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Good morning, millennials, and welcome back to the toast.

Happy Tuesday.

That feels like a Monday.

So like it feels like a little dreadful, but like it's really not.

When you stop to think about it, it's not so dreadful.

When you stop to think about it, we're like 30% through the work week.

Through the work week.

Through the work week.

I think we're 20%.

Well, I guess 10% from today already.

Right.

30%.

Wow.

Look at that, Turdy.

I crunched the numbers, and they're not looking half bad.

They're not so bad.

It's been a minute since we've been here.

I hope everyone had an amazing weekend.

We did fun, friends, family, eras,

and that's really all you can ask for from a weekend.

Fun, friend, family, era.

It's so true.

We were all in the city this weekend because of eras.

Because Taylore did.

Taylor, like, did kind of ruin any potential Memorial Day weekend plans.

And like, I wasn't, I'm not going to lie, like in the beginning, like, I was feeling a little bitter.

You know, I can't take a trip.

Right.

But I actually ended up love loving being home for the long weekend.

The city was kind of empty.

And it just felt, I kept thinking, it was still like pretty, it wasn't totally empty.

Like some weekends, holiday weekends, it's for like abandoned.

Yeah.

But it was like pretty,

pretty fine.

And I was thinking, like, I wish the city was always like this, you know, just like a normal amount of people on the street.

Not you wish for happiness like this forever?

Literally.

That's how I felt Friday night at Eras.

Like I really wished for happiness like this forever.

Well, I want to hear Grady Showman.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I want to hear all about eras.

Eras.

Well, I was always planning on going Saturday night.

Like I had tickets with a, well, I didn't have tickets.

A brand offered me, Margo, and Ben seats in their suite.

So like, I always knew I was going.

And I was going to try and get tickets the other nights, but like I was pretty content.

I have been already in Nashville.

I was pretty content just going Saturday.

And the Friday day, you and I were just like hanging out with Rold and the fam.

And I was checking on tickets.

Snitch and Snitch were on ticket patrol.

We were just checking.

And then we left your house at like four o'clock, maybe 3.30.

And you guys, like you and mom were like really encouraging that we go.

And I was like, all right, I mean, like, if you guys are saying it, like, maybe we should.

i think sometimes you know i we get a little fanatical me and margo with our obsessions and like you guys always reel us back in but you are encouraging it so i was like oh if jax is saying and mom is saying like i should definitely go so i'm walking home from your apart from your apartment refreshing stub hub and at like 4 30 i'm like margo like just get dressed like we're gonna go we are gonna go and as i'm doing my makeup these tickets pop up on stub hub we had been watching them drop slowly and at first like many months ago we wanted to sit on the floor but a lot of the footage that i've seen from the show is like, if you're on the floor and you're not in the first three rows, like you really can't see anything.

And even if you're in the first three rows, the stage is so big.

She spends like 10% of the time in front of you and then the other 90% away.

So I'm like, I think maybe the hack here is lower bowl.

And we really wanted first row, lower bowl tickets, but my God, the guy on Stubb Public would not drop the tickets.

He had so many tickets in the first row for like six grand.

I'm like, oh, this guy is nuts.

So we bought a few rows back.

They were definitely like double face value, but we thought we got a good deal because he had eventually dropped them.

We bought the tickets at 4.30 as we were getting dressed.

So we ran, we got dressed.

We literally didn't look like special or amazing.

We just like looked normal, but whatever.

And we got to the stadium at like 6.30.

We took an Uber.

Like it wasn't really crazy planned.

And we got there.

The whole first row was empty.

The guy never sold the tickets.

We were so mad.

And we asked the security guy.

Did you take those seats?

We asked a security guard, like, could we sit there?

And he was like, no.

Okay.

And why'd you ask?

It was actually a conversation between me and Margo.

Like, do we ask or not ask?

And I think it's, you know, Margo wanted to ask.

I wanted to not ask.

Margo ended up asking, and he said no, and I was like, damn, we shouldn't have asked.

And then five minutes later, he was like, go.

I think he saw us having like the best time.

We literally had the whole first row to ourselves.

It was so stupid that no one.

I didn't know that.

It was so stupid that no one was sitting there.

Yeah.

That was it for asking.

Exactly.

Yeah.

And then I didn't know that he eventually let you sit there.

Yeah.

And this was literally in like the second era.

So we were literally there the whole show.

And then I was like, you know what?

I'm glad we we asked because he thought, you know, respected us as being rule followers, respecting his authority.

And then he ended up getting our seats to this little girl.

So she got an upgrade.

We got an upgrade.

It was all good and fun.

He really should have given like the front row seats to the little girl because she was so short, but whatever.

I'm not complaining.

We the whole first row.

We were like running and dancing.

And oh my God, did we have the time of our lives?

Like it was.

The best Eras tour I've been to.

One, because it was clearly like a special night.

We got a lot of surprises.

Of course, we got ice spice.

We got amazing special songs.

We got getaway car and maroon she also then you know brought out all of her dancers they all sat down on the stage and she's like i'm gonna premiere my new music video for you it's out at midnight but we're all gonna watch it together so it was like a special night you know and it was it was really just amazing like being there with counts like just it was i really can't put it into words it was the best concert I've ever been to, the best eras tour I've ever been to.

And then it took a lot of pressure off the next night because we were in a suite and like technically it was like a work event.

So we couldn't like be animals.

So we were still, you know, vibing, but we weren't being like, we got it all out of our systems on Friday night.

So I feel like I hacked it perfectly.

We were even thinking of going Sunday, but at that point, I was like, you know what?

Let someone else go.

We've seen enough.

And I was beat.

Like I was not okay.

Like three hours.

It was basically a three-hour workout jumping dancing.

I didn't sit.

I sat in between eras while she was doing her alpha changes and there was like music playing.

I needed, you know, the break, but I was up and at him, George McFadden, for the rest.

Yeah.

It was incredible.

And then on the second night, we were able to get merch and I got the CD with the new song.

Even though, like, even though you trashed it on the show last week, the idea of it.

I have it as like a novelty.

I'm never going to listen to the song.

I don't have a CD player or a car or like a computer with a CD-ROM.

So.

But, like, maybe one day you could sell it to a fellow Swifty.

Yeah.

That's.

That's definitely what I'm thinking, you know.

Yeah.

Keeping it in good condition.

I was cracking up when you and Margaret were like posting the CD after everything you said last week on the show about the idea of the CD.

No, one thing about me, like, I'm, like, I'm going to make fun of something and like still do it, you know?

Yeah.

Because that's just me.

And And you got merch.

I got merch.

I got you, we got you merch.

Yeah, I got a t-shirt.

I got a quarter zip, which feels appropriate if you've seen my comedy show.

So true.

And it was just a fabulous weekend.

And then also, like, I was able to, like, sing my heart out Friday and Saturday night.

And then literally.

all day Friday and Sunday, I was with you enrolled.

Like, what more could you ask for in a balanced weekend?

It was such a balanced weekend.

We had so much fun.

I mean, I didn't have the Aeros portion, but it was really fun to be in the city.

It was gorgeous weather this weekend.

You couldn't ask for better.

And we just got to spend a lot of time outside.

Harry was having a blast.

We went out to brunch by the water.

We went to the park.

We were parked girly swirly.

We were parked girly swirly.

It was really fabulous, like enriching, balanced, revitalizing weekend.

Wholesome weekend.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I wouldn't have done it any other way, Jax.

Yeah.

Well, I'm glad that it all worked out for you.

And now that's it.

That's a wrap-on-eras tour turdies version.

We'll see.

Where else would you go?

I don't know.

It's Berke.

No.

It's close.

You would really go?

Yeah, I would go.

But you didn't go to night three.

I didn't.

Next

backyard.

Yeah, no, I didn't.

Are you really considering it?

Yeah, like.

I support whatever you do.

If I have a free weekend and there's like a good destination, why not?

Okay.

You know?

And so let's talk about all in all the secret songs that you've secured for yourself.

Because in Nashville, it was Out of the Woods and 15.

Which was

amazing.

Like, they weren't even on my list, and I couldn't have asked for two better songs.

And I really thought like i got i got special treatment you know then night one you had getaway car at maroon maroon uh when she and she brought jack antonoff out like friday was like a special night she treated it differently i'm so glad i went and then the saturday night was holy ground holy ground and then false god which was okay false god like those

the first of the three out of the woods 15 and holy ground no out of the woods getaway car getaway car and holy ground like would have been on my top yeah even maybe five five.

Let me tell you something though.

Like I'm going to have a bone to pick with Miss Taylor.

She obviously kept choosing songs that had the word New York in it.

Holy Ground is like all about the city.

False God staring out the window like I'm not your favorite town.

Maroon it says New York.

It's like all about New York.

When I tell you at the concert, she's like, hey, Jersey.

She kept, she never called us New York.

And then she's saying, welcome to New York on the third night.

She kept calling us Jersey.

And like, me and Margaret were liking each other.

It was like, stop.

It's a problem.

I know.

It's a problem that the New York Stadium is in New Jersey.

But the New York Giants play there.

The New York Jets play there.

Like when a big artist comes to town, they play there.

And then, like, their Instagram caption is like, East Rutherford, you were amazing.

And it's like, question mark.

Who?

Question mark.

Who's East Rutherford?

I don't know her.

So I was, well, I appreciated the thought she put into the secret songs.

Like, stop calling us New Jersey.

But she's in New Jersey.

But if people would be there, but it's a stadium for New Yorkers, too.

I know, but if she got up there and said, like, hey, New York, people, she would be like trolled for not knowing where she is.

No, and it's factually inaccurate.

Like, there's no winning.

I just wish wish she said, hey,

I'm sure it's frustrating for her too.

Why is there not like a state?

What's the stadium?

There's so many arenas in New York, but is there not a stadium?

No.

I guess that's why the New York Giants and the New York Jets.

Maybe like where the Buffalo Bills play.

Right.

I guess she would say New York.

And that would feel wrong, too.

Then she could finally say New York.

It was weird.

But so there was thought put into the secret songs.

There always is.

Yeah, but she ref, sometimes it's just like a song that feels good.

But she referenced in maybe like like four out of six of the Secret Songs this weekend, New York.

Then the third night was the much dreaded Welcome to New York.

Everyone was like, I'm not going the first night because she's obviously going to play Welcome to New York and I don't want to hear that.

I just have to say, like, while I wouldn't have chosen it, Welcome to New York is a banger.

No, it sounds,

I feel like people who actually are not Taylor Swift fans like it more than Taylor Swift fans.

Yeah, because it's like,

I don't know, it's from that movie.

Yeah, the Dakota Johnson, How to Be Single.

Yeah, and it was like part of the New York tourism commercial.

So it's just like

yeah, it's for the not fans.

