One Rogue Incestuous Producer: Tuesday, February 13th, 2024

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Good morning, Millennials, and welcome back to the Toast.

Happy Tuesday.

I'm so honored that you've chosen to spend your day with us.

Yes, happy Tuesday, everyone.

Welcome back.

Whenever I'm here with the Jackson-Claude IRL, whenever I'm here, like the days aren't like days.

Do you know what I mean?

I don't feel like we need, like, at the beginning of every show, we need to have that conversation.

I don't know if it's just like the Florida lifestyle or the fact that I'm not home.

Yeah, but for those who are listening, they need to be reminded of the day, the significance of the the day.

And they're still experiencing the Tuesday.

Right.

So I think it would be a little selfish if we just willy-nilly the days of the week, which people have come to depend on us to know what day it is.

And selfishness is not something like anybody would ever use to describe me.

It's not in the DNA of this show.

No, and it's not an attribute I currently hold.

No.

No.

Is the selfishness in the room with us?

Perfect execution.

Thank you so much.

And to answer your question, no.

The selfishness is not in the room with us.

But what is in the room with us is us.

I'm so glad you brought that up.

I really am.

I thought you were going to say what's in the room with us is our new lights.

Our new lights.

If you're watching on YouTube.

We'll know immediately, like when the video is done and it's up, like if this was a sleigh.

Yeah, I bought some new lights.

We bought some new lights.

We went to this fabulous store yesterday.

We drove.

Jackie drove us in her Tesla.

And there was a lot of driving.

There was.

The camera and lighting store was about 20 minutes away.

Like it wasn't just a hop, skip, and a jump.

It was no highways, but it was a journey.

It was a journey, but we found what we were looking for.

We did.

And I just don't know if I set them up correctly.

Like, you know, I am the IT department of the toast, but like, I'm extremely limited in my knowledge and my experience.

And I just kind of like make it up as I go.

And today was one of those experiences where I realized like, I know nothing about lighting.

It might need a little re-jiggering throughout the week.

I also feel like, would it kill us to just like find a lighting expert, like come here and help us?

No, it wouldn't.

Like.

If you...

Don't be afraid to ask for help.

Yeah, like, but what's a lighting expert?

But it's a thing.

Like the guy from the store was a lighting expert.

Yeah, but he didn't know what, like, we were really working on it.

And he didn't seem like he does like freelance lighting consultations.

No, he owned the store.

Like, he was really busy.

Yeah.

Whatever.

Nonetheless, all that to say, YouTube, we bought a new tripod and some new lights.

So as always, when I come down here, every episode will look a little different because I can't stop futzing with things.

Yeah.

And so every day it'll be a new angle, a new, you know, shadow.

It'll be a new something.

Just bear with us.

Like, I, this is how I express my like creative side.

I'm really just kind of an entrepreneur and a creative when it comes to production.

Would you say you're a creative?

No.

No, I wouldn't.

I'm like, I'm like literally wearing your pants.

Like I'm like the least or

okay, I was going to say like original.

I'm not like an original.

That's not the question.

Okay.

You know, like a creative, someone who's creating.

No, I'm not.

I don't think I am either.

I'm very right brain.

Yeah, and I don't think that like creatives watch as much TV as I do.

Do you know what I mean?

Hmm.

They're busy creating?

Right.

And like, you know, sketching on their iPad.

Like getting or one of those like tablet things.

Yeah, and I've never had a um

What is that thing called um

stylist oh my god literally how did you know that that's what I was thinking of because you went like that.

Yeah, I think you're gonna say a wand

Yeah, I've never had a stylist for not for clothing clearly stylist stylist like one of those pens therefore I am not a creative right And I don't think you can truly consider yourself like a creative slash art director type of person creative director if you don't own or have never owned a stylus.

I think that's that's fair and i don't make the rules that's just like the rule the rule i didn't make it but you're enforcing it no no i'm just sharing it inevitable

question mark

um that was jackie quoting my award-winning comedy special that you can watch on prime video it's called lean in i have a couple favorite quotes even though i haven't even like jackie isn't even so like jackie does not support women in comedy i haven't watched the whole thing because i was watching it and you were mad at me for watching it in front of you okay jackie like the day my special came out was like oh let me watch it.

I'm like, oh, okay, cool.

Can you go into the other room?

No, I'll sit my ass right in the living room, watch it on loud in front of all the kids.

Like mortifying.

I just watched the Barbie movie.

Like I'm going to be a few minutes, a few.

Yeah, you don't have the bandwidth right now.

I don't have the bandwidth right now.

I am catching up on Southern Charm, though, in my free time, and reading Josh Peck's book.

Ever since I stopped pumping, I have the time to do

I can do one of those two things.

I'm so glad you're reading Josh Peck's book.

I talk about Josh Peck's book like I wrote it.

I do.

So that's why I was like, I'm just going to read the damn book.

Let me tell you why.

And you get a lot of your insights about child stars and addiction from the book.

And I like insights.

It is my reference point for a lot of like addiction-based commentary that I make.

And him and Jeanette McCurdy's book is really how I know so much about child acting.

That's very true.

I also just think it's the perfect memoir, like from someone who came out on the other side, who's been through a lot, but who's also like a...

part of our childhood and who gives you really good insights and like he's very um transparent about the money which i really appreciated that was one of my favorite parts of of the book, like how little money you make as a child actor.

So it's so good.

But does your love for the book sort of conflict with your hatred of the good guys?

Hatred of the good guys.

Oh my God.

So Ben, you know, non-supportive king, never listens to the show.

And of course, like the toasters were DMing him about like our one-sided imaginary beef with the good guys.

And he was like, what is like, what is this about?

And I was explaining to him, like, oh, it's just like funny.

And honestly, like at the end of the day, like, we're using our platform to promote your podcast.

Like, it's all good.

Ben was like offended.

I'm like, okay, grow up.

Like, it's a joke.

Snowflake.

Yeah, literally.

It's giving sensitive alert.

I'm like, oh, really?

You're going to do that?

Okay, I'll stop.

I'll stop talking about your podcast.

Oh, someone can't even clown on good guys anymore?

No, he's taking away my joy.

No, once I said, like, I'll stop talking about your podcast.

He was like, no, it's fine.

Yeah, keep talking about it.

I had Terry Dubrow on this week.

Ben was

in.

One thing about Ben is like, he's familiar with the Bravo universe and the ancillary characters, but for years, he has had this like real interest in Terry Dubrow, mostly because he thinks he looks like this guy we know, but also because Ben is just like obsessed with him.

