Popcorn-Gate: Tuesday, April 18th, 2023

Good morning millennials and welcome back to the toast happy Tuesday.

Hope everyone's having a great day.

We are because it's another day of Jackson Claude original recipe 2022 version of us back in the studio Jackson Claude wearing new merch 2023.

No, it's 2022 in 2023.

Is that what you're saying?

Like I said it yesterday and you kind of like didn't get it then and I don't think you're getting it in.

We're so involved that like honestly

I'm not 2022 Jax.

I'm not 2021 Jax you're certainly

not 2022, Claude.

Visually, like we are, in terms of the setup, giving old energy.

We are, except vintage.

We are, in a sense.

I understand what you're saying.

The vibe is similar, but we're so new and fresh, especially today in our new fresh merch, which is our first merch drop with our new logo.

Yes, it has also just been a while since we've done a merch drop.

We wanted to really make this one cute.

We know you guys love our crew necks.

And for summer, I'm obsessed with these.

First of all, color-wise, they're so summery.

So summery they're so light they're not like really heavy or i'm not sweating i i love we're coming out with two different um crew necks i'm wearing the pink one obviously jackie's wearing the teal one the one jackie's wearing has our new logo on the left breast as you can see if you're watching on youtube and then when you flip it around we got our brand new logo you just hold it in place yeah great logo

It's so cute.

Again, really thin, good material.

Perfect for like, you know,

a cool spring evening.

It's not like a long sleeve.

No, it's not a long sleeve.

These are the same crew necks as the other pink and teal ones we did, the sorority.

Sorority, yeah.

Yeah.

And of course, we're going to come out with a few matching accessories like phone cases and mugs and stuff.

But the merch launch, the official rebrand

merch launch is tomorrow, Wednesday the

Thursday.

Wednesday.

Oh.

Wednesday the 19th.

Wednesday the 19th at 10 a.m.

Eastern Time.

Our website is Toastmerch.

All the information will be on our Instagram, so we will never let you forget.

But I'm excited.

It's been a while.

Yeah, I'm excited too.

These are such fun sweatshirts.

It's been a while since I've had like fresh merch.

I feel like so much of my merch, I've worn it to the topic and I wash it so much that like the pink is no longer pink.

Okay, I misspoke, Jackie was right.

You were right.

I was right.

Yeah, no, I was shy.

I was like, I'm for sure right, but let me just double check.

Launching 420, Theo's birthday, Day of the Gone.

It's Theo's birthday merch launch.

It's Theo's birthday merch launch.

I'm so sorry.

It's 420.

That's so easy to remember.

So we won't be counting how many candles for his cake.

No.

But we will be dropping merch.

Exactly.

That's what Theo would want.

100% because he supports business.

He's a businessman, though.

420, 10 a.m.

Eastern Time, toastmerch.com.

I'm so excited.

I'm so excited as well.

I'm really excited about the new logo.

I love this like teal one.

It's just so

simple and polished.

Did you show everyone yours?

Because yours is not.

No, so we have two different designs.

The one Jackie's wearing is, you know, very much logo.

Classic.

Class.

The classic.

Classic.

And this one's more of like

a self-expression, if that makes sense.

It's more expressive.

So here we have Turdy Lou wearing the new the toast

pink/slash coral crew neck.

She looks gorgeous in it.

She's wearing a size large.

I too am wearing a size large, and I like the size large.

It's actually a really nice large.

It's a large that feels like a real large.

I agree.

It's like a, it's roomy.

Yeah.

I love it.

I can't wear like

people who wear like crew necks fitted in their regular size like are truly insane.

Yeah.

Well, no, if you, that's what you like, just get whatever crew neck you want.

Oh, yeah.

Throughout we're trying to run a business here.

And people who do that are so cool.

Like you should all just like buy whatever you want.

No, it's a cute, like it is cute when other people do it.

It's just not cute on me.

No, me neither.

No.

You know?

No.

No need to yuck others' yums.

But that's literally what I do for a living.

It's true.

So I'm so excited about that.

I'm just excited to be sitting here with you.

Me?

Another great show.

And hopefully.

Great show.

We do have good stories.

Oh, good.

Okay.

No TV recap today because there was nothing on last night, correct?

Correct.

I've just been reading my book, which is getting pretty good.

I like it.

Good.

And we're just feeling, how are you feeling?

I'm feeling like a little agitated.

Why?

Could not sleep.

My sleep wasn't glorious.

Actually, my sleep was pretty crappy.

It was probably worse than yours, but I've stopped.

But mine was so short.

I stopped noticing.

Mine was short too.

What time did you go to bed?

I went to bed around 11, but like sleeping in fits and starts, and then Harry woke us up at 5:30.

Why?

I don't know.

And he then he went back to sleep, but like I didn't.

And then I did go back to sleep from like 7.30 to 8.15.

Oh, that like doesn't count.

Yeah, it's something.

I honestly had forgotten about it until you started complaining.

Oh, sorry.

No, I mean,

I was up from 11.30 to 2.30.

Like, and I was thinking, I was trying to pinpoint why I couldn't sleep.

Like, it didn't make sense.

You know, I didn't have like anything really particularly on my mind.

And

I didn't drink any soda.

I can't drink soda after like three o'clock now.

I'm like a grandma.

Or like even a snapple.

Like caffeine really hits me.

And I was like...

Were you hungry?

Not really.

I had what you

had.

I had some steak that I reheated.

I was talking about my steak yesterday.

And then I got a little hungry a few hours later.

And Ben had actually left some frojo in the.

How generous?

Yeah, like

it was a totally like good meal.

And then I actually think even after that, I had an ice pop.

I was really hungry.

But so you were hungry.

Because hunger can keep you up.

But like I like, I know when I'm hungry, I wasn't hungry.

Like I ate a shit shit ton, you know?

And then I was trying to pinpoint, like, maybe I took something in the day that was, I couldn't figure it out.

But I have been experiencing, like, I don't even want to talk about it because it makes me so upset.

But, like, I have been experiencing like

hair loss.

You could talk about it.

Open up.

I really don't want to, because like it makes me really upset.

And like, I actually could cry because the one thing I've had in this life is my hair.

I have been ugly.

I have been beautiful.

Like, my hair has always been with me.

Like, I have been canceled.

I have been not.

Like, do you know what I mean?

Like, my hair has always been me.

I feel so connected to my hair.

Except for that one year in eighth grade when you cut it short.

Yes.

That was a very dark time.

Thank you for bringing that up.

That was like actually probably one of the ugliest I've ever been.

Except you were so cute.

No,

okay.

Okay.

I totally forgot about that.

Oh, my God.

That was really bad.

Why'd you guys let me do that?

I,

you know, you got to try new things.

And the good thing you didn't do it later in life.

It's so true when like it actually mattered.

Right.

So I've just been experiencing like.

Really bad I don't even know what to call it if it's like thinning or shedding basically um like I've noticed over the last like two months every time I brush my hair or do my hair It's like crazy and Ben has had to like snake our train like on a weekly basis because my hair is just like it's like kind of falling out and people haven't noticed and it's because I have so much hair and I'm so grateful for that but like now I just have like honestly a normal amount of hair and it's just been like giving me terrible anxiety and so you had the great idea like a few days ago for me to start taking prenatal vitamins.

I'm not pregnant.

Because you were waiting for all the things that you ordered to come and you were hanging out with me and my prenatals were right there.

And I was like, they are great for hair, skin and nail growth.

Look at these nails.

Yeah.

So I was like, just take it while you wait for your other things.

So that's what I've been doing.

I've been taking biotin.

Of course, herd, like, I've gotten so many good recommendations from people.

Honestly, so many people recommended Nutrofol, which is how I first found out about it.

But then last night, I was like, oh my God, did I take my prenatal vitamins too late?

Do prenatal vitamins have caffeine?

Like, I could not figure out why I was being fucking kept awake.

No, I take mine at like 11 o'clock.

I was like, oh my God, how did I not think?

Of course there's caffeine.

Pregnant women need caffeine.

No, we like, we can have a little bit, but we would prefer to get it from a coffee.

I thought it was like your daily dose of pregnant caffeine.

No, no, no, no, no.

No, it's like your daily dose of like folic acid.

So important to have folic acid.

Yeah, for the follicles.

Oh my God.

I don't know if that's related, but it sounds good.

So it's just something I'm dealing with.

And I've like always just heard of other people, I know through you, obviously, but that was like pregnancy related, so it's like much more common.

Yeah.

Olivia, before she was a mom, had experienced bad hair loss.

And it was so traumatizing for her.

