Drew Be Drewin', Jets Be Jetsin': Wednesday, September 13th, 2023

Good morning, millennials.

Welcome back to the toast and happy hump day.

It doesn't feel like a hump day because I'm so far away from the girl whom I wish to hump.

Her name is Jackie and she's on the other end.

Hey, Jax, how you dern?

I'm dern good.

At least we can be together virtually on this hump day because we weren't supposed to be.

Plans have changed around here.

It's true.

In case you don't, en caso de que.

That's like my favorite thing to say in Spanish.

En caso de que.

So much better than in case.

Yeah, it really.

It really does.

So, encaso de que, that you guys don't follow us on Instagram, you're probably expecting to see a gorgeous video and audio episode today with Hannah Burner.

I'm not feeling great.

I'm actually feeling a lot better than I was yesterday, but I just need to listen to my body, like all the influencers I follow tell me to do.

And that's exactly what I'm doing.

I'm resting, I'm drinking tea.

I'm definitely on the mend, but I just needed

a minute.

What are you eating?

What am I eating?

Did I say I was eating?

You said that you're resting, drinking tea, but you omitted what you are eating, which has been

incalculable in making you feel better.

Oh, oh.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We should talk about that.

So, yes, okay.

I have fallen ill.

And do we think the timing is suspicious on Monday after I ragged on soup?

I do.

I do think it's suspicious.

Yeah, soup watching Monday's episode, side eye.

Literally that evening, I'm like, it's kind of tired, you know?

Like, I'm like, maybe I'm just, you know, tired.

100%.

Yeah, no, soup was getting back at you.

And they were like, we're going to show you because now Claudia has fallen ill and she's taken to eating soup.

And she said, not only is it very tasty, but it's making her feel better.

So I didn't say it was tasty.

I didn't say it was tasty.

I think that you did say that.

When you and I were chatting on the phone, I was like, by the way, I'm not feeling well.

But like, I just had some soup and I immediately felt better.

Like, it was actually crazy.

So do you want to take back your slanderous words about soup and maybe they will lift the illness sooner so that you can come to Florida?

Listen, I didn't say anything.

I said...

Do you stand by what you said or are you going to apologize?

I do stand by what I said.

What I had said was that.

Do better.

You know, I don't.

Do better.

I said, it really does make you feel better.

Like, it's so annoying because I don't love the taste.

That's exactly how I feel.

I'm never going to apologize for saying exactly how I feel.

I feel like you were a bit harsher.

Like, soup is disgusting.

It is.

But okay, I think you learned your lesson.

When I was drinking my consume just broth from second avenue jelly yesterday i was like this is gross

okay

you're doubling down soup is gonna come for you soup is gonna come

down don't you want to get better

i'm speaking my truth i'm speaking my truth but you have to get better because you're supposed to come see me tomorrow and if you are sick you can't come well i got an iv last night i'm feeling much better what do you have by the way what like what do you have what ails you i don't know i just like, I have like exhaustion.

I have like a little tickle in my throat.

That, that actually has went away.

I've been drinking a lot of tea, a lot of fluids, a lot of liquid IV.

I got an IV yesterday.

So I had like a little bit of, you could tell I'm like a little nasally.

I don't know if you guys can hear like my sexy must sticky, sticky shows.

Like that kind of vibe.

It's not super nasally, though.

It's not like you're congested, correct?

No, yeah, like I'm not crazy sick.

I just like

feeling well.

Run down.

I'm run down.

I wasn't feeling well.

So I did something crazy.

I worked from home.

Are you okay with your text messages?

You want to mute your computer while we podcasting?

I just put myself on do not disturb because everyone just wants a piece of me.

And that's just going to happen every time we do an audio-only episode.

It's going to happen once and then I'm going to turn it off.

It's not a part of your routine to like mute your computer before we start.

It is for me.

No, I don't know because a part of me just feels like if I mute my computer, then like I'm going to be muted.

Even right now, I didn't turn the volume off on my computer.

I turned my whole apparatus on Do Not Disturb.

I'm always on Do Not Disturb when we podcast.

Do not disturb is like a fabulous feature.

It's a fabulous feature, but when you have children, you really need to be available to be disturbed.

So I'll be able to still see what's going on.

Anyways, that's why it

keeps happening to me.

So, like, Don't Mama Shame Me.

Thanks.

Literally, it wasn't.

I think you were kind of like unmama shaming me.

Being like, that's what you happen when you have children.

Like, that was the vibe.

So don't twist it.

Don't twist it.

Fair.

Yeah.

Okay.

Cool.

In terms of tomorrow, I am still planning on coming.

I'll see how I feel when I wake up.

Like, I do feel like if I had to get on a plane right now, I would be fine.

I just wouldn't want to.

Yeah.

Okay.

So take it easy.

That's why we're doing audio only.

It's so funny.

We were like, so excited to be back.

You know, my tournament leaves over.

And now it's as if I'm pregnant again and we are audio onlying.

I, I know, it's so stupid.

Like, I can't say this enough times.

Like, how

maybe, maybe 5% of our listeners watch on YouTube.

Like, as long as you and I get an audio episode up, we like, our jobs are done.

Like, it's really just as done as a regular video, but I feel so incomplete.

I hate podcasting from home.

I love being in the studio.

I feel like I do my best work.

Yeah, same.

Something like that.

When I'm like dressed up, I look like a slab today.

I haven't washed my hair.

Yeah, getting up, getting dressed.

By the time we finish an audio-only episode, like I'm just in a pool of my own sweat.

We are just just

podcasting is such a sweaty endeavor and i'm not a huge sweater so it's like it's not like i just sweat while i'm sitting but when i sit and podcast audio only not in my studio yes i'll tell you why i'll tell you why okay because when we podcast from home we're using like pretty good mics, but they're not our studio mics.

So we turn off our air conditioning.

Like we make it a very, you know, quiet environment.

So that is why when we're done podcasting from home, I always have like literally a line of sweat between my thigh and my vagina.

Okay, just want to say I don't turn off my AC.

I didn't when I was pregnant because like I couldn't, like I would have overheated.

And now I don't have noisy AC in my bedroom.

So that's not the reason.

I think the reason is when

we're in, like at least for me, my

contraption of computer, microphone, charger, table on my bed is like all very precarious.

And if I move, it could all crumble.

So I literally have to sit in the same position for an hour straight.

Like, and, and it's not a smart position.

It's like my legs are tucked up, like I'm sitting like W style.

And then, you know, I get sweaty behind my knees and in every crease that didn't move for one hour.

No, that's, that's true, but also another reason it could be

is like all these devices, like you have like this microphone, they emit heat.

Like computers emit heat.

They do.

Also, it just could be.

It just could be the very physical nature of what we do of the work.

And if we weren't such gesticulators and talking with our hands and so emotive maybe we wouldn't break a sweat no but maybe it's the gesticulation it's the gesticulation yeah i think so

wow we got to

kind of got to the bottom of that yeah so that's why we're podcasting from home um it's gonna be a great episode though it's still wednesday we've actually got great stories of vmas we're on last night i watched most of them and we have deer toasters really good ones and we have an update too can't wait i haven't done a dear toasters in a while I guess not since before maternity leave, so I'm happy and excited to help our girlies out.

I was excited to get Hannah Berner helping people.

I feel like she would have given funny advice, but I have rebooked her, everyone.

Don't worry.

I believe it's the first week of October.

I can't remember exactly, but she's coming back.

Don't worry.

Like,

we got it done.

Great.

And you just got a little extra Jackson Claude original recipe this week, and we'll still be doing the show together on Friday.

So it all works out.

Basically, what we're trying to say is that all's well, that ends well.

But I'm in a new hell every time.

See, I wasn't going to bring up that part because I'm not in a new hell.

I'm with my girly.

Like what's better than that?

It's so true.

Speaking of your girly, we need to address something.

Yeah, I literally, we both said it at the same exact time.

The highlights from yesterday is what we're going over.

And one of them was I sent Claudia a gift to her home because I saw these items online.

I felt that turdy needed them.

They were so turdy.

And you know me, I like to just send a little gift here and there when I see something that makes me think of someone.

When you see something, you say something.

When I see something, I buy something.

Yeah.

So I sent Turdy like a little care package of things from Bloomingdales because that's literally her second residence.

And one thing that they had was a pickleball paddle.

