It Was Diana's! From The 80's!: Thursday, January 19th, 2023
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Good morning, millennials.
Welcome back to the toast.
Happy Thursday.
Hope everyone's having a blessed day.
I am, because I'm joined by,
yeah, I made it.
I'm the world's greatest.
I know it's R.
Kelly.
Don't come for me.
It's such a good song.
Hey, John.
I'm that star up in the sky.
I'm the mountain way up high.
Hey, I made it.
I'm the world's greatest.
I know.
It's like so sad that he had to go to the bottom.
Nothing like a little R.
Kelly to start off the day.
So true.
Hey, Jax, how you darn?
Dern good.
Thank you very much.
How about you?
Do I look like Puffy?
No.
Well, I should because I was up all night
sobbing, sobbing.
I did not go to bed till 2.30 in the morning, sobbing from this book in five years.
I never cried like that.
I never cried like that in my fucking life.
What?
Oh my God.
I thought you were going to say that you were up sobbing from the sound of music because I I was.
Oh, you watched it?
Because I was.
I made it all the way to intermission.
Like, remember when there was an intermission in a movie?
It was the perfect time to turn it off.
I'm going to finish it tonight.
It was so good.
I was getting, like, a little emotional.
It was so beautiful.
Oh, wow.
But I can't believe you're crying over it in five years.
I have cried like
two or three times at books.
And when I say cry, I mean like, you know, tears well up.
Maybe
a tear.
Jackie, you would have thought someone died.
Sobbing.
What about it?
Spoiler alert.
But this was a book that we read for the Redheads in 2020.
So if you've been keeping up, like, this is old news.
Spoiler alert, okay?
In five years, Rebecca Searle about to be spoiled.
Her best friend dies of cancer, and they like literally take you through the whole thing.
And then like they're, oh my god, I'm literally going to cry talking about it.
Like she, they're like ignoring that she's going to die.
Like they, they're like, they haven't even like thought about it.
And then like the girl is like, we need to talk about it.
Like I'm dying.
And it was just, oh my God.
sobbed like I've never sobbed in my whole life.
So, do you like the book?
Love.
Wow.
Cause when we read it for the Redheads, like, we weren't that impressed.
Mind you, it was when we were doing two books a month during COVID.
Dark times.
And we read it right after Before We Were Strangers, which we all love.
But then two weeks later, we read this.
And like, we're not a bunch of girls who like read a lot of romance books in a row.
So we were kind of fatigued and it didn't get the shine that you're saying it deserves.
Oh my God, I'm obsessed.
I'm so glad that you liked my recommendation.
Loved, loved, loved.
Thank you so much.
So if I'm looking like puffy or my voice sounds like a little hoarse, it's because I was up all night crying again.
Did you finish the book?
No, no.
It was so late.
Ben was snoring and like I really needed to go to bed.
I thought you were going to find it a little stupid.
Okay, so I was about to find it stupid, but what I really like about the book is it's all about this dream that
the girl has.
And I'm a person who, like, I'm very in touch with my subconscious.
I have crazy dreams.
I have dreams that I've remembered since I was a kid.
I have recurring dreams.
So I actually liked that this book was like referencing a dream because there are dreams that I have.
There's like two or three that I've had in my life that like I'm always thinking about.
Got it.
Okay, so it spoke to you.
I'm really enjoying it.
So I just wanted to say like if I look, you know, not like my usual supermodel self, that's why.
It's because you were emoting.
I was also so busy yesterday, like podcast, podcast, podcast, meeting, meeting, meeting.
Ended the show, I mean, ended the day with our first ever live podcast.
We did a live YouTube video and audio podcast on our Patreon yesterday.
It was so fun.
It was a YouTube live, which we used to do every single day for our show.
Some of you guys are new here, but this show started as like a Facebook live, Instagram live, and YouTube live show.
Then we eventually stopped doing Facebook and Instagram.
But for like many years, we would do this show live on YouTube and then,
you know, upload it as a podcast.
But we had the live chat and that was like a bet like a really great part of the live element of our old show and to kind of go back to our roots with like there was like 4 000 people there they were chatting chatting chatting like i was living for it living for it It was so much fun.
I think everyone had a really good time.
It was a great way to spend the night.
We broke down like a lot of the pop culture stories from this week, things that like we didn't get a chance to talk about.
We really dove into the sound of music, which inspired me to watch the movie.
And it's so good.
And the more I thought about it, the more I was like, this is my perfect movie.
Like it's a historical
period piece musical about the campers.
Speaking of musicals, we also dove deep into the glee documentary, which has been like a developing story online, but it's not really like interesting enough to talk about on the toast.
But actually, if you look like deep enough, it actually is really interesting.
So we were able, we read like a review that kind of, you know, read the documentary to filth.
And we got to dive deep into like the glee curse.
It was a really good episode.
Like we did lots of pop culture, lots of Jackson Claude.
And I told it fun.
Like, I can't wait to do it again.
Yeah, me too.
We'll definitely do it again next month.
So if you want to watch the show after it happened, you can head over to patreon.com slash the toast.
It's there waiting to be watched and enjoyed by all.
Hunter version.
Hunjared Person.
So today I have an exciting day because after we wrap the toast, I'm going to record a podcast with my twin.
Yes, you are.
Yes, you you are.
I'm so excited.
Are you able to say?
Yeah, I'm doing Victoria Fuller's podcast.
She already posted about it.
So I'm doing Victoria Fuller's podcast.
Like not my twin.
It's going to be like so much twin energy in one studio.
I just hope this is not on video because it's going to be really confusing.
Like who's talking?
I do believe it is on video.
Damn.
Well, hopefully her voice is very different than yours, which I believe it is.