He's like a Jewish Dr.

King.

And I think Ben was like actually starstruck because Terry was in New York.

Usually Ben will go to LA for the guest episodes or he'll just be like the remote loser co-host who no one listens to.

But Terry was in New York and Josh was kind of like the loser co-host who no one was listening to for a change.

And Ben was definitely like got home and he was very like giddy.

He's like, he's just so impressive.

Like, and Terry's business is really impressive.

Like, of course, the doctor thing, but then botch and they had like all these skincare lines.

And Ben was just like really kind of taken with Terry.

That's what a good podcast guest should leave you with yeah you should leave every good interview being like obsessed with that person yeah that's classic podcast interviews whenever i listen to other people's episodes that's literally what it is like people becoming best friends and me watching them you know it's like such a thrill yeah but i guess that's a sign of a good one a good guest you really should get along no and you know like when two people aren't vibing and like they don't promote each other's episodes and like it was just not good yeah I love that.

Speaking of fellow podcasters, we started training for the 5K.

I forgot about that.

I kind of blocked it out because I flopped.

Like I really flopped.

Who did not flop?

So Jackie and I went to the gym with like the same goal, I thought, which was to do our first Soto stride.

I've actually done one.

So I was like a little bit ahead of like two.

So our trainer, Hillary, I told you guys, is putting together like a plan for us.

And she's basing it off of what she thinks I can do.

So we're obviously starting slow.

Like she's not dumb.

And so the first Soto stride, we have three months.

She said, month one, I'm going to get you really comfortable running a mile.

Month two, two miles, month three, three miles.

And so the first Soto stride is like this 12 minute exercise where we're gonna end up running slash walking a mile and we did it and i was like so i'm like yes we did it and then i got off the treadmill and like continued on with my workout i did like a little virtual class and jackie like stayed on the treadmill and i was like oh that's cute of her um we left the gym and she was like okay i did the 5k i'm like excuse me like you didn't even like you kind of just like like did it behind my back honestly i I wasn't my plan.

You, you went behind my back.

But the first mile went really well.

And when I go to the gym, I like to work on the treadmill.

Like, I'm still in my cardio era.

Like I, you know, I'm trying to shed.

So I would have been doing the treadmill anyway.

And then after we did that first mile, I was like, let me see how long I can run for.

Cause you had just said you accomplished running for one song.

And I was like, can I run for one song?

Right.

I was bragging slash lying.

And then I did four minutes when I really did three.

And then I was like, let me see how many songs I can run for.

So I did one song and I was like, I think I can make it, I can continue.

I did two.

And then I was like finishing two.

I got into three.

And then I was so close to almost at a mile that I was like, okay, my new goal is running one mile.

This bitch ran for 12 minutes straight.

So I did a 12 minute mile.

Crazy.

That was my second mile.

What like speed?

Between five and 5.5.

So a jog.

The thing is, is like running a 5K on a treadmill, it's so helpful.

Like the speed numbers, I don't know how we would do an IRL.

We could.

Like on the street, we don't know like what speed are we going?

No, then you have to measure your output.

Like, am I exerting a level five, six, seven?

Like a 10 is a sprint.

Right.

A six is a jog.

Not, by the way, I feel feel like it's different for girls, boys, and how tall you are.

Like for me, like a five or a six is a full-blown sprint.

Like my legs can't keep up with me.

Maybe that's just because I'm out of shape.

So what's a 10?

I couldn't, I would die, I would fall off the treadmill at a 10.

You have to personalize the chart.

Are you talking about 10 speed?

No.

Oh, oh, oh.

I'm talking about, you know, like, you know,

16 level.

Understood, understood.

Yeah.

Understood.

Okay.

So my 10 would be like, breakneck sprint.

Yeah, yeah, where like you literally can't, like, your legs are just going.

six seven is joggy so also to say jackie ran a full-blown 5k yesterday like this thing this mountain that i'm trying to climb she just like did it behind my back while i was like doing an arm exercise then i said to turdy like try to go on the treadmill and see how far you can go even if you have to walk the whole time you could do three and point one miles yeah i haven't done like the 5k to completion and i don't know if i can I think that you can.

It just might take you a while because you might have to walk a lot.

Right.

So yesterday I did running and walking.

I did the 5k in 42 minutes.

Which I feel like if we showed up to the 5K, wherever it's going to be and we like slayed in 42 minutes, I think people would be really impressed.

Right.

I feel like that's respectable, but I could bring it down, but we will be running side by side.

Oh, yeah.

We had this conversation yesterday, too.

Leave you and you could make friends without me or vice versa.

Yeah, no, no, no, no.

Whatever we do, we do it together.

Even though like by the time the 5k comes, I'm hoping we're like on the same level.

Yeah.

Because we're doing the same training.

Like I'm really hoping.

I just think you should try.

You should give yourself a little more credit.

Even though I liked Hillary's plan because like slow and slow wins the race and like to build up to it, you'll crush a 5k by May.

But you should just see where you're at right now, how long it would take you.

Like, gun to my head, if I had to run a 5k right now, what would my time be?

Right, and then you'll see how far you come by how long it takes you in May.

Okay, I like that idea.

Tomorrow, I did plan on trying like a full-blown 5k.

I have a blowout right now, I couldn't do a 5k.

Like, I needed we have to preserve, so I'm gonna go swimming today, so I'm gonna have dirty hair anyway.

Tomorrow,

oh my god,

we're not recording the audio, but we are recording the video.

Does the audio go in if we don't press?

Let's find out.

Let's stop.

Oh,

I think that it does.

I think that it does too.

But let's just check.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Crisis averted, you guys.

Oh, my God.

I seriously would have jumped.

I'd like I would have, you would have been allowed to kill me, but you couldn't because I would have already done it myself.

No, and if you weren't here, then we couldn't redo the episode, but it actually would have been fine.

No, no, that was my fault.

Usually we have to press record on the camera and on the audio.

And today, I don't know why.

I was just like,

I'm clearly not feeling myself because i was anti-audio i was anti-audio

so what were we saying oh the 5k

so journey has begun i feel like getting started is the hardest part and i'm really proud of us yeah i'm feeling really good about it i hope that it happens but

i don't envy burton tom because like how do you get land for a 5k

the track i don't know yeah you have to like shut down streets no so i imagine like why they haven't told us where it is yet is not because it's not real it's because like it's hard to plan.

Yeah.

And

I feel confident.

Like I'm glad we started.