They did a collab with Recess.

So I just was like, oh, these items are so turdy.

I'm thinking of her.

Sent a little note in my order.

sent it off and I was so excited for you to receive it.

I opened my phone yesterday.

I go to your Instagram story and and she posts the pickleball paddle saying, thank you, Bloomingdales in recess.

Okay, let's start from the beginning.

I immediately was like, oh my God, no, I sent you that.

But then I actually thought it was such a turdy specific gift that maybe they gifted it to you too.

And I'm, you know, the schmuck who bought it for you.

Right.

So let me just tell you from my POV.

Okay.

Like the aftermath, of course, I'm humiliated that my first instinct would be like, oh my God, the brands of the world are trying to get to turdy.

Like, I'm so self-involved.

Like, that tracks.

I didn't even delete it because it's so accurate of how high I think of myself, honestly.

Second of all, in my defense,

a few things.

Like, a week ago, I had posted that I wanted to get my own pickleball paddle.

And, like, what brands did people recommend?

So I figured, like, this was a direct result of that Instagram story, first of all.

Second of all,

I'm going to blame Bloomingdale's here.

Their note system

is not great.

You know how, like, when you order online, you get a return label, it's like printed on a sticker?

So you just peel the sticker off and you place it when you want to return stuff.

The note was literally at the bottom of a sticker.

I was like, it looked just like gibberish, like a tracking number.

Like, I didn't even look at it.

I just threw it right away.

Yeah, that's not right.

Cause I did specify this is a gift.

I would like to write a message.

And that's how it came.

No, yeah.

And like it was gift wrapped now that I think about it.

But I figured, you know, the marketing department.

Yeah, they want to put their best foot forward.

Impressed dirty.

And then furthermore, there wasn't just a pickleball paddle in there.

There was a t-shirt that appeared to be like some sort of merch for the restaurant that is on the seventh floor of Bloomingdale's called 40 Carrots.

They have the best ice cream in the city.

And I eat there probably four or five times a week.

Right.

So I was like, oh, they obviously have come to know me as a regular.

I never get any special treatment there, but I'm like, you know what?

I kind of put this place on the map.

Like, I'm actually, I didn't put it on the map.

I'm keeping it on the map because it's always been on the the map.

And I'm just like, oh, it's so nice to finally be recognized.

Maybe I can like, you know, cut a line here and get a free ice cream.

I thought I was really like becoming VIP at Bloomingdale's 40 carats.

So I'm like, oh, my time has finally come.

I didn't even question it.

For my POV,

I saw the pickleball paddle.

I was like, Claudia has to have this.

And I was looking.

They're having like their 50th anniversary, like Bloomingdale's Bazaar, where they had all of these brands design items that have the Bloomingdales like logo or iconic Bloomingdales things.

It was like four pages of things and like you are obsessed with Bloomingdale.

So I went through every single page like looking for the right gift for you.

So I saw this 40 carrots t-shirt, which you eat at 40 carrots every single day.

I was like, she has to have that.

And it's like really cute embroidered with a frozen yogurt.

Ice cream cone and the pickleball paddle.

So for me, I guess that's how much it was like the perfect gift for you that like

so many different people could, it was going to find its way to you no matter the avenue.

Well, let me say, and I feel like this is most important, thank you.

Like you're in the throes of postpartumhood and you're thinking of me.

Like I honestly, I'm so blessed.

Like I really am.

You're such a great sister.

It's such a great gift.

I cannot wait to, I might bring my pickleball paddle down to Florida with me in case you want to apply.

Oh my God, yes.

Oh my God, but you're going to just be so much more stylish than me.

I just wanted to say thank you.

Like it's really, it's an amazing gift.

Now, why?

We need to talk about like my obsession with Bloomingdale.

It's like why?

I mean, my obsession with the restaurant is not even a question.

It is the premier restaurant.

I do have some notes for them.

And every time I go in there, I try and like find a manager because I really feel like they should start serving French fries.

I think it would really change like the landscape of, like, they're known for like sandwiches, wraps, and salads.

And what is better?

What's more girl dinner than like a salad with fries?

I really feel if they had fries.

The restaurant would like have a whole new era.

I understand, but I also understand why they don't have fries.

My issue with 40 carrots these days is the quality control.

Like so many times we'll get lunch and it's like, you can tell this was not made with love, but this was actually made with hate.

It's really disgusting.

Like I'll get a veggie burger on top of a salad, like with my salad and the veggie burger's like still frozen a little bit.

So the lettuce is, the lettuce is browning.

Okay.

Like there are date, like literally there's some type sound appealing.

There's two types of 40 carrots days, like the ones where it is the best restaurant ever.

Like everything is fresh and healthy and good.

And the ones where it was just made with hate.

Hate-filled food.

But I feel like if people aren't from New York or they haven't heard of 40 carrots, it's important to know, like, when you and I were in high school, like, there was not a cooler, better restaurant.

Like, it was in its heyday

the place to be and it was always delicious.

And now it's a little bit of a story.

But by the way, it's really just like a lunch spot.

It's not a restaurant like don't be making reservations for dinner.

It's like a cafeteria.

Yeah.

But it just has like a good menu and like good energy.

I can't explain it, but it's like a very jewish restaurant like they serve like tuna salad chicken salad egg salad like it's very jewish and

in its heyday like it was supreme and it's definitely not as popular as it once was and like i feel very strongly like that it needs to come back full force i do think the french fries would change the game for them and you know what like okay i'll offer it my services like they need to like collab with an influencer like they need to do something to get themselves back on the map like i was thinking like last time i was there i was like we need to have like the turdy meal on the menu where you get like a large Thai Coke, my favorite wrap, grilled chicken Caesar wrap, and a Froyo on the side and it's like sold as a meal, kind of like Travis Scott did at like Bloomingdale's.

I mean

McDonald's.

Like I really, I feel like an investor in 40 carrots.

Maybe they'll let you invest, but

I don't know.

The turdy meal.

It would be better.

I just don't understand why I can't order a salad, a wrap, and a...

Froyo.

No, you can, you can, but it wouldn't be the turdy meal.

That's true.

But the turdy, like, I feel like when you're going to do a custom meal, it has to be like a little more custom.

No, it has to be like a little better, but like, I eat crap.

So that's what you're going to get.

Yeah.

No, there's a lot that they could do and they don't do.

And I just want to know what the difference is between the days where the food is made with love and made with hate.

Like, is it a different chef?

Like, is it, right?

Is it just like, you know, the last day of the groceries and they're getting their

delivered tomorrow?

It's so true.

Like, when Jackie was on bed rest, but she was in New York, like pretty much three or four times a week, I would come over and bring lunch because I was having lunch, but like, either by myself or meeting a friend.

Always had lunch at 40 carrots, and then I'd be like, Jackie, I'm gonna bring you something because I was coming over to her house anyway.

And I would literally walk in and she would be like, Was it a day that it was made with love or was it a day that it was made with hate?

And, like, based on what you ate, I knew how mine was going to taste, and that was always correct.

So, they just like need, like, they need to get it together.

I'm hoping that this podcast can be some sort of impetus for them to just revamp,

refresh, refresh, and I know, I know that it's called 40 carrots, and I know that like carrots are a really important part of their brand for some reason.

So they have to serve every meal with that soggy carrot salad.

But like, I'm just here to tell you as a brand like enthusiast, you don't.

Like, you don't have to put that slop on the plate.

You don't.

Damn.

But you do need to put the pretzel rod.

Oh, that's the other thing.

One thing they're known for.

Like, if you order a salad, they always serve it.

Makes the salad really tolerable.

They serve it with like a really warm pretzel roll.

And sometimes they're not warm these days, which is just unacceptable.

And now it's just very much like a lottery.

You get a salad there might be a pretzel roll there might not be like it needs to be more uniform and the pretzel rolls could use a few more flakes of salt salt yes and and maybe like they could offer a dipping sauce on the side like a little mustard oh

i really feel and like maybe it would behoove them to have like an appetizer with like warm pretzel rolls with like cheese like mamma's beer cheese now we're getting like fat Okay, it is supposed to be like a healthy restaurant.

It's a healthy restaurant.

So no, Mama's beer cheese will not be on the

okay, whatever.

I'm just saying, like, a little ingenuity wouldn't hurt.

