Worm With A Mustache: Thursday, May 25th, 2023
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Good morning, millennials, and welcome back to the toast.
Happy Thursday.
That feels like a Friday because we have no work tomorrow because of the holiday weekend.
Hey, Drax, how you darn?
I'm dern good sitting with my green girl.
If you're watching on YouTube, Claudia and I are in head-to-toe green.
If we were on a green screen right now, you would be seeing nothing.
This show is right now like 90% green.
Oh my god, we're, you know what?
We've gone green, Claudia.
Jackie, Greta's influence.
We've gone green.
Greta's influence cannot be under overstated.
I think this is what she meant when she asked us to go green.
We heard her and we listened.
And so we've gone green with our plastic cups and our plastic straws.
Cheers.
Save the planet.
How you dern?
I'm always being asked how you dern.
I never get to ask how you dern, even though I was the one who started how you dern.
I'm okay.
Like, I have been sitting here with you for like 15 minutes and you haven't mentioned my haircut.
Because it's not drastic.
I know, but like, it's nice, you know, you know, I spent the money and the time at the salon.
It's nice to be like, hey, great haircut.
I'm just so used to you looking beautiful every day that it kind of doesn't register for me.
I don't know.
When you came in with a haircut, I was like, oh my God, I love your haircut.
You're so gorgeous.
Like, you should be on the cover of a magazine.
Like, I was just kind of fawning over you.
And I was just like kind of expecting that sort of energy.
Well, one, I saw your haircut on Instagram last night, so I felt like caught up.
Okay.
Two, it looks really similar.
But three, I will say, it looks like you got a really nice blowout.
Thanks.
I didn't do anything drastic.
I got like a quick trim.
You know, I'm losing my hair these days.
I can't be affording to cut it all off, you know?
Yeah, that's so unlike you.
Usually you love to cut it off.
I know.
Even though the annoying thing is, like, when you need your hair to grow, like you have to cut it.
It's just so counterintuitive.
No, but it makes sense.
You know, I got a couple couple girls with just like healthy locks okay wait i just thought of something you have like moments that are like so inconsequential in your childhood i thought of this yesterday now i just thought of another one like random moments in class that like were so humiliating but like we're really like nothing but you randomly remember them yeah okay
I remember I was in two I remember I remembered something yesterday that was like so embarrassing that I did in actual kindergarten but um like it was so stupid and then I just thought of another one when I was in the eighth grade I don't remember it was like a a bible class at humash and she was trying to make a metaphor about how in order for something to grow you need to like cut it off or whatever i don't remember what it was she was like so when you guys need your hair to grow what do you do and she called on me and i didn't know at that time like in the eighth grade like in order for your hair to grow you needed to cut it so i remember answering i was like wash it
and it was just humiliating because then like everybody shot up their hands they were like cut it.
I was like, okay, I guess we all just cut it.
That's a little advanced.
Like, it says that he has metallogy school.
How would you know that?
Thank you.
But But what just reminded me is something I wanted to tell you.
I remembered yesterday, I don't remember how or why this popped into my memory, but like the most humiliating thing that happened to me in deadass kindergarten, okay?
Part of like the kindergarten curriculum was every day somebody would come up and like do the calendar and like say what date it was.
And I remember thinking like,
how does everybody know the date?
Like it's such a, like to me, it was such a far off concept, like month and day.
I'm like, how are we all knowing this?
Like I never paid attention.
I was just like dreading the day I got called on.
and I don't know if I knew that I was gonna get called on that day or I just had a feeling but I pretended to fall asleep and she was like Claudia come do the date and I just Didn't move and she like literally came up and like was poking me and I was like pretending I was literally asleep even though any normal human being who was asleep who would have been woken up by like her screaming in my ear and I ended up doing it and like I if I had paid attention I would have known like she literally tells you like what the month and the date is like you don't have to come into class knowing the date I just remember being so like confused by the concept of the date I'm like how is everybody knowing what month and date it is?
It was, and I was dreading like for weeks, like my day coming up.
And then I just pretended to be dead in the back of the classroom, like, but, but I ended up figuring it out.
It was humiliating.
I'm so sorry you had to go through that.
Yeah.
I remember like, I think I ate a bag of dipsy doodles after I was like really like.
That's when the emotional eating began.
I understand.
I mean, as a child, you're not really responsible for time and like
days, months.
Now I guess all kids know the date because they have cell phones.
Right.
But back then, like, seriously, how was anyone supposed to know the the date when we I didn't even know what dates were?
I guess there's always like a calendar in the classroom, but still.
Right.
If I had paid attention, I would have known.
But I do think the point of that exercise was to learn.
That's how I'm sitting here today knowing that it's Thursday, May 25th.
To learn about them because you don't know them already.
No, and it was a vicious cycle.
I understand.
So you have any stories like that?
Like trauma?
I'm sure that I do.
They just like pop into my head at random times and I actually suppress them because they're humiliating.
Yeah.
I also have like stories like thoughts that I've I've had where like I didn't raise my hand in class where it's like, I wish I said that.
What do you wish you said?
Just like something stupid once about in humash class.
Humash is like Torah, like Bible.
Yeah.
Calling it Bible makes it feel Christian, but we have a Bible too.
But we call it like the Torah, Humash.
Yeah.
Talmud.
Yeah.
So I just had like an interesting thought that I feel like the class might have liked, but I wasn't brave enough to share it.
I was like, oh, share it out.
We're healing our inner child.
Yes, yes, yes.
I just shared mine.
Come on.
Okay.
Okay.
So in Exodus.
Okay, which book is that?
Five?
When the Jews are slaves in Egypt and Moses brings them out.
Okay, what book is that?
Like three?
I feel like that's at the end.
Maybe four.
Maybe four.
Doesn't matter.
Irrelevant.
No, I'm just testing my own humashana.
Rejection.
Relevance.
Okay, sorry, sorry.
So Moses like goes to Pharaoh to
like demand that he free people go.
Let my people go.
And like the first time he goes in, he says it like with a really big boom in his voice.
And then he like repeats it and it's like kind of lower.
and it's the question the bible doesn't give like that much color to every you're supposed to extrapolate like all the rabbis they you know they spend their whole lives like adding color to the stories in the bible and so the way that like i saw it like kind of like in a movie like i thought that's kind of weird why would he say it twice like once loud once quiet right so by meaning there that we're supposed to extrapolate right and that was the conversation we were having in class like why say it once loud and once quiet and i felt and i feel like in the lines before it was like he was galvanizing people to like go with him to Pharaoh to let his people go and I feel like I could see it like it being in a movie where he like walks in he has like all this like hype around him he's like let my people go he's feeling confident but then it's like
he didn't have as much fanfare behind him as he thought and then he was like
let my people go
No, that's totally the answer.
And you should have said it.
Okay, well.
No, it's like we're all big and brave until like we.
Yeah, you say it and then it like echoes and you're like, oh, fuck, I thought I had peeps behind me right right but it's just me so it's like let my people go please
PLZ PLZ interesting and so you never said it I never said it but you knew it no that's just like I don't know that I knew it because it's all open to interpretation to interpretation but like that was my interpretation I feel like the class might have benefited from it maybe even the teacher like she could have been teaching it maybe she had never heard that that theory before right and so maybe like I'm I stifled like other years of classic learning yeah because they didn't have that.
They didn't have that opinion to ruminate on.
See, and nobody in the room at that time like thought twice about you or like what you were going to say, but that's like something that sticks with you.
Isn't it so weird?
Yeah, everyone's on their own journey.
Even though I'm telling you, some kids in my kindergarten class definitely remember the girl who like pretended to be dead in the back of the classroom.
No, because they don't really remember kindergarten.
And again, everyone's like thinking about themselves.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, so glad they weren't called on to do the calendar.
Yeah, but what month was it?
It was either March or May, something with an M.
I remember feeling like triggered by the month.
Because I remember being a kid and I used to get seasonal allergies.
So like when the
seasons were changing, like I would have to take Benadryl and I would hardcore pass out in class.
It was like so acceptable.
It's like she has allergies.
Right.
She's down for the girl.
You're like the count.
She's a sick girl.
She's down for the count.
Her Benadryl kicked in.
Right.
So maybe like they thought you had taken a Benadryl.
Yeah.
I mean, it was.
It was feeling unseasonably warm, if I remember correctly.
If it was May, you're kind of in the green zone.
Green.
Green.
Okay, so that's today's Unpacking of Childhood Trauma.
Tune in tomorrow for more.
Yeah, even though we don't have a show tomorrow.
I'll try and think of more stories.
So this is the last show everyone's going to see me before I go to Taylor at MetLife.
