Mannon Ford with Shannon Ford: Friday, April 28th, 2023

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Good morning, millennials, and welcome back to The Toast.

This is a very live, no, not live, sorry, very special episode of The Toast because we are podcasting from the desert.

That's right, desert toast.

And I'm sitting down with our fifth and final episode of the week with somebody whom I adore, somebody whom I respect, somebody who I also just hate because she's so beautiful.

It's Shannon.

Hey, Shannon Ford.

How are you?

Hi, Claude.

How are you doing, Turds?

Turds is doing good.

Turds is so excited to be shitting.

Shitting.

Well, oh, well, we'll talk about that.

Turds was shitting.

I am excited to be sitting down with Shannon, but I like to call her Mannon because I spent the day traveling with Shannon yesterday.

And you learn so much about people when you travel with them.

And what I learned is, like, Shannon, you are low-key a man.

You are Manon.

You are a beast, like the way you hustle and you hoist bags.

You're just like strong.

Wow.

Okay.

I feel like that's very unsuspecting of me.

So I'm going to stick with that nickname.

I wasn't expecting it.

And I don't mean that in any sort of derogatory way about your looks because you know how I feel about you.

You're absolutely stunning.

But you are a man.

Okay.

I feel like I'm going to accept that willingly and graciously because I've been working out.

So by the way, you're jacked.

jacked.

Shannon was sending me pictures of her stagecoach outfits and I literally didn't know who that was.

Your arms, you're so toned.

It's because

you're now like madly in love with a personal trainer.

Yeah, it does come with its pros and cons.

The pros are that you get to work out and become strong and the cons are that you have to work out.

I know.

I don't think I could ever be like in a relationship with somebody who is like

a professional fitness expert.

He doesn't like force me or anything, but it is just one of those things where if he's going every day, I'd just like such a slop kebop if I don't go with him.

Of course.

You know?

So Shannon and I are in the desert.

We're headed to Stagecoach.

Actually, today is day one.

We woke up at the ass motherfucking crack of dawn

because we're on, obviously, LA time, but I thought I was going to sleep till noon, given the day I had yesterday.

Also, we went to bed at 9.30.

We went to bed at 9.30.

And

I was deeply unwell.

Let me just, without being too graphic, tell everyone what my day was like.

I do want you to be graphic.

I want you to know that when she was telling us a story, I go, can you include as many details?

Oh my God, I am Mannon.

You are.

Oh, I wanted all the details.

Okay.

Okay.

Go ahead.

And Jackie doesn't really like on the podcast when I talk about like poop and stuff.

So I'm feeling like

she's not here.

She's not here to tell us no, Shannon.

Listen up, Jackie.

So we flew into LA yesterday, and when we landed in LA, we drove to Palm Springs, about a two-hour drive.

And when I woke up on Thursday morning, you know, I had a little tickle in my throat.

I wasn't feeling 100%.

Now, in retrospect, it really wasn't that big of a deal.

But maybe some tea.

Maybe some tea and like just drink water, you know, maybe a vitamin C or whatever.

But in the moment, I was like, shit, I'm getting sick.

So I called in a Z-Pack.

When we landed in Palm Springs, I picked up the Z-Pack.

I took the first two doses right when we got in the car and I went on my merry way.

We did errands.

We went to the grocery store.

We picked up liquor.

We picked up our festival tickets.

And while we were picking up our festival tickets, we were driving to the like location where you pick up the tickets.

And, you know, something hit me.

I also need you to explain when you pick up the tickets.

So it's obviously 102 degrees.

It's a real number of the temperature that it is outside.

When you pick up the tickets, you do have to like walk a good ways.

Obviously, if you're feeling bright and dandy, it's not that big of a deal.

It's just like hot as fuck.

And then you're walking and like standing in the sun to like wait in line to get your tickets.

It's a really, it's a low-key, miserable experience.

So just know that and then couple it with this next.

With what I was dealing with.

So as we're pulling up, I'm like, I literally say to Shannon, we had a plastic bag.

I'm like, please pass me that plastic bag.

I feel like I'm going to vomit in the back of this car.

And I was like, oh, maybe I'm in the back of the car.

I should sit in the front next time.

Maybe I'm getting car sick.

And then it just proceeded to go so downhill from there.

And I really won't, I will spare you all the details.

But what I I learned was that you are not supposed to take a Z-Pack on an empty stomach.

I did not know that.

And I certainly didn't know I was not supposed to take two doses.

Because the first dose, you do have to take two pills.

Right.

So it's the heaviest dose.

It's like 500 milligrams.

Yeah.

It was, let me just say this, a long drive home.

We had a 20-minute drive from the festival pickup location back to our rental house.

And I will say that whole car ride was probably one of the lowest moments of my life.

Am I allowed to say that you were fighting for your life in the port-a-potty?

I was fighting for my life in the port-a-potty.

I was fighting for my life in the car.

I was fighting for my life when I finally got home.

Like it was it, a long afternoon.

At one point, I did try to offer like a molecule of comfort and I was like, it's okay, Claude, just breathe.

Like we're so close.

And she immediately goes, we're not.

We're seven minutes away.

I'm watching the maps.

No, no, no, no, no.

I was sitting in the fucking front seat.

I saw the GPS.

Like literally, we were eight minutes away.

I'll never forget.

Our time to arrive was 3.41 and it was three fucking 33.

The time would not move.

And it was one thing, like if I was going to throw up, I don't care.

I'll fucking throw up on on the side of the road.

It was the other end, you guys.

It wasn't Notovirus 2.0 because it wasn't even close to what I experienced when I had the Notavirus.

But it was

tough for everyone involved.

We all just.

It was also hard for me to like know that Shannon was seeing me like this.

Shut up.

Because I like, I think the world of you, Shannon.

And I want you to, like.

I want you to think I'm like fabulous.

And fabulous girls just don't crap their pants.

Remember, we were in the kitchen and you were like, I just really appreciate you being so sweet and comforting.

Margaret's like, what about me?

No, the thing is, everyone was so nice.

And like Shannon was so helpful.

