The Scandoval: Tuesday, March 7th, 2023
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Good morning, Millennials.
Welcome back to the toast.
Happy Tuesday.
Hope everyone's having an amazing day thus far.
I know I am because I get to spend the next 60 plus minutes with a girl I adore.
It's Harry's mom.
Hey, Harry's mom.
How you darn?
Darn good.
Thank you for that beautiful introduction, Turdeluya.
Oh, I didn't even notice you're wearing my sweater again.
Yeah, just missing you.
And we have actually a really good plan in place for your next visit.
We just solidified plans.
So I'm just gearing up with excitement, going through your things, rifling through them.
No, I never put the sweater back in your closet.
It's been residing in mine.
But yeah, I'll just get a new one.
How about that?
Like, it's yours.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's so it's so clear when somebody loves something you just have to let it go, you know?
No, and you know, I'm literally the most generous.
If you kept wearing my sweater that like you love that I literally left it your house, like I wouldn't, I'd be so happy that it found a new life.
Like I literally offered to loan you my necklace yesterday because you said that you liked it and that you would buy it from me.
And I said instead you could just loan it until I need it back.
Okay, you don't have to like shove it in my face.
I'm giving you the sweater.
Like, no, but just like you could just be a little more generous when dealing with your girl.
What did I do that was not generous?
Just like calling me out,
you know.
I don't really feel like that's a bad thing.
Like no offense.
Like.
It's not even that cute of a sweater.
Don't even start.
Like you obviously love it.
Just admit you love the sweater.
Just admit you want to marry the sweater, okay?
I like your sweater.
I have that outfit.
Where is it?
Is that mine?
No, this is, I got it in PR from Spanks because I like, I kind of work with Spanks.
Yeah, I worked with them and I got it too, Wenchilu.
They're just giving it away.
Yeah, no, I got like, I got two, actually.
I don't know how many you got, but I got two.
Where's the other one?
Oh, the plum one.
No, it's like a beige.
I wore it a few weeks ago.
I was actually going to wear it this morning, but I'm like, all right, I should change it up.
I feel like if anybody ever took a real look at the clothes I wear on the toast, there's about 20 things that I rotate.
And it's like actually embarrassing.
Maybe not 20, like seven.
A few years ago, we took a look at like the three core sweaters that you were wearing, like the period sweater.
Yeah.
I forget there were two others,
but you can make the case for both of us now.
It's really just the bar sweatshirts and any other sweatshirts that I happen to acquire.
I'm just like constantly in a state of confusion when I see people online on social media, like always wearing different outfits.
Where do they store these outfits?
Where do they buy these outfits?
I'm actually shocked at how little I see outfit repeating online.
Well, that's people's jobs to, you know, give you fresh outfits every single day.
And if I went into my closet and picked something different every single day, like I could wear a different outfit every single day.
I could
too.
No, I literally couldn't.
No, like you have a huge closet full of clothes that I can't wear.
I know.
I mean, I actually can't wear mine right now, but like you could wear.
No, I physically, psychologically, like I cannot wear 75% of the items in my in my closet.
I can't tell you why, but like if you know, you know.
No, I know.
I know.
You know?
You should do a closet cleanout.
Like, I do, like, biannually.
I do it all the time.
So what's the reason why you can't wear them?
I can't really explain it.
It's more of just a feeling.
I mean, I know the feeling.
Like, they're irrelevant to me.
Either they're too big, too small, too ugly, too formal, formal, too informal.
Like there's a reason for every single one.
Yeah.
No, I totally understand.
It's so glad to be on the podcast with somebody who understands me.
I'm an understanding person, Turdy Lou.
You actually are.
Thank you.
We've got a great show.
Lots to discuss.
Lots of things continually unfolding.
Continually unfolding.
Lots of follow-ups, obviously, to the Scandoval, which is the name that this is taking on.
Oh, I love that.
Yeah, I don't know where I saw it, but then I saw Bravo Instagram posted
like inter a picture of someone being interviewed with that what's that thing in hollywood that's like
yeah the marker marker and on it it said hashtag scandival
oh so that's the official name which works for me because it also puts the onus on sandoval which right bears more of the responsibility here though raquel is not innocent really do you think
yeah
Yeah, I mean, they're both.
They're both extremely guilty.
The guilt is so extreme.
Everybody owed someone something, but he owed more.
Yeah, because he was in a relationship.
He's also much older.
Yes, so true.
And by the way, it's actually crazy how big this story has become.
Like Ariana and Tom and Raquel are all being followed around by paparazzi.
There's paparazzi outside their homes.
And I saw pictures this morning of Tom Sandoval smoking a cigarette outside, like seeing the paparazzi and like smiling.
Like he's living for this.
Like he's so narcissistic.
I can't imagine living for this.
That's true delusion and true, like, narcissism, Machiavellian.
Actually, maybe he is.
Like, he's the center of the whole world.
It's what he's always wanted.
It's what he's always wanted.
You watch the show, like, he has loved his modicum of fame.
And as it's gotten bigger and bigger, he's gotten more and more unwell.
Like, he literally probably feels like a rock star.
And by the way, that's all he's wanted to feel like.
Did you see his band?
Like, do you not care that everybody hates you?
No, I think some people like live for the fame and like the attention.
That's so good.
So I think he's one of them.
That never occurred to me.
Like when I think about them right now,
I almost feel sorry for them, like how isolating and overwhelming and overwhelmed and like where do they turn to how they must feel.
I'm sure, I mean, on the one hand, I feel that way for Raquel, but on the other hand, like, I don't know her.
Anything I thought I knew about her, I don't know.
So I don't know.
Maybe her and Tom are like, we're the biggest stars in the world today.
Well, Tom Sandoval was photographed yesterday at walking into her apartment building.
We have many an update about the wear.
She hasn't been photographed.
I don't think she's living for this.
Like,
yes, we don't really know her, but I think what we core know about her, especially like who she was a few years ago, like she's still very shy,
even though this is not something a shy person does.
I don't think she's living for this, for this negative attention.
I think Sandoval is.
I don't think she is.
I don't think she is either.
I don't know how she'll navigate it.
But like some of the things that now we know about their affair, like they both wore wore matching necklaces for months.
Do you see this?
This lightning bolt, like that's fucking, that's not shy.
That's brave.
No, that's, that's diabolical.
Yeah.
So
I don't know.
I don't know her.
I can't get into her head because I don't, I can't relate.
I know.
So we have a bunch of updates.
We'll talk about that.
And I just wanted to like share a little tidbit about how I got a manicure pedicure yesterday, last night for my trip to Portugal, which I leave tomorrow for.
Bon voyage, turd delou.
Bon voyage.
And I was saying to you before I left the studio to go that I was kind of embarrassed.
My legs were so hairy because it's like I'm getting all my
things done and then I'm going to do my big shower before my spray tan.
So I went to a pedicure with like really kind of beastly dead of winter legs.
And I've thought this before, but like I don't know why.
And I feel like nail salons are always evolving.
Like they're always.
They're trying to innovate.
Innovate.
They're always looking for things they can charge you for, like things they can add, massage chairs, heated chairs, water.
Some of them serve booze booze now like i don't know why nobody's innovated to offer leg shaving or i would pay i hate shaving my legs i hate shaving my legs or a wax while i'm sitting in the pedicure chair like a leg wax i know you don't like waxing because you don't like pain but it's like
or what i'm saying i would say a majority of women shave their legs
Yeah, yeah, no, but like they have the waxing systems there.
It's kind of weird to have someone shave your legs.
But honestly, the way you sit in a pedicure chair, just bring me a razor.
I'll shave them.
Yeah, no, and my legs are already wet and they've been exfoliated.