And it was just something I never had to deal with.

And I kind of like, like, felt like I was.

I was better above it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I felt like I was better than everyone.

Like, that wasn't going to be a problem for me.

And obviously, I know it's because of, like, I've had a recent, you know, drastic change in diet.

Like, I know the reasoning.

That's yeah.

It just fucking sucks.

Like, it does, but, like, it should give you solace that the reason is actually a really great reason.

Like, you've lost a lot of weight.

So, you know, everything is like a give and take away.

But it doesn't make sense.

Like, I'm so much healthier now.

Like, shouldn't my hair reflect that?

Yeah.

Like, I'm eating more nutrient-dense food.

Like, I'm having salads multiple times a week.

Before, when my hair was so thick, I had a salad since like 1997.

Yeah.

So it just doesn't make sense.

That's just something I'm dealing with.

And like, honestly, I don't even want to talk about it because like every time I do, I start crying.

It's just like my hair is so important to me.

Well, no one could tell.

I certainly couldn't tell

from your actual head of hair.

And I'm just curious, like, okay, so my hair is falling out, but like, why isn't the leg hair falling out?

You know, why does it happen?

Why isn't my bush falling out?

You know, it's so annoying.

That's why the human body makes no sense.

Oh, I'm having hair loss.

Okay.

At least I could benefit a little bit from it.

Okay, here's the thing, though.

If your leg hair and your bush were falling out, also then that would have to mean your eyebrows and your eyelashes were falling out.

Ooh, straight backs.

Straight backs.

So I think we should leave things as they are.

Yeah, no, my leg, just checking.

My leg hair has definitely not,

it hasn't.

Okay, that's true.

That's true.

Perspective.

Key.

Key.

Well, thank you for opening up, Turdi.

You're welcome.

We've all, I'm glad that everyone who has experienced hair loss before you can give you all their tips and tricks and that you caught it really before anyone besides you and me noticed.

Yeah, like I noticed it, but like I can't, in the beginning, it really didn't bother me.

Like I was thinking, I'm like, you know, I have so much hair.

If I lose a tenth of it, maybe it'll help me like do my hair quicker.

But then it got to a point where like when I put my hair up in a ponytail, you can like see a lot of my scalp.

And that like freaks me out because that just makes you look like so scary.

It's okay.

Yeah.

So that's what I'm dealing with.

And maybe that was keeping you up.

No, it wasn't actually.

I actually didn't even think about my hair loss last night.

I was like so

wanting to kill someone.

Also when that could keep you up, the anger.

Yeah.

So dreary.

It's a vicious cycle.

Also, Ben wasn't home.

And when Ben's not home, I'm like, I can't sleep.

Yeah.

The house was making sounds.

And I just read this like thriller.

Which one?

Serafina?

No.

Well, I did just read On a Quiet Street by Serafina.

But it was tough because I read a book and I didn't like it.

We were talking about this.

I FaceTimed you because I needed advice.

What do you do?

And this is definitely like a niche problem.

I don't think this is like a relatable thing.

No, no, it's extremely niche.

What do you do do when you dislike a book and you want to like, you know, warn others that like you didn't like it or not recommend it?

And you're like known for your book recs.

And also, like, you know, there are some books you don't like.

So you have to share your truth.

And so what do you do when you want to share that truth, but you are told that the author, um,

someone responded to the story right when you posted it saying the author follows you and I'm pretty sure she's a Patreon member.

I don't know how they would know that, but then she did follow me.

So then I was like, oh, maybe she is a Patreon member.

And I deleted it because, and I just want to say, it's not reflective of this author.

I read this book because I I loved another book that she wrote this one was just like silly like it wasn't for me um

and I just deleted it immediately and like I don't run into this problem a lot because if a author follows me I think it's because I like their books and then they see that I like them yeah so like Ellen Hildebrand follows always just it's always good congratulatory and everyone just patting each other I've never disliked an Ellen Hildebrandt book I've liked more as others more than than some but what do you do is this a problem you run into as a read head yes

Not so much that I know for a fact that someone saw something that I didn't like and it was their book, but I always have it in mind.

And I feel like there are some authors who are just like girly swirlies.

And then there are some who would literally never know you.

Yeah.

If.

You can tell when they're definitely not listening to the toes.

Right.

So when it's like a book like that, I'll give my, speak my truth on it.

But that is why, even though I'm pretty, you know, in the book scene and a book fluencer, I'm not trying to like establish authorial relationships.

Yeah.

Because I just want to be able to read books and share my opinions.

And that's why you don't have like, you've had authors who like publicists reach out to come on.

That's the whole reason why,

but like, it's, it's part of it.

But I do actually in order to maintain like your integrity almost.

I would like to have more authors on the redheads.

This is something we talked about, probably on a Patreon, like to do two episodes a month where it's like one is the book of the month and the other is like an interview with either an author or like a fellow book influencer, a reader.

There's so many different like facets.

I just don't have the time right now, but like if I ever find myself with like more time on my hands and I want to expand and do more, like that's what I would do.

Another episode of Redheads where like I talk to authors that I like and just chit-chat about books.

It's so funny how we both have like contingency plans.

Like if we ever...

That's not a contingency plan.

No, no.

What I mean, contingency plan, like for our

extra time.

Oh, what's yours?

Start a podcast with Ben.

Like I've been saying forever.

But the problem isn't time.

It's content.

No, no.

No, it's really time.

It really is time, especially for Ben.

Once a week.

That's fine.

Like, I actually, at this current juncture, not being on tour, I could.

I could get it done.

But what would you talk about?

We'd figure it out.

No, that's not a recipe for a podcast.

No, no, we would figure it out.

Like, the first, we would figure it out.

Like, I don't, I also don't like when podcasts are so

structured to the point where it's like, yes, every podcast needs like a niche, but I think some people like pigeonhole themselves into that niche so deeply.

yes but you need a niche otherwise like yeah but i think our niche is just like coupley like fighting like you know what i mean no no i know that that would be like a part of the show but you need a structure otherwise structure yeah of course other and you need like a concept i don't think so honestly not for ben and i you're different no no i think certain certain podcasts even certainly people we need a concept and we're pop culture no we're fast five yeah that's structure like that's that's a segment.

It's a concept.

Like Ben and I would have segments for sure.

It wouldn't just be like an hour-long ramble, like similar to good guys.

What category would it be?

They ramble comedy.

We'd be competing with ourselves.

It wouldn't be like relationships.

Is that?

No, because I don't think we would be giving relationship advice.

Like, honestly, I don't think anybody like needs that.

And you know what?

You know, I'm so glad you brought that up.

I don't think you could start another comedy podcast with someone else.

Like, that would hurt me.

Oh, wow.

I think that would hurt.

All right, I'd put it in lifestyle.

Okay.

And society and culture.

Yeah, I'll put it in the arts.

You just reminded me of something i've been noticing something lately that i just find interesting and i have thoughts on but i would love to get your thoughts on is

there seems to be like a and i think it's similar to the conversation we were just having where people not even in just podcasting but in content creation in general really want to create like niches for themselves so they make themselves like an expert in something and i've noticed like a lot of people gravitate towards becoming a dating expert and they do like q a's and they like But, you know, that that person, what makes them, sometimes they're even single, which not like there's nothing wrong with being single, but how the fuck does that make you a dating expert and these people have just kind of like branded themselves there's like a few people who come to mind branded themselves as like the experts on dating and like everything they do is like advice segments and q a's and it's like well why you like what makes you qualified no what who's more of an expert on dating like these are two extremes like uh

extremely single person who hasn't had a boyfriend in let's say 10 years but is going on a lot of dates or

someone who got married off of her first date i don't know someone who's only been on a date with one person is she so successful that she's a dating expert?

I think I'm a relationship expert.

Yeah, no, and those are extremes.

And obviously, you know, it's somewhere in the middle.

But I do think if you're perpetually single, maybe you're not the dating expert.

Or

you are because you go on so many dates, but it's clearly not working.

Yeah, no, I don't know.

I just find it so interesting.

Like, so many people have just kind of like created this like.

like brand and like market for themselves as like dating and it's like well what the fuck makes you qualified no and I'm trying to think who i would take dating advice from not that i need it right now but like who right now you would i would

something you want to tell us i just would have like in the past right of course you know we at that time it was like patty stanker yeah i think you would lean towards like an older woman because you have like much more traditional like you're very much like chivalry i'm not paying for dinner yeah honestly i wouldn't take dating advice from someone in their 20s hot take yeah or i don't know yeah definitely i i wouldn't even take dating advice from me No, I would take dating advice from like someone with kids.

