Holding Space For Two Things At Once: Wednesday, February 28th, 2024

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Good morning, millennials, and welcome back to the toast.

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Final episode of the Week, Sadness.

There comes in that, you know, emotional roller coaster again.

Every episode of the Toast is a roller coaster, an emotional one at that.

We made such a hullabaloo yesterday about the fact that it was our last episode, even though right now is technically our last episode.

So it's just giving lasty vibes.

You look gorgeous.

That shade of pink is stunning on you.

Why, thank you so much.

Whoever said orange was a new pink was seriously disturbed.

We were both, we are both wearing the pale pink crewneck set but we styled it differently from each other which is so different for us because we're so sympathetic are you a jacks or a turdy are you wearing a crew neck crew neck with leggings are you wearing the whole set whole set maybe a little tie around the shoulders because it is a little

string of pearls

it is a little warm in here it is a little warm in here and it's not just bruno you know no it's turdy too turdy jackson brew final episode of the wonderful

i don't even know what to call it sabbatical well no you don't work on sabbatical i've been working so fucking hard uh kind of like a company off-site company off-site

destination toast

but you're home it's not a destination that's true

toasts down south something t ds something like that final episode is today i don't want to you know harp too much on the negative but i just want to say it's been amazing I have loved being here.

I love you.

I love Brew.

I love your whole family.

I love my whole family.

And

it's a devastating loss.

It is.

And there are so many things I'm going to miss about this special time that we've had together.

What will you miss most?

Well, something that I'm going to miss, I'm not going to say miss most because obviously I'm going to miss you most.

Just the fabulosity of being together, of like, you know, having lunch together.

What are we doing today?

Even though

I am like a little, when I'm looking on the bright side, like I look forward to getting back to like full productivity because I feel like a lot of the things that I usually do during the day are falling by the wayside and I have to do them at night.

And so I just like, I haven't checked my email in Lord knows how long.

So looking forward to that.

Something that I'm going to miss in addition to you, who I love so much is Bruno because Bruno never joins the show, but he only joined because of you.

Let's see how he acts, you know, moving forward.

I'll hold out hope that he still wants to podcast with me.

Right now, he's just sitting by the lights.

It must be really warm and toasty there.

That's interesting.

I thought you were going to say like, you know what, I'm going to miss like, you know, all the laughter.

Like, I thought you were going to say something nice about me.

No.

That's why I at first said, of course, I'm going to miss you the most, but just like...

But like, what about me?

Willie Miss?

Like, what about my presence?

I'm just curious.

Like, what, what do you think I've, you know, added that you will miss?

Like a value?

Oh, well,

well,

I mean, where do I begin?

It in for the show or for my whole life?

Anything.

It's easier to say for my whole life because the show is fabulous.

Like, no matter where we do it.

Just positivity, like, just such a nice hum around the house when the turdy is here.

Just

she brings a great energy, an energy that will be missed sorely.

You make doing errands more fun.

We have so much fun when we do errands.

And we make just everything into an hour.

And we're hilarious.

You make lunch more fun.

Lunch is always fun, unless it was the lunch we had during that Patreon vlog.

That'll be out tomorrow.

Right.

The disgusting discussion.

The disgusting discussion.

And this is devastating.

It is.

But are you looking forward to going back to being internet friends?

Because I know you love doing the podcast.

I'm glad you brought this up.

We're weird.

The show was fun.

I couldn't even look you in the eyes.

I was like.

we got over it really quickly, and I don't think anybody like knew except for the fact that we addressed it, but we are weirdly internet friends.

Yeah, I happen to love doing the show remotely.

I feel like I do my best work remotely, which is good because I don't feel like when I leave, the show suffers at all.

Um, so I'm looking forward to getting back to like my little square and your little square.

Like, I happen to really like it.

I feel comfortable.

Well, now we've gotten used to this, me too, me too.

And like, making eye contact.

I felt like really like in pain.

I felt like a stranger in my own house.

i felt like a stranger in my own family like it was just weird i'm glad like we both felt it like we can address it and move on we we so squashed it so quick no it's natural like we were pen pals and now we're meeting in real life we really are like like inner like you're like right to me in prison you know like you are you're like catching you're ryan and i'm gypsy yeah i heard a rumor and it's so unfounded and it's like was it tick tock that gypsy rose is pregnant Why would it be so crazy?

Well, that means she would just be telling us like when she's one month pregnant, which is just like, maybe she's not a superstitious girl.

Yeah.

Okay, then for that reason, unless they.

But I have no proof that that's true.

Like, I literally read it in a TikTok comment section.

Like, it was so fake.

So, so extremely fake.

That's really

hard that you would even give it a.

Perpetuate.

But it got me thinking.

Like, I do think we could see a Gypsy Rose pregnancy sometime soon because she's very vocal about like how much she's fucking.

Bed, Bed, Jip.

Lil' Jip.

Actually.

Her name is Gypsy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I feel like we always have this discussion about the word.

Well, now you're making it weird.

Yeah, I am.

I am.

Let's go.

When it was just a bit more.

Like, just move on.

Okay.

So, we've got a great show today.

It's just going to be two gorgeous girls being absolutely gorgeous, talking to gorgeous boys and girls.

Like, it's kind of, you know, what it's giving?

Gorgeous.

