Dear Tom (Raquel's Version): Thursday May 18th, 2023

Good morning, Millennials, and welcome back to the toast.

Happy Thursday.

Hope everyone's having a great day

thus far.

Thus far, great day.

Great thus day.

Day far.

Right.

I'm so glad we got that kind of like cleared up.

Yeah, every permutation.

Though I know you're not really having a great day thus far.

I'm running late.

I'm so sorry.

Literally, I like did a panel this morning.

No big deal.

Yeah, just like kind of like a huge convention, you know, talking about about the business of podcasting, business of social media.

What was the convention?

Ad week, Colin, social media week.

Oh, cool.

Yeah.

Cool.

Yeah, no, and there was tons of toasters in attendance.

My

I see the agency, agency toasters.

Like they're alive and well.

Yeah.

No, we have every

agency community.

I believe that.

Yeah.

And it was great and it went so well and literally took me almost two hours to get home.

You know when you're like a fucking road raging, like I was going to put my hands around someone's neck and choke them out.

And it was going to be the fucking crossing guard in Queens.

Like,

what are you doing?

What are you doing?

Like, if I seem a little on edge today, that's fucking why.

Oh my God, I was like, you need to get it out of your system.

I was crawling out of my motherfucking skin in the back of this motherfucking car.

You're going to have to get it out of your system now.

We honestly continue to like talk about it until it's not.

I don't want to talk about it.

Like, it's seriously trauma.

I don't want to talk about it.

Okay.

But I'm just saying, if I seem a little on edge today, it's because I literally almost choked a person.

Okay.

And that person's not going to be me.

No, no, no.

It would have been the crossing guard in Queens.

Great.

But you're not feeling chokey now.

You don't want to send someone to the chokey?

I don't want to send someone to the chokey.

I don't know.

We'll see.

Because you like it.

Because I like it.

Well, you look great.

So that's a good happenstance from the event.

I was really like excited to come on here and be delightful.

But, you know, life gets in the way when you live in New York City.

Yeah.

So we're recording late today.

The episode will be up late.

Sorry, guys.

But we have so much to do today.

We are all caught up on Vanner Pump Royals.

We watched it all.

I actually am all caught up on Real Housewives of New Jersey.

Cool.

Did you see that Bo Didle?

It's like the center of the drama.

I saw that in page 60.

Because there's a lot of talk about private investigators.

And Louie like made an offhand remark in the finale.

He's like, I know things about all of you guys, Bo Didle.

Just basically implying that he

hired an investigator for us.

And then on Watch Rapids Live, he cleared it up.

He was like, I was just saying stuff.

And then Bodito said he did not work with Louie and investigate housewives.

Right.

So why the fuck did you bring it up?

Like, it was so weird.

Louie's so fucking toxic and weird.

He's like crazy.

So he's certifiable.

And honestly, before the finale party, which was like this crazy explosive party, he was like me.

Like right now with like he was fucking activated about some shit.

Like his face was so fucking red.

He was like ready to choke someone.

And the party hadn't even started.

How was the season?

I'm not going to lie.

I did skip with some of the early episodes.

Like it was, it was like back to the T te but i i apparently like melissa and theresa are irreparable like and i wanted to know what happened and i've seen so much chatter online like team tree and i'm like oh okay i've been team melissa this whole time but like let's see what's up i'm still team melissa of course you are no it's people are insane no but you typically don't agree with we typically don't agree with the masses on housewives but then i did a poll on my instagram and it was i was just genuinely curious i'm like are people team tree now and it was 75 melissa so i just think maybe like that's your fans yeah that's true That's true.

Maybe I like,

you know, logical energy.

Yeah, but as discussed, like the Bravo fan.

It's all over the place.

Can be wrong.

They do buy tickets to Tom Sandoval's and the most extras.

Right.

Speaking of Real Housewives, I wanted to tell you about this event I went to last night for Lemmy, the

gummy vitamin company that Courtney Kardashian started with.

Simon, they hosted like an event to celebrate the fact that they're being sold in Ulta.

And I got seated next to Uba.

I saw on your Instagram.

Who is one of the new Real Housewives of New York?

And, you you know, I don't want to be a freak.

Like, obviously, like, I knew who she was.

She was like, Uba.

I'm like, oh, nice to meet you, I'm Claudia.

And then we like started chit-chatting.

We like talk the whole time.

And then by the end, I could be like, yeah, bitch, I know.

Like, I know everything.

She like actually made me want to watch the show.

She's a delight.

Like, she's so funny.

She's an amazing story.

I couldn't believe when she told me she's 40.

I literally thought she was 18.

Like, she's stunning.

You would have thought she's like at the height of her modeling career.

I mean, just a real delight.

And she was so,

we had like a deep convo, you know?

Yeah.

She is very religious, but she was saying she eats halal.

And I was telling her how I eat kosher.

And she's like, I eat at kosher restaurants pretty much exclusively because kosher food is considered halal.

And she was like, have you been to Pashrami Queen?

I'm like, have I been to Pashrami Queen?

She's like, I got a sandwich air every day.

Like, she was just so cool.

And she actually really made me want to watch a show.

And she was like, telling me, she was like getting me hyped about it.

She's like, it's really good.

Okay.

And she really is like so fabulous that I'm like, well, maybe the group is fabulous.

Like she was oozing just like fabulosity and beauty and glamour.

Well, last night during banner pump rolls there was a commercial for new housewives and like you said it was just like them smiling there was no footage but it was giving like season one real housewives of new york just like here's the cast and then literally right after i saw that i saw uba on your instagram story and that's how i knew who she was and we shared a cab home like we're like best friends like she was like let's go do dinner and i didn't know if like she meant it but like i'm gonna be following up for like dinner plans at pashrami queen literally literally it was just it was fabulous like i was just not expecting expecting to like make a new best friend.

Oh, I'm so happy for you.

We really connected on a deep level.

Like, my half of the table, like, we got deep.

We were talking about like religion.

There was another girl there who was Jewish and Israeli.

So we were just like getting deep.

That's so great.

Yeah.

We were just kind of like holding court at the end of the table, you know?

That's so great.

And how was the rest of the event?

It was fabulous.

How was the satchel?

The food.

I heard that Snatchler was there.

Satchel was there.

Satchel was in attendance.

Satchel had to go to another.

thing.

So she like left kind of early, which kind of opened opened me up to like, opened my heart up to Uba.

Like, yeah.

You know, when you get to go, it's such a privilege to get to go to these events, like, with a built-in plus one, because Margo's obviously like an influencer.

So, you know, people really show up to these things.

It's a see the dinner.

It's not a free-for-all.

People show up by themselves, and it could be hard and have to put yourself out there.

But having a built-in satch is amazing, but it is a crutch because you could be clicky.

We were, you know, we're the worst.

And once she left, I felt like, you know, I gotta, I gotta do my thing.

And I opened my heart up to receive love from Uba.

That's beautiful.

Yeah.

Oh, and Uba hasn't known Taylor Strecker forever.

So I felt like that was like a good

starting conversation.

Like, hey, like, I know Taylor.

And she was telling me how she knew Taylor when she was married.

I didn't know Taylor when she was married.

She was like,

she was just explaining to me.

She was like two different Taylors.

Like, it was, I actually, like, I was like jealous that she knew Taylor Strecker.

Like, I don't know that part of Taylor.

Yeah.

She was like, it was so crazy.

That's crazy.

I know.

That's like when we watched her old vlogs.

Exactly.

Tay TV.

Check it out.

So it was really a fabulous night out with the girlies.

And then I ran home.

I was like, I'm going to leave early and just run.

But I was having such a nice time and the food was so good.

I was like, why should I run?

And then I did end up running home, but I stayed like a good amount of time.

And we watched Randall Primperls.

And Ben was like, oh, I want to go to sleep.

