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morning, millennials.

Welcome back to the Morning Toast.

Happy Tuesday.

I am just floored.

I'm humbled.

I'm feeling disrespected because Miss Shannon Ford is in the building and she had the absolute gall.

You know, I should have put my shit on you.

Like, I decided to look like crap today, and I knew you were coming, and I should have just known better, you know?

I thought about it, and I really, I said, you know, should I do a little dress down moment, a little athleisure?

And then I thought, absolutely fucking not.

I'm not doing that.

I'm like embarrassed to take a photo with you.

We always take a photo after to like promote.

And honestly, I'm embarrassed.

It's like when you show up to see the queen, you gotta just

boss.

We have gotten so many requests for you to come on the toast.

And And to be honest, we hadn't even met until literally last week.

Yes.

And it was just love at first sight.

I agree.

Like, I'm obsessed with you.

You're so pretty and funny.

Like, I die.

I had the most fun last weekend, too.

I feel like it was the best atmosphere to meet for the first time.

100%.

We kikied our way through the whole night until four in the morning.

We painted the town, I don't even know.

Like, so many colors.

So many colors.

So many colors.

Too many colors.

You are in New York early now.

A lot of people know you, of course, from your time on reality TV, which I want to get into just because that sounds like the worst thing ever.

I don't think I could ever be on reality TV.

I'm far too insecure.

And now you're just influencing, podcasting, taking over the world.

You just got a place in New York.

I did.

It's

a lot to learn.

Like, I remember putting it, I put in the GPS to get here.

I was like, she's an Upper East Side girly pop.

I'm in Soho.

I'm going to make sure that we are on time.

And I was still profusely sweating through this

beast of an outfit because I was like stunning.

I just gave myself 45 minutes to get here, but I'm just still not sure if we're on time.

So learning a lot.

I have like a bodega that's like right downstairs, and and I'm trying to be all like New York and I keep like waiting for them to remember who I am and like remember my order and they're just like, what do you want?

And I'm like, yeah, it doesn't work like that.

It takes years, like actual years.

Truly.

Truly, yeah.

And they always, I can see them silently judging me whenever I get mayonnaise on my sandwich.

They're like,

yes.

What is your go-to bodega order?

I just get a sausage, egg, and cheese.

And also they're like rolling.

Mayo?

Yeah.

I don't eat sausage, egg, and cheeses, but I know like a lot of people do, and I've never heard of anyone putting mayo on.

I know.

Nobody does, really.

I put mayo on like everything.

Like I just, I'm a mayo girly.

This friendship was going places.

I know, but we've, we're at a halt.

A lot of people share that same sentiment, and it's upsetting, but I just, I'm a Mayo girly through and through.

Through and through.

I'm a press-on naily girly.

So I get it.

The episode with Hannah Berner.

Yeah.

We all have our things.

We all have our vices.

Ben is a Mayo girly as well.

Okay.

Yeah.

It's a good condiment.

What is your opinion on like light Mayo?

Because Ben has like a full dissertation written on it.

Yeah, for me personally, I'm immediately out.

Yeah.

I want nothing to do with it.

I don't know why it's a thing.

It's just absolutely appalling, and I don't think it should be on the shelves.

I think the FDA really fucked up with approving that one.

I completely agree.

Me and Ben over the weekend, I just came back from Texas, and Ben got a burger, and he wanted, it was an impossible burger.

And Ben wanted mayo, and they brought him vegan mayo.

Not interested.

And he was like really upset.

Yeah, immediately out.

Immediately out.

You're doing the things you need to do by getting an impossible burger.

Give us the real mayo.

Right.

And you know, I've actually, oh,

that's why they brought him vegan mayo because it was an impossible.

Yeah, well, probably, yeah.

Oh, damn.

I didn't think about that either, though.

I'm like, he's trying to be good.

He's eating an impossible burger.

Give him the real stuff.

Oh, my God.

No, that makes sense.

That's actually extremely considerate.

It's really nice, actually.

Oh, my God.

That's so nice.

I didn't even think of that.

I'm joke.

Okay, so you're so now you're like between Nashville and New York?

Yeah, I spend time in both.

It's just, you know, I was coming here so often.

This summer, whenever I was at the Spritz.

Yes.

Oh, that's where we first met, actually.

Yeah, true, true.

Hang.

In Kiki.

And I didn't know anyone there, and I didn't want to be like the girl following the hosts around.

So I was just like, hi.

And then I was like, literally so fucking lonely.

And

I know, it's no one's responsibility.

But I was like, you know, like, I go into these events and I'm like, first of all, I am like extroverted.

I'm going to talk to people.

And then I'm just like sitting next to the bartender, like, so how long have you guys been here?

And she's like, you got to go.

But also, that was the time where I wore that outfit.

Stunning.

Thank you.

But it was like a very, they sent a dress code out before.

hand that was like I talked about this on my podcast I guess New Yorkers like don't give a fuck about a dress code really

and so the dress code was like cute little like fruit emojis for Spritz.

Colors.

Yeah, like bright colors.

And I was like, not a problem.

And I dressed like a fucking Fanta girl.

You nailed it.

And I think everyone thought I worked there.

One girl did ask me where the bathroom was.

And I don't know if it's because she thought I had gone or if she thought I worked there, but I felt like I should be holding a tray passing stuff out because everyone was in like navy blues and blacks.

You know what's so funny that that's your experience from the Spritz party?

Because how I perceived it, you're like really intimidating.

Like you're so tall.

You have this presence about you.

You're literally like a supermodel.

So

my impression of you was like, oh, she's like too cool.

Like, let me just be nice.

Like, I want to be your friend.

So, like, that's funny.

That's what your perception was because you didn't give that off.

I was like, she is just like.

too cool for us.

I met Remy that day too.

Like we were standing in line at the elevator together.

And so, no, I still, I feel like people reached out to me afterwards on Instagram and were like, oh, I saw you at the party.

So I made friends and connections from that party, which is really nice.

That is nice.

Yeah, for the most part, the bartenders were like, we have work to do here.

But we can't talk to you.

And I was like, what is this that you're mixing with the tequila?

And I love that.

That is fun.

And they were like,

go away.

Go away.

You're also a podcaster now.

You've had like a lot of podcast drama.

Me and Jackie were like really invested in this, right?

Oh, yeah.

Can you tell me like what happened with your podcast?

Yeah, so it was like one of those moments where it's almost like, you know, how there's people who have podcast drama, like obviously like an iconic one, the caller daughter daddy, right?

Of course.

So that was like dramatic as fuck and they don't talk anymore and like whatever, right?

Mine was harder because it was my, it's my actual like really dear friend i was just in florida with her and she was like completely taking like a shift on her life and just like woke up one day and like truly purely was like i don't think this aligns with what i want to do anymore and moved to florida with my husband and i was like

what are you going to tell your best friend like when she's doing the best thing for her for her and you know that and that's what she wants to do i was just like

oh

okay like i was just like okay what do you want to do i'm going to lose my podcast and my best friend or i just want to lose the podcast so then i you know i was like, I'll just rebrand.

And then my four-year relationship, I ended that like within the same like month and a half period.

So then I was like, you know, I'm going to take a little break from just talking.

I don't think I should be talking to anyone right now like on the inner webs.

I think I should just lay the fuck low for a bit and kind of like process these like, honestly, losses that

are that it was less drama.

It was more just like, it was fucking sad.

It was just a big bummer.

And we, you know, like, I don't even know how this happened, but we like charted really like number one.

You didn't know your podcast was killing it.

It was crushing it.

And we just had so much momentum.

And I was so excited.

And then I was just like, you know, as high as you are, it's like the further the fall.

So it's just like,

okay, well, and then you go through that perfectionism where you're like, I can't restart because what if it's not as good as the other one?

And then you have people being like, just start.

And that's anything in life.

You just need a starting, especially with the podcast.

Like, you can talk about it.

You can whatever.

Just, you don't need a business plan.

Just start it.

Yeah.

It'll come afterwards.

Yeah.

So, anyways, that's the, it wasn't as much, and now it's so, I mean, it's been so, it feels like it's been so long.

And you and your friend are still good.

I was just at her house for four days, literally.

That's right.

I just wasn't there.

You love to see female friendships getting through tough times.

Yeah, and like I said, if any friend in life is like doing something to better themselves, who the fuck are you to not want them to do that?

That doesn't make you a real friend anymore.

And like, if you get mad at it, then like you're the toxic one.

You're toxic, yeah.

So me, not toxic friend.

Do you think you're toxic?

Am I the drama?

Am I the villain?

I think I'm the villain.

I think I could have probably a couple toxic traits, but I recognize them and I'm like, ooh, you're doing that thing.

Yeah, is it toxic if you recognize it?

Because I don't think so.

I don't think so personally, but that's probably just me saying that for myself.

That's you being toxic.

That's me being toxic.

That's one of my toxic traits.

Yeah.

I think my toxic trait, which you've probably already realized, is I talk over everyone.

I do that too.

And so I just want to apologize in advance.

I'll also apologize in advance, but I probably won't because I'm a little scared of you and being on the step.

So I probably won't talk over you, but like I do that on my podcast and I have to like literally fucking stop myself.

It's hard.

Yeah, it's tough.

It is.

Especially when I get into a group with Jackie.

Like we do a dance.

It's like us speaking.

It's like we know when to, it ebbs, it flows.

I know when to stop.

Y'all are perfect at it though.

And then like when she's gone and I'm here meeting new people, which I love and it's great for the podcast, it's different.

I literally don't know how to talk.

It's bad.

I had to like issue a formal apology, like a formal apology on my podcast after I had like a guest, this guy.

And like every review, every single one of them.

And here's the thing, like I was editing the podcast at the time.

So they don't even realize I cut out how much, right?

I cut out more times I interrupted him, actually.

Like I interrupted him more, but I was cutting it out.

So when every review was like, you cannot stop interrupting him, I was like, well, I don't think they're all just saying this to be rude.

No, but it's your actual helpful feedback.

Yeah, it is.

So anyways, that was, that's that on that.

I don't think I'm that toxic.

Do you read a lot of podcast reviews?

Because you should stop.

I don't.

I really do just forget about them.

I read, I'm on Instagram, so I read, and no one's on Instagram posting, this was the worst podcast ever.

Right.

People are saying the nicest things.

Yeah, so I don't, I always forget that you can go to iTunes.

Because it takes a bit.

You have to go to iTunes.

You have to click on your podcast.

You have to see more.

Yeah, so I actually, luckily, I forget about that kind of thing.

Me too.

