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Good morning, Millennials.

Welcome back to the toast and happy

Friday, Friday.

Gotta get down on Friday.

I'm really looking forward to the weekend, weekend, because I'm podcasting at you live from Nashville.

Hey, Jax, how you darn?

Dern good.

How does it feel to be in Music City?

Oh, I'm already.

I've got the music in me.

Like, I'm feeling the power of Nashville coursing through my veins.

For real?

No, I haven't left the hotel room.

I got here last night.

I'm podcasting.

Like, I haven't left my hotel, but I could feel the energy outside.

It's electric.

It's also a big weekend in Nashville.

Last night, the city was a buzz.

I couldn't even get to the hotel.

Janet Jackson was performing at Bridgestone Arena.

There are two college graduations this weekend: Nashville, no, not Nashville, Vanderbilt and Belmont, I think it's called.

So it's just the city is ablaze.

Wow, congrats to the graduates.

Congratulations.

Congrats.

Congrats.

Congrats to the grads.

Congratulatory.

Congratulations to the grads.

If you're a graduate and you're listening to this episode, congrats and thanks for listening and being a toaster

at your ripe young age.

It means a lot to us.

And most importantly, congrats.

Yeah.

And all you've achieved.

We've got a great audio-only episode for you guys.

So our YouTube listeners hope you can catch us on the ones and the twos wherever you get your podcast.

Jax is in New York.

I'm in Nashville.

Getting ready for the Eras tour.

And it's very exciting.

It's very exciting.

Any updates on the weekend plans or the Eras tour since you were on the podcast yesterday?

No.

No, nothing's changing.

Nothing's changing.

I did change hotel rooms.

You know, whenever we get to a hotel, Ben has a problem with the hotel room.

And it's like he's so particular that I just ignore him.

But he was 100% right.

We got put in this dungeon.

Like literally, there were no windows in this room.

I actually felt claustrophobic, and that's not even like a condition I suffer from.

So there was a change in rooms last night, but other than that, the plans remain the same.

Okay, great.

I'm so excited to podcast with you, but then to end the podcast so that you can embark on your Nashvilleian adventure.

You know, I love the Tennessee crew.

I'm a Tennessean at my heart, in my core.

Yeah, sure.

No, I really am.

Have you been to any other parts of Tennessee?

Yes, bitch.

I know you're trying to catch me in some ways.

No, no, no.

I'm just asking you.

I've been to Memphis.

I have never

been

to Memphis.

Well, I can't even sing that song wholeheartedly.

I've never been to Memphis, so I could sing it.

It's stunning, truly.

Lots of culture.

And I've also been to Franklin, which is like outside of Nashville, but it counts.

Okay.

Cool.

So, yeah, I've been to a few places.

That's so awesome.

Isn't it just dandy?

Do you guys know that Theo's, Theo's birth name, the name that he was given at his breeder,

was actually Dandy?

Oh, geez, no, because we were doing the breath when you got Theo, and it was a big topic of discussion.

And I wanted you to call him by his birth name, Dandy Hansen.

Dandy Hansen.

And by the way, like, Dandy, first of all, it doesn't roll off the tongue in any certain way.

You're so wrong.

And two, like, let's call a spade a spade.

Dandy is a girl's name.

Dandy would have been an amazing name, and you were wrong for that.

I stand by my decision.

Another Claudia life fun fact is that Theo actually had a name change early in his life.

Theo was not his original name and his original name was Dandy, but then his second name that Claudia named him when she first got him was

Moffy.

M-O-O-F-Y.

And it was like a really cute pet name me and Ben called each other at the time.

We still kind of do.

And we were like, oh my God, how cute.

Like if we actually take this pet name and give it to a pet.

And on day one, we knew immediately it was going to be so confusing.

Like, Ben was talking to Theo Muffy at the time.

And I was in the other room being like, Yeah, are you calling me?

It was moronic and it wasn't our best idea.

And I'm glad we had the foresight, like, not to, you know, sometimes you have a bad idea, but you just got to stick with it because you're stubborn.

I was so glad I was mature enough to realize, like, you know, maybe this wasn't my best call.

Yeah.

So then he rebranded again to Theo.

He did.

To gargeous Theo.

And it's been a joy ever since, honestly.

I believe that.

I'm looking at my own Streis Sands right here.

He's been just like extra angelic.

And

we're just having a moment.

You know, when you go through like waves of just like

bonding periods.

Connection.

Connection.

We are extremely connected these days.

I'm thrilled for you.

I'm thrilled for Streis.

And I'm thrilled for the community.

Yeah.

I'm thrilled for you.

And you know what?

I think we should get into the episode because you need to embark on your weekend.

I know you have big plans, you're like going over to Shannon's with the girls, spray tans.

Actually, dude, do I look tanned?