No, just someone who's a li, like who lives.

Sorry, I didn't mean someone with kids.

I meant like someone older.

Someone older, someone who's lived who like has wisdom.

I just find it interesting.

I think there are like eternal dating truths.

Yeah.

And people keep trying to reinvent it.

But like, I think that there are eternal truths.

It's so true.

Timeless.

Timeless.

You're right.

That is interesting.

Yeah, no, and I think it's smart.

I think like for business reasons, like they end up working with like a lot of brands who are like dating apps.

And And it just, it's, it's good to have like a thing when you're a content creator who's just sharing their life because you're competing with everyone.

But if you have like a little small niche, like I totally get it, but I just find it interesting because people do submit questions and seek out advice from this person.

It's like, well, why?

Yeah.

What makes them qualified?

Yeah.

Like, I think people seek out our advice or not advice, our thoughts on pop culture takes.

And I feel qualified to give that.

Like, I have been a fan of pop culture since I was born.

I know everything that goes on on this planet.

oh not even that but just i think more of the advice that we give is like relationship advice to an extent and not so much advice but just like sharing our experience and then saying and do with that what you will yeah but i feel like that's

it right now with your toasters like we get advice but we don't bill ourselves as like relationship experts no and we get submissions for like all different types of things like hygiene friendship yeah but like just giving our thoughts people i think come to us because they might be in a similar stage of life like newlyweds or married a few years starting to have kids.

And like, you just kind of, and if your friends aren't in that place, like, you just want, it's like chit-chat with your girlies.

I don't go to my friends' budget for like advice necessarily, but kind of like commiseration.

Yeah, of course.

Maybe that's what it is.

Like, maybe people are gravitating towards content creators who are in like a similar life stage as them.

Yeah, that's a different thing, but then I wouldn't say you're being an expert.

It's just like, it feels like a friend.

But I do feel like that's what influencers are to a lot of their fans sometimes in a really nice way where it's like we're all going through this i'm gonna do it publicly so that we like you feel seen and we're doing it together i guess a good example of somebody who's done that but i think successfully is like nick vile

like he wrote a book on like he's really like becoming like a millennial sort of patty stanger ish um but you know he went like on a dating show multiple times like i actually feel like that gives you a resume of sorts Yeah, also.

Also, he's 40.

Like, he's lived quite, quite a bit.

Yeah, and now that he's engaged, it's all good but also he just gave good advice yeah

like very rational so if you give good advice then you can you can do it yeah yeah yeah i just find it interesting but that is a good example but i i would he does give good advice he has like a whole second podcast like with advice yeah like asking or whatever yeah

So it's just like

a lot of his audience are women.

And so he's from the dating show.

So he's giving a male perspective.

That's like...

Yeah, that's his value.

That's the hook.

That's his value.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's true.

um so it's just like one of the the few things that were on my mind last night when i couldn't fall asleep i understand well what was on your mind um

a lot you know i kept thinking like should i pick up my book or now am i like now dedicating two hours to not sleeping yeah yeah yeah that's what you know what i mean but then i fell asleep i i can't remember i feel like i fell asleep with my kindle in my bed which like i never do that is so cute but i didn't even turn it on i was just like just in case i'm always sitting with my kindle in my lap like for hours before i actually like press it oh yeah unless i'm in a good book but you know it's a bad book if like you don't press it.

100%.

So did you read while you were up?

No, I had I read the whole night.

Like and then I finished my book at around like 1030 and tried to go to bed at like 1130 and it was just torture.

I'm sorry.

I hate not being able to fall asleep.

Like there are few it's like a living hell.

It's like a purgatory.

There's nothing else going on.

At some point like your phone kind of dies down.

There's nothing online like worth watching.

But you shouldn't be on your phone.

And I really wasn't.

You didn't look at it once?

No, I looked at it a few times.

You shouldn't have.

But like I was taking like 30 minute breaks in between.

Like, if 30 minutes, if you're not falling asleep.

No, but you're like counteracting all of the relaxation you're doing.

I know it's annoying, but it's literally like

a thing.

Like telling your brain, hey, bitch, I'm awake.

I did two hatch restful.

Like, I did.

That's good.

I guided meditation and I took a lavender trip through a lavender field.

Did that help?

No.

Okay, well, it wasn't your night, turning.

It wasn't my night.

Today's a new day.

No need to focus on the past.

Yay.

Where'd you get that coffee?

I made it where here with the starlucks, like things here.

Well, I grabbed a cup of ice from the vodiga.

Yeah, your people, yeah, your favorite.

Why are you like, what's with the I don't know, because I third degree because I like kind of went out of my way to get a coffee, and then like you kind of showed I wanted one, no, you wouldn't like it.

And you show up like with a coffee that looks really good, and I know you didn't go out of your way for it, no, so I was just wondering like where it came from.

It's store-bought ice with homemade coffee

in a cup from the store bought ice.

Oh, oh, oh.

They gave me the cup.

What is with the third degree?

I'd just like to know what you're up to.

Things have changed around here since I've been back.

You know, since you left?

Yeah, since I left.

And that's what happens.

You leave people and they're forced to change and grow.

Good.

It looks good.

You have a nice cup of coffee.

Yada welcome.

That's what happens.

Yada welcome.

That's what happens.

Forced you to grow.

That's what happened.

I don't see the problem.

That's what happened.

Good things are happening.

That's what happened.

Great things.

Alrighty.

What do you say?

Yeah, let's get into it because we have some more debating to do in today's story.

Oh, yes.

I'm very excited.

There's like one story.

I'm sure everyone has seen it.

Or if you haven't, you will.

That's really...

It's dividing the nation.

I was reading comments.

I wanted, I am inexperienced.

It's about motherhood.

So, like.

It's later in the show.

It's the story about like Jesse James Decker's sister.

Which is just like an added layer on the plane with the population.

Because it's not about Jesse James James, it's about this MLB player's wife.

Yeah, it depends what publication you're reading.

People magazine, Jesse James Decker's sister.

New York Post, MLB, Blue Jays Picture's wife,

on the plane with her kids, and what happened next.

And it's ensuing a lot of passionate responses from people.

And I think I'm excited to have this conversation with you.

Me too.

So without further ado, do it do.

Here are the fast five stories that you did do need to know.

That is true.

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We didn't even plan this, but the whole episode is really about sleep.

Why?

Because of your whole

and then the chips.

Is there a sponsors?

No.

I'm just saying, like, I thought that was a segue.

I thought, like, our whole intro segment was like a segue about better sleep.

If only we like knew and like acted like that, like, wasn't, you know.

It wouldn't have been as good.

It's organic, yeah.

And now, you know, like, we prioritize sleep, and these are two sleep products that we love.

I thought we had a story.

Like, uh, no, about sleepiness.

Maybe we can make something about sleep, but I actually am moving the stories around, so I'm going to talk, we're going to talk about the plane story.

Oh, okay.

Right?

Um, nothing else is like that crazy.

So, Jesse James Decker reveals her pregnant sister cried as she was made to clean her kids' mess on a flight.

So this whole story started a few days ago when Anthony Bass, who is an MLB player, posted a tweet.

It's a picture of his two kids.

They're five and two.

He said, the flight attendant at United just made my 22-week pregnant wife traveling with a five-year-old and two-year-old get on her hands and knees to pick up the popcorn mess by my youngest daughter.

Are you kidding me?

And then people started responding like a lot of the comments are like, clean up after your kids.

Right.

Then Jesse also posted an Instagram story saying, My sister Sidney Ray Bass just texted me from her flight on United.

As you know, she is five months pregnant, high risk, and also traveling alone with her two small children.

Blair accidentally spilled some popcorn in the aisle, and the flight attendant came up to Sydney with a trash bag and a wet wipe, telling her the captain wants Sydney to clean up every drop.

My poor sister is on her hands and knees crying in the aisle, completely humiliated and exhausted with her children while everyone else watched.

Way to go, United.

And then she also said, if popcorn is a hazard, why are they giving it on planes, y'all?

This is just because apparently the flight attendant told Sydney that the popcorn in the aisle would be a hazard.

Also, if it's anyone needs to know, the

United, the flight gave the popcorn to the kids.

Yeah, they didn't bring their own popcorn.

So there's so many different layers here.

And of course, I do defer to you.

And that's why I sent the story in our family chat.

Because at first, I was like, you know, yeah, like, clean up after your kid.

Like,

yeah.

But then I thought about it more.

Um, and this is so, like, not the point, but I do not really understand why, like, a woman of means, like your husband plays in the MLB, like, doesn't have a nanny.