As I was like literally on the verge of cropping my pants, she was on the phone with this IV company.

She was like, we'll get you an IV tonight when you're all, you know, depleted.

We'll replenish you.

And I was just so grateful because I was like so focused on myself.

And then afterwards, I was like, was I being okay in the call?

No, you're being so fine.

You're about to shit your pants.

It was humiliating.

Guys, it was really humiliating.

And so

all of that to say, we went to bed at literally 9:30.

It had been a long day.

It had been a long day.

And it was honestly, you know what?

We all wanted the IVs anyways.

We all benefited from you almost shooting your pants.

Don't feel bad.

And we had some lovely, lovely nurses.

One of them was an emergency medic.

And he was like, you took 500 milligrams of azithromycin.

He was literally shocked.

He was.

He was like, girl, are you okay?

Yeah.

He was like, you good?

And I was like, no, sir.

I'm not good.

I haven't been good for a while.

I'm so glad you're here.

So glad you're here.

So we're replenished.

Stomach is not 100%.

I'd be lying if I said it was, but I'm not going to let it get in the way because Stagecoach is.

The best weekend of the year.

We got Luke Bryan.

We got Chris Stapleton.

We've got Kane Brown.

We've got Old Dominion.

We've got so many good performances.

So many good ones.

I'm so excited.

We have such cute outfits.

We're going to make so many TikToks.

So the trip was, I was not going to lie.

Last night I was really thinking, I'm like, you know what?

If I pulled all my savings, I could get myself a jet and just get the fuck out of here.

I was like, I can't do this all weekend.

I knew you were so serious.

That's another reason selfishly that we were trying to make sure you're okay because I was like, Claude can't leave.

Turkey can't go.

I was going to leave.

I know you are.

Margot said you would.

I was going to leave because if you knew how low I was feeling, Shannon,

you would have threw me on the plane myself.

I'm the same as you.

I would rather need to throw up than shit.

Duh.

Even though I hate throwing up, but the thing with throwing up is like you can really do it anywhere in a garbage can.

Well, the thing about it is it just happens really quickly and then it's done.

The other one is just, it's more of a process, I feel like.

Yeah.

Anyways.

So Jackie, if you're listening to this, I truly apologize for going there, but I did what I had to do and I'm better.

That's all that matters.

Yeah.

So if you guys are not following me and Shannon on Instagram, like we're going to be posting and TikTok, of course.

What are you doing with your life?

What are you doing with your life?

We're going to be making such fire content.

We look like fucking rats right now because it's 8.30 in the morning and we've been up since 5.30.

Actually, let me take that back.

Speak for yourself.

I look like a rat.

I am wearing, okay, let me just, let me paint a picture for you guys.

Last night, I'm not doing well.

You know, I'm in the post-sickness era, you know, post-coital.

And I text Shannon because we're all going to bed.

I'm like, you want to come and watch TV with me in my room?

She's like, yeah.

So I come here.

I'm wearing, you know.

Some nice pajamas.

They're from Tommy John, a toast sponsor.

They're blue, long sleeve, and

joggers.

They're not like the sexiest things ever, but like I'm literally in a house with Shannon, Margo, Emily, and Kyle.

Like, who the fuck am I trying to impress?

Fair.

Shannon rolls in here and I'm like, oh my God, I think Shannon is trying to fuck.

She's wearing this like silk negligee

and a matching robe and it's very like low cut.

And I just, I'm honestly confused if I'm being completely honest.

Listen, I'm in a long distance relationship.

Sometimes a girl just gets lost.

100%.

I understand.

So I was just having this conversation with Claude outside as she was low-key roasting me for my pajama choices.

Because then we went outside and Emily's like wearing literally like sweatpants and a white t-shirt.

And she's like, what are you wearing, Shannon?

And I'm like, yeah, what are you wearing?

So I have always dressed like this.

Like even when I was in high school and college, my friends would be like, why the fuck are you wearing that?

And I just genuinely like wearing their little slips, like little silk slips from wherever, you know, like, yeah, probably Victoria's Secret.

and other places like that.

Right.

And then it's like a little sheer robe that I put over it because I didn't want to be a little whore and walk around the house in a, you know, silk little necklage.

So anyways, I put a robe over it.

And yes, it does look like I'm trying to impress someone with my sleep attire, but I'm really not.

I just genuinely enjoy sleeping in this.

And I know it's giving pick-me energy, but I was telling Claude that I think people that make fun of other people's outfits to go to sleep in, they're the Pick-Me girls.

Shannon was trying to like deflect the Pick-me energy from her to me.

Shannon gaslight you.

It's not going to fucking happen, Shannon.

So Shannon is going to join me for the past five today, which is so exciting because I heard you have a very hot take on Sophia Richie's wedding coming for everyone.

Yeah, sorry, in advance.

But before we do that, let's catch up with Shannon.

It's been a while since you've been on the toast because you're literally never in New York because you have a new boyfriend and it's not me, it's James, and he lives in London.

And you're always in London.

You guys are always doing fabulous things without me.

And I just want to know why.

Manon needs to invite you next time.

Manon needs to invite me.

Welcome to come.

Listen, we're about to have some QT together.

Some quality time here, some quality time in Nashville for T.

Swift.

Yes.

Like we're just going to have a lot of time together, but I agree.

I need to get back to New York.

I miss New York.

Although I will say London is a lot like New York.

I'm not gonna lie.

So I feel like it's there, but you're not there.

So it's not the same.

When I was asking people on my social media for questions for you, every single person just wants to know if you're moving to London.

Like, what's the plan?

Your boyfriend lives in London.

You guys are so in love.

It's been almost a year now, right?

Yeah, almost a year, which is crazy because I came on the toast when we had just met.

We had met like two weeks prior.

You and James met like around the time that like you and I met.

Like a few, you and I met

earlier.

Oh my god, no, no, that's so true.

We just started getting close.

Yeah, we 100% started hanging out like a month before I met James.

Yeah, that's really wow.

All the good things came into my life at once.

So true.

Wow, that's actually really sweet.

The universe is just looking out.

Okay, so basically everyone asked that question, which I don't know.