Oh, okay.

But I feel like if, and it's not even close to a song that I even like love, I could tolerate it.

I feel like if you're in New York and she's here and she sings it and it's like a one-time only thing, like it probably is a nice moment.

But we're in New Jersey.

Makes you think.

Yeah.

Welcome to New Jersey.

I missed it.

I'm okay with it.

She also then did Sing Clean, which is the first time she's repeated a song now.

And of all the songs to repeat, like, that's a really good one.

I definitely,

I was having FOMO from that.

Oh, were you?

Yeah.

You were having FOMO from one song.

Yeah.

Not enough to like, you know, get tickets and go, but it was a tough loss for the community.

I just think you're not seeing what's directly in front of you, which is the amazing songs I got.

Unreal songs.

No, I have literally.

And you had Maroon because she knew that the songwriter that inspired the song was in the song.

In the crowd, yeah.

Because a lot of people do say that my recent banger, 100%,

sounds a lot like maroon and let's keep in mind 100 came out a full year before maroon and that's the thing about taylor she's inspired by others she said it herself so i'm honored to be a part of the creative process yeah they do sound similar and we're not being crazy other people have said it too wait we have spoken for so long without talking about why today's episode is so special

because

our interview yeah oh I thought you forgot.

No, no, no, I just, there's so many things that make any given episode special.

So true.

Just like an Aeros tour.

Yeah, I thought, I didn't know if it was this or that or like maybe something I did.

I forgot.

Like, no, no.

So if you're listening as a podcast or watching as a video, it's at the end of today's episode.

We have a 30-minute interview with Brooke Eby, who is kind of the trifecta, if you will.

She's a toaster.

She's an advocate.

And she's a TikToker.

So last week I got tagged in this video like a thousand times.

I'm like, oh my God, I'm blowing up.

What's going on?

And not to make everything about me.

And everyone was tagging me in this video of this beautiful young girl named Brooke Eby who makes videos about her terminal ALS diagnosis.

And somebody had asked her if she had any sort of bucket list.

Wish list.

Yeah, like things she wanted to do.

And she had a bunch of different things.

Taylor Swift was on there and The Toast was on there.

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Going on an episode of The Toast was like one of her major life goals.

So we did it.

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And it's at the end of today's episode.

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You know, things like that.

And then she fulfills her toast fantasies by giving us like a fast five hot take conversation about Kardashians, about Scandival, about succession.

She was really funny and she was really cute and pretty.

And it was just a really fun episode.

So it was.

And she was so toasty.

It was like, it was so fun to talk to someone who like knows what we're about to say.

Knows the lingo.

Knows the lingo.

She was again to lingo before we were.

Yeah.

It was great.

So that's at the end of today's episode.

And it's really, I think, one of my favorite interviews ever.

Yeah.

Also, at the after the past five shall be succession recap oh yeah because claudia and i both watched the finale and boy am i glad i did it was amazing yeah yeah there's a lot it was so vindicating fulfilling for those of us who hate those kids yeah and i couldn't have dreamed up a better ending for the show that hurt more people

It was beautiful.

Yeah, it was.

But it was interesting.

You know what?

I'll get into it because I do also have some mixed thoughts.

Hmm.

Yeah.

But remember when the season premiered and we said, who do you think

will succeed?

Like, who will take over?

Who did we say?

I forget who you said, but it was also not like, who do you think, but who do you want?

Yeah.

And I said Mattson.

I think.

You're not wrong.

And I wasn't wrong.

Yeah.

Must be nice.

I wonder who you said.

Probably something so dumb, like Marsha or something.

Like,

one thing about me, like, I do not understand succession.

Like, the business stuff, like, I always have to go on Twitter afterwards and like see if I missed anything because so much of it goes over my head So but then you go on Twitter and you see people who are seriously mentally ill yeah

Crying over what they've seen

Kendall just deserves more like it was Kendall design

Kendall deserves nothing.

He's literally a murderer.

Yep.

Literally one of the worst human beings on the face of the planet terrible businessman terrible father terrible husband Everything at its core terrible son at his core and why Logan like never handed over the business like he was the only one who was qualified, but he didn't have it.

He was like kind of dumb like always making you knew if kendall said to do this the right answer was it was that yeah he was just he didn't have the brains for it so really none of them were deserving equipped or qualified or qualified so the best man won in my opinion yeah the man who's always been there for the company always been there for logan no and the man who will admit like is really just a pawn he's like mad said was like i need you like i want to put my finger up your ass and you're going to be my puppet and he's more he's not scrupled he'll say this say that just he's perfect for that world.

Yeah.

So the right man won, in my opinion.

Agreed.

Okay, we'll talk about that.

We'll talk about it at the end, even though we just talked about it.

So let's dive in.

Let's dive in.

Any other Eras turdies version thoughts?

We're going to talk more Eras in the Fast Five.

Right, there's a bunch of story.

Well, the first story.

So if I forgot anything, I'll get to it.

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Okay, our first story.

Taylor Swift took the Aris tour to MetLife Stadium.

There was Ice Spice.

There was Jack Antonoff.

There was Aaron Rodgers.

Miles Teller.

Kelly Teller.

Paul Rudd.

Sean and Camilla Mendez.

There were so many.

When I was there, I saw...

Marishka Hargate.

Whoa.

I got a great picture.

David Herman.

I didn't see him.

Just Marishk.

Marishka Hargette.

Molly Ringwald.

I thought they were just being, you know.

Were they all in the tent?

Yes.

Well, something interesting that happened was in our section was Kate Upton.

We were like, why isn't Kate Upton in the tent?

And then Marishka was like staring at our section.

Our section was right behind the celebrity tent.

So we saw everything.

And she's talking to security guard.

She's on the phone and she's looking up.

And then Kate Upton disappears and never comes back.

So I want to believe that Marishka was coordinating Kate's arrival to the tent because Marishka is like an OG Taylor fan.

I feel like she has pull in the tent.

Yeah, but what's the relationship between Kate and Marishka?

I don't know.

I just feel like celebrities know each other.

And, you know, now Kate Upton is like a New York elite because her husband plays for the Mets.

And Marischka is literally the New York elite.

Yeah, I think that's how it went down.

Kate Upton.

Gorgeous.

Like, just

love her.

Was she with her daughter?

No.

No.

No.

She went to Eras without her daughter.

Eras.

Did she went just by herself?

I don't remember.

I don't remember.

I wasn't looking at the people around her.

I was literally just looking at her.

Fair.

So Molly Ringwald, the night that we went, Hoda, Molly Ringwald, Lynn-Manuel Miranda, Marishka, Kate Upton.

There were a lot of things.

The next night that you went.

Yeah.

Nikki Hilton was there with her daughters, but they weren't in the tent.

They were in the tent.

I think they were in a suite.

Yeah.

And then

the next night, Paul Rudd,

Aaron Rodgers, Miles Taylor, that whole crew.

Camilla and Sean.

Oh, Marin Morris went.

A lot of other people.

It was like really star-studded.

I feel like they had to make the tent bigger.

Yeah.

Like,

usually it's like two or three, but there were like tons of A-listers.

I mean, I don't know how big they're going to have to make the tent in L.A.

There's five shows.

There's five shows.

And the tent was interesting because her family has their own tent.

They're not in the celebrity tent.

I don't know if that's always been that way, but now there's two tents.

Wow.

Like family and then friends and celebrities.

And Julia Gardner was there for the night.

Yes, yes, yes.

Anna Del V.

Anna Del V was there.

So good to see her out doing well.

Yeah.

It was popping, popping like honestly the hottest ticket in town.

Yeah, it really was.

And it's just crazy all those people like forsook Memorial Day plans to be with Taylor.

Right.

Unless they like, you know, just flew in from the Hamptons.

I actually did see, which was cool, when we were pulling up, there was like a helicopter landing, and there was one landing like on the pad.

So we were like trying to see who it was, but they literally just were ushered literally from the helicopter to an SUV, into a tunnel, like into the stadium.

So I was thinking maybe it was Taylor.

Like it was elite treatment.

That's crazy.

Yeah.

So Ice Spice Performed the Three Nights Karma because also all the songs dropped.

So right, Hits Different, the new vault track, You're Losing Me,

and then the Ice Spice Karma and the Lana Del Rey.

Yeah, which has more Lana.

Yeah.

It's hard for me when I'm listening to like realize that there's a difference.

You know what I mean?

I like the old version.

I'm fine with it.

What's with the new tracks?

Like, what's the...

hidden meanings?

What are we learning?

I haven't listened to You're Losing Me yet.

I just honestly didn't find the time this weekend.

And I've been so, I listened on repeat literally this morning.

It hits different is probably one of my favorite Taylor songs ever.

Like it is so good.

Oh, wow.

I did a story this morning, like asking people, what do you want in the fast five?

And like a couple people wrote like, you're losing me.

And I was like, that's fucking rude.

Like, what did I do?

Like,

you guys hurt Jacks this morning.

No, but then I realized.

The song, the song.

Because someone said, you're losing me, Taylors.

And so I was like, oh, okay.

So that's all there is to say about

that.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

No, there, people are, like, dissecting the bridge.

And who would want to, I wouldn't want to marry me either.

A pathological people, pleaser.

Now everyone's looking at midnights as a breakup album.

When at first it didn't occur to anyone.

Because she was with Joe.

Because she was with Joe.

But it's most likely that she was writing these songs during the end of their relationship and when things started to go awry.

And now you're looking at it with a new lens.

I don't know.

I don't think maybe like one or two of them, but I don't think you can like say that about the whole album.

Because one, didn't she say early on, like, these are the songs about things

that keep you up at midnight?

yeah these are different nights throughout my life of things that like keep you up so i think it's like that's a good point more history there and two like she just writes about random at this point like the great war is apparently about lady mary and cousin matthew no fucking way i didn't hear that how would i have heard that about you it totally is

i'm obsessed

yeah she's she now and she has said like ever since folklore and evermore like we really don't need to like dissect the lyrics as much as we do because she'll write it up based off of a movie she watched or a book that she read or something her friend is going through.

Like a lot of the songs on, not a lot, but like two on folklore and Evermore are about Abigail's divorce.

So it's not about Taylor per se.

So we don't really need to look at it through that lens anymore.

You know what I was thinking about this weekend, which was funny.

It's like how we speculate, like, which song is about like Taylor losing her virginity and when?

And it's like, but we all know when Abigail did.

We all know when Abigail did.

Because back then she swore she was going to marry him someday, you know?

Yeah.

And Abigail was so brave for that.

Like, yeah.

I mean, I'm sure she didn't think like her friend who was playing her guitar at the time was going to literally become the biggest star in the world.

And

one of her biggest songs was going to be the song about Abigail losing her virginity.