And we have a bunch of Taylor news because she dropped a bombshell after the episode yesterday.
Yeah, I wouldn't say it's a bombshell, but she dropped a nice
little surprise for the fans.
I watched Keeping Up with the Kardashians season one, season three, episode one.
Last night was also Vanderpump Rules Reunion Part One, which we're going to talk about in the TV recap segment.
I know you didn't watch Kardashians, so let me just tell you, like, it was good.
I'm excited.
It was nice to have the girlies back.
Like, there's definitely an undercurrent brewing between Courtney and Chloe.
I mean, excuse me, Courtney and Kim.
We know it's like about the adult, but there's just like a disconnect there that we're seeing.
Like, Courtney was not really in the episode that much,
but there's...
Every time she's talking about Kim, like, it's not good.
Okay, I'm really excited to watch, but it came out at midnight and Yargirl was fast asleep.
Me too.
I watched it this morning while I was getting ready because I'm in this like new era where I'm watching things in the morning.
I feel like it's such a great way to wake up.
I watched more Ariana Call Her Daddy while I got ready this morning because I can just stick my phone on my mirror because I have this little sticky sticky grippy and I do my makeup in the mirror and I watch.
It's perfect.
We're just consuming content, firing on all cylinders.
Consuming content, creating content.
Yesterday, we posted a Patreon episode,
kind of like the one everyone's been waiting for, about why I'm in New York, why I've been in New York and like why I will be here for a little bit longer.
And the whole story is on Patreon.
I'm not going to tell the whole story again.
The episode's 55 minutes.
It's like a six week saga.
It's very detailed, but I will share with the toast because I'm not trying to like clickbait the news or anything.
And like I feel like it's germane to, if you're a toaster and not a Patreon toaster, like you still want to know.
You deserve to know.
But I did have some pregnancy complications that brought me to a doctor in New York to stitch up my cervix.
And now I'll be getting my care here for the rest of my pregnancy.
And while the circumstances aren't great, we are just delighted to have you back, Jax.
Thanks.
It's been nice to be back with my girl Swirly.
I know she needed me.
I desperately needed you.
And now I feel like you're in a good place with your maternity wardrobe.
You got a huge package yesterday to the studio.
You're currently wearing one of the pieces.
Like, it feels like all's right.
Yeah.
Shout out to Smash and Test because they have like maternity jumpsuits and they sent me a couple of them.
And that's really what I'm feeling right now.
You look fab.
I love a jumpsuit.
What you the Kardashians episode opens up with a Beyonce song, which is like so big budget of them.
And I've been singing it all morning.
What's your you him?
What do you him?
Happy like falling in love.
It's a cuff it.
I'm in the mood to fuck something up.
That's such a like real line.
I am in the mood to fuck something up.
Maybe this episode.
Maybe I'm gonna fuck it up.
Maybe not.
Perhaps not.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No, fuck it up is like,
it could be good.
Okay.
But I fucked that shit up.
Like, I tore it up, you know?
Or like, she fucked it up.
Like, she destroyed it.
I wasn't, I think, yeah.
I wasn't saying in the light.
I was saying, I'm I'm going to fuck this up.
Like, let's fucking go, bitch, you know?
Let's give them the best damn episode they've ever fucking seen.
Okay.
Sounds like you're saying a lot of conflicting things, but okay.
Just know it's all positive.
Okay.
Just cool.
Just, I know pregnancy brain.
Like, I'm going to, I'm going to fuck it up in a good way.
Is that so derogatory when people say that?
Like, it's okay when the pregnancy says it.
So, like, what I just did, I was acknowledging was not okay.
Yeah.
Mama's.
Pregnancy brain.
Mama's getter.
The mamas came out in full force for yesterday.
I was like scrolling through comments, and what was so great-well, not great, but you know what I mean.
What was so positive about your episode was that when you were dealing with this, like, weird kind of medical rarity that we didn't know much about, we didn't like have anyone we could talk to who was like, hey, did you have this?
Like, what did you do?
And that's the beauty of the toast and like such a great community of women, but especially moms, was like, so many people were like, oh, my sister had this, I had this, here's what happened to me.
And it's just so much comforting that's known you're not like this freak.
Yeah, no, and just to have hear like other people's stories, good stories, different like
journeys that people have been on.
And I figured that when I shared, like, I would start to hear from more women who experienced the same, literally the same thing or something extremely similar.
And I have, and it's been like very comforting to know, like, this is just like something that happens sometimes, and we got to deal with it.
And you're not like an outlier, it's like a thing.
Yeah, which, like, I like I knew because like that's what the doctors have said, but it's different when like you know people or you've heard yeah stories.
Yeah,
well, I love you.
I love you, dear light.
I'm so glad you're here.
We're gonna give a gorgeous episode.
I'm touched.
I feel so untouched.
And I want you.
That's another like core memory, opposite of childhood trauma, like whatever the opposite of that is, like core memory.
When we met the Veronicas at Nobu, when we were like, we're in the city as kids, like for a big, I think it was your birthday, right?
Yeah.
A birthday extravaganza.
And we were obsessed with the Veronicas.
That was like at their prime.
And we saw them.
And we took a photo, right?
Yeah, we did.
We got to find that photo.
I know.
We always say that.
It's like on Facebook somewhere.
We haven't even looked.
We got to find it.
Yeah.
So until we find it, I think that we should deliver
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and he's like I lost the thing he thought he left it in Portugal and I'm like this motherfucker like I can't bring anything into this house cut to it was in his suitcase and now he's back to looking better but like if there were a few weeks ago where you thought like Ben was looking like a little rusty that's why rusty and crusty that's rusty soffer that's so him okay our first story is some sad news to start off the day I'm sorry Tina Turner has passed away at the age of 83 Tina Turner the iconic singer who was dubbed the queen of rock and roll died on Wednesday May 24th at the age of 83 Her publicists confirmed to people that she died in her home near Zurich, Switzerland.
Tina Turner, the queen of rock and roll, has died peacefully today at the age of 83 after a long illness in her home
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So sad.
She leaves behind such a fabulous legacy.
Lizzo at her concert last night did like a Tina Turner tribute.
It was really amazing.
And then that video of Beyonce
performing Big Wheels Keep Bum Turning
at Tina Turner's like Kennedy Honors like went viral last night and I watched it.
It was like really spectacular.
I just feel like this is, you know, 83 is it's a good age to go.
Like it's, she lived a long, very, very successful and prosperous life, but it's a huge loss for the community.
Yeah, it is.
So many tributes are coming.
Like everyone's posting about it.
Everyone's sharing.
Another one that went viral, which is one of my favorites, I don't think I ever really realized it was Tina Turner, is the shit's creep of it all.
You know, Patrick and David's song is you're simply the best.
I call you when I need you.
I am
fire.
I love that one.
You come to me wild and wild.
He like strips it down on a guitar, so I don't realize it's Tina Turner until he goes, you come to me,
give me everything I need.
You're simply the best.
That's a really good one.
That is a good one.
I didn't realize, I hadn't thought about that scene in so long and i didn't realize it was tina turner there's two so he remember when they like close down the the apothecary early and he just like dances for him and it's like kind of weird but really cute but then he also does like the performance there's like a talent show or something in the community and he does it and i think that's when like david realized like he really loves him and it's so and moira's like behind david like holding his shoulder it's literally like the cutest thing ever and it's like such a random song for them to have chosen for that moment but it really is perfect it is perfect uh then you know when a major celebrity dies comes the onslaught of a really inappropriate social media behavior and i feel like the last time we had this with olivia newton john i believe it was i don't know if i called it out on the
on the podcast we called out the idea of rip olivia rip olivia but it was it was garcel on twitter being like rip olivia like no other context it just felt so
Like what's the don't eat don't even chair, you know?
Yeah, can't even write rest in peace and we saw more of that behavior last night and I'm gonna start calling people out Okay, and because you know what the one I saw yesterday that you sent to me, not only was like
what they said, rip Tina, like just so you're gonna like someone's entire life into seven letters, but the format in which they posted it on too.
I didn't even know people still use this.
Instagram status update, like, which is...
doesn't go to your whole fee, but just like the people who you mutually follow and follow them.
They were rip Tina.
I think there was like a dove.
It was Blake Hortsman.
Like that's.
I don't think there was a dove even.
Oh.
Let me check.
Well, I don't even know that you still follow Blake Hortsman.
Love that for you.
I don't.
You do.
Oh, it was a broken heart emoji.
Even worse.
The dove would have been more respectful.
Yeah.
Yeah, because I kind of like, I don't know how to get out of following people sometimes.