And not that I'm saying everyone should have a nanny, but it's like you're so worried about your pregnant wife traveling with two kids.

Like, why don't you pay someone to fly with her, husband?

That was just an additional thought I had, not my core argument.

No, and the only reason we're ever hearing about this story is because he's in the MLB and he tweeted about it.

But this could be any

person.

And I think a lot of people were turned off by his tweet tweet because it's like, all right, well, you play in the MLB, like you have extraordinary means.

Like, why is your high-risk pregnant wife flying alone without you with two kids?

Like, maybe someone should help her.

Like,

I guess, but that didn't even occur to me.

Like, I think it's nice.

She's flying with the two kids.

She's like doing it all.

And

I think it...

A lot of people have the question, like, who cleans up the plane?

Yeah.

And it was my understanding that a cleaning crew comes in between each flight and cleans up the plane, you know, a little vacuum.

I've seen them.

They, they do, and they do a great job.

A little vacuum at a bare minimum.

Yeah, it's not, you know, five stars, but they get the plane clean.

Right.

They rearrange it, they wipe some things down.

Yeah, I think, I would assume they wipe down all the surfaces, like the tray tables.

They vacuum the floor because everyone, adults, too.

I don't think they wipe down every tray table, especially since they couldn't handle a couple pieces of popcorn.

Okay.

Everybody leaves a mess.

Adults too.

Right.

So, yes, there is a cleaning crew.

Although I did see, and I don't know if this is verified at all.

I haven't seen what you're about to say anywhere.

Okay, well, I did see it, but it was just in a comment, so I don't don't know if it's true.

That this was a

United, like one of those really small flights, like United actually doesn't operate.

It always says like operated by Sky West, you know, or Republic Airways.

And those really small regional flights actually don't have cleaning crews come on.

The flight attendants clean the flight.

Okay.

I don't know if that's true.

Here's a picture of the plane seats.

It's a two

on one side.

Looks like a regular plane.

Two, no, two on one side is like that really small regional plane.

It's usually three.

Yeah, no, but like not really small.

Not really small.

Okay.

Whatever.

I think it's irrelevant.

You're paying hundreds of dollars for a seat on a plane.

It is irrelevant.

I thought this time you're paying for all of the services, including like entering on a clean plane and having a plane cleaned after you.

The idea, it's not like she vomited in the middle of the aisle and it's the ambulance.

It's a couple pieces of popcorn.

So this woman is traveling.

She's pregnant.

She has two kids.

Even if she was just pregnant, make her get down on her hands and knees.

What happened to decency?

It used to be if someone's pregnant, and I haven't even seen so much like pregnancy disrespect, but like you give up their seat for them.

You then make them get on their hands and knees and start picking up pieces of popcorn, either leave the popcorn there or help her.

Right.

And I don't know what the laws in the sky are.

Like, and it's entirely possible.

Like, yeah, it was her responsibility to clean up after her kids.

But to me, like, if you're a half-decent fucking human being, oh, and you're a flight attendant, like, you just help the pregnant lady who's traveling.

Like, maybe, maybe it's not in your job description.

I don't know what the bylaws of United, maybe it's not your responsibility to clean up after this kid.

No, I don't think it's the flight attendant's responsibility.

So even if if it's not, but you're like a decent person, you just fucking help.

Right.

Or like you're, okay, so the popcorn's in the aisle.

It's a hazard.

Kick it to the side with your shoe.

Yeah, like, I don't know.

It's not, again, it's not like the kid had diarrhea.

And it's like they're treating this plane like it's the Louvre and it's just, it's a fucking plane and people are disgusting on planes.

And it's a kid who's two years old.

You gave her popcorn and she drops them on the floor.

What did you expect, first of all?

Right.

Yeah.

And I think, you know, being dramatic and saying the captain says it's a hazard.

Well, if it's such a big safety hazard you know a flight attendant's number one priority and responsibility is safety they always say that in the little message before you take off so if it's really such a big deal then it actually it would land on you yeah

i just feel like a lot of people are debating like well who's responsible and it's like well maybe it's not who's responsible because i don't know who's responsible it's just like who could help who has a heart yeah like just help this woman no it's like the same way when you get on a plane if you're a pregnant woman traveling with two kids and you need help putting your bags up like people come and they help you yep and sure it's your responsibility to be able to handle your kids back.

Sure, but like we're human beings.

And like sometimes you can just like

do something helpful and take the load of reason other than take the load off of someone, especially like when it's a pregnant mother.

No, totally.

Like we really lost sight.

We did.

I think the reason why people lost sight, and this is what I was trying to say before, is because like the tweet came from somebody like in a position of wealth and power.

So like nobody's inclined to feel bad.

Because like there were many things that like this person could have done to avoid a situation like this that other people can't do.

So I think if this had just been like a regular person saying this story, not like a famous wealthy person.

I don't think they're like that famous.

No, but they have means.

Okay.

And you play in the MLB.

Like you, you're fine.

Really?

Yeah.

I don't know.

I've never like.

Let's see his contract.

He signed a two-year $5 million contract with the Marlins.

Yeah, like just.

Okay.

Just like, hire some help for your wife.

But so I think that's why people are having the current debate that they're having.

It's actually not the comments.

Like, I was reading the comments from Twitter and also like some news publications posted on Instagram.

So I was reading on the comments and all the comments were like, clean up after your kids.

It's not our problem to clean.

And it's like.

It takes a village to raise a child.

Like to get up, make a pregnant woman get on her hands and knees to pick up some pieces of popcorn.

Again, like it's popcorn.

Yeah, we'd be having a different conversation if the kid like crapped on the floor.

Like that's, sorry, mom, that's on you.

Like

that is, that is disturbing to the entire plane and the whole environment.

And like, yeah, that's a problem.

But it's like they went out of their way to like torture this woman because the popcorn probably wasn't bothering anyone.

It didn't smell, it's not a fucking hazard.

Let's be real.

Okay.

So they went out of their way to like humiliate this person.

Yeah.

And I was thinking, you know,

not that it's on anyone else, but like, why didn't anyone around, like, if I saw a pregnant woman on her hands and knees, like, I would get up and help her, like as a passenger.

Yeah.

And nobody did.

Yeah.

I mean, sometimes you don't know what's going on.

People have their headphones on.

That's true.

You're not paying attention.

Please, people, like, watch people get murdered and they film it.

Like, they're going to start getting up to help clean up the popcorn.

Yeah, yeah, that's true.

Those facts, yeah.

So, I don't know.

I think it's a little, you know, a little bit of a power trip.

It is a little bit of a power trip to, like, stand over and watch.

It's like,

let's just call this pit of space.

This woman's a fucking bitch.

Like,

she's a bitch.

Maybe she didn't have to help, but she should have.

And I don't think you get into flight attending if you're not a people person.

And this woman's clearly, like, a bitch.

Yeah.

Also, I'm not sure that the flight attendant was a woman.

Oh.

Actually, that's like kind of a really good point.

I feel like a woman wouldn't do this.

Yeah, might have more.

They just kept saying do they not use pronouns when...

No, the flight attendant, the flight attendant, the flight attendant.

Oh, that's interesting.

Yeah.

Does it change the story?

No.

No, but I would like to know.

I'm just curious now.

I don't know what makes it worse or better, if it's a man or a woman.

I guess if it's a man, it makes it worse.

Yeah.

No, but then if it's like a woman, it means like from your, you're being betrayed by your own gender.

No, but like men should help women.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like if a female flight attendant didn't help put the bag up, I wouldn't be as like, and it was just like watching as opposed to a male

not helping.

I'd be like, help.

No, that's a really good point.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

There's so many layers.

There's, yeah, no, there's a lot of like facts people want to know.

They're like, where did the popcorn come from?

How old was the kid?

How far along is she?

Like, what was she wearing?

Right.

No, it's, could you tell she was pregnant?

You know, I was thinking that too.

I feel like you could.

She's 22.

22 and she's like a small girl.

And

like, if you see her like Instagram, she's popping.

Visibly pregnant.

Got it.

Yeah.

She's popping.

Hmm.

It's a very interesting story.

And

I was reading a lot of people's takes because honestly, I was like, and I called Brian.

I was like, you're like the expert.

Cause I was so curious.

I'm like, what is the protocol here?

Cause like, who's works, like, whose job description is it?

Honestly, is it on, you know, the passengers to tidy up before they leave?

Like, I don't know.

It's like, is it how, like, it's like a hotel.

It's not on you to clean up.

Like, you know, that's a service you're paying for.

So Brian, like, hadn't heard really that much about it.