Shannon sprayed me, and I'm vlogging this whole thing for Patreon.

And all the girls who like we all traveled separately, we're staying in different places.

We're like a group of 15, they are vlogging too and being really supportive of the Patreon.

So, you will see, you know, what's going on.

Me and Ben are at the hotel with Laura and Elizabeth because we're just like, you know, boring like that.

Mature.

Margo, mature.

Mature.

Margo and her friends are staying at Shannon's, and then the rest of the crew got this big Airbnb.

That's where I'm going to go afterwards because I want to see it.

Apparently, it's really nice.

And there's like a rooftop deck with the TV.

So that's where I'm going to head after this.

Where was I going with this story?

About our Patreon.

Oh.

No, well, always patreon.com/slash the toast.

But I got my spray tan last night.

Shannon has a full-blown machine.

And when I tell you, I think it's just as good as any like professional spray.

She was legit, like doing the hand motions, like

really going at it.

She's like, spread your thumbs, turn to the side.

ninja like she was really killing it amazing yeah you do look good and tan thank you good and tan

when i'm good and ready i'm good and tan

okay should we dive in yeah let's dive in we actually have really um

real stories for a friday and for that i am grateful Me too.

There's a story I'm excited to talk about, like an influencer drama thing that's going on on TikTok.

And of course, we're coming in with a hot take that no one's gonna agree with.

Can't wait for it.

So now without further ado, here are the fast five stories that you need to know.

Is it you or you?

You.

Okay, cool.

Yeah.

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Thank you, Claudia.

You're welcome, Jackie.

Our first story, a little legal news.

Ed Sheeron has been found not liable in a copyright lawsuit.

He says he feels the truth was heard and believed.

So a jury has found Ed Sheeran not liable in a lawsuit filed against him for alleged copyright infringement over his 2014 single, Thinking Out Loud.

He was accused of lifting direct elements of the Marvin Gaye classic song, Let's Get It On, for this Grammy winning single, Thinking Out Loud.

The unanimous verdict was reached after about a three-hour deliberation by seven jurors in a New York City courtroom on Thursday.

Ed said, quote, I feel like the truth was heard and the truth was believed.

It's nice that we can both move on with our lives now.

It's sad that it had to come to this.

He was like really

spinning out, rattled by this whole situation.

He had said earlier this week, like if the case didn't go his way, he was like quitting music because like this is his artist.

He lost all faith in the process.

He also said that he missed his grandmother's funeral, I think, because because he had to be in New York for the trial.

So like Ed Sheeran is pissed.

And while the trial was happening, I wasn't keeping up with it.

And I don't know how thinking out loud is similar to Let's Get It On.

But I assume they had like a good case if they were pursuing it.

But apparently like the estate of Marvin Gaye just like tries to

everyone for everything.

Yeah, apparently it's just like a thirsty estate, you know, going after everyone.

And how they were similar is that like basically most popular songs consist of like a four chords like repeated and there are only so many chords out there so it was like the same four chords but I see these videos on tick tock all the time it's like did you know that this song and this song have the same four chords and like oh if you listen to it yeah there are only so many ways to like on a guitar or piano like create a song at its core it's not that crazy it's not that uncommon and it really was like a

not it really wasn't clearly because the jury agreed there wasn't that much evidence that it was a copycat like there are certain coincidences coincidences, and similarities in the songwriting and music making process.

And this was just one of them.

And, like, Ed Sheeran was fucking pissed.

Like, not me and never seeing him angry before.

Like, he was like, I will quit.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Let's like be okay with parallel thinking.

One.

And two, I actually pride myself.

A talent of mine is being able to hear a song and tell you like...

a similar song or like something that has like a similar element.

And the fact that I didn't catch this, I just feel like they should have had me on the witness stand because this was not a match.

No, Ben does that too.

He'll be listening to a song.

He'll be like, wait, he's literally like a mathematician.

Like, wait one second.

And then he'll literally look through his Spotify for the song he's looking for.

And you know what?

He does make a really good call.

Like, sometimes these songs sound so familiar.

Yeah, no, I have a few that come to mind, but one that's just like so underrated is

The Beginning of Honky Tonk Highway and Rockstar by Hannah Montana.

And another one I don't know maroon who

maroon by Taylor Swift and 100% by Claudia Ashre yeah that one it honestly you have a case no I know yeah

I think that a lot about songs but that's just like we're all like all these people are just writing popularly in the same inspired

yeah but like there are only so many instruments so many chords so many words like it's not that crazy I don't hear the similarities at all and it just seems so obvious like okay it's clear that like the estate of Marvin Gaye is like on this like war path, like they're suing people left and right.

And to go after, like, Ed Sheeran for thinking out loud is just like the biggest song ever.

Like, it's just so obvious.

Yeah, especially, like, it's embarrassing that they didn't have a case.