And I hope that this podcast can be a catalyst for somebody high up at 40 carrots.

A catalyst for change.

We're nothing if not a catalyst for change.

And you know what we'd be looking for?

A carrot list for change.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

I actually feel really good that we got that off our chests.

I agree.

I feel like we need to get into the stories.

Yeah.

Because that's what we're here to do.

You're 100% right.

It It is like what we're here to do.

Turdy's under the weather, so we can't be like taking off her time.

We need her to rest and recover.

Like, as always, the toast does have restorative properties.

Like, I am just feeling,

I'm feeling good.

Well, that's the thing about feeling not sick, but when you're feeling a little run or under the weather, sometimes

festering in it is like the worst thing you can do.

And you've got to kind of like get up and urge your body into moving forward.

Like yesterday, I definitely needed to be in bed all day.

Like Like that was rest is cute.

You're right.

Maybe like a little walk today.

Yeah, just like don't overwork yourself, but sometimes you need to like coerce your body into feeling better, but only like not if you're well and truly sick.

Like do you have a fever or anything?

No.

Hmm.

It's giving me a bad thing.

I'm like, I'm skipping money.

I'm like downplaying.

No, I'm like downplaying.

The way I'm explaining it, they're going to be like, girl, like, why didn't Hannah Burner come on the podcast?

Like, you're fine.

And, like, I'm not.

No, she's not.

Like, you guys, I can attest because I know that she she would never ask me to do a third episode in a week.

Like, if she would never need my assistance.

Thank you, Jackie.

I stand with turdy.

And I would never, ever electively eat soup.

So true.

And you guys, I saw her soup.

She didn't even eat the noodles.

I know.

Was that crazy?

Like, the court?

But was it the Ozempic?

Oh, you know what?

What day is it today?

Wednesday.

So it's due day.

It's do or die day.

And I was thinking, I'm like, will take my Ozempic make me feel worse or better?

I wasn't chancing it, though.

I took it.

Oh my God, you're funny.

But also, you haven't had those like physical side effects of Ozempic like I've done.

No, and I don't feel nauseous.

I haven't like thrown up or anything.

Yeah.

Is it just so liberating that we can just talk about Ozempic

in everyday life?

Yeah, I think I thought it would feel like a little bit more liberating.

I just now I'm very conscious of like not being annoying.

Yeah.

Well, that's like every time I do it.

Every day we have to be conscious of that.

I know.

But every time I do talk about it, like I am, you know,

being painted as, you know, a murderer of diabetics, which is just, of course, inaccurate.

And are you?

I haven't seen Trudy.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

What are you doing?

Especially like on the anytime I post like a Reels or a TikTok, they're like, you're so disgusting.

Hmm.

But like, do your research.

Or as I would say, educate yourself.

Once again, I stand with turdy.

As one should.

Anyone who doesn't stand with turdy is more often than not on the wrong side of history.

It's so true.

History stands.

No, I can't speak for Trudy.

I can't speak for Trudy.

History stands with dirty.

No, the more things change, the more Turdy stays the same.

That's true.

Lookie, you're still in your apartment.

Shut up.

Oh, you know what?

I haven't updated everyone.

What's going on?

Because I said I would devote my maternity leave to finding a new apartment, and I did.

You did.

Oh my God.

She saw so many apartments.

My husband kept meeting up with her to like see.

Zach was so helpful, honestly.

I'm grateful.

And he's very good at like design, like furniture placement you know yeah um i saw a bunch there were a few contenders i actually ended up putting an offer in on three of them two of the offers were brutally rebuffed one of them was accepted and i was like in the process of like applying formally when I realized like I didn't even like the apartment.

And so I'm back to square one.

I did end up extending my current lease a little bit so I could have a little bit more time.

So I now have like another month, which was very gracious of my landlord to do for me.

I'm still looking.

I'm still looking.

And I like, I'm so dead set on seeing the snow by Christmas.

And what's upsetting is the apartment that I did get accepted for had great see the snow by Christmas energy.

Like the windows and the views were beautiful, wide open spaces,

but it wasn't me, you know?

I do know.

So is there a chance that you don't move at all?

I mean, there's always a chance of anything, you know?

But

no, like I'm committed.

I really am.

And I do want to move.

It's like really important to me.

I check every day.

Okay.

But you know, the median, the average rate in New York City for rent is $5,500.

That's crazy.

That's up like $2,500 from like a couple of years ago.

Like, it's crazy.

The market is insane.

Like, you would die if you saw some of the apartments that I've seen.

I'm like, I literally want to look the broker in the face, be like, are you kidding?

But then literally, I get an email the next day.

It's gone.

Like, people are actually paying these prices.

It's so crazy.

No, I don't know what to do, Jax.

Like,

I don't know what to do.

Florida's calling.

Oh, girl, get out of here.

Just think about it.

I'll set up some tours while you're here.

No, I mean, I'll move in with you.

I'm not buying my own house.

That's like so unnecessary.

You have a house.

Olivia has a house.

I have to get my own house to live in.

Like, my God, just let me live with you.

You could live with me.

Honestly.

Why not?

No, and your house is kind of set up with like two really big bedrooms.

Yeah, really two masters.

No, the thing is, like, I would do it in an actual second.

We could never get the boys to agree.

They'd be like, this is so stupid because they don't understand sisterhood.

And you know what they would say?

They would say, screw sisterhood.

That is, that is the only hurdle because you would do it.

No, of course.

And then I wouldn't even need to have my own kids because I'd have yours.

Like, it's everything.

It honestly would solve all your problems.

I'm obsessed.

And like, all of our like expenses would be split.

Joint.

We go to work every day upstairs.

Yeah.

Jackie, we should have really like put together a PowerPoint presentation.

And then by the way, like

think of our line of work.

Like we would be like those sisters who live together.

Like even people who don't know us, they'd be like, yeah, they're sisters and they live together and they have a podcast.

Like it's really good.

You should listen.

Like it's crazy that they live together.

And they're married and they live together.

Right, right, right.

And they share kids.

Like, that would be our thing.

Yeah, I think it would be really good for business.

Also, not to get crazy, but like if we are doubling up and I'm happy to have you move in with me and I would you know foot the bill of course for no reason just because you don't want to pay but we could like look into getting a bigger house why we we don't have to go elsewhere let's build an extension oh yeah we could build an extension but no like now we're like you know we could work

two budgets put together

no see what's out there We should definitely, this is so compelling.

Like, we should just definitely think about making like some sort of PowerPoint presentation.

And I i don't like why why isn't it okay for like married adults to live with like their close friends or family like why i don't know

i don't know and i it shouldn't have to be like that much to convince ben like he could golf every day

yeah i honestly i think i'd have a harder time at convincing him to plunge into florida over living with my sister.

Like he's known me so long at this point.

Like it's not the craziest thing I've ever suggested.

Right, but the plunging into Florida part, it's crazy that that's so hard for him to ever accept because golf.

Yeah.

I mean, but you know, Ben's also very family-oriented.

His family lives here.

Like, I understand, but I do think maybe there's something there.

And I'd like, I'd say we'd come back, you know, to New York once a month.

But where would you stay?

Would you keep your apartment?

No.

That defies the purpose.

If you're letting me live for free,

yeah, I'd keep my apartment.

But that, like, really defies the purpose because then why don't you just come on down right now?

And then we never have to tell our husbands.

It's just a really long stay of turdies.

Right, right, right.

All right, you know what?

We'll flush out this idea.

We'll keep working through it.

Yeah, but I love, I love where your head's at.

Me too.

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Our first story is a little VMAs recap.

The VMAs, MTV's VMAs were on last night, and there were some big headlines.

There were some big stars in the mix.

Yes, there were.

Yeah.

So first, we had Justin Timberlake and Megan the Stallion looking like they were fighting backstage, but a source says there was zero fight.

So this video like went viral very quickly where it looks like Megan the Stallion and Justin Timberlake.

It really did look like that that they were fighting.

Yeah, like they were having words and Joey Fatone like is kind of, you know, needing to be like,

Justin ran away, which is so Justin.

Yeah.

So in the crowded area backstage, Megan is seen getting glam while members of In Sync pass.

Justin smiling leans in to say something to her, and Megan responds, pointing her finger emphatically.

So it looked like it could be an argument, but the source said there was zero fight.