I'm glad we have a lot of time.

Like I don't feel rushed.

I feel good.

And we'll keep you updated on our progress.

We definitely will.

And feel free to train alongside us.

Yes, I did hear rumblings.

Amongst the community that the toasters were thinking of running a 5k that day in solidarity with us.

Oh my god, that's so cute.

Whether it's on a treadmill in their neighborhood.

Oh, and I did get to see Jackie's gym where you've been, you know, shredding.

And it's a gorgeous facility.

Thank you.

It's crazy how different gyms are like in New York and Florida because you you just have like space here.

You're not like climbing on top of someone on the treadmill.

Yeah, it was just, it was so civilized.

I enjoyed my time.

I'm so glad.

Yeah, it's a peaceful place.

It's a peaceful place.

It's a peaceful place.

And it just, you know, what it was giving?

Gym.

You know, classic gym.

Not like Equinox.

Like, New York gyms are so like, it has to look like a spa.

It's not a spa.

It's a terrible place.

It's a gym.

It like smells like a gym in a good way.

Like equipment.

It was just giving like, I don't know.

Okay.

You know what it was giving?

No.

I

can't, I can't explain what it was giving other than just gym.

Yeah.

That's what it was giving.

I think we should get into the day's tasks.

The task ahead.

We have some good stories.

We have some Super Bowl follow-up tings.

Love.

And we have a hilarious story that I can't wait to talk about, Alyssa Milano, correct?

Right.

I requested that story.

I saw it on Twitter.

I was cackling.

One of my favorite tropes in media is celebrities asking their fans for money.

Yeah.

Like in a charitable way.

It's just an interesting donations.

Yes.

Yeah.

So without further ado, here are the past five stories that you need to know.

That was actually the wrong adieu.

It should be, it's a do.

Oh no.

Not IEU.

Don't be so self-critical.

Like they're confusing.

And now I say it all the time in the show.

Do better.

Do better.

Ado better.

Do better.

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Yeah.

Well, um, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, um, our first story, Super Bowl celebrations, Taylor Den Travis hit the clubs with her parents yes taylor swift made a tick tock she didn't i was scrolling tick tock and you know when like you're what this happens to me a lot sometimes on tiktok more and more frequently because i've been seeing so many people like making original content about the toast and when i first see the piece of content i kind of disassociate i'm like wait why are these people talking about me and i'm like wait that's my sister like you know what i mean it's like and then i saw this video i'm like wait this looks like taylor swift would have taken this video because it's like right and then i was like oh wait it is it one thing about taylor and what i think what is part of her you know appeal is um she's kind of like a grandmom.

She's really a millennial, like in a lot of senses.

And especially every time she's made probably 10 TikToks, everyone is worse than the next.

Like it's so millennial.

It's chug, too delicious.

She is.

It's hard to make a TikTok original content.

You're telling me.

You're telling me.

Yeah.

So

there are a lot of cute videos and stuff from the party.

The You Belong With Me, which we talked about yesterday, but a new angle came out of Travis.

And a new song.

They also played Love Story.

Yes.

We had seen that yesterday.

Oh, did we?

They were dancing dancing to Love Story for a second.

Yeah.

And then Travis was in the DJ booth with the chain smokers.

A new angle just dropped where he sings, why can't you see?

Are you in love with me?

And then he said, you belong with me.

I

love, like, I am.

still sort of wrapping my mind around the accessibility we have to these very private moments.

And it's coupled with the like the fact that I think Taylor cares a lot less.

Like she's not in this like crazy private relationship, but also like the NFL, the nature of everything they go to is just public and they know that.

I'm having such a hard time wrapping my mind around it.

It's, it feels like a parallel universe.

It's so different.

And these videos, I'm just like, I...

I can't digest them.

Like, it's crazy.

It is.

I'm one, curious to see like how public they are after this.

Cause now, like, when she was going to a game every weekend, it's like

she had no choice but to be public.

So it'll be interesting to see how much they choose to share after this.

Two, like not to be,

not not to underestimate him but I feel like

him changing the lyric was more so like a flubbing of the lyric than oh wow that's a heinous accusation than like you know putting his own spin on it intentionally okay

well but but it turned out to be cute but I just feel like he might have mixed it up okay I'm actually glad you brought that up because there was a moment there during the week leading up to the Super Bowl, there was like so many cringy moments from reporters asking Travis like really inappropriate questions.

And so many of them went viral and people were like, as they should, shaming the journalists.

Like it was really, it was abhorrent behavior.

And one of the girls, female reporters was like, Travis, finish the lyric.

Karma is the.

And he was like, guy on the Chiefs.

Yeah.

And she kept singing and then he like didn't answer for the next one.

He was like, all right, next question, which he should have said because it was embarrassing, but like maybe he didn't know it either.

I don't think he knew it either.

He said guy on the Chiefs because that's the time he heard the song.

Right.

Which, by the way, I think in general is better that he doesn't like sit there on AZ lyrics, learning all the lyrics like anything.

He could just be like a casual, just supportive of her, not such a fan.

And I think for Karma, it's a newer song.

I don't know how much he listened to Midnight.

So I think it's fine.

Guy on the Chiefs, that's the one he knows.

And he's probably watched that video over and over again.

But I think there's a chance that he got a little confused, which is along with me.

But that's a hot take.

Like, because everyone else was like, oh my God, it's a declaration of love.

I don't think so.

Yeah.

No, I could definitely see that being the reality.

Like, but the ends justify the means.

Like, it doesn't matter.

And it was really cute.

And actually, it's cuter.

You know, sometimes the best things happen.

A happy accident.

A happy accident.

It's cuter that he changed the lyrics to be something so sweet, but I think that he thought that's what it was.

I like that.

Because then also he reverts back to you belong with me after.

Like, oh, right, right.

No, I like that.

And I don't know if he's someone who just like makes up lyrics on the fly and changes songs.

Yeah, no, no.

It's so us.

It is something we would do.

It's something we do.

No, and also like he's so drunk, obviously.

Like the, you just not, the creative juices aren't flowing.

Yeah, but they were, they, they were.

I didn't realize until Taylor posted that like unbelievably amazing TikTok that she did bring her parents.

And I always forget that these two are divorced because they always like show up together and there's never been any like drama or anything.

They just like quietly, you know, separated.

Um, and it's just like an interesting fact, you know?

I wonder what Taylor's like personal experience with that was because she is just like hopeless romantic.

Yeah.