And now, whatever case they bring forward next, like, I'm not going to take it seriously because, also, like, typically you would take something like this seriously.

People don't go to court and sue their artistic property, especially posthumously without.

Well, that's like, this makes me think of Tom Petty

Estate suing Sam Smith and winning for stay with me

and what was Tom Petty's song I'm not I don't remember but they won because they're really the songs were exactly the same damn right so you would think like there's a case but there's no case here and I feel like this chips away at people who do have a real claim Yeah, like it also chips away at the integrity of all future lawsuits coming from the gay estate.

100%.

100%.

100%.

So I'm glad Ed saw this through.

I'm sorry he missed his grandma's funeral.

I'm glad it went his way and that he'll continue to make math-based records.

Yeah, his album Subtract is coming out soon.

It's really important for the math community that Ed Sheeran not quit the industry.

Yeah, you know, I was watching Young Sheldon last night, my absolute favorite show about the boy genius, Sheldon Lee Cooper.

And he, if only Young Sheldon were alive to see

what

Ed Sheeran has done, he would have loved Ed Sheeran.

You think?

100%.

Math-based music that he could get down to?

100%.

Do you know who loves young Sheldon?

Who?

Dana.

I have to talk to her about it.

She would.

She is young Sheldon.

Literally.

Young Sheldon needs a girlfriend in the show called Dana.

A young Dana.

I got to the episode last night where like he like falls in love with this girl.

And she's like, he's in high school, but he's nine years old.

And this girl's like 17.

And she wants to take him to like an IMAX movie in Houston, which is like a two-hour drive away.

So Sheldon's mom's like, I need to meet this girl.

And she meets the girl and the girl is lovely.

And the girl says, don't worry, Mrs.

Cooper.

I've babysat before.

And Sheldon is crushed because he didn't realize this girl was like babysitting.

He really felt like this girl loved him.

I'm depressed.

Thank you for that.

It reminds me of that story of that nine-year-old who's going to college.

Jackie, every time I watch Young Sheldon, I think about that story that we reported on the toast a few weeks, well, months ago, I think.

And I just hope, I mean, the grads are grading right now, so he probably doesn't start until the fall.

And I'm just thinking of him, like every once in a while, I'm thinking of him, and I hope that college is everything that he deserves it to be.

And everything he imagined it would be.

Yeah, even at age nine, because I'm sure it's hard to have a proper college experience at age nine.

Right, right.

Right.

Thinking of him today and always.

Yes.

Are you ready for our next story?

Yes.

I know you're not going to care, but I love to close the loop on a Bebe name.

And Chloe and Tristan's baby boy's name has finally been revealed according to the U.S.

Sun, which is so fucking random.

But the couple has named their baby boy who was born last summer, Tatum Robert.

By the way, I do care.

I saw this and I was shocked at how normal it was, like just like a name I had heard before, not a name that was made up.

Yeah,

I agree.

She said she was going to do a T-name.

There are only so many T-names out there.

I think Tatum is a really beautiful name.

Then you add the Robert, which is very significant to Chloe, and I think it's beautiful.

I like it a lot, actually.

Like, it's so kind of like Instagram blogger, mommy blogger.

Like, it's so not Kardashian.

Yeah, Tatum Robert Thompson.

That's a nice name.

It's very, it has like a kingly sort of stature to it.

It's very

like respectable.

Brother of Truesdale Thompson.

Right.

True and Tatum is so cute.

She's obviously sticking with the T theme, which like I just hate because the T is obviously for Tristan.

Or Thompson, like because she likes how her first name and her last name correspond.

So her kids are Thompsons, so they're T's.

That's actually a really good call.

Oh, and you know what was nice?

So like even when everyone was calling him Tristan third trimester Thompson, that still was all T's.

It was an alliteration, so at least they could sleep easy.

Right, knowing that while he was the most hated man in America, at least they were staying on brand.

Do you know what I watched recently?

Like last week, it was just on TV and I was just watching cable.

Chloe and Lamar's wedding?

No, the episodes of Kardashians where Tristan smooched Jordan Woods.

Oof, darling.

All those clips always come up on my TikTok.

It was really crazy to watch back because at the time it was the biggest deal.

And even watching it again, like it was just

the craziest thing.

No, and by the way, something we didn't even talk about because I feel like I don't remember when it happened, but recently it was announced Red Table Talk is canceled because I talked about it with Olivia.

Oh, Facebook watch is kaput, yeah.

But Olivia and I both concluded that we think that it will get picked up by a network because it's there all for sale.

All those shows are kind of for sale now, or like a YouTube originals because it really was good as like a web show, yeah.

yeah.

I think it won't be the last time we see the table that is red.

No, and when we think about like all the iconic moments, like of course, Jordan Woods, Olivia Jade, like they really were like out there doing the most on red table talk.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But it was just so absolutely crazy time.