And I actually don't mind following him because, like, him and Giannina I find really interesting and like they're constantly doing things and really into each other.
So that's not someone I'm trying to unfollow.
But I, especially when someone follows me back, like I will follow them until I die.
Yeah, okay.
Well, I understand.
When it gets really bad, I will mute them.
Yeah, oh, I am the queen of muting people.
I only really unfollow,
like if there's beef.
No, because I kind of like want to rise above the beef.
And I'm like, I'll still follow you.
Yeah, no, because I'm such a big person.
Like, I'm so mature.
I love to do that.
Yeah, I'm so much.
Like, I literally can't unfollow.
No, I love, I love when someone unfollows me and I like remain following them.
I'm so mature.
Yeah.
And like, I don't even see you unfollowing me because I'm so busy.
I'm so busy being mature.
I'm above this petty
nonsense.
I completely agree.
I guess I would only unfollow someone like if they posted something that like I thought was like
offensive.
I'm offended, dangerous.
Like goodbye.
I don't want to see it or something, like something that like makes me upset.
I'm like, I don't want to be upset on my Instagram feed.
Good day, sir.
I said good day.
Yeah.
But for the most part, I just follow, follow.
Yeah, no, that's funny.
But what's not funny is Tina Turner.
We're wishing her family well.
A great legacy she leaves behind.
Yes, for sure.
Next up, Taylor Swift announced Midnight's Deluxe album with Ice Spice and more Lana Del Rey.
So right after we wrapped yesterday, Taylore posted that she will be releasing a deluxe edition of Midnights titled Midnights Till Dawn that will feature Ice Spice as a guest on her fresh version of Karma and newly recorded vocals from Lana Del Rey on their Snow on the Beach collaboration.
Because when that song first came out, people were like, Where's Lana?
Right.
By the way, I listened to that song probably 50 times.
I never once heard Lana.
Was she silent or was she silenced?
It's kind of like Chris Stapleton on the other song.
Yeah.
I Bet You Think About Me.
But since he has like a man's voice, I hear a little bit of like a harmony from like a lower register.
Does he have a verse?
No, no, no.
Okay.
That's what she does.
Like you all over me with Marin Morris.
I ain't hear Marin.
Same with Estee Haim.
Haim in, I think she did it, but I don't hear them.
Yeah, I love Snow on the Beach.
It's one of my favorite songs from Midnight, so it's very clear to me that Lana's missing.
Yeah.
The other songs I haven't like listened to as much, so I don't think about as much.
Well, I love the concept of giving karma like a new, I feel like this is a thing people did like 10 years ago.
You would release a song and then you would release it again with like a really sick burst on it.
And kind of how Cardi B like brought that Maroon 5 song back from the dead.
You don't want a girl like me.
I'm too crazy, but every other girl you meet is fugazi.
sure them other girls were nice enough but you need someone to spice sit up so who you gonna call cardi cardi come and rev it up like a holly holly why is the best fruit always forbidden i'm coming to you now doing 20 over the limit the red light red light stop i don't play when it comes to my heart keep trying i don't need a white horse in a carriage i need white porsches and carrots whatever that was like literally one of the best rap verses of all time and like you can't tell me no and like nobody even heard that song before cardi b was on it i don't know about that part no by the way that song was i think marin 5 has even said, like, we released this song if it was like you.
Girls like you, it flopped, and then Cardi did it, and then everyone loved the song as a whole.
Yeah.
Like there really is a good song, the Maroon 5 part and the Cardi song, but I never would have heard it without Cardi.
Got it.
Okay, interesting.
I didn't know that was the history of the song.
Yeah.
So I love this concept of karma, like having a new moment.
For me, though, the big story from this new version of Midnights is Hits Different.
Yes, so Digital and Physical Editions will each have a format exclusive track for the digital release.
It will be Hits Different, a song that was previously only available on the Target version of Midnights.
More interestingly, for fans, the Physical Edition will have a Vault track never before heard from the Midnights writing session, and you'll be able to buy it at Metlife.
Taylor's like so.
This is where Taylor annoys me, okay?
So it's like, we waited months and months for Hits Different, which is like one of these secret tracks.
Finally, we're getting it, only to find out that there's another secret track that we can't get unless, and who the fuck
knows how to play a CD?
I don't have a car, and most car things don't even have CD things things anymore.
Yeah.
So, like, let's say I even get, I'm going to Metlake.
Let's say I get the C day.
What the fuck?
I got to go get my Walkman from storage.
I'm trying to think.
Some computers still accept a CD.
And then you can burn it onto your laptop.
Yeah.
What is this?
Like, LimeWire?
Maybe you have to go to the library.
No, literally.
That's really crazy.
But I can't really express the gratitude I feel for being able to finally listen to Hits Different.
Some angel goddess ripped the audio from their CD that they bought at target like taylor does this thing where she puts her best songs as like exclusive songs at target she has this partnership with target where she sells different versions of her cds at target and you get like an extra song new romantics literally one of her best songs nobody heard for years because it was like a target thing now it's like on spotify and everything so she does this thing it's so annoying but some angel goddess bought the target thing i don't want to like blow up her spot but she put the audio she like uploaded a podcast to spotify but it's just the song, so it's like the hits different podcast, but it like everything else was getting taken down.
But I think when she put it up as a podcast, I listened to it for a while.
I'm not sure if it's still up, but she was a queen.
Um,
and now we're finally gonna get it.
Like, I've been dying to like pop my pussy into that song.
Well, now's your chance.
And the all-new song on the physical Midnight MetLife album is called You're Losing Me, which is feeling like
maybe we would understand why Joe lost her.
I chased the artifacts, cried over, I had found the space that I'm needing.
I'm excited.
Yeah, it's exciting.
I'm excited for the Karma remix because Karma is like one of those songs that's like not my favorite.
Actually, no, sorry, I'm confusing it with vigilante shit for a second.
But still, Karma's not my favorite, but it's like really strong and solid, and I think it just needs to be like punched up one or two notes.
Karma is a song that like I liked in the beginning, but it really, it didn't rise to the top once I really got to know the whole album.
However, the tour made me like it so much better.
That's what I heard.
I heard also the tour makes you like vigilante shit.
No, vigilante shit will and always be not my favorite song, and I don't know why it made it onto the Era's tour set list.
I think because it's one you can have fun with.
It's so descriptive, and it's like.
Well, she does a very sexy dance with a chair on tour to the song.
So people are loving that.
But
it's not giving what it needs to be giving.
Also, speaking of Taylor, we need to talk about the fact that she was out in New York last night.
No, we didn't at one of Claudia's frequent haunts.
But to make you feel better, like you were never going to be there, was night one of Vanderpump World.
Of course not.
I was not getting dressed.
I was not staying alert.
And it's almost like she knew like all the thirst monsters would be inside watching Vanderpump World.
So she would be free to roam the restaurant in peace.
Genius.
I feel, it felt personal, her going out to a restaurant I go to all the time.
That's actually the restaurant I went to to look for her when I was getting dressed and staying alert.
It's her fault.
And like it's over.
Yeah.
Because her first concert is tomorrow in New York, so she's not going to go out tonight.
Like she's got to prepare.
So like her week in New York, like it's over.
I can't like.
Why does she go after New York?
That is a very good question.
Maybe she's still on the Eastern Seaborg.
Yeah, like at some point when she's like in LA, she's not going to be coming back to New York.
No, but she's been like a New New England queen these last few years.
So she goes to Boston, she comes back.
She goes to Philly, she comes back.
Because even though she has her house in Rhode Island, I don't know why.
Oh, yeah, and the Rhode Islanders were saying that she was going to be spending the week in Rhode Island.
Chicago's next.
She'll definitely come back.
You think?
Chicago's like an hour flight.
Where's after Chicago?
Detroit, Michigan.
That's also like a quick flight.
Pittsburgh, she'll definitely come back.
Minneapolis.
I don't know.
Where does Matt Healy,
where is he based?
UK.
He's based in the UK.
Yeah.
Then Kansas.
UK or is like New York?
Yeah, well, because when you travel to the States from the UK, going to LA is literally an additional six hours after a six-hour flight.
But I just feel like New York and London are friends.
They are, and they're like very similar cities.
I feel like if you like London, you like New York.
Yeah.
They're like fast-paced, meet people.
I feel like Londoners could like look down on LA
and not want to spend a lot of time there.
Definitely.
So that's good for New York.
Yeah.
And Taylor has like a good setup in New York.
I think in Rhode Island, she does not get a lot of privacy.
Like everybody knows where her house is and it's not like protected in a sense.
Like people can go to the beach and like see her house.
And yeah, they're far, but it's weird.
In New York, she like bought that whole block.