A lot of people are children of divorce, but I do find like the people I know whose parents get divorced later in life, it's like much harder for them to experience it as opposed to being like an eight-year-old.

You're like excited about having, you know, two bedrooms.

Yeah.

And she's so, I feel, I think she probably puts so much emphasis on her parents' relationship and like was looking for that.

And I wonder like what that, and she never like wrote a song about it or anything because it's their life and she totally respects their privacy.

But I do wonder like what that experience was like for her.

Like was it earth shattering?

It could it has the potential to be unless

I could see it being earth-shattering for her.

Yeah, unless the writing has been on the wall for a number of years, you know what I mean?

Unless like you're like mature enough to realize like your parents are so much better off apart.

Yeah, and it was not great for a while.

I don't think there was like a big scandal where, you know, Andrea cheated.

No, but like if your parents hide everything from you and then one day you wake up and you're like, we're getting divorced and you're like, what?

So everything I saw was a lie.

Yeah.

Oh, that can be earth-shattering.

I guess.

Right.

But if they were always fighting and it's like, can you guys just not get divorced?

Yeah.

Yeah.

She's never spoken or sang about it.

And I do wonder because she's one of those girls I feel like who would put a lot of like emphasis and

like she would want that, you know?

Yeah, but Travis is also a child of divorce.

Are they divorced?

Yeah, I think so.

Oh, I didn't know that.

They're never together.

Wait, double check because I had never heard that before, but it's possible.

She's always like a solo.

Wait, Mama Kelsey's a single independent woman.

We have to get her a boyfriend.

Yeah.

What do we by the way?

What about Scott?

Right?

She's just a wife swap.

It would be like they're not married.

Oh, that is fascinating.

I never knew that.

Yeah.

Have you ever seen them together?

I feel like the dad is like

on the outs?

Not on the outs because he's around sometimes, but like he doesn't have mama Kelsey status.

Wait, I'm like really shook by this information.

I feel like that's something I could have bonded over.

For sure.

But they should wife swap.

They should wife swap because like the dads look alike and the moms look alike.

Yeah.

Honestly.

Would that be gross?

Like, no.

No, I feel like if they did wife swap, then eventually Taylor and Travis, like, if they broke up, it would be like, but they got together so that's purpose that two loves could

prosper.

And it would be beautiful.

But yeah, I don't think they could all, and we're, I don't think they could wife swap and Taylor and Travis also get married.

It's giving like Rufus, Lily, Dan, and Serena.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's also giving like Sharon Josh, kind of.

Yeah.

The Sharon Josh thing, like, I feel as a society, we don't talk about enough.

Like,

there's nothing wrong with it, but it's beyond strange.

No, it was a weird way to go.

Because Shara's dad is not Josh's dad, but he was a father figure.

But, like, why couldn't Josh have just been like an intern?

Yeah, a clerk at the lawn.

An associate.

I completely, like, it was so unnecessary.

It was so unnecessary.

That he had a familial connection to Shara's dad.

Yeah.

And like, as a kid, I never noticed it.

And I remember like the first time I watched Clueless as an adult, and it clicked for for me that like there was this weird familial bond.

I'm like, wait, that's weird.

You don't think it was like subliminally trying to get us

to like make

incest digestible.

Oh, you think it was like Hollywood's demonic side coming out?

Um, no, I, I know, because the movie's not demonic.

No, but it was so unnecessary.

Like, it kind of feels like a conspiracy theory.

It feels intentional.

What the fuck?

Just trying to like warm us up to the idea.

Yeah, like to slowly dip our toes in the incestual pond.

Yeah.

I think you're onto something.

I don't know, but the rest of the movie is no, I don't see any other demonic influences.

Now we have to look at it through the demonic lens.

Through the demonic lens.

I don't know.

She was like in the valley at a party wearing like, you know, devil red, and then she gets robbed.

There.

I don't know.

I don't know enough about like Satan.

I actually don't know anything about like Satan.

I obviously know the word Satan, but I don't know like the religious meaning behind it.

Yeah, because people get very, very offended by like satanic cultures.

Yeah.

Demon energy.

They're just talking about this because of of the Ice Spice thing.

Right.

Because people are saying she's demonic.

And like, I really don't know anything about it, except that it's like really bad in Christianity to like worship the devil.

Yeah.

And like devil, Satan, and demon are all the same.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Synonyms.

It's like, you know, God, Hashem,

Lord.

Yeah, exactly.

That's how I see it.

So I don't know enough about it.

But they were saying that Ice Spice was throwing up demonic symbols and she was wearing an upside-down cross, which is like

satanic.

Enough to comment on it, but I do know that probably in the early 2000s, the producers of Clueless were trying to put demonic energy onto the youth of America.

I don't think so.

You were the one who just brought that up.

No,

I posed the question and now I'm going to answer my question and say, I don't think so.

I think maybe like one producer had like a little inkling for incest.

Yeah.

And they were like, what if we just

made it the brother?

I agree.

But not, I don't think it was a top-down thing.

Oh, you don't think it was like a coordinated attack?

Systemic, no.

Like, it wasn't giving Josie and the Pussycats a little bit of messaging?

No, no, no, no.

Where would we be without that movie?

We don't know.

I think it was just giving like one errant incestuous man.

All it takes is one bad egg.

It's always a man.

Of course.

No, by the way, we weren't thinking it was a female producer.

Don't worry.

Like, it was.

Even the movie was made by a woman.

It was made by a woman?

Like, there's one woman heavily associated with the movie.

Who?

You'll know her name if I said it.

But it wasn't.

It wasn't her who had the incestual idea.

I don't think so.

Me neither.

I think that Amy

Heckerling.

I've never heard of this woman.

No, you would.

She does other stuff too.

She may be like Pitch Perfect.

That's so cool.

Best Times at Ridgemont High.

Oh, she sounds like a queen.

Yeah, she's a queen.

Every time she does something, they're like, and the woman from Clueless, you know, she's kind of just like, oh, really?

I've traded.

I've never heard anyone say that.

Really?

Yeah.

I feel like...

I feel like I always see her doing stuff.

She's like tied to projects.

I feel like you're making that up.

No,

I'm not.

What was the story?

She's in, she did your favorite movie.

What is my favorite movie that I'm like?

Oh, you're making like a joke about it.

Okay, it's not your favorite movie, obviously, but it's a movie that you really appreciate.

I don't know.

What is it?

Look who's talking.

By the way, that is my favorite movie.

And look who's talking to.

Not enough people talk about it.

She did Look Who's Talking To also.