It was a crazy time, that Jordan thing.

Like I literally remember where we were.

We were in Utah on family vacation and you and I did like an emergency podcast.

It was, we couldn't believe it.

It was Scandoval level.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, but not as crazy as scandal because like an affair versus a kiss are very different.

No, and honestly, I can't think of anything that's happened in the last 10 years that is as crazy as Scandivall.

Like I know that sounds crazy, but it is by far the most mind-blowing thing that's ever happened to me.

Like for real.

I understand.

And it's not even happening to me.

It's not even happening to me, Jags.

I understand.

Well, speaking of Scandival, actually, I'm going to swap the stories around because our next story is a little Bravo Vanderpump news.

Okay.

Lisa Vanderpump is closing her beloved LA restaurant pump for good.

Lisa Vanderpump's pump restaurant and lounge in West Hollywood is closing its doors after 10 years of business on July 5th.

She told e-news: It's with heavy hearts that we announced that the lease at Pump Restaurant is expiring.

She explained that they had previously signed a 10-year lease, but when it came time to renew, the price had increased too significantly, and it wasn't something that they were ready to commit to.

After successfully running 37-plus establishments for many years, this type of rent is untenable.

She didn't specify how much the rent would increase, but sources told TMZ that it would cost a million dollars a year to lease the space.

However, the landlord for Pump denied both the source and Vanderpump's claims and said to page six that it's not accurate, quote, we did not raise the rent and, in fact, have been nothing but supportive as they tried to catch up on lease obligations, including forgiving some rent during COVID.

All right.

Well, I don't, I feel weird about a landlord who talks to page six, honestly.

Like, that's crazy.

No, but like, if the landlord didn't say anything, we'd be like, you know, these landlords, like, they're just raising rents.

Rents are crazy.

So, I do think, like, it's germane to the story that he say we didn't raise the rent.

But how do you not raise the rent with, like, that's what I'm saying?

After 10 years and with inflation, like, all real estate rents are going up.

They have prime location in West Hollywood.

Like, raising the rent is

it's not unfathomable that he would raise the rent, like, especially after 10 years and given all the economic circumstances.

Honestly, her first statement made a ton of sense to me.

Like, if the rent went up so much, I'm sure not all of your restaurants are as popular as they used to be.

Like, I wouldn't even consider this a failure.

I think, like, the restaurant business is so hard, and having a popular establishment in West Hollywood for 10 years is actually a huge accomplishment.

But now that knowing that the rent actually wasn't increased, which also sounds like a lie to me, because you're right, even in the best of economic times, after 10 years, rent changes.

That's just how like the market works.

Even if it goes up by like a $1,000, rents change.

Right, right.

And I do think that Pump is a success.

They had a 10-year run.

And now some of her other restaurants are bigger, like Tom Tom.

Surazavi is really big.

I feel like there is not really a place for pump right now.

Like it's just not as

necessary as it once was.

You know what's crazy is like we were watching the show when pump was being built.

And so that was 10 years ago.

Like I could vomit.

Like that's insane.

That is insane, but it's full circle.

Also La Villa Blanca closed down.

But she has Vanderpump Cocktail Garden at Caesars Palace in Vegas.

And that is literally when you get to Vegas level, like you're like so rich.

Like I think she's fine.

Yeah, no, I think she has two places in Vegas.

No, I'm not worried about her.

And I think like sometimes things come to an end and it's not like they were evicted.

It was like the lease, we had to reassess it and it just doesn't make financial sense.

Like, okay, great.

Yeah.

Moving on.

Yeah.

And I'm also not in my like hating Vanderpump era like I was many years ago.

Like everything she did, I was like, oh my God.

Like I've come to actually, she's endearing herself to me quite a bit.

So I'm okay with this.

Rest in peace.

Rip, pump, rip.

Yeah, the more I think about it, the more it makes sense.

Pump is kind of like doesn't have a place in the Vanderpump ecosystem right now.

It just doesn't.

Like Tom Pump is literally right down the street.

Every event that they do, they do it at TomTom.

And Sir is still the hub.

Great.

Trim the fat.

Trim the fat.

Is Lisa at all involved in something about her?

She's like helping them with the lease and she's like going to the sandwich and they said they're going to take on investors.

Like I'm sure she's going to be a part of it.

I don't think she, I mean, she said like over and over again, she's not investing.

I think she has taken on this advisor role.

One, because she likes Katie and Ariana, but two, it's her role in the show.

Yeah.

But like it would like it's such a smaller operation.

It's not a bar So they don't need like a liquor license It's like gonna be much cheaper She should just invest a little especially now that like everyone's so team Ariana and Katie like they're gonna they're gonna destroy the fans destroy shorts and sandy's and make this the number one sandwich shop in West Hollywood.