It's like the one place I don't check because I always forget that they exist.

And I'm glad about that because, yeah.

Yeah, like Reddit obviously hates me.

And Reddit hates everybody, though.

Why do people hate you?

Like, I know why people hate me, but why would people hate you?

I think it's pretty easy.

I just have to preface, I didn't watch Barry Cavallari.

Jackie did.

No, no.

If it's from that, I don't know.

Barry Cavalieri is, it's very rare people are still disliking me from that.

That was like a really long time ago when I was on it for one season.

And yeah, no.

But now I think people probably just dislike me because I'm like really over the top, really talkative.

I do like the, I do the most.

You do the most.

Like all the time.

And some people just don't like people that do the most.

And some people are like.

do the most

like i don't know i my entire life i've just literally always been you either like me or you just cannot fucking stand me and my whole life i was so fixated on like getting everyone like me like i mean my mom would have to sit me down and be like my girl right it's just not gonna happen and i i feel very happy that I've passed that point in my life where I try to make everyone lie.

And I can tell pretty quickly, I'm like, oh, oil and water, we don't really mesh.

But sometimes it sucks because I'll really like the other person.

But, you know, that's life, and it is what it is.

So, in the words of Danielle Staub, you're either going to love me or hate me.

There is no in-between.

There is no in-between.

And I'm very much, I find that a lot of people who like work in this space have that.

I'm very similar.

Like, all I want in this world is to be universally beloved.

Same.

And for anyone, that's not a thing, especially if you're a podcaster.

Like, you're always going to be

dividing.

I'm always a polarizing person i always have polarizing like hot takes on things and so like yeah as do you and so i just it would be

ignorant to think that everyone is gonna be like i just love that little girly pop yeah girly pop you know and you know what else is so interesting to me about you like just having followed your the arc of your career since the show i think a lot of people who have been in a similar space have as you have kind of become that girl from that show.

And I think that in the years since you left the show, like, I don't even remember that you were on that show.

Like, you've done such a good job of like creating a space for yourself on the internet with your podcast, with your Instagram, just all your content.

And I think that that's so hard.

So I really commend you for that.

Thank you.

No, it's, I mean, I was also like, I don't want to say that the whole show was edited.

Like, I was saying and doing this thing.

But I was totally playing a character.

And like, of course, Kristen honestly was really like nice and guiding me through the whole process.

And she was like, you know, we need someone polarizing.

We need kind of a villain.

And I was like, I'm volunteering tribute.

Right.

Because I was like, if I'm going to stoop to, this was five years ago, not that, like, like, if you're doing reality TV you were like right it wasn't like yeah it wasn't like yeah I can't wait to see your season it was like you're going on a reality TV show yeah and so I was like if I'm gonna do this trash shit then I'm gonna fucking do it

yeah like honestly yeah it panned out so it's not yeah you gotta be polarizing you couldn't be here without that Totally and people are always like you don't always talk shit about I'm like no I don't I'm like very understanding that that was my giant platform right but I also am who I am and I don't like like I said I didn't create a character and then just stick in that character so this is actually me and I'm doing the work now so now that I like know you I really want to go back and watch a show just because tragic and my teeth were so long

like

my teeth were trending on Twitter after the show

so mean it was very do you have new teeth now um so I had him shave them down this is actually when I leave tomorrow and to go to Houston to get new teeth oh my god I just got back from Houston yesterday oh yeah yeah yeah gorgeous town gorgeous gorgeous town gorgeous gorgeous girls gorgeous girly gorgeous new teeth in Houston love that for you good good luck yeah they're gonna crack them off the ones I have now with like a pecan cracker.

So just like let that marinate for a second because I am.

So you have veneers as well.

I have veneers now that I don't love.

And so to get these veneers off, they're porcelain, they get like a pecan cracker and crack them off.

Oh my God, beauty is pain.

That is just like put me out.

They should put you out.

Put me out.

You get like numbing.

I asked for some laughing.

Yeah, you get numb, but I asked for some laughing gas and she was like, yeah, we're going to give you that.

Right.

Well, because then like you're awake, but until you hear all the sound.

It's the sound and the pressure and the like.

I'm like, my nipples are hard.

Well, Shannon is here to join me, of course, to deliver the past five.

I actually have six stories today just because it's been a while since we did a show because I was on tour.

Thanks to everyone who came out to the shows, by the way.

I'll be at Chicago on Friday and Kansas City on Sunday.

And today is Tuesday, and we usually normally do this on Monday, but I did want to get your input on Unburden Yourselves, which is a segment we do here on Mondays from the Morning Toast, where people can just write in, you know, have you ever had a weekend where you know you were having fun, but something you did was so embarrassing that it ruined, like you can't think think about the weekend without thinking about the time you fell in front of Mary Cat Olsen.

That's what happened to me.

And that's what spiraled this entire.

Oh my God.

It might have been Ashley.

I'm not sure.

But that's what started this whole segment.

It feels good to just unburden yourself.

Once you talk about it, you can really set it free.

Do you think that the guy that fell in the pool at the Spritz party, like

that was his.

That was his.

Yes, that happened at the Spritz party.

So we've all been there, and it makes you feel less alone.

So we have three submissions from girlies who wrote in.

We'll do that at the end of the show.

And I do believe that you might unburden yourself with something you did recently.

Let me me think.

I was just in Florida.

I had this, which in West, we were in West Palm, which is a beautiful beautiful town.

And it was just, it was very, it was hot there.

It was a humid place.

This isn't like that, but when you brought this up before the show, I was like, oh, what was I like so?

I gave myself the ick about.

I just like kept, I was in front of a lot of important people and I kept like not liking my hair.

So I went to the bathroom and I would like put it in a, I put it in like a clip with like little pieces hanging front.

And I came back.

Slud strands.

Someone was like, oh, I like your hair.

I was like, it's just so hot.

And then I like went to the bathroom again and was was like I hate my hair and so I took it down and I put two braids in the front and I came back and I think I realized by the end of the day when this like guy was like you just like have had like four hairstyles since you've been here I just realized I looked like that girl that was just like I don't know and that I mean like I was inserting braids at some point like that's just too that's a commitment we should just you know take it easy just have a little bit of frizzy hair and I was embarrassed that someone literally was like

seeing you here you've had four hairstyles he called you out honestly that was disrespectful of him that was rude as fuck rude as fuck um okay well thank you for sharing that.

I hope you feel better, lighter.

I do.

And you can move forward with, you know, a more positive energy.

Less hairstyles, more positivity.

Less hair.

Everything we have to unburden ourselves with, we learn a lesson from.

We do.

For me, it was like, stop wearing such big shoes, you know?

Were you wearing big shoes?

I was wearing Lodhoppers, like huge boots, platform, probably six inches.

And it was like three in the morning.

Like, I didn't even trip.

I don't know how I fell.

I just collapsed, literally.

Oh, this is whenever, this is when you actually fell in front of Mary or Ashley.

In front of Mary slash Kate slash Ashley.

Yeah, it was just so embarrassing.

And I was with my, I've told the story a thousand times, but I was with my friend Gabe and like, I was like, did you see that?

And he was walking right in front of me when I fell.

He was like, no.

So I was like, okay, maybe it wasn't as bad.

And I like tricked myself into, and I came on the podcast.

I talked all about it.

And I was like, but Gabe didn't see.

So like, Gabe said it was fine.

And then literally a week later, Gabe was like, no, I saw it.

I just didn't want to make it feel bad.

It was really bad.

And so now, like, honestly, unburdening myself hasn't made it better, but now making it into a segment at least it was worth something it was worth something it was worth the content and also now we're wearing less plastic sensible sensible shoes.

Like I'm married.

I don't need to be wearing like crazy heels, you know?

We were wearing some some tall we all took our shoes off when we were out.

Where wait, what was I wearing?

I was wearing the shoes that I wore with you when we went out were the shoes I wore when I met.

No, yep.

Well, you took them off.

And I'm like, we all did.

But now

we're in the face and we're not.

You really want to be the only girl taking your shoes off.

Margo did it first and I was like, you know what?

Love that.

I would love to take these off.

Yeah, but like if you're the only girl like wearing your shoes, it's like you're the one who can't hang.

Yeah.

So you never want to be the only girl to take off her shoes, but Margo really created a safe space for us to do that.

She did.

I will always be the girl to like go to the buffet line first or something, but I will not be the girl to take my shoes off first.

Actually, I'm more conscious of food, so I'll be like the last person online for the buffet, but I won't be wearing shoes.

Okay.

Yeah.

We're barefoot in the buffet line.

We're barefoot in the buffet.

That'll be the name of my next book.

Barefoot at the buffet.

Okay, so I think it's time.

Shannon, are you ready to dive in?

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All right, Shannon, are you ready for your first fast five?

I'm so ready.

So the first thing we have to talk about is the Grammys.

They were on on Sunday.

I did get a chance to watch them after my show, and they were cute.

I did the recap via you.

Yeah, they were cute.

They were cute.

Obviously, everyone was like, I like got very over all the like Slap talk like so quickly.

I know.

We were all just like marinating in it and we were just like,

so everyone was talking about the Grammys.

And I don't realize, I didn't realize the Grammys came so soon after the Oscars.

I know.

And I just like, to be honest, like, I'm still living in the Oscars.

Yeah, well, everyone is.

Yeah.

So, like, when that happened, I was like, I'll look at the outfit.

Yeah, and you know what?

I felt like there was like kind of a lot of star power missing.

Like, you know, Beyonce wasn't there, Taylor Schwib wasn't there, Ariana Grande wasn't there.

I didn't feel like it was really star-studded.

It just felt like a very new age.

Yes, young.

Which like those photos honestly will like be iconic later on.

Yeah.

We'll be like, oh my god, look at Olivia Rodrigo when she was so young.

True.

But like in the moment, we're like, where the fuck is Taylor Swift?

Yeah, I know.

And she was nominated for Album of the Year.

And a lot of people are quaking because it was...

I thought it was going to be like Olivia Rodrigo sweep.

She was nominated in the big four categories.

Yes.

New artist, album of the year, song of the year, record of the year.

And she only won New Artist of the Year.