I think it's lower and slower.
Yeah, no, but I'm excited to see her in person.
Like
it's like looking in a mirror.
Because I always say like one of the most annoying things about the human experience is never being able to see your body.
Like I can look down at my legs, but I can never be you looking at me.
I will never see what other people see.
It's like so frustrating.
Like and a mirror is really not accurate.
So I think being in the same room as Victoria Fuller will be the closest I will ever get to seeing myself.
Okay.
A mirror is accurate, except there's always a part of me that's like, what if the mirrors are all lying and none of us look like what we think?
No, but also when you stand in front of a mirror, you're typically posing.
Like, even if you're just standing in a way that's flattering, you never see yourself like 360.
It's two-dimensional.
Yeah.
It's not accurate.
It's not accurate.
By the way, when was the mirror invented?
Like, did people used to just like exist having no clue what they looked like?
They would look at their reflection in like a lake.
That's Marcesus.
In a lake.
Like a lake.
Like a lick a lake.
You know, in a spoon.
And then eventually the mirror mirror came to be but i think for a while there was like reflective surfaces
that weren't as clear as our mirrors now no and a little foggy don't you shudder to think what people will be seeing their reflection in in a hundred years Fucking scary.
They're going to be like looking at an x-ray machine.
I'm actually, I'm glad to be alive in the age of the mirror.
Like, I didn't want to be looking at my reflection in a lake because you got to bend down to look at the lake and then you got to double chin.
So I would just be extremely insecure in the Renaissance.
No, but maybe, no, maybe you're secure because like you see this vision of yourself that's like a little blurry, you know, with just the silhouettes.
Oh, I'm looking good.
I don't see these details.
I don't see that pimple.
That's true.
It's like a little too much.
Yeah, we're seeing a little too much now.
Okay, tell me if this is like the worst call ever.
Do you feel like pimples are like a new age thing?
I just refuse to believe people like in the industrial times like had pimples.
Well, people in the industrial times definitely had pimples because that smog was clogging their skin for sure.
But I do think all of this skincare it's a little chicken and egg yeah and you see like i mean ben loves to say because he he has perfect skin because he doesn't put anything on his face but i think he's also someone who's just blessed with good skin i think that definitely in the renaissance there were pimply teenagers but i also think that a lot of current environmental factors and also products that we have and consume and like how everything has just a bajillion chemicals like it's not helping i guess because like the only way way I envision like the Renaissance is like from TV.
Like in the Gilded Age, nobody had pimples, but it's because they're actors.
Yes.
Yeah.
Okay.
And like if someone in the Renaissance had their portrait done, like the artist isn't including the pimple.
Like a lot of those portraits are extremely flattering.
Photoshopped.
Photoshopped.
Yeah, FaceTune.
No, that's so true.
So who knows what they were looking like?
Scary.
Yeah, but maybe they think we look scary with like our Botox and our big lips.
big lips and like all of our makeup, like a couple of clowns.
I'm gonna be honest with you guys, you look like fucking clowns.
You know, because people, like in the um
what I don't know what era it was called, but in like France, you know, Marie Antoinette, when they were wearing like literal clown makeup, like they thought they were gorgeous.
And then big wigs.
I'm happy for them.
Yeah.
And they were the big wigs.
Confidence is a timeless asset.
Yeah.
But
beauty is
it's relative and it isn't.
Like, I think it's also timeless, you know, I think there's a yeah, there's a certain person who's beautiful in any era.
Me.
Leterde.
So Victoria Fuller.
Laterdia.
So Victoria Fuller.
La Terdia.
Yeah.
Letterd.
So it's the hers day, which means we're so close.
We are so close.
You guys hold on.
Hold on for one more day.
Tomorrow's Friday and we have a great show today.
So by the time you're done listening to this, it might even be time for like a late afternoon snack and then, you know, sneaking out of work early.
So, we're going to get you through.
We're going to sail into this Friday.
Yeah, we really are.
Though this week has been not nefarious, it was a four-day work week.
And for that, we are grateful.
Yeah.
So, we need to acknowledge the good weeks just like we acknowledge the bad weeks.
So true, Jax.
So true.
Some weeks never end, but today I woke up.
I was like, it's Thursday.
Wow.
There are some weeks, like I swear to God, that I'm still living in.
Like, they're so long.
Yeah.
But not this week.
And we should acknowledge, you're correct.
It's a cute little shorty award.
Please, I'm triggered.
I'm sorry, but you need to, like, you need to confront your triggers.
You can't be one of those people that's like, I can't say shorty.
Go, shorty.
It's your birthday.
Gonna party, like, it's your birthday.
I didn't really even tell anyone because I genuinely forgot, but like last week was my half birthday.
I thought you're celebrating your birthday now on your half birthday.
I know, I forgot.
Well, maybe you celebrated it in LA.
I think that's a good way to celebrate.
Yeah, it was just like frustrating because I wanted to have my 28th birthday
last week and I totally forgot space because I'm so busy.
Yeah, so we'll party in July.
I guess
you need to stop hating everything
that you can't change.
No,
because
I like it.
By the way, no, I like, I am all for hating things that you can change because it's motivation to change.
To change it.
Yeah.
But just because you can't change something doesn't mean you have to accept it.
Like, no, I'm still going to hate that shit.
I think you should, I agree with you.
I agree on the whole, but I think you should accept your birthday and find a way to
find joy in it because it's every year that this is like a struggle.
And really, now that you're grown, like you need to drop the childhood camp trauma of not like getting the birthday that you wanted because now that as an adult, like having a summer birthday is popping.
Like all your teacher friends can come to your birthday party.