She has her own garage.
She pulls in.
She like she has it made in the shade.
Plus, it's still a little cold to head to.
The beach.
The beach and Rhode Island.
Like, I don't think it's, the season's not in full swing yet.
That's why Memorial Day after the mattress firm sale, like maybe she'll head over there.
And by the way, this is like the greatest time to be in New York.
In like a a month or two, New York is insufferable.
It's so hot and smelly.
She will not be back.
She will not be back.
But right now, it's like the best weather.
She's been wearing like cardigans, like not.
She's like me.
Yeah, no puffy jackets.
She's really here at like the high season.
Yeah.
So I think she'll be here for like the next few weekends until summer's in full swing and then she'll go to her summer house.
Yeah.
Where she summers.
Where she summers.
Okay.
Yeah.
You still have, so there's a chance.
So you're saying there's a chance.
There is a chance.
I think I believe in you.
Thank you.
It was just tough because like I have gotten dressed and I have stayed alert.
All for naught.
All for naught.
And And I like went to the place.
You had a blowout last night.
Not to make you feel worse.
Jeez, you are making me feel worse.
But you couldn't have.
You had to work.
Yeah, no.
I just also, even when I
people were DMing me because I guess they were like waiting outside.
They're like, Claudia, she's here.
She's here.
No part of me even felt compelled to go.
Like I was, I had tanned my face.
I was barefaced.
I was laying in bed with Theo.
I was eating a fudgeicle.
Like there was no way.
I understand.
I'm kind of in my popsicle era.
They're really good.
No, they really are.
I'm in my like pint of ice cream era, actually, which is so.
I've never really done it before, but now I kind of sit down.
I don't eat the, I like probably eat a third every time I sit down with it.
What flavor?
I like dolce, deleche, hagen, and a lot of the.
And you're doing talenti?
I do talenti and hagen-daz.
Talenti is a little healthier, so like you could have a little more.
No, like the calories on the back.
Yeah.
They speak for themselves.
Like the whole thing is like 700-something.
Oh, my God.
Whereas Hagen-Az, it's like a thousand-something.
Oh, so it is.
So, but is it more quantity?
I mean, it's the same quantity, but it's gelato.
It's not iced.
Rich, it's like made with real stuff, allegedly.
It's like real cream, not like
synthetics.
Yeah, but oh, last night I had banana pudding from Magnolia Bakery.
Oh, yum.
I did like the popsicle brand.
Like, the thing about me, when it comes to popsicles, like I want the all-American popsicle brand.
Like, I don't need these newfangled brands, you know?
Yeah, the ones made with like Greek yogurt.
No, no, no.
Even though those Yasa ones are very good.
But I, like, when I go, especially in the summertime, I'm feeling real American, popsicle brand all the way.
Like, the ones that come in a pack of two and you rip them apart.
That and Outshine brand, those are my favorites.
I'm just kind of in my popsicle era.
It's just so nice to get into bed like with a popsicle.
Yeah.
It's like a snack and also like a game.
No, it's a fun way to snack.
Yeah.
And it's like, how long can I suck on this?
You know, and it's like, is it going to fall on my sugar?
It's just like exciting.
Is Theo going to have the best night ever?
Yeah, with the fruity ones, I do give Theo a few licks.
The chocolate ones, never.
And then you lick it back yourself?
No, usually when I'm at the end of it, like I let him go.
I was trying to think, like, do I actually do that?
No, I don't.
Okay, good.
It's like kind of gross.
Yeah.
Great.
Are you ready for our next story?
Yeah.
Margot Robbie reveals the dorky actress that turned down Barbie.
I saw this.
Margo.
I'm joking.
Margot Robbie revealed she tried to cast Israeli beauty queen Gal Godot in her upcoming blockbuster because she had such strong Barbie energy, but the actress turned her down.
She said in her Vogue cover, which is like so cute and adorable.
Some quotes are coming out, but this was, you know, one of the the best factoids she said gal gadot is so impossibly beautiful but you don't hate her for being that beautiful because she's so genuinely sincere and she's so enthusiastically kind that it's almost dorky it's like right before being a dork so she asked her to star as barbie in the barbie movie um but she wasn't available to shoot the film it was likely that she was busy filming other projects including um greta gerwig's upcoming Snow White film.
Oh, I didn't realize she was working with Greta Gerwig on Snow White.
Which is interesting as we were discussing yesterday, because we know Gal Gadot is an extremely, you know, gorgeous Israeli queen, and Greta Gerwig hates Israel.
So interesting.
Nice to see Greta getting past her biases to work with talented actresses.
So I went, because when I first read this, I was like, Greta Gerwig has said, made some anti-Israel comments in the past.
She like signed this letter of like trying to boycott an Israeli artist.
And so I was, I just assume that that's why Gal Godot wouldn't want to work with her.
So I went to see like what she did originally
that like, you know, sparked all of this, but she has since expressed regret.
She like signed a letter with 60 other people trying to boycott the Lincoln Center from having this like artist come because
it was like Israeli and
his production was like sponsored by like Israeli cultural like tourism or whatever.
Yeah.
And so 60 people signed the letter and she was one of them.
But then she later expressed regret at signing the letter and she said
that
she's generally careful about causes that she supports, but in this case, she was not.
She was unfamiliar with the complexities of the letter and did not take the time to study them.
Okay, you know what?
Santa queen, who can
admit when she's wrong.
Okay, I take back what I said.
Having said that, I love Gal Gado, and I do not think she's right for this role.
And that's, I'm trying to think whether it's like I can only envision someone who's blonde in this role, but I just don't think she's right for it.
I could see why what Margaret Robbie's talking about, because she can be very like silly.
I feel like that's how she was in Wonder Woman.
She's like this gorgeous Amazon woman, and she's like like kind of dumb.
Like
I feel like that's how she would play it and I'm good on that.
Like I'm not looking to see that.
I feel like I could see that movie and it's like it would be annoying because even in Wonder Woman she got to be like a little annoying.
She's like this big dope walking around with her sword and her shield and she's like can't even like see herself.
You didn't see Wonder Woman.
No, I didn't see Wonder Woman.
But if you saw it, it's like good.
But there's just something weird about her portrayal of it where she's just a big dope.
Okay.
And I feel like that's what that, when Margaret Robbie says
when she says dorky, I say dopey, for sure.
I just feel like with the Barbie movie, like it was always meant to be Margaret Robbie.
I know Amy Schumer was originally cast.
That didn't feel right.
That feels right.
No, I love the Amy Schumer casting because it was like Barbie - it would have been a totally different movie.
It would have been Elf Barbie edition.
By the way, obsessed with that concept.
Obsessed.
And the thing about this Barbie movie is that still people don't know what the plot is.
Right, right.
Because the Amy Schumer won, and at first it was being like thrown around as it being like elf.
Like she's cast out of Barbie Land because she's like an outcast.
Or like that Amy Adams one.
Enchanted.
Yeah.
Which I love that.
Those are all amazing movies.
And that's funny.
It works and it would work with Barbie.
So they've said that that's not what this is, but like...
In the trailer, it looks like at one point they're in Barbie Land and then at one point they're in Black.
They're the real world.
Yeah.
And that they like escape together, Barbie and Ken.
Yeah.
I mean, I feel like there's a lot of talk about, you know, who would have or could have or should have played Barbie.
And I feel like there's not enough talk about who should have played Ken because I don't think Ryan Gosling is right for it.
Who should have played him?
Somebody younger.
I'm sorry.
Like.
They're supposed to be like flawless, right?
Margot Robbie is a flawless human being.
He's aging well, but he's not flawless.
Wow.
Like a Jacob Alorde type, you know?
Like, he's a perfect specimen.
I hadn't thought much into that.
Austin Butler.
A perfect specimen.
He'll start with like walking around at awards show.
Oh, my God.
Literally.
Sorry, guys.
I don't have any joints.
Thanks.
Nice to meet you.
So method.
So method.
Also, the Barbie album track list came out.
Yes.
And it's filled with.
But Taylor's not on it, right?
No.
There was so much speculation.
Like, pretty much in the Swifty community, it was confirmed that she was going to be a part of it.
And a lot of people thought that Hits Different was being saved for the soundtrack.
Got it.
Well, they put out like this lineup of the album artists, Ava Max, Charlie XTX, Dominique Fike, Dua Lippa, 5050, Gail, Haim, Ice Spice, Callie, Carol G, Khalid, Lizzo, Nicki Minaj, Pink Panthras, Ryan Gosling, Tame and Paula, and the Kid Leroy.
Then it says more Barbies and Kens to be announced.
To Navy Taylor's still in the running.