I guess it makes sense because all the people that are asking me live in America, they always see me in London.

So they're like, are you moving there?

But like, what's the plan?

So he's moving to America.

Okay, so there's like, you're not going.

He's in the middle of his visa process.

I would eventually move to London.

I have no problem with that.

Like, I love London.

I really do.

It's very much like New York.

So in the sense that like there's not a lot of space.

It's pretty like it's bustling.

City metropolis.

Yeah, which is really fun and I love that.

James has lived in London his entire life, born and raised.

So he's not from like a town outside of London and England.

He's like from London.

And so anyways, I think he quite likes the idea of an adventure in America.

And I'm building a house.

So I'm fucking staying put, shoddy.

I can't believe you're building a house.

You're such a grown-up.

Wow.

It's crazy.

That was also a bunch of questions we got for you.

You've been sharing like your housebuilding process on social media, which is just like making me green with envy.

I hate you.

And you've also been sharing how like you've been in like your saving money era because you obviously had to put down money on a house.

It's so expensive.

You're building from scratch, right?

Yeah, it's just really crazy because like I'm not a responsible person with money.

I never have been.

I'm still like on the cusp, you could say.

Like I'm every day fighting with myself in the mirror being like, you're such a dumb bitch.

Stop doing that.

Right, right.

Because I like, you know, don't need to be spending crazy amounts of money on stupid things like a Pradabolo tie, but it's just so cute.

Did you you get it?

I've already had it.

I got it two Christmases ago.

It's where actually, affectionately, my sister's wife told me, and I quote, you're really running out of shit to buy yourself.

Let me ask you a question.

What are your thoughts on like wearing fakes?

Because like a Pradabolo tie, you'll probably only wear at Stagecoach.

Like, I don't know.

I feel like in a situation like that, get the fake one.

I live in Nashville, so I've actually worn it a bit, but I will say, I understand fakes for like novelty items like that.

Yeah.

Like there's like anything that's like Louis Vuitton came out with that plastic thingy where it was like see-through, plastic, plastic, whatever.

I'm like, okay, like it's literally plastic.

I know what you're talking about.

Like the see-through duffels.

Yeah, I don't know.

I get it in some cases, but I also, I guess I've just, I wore fakes all the time whenever I was in like my early 20s.

I actually should have saved the $300 I was spending on a fake and just like saved up for a real one.

But I really try not to wear fakes because one, they just break and there's nothing more embarrassing.

I've been in an airport when I was 21.

I'll never forget I was in an airport.

I call my mom like, why did I call my mom?

Like, bitch, go and buy a new bag.

Like, I was like, what do I do?

She was like, bitch, go buy a new bag.

Literally.

But um, I was carrying a Louis Duffle and it split down the middle.

I'm talking, it was literally, it was fake, yes, of course.

That's humilially, split down the middle.

All my stuff came out, and then I ran as quickly as I could.

I like, was like wrapping it up and ran to the whatever store, like gift shop, bought a bag, and then I asked the lady to throw away the ripped Louis Duffle.

And she looked at me like I was out of my mind.

She's like, No.

And I had to look at her and be like, It's fake.

Fine.

I gotta go.

Oh, that's humiliating.

It was, it was, it really, it really triggered me.

So, like, I don't really buy fakes that often.

No, and then I feel like once you buy a fake, it kind of of can create doubt in like other people.

Yeah, it's like, well, if that's fake, everything is 100%.

But I did, I don't, I actually don't currently own any fakes, but there was this Prada beach bag.

Oh, I was telling you about this.

So, James' mother actually and I had this conversation, and I have that Prada beach bag, and you messaged me being like, should I get this?

I want it so bad.

I want it so bad, but it's like so pricey for like a fucking beach bag.

I'll tell you what this beach bag is.

It's a fucking beach bag.

It literally is a beach bag that says Prad on it.

And I bought it.

It was transparently.

It was $1,200.

And I wish I hadn't done that because in that instance, I only use it when I go to the beach.

Of course.

I just thrust it into the sand.

Yep.

And I wish I would have gotten a fake.

And his mom and I were having this conversation because his mom is like very bougie, very like, like...

very just chic, you know, posh Londoner.

And she was talking about fake bags and she's like, yeah, like her and her friends have these conversations.

And she's like, you know, I don't really get fakes, but like something I would never get is like that Prada beach bag.

And I was like, ugh, me either.

No, like, I really want that bag, but honestly, it's so pricey, and I couldn't wrap my head around it.

And it was the first time in my life, I'm like, you know what?

Fake.

Fake.

Get the fake.

Honestly, I kind of want to.

You fraudulent turd.

If you guys see me walking around with a Proud of Each bag, just like, no.

It's not real.

It's fake.

Unless she's borrowing mind, then it's fucking real.

Then, oh, that's true.

Unless I'm borrowing Shannon's.

So, Shannon is going to join me for The Fast Five.

I'm excited.

We actually have a lot of good stories.

And it's our final episode of the week.

Thanks for sticking with us this week, you guys.

Jackie is back on Monday.

She'll be in the studio with me.

And I appreciate, you know, all the support for all the guest co-hosts.

And we're, we're going out with a bang with Shanon.

Couldn't agree more.

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All right, Shanan, are you ready for the fast five stories that you need to know?

I'm so ready.

All right, our first story of the day, we got the new Kardashians trailer.

Oh, God, it was good.

Sometimes it's overhyped.

This one was good.

Well, we don't know if it's going to be overhyped yet because it hasn't come out yet.

I will say, it did look very good.

It looks like she talks about Kanye.

It looks like they talk about the beauty standards that they're setting.

It looks like there's a big drama.

There's been a lot of whispers about what's going on between courtney and kim they're like people think courtney and kim aren't speaking to one another really and they haven't been for a while and this whole trailer debacle with the wedding kind of adds fuel to that fire yeah so i meant it might be over hyped because sometimes you get these trailers and people are like did you see the new trailer i'm like yeah it looked the same as they all did this one looks like you're right like it has some serious tea substance Some serious tea.

So Kim is like crying in the trailer a bunch.