And there's a pink puddle there I could keep dipping the razor into.
And, you know, some of us also need maybe like a little shave and a wax on our toes.
Like a toe wax.
You should offer that.
I'm giving this free idea to nail salons all across America.
I don't know why it hasn't been done yet.
I think that this shaving is a little complicated, just like it's a little not hygienic, especially if you really are going to keep like dipping your razor into the water.
But there's no reason why a pedicure shouldn't come with an add-on toe wax you have the waxing systems you're you're you're buffing my foot it's still on my foot yeah i i just think i think they need to innovate and i'm giving them this idea yeah it's a really it's a really strong idea
And then while I was getting my pedicure, thinking about how embarrassed is.
I also gave you another good idea.
You know how they make you take your rings off when you get a manicure and they put them in a little bowl?
They should put them in a bowl with add-on cleaning solution.
Do you want to have your rings cleaned?
Well, they'll sit in a bowl there, and by the time you put them back on, like, they'll be sparkling.
Also, a good idea.
Charge me.
So, I went and throw my earrings into.
Yeah, of course.
My toe ring, my anklet, my bracelet.
I was there at about five o'clock, and it was really empty, which was nice.
They were playing music, and I was just like, we had the longest day yesterday.
We were pre-recording a lot of stuff for when I'm gone on Thursday and Friday.
So, I was really looking forward to just relaxing.
And I find pedicures really relaxing.
I don't find manicures relaxing.
And this big guy comes in for a pedicure and he sits across from me.
We're the only two people in the, in, actually in the salon.
And he's rolling calls while on his pedicure.
I think he was getting like a cleanup and like a foot rubber with it.
What's rolling calls?
Like one after the other after the other in French, in English, and I'm not sure what the third language was because I had my AirPods in and I still heard it, but it sounded like a mix of maybe like Hebrew or Arabic.
And I just kept looking at him.
But sitting between us, there was the biggest sign that said, you know, if you have to make a call, please speak quietly and and make it quick for the you know
for the consideration of other all our other customers i keep staring at the sign and staring at him and like i was really teetering on between wanting to be a karen but then also not wanting to be a karen i'm like my god have some like an ounce an ounce of self-awareness like it's dead silent in here there's spa music playing i'm sitting right across from you
My God, get a grip.
I didn't say anything.
And like, I had my beats AirPods in.
Like, those are noise canceling.
So if if I can fucking hear you you're being loud you had the noise canceling on yeah I had the noise canceling on and like I was really I feel like this is like as you get older like you get to a place between like wanting to like mind your own business but also like wanting to say what's right yeah
I didn't say anything and like I was mad at myself for it yeah I feel like I don't know you could like say something to um
the people in charge of the business because it's kind of like but then I have to it's their job to enforce the rules but then I have to to give these like really sweet ladies who are just minding their own business the task of talking to like this big man yeah you should have just been like a big man and been like hey can it honestly though it was so it lacked such self-awareness it took such balls i'm telling you only like a big man would do that and then also it just begs the question like should men be getting pedicures should yeah man go in there with his big feet It's a place for the girlies, the gays and the girlies.
Like, honestly, him walking in there was a violation of my safe space.
Yeah, even though it's worth mentioning also that my husband gets pedicures.
I was just going to say, it's worth mentioning, Ben loves a nail salon.
He'll always go and get a back rub.
He'll get a leg rub.
He loves, he thinks like nail salon massages are better than like a five-star hotel.
Like, yeah, when he'll come home from work, I'm like, why are you home so late?
Like, your meeting ended 30 minutes ago.
Oh, I just sat by the nail salon to get my back.
Ben will spend $20 for a 15-minute back rub any time of day.
Yeah, so I'm, I, and I, it's like, I want my husband to have like nice-looking feet every once in a while, but not if you can't handle the responsibility.
They should have it at the barber shop, they shouldn't come into our space with those big feet.
No, and I always feel bad for whatever technician is assigned to the man's feet.
Like, all feet are gross, but like they have to get out the chainsaw, yeah, like it's next level, yeah.
And he was just sitting there with like his legs spread, like, he was like, so honestly, the gall,
the whole experience was ruined, like my 30 minutes to myself.
And it really just made me made me think about what?
About what we're talking about.
How, like, this is a protected space.
Yeah.
Like, and you didn't.
And I stand up for your rights, Turdy.
I didn't.
I didn't.
But I do feel good about the fact that, like, when Ben goes into a nail salon without me, he knows how to behave.
Because his intro to nail salons were with me.
I mean, women do it too.
Women do it too.
Yappity, yap, yap.
I don't know.
This was next level.
Like, it was a next level gall.
Gall only a man would have
in a woman's space.
In a woman's space.
Well, next time you'll say something.
Yeah, no, I regret it not, but I thought I was being really obvious.
I literally kept staring at him, looking at the side and looking back like
you were at your eyes.
No, he was, he was, every time I looked at him, he looked at me.
Like he knew I was coming for him.
He was just waiting for me to say something.
You should have.
You backed down.
I know.
I backed down.
I regret it.
I do.
Next time.
You'll get him next time.
How are your nails and toes looking?
Probably better than mine.
Oh, gorgeous.
Oh, Oh, man.
It feels so good to go from being an ogre.
I can't even tell you the last time I got a pedicure because it's like winter.
And I think for my trip to Belize in December, I honestly was like, fuck it.
So I truly, I think it was summer when I got a pedicure.
No, we got pedicures together when you were here in December.
Yeah, we both got gel pedicures.
Remember, we sat next to each other.
We had a good time.
Yeah, no, I remember.
That must be my last pedicure.
That's not that long ago.
December.
That's mine last two.
But I'm getting a pedicure on Thursday, but they didn't have time for a man cure.
Plus, I sliced my fingers, so I'm not really in a position to get a manicure without burning my fingers off.
What do finger band-aids remind you of?
Now, these days they remind me of Michaela, but I feel like for you, they remind you of spy kids.
Juni Cortez, who's married to Megan Traynor, and they're also pregnant.
She's part of your pregnancy crew.
Yes, yes, she is.
She's number two.
Yes, she is.
Have you heard her new song?
She's kind of getting dragged for it.
What is it?
It's not the one, I could have my Gucci.
No, that's like old now.
And she released a song called Mother.
Oh.
But,
okay so like people are like
people are saying she's like really writing music for TikTok now and it's like so obvious but then there's also an argument to be made like Megan Markle's not Megan Markle Megan Trainer's music has always been that way and TikTok is just the perfect place for her to promote her music and it's why she's so popular on TikTok.
No, it's like when you're an artist you have to be writing for TikTok but then if you write for TikTok like you're slammed for writing for TikTok like and that really is her genre has not changed like since all about that bass like she really does that like bubblegum pop but some of the lyrics in this chorus are like a little cringe so with if she's getting sent for the lyrics or the beat
both but it the chorus goes like this i am your mother you listen to me
stop all that man splaning yeah the mansplaining wasn't great wait tell me who told you permission to speak i am your mother you listen to me
You're just a bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum.
I actually like that she sampled that bum.
It didn't say, honestly, people are overreacting to it, and it's so Megan Traynor.
Like, leave her alone.
Okay, but I'm searching, and she has a song called Mom, but it doesn't have the lyrics that you're talking about.
Oh, sorry, the song's not out yet.
She just teased the chorus on TikTok.
Oh, okay.
I am your mother.
You listen to me.
So you could see people who are going to be able to do that.
Stop all that mansplaining.
Yeah, putting mansplaining in the chorus of your song is never going to be a way to win my heart over, but there's an audience for everything.
I don't know.