She won two other Grammys, but not in the big four categories and people were like quaking over jean-baptiste who i cannot lie i have not heard of i now know he's like the

um band leader for the stephen colbert show okay and when i was watching his performance me and ben were like this guy is everything like he was giving the most yeah so was i extremely surprised yes but i have to imagine that's how other people felt when casey musgraves won now everyone loves casey musgrave but some of us have been on the train for four or five years and like we knew but i'm sure a lot of people were like who well you know do you remember when that that that um i mean i know he's iconic but i don't know

beck yeah oh yeah when he swept the the grammys everyone was like everyone that i know was like who the fuck is beck and then right and then i remember roles reversed whenever chris stapleton swept the grammys i being from nashville know and obsess over chris stapleton but at the time everyone was like who the

and i was like don't you dare right chris stapleton is iconic so like but i guess it just begs the question

what is album of the year is it about the the music that reached the most people Because I think in that case, it would have been Olivia Rodrigo or Billie Eilish.

I had to.

And she nominated as well.

Yes.

And Taylor Smith, Billie Eilish, Olivia Rodrigo.

Like, it was stacked.

Yeah.

So what is Album of the Year?

Is it, you know, songs that sold the most?

Or according to the Recording Academy, was the best?

Like, substantially?

I think it's, I think the Recording Academy, they pick it, like, based on their style.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I was just, I'm shocked.

I'm not going to lie, like, really shocked.

I think, like, happier than ever is that the one that was nominated.

I mean, mean that album top to bottom top to bottom and then Olivia's like I don't even have to go into like top to bottom like the new album

like I'm a I'm an Evermore girl like Taylor Swift has done so much in the last few years people like crap their pants over folklore I did too but like

I really believe not enough people are crapping their pants for Evermore.

I had this debate with my friend because I like Evermore better than

me too.

So I just like resonate with some of the songs more.

I just think they're just like so, so vibrant.

Special.

I love them.

I think a lot of people consider Evermore to be like an afterthought of folklore, but I totally quickly.

But I totally disagree.

It was like songs that weren't good enough for folklore, but I think it's better.

I like it better.

But I will say, like, and I'm a Taylor Swift stan,

stand, stand, stan.

But if we were like going to put the two albums, I do think Olivia's was better than Evermore.

Yes, I agree.

I mean, personally, like my toxic trait is just like blindly following Taylor into, like, off a bridge.

Like, I will do anything into the abyss.

But yes, I agree.

And I loved loved sour.

Like I listened to it back and forth all summer.

So for me, it was like kind of a no-brainer that she was going to sweep and they just like didn't give it to her.

So I thought that was weird.

But I don't really believe in like getting mad, unless it's for Taylor, but I don't really believe in like getting mad.

Every artist deserves it.

Like if you made your way to the Grammys and you got nominated, like in one way, you all deserve it.

So even though I might not have chosen it and I wasn't really familiar with his work, I thought that the Grammys were a great commercial for him because I was like, this guy's energy is everything.

And you had left being like, oh my God, we loved him.

And now you know who he is.

And now I'm learning so much about him.

Like he, he was secretly married because his wife for the second time was diagnosed with leukemia.

And so they just got married.

And it's like this really romantic story.

So we're just learning things about someone we might not have learned.

And I think that's great.

That is great.

Now, what did you think about the performances and the looks?

Like, what stood out to you?

I thought, I just like Stan Carrie Underwood as well.

Her performance, she just like kills it every time.

I'm a country, like.

Me too.

I'm a country girl throwing throat.

Me too.

Put that dress on the red carpet, like crime.

Crime against women.

And like, I just like, I can't imagine she's ever going to hear the shit I say, but like, just like bad.

Like, really bad.

Like, I always feel bad talking shit about someone's dress because, you know, they felt so good in it.

Like, they would never have, like, left.

But, like, that was, it was, it was a war crime.

I don't feel bad like at all because let me tell you why.

Um, it's a dress.

Carrie Underwood is not her clothing.

And, like, when you are literally releasing songs and making millions of dollars off of one song, like, I'm allowed to make fun of your dress.

Well, who wasn't telling her that it looked like a botched bell?

You know what?

I actually saw TikTok today that really spoke to me, and it was no one's like, I don't want to be mean, but like the women in country, like, really, from a fashion perspective, were disgraceful.

Not it at the Grammys.

The best was Kelsey Ballarini.

I think that was beautiful.

Yeah, classy.

Classy, simple.

And the rest, it was, you know, Carrie Underwood's mustard yellow moment.

It was Marin Morris's snakeskin dress with a bra popping out, which I didn't understand.

And Mickey Guyton's

atrocity.

I didn't see Mickey Guyton's episode.

It was velvet shoes.

It was fringe, long sleeve.

She's just like a young, stunning star on the rise.

It was aging her.

Yeah, it was like the women in Country just did not show up fashion-wise, but they did show up in every other aspect.

So did Country in General.

Brothers Osborne won.

Oh, did they?

For like.

I just watched the recap on your, so I didn't see as many performances.

I just keep seeing the clips.

By the way, same.

I saw it on TikTok.

But it was a big deal.

And he talked about coming out and how he never thought he would have it.

It was just like, I was so emo.

Like the way I would take a bullet for TJ Osborne.

I was going to say, everyone in town thinks that, though oh good okay everyone in town is like oh would you ever date a country singer yeah well I did for four years but I mean not like a not sorry I'm not my ex John Kearney he's a great country singer but he's not like you know okay what about Brett Eldridge for you Brett Eldridge for me that sounds ideal but I'm pretty sure he's dating like a supermodel right now is he yeah he's so mysterious with his like dating life he's so quiet he's like literally chase rice chase rice my best friend dated him for three years so that's not gonna work yeah yep yep damn um you know we'll keep thinking we'll keep we'll keep running through it i don't know I think that I probably,

I like, I like that everyone in town is like, she's not a star fucker.

Yeah.

I like that about me.

Yeah, I like that about you too.

Yeah, so that's nice.

And I feel like I get invited to everything.

Because you're not trying to like.

No one's like, oh my God, this bitch is going to come and like flirt with every

like we're keeping it nice and classy and low-key.

And like, I like that about me.

That takes a lot of restraint because I imagine if I were you, like, I would be star fucking my way to the top.

No, I'd be fucking.

I just try not to fuck stuff.

I'm low.

I'm low.

I outsource the dick.

So we're like, we're flying out.

We're having people fly in.

We're outsourcing the dick.

And then in my town, everyone's like, what a saint.

Okay, and so I like how we're just blowing up your spot right here.

When you get flown out for a dick, do you pay for your own flight?

I've actually never, like, it'll be me already being where I'm at.

And like, maybe I'll meet someone or maybe someone will set us up.

God, okay.

That's nice.

I've never had a man buy me a purse, a flight.

Like, honestly.

Gentlemen.

I'm open to the opportunity, but like that's queen.

You get a bag sitting over there.

Like, no, I've never had a bad person.

You bought that purse yourself, that fancy.

You bought it yesterday.

Yesterday.

Wow.

She's a new girly.

You need like a man to buy you a Birkin now.

Yeah.

Where are they at?

They're not watching.

I know that.

I know.

We have a very, very straight audience.

Same.

Maybe they have brothers.

Do you have a brother that wants to buy me a Birken?

Give me a brother, Birkin.

Yeah, you need a Birkin brother.

So other than that, it was kind of boring, the Grammys, but it was fine.

Love Doge Cat.

No one in, there was no like.

Oh, I liked her outfits a lot.

Mine?

Yours?

Always.

Doja Cats.

Me too.

She was probably the best dressed, in my opinion.

I love just like cutouts and tie.

I just love sexy little bodies.

Yeah, I think Halsey also's up there for best dressed.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I love a hat.

Hers is really cool.

It was different.

So, I don't know.

Maybe my bar is super high because of the slap, but I was like, when is something crazy going to happen?

Well, now everyone's thinking that about everything.

I know.

Should I slap you while we're here?

Please.

Oh, my God.

You're the only person I would be like cool with this.

I thought Trevor Noah was fine.

Trevor Noah.

The host.

Right.

He was fine.

Okay.

Well, indifferent to it, obviously.

Yeah, he was just like really professional and like really not funny.

Ooh, do you think he was scared?

Because of course.

Oh my gosh.

See, that's sad.

Yeah, of course.

And I think just like in general, beyond the slap, being a host is a thankless job.

Like, it's so much work, especially if you're doing it as a woman.

They have you change outfits a thousand times.

And every, you're always, someone's always going to be like, that was boring.

That wasn't good.

I mean, there's no one that's just like, he killed it through and through.

Someone always has something to say about one part of it.

You can't win because you're either like, if you really go there and say like crazy jokes, like Amy Schumer's getting backlash now.

Right.

Or so you're boring and then everyone's like, you're boring.

right it's I don't think I don't think there's a worst job in Hollywood honestly and you're there for so long and half the shit is not even your written jokes no of course it is no it's like you you like get all this backlash and you're like wait but it wasn't mine yeah like I didn't even have to have crunnier jokes right totally the Academy would let me say them yeah so it's like

so you know what it was fine that's where I'm gonna leave it yeah I didn't watch last year's ratings were like an all-time low and they're slightly up this year so I think people were adjust to

see yeah but I also think like they tried to combat that they were streaming on paramount plus which was like a first you can watch it on cbs okay so i think they thought the ratings would be like much higher with a streamer right um and i think that maybe for a while we thought like award shows were irrelevant because they're on cable but now we think they're irrelevant just because they're irrelevant not because they're not on a streaming service well and we're just so like we're so privileged with all these you and and e-news and all these things that just like like regurgitate it for us that we so easily to dive into

i know everything that happened and i was on stage for more than half of the show Yeah, we don't have to, I don't have to watch it, and I don't want to watch the boring Grammys because I can just get the good shit the next day.

I know.

And it's like when the real A-listers don't come to this point.

I agree.

Okay, well, thanks for breaking down the Grammys with me, Shannon.

Of course.

And we have some more news.

It is a Kardashians heavy day, but like there's major Skims news because her new campaign is literally breaking the internet.

Wild.

She has hired Heidi Klum, Tyra Banks, and Alessandra Ambrosio for her new, oh, and Candace Wanpole for her new Skims campaign.

So she is, you know, kind of eclipsing the angels.

The Shapewear Mogul's new swims icon campaign has supermodels Tyra, Heidi, Alessandra, and Candace posing together for the very first time.

In the ads, the four former former Victoria Secret Angels show off the Skims Fitz Everybody collection of thongs, bras, and bodysuits.

And Kim wrote on Instagram that her shoot was a blast.

She said, It's been a while since we were all together, so it was so special to be reunited.

And allegedly, like, it was just going to be the four of them, but then Kim was there and she was like, I have to get in one photo.

So So, there's pictures of the four, and then there's pictures of them with Kim.

And I'm dead because, like, at what point are you like, I'm gonna pop in?

Oh, yeah, like imagine the confidence.

What was that conversation?