He had said, it's so nice to meet you, and she said, no, no, this don't count.

This don't count.

We got to meet proper.

It was very cute, the source says.

So I guess she was just being emphatic about the fact that like we need to meet.

She's apparently a really big fan of Justin.

And she posted a video with him after, I think maybe at like an after party, like laughing about it.

So I believe that there is no beef, but when I was watching, I just like hate Justin Timberlake.

Yeah, so I just assume everyone else does

yeah no and i assume the worst in him and honestly i feel like last night was actually like a really interesting indication of where justin timberlake is in his life because i feel like at his peak he got the video vanguard award like he

there was a time where people were like he's the next michael jackson like he was so and he In sync wasn't even the shit on his shoe to him.

Like he was so

thought he was so much better than them.

And I feel like he's definitely had like a fall from grace.

Not only did he just like have a kind of a flop era with his music, but also, you know, those pictures of him cheating on his wife.

Like, he's just, and then the Britney stuff and every documentary paints him as a monster.

So he's definitely in his humble era.

And him getting back together with In Sync was a clear indicator of that.

Not only does he not think he's too good, he could probably use that sort of, you know, undying love from America.

And I thought it was interesting.

Yeah, so he reunited with Insync to present Taylor with her award, and she was freaking out.

I guess she's a big InSync fan.

She should hang out with Olivia.

I literally can't with you.

And if you don't know what Jackie's talking about, feel free to read my book.

It's literally so good.

And you will hear about how diabolically insane Jackie and Olivia were growing up about InSync and Backstreet Boys to the point where, like, it tore our family apart.

And Jackie clearly still holds some resentment to Olivia for being like queen of InSync because Jackie was queen of Backstreet Boys.

Yeah, no, just like if you're gonna be into in sync, like you should talk to Olivia because she's into in sync.

She is.

Like it's always so crazy when Taylor like geeks out over people who are just like

that was kind of a major

theme.

That was a major theme of the night because the VMAs does this thing where there's like an audience camera the whole time you can watch feeds on mtv.com of like what Selena Gomez is doing while Olivia Rodrigo is performing.

And it's actually very interesting.

So we got a lot of content.

We saw, you you know, her, Taylor Swift, like singing her heart out to Demi Lovato, which I find so interesting.

Like Taylor and I, like, we're similar ages.

Like, we all grew up in like the Demi Lovato.

Like, we all know, if I ever did that, I think I'd have a heart attack.

Like, it's just so crazy to me because, like, comparatively, question mark.

But then also, there were so many conflicting dynamics at the

VMAs that I was obsessed with.

Like, of course, Olivia Rodrigo and Taylor Swift.

Like, Olivia Rodrigo can do as many interviews as she wants saying there's no beef.

Like, you will never convince me that there's not.

There is.

No, there is beef because they were so obsessed with each other on top of each other.

And now it's radio silence.

Not only radio silence, like Sabrina Carpenter is like a Taylor Swift buddy buddy.

She was sitting next to her all night.

So then this Sabrina Carpenter, Olivia Rodrigo dynamic, I found very interesting.

Then Selena was there, which we love.

We feel like we never see Selena at award shows like this.

But now she has her single, I am single.

Right.

Single soon.

So she's got to do the circuit.

But like her and Demi Lovato, Demetria, like like there's beef there.

I just felt like there were so many.

Like I wasn't expecting so many actual like A-listers to show up.

Yeah.

And I always, I always get surprised that

Taylor like pretty much always goes to the VMAs.

And I feel like she really

like wouldn't have to.

But then I was thinking this morning, like, I feel like she, and she appeared to have such a great time last night.

The fan cameras were like staring at her the whole time.

She was getting drunk.

She was drinking red wine.

She was drinking vodka soda.

She was dancing.

Like she was really having a good time.

And I feel like she's doing like everything to replace her former memories of the vmas like with kanye and that's why she goes every year and when you think of it through that lens like i kind of understand um

but yes it is shocking for her to like geek out over people who are like meh

Yeah, I feel like she goes to like certain award shows that might seem like, oh, not somewhere she would go, but because she might have like a good relationship with MTV, just like with iHeartRadio, and she knows it's going to be like a good environment for her and she knows what to expect.

Yeah, and she's like protected.

And it's also just about like what she has going on at the time.

Like, sometimes when she's in, you know, quiet mode, you won't see her anywhere.

But, like,

you still got to do.

Yeah, you have to do the circuit, you know?

The work.

The industry.

She has to put in the work.

It's the industry.

It's the industry.

What other headlines came out about?

So she swept the VMAs, making history with the most video of the year wins.

Cool.

Anything else that you wanted to mention?

Yeah.

I feel like when I watched the DMAs, I really realized like how

little music I actually listened to.

You know, like obviously I knew like all the pop singers, but there's so many other genres.

I'm like, I just feel, it kind of makes me feel old.

Were there a lot that you didn't know?

Like so many K-pop bands.

I didn't even heard of,

there was like a category of

K-pop.

I had not heard, except for Blackpink.

I had not heard of one of the other bands.

Like, and the one who won, I hadn't even heard of.

Oh, wow.

Yeah, it's just like, it's a young girl's game.

It is a young girl's game.

It's tough.

Yeah, I didn't.

Kelsey Ballarini.

Kelsey Ballarini was there making

headlines.

She came with Chase.

It was her birthday.

They looked really cute, matching in red.

And she gave a gorgeous performance of Penthouse.

And they were making out on the carpet.

Yeah, no, like, they're obsessed with each other.

Like, it's nice.

But there was also rumors that they had broken up.

Oh, I didn't hear that.

I did.

Don't ask me where.

Oh, my God.

Jackie, are you like at the center of the rumor mail?

Yeah, I am.

I'm really deep into it.

I hadn't heard that they had broken up, but they haven't.

So that's good.

No, they haven't.

Going strong.

Happy birthday, Kelsey.

It was actually like a really fabulous award show.

Like,

and so many, like actually,

like actual stars showed up, which I just found shocking.

I feel like...

Selena, like, never goes to stuff like that.

So it was fabulous to see her.

She also got memed like a thousand times.

She like was just like kind of had like a mug on the whole time.

And then she posted on her Instagram story, like,

I'm tired of being a meme.

So, like, I kept my face like that the whole time.

So, you guys, like, couldn't make, and of course, they, they still did.

That's unfortunate.

You just want to be able to live.

So, I like the idea of like these fan cameras, but it's really like being in a fishbowl.

And then you think, like, they're acting the whole time because they know they're being watched and no one wants to have like the wrong reaction.

Or they do want to go viral, so they have a reaction.

It's just so funny, like, when Taylor shows up somewhere, like, it becomes Taylor so spa mitzvah, you know?

Yeah,

Must be such a nice, like, benefit of her life.

Yeah, I watched You're So Not Invited to My Bat Mitzvah.

Oh, what did you think?

I thought it was really cute.

Right?

Yeah, and it's really cute that she's his daughter.

So is the other daughter.

Yeah, no, I know, but it's the movie's about Stacy.

And the friend's mom.

I know, is his wife.

It's his wife.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I just wanted to make sure you knew.

Yeah, it was really, it was really cute.

It was funny.

It was funny.

And I was like, parts of it were so accurate.

Yeah.

Me and Ben were like really dying over Sarah Sherman, like the conservative female rabbi.

Obsessed.

No, like that person actually exists.

Like I can't explain it.

It was the way she dressed.

Like it was perfection.

Yeah.

I actually googled her because she looked so familiar, but I didn't know who she was.

And I thought she was so good.

And I was like, who is this person?

And she's like, she's in SNL.

She's a new girl.

She's making splashes.

She was really good.

Yeah, it was cute.

I thoroughly enjoyed it.

Me too.

Okay, next story.

Even though what I wanted to say was the VMAs were like canceled a few months ago because of the show.

No.

No, the other ones were.

That was movie and TV awards, which are SAG.

Right, because then I was like, how are we having an award show?

Music, totally different.

Who hosted last night?

That's a good question.

Like, was there a host?

Was it Nikki Minaj?

No.

I don't know.

The world may never be a good idea.

But actually, they don't have any writers.

If there's no hosts and there's no writers, then they're not violating the strike.

Right.

So actually, I don't think there was a host.

Okay.

So now I could segue into one of two stories and both segues would be really good.

Oh, wait.