A lot of people think she's crying over Pete.

I don't think she's crying over Pete.

I do not think that.

I think she's crying over Kanye.

It must be that I forget about that time because it was like kind of a long time ago and so much has happened since then.

But when he was just like acting a fool and she's like in this tough position, it's like the father of her kids and she obviously would never want to speak ill of him, but like.

he was making it so hard.

I totally forgot about that time.

And I like, there's nothing I respect more than a mom who knows that her, the father of her children is doing wrong things, but is doing the right thing by not like really trying to make that decision for her kids.

Yep.

And really just like she said a thing in the trailer she says i stay silent so that for i do all this for my kids no i have so much respect for it and i've never once held it against her anything kanye did because i think we all know how kanye is and we know like their relationship and and we know how like much of a invested and protective mother she is so that never once bothered me she's also never jumped to his defense in a way that made me be like shut up like why are you defending him right now she's never done that no she just honestly i think the best thing she can do is stay silent yeah so this trailer actually does look very good.

Um, for me,

I am like gooped and gagged over this Courtney Kim thing.

Like, that's what I need to, I need more information.

I, I, I rarely say this, but when I say I needed, it was like this with the VPR drama.

Like, I needed to know more about the Tom and Rachel saga.

Yeah.

This is something I was in the car.

I was literally in the car and I was like, so Margo, you had gone in to get your

ZZ guy.

That tried to kill me.

R.I.P.

And I was like, okay, so Margo, question.

Are they saying that Kim basically did her, which I'm going to be honest, one of my favorite most recent things that Kim Kardashian has done was the Dolce Navada.

It was iconic.

I thought she looked fabulous.

I loved the way her hair was.

I loved the outfits.

I loved her eating spaghetti.

I loved everything about it.

And I'm like, wait, oh my gosh, I didn't put two and two together.

That was because Courtney's whole entire wedding was Dolce Navada in Italy.

I know, and I have to see how it plays out, but I am more inclined here to take Kim's side.

Really?

Yeah, because first of all, like the girls having any sort of relationship with any fashion house is all Kim's doing.

Like,

they were like seers.

They were low budget.

She couldn't get arrested.

Then she got invited to the Met Gala as Kanye's plus one.

And she worked her whole life.

She works tirelessly to be accepted by like upper echelon fashion people.

True.

And they're in this place now where like, yeah, she's the face of Blenciaga.

She has a campaign with Dolce.

They all go to the Met Gala.

They are that because of Kim.

So you know what?

I don't know if Courtney's mad that like at, I think maybe at her wedding, Kim started the trials to like schmooze with the don't change people.

I don't know what the timeline of events is, but like, I don't know.

Am I crazy to say like I don't think it's that bad?

Well, I'm gonna be very Kendall and Kylie in the trailer right now and say, I see both sides.

Yeah, that was so Kendall and Kylie.

That was so, and they were like, I see both sides.

I'm like, you too.

Pick up fucking side.

I fucking hate people who don't.

What do you stand for?

Yeah,

if you stand for...

Well, never mind.

I'm going to talk that way.

I know.

If you don't stand for anything, you stand for nothing.

No, you'll fall for it.

If you don't stand for anything, you'll fall.

You stand for nothing, you'll fall for everything.

Nailed it.

That was it.

Question.

Okay.

So everyone in their car listening to this is like,

these morons.

So I'm going to say, though, I'm not going to take both sides.

I'm going to say I actually kind of see Courtney's side a little bit because like, couldn't Kim have just made those connections and then been like, hey, after her wedding, like we're going to do this?

Because I'm pretty sure the timeline was kind of crazy.

But the Dolce thing with Kim did come out way after the wedding.

Oh, really?

Yeah, it was.

Well, then I need to see this play out.

I need to see the timeline.

You're right.

The timeline is everything.

And sister dynamics can be like touchy.

I died, though, when Kim was like, I don't know why she's upset.

I made sure that they didn't put me in anything that she wore in her wedding.

I was like, Kim,

at the least.

Yeah, no.

It's not fair to judge the whole situation based off the trailer, but like this actually does look really good.

And I haven't been

excited just because they've been very low-key recently.

But there is a lot that they need to address.

There's kind of been like a crazy year for them.

And the one thing that I didn't see in the trailer that I was really hoping to hear from in the trailer was the Balenciaga saga.

Balenci saga.

The Balenci saga.

I don't know how they can avoid that, but it seems like.

Surely they bring it up.

Maybe they just didn't want to put it in the trailer, but surely they bring it up.

Do you think?

I don't know.

Maybe they're just like, we're not going to touch this.

They don't want to give it a ten, like, give Balenciaga more attention.

I don't know.

I don't know either, but Kim has been like wearing full Balenciaga loops.

Really?

Yeah, like very...

I haven't seen that.

Yeah, I know.

It's like very understated, but she has been wearing it.

I think she still has some sort of relationship with the brand.

I myself have to shelf multiple sweaters.

Well, you know, I was actually in a store recently that sells like a bunch of designer items and we were like walking through the different sections and we walked through the Balenciaga section.

And I was like, by the way, has anyone been shopping here?

And they're like, yeah, actually.

Every time I go by a Balenciaga store, it's always empty.

And I feel like I can't imagine the employees must be closer than ever.

They're always in a little circle and there's always no one to talk to.

They're always chatting it up.

And I thought that I bet this, the only like good that might have come out of this has been that they've really created a family.

Great friendship.

Great friendships within the Balenciaga employee community I don't know because they're only all just talking fucking each other no it's true every time I drive past the store I also like look in I have not seen a single shopper in there in months I have I don't know when I'll wear if I'll ever wear it again but I just like still look at it and like I still like go like so I haven't put any on when the trailer first opened and then like burn my stuff yeah I know everyone's like burn it and I was like well it paid for clothing you paid for it I don't want I just wouldn't burn anything that I owned I would just like either give it away or like just let it sit there I would either just like let it sit there in a box I don't I just don't think I would ever take fire to like

the thing about the trailer is everyone's like, oh my god, she's talking about Pete because they opened the trailer with like the conversation.

