Enigmatic Creatures: Tuesday, June 13th, 2023

54m
  • Taylor Swift Cancels Membership at Swanky NYC Club After Pics of Date Leak (Page Six) (12:30)
  • The Idol Viewers Horrified By The Weeknd’s Dialogue During Lily-Rose Depp Sex Scene (The Independent) (16:16)
  • Aaron Rodgers Attends 2023 Tony Awards - And The Internet Is Confused (People) (28:44)
  • Pat Sajak Announces His Retirement From ‘Wheel of Fortune’ After 41 Seasons (People) (35:34)
  • Ezra Miller Issues First Public Comments Since Misconduct Allegations at ‘The Flash’ Premiere (Variety) (44:47)
  • The Toast with Jackie (@JackieOshry) and Claudia Oshry  (@girlwithnojob) 
    Merch
    The Toast Patreon
    Girl With No Job by Claudia Oshry

    See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    Listen and follow along

    Transcript

    Good morning millennials and welcome back to the toast happy Tuesday.

    Hope everyone's having a blessed and sacred day speaking of blessed and sacred

    I have nothing to say.

    No kidding.

    I'm joined in studio by the satcheler.

    Margo is here filling in for Jack's today so we can be in studio looking gorgeous in our white kula.

    In our white kula.

    Margo and I are really like

    have like the same outfit but just different.

    We're both doing like coastal, you know they're calling it now coastal granddaughter.

    Granddaughter.

    Like young coastal grandmother.

    okay i'm in and we're both wearing our sphinx pants you can use code claudia x bangs no you can use code margo xpangs no i think you do i really think you should

    code claudia x bangs i really think you should

    hi how you doing good i can't when you just said it was tuesday like you ruined my day some of the most devastating news i've heard all day should be wednesday by now it should be friday okay yes no like that's pushing it as long as we're asking it should be saturday no because then you're close to monday friday i'm good with but you still have to work on Friday.

    That's what I'm going to say.

    Half day baby.

    I'm on Friday.

    Yeah.

    Well, we're recording, of course, with the counselor so early in the morning, which I'm sure all the girlies will appreciate.

    Yeah, people comment.

    They're like, whenever Margo comes on, it always comes so early because I try to do it before work.

    Before work.

    So I'm happy for everyone, but not for me.

    I woke up literally at the crack of dawn to look as ugly as I do.

    The weather, it's like,

    it's gotten to the point.

    It's no longer hair weather.

    Yeah, I realized it yesterday because I walked to work and normally like I'm fine.

    And I walked to work yesterday and I showed up dripping sweat, like wet hair, not okay.

    And I was like, oh, we're here.

    We're here.

    It's so annoying.

    It's like now is the time of year where you spend so much time on your hair and you walk out and it's useless.

    That's why maybe you just.

    We both look like kind of frizzy today.

    Wait, what do you mean?

    I straighten my hair.

    I was going to say maybe that's why you go into your straight hair era.

    Oh, you think summertime is straight hair era?

    Maybe because if you're sweating, then just it's the same, you know, it like pats down to your head.

    I guess.

    I like I'm so over my like looking wearing straight hair on my head, you know?

    No, I understand.

    I'm back in that, but however, I'm really just a bun girl.

    Yeah, no, I was actually thinking today's like really kind of hot.

    I might, I might.

    Also, you're literally wearing a cashmere sweater.

    Yeah, I am wearing a cable knit.

    That's a really good call.

    Yeah, no, I have no rebuttal to that.

    It's just that like in the summer, everywhere I go is air conditioned, so I end up being so cold when I wear shorts.

    Yeah.

    But I guess this chunky knit was not.

    I'm not in my shorts era.

    That's for damn sure.

    Like to just be walking around the city in shorts like is really tough for me.

    Like if I'm going somewhere, absolutely I'll be in shorts.

    But like wearing shorts to work, like wearing shorts in general, like it just feels fraudulent and like I have to shave my legs and I don't want to do that.

    I am far too old to be wearing shorts.

    Like it's just shorts and me, like we no longer see each other.

    Yeah.

    You know, a skirt.

    I could do.

    A skirt is cute, but I loved winter when we could wear skirts and tights.

    My favorite.

    So we have to shave our legs or tan them.

    So what's new with you, Kizidy, before we dive into the fast five?

    What's new with you?

    Ooh, nothing.

    nothing yeah and now i'm just one week closer to my yellowstone trip that i'm excited for oh happy for you um i actually did we had a conversation last week about like me last minute joining the trip

    but i think i've decided like yeah i figured yeah yeah

    It's just, I really do want to go to Yellowstone, but.

    In your own way.

    In my own way.

    For sure.

    And then I feel like you would go and you'd be like maybe Miz in the tent and then you'd like have this weird like bad taste in your mouth about Yellowstone, but it's not Yellowstone.

    It would be you sleeping in a tent.

    No, and if I went and I wasn't like enjoying the accommodations like it would ruin the trip for everyone oh my god a hundred percent like if you were complaining the whole time a hundred percent yeah because like complaining is my love language but i do know how destructive it can be sometimes complaining is my love language when it's like necessary but if you're complaining and bringing the whole team down that's not allowed i try not to do that but i see how it could It happens to me sometimes, like on nights out, and I'm like, I really want to go home.

    Yeah, yeah.

    I can always sense when you're in one of those moods.

    It does ruin the night.

    I'm sorry.

    No, but you're usually in one of those moods.

    Yeah, but that's because we are the life of the party so like if we bow out it ruins the night for everyone but if you know no offense if like a lesser player bows out it's like bye go home yeah

    anyway 100 so like that's just kind of the burden we both face being these sort of enigmatic creatures wow enigmatic creatures that's the name of this episode 100

    what's new with you

    oh are you Does anybody ever ask you that?

    Oh my God, it's always,

    how are you?

    Not how am I.

    Yeah.

    How am I?

    Well, you know, I hate to bring this up.

    Oh, I know what you're going to say.

    But I am on my period.

    I also have something to talk about here as well.

    And I'm wearing white pants, which is so crazy.

    I always wear white pants on my period.

    I don't know why.

    I think it makes me more cautious.

    No, I mean, like, what?

    We're not getting our periods in the summer?

    Like, we are.

    So we do what we have to do.

    When I posted on my story the other day, I stole Jackie's Rode PR.

    And I wrote, like, stole this from Jackie at Rode.

    Please put me on your PR list.

    Everyone was yamming me, like, manifesting at Claudia, like, whatever.

    But no, I wasn't manifesting.

    I was straight up asking That's the point when I when I made that point on the episode I was just saying people are like misusing language these days No, that would be like that would be like me being like stole Jackie's PR manifesting that I get put on Rode's PR list one day like no I literally wrote Rode please put me on your list.

    Right.

    And by the way, you know what?

    They reached out last night.

    Yes.

    So that is what we that's accomplishing a goal by putting in the work.

    It's not manifesting.

    You worked for it.

    Yeah, I asked.

    That was like the point I was trying to make on the podcast.

    It was just like went over everyone's heads.

    But how am I?

    Back to me.

    I'm okay.

    Just okay.

    Just okay.

    I mean, you can really only be so okay when you're on your period, if I'm being honest.

    I mean, you're day two.

    I'm not like a day four.

    I'm like, you know, day two is worse than day one.

    I agree.

    It is.

    Like, after your body really has figured out the fact that you have your period.

    And like, now that Jackie's out here, I feel like I could talk, we could talk about periods like as freely as I can.

    I can talk about my period all.

    Really?

    Yeah.

    Oh my God.

    I'm a period talker.

    Yeah, because like life is either just like waiting to get your period, being on your period, or just having finished your period.

    And it's not just that.

    It's all the symptoms that come with it.

    I'm like, oh my God, why am I fucking ravenous to start and nothing will help?

    Why am I yelling at everybody?

    Why do I want to cry every five seconds?

    And then it's like, okay, whatever, you get it and you're like, ah.