I'm sure she just said.

Super boy who changed his mind and we both cried.

Right.

Like, I'm sure she just thought she would put it on YouTube and that would be the end of it.

Right.

No, she's going to perform at night too in Nashville era's tour to like 70,000 people.

Yeah.

But it's okay.

I think it's okay.

I think Abigail has healed, you know?

Wasn't there a rumor at one point that there was a rift between them?

I didn't hear that.

Oh, okay.

Abigail's like the one thing.

What was Abigail's divorce then?

Yeah, so Abigail has like a kind of like a crazy like thing going on.

I think like there was infidelity and now she's like with the guy.

I don't know.

What song is reportedly about Abigail's divorce?

Tolerate it.

Okay.

And happiness.

Got it.

Two of the worst songs, in my opinion.

Also, I think it's like nice that Taylor could like write a really

intimate like song.

No, and then if she doesn't want to like expose herself as like, this is about me, there's this mystery of like, it could be about anything.

No, but there's also like the,

I think a part of Taylor probably worries, like, you know, if everything settles down in her life, like, what will she write about?

And like, the fact that she, some of, I would say, her best work, Folklore and Evermore, actually, like, really not about her,

is great.

Like, she doesn't have to keep living and like breaking up and making up.

Like, she can settle.

She's constantly inspired.

Right.

And it's cool to be inspired by books.

And she's.

She's inspired by those writers' lakes.

The lakes.

She was definitely inspired by Evelyn Hugo when she wrote Champagne Problems.

You truly cannot cannot convince me otherwise.

Yeah.

You love to see it.

Yeah.

And Evelyn Hugo was definitely inspired by her.

Taylor Janconzreen has said, it's like, it's not not.

Like, you know?

Well, I think that book and other books like it are like a composite character

character of a lot of different characters.

Yeah.

Composite characters of different characters.

Composite characters of composited characters who are composites of other people.

And they're composited together in a way that...

It's really like a composition.

Composition, don't you think?

A composition of one character.

Right.

Who's an accumulation of multiple characters in that composite?

Exactly.

Well,

congrats on a great weekend, Taylor.

I am going to get Dressin' Saylor this week.

You are?

Where is she going next?

Chicago.

She's definitely going to be in New York until she has to go to Chicago.

Okay.

And, oh, we didn't talk about Aaron Rodgers, who's a big Swifty.

We had been knowing this because we were literally obsessed with that video Kelly Taylor posted of her, Aaron Rodgers, Shaylene Woodley, and Miles all vibing out to the one in Hawaii.

Like, literally, Taylor said it best, like, everybody, time flies,

but I'm right where you left me.

I'm right where you left me at that video.

Like, I have not moved on from that video.

No, and Aaron Rodgers is a folklore girly.

Yes, he's definitely

a folklore era.

Yeah, and so a lot of people were filming him during the show when the Evermore.

Because he was living his best life.

He was having fun.

I think he has like a kind of like a reputation for being like a little bit of like a

like a sour puss, you know?

Okay.

So it was nice to see him like living his best life.

And you know what?

Like, this is kind of, in my opinion, gonna be the renaissance of Aaron Rodgers, like in terms of celebrity, because he's now like, you know, the number one guy in New York.

Yeah.

He's gonna bring this defunct franchise, hopefully, into a new era.

And I think a lot of people are putting like a lot of pressure on him.

And I think he's gonna, I think he's gonna show up for us.

You think he's gonna rise to the occasion?

I do.

I won't lie.

I did miss Shaylene in those videos.

Her absence was felt by me.

I would have loved to see her like running around barefoot in the tent.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That was tough.

Yeah.

But I'm glad that the crew is still crewing.

Yeah.

The tellers and the Rogers.

Yeah.

Okay.

Ready for our next story, which is

if I could tell Rules and come back to life as one person, like it might be Kelly Teller.

Yeah.

For so many reasons.

But her association to Taylor is definitely up there.

Oh, yeah.

But that's not even like number top three.

No, she's literally gorgeous.

She's married to Miles Teller.

She has like such a cool family.

Like they're all like always hanging out and like being best friends and they're all sisters and the husbands are.

What's that like?

Yeah, no, no.

It's like it's giving us, but like better and like non-Jewish, you know?

Like they're literally like giving non-Jewish ashray energy.

And they have like kids and they're like always going on vacation.

Like it's just really, it looks nice.

Yeah.

What's the Taylor adjacent story?

Matty Healy.

Oh, what now?

He's gave an interview to the New Yorker and he's dismissing deluded podcast controversy.

She

amid the Taylor romance rumors.

So three months after Maddie Healy recorded a controversial Adam Friedland show podcast episodes, he wants haters to shake it off.

In the 1975 frontman told a New Yorker in an interview published Monday that his February comments don't actually matter and were a little bit bait for naysayers.

He said, quote, nobody is sitting there at night slumped at their computer and their boyfriend comes over and goes, what's wrong, darling?

And they go, it's just this thing with Maddie Healy.

He said, that doesn't happen.

And then when he subsequently acknowledged that maybe it does happen, he called those affected people deluded individuals.

He said, you're either lying that you are hurt or you're a bit mental for being hurt.

It's just people going, oh, there's a bad thing over there.

Let me get as close to it as possible so you can see how good I am.

And I kind of want them to do that because they're demonstrating something so base level.

Well, it's a very brave hot take on like internet culture and kind of stan culture too.

Cause like when someone you like or idolize, you know, maybe makes a decision or does something that you don't wholeheartedly agree with, people love to be like, this really hurts.

And I think we need to be really careful about language because you're not hurt.

You're living your life and really this has not affected you whatsoever.

So I think what he's saying, and I actually really agree with, is like the way stand culture like manipulates language and also like blows things out of proportion all the time, it really needs to be spoken about, like more, more so than anything.

Yeah, I think it's a really fresh take.

Yeah, it's a hot take.

I appreciate it and I don't think he's wrong.

Like it really doesn't affect people's day-to-day.

And And if it does, like, and maybe it does, that's a you problem.

No, and that's really like a psychological issue that that person needs to work on.

Because if you're letting the words, and by the way, what's so interesting, and I've really and in this case, it's not even the words of like your favorite 1975 front man, it's the words of your favorite girl's boyfriend.

Right.

It's really like so disconnected and it's so far removed, but the way people really like

enrap themselves in celebrities is really toxic.

And this is like the perfect example of that.

Like you should not be personally offended by what someone who you've never met has done or said.

You know, it's not, it's not healthy.

No.

No, but it's also just like offense culture.

Well, of course.

And that's what he's saying.

It's like, it's not about people actually being offended.

It's like them having something to say against you.

And just like being so excited to have like the moral high ground.

I also think sometimes when things like this happen, it's not always just the stands who are like grabbing their pictures.

It's just anybody who wants to feel like morally superior, being like, you did a bad thing.

Right, right.

And I don't know, just like for me, even if it like the person who I love most in this world like in terms of celebrity and idol is really Taylor and if she did something that like or said said said something that like I really disagree with like

sure

would I care yes would I literally move on with my life and like would my life be affected no Has she never said anything that you disagree with up until this point?

Of course she has, but

it doesn't even register.

Yeah, because you just move on.

Right.

And you could still love somebody.

Like this whole concept that like you can only be a fan of somebody who agrees with every single principle it literally reminds me when Jay Shetty was on the podcast he was like talking about how it's important to date someone with similar values to you but at the end of the day like your values are like DNA like there even someone even you and I have different are kind of the same values but we're so different because it's so specific to literally who you are and every human experience you've ever had yeah and so to expect that of someone and to project that on someone is so toxic and like no it's never possible

it's impossible I was having this conversation with someone I feel like sometimes you talk about someone and it's like well I don't agree with with everything that they hear.

He does.

I couldn't name one person on this earth who I agree with about every single thing.

Literally, you and I.

Not even

though we agree about 99.999% of things.

No, and that's okay.

And it's like, what happened to celebrate?

What happened to hello?

So it's just

like this qualifier you have to put in front of everything.

Yeah, no, it's like, well, duh, duh.

We're all different people.

We've all experienced different things.

Right.

So people, and then the people who he's talking to in this article, then I saw on TikTok, they were like, I am so upset.

Like, really, people need to touch grass.

They have absolutely got to get off the internet.

Like, some people just can't handle the internet.

And I think that's okay, but they need to acknowledge that.

But they're the most internet of them.

I know.

And they have like power.

They're the most, they're spending the most time online.

Right.

It's like their insane content and backlash requires Matty Healy to do stuff like this, this article.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But I also think he likes like ruffling everyone's feathers

and letting them know that he still doesn't care and they're not getting their apology.

Yeah, no.

He does this thing now at the beginning, not at the beginning, in the the middle of his shows, where he talks in between songs, but he's like about to say something crazy and the music cuts him off.

Like the band comes in.

So he's like, is it anti-temantic to say?

And then the band comes in and it's like, it's funny.

Like it's, it really is like a joke.

And I think people really.

It's so funny.

I saw one of those.

And they do it like every time.

I'm like, taken out of context, I thought it was just one.

It's like, even his band doesn't want him to speak because they know what he says is going to be so terrible.

Right.

But he's clearly like, he's clearly commentating on the state of culture, but some people are too dense and too too in it to even see that.

Like, they're actually being mocked.

Yeah.

But they don't see it.

They're like, look, he can't hold himself back.

People are so not fucking okay.

Like, honestly, this is funny to me.

It is.

It is funny to me.

And

I'm shipping for Taylore.

No, me too.

Obsessed.

Even though he wasn't at any of the concerts this weekend, but I think he had work to do.

Like, you know, he's also

a celebrity.

Yeah.

Are you ready for our next story?

Some more concert news, but not Taylored.

Yes.

Proud mom Beyonce praises her daughter's parents'

performance.

Beyonce paid tribute to daughter Blue Ivy following the 11-year-old surprise cameo during her mom's renaissance tour on Friday.

She said, my beautiful firstborn, I'm so proud and thankful to be your mama.

You bring us so much joy, my sweet angel.

That's so cute.

Blue Ivy came out during Beyoncé's performance of her song, My Power, and she sang along with the, she danced along with the dancers.

I was like, oh, I didn't see her sing.

No, no, sorry.

No, she's a very good dancer.

Yeah.

Like she was keeping up with the professional choreography.

Yeah.

And I think she came out of choreography the next night.

Yeah.

I saw two different videos of her dancing.

This is the kind of nepotism I absolutely love to see.

Totally.

Like, obsessed.

And it's just like fun for the fans.

Yeah.

And she, like, if you're, you know, zoomed out on the show, like, it's just another dancer.

Like, she's keeping up.

She's not a detriment.

Right, right.

I think it's awesome.