Yeah, no, it would be a good investment, but as of right now, she's not slated to invest.

Right.

Her role, though, is just like a little weird.

It makes sense in the context of the show.

And all she did was like connect them with her realtor.

It's not like she was out there counting a paper sheet.

But like she knew that they had gotten approved for the lease before they did.

Yeah, but like

Lisa Show Tings.

Yes.

Lisa Show Tings.

Lisa Show Tings.

Anyways, goodbye to Pump.

You had a nice

one.

Rip Pump.

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You're welcome, Jackie.

Our next story, SNL revealed the final two hosts that were booked before the Writer

strike shut down.

They had booked Kieran Culkin and Jennifer Coolidge as the final season 48 hosts, and as we talked about yesterday, Pete Davidson.

But SNL fans will have to wait a bit longer for the return of new episodes due to the ongoing Writers Guild of America union strike.

People has confirmed the NBC series will not produce any more new episodes this season, including Kieran Kulkid's slated return and Jennifer Coolidge's big debut.

That would have been her first time hosting.

And honestly,

we're we're suffering.

Our loss.

Our loss.

That's really tough for everyone.

Those are both.

I watched Kiernan's last year.

I feel like he's like on this thing now where, like, whenever succession is on, he like gets booked on SNL.

His last one was so good.

Um,

that sucks.

Like, that just fucking sucks for us.

By the way, this WGA strike is like, it's everywhere.

Yeah, it's everywhere.

We were sending each other's stuff back and forth yesterday.

Like, there's a lot of new, there's a ton of news surrounding it.

A lot of people are dropping out or not participating in events in support of the writer's strike.

The writer's strike signs are going viral because they're like like pretty shady,

funny, shady.

Yeah.

There's just a lot.

Yeah, there is a lot.

I do have a question because I feel like I think a lot of like major celebrities like throwing their weight behind the WGA is like actually helpful.

Like I saw Cynthia Nixon was down there.

Chesse from Parent Trap was down there like throwing their support.

A lot of people are pulling out like John Mulaney pulled out of this event because he's like a writer to his core.

Then I also saw like Lala Kent pulling out of like appearances and I don't understand how that helps the writers.

I felt the same thing.

Lala Kent is like not going to an award show.

And I was like, How does that help the writers?

I don't understand.

Like, maybe it does.

Like, maybe it does, but I don't understand how.

So, just like drop it in the comments.

Explain it to me.

Yeah.

Explain to me how it helps the writers because I'm hella confused.

But also, like, if I was a celebrity and there was like an event I really didn't want to do, or like, didn't want to go, or like, a job I didn't want to take, I'd be like, oh, you know what?

I support the writers, and I do support the writers, so I wouldn't even be lying.

But you'll notice no one skipped the Met Gala in support of the writers.

well the met gala is actually not like a hollywood like they're protesting the networks i also misspoke yesterday when i said it was just nbc it's all of them it's the streamers it's everything um

and i don't think that the met gala really has anything to do with like networks and cable and streamers no no it doesn't but like a lot of some of these events don't have much to do with like the writers

that's true it's that's true It feels just like picky and choosy.

You know, it used to be like how you used to be like, oh, I can't come.

I have COVID.

Or, oh, I was exposed.

Yeah, by the way, did you watch that Amanda Seaford interview I was telling you about yesterday?

I saw one clip.

How fucking funny was it?

Really funny.

I love her passion.

You know what it was reminding me of?

It was great, man.

You know what it was reminding me of?

Vanessa Hudgens' COVID video.

You know what it was reminding me of?

It's terrible.

But inevitable.

No, it was reminding me of, because it's just the way she's talking is so weird.

It's also the stuff coming out of her mouth, but she's kind of drunk.

Like, dude, like the fuck?

Like, give the writers what they bun.

Like, and it was like that video when like this sneaker company or like kind of like a hype beast, I forget, like YouTube channel did a video with Bella Hadid in a sneaker store.

And she's like, if my dude rolling up in these kicks, he's fresh, man.

And everyone fucking roasts her.

Like, what are you talking about?

She was like, if, if homeboy, if homeboy's gonna get in these shoes, like, he's gonna get it.

That's what she said.

If he's rolling up in these shoes, homeboy's gonna get it.

Cringe.

Cringe.

But I also have never really heard Amanda Seifried speak out of character, like out of a role.

So maybe that's just her personality.

Dude, like, fuck, man.

Like, get the writers.

It's literally so fucking funny.

Like, I don't think I'll ever get over it.

It's the best clip of all time.

She's so passionate, and she also has no fucking idea what's going on.

It's beautiful.

Combination.

Beautiful combination.

It's a beautiful combination.

Yeah.

So sad for Jennifer Coolidge on SNL, but also why wasn't she on earlier this season?