    Then you have to go through the week.

    Mine is, mine are long.

    Yeah.

    You have to go through the week of like dealing with it.

    Right.

    And then afterwards, you're pretty much fine.

    And then you start ovulating and you're like, even worse.

    Yeah, even worse.

    No, but also, like, once it's over,

    it's like you just survived it.

    So you have to like talk about it.

    Oh, I was just on my period.

    Like, it's lit.

    I don't know how people are not talking about their periods every day of every month i just think it's so crazy like what we deal with like on a monthly basis and like it just it's just normal no no and then we also have to carry the kids it's you know so unfair it's imbalanced it's imbalanced and like i get definitely resentful when i'm on my period i'm like it should be you ben yeah or we switch off right right right you should have ben do like you know on the bachelor they do those dates of like feeling what it's like to like be pregnant oh yeah for a patreon that'd be hilarious that would be be hilarious.

    I wonder where you get that done.

    You can figure it out.

    Have you ever had a lie detector test done?

    No.

    I kind of want to take one.

    I would love to take one because I like feel like I could trick my body.

    I'm like, I really do believe that.

    Yes.

    Yeah.

    You know?

    You should do it.

    I know maybe that's a good Patreon.

    That is a good Patreon.

    We've got a fabulous show today.

    We've got some stories.

    I'm not going to lie.

    Are they like the best stories ever?

    I feel like news has been like light.

    That's what Jackie and I were saying yesterday.

    Yesterday's episode was called the Fast Five Flop Era.

    Right.

    Because it's summertime.

    You know, celebrities are off gallivanting.

    They're not really making news.

    They're in Europe.

    The summer is always the worst stories.

    And like a holiday season, they also go off.

    So there's not a lot going on.

    There's some things going on, but not a crazy amount today.

    I'm not going to lie to you, Margo.

    I would never lie to you.

    No, I didn't.

    Also, like, Taylor's been quiet.

    I do have a little bit of Taylor news, some fallout from something that recently happened, but she's been quiet as well.

    It's also interesting how, like, you know, certain shows of hers are more newsworthy than others.

    Like, yes.

    The last couple of shows were in Chicago, right?

    And then...

    Detroit.

    Detroit.

    And there weren't like a crazy amount of celebs.

    And I feel like there wasn't as much news coming out of it, but coming off of New York shows where she did the karma thing.

    I just feel like some shows are more buzzy than others.

    Yeah, for sure.

    And also, that's normal.

    Like, there's literally so many shows.

    Like, how much could we say?

    Yeah, but I think when she gets to LA, like, I think the next couple of weeks will be like not quiet, but not crazy.

    Like, with Seattle.

    Unless she's like popping out long live.

    I had a dream last night that she did, that I went to a Jonas Brothers concert and they sang long live.

    They did.

    Yeah.

    And I was like, okay, like I got long live, but like just like not with Taylor.

    Which Jonas sister are you?

    Like, which brother do you have?

    I'm a Joe girly.

    You're a Joe girly.

    I'm a Joe girly, for sure.

    Yeah.

    I mean, I've always been a Joe girly.

    Yeah, I know.

    I'm definitely entering my Kevin era.

    I feel like I probably was a Knick girly.

    Like, I was basic when I was young.

    Do you think Knick girlies are basic?

    Like, kind of.

    I do, not like, I just feel like everyone.

    Everyone was a knick girly.

    And then, like, if you were a Joe girly, like, you were different.

    Yeah, pick me.

    Yeah.

    And then Kevin, at the time, I feel like nobody really saw.

    And now I feel like Kevin.

    No, now that we're all grown and we're looking, like, who would we actually want in a husband?

    Oh, Kevin.

    In a father?

    Kevin.

    Oh my God, he's so cute with his kids.

    Thank you, Kevin.

    That's enough.

    Thank you, Kevin.

    That's enough.

    Passes to Kevin.

    Passes to Kevin.

    Kevin's on here.

    Kevin's on here.

    Yeah.

    No, nothing.

    You just distracted me, so I lost my train of thought.

    Okay, well, should we dive in?

    We should dive in.

    I think we should dive in like Taylor.

    It would literally.

    Well, you guys, here are the fast-five stories that you need to know.

    Today's episode is brought to you by Mattress Firm.

    Summer is here, and Mattress Firm's July 4th sale is the place to find high-quality mattresses at every price point.

    This is the sale you've been waiting for to upgrade your sleep.

    Shop in store or online at mattressfirm.com.

    Whether you're having sleep trouble because of your mattress or it's just not feeling right, it is always a good idea to get a new mattress.

    And Mattress Firm is the best in the biz and they have been for many years.

    My mattress is from Mattress Firm.

    I've had it for a very long time.

    It has aged really well.

    It's perfect.

    It's not lumpy.

    It gives me the right amount of support.

    Me and Ben both really like it, even though we're different types of sleepers.

    Mattress Firm carries high quality mattresses for every

    price point from top brands like Temper-Pedic, Stearns ⁇ Foster, Purple, Nectar, Sleepies, Syrta, and more.

    They carry convenient mattresses in a box if that's what you're looking for.

    And they also have more than just mattresses.

    They have bedding and accessories for your sleep needs.

    So adjustable bases are a way to relieve pain, help with snoring, makes watching TV and scrolling on your phone in bed easier.

    With their low price guarantee, you can be confident that you'll find the perfect match at the best price.

    There's really

    never been a better time to get a new mattress.

    When I got my mattress from Mattress Firm, I did shop one of their sales.

    It's a great time to save money you get a great deal and with july 4th coming up you could spend your whole summer sleeping like a bebe and i can't imagine a better way to spend a summer honestly so summer's here don't forget the july 4th sale at mattress firm is the place to find high quality mattresses at every price point it's the sale you've been waiting to upgrade your sleep shop in store or online at mattress firm.com today's episode is also brought to you by caraway get a head start on spring cleaning with caraway their thoughtfully designed sets and complementary storage make getting and staying organized easier than ever you can now save 10% off on the full suite of Caraway products from their internet famous cookware to their newly launched food storage sets.

    Jackie and I always talk about caraway.

    You guys know.

    If you haven't listened to us at this point, like what are you doing?

    Would you like to make a nice summer gazpacho?

    I'd make a chili in the summer.

    I'm not above it.

    And I'm going to be using Caraway all summer long.

    Their pans are the best.

    If you live with someone like Ben who loves to leave like a pan out for hours after he's made eggs or something, you have spent many, many afternoons scrubbing pans.

    But with that non-stick ceramic coated surface Caraway makes it easy to scrub your husband's pans and they're saving marriages all over the country and I think that's beautiful.

    So the naturally slick surface means minimal oil or butter are required for slide off the pan eggs and easy cleaning.

    Their kitchenware comes in a variety of very cool and chic shades.

    All the sets include complimentary, easy access storage solutions.

    You know, if you live in an apartment like I do with not a ton of storage, you have to be really mindful about what you're bringing into your home.

    And Caraway is perfect.

    I love the way they all stack neatly.

    I love their food storage solutions.

    No more like misplacing lids and just like a drawer full of crap, you know?

    So it's non-toxic.

    Their products are made without any toxic materials like PFAs, PTFE, PFOA, or other hard to pronounce chemicals.

    Visit carawayhome.com slash toast10 to take advantage of this limited time offer for 10% off your next purchase.

    This deal is exclusive for toast listeners, so visit carawayhome.com slash toast10 or use code toast10, T-O-A-S-T10 at checkout.

    Caraway, non-toxic cookware made modern.

    Now, our first story is a update from Taylor and Matty Healy when they were spotted out at Casa Cipriani.

    Taylor Swift has now canceled her membership at the Swanky New York City Club after pictures of her date leaked.

    So a source tells page six that Taylor Swift has pulled her membership from the New York City Swanky Members Only Club, Casa Cipriani, after some guests posted photos of her on a date with Matt Healy last month.