I don't actually have any like friends who I would invite to a birthday party who are teachers, I don't think.
Maybe that's a significant
word.
Maybe that's a sign to make some.
No, but also, okay, yes, I have summer birthday trauma from being a child.
Like, you know, everyone got parties at school and they could have, you know, parties on the weekend with all of their classmates.
And I was in the summer and it was like, I wasn't with my family.
And like, it was just like,
it wasn't that great.
Your sisters were there.
We were there
at CPA camp.
Yeah, no, sorry.
I don't know why I said that.
I didn't mean family.
I meant like my home friends and I got to get a party at the house, whatever.
And I thought as an adult, I'm like, great, well, now we're all adults and we have to work.
So there is no real summer.
It's arguably worse, especially because I loved camp.
So, all right, I had to celebrate my birthday at camp.
Sue me, you know?
But now as an adult, people who work during the summer, well, everyone works, but during the summer, everyone's working so hard during the week.
Everybody makes the most of their summer weekends.
They take road trips.
They take regular trips.
They go see family.
Like, nobody is really free on the weekends of the summer.
But that's because you say, I'm not going to do anything for my birthday.
I'm not going to do anything for my birthday.
And then the Thursday before your birthday, you're like, why isn't everyone in the city for my birthday weekend?
Or like, why aren't people going to be in the Hamptons?
Like, if you said now to your friends who you want there, there, we're doing a weekend in the Hamptons, like I'm getting a table at Surf Lodge, my birthday weekend, like go be in the Hamptons, they would spend that weekend in the Hamptons.
Yeah, you know what?
Maybe I'll start planning it now.
That's the lesson.
I will say I do that every year.
I'm like, I'm not taking anything.
And then the day before, I like send out a paperless post.
And I did the same thing last year.
And then I was shocked when people are out of town.
But I did the same thing last year.
And I will say,
Last year's really came together flawlessly.
Like it was my first good birthday in a while.
I did.
And you know what?
If anyone has a birthday summer or not, feel free to take this idea.
I did a mystery bus ride.
So I basically told everyone, like, get your ass to my house nine o'clock Saturday night.
And there was a bus outside.
I got like a big party bus.
Like we were going to prom.
Like I invited everyone.
I was saying maybe 20, 30 people came.
It was a really good crew.
It was a good crew.
I didn't tell anyone where we were going.
And I was dropping hints along the way.
And I took everyone to Chelsea Piers where we bowled.
We did laser tag.
We went to the arcade.
And then we ended the night with a table at a club.
Like, it was actually a really good birthday.
It was.
I had a blast and everyone else did.
And they were into the mysteriousness of it i think a lot of people thought we were going to atlantic city right which honestly is something i would do but i would tell people like pack a bag like you're gonna make fresh undies no like i didn't buy clothes for all you you know girl like the sixth podcast is not like that successful i'm not like out here getting rooms for you guys it's not like a tart or a revolve influencer trip where you get to your room and you have all the clothes that you need literally but now you have enough advanced window that like if you wanted to plan that you could and I'm sure you could get like work with the hotel get rooms Rooms are pretty easy to come by.
But if you want to stock the rooms with clothes, you're going to have to start reaching out to some brands.
Show me your Moo Moo.
For the women.
Okay, wait.
I don't know if you're aware of like what's going down on TikTok right now, but there's like a tart trip.
No.
So tart has been like popping off, especially on TikTok.
They start.
I love tart.
Me too.
I love tart.
Oh, here it is.
Me too.
Salt life, but in different forms.
This is the best.
This is the salt life.
By the way, you should get this.
This is salt life bomb.
It has like chapstick in it.
So I went to Sephora the other day and I picked out a few nice lipsticks and then the line was too long.
So I just wrote down all the numbers and left.
And I went to Tarte and I didn't see this shape lipstick.
I saw this new one and I was like, there's no way that there's salt life.
I just always assume it's discontinued.
So I gave up.
This is shade Salt Life.
I didn't even check out.
So I need to place that order.
I found like a scorched Pat McGrath lipstick that I wanted to get.
Okay.
So.
Tarte has been doing these like really major influencer trips, like honestly on
the same level as Revolve, like with amazing influencers to these amazing places.
And they have truly outdone themselves.
So they're in Dubai right now.
They took like maybe 15 of the biggest and baddest TikTokers to Dubai.
They flew them all first-class Emirates.
Everyone is sharing so much content and they're staying at the Ritz-Carlton in, like, everyone got their own villa.
And you walk into the villa, and there is clothes, makeup, like, it's insane.
It's honestly probably crazier than I've seen any Revolve, anything.
Like, it's insane.
And it's like all the girls that people really love, like Monet McMichaels and Alex Earl, like people who you've been following for a long time.
Alex Earl is there, yeah, and she brought her mom.
Like, it's like, it's because it's like such a big deal, and everyone is like so excited because you, you know, you feel excited for these girls, like you really were a part of their journey.
And of course, everything has to turn negative.
I have seen literally before you even said that, I'm like, when you feel a part of someone's journey, it's about to turn.
Right.
So now, like, the narrative has turned.
I've seen like people being like, this is so wasteful.
Like, we're in a recession with inflation.
This just feels so out of touch.
And it's like, what?
I feel like inflation is such a big problem right now.
And nobody's really talking about it.
But when it comes to the Tarte influencer trip, no one's going to be afraid of it.
Now it's a big, yeah.
Now let's, let's complain about inflation.
Yeah, no, let's.
And direct our ire at people who have nothing to do with it.
Right.
No.
And it's like, yeah, no, inflation is, we are living in dark economic times.
We are headed to slash already in a recession and it's going to be a long time.
Like two things can be true, you know?