It's giving gorgeousness, as is our new merch, which you can get now at shop toastmerch.com.

Still available.

Some things are sold out.

Trucker hat, gone.

T-shirt, gone.

We brought the mug back.

The

green set and the pink set were good so there's green so that was not really

that was a little confusing really I feel like you and I have been on the back end of it perfect like so is there a mug yeah okay because you said we brought the mug back meaning it's back are you okay no okay I just found it to be a little confusing green set and pink set are available go get yar merch

and I feel like we're just like dilly dallying because getting into the stories means like, you know, the end of summer is approaching.

Like, you know, it's the last day of camp.

yeah and also getting into the stories means that we have to deal with the stories i know and it's like when did that become our problem you know the year was 2018.

let's talk about the last day of camp what type of girl were you on the last day of camp

i i'm you know

it's hard for me to be without my stuff because you pack a few days before camp they take your stuff camp trucking they ship it camp trucking trucking and so like you're sleeping in a sleeping bag and you don't have your bedding and that's like a little that's a little dark for me i like to have my things So like when I, when we talk about last day of camp, the first thing that comes to mind to you is like not having your perfume and stuff.

Not having my bedding, but then when it came to toiletries, we wouldn't throw away, we wouldn't ship them back home.

So we got to like use them in abundance and you could use other people's toiletries.

And so the way I remember last day of camp is just like kind of like using new shampoos and conditioners and sleeping in a sleeping.

That is so weird.

And waking up at the crack of dawn.

That is so weird that like that's your association.

Cause for me, the last day of camp like signified like the beginning of like a really dark period for me.

Like a week or two, I was so depressed.

I would hysterically cry with like leaving my friends like long, long hugs, like shoulder-shaking sobs.

Like then I would get home and the sadness would not go away.

I was not happy to see my family.

I was not happy to see my room.

I was not happy to see my school friends.

Like I would wake up like for a few days after camp waking up alone versus like waking up in a bunk with so many people.

It was so stark and so different.

I was really depressed.

I don't think that I cried on the last day of camp.

I'll have to ask Margo Lewin.

She would remember, but that just doesn't feel like me.

I feel like when I would get home.

It does not seem like something you would do.

I feel like when I would get home from camp, like I felt renewed and brand new and like so many new things I learned learned at camp, whether it was like new music or just new ways to style my hair.

And I was like excited to take that to the streets when I got home.

By the way, that's true.

Like new way of talking.

It was like a new beginning for me.

Like I'm brand new.

I'm sitting in my room and I'm just different.

You know what's so interesting?

Like I'm about to say something I've never, like I said a thought that I've never thought before.

I feel like every time I say something in the podcast, I've said it three times before, but this is like a totally new original thought that just popped into my mind.

Okay.

Exciting.

I feel like since doing the toast, like we've always been sisters and I've always known everything about you, but since working with you full time, like I really know, like I know more about you than all the other sisters.

Like I just don't, not that it's competition.

I'm just like saying facts.

Okay.

It's not a competition because they would lose.

No, I don't talk to them nearly as much.

I'm not on hour three of podcasting for the day.

Right.

However, I feel like, because when you were just telling me that story, I'm like, I feel like I'm learning things about, I kind of forgot what I was going to say.

My like original creative thought.

You feel like you know me really well.

But yeah, I think you know me better than anyone.

Yeah, but I think maybe what I was, fuck, I like had an original thought.

Maybe what I was trying to say,

you know what?

It's gone.

Like I literally so weird.

I want to know what you were going to say.

I was, I think maybe I was going to say, I can never like, I feel like I'm having a stroke.

Like I can't even talk.

Are you going to affy four?

Please stop.

Let's talk about that.

You know what?

I'm going to call out Taylor Farms, okay?

Jackie.

You made me feel so small.

In the ad copy yesterday.

I thought I was having a stroke.

I'm like, this is English.

I was saying, and by the way, I read it every time.

You've never said anything.

In their copy, it says, Taylor Farms chop salad gets affy boring.

And I thought affy was a word, meaning like they reject boring.

But apparently, like somebody made me realize in a comment section, perhaps it's been a typo all this time.

Somebody forgot to put the D.

It defies boring.

And that probably makes a lot more sense.

Right.

So when I called you out for a fying boring, that's not English.

Yeah, but like when we're doing ads, like just like shut up, you know?

I know.

I never call out your flubs during the ads because

this is a place of business.

It's a place of business.

And, you know, it's a certain amount of time that they get.

And I don't want to to like spend it slandering you even though that's all you do to me when I read anything.

But I'm sorry, just a five wording like you couldn't let it go.

I didn't comprehend.

You couldn't let it go.

I understand that.

I could not comprehend.

I couldn't let things go.

I get that.

I literally let it go in two seconds when you shut me down.

Really, bro.

Because I was literally keeping the lights on here.

Like land or light.

By speaking wrong.

By misspeaponk.

No, I think what I was trying to say back to this thesis of mine that's becoming so painful to talk about.

I think what I was trying to say was like

You think you know me because of the toast

You know me better than anyone.

Yes, but that's not what I was trying to say and I was trying to say like as kids like we were you know tight but not as tight as we are now and I I really don't know what I was saying.

I was saying that

when I come home I'm brand new.

Yeah.

Like I learn all these things at camp.