Yeah, that could be another announcement.
There are some highlights on there.
It's not like so star-sided as I thought, but like Nicki Minaj, Ice Spice.
It's strong, and it's being produced by Mark Ronson.
Oh, which bears well.
I I will sit down and put the album on like while I do my makeup and give it a shot.
Yeah, and I'm sure they're gonna
do the Barbie song, right?
We had a story about this.
I don't think that they are.
Remember, we talked about this?
Who sings it originally?
Aqua.
Aqua.
I think we should get them back together.
I know, but there was a story that said the song will not be used in the movie, period.
I mean, that's moronic.
I feel like Nikki Minaj could have done like a really cool new...
I'm a Barbie.
Like something cool like that.
I don't know.
I'm not an artist.
Just like
just throwing some stuff out there.
Like, I feel like super bass, like, her super bass era.
Her fans are literally called Barbs.
Like, no, I know.
That's why she's on the album.
No, of course, but like, she should have done,
like, honestly, Beyonce and Nikki Minaj on the Barbie song.
That would have been cool.
But we'll get new Barbie music.
I know, but, like, it's a classic for a reason.
I'm a Barbie girl
in a Barbie.
Yeah, honestly, it's so iconic.
Like, Life in Plastic, it's fantastic.
Just the song itself.
The lyrics.
Come on, Barbie, let's go.
Like, every lyric is.
Come on, Bobby, let's go party.
Uh, uh, oh, yeah.
Like, it's so good.
Yeah.
Huge mistake.
I'm sure there's reasons.
Yeah.
And they got their reasons.
Just like you.
What'd you do?
When you walked out of my life and you didn't have to.
What'd you send me?
Send me reeling.
in.
What can you do?
There's nothing I can do.
About what?
About you taking my heart and breaking it right into.
I love that man.
Love.
Like bullets.
It's been hard for me this week to not listen to Luke Holmes while I get ready because I'm like in my podcast era.
And I just, I miss him.
Well, I'm in my walking era.
I don't know if I told you about the, I walk now every day here and to, to and from.
Because you're free.
Because the laptop, I'm free of my laptop and I just have my purse with like lip gloss sunglasses chapstick a fan sucking candy got some rollos in there and I feel free as a bird so I am now listening to music when I walk what's your soundtrack my liked songs right now are the Luke Homes and Ed Sheeran song which is so good I think it's called Life Goes On
I actually forgot to add that to my liked have you been listening to Kelly Noka I know I'm fucking up I'm fucking up and one of her songs both of them are kind of like ballady and emo but like if you love Kelly like they're so powerful.
But one of them has a remix.
So if you need like a pet in your step.
Okay, okay.
Like you didn't mine.
And I've been listening to Next Thing You Know.
I love that song.
I haven't fallen into it yet, but I'm sure two years ago.
You, by the way.
In two years, I'll be playing in my car saying, have you heard this one?
No, it's like a song.
It's so sweet.
Like.
I heard him.
I've heard it before.
It's like, it goes viral on TikTok, but then I saw him perform it at the ACMs and I actually listened to all the words.
I was like Jordan Davis, right?
Yeah, I listened to all the words and it's so
like emotional.
Like Like you're gonna cry.
No, I know, but I'm still hung up on by dirt.
Bad sir.
Find the one you can't live without.
What'd you do?
Get me, let your ring hit the crowd.
Get me,
let your ring hit the crowd.
Maybe that's pregnancy, baby.
Do what you love and call it.
And what are you going to throw?
Throw a little money in the plate at church.
What are you going to send?
Send his prayers up and your roots down deep.
Adding the limbs to your family.
By the way, we interviewed him on the ACM red carpet.
And he's like, Oh, I just was watching your guys on TikTok getting ready for the thing.
He was like, You came up on my FYP.
I'm like, that makes me think, like, who else's FYP am I coming up on toast clips?
Like, so true.
Kylie?
You never know.
That's the beauty of TikTok.
Depends how much time she spends on it.
I always think about like celebrities who like some of them probably like mindlessly scroll TikTok and they just see like civilians.
Yeah, they see like you and Ben popping each other's pimples.
Isn't that exciting?
Yeah, I never thought of that.
That's all I think about.
Are you you ready for our next story?
Yeah.
Because the Kardashians premiered last night.
Yes.
I did not get a chance to watch it, but Claudia did.
She's going to do a mini recap and also talk about some of the biggest bombshells that came out from the episode, one in which being that Kim reacted to Kanye accusing her of cheating with Drake.
Yeah, so at the end of the episode, Kim like sat down with Chris and she had like had a really bad day.
And she's just like, I don't know why everyone like can't keep their shit together.
So we're like, I'm always the one who has to keep their shit together.
And she's just saying what we know, nothing new, just basically like,
you know, the kids one day will appreciate that I didn't say anything.
They get in the car and they want to listen to daddy's music, and I jam out with them.
And it's like so hard for me.
And I know I'm doing the right thing, but like, I'm also human.
And she said, like, I can take it when he comes for me, yada, yada.
But
he's been coming after Chris at this point.
And like, that's really hard for Kim.
She like feels this responsibility to protect everyone.
And that makes her want to fight back.
And Chris is like, you're fine.
You're fine.
but also what was interesting and I guess I didn't really think about he was going at the time that they're filming this, like he was going off just like kept bringing up her sex tape.
And she's like, you know, the way he is acting down the road, like the kids will see that and they will be far more embarrassed of the way he's acting than like of my sex tape, which I made when I was 18 and like was clearly a mistake.
Like it was, she had a really good head on her shoulders about it, but she's like,
her patience is wearing thin.
Yeah.
And she was like, you know, he keeps saying he's my protector.
He's my protector.
But like the whole time we were married, like he was the one perpetuating that rumor that I fucked like was having an affair with Drake during our marriage and that whole kiki, do you love me thing?
Like that was him.
So like what, how he can say he was my protector and now continue to say he's my protector is like, are you delusional?
Like you're not.
Yeah, she said the one that was supposed to protect me and still does interviews saying that they will be my forever protector is the one that's hurting me the most.
He was the one that started a rumor that I was hooking up with Drake, having an affair.
Our whole marriage, he accused me of that publicly.
I I really can't wrap my head around how he thinks he's a protector.
Yeah, no, it's just like, it's, it's that everyone has been there when you're just like arguing with someone who's not rational.
It's like, it's not, it's pointless.
Then it's like Kim's name being dragged through the mud.
And I hope Kim has like peace knowing.
Like during the times when Kanye has been like on his, you know, spiral, nobody really believes what he says.
So, you know, there's solace in knowing that.
Well, I think a lot of his fans do.
Like, but I think he has his own fans and Kim has her own fans.
And I think there are some people who are fans of both of them who have to, like, you know, within themselves, parse out, like, what they think is true.
But I think, like, his fans believe what he says, like, about her, but the, like, we're primarily Kim fans.
And I'm like,
we don't know the half of anything.
Yeah.
No, and like, the fact that she's like talking about this rumor about Drake means it's not true.
Like, if she had an affair with Drake, she wouldn't have brought it up, you know?
Well, she didn't say that she didn't.
Did she?
No, she called it a rumor.
Like, she didn't.
I don't think that she did.
Me neither.
But, um, but I think even if she did, say, but like, it's the fact that he keeps bringing it up.
Right.
That it doesn't die because.
Because he's bringing it up, whether or not it's true or false.
And that's the same with the sex tape.
I think, like, Kim gets so mad every time he brings up the sex tape.
Like, one, because, like, they have kids together and all the obvious reasons, but also because she's, and she had said, like,
every time you bring it, re-bring it up, it's like you remind people.
She, like, feels like she's made so much progress, like, as a businesswoman, as a lawyer, as a mom.
And she's gets far away from the sex tape thing that to the point where people for many years like didn't even think about it.
But now it's like you keep bringing it up, you remind people.
Yeah, agree.
But I also feel like she brings it up sometimes.
Like she, because I think it's so in the forefront for her, like on SNL, she was like bringing it up in her monologue.
And I just like, was like, we're, I moved on.
We're past it, yeah.
Well, I think she, like, is afraid of everyone talking about it, so she makes the joke first, especially at SNL.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I'm really excited to watch.
That's really sad.
Yeah.
It was like a crazy bombshell episode.
But was it enjoyable watching?
It was just great to see the girls back.
There's like something going on with Chloe.
And it's like, there's like, that's, there's an undercurrent too.
She's talking about she has this melanoma situation, which I think ends up being really serious.
But something really, I think, like very honest that she spoke about that.
I was shocked.
It's like a very vulnerable thing.
She's like, she's really having trouble at this point in the show, like connecting with her son.
