Liv and Let Live with Olivia Oshry: Monday, May 1st, 2023

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Good morning, Millennials.

Welcome back to the morning toast.

Happy Monday.

It is the first Monday in May, which is iconic for so many reasons, but the most important reason it's important today is because Altivia Ashre is here.

Our big sis, Olivia, is joining me today because Claudia is off gallivanting in Palm Springs at Stagecoach with our other sister.

It's just like kind of war of the sisters.

But Liv, Troutskin, how are you?

Thank you for joining us.

Hi, Angel.

Well, thank you so much for having me.

I have like so many things to say right off the bat because one, you said the morning toast, which I feel like is actually,

but it's perfect for me because I legitimately have not been on this show in like,

I obviously have, I haven't been on the show since it's been called the toast, but it's been years.

So, like, it feels like the throwback is almost like semi-intentional for me.

And I so appreciate that.

It's not.

I did it on Thursday too, and Claudia called me out.

And I guess typically she does the intro after Give Morning Millennials.

So, like, I haven't had to correct myself.

Do it.

And it took her like weeks to stop saying morning.

And I just didn't even think about it.

Welcome back to the toast in the morning, of course, but not the morning toast.

Damn.

The one and only.

Yeah.

And also first Monday in May.

First of all, like, how the fuck is it May?

Like, that's really alarming to me.

Like, we're halfway through the year.

I feel like legitimately it was just New Year's.

Like, am I the only person that feels that way?

It's like bizarre.

Things are really like going so fast, but the days feel so motherfucking long.

But I'm also shook it that like we are almost really halfway through the year.

Yeah, but we're not halfway through the year until the end of June, correct?

Correct.

But like, we're so, we're basically there.

Okay, sure.

Like, we're in month five of the year already.

It's just, I don't know.

It's blowing my mind.

It's blowing my mind.

It's crazy.

Well, everyone's going to be so excited that you are joining me today because, as we said, you haven't been on the toast in so long.

Probably years.

I can't even remember the last time.

Definitely not since you've moved to Florida.

So for everyone listening, can we get like a little live catch-up?

Like, what's new with you?

How are you?

What's live up to?

What's live up to?

I'm good.

I'm just living my best life here in Florida.

You know, I think also you and I were talking about this not that long ago, but the reason why the world feels like it's moving so fast is because Levi is already six months and I'm like not mentally prepared to be having like a six month old.

And then Kay's birthday is in May.

She's turning three.

So that's what's up with me.

It's just like time is flying.

I know people say like it goes so fast, cherish it.

And I always like kind of roll my eyes when I hear that because it's like annoying, but it's so true it's like really

depressing and happy all at the same time I know I feel like I get so many targeted videos on reels and all of them are about like parenting and kids and they're so nice but there are so many that are just all about like how the time goes so quickly and you know it's like they have that new trend where they play that song and it's like the kid is young and then it switches songs and the kid is like older and it's so nice but like it's really kind of like fucking depressing and can't we just like enjoy and not just like talk about how quickly it's going and how quickly it's going to go yeah there's this new um tick tock slash reel going around i've seen it like three times in the last 24 hours and it's like you only have like 15 spring breaks 10 proms one first date like cherish it all and it's like it's weenie but it's also true like no do you know what i mean okay i understand that it's true but it's like stop counting like stop counting just live it's a it that really stresses me out.

And I find it to be so unnecessary.

Yeah.

Live and let live.

You know, that should be the name of this podcast episode.

Okay.

I will consider it if nothing better comes up.

And if I find that that is like a constant theme of the episode, that we are living and letting live.

Absolutely.

YOLO is another one I could present.

You only live once, you know, if you just want to be on the live theme.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't know.

Okay, we'll see.

We'll see where the episode takes us, but I'm not opposed.

I'm not opposed.

Thank you for being so open-minded.

I really appreciate that about you.

Oh, my God.

That's so sweet.

Thanks.

You actually really are one of the most open-minded people I've ever met.

You know, like you just, you're a pleasure to have a conversation with.

Oh, my God.

This is just compliment hour, is it?

We never like talked, we never, since we never podcast together, we never have to like talk to each other like podcasters.

We can just like, you know, totally, totally.

Fucker.

And I feel like actually, like, the last time I did the toast, the morning toast, it was with Claudia.

Like, I don't know when I've ever done an episode, even just with you.

We do a lot of Patreon.

We do episodes.

Yeah.

We do a lot of patrons.

And also, when we were both brides, like, I remember you came on a lot when Claudia was on the dirty jeans tour.

That was really when we were vibing.

That was like a century ago at this point.

Literally.

I've lived 17 lives since then.

Same.

And we're going to get into all the stories today.

I'm going to put you to work, you know, typical toast.

But before we do, do, I think you and I like need to talk about our sisters,

Snatchler and Snatchler 2

in Palm Springs.

Have you been following?

I mean, how could you not be following their weekend?

Claudia and Margo are at stagecoach

and they just look insanely sickening.

Sickening.

Sickening beyond belief.

It's a pleasure to watch them.

It is a pleasure.

And I feel like I,

as you know, just kind of this suburban mom, am living vicariously through them.

Like every time I see Claudia or Margot or Shannon like somebody come up on my Instagram where there's like new content it's like I legitimately am probably the first person to click

you're the second because I'm the first no I re-watch it I'm like so enthralled by it and like I would say this to Margo openly like when she posts from a concert like I'll be the first to tap through because like I don't find it appealing but this is a whole other level like I I hope that they save all their stories they could turn it into a documentary and I would watch it every night before I go to sleep.

You're weight.

That's a little like.

No, but you know what I mean.

It's just like

the type of content that I hope never dies because it will continue to resurface.

I'm sitting at home and it's like seven o'clock.

I'm like, okay, well, it's four o'clock in California.

Maybe they're dressed for the day and they posted their outfits.

Totally.

Shipping girls are so invested.