But what the fuck does that have to do with Tarte?
And Tart is like a female-owned business.
I, the, the owner, she's really, like, Tarte has really been popping off.
I feel like they had a, a big moment a few years ago.
And then with all these like new brands, they kind of took like a backstep.
And now they're really popping off again.
And so the owner's content has been like coming up on my feed.
She's like, oh, mom, she started this business all by herself.
Like, it's an inspiring story.
Like, what the fuck?
Chill.
Yeah.
I also imagine that so much of it is.
sponsored and paid for.
Like Tarte didn't pay, I don't think, for every single thing.
Like if there's a room full of stuff and all these influencers are going to be posting about it, like it's probably free.
For like Tarte Collab, that's how Revolve works.
Like you give, and actually those brands that Revolve like brings on their trip, the brands pay Revolve.
Like Revolve actually, at this point, makes money from that stuff.
So it's not like Tarte is out here spending so much money.
No, and I wouldn't be surprised if like the Dubai Board of Tourism is also working with Tarte.
Yeah.
Because it's such great, you know, exposure.
Marketing for Dubai.
It's like this great destination to travel.
The Ritz-Carlton, I'm sure they'll be doing, you know, like cool sand dunes, like activities.
So I would not be surprised if they got a lot of it for free.
No, like you could go to a brand and be like, the 15 biggest beauty TikTokers are going to be posting what we are putting in this gift bag.
Do you want to be a part of it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You don't have to pay for that.
Yeah, no, I agree.
So I just like, people, people will make like drama out of anything.
It was so disheartening because it's like, it's exciting.
I love, I'm obsessed with Monet McMichael.
Like, she's really just like a regular girl and she just like really works hard on her content and she has blown up over the last year.
And it's like, it's exciting, like to watch people's hard work pay off.
And it's like,
I actually saw someone say, like, I was reading comments.
I just wanted to see how like unwell people have.
They were like, it's so disgusting that these girls are getting products that are sold out online.
What?
No, Club, that's really disgusting.
People are not okay.
You know what's disgusting?
No, it's like on the one hand, like, let's focus on these big issues, inflation.
Like, yes.
On the other hand, and the products are sold out online.
No, and people have really gotten really carried away with language.
That's disgusting.
No, you know what's disgusting?
Human trafficking, okay?
Calm down.
She said it.
So that's the TikTok update of the day.
Wow.
I want to see these trips.
Yeah, by the way, it looks sick.
Is Michaela there?
I don't know.
I don't think so, actually.
Because she's, to me, as an outsider, like the biggest beauty TikToker.
She is.
She is.
I don't know if she's the most influential anymore, but she's the biggest in terms of numbers.
I think she has 14 or or 15 million followers.
Yeah.
Right.
I would say right now, Alex Earl is the most, everything she posts.
Yes, she's having, you know, her big moment.
Right.
That those moments don't last forever.
So hopefully she's like building a good business around.
Yes.
Yeah, exactly.
So
that's what the kids are up to.
Very exciting.
I hope everyone's having a blast on their trip.
Me too.
So I guess without further ado,
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Our first story.
Kim Kardashian buys famous Princess Diana Amethyst Cross Pendant for $197,453 at auction.
Okay, I know we're living in dark economic times, but I feel like that's like not that much money.
Like for A, like
a piece of jewelry that's probably made, you know, out of the best of the best and that has such historical and cultural significance.
Yes and no.
Like, it's 5.25 carats.
And allegedly, like, this went for double what they thought it was going to go for at the Southeast auction.
So it's, like, I think the
history of something definitely makes it worth a bit more.
But if it's not, like, you know, made out of
canary diamonds,
then it's only worth so much.
But I mean, it's still, it's amethyst.
So it's, it's amethyst.
Okay.
So that's not like, forget me, I'm not, you know, caught kept up on my gems.
But I'm not a gem.
Amethyst is not a diamond.
It's diamond-encrusted amethyst.
Oh, so it has like a border of diamonds, but the main thing, the purple thing, is not diamonds.
It's...
Yeah.
Yeah, because jewelry, like, has sold for, like, there's millions of dollars worth of jewelry.
So I agree with what you're saying.
It's not like the craziest price jewelry thing we've ever heard, but I mean, that's a lot for a fucking necklace.
For sure.
Anyways, on Wednesday, Kim purchased the diamond-encrusted amethyst Atala cross pendant famously worn by Princess Diana at Sotheby's annual Royal and Noble auction.
Are you sweating?
Are you having FOMO?
I'm quaking.
I would love to know what else was sold.
And if this, like, if I were Kim, maybe Granny's license.
Maybe Granny's pantyhose.
Let me just Google Sotheby's Royal and Noble.
And also, it's an annual auction.
Oh.
Also, I wonder who was selling it.
Like, not the
who owns it.
Who owned it?
2023
that's true because i feel like if william or harry had it they wouldn't sell it okay there's a lot of china plates cups glassware furniture old ass furniture was it a necklace owned by diana or worn by diana
great question it was definitely worn by diana but probably no longer owned so that's how they sell sell it yeah so the uh London head of jewelry for Sotheby said this is a bold piece of jewelry by its size, color, and style, which cannot fail to make a vibrant statement, whether it be faith or fashion or indeed both.
We are delighted that this piece has found a new lease of life within the hands of another globally famous name.
So I personally think like this is a great buy for Kim once.
She loves like to wear a big cross.
This is an iconic one.
Christian girly.
It's, you know, a piece of history.
She obviously has the means to buy such things.
And I think that it's in the right hands for its next life.
Yeah, but I could just see, because, you know, everyone hated when she wore the Marilyn dress.
People just being like, this is tacky.