No, it's not gonna happen.

Like move on.

I'm sorry.

I really like rats.

I know it was gonna be really sweet too.

You would have loved it.

Darn darn.

darn okay let me try i think what i was trying to say was like

i'm like learning about like things like you experience and things you think thought like your thought processes as a young person and i think i maybe would have never known those things had it not been for the toast maybe that's what i was trying to say i understand that and i feel the same for you it's like we went through the same thing we both like went to the same camp we came home on the same bus we plopped our asses down at the same house but internally like and we never shared what we were feeling right but we process it so differently it's not like you know even after we were done processing we sat down and had had conversations about those thoughts and feelings.

Right.

And we're doing that now.

Until today, we're unpacking a lot, Turdi, and we're holding space for our former selves.

We are holding space for our former selves.

And, you know, you can hold space for two things at once.

You can if you're annoying as fuck.

Yeah, by the way, it's true.

Only, it's actually only possible to hold space for two things at once if you are annoying and ugly.

Like, it's just, we don't make the rules.

If you could talk to your younger self, what would you tell her?

People ask me this question all the time and I always have the same answer and they think I'm joking and I'm being dead fucking serious.

Like, delete your old tweets, you ugly bitch.

Like, what are you doing?

You're not funny.

By the way, we talk about this in the vlog that's dropping tomorrow on the Patreon.

So I'm going to, I'm going to leave that there.

I'm going to set that aside and hold something else.

You're going to hold space for him.

You're going to hold space for something else.

Which is like, no, like, you know, Kendall Jenner and like Jay Shetty, when they, like, you have to look at a picture of them.

Are they Joe Slender Jay Shetty?

I love him.

No, no, no.

Like,

it's a popular exercise.

And it's like, oh, that clip of Kendall on Jay Shetty's podcast.

Of your little girl self.

And when you do negative self-talk, just imagine that you're talking negatively to that little girl.

Okay.

That little girl needed it.

Like no, what I was going to say, so obviously I miss the point in the exercise.

I was going to say, like, what would you say to her?

And not like buy Tesla stock because she doesn't know what that means.

Like, what would you say to her?

Calm down.

Like, you're annoying everyone around you.

You're giving yourself.

You're going to bully her?

You're giving yourself like a really bad reputation.

Like, just calm down.

Like, I was a really, if you read my book, you know, I was like a really annoying, ranbunctious, like energetic, angry little kid.

Like, imagine if someone had stifled your energy at that age.

You would not be sitting in this chair littered.

imagine if somebody i don't care if it was me in 10 years imagine if anybody came up to me while i was like having a temper tantrum and told me like calm down oh my god i would have literally like choked them to death yeah

all that to say you missed the point of like the jay shetty exercise no no no i get it i get it i get it but like

some kids some people no matter how young you are like need to hear heart truth you're still wrong no like you're still just because you're little and cute like you still did the wrong thing i mean isn't that parenthood like in a in a nutshell like wanting to yell at your kids but like they're so cute cute yeah

yeah

it's true and holding space for both truths is of the utmost importance constantly what am i doing holding space for two

breasts

guys like next time i play charades i'm gonna be like this like

She's holding space for two things and her true at once.

I'm holding space for both things, you know?

So let's hold space for one thing.

The fast five stories.

Oh, I know, I know.

I mean, is there anything else you want to talk about?

I'm wearing this clip that was, by the way, did we get into the clip conversation on yesterday's podcast that ended up on the cutting room floor?

Take one or take two.

Did you guys hear about this clip saga?

I'm not going to go into it, but just in case you heard about it, because it really wasn't that.

In case you did hear about it, I'm wearing the clip right now and loving it.

Thanks.

You're welcome.

What I'm holding space for right now is the toast.

I mean, are you ever not?

The toast at a glance.

My favorite thing.

Should we take a step back and look at the toast at a glance right now?

I'm always down to, by the way, like, take a step back.

Yeah.

Take several.

Several.

Okay, what do you want to say?

About the toast at a glance, Flamingo's three-week adventure.

Oh, no, I meant us as like our business.

Oh, business is booming.

Booming.

Our biggest merch, I almost almost say

lurch munch.

I did that on my stories today.

Our biggest lurch munch yet, honestly.

So, whatever.

I thought our last one was going to be our biggest yet, that gray one.

They love that, but now they're loving pink and green.

This is like OG coloring.

I'm not surprised.

You know, no, this, this is my favorite one.

Me too.

I say that about everyone.

I would hope that's the way a creator felt.

It's kind of like lurch munches are like our children.

I would hope that's the way a creator felt about their lurch munches.

We're such creators.

We are.

No, no.

Like, I know we joke, but nobody, literally, nobody creates more than us.

Wait, I actually saw TikTok that was so smart.

I loved it and I i saved it can i play it for you of course um

and i learned a word um that i had never learned before it was like so it was such an like a smart tick tock oh here okay

talking about like how influencers like an insult

just makes it seem like you think you're better than everyone i don't know i just don't vibe with the word so she was responding to someone who said that with big pop is that person an influencer yes a huge oh so she's saying i don't identify as an influencer even though i technically i'm an influencer i don't like the word yeah right into this girl's response word

originally just meant female dog.

It was a neutral word, but eventually went through a language evolution process called pejoration.

