To Mix Or Not To Mix: Wednesday, February 8th, 2023

1h 11m
  • Inside the ‘Rampant Culture of Sex’ at ABC News (Page Six) (17:13)
  • Julia Louis-Dreyfus First Podcast Gleans Life Lessons From Women Over 70 (Variety) (27:54)
  • Why Adam Devine Decided To Speak Out Amid Adam Levine Scandal (E! News) (32:21)
  • Meghan Markle, Prince Harry to be Deposed in Samantha’s Defamation Case (Page Six) (42:09)
  • Jaden Hossler and Stassi Karanikolaou Share A Kiss As They Go Instagram Official (People) (47:55)
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    Good morning, millennials, and welcome back to the toast.

    Happy Wednesday.

    It is Hump Day and episode 9, 9, 9.

    $9.99.

    Plus, it's Hump Day.

    Plus, we've got the Stry Guys.

    And no, you're not confused.

    You're not.

    There was a switcheroo.

    There was.

    I have thrice.

    You do.

    Claudia has Bryce.

    I do.

    It's just kind of the way that the chips fell.

    And we're always saying it's so important to let the chips fall where they may, you know?

    And this is how they felt today.

    And I think it's always great to keep things fresh and exciting.

    And let the chips.

    And let the stry sands fall where they may.

    You know what chips is making me think?

    Lunch.

    Lunch.

    You know what?

    I hadn't thought.

    It hadn't entered my brain yet, but now you're going to make me so hungry.

    It's never like not in my brain, you know?

    Yeah.

    Just that we should start thinking about what we want to have for lunch today, you know?

    Yeah.

    Like if you have any ideas, just like shout them out.

    I will.

    I definitely, I definitely will.

    Even though you barely ate your lunch yesterday, barely it was gross it was gross but you were also like not even hungry anymore it was gross because we had mac and cheese because we ate harry's mac and cheese it was so good harry is the best food oh you wouldn't that's the only thing of harry's you yeah actually sometimes i look at harry's plate i'm like this is child abuse like hummus

    like salmon paste it's so organic and disgusting like honestly justice for harry But then it gets mac and cheese.

    You know, once I saw he, I opened the fridge and then, you know, today I saw a big stock pile of

    schnitzel, some breaded chicken.

    You could have that for lunch.

    And I I thought, is that for Harry?

    Is that for me?

    Because there's no way Harry can eat all of that before it goes back.

    Schnitzel for 40.

    It's a gallon bag, like a Ziploc bag, full of schnitzel.

    There must be 25 pieces in there.

    Yeah, no, it's for you and Harry.

    He'll have some schnitzel for lunch.

    And

    I think that's our lunch plan.

    I mean, I did have schnitzel for dinner

    and it gave me diarrhea.

    So I'll just have to be cautious.

    Maybe your schnitzel is different.

    Maybe.

    Hopefully.

    Is it gonna stop me?

    No.

    No.

    Let's talk about today.

    We've got really like bottom-of-the-barrel the barrel crap.

    So the stories actually like in themselves aren't that bad, but like it took us a really long time to source them.

    And you know, if it were a different day, some of these stories would not have made the cut.

    They're crap.

    Okay.

    We're just setting expectations.

    But I find that those make the best episodes.

    And it's Wednesday.

    So we have three toasters in dire straits in need of our help.

    So it sounds like it's going to be like a pretty stunning episode, a wickedly talented one, if I do say so myself.

    For $9.99, it better be.

    You would hope that we've learned the trade.

    Yeah, so it's $9.99.

    Tomorrow, that means is our 1000th episode.

    And I can't wait to, you know, take care of myself on my 1000th episode.

    Yeah.

    We're really excited for this really big milestone.

    Oh, and some of you guys might know this already, but we also did a Patreon episode yesterday.

    It's a video and audio podcast episode.

    If you're bored today and you need more content, patreon.com slash to toast.

    We're doing one of our favorite installments where we just endlessly complain about the dumb moronic shit our spouses do.

    We had a lot of really good submissions from people that

    people submitted what their husband does and then we all sort of like commit.

    Really, you know, we just all talk about our personal experience.

    Every once in a while, we're like, that's not that bad.

    Right.

    Or I have no experience with that.

    Yeah.

    That's rare, though.

    And then I'm grateful.

    And then so you're feeling on the one hand, like really bitter.

    And then you also come away feeling a little grateful.

    It's kind of therapeutic.

    So if you're looking for some sort of outlet today, I highly recommend tuning into that episode on our Patreon.

    Yeah.

    And there's video and it's just really fun.

    And then I actually did three podcasts yesterday.

    Podcast, podcast, podcast.

    It'll be out next week.

    I'm just going to tell you guys.

    Do it.

    Why not?

    What was the first one?

    The toast.

    The second one, Patreon.

    The third one, good guys.

    You guys, I'm a good girl and I'm going on good guys.

    I heard that the good guys were not ready for the good girl that came out.

    I know.

    I don't think they were ready for me.

    I think they were expecting a little girl.

    But then they got a good girl.

    Yeah, I don't think they were ready for me.

    But like Josh and I were talking a lot about like parenthood and really the joys of it.

    because i feel like these days it's like cool to like trash kids yeah which i i feel like for and i said this on the show i feel like for so long you know you didn't talk about the like hard parts hard parts of parenthood you're just like it's a joy yeah it's a blessing So it's nice that people like finally are being honest.

    Yeah.

    And, you know, like things that were taboo are no longer taboo, but I do feel like the pendulum has swung a little far where it's like, we kind of now only talk about the torture.

    Yeah.

    And we've forgotten a lot of the joy.

    The joy.

    Well, that sounds beautiful.

    It was really beautiful.

    Jackie, that's beautiful.

    And Josh was like sharing tips and tricks for like dads how they can really step up to the plate and not

    be just like these useless oaths that they are capable of being.

    No, by the way, and coming off the heels of recording episode number two for you, which was, you know, how men are useless.

    Right.

    That must have been really refreshing to hear.

    And I hope Ben absorbs some of that.

    And I really understood why they are the good guys.

    They are the good guys.

    Yeah, no, Ben is ready whenever you are.

    And I said, of course you are.

    You don't have to do anything i literally at dinner last night with the shapiros i was like if ben could carry these children we would have six right like no no no no no all of a sudden he wouldn't be so ready right all of a sudden he wouldn't be so ready right i'm not feeling ready right

    right

    right bitch i'm like you carry you do the breastfeeding like you get fat hunt i will support you i'm ready i'm ready

    i take your time sweetheart yeah sure sure sure yeah

    yeah oh i feel better yeah yeah.

    Shut up.

    So that sounds like an exciting day.

    I read the dumbest book.

    It was called Scandalized.

    You need to stop reading dumb.

    No, because with my book club, now I'm like...

    You get one smart a month.

    Right.

    So in between, I'm like reading dumb shit.

    Fine, fine.

    And like, if you're going to read the Midnight Library next.

    Which is, which is up next for me.

    Which is thought-provoking.

    And I'm like, I had to read Scandalized before.

    Yeah, you needed an amuse bouche.

    I amuse in my bouche.

    And after I read like a dumb smut book, I'm like, I really should be doing better things with my time.

    And then it's like, I'm primed and ready for my book club book.

    Okay.

    It's kind of like an amazing system I have here.

    I gave the book two stars.

    It was bad.

    It's a great text.

    It's really bad.

    I know.

    It was just like short and it wasn't bad, but like it had quite literally no substance and like not even good smut.

    It was like, it was giving me PG-13.

    It's like, how dare?

    I didn't open up this Kindle for PG-13.

    And who recommended it?

    I don't want to drag her, but it was from a recommendation posted on Instagram by one of of our queens, Liz Height.

    Oh shit.

    I thought it was the snitch.

    No, but the snitch sent me the screenshot from Liz Heights.

    But in Liz's defense, it was just she'd gathered from her audience.

    She didn't read it herself.

    It's so scary to do that.

    So many times I'll do like these Q ⁇ As, like tell me what vibe you're looking for in a book, and

    I will give you a recommendation.

    And there are so many times when it's like, here's a book that I know is that vibe.

    I just haven't read it yet, but I will not recommend a book that I haven't read.

    And I was actually getting to a place where it's like, you know what?

    I think I actually might just like start throwing in books I haven't read.

    But after this experience you've had,

    maybe I won't.

    Well, let me tell you how I'm constantly recommending books to people that I haven't read, but that you've read.

    Oh, okay.