I'm like, shut up.

And he was up all day.

Zach was like, do you know what tonight is?

I was like, yeah.

We were so excited to watch.

YouTube TV, like I rapped out last night at the second half of Watch What Happens Live.

I googled, I like looked on Twitter and I think it was because of the nba game that was happening like andy said it was because of ariana i know um and then i gave up and i went to sleep so i might have missed the latter half of convo it was fine honestly it was it you know andy he like q a q a q a there's no rapid fire there's no real conversation ever i watched rapids live and that's probably my biggest pet peeve with it having said that last night's episode i just needed answers and it was literally question it was like a toss back question answer question answer and you know what it was actually a good episode yeah

i enjoyed what i watched up until it gave out.

Has anybody ever said or thought that Ariana Maddox looks like Serena Kerrigan?

Because when she walked out, I was like, oh my God, it looked, I literally thought it was Serena Kerrigan.

Good call.

Right.

And maybe it was just the hair up.

Serena always wears her hair up like that with the two pieces, but I was just like, oh my God.

And I was just with Serena.

I was like, they do not look alike.

They do not look alike.

Like I look alike.

I'm like, I look alike.

So we've got a great show

programming update.

I think a lot of people predicted this.

We're going to move to your toasters that we missed yesterday because of the construction.

Let's do it tomorrow when it's like low-key.

Today, I need to just catch up.

Like, we need to just chat.

Yeah.

And it's already late.

That would make the episode go up later.

So we'll do it tomorrow.

And I feel good about that.

I feel good about it on a Friday.

I feel good about that too.

I just hope everyone whose quandaries are waiting, like, they can wait one more day.

Yeah, hopefully there's nothing urgent.

Like, timely.

Yeah.

Yeah.

How was your night?

My night was.

Look at me over here just talking about myself.

So unlike me.

My night was lovely.

It was low-key.

Did you watch Vanderprim Pearls Live with commercials?

Yes.

Most like we started maybe like eight minutes in.

We paused a few times.

Try sand had to go out.

Of course we did.

So we watched some of the commercials, which was actually nice.

I got to see that Bravo commercial, the Uber One commercial that played every five minutes.

The commercials like weren't bad.

Somebody was saying like it gave me time to like digest the last minutes of content that I just saw because like I don't know what I'm gonna say or the first story is gonna be obviously a recap of the finale and all the news that's come out.

I don't know what I have to say about it because it was just a lot.

Like it wasn't like, oh, the tea was spilled.

It wasn't.

It was just emotional.

It was, It felt wrong to be watching such things.

I understand what you mean.

You know, I don't have a hot take to share.

Yeah, no, me neither.

I just like could not believe what I was watching.

I know.

That

it happened.

That, you know, they have to go and have these conversations now.

That we're seeing them.

It seems so personal.

I really was just like in awe.

Yeah, I did see somebody on Twitter point out how like the first before Scandivall broke, like the first couple episodes this season, the sponsors, like the commercials were like literally

like diet pills, like literally fraudulence.

And literally, it was like Clorox.

It was the best of the best.

Uber Eats last night, like premium Super Bowl placement.

Yeah, because if I'm an advertiser, I want to buy an ad on the finale of Nander Pump Rules.

But you know who got an ad in?

Who?

Shannon Bedora's little tincture company.

Did she?

When I was fast-forwarding, I saw her face.

QBC.

You know how she does her ads.

Yeah.

No, but not QBC.

You know, she does her little tiny bits.

The tinctures.

Yeah.

Are they not sold on QBC?

That's something else?

That was when she was doing meals, right?

A frozen meals, yeah.

So, yeah, she has her little tincture.

Like, I saw her face when I was scrolling.

So she got an ad.

I love the word tincture.

I know.

I don't think I've ever taken a tincture, but I love a tincture.

I think you should take a tincture, and I think it should be Shannon's tincture.

I think maybe you should buy me a tincture.

I think that I will, so you could leave it in the studio and never open it.

Literally.

Literally.

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Okay, our first story, Vanner Pump Rules recap.

We're going to talk about the episode and then there's some like news stories of things that people have said.

Also, allegedly it came out yesterday that they broke up.

Right, but then Ariana addressed that on the show.

But let's just go with what we saw last night, the Vanner Pump Rules finale, Scandival, starting two days after that Watch What Happens live episode, two days after Ariana found the video on Tom's phone, camera started filming.

There were a few moments I was actually really moved by.

Okay.

First, Ariana telling us that Lisa offered her a place to stay.

That was very sweet.

Yeah.

Ariana showing up at Lisa's house and just kind of like collapsing in her arms.

Like this episode actually really endeared me to Lisa Vanderpump.

And I kind of understood her role.

Her role in the show has...

Seemed kind of irrelevant in recent years.

Like nobody really works at the restaurant, but she really is this like maternal, wise figure.

And I actually ended up like really enjoying her presence on last night's episode.

I also was really endeared by the conversation,

not really conversation, but just Aria, Sheena sharing the anecdote about how this is so hard for her, you know, breaking up with Sandoval, obviously.

And I was like, okay, sure, whatever, Sheena.

But then she was like, no, you know, we've been doing this for so long.

And in the beginning, you really forget, like, nobody wanted Sheena around.

They really tried to ice her out of the show.

I was watching this morning while I was getting ready.

They were playing old episodes on Bravo.

They were so fucking mean to her, those girls, like, and like ruthlessly, like really evil.

And when they were at the upfronts, this big event, they were like these new starlets.

And Sandoval really made it a point to include her on the carpet.

Like, I actually was moved by that.

And I thought she wasn't being dramatic, like crying over her relationship with Sandoval.

I didn't think she was being dramatic.

And I actually thought it was really necessary for Sheena to have a breakdown.

given what we saw all season as her blind defense of

Raquel against Katie, who now like Ariana is experiencing on a much larger level exactly what Katie experienced with Schwartz and Raquel when like everybody made her like feel so crazy.

And so I actually really felt like, I didn't even realize this, but that Sheena needed to have like this moment of just like

a complete reversal of of how she feels about raquel and how she feels about sandball considering she was so wrong and i felt like in her conversation with sandball like like what she was saying was very real and i appreciated how hard it was for her yeah i also appreciated like brock taking summer to the park and getting out of town you know yeah and being like you put us in a bad position bro i go yeah here's her package i here's your package i also like not brock thinking that sandball brought them a gift and he was like no he's outside um brock was on watch happens live in the audience.

And Andy was like, I love your haircut.

He really does look so good.

He does look so good.

I'm here for it.

Yeah, I'm here for him in general.

And at this stage, like, I'm obviously here for Sheena, but just watching this whole season back, like,

it did not look good for her.

No, she looked really stupid.

Wrong on every count.

Yeah, like every hill she died on, except maybe the hill with like Katie and the wedding.

But every other hill, but even that one stemmed from Raquel.

But yes, and that she even overplayed with her hand with saying like, you can't come to the preferred pool.

I actually don't think she overplayed her hand.

Like, I know what we know now.

Like, Katie didn't just decide to take a vacation.

Like, Katie had to go.

It was a cast trip.

Like, she had to go.

She had no choice.

But, that's not for she knows.

I don't think she's going to say, like, you can't come to the preferred pool.

Like, you don't own this hotel.

I know, but, like,

she shouldn't come to the preferred pool.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, she shouldn't want to go.

Right.

But she shouldn't.

She doesn't need to go.

She shouldn't be kicked off the premises.

Like, yeah.

Yeah, no.

And sending Raquel was obviously like not the greatest idea.

Right.

So, other points in the episode that were highlights, the one minute we got of James Kennedy, like I wish we got more.

He's so funny.

It's crazy how James and Lala really weren't in the episode that much considering like on social media, they were some of the loudest voices.

Yeah, but I guess like as it pertains to the storyline, like they're really like level C.