Also, they're about the strike, correct?

Strike adjacent.

Okay, I saw some people saying like enough with the strike news.

And I just want to know, does everyone feel that way?

Because I'm down to stop talking about it.

I don't particularly care.

Well,

I could go like enough with the strike news when it's like small updates about what Fran said versus Bob.

But you know what?

Now you've chosen a nice segue for me because Drew Barrymore is facing some backlash for resuming her show amid the strike.

She has been dropped as the National Book Awards host after her talk show Resumed the Strike.

So Drew Barrymore has been dropped as the host of the upcoming National Book Awards ceremony a day after her talk show taped its first episode since the Hollywood strike began.

Quote, the National Book Awards is an evening dedicated to celebrating the power of literature and the the incomparable contributions of writers to our culture, the National Book Foundation said in a statement.

In light of the announcement that Drew Barrymore will resume production, the National Book Foundation has rescinded Ms.

Barrymore's invitation to host the 74th National Book Awards ceremony.

Oh my God, reading that statement, I just have so many thoughts.

Like, no, it's like really karate.

First thought, I'm available to host the National Book Awards.

And I think that I would be an amazing host for the National Book Awards.

I agree.

However, the following things I might say might get my invitation rescinded from hosting the National Book Awards.

Loser behavior.

Nobody asked the book awards to get it.

Major loser behavior.

Who even knew she was hosting them?

She keeps getting all these hosting kids taken away from her.

No wonder she has to go back to her show.

And the most controversial thing that I'll say that really I will not be hosting the National Book Awards is that I don't necessarily disagree with Drew Barringmore's decision to go back to her show and to resume production.

Well, the interesting thing is, is that she is compliant.

This is not considered crossing the picket line because she will not have writers writing on her show.

She will not have celebrities coming on to promote projects.

Like she's following the rules.

So for her to be punished when you could disagree with her, but in reality, she is not crossing the picket line.

For the books to get involved, I don't know how the books apply here, first of all.

Like objection, relevance.

No, because it's like writers.

We support writers.

Oh, like book writers, too.

Okay, yeah, writing the connection.

Okay, I see the connection.

I take that back.

But she's really not breaking any rules.

I think you could argue the merits, you know, ethically if you're in SAG.

You could go on and on about what you would do.

But at the end of the day, she made a decision.

I would love to know her true reasoning for making the decision because she doesn't seem like the type of person to intentionally do something controversial.

Like, no, she's not a brave person like that, you know?

No.

So she's an industry girly.

She plays by the rules and she's very well liked and she doesn't really, you know, she doesn't need to

make trouble, nor does she really need to.

She's got like her brand is being lovable.

So right.

I think she has out of character.

Or it's in character and she has, you know, good, decent reasons for resuming her show.

Like there are a lot of other, there are a lot of people who work on her show who won't be working.

Like there, there's just so much that goes into it.

And that I don't know.

And see, that's my question.

That's my question.

So it's possible, like, she wants, you know, pas camera operators hair and makeup like she wants people to get back to work and so they can feed their families but if they're in sag

how are they

working like i don't get it talk shows quote unquote talk shows actually i think i know the answer to my own question talk shows are their own category it's like kind of similar to unscripted a little bit where they are technically not picketing, but I think a lot of shows are standing in solidarity, but they aren't required to pick it.

So if you wanted to bring your show back and bring back everyone except the writers, you could start getting all of your employees paid.

And I have to imagine that's why she's doing it.

Or, you know, the network said, if you don't do your show, you're not, you're going to lose your show.

And it's not just about her, but it is about all those people who are employed.

Like, I think she has probably good reasons.

I choose to give people the benefit of the doubt and not just think that she's wanting to be selfish and bring her show back.

Also, this article notes that she employs at least three writers who are members of the Writers Guild, and those writers are picketing outside CBS.

So it's not her entire staff.

And I just think the National Book Awards,

it's not a decision I would say.

I think they're wrong for this.

Interesting.

I

agree.

I think.

Yeah.

Like,

I feel like Drew Barrymore did not do a good job of explaining.

She released a statement.

Yeah.

And I felt like her statement was a whole bunch of bullshit.

Like, we released our show in sensitive times.

We're global atrophy.

Like, I don't fucking know.

Like, just tell us.

Like, what's the reason?

Like, you want people to get paid?

I actually respect that immensely.

And I think we're at a point in the strike now where, like, it's gone on for so long.

And it's really, really affecting people's abilities to like keep, you know.

Food on the table for their families.

And SAG is doing their best.

And I know a lot of people have donated a lot of money, but there's like 100,000 people in SAG.

And most of them are not rich.

So now it's at the point where, like, they really do need to strike a deal because there's power, of course, in striking.

But at some point, like, people are going to get desperate and start taking non-they have to work.

Right, right.

That's what I was thinking when we were talking on Monday when you were saying it's going to go on till January.

How can it go on till January for everyone?

For everyone, right?

Right.

I don't know.

So I feel like we might start to see more and more people who are kind of on the fringe of the strike because also that's the other thing.

It's like, that's like a challenge, but the lines of the strike are a little blurry in terms of like, there's the clear thing, like clear intentions of the strike, but then there's other people who are like not doing stuff in support of the strike, but not necessarily because it would be crossing the picket line.

So I feel like some of those people on the on the fringe or some of those projects might start to resume because they will have to.

No, and I think like Drew Barrymore is just kind of like a trailblazer in that.

Actually, it would be Jessica Chastain because she like a few days before was like starting drama with the Venice Film Festival.

But it is interesting to see like huge players like Jessica Chastain and Drew Barrymore

doing what they think is best.

Yeah.

And it's important to note: neither one of them have technically crossed the picket line.

People are just mad at them.

Yeah.

People don't agree with what they're doing, even though what they're doing is completely in compliance.

It's not, it's not scab.

What's the word?

It's not scab.

It's not scab.

It's just like not necessarily in the most solidarity with the strike.

Right.

But that's more of like everybody has to have.

No, but everyone has to have their reasons, Right.

Just like reasons.

We got their reasons.

Just like Drew.

Just like Drew.

Also, these are two people who very much play the Hollywood game.

They're not mad for a controversial.

No.

So they've got their reasons.

And I'm sure they make a lot of sense.

And they're just doing a poor job of explaining themselves.

Drew Barrymore definitely did a poor job.

But that's so Drew.

She doesn't talk in specifics.

No, she's so.

We launch our show in sensitive times.

We've got a lot of love.

Right.

We have stories to tell.

That's so Drew.

So Drew.

And one thing about Drew, Drew is going to Drew.

Drew be Drew Bin.

Drew be Drew Bin.

I had one more thing to say about, oh, not about the strike, but it just took my mind there.

Did you guys talk about Aaron Rodgers yesterday?

We did.

I'm in shock.

Like, I'm, that just sucks.

No, no, it's so Jets.

The one thing about the Jets, the Jets gonna be Jetson.

Like, it's the most Jets thing ever.

Like, the loseriest team in the NFL finally gets a fighting fucking chance in hell.

Day one, minute one, over.

Obsessed.

No.

It's so New York.

It's so New York.

It's so New York.

And it's, it's really funny, except for the fact that, like, Aaron is extremely injured and, you know, won't be able to play.

But he will be getting his $45 million.

Don't worry.

I know, but you know, Aaron.

No, he's not like a corner cutter.

No, and he's not a money grabber.

Like, I think he's in it for the love of the sport.

Perhaps, yeah.

Right.

You really don't know him that well.

No, but the vibe I get from him.

It's fair.

Because he was with Shaylene.

Right.

And if you're with Shaylene, you can't be in it for the money.

It's so true.

But I'm like, Rafu is Schleima, Aaron.

I just like that.

No, but you don't understand.

Like, honestly, there's nothing to say except it sucks.

No, it's literally the most depressing thing ever, especially like the first game.

It was on 9-11.

He ran out.

Oh my god, Zach showed me the video.

American flag.

It was like New York, 9-11 flag, America.

Woo-hoo-hoo!

Like it was, honestly, I watched it.

I got a little teary.

I'm like, oh man, New York is back.

Like five minutes later, dead on the field.

Like dead.

Literally, it's so,

it's so Jets.

Like, you couldn't have written a more New York Jets tale if you tried.

Yeah.

I just, I felt bad about that.