Did you, have you spoken to your sisters?

Like, are they having a good time?

I'm like, I don't fucking need to speak to them.

They're having the time of their lives.

Yeah, no.

And you know, Claudia is going to come on the toast tomorrow and spill all and tell us every detail.

And I'm really excited to hear.

I did talk to her today and they are confirmed having a good time.

But I do get the sense because it's the truth that like having a good time is exhausting.

Oh, absolutely.

In 100 degree heat, like how could you,

you know, there's that, there's that always like 1% of trech that, and plus it being in a festival, right?

Like the thing about a festival is like you're going to the bathroom in a porter potty, you're waiting online for a drink, you're being shoved in the mosh pit of a crowd.

Like there's just certain things about a festival that are just festival life, but it looks just primo, demo,

weimo, you know?

Yeah, no, I'm definitely a proud big sis living vicariously through.

What's been your favorite outfit of theirs?

Do you think?

Ooh, I just literally saw Claudia's outfit for today, and she was wearing like this kind of like checkerboard pattern, like sweater vest-y sort of thing set.

And I was like, damn girl, like she was looking straight fire flames.

And then Margo's blue outfit yesterday, I think, like, crushed.

So, those I would say, I think, are my top two right now.

But, like, I don't know.

Honestly, the denim skirt on Claudia, like so not prepared for that moment.

And it is etched in my memory forever.

Yeah.

Um, I love Claudia's day two outfit, the green dress.

The green dress, of course.

And Margo's day two outfit, the blue outfit, like obsessed.

She like made a little TikTok video.

I was like, it just like wasn't long enough.

And you were standing too far away from the camera.

Like we didn't get to see enough.

I'm like referring to every story.

I'm like, show it from this angle.

Like when she took a picture and like sent it to the steens, like when they were first dressed, I like, it was jarring.

I'm like, whoa, my phone is going to blow up from it's overheating, you know?

Yeah, it was, it was too hot to handle.

Too hot to handle.

That's for sure.

Whoa, I'm so excited for the episode to hear all the things.

You know, because I am admittedly like a selective toast listener because

I feel like I talk to you guys every second of every day that I like, I know your take on everything.

I know what you do with your lives so thus I don't necessarily have to expend the hour plus a day because I'm living it

nor do I always have the hour plus a day you know so that will be an episode I tune into

Yeah, that will be good.

And do you listen like when you hear that we've talked about you?

A hundred percent because like people will text me like I heard about you on the toast today.

You're this, you're that or haha about Japiro.

And I'm like, uh-huh, what?

So then I have to go tune in to like.

Does that scare you or it's fun?

No, I know that you guys unless you're like fucking making shit up about me would you do something else too you know yeah no there's a few stories in our arsenal that we disagree on the our the history of yeah no i think it's actually more fun for people who i get a lot of text like i'm a toaster now or my so-and-so was talking about the toast and they can't believe i know you and then it's like oh well here i am today you know i'm on the toast too so that will be fun i think yeah

so you don't want me to tell the story about the backsheet boys I mean you could tell it but it's factually inaccurate so like it's fine and by the way like people who have been listening to the show for years they know the fucking story because we've talked about it no I don't think we've ever told the story because it's definitely on Patreon no it's oh definitely on Patreon you're right because it's that much of a hot button issue between us yeah because you guys are in a cabal against me like to make like try to rewrite history and pretend that I have these memories that I don't have but like it's not that.

It's not that.

No.

Everyone says I have such a good memory.

And this is one of my youngest memories, my earliest memories and most cherished.

Sure.

Sure, Jam.

But we won't get into it.

It's just like a little squabble about like Olivia's love for the Baxter Boys.

Because I wasn't.

I wasn't the number one in sync girl.

Admittedly, I wanted like my bombing theme to be JC Shose, okay?

We know.

We know.

Is that how you said his name?

I don't know.

But before you got into InSync, like before you discovered them and like fell head over heels, there was a brief period where where you did like the Backstreet Boys just because it was like the thing to like.

And your Backstreet Boy of choice was Brian.

And by the way,

confirm, obviously, but in today's day and age, like good for me because the rest of them, I don't know.

Yeah, yeah, I do agree.

I obviously have good taste in men, I guess,

to be scandal-free.

Scandal-free.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

JC Chose, also scandal-free, from what I can, from what I know.

Haven't really really,

yeah.

Sure, just Brian.

Stop.

I get with you.

I get with you.

Okay, well, I'm so glad that you're here to join us for the Fast Five today.

We have some great stories, and I want to get Liv's take on pop culture because you dabble, and I feel like there are subjects that you really care about.

You don't care about some of the things that like Claude and I do, but the things that you're passionate about, like you are a forensic investigator, and 100

more than anyone about your passion subjects a hundred percent no other way to be no other way to be what would you say are your passion subjects for those who don't know influencer drama influencer drama for sure but like not the kind of influencer drama that most people care about yeah not like not like these teeny boppers no mine is like i don't know food blogger sort of stuff you know like i'm just in a totally different space um no my mo is that i like to know a little bit about everything.

Like I just like to be a well-rounded person.

You know, I just, I don't really like read like, you know, I don't like read news and entertainment news and I'm not like live and die by certain things, but

you know, I just like to be able to be conversational about any sort of mainstream topic that's going to come up.

So I don't really watch reality TV.

I used to a lot, but I don't anymore.

But again, like know all the players, know the situation, just not spending hours of my week watching it.

Cause like, one, I don't have the time, and two, I feel like you can find out a good amount of information about what's going on just by being alive in the world.

Yeah, and you and Shapiro are like your weird shows.

I love, I just like shows that have, you know, a plot.

You like some action.

I like drama, murder.

Like action and, like, a government body.

Yeah, no, like cop dramas.

Like, it's totally my vibe.

Government conspiracy.

Yeah, you name it.

That's my vibe.

The blacklist.

The blacklist.

Love it.