Like it's like Tom Ariana and Raquel, the core.

Then it's like really Katie, Schwartz, Sheena.

Yes.

Then it's everyone else.

Well, that's just like James and Lala, right?

Right.

Yeah, except for like James is Raquel's ex.

Yeah.

And Lala is the one who's been like pushing this narrative.

Lala is the one who was right about her.

Yeah.

No, for sure.

They really weren't in a lot, but that scene at their apartment was funny.

Yeah.

It was crazy.

It's crazy that James just like called her up just to yell at her.

I'm shocked she picked up.

Yeah.

And then the kind of big scene.

There were so many big scenes.

I know.

One of the big scenes was Raquel's apartment with Tom.

And I think everyone like collectively clenched their buttholes when he was talking about his family, say, you know, they love you.

And she thought he said, I love you.

And she was like, I love you too.

Yeah, but it's nice to know they're in love and they, and that they say it to each other.

I don't know.

I feel like a lot of the excitement and potentially, I don't think that they're broken up.

I think that report is false.

But if they are broken up, I feel like, you know, part of the excitement with an affair is, you know, the salaciousness of it all and doing it behind and like knowing it's wrong.

And then when that kind of I literally can't relate to that, like doing something and knowing it's wrong makes it not fun for me.

Kill me.

But that is like what happens.

Some like crazy people feel.

Yeah.

Right.

And I think for Tom, who's like clearly chasing some sort of high in his life, I think the

rebellious nature of the romance is probably what drew him to it a lot.

And once that's over, you know, you're left with the person in front of you.

And I don't know if there is this like deep, romantic, perfect match connection between the two of them.

And I could almost feel him like last night just being like...

Like not as excited about it anymore.

They kept talking about how we have this deep connection.

And then he gets there and he's like, yeah, I know they were holding back for the cameras, but it wasn't, didn't seem like this great love.

I don't know.

It felt more like a real real love and a relationship to me than I thought it was going to, especially since they were like saying things.

Like, just because I've never seen them like together like that.

So them like agreeing that it's like weird to be in front of cameras and do what they do.

I felt like

they have that relationship.

I think the rebellious nature of it definitely is attractive for them.

But I also think, you know.

It's the newness for Tom.

Like he likes things that are shiny and new.

And I think even if he's able to have like a real relationship with her Akela, it will be new for a while and he will still be into it.

Like it was with Ariana.

A point.

Yeah.

But he also, like, I think the

hovering theme here is that he's 40 and he's having a serious midlife crisis.

Yeah.

Like, it's crazy that he's 40 and he's going to his girlfriend's apartment with the lights, the galaxy lights.

It's so stupid.

It's so

childish, immature, and he has no idea who he is.

They're perfect for each other because she has no idea who she is.

No, that's so true.

And what's just so crazy to me is why Ariana was so ride or die for him.

Like, I know.

No matter how bad their relationship is.

It's admirable, but why?

Right.

Like we found out last night he knew that night she knew about Miami girl.

So this is somebody who has cheated on her.

I can understand forgiveness.

That doesn't even shock me so much, but he doesn't come home at night.

You guys don't have...

a good relationship.

Like you don't have an intimate relationship.

Like what is there?

Like, and he's also a fucking loser.

And she's cool.

So like, what does she admire about him?

Yeah, no, I'm not sure, but you know, you get comfortable and like you just, things work and they're fine.

Like, that's what happens to a lot of people.

And so for sure, like, Tom's not wrong in saying, like, this relationship should have ended.

Sure.

I think probably they both would have agreed with that.

But like, this is not how you do it.

No.

Oh, my God.

No.

No.

Not at all.

And I will be curious for the reunion, like, to hear, because Tom said on the show a few times to different people, including Ariana, that he tried to break up with her.

Yeah.

And there were different responses of like, literally, no.

Yep.

She threatened to kill herself.

Like, so on the table.

On Watch Adams Live last night.

On Watch Adams Live, she said he never tried to break up with her.

Right.

So I want to see them have that conversation.

Yeah.

Well, so that's how the reunion is laid out.

I think it's Tom and Ariana, Solo.

Tom, Ariana, Raquel.

Big group without Raquel with Sheena.

Big group without Sheena with Raquel.

Wow.

That's how I think it goes.

Yeah, and they're not talking about the rest of the season.

They're not?

No, I saw an art, the one of the producers was like talking about casting.

They're not filming yet.

They're taking like a minute to sort out their casting stuff because they're in kind of a tough spot.

Nobody will film with Tom and Raquel, obviously.

But Tom and Raquel are the story.

Oh, yeah.

No, but so I can't believe we've gotten this far without talking about Schwartz.

Hate.

Hate Schwartz.

Like, I kind of hate.

Like, this whole time, he's always been this person.

He's always been this loser who would like do anything for his loser friend, who doesn't respect his wife.

Like, he's always been this person, but for some reason, like, he's gotten away with it.

He's gotten away with it.

The fan is like, the fans are like, oh, Schwartz is so cute.

Myself included.

It wasn't until this season, like, even in the last few weeks that I've come to despise him.

I've actually always thought he was like, cute, puppy dog, endearing.

Right.

Sweet, means well, nice guy.

Right.

And so I think he's really having some sort of identity crisis.

Like, he was just beloved, and he could act like an animal, and he did, and he would make poor choices.

He cheated on Katie.

Remember, he made out with a girl.

But everyone was like, Shortsy, Schwartzy, Schwartzy.

And to in a dime, like have like all the consequences of your actions like show up at your front door in this huge way.

Like he's really struggling.

And the way he won't even slightly like be angry at Sandoval is so psychotic to me.

Yeah.

Well, he he said a little bit when he spoke to Ariana that he's upset.

He didn't say it to Sandoval.

No, no, he didn't say it to Sandoval.

And now we could see how that first apology note from Sandoval walks away.

And it's just like Schwartz being so fucking dumb to really, like, I understand that his business is suffering and that must be hard.

And really the hardest part.

Like, yes, everybody's feelings are hurt, but I'm sure on a personal level for Schwartz, like his parents or his family invested in it.

He invested in it.

He lost his marriage over it.

He has people working on it.

Line of credit.

Everything is on the line for him.

And that is like, aside from, you know, getting hate tweets and mean comments, like, that's fucking real.

I get that.

Yeah.

But he doesn't even have like the

self-awareness to be like, Sandival, you need to put out a statement like about the situation, not just about the business.

No, they're just like, and I remember it when it happened.

Like, they were just panicked about the business.

And I do think in the end,

this ultimately will be a good thing for the business.

I don't think like the destruction of the business,

like it's going to be collateral because at the end of the day, like it is the setting now behind like one of the greatest, most scandalous reality TV moments in history.

Like, I do think it will end up being like a good thing for the restaurant.

I don't know.

He said on watch it happens live that people are like coming in mostly to you know like and i think schwartz like shows up every day and like sits down with people and talks about it just to like give them an experience like you know it's like come to schwartz and standards if you want to talk to me about skin like i'm just getting agree like law is selling merch he's selling himself right um which isn't like the worst idea i've ever heard but

I don't know if their restaurant can withstand like this period of boycott.

Yeah, yeah.

But is the period still going on?

I felt like it was over.

I feel like it's still going on.

It's like the episode just aired.

Right.

And then we're going to have reunion.

Like, I don't know what's going on over there.

I will say like major kudos to Bravo.

I think they've really handled the whole thing very well.

Kind of embargoing, you know, Ariana until tonight.

And then she was on the Today Show this morning.

I thought the editing in the beginning of the episode was excellent.

Ben was on the edge of his fucking seat.

He couldn't believe it.

He was also...

cackling at everything Tom Schwartz said.

Like he was like, this guy is so dumb.

Tom Schwartz?

Yeah, like everything that just came out of his mouth.