And it's such a cool opportunity, especially if she loves to dance.

Like, why not dance on the biggest stage in the world?

Right.

What if I just

called up mom and went on the Renaissance tour?

So cool.

She looked great.

She kept up.

She's a very, very skilled dancer.

And Beyonce's dancers, I mean, all dancers on like big tours do the most, but like Beyonce's dancers really take it to like another level.

So her being able to heap up, like, I see a future for blue.

Yeah.

Kylie was at Beyoncé's show in Paris.

Yes.

Kylie was.

Kylie was.

stunted on them hose in those Chanel loops.

She was stunting on those Parisian hose.

She was stunting on that cobblestone.

She was having a great weekend in Paris.

I loved the Chanel looks.

Were they all Chanel?

I think so.

I thought some she's like there.

She's like the new face of DNG, also.

Oh, how does Courtney feel about that?

I know, because like I saw on her stories, like there were pictures of her in the display.

Oh, I'm so sorry.

I thought they were all Chanel, but I might just be.

I don't even know.

I'm thinking, where did I hear them?

Dolce.

I didn't hear Chanel.

She was just giving a very classy energy.

Yeah, maybe I assume.

No, I'm not making that up.

Like, I heard it somewhere.

I'm going to Google.

I'm going to Google.

What'd you Google?

Kylie Jenner, Dolce, and Gabbana.

Okay, now Google Kylie Jenner Chanel.

Okay.

I would love that for her.

I mean, they looked so like crisp white Chanel.

Two days ago, she stopped by the Chanel store.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

In a white mini skirt and matching blazer.

But who made that outfit?

That white outfit was like the one.

Yeah.

She looked so adorable.

But she's also like, she's been doing a lot of couture stuff, and she's the new face.

She did.

John paul jpg jpg not the nazi it's very confusing jean-paul gauthier yeah very different than oh her son jean galiano who's very different from jean maljean

she

is wearing a look by maximilian davis oh okay oh you could buy it now how much is it 435 for the skirt on matches fashion okay this is like less than i expected no yeah i thought this yeah was like you know bespoke it's so cute i'll accept these cookies oh and the top top is on sale for $725.

Wow, Kylie wearing a $1,000 look.

Thrifty queen.

Like, I love it.

Arganista.

She's a Maxine Steph.

Yeah, she's balling on a budget.

Balling on a budget.

Tough times over at Kylie Cosmetics.

It's such a cute outfit.

I can't believe it's so accessible.

Like, if it only would fit me right now, I would snatch it up.

Her stories

at the concert looked so fun.

I love when Kylie just like, Kylie doesn't go out.

She has a night out with her friends.

But when she does, she goes big.

She's doing the most.

She's flying to Paris.

She's in the box.

She's taking everyone with her.

They're drinking.

Yeah.

They're making TikTok.

She goes all out.

She's full glam.

It's like a quarterly affair.

No, I feel like it depends on the season of her life, you know.

Yeah, of course.

Because there was a time when it was like a weekly affair, and she really loves more than any of the other girls like partying.

Yeah, she's the youngest.

Like,

I literally forget she's the youngest because she's so mature and like her business and her family, like, she's got it all secured.

But she's literally like 24.

No, she's like 20.

I think she's turning 27.

Really?

Yeah.

Is she older or younger than The Snatcher?

That's a good question.

Age.

Her birthday's in August.

Oh, she's 25 right now and she's turning 26.

So she's Margo's age.

That's literally so young.

Yeah.

She's Margo.

Yeah.

Just like a little cooler.

Just a little.

No, I really mean it.

Just a little.

Margo's really cool.

Margo's really cool.

And you got to spend a lot of time with her this weekend.

I know.

Like, I don't know

if Era's tour on Friday night was so amazing because the show was so amazing or because I got like the most quality, undivided, core memory attention from the snatcher.

Like that was the best part of the night.

What did you guys talk about like in the car on the way there?

That's a good question.

We actually talked about like the whole car ride.

That's so snatcher.

We were like planning logistics, charging our phones.

She's not super chatty in general, but like if you get her in a car, she'll start talking.

No, she won't start.

We should hang out with her in cars more often.

We should get, I've actually been thinking, like, I think it's time for like the first time in my life, like I need to get a car.

And that would be a good time.

And maybe I'll just drive around town and scoop up the snatcher.

I'll be your chauffeur.

That would be good for your relationship with with her.

She'll sit in the back and I'll sit in the front.

And she'll just start talking.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So what'd you guys talk about?

Just like everything.

Do you think like more like era stuff or like life stuff?

Like both.

Interesting.

Try to find me.

I was going to say, I was trying to remember if you came up, but like I don't think you did.

Sorry.

It's okay.

It's better than you coming up and her having something bad to say.

So true.

So just count your blessings.

So true.

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Tom Sandoval was seen talking on the phone with Raquel after breakup news.

Yeah, this picture went viral of him on a plane.

On the phone, contact Raquel Letvin.

Right, he was like on a phone call, and his phone was like kind of turned outward, like towards the person taking the photo.

You think it was intentional?

Well, then I fell down a rabbit hole on TikTok of people being like, you know, he's

doing, you know, PR.

There's like a lot of speculation.

In the last couple of days, like he had broken up with Raquel.

He was was dating this influencer.

Then that influencer deactivated all of her socials.

Actually, Kristen Doty is on the Good Guys podcast this week.

I was watching it this morning.

I have like 10 minutes left.

And she was talking about how, like,

he was speculated to have been dating this girl.

And then, like, the girl is an influencer.

And she literally deactivated all of her social media maybe because she didn't want to be associated with Tom.

And like, an influencer would never.

Because if an influencer was actually dating him, they would be like eating all this up.

Right.

Just a quick shout out to the good guys.

So I don't know what he would be getting out of this if it is like a PR stunt.

It just like looked very, it looked a little, a little staged, but it also looked very, you know, boots on the ground, Tom in the Wild.

I don't think it's staged, but I also like really try to give people the benefit of the doubt.

But I really could imagine like he's hiding his face, and I feel like he thinks that that's all he's concerned about and doesn't realize

that, yeah, because we've never really caught someone like this.

It's not like a known thing.

It's very intimate.

You know what I mean?

Like, I feel like there's a way where he didn't even realize that he was showing people that because he was more so worried about like himself, which is so Tom Sandoval.

Yeah.

I wonder where he was going.

He was on a plane.

I also don't think that they broke up.

Like there's been so many rumors coming out.

Like I don't believe any of them.

Yeah.

I think that they are together and in love.

I don't think she's pregnant, but I would sooner believe that she's pregnant than that they broke up.

He was dating someone else.

They're talking about

like this whole mess.

Yeah, yeah.

I don't think he's dating someone else.

I do, I mean, I honestly hope they're still together, like for both of their sakes, mostly hers.

But I do think she's still in a facility.

She She hasn't been seen or heard from.

So maybe she has her cell phone.

Right.

Maybe it was like their weekly call time.

I don't think she has like, you know, unlimited access to her phone in a place like that.

No, she doesn't because she's writing letters.

Right, the Morgan Ladder.

But I guess their letter said, didn't say, dear

Tom.

Maybe not.

Well, maybe it started out, dear Tom, but it wasn't a breakup letter.

Yeah.

It's like, dear Tom, the food is great and I'm making a lot of friends.

Yeah.

Dear Tom, send socks.

I'm all out.

Like camp.

Yeah.

I used to like hate writing letters at camp.

But you know what?

When they used to have those books of letters that were like kind of like mad libs, where it was like,

my friends are blank.

I'm having a blank time at camp, and you would be like, awesome.

Yeah.

It would make letter writing so easy.

Terrible.

Right.

But now,

when I look back on like letter writing at camp, it's like, so I look back on it so fondly.

Like, I wish I did it more.

It's such a beautiful concept.

And like, you know, at our camp, some, like maybe once a week, you would have to write a letter.

You would have to show up to dinner with a letter just so like they made sure everyone was writing their parents it was nice now i i guess they have like cell phone time at camp which is so crazy to me and like honestly not to sound like a grandma i think camp was so amazing because we were so disconnected like friend from like friends from home like it didn't matter there was no need to like i wasn't writing my friends letters at other camps i was just writing my parents like once throughout the summer i would exchange with like a inter-camp letter but like camp was its own universe and

everyone was in their own camp universe you know yeah it didn't feel feel like you were missing stuff at home but like our parents like paid to like for us to have this amazing time like the least we could do was write them a fucking letter yeah but I found it like so dreadful I'm like a letter I didn't I was like I'm having a great time like please

don't pick me up like I never want to see you guys again like I loved camp so much like literally I didn't want to be connected to the outside world right but I feel like when you know your kids which you know most parents do it's like not getting a letter from quadratic is a good sign is a good sign not getting a letter from most kids is probably a good sign because you know no news is good news right they're having too much fun

they're playing jacks at night they're not writing letters in their bed alone with their flashlight.

Like, that's something I'm really excited about to have kids, like, but I don't know how I'm going to fare.

I'm going to be so jealous of my kids when they go to camp, but I guess that's like when I'll travel and like get my life back.

Yeah.

But knowing that my kids are like making memories, like playing Jax, like getting tan, living like so carefree, maybe having their first boyfriend, like I'll be so jealous.

I'm literally going to show up at camp every day.

I'd be like, hey, girlies, what's up?

I'm literally going to be like the mom that works at camp.

Like I'm going to be the arts and teachers.

411.

I'm going to be the arts and crafts teacher.

Yeah.

Because I love camp so much.

No, you'll have to to create a life for yourself that's

more exciting.

Like maybe you get a lake house and then you're with like fellow like lake couples and you're having your own like adult winners camp.

If I get a lake house, I will be jealous.

All right.

Put that on my list of like, I need like a, oh, I just, never mind.

I have like a 10-year plan.

Lake House is one of them.

Lake House greater than Beach House?

Like, I kind of am into the lakey vibes.

Maybe it's because last night I literally finished Meet Me at the Lake, the Carly Fortune book, and she really knows how to romanticize a lake.

Her books always take place in Toronto, like Lake Muskoka.

Um, and I gotta go.

I started the new book by Maycob, who wrote the Hunting Wife.

That's what I'm gonna read next.

I think you'll like it because it's pretty spicy.

I don't remember Hunting Wives because it was spicy.

There was a lot of like lesbian, like all these like straight, married, like uptight, rich women like fucking each other on the weekends.

Really?

Yeah, there was like a lesbian undercurrent.

It was very sexy.

I don't remember that because I was like, damn, Maycob, and now I'm like, I put this book on my story.

People think I'm reading boards.

Oh, is it like full?

Oh, now you're making me want to read it even more.

No, it was just like more, but so far, like, the plot is finished, but I don't, I have no idea what's coming.