And the way I don't care, like not only was that so long ago, like Pete's had two girlfriends since then.

Like I just, I forget that that was even a thing.

And it was so long ago.

I'm like, oh, are they really trying to give us this bullshit?

But then there was so much more tea in the trailer.

Yeah.

But I was like, this is it, really?

It was like a blip on her radar.

Like, we're like, oh, it was a fun little moment.

Like, we, we all, I don't think anything happened with their ending either other than he had to get some tattoos covered up and they she was probably just like it's not you it's me i gotta go right and he was probably like okay bye him right right right right it was just meh yeah i just i i'm not i don't know what they're gonna tell us that we're gonna be shocked by when it comes to their split i agree no there's a lot of interesting stuff about kanya there's a lot of interesting stuff about whatever's going on with the wedding and the dolce

and oh and kylie said that thing about the she was like we really need to um be talking about our families um like the decisions we make that like impact the beauty standard we set yeah And she was like, I don't want my daughters to do the same things that I did.

But I'm like curious to see if she's going to be like, I don't want my daughters to like look in the mirror and like think that they look big one day.

I want to tell them they're beautiful.

I want to be like, Kylie, talk about like what you do to your face, your butt, your boobs.

You're like, what are you talking about?

I know.

It's like, unless they go full in to have this conversation.

And I don't, I do not, and I think I'm unique in this.

Like, I do not hold them responsible for any decisions they make about their bodies and how it impacts culture.

Like, I think that's like an unfair burden to put on someone.

And I have this conversation all the time.

And I know a lot of people don't agree with me.

And that's that's fine.

But so I don't need them to have this conversation.

I think a lot of people do.

They're like, finally, they're talking about it.

I don't need them to have this conversation.

But if they're going to have it, they have to go balls to the wall like 100% transparent.

And I don't think, they don't owe us that either.

So I don't think they are.

Okay, so I'm actually not just saying this to agree with you for real, for real.

I genuinely, I think that like, I agree in the sense that everyone's doing the same shit to their body that they are.

And I don't know if everyone is doing it because they want to look like a Kardashian.

I think actually if you like went down to Miami, you would see that everyone was doing this before the Kardashians.

They're going to do it after the Kardashians.

The Kardashians are just seen on a much larger scale and a much larger stage.

So like I agree in the sense that it's not the Kardashian effect.

It's like the genre and era we're in effect.

But here's the thing.

Even if it is the Kardashian effect, I don't really feel like that's their problem because they are, you know.

people with bodily autonomy.

They should be able to make whatever decisions.

They want to gain weight.

They want to lose weight.

They want to get plastic surgery.

They want to do something.

Like they should be able to make decisions about their bodies without having to worry about how it affects the culture.

Like, that's a huge weight to carry.

That is a burden.

I just, I agree with you.

I hope they're not like, yeah, like everyone's beautiful from the inside out.

I'm like, if you're going to fucking talk about it, talk about it.

Don't do it just to have a like moment for Kylie's segment on the show.

Like I want it to be like good.

It has to be like legit, authentic.

conversation.

And I don't think it will be.

So I think they should just ignore it, honestly.

Yeah, I just cut Kylie's scenes.

She's always so sweet.

Kylie really is like so interesting and so fabulous.

She just gives nothing to the show.

I think she does it to protect her piece which I totally understand but like come on she wants to be like like out of the I don't even think she wants to be out of the spotlight but I think she just all every time I see her she's like bringing clothes over to Chloe or she's like putting her hand on someone's back being like it's gonna be okay she's like a sounding board yeah she's really sweet and wonderful but I'm like I think like you know

I want more from her.

I'm always she but Kylie always leaves us wanting more and maybe that's why I feel like of all of them she's really not like super overexposed.

She's low-key like very private yeah sometimes it feels like with the main girls like they it's like a little bit too much and and it's like a lot of exposure but i don't feel that way with kylie no i wish she would do more i wish she would come back i wish you would i wish you would um okay our next story uh we're talking about sophia grange excuse me's honeymoon um oh where's she going well so she has been posting a bunch of stuff with elliot the newlyweds enjoyed a romantic bike ride in the first glimpse of their vacation since tying the knot in the south of france last weekend the 24-year-old bride did not reveal the location of her and elliot's Elliot's getaway.

She posted several Instagram story photos of their tropical trip on Thursday.

You haven't figured it out?

No.

And you know what?

I was looking and I'm so curious.

It looks like Maldives, Fiji.

It's very tropical.

It's white sands.

Oh my God, I would think for sure the internet sluice of the world would be like that palm tree on the left with the branch.

We saw that in 2007.

Nope, Mumbai.

These upper echelon, like actual like 0.01%,

they go to like these private islands.

Like this is not a hotel any of us have ever been to.

My first thought was like, where the fuck is this?

Maybe like Lionel's friend has an island, you know?

I could see that.

I don't know where it is, but I just wanted to use this story as one.

She looks great, so happy.

Oh, and you were showing me

a TikTok that pointed out it looked like Sophia Ritchie got her breast implants removed.

Oh, yeah.

I saw that.

It was like, well, when she was in Scott, people were comparing her pictures in a bikini with her husband now to old pictures of her in bikinis where she like clearly had implants.

And it does, it looks like like she got them taken out she looks much more natural and small and i think she looks great i think they just like suit her body better yeah i thought that was interesting teeny tiny little tot that like didn't need like some knockers well this honeymoon story is like not that interesting but i did want to use it as a sounding board because i know shannon has like a diatribe to deliver about sophia richie's wedding so oh my god i don't i just like genuinely in the car i was like this might be a hot take but like i just wasn't that blown away i think like the internet like grasps onto something and then everyone's like oh my god are you watching it are you watching it and i was like i do think that like some of her like chanel lukes were like really like classy and stunning but i just wasn't i didn't understand why we were so so so so so engulfed with it like i know everyone's like so i'm like seeing tick tocks it's like um old money is back old money i'm like well not of us fucking have old money and a lot of us have spent our new money on it prodabolo ties and i don't want old money to come back in style literally no because i am like really trashy and obvious but i do think that um it was just a bit overhyped in the sense that like i'm not discrediting her love she looked really happy she looked like i really do love the era of like the comparison with her and with her and scott like i'm so much happier for her in this era of her life more like mature and like it's more pulled back it seems more her it seems more genuine even when she was with scott she almost looked so out of place in her little like sparkly pink jumpsuits i'm like you don't you aren't meant to be here no actually do you remember she used to date justin bieber yeah of course so she is giving haley bieber in the sense that like she's always been that-esque so like i'm really happy for her i just didn't think the wedding was that fucking cool.