    And I've said good things.

    Yeah, no, and I just like lie and pretend like I'm really smart.

    That's fine.

    I would recommend a book to someone that you've read.

    Like I always recommend things we never in which to get over.

    Things we never in which to get over, yeah.

    By Lucy Score, even though I haven't read it.

    But you don't want to read like I do.

    No, I say Claudia and Margot love this book.

    It's like their favorite smut book of the year.

    It's, it's going viral.

    Like if that's what you're looking for, you should.

    Where's the sequel?

    You should read that.

    Where's the sequel?

    You know, I lie and I'm like, oh my God, this book was like amazing.

    I feel like so you.

    And with the crawdads, like I'm always talking about like I read the book just because I saw the movie.

    Yeah.

    Well, crawdads is something you should recommend to like anyone who's a reader.

    That's like a real reader.

    That's not me.

    No, no, but like maybe some of your friends.

    Yeah.

    Perhaps.

    So I'm excited to get into it today.

    Anything else we need to discuss?

    We still haven't really kind of finalized plans for our thousandth episode.

    We've got a lot of good recommendations, like nothing I was really like dying to do.

    There's a lot of cute stuff.

    Yeah.

    I just want to get like emotional, you know?

    Yeah.

    There was some cute stuff.

    Wait, I saw something that was like palatable.

    Yeah.

    A lot of people said, you know, reflecting on our first episode.

    A lot of people said reflecting on like our favorite moments, our favorite stories.

    And be like, do you know my memory?

    I know.

    I know.

    It's so hard for us.

    I don't have the capacity.

    Once the show wraps, the second we say goodbye, goodbye, everything we just said has left my brain.

    I think that's how I process, you know.

    Oh, this is what I liked.

    Toast trivia, where we each come up with a set of questions from previous episodes as a fun way to remember.

    Like, what was your, like, you know, something like,

    this would be a really easy button.

    Like, how did I describe the

    squeeze girl who does the both sides?

    Yeah.

    Yeah.

    Okay.

    Okay.

    That's cute.

    You could put some together for me.

    I could put some together for you.

    Okay.

    Maybe like five and five.

    Okay.

    I feel like that's cute.

    That's cute.

    Or what was I wearing on the day Jackie choked?

    Oh, that's not the show.

    Oh, right.

    That's not my plate.

    This is not my plate.

    Or like, what did you wear when derek pets came on the show my wedding dress well just the veil and then some ugly top shop shirt yeah top shop shirt top shop shirt and then like what about like who's your least favorite guest oh you know what people always ask me that and i don't really have an answer but then the other day i remembered my answer i i do and i wasn't afraid to say it but now i can't remember Or is she afraid?

    No, no.

    Cause really like we don't have that many guests.

    So like there's like if someone's coming.

    We've had so many over the years, we probably have have had 100 guests yeah there was someone i remembered it the other day

    shit it'll come to me i'll tell you guys i was it was something that i was like oh yeah i could share that like either i've beef with this person i don't know where it's like they just were bad and they're a good person but like this wasn't the format for them yeah i think actually that happens a lot because we're so niche pop culture and like we want to have people on and they want to come on but if they don't do pop culture well that's different for hosting yeah that's something i actually experienced ran into a little bit when i was casting for your maternity leave there were so many people that wanted to come on they're like i don't do pop culture and like at first i was like okay but then i was like

    you gotta you gotta you gotta so no hard feelings but like no yeah

    i understand um so that's it for me okay we'll keep thinking about ideas but i think mostly it's again just gonna be a lot of sitting and reflecting um looking forward and Looking back.

    And then being able to call it like our thousandth episode and then being able to go around and say, oh, we've done 1,000 episodes.

    What have you done?

    You know, what did you you do today because i recorded my thousandth episode of my podcast the toast and then on friday we'll be like oh and i recorded 1001 yeah willing

    you know what's so sad

    is that on friday we won't be together we won't be together and that's really hard i'm being asked to leave

    I just, I have guessed, my house has, for the last two weeks, been like a revolving door.

    Nice.

    Kind of like a B and B.

    And I do make breakfast on the weekends.

    You do.

    Okay, you made breakfast once.

    Twice, bitch.

    Twice.

    I made the spread when my friends were here.

    And then I made your ass chocolate chip muffins.

    She did.

    She did.

    And I made eggs and hash browns.

    Tater tops.

    So sorry.

    Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    So I'm really glad that you remembered that.

    No, no, I did.

    I ate another one of the muffins yesterday.

    How could I forget?

    They're the muffins I keep on giving.

    They're so good.

    They actually get better with time.

    Okay, that's dramatic.

    But no, they really do.

    They get like

    firmer.

    No.

    Not bouncy, but like spongy.

    Spongy.

    Spongy.

    Oh, God.

    Yeah, so I'm being asked to leave tomorrow.

    and

    tomorrow I will leave.

    Oh, that's tomorrow.

    Yeah.

    That's sad.

    Yeah.

    I didn't think about it as tomorrow, tomorrow,

    I love ya, tomorrow.

    You said do you're only

    a day

    away

    tomorrow, tomorrow,

    I love ya, tomorrow,

    you're only

    a day.

    I feel like that was really pleasant.

    What do you think?

    Pleasant.

    I think that's the perfect word.

    Like it wasn't painful.

    No, it wasn't incredible.

    No, but you hit the notes.

    I hit the notes.

    The vocal fry was at a minimum.

    The notes were hit.

    The fry was minimized.

    It was pleasant.

    I think for tomorrow's show, it should be be just in the face of everyone who says, like, if you guys don't stop singing, you're going to lose listeners.

    Like, it's so annoying.

    We should sing the whole show.

    That really works for me.

    Yeah.

    Lact,

    I'd love to sing.

    Are you ready to get into the rest of the show?

    Only if we can sing for the rest of the show.

    I don't know if I can do the ads while I sing because then

    they'll be 10 minutes long.

    And they'll say that's not what we paid for.

    100%.

    But you could write a jingle.

    I feel like we're constantly writing jingles for brands.

    That's like a fun fact about if you buy an ad on the show, like you might just get a free jingle.

    Yeah, that's what we in the industry call added value.

    Yeah.

    We're just like adding value to what you're paying us to do.

    It's kind of gorgeous.

    We're really like increasing our value in the market.

    And in these tough economic times, you've got to be differentiating.

    You're cutting yourself apart.

    You really have to show these brands how you are going to work for them and how you are passionate about their brand.

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    Our first story.

    Inside the rampant culture of sex at ABC News.

    What?

    Quote, everyone was sleeping around.

    Is that GMA?

    That's GMA.

    That's TJ and Amy.

    Multiple former employees say there is a, quote, rampant culture of sex at ABC News.

    After ousted GMA3 co-angers TJ Holmes and Amy Robak's marriage and career

    torpedoing affair made headlines late last year, it was revealed that Holmes allegedly engaged in at least three other workplace romances, two of which were with junior staffers.

    Yikes.

    One of those junior staffers spoke names

    alias Sasha.

    So she's saying anonymous.

    Spoke to the cut anonymously for an expose published Tuesday confirming what a well-placed source implied in an interview with Page 6 last month, that Holmes and Sasha, a then-associate producer in her mid-20s, would have sex in his office.

    Our source described Holmes as being in a position of power over her, but Sasha told the cut she didn't even think about the power dynamics at the time because the network's nightly program on which they both worked was a pretty scandalous place.

    Though she'd heard rumors that certain women had been promoted after having affairs with executives, she said she was left heartbroken and feeling like a throwaway object when Holmes, who apparently had shown a crazy amount of interest in her initially, left the overnight show to focus on GMA.

    Her feelings were amplified after news of his other affairs broke.

    It was just a pattern, she admitted to the outlet, adding that she thought she was special.

    Additionally, Sasha claimed that the executives are more protective of the company's reputation than they are of their staffers.

    Yeah, no, it's funny how TJ Holmes was fired, not for this, but for having an affair with someone who's of age and can consent and that's like equal power.

    No, these like tawdry affairs with young staffers were fine with young people.