Night Agent, I just finished.

It was incredible.

But here's the thing.

I'm watching Firefly Lane, and it's unbelievable.

Oh, you like it?

Oh, I love it.

I just think it's like, it's so drama-filled, you know?

I like the drama.

I read the book.

I heard it's nothing like the book.

You know, I didn't read the book, but.

I know.

The book made me angry.

And then I was like, I'm not watching the show.

Oh, interesting.

Oh, I feel like if maybe I read the book, I might have the same experience.

But yeah, no, that's what I'll be up to tonight.

I will be watching Firefly Lane.

And I watch the one reality show that I watch is Love is Blind.

Shapiro and I cannot get enough of it.

I don't know what to do.

Oh, what were your thoughts?

Okay, great.

That's a great pop culture touch point.

What were your thoughts on the reunion that everyone's talking about?

The reunion was horrendous.

It was just.

Do you think that Vanessa and Nick should be replaced, like the petition says?

I don't.

I mean, I saw somewhere that they're like executive producers on the show, so I don't necessarily know that they're going to be replaced.

But like, I just don't like when you are the host of something where you like have such an obvious agenda, and on some of the points, you're like really wrong.

Like, I think that's where Andy Cohen does a really good job because he comes into those reunions and he doesn't necessarily have an agenda.

Obviously, there's things that he wants to get answered on behalf of the audience, but like, that's not really what Vanessa was doing.

She just kept like the way that the whole thing was organized, the conversations that were had, the questions that were asked, the things that she harped on, also the way that they edited it.

Like, some things were so incomplete and inconsistent.

No, I thought it was like not live and it was recorded after because Netflix couldn't figure out the live.

No, so it was live streamed, even though they were fucking up.

And you like what we watched, what Claudia and I watched was the live cut.

And then when they put it on Netflix, they did edit it a little bit.

I don't know what they're saying.

That's what I watched because I watched it like a week late.

Got it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, but even like the girl Jackie, she had like a pre-recorded like web, you know, like Zoom WebEx thing.

And she was like one of the worst offenders on the show.

And the questions were like hunky dory for her.

I don't know.

It was just not the vibe.

Yeah.

But I'm here for Brett and Tiffany.

They seem like a great couple.

Bliss and Zach, I don't know, just, I don't know.

It was just all sorts of weird this season.

I think it's also because people do go on the show knowing that like you are going to get some level of fame.

And then, also, it's like reality TV.

You don't know what kind of edit you're going to get.

So, it's just all those things mixed together with this very bizarre experiment, which now things are coming out about it, where they like don't feed them and don't let them sleep, and the conditions are really good.

They're always eating and they're always drinking.

One person from the season before, that guy Nick, who did get married and then got a divorce, is like doing this whole thing on how, like, the treatment of

the folks on the show is no bueno.

I'll check it out, but that's literally.

See, this is where I go down deep web on things that no one cares about.

But here I am.

No, that's useful information.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

You're welcome.

Okay, without further ado, Liv and I are going to get into the fast five stories that you need to know.

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Okay, our first story is some sad news to kick off the stories, I'm sorry to say, because at the end of last week, it was announced that Jerry Springer passed away.

The legendary TV host was 79 years old, and he was one of the most influential talk show hosts in TV history.

He died peacefully in his home in suburban Chicago on Thursday, his family confirmed, according to a report from his longtime employer.

They said, quote, Jerry's ability to connect with people was at the heart of his success in everything he tried, whether that was politics, broadcasting, or just joking with people on the street who wanted a photo or a word.

He is irreplaceable and his loss hurts immensely, but memories of his intellect, heart, and humor will live on.

He was reportedly diagnosed with cancer a few months ago, which unfortunately took a bad turn this past week, according to TMZ.

It's so sad.

I saw that notification come in and just like, Jerry Springer, like Maury as well, were just such staples of our childhood.

Like, if you were a kid and you were sick and home from school, you watched Jerry Springer.

Like, your parents had no idea what you were doing up in your room while you were supposed to be resting, but you were watching Jerry Springer.

And I just feel like it's so iconic for kids that are now no longer kids, but like our generation.

But it kind of goes back to the conversation we were having earlier.

Like, he's 79 years old.

It's terrible that,

you know, he passed.

It's terrible that he had cancer.

And I just, I hope he lived a good life, you know?

Yeah, I think that he did.

He was a major pioneer in television.

He was there for all of us.

Yeah.

When we were sick, we were upstairs being like, Jerry, Jerry.

Yeah, but then you think about it, like the way that he was so a part of our lives, it was like more than 20 years ago.

20-ish years ago, you know, so it's like time is really flying.

But he's still doing his show.

Claudius saw his show like five, six years ago.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I remember remember that.

Insane.

Oh, that's so sad.

I also, in his passing, have learned that he was the mayor of Cincinnati for a point.

Was he?

Oh, my God.

That's crazy.

Yeah.

Crazy.

That's why it said politics in that little blurb.

Oh, wow.

The multi-talented man.

Yeah.

It's just like...

There's some people when they pass, like the world is never the same.

And to be honest with you, today's kids, it's just not the same.

No, they won't know.

They won't know.

They won't know what it's like.

But in the same room where I have the memory of like watching Jerry Springer is the same room where I have the memory of like that Brian story.

Which is my childhood room.

Which is your childhood room.

That's where we used to watch Jerry.

Yeah, that is where we used to watch Jerry.

The side posters of Brian.

It was kind of cool we had a TV in our room as kids.

Yeah, we did.

But like the quality was always like so bad that you couldn't be addicted to it.

You know what I mean?

No, yeah.

And it was like really hard to get up to change a channel.

So it wasn't like you were just like laying around all day watching.

No, for sure.

No, the one thing that I feel like I know that we watched like weekly was um

Seventh Heaven, oh, yeah, seventh heaven, seventh heaven, and then the OC, like when that first started, and that was like Laguna Beach, the hills, um,

you know, yeah, but that was like when we were older and like more when we like moved to the city era.