She's like, nobody talks about this part of surrogacy.
And like, I wish somebody had.
Like, I didn't like fully, I kind of buried my head in the sand when she was pregnant, the surrogate.
And then it's like, I just go to the hospital and come home with a baby.
And it's, it's weird.
And, you know, Kim didn't experience this.
So I don't really have anyone to like commiserate with.
She's like, I wish more people spoke about.
Like, there's a weird element of surrogacy.
I thought it was like so brave because I think it's not similar, but similar to like a postpartum where like you can't connect with the baby and hers are obviously for different reasons, but she's going through something and she's like just not herself and she's so thin and like she is also dealing with this health thing and she's just not being her like fun Chloe self.
Yeah, but I also feel like if you like last season, she was already not in a great place and so yeah
to then go through a health situation and welcome a new baby and like not be starting out at a hundred, it can like really drain you.
Like they had this event and she sat next to James Corden and honestly I was like loving the James Corden.
He was being like so funny.
She loves him.
Yeah.
And like he was being so funny and she just like you could tell like the smile like the giggle like it was like just very like social like it wasn't it wasn't genuine no like she's really been struggling.
Yeah, no, I I felt for her deeply and Then like Courtney was going on and on about how like everyone in the family she said it in her interviews and then she repeated what she said to Chloe when they were having this one-on-one She was like I feel like the family is really good at you know celebrating each other and having fun together and lifting each other up But when the time comes for someone who's like going through something dark or grieving like we don't know how to be there for each other and I was like okay and then she repeated that like a couple days later to Chloe and Chloe was like what Chloe was like I feel like, one, that's not true.
I feel like I actually am so there for everyone.
Like it was just like a weird take that
I wonder, Chloe clearly disagreed with, and I wonder if everyone else disagrees with too.
I also feel like if anyone could speak to the family being there for you in a tough time, it would be Chloe.
Like, cause she's, one, there for everyone, but two, like actually,
she's been through, not to compare, but like the most and most recently.
And like, if she feels like her family is there and supporting her right now, like what instance is Courtney talking about where she didn't get that?
Right.
I felt like maybe that was Courtney's like a reflection of how Courtney felt, but not necessarily indicative of the whole family, you know?
But what has Courtney been going through or like needing support that she didn't get?
They struggled with fertility.
She opened up.
She's done with IVF.
They did three rounds.
She had frozen her eggs at 38 and 39.
Actually, I thought this was a good point that she makes.
Like everybody talks about egg freezing, like it's the safety net.
And nobody really talks about how like you can freeze your eggs and then hers didn't make it through the thawing process.
So it's like if it's spoken about like this foolproof safety net and that's what she had thought and she was like really you know sad to learn like her eggs didn't make it into embryos because they didn't survive the thawing process.
I didn't know I knew that embryos are more secure like if you freeze embryos versus eggs.
Yeah, but I didn't realize that like you could freeze your eggs and not have an egg.
Right.
So that's probably something she now she's at the place where she's like, you know what?
If God wants it, like we're just fucking all the time.
And if God wants it, it will happen.
But like, I'm not going to continue to do the hormones and take that toll on my body physically and mentally.
I feel like she had a really good head on her shoulders about the whole thing.
But I'm sure that was tough for her because I know like her and Travis really want to have a baby.
So she felt like in that situation.
And she wasn't referencing that directly, but you had said, like, what has she been through?
And like, you know what, you never know.
And that's something I think that was probably really tough on her.
Interesting.
But they're speaking about how like, they're being very open about how like Chloe and Kim are like the new Chloe and Courtney.
They've been saying that for years, though.
Yeah.
And they're like planning this day.
I think it'll be next week where it's like, Chloe and Courtney take calabases and they like do crazy things.
Chloe and Courtney.
Yeah, is that what I said?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Like they're trying to get their mojo back.
But then in the
trailer for next week, Courtney said something that was like, A, kind of mean, and like B, kind of delusional.
She was like,
you know, when we were younger, there was always this like very competitive nature between Kim and I, which I think was like natural and like very sisterly.
And I just don't think Kim has let that go.
Like I have.
And it's like, okay, sure, Courtney.
Like, okay.
And it's all about the Dolcheen Gabbana thing.
Got it.
That looks like the hottest tea that's coming out.
What we know is that Courtney's married already.
And this, where we're at, the wedding's over.
And Kim is designing.
They want to do like hero, the creative director for a season, design and walk and like plan the show.
And it will be, I think,
five months after her wedding.
The collection won't come out.
until nine months, but the show will be five months after her wedding.
Okay.
And Kim is having reservations about it.
Chris is like, you have to do it.
It's such an amazing opportunity.
And Kim is like, I know it's an amazing opportunity, but like, I am feeling a certain way about it.
And I don't think Courtney knows yet, because of Courtney, yeah.
Yeah.
And I don't think Courtney knows yet.
Okay, so I didn't realize that Kim like recognizes first that there's a weirdness to it.
Right, but it's also interesting they gave backstory.
The whole relationship between the girls, the family, and the Gabbanas is through Chris,
not Kim.
Not Courtney.
No, not Courtney.
I never thought it was Courtney.
I thought it was Chris.
I would just assume.
I mean, I thought it was Kim.
No, I thought it was Courtney.
Kim had never worked with D ⁇ G before.
Yeah, but Chris was always going.
Like, there was like a, like, there was something.
There was, yeah, it was something, but, like, when Chris went to the Altamoda
in Venice, like, Courtney and Travis were there.
Yeah, but
Chris had gone so fucking hard to talk about these people.
Chris had gone many years in a row before that.
Okay.
She was always going to Florence with Simon, like, always.
Okay.
So I could have guessed if you had asked, like, maybe and I sat down and thought about it, it being Chris makes the most sense, which really means the relationship belongs to Chris.
and belongs to all the sisters equally.
So, if Chris is blessing it, but she is, she's really encouraging Kim to do it, then I think it's kosher.
Okay, I didn't know it was Chris's, I thought it was Courtney's.
Like, Courtney kind of brought like DNG to the family and the family to DNG, and then like they plucked Kim from that, and that kind of was no.
I would have to assume that, like, when Kim, when Courtney was looking for someone for her wedding to design, and like be, they went through their roster of connects.
Chris brought Dolce to the table, and Courtney liked it.
Yeah, so it's Chris's relationship to dole out.
Okay, that changes things for me.
It does, and I think it makes a better case for Kim.
100%.
100%.
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Our fifth and final story, a little Vanderpump adjacent news before we get into the recap of Reunion Part 1.
Andy Cohen crashes a Vanderpump Worlds reunion watch party and takes shots with fans.
So Andy joined in on the camaraderie and surprised a group of fans watching the highly anticipated reunion in New York City on Wednesday.
He posted on his Instagram story saying, I got an invite to crash a Vanderpump Worlds viewing party, which is like a block from my house.
So he and his co-host John Hill from Sirius XM Radio Andy grabbed dinner at Via Corota before deciding to crash the bash.
He said, okay, we're doing it.
I just want to say this is just going to be a drop-by, but we'll see.
I also would like to see if they have any desserts.
Yeah, they showed up.
I felt like they had smoked pot before because they're walking up.
Andy Instagram storied the whole thing.
He's like, I hope they have dessert.
I'm so hungry.
And John is like, I'm starving, but they just came from dinner.
Well, maybe they didn't get something sweet after.
And that's something that is really important.
When I have a dinner, I need something sweet.
A sweet treat.
I need a sweet treat to top it off.
Oh, 100%.
But I just read Andy's book.
and he pretty much like smokes pot every night.
So he was definitely like munchying.
Got it.
But they were also just like having a good time.
He brought a bottle of
of pre-made Negronis and buzzed the buildings bell.
Um, then they women like screamed when well, the girl, the girl whose apartment it was, I think she knew that Andy was going to show up, so she opened the bell for him and like they quietly like trotted down the hall.
And the girls were freaking.
It wasn't like a crazy watch party, there was maybe three or four or five people, and they were freaking.
And Andy like beelined for the table.
He was like, Do you have any desserts?
Yeah, they did shots together, had an overall good time.
That's really crazy.
No, it was really sweet.
I think there's like a lot of people who've interacted with Andy who would say like he's not like super nice.
Like, I think people, like, he's one of those celebrities that has like, like, not, you know, great, like, rep.
Okay.
Um, but this is really endearing.
I think
it's like where and when you catch him, like, if he's, if you're like, and how, and how you approach him.
Like, I feel like in his personal life, he's probably like a really nice guy, but like, if he's working and someone's coming up to him, like, maybe he's not the nicest, or maybe on a bad day.