She might have gone too far.
right she may have girl boss a little too close to the sun she might have talked too close to the sun do you see that tick tock might be getting banned yeah i know i mean we've been saying that for like years but there's a bill that's like going the distance like a few a few years ago like there was actually a chance but then somebody bought a deal was made like an american company oracle did they they were the ones And they said, we'll take over U.S.
TikTok.
Yeah.
And then all was quiet.
But now it's apparently like a big enough security threat again that a bill is going the distance.
I've seen the argument for why it should be banned and like I do agree, but like I'm not going to be okay if it is.
I think you'll be amazing.
No, you guys, like I'm torn between, you know, what the heart wants and what the heart needs.
And you're saying from like a content consumption perspective, because don't you feel like a part of you would be relieved that you don't have to run in this rat race anymore that's been like had this chokehold over you for years?
Like kind of, but like I'm starting to have success.
So like now they're going to to ban it.
I watched.
I'm going to your TikTok.
How many followers do you have?
Like, 240K.
And, like, I'm making money on it like a bitch.
Like, girls got to eat you.
Oh, you're making money.
I mean, compared to like other creators and the fact that like TikTok is their number one moneymaker.
Oh, it wouldn't affect me.
No.
No, it's, it's like,
at this point, it's like supplemental, disposable income.
It's not like the core of my business.
I think if it did go away, like, a lot of influencers would be screwed.
But I did watch this 60-minute segment all about you know china and tick tock and the youth and you know a good case was made so i think it's a good case i think it's it should go and i think it would be best for everyone on so many levels and i know nobody wants
and like the good news is We have Reels.
Like you could.
It's so true.
It's so true.
Like someone was made a joke, like, where will I get all my recipes from if TikTok goes away?
And it's like, I get my recipes on Reels.
Come hang out.
Like, it's.
yeah, no, and maybe now Reels people won't be getting everything six months later because everyone will be on Reels, yeah.
And like, you could still create all the stuff that you were doing.
Like, people who were TikTok creators only have to do it on Reels now.
Like,
it wouldn't be, it would be, it would actually be the most disruptive thing that's ever happened to social media.
Um, and I think it would honestly be very similar to
Instagram video depleting Vine.
That was like a cultural show.
No, but like, Vine natural organically became highly relevant.
Nothing it really happened in like a week.
No, but like because the people spoke.
Like TikTok is more pervasive than Vine ever was.
It is literally all-consuming for people, not just even kids, kids, teens, adults, everyone.
And for it to just one day at the peak of its popularity be gone, like
we wouldn't talk about anything else for literally weeks.
No, Scandival would be over in a second.
That's what Scandival needs.
He should be on the House floor advocating for this bill.
Lobbying against TikTok.
Yeah.
So I just feel like we've been talking about like TikTok's going away for so long.
I know there is like actual legislation now.
It just doesn't feel like it ever actually will be gone, but it might be.
It might be.
So if you know, and you know what?
We were literally talking last week about like what we can do for mental health.
And to be honest, like I would miss TikTok desperately.
And I feel like I have a pretty good grasp on my mental health when it comes to social media.
But like everyone else, like it gets to you.
I think it would be really good for everyone, honestly.
I think it would be really good for everyone, really good for the country, have really good ripple effects.
More people like might go outside, might talk to people in person.
Yeah.
I think it would be great.
So
we shall see.
We shall see.
Shall we see?
And it has bipartisan support.
So
I don't know.
It could really happen.
So if you're a creator focused on TikTok, you might want to diversify.
Start a podcast.
Get your reels blow.
Like post, start posting reels before time's up.
Start a YouTube channel.
Yeah, have something else for the talkers to go to.
Because remember the last time it almost went down,
everyone started being like, follow me on Instagram.
Like, but that's not that crazy right now.
No, because it was like, fool me once.
It was fool me once.
It's like, nobody feels like it's ever actually really going to stop.
Yeah.
Like the last time we got really, really close, like the president was talking about it.
Like it was literally 60 days.
60 days.
It's not a countdown.
It didn't even happen then so i think people are like all right it's the boy who cried tick tock you know yeah
we'll see we'll see okay well let's get into the mindless stories that you need to know before you wake up and have an amazing day
good one oh okay let me just try you to try again
you want to try it again no like even though it was a little clunky it's a good message
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I've been stalking your TikTok.
Why?
Just to see what's going on.
Oh, what do you find?
Right now I'm down from like when you were in Florida and I'm in the videos because I found that to be quite titillating.
But I was going to say, like, I feel like, are you shadow banned?
Like some of your videos are like, like there's one that has like
this one that has what?
184 plays.
Which one?
Oh, because, okay, like, tell me you've never been on TikTok without telling me.
It's friends only.
It's like close friends.
I'm following your close friends.
Well, close friends is like who you follow and follows you back.
So you can't really control.
I actually don't like it.
I never really post to close friends because just because I follow someone doesn't mean I want them to see my innermost thoughts yeah
yeah but it's a pretty decent formula it's it's it's something
it's something i love close friends even though i don't use it that often i love the concept yeah okay so what else shadow band
oh sorry um that our video our reels of like the toasts are not doing what they used to do
Yeah, no, I definitely think when we first started posting, every once in a while, like one pops off.
But now they're getting, they get like 50 to 75K, unless there's like a major moment.
And then like last week, TikTok was like weirdly down.
And like videos were getting like five and ten views.
It was actually kind of weird.
I don't know what happened.
Yeah, suspicious.
Do you post the scandival TikTok?
Yeah, that's the one
I see.
I see.
Yeah.
Very fun stuff.
Yeah, I love TikTok.
Yeah.
I can't wait to see all these videos on Reels.
Yeah, you'll be waiting some time.
Oh my gosh, what happened to all my tabs?
Turdy Lou, I don't know how to use this godforsaken iPad.
Oh my gosh.
Hold on.
For real.
Here, I found it.
Okay, thank God.
First story, all the updates in the scandoval.
One.
Tom Sandoval makes a late-night visit to Raquel's apartment
amid the affair scandal.
Tom made sure to check in with Raquel after Ariana dumped him, after she found out about their months-long affair.
The Vanderpump rules start with Spaden making an after-hours visit to Raquel's LA apartment on Saturday night, just one day after their affair made headlines.
Despite trying to stay under the radar in an all-black outfit and a baseball hat, he was photographed walking into the building while looking down at his phone.
Raquel has not been seen since all of this started.
Also,
TMZ claimed that this late-night rendezvous was not filmed, though everything that they're doing right now is being filmed.
Sandoval's rep insisted that he and Raquel shot a scene together for the Bravo series before the reality TV star left through a private exit.
I think that they're filming everything though, but.
Yeah, no, I mean, I have to imagine Tom Sandoval would only and like rockl too would only agree to let him come over and like make this a whole wave of news if they were filming a scene together like that's a reason why you would get together that's true but i also felt like i was glad that he was checking in on her you know because they're like these two like obviously what they did was so horrible but like who can she turn to right now she has no one and it's like i feel like if they turn on each other which is why i said yesterday i hope that they don't i hope that they do stay together that would be like one positive outcome out of this as opposed to them blowing up their lives for absolutely nothing.
Yeah, no, they have to get married at this point.
Yeah.
So I hope that he was checking on her because even though he seems to be fine, as you say, and like probably a part of him loves the attention,
most people would not
be okay right now.
Yeah, no, she's probably struggling way more than he is because he's, like we said, deeply unwell.
Tom and Ariana, I believe, filmed a scene together yesterday as well.
And so what came out of that, the rumors, is that like he pretty much like gaslit her into explaining why,
while he was explaining why he didn't tell her about the affair saying that like he didn't want to cause like mental health issues for her and just like coming up with all these excuses as to why he didn't tell her about it
because and apparently kristen dotie also filmed a scene with ariana really
and you know what i know she's been fired but like this girl deserves her
come up in it's like she deserves to be vindicated and after now it will have been like eight years she is gonna get her moment yeah oh that's
so interesting.