It was like right at the cusp.

Yeah, that was right at the cusp.

But like growing up, we used to watch the WB every Friday night, like catch us there, all the four of us, like watching together.

Yeah, no, 100%.

The WB was lit.

It was.

I remember actually when they rebranded to the CW.

That was like my first experience with a rebrand, and I was confused.

So do you find it to be a successful rebrand?

Did it like spur your love of branding or no?

I don't know, actually.

I remember in the moment feeling really angry about it.

Like, what the heck is this?

Yeah.

It's angering.

Yeah, no, that was, that was very angering.

But now it's still the CW, so power to them.

And you know what we used to watch a lot?

Reba.

We watched Reba, and what was that other show with Joanna Garcia?

Reba.

Not Reba, the one that she started.

Privileged?

Privileged, yeah.

But that was later in life.

No, but still in the same room.

No.

No, not in the same room.

Privileged was like.

Privilege was on the CW.

Are you sure?

Okay, fine.

I'm pretty sure because I re-watched it recently on CW Seed.

Even though I do think they have all

iconic.

I know.

What else did we watch as kids?

I feel like we watched Friends, unfortunately, because we didn't know what to do.

BBC Family, we watched before it was free form.

Do you remember that?

We watched that show, Maybe It's Me.

Uh-huh, uh-huh.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

When I go to sleep tonight, I'll be thinking about all the things that I wish that I would have said.

Like, I remember we used to watch this, and I remember when we used to watch that.

We watched like Nick at Night.

Yeah, we watched Nick at Night.

We watched the nanny.

We watched all of those things.

Yeah.

We watched whatever was the WB was serving up.

Totally, totally.

Yeah, no, it was those first 11 channels, like ABC, CBS, NBC.

We didn't really like watch a lot of things like MTV.

We were watching NBC.

I could tell you that.

No, because that's where like American Idol, that was on what at the time.

Oh, true.

Yeah, we watched those things.

I remember when Kelly Clarkson and Justin Guarini faced off.

We were in said same room.

Do you remember?

I have that core memory.

I remember when

I think it was like Taylor Hicks' season.

Oh, he didn't have to.

No memory of that.

No memory of that.

But Kelly Clarkson, very, I have a very definitive memory of winning.

We were all together watching and the way that we were screaming and jumping for joy.

We were Team Kelly?

By a million miles, 100%.

Always have been.

It's in our roots.

Always have.

Literally, nothing's changed.

Nothing.

Nothing.

Okay, well, our next story is actually some reality TV news that I'd love to get your thoughts about because this weekend was the White House Correspondence Dinner, and fans are confused over Lala, Ken, Ariana Maddox, and Lisa Vanderpump's appearance at the dinner.

So, Bravo fans were stunned to see Lala, Ariana, and Lisa at the 2023 White House Correspondence Dinner Saturday night.

The trio of reality stars looked ethereal on the red carpet at the D.C.

Hilton Hotel following the highly publicized Scandoval, which we know, I'm sure you're familiar with the Scandal of All.

I sure am familiar.

So

these three from the show went to the White House Correspondence Center with the LA Times.

Question mark.

They did.

I thought that they went with, I saw them in a picture with Linda Yaccarino, who's the chairwoman of NBC Universal, and my friend Shelly Zalis.

And I thought for sure that Linda brought

Bravo

or from the night before.

Because the night before, there was like a big party in town that they also went to.

I think it was like CAA or one of the talent agencies had a party in D.C.

Oh, I don't know.

I don't know.

I got to go back and look.

LA Times, so random.

So random.

And okay, so maybe the LA Times is like thirsting a little bit, like, because they, the, the publications like at tables for this big event and like, you can give away tickets, so you give it to, like, you could give it to someone influential, or someone you want to sit with, or someone that's going to like create buzz for your

publication.

So they chose like three Vanner Pump people, but I think that the choice of the three is also interesting.

I was talking about it with Claudia.

Like, of course, Ariana is the belle of the ball these days, and like, she is the first invite, but I was surprised that Lala was there.

Like, I feel like maybe Katie could have gone.

And then, like, Lisa's kind of random too.

But I mean, I'm here for it.

it I hope they had an amazing time they looked gorgeous truly beautiful all three of them they looked like really they really looked um

dressed perfectly like for the affair you know yeah but I'm just so confused as to why who what where when why how they were there I'm confused too I wonder like I don't know the nuances of the friendships on vanderpump rules like are Lala and Ariana cool they're cool everybody's cool cool now.

All the girls are cool because they've all been cool.

So maybe she asked to bring her.

I feel like your point about Ariana being the bell of the ball makes a lot of sense.

Like maybe Ariana got two tickets and she gave them to Lisa and Lala.

I don't know.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I need to know more.

Like, and you know what?

They all have podcasts.

So honestly, Lisa Vanderpump hasn't like really been around that much in a while.

Like I don't see her like go to events and do things really.

Well, she kind of just does her own stuff.

Like she does Vanderpump rules and then she opens opens up her restaurants, and like, she kind of just like feeds her own ecosystem, which is like a nice level to be at.

A hundred percent.

Yeah, no, that's why I'm more so surprised to see her because I'm like, I feel like I haven't seen you in a while, you know?

Yeah,

at least for me, like, she's like, just like not on my radar, even though, like, the show is Vanderpump Rules, obviously.

I just, and I know she's in the show, but like, I don't know.

I just feel like the rest of them, housewives, you always just see in different instances.

Yeah, but she's not a housewife anymore.

Did you know that?

No, I know.

Yes, I heard that.

She's not a housewife anymore.

I actually muted myself to choke because I don't know.

I'm not professionals at this because, like, I don't know, the mouth is dry.

You're welcome to take a sip of water.

Okay,

I'm going to take you up on that.

You take your water, and I'm going to let you know what our next story is because it is some programming news.