    The club has a no-photo policy and they bounced the offending members for snapping the photos of Taylor and the 1975 rocker.

    When reached for comment, the club, though, denied that Swift bailed on being a member.

    So page six reported that at least three members got kicked out for taking pictures of Taylor.

    And then that same source added that Taylor came knowing the policy and then had to leave because

    the photos were taken of her.

    But they are now cracking down like crazy.

    The private club let everyone know that

    two memberships were permanently banned and then a third was put on suspension and has to reapply for the membership, which means they'll not get back in.

    But I think it's interesting that page six is just reporting that she pulled her membership, but

    then Casa Chipriani was like, No, she didn't.

    Here's the thing: I have a really hard time, and even like with any major celeb, I don't think that they have memberships to these places.

    So, what I was going to say is, like, I feel like both parties are telling the truth.

    Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

    Like, I don't think Taylor canceled her membership, but I don't think she ever had a membership.

    I don't think when you're at that level of celebrity, you need memberships to the clubs.

    They're more than happy to have you come and like be photographed outside.

    Yes, exactly.

    So, I don't, like, there's no way she's like paying monthly memberships.

    Right, like, it's like, what, like a couple thousand dollars a year?

    There's no way that she needs that.

    No.

    And I think they need it way more.

    I think she will never return.

    For sure.

    But I don't think she had like a full membership that she then pulled revoke.

    You know, I never really thought about it, but I do find it so interesting how like photos like leach so quickly from that.

    And like when she goes to like zero bond, like never.

    not not a morsel.

    So what had happened was I think the photo that really took the internet by storm was there was a dad there who took a picture to his daughter and sent a a picture to his daughter that's fine which is fine like no one would ever know about it but then the daughter literally tweeted my dad or like my uncle or whatever and literally exposed who it was if it had like surfaced on like a fan page they might not have been able to track down who it was but the girl i guess got so excited and didn't really think about you know what it would cost the person who sent her that photo and was just like oh my god my dad's a constant tibriani and so and literally named him that's just so dumb i know i'm sure he's pissed yeah for sure, because he probably goes there like for business

    stuff.

    No, and like that's a really hard membership club to get into.

    Yeah.

    So once you're in, it's like, oh, phew.

    And then it's like, what if you apply to like other like membership places?

    Like, are you now deemed as the photo taker?

    Right.

    There might be like a stain on your record.

    Like you have a red flag, whatever it's called.

    A stain on your permanent record.

    Yeah.

    Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    Like a suspension or an expulsion from school.

    No, it's like you're on like the no-fly list

    of membership clubs.

    Did you watch Never Have I Ever, the Mindy Kaling Netflix show?

    No.

    You would love it.

    Really?

    Yeah, me and Ben just watched the fourth and final season.

    It was so cute.

    There's four seasons.

    Yeah, and it's like all through high school.

    And I like that they ended it at senior year.

    And like, don't pretend.

    Like, oh, we're going to college.

    We'll do long distance.

    Honestly, it sounds like a show I would watch.

    Yeah, and it's just like very well written.

    Mindy Kaling does such a good job of like writing about teenagers, not in like a cringe way.

    She gets the culture.

    She does Sex Lives of College Girls.

    Wait, what?

    That's a Mindy Kaling show.

    It is?

    Margo, everything good in this world is a Mindy Kaling thing.

    I'm like, I didn't know that.

    I saw him watch the second season.

    Save it.

    It's so good.

    Yeah, I've seen you that recently.

    So that's a different, it's a little different.

    It's like less sexy.

    Obviously, college girls are a little bit more.

    Also, like, it would be incredibly weird, I feel, like, if it was like sexy high school.

    I mean, I guess that's euphoria, but like, that's a whole other thing.

    It's like, they talk about like losing your virginity and stuff, but not in like a gross way.

    Yeah.

    Um, which is actually an amazing segue to a story that I'm going to move up now to the second story.

    Oh, okay, great.

    Have you been hearing about the idol?

    Yes.

    Have you watched?

    No, I like refused to support it too.

    Also, because Jake Sheen like posted a quote that was in it last week.

    Okay, so that's what the story is.

    Okay.

    so viewers of the new HBO Max show, The Idol, are horrified by the weekend's dialogue during a sex scene with Lily Rose Depp.

    So the premise of the show is Lily Rose Depp plays this like pop star who gets involved in like a cult and it's all very like dark Hollywood, which I think conceptually doesn't sound like a bad show, but it's from the creator of Euphoria, who we know is like a fucking weird guy.

    And it gets brushed over a lot, like what goes on in Euphoria because the show is very good.

    And it's like, yeah, there's weird elements that are like kind of inappropriate and bizarre, but like the show show overall is good.

    So like we take it.

    Yeah.

    But people are not loving the idol and so the weirdness is just the only thing kind of shining through.

    Right, right, right.

    And there's only been two episodes and there's still like all this conversation being had.

    And what everyone's talking about is this sex scene.

    So a nasty sex scene from the idol is changing the way that people perceive the weekend.

    The Canadian singer whose real name is Abel co-created the HBO series along Euphoria's creator Sam Levinson.

    He also appears in the series.

    He plays a character named Tedros Tedros, who's an enigmatic.

    Enigmatic.

    By the way, that's weird.

    Do you think maybe I like read, I like skimmed this story before we started?

    And you think maybe it was like in my brain?

    I didn't consciously read anything.

    I think so because I don't really know that enigmatic is in your daily vocabulary.

    Well, I do when I think of like enigmatic, I think of Erica Jane.

    I'm an enigma wrapped in a riddle.

    I think it's a thing.

    I think of Enigma by Lady Gaga.

    Also a great reference.

    Okay.

    So Tedros Tedros is an enigmatic club owner and cult leader who worms his way into the life of a a troubled pop star, Jocelyn, who's played by Lily Rose Depp.

    However, the show has already attracted controversy, most notably over accusations that it depicts an exploitive and misogynistic attitude towards women.

    One particular scene in episode two, which was broadcast on HBO on Sunday, has left viewers cringing in embarrassment.

    It shows a fully clothed Tedros, the weekend, ordering a naked and blindfolded Jocelyn to fulfill his sexual fantasies as he ogles her, ogles her from afar.

    Oh, thank you.

    At once, that's like happens because I just read those words.

    Like, they're usually in books.

    Yeah, yeah.

    And I never know how to pronounce it.

    At one point, he says, okay, I'm not going to repeat this.

    You have to say it.

    Effing stretched that tiny little P word.

    Oh, that wasn't even the bad one that I saw.

    What did you see?

    Let me pull up his story.

    And people were like quaking from this.

    People took to social media saying, I will never see the weekend the same after this.

    He definitely gives me the eck after this episode.

    That scene is straight up nasty, very off-putting, a very hard watch.

    And then more people have criticized just the singer's acting skills.

    What did you read?

    Also,

    he said, imagine my tongue on your pee, my fat tongue.

    Just like,

    it's just like, some things don't need to be written.

    No, and what's so funny, I guess, is like, no, you know what?

    No, no.

    I,

    some things, because what I was saying is like, this this is really dark, but like I think for a lot of people who read Smut, I was just thinking that.

    Like sometimes there's like seeing this is like just gross way of saying it, but like in Smut, they say really dirty things.

    Yeah, but it's

    reading it is so different than like seeing somebody verbally say it, which is why those books are so popular because it's very much a fantasy.

    In real life, those things are cringe.

    Yes, a thousand percent.

    I think that when you like connect someone's voice

    to these things, it automatically makes it weird.

    Yeah.

    But like, okay, so many things.

    One, I didn't know that The Weekend was an actor or trying to be an actor.

    Well, I think this is like his foray into it, okay?

    Being like a co-creator and an actor.

    Are you gonna watch?

    No, me neither.

    At first, I'm not gonna lie, like, I was curious.

    People were saying the show was freaky and weird, and like, you know, there were a lot of rumors before it came out that it was like a very toxic set environment, and like the girls weren't being protected, and it was very sexually explicit, and they weren't following all the guidelines.