Like, maybe I'm gonna wait for you to finish it.

Like, maybe it's good for my book club.

Oh, I'll let you know, but like, is spice good for the book club?

The book club loves spice.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, we all, we all swap.

It's like, there's something about it.

I feel like, you know, when you're reading something and it's like, this is so stupid.

And then, but by the end, it makes sense why all those stupid things happen.

Like, if someone was intentionally being stupid, right?

So I don't want to judge it until I'm done with it because right now it's like

I could poke a few holes.

Okay.

I could poke a few.

I also read The Housemaid this weekend.

Oh, yeah.

I read all weekend.

I didn't watch TV except for succession.

I read The Housemaid on the sequel.

So good.

Yeah, I read it like really quick on a weekend, both of them.

Both of them I read in one day.

Good, good books.

The second one, I like started at noon and I finished at 10 p.m.

There's, she writes like a lot of good thrillers.

Like, I think she's an author now.

If you pick up her book, like you know, it's good.

Like a Sally Hepworth, you know you're awesome.

She's a good writer.

There are a lot of twists that I didn't see coming.

Yeah.

Frida McFadden.

I would recommend.

Okay, good.

Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

I am.

New couple alert.

Haley Steinfeld has been dating Josh Allen for a few weeks, says a source.

They're having fun.

Yeah, this was interesting.

Josh Allen's like a star.

Yeah, Hailey Steinfeld and Josh Allen have been hanging out for a few weeks.

A source close to the couple told People magazine the cute couple have been photographed together multiple times over the last few days in New York City.

Why wasn't she at

Eras?

She's in the bad boy.

She's a former squad girl.

Yeah.

Did they end on bad terms?

She was like in the squad and then never to be seen again.

Yeah.

But she was really in the squad.

She's kind of like one of the face core members.

There were some Randos.

Yeah, of course.

We only got like the invite once.

Yeah.

But she's core squad.

Yeah.

Anyways, the insider said it's new, but they're having fun.

Was he married?

I don't think so.

I feel like they're always doing packages about him on ESPN.

Like, he's a star.

Always

happening to watch them

no he's 27.

Oh, he's young.

I'm not seeing a marriage here.

Haley Steinfeld like has an amazing dating track record.

Like Niall Horan.

Okay.

Josh Allen.

And that's all I can think of.

And I also like don't fully believe Niall Horn.

Like I feel like that was more like PR convenient.

A little bit.

Oh, I could see that having been.

Haley Steinfeld like is such a good level of celebrity.

I feel like she makes a lot of money.

Like she's very A-list, but she's not like she probably has a a normal life.

Like, she can go to the grocery store, but she can date whoever she wants, you know?

Yeah, no, I really like this for her, if true.

I'm wondering why they weren't at Eras.

Maybe they'll be at the one at the Buffalo Bill City.

There isn't one, maybe Pittsburgh.

I don't know if Pittsburgh is close to Buffalo, but I feel like it is.

I don't think it is.

I think it is.

Philly's south of here, and Buffalo is north of here.

Such a good point, yeah.

Well, actually, Pennsylvania is west of here,

oh, but still,

Buffalo's north.

I'm just gonna put this rumor to rest and figure it out right now, ready?

I guess we'll just look at a map.

Pittsburgh

to Buffalo.

I'm just pulling up Google Maps.

Like, one thing about me, I don't know geography, and I never will.

It just really depends for me.

Oh, Pittsburgh.

It's so west.

Where's Buffalo?

Okay, they're like not far from each other, but they're not.

I'm just like not seeing Buffalo.

By the way, they're actually like, by the way, what's so crazy is like Pennsylvania and Buffalo.

And Pittsburgh and Buffalo are so far from here.

Like you think it's all like northeast.

It's so far.

No, Pittsburgh is like on the western border of Pennsylvania.

And Buffalo is literally in Canada.

Yeah.

When I did a show in like Buffalo, Rochester area, people were like driving from Toronto.

Oh, actually, I'm sorry.

Buffalo would be closer to Pittsburgh.

It's kind of a triangle, but the Buffalo side is closer to Pittsburgh.

Much.

It's not due north.

It's northwest of Pittsburgh.

Due north.

Everything I know about geography, which is extremely limited, I only know because of tour.

Like, I know nothing about geography from school.

That was, like, not even a class I took.

It depends on the location.

You know, I like to pride myself on being an arbiter of New York geography because I went to school upstate, but I don't know where the fuck Buffalo is.

No, but there are parts of New York and parts of Pennsylvania that are so far away, it's crazy.

Yeah.

That I knew.

Yeah, like Syracuse.

Utica, yeah, I know these people.

That's upstate, like classic.

Classic.

Where all the colleges are.

Yeah.

But also classic is like Hudson Valley upstate.

Yeah.

That's like fuck upstate because it's like an hour.

Yeah.

What was the story?

Oh, yeah.

Josh Allen and Haley Steinfeld.

Here for it.

Josh Allen, like, I know nothing about football.

I don't even, I think, I think he plays for Buffalo.

Like, I really know nothing beyond that.

He said pride and joy of Buffalo, and they're really passionate fans.

But he, what I know about him is he had old tweets, and he went from like the number one draft pick to like number 90 and had like all this promise.

And I relate to him because like, you know, things from our past past should not come back to haunt you.

And I really felt bad for him in that moment.

And he got it together.

Now he has like a great contract, but like he was like number one kid, you know, from that year.

And he had like some song lyrics, you know, with inappropriate words.

And his life was over.

And I honestly feel like you've told that story before, but I genuinely forgot.

And it's so crazy.

It's all I think about, but because he's obviously accomplished a lot since then.

I feel like every time I walk past the TV when Zach's watching sports, it's a package about Josh Allen and how he gives back to his community.

Does he?

Yeah, like he's really the beacon of, they love him.

His community loves him.

But you know, you know who else Buffalo loved?

Who was a beacon of their community?

OJ.

So maybe they don't have a great barometer.

Radar.

Yeah.

Okay, well, way to ruin a beautiful story.

Those are just like, there are a few things I know about football, and one of them is that, like, OJ was like the king of Buffalo.

Was is that really his, like,

he played for a few teams, but yeah, Buffalo was like, was like, that's where his greatest moment was.

That's like LeBron and the Cavaliers.

Exactly.

Or no, like, LeBron and the Heat.

No, the Heat was just like a transient experience, so he could get a ring.

He was taking his talents to South Beach.

Yeah, so he could get a ring, but he's Cleveland.

Like, he's Cleveland.

Yeah, you're right.

You're right.

You're right.

He's Cavaliers.

King Charles.

Should we dive into this section recap before our interview?

We shall.

So last night's, well, two nights ago's episode, the series finale of succession.

Let me tell you how I will not miss the show.

But like, of course, and I've been very hard on it this entire year.

Of course, the final episode was good, as it should be.

Well, no, it ended really good.

And like, now I could say the episode was good, but there were times while I I was watching it where I was like, how much longer is this episode?

Oh, I didn't feel that way.

I thought it was a very good episode of TV.

I need to get to the board meeting, but the fact that the board meeting didn't go, that the kids didn't stick together.

Right, it was like this climax.

Like, you know, the kids are fighting, but then they go to the Caribbean and they work on it together and they all finally agree.

Like, it really can only be Kendall.

And then they're having fun in the kitchen and they're walking in there together and they're strong and they're a team peak.

And then like Roman starts to break a little bit.

And she obviously breaks during the meeting.

And it really was like a roller coaster.

And I enjoyed it.

And it is even better, like having to suffer through them pretending to be like good siblings to each other and like having like a fun kitchen moment and like just like thinking that they're like a cute family and then they're just like not.

They're not.

It was like kind of painful to watch, but I know that like for the fans of like the kids, they probably ate that up.

Yeah.

But then to see it all come crashing down was like really justifying for me.

But it was interesting because for so long, like I was on.

I was on Logan's side when he was alive.

Like his kids were really entitled and they didn't deserve his business and they just wanted it because they thought they should have it, not because they actually earned, deserved, or are good for it.

Right.

And this was his thing that he built as like.

And it was worse than being just like lazy and entitled, they actively worked against him and made the last year of his life as stressful as possible.

So I was on Team Logan.

And then when Logan was out of the picture, I didn't really know where to land.

And I think for a while, like the most tolerable kid was Roman.

Yes.

And over the last season, like, I just found myself not being able to root for him.

And he definitely got, you know, a little ahead of himself.

And with the Jerry thing, like, he he was just fucking weird and like kind of gross.

And all like the gross stuff he used to say.

Like, at first, it was like a part of his personality, but in this last year, it was like, ew, like,

he couldn't root for him.

No, and he was definitely my favorite kid.

I missed the last two episodes where I just saw pieces of them.

So I don't really, he seems to have some sort of breakdown.

But I also will remember to like the first season when he was like, really, I don't know what the word is, but like twisted.

Yeah.

You know, dark.

Dark.

And like, even the first episode, there was like something with the watch and one of the kids, like, he was just like gross.

And, and

I can't think of what the word was.

But then when, so I think of him as CEO, I'm like, you're not the right person either.

Like, you're into like dark stuff.

And you know, they all, they have too much baggage, Kendall and

Roman.

Roman, obviously, Kendall's a murderer.

And Roman.

But also, like, aside from the murder, which is not.

Not a good thing.

Not good to murder.

He literally like brought all that Cruz's stuff to light.

Like he tried so many different ways to destroy the company destroy the company like why would you be at that and so now he cares about keeping it in the family right he does like you tried to take it from your dad so many times to give it to no one like when he was working on his like other projects like the art collective thing like i just i can't and then shiv like she's the only one who doesn't have like this you know skeleton filled closet but she's the least qualified she's never worked at the company she like took on a passion project and like worked in politics for a while but she knows nothing about running a business and she's probably the most entitled out of any of them because she's the least qualified and really was the last one who would give it up to Kendall.

Like, she was the one who took the most convincing.

But what was interesting is, like, by the end, I kind of did find myself being like, well, it should be Kendall.

And, like, when he didn't get it, I was like, oh, like, it was a weird mix of, I hate these kids, none of them are deserving.

But by the end, I'm like, well, it should be Kendall.

Like, I did want them to keep the business in the family because it was what Logan wanted.

But they did keep the business in the family.

Well, by proxy through Shiv.

Through Tom.

Right.

Now,

so Logan was selling to Gojo.

Right.

And he wanted to, and it was the case, he stopped the deal.

That's true, actually.

And he was literally going over there to make the deal happen.

So you could say Logan wanted this, Logan, we wanted that.

I don't, I really don't think that beyond his

lifetime, Logan cared what happened, or else he would have had like a much more stable plan, concrete will, and everything.