She's just like, I mean, obviously, Kim Kareshi, iconic and totally body, right?

Everything.

Yes, everything.

But I just can't imagine being like, so let me just pop in for one.

I don't know.

Also.

Like, I think it's absolutely wild that she had all those people in one place.

I know.

What is their marketing budget?

I mean, they're like now valued like over, I think, almost $2 billion.

So like like they have a lot,

skims alone.

So they have a lot of money.

And so this isn't surprising.

And I do feel like this is kind of eclipsing some of the progress Victoria's Secret has made in the last couple of months.

Like Victoria's Secret has made it extremely clear that they are going to be like moving forward, like revamping the brand, more inclusive.

Like they made huge waves when they signed Remy and they

love Remy.

And I love that for them.

And I love that they, they, didn't they acquire Frankie's bikinis?

They just bought like an $18 million stock in Frankie's bikinis.

So they're really trying to make progress.

And I feel like this is just like shutting that down because like this is so iconic.

I mean, leave it to Kim to just like shut them the fuck.

They're like whoever's in the boardroom that's like, we've got it, we've done it.

Mark the T, dot the I.

And Kim's like, nope.

No.

Yeah.

So that was easy.

My first thought was like, wow, this is iconic too.

Like, oh my God, Victoria's Secret cannot catch a break.

No, cannot.

Cannot.

Well, I mean, they're making up for a lot of.

I know.

Like, they're really, like, they have Amira from TikTok who's amazing.

They have Remy from TikTok.

I think that they are like really trying to undo all the damage they did in those really toxic years.

Yeah.

But to be honest, like, I don't know if a lot of people are really interested in a Victoria's Secret revamp because I'm very much like a Skims girly now.

Well, I just like can't wear Victoria's Secret and not feel like young.

Like, I feel like I'm in high school.

I can't wear Victoria's Secret, period.

Like, my breasts are cheating.

Like, I literally can't wear it.

You know, like Skims, when they have the Fits Everybody collection, like, it truly fits everybody.

I, I literally feel like it's a travesty that for most of my life, I thought I was a D-cup because Victoria's Secret makes you think

do you know how many men I was like I mean I'm a 34d and who they were like bitch the fuck you are

you aren't you're so right like their sizing is so toxic and so incorrect and I feel like the first time I learned what bra size I truly was was when I took literally the third love quiz because third love bras and I was like oh man that's my actual size and I've been moving forward with that size now and the peace of mind and clarity I have I've never felt more lucid.

Yeah, well, it's crazy too.

No one feels good when they're wearing a size that it's labeled something different or whatever.

All of that just shit does not feel good like

i think people think i'm smaller than i am this half i was talking about this on my instagram because people will send me extra small shit like oh yeah

yes and i'm like

i'm just not an extra small i'm really not i'm i'm a medium and so i just want to wear size medium things and you know people are always sending me extra small and it's so annoying like guys i'm an extra extra small like please get my size get it away get it right

i think any sizing just sucks when it's like not portrayed correctly you just you're gonna feel bad especially in like fast fashion where like the sizes just whack and like when you shop online so much and then every now and then you'll go into like a department store and you're like buy you're you're literally taking clothes into the dressing room that are three four sizes bigger because that's what you're used to buying on sheets yes it's so toxic for like your mental health you do that i yeah i'm like okay well i'm probably gonna go ahead and grab a xyz in this and then i'm like wait this is normal made clothes like this is well made clothing so i'm probably the size that i actually am but fast fashion is it's crazy as hell it's crazy as hell but it's so cheap so everything's everything's so small so you're literally sizing up two three sizes no stretch no give no engagement nothing and that's why i just love kim more than anything and i i could literally write a thesis on this like when kim did fendi x

skip yeah it was fendy x scams and like there were not only plus size models on the website but like literally sizes that fendi has never made in their life i'm like this is so love iconic like yeah it's just the fact that this isn't the normal is so stupid and the fact that kim was able to get fendy to size up is just next level like they're literally on the totem pole of like designer brands.

Right.

And like they don't like waiver for anyone and they don't give a shit about any like bad.

Like really I feel like brands that big just don't care about bad press.

They're like whatever we're gonna be iconic.

We're Chanel, we're Fendi, we're whatever.

Exactly.

So the fact that Kim Kardashian could come in and like make them sell like these three X4X sizes, iconic.

No, and you know what?

I feel like the Kardashians get so much shit for like setting an unrealistic beauty standard, Chloe specifically.

And I don't even want to get into that because I don't agree with it, but like

there's a huge conversation about it.

And no one even talks about like Good American.

All my clothes are from Good American, it's literally the best website, except their returns are like a little fucked.

But like Courtney, I mean, Kim and Chloe and like all of their brands, like they're just really making waves.

They're walking the walk and they're talking the talk, and nobody talks about that.

All they talk about is like how Chloe filters her face and she's setting it on realistic beauty standards for women when it's like you were all so mean to her back in the day, and that's why she's doing this now.

So she's just a victim of trauma.

Like, fuck off.

All were literally crazy to her.

Crazy.

Oh my God.

Like, maybe one, one of the most, like, I'm like, me comparing her to Princess Diana, but I'm like, honestly, like, she was so brutally attacked.

I have more than Kim.

Like,

way more than Kim with her, like, pregnancies and stuff.

Like, I know that was her own trauma, but like,

I would be way more fucked up in the head.

Of course, she's killing it, honestly.

Yeah, and the way that everyone is just like, now they're saying she's too skinny and her photos are too filtered.

It's like, why do you think she's doing all of this?

Like, for the years and years where, like, people wrote the nastiest things about her, people were tweeting, commenting the meanest things.

Like, she's literally damaged from that also could you imagine someone saying that you're too big your whole life and then you like work out twice a day eat healthy have a chef and you get like fit as fuck and then someone's like ugh you're too skinny you're setting realistic body standards smoke would literally come out of my ears i'd be like i know like

what i prefer to focus on the good things that the Kardashians are doing and I think a lot of people don't talk about how like skims good american fendiac skims like really are changing the game game changers game changers agree i love good american like i think they're i stand good American.

I've done brand deals with them before.

I've recently started to buy literally pretty much exclusively from.

Yes.

And I love their sizing because it's not small, medium, and large.

Like, no one wants to buy something that's like extra large.

It's like embarrassing.

Totally.

So they have one, two, three, four, five, six.

Like, that is stunning to me.

Stunning.

I also love that.

I also love that whenever I worked with them as a brand deal, they like let a lot of brands are so picky about messaging and they really were like, do what you want, we trust you.

Oh, I love that.

And I appreciated that.

I was like, I'll cover the topics that you need me to cover, but can I say it the way that I want to say it?

And a lot of brands are like very strict.

I mean, they're like, they don't trust these hoes, but I'm like, trust me, a trustworthy hoe.

Yeah.

I love Good American.

I'm so glad you're on the same page.

So Skims, just like being iconic, yet again, I'm so happy that Skims is doing as well as we all thought it would be.

Yes.

And I'm so glad it's not called Kimono.

I almost just said, remember when they changed the name, and now she's doing the same thing with her perfume line?

Well, she's changing KKW fragrances, obviously, because she's not KKW anymore.

KKW Beauty as well, I'm sure then, right?

Right, so KKW Beauty has been like shut down for a couple months.

They're like rebranding the formula, rebranding whatever.

So I do believe like KKW Beauty and Fragrance will come back as one company, which they should.

Yeah.

And I don't know what it's going to be called.

I kind of forgot she did perfume and that's kind of where she started.

I know.

Which is so crazy, but she was like doing this whole like repertoire and like giving this like back like you guys from the moment I came out with Gardenia.

I was like, what the fuck?

I don't remember any of this shit.

She's a Gardenia.

Oh my God.

I thought it was so crazy that people were buying perfumes online that they've never smelled.

That suck out.

Which, by the way, I remember being like, I want this, obviously, because I am such a basic bitch.

And I was online and I was like reading the notes and I was like, I don't know what this means.

What is like a.

I I bought the sample pack.

Oh good good.

I did do that but it's crazy because I did smell two of them like ooh.

Yeah no I know it's like the fact that KKW fragrances was as successful as it was and nobody ever smelt it before

is so crazy.

No wait I didn't realize that no one fucking smelled it.

No, it's psychotic.

It's the craziest thing.

That's the power of Kim Kardashian.

That is crazy.

So we love skims over here.

We're big supporters.

And speaking of more Kardashian drama, Kanye West has dropped out of Coachella with less than two weeks before the festival begins.

And I'm really over over-talking about Kanye, but I do feel like this is a positive development because Kim, did he drop out or did they pull him?

He dropped out and it was reported that allegedly he told Kim he was going to stop and then go away and get some help.

I saw that.

So I feel like this is part of that.

Okay, well then I'm here for that.

Me too.

I'm actually going to Coachella, which I can't tell if it's my worst nightmare or if I'm going to have fun.

I went one time, but I only went for one day because my flight, my flights got messed up and I was delayed like three days in Dallas.

So I feel like I didn't even, even i went there for um a brand deal at the time i took a photo in front of the ferris wheel and then left yeah because it was so late and botched so i haven't experienced it that way and um going to the roll so like they've done like the whole like vip yeah i feel like it'll be they'll take care of everything yeah so that'll be posh and fun and cool but like i don't really love like the outside you know no i know can i tell you i've been twice and before i went for the first time like it was my idea of hell.

And I was like so negative about it.

That's how I think I'm being.

Yeah, but then like you get there and first of all you really don't go to the festival until the night and it gets so much cooler.

Like it's not that hot.

Oh, okay.

And it's kind of like everything.

Really?

I know.

It's like so lame and tired.

I'm trusting you on this.

But and I'm the most negative bitch alive.

Like I hated Coachella and I'd never even been.

And we went, me and Jackie, for a brand deal.

So we didn't really have like a bunch of things planned.

We ended up having like a really good time that the next year, like we fully planned out.

Like we got a house.

Yeah, like we had a good time.

I don't think I would ever go back again.

It's definitely something you should experience.

Right.

Revolve makes it really premium.

The parties are so fun.

They have amazing performers.

So it's, it's honestly not the worst.

Okay.

Stagecoach is better.

Are you going to stagecoach?

I'm going to stagecoach.

Show me your removal, and that'll be really good.

Okay.

I'll be there too.

Okay.

Yay.

So I agree with Kanye.

Yeah.

I think, I like this.

I like this for him.

I think it's really pulling out to do that.

But I feel like he always does this, and it's kind of like so

toxic.