Like her big moments of the year, like were kind of a few months ago.

I feel like she could have been on sooner and we could have avoided this.

And she also could have been on when the last White Lotus premiered.

So I just kind of feel like SNL is kind of bandwagoning off of her success.

No, they waited too long and they were too stubborn.

And look, look what happened.

It's the one you got.

Yeah.

This is their fault.

Right.

Like when White Lotus was on, she could have been on SNL.

When she was doing like her like Emmy campaigning, she was all over.

She could have been on then.

No, they waited till like she's literally irrelevant now.

Well, that's not irrelevant, but you know what I mean?

Like she's not

on the name on everybody's lips currently.

Yeah.

Who would you say is the name on everybody's lips currently?

Like today.

Changes day to day.

That's an amazing question.

Yeah.

Let me think.

Hold on.

Honestly, it's like still everyone from Vanderpump Rules.

It's so crazy.

Did you think they were talking about Vanderpump Rules on The View yesterday?

Yeah, because J-Lo was on.

J-Lo was on and WhoopiGoldberg was like, Do you watch Vanner Prump Rules?

Yeah, and J-Lo, I saw that she said, like, if Ben did that to her, like, she would walk out the door.

Well, I hope so.

Wow.

Hot take, J-Lo.

Duh.

Also, this is so random, but I was watching these videos these morning.

I have to start sending it to you, but I want to give a shout out to somebody who I've started following on TikTok.

His username is Heart Throbert.

And he does these rewatch videos.

He's watching Seventh Heaven.

And we used to watch Seventh Heaven growing up, and we loved it.

And I guess we didn't realize how absolutely fucking moronic it is because they're trying to tackle these like real-life issues in like this really old school, like PC Christian family pastor kind of way.

So they're trying to do this.

They're doing this episode on like drug addiction, but they're not going to do actual drugs in the show.

You know, this is a nice family.

So the kids in the family, two of them, get into uh

like herbal energy pills

so they're like up all night in the courtyard playing basketball and then like the girl that she's playing with from her high school takes like a whole handful of herbal energy pills and has a heart attack and has to go to the hospital And Jackie, these videos are so funny.

You forget how fucking moronic this show was.

I will send them to you.

I just, I think everybody needs to go watch these videos.

It's in his rewatch playlist.

I was watching them this morning with Ben cackling.

They did an episode on gang violence.

And there's this girl at the high school who has a gun under her bed.

Like, it's so stupid.

That's crazy.

And then it's also crazier that the father, the Reverend, is a pedophile in real life.

Yeah.

So in his videos, instead of calling the dad the pastor, he calls him the pedophile.

It's so funny.

That was the best videos.

That was crazy.

What's his name?

Steven, like something.

Is he in jail?

I think so.

That was low-key.

And like the show, like Jessica Beale is in the show.

Like, it's so crazy.

Beverly Mitchell.

Beverly Mitchell.

Good times.

That's crazy that Jessica Beale is in the show, though.

I know.

That's like how we know her.

That's how she is, who she is.

Seventh Heaven.

Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah.

Well, are you ready for our fifth and final story?

I am.

I'm ready to get into it.

It's little influencer TikTok drama that I'm also going to need you to explain a little bit because I'm not understanding like the alleged crimes.

Okay.

Beauty brand Tarte has apologized for a miscommunication after a TikTok influencer claims she was treated like a second tier person on a proposed brand trip.

So the beauty brand Tarte has apologized for a miscommunication that led a TikTok creator to feel slighted and pull out of a brand trip slated for the hotly anticipated Miami Grand Prix auto racing event this weekend.

But what may have started as a miscommunication has spun into a heated dialogue about bias and privilege.

Brea Jones is a lifestyle influencer with 458,000 followers.

She shared her frustrations in a viral TikTok on Wednesday, saying she felt she was treated like a second-tier person, quote.

Bria said, quote, I'll be damned as a black creator if I accept anything other than equal treatment on these trips.

She said that she did receive an invite to Sunday's race, but that it was rescinded due to a typo.

She also acknowledged that her numbers are not like some of these other creators, assuming that was the reason she was left out of Sunday's affairs, but she said being excluded made her feel less than.

Because she was not invited to watch the Formula One race on Sunday after discovering her other influencer friends would be attending.

However, she wound up deactivating her account by Thursday, telling Insider that she had received online bullying and death threats after Tarte's CEO responded to her video.

In the CEO's video, and then in a statement to Insider from the CMO of the company, the company said that a miscommunication stemmed from the fact that arrivals and departures were staggered for all creators the brand had invited to the three-day event, and that no creators were given preferential treatment over others.

Amid some confusion and the TikTok community taking sides,

this is what we know about.

Let me explain.

Let me explain.

Let me explain.

Thank you.