    Like, when you do have sex in a show, there has to be like an intimacy coordinator, like

    the stag, there are all these rules.

    and apparently euphoria not euphoria well i'm sure but apparently the idol like wasn't fully following and like a lot of people spoke out to i think it was like a rolling stone expose but people you know they continued on no nothing happened and now it's out and people were like well i don't know what was going on behind the scenes but on the scenes it's fucking weird fucking weird and

    it's just giving the eck i know and also like i love lily rose detp and i wish she wasn't part of it I don't really have any sort of affliction towards Lily Rose Depp.

    I've never seen her in anything.

    I think she's like stunningly beautiful.

    You know, and she's like literally the definition of Nepo Baby, and like I'm living for it.

    Like, for sure.

    Like, tell me somebody who gets an HBO show starring role.

    Who I'm sure she's been in stuff.

    I've never seen her in anything.

    Oh my God, really?

    I feel like.

    What is she in?

    No, I don't know that I've seen her in anything, but I feel like she's been acting her whole life, or has she been modeling?

    Perhaps modeling.

    Yeah, because I feel like she's been around.

    Yeah, who's Lily Rose Depp's mother?

    I've no idea.

    Not Kate Moss, right?

    That's someone else.

    Lily Rose.

    That's Lily.

    That's her sister.

    Oh, they're sisters?

    Lily Rose Depp

    father.

    Oh, no, parents.

    Yeah.

    I get like the whole Depp Moss people confused.

    Her parents

    are.

    Oh, yeah.

    Johnny Depp and Vanessa Paradis, who's like the woman Johnny was married to for a really long time.

    And then did he marry Kate Moss?

    He did.

    I don't know if they Kate Moss, Johnny Depp.

    I do believe they were in like a relationship or like a marriage.

    Let me just clear all this up.

    And then who is Kate Moss's

    daughter?

    They dated for three years.

    They were never married.

    Okay.

    But then is it Kate Moss' daughter or her sister?

    I can never remember.

    Lottie.

    Lottie, I think it's her daughter.

    No, I think it's her sister.

    Sister Lottie.

    But Kate, yeah, but Kate

    has a daughter named something else with an L.

    Yeah.

    Lila.

    That's why I was confused.

    Okay, but those girlies are not in relation to Johnny Depp at all.

    No, not at all.

    But no, Lily Rose Depp is like the perfect looking specimen.

    She's, you know, royalty in Hollywood.

    And that's how you just roll on to an HBO show.

    But I don't know if anyone was expecting it to be as kind of controversial as it is.

    Yeah.

    And there are just like a lot of, there are people who feel like they just don't care.

    There's also very, very, very, very, very few people in this world who could pull off saying something like gross like that and not making it cringe.

    And I think the weekend, who is not a professional actor, might have just flopped, which is okay.

    Viola Davis said it, you know, not everything, you got to flop every once in a while.

    For sure.

    It's a part of the thing.

    Because if you don't flop, then when you, what's the opposite of flop?

    Oh my God, that's so funny that you said that literally yesterday.

    Jackie was trying to say something and she was like, what's the opposite of flop?

    Yeah.

    We don't know.

    Somebody suggested flip.

    No, maybe like, like thrive.

    Yeah.

    Whatever.

    You can't thrive without flopping because then you don't know that you're thriving.

    That's exactly what Viola Davis said when she kind of got dragged for her portrayal of Michelle Obama in that Showtime show.

    It was just, yeah.

    It was, it wasn't like the best acting performance.

    And she was like, you know what?

    Like, you got to flop.

    Yeah.

    And I was like, yes, I loved the acknowledgement of

    being in your flop era so that you can be in your thrive era.

    For sure, but I'm so afraid to be in my flop era.

    Of course.

    What's more terrifying than that?

    Yeah.

    I'm just going to, like, I just feel like in my flop era, I went through it already.

    Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    I definitely went through my flop era when I had my mole.

    Yeah.

    You know?

    What was your flop era?

    Um,

    you tell me.

    Oh my God.

    No, this is like a great way to get to a fight.

    No, no, no, because this is like the games they play on Housewives before they get to fight.

    No, no, no, no, no, no, I know, but I just feel like you would know.

    I feel like your flop era.

    The thing is, you're always perfect to me, so you don't have a flop era.

    That was a really nice, easy way.

    I really can think of one.

    I can think of one, but like, I don't really know if it's a flop era.

    I think it's just called college.

    Literally.

    You know?

    Yeah, I was definitely flopping all over the place.

    Oh, yeah.

    But what was sad is like, I thought I was like hot shit.

    that's it.

    And then I go back and I look and I'm like, girly pop.

    But that's the thing about adolescence is like you're always trying to find yourself and you go through like various weird stages thinking like, oh, I found myself.

    I'm writing my skateboard.

    Like this is who I'm meant to be.

    Remember us on our penny boards?

    Right.

    Like you go through these weird phases to ultimately get to who you are today.

    Right, right.

    And who you are today, you might look back on and cringe.

    Isn't that scary?

    Yes, but I feel pretty confident in who I am today.

    I don't know that I would look back on me right now.

    But you would have said that in college too.

    No.

    Yes.

    I don't think I would have.

    You would have.

    I don't think I would have.

    You'd say like, this is who I am.

    Like, I need to work on on my art.

    Leave me alone.

    Mommy ruining my life.

    That was

    literally.

    But I would have, if you would have asked me, I would have said, like, this is who I'm meant to be, and I will always be this person.

    It's just what I'm saying counts.

    Are you ready for some news?

    I am.

    Also, there is something I want to discuss, but I don't know if it's a fast five.

    What is it?

    Summer I turn pretty.

    Let's talk about it.

    The trailer.

    The trailer.

    The kind of orchestral version of August by Taylor Swift.

    They're always putting Taylor Swift in their soundtrack.

    Last season for the trailer, I think think it was This Love, right?

    Was it?

    This love is good, this love.

    And then the actual soundtrack had Lover, Cruel Summer, The Way I Loved You,

    Oh, The Way I Loved You, that scene.

    I read those books maybe three years ago, and I felt like a little too old to be reading it, but it was kind of like a guilty pleasure, like Tidney Bopper, Young Adult Romance, and it was really sweet.

    And now I'm three years older, and the way I'm so invested and like obsessed with the show.

    I read the books five years ago when I was in college and I that's a perfect time to read them.

    Yeah, but even then I felt too old.

    Yeah.

    And I thought they were good.

    I wasn't like dead, like dying for it.

    And then the show came out and I was like, oh my god, so good.

    And then I reread all of the books just because I wanted to know what happened, what happened, even though I feel like I don't know that they're completely going to like it.

    I think they will.

    No, I think they will in terms of like

    storyline, like who she ends up with.

    But in terms of like how to get there, I don't know that it'll be the same.

    Yeah.

    But no, the way that I'm like just like obsessed.

    No, same.

    Like, just Jenny Hand does such a good job at like

    bringing her work to life.

    Yes, but also like

    she just has her like finger on the pulse in terms of like, just like getting Taylor involved.

    And like, I mean, I don't know if that was her.

    No, but like, I don't know if it was her, but I definitely, she's a huge Swifty.

    Yeah.

    And so is Lola.

    So I'm sure that whoever the person is that's in charge of getting sound rights.

    Yeah.

    She was like, you need to get Taylor to approve.

    And then when everyone was dying that Taylor was part of it, I'm sure Taylor then reached out.

    Yeah.

    It's literally literally the best show.

    It's so beautifully done.

    Like, Where is Cousins?

    I'm going.

    No, I know.

    That house was stunning.

    I know.

    I'm so, I can't believe there are people who are not Team Conrad.

    Like, it's disgusting.

    I'm so sorry.

    It makes like no sense.

    No, Jeremiah is.

    He's not trying to be a Joe girly.

    It's like pick-me energy.

    Like, Jeremiah is not it.