Jada Pinkett Smith's Red Table Talk has been among the shows canceled as Facebook Watch is shut down by Meta.

So, Red Table Talk is closing its doors for now.

The popular talk show, co-hosted by Jada Pinkett-Smith, her mother, and her daughter, has been canceled as its network, Facebook Watch, is shut down by Meta, People confirms.

Deadline was the first to report the news that Facebook Watch's original programming endeavors were ending, with none of its shows returning

for more seasons.

It added that Red Table Talk was being shopped around to other interested networks.

Variety reported that it's a cost-cutting cutting measure.

So, this story is pretty twofold.

Like, one, Facebook Watch is gone.

Like, we don't have to accidentally click that tab on our phones anymore.

That's like really joyous.

And two, that means Red Table Talk no longer has a home there, but I do feel like it could get picked up by someone else.

But for now, it's kaput.

I think so too.

And I think, you know, honestly, I didn't even realize that Red Table Talk was a part of Facebook Watch, Meta Watch, whatever.

Like, I think honestly, the...

The point of this story is like a millionfold.

Number one, Facebook has to like stop trying to be all things to all people.

You know, like they want to be like a studio, like a Netflix creating original programming and they're going to bring us to the metaverse.

And here they have Instagram and WhatsApp and a VR set with Oculus and it's just like, chill, you know?

So to some extent, I don't, I don't want to say that I'm like, I'm glad that Facebook watch didn't work out, but it's like, I understand.

Like they're just, you can't be all things to all people.

It's too fucking much, number one.

Yeah.

Maybe next they can take IGTV with them.

Yeah, I think that's gone.

I don't even know.

No idea.

That's embarrassing for Instagram, to be honest with you.

But

the second point is, yeah, I would say that if anything, like Red Table Talk is probably the only program on Facebook Watch that anybody was specifically tuning into Facebook Watch to watch, other than their random ass other programming that they were shoving down our throats.

I don't know.

Like in this article, I never heard of these shows, but they sound like real shows.

Peace of Mind with Taraji P.

Henson, The Biebers on watch and Elizabeth Olson's drama series sorry for your loss and rhyme town with jessica beal no i've never heard of them but like they sound like real shows they sound like real shows but then like also how have we never heard of them you know yeah there was one facebook watch thing it was like tom vs time about tom brady that one i watched but that was legitimately like five or six years ago like they've just been at this too long and haven't cracked the code so like Zionara yeah and it's just you know the Facebook users' behavior.

It's just not where we want to watch our TV.

Like, I've said so many times before, I don't need one app to do everything for me.

Like, I like having my phone where I do this, and my TV where I do that, and my computer where I do this, and these different apps.

Like, I don't need it all in-house.

Yeah, no, I totally agree with that.

And I think don't tell Mark Zuckerberg.

No, Red Table Talk is interesting because they have interesting guests, right?

Like, yeah, it's all guest-dependent.

Like, I think they really have episodes that have 100 listens.

Yeah, of course.

So,

I don't know.

Like maybe they should shop it around.

TNN could take the audio format.

LOL.

No, I think they'll get picked up and I think they should get picked up.

Like it's a good concept.

They have amazing guest outreach and have good conversations with people.

It gets tons of buzz.

It gets more buzz than cable news shows or cable talk shows.

So someone should snag it.

Yeah.

But you know what it makes me think about?

Like all those Quibbi shows that like had buzz too and never got picked up anywhere.

But like they didn't really have buzz and they also like weren't whole shows no i know no they were like five minutes the ip on any of them didn't appear anywhere else it's been like a year and a half since quibby went under yeah it's been like three years but um really like yeah it was 2020.

wow again time i have absolutely no concept of but yeah i think about quibby often actually do you

Yes, sometimes, but all I would say about Red Table Talk and White's different is because it's like an established established show and it's long form.

Like, they wouldn't have to change anything.

Yeah, they wouldn't have to like even like get new audience members.

It's just like copy and paste.

Whereas with Quibi, it was like they were ideas.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, I definitely agree with that, but they just had invested so much that it's like

you would think.

Yes, but I agree with you.

I think that you will be reporting on Red Table Talk landing somewhere in the next few weeks or months, for sure, as it should.

And I think, honestly, the fact that they were at Facebook Watch, I'm glad Facebook Watch shut down so that red table talk could go somewhere else.

There, I see.

Yeah, yeah.

And I'm glad, like, like Facebook Watch is winding down.

For sure.

For sure.

There's just like that was unnecessary.

And also, like, it's been too long, you know?

Like, sometimes I appreciate when companies try things.

And then, like, after a year or two, if it doesn't work, like, great.

Like.

Fold in the, what is it?

Like, put in the towel?

Fold in the towel.

Throw in the towel.

Throw in the towel.

Yeah.

Throw in the the towel, Facebook.

What do you think this means for the industry since you are like a media queen?

Well, I think that there's so much going on in the media space right now with all of these, you know, big networks and cable channels like launching their own streaming services.

And I think at some point there has to be some sort of consolidation.

You know, like you have Amazon Prime, you have Netflix, you have Hulu, HBO Max, and then you have NBC with Peacock and Paramount Plus.

Like there's just so much.

And, you know, people don't want to spend, you know, hundreds of dollars across 15 different services to access content.

So, like, I think you will continue to see a media consolidation.

Like, I think, you know, what Hulu, Disney, ESPN are trying to do right now, where they're kind of like all together.

And then there's going to be opportunities for cross-sharing in terms of content.

Like, I think we'll be seeing a little bit more of that.

But ultimately, at the end of the day, whoever produces good content that gets people to watch is going to be the winner.

And I think right now, with the way that Netflix does it and how they can drive so much like FOMO around shows that they create and then they have it be trending and everybody's talking about it and you have to watch it, it's like you're going to have to have Netflix to be able to access that.

So I think the media space is really interesting right now.

I think it's a great time for content because people are just like all consumed.