So, Tarte is doing another influencer trip.

They just did one in Turks and Caicos, which is now being brought into the conversation.

But the conversation started about the Formula F1 thing in Miami.

So, this girl was basically like, I'm was going.

I was so excited.

And I was like talking to my other influencer friends.

And this girl who made the video, Bria, her flight, she was looking, was like scheduled to leave.

I don't know if this is the right day, but let's say like Saturday.

And the Formula One race is Thursday.

Okay.

And the Formula One race is on Friday.

She's on Sunday.

And she was like, tart, whatever.

Sorry.

So she was basically like brought on the trip, but she wasn't going to stay till the end.

And so they had basically had people coming for different amounts of time.

And I'm sure like the really famous or, you know, lots of followers people were getting to stay till the main event.

But not everyone, you know, they're limited in how many rooms they had and whatever.

So they, I'm sure, they said they weren't doing it on based on treatment, but I think they should just be honest and say that they were because this is a business.

Like, of course, like if we want content made on Sunday with the race, we want the girl with 10 million followers.

Like, it's not crazy to say that.

And then everybody just started having conversations.

Like, yeah, well, you know, they just did this whole week in Turks and Caicos and they had like shifts of people coming in and everybody was doing room tours.

And it was like, well, this person got a big suite with a slide and this person didn't only have one window.

And now they're like, they're treating people, you know, based on their followers and

ranking them.

And it's like, yeah, is that bad?

Like, it's, it's a brand trip, not a charity trip.

Like, if I had a brand and I was spending, they probably spent a shit ton of money.

I want the people who have the most to offer me.

I'm going to offer them the most too.

Right.

And you want them to come.

So

if you want them to come to your Formula One weekend, but they're not getting a ticket to Formula One, like they might, those bigger accounts might not come, but the smaller accounts might come because like that.

that's enticing to you.

That might be the only opportunity that they have, where it's like somebody with 11 million followers, if they want to go to F1, like there's a million brands that'll take them.

Right.

It's the same thing as like, you know, someone with more followers being paid more for that weekend than someone with less followers.

Right.

Because you're just like being paid based on the exposure.

So I think you've said that like Tarte doesn't necessarily pay their influencers for these trips.

So the accommodations and the perks are the payment.

So the more your rate is,

then the more perks that you would get like that makes sense.

Nobody gets paid to go on these trips.

So I don't know if we would be having this conversation if people were mad that somebody with 10 million followers got paid 100 grand for the trip and somebody somebody with 500 000 followers got paid 10 grand for the trip i think that i think that

i honestly well that's but i would sorry that's not how the world works i would disagree with that

i would too like accommodations in this scenario are the form of payment.

So length of your stay, room type.

And I saw Brianna Chicken Fry actually made a good video about it because she was like, I got a shit room.

And like, I didn't care.

One, because it was just like we were having fun.

And two, because like, I know how many followers I have.

And I know that, like, when you look at the people who were there, like some of them have like 15 million followers.

Like it is a ranking system.

And I think it's okay to say that because I don't think that's necessarily bad.

It's the same way like at any sort of job, somebody with more seniority and more skill or whatever gets paid more.

It's, it's a ranking system.

That's, that's the capitalist world we live in.

And I don't know if there's some necessarily anything wrong with that.

No, I think there's nothing wrong with it.

I think it's foolish to think that it should be.

a different way or like that and also at the end of the day like all you girls are going on a free fucking trip with all these perks like staying at Prince's old house on the beach, like having the time of your fucking life.

So, your room was smaller than someone else's?

Like, tiny violins.

I'm sorry.

I don't care.

Yeah.

No, I agree.

And I think there's a difference.

And I didn't see her cite any of this, but like, if people from the company were actually treating her differently in like a personable way, like, that's wrong.

Like, that is wrong.

But that's not what I saw.

And maybe, maybe I didn't see

more stuff.

But what I saw was basically like valuing, you know, room types and length of stays and, you you know, how much product you got in your room.

I got three concealers.

She got two.

Like that, I think is like petty.

And again, these are unreal opportunities.

And I honestly think Tarte would be better off being totally honest and being like, yeah, of course, like the person with 15 million followers is going to get the suite on the top floor.

And the person with 200,000 followers.

And you know what's so crazy is like in the grand scheme of

TikTok and this girl has 450,000 followers, like that's really low comparatively in the beauty space.

Like that's low.

It is.

Yeah, agreed.

Also, Tarte, when they were trying to, like, explain their, I think the, the Turks and Caicos trip, like, was clearly based on following hierarchy rooms, et cetera.

But this F1 trip, they tried to clarify the varying schedules, saying that every creator that was invited was asked to come for a three-day duration, staggered throughout the week.

So for some creators, those three days included the actual race.

For other creators, it was just like three days leading up to Formula One in Miami.