She's also going on Sheena's, we were talking about Sheena's podcast.
Sheena's having Lala and Kristen Dodie on her podcast this week.
And she couldn't get
she couldn't get Ariana?
No, I'm sure she tried.
And Lala is having someone, maybe Sheena.
I mean, I'm sure they're all just like, on the one hand, they're there for Ariana.
And I read Ariana hasn't been alone for one second since all of this happened.
Like her friends are there for her.
But also like for the whole ecosystem that comes from Vanner Pump Rules, everyone's podcast, everyone's Instagram, everyone's stories.
Like everyone is doing the most here.
Yeah.
I do feel also like, obviously, Tom Sandoval, a lot of the fans have turned against him.
I feel like a lot of them are turning against Schwartz too.
Like just because they're like this dynamic duo and it like also it makes people question like what was this whole Schwartz and Raquel thing?
Was Schwartz involved in covering this up?
So one of the other parts of the story is Andy addressed like hit this, I guess, on his show and talked about like some of the red flags that at the time he didn't think of it as anything, but now he sees it like in context.
So he says that he noticed red flags before the affair reveal.
He said he was surprised on Wednesday, just hours before the news broke, that Raquel said on Watch What Happens Live that she thought Sandoval was cuter than Schwartz, whom with whom she'd previously kissed.
She said, he said, I looked up and said to Raquel, oh, you said Sandoval.
Hmm.
And then they moved on.
But then during the commercial break, Sheena asked Raquel to explain her answer.
Sheena said to, I guess Sheena's antenna was up and Sheena said to Raquel, you know, I only picked Sandoval because I knew you were going to pick Schwartz.
And then Raquel said, well, Sandoval has abs and kind of shrugged.
So, you know, that was interesting.
Ooh, that's fucking weird.
I feel like she actually, like, probably slipped.
No, I think if this is the person that, like, she loves, like, she's not going to slight him on air.
Like, it's an affair.
Like, they have to be somewhat subtle.
Yeah, but they gotten away with it.
And they were so bad.
And people think, and people think she's currently dating Schwartz.
That whole thing happened two weeks ago with the picture.
She took a picture with Schwartz.
I've had Schwartz and Sandy's.
What the fuck was that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's also making me really suspicious of Tom Schwartz.
Yeah.
Well, I think he was kind of a pawn, but wait.
He also, Andy also emphasized that at the time, he didn't think twice about it, but after the news broke about the affair, he messaged Sheena.
Imagine like Sheena, best day of her life.
And he messaged her.
Best day of her fucking life.
He messaged Sheena to get more details on the interaction, but he didn't divulge specifically what Sheena told him.
He said, I thought it was odd.
Then he discussed when Sandoval and Schwartz were on Watch What Happens Live on February 8th.
He said when Schwartz was on with Sandoval on premiere night, there was some odd energy between them.
Schwartz was looking at Sandoval the entire time, almost for guidance on answers.
His feelings on the odd episode led him to wonder, when did Schwartz find out about this?
I just want to say Schwartz like looking to Sandoval for answers is not like the most new thing.
Schwartz is like spineless.
He's kind of like a dope.
I think that was part of the reason his marriage fell apart.
Like I feel like,
I feel like that's actually like who he is.
He's always like, what do I do?
Yes, but
in Tom's statement, he said Schwartz only found out about this very recently.
I feel like he could have known about this when they were filming Watch What Happens Live.
And it's like, if the questions he, I didn't watch your episode, but if the questions that were being asked were about Schwartz and Raquel,
and Schwartz knows that Sandoval is actually with Raquel,
how do I answer these questions?
Yeah.
I know, it's, it's a, it's amazing.
And then, Andy he also brought up another tidbit of Raquel and Ariana all watching Sandoval's band perform during BravoCon in October.
He said, I was at that show and I'm standing there and Raquel's standing behind me and Ariana's in front of me.
And you can see how they're both looking at Sandoval.
It's wild.
He revealed that he learned about the affair on Thursday, just one day after Raquel and Sheena appeared on his late night talk show.
He said that he found the revelation disturbing, shocking, and upsetting.
And he also confirmed that Bravo Cameras have been filming the whole ordeal and will play out before the reunion, which films in two weeks.
Good.
Good.
Yes.
Then also, he addressed,
a lot of fans are calling for Andy to fire Raquel over this.
Oh, no, it's finally good.
I know, but he said that he has no plans to do anything because he's no longer involved in Vanderpump Rules besides being a huge fan and hosting the reunions.
He said that he has not worked on Pump Rules since season six or seven before reiterating, I'm only the reunion guy.
But some literal literal unhinged fans are like, Tom and Raquel, this was a tweet, Tom and Raquel should be fired for manipulating and fabricating false storylines to keep this dark secret.
They tried to outsmart production and withhold their true personal lives and still collect their check.
This is aside from ruining everyone they love for sport.
These are the same people who are like Jen Shaw should be fired, even though she's like an actual criminal who defrauded the vulnerable members of our communities.
And this is also like part of the reason why I can't watch Bravo anymore.
The fans are so toxic.
I actually think they're on par with like Selenators, like teeny bopper, like
psychotic fans.
They're the Selenators grown up.
Grown up.
I can't with Bravo fans.
They're so not okay.
Yeah.
No, it's moronic to think that these two people who, while committing doing something so egregious, actually just saved the show that they should now be fired.
But what's going to happen if we like, go down this road is that Raquel and Tom, whether or not not they stay together or not will be naturally alienated from the group nobody will want to hang out with them nobody will want to film with them the ties that bind will not be there and so once the dust settles from all of this yeah i don't know what their place will be but it reminded me of something that you said yesterday about this being the vanderpump of your
because that's what would happen in the early seasons like remember kristen hooked up with jax who's sassy's best friend and boyfriend and you would think these people will never get over this but like the vanderpump crew like, gets over stuff.
So, even though this is the worst crime that's ever been committed, they get over the unthinkable over there.
I know.
So, I could see a world in which like they all film together for years to come, or like, really organically, Raquel and
Tom, if they stay together, like naturally fizzle out of the group because that's how normal human beings would handle it.
But Vanderbruppe Rules is on another level.
No, and they've always been like just so forgiving of crimes that you that most people could never forgive from a friend.
Yeah.
And
a partner.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, you're right.
I mean, the idea that these two should be fired for this is probably one of the dumbest things I've ever heard any human being say.
Generations are
getting so invested starting Dana Prumprills from the beginning.
This is the best thing that ever could happen to the show.
And while, yes, on a human level, it's deplorable what they did, on an entertainment level,
the idea that they should be fired is fucking moronic.
And people are so dumb.
People are so dumb.
dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb.
Like, that's what we watch reality TV for, like bad behavior.
Dumb.
We didn't watch, even though we're not going to see like a bunch of saints doing charity.
No, and it's like back in the day before Bravo had like a really toxic fan base and Vanderpump Rules was just getting started.
Like, nobody would have ever called for Kristen to have been fired when she slept with Jax.
That was like the best thing ever.
And let's be not forget, Van Vanderpump Rules started with Sheena
having a conversation with her ex-boyfriend's wife
from Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
Honestly, I feel like everyone remembers where they were when the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills episode ended and Sheena was just a waitress and then she walked into the restaurant and the first episode of Vanderpump Rules began and she was a reality star.
Yeah.
That was a moment in time.
It was.
And that's like where we started.
So we're not so far off in terms of, you know, you didn't come to the show looking for pious human beings.