Like, history needs to be preserved.
It's not in the right hands, you know?
Yes, of course, but I don't feel like it's a situation like that.
Like, no, Kim will have bought it.
If she had bought that Marilyn dress,
I think it would have been a little different.
Like, what can you say?
Right.
It's capitalism, baby, you know?
Possession is nine-tenths of the law.
Right.
So it would have been hers to rip.
Rip.
Right.
It would have been hers to rip, Olivia.
No, you're totally right.
I think that this is great.
I always forget, like, Kim is like religious, you know?
Yeah.
Not religious, but like spiritual.
She's pretty religious.
The whole family is.
Right, but you know what's so interesting to me about like other religions and specifically like here.
Kim is Christian
and
Diana and the family, they're Church of England, right?
Yeah.
But that's Catholic.
No.
No, it's not.
It's Protestant.
It's Protestant.
Okay.
It's just so interesting how like you could be like different religions, but you have the same necklace.
You know what I mean?
Well, it's all under one.
No, I get it.
I get it.
I'm sure they have other symbols that vary by
denomination.
Episcopalian dove or something.
Yeah, maybe there's a dove.
Actually, a dove is pretty universal.
I think we love a dove too in Judaism.
Doves are actually, you're totally right.
The dove and the olive branch.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I love olives.
Thanks, Selena.
I do love olives.
Thanks, Selena.
Anyways, I think this is really funny to me.
Like, sorry to cut you off, but, you know, I am alive.
It's so funny to me.
Like, what?
sticks with you, you know?
I feel like you're always quoting like, yeah, you're always quoting like either things that we say on the toast or things from Instagram or things from my comedy special.
And it's never like the funniest moment.
It's like this most random, like, teacher is happy, you know, from my new special coming out soon.
Yeah.
And then from your old special, it's just infinitely quotable to me.
Yeah, no, I just think it's funny.
Like what sticks with you?
I know.
I don't know what it is.
It's something about
the trope.
Like the.
I didn't even think it was that funny when I did that Selena Gomez.
For those who don't know what it's from, I did my food tasting series with Selena Gomez.
I tried olives for the first time with Selena.
And then I ended the video video being like, this is disgusting.
Thanks, Selena.
I love olives.
But the way that you said it was funny.
Was it?
Yeah, go back and watch it.
I actually watched it yesterday.
You were like going to vomit and being like, thanks, Selena.
I love olives.
Well, honestly, you're my biggest fan.
And I can't tell you how much it means to me.
Oh, that's so sweet.
But other question answered that this was owned by
a long line of people who were not Diana.
It was only ever worn by the princess and it hadn't been seen in public until now.
But it had a long-standing history with the court jewelers Garrard, which designed the pendant in the 1920s.
It was later bought by the late Naeem Atala CBE, the former group chief executive of Asprey and Gerard, who often loaned the one-of-a-kind gem to Princess Diana in the 80s.
So if you had like, you know.
It was Diana's from the 80s.
Good one.
Okay, so if you were Kim or like you were you and you had, you know, know, unlimited disposable income to like purchase fashion from like, you know, from history or from, you know, pop culture, like what would you buy?
I would have to look at my options.
Obviously, I wouldn't buy a cross, but
I would definitely look at the royal,
what's up for sale, like in the royal adjacent because they're not selling the crown jewels.
But like, did the Queen Victoria ever get a loan or a necklace?
Yeah, no, I wonder if like Elizabeth Taylor ever did like a big sale of her jewelry and auctioned off any like gorgeous, you know, Jewish star necklace, you know?
Yeah.
She's definitely sold some stuff because I think Kim owns some Elizabeth Taylor stuff.
Oh.
Yeah.
But even in this Sotheby's thing, like there's some really beautiful art.
I could go for some art.
Yeah.
Even the China's nice, but like it's hard to get excited about China when you're only 30.
No, and like you literally can't cook.
Well, me, not you.
No, I like I have wedding china and I've still never used it okay but what's the difference between china and a plate and what it's made out of
so china's like made out of like it's it could be like bone china which is like material or like porcelain and it's very fine so my kate spade home plates not china oh so i don't have any china you need china I literally have never, like, I cannot remember the last time I set my table.
Actually,
you won't use it now.
Like, even now, when I have Thanksgiving, I use my really nice plates.
They're by Lennox.
That would be like your Kate Spade adjacent ones.
But like in your life, you will want China.
You will use China.
I guess you don't have to, but like eventually, like there's a time and a place.
Yeah, I guess.
And it's one of those things that even though you would think like old smelly food plates, they wouldn't get passed down.
Like they're...
They get passed down.
Right.
It's not a wasteful thing.
Like they go for
an heirloom.
It's like an heirloom.
Exactly.
cool there's a lot of swords in the sotheby's auction so far the cross was the only thing i saw so kim did good yeah she must have had her eyes on it for a while yeah i wonder what else she has her eyes on i guess we'll have to find out that she's like waiting to go up for auction yeah
a lot of silk coats So today I actually decided to drink a coffee
because I was up all night crying and I just felt like I was kind kind of tired.
And now I remember why I like stopped drinking coffee.
Like, I have to poop.
Like, that's a real problem.
It is a real problem.
How do you do it?
You drink
two.
There's an Edwardian scale.
What the fuck is that?
A scale?
Like, Fred the Doctor?
Oh, I'm good.
Next to it is an old-ass chair that went for 120 pounds.
I should have like bought a little trinket.
I'm going to skick.
I can't talk.