The only thing I thought was cool is when good Charlotte played lifestyles of the rich and the famous, and then there was all rich and famous people.

Famous, rich people were dancing to it.

I was like, iconic.

So good.

But let me explain, I think, why there's like this obsession.

And I think it's like it was the culmination of like, yeah, it was a beautiful wedding.

It was south of France.

It was very expensive, all that, yada, yada.

But it was the culmination of that, plus like the elements of her being a Nepo baby, but in a really like not annoying way.

Like Barbara Richie is so legendary, and then there's Nicole Ritchie, and then there's Nicole Ritchie's husband.

Love.

And then there's Nicole Ritchie's husband's brother, and Nicole Ritchie's husband's brother's wife, Cameron Diaz.

And then Paris was there, and it was like Paris and Nicole.

There were so many elements of pop culture.

That's really true.

Like a melting pot.

And then Sophia just like came out of the woodwork as this like it girl.

Like this, she was so, everything she did was like so pulled back and so classy and tasteful and not in like an overt money kind of way, which it could have been because totally.

He, her husband, is richer than her.

Really?

His, her husband, his dad, is the chairman of Universal Music Group, which is like another one.

He's the chairman.

MMG.

These, and his, oh, and his mom and dad are a lady and a, what's the title that goes with a lady?

You would know.

You're British now.

I don't know, an earl?

No, it's

sir and lady.

Okay.

Like they're the aristocrat.

Like, okay.

There's a lot in this wedding once you start to unpack.

That, I think, is where the fascination is.

Okay.

Because the wedding itself was absolutely gorgeous, but it wasn't unlike a a wedding we've ever seen from a celebrity in terms of like the flowers and shit But just like the people and all the different details about everyone there and what we knew about them It came it ended up being extremely fascinating.

Okay, you know what?

I'm a steak.

I'll flip you flip I'll flip.

Yeah, you can stand your ground if you want I just I guess I kept getting targeted for all the outfit things and everyone's like everyone was like I'm gogging I'm

and I was like okay it's a lace dress like it's okay.

It's beautiful.

But like I just don't get the hype with like the channel.

Like I'm like,

But now that you've explained it in that way, I understand why people wanted the ins and outs.

And I wish I had dug deeper.

I would have been maybe more fascinated.

But wait, I also do agree with you.

Like, the way people just get gagged over things on social media that are not that gag worthy, but they do it just to like, it's like we were talking about this this morning.

Like when beauty gurus like on social media try foundations and they put like a dot of the foundation on their face, they're like, oh my god.

And they stop.

I'm gonna die.

Like the coverage.

Like there's just like this sensationalized like trend on social media where it's like like we have to be so fucking breathless yeah over everything it's like calm the fuck it's fucking brown liquid eyeliner like the girl like does a little wing and she's like look are you seeing this she's like are you seeing this guys look okay i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm like you don't have to be sorry sis it's fucking brown liquid eyeliner no so okay that i agree with in terms of like the way people were reacting and such like that's the tick tocks i was targeting by the way i agree with you so we both agree with each other stakes we'll float today's episode is brought to you by urban stems urban stems delivers modern bouquets and stylish plants next day and nationwide.

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All right, speaking of, we were just talking about Paris Hilton.

I was completely shocked to learn that Paris Hilton is going to attend the Met Gala for the first time ever.

Did you know that she had never gone?

No, wait, hold on.

That can't be, that's true.

According to Page Salt.

Is the first time she's invited or first time she's decided to go?

That's a good question.

So Paris Hilton is finally headed to the Met Gala.

The heiress, DJ, and author will attend Fashion's Biggest Night for the first time ever this year.

Page 6 style has confirmed.

TMZ was the first to report that Paris would be attending.

Sources told the outlet that Hilton scored a coveted invite from Vogue and the designer of her look for the event, details, which are still under wrap.

So we don't know which designer she's going to be going with, but she was famously friends with the late designer, Carl Lagerfeld, whose life and work are the theme of this year's Met Gala Institute.

So I wonder why that's why she was invited.

Because actually the more you were saying it, the more I was like, actually, Parisulton doesn't give me Met Gala, and they are pretty picky with their list.

Like they are.

They're weird.

Still.

But then, you know what they're also weird about?

They'll do like who's ever super, super popular in the moment.

Like I actually, of course, I don't think.

like this would really happen this year, but like they're the kind of people that would invite Alex Earl to the Met Gala because she's having such a moment.

Oh my God.

If Alex Earl goes to the Met Gala, I will die of joy.

I would be so happy.

She would just be so thrilled.

She'd just be there smiling.

She'd just be so grateful.

She'd post a TikTok being like, how am I here?

And we'd be like, you're fucking Alex Earl.

I don't even feel like that's that crazy.

I feel like she could go.

Dixie and Charlie went.

That's what I'm saying.

So like, I think, no, but I'm sorry.

The fact that like Dixie and Charlie went and like James Charles has went and like Nikki tutorials, so many influencers.

When like Paris was like really like at the, she was like the spearheader, a pioneer of like influencer movement in terms of like not being famous for like a particular trade and skill.

She really like was a huge part.

I mean, if you saw the American meme documentary, like she really is a pioneer of like the influencer age.

And for her to have not ever been is actually crazy when they've now opened, they've since opened up to influencers.

Right.

I think maybe they were just waiting for her resurgence because she has had such a resurgence lately.

Yeah.

Kyle's actually, his background of his screen, as long as I've known him on his phone, has been that picture iconically of Paris Holden, that swearing a shirt that says, stop being poor.