And he really is like, it's like the, and I mean, I hate to use these like triggering words, but like, it's the abusive ex that like does this stuff and then he comes back and he's like, I promise i'm gonna go and i feel bad for him because he obviously has admitted that he has mental issues yeah yeah so i'm just like i i really feel like it's such a constant stream of now i'm gonna go away be better and i'm gonna come back and everyone's gonna which again i love his music i know of course if i could separate the two from church and state like right really obviously love his music but i just feel so bad for him for him me too so bad for her and i feel like she's probably if i was her i'd be thinking okay he's gonna go away and come back and like what's to say he's not gonna do it five years from now.

Yeah, so like I've really been annoyed with Kanye in recent weeks and like really not even wanting to talk about the stuff because at the end of the day, like we can all like eat up the gossip and everything, but it's Kim's life and this is harassment and there's this happens to a million people who don't have security and all this stuff.

Totally.

So I'm like, I really am like annoyed with him and I'm glad that I think we're at the end of it now and he'll go and seek help.

Yeah.

But do you think her and Pete are going to get married?

Okay, so like the way we've talked about Kim and Pete, like the evolution has really changed because at first it was like, yes, this is the perfect bachelor bounce back rebound.

Right.

And now like it's just reported like Kim met his grandparents.

She came to Staten Island this weekend.

Like I, and, and then like seeing the text messages of like him defending Kim to Kanye.

Like the way.

She's branded.

Yeah, I know.

The way that I am so obsessed with this couple, like I am.

It's not healthy.

And I never thought I would like like want this for Kim, but I think that like she's having the time of her life.

I think she had like a good marriage, but that in the last few years was really hard.

And she hasn't like been in love in a few years.

And I think she's like having this whirlwind romance.

And I'm obsessed.

She's scared.

I think she's literally been scared.

And I think if I was Kim Kurdos, if I was Kim Cardos,

I think that I would be like, who the fuck do I date next?

And I know it's like she could date anyone.

So she's like, who do I date next?

And I think when I see pictures of them, I literally am like, she's so happy right now.

I know.

That bitch is getting digged down in Dallas and she is happy.

Yes.

She's happy.

And I just like it.

I'm over it.

But so people are saying here's who's going to replace Kanye.

Okay.

Which, by the way, I feel like a lot of people.

I haven't even looked at the performers for Coachelle.

I think a lot of people bought tickets like to see Kanye, so I think a lot of people might be like disappointed.

Yeah.

But they're saying maybe the weekend, maybe Justin Bieber,

maybe Tyler the creator.

Okay, so he was the headliner.

Yes.

Correct?

Okay, so this is pretty crazy then that he just dropped the fuck.

I mean, the headliner, because like when you watch, I don't know if you've seen the doc, I don't know if it's a documentary or whatever it was with Homecoming, with it shows yes, Beyonce, it shows the work that they put in months, it's months and months and months.

It's performance, it's stage work, it's dancing, choreography, it's crazy.

And then I was at Coachella the year that Ariana Grande was there, and I remember watching being like, There's a spaceship, now there's a this.

How are they doing all this?

How does she know all this?

Where does she know her feet go?

And then I was like, Oh, they do this for, it's like the pinnacle, it's a pinnacle for people, right?

No, it's like a Super Bowl halftime show.

Exactly.

It is, I would say, the step, one of the steps below.

Yeah, agreed.

And so, because it's just like so sought after and it just the the per the preparation yeah like the preparedness yeah preparation for it is wild so yeah who the fuck is gonna be two weeks away do you think they'll do someone that's already done it that like kind of or maybe someone that's on tour currently that has an opening station because they're already like you know choreographed and stuff yeah um or someone that requires very little like someone who's more understated like who doesn't right like an edge here just a man in his guitar have you ever been to one of his shows i have and i literally thought it was the worst concert i'd ever been to.

I cried.

I thought it was the best concern in the world.

I would have to do it.

I would put it in my top three.

Well, because I love his music.

And so do I, by the way.

But I was like, this is crazy.

He has absolutely no overhead for this whole thing.

Like, my brain changes.

Kim and his little pedal.

His pedal.

And his guitar.

And I'm like, okay, I get it.

That's really.

If that doesn't change, nothing changes.

I think the biggest venue you can do with that kind of style is maybe an arena.

I saw him at a stadium.

It was outside.

There's like helicopters.

I'm like, I can't even hear this bitch.

Like, it was so quiet.

I saw him at a stadium, but I was in a box.

So they feed the

box too, too, by the way.

They feed it through.

Maybe I got nothing fed to me.

Okay, they fed ours through, and so we were just like having the best time.

But like, honestly, I remember just all I could think about was like the finances behind it all.

I was like, he's fucking cashing out, not having to pay anyone.

No, you're 100% right.

Like, that's why comedians make so much money when they tour.

Because it's literally a man and a stool.

There's no overhead.

Right.

And so that's, I was thinking the exact same thing when I saw Ed Sheeran.

I'm like, no, this tour, and it's a stadium tour.

Like, he's making millions.

There's also just no, I was kidding about him like headlining Cotilla.

Like, no, everyone would be like what the no it's so low energy like yeah like what everyone's on molly they're like a lot of people are hoping it's taylor i think taylor first of all would never replace kanye like oh she's too like she was proud she would never i think just a lot of people are like hopeful about that

to replace someone of kanye stature you need like a kanye an ariana uh i'm not a kanye a taylor an ariana a beyonce like that's the name like that you need damn i wonder if beyonce would do it again you know that's an interesting take that people don't want to touch the replacement of Kanye.

Right, because it's like a, it's icky.

It's like sloppy seconds.

Yeah, well, no, I think anyone would be happy to like just be like, yeah, I'll fill in, but I just feel like people wouldn't want to, like you said, like they're now associated with the, you know what?

I actually think Justin Bieber is the perfect person to do it.

I agree.

He's on tour right now, so like his show's already choreographed.

I don't know if he has like the day available.

He might have a show that day, but I do think he would be perfect for it.

And he's friends with Kanye, so it's not a big deal.

Not weird.

And he's like just as big.

He's just as big.

Has he done Coachella before?

I don't think so.

So that's the only thing I I could see him being like, I'm not going to half asset my first time.

Right.

No, you want to have like the announcement.

Like you want the whole thing.

Okay, I'm very interested in this.

Me too.

But like people like pay a lot of money to be there.

Totally.

So like you need to really step your pussy up.

Step the pussy up.

Pop the pussy for us.

Do you think the weekend would be an appropriate fill-in?

You know, I love the weekend's music, but I just have never like gotten down with him.

Like, I don't think I could watch a whole weekend show.

I know.

I remember he did, was it Super Bowl where he was in the mirrors and he was like, like whatever.

And I just remember remember being like I just I'm not like popping my pussy yeah I'm not obsessed I'm not obsessed it was more art and I understand that it was definitely more like artistic than it was like a bang like a banger's right like you're not headbanging yeah but I mean people love the weekend and he can totally like like I think people on drugs would really like to see the weekend I know you really have to take in that factor of the drugs I saw gaga and it was life-changing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

Gaga was like, would be like a top performer, I feel like, well, she She was at Coachella.

Yeah.

Okay.

That was the first time we went.

And that's like, me and Jackie had a brand deal.

So we were like, oh, you just Gaga.

You're just every song.

You don't realize you know every Gaga song, but you do, you know every Gaga song.

Every single one.

And they're all, I mean, they're all like headboppers.

No, and like even people, like, people at Coachella are very like alternative.

Like,

yeah, like, I love like Caroline like

that.

And so I thought like a lot of people wouldn't have been into Gaga, but like she just has a way about her.

Like, everyone fucking slaps everyone.

She loves hearing also.

Yes, and quite the performer.

Anytime you see, anytime I see any of your interviews and stuff, I'm endeared to her.

Like, I like because there could be a hundred people in a room, yes, totally, and 99 of them don't believe in you, but I believe in you, Shannon.

Thank you so much.

Um, Pink is like starting drama in our next story, and your merch, yeah, uh, yeah, oh, yeah, sorry, I totally forgot to promote new merch, sneak peek.

Oh, can't see.

Okay, pink is mocking Rolling Stone magazine.

You've been irrelevant since 1990.

So, they posted on Instagram

like this picture of promoting an article, like 25 of the best Grammys performances to talk about the Grammys.

And then I guess they left her off of it.

And she has

in recent history, she has, she was doing aerobics, you know, she was singing up in the air.

You know, they meant in general.

In general, not this year, just like in history, before the Grammys premiered on Sunday, they were like, watch back some of the best.

And they left her out of it.

And they posted a picture on Instagram, like top 25, whatever.

And the picture that they had posted was a picture of Taylor Swift and was like, here are 25.

Click the link in our bio to see the top 25 Grammys performances.

And I guess they left Pink out of it and they used a picture of Taylor Swift to promote.

And Pink has been like,

not overly, but like she's been critical of Taylor Swift in recent years.

Yeah, I've seen.

Especially on Watch What Happens Live, like before Taylor,

back in the day when Taylor used to like not talk about politics.

Right.

Pink was like giving her shit for it.

So I just feel like there's tension there, which like breaks my heart because like these are two queens.

I just like all these flavors and she chose salt.

That's That's just crazy to me like I wouldn't be I think it speaks more that she's affected by an article by Rolling Stones.

If you're saying you've been irrelevant since 1990, they they hold space in your head.

Right.

Like they're living rent-free.

This is what she wrote.

Ha ha ha ha.

You guys have been irrelevant since 1990.

This is the magazine that used to feature people.

Like John Lennon and Muddy Waters.

Hunter S.

Thompson wrote political pieces.

They put Tina Turner on their cover.

Then they sold out and all credibility went to shit when style over substance and revenue over authenticity went into play.

That's when Snookie became acceptable coverage.

Give me a fucking break.

Do your homework.

You don't have to like me or my music or anything about me.

And believe me, I could give a shit.

Sounds like you do give a shit.

But this is the biggest sellout in fucking history when it comes to a publication we all once trusted.

Fuck Rolling Stone.

And I felt that way for many decades.

And so many...

Man, it's really long.

And so many of my favorite, hold on, it's loading.

It's really long.

And so many of my favorite artists and peers have.

This isn't just about their horrendous opinion of rating Grammy performances.

It's decades of wasting trees and people's time.

Oh my gosh.

I just attributed to it.

I didn't think she had to really bring Snookie into that.

Like, honestly,

I thought that was actually kind of fucked up.

Wait, when you said that, I was like, oh, rude.

I know.

Like, leave Snookie out of this.

She's just doing her best.