Are you familiar with the word pejoration?

No, me neither.

Meaning it picked up negative connotations over time that weren't a part of the original definition.

What's interesting about pejoration as a language process is that it's very gendered.

A lot of words that are originally neutral in their meaning but have something to do with femininity end up pejorating over time and becoming insults.

Meanwhile, the reverse happens to masculine words.

But all of that to say, I can't help noticing now the disdain with which we all spit out the word influencer.

And mind you, I think there are very valid criticism of both influencers and influencing as a job.

But it is predominantly women in this space.

And I can't help but wonder if that has anything to do with why we now want to distance ourselves from that word so much.

Think a la,

well, I'm not feminist, but I believe in any.

She lost me there.

No, but she's right.

Peduration, first of all, I didn't know that was a female.

A lot of female words, like bitch, pussy.

Right.

And douche.

Douche.

Oh, my God.

It's so funny because I think of douche as like something we call men.

No, but it's like it's a female word.

It's a female take.

Yeah.

And first of all, I didn't know about pejoration.

Like, I just love that word.

I need to like learn more about it and start like using it in everyday life, probably using it incorrectly.

But it was a good like take on why influencer has become a bad word.

Because when you think about influencers, you do not think about men.

No.

You think about like women, mostly like moms who do it, you know, as a job in addition to being a mom.

Yeah.

Like the OG influencers that I think about.

That's what I think about.

Yeah.

I do think in that TikTok, like I don't know that influencers, I mean, I could be wrong, but that it will go the way of like bitch where it turns into something that it's not exceptionally.

Yeah.

And I also don't relate to the original person.

Like I'm the proud influencer.

You know, like I saw that original video and I thought it was like such a extreme take.

Like I don't want to be associated.

I think a lot of people don't want to call themselves influencers because they'd rather be like I don't want to be called an influencer because I'd rather be referred to as a comedian or a podcaster.

The thing is, I don't mind if someone calls me an influencer.

I just don't want to call myself an influencer because it's like a little bit,

hey, look at me.

I'm so influential.

That's like calling yourself a celebrity.

Like it's just a little immodest, but it's not.

unaccurate and if someone like if someone was like writing something about me and they said influencers I guess you'd be like hey I have no problem with someone calls me it it's just a little presumptuous when you say it because it's like oh you think you're so influential yeah but like the word influencer like it comes with an eye roll

well not for me well yeah but you're unique in that like for everyone else it does they're just jealous well they are jealous by the way right because also all kids want to be influencers no and it's like if you if you can do it right it's the best job in the world We could wax poetic on this debate, whether it's the best or the worst.

That's true.

But it is a desirable job.

Like when they poll kids about what they want to be when they grow up, a lot of them say, most of them say they want to be influencers, which is just a little sad, but it is.

As two influencers.

It's a larger conversation.

Like it's not just the pejoration of the word, it's bigger than that.

Right.

Like, our aspirations are no longer like academia or science or medicine.

It's also like the pejoration of just like the profession.

Yeah.

In general, certainly it's gendered.

There's a lot there, but I am grateful for being introduced to the word.

Pejuration.

Yeah.

And let me just shout out the creator who made that video because, like, not us stealing her whole thesis.

Her name is Audra.

Thank you, Audra.

Thank you for that

vocabulary lesson.

Vocabulary lesson and

thought-provoking.

Stuff.

Stuff.

I was looking for a better word than stuff, but it's just a pile of stuff.

By the way, I've been saying, because weirdly in my room have been so many different piles of stuff because I'm packing and I'm cleaning and I'm moving and I'm leaving and I'm this and I'm that shopping, yada.

I've been saying like the three words pile of stuff like probably 50 times over the last week.

And I can't say it without saying pile of stuff.

If you know, you know.

Yeah.

So I think we should dive into the fast five stories.

What do you think about that?

I think so.

I think that eventually we have to.

Right.

Might as well just do it.

Just do it.

Rip off the band-aid.

Who knows where it'll take us.

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Our first story.

A little royal news.

Prince William has bailed out an event with Queen Camilla for personal reasons while Kate Middleton is doing well after surgery.

So, Prince William was a no-show at a memorial service for the late King Constantine II of Greece at Windsor Castle on Tuesday, amid his wife Kate Middleton's recovery from abdominal surgery.

Now, we don't know if these two things are related, but he was supposed to go to this event.

The late king was his godfather.

Oh,

he did not attend.

And also, holding space for two things to be true, he didn't attend while also Kate is out of surgery.

Out of surgery.

Are they related?

I feel like something's really weird.

Like, I feel like the Royals, like, don't cancel on stuff.

They're like very, they work them to the bone over there.

They don't take time off.

The fact that Kate is taking time off, he's now excusing himself from an event that looks like it's really important.

Like, this is somebody who's not.

He was supposed to give a reading too.

So I don't know.

And I feel like they've been very nondescript about what's going on with Kate while we have so much information like on.

Oh my God.

I feel like next we're going to see a corrosion.

Yeah.

Like it's so, and that's great.

They've been so like

and transparent with details, but with Kate, they've kind of given us nothing and then never brought it up again.

Yeah.

But she's out till Easter.

But let's be not forget, Easter is coming early this year.

March 31st.

So she should be back in about a month.

It's just

suspicious.