Now, the arc of Siobhan,

you know, girl bossing her way to the top without ever like working a real job, only to end up as the wife of the CEO when she started out as the daughter of the CEO like is too rich honestly like the final scene of the car like where she's literally like just taking his hand waiting for him in the car It was really ironic and it was very well done like it was poetic how she just tried to girl boss her way to the top

And you know, she was always the like token woman in the room, but she really had no reason, like she had no

business being there.

Yeah, but like beyond being a woman, like she, that was actually like her only qualification to like, to shake things up.

Right.

Her, like, even at times throughout the seasons when like Logan would kind of turn to her, like she might have been the future of the company is because she's like a woman and she's

could be more

ushering in a new era.

But no, now she's just resigned to being a baby maker.

Right.

No, and so like for that scene, I thought like the most powerful scene was when they got in the car and like Tom, this like dopey fucking moron who actually was the only one who like got up and went to work every day.

You know what?

He actually gets the job.

Like it was so honestly brilliant.

It was brilliant.

I can't believe that it turned out so beautifully.

Like I just assumed it would be an ending that I would hate because I've hated most of the show, but like

Tom is, I mean, everyone likes Tom and Greg the best.

I do think they're that they're the least insufferable.

But also when it comes to like who's doing work, who knows how the business works, who is typing and sitting at a desk, right?

Who's looking at papers and things, not just being like, call, got a flag, right, right, like actually doing a job.

It's tough.

Like he's worked in cruises.

He did ATN.

He's worked for the company for as long as he's known Shiv.

Like he has qualifications.

Maybe he's not the smartest guy in the room or, you know, he's not going to be the person.

They don't need the smartest guy in the room.

They have Matson.

The person is a puppet.

And Shiv, Kendall, and Roman were never going to be what Madsen needs.

And when Madsen said, like, I don't want more ideas.

Right, that's so Tom.

I felt that.

Yeah, no, and that's literally Tom to a T.

Like, he was up Logan's ass, he was up Shiv's ass, like, he would just do what people told him to do.

Like, when Tom is asked a question, he will give both answers, yes and no.

He's like, well, I could do this, but also I could see that.

And I see value in both.

Yeah.

What did you think about like him forgiving Greg in that final moment?

Like they had been through it all and at the very end, like Greg fucked it so bad.

Yeah.

Greg I think that he should forgive Greg cuz like he's gonna need people by his side and who understands better than Tom like needing to throw someone under the bus for your own personal and also like needing to play both like Tom was playing both sides the whole time too like trying to stay in everyone's good graces so I think he'll forgive Greg because it worked out if it hadn't worked out like no.

So what do you think happens to the Roman the Roy kids now?

Well they have a ton of money.

Yeah because they sold because they sold so they are buying Pierce still question mark whatever happened to that what happened to the $10 billion whole episode that we had to to watch?

Right.

But no, I mean, like, are they forgiving each other?

Like, is it irreparable?

I think.

Are Shiv and Kendall going to be like, you know, Logan and his brother?

I don't think it's irreparable because all throughout the seasons, they like hated each other on off, on, off, and then they get forgotten.

They'll never like be actual good siblings to each other or family because they're incapable.

But I just think it's another part of the up and down.

Yeah.

Maybe they'll start the hundred.

And the way that like Roman went so hard only to just give up, like, he didn't even care.

Like, he had, like, like, when he was co-CEO with Kendall, he had like a two-week period where he was a fucking nut job, like, calling the election just because he felt like it, like, really nuts.

And then, right after that, he stopped caring.

Like, he went to the Caribbean, and even at the board, like, he didn't care anymore.

No, even they're trying to have a conversation about which way they're going to vote, and he's walking away.

And it's like, well, you're not, you can't even have a conversation.

How you think you should be CEO?

Right, no, of all of them, it's a tie for Kendall for

Shiv and Roman.

It's a tie three for who's the best choice, and it's a tie of three for who's the worst choice.

No, if there is a choice, it's Kendall.

No, because that doesn't mean he's a good choice.

Kendall did the most harm to the company over the years.

Yeah.

No, and Kendall's just.

And Roman worked for the company.

He worked in LA in the studio.

Yeah, but like, it's not.

So did Kendall, though.

Yeah.

Well, that's that on that.

Goodbye.

Goodbye.

But, like, I just want to say, I loved how it shook up my hand.

Me too.

Me too.

It was really kind of stunning.

And honestly, I think Logan would have liked it too.

I think so, too.

And also, Tom was the only one who never betrayed Logan.

Because he's a puppet.

Yeah.

He's a pawn.

So really, Mattson is in charge.

Yeah.

And the company moves into the future with the eccentric tech CEO.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I guess like Tom is going to wipe out everyone who was like, they never included him.

Like Frank, Carl, Jerry.

He's wiping them all out.

He's the big man now, and he's got like vendettas.

Yeah.

Now he's like, as an actual powerful person.

He's more powerful than all the people who he like sought attention from.

Yeah.

Who never gave it to him.

But I could also see him keeping them on and like just making them grovel.

Oh, yes, because he's also like a little bit like Machiavellian evil.

Yeah.

He likes to do it with Greg.

Yeah.

He's got more power.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And he's going to be a father.

Everything's coming up, Tom.

I'm ready for the Tom sequel.

The Tom spin-off.

Yeah, that's interesting.

Yeah.

And I don't know, maybe it was because he was like finally in charge.

But I was like, yeah, Tom's hot.

Yeah.

Also, obviously Tom and Chiv are not a love match.

And when they were finally like honest with each other on the balcony, like that was really refreshing.

But I also feel like they can make it work.

You know, I ship.

Yeah.

Like, I don't think that.

I mean, I hope to God for her.

Like, that's really all she has.

Yeah.

Well, no, she has like billions of dollars.

Of course, now she'll have a baby.

Right.

She can get into charity work.

And she could also, like, meet someone else.

But I think, like, this life is the wife that she's meant for, you know?

Yeah.

Her husband's a CEO of Roy Star Royko.

Yeah, it's nice.

Okay, it couldn't be me, but.

But I really appreciated her about face.

And then by the end, I got it.

You know, it's like Shibby Kendall, who is

the devil you you know Tom.

Or the devil you don't.

The devil that you like she controls Tom, like can control Tom.

Kendall is like so wild and really like a wild card.

Loose cannon.

She chose Tom over Kendall and if that ain't saying a lot then I don't know what is.

Yeah, you would do it too.

You would do it too.

So that's your succession series finale recap, but don't be upset.

The episode is not over.

Please continue listening for our interview with Brooke Ebie.

She is a delight.

I think you guys will love her.

It's a great, fun-filled episode and interview.

And that's our show.

So without further ado, dot doodoo, I present to you Brooke.

The interview.

The inimitable Brooke Ebie.

The wickedly talented Brooke Ebie.

Goodbye.

Goodbye.

Welcome back to the toast.

We are so excited to be sitting down with an extremely special guest.

We have a toaster.

We have an advocate.

We have a TikToker.

Jealous.

We are sitting down with Brooke Ebie, who is a toaster by in her heart, correct?

In my heart, deep in there.

Okay, God.

Um, but she's also a TikToker who has been documenting her amazing journey with her terminal diagnosis of ALS.

Her TikToks were popping up all over my For You page like a week ago.

And then everyone started tagging me in one of her videos.

She had been asked, you know, is there any sort of list you have, sort of like an ALS bucket list that you would love to do?

And one of the things on her list was to come on the toast.

So I was not okay.

Immediately, you know, had to make everything about myself.

And I reached out and a few days later, here you are.

Hello, Brooke.

Welcome to the toast.

Oh, my gosh.

Thank you so much.

I know I was listening to your show a couple of days ago and I was like, guys, I've manifested this.

I was like, no, everyone tagged Claudia.

Yeah, see, that's the same thing.

That's what manifestation is.

That's what we call it these days.

But thank you so much for having me.

We're so excited to have you.

And we're so flattered that we're such a big part of your life and that this is such an honor.

I know.

It was like an eight-bullet list.

I call it the adult make-a-wish and toast was on there.

That is such an honor for us.

We are so excited to have you.

So I'm sure, you know, a lot of people have seen your TikToks.

It's ALS Awareness Month, so a lot of your posts have been going really viral.

But for some of our, you know, not TikTok-friendly users and listeners.

Even though you are on Reels.

She is.

My Reels fans.

Yeah.

Reels fans are Reels fans.

A hundred percent.

She said it.

She said it.

She said it.

Tell us about your journey, A, you know, your diagnosis, how long it's been going on, and then your decision to document the whole journey on TikTok.

Yeah, absolutely.

So I started having symptoms in 2018.

I actually was listening to the toast throughout my four-year diagnosis period.

So this is a bizarre

coming-of-age moment.

But I started limping in 2018.

Like I work in the corporate world, I was living in New York City, and I just started limping on the way to a conference.

And all my coworkers were like, you should probably get that checked out.

And I did, but they could not find anything for basically a year.

Then I had basically four years of testing

where they could not diagnose me.

They couldn't figure anything out.

And then beginning of last year, I started noticing I was limping on the other side as well, which is when they were able to test me and officially give me an ALS diagnosis, which some people know as Lou Gehrig's disease.

All the baseball people know it as Lou Gehrig's disease.

I know.

I don't look much like him.

So I'm just saying.

No, no, you're beautiful selling and smart.

But yeah, so four years of diagnosis,

really the diagnosis process.

And then once I was diagnosed, it took me like two to three months of straight depression, like sitting in my bed, binge eating M ⁇ Ms.

I listened to your book on tape, like all of these things, all of these things come back to the toast.

But

yeah, I didn't know what to do.

And I was just like, how do I process this?

How do I grieve what I thought, you know, my 30s were going to be, the rest of my life was going to be.

And then I had to go to a wedding where you've probably seen this on TikTok, but I had to use a walker at a wedding with all of my college friends.

Like, can you imagine anything more embarrassing than like waddling your way in in your bridesmaid dress?

But like an hour into it, the bride was limboing under my walker.

I was giving people walker rides all over the dance floor.

Like it just ended up being so fun.

Yeah.

And so I was like, you know what?

I feel like I should start sharing this story with more people because if I'm able to laugh about it, and I think people are so scared to ask questions about anything serious when it comes to like a terminal diagnosis, no one wants to say the wrong thing.

They're afraid of being like inappropriate or, you know, offensive.

But I figured if I could laugh about it and start making videos about it, then maybe we could spread the word a little bit more.

Yeah.

I mean, because when I saw your TikToks, I'm like, oh my God, this girl has such energy.

Like she radiates positivity and you're always smiling.

But I was curious if like, you know, when you first got the diagnosis, there was like a dark period because I think that's a very natural reaction.

It was bleak.

Yeah.

It was a couple months of just like survival.