Really, he doesn't think like, how is this next sentence going to make me look?

Yeah, because he's just always said what comes to mind and people have eaten it up.

Yeah.

But no, the chickens are coming home to roost.

Like Ben was cracking up when he got to Katie's.

He was like, can I have a Coke?

And she was like, yeah, sure.

And he took a beer.

Like, like little dumb things like that, which is really like what people have loved about Schwartz this whole time.

But it's just not fucking cute anymore.

No.

Like it's annoying.

No.

No.

What else?

I felt like the initial conversation, you know, the sit-down of the century between Ariana and Tom, who who are still living in the same house, it's so crazy.

Crazy.

But, you know, me and Ben were having this conversation.

Like, they split that house.

Right.

And they put all their Vanderpump money into this house.

Like, who the?

I'm not fucking leaving.

You leave.

She shouldn't leave because he should leave.

But if he's not leaving, like, she should go stay with a friend.

Like, she said, Lisa

offered.

Sheena had Raquel staying with her at one point.

There's a million places she could go.

I'm sure she's gotten reached out to by literally everyone in the house.

Hotel.

Oh, a hotel.

Airbnb should really.

Oh, by the way, marketing idea for Airbnb.

Give her a house until until this crazy lunatic leaves.

That's actually a very good idea.

It's insane that she's in the same house as him.

It's nuts.

And when they sat down for that conversation, I actually thought she was much more measured and, you know,

calm, even though, you know, she wasn't that calm than I would have been.

Like, I thought she really had an, she took the time to think about what she wanted to say.

And, like, sometimes you know what you want to say, but your emotions just cloud everything.

And she was crystal fucking clear.

Yeah.

It was a great time in her grieving process to have the conversation because it was just straight anger facts.

And then, like, when she goes over to Lisa, she can just fall apart.

Um, when Tom went over to Lisa's, that I'm sorry, like, I was not fucking okay cracking up.

This man, I don't know, like, he's so weird looking, like, in this current era with his floppy hair and his mustache and the nail polish and like the punk rock outfits.

Like, he's so unserious, and he thinks he's a rock star.

And so he's like having this fake panic attack, like, cry breakdown.

I don't think it was fake.

Beyond,

like, I'm sorry.

I don't know if it was fake.

I just want to say, it doesn't mean that I feel sorry for him.

I just want to say I don't think it was fake.

And I think to go through, I think a part of him is enjoying all the

attention.

A part of him is like, he ruined his life.

What is he going to do?

To go through what he's gone through and not break down at one point and have a panic attack

would be

psychotic.

I'm sorry.

I actually take it back.

I don't think it was fake.

I just don't think he was crying about what he said he was crying about.

I don't think there's really any love lost for him to Arianne.

I think he's crying about the fact that like his band is in trouble.

He's like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, situation.

And yeah, his situation.

Like, oh, people don't like me.

And he's this crazy narcissist.

He's not crying because this is the last conversation he might ever have with Ariana.

He don't give a shit.

No, no, no, no, no.

He's crying because his world has imploded.

Right.

And he hit the button.

And he was really able to act like such an ass for so long.

But like for some reason, like the Bravo fans lived for it.

And he was able to like open this restaurant and be Lisa's number one and get Tom Tom and start the band.

Like he was able to do all this even as the worst.

So he just took the worst like a little too far this time.

He didn't know where he could take it.

Yeah.

It was crazy.

It was honestly historic ariana was so beautiful and really just very well spoken very measured on watch what happens live and he was eating it up it was it was just historic yeah it was it was really crazy what did you think of kristen coming back i needed more i mean she's so mature and you know ariana like had you know started to apologize because you know how you get them is how you lose them and kristen didn't even want to hear it yeah she's so mature she's so lovely i off camera a lot of them are really good good friends with Kristen.

So many of the fans were like, this, they, you know, were healing, like that, the fact that Kristen and Ariana were hugging, but like they're very close.

They've been such good friends for such a long time.

Like this isn't new.

No, so it wasn't crazy.

It wasn't like this has brought them together at all.

No, I did cringe like my face off when at the end they were like, ashes to ashes, dust to dust.

No matter the day, we choose to slay.

Slay we must.

Slay we must.

Slay we must.

I was like passing away.

Me and Ben were like gripping each other.

You have to remember, they're still in LA.

No, I know.

And they're just like chewy millennials.

But like it was too much.

Like it was actually too much.

I totally agree.

Slay we must.

Yeah.

I actually like I needed to go to the hospital.

It was so painful.

Call an ambulance.

For me.

I also thought it was really interesting that Ariana has been watching so much TikTok.

Really?

She said that on Watch Outs Live and she also said it today on The View.

That's not easy.

Or the TV.

That's not crazy to me.

No, but she's getting like, she's like, I'm literally being targeted with like all this content about myself, like people making like music videos.

And she's like, it's just weird.

That's funny.

Yeah.

But it's probably also helpful for her because they're probably pulling up old scenes that she's seeing and she's able to like contextualize them now and be like, oh shit.

Yeah.

Andy was also like, you know, at the end of the day, like all this crazy, this was like the last question, so you probably didn't hear it.

All this crazy stuff, like endorsements, there's talks of her being on Dancing with the Stars, you're going on the view in the Today Show.

Like all in all, net net.

You okay?

Yeah.

And she was like, it's really crazy.

Like, she didn't want to say, but like, I, you know what?

I, it actually made me think about all the girls whose best friends sleep with their boyfriends and don't get to go on Dancing with the Stars.

Like the situation probably remedied itself.

Like she was too booked and busy and famous and popular to really spend that much time being down.

Like almost immediately she was out here.

She's in an ad campaign for Bloomingdale's.

Like there's all this stuff.

She's on Comedy Central.

Like

I don't really feel like she could have been that sad after that.

No, I agree.

And it's like before Scandival, she's in like

an admitted miserable relationship, disconnected from the biggest loser in the world.

And she's always been like a constant on the show, but never the

star or anything.

And I also don't think that's that important to her, but like, cause she would be crazier if it was.

But so that's where she was before Scandival.

Yeah.

Okay, so your best friend betrayed you and slept with your lifestyle.

And that's really fucking terrible.

But you are the biggest star in the world.

Everybody loves you.

Every door is open to you.

Everybody supports you.

You, every, like,

You are universally loved.

But I guess, like, if you think about it, like before,

even though Sandoval sucks and we hate him, like she thought, like, and she doesn't have a lot of

like close family, I think.

Yeah.

Well, she has her mom and her brother.

She doesn't have her family.

I'm sorry.

Sheena read Tom Sanoval to absolute gift when he was like, she said she was going to kill herself, which Ariana says is not true.

What was I supposed to do?

And she's like, you call me, you call Jeremy, you call, you fly Tanya in.

Like, she had the fucking answers.

I'm like, yes, she did.

It's so true.

It was the perfect answer.

But I feel like she only has like a few close people in her life.

So like, she thought she had that with Tom.

Yeah.

Even though, you know, it wasn't the spiciest, most exciting relationship after nine years.

It was stable.

It was like you had what you thought was loyalty in your man and your best friend.

And to lose that, even though you could go on dancing with the stars.

Yeah.

None of that really matters.

It like kind of shakes you to your core.

Yeah.

I will say there were some things that came out of Tom Sandoval's mouth last night that i found like genuinely shocking like even for a narcissistic fucking psychopath like him

why didn't you tell her well i just figured she'd follow me and figure it out oh my god that was crazy that that was like a next level subhuman to even conjure up a thought like that you have her fault for not diabolical

for not following him up on his lies but also by the way he was lying about a lot but he wasn't lying about going to schwartz how much of their affair was taking place at schwartz's house No, I think that it was.

Well, I mean, on which I was like, Ariana said, when he said that, I was shocked because I was looking at his location and he was at Schwartz's.