    Yeah, and this rampant culture of sex that apparently everybody knows about that just like is, and that's also like the kind of culture that Matt Lauer that we like the media is rallying against right no it's it honestly it's like with the Matt Lauer thing when we all found out we were like what the fuck with the button under his desk and people were like no if you worked there like you knew like he was crazy like young girls were like told not to go near him like so everyone knows nobody talks about it and it's like they're all also advocating against this everybody also acts shocked right when things come out but if you work there you're like you're lying and i just think it's so funny how like gm not funny but like moronic how gma like released so many statements about this affair with amy and like made a whole thing about it made an example of him doing an investigation but it's like all these other things are going on and they're never investigating any of that and that's like something worthy worthy of investigating his relationship with amy is like the least interesting thing about him but you know what people would call it irrelevant performative of course that's exactly what people call it because it's exactly what it is yeah muronic Met Lauer was NBC right

    yes like this isn't like an ABC problem it's like like a media problem.

    Yeah, a media problem and like a newsroom problem where everyone's just like getting sexy.

    No, like I could, I could see how like, you know, late nights, early mornings, traveling, like it can,

    and that's fine, but not when, you know, one person is like much older in a position of power with like a junior staffer who's just like doing her rest.

    Yeah.

    And also not when it's going to lead to either promotions or firings if you're having an affair.

    Right.

    But if it's two consenting adults

    on the same level.

    Yeah, but it's like the rules for, you know, inter-office relationships have become so strict ever since like

    me too era where it's like, you know, someone higher and someone lower like could a date or have a relationship.

    And it's like, in certain instances, they're like a little too strict where it's like, what about a budding romance?

    But it's like, but stuff like this goes on.

    Stuff like this happens.

    Yeah.

    And it's like, but why can't those two people who like actually are in a relationship, like just be together, even though like one's technically the boss?

    No, like those HR rules are meant to implement like and protect people, but the people, like the predators almost, like they don't care about your HR rules, you know?

    Yeah.

    So you're only affecting like the good intended people.

    No, but it's not even like predators.

    It's just like,

    it's almost like an over-correction to a problem that is like still rampant.

    And it's like the only

    people who are like following the rules are people who would be like in a relationship and like want to do things right, but they can't be.

    And then everyone else is like still having sex on the side.

    Totally.

    Well, I guess it's for the best then that he wasn't brought back because he seems to be quite problematic.

    Yeah, I guess so.

    And so, like we said, maybe that's why

    they actually fired him.

    The investigation found more.

    But what about Amy?

    Yeah, that ain't right.

    Right.

    That's kind of rude.

    Right.

    But they're still together, so.

    So it's love.

    I guess.

    This is love.

    Like the way I felt about the story in the beginning, the way I feel about it now, like, ew, you know?

    Yeah.

    I just, like, don't think it's of ABC News as like a sexy place.

    So no, I don't.

    So when you hear there's like a rampant culture of sex.

    I find it shocking.

    Yeah.

    Because I feel like if you work in like early morning or late night news.

    Like morning breath.

    Morning breath, but then like you, you know, you stop.

    Coffee breath.

    Maybe week one, you're looking gorgeous, but like eventually you just roll out of bed to get to work.

    Like you have five minutes.

    Roll out of bed and stumble to the kitchen.

    Right.

    Pour yourself a cup of ambition.

    You're not like, you know, being glamorous.

    It's like you work at Cosmo and you can roll in at nine.

    Yeah.

    You're up at four.

    Yeah.

    So again, I agree.

    I don't see it as like this kind kind of beacon of sexiness.

    Maybe that's just me.

    You never know.

    It's going down.

    Maybe that's just us.

    Maybe that's just us because we don't have a rampant culture of sex here at the toast.

    I mean, the brethren might disagree.

    That's true.

    I mean, we do celebrate humpty quite voraciously.

    Right.

    Are we kind of like this sexy business?

    Do we have a rampant sexual culture here?

    I'll have to talk to Ben.

    Why?

    Because he's a part of our business, like our culture.

    No, this is the business.

    The four of us?

    Yeah.

    Okay.

    And I think things are pretty workplace appropriate.

    Safe.

    Yeah.

    We make jokes, sure.

    Sure.

    Without a crime.

    No, I mean, honestly, like, thank God that you are my sister.

    Because, like, if you weren't, I wouldn't be able to say half the shit I said.

    Imagine if you had like a hot male co-host.

    Co-host.

    I would love that.

    Oh, my God.

    It would be a, I see how these things happen.

    It would be a workplace that's rampant with sexual, whatever they said.

    Culture of sex.

    Yeah.

    Um, and sexual attention.

    That'd be me.

    Did you see?

    I don't know why this is segueing to this.

    They're making a documentary about HQ.

    I did.

    Oh, oh, oh, oh,

    oh,

    oh,

    oh.

    Oh, thank you so much.

    I don't care.

    When people ask me who the worst guest we've ever had on the toast is, Thank you, Jackie.

    It is Scott Rogowski.

    He didn't come on the toast.

    He came on the breath.

    It still counts.

    And it was at the peak of HQ.

    And I never met a bigger dick in my life.

    Like, he could not be wasting his time with two irrelevant uglies like us.

    He was on.

    Look at us now, Scott.

    Yeah.

    He was on his way to stardom, and we were just mere ants under his foot.

    Like, he was so fucking rude and so condescending and so holier than now.

    And it was so clear that, like, everything that was happening was going right to his head.

    Yeah.

    And you could tell in the interview, because I remember the comments were like, whoa.

    We should go back and find that interview.

    He was so fucking rude.

    Yeah.

    So he's my least favorite guest.

    And now, knowing, you know, having personal interest in the matter, I honestly don't know if I would believe anything he says in the documentary.

    And

    I'm so glad you brought this up.

    Wait.

    Okay.

    I follow this girl on TikTok and she's like pretty popular.

    She's like, here's, you know, day in the life as a working actress who's not famous.

    Like I, she's like, I work all the time.

    I do like commercials.

    Nobody knows who I am, but like I make a living off of being an actor.

    People learn a lot of things about acting in the industry and sag.

    And apparently she was the backup co-host.

    I don't remember her.

    Like if Scott couldn't do it, it was her.

    And then when Scott left, she filled in and she made a TikTok being like, how can they make a documentary?

    And like literally didn't even ask me to be a part of it so now i'm feeling like literally scott like championed this documentary well so the trailer for the documentary came out and it focuses on like the founders scott maybe some other people that worked there and the success of the show and i had like so many thoughts first like scott like starts to say how the founders were you know interested in having a successful company and then they were maybe a little like jealous that he was the face of their company sure scott sure

    uh and then they also were like saying how you know from the beginning, the sowing like this discord between the founders and how like one founder wanted this and one founder wanted that.

    And then they grow so fast and they

    die.

    And they couldn't like build it fast enough, blah, blah, blah and like if there was beef between the founders like okay that's not why HQ flopped like no HQ flopped because like that's what happens to flashes in the pan

    flash and then they burn out Wordle yeah like everyone every morning for one week played Wordle and now people I play it sometimes like it's not something everyone does it every morning and shares.

    It's like just a game now.

    It's like, yeah, like any other game that you play on your phone.

    Like, right.

    And HQ, like, you can only really get people hooked on an app for so long that has so many problems before people stop playing.

    Yeah, it wasn't even the problems.

    It was just like.

    we played and now we're on to the next big thing.

    Like, that's how the internet works, especially for like small things.

    It's not like it's an app that you could spend your whole day on.

    Like, it was every five minutes and then people moved on with their lives.

    Yeah, no, a documentary, I don't think, is in order here.

    No, like so they're going to like

    expose, you know and explain why hq didn't work out but hq didn't work out because it was never going to work out because like when you rise so quickly like you fall so quickly that's just it and it's also just the nature of the game like

    but i am so glad you brought that up because

    first of all i don't even know if i ever would watch this documentary because like literally who cares no it's like literally i don't like i don't need to explore like the h like what one month in pop culture right like so not that i was like ever and so inclined to watch it but i i can't now because knowing what i know about scott he was so like egotistical and him saying that like the founders were jealous that he became the fame it's like well if they wanted to be the face they would have it's literally they literally could have hipped you to the curb at any minute right and they would have started hosting like question mark it's nice to see that scott hasn't changed he's literally my nemesis and he doesn't even know it he was so rude like he made me feel so small physically because he was so tall but like he was just so like

    Ugh, I hated him.

    Yeah.

    I'm going to go back and find that episode where he was so fucking rude.

    I could have told you.

    Yeah.

    He wouldn't stand the test of time.

    Yeah.

    I wonder if he's Helmacho now irrelevant.

    What's he up to?

    Check his Instagram.

    Making a documentary about his five minutes of fame.

    Literally.

    Tell me you're a narcissist without telling me you're a narcissist.

    Well, he didn't make the documentary.

