was like two years before.

And that's really the response that you're going to give her when she's home with a seven-month baby, seven-month-old baby.

Like she's right to feel so mad about that and not be able to

let it go.

It's not fair.

But I also felt like a lot of the points that she was making about the show, though incredibly harsh, are

fair points.

Like the things that she said in the finale, like nobody really wants to hear it.

But I think that's more of the reality of their day-to-day is they talk about the show probably 95% of their time.

And then the 5% they're filming the show and they talk about it like it doesn't exist.

But even that scene that they played back from Ariana, Katie talking about Ariana and Tom's relationship and how they don't show anything on the show, like that's the show's fault for not showing us that.

Up until that point, yeah.

Yeah, but it's also on Tom and Ariana.

Like, they obviously made a decision, like an agreement, like we are going to put forth some sort of whatever, and we can deal with whatever issues we have in private, but that's not going to become fodder for the show.

So, that was an agreement that they had, and that's what made Scandival all the more shocking because they looked like a solid couple.

Yeah.

And then they all want to tell us, no, it's been bad for so long, but it's like, but you, we didn't know that.

Right.

And that's where, like, that's where I think frustration from the viewers came this season.

It's like, well, we knew Tom was like an asshole, but you guys pretended everything was normal and okay.

So now we have to like relive everyone discovering Tom's an asshole.

Like we knew.

Yeah.

No, I really, I felt badly for Lala.

I felt really bad for Ariana.

Sheena.

I felt bad for Lala too, but I don't think like basically like when she had to speak for for herself at the reunion after Randall, like there was a lot of victim blaming going on.

That's what it was.

And I think, you know, she was kind of like looking for that to happen again.

But I don't think that's the answer.

Like, but you can't help that that's what happened to Lala.

Do you know what I mean?

Like it's already done.

But them doing it to Ariana doesn't make it right.

Right.

No, I guess would make it fair.

Or some acknowledgement for like on Lala's part.

I think she just wants everyone to like see her and realize what she's been through.

You know, but I don't, but it will never be, even if people are like, yes, Lala, we were wrong.

Like we shouldn't have been that way.

It's not going to change what happened and how it went down.

And she's always going to carry that.

yeah sheena was like seriously like like i think like seriously wanted to die like it was painful to watch she was crippled with anxiety and just about the show versus then they're gonna rap and lala's her best friend and did she just throw her under the bus right but then also feeling isolated because she

the things she said about ariana were played in front of ariana so she's like distanced from ariana and then like the one person she had in this world is like seriously you're not doing enough and so like then her trying to put a bandaid on it at the end being like lala's been there for me was like nice but it's like not the point yeah but i think lala if they're really that close like knows this about Gina and it must be frustrating to really stand out there on your own like Lala was doing and take the hits.

And I was looking briefly at like what people were saying about the reunion and like it's it's team Katie and Ariana.

Lala hatred.

I think she's getting so much hate.

I hope she has turned her phone off because like I think towards the end of this the tail end of the season and these reunions like she carried it in my opinion.

And yes, Ariana was the subject, but like she was just there because what more can she do?

Because she's going through stuff.

No, and everything, everything, it's so funny.

Like all of this has happened to Ariana.

Ariana has played no part in Scandival.

Like she never really even responded.

She's just sort of like letting everyone like clown and like spiral, but she herself has like contributed nothing.

And so for her to like be getting hate is really crazy because she's literally done nothing except like just try and protect herself.

Like she doesn't freak out.

She's had like a couple like angry moments, but really nothing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But I thought like their exchange was interesting because when Ariana said like her walking away from the conversation with Tom was a better ending to the season than having the conversation with Tom, which personally I don't really care to see.

Like does anyone?

It's like corny.

We know they would never have that conversation if they weren't on a show together.

And like what's there to say that hasn't already been said?

They're not going to come away from it with resolution.

So she was like, that gave a better ending to the season, me walking away than having the conversation.

It's like.

Lala then being like, no, if I hadn't spoken my mind, the season would have ended with you walking out the door.

Like, that's not interesting either.

So it is true that like they both both contributed to, like, the way the season ended, I think, was one of the most interesting pieces of reality TV I've ever seen.

Same as it was very breaking down the fourth wall, like, very honest.