Oh, that's crazy.

With Raquel.

With Raquel, but he could also just go to Raquel's.

Right, but I guess like...

Not as frequently.

He was hiding something, so he was doing like a decent job of covering it up.

Yeah, no, it's also, it's like, if you want to get caught, which is what it sounds like when you say follow me, then why are you deleting everything off your phone?

When she says, let me look at your phone, and there you go, oops, sorry.

So much of the shit, like when he started to yell at her in the opening scene, I'm like, you sit down.

That's crazy.

Even if you have thoughts, you sit down and you just fucking take it.

It's crazy that in like the first second of like, there's going to be waves of this.

And maybe at like wave five, he could

explain

where he was at, you know?

Like, cause I do want to know like mentally how to get to this place.

But in wave one, you sit there and you fucking take it.

And you just say, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.

But he's such a narcissist.

Like, you can true, and he really is like a true narcissist.

True narcissists can really only apologize and take accountability, like, if at all, a very limited amount.

Like, until they're like, well, I was wrong.

Right.

I feel like I deserve love and a deep connection.

Like, he's incapable of swallowing his pride and just being wrong.

Yeah.

Because he really is, honestly, not okay.

No.

And now I want to talk about this rumor that they broke up.

Okay.

So they.

How?

She's.

locked up.

She's sending him letters, Ariana said.

She is locked up.

So I just want to say, like, we were chatting.

We were all kind of wrong we thought she just went to a retreat Canyon Ranch she's sending snail mail she's in a facility she's in a facility so if she can't even like talk to him on the phone she's sending him letters they ain't breaking up unless I had a thought last night that the letter that came to him a few days ago said Tom we have to end things oh

well here's the thing I think about how this could play out in future seasons, this upcoming season specifically.

And

if Raquel and Tom Tom break up, I can see a world in which Raquel kind of positions herself, she's just in this facility, positions herself as like a victim of Tom Sandoval.

And maybe in a very long time and in a very slow way, she slowly makes her way back to the group as like an outsider.

And Tom Sandoval becomes the sole villain of this saga.

I don't think so.

I think.

I don't think Tom Sandoval will ever come back from this.

I don't, I couldn't predict which one would, but the only thing that would

bring him back is the fact that they have like a history, you know.

It's been 15 years, like Sheena said.

Like with Raquel, they've known this bitch three years, they and turns out to be a hundred years old nothing to her, they didn't know her after her, they owe her nothing.

So, I could say, I think she'll go that route.

I think that's really the only road to go down if they do break up, that, like, that she was a victim of his.

Yeah, but I don't think it's gonna work for anyone.

No, they're really girls are hardened, they're better off just falling in love, yeah.

No, that's what I'm saying.

So, it

when they are, like, it will be so weird if they just dissolve and break up.

And it was like, all of this was for nothing.

Yeah.

I also felt like last night they did a really good job of like kind of explaining how deep so many of these relationships go.

Like, I totally forgot Ariana was a groomsman.

Yeah.

Like, and I thought when she sat him down and her being so clear, like, I will not associate with one person that is friends with him.

So you and I are done.

Have a nice life.

Like, I think that A, that's really healthy.

B, it was very like savage of her.

But then I watched Happens Live.

He was like, well, what about Lisa?

Well, Lisa is in a different position.

They're business partners.

And like, the relationships, they're not friends.

Like, she said, I want him mutual friends with him, but like, it's not a friendship that they have.

And I do think that I don't fault Lisa for lending an ear to Tom Sandoval.

And it's not like she's

patting him on the back.

She's giving him hard truths.

Like, that doesn't really bother me.

So no, me neither.

But it's also, like, Lala literally said the same thing this season about like Randall and Tom Schwartz.

And how come that wasn't met with such acceptance?

Yep.

Yep, yep, yep.

Like Randall's an actual like alleged deviant.

Right.

And nobody respected that.

And nobody respected that.

It's like, oh, Lala's being intense.

One other thing I will say that I really liked was the complete breaking of the fourth wall.

They talked about the fact that they're on a show, they have fans, they're famous, there's press, there's us weekly.

To a degree, they talked about it, but I also like that they didn't.

I actually feel like they punctured the fourth wall, but they didn't completely break it, which I liked.

They were honest about certain things, but like we're still filming a show and and there's still a semblance of

like we're all stars.

Like they don't really talk about that ever.

Like they're just supposed to be like normal people and we hoe.

It was helpful.

Yeah.

It was extremely well done.

Yeah.

It was sad.

It was sad.

No, I'm telling you, like I wasn't like lapping it up.

Oh, I was also shook that we got one scene with Raquel.

I thought there would be a little bit more.

Literally, when that screen came up and said she turned off her phone, nobody's heard from her for weeks.

I was shocked.

Especially since she seemed decently comfortable in the filming setting.

Like when she wasn't terrible.

When we heard and reported that

he went to her apartment and they filmed, like, the idea I had of what they filmed would have been like her like in a corner like this.

Like, no, she was herself and she was making jokes and smiling and being like, you know, I have no friends.

The scar is visible.

Yeah.

That is a scar.

And it's a nail.

It's literally a half moon shape.

Yeah.

It's that summer moon shape.

I actually believed Sheena's explanation of it.

Like she might have just cut her with her.

Like Sheena, I don't think she pulled her arm back and wound up and punched her.

I believe Sheena's explanation, but Raquel did have a mark.

Visible.

A wound.

And it was also visible in her interview when she's covered with makeup.

Yeah.

But she only had like a two-second interview.

Why did they only show they got like no Raquel footage?

No, but like she went and sat down for an interview and they only included like one sound bite.

And also what the fuck else did she say?

Think about that time period as well.

She was like doing TMZ and then she filmed the reunion.

Like there actually was a decent amount of time before she went

MIA.

She did the TMZ like literally two days before the reunion, I think.

But she sat down on a green screen for an interview once.

And they only showed us one clip.

And the one clip was like crazy.

Yeah.

What else did she say?

I don't know.

I just, I want to see that interview.

And Raquel, as we know it, is still in this facility.

Yeah.

It's crazy.

So do you think they broke up?

No.

No, not unless the letter had said that.

Right.

But I feel like the letter could have said that.

If she really like is doing deep,

if the facility accomplishes what it's set out to accomplish, she should break up with him.

Right.

Yeah.

And that would come in the form of a letter.

Dear

time,

I see it all now that I'm gone.

Don't you think Johnny Aid's too young to be played by your dark, twisted games when you, when I loved you

so

I gotta gotta go.

I think that's what it said.

I think that's what it says too.

Well, it's not over yet.

We got three cards for you.

Literally.

That's our title today.

Remember it?

Also, there was a little more.

There was a couple more headlines that I just wanted to make sure that we talked about.

Okay.

I thought the most interesting tidbit from the episode was Lala claiming that Tom Sandwich cheated with Billy.

With Bill Eileen.

Thank you so much for bringing that up.

And on Watch Revolves Live, he pressed her about it.

He was like, who is this person?

Who's the third person that you, you know the infidelity about?

She said, it's somebody in Bravo.

No, she didn't say Bravo.

She said, not in the show universe.

But he said, is it someone in the Bravo universe?

She said, not the show universe.

And Andy's never met them.

Makes me think it's like some sort of influencer or something.

I need to know.

I need to, because Andy's met Billy.

Right, because Billy was at a reunion.

Right.

But then also very recently, Sanoval was paparazzi with Billy.

Yeah, they're friends.

There's something there.

There's something there that wasn't there before.

And the fact that that came up at a reunion and was unaired footage, like

you show us crap.

It's so true.

Even if there was like no truth to the rumor, like the fact that there's a rumor going around about two cast members committing infidelity, like let us know.

I was floored by that revelation and that footage.

And I'm going to need more.

Yeah.

I'm going to need Lala to explain herself.