Yeah, I think people are quizzical about Eastern.

And now, like, when anything comes to the royals, but also this is like very strange and out of character.

People have conspiracy theorized.

What's the theory on that?

I don't know.

But a lot of people are like just not buying what, you know, the palace is feeding them.

They didn't give us anything.

They said personal reasons.

That could run the gap.

They said abdominal surgery.

Oh, for Kate, Kate.

Yeah, for Kate.

Prince William backed out of this for personal reasons.

Oh, to me, like his personal reasons are Kate.

Oh, you think?

If they're not, he needs to reprioritize.

His wife just got out of surgery.

But his wife got out of surgery and he's still planning on attending this.

So what?

Yeah.

Maybe she's not recovering well.

Yeah.

It's confusing.

Yeah, it is.

I hope all's well.

Me too, of course.

I hope it's nothing nefarious.

Yeah, nothing nefarious, of course.

People are just so quick to like, you know, think it's nefarious with the royals because they think they're like this all-consuming, like the firm.

Sometimes they are actually.

So I feel that.

Yeah, I feel that too.

But I don't know.

I'm just going to, I'm going to wait and see.

I'm going to ask you a question and I want you to just, just don't answer me quickly.

Like, think about it.

Take a second.

Really think, okay?

Okay.

What would you say if I asked you for a sip of your water?

I would say yes because we've had a hard morning.

And would you let me like waterfall it or you would let me put your lips on it?

I would let you put your lips on it because we've been through a lot together today.

Yeah.

More than you guys have seen.

Yeah, like a lot of behind-the-scenes off-camera sort of things.

Like things aren't going our way today.

So I wouldn't be one more thing to stand in your way and make things harder for you.

Shannon Ford said, like, I need to be drinking a lot of water to keep up with my sunburn to make sure I don't like blister or crack.

Can I actually just keep this water?

Can I have one more sip?

Cause you make it look so good.

I did.

Well, I waterfalled it because I was being respectful, but then I was like, I need this i actually have not drank enough water today to soda

oh there she goes is she gonna drink the whole thing before

now now it's mine i'm good we're so hydrated we're so lovely and sharing sharing is caring and i care deeply for my sister i feel like you've gotten a lot better maybe at least it's just with me about like crazy germ like won't share drinks ben thinks ben's like weird about sharing drinks and it's just not gonna work for me so we share drinks whether he likes it or not but like even with with other members of his family like he won't like he wouldn't share a drink with you like i don't love sharing drinks.

I share drinks with my husband because my Rose is my husband.

And when he does manage to put the drinks away, we will share one.

Of course, we'll share a beverage.

Cheers to that.

Cheers to that.

But I don't jump at the chance to give someone a sip of my beverage.

However, I know you need it and you're struggling.

So I jump to help.

I do.

I so appreciate that.

I really, really do.

You're such a good friend and sister and lover.

Ew.

Okay.

How about ew?

What if I just ew?

Are you ready for our next story?

Yeah.

A little reality TV news says Love is Blind stars Jessica and Johnny were seen together at the airport.

This is really upsetting.

Like, so Jessica and Johnny from Love is Blind linked up in the real life at the airport, which may prove to be a big twist because they never really crossed paths on the show.

TMZ is a video that shows the two stars who did not interact on the reality series, as far as we know, walking through a terminal at LAX on Sunday morning where they were shoulder to shoulder.

The thing is, is that everything about Love is Blind is so top secret that this would just never fly.

If they were a couple, they're doing, now that they're all famous, like they're doing a lot of work.

Netflix is flying the match of LA.

I'm sure New York to do all the today, like the shows, podcasts.

I am sure that they were put on the same flight to go do a work thing.

And we all know they live in the same town.

Right.

I don't think this is.

Shoulder to shoulder.

I don't think this is a smoking gun, though it could be that.

So let's discuss the potential of them.

Kate, I mean, he is so concerned about children she's got a 10 year old like right he would literally run scared out of her house screaming like ah ah like he's so afraid of kids fundamentally this isn't gonna work i feel like that's probably why they never spoke in the pods like he was like i don't want to have kids and she said i have a kid and that's that also on a personality level like in my opinion and this is like might be mean like to me he's so beta

And we've been saying all along, like, Jess needs like a man.

Are there any alphas on the show?

I feel like going on the show is is the antithesis of being an alpha like not to be so mean but that's true and i feel like a lot of the guys who go on and why they're so toxic is because they think they're alphas and they're really not yeah

i honestly i'm gonna say something crazy i would say the only alpha that i can think of

in history of love is blind is like people are gonna think this is crazy is like barnett i was thinking the same thing yeah

May, but see, but then I think about like Cameron Hamilton.

I wouldn't say he's an alpha.

He's a Greek.

He's not an alpha, but I wouldn't say he's a beta.

He's kind of like neither.

He's not interested in your games.

Yeah.

He's not interested in your Greek labeling games.

And that's what makes him cool.

Yeah.

But as far as alpha, I can't think of any other season other than one and the one we're watching now.

No, okay.

I can think of the one full of losers.

The first one.

And that's like, that's the Shake Deep T, Natalie, Shane, Shane.

That was the biggest group of losers on the planet.

That was a really hard time.

We went through a lot.