But the one thing I will say that I'm really actually not liking is how like they created a monster in us to

binging yeah and now they're like episode by episode and i'm to be honest with you i'm just absolutely not here for it like i think it's so wrong you can't like dramatically change a consumer behavior and then just be like whoop nope like not okay No, and Claudia and I also say it's like, okay, one, they went from binging to being like episodic.

Two, like a lot of these new platforms have fucking commercials.

And three, they're all consolidating like into one sort of platform.

It's cable.

yeah it's turning into cable a hundred percent and you're paying 150 bucks like you would when you know if you live in new york and you have spectrum and you have a thousand channels on video

is the key is not to have cable because zach and i don't have cable as you guys know we're cord cutters and we have every between youtube tv and then we pay for whatever streamers we want yeah our bill is So much less than cable.

Yeah.

The only reason why I have some basic cable is because Shapiro needs it for sports, which you guys get on YouTube.

Right.

Yeah.

100%.

No, and like I need cable access.

Like I like to watch like things,

like Bravo, yeah, things live, you know, Grammys or whatever.

But YouTube TV has all of that.

Love that for you.

Love it.

You should, you know, you're the face of YouTube TV, at least in my mind.

I've had a pleasant experience.

You've had it for so long, actually.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Since, like, since we got engaged, so 2018.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's been pleasant, I would recommend to a friend.

And that's a good example of like YouTube

went into the TV space and it's positive and they continue to do it.

If after two years it was a sham, like they should have shut it down, but they didn't.

But it's also, it's weird that it's YouTube owned.

Like it has nothing to do with YouTube.

No, I know, but it's more so just like the facilitation of video distribution, which YouTube is the biggest of in the world.

Yeah.

But no, it's it's like weird.

And also, like, you can't like watch YouTube videos in the YouTube TV app.

You have to get the separate YouTube app.

Yeah,

which never really like made a ton of sense.

Yeah, no, I agree with that.

It's like confusing.

They look the same.

But okay, go off, YouTube.

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Okay, our next story is actually some really crazy news.

I know that you watch cheer season one, so you're familiar with all these players, but cheer star Monica Aldama, the coach, has been sued for allegedly covering up sexual assault.

Monica Aldama, who starred in popular Netflix docuseries Cheer, allegedly told a former student to keep quiet about being sexually assaulted.

According to court documents obtained by Page 6, cheerleader Maddie Lane claims that she was sexually

assaulted by a teammate during her first semester at Navarro.

She claims that the alleged assault occurred in 2021 after her then-roommate invited a group of guys over to their dorm after a night of partying.

She said that she told Coach Monica what allegedly happened and claims the coach told her, quote, let's not make this a big deal.

I want the best for you and I will help you cheer wherever you want.

When she quit the team a week later, Monica reportedly told her to keep quiet if she wanted to continue her collegiate career in cheerleading.

She also claims that some of the veteran, one of the veteran cheerleaders told her the same thing, saying, quote, we don't tell anyone, we just keep it to ourselves.

She now is on a cheer team at the University of Texas and claimed that her dream of cheering on a nationally ranked team was squashed after Navarro coaches and former teammates blackballed her from other programs for coming forward about the alleged assault.

Wow.

Well,

one, I just think that's terrible, but also the one thing about cheer that was so crazy is that there was this guy.

Did you watch cheer, by the way?

Yeah.

Yeah, okay.

So in the first season, like Jerry was like Jerry.

Yeah.

and then Jerry.

So there is something no bueno in the water over there in Navarro, and like it's not okay.

Well, I think it was cheer the most recent season.

I don't know if it was two or three, and it was like, I think it must have been two.

It was like kind of post-COVID, but still it was a little masky.

And they were talking about like the Jerry stuff and how there's kind of like a cheer curse, it feels like, like, ever since the first season, like, just it's not been positive for a lot of people.

Like, I think Monica really struggled with a lot of stuff.

She went on dancing with the stars, and she was just like stressed the hell out.

And

I don't know, it was like just becoming like a steam cheer curse.

And that's what this story just like echoes to me.

It's just like maybe the spotlight of the show just brought to light all of these things that were always there, but you know, we wouldn't have that sort of attention if not for the show.

And I guess that's a curse, but it's really crazy.

And this is really disappointing, if true, because Monica was like America's coach, you know, like

she's a like everyone fell in love with Monica and her coaching abilities, but also like her ability to just really be there for the cheer cheerers and be like a motherly figure.

And this is just, this would be completely out of line with what we thought we knew her character to be.

Totally.

Yeah, no, I couldn't agree more.

And I think, yeah, it's interesting.

I hadn't heard about the cheer curse, but I do think like that's such a big thing with reality TV, right?

It's like you just don't know what is going to unravel.

And I think,

honestly, good for this girl for regardless of the fact that it's horrendous that she got blackballed from other programs.

Like I would say she's probably such a beacon of hope for so many people that are reading the story.

And it's like coming forward, even if you put everything that you care about at risk to like help other people.

Honestly, good for her, Maddie.

We'll keep you posted on this story.

Yeah, keep me posted on the story.

Actually, I had an

extra-very surprising.

But yeah, there's, that's what I was saying earlier.

It's like everything that you hear now about cheer, which I think is your point in the cheer curse, is like

so vile.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's not good either.

It's supposed to be funny games, you know, flips and tricks and fun stuff, not.

Do a flip.

Yeah.

I think there's another season happening.

Oh, interesting.

So maybe this will be a part of it.

I actually probably don't think so.

No, they'll definitely sweep it under the rug.

That seems to be their specialty.

Yeah,

I don't know.

But it's just, it's not good over at Navarro.

No, it's not.

Navarro is a college.

Sometimes, like, when I was watching Cheer, I like got high school vibes.

The kids are so, if they feel like they're so young.

Well, that's just, I think, our age.

College.

I know, I know.

It's me.

It's me.

I know.