And people have been asking him to make a video.

And he's like, I need to do my, like, I need to, he didn't want to say that.

Right, he needs to answer these questions.

Yeah, yeah.

So he needed to research before, but I really want him to speak on it because he's like, he's an expert, but he's also a parent.

I feel like he would have a really unique perspective, not even unique, a well-rounded perspective.

Yeah.

But, like, whose job is it in that scenario?

I don't know.

I don't know.

And I think, I don't know that it's anyone's responsibility.

And even the person who's, if she's responsible to clean after her kids, like, you can still help, even though it's not technically your responsibility.

I definitely feel like, in terms of flight attendant culture, that I've kind of just been an observer of in the last couple of years, I know, like, the priority of being flight attendant is you're there for the safety.

There's also an element of service.

And I do also, I feel like the service element has become smaller and smaller in the sense that like, I'm afraid to ask for a drink.

Like when they come over with the card, they just like they shove it in your face like they're doing you a favor.

It's like, well, I didn't ask you.

People are here to ask me.

If you're like falling asleep and like you don't want to miss it, you're like, wake me up.

It's my one chance.

It's like when you think of how far we've come from like the flight attendants of Pan Am to the flight attendants of today, where it's like, you're really lucky to get a drink and like you get like a you really you don't even get a smile like you just get like a knowing you're paying hundreds of dollars for this no no you're paying thousands like flight prices are so crazy a given the current economy and b just they've gone up yeah like you're lucky to get out of this country for under 500 like it's in i mean out of the country out of the state for under 500 like it's the prices have gone up and every element of service like every small luxury that you like it's just gone yeah it's gone yeah but i i thought that the cleaning crews were still there, especially because of COVID.

Because it's like a basic fundamental plane.

And because of COVID.

Yeah.

You're not cleaning your planes.

Right, right, right.

Just make me call you CDC.

Tis Tisk.

You had a mask mandate for over a year, but you don't clean your plane.

It's a good point.

So I'm

just

perplexed.

That's all I'll say.

Yeah, sound off in the comments.

Especially because, no, a lot of our listeners are flight attendants.

Flight attendants and mamas.

Right, right, right.

And so, what do you think?

But I'm thinking about it like sometimes at a restaurant with Harry and he throws food on the floor i was thinking of restaurants too i he throws food on the floor and like i'm gonna get to pick it up because like i i feel bad and someone will like come and even sometimes it's like the waiter waitress and they'll pick it up

before i get to it and it's so nice and i'm like oh my gosh thank you so much and Even if they didn't do that, like I would eventually, I'm not going to go after every crumb, but like, you know, maybe at the end, I'll go and get everything.

I've seen Olivia do that.

But if someone like came over with a bag and a tissue and like stood there on my hands and knees and like told me to do it now in front of a restaurant full of people like that would be humiliating yeah it would be humiliating it it's wrong yeah i i think i i'm very much like yeah like you're responsible for your kids for sure but like it's wrong it's there's no reason to humiliate someone especially someone who's just doing their best right and i don't know i just feel like we all just could help like this we can also help people you know right just because it's not your responsibility doesn't mean you can't help yeah it's not your like like you said it's not your job to help someone with their bags even if helping just means scooting it to the side with your foot and saying, Captain, it's out of the aisle.

Yeah, like, I don't know.

I'd love to hear from the flight attendant.

Yeah.

Because, again, it's important to note, like, we are getting the family's side of it.

Everyone's perspective is different.

Right.

So it's entirely possible.

Like, the flight attendant.

Buckets and buckets of popcorn.

It was rising

in the aisle and people couldn't walk through.

So

maybe the flight attendant has like a totally different perspective and side of the story.

Yeah.

Like maybe they were fucking rude.

You know what I mean?

Like, you never know.

Maybe they were terrible passengers.

I'm not saying that they were.

Like maybe she didn't help for a reason, you know?

Well, she was asking for it.

No, not that she was asking for it.

But like the kids, the two-year-old was asking for it.

Exactly.

Like, maybe these people had been rude and terrible and yelled.

And by people, you really just mean the mom.

The mom, because the kids are kids.

And I'm not saying, by the way, she probably wasn't.

I'm just saying we only are getting one half of the story because everyone's version of their truth is their truth.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I would like to see the flight attendant come forward.

I would absolutely love a sit down.

She's welcome on the toast.

Or he.

Or he.

Okay, well, that's the big debate of the day.

Yeah, no.

And please, I would like to hear.

I'm not a mom.

So again, like I, but I have traveled with a child and it's fucking hell on.

It's so hard.

If anybody can, like, help you not make your time harder.

Like, that's what you should be doing.

Yeah.

It's, I have so much respect.

Like, just moms need more respect and more help and sympathy.

Yeah.

Not on their hands and knees pregnant.

Even if she wasn't pregnant and she was just a mom with two kids.

It would be better.

Help.

It would be better.

It would be better.

But even if she was just pregnant and didn't have the two kids.

About the pregnant thing makes it probably the worst part of it because to make someone physically who's when you're pregnant, you're not at your physical

flexibility, best flexibility.

Say you're pregnant and you're not traveling with kids and you make a mess.

And it's, you're an adult.

It's your mess to clean up.

I still think someone should help.

Like, you're pregnant, you can't bend.

Yeah.

Like her getting on her knees.

And I'm not saying that's right, but I'm just saying that's what the comments would say.

Clean up after yourself, pregnant once.

Right.

No, I don't know.

So the whole thing just confounds it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And makes it just bad.

Just bad.

Not a good look.

I wonder how United will.

I don't know.

They're not like getting that much backlash because a lot of people are being like, clean up after yourself.

Or agree.

Yeah.

So that's that on that.

Interesting.

Are we ready for our next story?

Another

business that's being blasted by Tom Sandoval.

Yes.

Tom Sandoval blasts the wellness resort Mirival for outing his stay.

So we reported yesterday that Raquel checked into a mental health facility.

Claudia said she thought it was Mirival, which is just like a spa retreat in Arizona.

Right.

And then

some drama went down between Tom and Mirival.

So he claimed that Mirival, Arizona, fed into negativity and spectacle in his life by posting an Instagram photo with a caption that seemingly referenced his affair drama.

They posted a picture of their bar, and the caption is, you know, that it's our time.

These are the best days of our life.

So it's like, that's the theme song from Vanderpump Rules.

And they posted that while he was staying at their facility.

Right.

He said, I'm beyond disappointed in, and I guess it was rumored that he was staying there.

Like they were, you know, speculation.

In the internet chatter.

Yeah.

I'm beyond disappointed in Marival and their decision to pose to their Instagram account this weekend.

this weekend.

Are you okay?

No, he's not okay.

He said pose to their Instagram.

No, he's not the brave.

Sorry, the transcriptionist did.

I'm reading his words.

I'm beyond disappointed in Marival at Marival and their decision to post their Instagram account this past weekend, alluding to me staying there this week.

They claim to be a refuge for wellness and betterment, but that is obviously false.

They'd rather feed into the negativity and spectacle that has engulfed my life.

In a continuous effort to be healthy and work on myself, I planned a trip to go there completely alone to try and find some peace.

Marival clearly isn't the place for that.

Special shout out to the general manager who refuses to take any responsibility for the actions of his team, even though he considered the post, quote, in poor taste.

Regardless of where you stand in all this, we all deserve the chance to work to be better.

I don't know that you're working at Mirabal.

Yeah, no, no.

The thing is, like, this is just a bad look for Mirabal.

Like,

it's so petty.

It's not only petty.

Like, he's a paying customer.

Like, you

have a right to privacy, no matter who you are.

And this is, like, actually really tacky.

And like, I don't care because, like, I hate Tom Sandoval, but, like, it's not, it's not, he's not wrong.

No, he's not wrong.

I I don't think it bodes well for like other celebrities who would want to go there and then it's like, oh, they'll blast it.

And also, it's not like it was front page news that he was staying there.

This was sort of like internet chatter.

So it's like you're posting to your Instagram.

Like, it's not like the whole world is talking about Tom Sandoval at Marival.

I had no idea he was there and I'm pretty clued in.

Yeah.

So like you're what, like posting.

Instagram rumors to your account and you are like this high-end wellness brand and you're joining in on an internet pylon at a time when like nobody needed to hear from you.

You know, when it's like somebody went to your facility to seek refuge from an internet pylon and your brand then decides to join in on that pylon.

Like it is, this is like really tacky actually.

Yeah, I think it looks really bad for them and I think even people who are not who are not team Sandaval and you know you could never confuse Turdy and I as being anything other than Team Ariana.