And I was not in a good place when people would ask me about it.

Like I couldn't talk about it.

So I actually think making videos for like TikTok and Reels of course have both have really made me comfortable talking about it.

And I just feel like we can laugh about it a little bit now, Even though some people write, like, why is she smiling?

And I'm like,

I can't help it.

I don't know.

It's just my face.

You have a beautiful smile.

Oh, thank you so much.

Yeah, I feel like, you know, there's so many, I think people don't want to tap dance

and don't want to say the wrong thing, but I think your attitude is so amazing.

Like, even I, and that's very much my our philosophy.

Like, you got to laugh about things in life because, you know, you'll drive yourself crazy if you don't.

And I'm curious what the reception to your videos like you you go deep you talk and I found I learned so much from your TikToks like you know you said you were working in the corporate world and then you did a whole video on like your job situation so I feel like it's really educational and there is a natural curiosity

yeah I think I mean I've largely been amazed by the reception like I know that the social media world can get to a really dark and mean place.

So the first couple videos, I was so nervous to post.

Like I made my best friend be in the first one because I'm like, you're going down with me if if we get, if we get embarrassed.

But ever since, I get like

pretty much all nice responses.

And a lot of them are, a lot of them are questions too.

Like, people want to know, like, how do you feel about, you know,

like assisted death?

It's like very dark questions, but I want people to feel comfortable asking them.

So it's been really nice.

And I would say, like, 99% are about ALS.

And then, like, 1% is about my hair always.

Or like

you look like blank.

I don't know if you guys get these two, but like you look like blanks are so offensive.

So offensive.

Claudia hates that.

Who do you get?

Yeah, who do you get?

Okay, I'll tell you the nice ones first, and then I'll end on the whopper because it has been haunting me.

I get

who's that singer?

Phoebe Bridges.

I get her.

Okay.

And then I get Ellen Pompeo a lot.

Yes.

I could see that.

I get a couple of Lindsay Lohans, but I think that's just because my hair is reddish.

Yeah.

But the cruelest one, and I have the screenshot still because I'm like, I can never forget this.

It said, you look like pregnant Blake Lively because her lips were thinner.

Oh,

people are not fucking okay.

I'm like, not only is it like, so you look like Blake Lively at her worst, plus minus a really good quality verse.

Right.

So, yeah, that was a dark one.

And I wrote back, like, why did you have to say pregnant?

And she never responded.

Right.

I think you actually look like Megan Fahey from

Yes.

I've gotten that one like twice.

And I've like, I wish TikTok didn't take away the pinning thing because I would have pinned so.

Like, I'll take that all day.

You do.

That's a really good call.

See, it's only okay to tell someone who you think their celebrity doppelganger is if their celebrity doppelganger is like insanely beautiful.

No, but like, I feel like someone could think they're paying you a compliment and then you think actually that person is like less beautiful than you.

So it could go either way, which is why it's like never really a great thing to do.

And my Claudia takes so much umbrage with it.

Yeah.

But I do think it's a fun exercise, usually.

A little game.

Yeah.

I've never heard it before with a preemptive pregnant, though.

Like that has to be a very funny game.

You know, when she's not pregnant, you look nothing like her.

Yeah, no, I don't see it.

So brutal.

So your life is like kind of really changed, obviously because of your diagnosis, but also because of your TikTok.

Like I know you were on the Today Show recently.

Tell me about that.

Oh my gosh, it was crazy.

Like the social media world is so crazy to me because I, I mean, you guys have been doing it for so long.

Like I just started a TikTok last summer and I basically had to YouTube like how to make a TikTok.

Like none of it was new to me or none of it was, you know, common to me.

And so I just started making videos.

hoping for the best.

Some of them would get like no views.

And then if I posted a dating one, like it would go viral.

And so I was like, okay, there's something here.

Like if I can capture people's attention for like 10 seconds,

then maybe they'll start being more interested in learning about ALS.

Cause I don't think many people know what ALS is.

Like the ice bugger challenge is probably about it.

Yeah.

And so I just sort of started going for it.

And like, you think back to when you have like, you know, 40 followers and the videos I was posting.

I'm like, how is I not a little embarrassed?

Like talking into my camera, like, hey, guys.

No.

so yeah the today show reached out to me on on instagram they dm'd me like hey we want to write an article about you and about your diagnosis um and once that article came out the producer of the actual show was like hey we want to have you on our show um and so i went like two weeks ago i was in the city it was the most blur of a morning i've ever had but it was so cool like that's savanna she's something else that's

something else

She is something else.

So who do you have around you during this time?

Like,

what is your village like?

Yeah.

So

I work all day.

What do you do?

I work at Salesforce.

So I'm in tech.

And I'm technically on the clock right now.

So we're just part of my day.

It's a long time.

You guys are my clients.

Yeah.

100%.

And we need help with our Salesforce.

And we're hoping that you can give us those tools.

Exactly.

I'll give you all the tips.

So during your day, I'm from Salesforce.

Literally.

Yeah.

Yeah, no, I keep saying their name and I'm like, should I just say a big tech company?

Because I don't know.

It sounds like I'm being paid by them.

So it's just me and my dog during the day mostly.

And then my family lives like all within the Maryland area.

So my parents are 10 minutes away for half the year.

They're actually in Florida, the other half in Jupiter.

And then my sister's like 40 minutes away.

My boyfriend's like 30 minutes away.

So I've, and I have a bunch of neighbors who have like quickly become my friends because I'll be like, guys, I can't load my wheelchair into my car.

And they'll have to come like you be my muscle.

So yeah, I feel like in the weirdest way, I was set up for the easiest version of having a really bad diagnosis.

I had a really good group of friends at a really close family.

I'm still getting a paycheck.

Like everything was kind of set for me to be able to say, okay, let's just focus on the problem at hand.

Yeah.

And how long have you been with your boyfriend?

Seven months.

Oh, so I started dating.

I started dating him post-diagnosis.

How did you?

Yeah.

He's a little nuts for doing that.

But I met him.

So he's my sister's husband's best friend.

So I've known him.

I know.

I know.

I know.

People are like, you need to write a rom-com about that.

You do.

Claudia will read it.

As long as it's smudgy.

Extra spicy.

Yeah.

Yeah, no, probably not.

But yeah, so we

met like 15 years ago at my sister's wedding, I think.

It was probably the first time, but we never lived in the same place.

I was always in New York or San Francisco.

He was always in Maryland.

And so when I moved back, my sister was like, well, I think it's time.

And so we just like started texting and then we hung out.

But then I was diagnosed.

So I went dark on him for like months.

And then once I started coming to, he like invited me to a wedding, which I quickly said no to because I was like, I will not show up with a cane in your wedding.

But yeah, we started dating shortly after that.

And it's been good.

It's weird dating with like this sort of hanging over you.

You have to ask some really serious questions early on.

Like the kids question had to come up on like date two.

I think on date three, I was like, so if my arms ever stopped working, like, would you wipe my butt?

Like, you have to ask them really uncomfortable questions.

And it's like, these are all things that we'll probably at some point have to ask our partners.

Right.

But like, not when you are like in your 30s, you know, right.

Not, you know, a few months.

And courting and like showing, you know, right.

Like showing yourself.

You won't even like fart.

Right.

Right.

I will fart, but can you write my ass?

That's exactly the phase we are in at seven months, I would say.

Like that's the perfect explanation.

Were you like actively seeking out a relationship?

Was dating a priority for you when you met him?

So I had gone on the dating apps, but that was even more confusing because I'm like, do I just write it in my profile?

Like, hey, I'm terminal, but also cute.

Like, get at me.

And so I just.

So you.

You are also cute.

I made a profile and I just like, I was getting like a lot of nice responses.

I just really didn't know how to handle it.

So I kind of just avoided like, I didn't want to have to tell a stranger.

on the first date about this stuff like especially on dating apps when you know you're like a swipe away from another option i just was like not confident enough for it

and so i kind of had given up on the idea of a relationship period i was like i guess you know that's just not really going to be part of my life i have other things to focus on now i have this purpose and then brian just came crawling in you know

i know he's a cutie

so all in all like when you look back on the last few years and the journey you have ahead of you like what how how do you describe it like what is your disposition like i know you feel very compelled to like advocate and have more people know about ALS, but like on a personal level, like, does the future scare you at all?

So

this is sort of a weird thing to try to explain because I don't think I could understand it unless I was given this diagnosis.

But for me, like, I do not picture a future.

And that sounds so sad, but it's honestly, I think it's my brain protecting me.

Like, I honestly think we all have really protective brains because once I was diagnosed, those two to three months, I was thinking, like, okay, so I'm not going to have kids.

I'm probably not going to, you know, like be this corporate baddie that I thought I was going to be.

Like, all of that just kind of, I was grieving it.

But once I kind of got past that, I was like,

now if anyone asked me, like, oh, what are your plans, you know, for when you progress further?

I'm like,

couldn't tell ya.

Like, I don't, my brain just doesn't want to go there.

And so I don't really think about the future.

And I actually think it's made me a lot happier.

Like it's, it's almost a relief in a sense, because you're like, I don't have to worry about everything I was worrying about before.

Yeah.

It's really just about like making sure I'm happy, making sure I feel good.

And it's like, Claudia, if you don't break out into live like we were dying at one point,

I feel like

you were dying.

No, by the way, I feel like that's actually a really healthy way of looking at things.

Like that's definitely a defense mechanism for like your psyche to protect you.

But I think that actually sounds really healthy and gives you the ability to wake up every day

and be happy.

Yeah.

And just take, and I think that's what everyone does on some level.

Like you're just trying to make it through one day at a time.

Right.

Like we all never know how things are going to work out for us.

But if we can make it through today, we'll be okay.

Exactly.

Well, we know you're a big pop culture girly.

And you wanted to come on the toast, so we're going to toast.

We're going to gonna do the toast treatment

I would like really wanted to learn as fast as you did the ending But I couldn't do it It's like truly a skill No, the thing is but you could you could practice and like you could do your own ending like when Claudia doesn't do it and I do it like I kind of ad lib so when we close it's all you're all

but do your own thing with it.

Yeah, okay, okay.

Maybe we'll get something that becomes part of our new ending.

We love fresh.

We love fresh.

Okay, pop culture wise.

So a lot going on in the universe right now.

Kardashians, like kind of going through this unique period.

What is your take on the current state?

Give us like a state of the union on the Kardashians right now.

They could give us so much exposure in the ALS world.

They're so famous.

Yeah.

And I think my next TikTok series is going to be like pitching celebrities on why they should donate to ALS.

And I feel like Kylie would be a really easy one to do because like I already have the lip kits.

I could just like talk like her, talk, you know, sell to her a little bit.

So I think that's going to be my next series.