    Like someone was

    4-HQ.

    It seemed like it was honestly directed by Scott Rogowski.

    Well, that's because he's the face of it, don't you know?

    Are you ready for our next story?

    Yeah.

    Which is really some wonderful podcasting news.

    Julia Louis Dreyfus's first podcast will glean life lessons from women over 70.

    Is she hosting it?

    She is hosting it.

    It is called Wiser Than Me, and Julia Louis Dreyfus, who is 62, will have candid and witty conversations with women over 70, according to podcast network Leymanada Media.

    I like that.

    Which is producing the show.

    It will be a 10-part series slated to be released in the spring of 2023, including, you know, notable over 70 women.

    She said in a statement, Julia Louis, and in our culture, older women are rarely seen or heard.

    What a shame.

    We are missing out on the wisdom and experiences of a huge portion of the population.

    I want to hear from these older women.

    I want to talk to them.

    I want to know how they navigate aging and their tips for a life well lived, how they did it, how they do it, and everything in between.

    These are the conversations I will explore in my new podcast, Wiser Than Me.

    I like that.

    It's hard to separate yourself as an interviewer, as a podcaster, especially when you're just like a celebrity and everyone has one.

    So like to kind of niche yourself into like older women.

    I like that.

    And it's true.

    Like we don't listen listen to the, to the older generations enough.

    No, definitely not.

    And normal.

    Especially not older women.

    Right.

    When it's like we have everything to learn from them.

    They know everything.

    They know everything.

    I mean, that one episode we did with Norma Kamali, like we were obsessed.

    Yeah.

    Just so much wisdom being shared.

    And I think this is such a great idea.

    I mean, the thing, the part about like how their tips for aging, like, I'm not really interested.

    And I do find that to be like, so

    maybe they'll find like a different way to talk about it but it's like aging is a part of a natural part of life and that's something that should be like so circumvented you know there's that old saying like yeah getting old is hard but the alternative is worse yeah but i think maybe what she was trying to say is like not dealing with like here's not like giving tips on like how to you know skincare but like i think maybe for women it's like um it's emotional

    Maybe she means like how to deal with, you know, if your whole life, like your values put on your looks.

    And then when you start to get older, people start to dismiss you.

    That's what I'm saying.

    Like, I think she'll come at it from a different angle not like what it's hard to use yeah no because that's like it like minimizes women yeah and jld's not like that no she's not like that i hope she has mae musk yeah i i'm i was trying to think like who are inspirational women over 70

    is like a really specific number she has jane fonda oh as one writer isabelle allenday

    and photographer fran libowitz oh and chef and author roof ruth reichel i don't know much about fran libowitz but every time you look at what about the one who's similar Annie Leibowitz.

    And I don't really know what...

    No, I was looking for Fran.

    Fran's perfect.

    Yeah, I don't really know like what Fran Leibowitz does or like what her spot in our culture is, but every time I like read something that she's written or like watch an interview of her, I'm obsessed.

    Author, public speaker, and occasional actor.

    She's known for her sardonic social commentary on American life as filtered through her New York City sensibilities.

    No, she's

    like when you hear her speak, she's like, she's on the money.

    I wish she could have had Queen Elizabeth on.

    That would have been beautiful.

    I would love to hear her tips on aging.

    Would love to hear her tips on life.

    On everything.

    Yeah, most.

    Actually, I feel like, you know, a lot of her experience is not relatable.

    And, you know, I would love to hear like tips on motherhood.

    Yeah.

    Balancing, you know, work and life.

    Right.

    Even though, like, I don't know, I think that's a good idea.

    Not necessarily from Queen Elizabeth because like she would admit that she put work ahead of life and motherhood.

    Like isn't that what Charles is always complaining about?

    Right.

    Classic Charles.

    Classic.

    Did you see that?

    They've set a date for his coronation day.

    It's coronation day.

    It is.

    I'm so excited.

    When is it?

    I don't know, but they set a date.

    Can't wait.

    It's like in a long time.

    Can't wait.

    He's going to perform.

    Not even for Charles to be coronated.

    Like, I'll be fine, but just like to see the

    band back together again.

    Band back together.

    Obviously, the Waleses, who have been like extra cute recently.

    I think they've had to step up their game.

    They've also been like extra quiet.

    Yeah, but like they've been, you know, like.

    I guess they're, they're always super cute, but like they're in their matching outfits and like they've been putting out really cute pictures, which is like, that's their job and that's what they do.

    But I do feel like it's to combat, silently combat the negativity, negativity.

    Yeah.

    Um,

    so check this out, wiser than me.

    I will.

    I actually will probably tune into the friendly woods episode.

    Yeah.

    And she's got to get Mang Musk.

    I'm sorry.

    Yeah.

    Like, how do you raise a boy genius?

    Let us know.

    And then, like, also, you know, have like a second coming of a career after 16.

    And be a model.

    Right.

    Are you ready for our next story?

    Yeah.

    Why Adam Devine decided to speak out amid the Adam Levine scandal?

    He decided?

    Despite I don't know what I said, so I'm not going to combat you.

    It was a big, it was a mouthful.

    You want to say it again?

    No?

    Okay.

    In the midst of Adam Levine's cheating scandal last September, Adam Devine shared a social media post clarifying that he was not, in fact, the singer at the center of the allegations.

    As Devine recently explained, his public quip only came after being a big case of mistaken identity.

    I wouldn't say it's like a big case of mistaken identity.

    Are you okay?

    There's a lot of words.

    I would say, like, this is funny, but I don't know if people are like actually confusing him.

    I do think like

    Rachel Ray, Rachel Roy.

    Yeah, yeah.

    That was actually like confusing.

    People didn't know who Rachel Roy was.

    So they went to their like first Rachel Ray, where it's like, Adam Levine is more famous than Adam Devine.

    I'm not always thinking of Adam Devine when I mean to be thinking of Adam Levine.

    I'm actually never.

    But this is what he said.

    He went on caller daddy and he said, I would never, I'm not big in inserting myself into someone else's drama.

    I'm like, this guy is already going through it.

    And so I was steering clear.

    Respect.

    Then he said, I was getting so many people that were just DMing me, being like, how fucking dare you?

    And then you look at their page and I'm like, this person does not follow me.

    They have no idea.

    They are not Workaholics fans.

    They have not seen my movies.

    They were truly a Maroon 5 fan and now hate me on accident.

    I was legitimately getting hundreds of DMs.

    Well, that sucks.

    I know, but like, if they're a Maroon 5 fan, how could they be so stupid?

    Yeah, no, it's, it's actually mind-blowing.

    This is just a testament

    to the stupidity of so many people.

    It's upsetting for sure.

    So he put out a clarification, a statement addressing

    that, addressing the, you know, confusion and saying, just want to post that me and my wife, Chloe Bridges, and I are doing great.

    I'm obsessed, by the way.

    He's a different guy and a worse singer.

    We are, however, naming our future baby Summoner.

    Hold on.

    I have to.

    Bust you.

    I'm obsessed with the fact that Adam Devine is married to Donna LaDonna from the Carrie Diaries.

    Like, I don't know, you know, what she's up to now, but like to me, she will always be Donna LaDonna.

    Austin Muller was in that show, too.

    That show is a moment in time.

    I cannot recommend people watching enough.

    Um, and I love that they got married, she's like so gorgeous, and they have like such a nice relationship, yeah, because he seems like a nice, funny guy.

    Every now and then, I'll just like go to his Instagram, like, check up.

    Like, I don't follow him, but just like sometimes he'll cross my mind.

    And I find that he has such a nice life, and I feel like he's a really good husband.

    Like, I actually, I really like Adam Devine, and I liked him.

    He had a recent comedy special on Netflix, and it was actually very good.

    Yeah, we enjoyed it.

    And we were just listening to the Pitch Perfect album.

    We were because it's a fun thing to listen to with kids.

    It is.

    Ba, ba,

    What is that?

    I've been working for the weekend and no, not anymore.

    I feel the electricity.

    It's like, you know how sometimes you don't, you're like, I don't know the words of the song.

    And then they just start coming to you.

    But then that, because I wanted to get, I've got the magic in me.

    The magic.

    Every time I touch that track, it turns into gold.

    Ask you a question.

    If you could be a troublemaker or a bard and bella which one would you want it to have been kind of a troublemaker like they were lit and they were popular and they had a hot tub except they all had to like revolve around buster booba

    butt butt i feel like was really competitive like you couldn't get a solo because like buster had you know talent rose i feel like the bard and bellas like they just needed like i could have taken control and given myself all the solos because they were so chaotic big fish small pond yeah But it's like, I want to swim with the big fish.