We deserved compensation for for what we went through for having watched that season yeah and i think we just capped it yeah oh loserville what was last season oh then there oh that was like jared and ayanna too they were actually cute but they ended up getting divorced nick and um

dang yeah danielle yeah then there's last like two seasons ago which was like kwame and chelsea oh that was also irina yeah oh actually i kind of like that one and by the way kwame and chelsea i check up on them once a month i actually was looking at her instagram two days ago they're still married.

And two other couples

stayed together.

Who was it?

Google it.

That was a weird season.

Hold on.

Chelsea, Kwame, Love is Blind.

Yeah, that was the Portland and Seattle season.

Yeah.

Your favorite.

So I won't get into it.

Your favorite.

Okay.

Oh, Zach and Bliss.

They're expecting a baby.

You were obsessed with them.

I'm obsessed with them.

So I would say Zach is an alpha.

What?

You would?

You don't know what alpha means?

You don't think?

No, I don't think.

Do you?

I can't tell if you're joking.

Okay, that was season four.

Let me just look it up.

Season four, Love is Blind Couples.

I just want to make sure I'm not forgetting anyone, even though I know I am.

Brett and Tiffany, who the hell is that?

Let me see.

I've never seen these people

in my life.

I think I remember Tiffany.

She was a great great gal she was like super serious and

i like i think they were in a really solid relationship okay

i mean i think brett had a sneaker collection tiffany and brett are still married

i've never seen these people in my life but they're cute they're both like really like good looking yeah no they were great couple i think he had cool sneakers because i remember i watched micah and paul broken up right

Chelsea and Kwame married.

Zach and Bliss married Baby on the Way.

Oh, Marshall and Jackie, they were broken up.

That was it.

That was actually a good season.

Yeah, that was a good season.

So do I think Jess and Johnny are dating?

No.

One, because Netflix would never allow this photo to get out.

It's so avoidable that they both would just take separate flights.

And two,

talk about two less compatible people on the planet.

They don't exist.

Agreed.

And I think that Jess is about to bloom.

Yeah, no, she's a bad person.

She's going to become a star to start dating like athlete, anyone she wants.

I think she's like the most eligible bachelorette on the planet right now.

I think so too.

Right.

That's like the zeitgeist.

Like people love her.

We definitely like her more than other people.

I think a lot of people like, think she's like caddy mean girl.

I didn't get that.

I didn't get that either.

I think a lot of people just will assume that about a girl who's really pretty.

Like for real.

Like that's how I feel.

Yeah.

I think I saw some people like thinking that she was kind of like said made mean remarks about like Chelsea's looks, but that's not what I got.

I think she was more so hyping herself up.

I did not think she said any.

She had said when she went John, what's his name?

James?

What's Jimmy?

Well, I guess his name might be James.

When Jimmy was breaking out with her, she was basically like, when you get out of the pods, you're going to like vomit over what you say, Epi Penn.

And maybe people took that as like being like, well, I'm gorgeous and Chelsea's ugly, but she was really just talking about herself.

She was just talking about herself.

Yeah.

I like her, so I don't know if everybody else does, but I like her.

And by the way, I'm like not going to be able to watch The Love is Blind episodes because I'm going to be partying in St.

Bart's like tomorrow.

Oh my God.

I can finally watch and you're not here.

I will watch like I will by the time the next episode of The Toast comes out,

I will be caught up.

Okay, great.

Me too.

I'll get, you know, the Netflix app on my phone or something.

Like, I'll watch it on the plane.

Yeah, you'll use your VPN, ExpressVPN.

I think you could probably watch it, like, not in America.

I think it's just cooler to watch with Express VPN.

I agree.

And just make it feel like you're doing something wrong.

But don't get locked up abroad, okay?

I promise.

Are you ready for our next story, which was one of the crazier stories I've seen in a little bit?

Well, with an intro like that, I certainly am ready.

Madonna removes Luther Vandros from celebration tour AIDS tribute following an ask from his estate.

I had heard about Luther Vandros wanting nothing to do with Madonna.

I read that this morning.

Madonna has made an adjustment to her celebration tour.

The Queen of Pop removed an image of him from the section of her tour that pays tribute to AIDS victims after his estate requested it be taken down, her rep confirms to people.

Not me learning for the first time ever that that's how Luther Vandros passed away.

That's so sad.

Claudia,

the estate put out a statement that said, Luther Vandros Vandros passed away in 2005 due to complications from a stroke suffered two years earlier.

While we appreciate Madonna's recognition of those lives lost to AIDS, Luther was never diagnosed with AIDS

or the HIV virus.

We're not sure where she or her production team received false medical information claiming otherwise.

We're currently in contract with her management to remove Luther Vandros from the tribute.

There is nothing funny about HIV, but like this is funny.

How does a mishap like this happen?

How does this this happen?

I feel like it's a quick, I'm sure whoever was in charge like just did a Google search, like notable, because other people who are in the tribute include names like Keith Harring, Herberts, and Freddie Mercury.

I was going to say he's probably like the most famous person.

So probably it was, there was a Google in there.

Oh my God.

Do you think that they were looking for an image of someone else and accidentally put a picture of Luther Vandros or they really thought Luther Vandross died of HIV?

Ooh, could be either.

I think the second one.

This is humiliating, like for absolutely everyone involved.