John Travolta, Kirstie Alley, and A Talking Baby.

It is the greatest movie.

I need to watch that movie.

Actually, maybe I don't.

Maybe it won't age as like I used to love it as a kid.

Like, maybe I should just let it be.

Let it be.

Yeah.

Let it be.

Let it be.

Are you ready for our next story?

Is it a little small on a no?

Just a little more Super Bowl news that's pertinent, which is that Super Bowl 2024 was the most watched telecast of all time.

Okay.

Reaching 123.4 million viewers.

I want to ask you a question.

Does every year top the year before?

So is this considered impressive?

This is impressive, but that's how it's been the last few years.

Okay.

um before this the biggest telecast of all time was last year's super bowl game between the chiefs and the eagles and then before that was the super bowl before

right so it's just like one it's something that just keeps topping one another but i also could see it eventually you know lowering yeah if it didn't stay relevant and right right was was this like a major growth from last year like can

From years prior like did Taylor have an impact in that way?

Definitely.

115 million to 123 million i feel like there's eight million swifties and you know what's so crazy when you think about it that's 123 million televisions i would argue like at least four people are watching because people have parties like yeah but you know what these rating rankings ratings are so fuckocked i actually think they include like three people per household yeah so it's the largest audience ever the um it was measured paramount plus nickelodeon univision cbs sports and nfl digital properties plus cbs in general what about like youtube tv where we watched it that would be CBS broadcast.

Oh, yes.

It was CBS channel.

Yeah.

But a lot of people are talking about the Nickelodeon broadcast, which was like they had a Super Bowl.

They had the Super Bowl playing, but then they had like kid cartoon type of MCs explaining stuff.

Apparently it was hysterical.

Oh my God, we should have watched it.

And like people were saying it was like so creative and so different and they put so much thought into like the graphics and it really people are lauding it as a huge and i think this was the first time they ever did it on nickelodeon that's That's so cute.

We should have watched it.

No, like we shouldn't have, but.

That was like when they did the London game and they also

had it as a cartoon game.

I don't know if you saw this.

So when they played in London a few months ago, the,

I don't know what the technology is, probably some AI, but it was a, the set looks like Toy Story, like in Andy's room.

It was, there was like a football field and the players were playing football.

And it was like the toys.

It was mirroring the real game.

It was mirroring the real game.

The toys were playing the football game.

I I wonder, like, how the commercials worked on Nickelodeon.

Was it the regular Super Bowl commercials?

It would be a good opportunity to do separate commercials for kids.

For kids, right.

For kids' products.

Right, like Baba Finn.

How do we not know about that?

Know about what?

Like, that Nickelodeon was doing that.

Like, I told you.

I knew.

When did you know?

When it was on.

Like, everyone was on the corner.

Why didn't we know about it ahead of time?

Like, why wasn't that?

That should have been a story.

That's my I'll take that on the chin.

Yeah, yeah, it's you, it's your fault.

But I will just say that it didn't get on the desk.

It didn't cross my desk.

And that says a lot.

It does say a lot.

But it was really cute.

Like people are saying like it was, it was so pure and like really well done.

And it was like funny for the parents too.

Yeah.

And you still got to watch the game.

It was the real game on TV.

Yeah.

And for us, like it was, the game started at 6.30.

Like that's not bedtime.

The kids watched the story.

It was.

So

that would have been super cute.

Glad that the ratings are still going up.

Not surprising at all.

I feel like football is more relevant than ever.

Agreed.

In the culture.

So that's great.

And you love to see, you know, records being broken.

I feel like everything, the numbers are always going down, especially like with award shows.

Yeah.

I didn't realize the Super Bowl was the biggest telecast.

I had never thought of it.

If you would have asked me, what do you think is the most watched television event of the year?

And I sat through, I probably would have said the Super Bowl, but I didn't know for sure that it was.

But it's like, it's by the by the hundreds.

Like there's not, there's not even a close second.

Yeah.

I think the close second is like the games.

Oh, like the leading up games.

Yeah.

I thought you were going to say like

probably like the news on election night or something.

Like, I don't know.

But still, that's split between a bunch of different chapters.

Right.

We'll pull up that another time.

Yeah, yeah.

I'm not like, I'm not that interested.

I can't lie.

But I think it's like in the college sports games.

I think it's sports games.

You think it's sports rule?

Yeah.

Sports is kind of like the only thing that keeps a lot of people paying for cable.

I would say most people.

Yeah, but now they have all this like Hulu Live Sports.

By the way, I saw HBO Max.

HBO MX now.

Can you watch a nick game?

I was like, what?

I just paid $30 for MSG Plus like a moron.

Hate to see it.

Hate to see it.

Now, our next story.

Alyssa Milano has been blasted for attending Pricey Super Bowl 2024 with son after asking for money for his baseball team.

She took her son to the Super Bowl, what, a week after posting online asking for donations for his baseball team.

Yes.

She shared a photo of her and her son.

His name is Milo from their seats at Allegiance Stadium.

She said, my buddy, hashtag mothers on love, mother's son, love.

Mother's on love, yeah.

Mother's son bond.

Super.

Mother's on bond.

Mother's.

I mean, it's, there's no, there's no knowing what she means.

It's a calindrum.

Yeah.

And then people were quick to take to the comments.

This is what the GoFundMe was for because she had just put up a GoFundMe for her son's travel baseball team, a fund so that they could travel to a game or whatever.

Now, this is so layered.

One, I actually saw an amazing TikTok.

A content creator went to the Super Bowl and asked like random people how much they paid for tickets.

And it was just like, wasn't celebrities.

It was just regular folk.

I think the cheapest one, I saw a lady said she spent $8,500.

Everyone else was $13,000, $12,000.

This article says that the cheapest tickets that we're ever able to purchase were $2,000.

That's insane.

So just like, keep that in mind.

Yeah.

I, and this always, I'm always going to reference when Lady Gaga did it, her dad's restaurant, which is actually pretty popular.

It's in Grand Central Station.

It's like an oyster bar.

There was a fire or something.

It was a GoFundMe.

Was it COVID?

Something.

There was a GoFundMe made for this restaurant, which, you know, of course, sounds like a nice thing when you realize the owner's, you know, daughter is Lady Gaga.

It's like, girl,

I think they were trying to raise like 50 grand.

Like Lady Gaga could fart 50 grand.

So it was just people were, you know, rightfully questioning it.

It is a weird thing that celebrities should not do.