And they said the entire event was three days and to spread the love we had invited many creators to join us each for one of the three days all creators had an equal itinerary with one day at the race one dinner and one nightclub event and no one was staying longer than anyone else she added that creators with all different size followings were invited across the three days right so so if you don't want to rank based on following then only the big creators would be invited in the future like right is that better

No, I don't think so.

I don't think so.

No, I will say, like, in terms of makeup, I feel like for the last couple of years, Tarte has kind of like fell to the back burner.

They were really hot for a while.

And then, like, all these other brands popped up.

And I think people forgot about Tarte.

But they've really been doing a good job of like, especially with these trips and in, you know, TikTok, which is like the center of the beauty space now.

It's not YouTube anymore.

They're really killing it.

And I honestly think conversations like this are, you know, at the end of the day, good for the brand because we're talking about Tarte.

And I also, I really, I don't, I haven't heard anything that I feel like they did anything wrong.

Yeah.

no i and you know and by the way i am sympathetic like it definitely sucks to like be on a trip and like know that like you're you know considered like less valuable or or or

less important because of followers which is just like this abstract like i get it like on a personal level like that sucks like i totally get it but i don't think really like anyone who was invited on the trip like really has anything to complain about based on what i've seen yeah also the uh founder had made like a tick tock video talking about how she was like sad that Bria had felt this way.

And that also

they didn't realize people would like be upset about like what's going on on the track.

Like she said, I wasn't thinking what's going on in the track.

I was just thinking how we can get people to have this most fabulous experience.

It's like, of course,

the fucking race would be so important to people.

Yeah.

And by the way, like, I'm sure, because like TikTok in general is crazy, the beauty community is like so, like, the fact that this girl had to deactivate her account when she was just like sharing her experience, even though maybe I don't necessarily agree with it, like that sucks.

And I'm sure she's like bugging into having the worst week ever.

Yeah, because it goes like, you know, the mob just goes from here to there to here to there.

So when she first posts her video, they're all like, yeah, why isn't everyone treated the same?

And then they hear the response, like, and they're like, well, why are you complaining that you didn't get to stay one extra day on your glamorous free trip?

And it's just,

it's in, it's impossible.

And then it just, it gets so dark.

It gets so dark.

So I do feel bad for this creator if she's getting like mean messages and it's nobody deserves that it's impossible

it's impossible to win and while i don't agree i think like everyone needs to calm the

down

yeah

yeah

but like

it's just no at the end of the day like tart tart is running a business this is you know a business this is not like a free-for-all free-for-all charity.

Like for them to be intentional with room giveaways, that to me, that's smart business sense.

If I was running a brand trip and somebody who had 15 million followers agreed to come, bitch, they could have my room.

They could have my fucking room.

Okay.

Yeah.

Also, it seems like the Turks and Caiko setup and the Miami one were different in terms of like what perks were given.

And if anything, sure, because the Miami trip might have been a little more equitable just because it was like three days for everyone.

I'm sure they're saying like in hotels and not like a house where there's only like some rooms are bigger than other rooms.

They can't rebuild the house.

They're not going to build a house that's like has equal rooms

for every brand trips.

For the brand trips.

Yeah, but it's just an interesting conversation that's being had on TikTok.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I don't know.

Complain talk is like one of my least favorite trends on TikTok.

I don't disagree.

Yeah.

So that's what, that's what you missed.

Ungly.

And that's your final episode of the week.

On Monday, Jax and I are back in the studio.

I'll be back in New York.

Make sure to be following me on Instagram and make sure to join the Patreon because we're going to get some sickening content and we're going to make vlogs and get ready with me's.

And I'm so excited.

And Jax, I miss you so much.

Like it's not the same, even though I'm staying at this hotel and I'm the one that you were supposed to stay at.

And I know you would fucking hate it here.

Like I can just tell this aesthetic is so not your vibe.

Like I walked in, I'm like, honestly, it's like a cool hotel, you know?

So it's like loud and there's like bar and and drunk people.

Oh my God, I got in the elevator last night after Shannon sprayed me and I'm like not wearing my shoes.

And I couldn't figure out how to swipe the fucking key to like press my room number.

I hate that shit, even though it's like good for security.

So they take me up to the rooftop bar, even though I didn't press anything.

And these like gaggle of like drunk elders got in.

They're literally standing on my feet, like, love your shoes.

Where are they from?

Oh my gosh.

Screaming in my face.

And I was like, you know what?

Blessed be the Lord that Jackie's not here.

Yeah.

Well, I'm sure that you also came like at night.

It's It's a big weekend in Asheville.

There's all the grads.

Like, maybe today will be a little

more civilized.

Well, we're going to get this episode uploaded for you guys, and then we're on our way.

We'll be back on Monday.

Jackson, love ya.

Love ya.

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