    Yeah.

    But back to this call her daddy thing.

    So the announcement for who was going to be this week's guest was really confusing because they intentionally tried to make it look like it was going to be Adam Levine.

    Yes.

    And then Bahadi, like, so she posted this clip that was like, it was just Alex talking.

    We didn't see who the guest was.

    And she says, you know, I was, and she was really serious, like nostrils flaring.

    Like she was angry.

    And she was like, I was, you know, a really big Maroon 5 fan.

    But like, how many times did you cheat on your wife?

    And we're like, wow, like she got Adam Levine in the hot seat and like he's answering for his sins.

    That's crazy.

    And then people started like poking holes being like, wait, like they didn't show the thing and and she's kind of acting like an actress.

    Like she wouldn't actually say that.

    So then people were just guessing who it was going to be.

    But then Bahadi Prinslou commented on that teaser being like LOL in all caps.

    And it's like, well, she's talking about like your husband cheating on you.

    Like, is that funny?

    And then it ends up being Adam Devine, which I feel like it's kind of like a rude promo.

    Like, no, I didn't get Adam Levine.

    I got Adam Devine.

    You know, it's not as good.

    But why did Bahadi Prinsliu?

    comment?

    I think to let everyone know, because I think before she commented, people really thought it was Adam Levine.

    So like to let let everyone know, like, this is not Adam without having to say, like, this is not Adam.

    Right.

    But like, she really poked the hole in

    the people who like really thought it was him.

    I just found the whole thing confusing.

    Yeah, it was confusing.

    But then Alex posted pretty quickly afterwards that it was Adam Devine.

    I think because it got so confusing.

    Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

    Well, I actually really like Adam Devine.

    Yeah.

    And so he's not Adam Levine.

    And I have to say, like, if you really are a Moon Pride fan who got confused, like, you're dumb.

    You're dumb.

    you're dumb and you're not okay who are two celebrities that like you whether it's like the way they look or their names that you get confused oh there are so many like evan rachel wood and evanescence

    no you know evanescence's name is amy evanescent's name for me that's that's two no i like dope evan rachel wood and like rachel lee cook like three name girlies they're the same people to me Yeah.

    And I wouldn't know either of them.

    Like I couldn't pick either of them out of a lineup.

    I'm trying to think.

    When I was younger, I could not tell apart Sandra Bullock and Justin, Julia Roberts.

    Yeah, no, but I've got them down, Pat.

    But there are really

    so many.

    I feel like we're Chris's.

    No, no, no.

    That wouldn't even.

    I'm not going there.

    Okay.

    That we're always talking about people who are the same person.

    Yeah.

    But I guess they're so unmemorable.

    Yeah.

    That is what it is.

    It is what it is.

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    Megan Markle and Prince Harry will be deposed in Samantha Markle's defamation case.

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    Megan and Harry will be deposed in her estranged half-sister Samantha Markle's defamation case, a Florida judge ruled on Tuesday.

    The judge dismissed Megan's motion to avoid testimonies, ruling that the Duchess of Sussex, quote, does not show that unusual circumstances justify the requested stay or that prejudice or an undue burden will result if the court does not impose a stay.

    Megan does not satisfy the high standard required to stay discovery pending the resolution of a dispositive motion.

    Samantha had demanded that Megan and Harry be deposed in separate interviews, claiming in court documents that to date, the Duchess has not agreed to schedule one single deposition.

    Samantha also requested the depositions of her father Thomas Markle, her daughter Ashley Hale, who we are now familiar with from the documentary.

    I liked her.

    Former royal aide Jason Knopf and online security expert Christopher Boozy.

    Yikes.

    Samantha is suing Megan for defamation based on, quote, demonstrably false and malicious statements made to a worldwide audience during the Oprah Winner Free interview in March 2021.

    She accused Megan of orchestrating a campaign to, quote, defame and destroy her.

    and Thomas's reputation and credibility.

    The suit alleged that Megan did so, quote, in order to preserve and promote the false rags to royalty narrative that she has fabricated about her life to the royal family and the worldwide media.

    Samantha further claimed that Megan told lies to destroy Samantha's reputation that have subjected her to humiliation, shame, and hatred on a worldwide scale.

    Okay.

    Well, I don't know if they were lies, but I would say she's humiliated and shamed on a worldwide scale.

    So I feel like, first of all, it is so hard.

    to win a defamation case.

    It's borderline impossible in America.

    And look at Johnny Depp and it's beyond expensive.

    I mean, Johnny Depp like almost went broke from that whole thing.

    How is Smith the Markle like paying for all this?

    It's, it's most people, even if you have a good case, most people will avoid litigating when it comes to defamation because it's such a long process.

    It is so expensive.

    Yeah.

    I don't know how she's paying for it, but she must really think that she has a case.

    And I'm sure that she knows that the odds are long.

    Not in her favor.

    Yeah.

    She's also seeking $75,000 in damages.

    Queen, go bigger.

    Like, yeah, that's like...

    I mean, based, like, let's say what she's saying is true and that the Megan interview, whatever, based on the scale of the interview, the damages would be more.

    Yeah, that seems like a low amount of damages.

    I thought you were going to say 75 million.

    Right.

    I don't know, but she really has been

    smeared.

    No, but she has.

    I will say.

    Some of that is her own fault.

    But like, if a lot of that is her own fault.

    If everything that Megan said is true, then like we're, you know, we're just reacting to the truth.

    But like, if all of that is not not true and this woman has just been like completely the, but you know, when I see Samantha Markle, I'm like, oh my God, she's crazy.

    I, my perception of that is built on like just seeing her nonstop doing interviews.

    But what if it's her like trying to clear her name?

    I know, but what did Megan say about her?

    I don't even remember.

    To me, the Samantha Markle of it all is the least interesting thing about the whole Oprah.

    Like, I don't even care.

    Cause honestly, from the second she came out, I'm like, oh my God, this bitch is crazy.

    Okay.

    So from, this is from 2022 when she filed suit.

    The defamatory implication is that the plaintiff had no relationship whatsoever with her sister Megan.

    They were virtual strangers and that plaintiff has created a lucrative career selling false stories to have boys and television programs

    when she knows nothing about the defendant's childhood.

    Megan did say that like she doesn't know this woman at all.

    Why is she coming forward?

    Samantha goes on to accuse Megan of bashing their father Thomas Markle in an attempt to sell the world of false rags to royalty narrative of her life.

    Megan quote, this is from the statement.

    Megan falsely claimed that A, she essentially raised herself from virtual poverty.

    B, she was forced from the age of 13 to work in a a series of low-paying jobs to make ends meet.

    And further accusing Megan of misleading the public regarding Thomas's absence from the wedding.

    I mean, you know what's so great about the justice system is we will find out.

    We'll get to the bottom of it.

    She wants a trial by jury.

    My God, is she a lawyer?

    Like, how, I'm, I'm, to me, the most interesting part about all this is like the back end logistics.

    Like, how is Samantha Markle paying for a legal team?

    Yeah.

    Especially a legal team that's skilled enough and big enough to go up against Harry and Megan, who have kind of unlimited resources.

    Yeah.

    Well, maybe it's not like a big, bad legal team, but maybe the law is on their side or so they feel.

    Yeah.

    You know?

    It'll be interesting.

    I will keep up with this

    case.

    Yeah.

    Hopefully it'll be televised.

    Hopefully it'll be televised.

    Oh my gosh.

    Probably not though.

    Why?

    For whatever reason, because things are different.

    It's Florida.

    Is that what it said?

    The state of Florida?

    It's Florida, but like the same reason that, oh no, Amber and Johnny's was.

    But that was because virginia is the it based it's based on the state i believe but it's like say there's like two rand lay people who are like yeah but no one's bringing a camera to televise because they don't care if they wanted to yeah no and i actually feel like there are channels who like play it you know what i mean yeah court tv yeah like two irrelevance that it exists yeah

    That's how like, you know, when we get documentaries, there's always footage.

    And maybe it wasn't airing at the time or people didn't care, but there's like a catalog of footage.

    Got it.

    Okay, so we'll see what happens.

    Yeah.

    Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

    Bruno, it's the fifth and final.

    Are you excited?

    He's excited because that means when we're done, you could have scratchies.

    Scratchies, you could have scratchies right now.

    Oh, Bruno lives for scratchies.