Is that, you know, like an issue in the ALS community, like searching for a cure?

Is it a lack of funds?

It's very underfunded.

And it's crazy because like the ice bucket challenge raised $150 million.

Wow.

That helped fund like one medication.

And so

it's not a matter of like

them, you know, not knowing

there's there's a lot that needs to be done.

Like, we don't understand why people get it.

We don't understand why people progress faster with it than others.

And so, I think research, money towards research is really what my focus has been in terms of funding.

That's where I donate a lot of my money.

And so, yeah, I feel like the concept of it being underfunded needs to be more friend-centered.

Yeah.

Yeah, I didn't realize that.

I didn't realize that either.

What other kinds of funding is there there for ALS aside from like research?

Like is there for medications?

There's like buckets.

Yeah.

There's like, I would say there's like the cure bucket and that's like research and medications.

And then there's like the care side of things where patients, you know, need like wheelchairs, they need adaptations, they need

like feeding tube surgery.

Like basically with ALS, all of your muscles stop working.

So like one by one, you become fully paralyzed.

And that includes like your lungs can stop, like your swallowing can stop, your speech is gone.

So like everything is basically like machine

relying on machines at a certain point.

And so the care bucket is really like making sure that patients have what they need.

Yeah.

Because I think like a lot of people, I mean, with any disability, like you're more likely to go into serious poverty.

So that's the other bucket.

And like, like I said, I feel really lucky that I'm still working.

So I have the money to take care of that part for myself.

So I focus on giving more money to research, but people have their preferences.

Yeah, no, it gets expensive.

Yeah.

Our, you know, whole life in the last few months has revolved around Tom Sandoval and his insane mustache and just horrible personality.

What is your take?

Like, obviously, your team Ariana, but you have any thoughts on the situation?

Hot takes you want to share with the class?

Yeah, a hot take, perhaps?

I just can't get over.

He keeps popping up on my TikTok.

Like his band Yeah, keeps popping up on my tiktok the accent work he was doing like he thinks that's a skill like he was home practicing accents in the mirror before these shows No, he really thinks brutal like Elton John like that's the type of delusional person we're working with here.

Yes, like he thinks he's gonna be like a one-namer in the future, you know

Tom

exactly.

It's brutal like every time I'm like so ready to swipe away and then I'm like is he singing you know that 99 red balloon song yeah

like full scottish accent as he's doing it it's so it's so painful to watch so weird i can't imagine like being in the front row as his girlfriend being like that's

no that's such a good point like imagine i could that honestly could never be me

i yeah i guess you just get kind of like love sick you know where you just feel like blindly supportive but man brutal what about succession are you watching succession

It's like the worst show, thank you, thank you of all time.

I have watched everything,

yeah.

No, you can.

I'm terminal, people can't come for me.

They that show is like

it has had the same plot of every episode for like every single season.

And you think the finale, like they'd be going out with a bang.

Honestly, like the episode where Logan died was like like

a nice change

but then they went right they went right back to it in the following episode and it's like

Kendall yeah Kendall's like back to being a little nutty yeah yeah the whole thing is just so painful to watch I can't I can't believe and you don't like Tom and Greg that's the only like thing that can kind of get me through it that's what a lot of people say but I see right through them

I like Tom.

Greg doesn't so much do it for me.

I also feel like Greg,

like, there were a bunch of blinds about him, like, just being super creepy in clubs, and that kind of, like, ruined the Greg character.

I completely thought he was, like, so beloved.

He was, and then, like, you know, if I was like, like, ability is a prison, and there was all these blinds.

None of it is confirmed, but, like, he's like being accused of being, like, really fucking weird.

Oh, I do.

Just like taking home a lot of girls and like talking about how he's on the show.

Who knows if it's true?

Like, I mean, he's like a tall, cute guy.

I don't, I feel like he doesn't need it, but Yeah, it just kind of ruins his character for me.

But Tom still has me.

Tom is

enjoyable at times, but also he gets on the hamster wheel of like not stopping talking about nothing.

He's tolerable sometimes.

So what other things were on your list?

I actually, I got Shiv.

I got Shiv too.

You were missing.

But with a different hair.

With different hair.

I don't see it.

You're missing it.

I don't see it either.

I don't see a lot of them, though.

I feel like it's hard to see on yourself.

But it is hard to see on yourself.

Yes.

Like, so many people will tell me I look look like someone.

I'm like, I really don't see it.

But I guess if everybody says it, there's something in there.

There's something.

Shiv is a really weird character, too.

Like, I feel like every time they focus on her, she's making crazy eyes and they're playing scary music.

And I'm like, is this supposed to be deeper than I'm thinking it is?

I don't understand.

I'm just, I'm not into the show.

I'm really glad it's ending.

Me too.

Okay, can you walk me through some of the other things on your list?

Like when you had to sit down and be like, these are the things I would love to do.

What is like the, what are, name a few of them.

And then what's like the thing that you your number one number one

I think they're pretty equally weighted honestly, but one of them would have

a lunch with like Amy Poehler, Tina Fey, like that group of girls.

Because I feel like if you have a lunch with them, like they'll get to know you and they'll like you and then you'll be friends forever.

That's like always what I think.

Yeah, it's like the multiple wishes situation.

So that's right.

And then that's just the start of your friendship.

I know.

But like, I also was like, they can bring whoever they want to.

Like, if they want to bring like Steve Carell or Kristen Wigg, like, I am down.

Yeah.

So that was one.

The other is like having a sleepover with Taylor Swift so she can tell me secrets.

I honestly think like I could be a really good vessel for celebrity secrets because like for all they know, I could die tomorrow.

And so it's like.

I want to know like what happened in that Beyoncé elevator.

Like I should be the one to know.

No, and you deserve to know.

I deserve it.

I've earned this.

Are you a really big Swifty?

I am.

I am.

Although I'm not going to the concert because,

well, one, I like didn't want to go through the hellscape of ticketing.

But two, like, in a wheelchair, I don't really know how that works.

I imagine they have like sections.

They do.

I have actually heard the concert.

I'd feel bad like the people in front of me would feel bad standing.

No, by the way, I want them to feel.

No, you're totally fine.

I've actually heard Taylor's concert is very ADA friendly.

And most stadiums are like there are sections and you're at the front of the section like you're you're you're perched that you actually have some of the best seats in the joint

Okay, so I should have added that to my make a wish I mean although people are like when I did that make a wish I thought it was gonna be a fun activity where everyone would write their make-a-wishes Yeah, and instead like people started tagging like Taylor Nation, Taylor Nation, Claudio Austria I was like, oh God, this is like taking a turn for like actual make-a-wish.

Like I was thinking it would be, I was thinking it would be like a little fun activity where i get to see like what people want to do have other people reached out like are other wishes gonna come true

um

so the one of them was hang out with the penguin which like some of these i just put in like as to be like funny like one of them i wrote to have the friends cast call me their friend and people tagged courtney cox i'm like no well you know what courtney cox is always thirsting out on tick tock i'm telling you she's gonna respond to you perhaps um

yeah the penguin one a lot of people have been contacting zoos on my behalf.

And I'm like, I probably could have done this one myself.

And I just like didn't

put in the effort.

Well, I just think you're fabulous.

I think you're just a gorgeous girly with such a great energy and such a beautiful smile.

And I have loved chatting with you.

And the fact that the toast in any tiny way has been a part of your journey makes me so happy.

And I just can't thank you enough for coming and chatting with us.

Thank you so much.

I've loved being here.

A pleasure.

We loved having you.

You guys, make sure to follow TikTok.

Girl, your fucking TikTok username.

What the fuck is that?

Oh, my God.

We have to talk about it.

So I want to plug it and I can't even say it.

Yeah.

I didn't, like I said, when I started TikTok, I had like 10 followers and I was talking to myself most of the time.

So I started, my symptoms started with a limp.

And so you know the band Limp Biz Kit?

Of course.

I get the reference.

I threw my name in the middle of it.

So it's Limp Bruise Kit.

But come to find out that Limp Biz Kit is like a very filthy sex act.

Did you know this?

I'll be right back.

Hold on, let me just

get on urban dictionary.

Only like the men, only a certain percentage of men in my life have come forward to be like, you might want to think about changing it.

If I'm using, you know, it's not a common one, I would say, and I mean limp biscuits is so much more common.

Oh my God.

Do you want to read it out loud?

Yes.

You literally like

according to Urban Dictionary.

Oh, wait.

Oh, my God.

I'm literally getting getting a virus.

Okay.

Several guys stand in a circle around a biscuit.

They all begin to jerk off ejaculating onto the biscuit.

I'm not reading the last sentence.

I'm not reading.

Oh, there's wait.

There's more.

Oh, did you know?

The last person to finish ejaculating has to eat the biscuit.

Like, bro.

I based my, I based disability awareness campaign off of that.

Listen, it is not too late to change your username.

I know.

Well, now TikTok just shows like Brooke Eby.

Yeah, so I feel like it's fine.

It's kind of hidden.

But yeah, I really committed.

I tied a, what's the phrase?

Like I tied my horse to the wrong post or whatever.

That sounds great.

Yeah.

Yeah, something like that.

I get what you're saying.

Well, yeah, it was tough.

If you're looking for Brooke's TikTok, just search Brooke Eby, B-R-O-O-K-E space E-B-Y, right?

Yeah, that's perfect.

Such a pleasure.

Thank you so much for joining us.

Toasters, follow Brooke, send her love, tell her beautiful celebrities she looks like, and keep doing the fabulous work that you're doing.

It was such an honor to get to talk to you.

Seriously, thank you for coming on.

Oh my gosh, thank you so much for having me.

This is so surreal.

This is so fun.

Okay, okay.

Okay.

Thank you so much for listening to the toast.

Do you still do Millennial Morning?

Millennial Morning Show?

We go live.

Feel free to subscribe.

We go live and then it's like Stitcher Streamcast Podcast, right?

You nailed it.

Something about wickedly talented.

Oh,

that is my favorite pop culture moment in history.

It's wickedly talented.

I say it all the time.

I said it in one of my TikToks and people started commenting like, I knew you were a toaster.

And I was like, oh my God.

There's something about like the W.

Wickedly.

It's like the wind up wickedly talented.

I just liked it.

It's like he added an H after the W.

It's like

it's like a whistle.

There's something so strange about that whole thing.

Like, that's another secret I want to get in.

By the way, because there was something going on that day.

Yeah.

I mean, there's something going on with John Travolta, period.

Oh, like,

I need to know it all.

Add it to the list.

Add it to the list of secrets.

That is so funny.

Well, you guys, make sure to follow Brooke.

Thank you so much for joining us.

And you guys, we'll see you on tomorrow's episode.

Bye.

Love you.

Bye.