Yeah, but they both really did

their part in that.

Yeah.

And I think I appreciate Lala, like, being so honest about the business of it and the opportunities.

I think that's always been the truth, but not something anyone

says.

Yeah, that's so much breaking the fourth wall.

And I think once they broke the wall, they're just letting it rip now.

And that is the truth of the matter.

Like the show, if it doesn't continue to make waves, like it's in jeopardy.

Now they've got the valley down their backs.

Why did they spend so much time talking about Jackson Brittany?

I don't know.

Like, I'm not interested at the moment.

No, I do feel like it's a way of them melding these two shows because I think people from Vanderpump Rules are going to graduate and go to the Valley.

Yeah.

I mean, if just like logistically, Sheena lives in the Valley.

And Lala, they're neighbors now.

Right.

So, and they have kids.

Yeah.

So it was, it was very emotional.

Also, knowing that Lala's pregnant, I think that's one why she was so emotional.

She like that sort of anxiety and that pit in your stomach, it's just like not good.

And I'm glad that it's like done with for her.

I hope, I wish her well.

I hope she has a good summer.

And we'll see what happens when they come back.

And I really wish Ariana well.

Like, I was so impressed by her.

I feel, me too.

I feel so

deeply for her.

And

I don't know what the right way forward is.

I don't, but I hope that she knows and does what's best for her.

One of them has to leave in order for the show to really work.

Or no, or Ariana just like accepts like this is an energy.

But she shouldn't have to do that and she doesn't want to.

No, okay.

She doesn't want to, but that is one option.

Like we both stay on the show.

We'll go to the party together.

Like I hate you.

It'll become like, but we'll fight and it'll be crazy.

And that what we're both, because Tom Sandoval is not leaving the show unless he's fired.

And I don't think he's going to get fired.

She's too evolved for that, by the way.

She's not going to do that.

So I do think the only real way to move forward is for Ariana to leave the show, which is so wrong.

But I do think they set the scene for that, especially talking about Lisa not going to the reunion at Beverly Hills.

Like sometimes you're just done with this group of people, which means that you have to be done.

You know what?

I actually...

So glad you brought that up.

I love that they brought up the Lisa, because you know what?

At the time, I was so anti-Lisa.

Like I thought she was a drama queen.

She couldn't hold her own.

But now seeing how she has like 100,

a lot of people like leave and come back.

She has never reneged.

Like she's done.

Whenever she gets asked about these people, she wants to know part of them and she continued to thrive work wise and personally.

And actually, I'm glad that they reminded me of that because I was very critical of her at the time.

But now looking back, like she was really a woman of her word.

And while I don't agree with like the, you know, the stance she took in the actual argument, there is something to be said for like, you know, being.

done with a group of people and never like, especially in reality TV, like never reneging on that, you know?

Yeah.

And also the way she explained it, and it's like, I don't know if she said this at the time, but I feel like I would have been more understanding.

It's not that she didn't want to like face up to everyone at the reunion like the goal of the reunion is to like come together and and hash out the drama and like she has no interest in coming together or hashing out the drama and making it right so i'm done so there's no point yeah yeah at a certain point like you have to put your peace and like your sanity and your mental health over this and i do think at this point like ariana has what she needs from the show she has opportunity.

She has something about her, which can still be on the show via Katie.

Yeah, but the thing is, if Ariana leaves the show, where does that leave Katie?

It leaves her on an island.

Like,

none of the girls are friends with her.

She hates Tom.

She hates the other Tom.

The other Tom hates her.

So then I think maybe Ariana won't leave the show.

I think maybe we'll get another season that's kind of like this, and it'll focus on something about her.

Also, she spent all this time building a restaurant.

Like, you think she's going to leave before the promo hits?

No, that's not sound business either.

Agreed.

I think they go on another season and we'll see what happens.

Because also, like, anything could change, right?

Like, crazy stuff happens all the time.

It's true.

So, that's what I think.

I actually think nothing will change.

Like, they gave us a great season.

So, why do we need to change it?

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Now, the dynamics are really strained.

Yeah.

And we have to move forward.

So, let's watch that.

Okay, so that's how I feel.

More of the same.

I feel like that's the end of the episode.

Yeah.

And that's all she wrote.

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