And I feel like you said he talks about it in his book.
Like, he maybe has like a short fuse and is quick to like be a little
rude.
No, but also I think he's a rude person.
He's the head of like the Bravo universe and Bravo fans can be like very overbearing and maybe like, you know, invade invasive a little bit.
So he definitely deals with a lot.
I wasn't saying that he's like a mean guy.
But I feel like when you catch him in the right environment, somewhere where he wants to be like, he went to these people,
you're going to get a good Andy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was very sweet.
But I don't think he's like 100% rude 100% of the time.
No, no.
I also think we got a good Andy the day of the the reunion.
I think he was like loving that like this was going to be like one of the most watched reunions of all time.
Everybody really showed up to the reunion last night, like wanting to leave their mark.
And it ended up causing a little bit too much of chaos.
Agreed.
Let's get into the reunion.
That's exactly what I thought, too.
Like everyone wanted to speak.
Everyone had their one-liners.
Everyone's upset and thinks that they're...
The most the most upset.
They're like James being like, you were with my ex-fiancé.
And it's like, I forgot that James and like that element of it and that James and Tom Sandoval were friends.
Like everyone just wanted their moment in the sun and like I just wish everyone could have calmed down a little.
And I swear, I feel like that's what we said the day that they were filming.
That everyone was like on their best.
Like
everyone was just like too hyped up.
And it's, they're going to film for 10 hours.
You will say your piece, like, but just let people speak.
No, I will say, I probably, I think the person on the best behavior was either Katie or Sheena.
Like they were the only people who didn't just like interject so much.
James and Lala were really funny, but like towards the end, they were really annoying me.
Like most of the conversations that were being had were actually not about them.
And if we could just let like Schwartz, Sandoval, Ariana, and like a little bit of Katie, if we could let them get in and like figure it out, like that would be great.
Even Lisa was like talking more than she needed to.
And I know she probably felt she needed to be like peacemaker and defend, not defend, but like help Tom Sandoval out a little, a little.
I actually did appreciate that because everyone screaming at one person is not interesting.
It's not interesting.
It's not helpful.
Not letting him respond.
I will say it was funny though when he like first, the the first thing he said, he started to cry.
Oh my God, hysteria.
And James was like, shut up.
Like that was truly funny.
But I kind of like went downhill from there.
It was a little too chaotic.
I agree.
And there are moments in reunions when like it gets to that place and it's so chaotic and everyone's screaming over each other and Andy yells and everyone calms down.
But from start to finish, Lisa was like, we're going to be here for 10 hours.
It was the very beginning.
For it to be like that from the start was like a little overwhelming.
Yeah, hard to follow.
It's like, who should I be listening to when everyone's talking over each other and disappointing because they're starting to like fumble the situation a little bit.
But I actually enjoyed, strangely, because we said so many times we don't want to talk about the rest of the season.
Yes.
When they segued into conversations about the rest of the season, we were able to have like a normal reunion conversations.
And also everything is like Scandoval adjacent.
Like Sheena.
No, now it's all layered.
It's all layered.
But I felt like hearing from Sheena was really interesting about.
I feel bad for Sheena.
I feel so bad for Sheena.
She probably feels so stupid.
Yeah.
And next week, when she said in the trailer for next week that she's trusted her husband in bed with Raquel, like
crazy.
These people are fucking crazy.
Like that is that for first of all, she's Jezebel.
Yeah.
But even if she were like the person that you thought that she was, like, what are you doing?
Like, why is your husband in bed with your friend?
And I want to say in defense of Sheena, like, I actually feel like everybody minimizes like the history of the group.
People really do forget like how Sheena was such an outsider for so long.
And I do now really understand why she felt so protective of Raquel.
Of course, she didn't know Raquel was going to end up being this Jezebel.
I understand why she maybe saw a little bit of herself in Raquel.
And
the way that she just, even Lala being like, bully is a strong word.
No, actually, bully is the perfect word.
Like they were so mean to her.
I do understand Sheena a little bit more after last night.
And I don't blame her as much for vehemently taking Raquel's side.
It really wasn't about Raquel versus Katie.
It was about like her own trauma.
Right.
And I feel like historically, she's always taken the side of the new girl.
Like even when Ariana came in, like she had her back.
When Lala came in, Sheena had her back.
When Charlie came in, Sheena cozied up to her.
She also always has her weird other intentions
going on.
But I think the core of it is that she wants to protect new girls against this like
mean girl mentality that she experienced.
But I do think in certain situations, it's like a phantom mentality that she's creating based on what happened to her because not everything is the same thing as what happened to her.
Yeah, I just, and Andy did ask this, there is a conversation worth having about the hypocrisy in the group, of course, as it pertains to Tom Sandible.
And the fact that, like, nobody would hear anything, like, about, like, anytime anything was brought up from seasons past, whether it's James and Kristen, whether it's Lala and James, like.
Whether it was about cheating or not, like it was automatically shut down by the group.
And there really is a conversation worth having.
And you, you need the context of the group.
And everyone would just be, that, I was 21.
Like, no, actually.
No, the thing is, there is a scale, and what Tom and Raquel did is the worst of it, but like, other people have landed elsewhere on the scale.
But I do think that you could, like, say, yeah, I made a mistake, but if it's a one-time thing versus like a seven-month affair, like there is so much worse.
A mistake versus like a conscious, diabolical
psychotic situation.
It's it's different.
But yeah, no, we're not all angels sitting here, but like, you're actually the devil.
And I really wish everything had just slowed down a bit because, like, you know, there was so
Tom Sandoval told Andy the day before that Schwartz didn't know until January.
And Schwartz said, no, you told me, remember, in August.
So I think they're both, unfortunately, like they're both kind of telling the truth because
Schwartz didn't know that they were having an affair until January.
But Schwartz did know in August that they had sex ones.
No, but Tom Sandoval like intentionally lied to Andy, like manipulated language.
Yeah, but there wasn't an affair to know about in August.
Like when did.
But they fucked.
I know, but like that's not them, that one time fuck, like that, which is horrible, is not
the thing that we're almost mad about, which is the seven-month affair right under your girlfriend's.
Yeah, but Tom Sandoval, like, he knew because he knew that they had fucked.
And then he had, Schwartz, excuse me, he knew that they had fucked, and then he had said that thing to Katie.
Like, he had his suspicions, right?
So, Sandoval did lie, and so I just feel like if the whole group, like, slowed down a little bit, we could have gotten more out of this.
But I do think he told him once in August and once in January, and they're talking about two separate things.
Yeah, I just wish everyone had slowed down.
Like overall for the whole reunion.
Yeah.
And just like let Sandoval speak, even though he is a worm with a mustache.
Like let him bury himself.
Yeah.
Let him.
I did kind of love the concept of having a camera on Raquel, even though she didn't say anything.
Her facial reaction, she's like, was like eating it up.
She's like obsessed.
And also she's like liking hearing her boys.
The boys, both of them.
Yeah, like talk about her.
Like, oh, I want to know what he thinks about me.
Like, yeah.
No, it was diabolical.
Yeah.
And I honestly, it was fine.
It was a good episode, but we need to hear from her.
I feel like everything, even the sit-down with Ariana and Tom, like, we've heard all of this now between Watch Rebins Live, all the podcasts.
I, we have not heard from Raquel.
No.
And that is what I need.
Yeah.
I need a one-on-one with Raquel.
Yeah, because you know when she comes on, everyone's going to be yelling at her.
I know.
And it's like, honestly, she deserves to be yelled at.
She's the devil for sure.
But can we hear?
Like, I'm curious.
Yeah.
I really need everyone to calm the fuck down.
No, I know.
It's,
it's too much.
And we knew it would, it would be.
Everyone was just really James and Lala.
And it was great at first, but at the end, it got tired.
Coming for everyone, including Lisa.
Yeah, no, and like, just like speak when spoken to, because anytime someone asked Lala a question, like when Andy asked Lala about,
just, he asked a random question that, you know.
about Randall leaving their house.
And then Lala actually made a great comparison between Tom and Randall, Randall, like how you can never get him to stay home.
But then once shit hit the fan, like I totally get him to leave the house.
And I thought that was so interesting.
So it's like, just your time will come to say your piece.
Just wait.
Yeah, but I fear, I mean, this is part one.
I feel it's going to stay this chaotic the whole time.
Yeah.
And I don't know why
they've done so many reunions.
Like, don't you know, like, just how it works.
It's always best.
It's a slow burn.
Like, let it get there to come out so hot and not.
I couldn't hear anything.
It was just chaos.
And like James getting up, like it was a little performative, you know, but I love him.
Yeah, but he is really angry.