We started with an extramarital affair.
We did.
Marital.
A woman with kids.
Like, that was the ex-love.
Yeah.
This is the show about the mistress.
Don't forget what you're watching.
Is there anyone on this show who hasn't cheated or been cheated on?
I don't think Katie ever cheated on Schwartz.
But she has been cheated on, remember?
Your man made out with my friend.
Yes, yes, yes.
But like she is pious.
You know what I'm saying?
Cheated or cheated on.
Was there any relationship that was a kosher the whole way through, you're asking?
Yeah, we just found out James and Raquel wasn't.
Obviously, Lala and Randall wasn't.
Tom and Ariana wasn't.
Tom and Katie wasn't.
Jackson Stosi wasn't.
Jackson Brittany wasn't.
Oh, Jackson Brittany wasn't.
What's wrong with these people?
I don't know.
Is there a single?
So far, Brock and Sheena are good, but we don't know.
But yeah, they're pretty kosher.
Yeah, I think if something happened, someone would let us know.
Did Sheena and Shay break up for infidelity or or just because he was deadweight?
She was deadweight stealing her money, I think.
Like, yeah, other stuff.
That was crazy to hear Sheena talk about her divorce.
Yeah.
It's been a wild ride and it's just starting over again.
Yes, exactly.
So we'll keep you posted.
I mean, I think everybody, oh, sorry, there was one other big piece of the story, which was that
Raquel's lawyers have sent out statements to the cast because she, her intimate FaceTime with session with Tom says that she says it was recorded without permission so the
word on the street is that the video that Ariana saw on Tom's phone was a screen recorded sex FaceTime between Tom and Raquel and then I guess that video like disseminated through the friend group but it was recorded without Raquel's permission so Raquel says the intimate FaceTime session she had with Tom Sandoval that ultimately led to led to Tom's split with Ariana was recorded without her permission and she's gotten her lawyers involved to warn everyone about sharing it.
Raquel's lawyers fired off a letter Monday to several cast members and friends warning that the recording was done illegally without Raquel's knowledge or consent.
Her attorney cited a revenge porn law in the California Penal Code outlining non-consensual photography, making it a crime to invade someone's privacy and disseminate such material.
What's more, the letter warns any distribution of the recording, whether posted on social media or forwarded to another person, would be a violation.
The letter doesn't specifically accuse Tom of illegally recording the conversation, but sources who have seen the video tell us it's only the two of them on the call.
Lawyers order anyone in possession of the recording to promptly delete it from their phones, the cloud, or any other manner or method in which the recording may exist.
The letter ended with stern words of caution saying this matter should be taken very seriously.
Well, I agree with that.
Like, you know, nobody should be sharing that around, even though this is like a crazy situation.
It's still
wrong.
But not her, like, not blaming Tom, you know?
Yeah, it's weird.
It's like half of the illegal activity was it being recorded without her consent and like that it wouldn't exist if it weren't for her boyfriend, I guess.
Right, call him, and so it's like, how could you really even continue to date someone like that when they have done something that's such a violation of your trust?
Yeah, but they have to stay together, yeah.
I just honestly, I don't even know how to raquel could be attracted to, I don't know how anyone can be attracted to Tom Sandoval.
His personality, even if you think he's like good looking, like in terms of physical attributions, one word out of his mouth and he's the ugliest motherfucker on the planet.
Yeah, I don't even know what he looks like anymore because I only see his insides.
That's how I am about people though.
That's so true.
I only see his insides.
I don't know if he's objectively handsome because I only like, and that's how I feel about like people on shows in general.
But when it comes to Tom and Tom, though, like I feel like Schwartz is more handsome.
Much more.
But it's actually just because I'm only seeing his insides, which are more handsome than his outside.
His insides aren't even that great.
They're not that great, but like they're nicer looking than Tom Sandovals.
Tom is very conventionally handsome, like the classic standard of beauty.
Schwartz?
Schwartz.
Okay.
Yeah.
I want to know.
I can't see.
Yeah, no, I know what you mean.
I know what you mean.
But he's definitely always been like one of the more handsome people on the show.
Okay, but they both said in the thing that Tom Sandoval is better looking, but I guess Sheena only said it.
But now we know why.
It wasn't because they thought it.
Yeah.
Sheena was trying to be nice, all right?
I know Raquel's going to say Schwartz, so let me say Sandoval, so it's like a tie.
That was actually a really thoughtful thing
for Sheena to do.
She puts out in Shein.
She is always really thoughtful when it comes to the guys in the group.
Yeah, and that's what makes her so fucking toxic.
Like a girl, oh, I couldn't care less.
Tom Schwartz needs me.
Let me run in my car for two hours to get to his house three times this week.
Literally.
It's funny how a lot of
the scandival is splashing onto Tom Schwartz, but for us, it's splashing onto Sheena.
Onto Sheena.
Well, it's showing a lot of people's true colors because like you can tell, you really do.
Like you can, and it sucks, but like you are who you associate with.
Yeah.
So like this whole time, what we're watching on TV, Sheena's up Raquel, Schwartz, and Sandoval's ass.
Red alert, red flag,
yeah.
Woo!
Alert, alert.
Anyways, I mean, I really hope people should not be sharing this video.
Like, she's obviously done something really bad, but like nobody deserves this.
That's such a violation.
And this is a
a check in dumois column because duma had a blind item that like her crisis pr team was fired they hired a new company and like they were taking the angle of like playing the victim in revenge porn even though i don't know if it's not necessarily playing the victim because she is a victim of revenge porn here but this is exactly what dumois said her first kind of statement was gonna be but then dumois also said that they were gonna play the angle of like they are not gonna stay together raquel is gonna act like she was like manipulated and a victim of toms and like falling for him maybe this is the first step in that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're all just kind of waiting to see like if Raquel says anything, puts out a statement.
I don't, there's really nothing she could say at this point.
I don't know what I would advise.
Honestly, I would have more respect if she stayed with him.
Yeah.
You made this horrible decision.
Of course, she should stay with him,
especially if she loves him.
Don't break up with him because we're all mad.
Right.
No, like you knew how horrible this was when you were doing it.
So you obviously have strong feelings and like you, you were okay with it.
So now that it's blown up, like stand by your decision.
Yeah.
I was thinking about yesterday, like
what's how
in what's a way that this could have been made okay?
Like say you fall in love with your girlfriend's best friend.
You guys will start having an affair.
Your girlfriend finding out like is the worst possible scenario.
So I think anything would have been better.
Him coming clean and coming.
Yes, yes.
That would have been better.
I think maybe him realizing he's in love with her and not having an affair, but
breaking up with Ariana and being truthful that he's having feelings for someone else.
Like they all would have been bad, but they all would have been better.
Yeah, but you also know there's like the rumors that they're going to play out this season on the show that Tom and Ariana were in an open relationship.
Right.
So if you're having feelings for someone else in an open relationship, is that kosher?
Of course, when it's a friend, it's a different sort of thing.
I think the first rule of open relationships is when you start to catch feelings, like it has to be addressed.
Either like you guys have to to break up or you can't see that person anymore.
Like, that's the number one rule of open relationships is like, no feelings.
Yeah.
And then if, I think if you start to catch feelings, like they should have went to Ariana, he should have ended things and then they should have started a relationship together if that's what they wanted.
Like it still would have been,
it still would have been unbelievable and messy, but it wouldn't have been as twisted and dark as this is.
There's no great way to handle it, but this was the worst by far, having Ariana find out by accident on her own.
After seven months.
Yeah.
Seven months.
That's a long time.
How much time?
You know you're in love with someone after three months.
That's a long time to be a big liar.
And it's psychopathic.