Yeah, even before this,

like we wouldn't just never find ourselves like defending Sandival and I'm not.

But like

if I'm a celebrity choosing between between two wellness retreats, I'm certainly not going to Marival knowing that like my privacy might be compromised.

Yeah, it's really tacky.

And again, I'm a celebrity, like a lay person, anyone.

It's like a wellness, so it's not, this isn't a mental health facility, because if it was, there are like HIPAA and there are these regulations in place so that things like this don't happen, which just further proves that Raquel is like actually not even close to being at any sort of like actual mental health facility.

She's going to, you know.

So they're both at Marival?

That's what I was confused about as well.

He loves the story.

But he said he he went alone.

And he's back already, I think.

And she just went.

So maybe he, like, went, he said, oh, this was really good for my mental health.

And then she went.

And then highly recommend.

And then her rep lied and said she was always going.

Right.

And called it a mental health facility, which we speculated yesterday and now we know like that is extremely misleading.

It's misleading, but not a lie.

Like a mental health facility could be a lot of things.

It could be your house.

Yeah.

No, when I think of mental health facility, like I do think of like a sterile kind of

like a psychological, I don't know what they, what the right word is for it these days.

Like what?

Like a like a psychiatric treatment facility.

Like a hospital.

Yeah.

She didn't go to a hospital.

That's what.

Even if she didn't go to Marival, she didn't check herself into it.

That's what it sounds like when you say a mental health facility, honestly.

Right, but when you break down the words mental health facility, it can be anything.

Yeah, of course.

So it's a...

It's a manipulation of language.

Yes.

Which is what I guess what a good publicist would do.

Right.

But we're here to break it down.

Yeah.

So, in regards to this Miraval thing, like, I actually do agree with Sandoval, which is not something I thought I would ever say.

And, like, it just made it's really like, it's tacky.

And it's just illusory because it's like you dunked when, like, no, there was no game being played.

Like, no one even knew he was at Miraval.

Like, no one was talking about you.

And now we're talking about you in a negative light, considering what your brand is.

Like, if you're, if this was,

I don't know, Secrets Resort and Tom and Aari and Raquel were were rumored to be there.

Actually, would it be like an amazing partnership?

Continue.

Right.

And they were like, they proposed to the sexy bar.

You know that.

It would be like, okay, it's on brand.

Yeah, no.

But to like exploit where someone's like really trying to use your facility for its like wellness elements.

No, and also like you, Marival tries to position themselves as a wellness.

Right.

That's how they brand themselves as like this kind of like

retreaty.

It's not like a hotel or really or spa.

It's this, if they went there on real hospitals, like you do sound baths and like trauma treatment.

Like, it's, it's, you know, very guru.

Woo-woo.

Yeah, woo-woo-woo-woo.

Yeah.

Agreed.

So that's an L for them.

It's not a win for Sandoval by any means, but

an L for them.

Yeah.

Our next story is a little more pump news because Ariana Maddox is single and having fun, including canodling at Coachella after her split from Tom.

The Vanderpump rule star Ariana was spotted kissing a new man over the weekend at Coachella, a source tells people, all just for fun.

A source said, Ariana just got out of a long relationship and isn't jumping into anything serious.

What you're seeing is a woman who is single and having fun.

She was featured on an Instagram story spending time with a fitness instructor, Daniel Way.

He also tagged Ariana in a selfie of the two of them waiting for Frank Ocean's headlining performance.

Then TMZ shared a video of the pair kissing during the headliner show.

Yeah, I saw that on TikTok.

It was like so cute.

He's very handsome.

I'm sure this is not like the, you know, end-all-be-all love of her life, but like you'd love to see her out here having some fun.

And I also feel, like, tell me if you feel this call.

You know, obviously, ending a nine-year relationship is probably like one of the hardest things that you can do.

Um,

and takes a really long time to get over that person.

But when the entire world, like, every day is like hating on the guy who like broke your heart and like makes

like, doesn't it make it easier for you to get over him?

Like, I feel like she's probably like really over Tom.

I feel like also when the bridge is so burned to a crisp, there's no well, maybe he'll change like it's so crystal clear what happened and that there's no going back like you can only go forward i don't think she needs to you could spend time i think the probably the hardest thing for her is like

the

the habitual nature of their relationship like the how living together living together him being you know her best friend and co-workers and all of those things they were doing everything together.

So I think that part's harder, but I think the romantic piece,

that's probably the easiest part to move on from.

Right.

Especially because she probably wakes up every day and like goes to her phone and there's just like memes and shit being written about her man that like make him look so bad and stupid and ugly.

Like I don't find I can't I just have a hard time believing she she could be like longing for him, you know?

No, it's harder to imagine Raquel still being attracted to him than it is to imagine Ariana moving on.

You know what?

It's actually not hard for me to imagine Raquel being attracted to him because they literally have nobody else.

Like they're on this island together that they created.

Like if you're not gonna love him, like who the fuck are you gonna talk to?

Yeah.

Well, she really still has, I would hope, like, her friend, like, her home friends.

Real friends, and you know, they say, We know the real Raquel.

Yeah, no, for sure, for sure.

But in terms of this group and people who really understand what's going on, like, there's literally one person she can talk to, you know?

Yeah.

And he's the worst.

Oh, my God.

Yeah.

So glad I'm not Raquel.

So, anyways, that's really cute.

I don't think it's too soon.

I think she could do whatever the fuck she did.

No, I don't think it's too soon.

No, I was saying some.

Yeah, I think some people were saying that.

People are the worst.

Yeah.

It's literally not too soon.

No, and it's certainly not too soon for like a dance floor makeout at a festival.

Right.

It's not like, you know, a romantic getaway.

Right.

Right.

And even if it was, I think that's fine too.

But like, you can have in your

breakup era a dance floor makeout.

It's really not a big deal.

No.

Look at Sean and Camilla.

Right.

Like, it's just not that serious sometimes.

And it's Coachella.

Like, you know, it's Coachelli, like, whatever.

It's Coachella.

The vibes are vibing.

Right.

That's so us.

It's kind of like Vegas.

Like, it doesn't count.

what happens at Coachelli ends up on TMZ.

Right, right.

How exciting for her.

Like she's so fucking famous now.

Yeah.

And she was kind of like for always just like a kind of beta cast member.

She never really threw her hat in the ring that deeply.

Yeah.

She was always involved in stuff like because of Tom.

And she kind of gets to come out on the other side of this, like the biggest star on the show.

Everyone is obsessed with her and she's a full-blown celebrity.

Honestly, they did her a favor, to be honest.

Well, they definitely did her a favor.

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That was so men's offer.

That was so good.

Really?

You really could have headlined Coachella, unlike Frank Ocean.

Unlike Frank Ocean, who jolted Coachella Festival with an aimless WTF headlining set.

In other words, his set was not good.

People are so mad.

Yeah, so news has been like trickling out about this.

So first we have a recap of the set and what was seen and then some explanation from Variety.

So, Sunday Night's Coachella headlining performance by the enigmatic RB star Frank Ocean was unquestionably the most highly anticipated set of the festival.

The singer has not performed live in nearly six years, and he was set to headline the fest in 2020 before the pandemic, and then again last year before he postponed it to 2023.

So, there were rumors of new music coming out, who he was going to potentially bring on stage, old bandmates, etc.

And what they got was not that.

It was very short.

None of this came to pass.

In fact, his set during which which he and his musicians were intentionally obscured by a cadre of people walking in a circle around them, only seen on video projected on custom screens even more massive than those usually flanking Coachella's main stage.

It was messy, loose, and a near disaster that will likely go down as one of the most divisive in Coachella history, with flashes of brilliance that only made for a frustrating final outcome, that of disappointment and palpable audience.

What the fuckness?

Right, I saw a video when he ended the show.

He was just basically like, oh, I'm being told we're at curfew, so show's over.

Bye.

He started the set a full 57 minutes after it's advertised start time, which eats into curfew time for the venue.

So then that cuts off minutes on the tail end.

The first five minutes were comprised of people silently walking in a circle, leading people to wonder if he was even going to appear at all.

Then his voice came through and he sounded really good, but it was impossible to see him behind the wall of walking people.

This scavenger hunt for the headliner would continue throughout the set.

Even after the wall of people left, he and his band were too far back on the stage, too obscured by the screens.

There was just a small opening for the actual stage, and too poorly lit from the lack of stage lights for anyone but the most perfectly placed

audience members to get more than just a cursory glance of the musicians.

There were a lot of pauses, a lot of what are we doing next?