    Didn't think Theo's not turned towards me.

    He would see

    lots.

    Oh, wow.

    Okay, I got to see.

    Oh, you said the scratchies were not up to the caliber that I desired.

    Okay, bye.

    Great.

    I got my chair back.

    What's the story, girly?

    Stasi baby

    is going Instagram official with her man's Jaden Hostler.

    Jaden Hostler and Stasi Baby are Instagram official.

    After weeks of teasing their relationship, the couple shared their love to the grid over the weekend.

    He, 21, posted a gallery of selfies.

    She 25.

    Posted a gallery of selfies of him and his girlfriend on Saturday getting cuddly in the stairwell.

    In the pics, the singer-songwriter and baby posed side by side.

    Sassy baby.

    No, it's like her actual last name, but she's Stassie Baby to me.

    Posed side by side, him in a tight gray shirt and black pants, and

    Stasi in a tight black bodysuit.

    So, this is interesting.

    So, for those who don't know, I feel like you probably don't know.

    I don't know who Jaden Hustler is, and the why the People magazine article is actually leading with Jaden Hustler because the headline is Jaden and Stasi.

    So, Jaden is a major TikToker.

    He's from like the OG hype house days, like, he's part of like the Addison Charlie Bryce crew.

    He was one of those guys,

    yeah, Bryce Hall.

    And what about Streis?

    No, Streis wasn't in the hype house.

    Um, he's one of like the OGs.

    He was dating this girl, Maddie, and they were like the couple of the house, yada, yada.

    And then this other couple, Jaden, I feel like we spoke about them a lot, Jaden and Nessa.

    Remember?

    Nessa, oh Nessa.

    So they were like these two couples.

    And then it turned out that Nessa and Jaden from the two couples started dating.

    Affair?

    It wasn't clear.

    It wasn't, you know, it wasn't totally kosher, you know?

    But these kids are 17.

    So then Jaden and Nessa started dating and everyone was like, not okay.

    But then it turned out like they were like OTP.

    They were, they were both singers.

    They're both like really emo.

    Like,

    and, you know, it was, it was good.

    And then they broke up and it was like so confusing.

    Um, now I guess he's eating sassy.

    Baby.

    I know way too much about these kids, but

    I'm spending all my time on TikTok.

    I might as well like provide something of value here at the toast.

    And now he guesses eating sassy.

    Yeah, which is definitely like, you know, good for him.

    Yeah.

    Like older woman.

    New circle.

    New circle.

    She's gorgeous.

    I kind of love this for him.

    Yeah, for him.

    I don't know if I love it for her.

    Yeah.

    I feel like Stas, not I, Stas hasn't had like

    a big relationship, like to because Stasi's like, like, we know her, but a lot of people, she's just Kylie's friend, whatever.

    But she's like a businesswoman and she's kind of her own celebrity now.

    And I think the next thing she really needs is like a major relationship.

    Well, maybe this will be good for her, like with the youngins.

    Yeah.

    Like, oh, Jaden's, who's Jaden's girlfriend?

    And they'll like go and find her.

    But no, this can't be our final destination.

    She needs an A-list.

    Honestly, I might add her to the list, even though I know she's not single currently.

    But like,

    she will be soon, and she's good for the list.

    She's really eligible.

    She runs in fabulous circles.

    She's gorgeous.

    And she could, like, handle like a really successful

    man.

    Cause like you see how she is with Kylie.

    Yeah.

    She's comfortable.

    Is there anyone on the list who we think would be good for her?

    Um, let me pull up my list because it's been a while.

    Okay, here we go.

    Stasi baby, Chris Evans.

    No.

    I think he's like dating someone, but he's always dating someone.

    Like a normie.

    Sean Mendez.

    I don't see it, but...

    I don't see it.

    This guy kind of looks like Sean Mendez.

    He's also a good age.

    This guy looks like Jaden.

    Something like Sean Mendez.

    Like, that's what she needs.

    She needs something like.

    Yeah.

    Harry Styles.

    Yes.

    I always think Harry's single now.

    Yeah.

    Drop a comment.

    Who do you think Stassie Baby should date?

    Well, you know, she dated Tyler Cameron for like a day.

    Remember that?

    No.

    Yeah.

    Yeah, they were like rumored for like a minute.

    Okay.

    And every once in a while, she'll be linked or like a picture, a cute picture will emerge of her and Rob.

    Obsessed.

    Which I'm obsessed with.

    Remember, they were like leaving the club, like meeting each other, but I don't think they were hooking up.

    They were just like being friends.

    Like family friends.

    And like maybe, you know, helping each other walk

    sort of thing, which I'm obsessed with.

    We need, you know what we need in 2023?

    Kylie and Stas could be sisters.

    Well, I think we're all kind of in agreement.

    There's, we're kind of going through like a very stale Kardashian era.

    Like nothing they're doing is like really giving.

    I think it's on Rob to save save the family.

    So I think now is really what we need is a Rob comeback.

    I think that is one of very few things that could really catapult them back to like their pre-2022 success.

    And I think honestly, it's he needs to.

    Like it's his turn to say like everyone has done their turn.

    To step up.

    He slacked for years, but he still like enjoys the fruits.

    No, but the thing is with Rob and I think why everyone's okay with him like not

    can't handle it.

    Like the fame and and I think he struggled with addiction.

    Like no, I know they they they they're okay with it because it protects them i think where they feel like annoyed with courtney is different because like courtney really enjoys all the fruits and everything

    holding up her end she is but

    courtney's actually really not bothering me no like she's just in her happy place

    like she's scoring high right now i agree And like, I think what her and Travis's relationship like is great for the family and they need a similar relationship, like to bring, to revive.

    Yeah.

    Now we're saying it could be raw, but it won't be.

    Let's like, I know.

    and that's what's best for his mental health so like i'll i'll allow it you'll allow it um it could be kendall yeah it won't be it should be chloe it could be chloe it can't really be kim no we like i think she already did that the thing she like she brought the family back with kanye yeah and so like you can't do it twice remember when there were rumors like brad pitt was dating like courtney or chloe like i liked that that time that's kind of what the family needs yeah they need to go big yeah like something they have to i'm sure they're working on something i think they know they're kind of in their flop era and i'm curious what they have in the works chloe and elon obsess like something like that like fucking crazy something crazy that like they could bring in like that's why i was seeing brad pitt like someone who's larger than life who we don't really get access to but like bring him in like we see him in videos and like maybe on the show in the corner like for them to humanize someone you know yeah that's like their trademark thing yeah i love that or like kendall and harry styles yeah that's what everyone.

    It's so obvious.

    Honestly, I'm not, I don't really ship it.

    No, I ship.

    Like you could find me shipping.

    No, you'd find me on the ship with me and Harry.

    But I also like don't really think that they're a good match.

    The right match.

    So I'm not going to like get like, I'm not like sitting here waiting for them to get back together.

    But like if that's what they chose, like no, I'd be here.

    You know, I'm sure I would enjoy the photos.

    And Kylie's like kind of single now, too.

    Yes.

    They kind of...

    all are except for Courtney.

    Yeah.

    They need to like, they need to go on grouper.

    Stop.

    And like they need to get four

    A-listers.

    A-list like friends.

    And they need to go on a group date.

    Yeah.

    Who's like a crew of like eligible A-list A-listers?

    Like who's Brad Pitts friends with that's single?

    I don't like this wouldn't work because they're all married, but like the Jonas brothers.

    Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

    I like that.

    A grouper.

    Or what about like the Wahlbergs?

    What are they doing now?

    And they're much older.

    Like they need it all.

    Donnie's married.

    Mark is married.

    They're all married.

    Fine.

    They need a family.

    The Gronkowskis.

    He has like a bunch of brothers.

    But Jason's very married.

    Travis is not.

    Travis is not.

    But they need to stay away from athletes.

    True.

    It's a tawdry, tauddry

    space.

    Okay, let me just think of a couple more famous siblings.

    Then we can move on.

    Or even like a boy band.

    Yeah.

    Or a man-band.

    Like bands are like not a thing, yeah.

    A man-band.

    Like Chris Martin is not.

    Like Mumford.

    He's married to Carrie Mulligan.

    Rats.

    I know.

    Everyone's kind of taking its coming season.

    You know, turdy.

    Let's go.

    Let's direct our efforts to Nashville.

    Yeah.

    But the thing with Nashville, like country boys, they're all wiped up.

    Yeah.

    Like it's a part of their culture, you know?