You're showing your age.

I am.

I'm old.

Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

We're already at five?

Yeah.

That's insane.

I thought we were at four.

I don't even like, again, just jacky, the time is flying.

Time flies when you're having fun with your sis.

I am.

I'm having so much fun.

It's actually the fifth and final story is some cute news for the kids and also some major box office news because Super Mario Brothers, the movie, officially smashed $1 billion globally.

Wow.

The Super Mario Brothers movie is officially the first film of the year to cross the coveted $1 billion milestone at the global box office.

As of Sunday, after 26 days of release, the animated video game adaptation from Universal, Illumination, and Nintendo has grossed

$490 million in North America and $532 million internationally.

It's only the fifth movie of pandemic times to join the billion-dollar club, including Spider-Man, Top Gun, Jurassic, World Dominion, and Avatar.

Wow.

Well, one, good for Super Mario.

Two,

the pandemic times, like, the post-pandemic movie times are so weird.

Like, I have not been to a movie theater in legitimately four years.

And, like, I don't know when I'm going to go back.

Like, it's like, it used to be so on my radar in terms of like things that I would do.

I think, one, just obviously having kids now that are not like age appropriate to go to the theater just yet is probably one big reason for it.

But, two, like, damn, the way that like the theater suffered during the pandemic, like the way that movies come out now, like that whole industry is like so flipped on its head.

It's like, it's wild.

Yeah, I think it changed a lot of things.

Also, we now see like movies go to theaters and then they are, they're available on demand really quickly, which is pretty nice for the consumers.

And I think a lot of people say, you know, like the movie theater industry is just not what it was.

But then like a movie like this comes out and it breaks these records in 26 days.

And it's like, oh, well, maybe the other movies are just like kind of shitty and nobody wants to see them because when people want to go see a movie they clearly go and see it by the way I agree with that and I think the other thing too is to your point earlier about being a cord cutter I feel like most of the studios only really like advertise their movies and their trailers on like cable TV because like I don't see any movie trailers anymore now that I like don't watch you know cable TV so like I don't even ever know like what's coming out like I heard about

this movie I heard about

I see them, like, on social media, like on Instagram, you know, like the Barbie trailer.

I didn't see that.

Yeah.

Barbie, but okay, like, but that's what I'm saying.

Like, Barbie, Air, Super Mario.

Like, I saw those ones, but like, I cannot tell you other than those three movies, what else has been in theaters in the last two months?

Like, they're not going to be the one that's.

Mainly movies of like the Oscar contenders.

I had literally not heard of one Oscar movie.

I guess I just heard of them.

Well, I mean, I also like do this job.

Yeah.

No, it's your job.

But I'm just saying, like, me, a plebe, a regular consumer, like, I don't watch like cable TV and I do not see trailers, and I do not know what movies are in theaters.

And then I only know because then, like, when I turn my TV on, it's like the new releases come up.

If, like, I'm on Apple or like whatever, and then I can see Ticket to Paradise with Julia Roberts and George Clooney, you know?

Yeah, did you watch that?

I did.

What, how was it?

Um, it wasn't that good.

Um, it was really bad,

Kind of.

Like, would you recommend it?

Like, Zach and I watched last night Murder Mystery 2.

Oh, my God.

No, Bueno.

Oh, I didn't hate it.

Like, it was just the perfect dumb thing to watch.

It's a perfect dumb thing.

Yeah.

It's dumb.

I totally agree.

I would probably have recommended that more than I would have

recommended Ticket to Paradise.

The other one I watched was the Shotgun Wedding J-Lo.

The one that I think think Army Hammer was supposed to be doing it, but then it was Josh Dumell.

That was one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

Ooh.

Did you see her movie Marry Me?

I did.

Which one was worse?

It was Marry Me the one with Owen Wilson?

Yes.

Okay.

It was so bad.

It was bad, but I watched that one on a plane.

And I feel like when you watch movies on the plane, like you get this heightened emotional, like, I don't know, like that one I.

Did you cry?

No, I didn't cry, but I just like, it was feel good like I was into it, you know this one Jackie was like the the and like side effects like the action was so completely unrealistic like it was horrendous like it was actually the worst movie I've ever seen in my life ticket to paradise I feel like because they're both like weddings on an island vibe I'm getting them confused in my mind almost but uh it

It just like I can't say anything positive about that one, but the shotgun wedding one literally is should go down in history as the worst movie I've ever seen.

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Claudia and I had this conversation like a few months ago, and it was a pretty controversial point that I raised, but like George Clooney is like kind of like not a serious actor.

No, no,

I feel like he used to be and he's not anymore.

Yeah, Yeah, like now it, but I feel like he doesn't act as much, but then like he does and he does the best.

He does like cheesy rom-coms.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like he does like really corny stuff.

Like he's kind of super corny.

Yeah, but then he did that other movie with like Anna Kendrick like up in the air and all the oceans movies.

Like he used to do legitimate films and now I agree with your point.

Like it's no, no way no.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

For sure.

So do you think that you'll be taking Kayla to see Super Mario Brothers?

No, but I'm excited for it to come out on demand and for me to watch it.

I just don't think she can sit in the theater for like that many times.

Oh, yeah.

No, sorry.

Not take, then you don't have to take her to see.

But like, do you think that you would have her watch that since apparently the kids are loving it?

I would be happy to turn it on, but the thing about Kayla is like when she sets her sights on something, like she doesn't come out of that hole for a while.

So like we're so knee-deep in high school musical right now, thanks to Claudia that like.

But you know what, Claudia, like, Claudia foisted that on her.

Like if you want her to be obsessed with something, like I feel like you could kind of no it has to there's certain things that would make her be criteria right criteria music is the number one so like if it's a Super Mario Brothers has that song

I know but is it a musical Jackie

look at the listen to the playlist in the car like that is criteria numeron

okay okay

yeah but like I love Super Mario like we used to play that as kids and this is becoming such a nostalgic episode it is I know

I know live and let live is the leading title, but it might be like

it might have to be something with nostalgia.