It's definitely something to feel bad about.

Do you think Aaron like hates the guy who tackled him?

It's an amazing question, actually.

Like, no, because I think it was like a totally legal tackle.

But the field was slippery because it was raining.

Was it?

It was raining.

And like, Aaron's just kind of, he's like a little older, you know, maybe he can't withstand those types of tackles.

I don't know.

Or, you know, the tackle, just he came for his Achilles.

His Achilles, he.

Do you think Aaron Rodgers is like in physical therapy right now listening to State of Grace?

Because you know he loves Taylor Swift.

Yes, I do.

I can actually see him like, I can, this is how I see it going down.

Kelly Teller, wife of Miles, good friend of Aaron, texts him and being like, I can't even imagine how difficult this time is for you.

I'm thinking of you.

I think this song would make you feel better.

And she just sends him a Spotify link to State of Grace.

And he's listening to it during physical therapy, getting his stretches.

And he's, wow, this is a really great empowering song.

And then the bridge comes, you my Achilles heal

and he knew all along why kelly sent him that song and it brings a tear to his eye and he finds the courage the courage to heal in record time

getting back on the field next week not next week but maybe that

maybe sometime this season i feel like the achilles is like a career-ending injury It's not a good one.

And I can't imagine that.

And that's why Taylor said, you're my Achilles heel.

Yeah, no, because it kind of like takes down the whole body but it also supports the whole body it's that's the point of being an achilles heel goes both ways um

but i think it would also be really hard to like be it at the doctor's office or like in physical therapy and having to describe how about your heel without and having to say the words my achilles heel without singing it If you know that song, you cannot say the word Achilles heel without singing it.

You'd be like, Doc, I'm feeling a lot better, but my Achilles heel

still really hurts.

So true.

So he's struggling with that too.

Breaking out into song.

No.

And by the way, that is something I've historically struggled with.

And if Aaron needs a shoulder to cry on,

a mic to sing into, I'm always here for him.

Because us New York girlies got to stick together.

Totally.

Oh.

Refuashleima, Aaron.

Refuashleima.

Refuashleima.

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making moves.

Oh my God, we really do.

Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift have been rumored to be dating yesterday.

And, you know, in the same day that the rumors giveth, the rumors taken away because a source says that Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey are not officially dating.

E.T.

has reached out to both Taylor and Travis's reps to comment.

They have not yet commented, but there are rumors circulating that they are spending time together.

So we need to...

assess the rumors.

I want to just put out there, like, I don't think these rumors are true.

Agreed.

For a multitude of reasons.

Like, he came out a little too thirsty, a little too publicly.

Like, that's not Taylor's way of dating.

Like, she's just not like that.

So I don't think these are true for that reason.

Also, in his literal most recent podcast episode, he's wearing a John Mayer tour t-shirt.

If he had been quietly seeing Taylor Swift, that's the last thing someone would do.

Unless, like, maybe he didn't know.

I don't know, but no.

I think that they're not dating just like for different reasons, but I still also think they're not dating.

Like, first of all, I just don't think that Travis Kelsey has the sensitivity to like put together the John Mayer

t-shirt thing.

Like, I think they could have been dating and he could be wearing that t-shirt and just not realized he seems like that sort of guy.

The reason why I don't think they're dating is because I don't think that they would be compatible or like each other or they are each other's type

on its face.

Right.

Like the main reason I actually didn't believe the rumor is because it's quite possibly too good to be true.

Like Taylor Swift is dating someone who's actually handsome.

No.

Like no.

No.

Somebody who's who's like big and buff and American.

No.

We know who she likes.

Like, she likes Maddie Healy.

She likes like skinny Joe Alwyn, like Brit.

That's not her type.

It's quite literally too good to be true.

Trust and believe, I would love absolutely nothing more.

I didn't even get excited about this for one second.

Like, it's so fraudulent.

No, it's so fraudulent.

It's so crazy how she could really date anyone that she wanted.

Like,

she could literally date, like, if she wanted to, like, like Prince William, like, hypothetically.

If you were single, you mean?

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, she couldn't.

There's no man too famous or too handsome for her.

She is the most famous woman in the world, and she is breathtakingly beautiful.

Yeah, and it's like she could get a date with anyone.

What happens after that date?

And if they want to go on a second one with her, that's you know, she has to figure that out.

But like, she could call up anyone in the world and get a date.

And I just don't think that it would be Travis Kelsey, which is, I can't relate to that.

No, me, can't relate.

Um, but it's not gonna be him.

Honestly, I ship, but you know what else I really ship?

Taylor and Jason Kelsey.

Why do you keep putting her with married men, Turdy?

Like, I do not support women.

This is a fun hypothetical game.

It's a fun hypothetical game.

I'm having fun.

You're having fun breaking up families.

I'm having fun being a homewrecker.

That's cool.

Who do I see Taylor with?

That's the hard part about this game is that it's actually very difficult to visualize her with someone.

The hard part about this game, let me tell you the truth, is

having the brain span to think of everyone that you're trying to think of.

You know, I like forget everyone who's like single and eligible.

Like, my brain goes blank when I try and think about eligible men of Hollywood.

I do have my list, though.

She's never got Joe Maginello.

No, he's too big.

Yeah, she's never gone for an athletic type.

She goes for actors and singers who tend to be thinner, honestly.

Okay, Claudia.

Josh Groban.

I mean,

like,

let me just say, let me just say,

that couldn't happen because things that good and that perfect don't happen to people like us.

Like, it's true.

It is perfect.

Therefore, it could never be.

Yeah.

Also, I'm on my list.

I need to take Chris Evans off.

You do.

There's a few people who are like

in relationships right now, but they're not leaving.

Like Tom Brady.

Did you put Joe and Sophie on the list?

Oh my God, no, I didn't.

That's a and I just want to go on the record and say like I don't ship Taylor Swift and Joe Jonas.

Like everyone's like, they're both single.

I don't care.

Yeah, I agree.

But I'm adding him.

What about Jeremy Allen White and Taylor Swift?

There were rumors that he might be seeing Selena, which, you know, the girlies don't girly like that.

Selena, you mean?

Yeah.

Okay.

Okay.

And also, Jeremy Allen White is seeing someone.

Cool.

Like, he's been spotted out with the same girl, like, making out on Runyon Canyon a few times.

Oh, that's real.

I mean, he's not married, so you don't have to take him off the list.

But then you're not going to consider him.

Right, right.

Because he's not married.

Right, right, right, right.

No, I don't know who the right man for Taylor is.

What about Aaron Rodgers?

Even though, again, he's an athlete, but he likes her music.

Wait, that's an amazing call.

And I don't think that Taylor and Shaylene are so dissimilar.

But see, here's the thing: the last time Taylor dated someone was Maddie Healy.

And I do feel like a big part of their breakup were people being like triggered because he's like kind of, you know, a free talker.

Like, he just says what's on his mind.

And Aaron Rodgers is kind of like that too.

He's very like, America.

I think he's like, you know, has some strong opinions on some hot topics.

And I feel like Taylor is not in the business of doing that again, like getting dragged into like, you know, hot button issues because the person she's dating like has, you know, some, some hot takes on

topics.

She's a free thinker.

And a free thinker.

Some hot topics.

Yeah.

Okay, fine.

Except

I

will like refuse to believe that that's why, but they broke up because that would just be like incredibly fucking losery that like she let her personal life, like she's really into this guy and she's going to actually like let

public perception.

affect her life.

I don't think that's the case.

Me neither, but I can't imagine that was very fun.

No.

Or maybe, I don't know, maybe she likes a bit of danger.

Living on the edge.

Yeah.

Edge adjacent.

I just want to say I really like her and Aaron Rodgers.

Me too.

But like, she travels so much.

It's hard to date an athlete.

They travel a lot.

Not anymore.

True, he just got the whole year off.

He'll be a good one.

Thanks to his Achilles

heel.

And that's the song he would walk down the aisle to at the wedding because it was his Achilles heel that brought him the love of his life.

And do you think that she should sing him down the aisle?

I know you're against that in general, but if it was Taylor,

I'm still against it.

Who could sing her song?

Me.

Turdy.

Me.

Turdy students.

Wait, what's that from?

Me.

Leely Blonde, of course, when she gets Professor Callahan's internship.

Thank you, thank you.

And then he says, screw sisterhood.