She's doing her best, and she never claimed to be like a Rolling Stones acclaimed artist.

Like, she's just out here eating pickles and like living her best life.

Putting her ass in a mini fridge.

I know.

And she's like, come a long way, honestly.

I know.

Sis for Snookie is what this whole podcast should be about because I just, and what a like random little blurb she threw in there.

Like,

pick someone that's done like really mean things to people and like use them as your like blurb.

Right.

Like someone we can all get behind, a true villain.

Yeah.

I would, that, that was jarring when you read that part.

I was like, oh, rude.

No, I know.

It's like, leave Snookie out of it.

And I get what Pink is saying.

Like, first of all, she should be included in that artist list, whatever.

It's not the biggest deal.

It's not.

It's not facts.

It's just like this dumb article, like listicle from Rolling Stones.

Who actually cares?

BuzzFeed at this point.

Right, exactly.

that rolling we know that people aren't going to like the stores and rarely are people picking them up so honestly like all these publications are having to put out so many internet art content because everyone's consuming so much online so like i mean it was probably just a random filler article like i know and now she's like bringing so much attention to it and honestly the whole message she wrote is like about how she doesn't give a shit but like you don't spend that much time writing a McGilla when you don't care like you obviously care rent free they're in your head rent free like and it's just so not pink.

Like, I watched her a documentary, and she really is that bitch.

Like, she doesn't give a fuck.

So, what are you doing?

What are you doing?

This is like kind of like the losery thing on pink.

I want to say, I think that I think it's very loser behavior.

Yeah, which makes me sad because pink is not a loser.

Like, no, anything.

Neither is Snookie, by the way.

No, Snookie is amazing.

Leave Snookie out of it.

I just think leave her out.

I'm feeling like Chris Cracker, like, leave Snookie alone.

It's really not cool.

And this is kind of loser behavior from.

She's also like, she's always always kind of brought women up.

And I just

like, that's just weird.

It's really unlike her.

I'm like, shook.

Yeah.

It feels like a, it feels like very like sore loser behavior.

I know.

And it's like not even something worth fighting over.

It's a stupid argument.

I know.

Ew, she's like, it's giving me red vibes.

Yeah, I'm not.

She's like, I don't even care.

Yeah.

And you're like,

she stated like three times, like, I don't give a shit.

I don't care.

As if I could give a shit.

You're like, you're quaking.

You're quaking.

No, you wrote like a long ass comment.

Like, I hate to wait.

You have to wait for character limit.

Yeah, right.

You care, Pink.

And that's fine.

It's okay to care.

Like, I think it's time we start normalizing, like, caring what other people think about you.

Cause like, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah.

Nobody on the planet cares more about me, what other people think than me.

So I totally get it.

But it's kind of luxury to like act like you don't care when your actions are clearly saying otherwise.

Yeah, that's always like I always try to not say I don't care because I care so fucking much about so many things.

So deeply.

Even when I don't care and I say I don't care, I'm like, people aren't buying it.

Yeah, no, I'm like always that bitch.

Like, I don't give a shit.

If you knew how many times I cried myself, just like, like, I I care a lot.

I'd be caring.

I'd be caring.

I mean I mean I try to keep that narrative pretty clear.

You call me Karen.

I'm Karen.

I'm fucking Karen.

No

Fuck too long for me to get that one.

I just like I think I'm pretty honest and open about like how articles like fucking suck.

Of course.

I have to physically just like not look at them other because if I if I look at it I'm gonna be Karen.

You have such a strong accent.

Where are you from from?

Really?

You think it's southern?

Are you southern?

I'm from South Carolina, yeah.

Yeah, you're you sound like hella southern.

Wow, okay.

People say that people in the south say I don't sound southern at all.

Oh, yeah.

And then people outside of the south are like, where are you from?

Yeah, you are.

So you live in Asheville, but you're from South Carolina.

Yeah, so it's just like South, South, South.

Like Jerlin, the South.

Yeah.

I like it.

I want to talk like that, too.

That was not good.

I'm sorry.

I'm so sorry.

I don't know who you just offended, but I think like, so I grew up watching Honey Boo-Boo, and that's the influence.

Oh, okay.

Honey Boo-Boo was good.

The best show on TV.

No, really good.

Honestly, hate to see the downfall the family's tape.

Really, really tough.

But if you want to go back and watch old episodes, I highly recommend.

But I also recommend that you don't eat because it's like one of the most disgusting shows.

They're always like, they're like throwing mayo at each other.

Like it's really good.

They're like just like fisting cheese balls and then they're like chewing them up.

It has like an extra toe and they're like always playing with the toe.

It's really sick.

It really is sick.

It's sick.

It's like borderline like one of those TLC.

Oh, it was on TLC.

TLC.

Yeah.

Oh my God.

I was like, it's going to be like, I don't even, I skip past TLC so fast because even the titles of the show, I'm like.

Thousand Pound Sisters.

Yes.

Such a good show.

What's the one?

The hoardering, the the hoarding one.

You're not with the hoarders.

Buried alive.

They're actually buried alive in the south.

Don't forget about my 19-pound scrotum.

I want to.

Yeah, no, you shouldn't.

Don't forget about it.

Sister Wives, a classic.

Oh, you know what I got really into back in the day?

Gypsy.

Oh,

gypsy weddings.

Yes.

Oh, my God.

I mean, my mom would have to peel me away from the TV.

And then one time I went to this little town in South Carolina that was like, I don't know, I think I was trying to buy like a prom dress for cheaper.

And I was like, wow, some of these dresses.

And she was like, you know, we were on, what is this?

Was it my Big Fat Gypsy Wedding?

My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding.

Okay.

She was like, you know, you were on that.

And I was like, soul.

Shut the fuck up.

I'm getting one here.

This, the chokehold that that show had me in, first of all, the way they would get into those dresses.

No, fights.

Oh, like at the wedding, at the ceremony, just beating the shit out of each other.

Oh, and the dresses.

I mean, and they always looked like actual like character.

Like, yeah.

And that's just what they looked like.

Yeah.

It was so wild.

and then it was also like so weird that they were getting married at like 14 yeah oh yeah it was also cringy but I could it was the TLC show that I could not it had me in a chokehold I'm so glad you just brought that up because like I totally had forgotten about that show and like I was a you need to go back and watch it because like the amount of work these women were putting in on these dresses to get into those dresses they were literal like the size of a trailer yes and then some of the women that were making them were like yeah I'll only do two dresses a year because I'll pay for my whole salary for the whole year because it also takes me six months to make it right and the crazy thing was that these people like literally lived in squalor and they just like saved up every single dollar for the wedding for the wedding like they didn't spend money on anything they lived in campers right like just to save for the wedding crazy also i really liked wife swap that i still of course i quote king curtis like daily did you ever watch sister wives sister wives no i didn't get into that it's still on the air oh really and there's a lot of drama one of the wives just left oh how long have they been sisters and friends well they have been wives and sisters since i was in high school that's when i started watching the show so 11th grade like 2000 that's a long standing show.

It's a long marriage, too.

They're not jumping from different men with

four wives,

same family.

This whole time.

Yeah.

Wow.

It's deep.

And they've kind of been run out of, like, they used to live in Utah, and then they were, because polygamy is not legal.

Yeah.

So they were like run out of Utah, then they went to Nevada, then Arizona, and I think they're back in Utah.

Is it illegal in at least one state?

Probably Florida everywhere.

I don't think it's illegal anywhere, but I'm not 100% sure.

You don't think it's legal anywhere?

No, I think it might be legal in Nevada.

That's it.

Damn.

Yeah, so it's really interesting.

I'm learning a lot from TLC.

Yeah, TLC.

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This is the breaking news of the day, and I don't know why I buried it so hard, but Cornet Kardashian and Travis Barker are married.

Shook to my court when you told me this.

I said it just happened.

I go against, I go, I have chills.

Yeah, chills.

So basically, the Grammys were in Vegas.

They were there because Travis performed with someone I can't remember.

This is confirmed, like 100%

confirmed.

It's from TMZ, which pretty much means it's confirmed.

Okay.

So they were in Vegas, and allegedly they eloped at a Las Vegas chapel at 1.30 in the morning local time.

And TMZ is reported.

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Lots of fanfare, and I quote.

So they just got married legally.

This reminds me of when Joe Jonas and Sophie Turner got married after the Grammys and Diplo was there because they were getting married abroad and they needed a legal license.

So they did in Vegas, which I thought was like so cute and funny.

I thought it was cute.

Like his brothers were there because it was like somewhat planned, but it was still an alignment.

So this is just like so uncourting because she like they're so family family-oriented.

Yeah, wait, so her family wasn't there.

I don't think so.

They weren't in Vegas.

They were so mad that Diplo blew up their spot.

Right.

And I like wish someone blew up their spot.

I want to see pics from her.

I know.

I'm sure we actually will see.

I could see them not doing like a super formal wedding, and I could see.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

No, never mind.

I take that back.

She's never been married before.

I know.

And like, as much as they're like so kind of like crazy, emo weird, they're also like very traditional.

They are.

So I kind of think we'll be getting like a big Catholic wedding.

They're very religious, the Kardashians.

They are.

I thought that the engagement was so like traditional.

It was almost kind of choogy.

Yes, I was like, completely.

When I saw it, I was like, no, I know.

It's like so not Travis Barton.

Yeah, I was like, not the heart-shaped rose.

Right, no, it's 100% chuggie.

I couldn't have said it better myself.

Yeah.

So, okay, so I'm, I'm shocked that they're, they did that, but also, I'm just gonna say, and like, I'm standing, standing Courtney being happy right now.

Like, all the Kardashians are just seemingly falling into the right, like, dude.

The right dudes are falling into the Kardashians.

Yes, okay.

So I'm happy for that, but I also like low-key think that getting married in Vegas and eloping is also kind of choogy.

Yeah.

It was cute whenever Sophia, Sophie and JoJo did it.

Because they still had like a full wedding, and this was like, before you get married in Italy, you need an American marriage license.

So it was kind of like two birds, one stone.

It was like a funny, cool moment after the Grammys.

Right.

But then it was also, you know, you know, they're getting married at the same time.

Maybe they're doing it abroad too.

Maybe.

I just feel like

it's very them them in the sense that they're like rocker or whatever.

Right.

It's very Pam and Tommy.

Yeah.

Okay.

I mean, I guess, whatever.

I hope that they're like filming this for the Hulu show, which Hamir is literally in 10 days.

They have to.

There's no way.

No way.

I know.

She's been

so like, you know, boundaries, boundaries.

Yeah, but she's been a better sport.