No, but you know exactly what I'm talking about.

Like, we used to have Super Mario on our computers, and we used to play.

Yeah.

Yeah, we were in video game girlies, but that was the one and only game that we lived in.

The one that we liked.

Yeah, and snood.

Snood.

Icy Tower.

Icy Tower, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay, so we played a few games, but not video games, computer games.

No, no, computer games.

Because we were like academics.

No, because.

In between, you know, writing papers, we would just do a little computer game.

No, we were like, or what was that website?

What was that website, Aqua something?

Oh, I don't know.

That had all the games.

Oh, I don't know.

What was the website that had all the games?

I don't know, Jackie.

I don't know.

You better.

You and your memory.

Come on.

It'll come to me.

Okay, cool.

We used to play a lot of games.

Yeah.

Because we were like the generation right where like computers

in terms of like everyday life, like obviously like that AOL AIM generation, you know?

And like using your computer for like homework and schoolwork was like the norm right at the cusp of like when we were going to high school and stuff.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All very cool.

Well, Olivia, thank you for helping us deliver the fast five.

It has been a pleasure to catch up with you.

I know the toasters are going to be so happy to hear from you and to hear your take on all look at you, a little turdy loo over there.

Oh my God.

Is that the turdy loo way?

She just breaks out in song.

So you've listened to zero episodes.

No, no, I know, but I feel like, yeah, I guess.

Do you know what I mean?

Like, if you say a word, does she, like, sing from said word?

There are a few tropes that we have.

Like, when I say thank you, like, she'll read the ads and I say thank you.

And she goes, it's a pleasure.

Oh, oh, I didn't realize.

Okay, cool.

Yeah.

So you're just really filling in on all fronts for Turkey today.

Big shoes to fill over here.

Big, the biggest.

Big shoes.

Do you think she'll listen to our episodes?

No.

I know.

We should actually listen.

So say whatever you want.

No, I was just going to say, like, let's leave this.

Leave an Easter egg.

Yeah, and see if she's like, oh, yeah, you know, I did listen.

There's a chance she would listen because she's going on a plane.

Truth.

Truth, truth.

But I don't see it for her.

I really don't.

I think she's enjoying her day off as she should because she's been holding it down the last few weeks.

And we are immensely grateful to Turdy Lou.

But I will be back with her tomorrow on the show.

And tonight,

Monday night, is the Met Gala.

And so tomorrow's episode is going to be so fun.

I'm really excited to see what everyone brings.

I hope everyone brings their A-game.

I'm already seeing so many teaser stuff because the theme is Carl.

Carl.

Lagerfeld, which is like a really good theme.

Like Rihanna stepped out in the Chanel glasses and it's giving, you know.

And like I heard no Kardashians.

No, they're going.

Kim Kim posted she's going.

People just love to like lie on their name.

Yeah, what is up with that?

Weirdness.

Yes, they're definitely like all going.

I mean, I don't know about Courtney and Chloe TBD just because I don't know if they enjoyed it last time.

Like, I don't know that they would want to go again enough.

Right.

Like, I know Chloe, I just watched the episode from last season.

Chloe had like immense, horrible anxiety.

Like, she doesn't like red carpets.

Like, I don't think it was fun for her.

That makes sense.

So, we'll see.

And if they do go to all of them, I really hope one designer takes them all and dresses them cohesively.

That's my, that's my Met Gala wish.

I wish that's for you.

Ooh, um,

I don't know.

I don't really have a Met Gala wish.

I just hope that, like, that's normal.

That's normal.

No, um,

I just hope we have, like, some, you know, some good looks, some interesting peeps, and I will be, like, following along adjacently, you know?

Yeah.

Like, I'm not going to be sitting in front of the stream.

Like, that's just not my vibe.

No, I never watch the stream, but Claudia likes to watch it.

Yeah.

No, I definitely want to see.

I want to be wowed.

You know, like, I want to see some cool people wear some beautiful things.

And I, I think the theme, sometimes the theme is like too outrageous for me to fully understand like what people are doing.

And like, you can't really mess this theme up.

Yeah.

I think it's going to be fun.

It would be disrespectful to mess this theme up.

Oh, yeah.

You know, Carl would be vomiting if you fuck it up.

Vomiting.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

For sure.

For sure.

For sure.

So, no, I think it's going to be fun.

And that's always a fun pop culture touch point.

It really is.

Have you ever seen the documentary, the first Monday in May?

I think I did.

I think I watched it on a plane.

Yeah.

It was good.

Very interesting.

But no, what was the other documentary that they did about the September issue?

Was it called the September issue?

Yeah.

But there's also another documentary that's like seven days or something like that, where it's like seven days before like the biggest events in the world.

I think the Met Gala is one of them.

Kentucky Derby.

I didn't watch that.

Cool.

I watched that.

Yeah, I think so.

I think I watched some of them.

I definitely watched the Kentucky Derby one.

I thought it was really interesting.

That's cool.

Yeah.

I'm into like sports documentaries, too.

I find them fascinating.

Such a cool chill girl.

I mean, the Mantaiteo one was the best in history, so come on.

Yeah.

Totally.

Well, Liv, where can everyone keep up with you and your

life?

My life.

At Olivia Ashre.

I feel like my growth has been stagnant.

So if you're feeling like throwing a follow,

yeah, yeah.

Yeah, let's try for a bump.

You know, might as well.

But yeah, you can keep up with me there where I just like post my suburban life and my recipes.

I did a little bit of a Costco haul this weekend, you know, just the things that an average girly does because that's me, an average girly.

We love it.

Thank you so much for joining us.

We will see you next time.

And toasters, I shall see you tomorrow.

Goodbye.

Ciao.

You know how we end it?

We say, love ya.

Bye.

Obviously.

Love ya.

Bye.

Bye.