    He will never be it.

    He never was it.

    Like, it's so clearly.

    He's also like borderline annoying.

    Yeah, he's like immature on the show.

    Like, Conrad, yeah, he's like moody and stuff because he's like going through stuff.

    He's finding himself and he needs, he needs belly.

    What's belly?

    Belly.

    Belly.

    That's kind of like the only problem I have with the book.

    Belly.

    Like it should be Bella.

    Don't call a girl Belly.

    Like it's not nice.

    No, it's so mean.

    It's so it's not nice.

    Thank God she doesn't have any like body image issues because if she did and everyone was running around you know belly the beach calling her belly.

    Yeah.

    That would be destructive.

    I couldn't agree more.

    Toward her mental health and self-confidence.

    A thousand percent.

    And it's soon, July 14th.

    I can't wait.

    I literally remember I was at a wedding, like a destination wedding in Montreal the last time it came out and my TV had Netflix and and I almost cried.

    I watched the entire thing, the wedding weekend.

    Like, I couldn't wait till I got home.

    No, I'm watching it the night it comes out.

    I'm, but also, I kind of want to rewatch the first one.

    Like, let's relive it again.

    Yeah, I re-watched it twice, but I would re-watch it again.

    It is far and away the best show.

    And I know it's like, I'm too old for it, but what I like about it is that it doesn't make me feel weird.

    No, it's also like a sort of like nostalgia.

    That's what it is.

    So it's like, we're not watching it being like, oh, we're in the same position as these people.

    Right.

    Like, it brings you back to when you were that age.

    It like glorifies that time in your life when like you're getting older and like you start liking like having like real relationships and you think it's like the great love of your life.

    Right.

    It's you're right.

    Nostalgia is the perfect word.

    Oh, I can't wait.

    I'm actually going to like literally run home and watch the first season again.

    Okay, but the story I was going to get into, which was not that, is Aaron Rodgers is confusing people.

    Because he attended the 2023 Tony Awards and everyone on the internet was beyond confused.

    He's been doing weird things lately.

    He caused quite the reaction on social media after his surprising attendance to the 76th annual award show celebrating Broadway stars on Sunday night.

    He arrived with his New York York Jets teammate, CJ Uzoma.

    So he was sleekly dressed.

    He looked great, but everyone was like, why are you here?

    Fuck.

    I have a theory.

    Well,

    we do find out why, but I would have thought,

    yeah, it's weird, but he's like a New Yorker now.

    That's what I'm saying.

    And he's the star of, he's going to bring this franchise back to life.

    When you become like the star of a New York team, New York teams aren't great.

    So like when they have a star player, Carmelo Anthony, like you become like the most famous person in New York.

    You're on the cover of the New York Post every day.

    Like that's just par for the course.

    So going to, what's more, what's more of a New York event than the Tony's?

    No, for sure.

    I feel like he's like they're in their offseason now.

    So he is like, I need to be like boy bow town in New York.

    Like

    go to all the hot spots, go to all the hot things.

    Taylor Swift.

    Like just like so I like he's doing his part, which is, isn't this what we would want him to be doing as the face of New York?

    So people like took to social media and were like, the way Aaron Rodgers looks at the Tony's is the exact way I picture him looking at the Tonys.

    Aaron Rodgers looks like he just spotted a member of his family at the Tony's.

    Are my eyes messed up or is that Aaron Rodgers at the Tony's?

    Aaron Rodgers at the Tony's is like Nathan Lane at the Espys.

    So

    it then did come out that the teammate he arrived with whose name was CJ.

    I'm sorry, I'm literally having a stroke.

    CJ Zoma was actually a producer of one of the shows.

    So he was there to like supporting a teammate.

    There was a connection.

    It was definitely bizarre, but like, not really, actually.

    And also, even if that wasn't the case, like, I think what we said, I don't think it's, I don't see it as a problem.

    No, me neither.

    It makes a little sense.

    Do you think he met Leah Michelle?

    That's a good question.

    Did you see the picture of Leah Michelle and Alex Noel?

    No.

    Her glee co-star who won a Tony.

    I think a lot of people were like quaking that they were going to be in the same room because when a lot of people, you know, came out speaking about Leah, like, I think Alex was, you know, involved.

    Oh, in a bad way.

    Yeah, like, not in a complimentary way.

    And Leah posted a photo with Alex and was like, congratulations.

    Because Alex won a Tony.

    Oh, I saw her whole story, but I guess I just didn't put it together.

    Yeah.

    And she's also just like, it's like a glee moment.

    Yeah.

    I saw her post a photo with Darren Chris, but

    we know that they're thick as thieves.

    Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    The LMDC tour.

    Oh, my God.

    And when they went on tour together, Leah, Michelle, and Darren Chris, and they couldn't come up with a better name for the tour than the LMDC.

    LMDC.

    So church is disappointing.

    Did they say that?

    Somewhere Rachel Berry is yes?

    I feel like her run is almost up.

    Have you seen it?

    Are you okay?

    Did you come with me?

    Yeah.

    Oh.

    Sorry, I forgot.

    No, she extended.

    No, I know, but like, that was a while ago.

    Yeah, but I feel like she'll extend again.

    Obviously, it's sad that she couldn't win the Tony because only when you reprise the role are you eligible.

    Like Beanie would have been eligible.

    Oh, that's what it is?

    Yeah.

    She wasn't even nominated.

    She's not eligible for that category.

    Oh, it's only like the original cast.

    Like when the show first comes out.

    That's so fucked.

    Yeah.

    I was wondering why.

    Yeah.

    Because obviously, if she had been nominated, she would have won one.

    She brought Broadway back.

    Right, but she's not eligible for the nomination.

    At least they let her host, right?

    She hosted?

    No, she wasn't.

    She's been making things up.

    Yeah, she just performed, I think.

    Oh, I don't think they would have let her host.

    Like, that's too much.

    It's too much.

    Like, yeah, no, I don't think so.

    Oh.

    Okay.

    Okay, so Aaron Rodgers had his reasons.

    Okay, but see you.

    He has reasons.

    Just like you.

    Today's episode is brought to you by Lululemon, specifically the Lululemon shorts.

    They were made to stretch, flex, and support the infinite ways of working out, giving you the courage to leap into something totally new and unexpected.

    So, they have tons of fabulous shorts at Lululemon.

    I feel like Lululemon is a go-to destination for so many of you guys.

    But with summertime, it's so hot in the studio today.

    I wish I was wearing my Lululemon shorts.

    With summertime, you know, kind of being here already, it's so hot.

    You're running errands, you're working out.

    You need comfortable shorts that are going to absorb, you know, all the moisture in your nether regions.

    And Lululemon is a brand that you can trust.

    So the Hottie Hot Short is one of my favorites.

    They're a comfortable short with a comfortable range of motion, so you can move freely with confidence.

    Their lightweight, swift fabric, lets in airflow so you can move without baggage.

    It's designed to wick away sweat before you even notice that it's there.

    They also have the Wonder Train short.

    It's a short with supportive stretch that keeps you dry.

    It's powered by Everlux fabric.

    The Wonder Train collection manages heat and sweat so you stay comfortable and focused.

    It's sweat-wicking, quick-drying, and really supportive in terms of stretch.

    I will not put anything on my body that does not stretch.

    It's just not like I'm at a point in my life where that's just my rule.

    And everything at Lululemon is so comfortable, weightless, fabulous.

    They also have great men's stuff.

    You know, Father's Day coming up for the man in your life, you can get them the pacebreaker short.

    It's a versatile short that's up to any challenge.

    It has secure storage, which means you can keep things close without feeling them bounce around.

    So get into the Lululemon shorts at lululemon.com.

    That's L-U-L-U-Lemon.com.

    Today's episode is also brought to you by Article.

    Summer's on its way, and have you been dreaming up ideas for your outdoor space and how to make the most of it?

    Well, the time is now.