    Yeah.

    Buy dirt.

    Find the one you can't live without.

    Get a ring, let your knee hit the ground.

    Do what you love and call it work.

    And throw a little money in the plate at church send your prayers up and your roots down deep add a few links to your family tree watch their pencil marks in the grass in the yard all grow up as a true yeah they all sing about like faith and family they're not single goes by real quick you can't buy happiness

    but you can buy dirt Obsessed.

    And that's really like, I feel like the Kardashians would hear that.

    It'd be like, true, true, true, and true.

    Yeah, they kind of have like country family values.

    they do are they like cowgirls they all say like they want to give it all up and move to the farm right right and they all say it right kylie needs a cowboy kylie needs a cowboy

    and there are some eligible younger nationalians kylie and blairt eldridge kylie and morgan wallen

    that's it that's the one that's the one oh my god obsessed young

    so those are the past five you certainly did not need to know them but we had a good time I had it like Kylie Morgan Wallen is going to get me through my darkest days.

    Yeah.

    Obsessed.

    Oblast.

    Obsessed.

    But the show's not over because it's Wednesday and we have three toasters in desperate need of our help.

    And our first dear toasters is a girl having trouble with her wenchy boss.

    And the boss is.

    is giving wench-like behavior.

    So again, every Wednesday is our advice segment.

    It's called Dear Toasters.

    And if you ever want to write in, of course, your submission is always anonymous.

    Email deartoasters at gmail.com and we will do our best to get your submission read on air.

    If we have read your submission on air, fucking send us an update, okay?

    It's unacceptable.

    I scoured that stupid email account for hours yesterday looking for an update for someone.

    When I didn't just search update.

    I did.

    Okay.

    So why did it take you hours?

    Because there was only a couple emails that said update and they were all like, I promise I'll update.

    Okay.

    Wench doubting me.

    So then I had to just go through by hand to see if anybody replied to themselves.

    Wench doubted you.

    You're right.

    Hey, Jackson Claude.

    How you dering?

    I'm a Gen Z toaster here.

    Oh, did you find this on Technology?

    Oh, Amy Big Sis.

    I'm in need of some advice about my new boss.

    I work at my college's gym as a spin instructor, and I just got a new boss at the beginning of the semester.

    She is wacky, to say the least.

    Within one day of meeting me, she asked me for a ride home and then made me come inside her house and handed me her dog's dog leash so I could walk her dog.

    Within the one week that I have known her, she has told me that I have a personality that is too big and needs to be reined in.

    She referred to me as her dog's boyfriend and asked me to drive her two hours to the airport.

    The most recent offense was that when discussing an inappropriate client who made a comment about my body, she turned around and said, well, yeah, you're robust, but who cares?

    Am I being too sensitive or does this lady have no boundaries?

    What do I do?

    Do I just ignore it?

    I love my job and I don't want to quit.

    So please help.

    Oh my God.

    So either like.

    You obviously, like next time she asks you for a ride, no.

    Sorry.

    No, you don't owe her a ride.

    If you keep doing it, like you get into the habit of her thinking it's acceptable.

    Yeah.

    No, you don't, you can say no to all of those extra.

    It's not like she's asking you to do things like in the workplace.

    Like no, no, I won't walk in the dog.

    And like you're a college student, like you have classes, you have exams, you have homework.

    You have a million excuses.

    I'm sorry.

    I have study groups.

    So stop doing all those extra things for her.

    But in terms of like that comment, that's unacceptable, especially you work at a gym.

    Like, fuck off.

    If it like really made you uncomfortable, like you should maybe tell someone higher up.

    But I don't want you to lose your job either.

    That's like a great gig for a college student.

    And she shouldn't ruin it for you.

    So either, if you can't like ignore her and like just tuck her away and just be like, okay, irrelevant, ugly bye.

    Report it.

    Yeah.

    But you can't really like report giving her a ride because it's like, well, you don't have to give her a ride.

    You can report the body comment.

    It's always important just to at least start a file.

    Like if you're having trouble with someone at work, like if you come to them at the end of the year and be like, she did all this, consistently be reporting it.

    And you know what?

    Like you didn't do anything wrong.

    So I wouldn't worry about you getting fired.

    Report it.

    All the things that you can say no to, say no to.

    And just keep a record, you know?

    That's what they say.

    Keep a record.

    Yeah.

    And also just like stay the fuck away from her.

    So she doesn't think like, oh, I need someone to help me today.

    Let me call that girl.

    Yeah.

    Like you want her to think like, no, you're not easy.

    You're that girl who's never around.

    Yeah.

    You're that girl who's got so much going going on.

    Yeah.

    Because she's so fabulous.

    Dates, trips to the Cape.

    Trips to the Cape Clambakes.

    Clambakes.

    Her social events calendar is so booked.

    I'll ask someone else to drive into the airport.

    Maybe I'll call a taxi.

    Maybe.

    Maybe.

    Make yourself completely unavailable in anything that isn't work-related.

    All right, next up.

    Hey there, girly girls.

    Love you guys so much.

    I'm in need of some help.

    I recently got engaged to a total PJOM this past Christmas.

    However, I don't love my engagement ring.

    For reference, it's white gold, which looks silver.

    And I'm a gold girly through and through.

    I have no idea why he picks picked something other than gold since it's all I wear in jewelry.

    Like, I don't own a silver piece at all.

    I am contemplating getting it gold plated because this white gold just isn't me, and I'm not in love with it.

    It actually bugs me that he did this because it's like he hasn't been paying attention or hadn't picked up that I'm a gold jewelry wearer, and we've been together for seven years.

    Please, what do I do?

    Am I being such a bitch, or am I justified in wanting to make this ring perfect since I'm the one looking at it every day?

    I love the cut and everything else.

    It's strictly just the color.

    Okay, that's really great.

    that you love the cut and everything else because we can work with it.

    The cheapest thing I think to change is the color of your band.

    Yeah.

    And I wouldn't be offended that like he didn't know that you wear gold jewelry.

    Like if you listened to yesterday's Patreon episode, like they don't know.

    They don't know anything.

    Like a man wouldn't notice like a rock flying at his head until it was too late.

    He's certainly not noticing if I asked Ben.

    But the only thing is like typically when someone gets an engagement ring, like they do pass around.

    So like, but I also kind of like a man taking initiative.

    I saw this beautiful ring and it reminded me of you.

    Unfortunately, it wasn't the right choice.

    But I do like that he made a choice.

    No, and I feel like you can tell him, just be like, by the way, like i'm thinking about um just having the the ring gold plated reset reset reset and by the way if he's like angry like that's a red flag like chill um so i feel like it's like kind of a good test you know yeah you could also like take the original band because it might have like some meaning and like repurpose it and just make it into like a wedding band that you wear in your other hand mixing like gold and white gold is cool so i feel like you could wait find a way to work that in but if you take the initiative of like i'm just gonna switch out the band i love the ring um i love you yeah like and you'll pay for it.

    Like, I think that that's okay.

    I think that that's okay too.

    And it might hurt him a little bit, like, if, you know, he,

    I don't know, it's been, it's been like three months.

    She got engaged on Christmas, like two months.

    Yeah.

    I can't imagine, like, on the one hand, it's like, sounds beautiful.

    Like, can't you just learn to love it?

    I know, but it's like

    all this money.

    We gotta look at it every day.

    And it's like a reflection of you.

    Like, I feel like an engagement ring is really like the person in a ring.

    Yeah.

    And if it's not you, it's, it's not you.

    I have to imagine, like, if he went through all the trouble of like getting it and spending the money on it, he would want you to be happy.

    Yeah.

    And it's like, it's meant to be a gift.

    Like, you're not wearing it to make him happy.

    So fucking true.

    So it's meant to be a gift.

    So like make the gift what you want it to be.

    Yeah.

    I just think if you're the one who's going to go through all the hoops and pay for it, right?

    I really think that you can do what you want.

    Yeah.

    No, you're 100%.

    It's not like you want to return the whole ring.

    You don't like the stone or anything.

    So that's what I was going to say.

    Like the detail that you want changed is like probably the least big of deal.

    So it's really okay.

    But just be open, be honest.

    Yeah.

    No one ever regretted telling the truth.

    Is that the truth?

    No.

    I've definitely regretted the truth.

    There's a part of me that's like, if you just changed it and didn't tell him, what do you think?

    What do you know?

    What do you know?

    Oh, I mean, sorry.

    I got my ring reset.

    I did not like the setting.