I love that, that photo.

Okay, but you know that photo is Photoshopped.

No.

It doesn't say, that t-shirt doesn't say stop being poor poor in real life.

What does it say?

Something dumb.

Oh my God.

I have to tell Kyle.

But what's also interesting is that Nikki Hilton has attended the Met Ball just one time in 2001.

As a guest of someone?

I guess.

Nikki Hilton is like very fashion girly.

She's not so much like mainstream as Paris.

Yeah.

She's very like, she goes to like fashion shows and she's like friends with the Valentino family.

Oh, I did know that.

But I find that interesting.

Huh.

Well, I'm excited to see her look.

I really can't wait.

I think it's going to be sliving.

I think it's going to be sliving too.

I'm just like, I'm gooped and gagged to know that she's never been invited or she's never attended.

My stomach's making the craziest noises, and I keep wondering if the mic is picking it up.

So, if you guys have been hearing some rumbling and grumbling, it's actually not Claude Turdy McLou, it's me.

By the way, I thought you were gonna say, like, you might have caught what I had, but what I had wasn't contagious.

No, no.

Um, okay, our fourth story is a little Chance the Rapper news.

Did you see that video going viral of Chance the Rapper?

Like,

getting torque on ding, yes, but I have, I, I, where was he at again?

Uh, somewhere, I think some sort of island.

Jamaica.

Okay, so culturally, that's how they dance.

I am.

It is like not, like, I think that is totally what they do normally, and it's not anything.

I mean, I know you're going to look and think, what do you mean she's from like American culture?

But I think that's truly, like, it's like if you had gone and seen someone doing salsa with someone that wasn't their husband or wife, and they'd be, like, looking really sexual and sexy, but like, that's how salsa is intended to be danced.

Jamaicans just genuinely, that is how they dance.

I completely agree.

I think it's really common at a lot of those carnival festivals that they do on the islands and they do in Brazil.

But his wife has now posted a cryptic quote quote

after that dance went viral.

Well, they're super, super, super religious.

So that's.

Are they?

Are you joking, Chance the Rapper?

Are you joking?

No, I didn't know that.

I'm not.

Oh my God.

He all like, like immensely so.

Immensely.

I want to say, this could be so inaccurate.

I want to say he doesn't cuss in his raps.

I could be so wrong.

He, but he and his wife are very, very, very Christian.

Very.

That could be such a lie.

I I could be lying, but like, he's, they're, he, like, they're very religious.

So, about a week after he went viral for dancing inappropriately with another woman, his wife, Kristen Corley, shared a cryptic message on her Instagram.

She posted an excerpt from Maya Angelou's essay called Home, which discusses how most people never mature.

It says this: Most people don't grow up.

It's too damn difficult.

What happens is, most people get older.

That's the truth of it.

Oh, they honor their credit cards, they find parking spaces, they have the nerve to have children, but they don't grow up.

Oh, not really, they just get older.

Oh, wow.

So Maya Angelou then continues, but to grow up costs the earth, the earth.

It means you take responsibility for the time you take up, to the space you occupy.

It's serious business.

So his wife highlighted that answer.

What a quote, by the way, Maya Angelou.

Like, what a quote.

What a quote.

And she captioned the post.

I hope one day we all choose to grow up.

Oh, no.

Well, do you think maybe she's talking about all of us?

I don't know.

That's a really good point.

But no, I just Googled it just to make sure I wasn't wrong, not about the cussing.

But Chance the Rapper considers himself a Christian rapper.

He doesn't even.

That's why him and Justin Bieber were like all up and up and yeah.

They were all about song.

Me too.

That's

all humly, humly, humly, humble.

Yeah, yeah, Chance the Rapper and Justin Bieber.

You're right, you're right.

Exactly.

Okay, anyways.

Oh, so there's like, this is a layered story.

Yeah, but I will say, I mean, to be fair, even, you know, culture aside, he was getting his bing-bong absolutely rammed against by-I want to say, culture or not there was some penis and vagina like yeah, that was that's the but he he wasn't being recorded secretly He's like looking at the camera like he knows fair, so I don't know, but this is a very cryptic diagnostic It's a cryptic quote.

Yeah.

Wow.

Okay.

I'm very I'm interested to see how that plays out.

I hope they you know stick it out.

I know they're also very private.

I think a lot of people didn't even know he had a wife and two kids.

Oh, really?

I feel like that's also not true because he openly talks about how much he loves his family because he's like super Christian rapper.

I mean, I didn't know that.

and i really like chance the rapper and i i honestly i saw the video and i didn't think it was that crazy like i get it i know that that's like a thing a tradition that's done culturally yeah i just didn't it looked more like a joke like like he was like oh uh oh oh my goodness what's happening it looked like one of those things he wasn't like oh yeah i'm loving this oh yeah he wasn't giving that vibe yeah no he wasn't like giving and the fact that it wasn't like filmed sneaky from the side like everyone called chance the rapper i don't know i choose to see the good in people me too um is your fifth story gonna be about glenn powell no but...

Can we talk about it?

Please.

We've been talking about it all week.

What's your story?

Oh, oh, okay, never mind.

No, no, I want to hear what you have to say.

No, I just, I just.

Even though,

even though I believe someone from Sydney's team yesterday spoke to Outlets being like, she's still very much engaged to this guy.

Yeah, I think that they're doing a classic.

Actually, did Matthew McConaughey and Kate Hudson ever actually did it in real life?

I think they might have, but what we're referring to, we like to call the...

Oh, hold on, me and Jackie.

We're just talking about this.

Guys, help me.

You guys are probably screaming at your phones.

Wait, I need silence for one second.

Who just did this?

And like, we all went, oh,

lady got an infrared video.

Yeah, whatever.

I just think like they're doing that, but we don't, if you guys have ever talked about, we don't talk about it.

The only thing I want to talk about is like, holy shit, I did not realize how hot he is.

I am absolutely engulfed in whatever, like, if he becomes the next like rom-com man of our generation, I'm here for it.

I find him to be absolutely stellar looking.

I completely agree, Shanann.