I saw a bunch of clips.

I saw literally his music playing like on an ox chord and him just standing there.

Like I didn't even, he wasn't even singing.

Yeah.

So here's what

they said happened.

Okay.

Why was it such a mess?

So he was supposed to apparently have an ice ring on the stage and they were rehearsing it like that for weeks and the days leading up to the festival.

And then I think on Sunday, they had to change

it.

They got rid of it.

Because that wall of people walking around him were meant to be ice caters.

But they just turned into walls.

They just transferred the choreography from ice to not ice.

Yeah, it was supposed to be an elaborate stage production involving an ice rink and a battery of skaters.

It was constructed, rehearsed for several days and ready to go, but abruptly called off on Sunday afternoon after the festival was already underway.

It was not,

why it was changed, there's two explanations.

Citing sources, the festival owl, which I guess is like in festival insiders, said Frank decided at the last minute that he no longer wanted it all.

All the people walking around him at the start of the performance were actually ice skaters, had been practicing for weeks, and were supposed to be skating.

Coachella had to deconstruct the approved stage that had been planned and signed off on for months, melt the entire ice rink, and then set it up how Frank decided today with no warning, which is what you ended up seeing and caused for the hour-long delay.

This all happened when doors had already opened on Sunday and people were securing their spots to see him.

If the last-minute changes weren't made, he wouldn't have performed at all, which would have left the festival without a closing headliner.

So, like that, that would have been crazy.

In that situation, Coachella had no choice but to let him go out.

Like, you know, what would have happened, honestly?

Like,

I honestly feel like Justin Bieber, he was there because he's like the biggest Frank Goshing fan.

I feel like they, he was probably the biggest celebrity who was there.

They literally would have had to put a back door deal, like, get on stage, we will pay you, whatever, just do a show.

What would they have done?

I don't know what, I think they would have, like,

I don't know what they would have done.

I think it just would have been a big, epic fail.

Yeah.

And I mean, people might want to get like refunds.

There might, maybe there would be like a case for like a class action lawsuit.

For sure.

But I don't think Justin Bieber is the kind of singer who can just get on stage and start singing for two hours.

The thing with the, but then another report from TMZ Embroling still cite a source saying that production on his performance was adjusted at the last minute to account for an ankle injury the singer sustained during on-site rehearsals in the week leading up to the festival.

So I have so many thoughts.

The first thing is about the curfew is: I read a report,

Coachella, Golden Voice, the company that owns it, paid $200,000 to like the Palm Springs Council for their violations this weekend.

Like, it's just a part, it's a cost that they incur going past curfew.

It's not the biggest deal.

If he had gone, you get charged, I think, like every 10 minutes, is like whatever.

They would have paid it.

Like, I don't think it was that big of a deal.

He wanted to leave.

I want to say, like, this is so beyond unacceptable.

And when you think about people who have headlined Coachella in years past and like how much they Beyonce, like how much they gave Harry Styles last year, like,

it's it's, it's like, it's definitely embarrassing for Frank Ocean.

It just makes him look so bad.

Like, when you compare, like, literally, seriously, Beyonce, like it was probably one of, like, the greatest performances of all time.

Like, for the same event, they probably got paid a similar amount.

And, like, that's what you put together.

And let's say this ankle thing is true.

Like, can you, could you literally ever see like a small ankle injury getting in Beyonce's way?

Like, that's just what, and it sucks, but like, that's what these performers do.

Like, they work through tough things.

When you saw Lady Gaga's documentary, her chronic pain, Lady Gaga's Coachella performance, I think she was dealing with her chronic pain.

Like, that's just, I don't know, it's, I don't know, like, the show must go on.

Yeah.

Also, I understand not wanting to be on an ice rink with an ankle injury.

Of course.

But there are other ways to recalibrate the performance.

One, and this doesn't explain why you're standing like backstage, basically, where no one can see you and hiding.

Like, be out in front, have a spotlight on you, and have the ice skaters going off behind you.

Also, Frank Goshen is known for his voice.

He doesn't have to do all the dramas.

You know, like he can still put on a sick performance.

It's not like he's, you know, one of these like pop stars who, it's all about the theatrics.

Right.

And without those things, you're kind of left with what.

Right.

People are there to hear him sing.

So it's kind of like a Dell in Vegas.

Like, just sing.

Right.

You don't need the pyrotechnics and the dancers.

Like, and it's nice because it's Coachella.

And so, yeah, let them do it in the back.

I don't know.

I can imagine if I was like a really big Frank Ocean fan.

Like, I, I, honestly, I don't think I know more than one Frank Ocean song.

So like, I, I'm just trying to get into the headspace.

Like, if I, no, if I was a fan of anyone and they were Sunday night at Coachella, which is the biggest night, but also the worst night because it means that you have to come home Monday and you can't come home Sunday and like you wait the whole weekend for that one person.

No, and there's so much of money and time and energy and resources spent to get to Coachella.

Yeah, no people camp there.

If your person is Sunday night and like you're making a trip to this festival because like that's your person.

And it's this disappointing.

Like,

oh my God, I don't think I could continue being a fan of that person.

Like I would be so annoyed.

Yeah.

And the interesting thing about Coachella is that everyone forgets, but there's actually two weekends.

There's another one this weekend.

So I don't know what that means for Frank Ocean's performance.

Do you think it'll be redemptive or he won't perform at all?

I don't know.

I get the vibe.

Like, he doesn't care.

Yeah.

But if he does, like, it would be redemptive.

It has to be.

He can't do this again.

Right.

The only other thing that I saw was, like, again, Justin Bieber is like a really big Frank Ocean fan, and he posted that it was like incredible, like, just kind of like defending.

Maybe some of his fans feel that way.

It's like, maybe if you saw taylor and it wasn't like

lights camera action but it was you're watching your girl and you love her and you liked it yeah maybe it would be enough for you maybe

that's a really good point

yeah this was just like so shocking because i feel like the coachella headliners like it's Coachella like so has it together like it's always it's never the music that's the problem right it's always like amazing yeah I think the stars of the weekend were black pink actually that's what I heard I heard that their performance was amazing I'm sure it was They are so amazing.

They're so cute.

That's something I would have liked to see.

Yeah.

So, win for Black Pink.

Yeah.

Are you ready for a fifth and final story?

Like, kind of some shocking news.

Yellowstone is set to end after the rest of season five airs.

Okay, but this isn't like an official announcement, right?

No.

It's like more sources, but it's like, we're getting there.

Multiple sources have confirmed to the post that Yellowstone is set to end after the second half of season five.

We just got on board.

Right now, it's not known when the show will air again.

In fact, it's not known when it will even film.

The show, as we have talked about, had been hit by claims that Kevin Costner, who's the star of the show, won't return amid a dispute with creator Taylor Sheridan.

It's the same as with any showrunner and a big star.

There's respect, but there's friction.

So.

It's true.

I just want to say, like, I don't see a time in which I would ever forgive Kevin Costner, honestly.

Yeah, but like, when we first were talking about this, it was like there was going to be a show and Kevin Costner was going to leave at some point.

Would you rather them continue Yellowstone without John Dutton or end the show with him?

I would like them to continue it.

Not forever.

Yeah.

But isn't that just like the OC without Marissa, spoiler alert?

No, but isn't that also the point of Yellowstone?

It's like a succession thing.

Yeah.

So like maybe honestly, like one season without him, like what happens after?

Like how do, and then, you know, there's a resolution and then we know that that's how Yellowstone will go on for the next 50 years.

But the whole point of the show is like, the whole time it's been with like, which kid is it?

Yeah.

That's a good point.

So I actually do think we can get one or two seasons without him but i what yes you're right like going on forever without like that's terrible yeah and i hate that i hate that too but like it's like succession spoiler alert

you know we are now in the final season and we are now seeing what happens in the succession yeah you know are we even seeing

hopefully we will do you see anything on sunday yes about who's succeeding yes you have an answer

you can spoil it i don't give a shit um

kind of you know like yeah, because everything's

so they found a piece of paper

in his

safe that said, it's Kendall, amongst a bunch of other wishes.

Like, he wanted to leave Colin a watch.

But, and it was actually, it was a very smart thing they did.

His name was underlined.

And it also kind of looks like his name was crossed out.

Like, they can't tell.

Honestly, by looking at it, like, Logan's not the type of guy to just cross something out.

Like, he would burn it to the ground.

He wouldn't put it back in his safe.

It looked like it was underlined.