I'm going to stick with my WW scale that I bought off of Amazon love that for you there's a group of linen and lace vestiments that were 100 pounds okay so there's like you know there's something for everyone some budget items
um
yeah maybe next year I'm sorry you have to poop do you want to go do that no no no I was just wondering like how you podcast having two coffees in you and you don't have to like literally every time we cut run to the bathroom train your bowels or you go before
okay
I'm fine Clench.
I am.
Are you ready for our next story, which is actually a little more Kim adjacent news, considering we haven't talked about her in five months and now today?
And I literally have not spoken about her forever.
Like she's been laying low.
One and two, any story that's been about her, it's just been like kind of annoying.
But today there's two
worth our discussion.
Okay.
Cardi B says, Kim Kardashian gave me plastic surgery advice.
So Cardi B has outed Kim's alleged best-kept secret that she's had plastic surgery.
Right.
Kim has repeatedly denied cosmetic modification claims, but Cardi claimed that the big bootied starlet gave her a list of cosmetic surgeons.
Cardi B was on the first episode of the Jason Lee podcast and she got honest about her nose job and butt lift.
And she said that Kim gave her a list of the most trusted doctors in town.
Okay, that headline's misleading.
A little bit, but so Jason said, okay, so how do you decide who you're going to go to and trust to touch your face and body?
Because I remember the time we were at Chris's house and Kim gave you a list of people you could call and get help.
You didn't call none of those people.
You just did it at home.
Cardi B said, no, I called a couple of the people that she gave me.
Okay, so the headline makes it seem like Kim gave her a list of procedures.
And
here's what you should do.
No, honestly, to me, obviously Kim has had work done.
If she's going to deny it, that's her prerogative.
Honestly, I'm not going to like, you know, get up in arms about it.
But I don't think this is necessarily
an admission of plastic surgery.
Like, Kim, obviously, is the most glamorous woman in Hollywood.
She's very well connected.
I would take a doctor recommendation from her as well.
Yes.
Also, even on her Instagram, like she'll post Dr.
Orion.
Jason Diamond.
Even though what she shows is like her getting like a facial non-invasive.
They also do surgery.
So I feel like
it's not a complete admission.
Also, it's really the other guy who's who like called her out.
And was like, when we were at Chris's house, Kim gave you a list of doctors.
So Cardi B, I don't know if she would have said that if he didn't say it.
Yeah, no, it's getting laid at like
it's getting laid at Cardi's feet.
Like, I'm sure Kim's going to read this headline and be like, bitch.
No, and it makes Cardi B look bad like she was being a gossip.
But this guy was being like a, you know,
the straw that stirs the drink.
Yeah, no, and he's like trying to draw it out of her.
And he said, Kim gave you a list of doctors.
It's the first episode of his podcast.
Like, he obviously wanted to make waves because he was being like a drama queen here.
Yeah.
And he did because we're talking about it.
100%.
Mission accomplished.
So I hope his podcast does well.
We were number four in comedy yesterday.
And like, so.
You can't tell us nothing.
No, you really can't, unfortunately.
You could try.
You could, but you couldn't.
Right.
Yeah.
So anyways,
I don't think anybody on earth really thinks that Kim hasn't had plastic surgery.
The thing is, she's very, choosy about what she says she hasn't had.
Like, yeah, she did this allure story where she said, I haven't,
I've never had eyelash extensions.
I've never done anything.
I've never filled my cheeks.
I've never filled my lips.
I believe her that she hasn't done those things.
Yeah, because if you look back on pictures of her, like, she did always have pretty big lips.
Yeah.
So, and she doesn't actually look like she has crazy fake lips.
Chloe looks like she has a little injection in there.
And Kim doesn't look like she has stuff put in her cheeks.
I feel like Kim wouldn't want filler in her cheeks.
I don't know what I feel like my gut instinct whenever we have this conversation about the the Kardashians, but just about like celebrities in general, like,
you know what?
Like, really, people do not owe us a laundry list of what they've had done.
Like, it's people's bodies, it's their own fucking business.
Like, and I think like this expectation that everyone, because and I get it.
It's like, I get the, the opposing argument, which is like, you know, it's creating this toxic beauty standard to not share what you've had done.
Cause then people will, you know, be like, well, why don't I look like that?
I get it.
But at the same time, like, celebrities are human beings.
And every human being, no matter who you are or what you do for a living, is entitled to privacy especially when it comes to like their body and their physical appearance i agree i'm just out of this mind i agree but i just don't think people should lie but i don't think kim has lied i i like she's clearly like answered bits and pieces of the question but i don't think she's outright said i've not done something that she has done yes that's true So that's what I think, but I think she toes the line pretty well.
And also like nobody really asks her.
I feel like
they know better.
You know what I mean?
Like she has a million interviews.
Nobody asks, like,
what'd you do?
Yeah.
Are you ready for our next question?
Yeah.
Rapper Flo Rida has been awarded nearly $83 million in a fight with an energy drink maker.
I'm obsessed with this story.
I was watching footage of him in court.
They like had to play his music for evidence.
And he was like jamming out.
Can you blow him up?
Whistle, baby.
Whistle, baby.
He honestly, I feel like I know every single one of Flo Rida's song.
I could not not like pick a point it point to you him point him to point him out to you on the street.
Like I have no idea what he looks like.
He's such a P jom.
Yeah, he is.
And now he's getting his big payday.
He was awarded $83 million
on Wednesday after a South Florida jury found that the makers of Celsius energy drinks breached a contract with the rapper and singer and tried to hide money from him.
So it's crazy that it's Celsius because
They're very huge and popular.
I thought it was going to be some like energy drink that I never heard of, but when you hear why and how he got the money, it makes sense.
He had sued Celsius, claiming that the company had violated the conditions of an endorsement deal.
He said, Quote, Basically, I helped birth this company, and all we were looking for was some trustworthy people who acted as if they were family.