    You don't want to spend another summer with, like, you know, unusable outdoor seating areas.

    That's why you got to check out Article, you guys.

    The best thing about summer is getting to do all of your favorite indoor things outside.

    So that means having meals, watching movies, falling asleep on the couch.

    Everything is just better, Alfresco, especially under the summer stars.

    So check out Article.

    They believe in delightful design for every home, and thanks to their online-only model, they have some really delightful prices too.

    So their curated assortment of mid-century modern, coastal, industrial, scandy, and boho designs make furniture shopping simple.

    Their team of designers are all about finding the perfect balance between style, quantity, and price.

    They're dedicated to thoughtful craftsmanship that stands the test of time and looks good doing it.

    So there's so many things to love about Article.

    One, their price points are really fair.

    They're good quality furniture.

    They have a ton of different styles.

    So whether you're going for like a coastal grandmother aesthetic, you can find whatever you're looking for at Article.

    But really, I think the best part of Article is the shipping.

    Jackie's out.

    She has like the screened in porch area in her house and she got a ton of furniture from Article.

    And I was actually there when it got delivered.

    It It was so efficient.

    They were so communicative.

    It did not take a crazy long time, which a lot of furniture companies are doing now.

    So it's affordable shipping across the US and Canada.

    They won't leave you waiting around because you pick the delivery time and they send you updates.

    every step of the way.

    Their customer care team is super knowledgeable.

    So when you need them, they will be there to make sure your experience is smooth and stress-free.

    And they're offering our listeners $50 off your first purchase of $100 or more, which is pretty fabulous.

    To claim, visit article.com slash toast and the discount will be automatically applied at checkout.

    That's article.com slash T-O-A-S-T for $50 off your first purchase of $100 or more.

    Ready for our next story, which is kind of sad?

    Well, no, it's sad.

    Pat Sajak has announced his retirement from Wheel of Fortune.

    After 41 seasons, he says the time has come.

    On Monday, the 76-year-old TV personality announced that he would retire after the show's upcoming 41st season, which begins filming in September.

    Well, the time has come.

    I've decided that our 41st season, which begins in September, will be my last.

    It's been a wonderful ride, and I'll have more to say in the coming months.

    Many thanks to you all.

    He posted it on Twitter, which is, you know, very cool of him.

    Very relaxed.

    Pat, say, Jack's relaxed.

    And now, of course, while this is sad, everyone's like, well, who is it going to be?

    Right, right.

    Well, I mean, you know what?

    It's sad.

    It makes sense.

    No, it's

    time.

    It is time.

    Like, you can't.

    do something forever.

    But, you know, he's really a staple in the homes of millions of Americans.

    I think a lot of people have seen him on their TV show.

    Like, you know, their grandparents have seen him on them.

    Yes, for sure.

    So it begs the question, who fills the role?

    Who fills the role?

    And I think it's Wheel of Fortune, Vanna White.

    Yes.

    Okay, because people are saying they're grooming somebody's daughter to take over Vanna White.

    Was it Pat's Ajax?

    Oh, I didn't know that.

    That's what I saw.

    Oh, that's a good idea.

    Either Vanna White's daughter or Pat's Ajax's daughter.

    But then what, Vanna would then become Pat?

    No, Vanna, like, will retire.

    Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    Yeah, I mean, when Jeopardy, when Alex Trebek passed away, like a few people came to mind to be replacements.

    I think a lot of people immediately assumed Ken Jennings.

    So there was like a few people in the running.

    I really can't think of anyone

    who's going to fill in.

    I feel like it'll be like

    a professional host.

    Yes.

    I'm thinking.

    Also, because like it's a lot of work.

    It's a daily show.

    It's a lot of work.

    They film like a million episodes a year.

    It's a great job.

    It's a great job.

    It's a great coveted job.

    It's a job with a lot of

    job security.

    I feel like they're going to go with a youngin'.

    Yeah.

    Not too young.

    No, no, no, but like 30s 40s yeah hmm i know maybe a woman maybe i mean maybe vanna right is that i don't know is that a bad call i think so because like if vanna's still on the show like she should be doing like what she's known to be doing i think yeah

    I mean, can we talk about how Vanna has like the best job in the whole world?

    No, literally, she doesn't even speak.

    Yeah.

    I mean, look at this picture of Vanna White and Pat Sajak from when they first started.

    Like, they've been doing this for 40 years.

    You know what's so crazy that like they didn't end up together?

    I know, but like

    Yeah, that's actually a good point.

    I think when I was younger like I thought they were married.

    Yeah, of course,

    but they're not.

    They're not.

    They're probably just really good friends or they hate each other.

    He began hosting The Wheel of Fortune in 1981.

    That's so crazy.

    That's so crazy.

    Talk about job security.

    And they won't just end the show, right?

    No.

    It's a staple in American culture.

    Also, I'm sure the ratings are still good.

    Like, why would they?

    Right, right.

    Vanna said like years ago in an interview, I don't even want to think about that,

    Pat or us leaving.

    I mean, we're a team.

    That's depressing.

    I don't even want to think about it.

    So they've never like really said what they think will happen after their time.

    They like just assumed it would go on forever.

    Right.

    Well, I am available.

    Would you do it?

    Yeah.

    Okay.

    You know what I mean?

    Like you have to move to LA.

    No, I feel like they would do it here for me, you know?

    Oh, for sure.

    They would like, no.

    Like, you couldn't leave your family.

    Right, right.

    But it's a dream job, honestly.

    You literally do nothing.

    That's true.

    And you're just like, and you just like, are like, whoosh.

    No, you don't even do it.

    The other, all the contestants do it.

    You do it once at the end for the final spin.

    Do you have you ever even watched Willie Flatten?

    Have you watched For Desperate Housewives?

    No, literally.

    I only have, as a kid, like, yeah, I watched it, but like, either because it was like on a Grammy and Pop's house.

    Yeah.

    Or

    it was like, I was waiting for my show.

    For Desperate Housewives.

    Yeah.

    Channel 7.

    Can you believe how young we were watching Desperate Housewives?

    I'm always talking about that.

    No.

    Also, a lot of things.

    Like me, especially, because I had three older sisters, so like I would watch whatever you guys watch.

    Like the OC.

    Yeah, that was a dark show.

    Yeah, that was a dark show.

    Gossip Girl, like Gossip Girl was fun.

    Like I think that that was fine.

    Yeah, but I also feel like Gossip Girl was a little bit later.

    I think we were in like,

    I was in high school for Gossip Girls.

    I was in middle high school.

    Like both.

    Like seventh, eighth, nine.

    But yeah, no, the OC, I remember watching like

    Marissa was like always going down like dirt, murder.

    They covered some like heavy topics.

    Gun violence, that episode.

    Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    They covered some heavy shit, like that we might have been too young to be watching.

    For sure.

    But Desperate Housewives, yeah, but Desperate Housewives was so aesthetically pleasing to watch that I feel like that's really all I cared about was like the suburban like Brie with her hair and like whatever.

    But then I don't really think I understood what was going on.

    Okay, wait, I'm so glad you brought that up because never have I ever is filmed on Wisteria Lane.

    Does it look like it?

    Yeah, I mean, didn't you go to Wisteria Lane once?

    I did.

    Davey and her mom live in Susan Meyer's house.

    It's like a little different, but if you know Wisteria Lane, you know it.

    And every now and then they're like driving or biking like down the street and it's Wisteria Lane.

    Across the street from their house, like sometimes you can see when they're like standing outside their house, is Lynette's house.

    And all the houses, like, they can be taken down and like changed a little bit, but the outside is still very much the same.

    Like Susan's is yellow, Lynette's is green.

    And

    when I went to Wisteria Lane, I did daily pop on the universe a lot, and Justin Sylvester gave me a tour.

    And I was like, we went to

    where they, what's the town in

    fuck me in the ass.

    What's the heart of Dixie?

    Yes, Bluebell.

    Bluebell, which is also, I think, Stars Hollow from Gilmore Girls.