Maybe Lala Hottie.

Investigates.

Yeah.

Just explain what you meant when you said that.

Yep.

Explain what you meant.

Question mark.

Exclamation.

And I don't think it was just one person.

I think it was just the one person that's confirmed.

Yeah.

Miami Girl.

One person.

One person.

Because Tom Sandoval said it was one person, but Tom Sandoval is a liar.

Yeah, he's a liar.

Sandoval's a liar.

And then Rock How.

Yeah.

As far as we know.

I thought that was.

No, I'm so glad you brought that up.

And that's it.

But it's...

But it's so not it.

It's not it.

We have three weeks, three more weeks of reunion, and I can't wait.

Yeah, same.

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So that's obviously harrowing to see.

Well, especially like, hello, we were all here.

Like, his mother died in a car chase with paparazzi.

So it feels very like history repeating itself energy.

Yes.

So then yesterday more details were coming out about the

chase.

A few different

people spoke on it who were involved.

The mayor.

The mayor who's not involved.

But the mayor loves a celebrity.

You know he's getting involved.

No, you know he's getting involved.

We'll share what he said.

The NYPD put out a statement and the taxi driver.

And that's who I want to hear from.

He gave a video interview.

I will say, like, I know they got into like their armored tinted cars and they couldn't shake four of the 12 paparazzi.

I don't think getting into...

A yellow cab without tinted windows and with an untrained driver, like to evade paparazzi, it's a specific trait.

Like, yes, actually, New York City cab drivers are some of the best drivers in the world but it's still not the skill i don't think that was the wisest decision no so i mean i understand why they did it we always say too like if people want to draw attention to themselves like don't come with armored vehicles yeah the station wagon yeah exactly So they were in their car and they were being pursued and they went to a police precinct on 67th Street and where they like filed this complaint and waited it out.

And then their security guard hailed them a taxi to take them the rest of the way.

A taxi being less obvious

conspicuous than their vehicle.

But the taxi driver said, so the taxi driver started to drive and paparazzi spotted them, was taking pictures of them.

So they asked the taxi driver to circle back to the precinct so that they could go back there.

The taxi driver.

Was there anyone in the cab with them or just three of them?

These are three of them, I think.

He said he called by the

security guy.

Maybe they were in the other vehicles.

Maybe.

He said he picked up Harry, Megan, and an older woman he didn't recognize and a security guard.

Sorry, a security guard in his yellow cab at about 11 p.m.

outside the New York police precinct on East 67th Street.

They were staying uptown.

And he said that he got the impression from the group that they had already been pursued by the paparazzi before entering his car.

After a few minutes, the security guard grew concerned about the photographers around them and asked him to return to the police station because they got cut off by a garbage truck.

This is just like New York City tastes.

What?

They were driving and the garbage trucks

and they can't move.

And so then there's paparazzi.

They they were like that's just unfortunate next to them taking pictures the guards thought they were too exposed and didn't want their location shared more widely he turned and headed north up madison avenue driving back to the pickup point he estimated the journey was in 10 minutes he said though i don't think i would call it a chase i never felt like i was in danger it wasn't like a car chase in a movie they were quiet and seemed scared but it's new york it's safe plus if you're a new yorker you know that there's not anywhere to go it is quite it is physically impossible for a car chase to occur in the streets of New York, maybe on the FDR or the Westside Highway, but it is physically impossible.

The streets are tiny, like there's always double parked cars.

There's nowhere to drive.

Like, you can't go over 20 miles an hour in New York City.

Let alone a two-hour car chase.

A car chase, they might have been being followed, and I'm sure that they were, but a car chase is, you know, we all think OJ.

Yeah.

But I think the whole ordeal was two hours from the time they left it then to the time they got to their destination.

I will say.

It wasn't like two hours of cars ripping through the streets.

Right, right.

Chasing each other down.

Mayhem.

I will say, the paparazzi are so out of control and like really so disrespectful.

And like nothing they get is ever enough.

Having said that, it sounds like a lot of bad calls were made by her security detail.

I cannot imagine why anybody thought it would be a good idea to put her in a yellow cab when there's still paparazzi around.

The one thing, all right, if paparazzi are following you, you're in your armored tinted vehicle.

They can't get a photo of you.

Like, so I don't, like, that's just a horrible idea.

And then to go back to the precinct, like, and to get out of the car twice along the way.

This honestly, like it sounds like a bunch of morons are in charge of them honestly like that's really dumb yes oh and to go to the precinct period you're in the you know how hard it is for them all to get in the car with the paparazzi they're in the car just go home you someone could go to the precinct for you you could file a report you can call the police i'm sure they have special connections to the police to get out of the car midway like that's that's just bad security maybe they didn't know want paparazzi to know where they were staying so to make it to their family i'm sure paparazzi already knows where they're staying okay well mayor adams then said in a press conference on Wednesday, it's clear that the press, the paparazzi, they want to get the right shot, but public safety must always be at the forefront.

He was especially concerned that two of their police officers could have been injured and said while he found it, quote, hard to believe that there was a two-hour high-speed chase, even an incident lasting 10 minutes could have been extremely dangerous.

No, by the way, I am sure, like, I don't think anyone's lying.

Like, I'm sure that they're really hyper sensitive.

Hypersensitive to given the mom.

Given the situation, even when we watched Harry and Meghan the documentary, there was a a scene where they're like on the west side highway and there's paparazzi that are following them as paparazzi do and they are visibly shaken shaken by it but like and it's just an unfortunate byproduct of being a public figure you know like when the kardashians come to new york they are hounded and i think they experience like a lot of really big like the biggest names experience this all the time but it hits different for harry given his history of course with the media and the cars right so i don't think that they're lying but i do think think they're probably like, I don't even think they're intentionally dramatizing it because to them, it was probably so traumatizing and like so real.

But like the facts, but you know, we say this as somebody who wasn't there, you know?

I'm sure you freaked out too.

No, but like

I just, I was just watching Kardashians Hula and Kim goes to Miami and they're like pulled up at a red light and

there's paparazzi everywhere.

And so I, and there's car paparazzi and there's yeah.

on their foot paparazzi and bike paparazzi and I'm sure that's exactly what this was.

It just is different when Harry's experiencing it because he is so traumatized.

When I heard this story, I was actually thinking, because we haven't seen any sort of relationship between Megan Markle and the Kardashians.

And actually, based on what she said about like housewives and feminism on her podcast, I feel like she'd probably hate the Kardashians, but they could probably help her.

Like, they are probably like the queens of paparazzi and letting the paparazzi see them when they want and when they don't want.

And they have all, whenever I'm watching the show, I'm always like shook at like just these little things that they do.

And you know what?

I'm sure they could actually like swap info.

And I I think they would probably be helpful.

But I feel like I just get the vibe she just probably doesn't like them.

I feel like they've met and it just like didn't click.

Click.

Because like they were both at Ellen's birthday party.

That's the most recent thing.

Yeah.

And I do feel like Kim and Megan would have things, they would be friends.

So the fact that they're not is because like they're not.

Right.

And also, Megan just hired one of Kim's former security guards.

We always know as lay people where the Kardashians are saying when they come to New York because they take pictures outside their hotel.

Like I think that's just a fact that they've accepted.

Yeah.

But it's about the security that they have.

Of the hotel.

Of the hotel.

You know, know, they, the people on the ground, in the rooms, like, yes, I agree.

They could maybe learn something.

You know, like, I just feel like the Kardashians are honestly like, of all the famous people right now, probably the most well-versed in paparazzi culture.

And security because Kim.

Because of Kim, exactly.

Yes.

So this was like a crazy, everyone coming out of the woodwork to tell their side of the story.

The cab driver, the mayor, I was like,

Backgrid photo agency has put out a statement.

Hooray, denying that

they were in danger during this car chase.