I feel like she's been showing a lot.

Like, I would have never guessed she would show like her.

Engagement.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, the journey.

When they said that they, I don't know, a lot of times on reality TV, like when people don't have anything to talk about, they like say they're going to try for more kids.

Like we've seen that

on Housewives so many times.

So many times.

And it's kind of like filler.

So I'm really hoping that's not the case because I would love to see a Barkardashian child.

I'd be dead ass think they want to have kids.

I believe.

I think so too because they're so obsessed with one another.

I'm also just like such a like, I won't follow the Kardashians into the abyss.

So I'm like, I believe them.

They want to have babies.

No, and they've really said like in no uncertain terms that this show is very different from the e-show.

The e-show, especially towards the end, was filled with so much.

dumb like fake like pranks like pranks i was looking at the pranks like i couldn't and they made it seem like that's what he really wanted, and that this is very, like, documentary style, much more real.

So I have to imagine what we're seeing is truthful.

That's going to be hard for them because I bet when they showed up to work every day, they're like, we know we got to do the thing.

We got to do that.

We got to shake the salad.

We got to dress up as each other.

We got to call fuck on, what's his name?

Todd Crane.

Todd Crane's.

Auntie Cranez.

Like, I wonder if they're like, damn, it's kind of hard to be this real on top of it.

Harder work for sure.

Yeah, but you know?

But they're also doing it on their own terms.

Just needs to get up and work.

No, you need to get your fucking ass up and work.

Because honestly, it seems like no one wants to work these days.

Nobody.

That's so good.

You need to surround yourself with

people that want to work.

So so happy for Courtney and Travis.

Like I do really stand.

Yeah.

I need Kim and Pete to like follow in these footsteps because I'm so obsessed.

And I see a bromance brewing between Scott and Pete.

They keep like posting each other on Instagram.

Scott took a video of, they all have these like really cool golf carts that Chris got them all for Christmas.

And Pete was driving Kim's pink one.

Yeah.

Like dropped something off at at Scott's house and Scott took a video.

Scott and Pete would get along.

100%.

Like, degenerative.

Totally.

Totally fucking.

Being degenerative.

They're like the spin-off of jackass.

Bad boys, yeah.

I love it.

I love it.

And they're a bunch of YouTubers in a mansion that just got all the money.

Yeah.

I love that Scott is still in the fold because even though he's messed up many a time, I do have a safe space in my heart for him.

I do as well.

But he needs to stop with the underage girls.

It's odd.

It's disgusting.

And they all look the same.

Exactly.

And they all go through not skinny, not fat.

Amanda, we love her.

She just talked about how the transgression of like once it's like the Scott Disk effect after he like are they in things with him?

They have like the best season of their life.

Yes.

They become like these classy.

Sophia Ritchie is like

in the best place ever.

I also like love her.

Is it her husband or her husband?

Oh, I don't know.

Is she married?

I don't know, but he's so sexy to me.

Yeah, I don't know what he looks like because he's like a nobody, but happy for him.

Tall and hot.

Love that for her.

Yeah.

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Elon Musk has snagged a Twitter board seat after buying the largest stake in the U.S.

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So Twitter announced this morning via tweet and a filing with U.S.

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and then the twitter ceo announced this morning in a series of tweets saying i'm excited to share that we are appointing elon musk to our board through conversations with elon in recent weeks it has become clear to us that he would bring great value to our board he's both passionate and intense critic of the service which is exactly what we need on twitter and in the boardroom to make us stronger in the long term welcome elon so i'm just like really jealous of the fact that like you know you can like not like something in a company so you just buy it and change it like i want to have enough money to buy tick tock and then give myself more followers yeah no you know shadow banned i I listen to you and Hamilton's episodes.

I'm shadow banned.

We're like, air quotes.

No, I see you pop up on my feet too, but I think it does.

It's very curated to what you want, and I want you.

Oh, that's so sweet.

I think that's iconic to be like, not interested in what you're doing.

I'll buy you.

Right.

Let me just do it better.

Yeah.

I wonder if he's going to like really, really change it up.

And do they let board members change it up that much just because they're a board member?

I don't know.

Right.

I mean, I do think that Twitter is obviously like open to his suggestions because he could have bought the 9% stake and not gotten a board seat, but they gave him one.

Yeah, right, right, right.

But But also, Twitter is fucking irrelevant.

So, like, Elon Musk is out here making news about Twitter.

Like, they should be grateful.

They should be giving him more stock.

Agreed.

There's people out there that are Twitter stand still.

They're like, only the funny shit happens on Twitter.

And I just don't agree.

Only toxic shit goes down on Twitter.

Like, if you have a lot of followers on Twitter, you're toxic.

Yeah.

And I just like the fact that they make you make such short little blurbs.

Like, I have more to say.

Yeah.

And I just like winded queens.

Nothing comes across correctly on Twitter.

I don't think, and I just think Twitter, I should, I want to delete mine.

Sorry, Elon.

Oh, I deleted years ago.

Yeah, I just want to, just, I'm not interested in it.

It's just not, it's not even good.

It's fun.

Anyway, sorry, Elon, that was a poor business mistake, I think.

I know, but I kind of love just like the boss ass energy

of just buying something that you need to fix.

You know, I would tell you about the bodega.

I'm like, I buy the bodega.

Yeah, right.

And then they'll start remembering your name.

They'll start calling you boss.

You know, they'll start calling you boss.

I love that.

If you had unlimited money, like what company would you buy?

I would really buy TikTok.

I'm dead serious because one, I think it's a good investment.

Yeah, I think that's a great investment.

And two, like then I would finally get more followers.

Yes, I would just like make myself like Tom from MySpace.

Right.

Where everyone, everyone has to when they make one, it's like he's on there and you can't remove him as a friend.

And then, like, everyone I don't like, I would take their checks away.

Yeah, no, not in their checks, their whole accounts.

I would disable them.

I would just go into the office every day and be like, who's starting stuff on with me today?

Yeah,

delete, delete.

That's good.

Twitter was doing a lot of that.

It's like

ben, bad.

Ben, ben, ben.

Yeah, I'm trying to think of a company that I would just, oh, mayonnaise.

I would buy Dukes Hills.

Dukes?

I'm a Dukes girl.

I don't know what that is.

I'm sorry.

There's the Dukes Mayonnaise.

Oh, my God.

There's this like whole skit on YouTube that's so funny.

It's all these like, it's like shit southern women say.

And this like iconic line is like, oh, she like eats egg salad.

And she's like, oh, she didn't use Dukes.

I've never even heard of Dukes.

Dukes is iconic.

Okay, so you would buy Dukes?

Yeah, I actually have a Dukes trucker hat and I wear it on airplanes a lot just because a trucker hat on an airplane and whatever.

What kind of changes would you make internally at Dukes or nothing you would have to do?

I would blow their spot.

I would give them funnier commercials.

I just really want more, I want more people to know about Dukes is is what I want.

Because I've never heard of it.

I don't feel like they're getting the recognition that they deserve.

I completely agree.

But when I was on an airplane, they were like, she was like, is that a Dukes hat?

And I was like, yeah.

And she was like, oh.

And I was like, good choice.

You need.

Like, don't come at me.

You need.

Starting Mayo fights.

Don't come at me.

I get removed.

I get my TSA pre-check taken away for a fight over Mayo.

Well, Elon Musk, happy for you.

We'd love to see investors investing.

That's great.

No, it's good for them.

Yeah.

If Elon wants to invest in the morning toast, like we believe in free speech and

we are beautiful, stunning, and smart.

So we'll take an investment.

We'll take $6 billion for 2%.

Else,

I love all those TikToks.

There are people walking into the boardrooms.

They're like me going to my dad asking.

I'm asking for

$6 million for 0% return.

I love those TikToks too.

Well, Shannon, congratulations.

You made it through your fast five and actually made it six, so it was a little hard for you.

And I think you did amazing, sweetie.

Thank you so much.

It's honestly, it's tense coming in here because you really are just like iconic.

And I couldn't like reverb off of what Hannah Berner said more than just like it does feel like a check mark in just life to be here and I'm very grateful.

Oh I love you.

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All right, are you ready?

I'm ready.

We have three girlies unburdening unburdening themselves.

I love this for them.

And we're just gonna try and make them feel better.

You know, sometimes it's really hard, but we try not to shame, but like, you know, anything happens.

Hello, ladies.

This isn't so crazy as I've done much, much worse, but on Saturday, I was out and drunk at the bar.

I was texting this guy that I've been dating to come out, but he wasn't up to it, and it was getting late, so he was likely going to sleep, which is why he didn't answer my last text.

At around 12:45, I left the bar, and I would not give up on trying to get him to come over or meet me out.

Oh, no.

So I texted him a few times in a row saying, SOS and help, are you awake?

Of course, he FaceTimed me immediately asking if I was okay.

I had to pretend that I got spooked by something while I was waiting for my Uber to not seem like a crazy girl who cried wolf.

Anyway, I feel a little insane for it, but I'm glad that I'm getting it off my chest.

He still didn't come over.

Of course, he didn't come over.

You're unwell, honestly.

Oh, sorry.

I'm trying not to shame.

That's not good.

In the future, like, do not waste an emergency.

Like, that's not good.

No man is worth, like, you know.

Also, that is just like, it's not good.

Crazy behavior.

Like, again, not shaming you, but just like, we are both kind of blown away by this.

So, what does that say?

I just think moving forward, just don't do that ever again.

I completely agree.

You could just not do that.

I don't even.

There are other ways.

Like, send a titty pick.

Like, there are other ways to get his attention.

Yeah.

Or just like, I think, like, if a dude isn't giving you attention, like, he'll remember that you didn't care.

And then they are all the same fucking idiots.

And I love it.

It's so sad, but like, that's, it's so basic.

Like, I think people literally have like a whole podcast dedicated dedicated to dating and with a with a hetero relationship and just like a straight man like all you have to do is ignore them and like literally you'll be married in a week.

So crazy.

They're literally such little titty suckers on their moms at first and then you.

They just like they just need attention so bad.

And if guy's not talking to you, it's because he's talking to someone else because men need constant entertainment and attention.

And we I just talked about this on my podcast actually, right?

So like

I just think if he's not responding, he either is dead ass tired or he's fucking someone else.

So just we're gonna just have to let that sleeping dog lie.

It's not that complicated.

That's what's so sad, you know?

We had just so so many dicks you could hop on like I know many and you sat and you listen to the toaster obviously beautiful stunning and smart So I would just There's no need to jump through so many hoops to get someone's attention and honestly maybe if like you have to be getting

Doing all these crazy things to be getting someone's attention like it's not right for you.