Rob's really hot.

And I actually think this whole scandal, which is what I've been saying all week, is that it's very good for him because people don't think about him a lot.

Like, he's kind of like

top gun that Zoe Deutsch Netflix rom-com that people like.

What's it called?

I don't know.

The setup.

Never seen it.

Or set it up or something.

I've never seen it.

He has like a, he has a following, but this is definitely going to catapult him to the next level.

And honestly, what would really catapult him to the next level is if they really just started dating.

Yeah, that, and if the movie's good.

I would love to see the movie.

Yes.

Okay, but no, our fifth and final story is James Corden.

Last night was his farewell to the late late show.

Oh, really?

Yeah, I saw a bunch of clips of like the sketches they did that seemed really cute and funny.

Harry Styles was there.

They actually did this sketch that I thought was hilarious with all the other late night co-hosts, Seth Meyers, Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon, Stephen Colbert, and James Corden.

Oh, wow.

It was hysterical.

And I will say, like, James Corden has had a rough year.

I feel like he became like, it's like Anne Hathaway syndrome.

Like, you get so popular that you automatically become hated for like seemingly nothing.

But I don't know.

I actually do like him.

Well, we know that my affinity in life is Balthazar New York.

so oh yeah what were your thoughts on his him allegedly being the most hated man in balthazar restaurant i mean i just like could care less like i was just like okay i'm sure he was a dick like i don't know like so you don't have to but it was just funny the guy what's his name kevin Yeah, he's like, you are no longer ever allowed at my restaurant.

And then he made it lame because he kept going back and forth, being like, never mind, he called me, never mind, he's not allowed, never mind this.

I'm like, okay.

He was acting like a fool.

Like, it was so crazy.

I didn't, I just thought it was like funny about the things he said James Corden complained about.

But I just like, I don't really, I'm so nice to everyone in restaurants.

I can't imagine I'll ever get to a place in my life where I won't be.

So rude, yeah.

But like, I mean, I don't know.

I just don't think anyone can ever be canceled for being mean to a waiter.

That's what Jackie and I's take were, was.

So it's just been like a bad year for him.

And I feel like he's probably looking forward to like being off the show because he needs to like get out of the headlines for a while.

When you're like so in the media, with really like...

What else has happened other than that though?

Um, he every time he gets cast in something, everyone's like, oh my god, no.

Really?

Cats.

I think he's in wicked.

Everyone's just like, enough.

He's just like, he's everywhere all at once.

And I think what happens in the culture, it's like this happened with Anne Hathaway.

It's like she wasn't even doing that much media, but like she was just in the media all the time.

People get so annoyed with you, they start to fucking hate you.

And it's like not fair because you didn't do anything wrong, but people can't explain their dislike for you.

I feel like that happened with Taylor Swift, too.

Yes, of course.

It happens to a few people.

I feel like it happened to Chrissy Teigen many years ago.

Oh my God.

Yeah.

She was just so overexposed.

And it wasn't even her doing.

She wasn't doing interviews, but we're like, just shut up.

Everyone was, I actually felt that way about Chrissy Teigen.

I was like, enough.

Enough.

She wasn't doing it.

She wasn't coming to my house.

Me, like, read this about me.

It was just BuzzFeed.

It was BuzzFeed just writing shit up about her, like, dumbass shit.

Everyone.

And then, like, e-news was just always posting about her.

And I was like, shut up.

The funny thing in the sketch last night was like all the co all the hosts got together and they were like well before you leave we have to like split up your ideas and everyone was like okay i want carpal karaoke and then jimmy felon was like no i want carpal karaoke and then everyone was like no i want carpal karaoke and james corn's like you guys i have more than one good idea like not really not really but it was true carpal and and he's been in the news a lot this week because carpal karaoke was a segment they started with a dele and this week he aired his final Carpal Karaoke, which he ended with Adele.

Oh, it was really sweet.

Oh, I love that.

I know.

I'm just like sad.

We never got a Taylor Swift Carpal karaoke.

Me too.

Damn.

Anyone who didn't do Carpal Karaoke, like, will never.

Yeah, it's true.

Wow.

Everything that Adele does kind of makes me want to cry.

Of like this, like, deep-rooted, like, sweetness.

Sweetness and love.

Yeah.

She's really, like, a nice person.

My friend's convinced she's like an alien or a psychic or something.

She's like, she just has so much like passion and power with like people's emotions.

Yeah.

No, like the chokehold she has everyone under is not normal.

Totally.

Wow.

Mannon.

Mannon.

You did good.

Thank you so much, Claude, for having me.

Those are the past five.

We've just been staring at a golf course this whole time.

I know.

We're not even looking at each other.

This is like kind of the weirdest way I've ever podcasted.

We're like

laying in bed, which is fine.

I've podcasted in bed a million times, but we're not looking at each other.

We're both looking at the window because the view from my bedroom is really so gorgeous.

Claude got the master, obviously.

Yeah, I did get the master bedroom, but that's because I was sick.

And I want to say, I did not ask for it.

I was secretly hoping for it because there's enough bedrooms per people so like it was just you know and everyone was like yeah claudia can have it i was like oh really this is the

i did find and book the house but

you were never knocking at the master and rightfully so no really and i told the primary bedroom sorry i said anyone can sleep with me like no one wants to sleep with me i like to sleep with people shana how many times have i told you to get in my bed

for someone who said that i was trying to fuck you and my neglect you have asked me to get in your bed like three times she woke up and came into my bed this morning i was like hey shann come inside and then she went to bed with me last night i'm like hey hey, Shannon, you want to watch TV?

And I'm like, hey, Shannon, I want to get in my bed and podcast.

Maybe we're both trying to fuck each other.

Maybe.

We see each other.

We see fuck each other.

I love that for a while.

Wow.

I cannot wait to make so many TikToks and absolutely gag everyone with our outfits.

It's so important to know it's 9.30 in the morning and we literally will not be leaving for the festival for eight hours.

We will arrive so early.

So I'm probably going to have diarrhea again, if I'm being honest, and maybe take a nap.

I too would like to follow in your footsteps.

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