And then, when it comes down to the success of today, they just forgot about me.
Lawyers for Celsius argued in court and in previous filings that the company reached its greatest success after the Flowrida endorsement deal ended and that other business decisions led to increased sales and stock value.
Celsius could appeal the verdict, but it wasn't immediately clear if they would.
So basically,
they had terms in their original like sponsorship deal that like when they hit certain benchmarks, Flo Rida would get stock.
Right.
And they were trying to argue that they hadn't hit those benchmarks in order to like not give him what he deserved.
But
justice did its thing and said he deserves $83 million.
No, that's so fucking shady of them.
And I love Flo Rida for like sticking up for himself.
You know, obviously Flo Rida is a man of of means and he has the means, but it's still really scary to go up against like what is probably like a billion-dollar company.
Yeah, especially if they're, I think they were arguing over 1% of ownership that he was promised, and it
turns into 83 million dollars, something like that.
I love this for him.
I had no idea he was such a big part of Celsius's growth.
I don't really drink Celsius, and I didn't know it was like that big of a company.
I feel like it was something like only influencers drink.
Oh, really?
No, I feel like it's so big, and it's a great idea, and it tastes good.
I used to be it.
Let me tell you, I didn't know it was an audio, an audio.
I'm not okay.
I didn't know it was an energy drink.
Energy is kind of like when I heard energy drink, I was thinking something like...
Red Bull monster.
Oh no, I guess that would be this.
Because Celsius is just a carbonated sparkling beverage that has so much fucking caffeine, but it's not nasty like Red Bull.
Like Red Bull like tastes like fuel.
Red Bull is so good.
Celsius tastes just like a sparkling, fruity drink.
Hmm, maybe I'll get into that.
Yeah, you should drink a Celsius in the morning.
Totally.
Yeah, and I used to drink Celsius more when like, I remember I had some Celsius when we were in Nashville because I was like not drinking as much as you guys.
So it's like a fun, it looks like a white claw, but it's no alcohol and just tons of caffeine.
Like that's what I want.
Oh, I kind of love that.
Yeah.
You know, in my old age, I'm like really affected by caffeine.
Like I used to be able to have a Diet Coke at midnight and like go to bed.
I had a Diet Coke at five o'clock last night and that's why I was up till three.
Well just have caffeine free.
Yeah, I know.
Low-key caffeine-free is hard to find like at grocery stores.
It's always gone, and sometimes they just don't even carry it.
I'm sorry, especially Diet Pepsi caffeine-free.
That's like impossible to find.
I don't even know what that looks like.
Me neither.
Because the Diet Coke ones, they're bronze.
They're bronze.
They're kind of stunning.
Yeah, they're like gold metal.
I love this $83 million win for Florida.
I am jealous, but also happy for him.
Yeah.
Oh, can you read on a whistle, baby?
Whistle.
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Our next story has just been bumped for some breaking news.
Oh, what?
Alec Baldwin and the Rust female armorer will be charged with involuntary manslaughter over his fatal shooting of cinematographer Helena Hutchins, and they face up to 18 months in jail.
New Mexico First Judicial District Attorney Mary Carmack Altuiz and Russ Special Prosecutor Andrea Reeb announced the charges in a written statement today.
Both Baldwin and Guterres-Reed face a maximum of 18 months in prison if convicted.
Dave Halls, the assistant director, has pleaded guilty to the charge of negligent use of a deadly weapon.
Quote, the special prosecutor said if any one of these people, three people, Alec Baldwin, Hannah Guterres-Reed, or David Halls, had done their job, Helena Hutchins would still be alive today.
It's that simple.
Alec Baldwin has yet to respond to the charges, but his wife, Hilaria, was seen
the school run shortly before the announcement was made.
All right, she's allowed.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I thought it was going to be she went on Instagram.
Yeah.
I'm shocked.
I know.
I mean, it's so weird because at the end of the day, like a woman died.
A young mother lost her life for no reason.
And somebody should be held responsible.
Yeah.
But also, you know, if everything went went down the way they say it went down, it was like genuinely an accident.
Yeah.
And I guess that's what negligence is.
It's like, of course, you had no bad intentions, but at the end of the day, like there were consequences.
Right.
And like involuntary manslaughter does not carry the same sentence as murder.
It's about intention.
No, I know.
It's just like kind of crazy.
It is, but that's also what a trial is for.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I feel like.
It's crazy that it's that he's actually being charged.
I feel like everyone had kind of forgotten about it.
And it felt like there was just,
it was just being swept under the rug.
But clearly, you know, the judicial forces in New Mexico have been working on this and are not just going to let it fall by the wayside.
So
it's good that there will be a trial.
Alec will have every opportunity to defend himself.
I'm sure he'll have the best lawyers and make the best case for himself.
And also, I think a lot of the truth of what actually happened will come to light because
we have no idea really how that happened.
Like why on God's green, diddly dally
there would be a live bullet on a movie set.
No, 100%.
And
for me, like the story, you're right.
Like everyone kind of like moved on from this very quickly.
And I feel like Alec Baldwin went back very quickly just being a celebrity, posting on Instagram.
And to me, like that's the weirdest and most disrespectful part of it.
Like he definitely took a break, maybe like two months.
But you would think like accidentally killing someone would destroy a person.
Yeah.
And Alec appears to like have bounced back and it's so kind of sociopathic in my mind.
Yeah.
And I'm not saying I want him to be, you know, forlorn for the rest of his life and never be the same.
But a normal human reaction is like, that shit changes you.
Yeah.
You don't know what
his interior life is like, but I would agree with you.
And you would think he would like want to, you know, express on his social media and like just for his image, like
he would want to express it.