Like when, even when they post like GoFundMes for like, I remember I feel like Kylie just did it.

Yeah.

for her makeup artist.

Makeup artists.

There was Megan Fox.

Yes.

Her nail artists.

I think now that we're looking at them at a glance, I think that it's different when it's someone you're related to versus

a friend.

Like a lady gaga, like a help out your dad.

Of course.

Alyssa Milano.

And also, it's like, when you think about Alyssa Milano's sons league, the people who probably play in the league are of similar ilk

to Alyssa Milano.

Like it's based on like neighborhood and stuff.

Like it's a nice, I'm sure it's a nice league.

No, but it's like everybody has their kids' baseball league that they're raising their money for.

And they don't ask Alyssa Milano to contribute to it.

No, it's so true.

It's it's wrong.

It's wrong.

It's wrong candy bars.

Like, don't use your mom's Instagram.

It's wrong.

It's just unnecessary.

Especially given these dark economic times, like read the room, Alyssa Milano.

I don't know how much money Alyssa Milano does or doesn't have.

Like, I don't think she can just like pick up the tab for the whole baseball team.

So I'm glad you brought that up.

But like, don't bring it to people who have their own baseball teams to worry about.

Alyssa Milano herself is like currently, is she the most booked actress on the planet?

No.

She has a lot of, you know, prior success.

She does get booked a lot.

And I do believe she has a very successful husband.

okay he's like a hollywood agent okay so this is not someone who's having trouble making ends meet and also you know she's a social media queen like always like coming for people she should read the room like a little bit like

you know take the temperature think to yourself take a step back how would it look me a big hollywood star asking my twitter followers for money for my son's baseball team like right and then it's also So you have to measure like the relation to the celebrity and also the cause.

Right.

It's not, you know, a hurricane rebuilding.

It's not, it's your son's baseball team so they could stay at a five-star hotel.

hotel like it's really it is beyond out of touch and it's hilarious that people are like no it's entirely possible I think a lot of celebrities who went to the Super Bowl spent no money well so this is separate I just that was about the gofundme in general you know

it's not right it's not right yeah but it's also like say the team's putting together a gofundme they're trying to get outreach oh we have someone who has a big social media account maybe she could post it but it's still like why should other people pay for your kid to play baseball it's wrong no they shouldn't wrong so it's wrong also after evaluating really wants to play baseball like there are leagues that require no travel after evaluating all of the elements

wrong it was a wrong to post but as even though i still feel like the megan fox thing especially once she explained

it i think it was okay i agree even though it's different even though it didn't really work out i don't know how much how successful it was but i understand the inclination every situation it's situational so situational we're talking about this particular situation and it's wrong As it pertains to the Super Bowl, I don't think these two things are like immediately in conflict with one another, but it does just like highlight to people, like, it's weird.

What the first thing, like, let's say you wake up one day, you see Alyssa Milano posting on social media asking for money.

And then later that day, you see her at the Super Bowl with her son, who she was raising money for.

When the Super Bowl has been historic in its expenses, and it's in Vegas, and there's private chats and sweets and tickets.

Like.

It's weird.

Yeah, it's wrong.

It was already wrong.

And then this just like makes it look worse.

But if you dig deeper, it's like she probably didn't pay for tickets.

I think most celebrities didn't.

And it doesn't add or take away from the fact that the initial GoFundMe was just not necessary for her to post.

Of course.

These two things like

separate.

Yeah.

But I could.

But when put together, it looks hella weird.

Yeah.

But

it's crazy how much the Super Bowl tickets were.

We were saying like everyone in that stadium is a millionaire.

Jackie said during, it was actually a great call during the Super Bowl, she was like, because we were talking about like how expensive it was and like how there there was like a they had to almost close down the private airport because there were too many private planes coming in.

And Jackie was like, so is everyone in that stadium, like even at the tippity tippity top, like a millionaire?

Like, so regular fans can't just like get a ticket.

And you know what?

Actually, I saw

Girl Boss Town actually posted about this, how like, you know, because it was in Vegas and there was that big Fanatics party and like Fanatics is a company for the fans, right?

And they had this like big celebrity party and it just felt so, the Super Bowl felt so like

not for the fans yeah and the tickets being ten thousand dollars like if you like especially when I think about people who like from the Bay Area who like have just been waiting for this like they never get to the Super Bowl the Kansas City fans are spoiled but like people who just like love football and how inaccessable and they live pretty close to Vegas it's not a terrible flight how inaccessible it was for like the real true football fans like it really does suck and how companies like Fnatics that are built for the fans having like Tom Brady and Kim like at their parties it's like it like kind of sucks.

Yeah.

It was a good point.

And so you're right.

Like everyone in the stadium being like a millionaire, even though I do think some people like literally spent like their savings on a ticket, which is insane too.

It shouldn't be like that.

And she was saying how it would be a really good opportunity, like next Super Bowl for any company, but she was talking about Fanatics, Scrollball Town, to like do a commercial or like a giveaway.

Like really bring the real fans, like bring like the OG people who have been the 80-year-old men who have never seen their team in the Super Bowl.

I agree.

And I'm sure there were some people in the stands who want a giveaway, but like, how do you do a giveaway on a large scale?

No, I don't know.

I want hundreds of fans.

Yeah, no, but like, how do you you also ensure like when the tickets go up for sale that like you're getting

like the people who've waited years and years and years to like see their team in the in the super bowl like that part kind of sucks i feel like each team could have you know like a pool reward you know if you've been signed up with a student you've bought merch like over the years they know you and you get like pre-sale like how taylor swift would right like and you get face value tickets Yeah.

It's interesting.

Like that part that kind of sucks.

Yeah.

And it's so great that everybody's like kind of obsessed with with football right now, yada, yada.

But they're like, you know, they're, I think of like old men who've been watching the same team for like 50 years and they finally get to see their team in the Super Bowl and like going isn't even an option.

Yeah.

Sucks.

Yeah.

It's gotten a little too, a little too big.

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Katie Perry is quitting American Idol after seven seasons.

Wait, I didn't know that.

I know.

I didn't realize she was there for seven years.

She made a low-key announcement on Jimmy Kimmel like last night.

She said, This fall in September, I'm going to be doing this huge music festival in Brazil called Rock and Rio.

So I think this will probably be my last season for Idol.

What does that have to do with Idol?

She probably couldn't do that.

It's one performance now.

I don't know.

Okay.

Objection, relevance.

I agree.

Okay.

She said, I mean, I love idols so much.