It's psychopathic.
It's diabolical.
Yeah.
So that's the update of today.
We'll keep you posted, peeps.
Peeps.
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Some relationship news.
Avril Levine and Tyga confirm their relationship with a kiss.
Haven't you heard how they rock each other's words?
Yeah, that's a great opening for this page of six article.
Avril Levine and Taiga confirmed their rumored romance with lots of PDA on Monday during a Paris Fashion Week event.
The rocker and the rapper were photographed kissing and holding hands at the Muglaire ex-Hunter Schaefer party.
At one point, Tyga, who was notably wearing baggy clothes, put one arm around Avril's neck and grabbed the bottom of her face with his other hand.
The musicians could not wipe the smiles off their faces as they shared multiple smooches in front of lots of people.
They walked hand in hand through the crowd with
him leading the way, lots of PDA, lots of cameras.
So this is very much their coming out moment.
Since we reported their thing at Nobo, it was unclear if they were, you know, collabbing, dating she was if she was still engaged to mod's son he didn't know they were no longer engaged um
his rep at the time said they were together and engaged as of three days ago when he left for tour so if anything has changed that's news to him and then he addressed the breakup on his instagram saying his entire life completely changed over the course of one week i just know there's a plan for it all i'll keep my head up and always listen to my heart even when it feels broken Oh, that's sad.
I feel like there's probably more that we don't know.
I don't think Avril just like bounces from an engagement.
Like, I feel like he's kind of being manipulative.
Also,
Tyga and Avril are like lovey-dovey in Paris right now.
And that is where Maud Sun and her got engaged.
Oh, that's tough.
I feel like this is the weirdest couple of all time.
Like, I can't get over it.
And honestly,
just seeing Avril Levine at Paris Fashion Week is like also so random.
Yeah, she's like front row.
She's a fashion girly.
What's so crazy is that if this was a man doing this who left his fiancé just one day who thought they were together and then was spotted with someone else like traipsing around Paris, they would be finished.
Yeah.
But for me, it's just like another day of Avril.
Yeah, it's it, but I also think it's like, these are three famous people who I feel like nobody cares about, like for real.
Like I'm not going to get invested and be like, poor Mod Sun or go Avril.
Like these are three people.
You're not going to say poor Mod Sun?
No, I'm not.
Like I quite literally
could not care less.
And the only reason I find this story even remotely interesting, because what an odd pairing.
Like this rocker.
I just find them really odd.
i actually found avril and modson to be like a an like a couple i could digest because they're they literally look alike like they're both rockers but like taiga is just so random to me these days like post kardashian it's not really a rapper anymore he's like an only fans like i just find them so bizarre no and what's so weird is i wonder if they ever met as the plus ones of kylie and brody
Right, Avril Levie used to be sedate Brody Jenner and then Tyga at the same time Kylie.
Yeah, at the same time.
They were both in really long-term relationships with both of them.
So I wonder if Kylie and Brody are texting now.
Like, what the fuck?
You know what?
I hope that they are because that's actually really funny.
Really funny.
And just like another, you know,
proof that everything revolves around the Kardashians.
Yeah, this.
Everything in Hollywood.
This in particular.
Oh, speaking of another thing from Chris Rock's special that we talked about yesterday that I really liked was how much respect he put on the Kardashians.
Yeah.
I feel like everyone goes, it's like such a like an obvious, like cheap way to get jokes.
Like the Kardashians, like they love to fuck guys.
Like, ho, ho, ho.
But I feel like he actually
was really respectful of them.
Yes and no, but his overall thesis on them was really funny.
Yeah, how like Chris Jenner is the Statue of Liberty.
Like anyone who comes into her home, she welcomes with open arms.
Bipolar rapper, Kanye?
Sure.
Crackhead?
Basketball player?
Sure.
And then how open they were with Caitlin.
Like I actually thought it was a pretty complimentary.
Yes.
And it's just, especially in comedy, like, everyone goes like for the jug and they're like, Kardashians.
Like, it's like, so, and everyone laughs.
It's, like, so cheap.
And I was like, ready for him to do that.
And he did it.
And I actually really respected that.
It was a fresh cake.
It's a fresh cake.
And you know what?
You have to be a lot funnier and more creative to come up with complimentary jokes because everyone's always doing like ragging on the Kardashians.
There's so much material out there.
Yeah.
It was good.
Yeah.
And this is good.
I'm,
I mean, I wonder what happened with Maud's son, but not really.
But obviously something more happened than her just like deciding one day to not engage and running to Paris with Tyga.
Because she's like a long-term relationship girly.
She's not like a bop around the world kind of girl.
No, she's not.
I'm sure she ended it or they had like a big fight.
Like I'm sure something happened and he's like, what?
Yeah.
Poor Maud's son.
I don't care.
I only know that Maud's son is famous because I've been told about him.
Yes, exactly.
Because everyone like he's in headlines and it's Maud's son.
But I have no idea who he is.
I know, I knew him.
My first intro to him was he was like dating Bella Thorne.
My first intro to him before he dated Bella Thorne, he dated Hannah Beth, who won House of DVF.
You wouldn't know her.
That's so fucking random.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's me.
A show I liked.
Didn't make House of DVF.
Never came back.
Never to be seen again.
Good times.
Good times.
Are you ready for our next story?
Yeah.
Some more canceled canceled television news, but not for long.
Our fourth story?
Third, turdy-loo.
Oh, wow.
Hold on tight.
The Victoria's Secret Fashion Show will return with a new version after a four-year hiatus.
The lingerie retailer announced the return of its iconic Victoria's Secret Fashion Show during a 2022 earnings call on Friday, but fans should expect some changes to the sexy run-race spectacle, which has been hiatus on hiatus for the past four years.
As first reported by Retail Dive, the company announced it will bring back its fashion show this year after plummeting ratings and criticism over its lack of racial and body diversity caused the retailer to put the event on pause in 2019.
We're going to continue to lean into the marketing spend
to invest in the business, both at the top of the funnel and also to support the new version of our fashion show, which is to come later this year.
The CFO said, I don't know what the fuck that means.
Victoria's Secret has yet to share what the new version of the fashion show will entail, but the brand tells us the show will reflect who they are today.
Okay, I have a call.
Okay.
I'm going to make a good call.
I just thought about it.
I feel like Remy Bader's going to walk in the show.
She's has a big partnership with them.
That's a good call.
I'm putting it out there.
I said it first.
That is a good call.
So I'm open to this.
They said.
And Amira.
And Amira, the TikTok makeup girling.
Okay.
Well, they said that they believe that they're two years into a five-year journey and the turnaround of their business and have a clear roadmap to being the world's leading fashion retailer of intimate apparel.
So one, I appreciate that they're not just like, we're making changes and now we're changed.
Like two years out of five years, I'm like, okay, we're making wide over
changes.
Yeah.
And I'm open to them bringing it back and making it better
because, you know, ratings plummet.
It was just completely like out of touch.
No, it wasn't for anyone anymore.
No, I mean, they really lost me when Barbara Palvin was their plus size.
Like that was the craziest.
If you are on your phone, just Google Barbara Palvin, Victoria Secret Fashion Show, and just know that she was the plus size.
But I also, I don't know,
I don't need them to completely copy and paste what other brands are doing and did better than them.
They obviously need to make changes, but they also do have something like it was at one point incredibly prestigious to be a Victoria's Secret angel.
And so many, I'm looking at all these pictures and like these women are icons.
So, like, no, and so many of the iconic supermodels of our time got started and got their recognition from Victoria's Secret.
Yeah, so
it was good,
it was great for many years.
And I don't even think people were so mad about the lack of body diversity in the beginning.
I think they were really justifiably angry at the lack of racial diversity.