    Okay.

    Then I was like, is Mysteria Lane here?

    He was like, oh, yeah.

    And we went and Gabby Solise's house is like, I think the only one that hasn't changed a bit.

    We like sat on the steps.

    It was one of the coolest things.

    No, that is so cool.

    Like that just is like so iconic.

    Iconic.

    Also, Heart of Dixie, iconic show, not talked about enough.

    Yeah, I never finished it.

    Oh my god, you should.

    I know.

    Long live the heart.

    Long live the soul.

    Who knows what he wants?

    It needs to breathe.

    Sure, I have no idea what you're talking about.

    they came on the show and they like performed at one of like the town functions like the church bake sale no like you know they always had like their block parties yeah um those towns are like not real

    i know they're not actually real no shit like that doesn't happen i know and if it does i need to go oh no i dream to like live in a small town where like you know nobody pays taxes and they all just like live in nice houses and like work like never and there's every weekend there's like you know the the church dance off or the library read-along.

    Like, there's always these,

    like, where is that?

    Did you ever watch Virgin River?

    Because it's literally the plot of Heart of Dixie, just like a bit more dramatic and like older.

    What channel?

    Netflix.

    And

    remember the doctor who was always mean to Rachel Bielson?

    Like, when she came into the world.

    Bielson?

    Yeah.

    He's the same doctor who's mean to the new nurse.

    It's the same thing.

    That's weird.

    Yeah.

    And Scott Porter is in Heart of Dixie from Friday Night Street from Friday Night Lights.

    He's also, do you watch Ginny and Georgia?

    No.

    You don't?

    No.

    For some reason, I can't get into the never have I ever Ginny and Georgia's like, oh my God, Margo, you have to watch Ginny and Georgia.

    Olivia made me watch it.

    She's like, it's so bad, but it's so good.

    And that's literally the definition.

    It's the worst show on television.

    Okay.

    And like, you will hate Ginny, but she's just like a young girl going through it, you know?

    You can't blame her.

    You can't blame her.

    And it's, and Scott Porter's in it.

    At least he like has got like a nice career.

    I feel like if I could want to be anyone, like in terms of level of fame, like Scott Porter definitely lives a very nice normal life.

    He probably makes a lot of money.

    He has like an iconic role, but he's not so famous.

    He can go to the grocery store and like maybe one person will ask him for a selfie.

    Or like he'll walk by and everyone be like, why does that guy look so familiar?

    Yes, giving like Judy Greer energy.

    Yeah, yeah.

    You know Judy Greer?

    Yeah.

    She's also like, I think

    like a very well-known person.

    Not really.

    I think.

    Oh, is she the one in 13 Go Around 30?

    Yes.

    She's like the friend in everything.

    I think the title of her memoir was, I don't know where you know me from.

    That's a good book.

    Because people are always like, where do I know you from?

    And that's her.

    I think that that's so rude.

    It's so rude, but I think she took her power back.

    Let me just make sure I'm not making that up.

    Judy Greer Memoir.

    I feel like that's also a good book.

    I Don't Know What You Know Me From.

    Confession, My Life as a Co-Star.

    That's such a good name.

    And I feel like her book is good.

    I kind of want to read it.

    So she's very much like giving Scott Porter energy.

    Yeah.

    They both have iconic roles, 13 going on 30, but they've also been in everything, never as the star.

    Right.

    Taylor Kitch can't go anywhere.

    Taylor Kitch can't go anywhere.

    Rachel Bielson can't go anywhere.

    No, Rachel Bielson, why can't you say her name?

    Bilson.

    Rachel Bielson.

    Mielson.

    Rachel Mielson.

    Rachel Bielson.

    Mielson.

    What is it?

    Bilson?

    Bielson.

    I like Bielson.

    Mielson.

    I like Rachel Mielson.

    She's really spirited.

    Rachel Bielson.

    Rachel Bilson is like a

    A-list.

    Like, she's like a star.

    100%.

    She is not a certain category.

    No matter what category, She's not in the same category.

    No.

    Although I do wish her and, you know,

    Seth Cohen had worked out.

    Same, but Seth Cohen and Blair Waldorf, like you couldn't have asked for a better crossover.

    But like, don't you think Layton Meester and Rachel Bilson are the same person?

    Cut from the same cloth?

    A thousand percent.

    Yeah, he obviously is a type.

    Yes, for sure.

    I love that for him.

    All right, are you ready for our fifth and final story?

    I am.

    Which, like, honestly, is a story, like, I genuinely do not care about, but it was on the cover of every

    single thing, and I feel like maybe people care about Ezra Miller.

    I don't know who that is.

    Okay.

    So, Ezra Miller made his first public showing for the first time in nearly in nearly two years on Monday night after attending the LA premiere of The Flash.

    So I obviously had never heard of Ezra Miller until

    all these allegations came out about him and there was like this video that went around of him like choking a woman and a lot of misconduct allegations came about him.

    So oh the first time I learned about him was like oh he is done.

    You know that's what my first interaction was with him.

    Oh, he'll never work in this town again.

    Okay.

    But now it's like nobody cares.

    He's going to this big premiere of a movie.

    He spoke openly about the misconduct allegations levied against them and various legal woes that he addressed.

    They addressed their fans and many industry players at the Chinese theater in Hollywood.

    So

    there was a big show of acknowledging Warner Brothers, the Discovery CEO.

    basically thanking them for their grace and discernment and care in the context of my life and in bringing this moment to fruition.

    So here's basically what happened.

    Ezra Miller like became famous and then all these things happened in the course of like a couple of weeks.

    Miller was charged with felony burglary in Vermont.

    Police investigated their involvement in a robbery at a private residence.

    In 2020, a video emerged depicting Ezra Miller as they appeared to be choking a woman outside a bar in Iceland.

    No charges were filed.

    The actor was also arrested twice in Hawaii.

    Oh, so he's just a criminal all over the world.

    Once for disorderly conduct and harassment, pled no contest to a single count of misdemeanor, disorderly conduct in the Hawaii case, and paid a $500 fine.

    The harassment charge was dismissed.

    But then he received a rock star welcome at the Flash Premiere introduced by director Andy Muschietti.

    So yeah, I just find it interesting how I find it interesting how the machine picks and chooses who to cancel, who to hold accountable.

    If you're going to hold people accountable, hold everyone accountable.

    If you're going to hold not everyone accountable, don't hold anyone accountable.

    Right.

    Because I guess they're varying degrees, but this reminds me of like somebody who was, you know, actively acting and promoting stuff who had allegations come out army hammer right they

    replaced his role in a movie with josh dumel they he was on death and death on the nile was already filmed and they did like a fake premiere didn't invite him like the movie was kind of swept under the rug right um even though it was actually a very good movie i was not gonna say such a good movie we watched it so it's just interesting how like army hammer would be arguably harder to like because he's he was established at the time to like do every household name yeah like to like get rid like not get rid of but like get rid of get rid of whereas this guy no one knows him from Adam very well like not well known easy to have just been like oh well we tried we gave you a shot you kind of botched it bye yeah I feel like people at least for me my only experience with Ezra Miller is the bad things about him right so it's just I always find it so interesting who Hollywood like chooses and doesn't choose there's such a

    selective outrage yes and it's like I guess we're not caring about Ezra Miller okay cool so noted noted I was never gonna see the flash I don't particularly know or care about Ezra Miller me neither and my life remains unaffected.

    But I guess if you're in the DC Marvel world, like this is big news for you.

    Oh, yeah.

    The DC Marvel world is a whole other thing.

    I have not seen, this is just kind of like a crazy fact about me.

    Like, I've never seen a Marvel movie.

    I don't know which I've seen.

    I think you saw Wonder Woman, which is Marvel/slash DC.

    I'm sorry, I don't know which one's.

    I don't know which one's which.

    Like, I've seen Wonder Woman.

    I've seen some of the Superman movies.

    You have?