It's connected me with the heart of America, but I need to feel that pulse of my own beat.

That I get.

I feel like she has been

the best job for like a retired pop star.

It's also, I think, the best job for a new mom.

You know, you get to.

be in millions of homes.

You don't have to tour.

You make a lot of money.

You have a kind of a normal situation.

Nine to five.

You don't really go to the office.

It's actually probably been amazing for her.

But, and I think she's been like laying dormant as a pop star just kind of being in like her happy married mom era and maybe now like she's planning a comeback and you can't be on idle and be like the most relevant pop star you just can't like think about lionel ritchie luke bryan's very much like in his sort of he's definitely past his like crazy you know peak and so

i think it's kind of one or the other yes because the stability that idle provides also keeps you too tethered yep to be like the most relevant person on the planet and no and to be going here and there and doing your song and touring and promoting and just showing up everywhere.

Yeah, I think

in the seven years that she's been on

Idol, she hasn't released an album, but she's released like a few songs, like Harley's in Hawaii, yeah, Daisy, Daisy, like really like three or four, and nothing major.

And she does her shoe line.

I think she's probably been in like her sort of like stable, normal girl era, but that doesn't that you know you pop star can't can't keep a good pop star down, right?

So then Jimmy asked, like, what did Luke and Lionel say?

And she said,

she said, they'll find out tonight.

That's funny.

So end of an era.

It is.

I think it was a good run for her.

Even though she had a lot of controversies, this article like makes mention of, and we've spoken about a lot of them.

Whatever.

She actually had to take a hiatus at one point.

And she fans were saying that, like.

When she told that mom to get back on her back.

Yeah.

No, to stop, to get off her back because she already had three kids and she was like a really young mom.

Okay, like, it was a funny joke.

Like, everybody needs to calm down.

And I do think that Idol needs a harsh critic.

I'm sorry.

The show does not work without one.

And so even though when we analyze

the specific insults, it's like, oi,

it's a necessary evil.

I agree.

And she wasn't even like mean at all, but she was considered like the Simon.

It wasn't going to be Lionel and it certainly wasn't going to be Luke.

But

you have to think about where Katy Perry was before she went on American Idol.

Like, I think it was actually a life raft for her.

It was really necessary.

She was like a failing pop star.

Like she couldn't get arrested.

Bon Appetite.

Witness the album.

The blonde buzz cut.

Yanks.

Like she was actually in a really bad spot.

And I think American Idol was, I never would have expected her to stay as long as she did.

I think she actually just ended up liking the job, but it really settled her.

It got her into, you know, the homes of millions and millions of people.

And I think it showed a little bit more of her quirky side.

She took it too far sometimes, but I think it actually ended up being amazing for her.

You have to remember where she was.

Before.

No, and as a huge Katy Perry fan, like at point, she's been my Kelly Clarkson and where she was before Idol, like Flaw was not, like, I would not have listened to a new album from her.

Like, I was so over her.

So I feel like, even though I didn't even watch Idol, this period has been really good because now I'm excited for whatever she does next.

If she were to put out like new music, I would happily listen.

I've, I've come back around on like appreciating her.

Yeah, she was like kind of in like her Miley Cyrus and the Dead Pets era before Idol.

Idol gave her the opportunity to settle down.

She got married while she was on Idol.

She had a baby while she was on idol.

She grew her hair out while she was on idol.

She definitely like, it was this sort of rebirth for her.

I'm sure she looks at the experience as kind of like saving her career a little bit.

Yeah.

And really positive.

And you know what?

You, you can't stay there forever if you really want to be like, you know, it's funny how the voice is so different in the sense like you can be really hot and relevant and working and releasing new music and touring while also being on the voice.

Whereas American Idol is really like a retirement show.

Yeah.

But you're right.

They do need like a hard ass.

I don't know who they're going to replace her with.

And I do think that's interesting.

If I was a pop star, I feel like it's the best job on the planet.

You get paid so much money.

Okay, but then just like you said you're not super relevant and buzzy okay you're not super relevant and buzzy but you're super famous because you're in so many homes you're on every like airport television it's a different level of fame it's not hot and buzzy and you know paparazzi but it's like everlasting for sure but you wouldn't want the the buzz i think if i had been katy perry and had been so high and so low i would really really like appreciate and respect the the fame american idol gives you because it's so normal but would you be doing it would you continue or would you now i don't know resume career i could see her you know she's her kids maybe a little grown up now i could see her wanting to get back out there and as a fan i'm ready for her to resume her career for sure for sure but i do always think about how like remember when x factor was on and they had brittany and demi lovato i like

two people who both hated the job hated that's true actually couldn't have hated it more i think like if i could it choose a job like that would be a job i would and also i'd love to like watch and hear people saying you have to be the simon of course what if they said like you have to be the simon and you're gonna get backlash every week

Backlash is really hard to go.

But like we'll stand by you because you need to be.

Like you're not going to be fired.

You won't be fired, but like everyone will be mad at you.

Cancellations

all week.

Getting backlash, like it's not for the faint of heart, you guys.

It's really,

and I feel like I'm so much better now than I was, but I'm really not like great at receiving any sort of backlash.

Like it still like kills me.

I don't know.

It's a good, it's a good question.

And if we had more time, we could think about who would be the good replacement for her who also like needs to be tough.

Who needs to be tough and somebody who maybe needs like a reprieve from the spotlight.

Yeah.

I feel like it might be like it would never happen ever, but we're just talking fantasy land.

You know who I think would be great at it, who can get away with being tough and who definitely needs a break from like touring and can't really perform right now?

Ari.

Celine Dion.

Oh, yeah.

Because of her accent, like she could say something mean.

Yeah, it's true.

And she can't perform because of her, like, and it's just a job where you just sit.

Like,

and she would be, she would actually give very good advice.

Yeah.

Some people really need to be told, like, do not waste your time singing.

Like, it's not going to happen for you.

Like, go make a living doing something else before it's too late.

You know, who would also be good?

I don't think she would do it, though.

Adele.

Oh, she would be incredible, but she, she can't do it right now.

She's not right for it.

No, she's not right for it.

Unless they paid her $100 million.

Yeah, but she likes what she's doing.

She likes the Vegas.

She does.

When I went to go see her, she said, like, people think I don't like it because I had to like cancel the beginning or whatever.

She's like, I love this.

Like, I get to like raise my son Monday to Friday and just take a 45-minute commute to Vegas.

Like, she loves it.

That's awesome.

But she did also say at a recent show I saw it made news, like, she's ready to do like a real tour.