It's just paparazzi doing their job.

These paparazzi were being animals.

Like, I'm look, I've seen footage.

Like, they're animals.

Yeah.

But I'm sure, you know, to Harry and Megan, it also

worse than it is because it's heightened.

Exactly.

It's heightened.

Yeah.

I agree.

Yeah.

So.

That was crazy.

That was crazy.

I was like, everybody, I missed it.

Like, the fact that the mayor is like weighing in

on some traffic violations.

But also, if paparazzi are speeding and in danger and about to hit a police officer and about to hit pedestrians, like ticket them.

Right.

Stop them in their tracks.

Right.

Right.

No?

yeah, right.

Yeah,

it's like literally the least shocking thing that this mayor spoke out.

Like, he is obsessed with celebrity.

Honestly, it's like the one thing I kind of relate to him on.

Like, he's so thirsty.

He goes to the opening of an envelope.

Like, he's unbelievably thirsty.

And so, like, the two, literally, the biggest, most famous people in the country right now were in your city and said something happened with your police department.

Like, press conference.

I'm here.

It's honestly like a sitcom.

Like, yes.

Parks and Red.

Yep.

Yup.

Yup.

Yup.

Are you ready for our next story?

Yeah.

A little bit of information about the saga between Kim and Croy.

What?

A report says that Kim is demanding Croy Bierman be tested for drugs, and she fears for the kid's safety.

Oh, I really never got that vibe from him.

Marijuana.

Oh, my God, the drama.

Kim is accusing estranged husband, Croy Bierman, of having a drug problem, according to court documents obtained by TMZ on Wednesday.

She reportedly filed a petition requesting that the former NFL player submit a drug test amid their ongoing divorce.

The procedure would include a five-panel hair follicle drug screen per the report.

According to TMZ, Kim has allegedly witnessed Croy smoking marijuana and has concerns about the safety of their four minor children.

Oh my god, he's going off the deep end.

According to legal experts, weed is not legal in the state of Georgia where the exes reside.

Also, like there are degrees of marijuana.

You saw him smoking a blunt once like after a long day.

But if she's going to split custody with him and he's high every single day, you don't want your kids around that.

Do you think you could be addicted to pot?

Yes.

Okay.

Yes.

Have you never met someone who's addicted to pot?

I don't think I have.

You don't know that many people though, but

no, pot is extremely addictive.

And then it's also like degenerative for your life.

Yeah, because it's like it's like a slow.

Yeah, like once in a while, yeah, you want to kick back to your kids.

Right.

But if you're doing that every single day, like I could understand as a parent, that's not the environment you want your kid in.

So

there are so many degrees to what this story could be.

But I found that interesting.

Yeah, no, I mean, the headline is misleading.

I'm like, oh, he's rolling lines and injecting injecting heroin, you know, of all the drugs to be doing.

But they're in the midst of a cutscene battle, so you do kind of sling anything you can.

No, and you use the person, like the worst, not that smoking pot is a bad thing about you, but in the eyes of the law, you're going to use everything you got because you want to A, make your partner look worst and make you look best so you can get a favorable custody.

But you could have legitimate concerns about your kids being in custody of someone who is recreationally doing drugs.

I'm going to think it's probably like a strategic legal move as opposed to like him being strung out on pot, honestly.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know anything.

I don't know.

Me neither.

But I just never got like the vibe from him that he's like.

Well, clearly something's changed with one of them or both of them.

But like as a father, he's like so active.

You know, like, let's go play football.

Like, I don't see him as like, hey, let's sit on the couch and beat potatoes.

Like, he was always trying to get the kids in the pool, at the golf.

Like, he's very, he's an active, he's an athlete.

Yeah.

And of course, I'm talking about a TV show, so I don't know the person.

And this was five years ago.

but that's just based on you know my research.

What you've seen.

Yeah.

But we haven't seen things in a few years.

No, we haven't.

So we don't know what's going on.

We don't.

Maybe, you know.

Cameras need to roll in order for me to make a decision.

He got into marijuana and he and he can't get out of it.

Yeah.

Slippery slope.

It is a gateway drug.

It's a real thing to like, if you smoke every single day.

Yeah.

You do know people who smoke every single day, actually.

I do, yes.

But they, like, to me, they don't seem like addicted.

Like, when I think addicted, I think, like,

rehab.

Do people go to rehab for pot?

No, because I don't think it's taken that

seriously.

And I also think, like, typically, if you're like addicted to pot, it's not just pot.

Like, it winds up being some

stuff too.

Pills or, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, no, that's fair.

So.

I don't know that many people.

You don't.

So I am a woman of the world.

No, you know, actually, you know a lot of people.

Not on like a personal level, I guess.

Yeah.

I just feel like I have a lot.

Like Uba, like I have so many friends.

I have a million friends.

Like just ask Uba.

My bestie.

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Yeah, welcome.

Our next story is a little romance news that's gone the way of the horse and buggy.

Add him to the list.

Billie Eilish and Jesse Rutherford break up after less than a year.

As a rep says, they remain good friends.

No love loss for me.

I didn't even know who this person was.

He was like a little bit weirdly older than her.

And she had that like weird, cringy quote about him.

And that was.

Yeah.

She's like, imagine like the hottest fucking guy, like

him not only knowing who I am, but like also being able to fucking pull him.

That's what she said.

And honestly, I haven't been able to look at her the same since.

And I haven't been able to look at the relationship the same since.

So now that it's over, I think we can like resume.

I'm just happy to move on and pretend like this never happened.

Honestly, yeah.

I hope she's okay.

Like, I never stand.

No, I don't know who he is.

Honestly, he could come over and kiss me on the mouth and I would say, sir, who are you?

Like, I don't even know what he looks like.

Yeah.

And I'm okay.

And I never really wanted to know who he was, you know?

No.

This was information just kind of like thrust upon me.

No, because it's also just your relationship to Billy as well.

Like, if Taylor was dating Jesse Rutherford, all of a sudden, we love each other.

Oh, my God.

Did you hear about this open letter?

What?

The Swifties are unwell.

What?

There's an open letter, like somebody wrote to Taylor, signed all the Swifties.

Like, bitch, don't include me in your fucking letter, okay?

What's they're all mad about Maddie?

Because he's problematic.

They said he's anti-Semitic, so of course my ears went up.

And I watched the footage, and honestly, I didn't find it offensive.

And I low-key found it funny.

So I don't know whatever it is.

Yeah, they're labeling him with all the labels.

I saw a bunch of the,

you know, works cited.

And I think he's just like a crazy provocateur.

I don't think he is all of those things.

I don't think he's anti-Semitic.

I don't think he's a Nazi, like Hitler.

I don't think he's a Nazi.

I don't think he's a Nazi.

Like, I think if I'm just kind of going to say something crazy, like, I think it was a joke.

And honestly, don't quote me on this, but like, sometimes right time, right place.

A Nazi salute joke is funny.

I'm sorry.

A joke can be funny.

A joke can be funny.

A Nazi joke can be funny.

Listen.

I actually did a Nazi salute joke with all my Jewish friends in Nashville.

I'm like, they thought it was hilarious.

But like, I can do it.

It killed.

Literally.

I didn't even mean it like that.

No, it literally like annihilated.

See, you guys, it could be funny.

It could be funny.

So I like, don't think he's a serious Nazi.

And so all the people, everyone was sending me like anti-Semitic stuff, and it wasn't compelling.

So then I just figured

I'm not going to go down the radar.

All of the works cited are not compelling.

Yeah.

And I'm sure he said stuff that like I maybe wouldn't agree with or maybe I thought the joke was too far.

That doesn't make someone a bad person.

And so I'm.

And it doesn't mean that Taylor shouldn't date them.

And the idea that the fans are going to tell Taylor what to do with her.

Her personal life.

Her love life.