How dare he?

How dare he?

Okay, we need to move on to our next story, which will take two seconds.

I like how you're like attacking me, like I'm the one holding us back.

I'm not attacking you.

I'm attacking the show.

And I'm attacking myself, honestly.

It's a self-loathing sort of thing.

Jugging, it's not worth it.

Yeah.

But this story will be brief.

Dancing with the stars cast announced.

Okay.

Season 32.

Wow.

You know,

all good things at some point.

Must come to an end.

But it's not.

It's not good anymore.

It's not going to be now because it's back on ABC.

Oh.

And Disney Plus.

Like it's more platformed than ever.

And these are the stars that will be dancing.

We heard about Ariana Maddox.

And yesterday you guys talked about Jamie Lynn Spears and Charity Lawson, The Bachelorette were already announced.

Now we also have Mauricio Umansky, Real Housewives Beverly Hills star and husband/slash ex-husband of Kyle Richards,

singer Jason Moraz, actress Allison Hannigan, Mira Sorvino, NFL player Romy, Romy, Romy, Romy, NFL player Adrian Peterson, Brady Bunch star Barry Williams, supermodel Tyson Beckford,

and

Harry Jowsey, Lele Pons, and Matt Walsh.

The only person of extreme interest here to me is Mauricio McGumansky.

I don't think we've ever had a house husband on before.

Right.

I would imagine Mauricio is like far too busy being like actually successful in business to be on a show like this.

Like, I find this shocking.

I find it shocking, not the idea of him being on Dancing with the Stars.

I think that's a cute idea.

I agree.

He's a busy businessman, but maybe, I don't know, he pushed all his calls till next month.

Um,

but what's shocking is that how much like front-facing interviews he's gonna be have to be doing at the weirdest time in his life when he probably doesn't want to be speaking on stuff.

So, why would you put yourself in the lion's den where people are just gonna be asking you questions about your relationship all the time?

Like, maybe do

Dancing with the Stars next year or maybe have done it five years ago.

Like, I just think it's really weird that he would choose to do it now because he's going to have to be talking about what's going on in his life every single week.

Yeah, like he's throwing himself in the center of the drama.

Right.

They've been trying to avoid it.

So I think that's weird.

But also, the fact that he's a businessman and doing the show, don't forget that he has his other show.

And so now like doing stuff like Dancing with the Stars is just part of his J-O-B.

That's true.

I forget that he's like a dual reality star.

He also has a Netflix show, which is so crazy.

Yeah.

I do not feel compelled to watch, but that's not different or out of the ordinary from any other season of Dancing with the Stars.

Wish everyone the best.

There isn't like a clear.

Maybe it's Lele Pons.

Who you think would win?

Like, there's usually a clear winner where it's like someone with a lot of social media followers and who can like already kind of dance.

Yeah, does Lele dance though, or does she do comedy?

She does comedy, but she's like a young, fit, active person.

She's Latina, so she has like the beat, you know?

Yeah.

You know who I feel like?

I feel like Harry Jowsey could do well too.

Well, the bar for like a man to do well on the show is so incredibly low.

Yeah.

But I agree.

Or maybe Ariana Maddox.

But I agree.

There's not someone who, you know, has been training in dance their whole life.

Heather Morrison from Glee.

Charlie D'Amelio.

Right, Right, right.

Charlie Deliberately.

A gymnast.

Remember Lori Hernandez?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, there's not a clear winner.

No.

And you know what?

Let's just make a prediction just so we can look back on this when someone wins.

Read me the list one more time.

Oh, wow.

Okay.

Mauricio, Jason Moraz, Allison Hannigan, Mira Sorvino.

Adrian Peterson, Barry Williams, Tyson Beckford, Harry Jowsy,

Lele Pons, Matt Walls, Zochito Gomez, Ariana Maddox, Charity Lawson, Jamie Lynn Spears.

I'm going to say Lele Pons.

I like that for you.

She's like tens of millions of followers.

I'm going to say,

I don't know.

Maybe Charity Lawson.

Okay.

They love a Bachelorette winning.

They do, but the Bachelorette brand doesn't have the pull it used to have, like, back when Hannah Brown and Caitlin.

But just wait till the Golden Bachelor.

It's going to change everything.

It's going to change everything.

Did it start yet?

I don't think so.

But you saw Matt James's mama's on it?

I did see that, and I forgot that I saw that, but it's beautiful.

So cute.

So cute.

Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

I am.

It's a little TV news because the trailer for Kardashian season four has dropped dropped and the trailer is trailering because it looks really fucking good.

And in the clip, Courtney and Kim are on the phone in what looks to be a heated conversation.

The sisters are in the midst of an explosive argument and Kim asks, are you happy?

You're a different person.

You hate us.

We're just all talking about it.

Then Courtney responds while choking back tears saying to Kim, you're just a witch and I hate you.

Not the witch.

That's like so much crazier than bitch.

Yeah, Witch.

The trailer does look good.

It also appears that they're like, you know, altering their turnaround time a little bit more.

It feels a little current.

And I think that they kind of split their last season.

Like, I think what they're filming now is us when we're watching the last episode.

No, I don't think so.

I think the reason why this feels more current is because it's like more behind the scenes stuff that they teased where it's like, we don't know when this happened.

Right.

Because last season ended at Christmas.

i'm sure they like took a little break and then this is probably like january february whereas

we watched this their season in may

oh but courtney's pregnant so oh right she announced her pregnancy when in like may

so yeah maybe maybe

or maybe that's the end of the season you know Right, right.

Well, it still looks good,

but it always looks good.

Yeah, it does always look good.

They do a really good job of teasing stuff, but that one conversation looks worth the whole show.

Yeah, no, and it is interesting to know, like, we're still following along that storyline.

And that's not a storyline I'm fatigued of yet.

Like, there definitely is weirdness between them.

And it still feels like when we follow them on social media currently, like, it does feel like there's a weirdness.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So Courtney's like never with Kim.

She's never, like, they both are like never promoting each other's shit.

Like, there's just a weirdness.

Yeah.

But it's just like that can't be because the family has to stay strong.

So we have to work through it, everyone.

It also looks like we get like a decent amount of Kylie.

Yeah, Kylie's talking about how she feels more like herself than ever.

She's in such a good place.

I love Kylie content.

I always wish we get more.

So hopefully, she'll be pulling her weight this season.

I hope so.

And if she's really feeling so great, like

take us along.

And maybe like some Timite.

Timite.

Chalamé.

Perhaps.

Perhaps.

Anyways, I'm excited.

Premieres Premieres September 28th on Hulu.

It's pretty soon, so I appreciate it.

I feel like...

It doesn't feel like a lifetime away.

Yeah, I felt like the last time it was months.

Months.

I'm like, I don't know where I'm going to be then.

I can't get excited about stuff like that.

Literally.

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All right, our toasters today are very interesting.

We have two submissions and we have an update from the girlies.

So first up is a little bit of a literature controversy, which we've never had before.

Hello, Jackson Turdy.

I recently published a book under a pen name that no one knows about.

It's not an overnight bestseller, but the book is actually doing pretty well.

So far, I've kept it completely separate from my personal life, with only a handful of people who know about it at all.

Not even all of my family knows about it.

I was raised very religious with a huge emphasis on purity culture.

The thing is, my book is a spicy, dark romance featuring a plus-size main character.

I feel like I'm just waiting for someone I know personally to recognize me on my author's social media and expose everything.

I was considering saying what the hell and just announcing the book to everyone to get it over with, but then I told my mother and she cried.

Things are a little better now, and she's being more supportive, but it makes me second guess if I want to deal with the judgment of other people knowing.

Should I just continue living my Hannah Montana double life?

Love a secret author author toaster.

Ooh, I feel like whichever path you choose, like, is you know, good.

This is a good, ultimately a good thing.

Like, you should be so proud that you wrote a book.

Um, you shouldn't be keeping it a secret based on like shame, though, you know?

Like, you should be proud of this.

And I think it's best that you like told your mom first.

And in time, I'm sure she will come around to the idea.

It probably just was like a little shocking, what, because it's like racy.

Yeah.

So she's very, she said, grew up like purity culture.

So I'm assuming, you know, no sex till marriage, you know, you don't talk about that kind of thing.

Right.

So I would give her some time.