And it just reminds me, like, how much I love Luther Vandros when I actually know nothing about him other than that one song.

That one song is enough.

It's enough.

Love a person forever.

Dance with my father again.

Like, so beautiful.

Like, I used to listen to that song before my dad was dead and like tear up.

And now it's just like so appropriate.

It's like a song that you actually can't listen to if you just want to be able to carry on with your day.

It's a song that you can't listen to if you just want to be able to carry on with your day.

She said what she said.

Things to do.

I can't debuggle.

Lives to lead.

Businesses to run.

That song will cripple you.

It's like your day just comes to a screeching halt.

No, it's kind of like your life comes to a screeching halt.

We feel that way about what Ben Platt sang.

I haven't listened to it in forever.

I literally can't.

In case you don't live forever, let me tell you now.

I love you more than you'll ever wrap your head around.

I'm disassociating.

In case you don't live forever, let me tell you the truth.

I'm everything that I am because of you.

I can't have chills on my side.

My body accepted a small chill.

That's as far as we'll go.

We should start a list of songs that we can't listen to if we want to move on with our days, you know?

Because right now it's those two.

Okay, I like that.

Is there any other song that comes to mind is crippling?

Like you, like, we'll just cry.

Cry.

I'll just call it cry songs, but I'll know if I search Luther Evangelist, it'll come up.

I actually like the title we had coming up.

It's too long, and I'm trying to move on with my day.

Oh, my God.

You know who probably has a list of all these songs?

Who?

Margot Washre.

Yeah.

She loves listening to these songs.

It's a form of self-harm.

It definitely is.

But she casts a wide net.

I'm thinking like she does.

She also listens to some that are just like sad emo in your feels, not like

I have to sit in a dark room today.

No, I love that Ben Platt song.

It's really good.

It's really good.

It's really beautiful.

Just know like I feel that way about you.

Stop.

I'm not having this conversation.

Like you're trying to bring me me to a place.

I know, I know, I know.

We can't come up.

Move on, move on, move on, move on.

Like, it's sad.

Like, no.

I feel that way about you too.

Stop.

Move on.

Stop.

Our next story is something that's really going to cause waves.

What is it?

And it's story number four.

Cool.

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Wendy's announces dynamic pricing with increased menus

during busy hours.

It's like Uber surge.

So Wendy's.

I'm sorry, I don't like this.

Wendy's customers may face different prices depending on what time of day they go to the burger joint.

The fast food spot announced a plan to roll out dynamic pricing in 2025 during an earnings call in February.

Wendy's new price model will be similar to how ride-sharing apps like Uber or Lyft bump up their prices during increased demand.

Customers could be paying as much as $1 for a bacon at her during peak time, like the lunch rush, according to GMA segment that aired on Tuesday.

But other times times they could be spend like ten dollars No, okay, I just want to say like the recession has taken like this this has gone too far for real like we need someone to save us.

This is insane.

First of all, I like the idea if it's never gonna go up like if if you're going to a Wendy's in the four in the morning and nobody's there sure give me that burger for 50 cents like I actually like that.

Okay, sure, but if they're inverse gonna like make it expensive when it's busy like no I'm sorry and I think that this sets a really bad precedent like it's really crazy and I'm surprised nobody's thought to do it sooner because I'm sure it makes a lot of sense economically.

You can charge more than supply and demand, baby.

Yep.

But like this could disrupt the entire restaurant industry in a way that I don't like.

Yeah, no, no.

It's like actually really scary to think about.

How any restaurant, like when they're busier, like they have their just peak menu prices and then their regular menu prices.

Like I really don't like that.

And I think like, especially like a small, like Wendy's doing this, I'm sorry, it's unforgivable.

Like I could see a small business wanting to do this.

And

how can you even blame them during these, you know, dark economic times?

But this has gone too far for real.

I need an economist to come in and fix things because this is not okay.

Yeah.

It's crafty as hell, though.

The more I think about it, the more I'm like, this makes so much sense.

Cause also at peak times, like you hire more people, things cost more, like you need more workers, whereas in the middle of the night, you could just have one person and you can charge less.

But this would change everything.

It would change the course of history.

I think it would change things so much.

Like if every restaurant, I think it would actually change human behavior to the point that people would stop eating at regular times.

Like the meal times.

And like maybe people would start being awake in the middle of the night and sleep during the day.

Who I love.

Like

it could change, it could be one of these like actual cultural shifts.

Yeah.

If it catches on, like Wendy's doesn't have that impact if it just Wendy's is the one to do it.

But if it's successful for Wendy's and then other chains and then it trickles down to like small mom and pop restaurants, if it becomes like the norm, like I will die, first of all, like seriously, I'd be so mad.

And it would, it would be a seismic shift in humanity yeah in human behavior though i will say i feel like i eat at weird times of day so you think you could skirt this like i think i could and as an influencer it's kind of my duty to like do popular things at off hours like we get manicures in the middle of the day to make room for the girls who are done working at six o'clock and go right after so the boom at 6 30 we're not a part of right and we want to make space for them and hold space for them and so it's our duty to not show up when during like rush hours because we don't have to because we can make our own schedule right it's kind of like us being martyrs yeah yeah and maybe if more influencers did things such as that the duration they wouldn't have such a bad rap totally this is crazy i don't like it and i don't support it okay

let's stay tuned let's follow this story that's it's a developing story

Another developing story is our fifth and final.