It's like, why?
Literally, why?
And
I got the body thing and why they chose not to.
Like, they're selling a fantasy, a beauty standard.
Like, I got it.
But, like, okay.
Where are the black models?
Like, I understood that.
And then in the culture, they really started to shift to the body positivity movement and they refused to get on board.
And I feel like that's what really sunk them.
And then all these other brands, like Sports Illustrated, showed like you could still be like a fantasy and you could still give into this like thing without adhering to that, you know, anorexic body standard.
So it can be done.
And I think Sports Illustrated is a great example of how it can be done.
I agree.
So I'm open.
I just,
I don't know.
I hope it's still like, what was great about it, you know, is still intact.
It looks so fabulous.
The looks really were so awesome.
Like the musical performances and the star power.
I don't need to see a bunch of randos walking, but I,
you know what it is?
Why is it that like when a brand becomes like diverse in body or race, like then everything becomes low budget?
It's like, oh, we're doing stripped back, no makeup, nude undies.
Like, why can't you have like a chubby model with the glamour?
It's like when they decide to become body positive, it's all stripped back.
It's all stripped back.
No makeup.
We're showing everyone's pimples.
Why?
Why?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well,
I would say I think Savage X-Fenty does a great job of not.
And so,
you know, they're going to have to try and find a way to differentiate and not just act like they're copying them, like a knockoff.
But
yeah, why does it get stripped back?
I don't know, because then it's like.
We're being real.
It's not like a fantasy anymore.
I'm not going to be able to do it.
I'm going to be real.
Give me a plus-size fantasy.
Give me wings.
Give me glamour.
Give me big tits and ass.
Yeah.
Like why?
It's like, oh, now that everyone's included, budget is cut.
Like, what is that?
No, it's not that a budget is cut, but like,
if we're...
The aesthetic is stripped back.
Yeah, the aesthetic, you know, it's like
stripped back.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, what is that?
And then it's like, this sucks.
And that's why we never included body diversity.
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
So I feel like they could be more inclusive, keep it at this level that they were operating at yes but big glamour but I also I don't know if they will do that I feel like they might do a complete 180 and go for that like natural stripped vibe because they're they they like because they think that the whole thing was bad and right but it wasn't no and it's like why
why can't
inclusivity be glamorous and bold and big and fabulous and expensive.
No, we also have to feel like shit after watching the show.
Like, no, I get it.
You want to sell a fantasy?
You can include diversity in that fantasy.
It doesn't all have to be so raw and real and everyone's pubes are hanging out of the undies.
Like, come on.
Yeah.
And like, everyone is, you know, like a model off the street.
Like, give us the A-list or give us A-list.
Give us Ashley Graham.
Give it to us.
Yeah.
But I don't know.
I think they're going to have another problem with who wants to be associated.
They have to just whip out big bucks because, of course, a lot of these models, especially like Ashley Graham, are really scrupled.
Really principled and
everyone has a price
from victoria secret for years so she's like i don't know everyone has a price i'm not gonna come and save your brand you can go fuck yourself yes everyone has a price but i do feel like
there's still there there might not like i don't know that ash i don't know what her experience is with victoria secret but i feel like there are some things that some people can't be bought on like i'm sure even for you like there are things that you would never do yeah just scrupled i get it but i can be bought i do have a price i'd rather see you you up there shaking that thing.
A hundred percent, even though I actually can't think of anything on this planet, I'd rather do less than walk away.
Right down the road, 90s on television.
No, thanks.
Especially if it's going to be a stripped back, you know, no armpit waxing kind of thing.
It's going to be hard to galvanize a lot of people to throw their support behind this brand, including artists.
Yeah.
Who are probably going to wait to see like how people are feeling about Victoria's Secret.
But, you know, Victoria's Secret, and I get now why they are doing this five-year plan and why they didn't immediately bring back the show because they've been creating really long-term partnerships with a lot of people.
Haley Bieber is a face of Victoria's Secret.
They did a lot of, you know, TikTok or like I said, Remy.
They have these partnerships, and I'm sure these people are in their contracts going to do the show.
Interesting.
So it might already be stacked before they go out and try to pitch Ashley Graham.
And it'll be stacked with, like, their TikTok partnerships are Remy, who's obviously like body diversity, Exo Amira, who's trans and black.
So like they're doing the work, and that's why they didn't just start with.
Also, in hindsight, it's better this way because they skipped all those COVID years.
We didn't have to see some like sexy lace masks walking down the runway.
You're so right.
You know, you're so right.
So like it kind of worked out.
Let's sing in disguise.
Let's see in disguise.
Yeah.
We'll see.
That'll be interesting to watch.
I'm open.
Are you open turd?
Yeah, I mean, that used to be the highlight of my year.
Like literally in high school.
Oh my God, we were obsessed.
Yeah.
Like, even looking at these pictures, like, you forget how sickening it was.
I know.
And, like, we never even really got the Victoria Seeker fashion show with the, you know,
the new supermodel generation.
Like, Kendall walked in it once.
No, no, she walked in it more than once.
Really?
We did, yeah.
Kendall and Gigi are here.
Cara walk, like, with those supermodels.
Like, they got it in.
No, Cara, I don't consider.
Cara's a little older than.
But she's in that crew.
Yeah.
I feel like Kendall only walked in it once.
No, she like walked in in a few years.
She was like so little the first time.
And then I'm looking at a picture of her where she's like much more grown.
Let me look.
It was, it was really, say what you want about it, but it was a, it was a beautiful thing.
It was deeply problematic, but I remember loving it.
Even as like a chubby teenager, like I don't even think I really cared that there wasn't body diversity.
I just like like enjoyed the show and the singers and the beautiful women and like the celebrities in the front row.
Yeah.
She walked in it it three times.
Okay, thank you.
So
I'm wrong.
I wonder when it will be.
Yeah.
We shall see.
We shall see.
Are you ready for our next story?
Yeah.
It's a question of a story.
Can I ask you a question?
Why isn't Lady Gaga performing?
Hold my hand from Top Gun Maverick at the Oscars.
Oh, damn.
Yeah.
All of this year's nominees for Best Original Song at the Oscars have been confirmed for performance at the ceremony on March 12th this weekend, except for Lady Gaga's.
Oh, wait, the Oscars are this weekend?
Yeah.
I'm going to be on the plane.
That's a good place to watch them.
If they have cable, all these planes, they don't do cable anymore, except Jit Blue, direct TV.
Nobody else, you can just scroll through TV.
Like, it's annoying.
That is annoying.
No, if it's on the TV, that'd be great.
Yeah.
Gaga, who was deemed a frontrunner early in the race,
landed her fourth career nomination for a Top Gun Maverick song, Hold My Hand, but has yet to be confirmed for the show.
In the Oscars
tradition, all nominated songs are sung during the ceremony, and everybody else who's nominated this year will be singing.
Right now, Gaga is in the midst of filming Joker Fole Adou.
So perhaps the filming logistics are keeping her from announcing anything, but
right now she's not slated to perform.
The Oscars are in six days.
Doesn't mean that she won't perform.
Maybe she could pull something together, but to do rehearsals and musical and all that stuff.
It's unclear.
And that makes me sad.
That's devastating because that is such that was a big draw for me to be watching.
Me too, 100%.
Not only that.
There's like five draws, probably.
Yeah, Brendan Fraser,
Holdana, Rihanna, Lady Gaga.
The fact that I saw the menu Triangle of Sadness, like I've seen a few of the movies.
Oh, yeah, we tried.
But my journey ended with Triangle of Sadness.
Who's hosting?
Jimmy?
Jimmy.
Yeah.
For sure, Jimmy.