She like hates that people have to come see her and she can't go to like see people.

Oh, that's nice.

Yeah.

Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

I really, really am.

Megan and Harry quietly launched the new Sussex.com website.

Oh my gosh.

And they're gonna notice giving

what the Togo.

What did she have that blog called?

The TIG?

The TIG.

So they quietly launched

their new website, Sussex.com, on Monday.

The site encompasses the latest news about the couple, bios for Harry and Megan, as well as links to their Archwell Foundation organization and Archwell Productions hub.

Okay, so it's like not like...

No, no, no, but there's already controversy within the website because it's very interesting what they've chosen to call themselves.

Well, it's interesting that their website is sussex.com.

And then if you look, so it's a picture of them overlaid with the office of Prince Harry and Megan.

So that's what they want to be known as.

Okay, well, that's interesting that she doesn't have a title.

And then it says the Duke of Duchess duchess in sussex oh the duke and duchess of sussex but so people are mad they use the coat of arms what's that like the little emblem this the uh emblem symbol yeah symbol that's like their royal symbol and it's like they're calling themselves the duke and duchess there's no mention of the monarchy on the site oh okay interesting yeah i

relate in the sense that like if i was megan like you bet your ass i'm still calling myself that but like is it respectful in terms of like that monarchy like should harry no better probably

but i don't know like you could not get that title out out of my cold dead fingers.

Like, I'm sorry, you couldn't.

You couldn't, but you also wouldn't have like relinquished it.

Oh, yeah.

And like, that's the other thing.

That's where Megan and I differ.

Like, I would have just like done anything to stay being a duchess and like living in a palace.

Um,

so yeah, I don't know.

I feel this is kind of like the crux, I think, of a lot of people's issues with Megan and Harry.

It's that, like, they want to reap all the benefits, um, but they did leave.

And also, like, what is the official ruling?

That's what I want to know.

Does this break a rule?

Are they allowed to call themselves themselves this?

Like, what is the royal decree?

Yeah, I do not know.

I do not know if when you abdicate your responsibilities, if you lose the titles, I do.

Who's the last person who abdicated?

What was his name?

Wallace, his wife.

Yeah.

What was his name?

Edward.

What did they call him when he left?

And he moved to Paris, right?

Yes.

So let's see.

What did, like, when they would, you know, what did his website say?

Like, I feel like there's no blueprint.

The Duke of Windsor.

So he.

Well, he got demoted then.

Hold on.

Because they would have.

Edward VIII, later known as the Duke of Windsor.

Okay.

So, but the thing is, at one point he was king.

And it's like when he left, he didn't still stay calling himself king.

Like, Harry's prince, and he left, and he stays calling himself prince.

Well, he, okay, wait, no, he left as duke, no?

No, he left as he was king for six months.

No, I'm talking about Harry.

Oh, Harry left as Duke.

Duke and Prince.

So him calling himself Prince, I think, is fine.

Him calling himself Duke, actually.

But he also left as prince he's always been a prince but he's always gonna be prince like

because why because I'm sure King Edward before he was king was duke he was a prince too

I don't know it's confusing and

I think it's also very like colloquial obviously prince harry is prince harry right we're not calling him that like as a royal highness we're calling him that because like his first name is prince what the hell is his last name like

uh windsor map out in windsor right and then first name prince last name harry so also megan has chosen to become a one-name wonder i'm sure she's also struggling with a little bit of a brand identity crisis because she's not markle because she's married and she would take her husband's name because she took it's such so what is she megan mountbout in windsor sussex is also like their last name because william and kate are the whales

excuse me it's low-key like

kind of crazy Like they don't have a name.

They don't have a name.

And so

they have a thousand names.

I think thousands of hours of brainstorming went into this copy.

I kind of love that she wants to be Megan, like share.

Yeah.

Like that's, that was a good call on her point, on her part.

One name wonder.

But like the thing is.

And they don't want to be Harry and Megan.

They want to be Prince Harry.

Prince Harry and Megan.

The thing is.

And also if he's a prince, then she should be a princess.

A website isn't going to change like how the people talk.

And the people call them Harry and Megan.

And they do, when they speak about her individually, because she has such a fabulous name, stage name, Megan Markle.

She's like, that is her name.

Yes, it's not going to change how people talk, but it's interesting how they want to be spoken of.

But I think the way people talk talk is like when speaking of them together, they call them Harry and Megan.

When speaking of him, they call him Prince Harry.

And when speaking of her, they call her Megan Markle.

I think that's like where we've all kind of landed.

Yeah, but then on the site, on the menu, there's about, and then there's two different things you can click.

Prince Harry, the Duke of Sussex, Megan, the Duchess of Sussex.

Oh, she's totally dropped the Markle.

Yeah.

But she has that Markle Sparkle.

Megan hold the Markle.

I think Markle is like a gorgeous last name.

Like visually, it really does look like Sparkle.

And then the person, no, alliteration, Megan Markle.

It's great.

No, it's very great.

And then they have their bio.

It's very great.

This is a long bio.

Oh, wow.

For Megan.

That's just for Megan.

Let's see his.

I feel like if it can't fit on one page, you've got to shrink it down.

That's like a resume.

His is shorter.

His is shorter.

It's funny.

The good thing is, like, this really means nothing.

It's just interesting.

It's a nice looking site.

Yeah, I know.

Who did it?

Article made by Article is the power.

That's what it's powered by, but I'm sure they they have is article their company.

No, I think article is like a Squarespace type.

It looks like because it's brand and digital for culture, commerce, and good.

That's classic them.

It's totally like sport salad.

It envisions the digital experience from top down.

Their services build better brands holistically across strategy, design, and development.

I just want to say, like, the website is beautiful.

And if I ever need a website made, like, I will be reaching out to Article.

Yeah, no.

And they already have Megan and Harry like in their promo portfolio.

I'm cracking up.

So those are the fast five.

You

really didn't need to know any of them, but I had a good time.

You know, it's not about the destination.

It's about the journey.

The ends justify the means.

I love that.

I love that.

Yeah, I had a good time, too.

I had a marvelous time doing the toasty thing.

So that's our show.

I had a marvelous time doing the toast with you.

Oh, I think.

No, I had a marvelous time ruining everything.

I don't know why it's.

I had a marvelous time doing the toast.

Yeah.

I'll accept that.

It's fine.

So that's our show, you guys.

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Objection?

Sustained.

Relevance.

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I feel comfortable using legal jargon in everyday life.

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