Kind of like zap through those stories.

They were like kind of bad.

No, but actually, I've enjoyed our discussion on each of them.

I have had the time of my life fighting dragons with you.

This episode has been so much fun and I have nothing negative to say about the episode, just the stories.

Well, our fifth story is extremely negative.

Love.

Norovirus cases are surging in the U.S., especially in the Northeast.

So you guys, cases of norovirus are surging in the U.S., particularly in the Northeast where CDC data has shown a steady increase in people with the illness.

Now, if you're new here and you don't know like the importance of this specific virus to us and our family, please go listen to the episode.

It's actually me and Ben hosted it.

I think you were on maternity leave.

It's called

Questioning Every Fart with Ben's Offer.

And just to give yourself like a little bit of context of how this particular virus infiltrated my home and affected my family.

Affected your family.

Affected my family.

Oh, right.

I forgot about you.

Oh, yeah.

You were there.

Oh, my God.

The girl brought me norovirus.

When she was nine months pregnant.

No, I was like one month postpartum.

Oh, my God.

So first, norovirus is a very contagious virus that causes vomiting and diarrhea, parentheses, at the same time.

No, I really, I can't talk about it.

Anyone can get infected and sick with norovirus.

It's sometimes called the stomach flu or a stomach bug.

However, norovirus illness is not related to the flu, which is caused by influenza.

So you, let me just say one thing about norovirus at this time of year.

Like you will know if you have it.

There's no mistaking it.

And if you've never had it before, you'll know that you had it because it's unlike anything any human has ever experienced.

Like you can't even compare it to the stomach flu.

You can't even compare it to food poisoning.

It is 36 hours of hell.

And if you've never had it before, just know that if you feel like you're about to throw up, sit on the toilet.

Yeah, by the way, so Ben and I did this episode and like, it's, it is quite vulgar, but if it's important because this is like a public health issue.

And I, and when I said this on the podcast, the virus was running rampant in the northeast.

And so many people messaged me being like, thank you for this helpful tip.

So I'm going to say it again.

If you feel like you're about to throw up and you're on the toilet.

No, if you feel like you're about to throw up, like and you're standing.

And you're at, you can be standing, throwing up anywhere at the toilet, sit on the toilet.

Sit on the toilet and throw up into a bag or the garbage bin.

do not hover over the toilet leaving your ass exposed like you will regret it you will regret it because just because meaning because you're about to throw up it means you're also about to shit your pants so just keep that in mind do both you can be in total space for two things at once two things can be true you are gonna vomit but you're also gonna shit your pants so sit your ass down on the toilet and get a garbage bin Yeah, that's what will leave you with re-norovirus.

But I just like, I can't go through that again.

I think

that article, it said it was running rampant in the Northeast.

Yeah, so that's why you're saying that me.

By the way, when I saw that story, I was like, thanking heavens because I would catch it.

That just happens to me.

I was thanking the heavens that I decided to extend my trip and then go to St.

Bart's.

But here's the thing.

Like, if I've had it once,

am I immune?

No.

It's a seasonal thing.

It's like the flu.

You can get the flu every year.

Yeah, you can get the flu every year.

You are not immune to it.

No way.

But that's also because like the flu keeps changing.

Is norovirus changing?

Definitely, by the way.

And doesn't it make you happy to like think about like it norovirus is the great equalizer like celebrities get it so just think about austin butler like you know going to vomit and then accidentally pooping on the floor

i could see it

i feel like

i by the way like it's like funny to me that like

People like associate Notavirus with me.

Like, do you know, anytime it's in the news, people said, like, a thousand people tag me in TikToks, they send it to me in DMs.

Like, it's like, that's kind of my legacy yeah that's part of your brand and like it's beautiful turdy starter kit yeah norovirus claw clip i really love how we brought diet coke how we brought the holding two things at once space for two things like that was pure you couldn't have written a podcast better than that and i think it was the perfect way to end our time together i totally agree just the invisible string yeah of holding two things

holding space for two things at once holding space for two true things at once that's obviously going to be our title.

Holding space for two things at once.

I'll allow it.

You'll allow it.

Wow.

I only allow podcast titles to be like, they really shouldn't be more than four words.

And if they are, they have to be stellar.

And that one was.

Yeah.

I think that's all she wrote.

Like, the next time you hear from us, I'll probably be so bright red, but I'll be so happy that I took my trip to St.

Bart's because I'm like so excited.

Like.

I feel like when I get home from St.

Bart's, I'm really going to be sad.

Like right now, I have so much to look forward to.

And I'm just really excited about it.

So bittersweet.

So sad to be leaving you, do, fru and lu, but so excited for my trip.

So thank you for your hospitality.

Thank you for being here.

Your toasters, thank you.

And it's just been, it's an amazing time.

And I just, I don't even want to wrap up the show because that means like it's well and truly over.

Yeah.

And that's, that's sad.

Yeah.

Well, there's always Patreon, you guys.

If you're missing us, we'll be over there doing our thing, having fun, letting loose.

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Hope you guys have an amazing day.

We'll see you on Tuesday.

Love ya.

Bye.

Love ya.

Bye.

I need to say it too, you know.

What?

Like, I didn't say, love ya, bye.