    Like, I mean, the OG ones, I remember, with like Andrew Garfield.

    I feel like we saw.

    Spider-Man.

    Sure.

    Oh, yeah.

    Yeah, no, I saw

    Toby Maguire.

    Oh, Oh, Toby Maguire.

    I saw him.

    And then I saw the most recent one with Zendaya.

    Was it good?

    Yeah, they're so cute.

    Yeah.

    And then I've seen,

    I think I weirdly saw Black Widow once.

    I tried to take Magnolia to a movie and it was just not the type of.

    Just you and Magnolia?

    No, no, no.

    And I was with a friend.

    That was your floppera.

    Yeah, no, literally.

    And she was like barking the whole time because it's so

    like not actually barking.

    Like I could hear her growl, so I'd like hold her.

    Oh my god, I took Theo to lunch a few like a week ago, and he barked in the middle of the quiet restaurant.

    It was one of the most horrifying things ever.

    Yeah, no, it's extremely frightening.

    And then I saw

    what else is there?

    I don't know.

    But I actually kind of want to get into it.

    I feel like it's like a whole world.

    Oh, Batman I've seen, obviously.

    Ben made me see Batman with, well, we saw one of the Heath of Ledger, like when we were

    Dark Knight Rises.

    I never saw it.

    That's one of my favorite movies.

    No, I know.

    Did you never see my comedy special, Disgrace Queen, where I talk about Dark Knight Rises and how I've never seen it?

    I mean, I was on tour with you and I don't remember that.

    Yeah, like about how I just used to like lie about stuff for no reason.

    Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

    When people be like, have you seen Dark Knight Rises?

    And I was like, yeah.

    Even though I hadn't.

    It's so good.

    Available to stream now on Amazon Prime.

    I want to see the new Batman with Robert Pattinson, which I know came out like a year ago.

    Yeah, me too, but I only want to see it because Robert Pattinson.

    And Ben is like a

    Batman obsessed.

    Is he?

    And he didn't love it.

    But I think he just feels deeply connected to Christian Bale.

    That's what he is.

    Yeah.

    He was the Joker.

    Yeah.

    No, I don't know.

    Like, this whole universe, I don't know.

    Because, like, okay, and then there's the Joker movies.

    Yeah, with Joaquin Phoenix.

    Is that DC Marvel?

    I'm going to assume it looks like.

    Because those feel like more elevated art films.

    Maybe.

    Right?

    No, but honestly, like, Dark Knight Rises even feels like more elevated art films, too, than like

    The Avengers.

    Yeah.

    Avenger Endgame.

    Yeah.

    I want to be the Endgame.

    And also, I know how Avengers Endgame ends.

    Like, somebody told me.

    Oh, don't tell me.

    Also, did you have any FOMO from Ed Sheeran this weekend?

    No.

    I didn't think I would, but I saw like everybody there.

    Margo, except he wasn't when I asked when someone told me, I was like, how was it?

    And they were like, so good, like, amazing.

    I was like, was it a one-man show?

    And they were like, yeah.

    We went to an Ed Sharon concert.

    And like, I'm sorry.

    It was just not a good concert.

    Like, I'm not into the whole intimate setting at a stadium.

    Like, I need you to have a band.

    No, it's like, if it's just you, your guitar, and your loop, like, that's cool for maybe an acoustical songs.

    Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    But, like, if I can hear the planes flying above the stadium louder than I can hear you,

    what are we doing here?

    I understand.

    Stadiums are stadiums.

    We saw Life Goes On with Luke and Ed Sheeran, like, I'm good.

    That song, that collab that Ed Sheeran did with Luke Homes, I feel like nobody's talking about it.

    I will listen to it every day.

    Me too.

    live gone and like that little run like Luke Jumps Luke does is so

    yeah so I was telling everyone this like my summer of concerts even though like I missed the concert last week but I just wasn't in the mood noah Khan how was it

    can we talk about that yeah I mean it was amazing like now it listen like he sounds so much better live than he does on like he sounds the same but like with like the band He just it sounded so good that now when I listen to the music, it's not enough.

    Yeah.

    Like I need like to hear like that's what they say.

    Like I don't, headphones isn't enough.

    I need this song up my ass.

    Yeah, I need his songs up my ass.

    Yeah.

    He was so, so good.

    Also, like, so proudly Jewish.

    Like,

    I love that.

    I always forgot that about him.

    Yeah.

    Like, they were calling like Jewish Capaldi.

    And he was just like amazing.

    And he put on such a good show.

    And, like, everybody there knew every single fucking thing.

    And everyone there, like, knew how special it was because it was very hard to get tickets.

    Impossible.

    But no, like, it was just so good.

    And have you listened to his new songs, like the one on the top?

    yeah

    um no it was so good okay good he'll be here

    we're going to luke

    um yes we're going to luke in boston if you ever actually talk to me i know margo like we keep needing to plan this trip to boston but like i'll play nothing is planned and i'm just like we need to just like take 20 minutes i know and figure it out i hate planning stuff margo like technique i'm such a planner margo will text me like once a week are you in a good headspace to plan our boston weekend nah I'm such a planner because like I just like I need I just need to know what I'm doing like I plan my weeks out I know what I'm doing like whatever So, like, I just, it's easier to get it done.

    No, for sure, for sure.

    We'll plan it soon, I promise.

    Um,

    and I think we might also go to Philly, like, if

    we feel like it, yeah.

    And what other concerts are going on this weekend?

    I mean, this summer, summer.

    We should go to, I don't know, I got another country festival.

    I was, oh, festival?

    I know.

    I feel like there's so many over the summer.

    I feel, I don't know if, I don't know if they're like during true summer.

    Like, I know there was like Tortuga and there's like a bunch of random ones, I feel like, in like May.

    But I don't know.

    I would totally go to a festival, but I don't know what there is.

    And then also,

    we should go to Taylor again.

    Yeah, we're thinking about

    going to Taylor again.

    That's for sure.

    I just feel like I'm not satisfied, even though I bet went three times.

    I actually do feel satisfied.

    I don't feel satisfied.

    But I want to go again.

    You know, greed is real.

    I'm committing the sin of greed.

    Yes, me as well.

    Honestly, you know what?

    I'm going to do some research.

    Like, who's playing at PNC?

    Jones Beach.

    Yeah.

    Like, all those outdoor amphitheaters.

    It should be the summer of concerts.

    For sure.

    That's a really good point.

    I'll look into that.

    The only thing is, like, it's just so annoying because, like, Rascal Flat's like is no longer together.

    I know, I know.

    But Gary's on tour.

    And he does sing Rascal Flats song.

    It's not the same.

    No, it's not the same, of course.

    Yeah, but I'm going to look at it.

    Okay, thanks, Counts.

    You're welcome.

    Not to give you like jobs or anything.

    It's fine.

    And then I'm going to look at it and do all the planning, and then I'm just going to need her to be like, yes or no, and she's not going to answer me for two weeks.

    Yeah, no, I won't.

    All right, that's our show, you guys.

    Tomorrow we are audio only with Jax, and that'll be available.

    audio only.

    So Counts, thank you so much for giving up your early morning for us.

    We deeply appreciate you and your cool lots.

    Thank you.

    I deeply appreciate

    code Margo X Banks.

    Thank you guys so much for listening to the Toast of Monday morning show where we delivered the fast fast story in YouTube every Monday Friday on YouTube.

    Watch us at YouTube.

    Please give me a subscribe, give this video a thumbs up, we're also available.

    Podcasts and more podcasts can be found on Spotify, Tune, Stitcher, Public Radio, Y, everybody gets box all plays about this podcast, fastest, toasting fast story about a people standing and wickedly talented we are.

    Hope you guys have an incredible day.

    Yeah, like just make it the best day.

    Do you know, grind, hustle, like, make it the best day of your life, bro.

    You know, don't forget to like, you know, hustle all day, bro, and like, you know, eat some meat.

    Love you.

    Bye.

    Bye.