    When did you do it?

    I think maybe before I even got married.

    Like during the engagement.

    Yeah.

    Are you sure?

    Possibly.

    I don't really like don't remember.

    True.

    But I did get a reset.

    I don't even know if I told Ben.

    I paid for it myself.

    It was, the band was just really thick and I wanted like a really thin one.

    Yeah.

    So I, I, like all the diamonds in the band are the same diamonds.

    I just got a new platinum band.

    Yeah.

    It was just too heavy.

    Yeah.

    I think that that's fine then.

    And it's crazy how resetting your ring like changes the ring entirely.

    It's like, I mean, it wasn't cheap, but it's much better than like.

    getting a new diamond.

    And it's a really kind of low cost, relatively low cost way of giving your ring new life.

    Yeah, a new ring.

    I remember when I got it, I was like, oh my God, I opened it.

    I was like, my friend Ana did.

    I'm like, you sent me the wrong ring.

    I I didn't even notice it.

    Didn't recognize her.

    I didn't recognize my own ring.

    So that's exciting.

    You have something, you're getting a new piece of jewelry.

    Like, it really looks so different.

    I'm excited for you.

    All right, third and final dear toasters.

    Hey, Jackson Claude.

    I'm a longtime toaster and breather.

    Did you see the Scott Rogowski episode?

    And I don't know what I would do if I couldn't listen to you, Queens every day.

    Thank you.

    All right, let me get into it.

    I'm going on vacation with my boyfriend's family in a couple months.

    We've been dating for about two years.

    I love him dearly and I love his family too.

    I'm so

    grateful and excited that they invited me to join them on their family trip.

    Coincidentally, my aunt lives right near where we'll be staying.

    I haven't seen her in about a year and I thought it would be fun to see her while we're there.

    But when I brought it up to my boyfriend to see if a visit with her might fit into the schedule of our trip, he acted kind of offended about it.

    While he didn't outright say no, he basically told me that it would be inappropriate and rude towards his parents who are bringing me on their trip with them.

    Am I delusional slash out of line in thinking it would be okay to go see my aunt?

    My boyfriend is normally very chill and easygoing about things, so I was surprised by this reaction.

    I don't want to offend his parents or his family, but I also would feel bad if I was there and never attempted to see my aunt.

    Help.

    What should I do?

    I see both sides.

    I kind of do too, but like at the end of the day, like it's fucking crazy to like be staying down the street from your aunt and not go see her.

    Now it's different if like you want your aunt to come to dinner with everyone.

    No, if you want to sit down and go see your aunt, you're totally fine in doing that.

    You definitely have to be

    cautious because like you don't, it's like their family.

    Families get weird in territorial.

    So like it's their family trip.

    You can't be inserting your family into their family.

    But if you say like, oh, everyone's going for a walk, I'm just going to go run and see my aunt for an hour.

    Jason, you want to come?

    Yeah, that wouldn't offend me, but I could see a little bit where her boyfriend's coming from.

    But it's like, we didn't bring you here to go see your aunt.

    But it's also like, you're not a prisoner.

    Oh, and like, it's kind of crazy.

    Like, if you don't live near someone who's your family and you literally happen to be staying five minutes away from them, it's, that's rude not to go see them.

    Yeah, but you could say like, I'm here with my boyfriend's family and like they have it as itinerary.

    I just want to tell you, no, like I'm in town.

    and if I have time like I'll come see you and then but also why do you gotta lie to Auntie that's that's vacation with Hitler like that's insane I agree a little bit but I do understand

    a little bit where he's coming from not saying that I agree with him and also if it were me and like Zach had some we were on a family trip and like he wants to go visit with someone for a few hours in the day I'd be like oh my god amazing go same and I imagine I'm thinking like if these were my in-laws like my in-laws would invite them over to sleep over like but people are different and it's like we didn't and it's also if they're like paying for you it's like we didn't pay for your trip to go see your aunt yeah no, this isn't like your family sponsored.

    Why are you so controlling?

    Why are you so crazy?

    No, honestly, I, I'm on your side here.

    Like, I think you can see your aunt.

    Like, I get families mixing is what you're doing.

    But like, but no, it's not mixing.

    It's going to be an outing.

    She's going to go alone.

    So it's not mixing.

    The boyfriend's not going to come.

    That's rude.

    He doesn't need to come.

    Take it.

    And also, like, he's already being a freak.

    Like, stuff.

    Yeah.

    Don't invite, like, don't make him come.

    It's not mixing, but

    I think you need to find like the right.

    You have to, it's a delicate line, but also it's like,

    it's just, it is weird.

    No, but the thing is, the boyfriend probably hasn't told his parents about it yet.

    And it's entirely possible the parents will be like, oh man, of course, go see your aunt.

    Like they understand family.

    Or he's like reacting

    to the way he thinks they're going to react.

    Yeah.

    You keep her locked up.

    But you know what?

    She said, did she say she got engaged?

    Is her boyfriend?

    No, there's boyfriend and girlfriend.

    Okay, but like, you know, families do have to start mixing when you get married and stuff like that.

    And like, you know what?

    Like you should set.

    Stop with the mixing.

    No, but I'm saying like you should set if you let them steamroll over you on this like you're setting a precedent like go see your fucking aunt yeah but that's not about mixing no but i'm not you being independent which this aunt will probably meet this family if they get married agree but like if they don't get married like why did we meet your aunt I don't need them to meet the aunt.

    Okay.

    No, I don't need them.

    I'm not saying them.

    You're desperate for my plate.

    You're desperate for them to mix.

    No, I'm not.

    I'm just saying they will.

    If you get engaged, like your family is with them.

    Of course.

    And when you get engaged.

    But if I'm the boyfriend, I'm saying.

    No, but what you do in your relationship sets precedent for your life.

    Which is why I think you need to assert your independence, but not the mixing of the ants.

    I didn't say mix.

    You said mix so many times in this conversation.

    I literally didn't say it.

    I didn't say that these families are going to mix all the vacation.

    I didn't fucking say that, okay?

    You did.

    You said mixing can be weird, but it has to be.

    I did.

    I did say that.

    I did say that.

    But why do we need to talk about mixing?

    Because these people might get married.

    But mixing is not what this is about.

    It's about you asserting your independence on a family trip.

    Okay, whatever you say, toxic future mother-in-law, okay?

    That is true, but I don't, I don't even know.

    Like,

    if Harry's girlfriend wanted to go, you guys are going to the Florida.

    Yeah, but I'm the type that's like, go, goodbye.

    Yeah, please get out of my space.

    Like, like, absence makes dark girlfriend.

    I'll miss you.

    Yeah.

    And then I can't wait for you to come back.

    Like, I think, like, time spent, like, that's always good when someone has, like, oh, I like this to do this today.

    And I'm going to go to the house.

    What if she wants to take Harry?

    And you're on family vacation.

    And they're not engaged.

    And he's going to go meet some rogue ant.

    I don't think so.

    Harry stays with his mommy.

    Dude, you're fucking crazy.

    It depends.

    It depends a million million things.

    Be like, are we, it's just a really short vacation.

    We don't have a lot of time.

    Where are we on vacation?

    Really, how far does the aunt live?

    Is this somebody?

    What is she missing out on?

    Is this somewhere that's like a remote place that it's like, oh my God, it's so crazy that I'm down the street from this aunt?

    Or is it like somewhere you could go anytime?

    We're going down the shore.

    It's circumstantial.

    It's circumstantial, really.

    But ultimately, like, he can go wherever the fuck he wants.

    Oh, and ultimately, like, he's going to mix families

    with that girl one day.

    But not today.

    No.

    Go see your aunt.

    You go see your aunt for sure.

    If your boyfriend doesn't want to come, like,

    who cares?

    Literally, who cares?

    You want to see your aunt.

    Yeah.

    You weren't like, I really want my aunt to meet my boyfriend.

    You have free will, girly.

    Don't forget that.

    Was that only two?

    No, that was three.

    That was three.

    Robust.

    Ring.

    This one.

    Yet Auntie.

    Hope we were able to solve some of your, you know, titillating prompts.

    If Harry was on a trip with his girlfriend and you were down the street, you bet you get your ass over there.

    You don't go to Claudia's town without seeing Auntie Koya.

    It's true.

    See, now you see it.

    So, if it's an anti-choia type of ante, right?

    How important is this ante?

    Because there are degrees

    of ante.

    So true.

    And I think it's important for you to let us know what degree of ante this is.

    First degree?

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