He's like pulled back a little, but he hasn't.
Yeah, but then he's out here making videos begging people to follow Hilaria on Instagram.
Also, I would just say, devil's advocate is that if he knows that this is about to become a legal proceeding, if he spent all his time on Instagram talking about how sorry he was, like, that's just and I'm not saying he should do that, that's just not
good in the court, you know.
No, no, I get it, I get it, it's unfortunate because, like,
you know,
it's just
it's so,
it's so weird.
But there's like low-key, like a lot of celebrities who have like killed people.
Involuntarily.
Involuntarily.
I believe Matthew Broderick.
Really?
Yeah, Google it.
He was like driving on the wrong side of the highway like when he was really young.
Caitlin Jenner, that car accident, remember?
Oh, wait, here's an article, 12 famous people who have killed someone.
Yeah, it's like Loki, like, weird.
Okay, okay.
Matthew Broderick, while driving in Ireland with his then-gal pal, Jennifer Gray, oh, from Dirty Dancing.
Dirty Dancing.
She veered into oncoming traffic and crashed into a car head on.
The other driver died, and he was fined $175 for careless driving.
Yeah.
Brandy failed to brake in time and hit the car in front of her.
The other driver.
Brandy Glanville or Ray Jay's sister?
Ray Jay's sister.
Okay.
The other driver was killed, but Brandy was never charged with the crime.
Yeah.
It's kind of interesting.
Yeah.
All very sad.
So, I mean, we'll just have to see.
And you're right.
We have no answer for what the fuck happened.
So a trial isn't the worst thing, just to get to the bottom of it.
Yes, I agree.
And, you know, when someone dies in such a way, like, they deserve a trial.
Like, 100%.
She deserves deserves for this to play out.
And if anybody is responsible to be held responsible.
Wow, what crazy breaking news.
Thank you so much for sharing that.
You're welcome.
Are you ready for our fifth and final story?
I am.
Give me a second because Carol Baskin says her dead husband was found alive, but no one noticed.
Carol Baskin declared that her missing ex-husband, Don Lewis, was found alive in Costa Rica, but the discovery is just now going viral over a year later.
During a reservist November 2021 interview with ITV's This Morning Talk show, Carol alleged that her ex, who was declared legally dead in 2002 after disappearing a few years before, was actually alive and well.
However, not everyone is buying it.
Carol Baskin told the Post herself that she was unaware of the alleged revelation until the sequel series was broadcast in November 2021.
Quote, I was not aware of it until TK2 aired, she said the Post via email, as much confusion and online debate ignited on social media.
The animal rights activists allege in the resurfaced ITV footage that the Department of Homeland Security has been in touch with her former spouse.
Huh.
But she said she didn't know, and then there's an interview where she says she does.
I guess she didn't know until TK2.
And then in the interview, she said that he's alive.
And then the interview has now resurfaced one year later.
My God, we have beat this Tiger King thing so dead.
Like, I don't care.
Okay, I don't care because I never watched Tiger King.
Like, I legit don't care.
But I just want to to say, based on, this is my outside perspective, but like everybody called Carol Baskin a murderer.
She, they like protested her being on Dancing with the Stars because like, yep, there was a vibe that she murdered her husband.
Carol Baskin killed her husband.
Killed her husband.
Waxed him.
Waxed him.
Like the whole country went on and on with this narrative based on just some,
what's the word?
Inferring.
Inferences from a documentary.
And this woman was branded a murderer.
And if her husband is alive, like we owe not me not me because i had no nothing to do with this we owe her an apology a big one you're a hundred percent right and you know who actually really owes her an apology is netflix yeah
like they ran with that narrative and then people loved it but like they started it yeah and it's like if this man was alive like go find him like you guys have research teams like yeah it's just sad and i also feel like if this narrative of her wasn't painted like tiger king was the biggest show in the world like she would have had more of a career, but, like, nobody wanted to lie or the alleged murderer.
No, you're completely right.
It's like all fun and games.
And then when you like sit back and look at this at a glance, it's like, we all, it was like a, like a, just a fact.
Like, Carol Baskin murdered her husband.
You know?
Right.
And she didn't.
And, like, that has consequences.
Yeah.
Can we just go around that?
That's so indicative.
It's so indicative of the world we live in now.
Like, rumors start, people say crazy things.
And then, like, years later, we find out that they're not true.
And there's no like
recourse.
Recourse.
No, I was going to say, yeah, recourse.
Like there's no payback.
Like there's no apology.
That like, I feel like that shit happens all the time.
Literally, Ariel Charnis.
Literally, Mantai Taio.
You see, he welcomed his second baby with his wife?
No, I didn't.
Yeah.
How sweet.
Mantai.
I miss our Mantai era.
I miss our Mantai era too.
I forgot about that.
That was, that to me is like the perfect example of like, we just completely, well, I don't really watch sports, but like, just the world comes up with this narrative and like, it's over for someone.
And run with it.
Like, we don't give anyone ever the benefit of the doubt.
Right.
Right.
And it's like, if you were to give Carol Baskin the benefit of the doubt back, then it's like, you support a murderer?
Right.
But innocent until proven guilty.
It's all very confusing.
I sneezed on it.
It's true.
So
that's the lesson.
The lesson from today's episode, because it's so important to always take a lesson with you.
I'll quote the Bible.
Have they done lechafschoot?
Give people the benefit of the doubt, okay?
Chill.
Chill.
Yeah, and just like
pause, okay?
Just pause for a second.
Take a step back.
Take a step back.
Take inventory.
Love that.
Damn, the episode took a turn.
100%.
But that's our show.
A nice little short Thursday.
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