And the idea that the fans know Maddie better than Taylor, Taylor, who's spending every day with him for a few months, that they know something about him that she doesn't know and that she should act on is a real, it's a level of delusion.

It's a joke.

That's why, like, I think, like, please don't, don't write open letters on behalf of other people.

Like, you don't speak for me.

How many people signed it so far?

I don't think it was like a petition.

I think it was just like a letter.

Honestly, I don't know, but like, everyone was talking about it on TikTok.

I'm like, these people have lost their fucking minds.

These people have lost their fucking minds, but I.

We've lost the plot.

I feel like, right, it hasn't gotten like loud enough for it to actually affect Taylor as we've seen.

Like, she doesn't even look at stuff about herself online.

She's still on my like niche community.

Like it's not big yet.

Also like Taylor dating like someone

like controversial.

Controversial.

I kind of like that for her.

Me too.

Cause she's always a goody-goody like doing what everyone wants.

Like, no, yeah, take the anti-Semite queen.

Love that for you.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Maybe next it'll be Jesse Rutherford though.

Yeah.

I was just going to make it like an actual bad joke that like wouldn't have been funny.

So I use my judgment.

And we love that.

But what does he do?

Who?

Jesse Rutherford.

Rutherford.

Not a couple of people.

Oh, he does something that inspires her, though.

Like, I think it's music.

Inspires her.

Remember?

Because that's what she said.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

How would she know who he was?

Right.

No, like, I, the level of care is just not there for me on this story.

Yeah, no, I sat here for 40 minutes picking stories.

Sorry, I was late.

Oh my God, moved in my page.

No, it wasn't about you.

Wow.

Wow.

Just to like, and I had.

That was a last resort.

Like, because it's all about scandalball.

Yeah.

And at a certain point, I needed to just make a choice.

Shake it up, Chicago.

It's all about choices.

Life is all about choices.

That's good.

It led us to talk about all the Maddie drama.

Yeah, no, and that was funny.

Like, I'm not mad.

You're not mad, T?

I'm not Mattie.

Oh, my God.

I forgot to tell you.

Remember earlier in the week, we were talking about the name Maddie, and I said, you know, my favorite show, Awkward.

Yeah.

Guess who DM'd me?

You're not going to know what it means, but I'll explain it.

Greer Grammer.

She's on Awkward.

She was on Awkward.

The show was functioning.

She was also Kelsey Grammer's daughter.

And she's a toaster.

She's like, I've been listening for years.

I was like dying when you brought up awkward.

I'm like, you're, I was literally malfunctioning.

I'm like, you're a toaster?

Wonder what she thinks about Camille Grammar.

Maybe I'll ask her if she saw James.

Is she Camille's daughter?

No, no, no.

Okay.

That's actually, look at me.

I got to stop talking and like answering.

Is she a daughter?

I don't think so where she isn't.

You know what I mean?

Like, she's.

Well, that is true.

She's so is.

I feel like she might not be because I don't remember Camille Hammer.

Camille's kids were so young.

No, her mother is Barry Bruckner.

Okay.

Actor, a makeup artist.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So that's just like something exciting that happened to me today.

That's cool.

Thanks for sharing.

While Taylor won't listen to the toast,

Greer Grammar will, and that's good enough for me.

Yeah.

Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

Final story.

Another story that I passed a number of times before and she chose it.

Okay.

Chloe Kardashian is slamming the exhausting rumors about her and Tristan Thompson's relationship status.

This is newsworthy.

I'll give you it.

Yeah.

So Khloe wants people to stop talking about her relationship with ex-love Tristan.

chloe you and i want the same thing literally she said stop pushing this narrative it's tiring she added in response to a fan page screenshot from dumois that read kim supporting tristan at the lakers game what is going on do you think

what does this emoji connote i don't know like i'm melting yeah like i don't know like the wicked witch every time a celebrity either like directly calls out dumois or like something like this do you think like dumois like dies inside

i feel like it happens a lot it does happen a lot I feel like it's case-by-case how Dumas feels about it.

I feel like this one is.

Dumas didn't like say anything.

She just posted someone asking a question.

So I think, I think Chloe's more so responding to that fan than like Dumois for her.

Because, you know, a lot of people have questions.

I think we sat here and asked a question as well.

I think we did.

Can I ask you a question?

Why was Kim Kardashian sitting at the Lakers game?

While North had a poster that said Tristan Thompson?

Simple questions.

Yep.

But Chloe has the answers.

Stop pushing this narrative.

It's tiring.

Juma had said, posted allegedly he's back with Coco, so maybe she

saw off-launching the idea so everyone is prepared and doesn't give Coco a hard time.

Like, stop calling her Coco if you don't even know what's like, that's what her nieces and nephews call her.

Well, I wouldn't even call her Coco.

And I stand.

I would never speak such libel about her.

She said, I suppose you guys will continue the narrative you want, regardless of what I say.

So what's the point?

It's exhausting, but I learned people will only understand to the level of their own perception.

Most are stuck at believing the lies because it's the narrative they want to fuel.

Have fun.

I mean, some things are just as simple as they seem.

A family member supporting another family member, especially during a difficult time in life.

Example, just how I support Scott and will forever support him.

He's my brother.

Love that.

It's not just an NBA stage, sad new world.

If there's no photos, people think it didn't really happen.

But yes, I see Scott often.

Some things really are just as they are.

No, that was a decent example.

Yeah, no.

The thing is, is like nothing they're doing is abnormal for their relationship with Tristan, who's True's father.

But it's also not abnormal what they're doing if

he was in a relationship with Chloe.

Like, you know what I mean?

Yeah.

Like, they're both, like, everything they're doing is something normal you do with your sister's boyfriend and something normal you do with your cousin's dad.

Like,

so

it is easy for people to jump to conclusions.

Yeah.

But she cleared it up.

Cool.

Yeah, she did clear it up.

She's been clearing up like some stuff recently.

She's really been feeling like texting.

I love the direct communication.

But I also feel like

Chloe, like, I mean, it's her phone.

She probably sees everything about her all the time.

And apparently, she was like walking into the hotel in New York and people were chanting Courtney at her.

And so she posted that to her story as well.

And I just feel like she winds up like giving a lot of energy to things that don't

require it and like shouldn't matter so much to her, considering she needs to zoom out.

I agree.

But I'm sure it's almost impossible for her.

And it's literally they're chanting it at her.

Yeah.

But like the fact that you're going to say to your like 60 million followers something that like 20 people did.

Perhaps the video was going viral.

I didn't see it.

I didn't see it either.

It's like not the biggest deal in the world.

No, it's not.

And I'm sure like

I really feel for her because the amount of anxiety that she suffers from being in the public eye right now like is more than ever before.

And she was actually the sister who was like...

had the highest tolerance for it to start.

So I think she's really like suffering.

I just, I wish she could find a way to like see herself the way that most of us normal fucking people see her.

I know, I know.

If you ever get a chance to meet her, you should tell her that.

I honestly feel like it would really move her.

Honestly, that was beautiful.

Thanks, Claudia.

So we'll clip it.

Maybe we'll clip it and we could tag her.

Yeah.

Because she sees her Instagram.

So true.

She sees what people have to say.

Maybe Dumois could repost it for us.

So it really kind of gets across her desk.

Love you, Chloe.

Let's put that at the end.

Adorable.

Okay, well,

that's that.

That's that on that.

I've been wearing a bodysuit since 7 a.m.

Yeah, you have like

you're gonna need surgery.

No, Jaggie, if I literally put my fingers down my throat, I could pull the bodysuit out of my mouth.

If you pick your wedgie one more time on this show, I'm sorry I canceled.

I'm literally like this bodysuit is up my fucking pussy.

Like it's insane.

So we don't want you to get a UTI.

Right, so I gotta go.

She's gotta go before her urinary tracts and infection.

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