So they needed they had a board thing that day this actually sounds good so for the interim position they all agreed to do kendall and roman and like shiv got like pushed out because it's like well to push all three of us like you have actually like never really fucking worked for the company like you have no experience like roman and i both do we're both currently like coos or whatever And it would just look like we're trying to be like family all in the company.

Like you need to take a step back.

And she was like shook because she's like totally getting pushed out.

Oh, and there's like a big thing that happened.

Can I tell you?

You know what?

I think I'll watch.

It sounds good.

So she got, she got kicked out okay good yeah like she is they said you're like literally not qualified no not even when they none of them really are tried to get shiv to work for the company like a season or two ago because logan had decided to favor her and wanted right and it didn't go over well right so um in order to make it look bad to like the shareholders they're like we can't all three like that looks so thirsty and and they were all saying like they'll poke holes with shiv like she is not and she like actively rails against the company right she's not the right person for it.

I mean, Kendall is obviously odd choice, too, because he was so publicly against his dad, but he has this piece of paper.

Right.

So because he has the paper, it's like his father's dying wish.

And then Roman is honestly, Roman's been with the company ride or die recently.

Recently.

But no, I think Kendall, up until the show started, he was always working for the company like in his whole life.

He was always supposed to be the next.

Yeah.

Like he's supposed to be.

I just don't know if this piece of paper is like outdated because at one point it was definitely true.

That's funny.

Yeah, it was good.

That's so succession.

Like no answer.

Yes, answer with nothing.

Yeah, but that's better than what I thought it was going to be, which was just more dialogue.

No, they actually had a board meeting.

They had a piece of paper.

But it's an interim position.

Yeah.

But everybody knows, like, in order to get to the full-time position, like, you got to get to the interim.

Yeah.

So, like, Shiv is quaking.

Oh, I love that for her.

Yeah, I kind of, like, hate her.

Yeah, me too.

Who do you hate more?

Logan, Kendall or Shiv?

Shiv.

Yeah.

Is that like...

A hot term.

No, I just, I just hate Kendall.

I mean, at one point in time, I definitely hated Kendall more.

Yeah.

I don't know.

Kendall's like, it's kind of wrong to marry.

Yeah, because I

wanna still has my heart.

Do you know I read something?

When did you watch the first episode of Succession?

Me

a year ago or two years.

Did you know that in the first episode, and they never bring it up again, Roman has a wife and a son or a child, maybe a daughter?

No.

Yeah.

And then it's just like a plot hole.

It's either a plot hole or maybe it's like not.

It's like, that's what the rich do, you know?

Oh.

Richie's gonna rich.

Yeah.

But like, he has a full-ass child.

Like, so does Kendall.

Kendall is too, but, like, they've been in and out.

Yeah, yeah.

That's part of his.

He doesn't talk about them all the time.

No, that's part of his story.

Yeah.

Roman has a child.

And a wife?

Yeah.

But, like, not, he's not married.

We don't know.

That's weird.

Is that crazy?

Yeah.

So either it's a plot hole or it's something they decided like immediately, never mind.

That's a weird thing to do.

I know.

Especially just like write it into the script.

Oh, I'm getting divorced.

Right.

Right.

She has full custody.

Right.

Bye.

Right.

Well, I guess that's your secession recap.

Oh, that's fucking bullshit, by the way.

Like, seriously, we didn't even talk about if the show ends.

Like, not fucking cool, Kevin Coster.

I just got here.

I know you just got here, but I would be okay if they end the show with integrity.

Yeah, of course.

It's better to have loved and lost than not ever.

You're not telling me that we don't even have a season left.

We have half a season left.

Right, because they stopped for mid-season finale and they literally never finished season five.

The thing is, like, the way that season five is going so far, it's giving final season vibes already.

Like, it's so

nostalgic, and just it's not dramatic.

It's kind of like just closing the reds.

Like, it's they're constantly at like the county fair listening to music and enjoying life.

In your eyes, because I think it's fairly obvious to me, like, how does the succession of Yellowstone go?

Like, John is getting older.

What happens next?

Uh,

I think that it has to be Beth, Rip, and Casey.

They all can live there.

They all do their share.

They each kind of do a third of what John was doing as a one.

And then it goes to Casey's son.

But you don't think they're going to adopt that runaway kid?

I think they could, and that runaway kid could be to Casey's son what Rip was to John.

Just because he doesn't have Dun in his blood.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's terrible.

But no, but like.

I think that would be nice.

If they should foster a friendship between Casey's son and

the runaway.

What do they keep calling him?

Just kid.

Yeah, I don't know.

And then we could see how in 50 years it is John and Rip is his right hand.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Maybe, you know,

the runaway kid falls in love with like, if

Casey has a daughter, maybe.

Right.

Casey has a daughter.

Yeah, I like that.

I love it.

Done.

Yeah, that's actually really good.

Yeah, welcome, Taylor.

It's literally just copy and pasting.

Yeah, but I think that would be so nice.

Yeah.

Obsess.

Yeah, that's really good.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see, but we've been saying that for a while.

Apparently, they're not even filming.

When are we going to get the second half of the season?

I feel like they might be filming.

That part, I feel like they don't know shit about fuck.

Yeah, it's just like, what is Colehauser going to do next?

Like, he's very born just for this role.

There's spin-off talk, Matthew McConnell.

Yeah.

Four-horse farm.

666.

No.

Six acres.

Six.

That farm in Dallas or Texas where Jimmy went.

Jimmy went.

Triple six?

No.

Six shoe.

Six horse.

Four star?

Yellowstone.

The sixes, I think.

The sixes.

Six.

Just spin off Jimmy.

Yellowstone sixes.

Everything we know about Yellowstone spin-off

six six six six.

What?

Four sixes?

Four sixes.

Four sixes, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's like, didn't feel right.

No, it didn't feel good.

Like, it didn't.

Like, when you get it.

The four sixes.

But yeah, maybe it's that.

There's more.

And the Matthew McConaughey show.

Did you say that?

Yeah.

Like, they're saying that he could be the next John Dutton, but I think he's going to show he shouldn't come in on Yellowstone.

That will ruin the show.

Yeah.

And we have 1923, which I finished in 1883, which I truly couldn't get through.

Did you like 1923?

I did.

I don't know if I just liked it because that guy was

so hot.

And Michelle Randolph.

So I don't know if I was like blinded by like the sexy man and the beautiful woman.

I don't think that you could be blinded in 1923.

Like, I feel like that would be a hard thing for you to like.

Like, yes, except it was like very my vibe.

Like, so much of it takes place in Africa, and they're like these beautiful safaris.

And, like, I love that shit.

And it was like in the

early 1900s.

So it was like very glamorous.

You know, they're all going on safaris.

It's like roaring 20s.

Yeah.

I didn't, it was like kind of the vibe, you know?

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

I gotta watch.

Oh, you didn't see it?

No.

Oh, my God.

The guy is so hot.

Like, it's literally the most important part of the show.

Hotter than Rip?

No, no, no.

But different, because this guy's like very traditionally, like, he was meant to be an actor.

Kohlhauser was probably told, like, in many auditions, like, you're not traditionally handsome enough.

You're not, like, ripped enough.

You'll never be the leading man.

Right.

And that's what makes him.

I'm not ripped enough.

I'll become ripped.

Oh, no, he said, I'm not ripped enough.

I don't give a rip.

I,

that's why he's so, in my opinion, like popping off and like women are in love with him because he kind of looks like just everyone's husband.

Like, he's not this like crazy, crazy body, different, like he's just like so American.

No, and also it's his character that we've fallen in love with.

Like, nothing is like, not the character of Rip.

No, no, no, that's not what I mean.

His character as a man.

Yeah.

And like we've said, your character at a certain point outweighs your looks.

Like, I see you for what you truly are.

Which is ugly.

Which could be ugly.

In Rip's case, it's it's extremely handsome.

So true.

Look at us.

Sit us with her feet.

No, I copied you.

It's kind of a nice way to sit, Ribbon.

I completely disagree.

That's better.

It's kind of nice.

Well, you're wearing big shoes.

Yeah.

Big, heavy shoes.

That's a heavy load to carry.

Speaking of heavy loads to carry, we've officially carried this one all the way through for, wow, an hour 15.

We went long today.

Wow, look at us.

Thanks, Trax.

Thanks, Turdy.

Thanks so much for listening to the show.

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Monday, Friday on YouTube.

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Me mans, it's my vitamins to pop up.

I request pockets, we've lived myself.

It's so simple.

We've been a beautiful sunny and weekly talented.

We are.

Hope you guys have a great day.

We'll see you tomorrow for Hump Day.

Yeah.

Oh, that's exciting.

I love you.

Bye.