But if it's important to you to like put it out there with your name and everything and take ownership of it, then you should do that.

But I feel like you went to such lengths to put it behind a pen name and to kind of have a Hannah Montana double life, which I actually think is a nice thing in general, not just because you wrote a spicy book, but because to have some like delineation and some privacy.

And that way you could write whatever you want.

Cause what if, you know, there's other issues with writing a book?

What if people think it's about them?

What if someone's offended?

You know what I mean?

So you get to kind of like have the perks of like getting your art out there, but protecting your privacy and your peace.

So I would just like really look inward and decide what do you want?

Do you want to claim ownership of this book?

Or?

Do you want to have the freedom to like have nobody in your business?

Right.

And then do what feels right to you because you're not doing anything wrong, you know?

You're not hurting anyone.

The cool thing is that like romance novels are having like such a resurgence and they're so popular and i think you'd be surprised like probably some of your religious girly swirly friends are like out here reading smut like it's kind of this um

thing that used to i really feel like there's a whole episode on friends about like rachel's reading a smut book and it's like so crazy like it really has been destigmatized not to the point where it's like totally

to the point where it's like completely empowering, but it is less.

So I think Jackie's right.

Like, what do you want?

Do you want to be proud and like be able to like post on your with your face I have to imagine marketing a book is very difficult when you can't use your real name or make videos so but there's also a lot of freedom afforded with that so like if that's what you want you just have to decide what you want Jackie's totally right there's no bad option here yeah but once the cat's out of the bag you can't put it back in so just consider that

Just consider that.

Yeah, I like the idea of a pen name.

It leaves a lot of mystery.

You can write whatever you want.

Yeah.

The thing is, when you come out, you can never go back.

If you're, if you're private, like, you can always come out.

Right.

If it's like really, you know, after years, you're like desperate to come out.

Then also there's all this buildup.

So I also don't think you need to make a decision today.

Yeah.

But cool.

Send us a copy.

Yeah.

Oh, send one to Turdy.

Turdy Tails.

She'll read it for Dizzy.

Turdy Tails.

There's no bad decision here.

You really, like, neither one of us can answer this for you.

It's just like, what do you want?

Follow your heart.

You get what you want.

And this winter break, you want turtle.

I mean, every winter break and spring, summer, and fall.

So true.

Okay.

Hey, girlies, I need your help.

I need to decide if I'm being crazy or if I have grounds.

My boyfriend of five years, forever P-JOM, has gone away to Europe to travel for over two months.

I couldn't go because of work.

We have a joint spending account that we use for groceries, bills, et cetera.

We live and have a mortgage together.

He told me that he was surprised I was still using the joint account for groceries and household tings while he was away because he was using his personal expenses to travel.

He even said, quote, so that means I'm paying for half of your food that I'm not eating?

Am I crazy for getting upset that he thinks I should fend for myself while he decided to go away and travel?

Or am I being dramatic?

Is this a hill I'm willing to die on?

Duh.

It's giving cheapskate.

Like,

let your girl eat.

Home is home.

Like, home is home.

Why do my habits have to change?

Because you decided to gallivantron.

You're up for two months.

And yes, technically, like if we're getting extremely mathematical,

yeah, you're paying for your food, so I'll pay for my food.

But like,

hello, like, it's called chivalry and just like, let me eat.

And also, if you didn't have a conversation, not even chivalry, like, she's still home.

Yeah, no, and if there wasn't a conversation before about how let's start use our personal at this time, which I think would be kind of extreme, like, and unnecessary.

If there wasn't a conversation, the fact that he would expect you to just like go and use your personal is, it's just like rude and unnecessary.

Sorry.

Plus, like, he's gone.

Home is home.

Home is home.

And you know what?

Like, yes, if we were to whittle it down, go back and forth with this guy, like, sure.

Do you have a point?

Yeah, I guess.

Do I literally care?

No, bitch, I'm home.

You're traveling.

Like, that's your fucking problem.

I'm not changing my way.

Home is home.

Home is home.

Like, home tings are home tings.

Yeah, no, I'm not changing the credit card on my Instacart account, adding a new card.

No, I'm not doing that.

I have one thing to say:

home is home.

Yeah,

that's a little,

you know,

small.

Like, that's small.

Small, agreed.

It's getting small.

It's getting smaller.

Especially home is small.

Especially because they're together five years.

They have a mortgage.

Like, they have a very, it's not like she's been out, like, pounding the joint account.

Yeah, no, she's buying groceries.

She's groceries.

She's trying to eat.

No.

And it's not even like she's going out to restaurants to eat.

Like she's buying groceries.

Also, like what if somebody said household things, paper towels.

What if some of those groceries are going to still be there when he gets home?

And he's going to be able to do that.

She's just got a big roll of toilet paper.

Yeah.

But what, but the few rolls that she used while he wasn't there, maybe she should pay for just those.

Benmo.

And start recording how many rolls she used.

Like, that's what I'm saying.

It's just small.

Like.

Small.

You want to get in the nitty-gritty?

No, you you don't.

Yeah, because we'll go there, yeah.

So then she should cordon off all the groceries that she bought by the time he gets home and he can't go in that section of the fridge.

Also, are we going to talk about how he's going away for months?

Yeah, that's a lot.

Two months in Europe.

Yeah, like clearly,

he's not, you know, broke because you can't go to Europe for two months if you don't have any money.

So money's not really a factor for him on his big, you know, gallivanting around town, Europe.

So come down.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And like,

I don't know if he's away, he should want you to be in every comfort,

not like fending for yourself, hunting and gathering your own food.

Literally making your own toilet paper.

So

all this to say, you have grounds.

Oh, you're not crazy.

Grounds granted.

And fight harder.

Just keep using the joint.

Yeah, no.

And you know what?

Get yourself a little something nice.

And if he has a really big problem with it, he should come home.

Yeah, we could talk about it at home.

Yeah.

Jeremy.

I don't have long distance minutes.

Can't talk right now.

C-T-R-N.

T-T-Y-L.

All right.

Our third and final deer toasters is a submission.

It was actually a really hot button one.

A girl had written in a few weeks ago that she and her husband were expecting their first child.

They tried for a year, so they were really excited.

And they were talking about names.

And her husband let her know that he wanted to name the baby after his high school girlfriend slash first love who tragically passed away their senior year.

While the girl understood the sentiment, she did not want her to name that.

And his mom said, just like settle with a middle name, like it's weird, but do what you got to do.

Here, she wrote in.

See, the thing is, there's always more to the story, Jacks.

Ready?

Mm-hmm.

Hello, Jackson Turd.

Congrats on your new baby boy and welcome back.

We've missed you.

Speaking of babies, I've got an update for you ladies.

I was a girl whose husband wanted to name their first baby girl after his first love who passed away while they were in high school.

After speaking to him countless times about it, he finally opened up and told me one of his biggest secrets.

His high school girlfriend was actually pregnant when she was killed.

They were the only ones that knew.

His first love's middle name was Elizabeth, and they had discussed giving their baby, had it been a girl, the name Elizabeth.

After crying about it together, I agreed to do a spin on the traditional name.

I also wanted to name her after my grandmother.

So without further doot-da-doo, our baby girl's name is Margaret Eliza.

She'll be called Maggie for short.

I can't wait to meet her in a few weeks.

Oh my God, that gave me chills.

I know.

See, the thing is, there's always more to the the story.

Like, sometimes people are not, like, saying wacky things for no reason.

Right, it's so true.

I think Eliza for Elizabeth is so beautiful.

I mean, maybe her name started with an M,

whatever it is.

That literally gave me chills when you read the name

wrapped up with a bow on top.

See, the thing is, communication is never a bad route to take, ladies.

Maggie.

Maggie, Margaret Eliza.

But they're calling her Maggie.

Yes, I love the name Maggie.

You do.

I call Margo Maggie.

Like, I call Margaret Fish Maggie.

Like, I love the name Maggie.

Love it.

Wow.

What a great way to end the show.

I'm so happy for you.

Totally.

All's well that ends well.

Period.

Exclamation point.

Exclamation point.

And that's our show.

A gorgeous, long episode for you guys.

Hope you enjoyed.

Tomorrow, I'm still.

The schedule is up in the air.

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I am feeling better, but we'll figure it out.

You need to rest today.

Right.

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there'll be crowds in there, but will be shows.

Yeah.

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