And I guess you have to think about the fact that like Raquel was his fiance, Tom, and Tom was his friend.
And Tom paid for their engagement.
Right.
And I wish they dived into that a little bit more.
That is like one of the great wonders of the world to me.
Like, why the fuck did he pay for that?
Yeah.
Also, why isn't something about her open yet?
Because like on the end of the season, it felt like they could open in a month.
Well, they said end of May, and that's now, so we'll see.
But I haven't been seeing like promotional materials.
Like, we're open, like, wouldn't they have opening day?
Like an event, yeah.
You know what I mean?
Right.
Let me check the Instagram.
Like, I want them to open.
Me too, because there's a lot of momentum.
People won't care about this for that long.
Yeah, no, and I thought it was really smart of them to start selling merch.
And I guess they put that money into the business.
So smart.
And then they didn't have to get maybe investors
coming 2023.
In the reunion, they said May.
And they haven't posted since March 6th.
That's a wasted opportunity.
Yeah, especially since the point of the shop was to be like a low-lift sort of thing.
Right, Right.
So they got to get,
they got to get open.
I thought really, I wouldn't say anyone came off super well or super good.
I think Schwartz came off really bad.
But this is kind of like the,
I'm always looking for this.
The reckoning.
Thank you.
The reckoning, like years in the making for Tom Schwartz.
And like, I'm honestly here for it.
Yeah.
Maybe even more so than I'm here for the Tom Sandoval reckoning.
Like I literally hate Tom Schwartz.
Right, because there's nothing ambiguous about this Tom Sandoval reckoning.
Like it's bad is bad you know yeah but with schwartz it's like now i'm seeing everything differently
and
it's nice to watch him get his his justice come up and though i thought he made a good comparison like the whole season i'm like schwartz and markel making out is so wrong like so bad whatever but then when he explained the situation like If Katie had done it, like they're in the same house,
Schwartz wants the divorce, blah, blah, blah.
And then Katie goes and makes out with Peter, like nobody would care.
No, but I think that's because Peter is really not in the group.
Like, if he went out, if she went out and made out with, the thing is, there's no other single guys, like, to compare James, like, for example, it wouldn't be a big deal.
Yeah, that's true.
It's because Peter was not an accurate.
Peter is not Raquel.
Raquel is a main character on the show.
Yeah.
Okay.
But I did think he did provide color.
Like, he really was, in a sense,
I hate to use this word, but like a little bit of the victim in the divorce.
I didn't realize like that his brother still had cancer.
Like he was just, he was going through a lot.
Yeah.
And then he got divorced.
And we know he didn't want the divorce.
We want, we know Katie did.
So like, yes, he was like the injured party here, but he still agreed to this agreement.
No, and he, and he broke the agreement.
So wrong is wrong.
And just for a kiss, like for literally nothing.
Some harlot who was fucking your best friend.
Right.
So honestly, like it was exciting and it was, you know, funny at times, but I don't feel like we made really any major progress in the conversations because everybody was just like whiling out.
Yeah.
It was a little frustrating.
It was.
Hopefully, next week things could calm down more.
Sheena breaks down next week.
I think.
Apparently, there's a big bombshell that comes out.
Really?
And I don't know what it is.
A lot of people were speculating that Raquel is pregnant.
You don't think that's true?
A lot of people, like, you know, there were those rumors about Brock
and Raquel.
I don't think that's it.
I don't know what it is.
I don't know if the bombshell is about Sheena.
I don't know if the bombshell is about who the other person that Tom admitted to cheating with.
I don't know.
And I don't know if it comes out in part two or three, but apparently there's a big bombshell.
Damn.
I don't think the bombshell is what's going to make Sheena cry though.
I think that Sheena might be going through something in her personal life outside of all of this and it's just a different conversation.
That's right.
Maybe something fertility related or.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know either.
But there is a big bombshell.
Yeah.
And somehow Sheena's apartment.
Sheena and Lala bought houses in Palm Springs.
Oh, wait, that was an interesting conversation about Sheena, Lala, Katie.
And Katie was 100%, right?
Like, if this roles were reversed and Katie was friends with someone that Lala wasn't getting along with, how Lala would, you know, be at 100 being like, you're dead to me.
And so that's all Katie said.
I thought Katie was right.
And it's true.
Like Katie and Sheena have legitimate beef.
Like Sheena championed this girl making out with her ex-husband.
And like Lala is the type of person that demands like 100% loyalty from all of her friends.
So like Katie's allowed to be a little fucking miffed about it.
No, but then at that point, I kind of like did feel bad for Sheena in that moment because like I felt like Lala was like minimizing their friendship to explain to Katie.
She was like, I mean, it's really just because of the kids.
And it's like, okay, well, like, we're also friends.
And it's like, and it's not.
They literally want to all live together.
No, I know.
And that's fine.
But, like, she was really minimizing the friendship just to, like, make Katie feel better.
And like, Sheena's just sitting there being like, yeah.
I felt bad for her.
Yeah, but like, Sheena needs to make it right with Katie.
And she has to, like, go through the...
Motions of accepting like what she did was wrong.
Like, she was completely wrong in that situation.
Yeah, and I don't think Katie's like easily forgiving people at this point, but I do think her and Sheena like need to make it right.
Yeah, I don't think she's easily forgiving people, especially people who like, what is there to salvage between her and Gina?
They literally have not been able to get along for 10 years.
Like, yeah.
Maybe they're just not meant to be friends.
No, that's true.
That's true.
Some people like just don't get along.
And that's fine.
It's because everyone's so different.
Like personality.
By the way, the Joe stuff was weird.
So I didn't realize like her and Tom like were fucking at some point, Schwartz.
Yes.
And then they went on like a trip with Raquel and Joe.
Like that's so weird.
Yeah.
No, there was like the more we unpack, and that's why I wish everyone had just fucking slowed down.
The more we unpack, like the more guilty Tom Schwartz and Tom Sandoval are.
Like it's not just the affair.
Like it was very layered.
And if everybody just calmed down, we would really see
all the shit that they did to hide this.
Yeah.
And all the weird things they did.
Yeah.
Like why wasn't Ariana invited on that trip?
It was before they found out about the affair.
And it's Joe Sandoval, Schwartz, and Raquel.
I feel like I read somewhere about that trip that it was like the Toms went on a trip, Schwartz invited Joe,
and Joe came and brought Raquel.
Or Kelly crashed a trip, and then it turns into like this double date.
No, and the fact that, like, now we're getting the timeline, like, at lamping, like, Schwartz and Sandy had known and they had already fucked.
Um, weird.
Like, I just, I need to re-watch everything now, you know?
Yeah, like, when it gives her that big a hug, and when Sand, when Schwartz is like, I know Raquel's type, taken,
layered, yeah,
these people were so brave, like, yeah, and the fact that, like, what Allie saw at the Abbey was the night and was exactly what everyone was scared scared it might be and i was like how were they dancing and it was the night they started but like were they grinding they must have been like so i i wish she would describe the type of dance or was it like maybe allie will come out and explain right were they doing the cha-cha yeah or sometimes like you dance it's like you know pointing yeah you can dance with another person of the audience
but are you like grinding legs between legs you know yeah yeah it must have been nefarious but why didn't she say so why didn't she say they were grinding at the abbey i don't know if people say grinding anymore that's why it's important it's important yeah of of course.
I think Allie does come out at some point, right?
I actually blew this case wide open.
But I also don't see Tom Standoval as a grinder.
I do see him as more of like a jumping dancer.
No, I see him as like kind of like sexy, slow dancing, like old couples at weddings who like really still get it on, you know, and after the kids go to bed, they're just like, like their hips are like touching and they're like swaying.
That's what I see him as.
You know, I think he would describe himself as like an old soul.
I don't know.
I kind of see him as like jumping around, pointing, like not really connecting.
Oh, yeah, when he goes to Coachella.
Not really connecting.
Yeah.
But we're not not limited.
But him and Raquel have a deep connection, so probably.
Yeah.
So I can't wait for next week.
I'm just loving this journey.
It was so exciting.
You know, eight o'clock watching with commercials.
Like, it was very exciting.
I know it was sad not to have a Watch What Happens Live after to decide.
What the fuck?
Wait, that was weird.
They've never done Watch What Happens Live after reunions before.
Like they don't have cast members on to talk about the reunion because like we're talking.
Oh, but I feel like they've been capitalizing on every inch of this.
Yeah.
They could have even had like two lay people on to talk about the reunion, not even cast members.
I was like, like, Ready, and then it was Summerhouse Martha's Vineyard.
I'm like, oh, cool, but where's Andy?
Yeah, hmm,
interasante.
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