Enough with the Jimmies.
Oscars.
I need Lady Gaga to get this together.
Like, this is important.
It's a big night.
I know you already have an Oscar, so maybe you don't think it's like that big of a deal.
But like, girl, like, get it together.
It's Jimmy Kim.
It's Jimmy of the Kimmel variety.
In my humble opinion, the worst of the Jimmys.
There are so many.
Yeah, he's the worst, I think.
I would have preferred James Corden.
I'm like, I'm not a James Corden hater.
No, me neither.
Did you see Jamie Lee Curtis went on his show just to say how wonderful he is?
She's a doll.
I feel like the more we learn about her, she's really like in season right now.
Would you say Jamie Lee Lee Curtis, you are all of us?
I definitely would say, Jamie Lee Curtis, you are all of us.
That's what I would say.
Except, I don't know that all of us feel that way about James Gordon, but I like when someone gets so much hate, like I weirdly start to like I always start to like them.
You know, I just start to want to
just not hate as much.
You want to know why?
And we were saying this to each other last week on FaceTime.
I feel like every day we do the show and the moral of the story is that people are so unwell.
And then we come out here and people are like, that's such such a bad take, Claudia and Jackie.
And it's like, oh, coming from you, I know I'm right.
If everyone is disagreeing with us, I feel even more cemented in my, my opinions because people are so dumb and unwell.
And I don't want to be the same opinion as everyone else.
No, and
it's at this point.
It's a pretty accurate Richter scale.
It's like, what do y'all think?
Okay, I think the opposite.
Yeah.
So, oh, everyone hates James Corden?
Must be a great guy.
Yeah.
So I thought that was really sweet of Jamie Lee Curtis because she's so beloved.
And so she went on his show and she said, you know why I'm here?
I'm just here to tell you that I think you're so great and you're such a wonderful person and i just wanted to say that i'm like i'm gonna miss you your show's ending and so i'm like i'm moved on with james gordon i'm ready like me too for whatever like if he wanted was to host something i'd be here for it if he wants to be in another movie i wouldn't let it stop me from seeing it yeah james 2.0 i'm here for it yeah my phone is just like
vibrating.
I'm just like so popular.
I'm so sorry.
It's hard to be so popular.
I put my phone on you not to serve every time we podcast.
I do.
And I do it all the the time, but then once in a while, I'll get a call that I needed to answer during the show or something.
You know what I mean?
So
just you can't win.
You can't win when you're like a world-renowned podcaster.
Yeah.
But our fifth and final story.
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Jackson Mahomes has been accused of assault by restaurant owner and waiter.
Jackson Mahomes, the popular social media figure and brother of Super Bowl winning quarterback Patrick Mahomes, no relation to Austin Mahomes, Jackie, is being investigated by police in Kansas after alleged assaults of a restaurant owner and waiter last weekend, according to a report Saturday by the Kansas City Star.
The Kansas City Star is making a lot of news here at the toast.
Yes, you're right.
Mahomes, 22, allegedly forcibly kissed the 40-year-old owner and shoved a 19-year-old waiter more than once, the owner and waiter told the publication.
The incidents occurred last Saturday at Aspen's restaurant and lounge in Overland Park, just outside of Kansas City.
Vaughn alleges Mahomes grabbed her by the throat and kissed her at least twice in her basement office at the restaurant.
She said Mahomes' advances were unwelcome and shocking.
She believes Mahomes was intoxicated.
She provided video of the incident to the star and local police.
The video is on Instagram.
You can see it at the Kansas City Star's Instagram.
She also provided a photograph showing a bruise on her neck after the interaction.
Quote, he forcibly kissed me out of nowhere, she said, and I'm telling him, pushing him off, saying, what are you doing?
And then he proceeded to do it two more times where the last time I was pushing him off and I can see on the cameras that somebody was outside the office door and I was yelling for them to come help because he's big and massive.
The waiter told the star he was pushed out of office.
out of the office by Mahomes.
Mahomes' lawyer provided a statement to USA Today Sports about the allegations, quote, we have provided law enforcement with the tools and evidence they need to evaluate the claims against Jackson.
Every interaction between people needs to be placed in the proper context.
Releasing a short clip of any video does not provide proper context.
We have a lot of statistical.
It's literally the video, you see everything.
No, yeah, that's a true statement.
Releasing a short clip of a video sometimes doesn't have like the whole context, but like what context is there for like
forcibly kissing someone who's in like you don't know and having your hands on their neck and she's reporting saying like I don't fucking want this from you right And taking pictures of her bruises.
We have faith in the process and look forward to a swift revolution of the matter, resolution of the matter.
This is really disappointing because I feel like during the Super Bowl, I was like trying to defend Jackson Holmes.
I'm like, he gets so much hate.
He doesn't do anything.
And now he's here being a fucking animal.
We were rooting for you.
We were all rooting for you.
The video is really upsetting.
Like, it's very vulgar.
It's very like
aggressive.
And
what a fucking ass wipe.
Like,
this is just like, you know, he thinks, like, his shit doesn't stink.
His brother just won the Super Bowl.
He doesn't have to work.
Like, I just,
and what's so sad is I think his brother Patrick is like a really great guy, you know?
Like, he married his high school sweetheart and he is a kid now and he works so hard and he's very humble.
And just to like work so hard and like really become so famous and so successful, to have your asshole brother like be destroying your family name, it must be really upsetting.
Yeah, it is really upsetting.
I don't know what tools and evidence Jackson's team can provide that would change any of this
because it's seriously disturbing.
And
are Patrick and Jackson like close?
Like, yeah, he's always on the field and like.
He goes to every game, flies with Patrick, like does everything.
Yeah.
No, he needs to learn several lessons because this is abhorrent.
It's abhorrent behavior.
You can't go over it.
It's abhorrent behavior.
I hope there's like no...
I hope like the police pursue these charges like to the fullest extent, not only so that he learns his lesson, but also so that he doesn't like use his privilege to,
you know, get out of this and just get a slap on the wrists.
Like he is a deeply troubled young boy.
Yeah.
This is a crazy fucking thing to do.
And you do it when you think you run the world.
And it's like, you don't, by the way, you are in the place that you're in because of your brother, not you.
You haven't accomplished shit in your life, asshole.
Like, oh my God, this video like really made my blood boil.
Like, and you know what?
I'm so glad she had the video
released so that you can't just it's not just like he said she said and and we don't know we weren't there like there is video it looks extremely clear yeah what happened
yeah
well he's gross literally gross nobody wants to kiss you stay the fuck away yeah
oh my god this is really upsetting I thought everyone was wrong about him.
I was wrong.
I don't know.
I feel like you've been anti.
I feel like you were actually right about him.
Like, I feel like you tried to combat your own anti-ness because, like, you felt bad he was getting so much hate.
He was getting so much hate.
And at the end of the day, like, he was just guilty at that point of being cringe and like being a loser.
And that's not a crime.
No.
But this is.
This is a fucking crime.
And I was wrong.
And you know what?
What everyone saw, they were right.
I was wrong.
That's what I get for trying to give people the benefit of the doubt.
Won't happen again.
Those are the past five.
I feel like you definitely needed to know like all of them.
Definitely.
Absolutely.
Definitely.
Absolute moi.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Positrutely.
For sure.
For sure.
For sure.
So that's our show.
It's our second and
second to last episode of the week.
So reminder that tomorrow is our last episode of the week regular because I am headed to Portugal tomorrow night.
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So if you're a Patreon member, you won't really feel, you won't feel much.
Yeah.
We already have one in the can.
Yeah.
So it it was a good one.
It was a good one.
That'll be up Thursday.
And then today, Turdi and I are getting together again for Friday's episode.
So.
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