No, no, no find sleepier less sleepy guys.

Yeah or sneaky link that's up late.

Yeah, and don't Make false alarms.

That's not cool.

No, no, okay, good morning beautiful and stunning smart Jackie and Claudia.

Well, she meant Shannon for sure.

But Jackie is.

Yes, of of course.

Love you, Jackie.

I would like to unburden myself from a baby shower incident.

I uploaded an Instagram story of the table setting at the bridal at the baby shower without realizing that there was background audio of my grandmother whispering and asking me how much weight I have lost and me replying to her with the amount.

It was live on my story for about two hours.

Hopefully, people just thought, hmm, weird flex, but okay.

Like, I wanted to die, and my mamma was quite remorseful about her comment that was made in public.

Love you too.

Oh, no, I feel you do not need to unburden yourself from just did nothing wrong.

Like a queen.

You should be proud of yourself.

You know, you should be telling more people.

It's a huge, it's so hard to lose weight.

And if you wanted to do it and you did it, you accomplished your goal.

Yeah.

You should be proud of it.

And this really isn't that bad.

Like, think of all the things your grandma could have said.

Oh my gosh.

No, mamma should have been shouting this from the rooftop.

She's just proud of you.

She should have been whispering like not.

No, I think that this is totally fine.

Like you shouldn't be embarrassed at all.

Like it's it's great.

It's great.

And you're celebrating your friend's baby.

Like what's better than that?

And maybe there was someone who's like been like into you that like didn't know how to like approach you or something.

And he's he's like, you know, I've been noticing that you're looking good.

My mom's right.

And this was a great little opener for him.

Right.

It was a great opener.

Like, oh, congrats.

You know, like maybe he didn't know what to say, but now you open the door and then you're going to be married and you're going to be thinking you're grandma.

I think you're killing it.

And I have put so fucking more like horrible things on my Instagram.

So like by accident, like just, oh, I should have unburdened myself this past weekend.

Please, what'd you do?

Someone was taking an Instagram story of like all these girly pops like on the we were all like cheersing espresso martinis and in the you nipple no no I wish in the background but you didn't see my face but like i just have a decently recognizable voice slash everyone that we were with was all like married and i think if you knew the group you're with you just knew shannon was saying this and i was like oh my god i was like that's the fifth uncircumcised dick i've seen in the last couple months

oh my god that is so new it wasn't until like three like two hours later that like because it was one of those things where everyone's just like cheers and then she background got back to girly pop talk and then someone started getting so many dms that has like a lot of followers that was like all i can hear is this is my fourth uncircumcised dick in the last year that is so bad have you ever accidentally like shown your nipple in a dress or anything yeah but um I do it on purpose sometimes I love that I've got the palest nipples like I so do I they are the exact same color as my skin you can see them like right before I hook up with someone I'm like giving myself titty twitters trying like wake up wake up wake up because I just like wish they were darker I talked about getting them tattooed on at one point oh wow because that's a permanent choice that would have been a permanent choice and they did talk me out of it because they were like do you want to have kids one day and I was like yeah that'd be great do you not breastfeed if you have have tattooed?

No, that's not it.

They just say that your nipples will get larger, and then you'll have like a ring tattoo on your ears.

You know what I mean?

Oh my god, think about that.

They expand, but the tattoo doesn't expand.

Correct.

So that's hard fun.

So they were like, Maybe we should just like table this just for now and you can just keep giving yourself titty twisters before you hook up with someone.

Oh my god, that is the funniest shit I've ever heard in my life.

I'm so hard as well, dude.

Oh man, that is the funniest thing I've ever heard.

Well, our third unburden is another social media faux pas, and it's pretty bad.

I'm not gonna lie.

Oh, no.

Hello, Shannon and Claudia.

I have had this eating away at me, and I have yet to tell my husband because I'm mortified.

I woke up one morning and took a video of my dog.

She sleeps at the foot of our bed in a crate, and I thought it would be a cute thing to show what our mornings look like to my dad.

I sent the video to him, not realizing my husband was completely naked in the background.

No.

I went back to watch the video a few days later, and I realized what I did.

I can't say anything to my dad because I was so mortified at what I did, and I haven't bothered telling my husband because I knew he would just be so embarrassed.

I can't believe I made such a dumb fucking mistake, and I will never take a video while in our bedroom ever again, clothed or not.

Love you.

Yeah.

Never tell your husband and pretend like it never happened.

Like let your dad think that you don't know what you did.

So just let him think this is like his secret to hold on to.

Also, it's quite possible.

Like dads are not the most savvy.

It's very possible like he has no idea.

Or that he didn't.

You know how like a video is small and then when you click on it, it gets bigger.

Yeah, it made it open in the small icon, which I feel like the dads are clicking.

They're not like expanding a video.

So true.

Maybe that's the thing.

Also, your dad either doesn't know or feels wild and uncomfortable because my dad is just like a savage and he would just text me back immediately and say something like absurd.

Right, we don't know her dad's personality.

So we have

he doesn't want you to bring it up either because he would have either tried to make light of it, make a joke, or he would have like just been like, this is highly inappropriate.

Just let him.

Oh man, this is like so horrible.

Like I don't know if you can do it.

If he doesn't send the video to someone else, though, be like, check out, not notice.

Look at the dog.

Yeah.

Oh, no.

The next time you rhythm, like, dads are always like, hey, can you help me with my phone?

Just go in and delete it so he doesn't like have have the ability to send it to anyone else.

Yeah.

And don't ever tell your husband.

There's no reason to embarrass him.

Like, he doesn't need to know.

And also, don't talk about it with your dad, one, because that's awkward.

And two, it's very possible.

You're right.

Like, he doesn't know.

Yeah.

Oh, my God.

Never tell your husband, though.

That's horrible.

You have to be so careful these days.

That's so good.

I saw the funniest thing once a while ago.

Someone sent me, like, had some girl like sent

a picture of her engage.

Like, she got engaged and she sent it to like.

Live photo.

Yes.

Have you seen that too?

Yeah, big photos.

It went like viral.

Yeah.

honestly it's good for her for those who don't know this girl like was sending a picture of her engagement ring she was like obviously got engaged maybe on vacation they're like back in the hotel room she's sending a picture of her engage ring and it's a live photo so if you press it it's like her finger moving and then her man jumping on the bed with his dick fully out so what he actually was doing which is like such a fucking dude move and they love to do this he he was she was showing her ring and then he was swinging helicoptering his dick to the ring he was like being funny i guess like uh yeah yeah and she was like oh thank god i didn't get that in the photo but it was a live photo and live photos are so fucking dangerous because they have sound too.

Oh, they have sound.

And I sometimes will send a live photo on purpose because it'll be like the ocean or whatever.

And like one time I was so embarrassed because I had hiked, not hiked.

I don't really hike.

I just like walked upstairs to this like spot to get a picture of the ocean.

And you could hear me over the crashing waves going,

and I was mortified.

I sent it to a boy as well.

And I was just like.

That's horrible.

That is horrible.

Yeah.

Oh man, that's I'm also such a creepy, sneaky little sleuth that like I knew that this one guy that I was talking to that I don't talk to him about how to kill him in my head, he's the worst, actually.

And, um, but he would, I think he did not realize he was sending live photos.

And I was always like, because they have sound, good, don't let him.

I was like, never gonna tell him that he was sending live photos because I was like, what are we doing?

Yes, of course,

stalking is immaculate.

Yes, I agree.

But in the future, like, if you're sending photos, just like always remember about the live photo of it all, because it's really

live photos are great.

Like, when my sister sends me pictures of her daughter, like, same, it's the best because I hear her, like, a little voice, and then she's like, running, love.

But, like, in any other circumstance, they're horrifying.

So scary.

And like the sound is just something that you always forget about.

The sound is so attached.

Oh, the sound.

Yes.

It's just, it's so layered.

Don't send live photos.

Thank you to everyone who unburdened themselves.

If they ever want to write in to us to unburden yourself with something, it's unburden yourself.

No, what is it?

Unburden yourselves at gmail.com.

Shannon, thank you so much for finally being here.

I adore you.

The toasters adore you.

You're a queen.

Tell everyone where they can follow you, where to listen to your podcast.

Yes.

Etc.

My podcast is probably podcast.

My Instagram is probably ShannonFord.

I I made this.

Let's talk about the probably.

Sorry, let's not end the episode yet.

What's with the probably?

Wait, I okay, I'm so sorry to keep doing this, but I have to unburden myself about one thing, and I went back and forth.

I like how you literally like, oh, I don't think I have anything.

I don't have anything.

I went back and forth on whether or not I should talk about this on the toast.

You'll probably have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about.

Facebook group drama?

Yes.

Okay, I do, because that was my first intro.

Cause like, I didn't watch Vericavaleria, and then someone was sending me your Instagram stories like years ago, but I'm not entirely sure what happened.

You had some beef with the toasters.

No, okay, so it wasn't, well, it was toasters, but I didn't know.

Okay, so this is even funnier because like my friends from back home and like everyone in my friend group was like, abort, abort.

Like you do not want to fuck with these people.

And I was like, whatever.

And I just like, when someone like, when people come with pitchforks, I like come with like a bulldozer.

Yeah, I just like, that's just a toast.

What was the drama?

So basically it was a subgroup.

It wasn't y'all special groups.

So that's the, that's the whole issue that I, I was like, that's the issue we have in Facebook groups.

It's like.

horrible like disgusting shit goes down in Facebook groups that are that use our name right and it's like friends of mine are like what the fuck is this group can you delete it I'm like no, I think you can't.

I'm not in this group.

I don't run this group.

Right.

But it's like toasters who love Shannon Ford and they'll start a group and then they'll start saying horrible things and threatening you.

No, so it was like a group of 40,000 was a subgroup.

I need to profess a subgroup.

And it was 40,000 people though.

And it was back when I was selling presets.

And listen, I know you can give them to your friends and like share them.

I'll do whatever.

I get it.

But they had this thread where they were.

Someone's like, I love Shannon's presets.

Can you share them here?

And again, like I said, I'm not so crazy to be like, it's stolen digital property.

But but give it to your friends give it to some of your friends do it for sure send it to whoever but like it was a group with 40 000 people and i was just like pretty pissed about it because i was like

and i was like hey and i just remember being like i obviously know this is not the own like the owners of the of the toast but i was like it like could y'all like tell this group to like stop it cut it cut it out yeah and um they came for my fucking jugular oh yeah and i was like not prepared.

They were like, it was like, oh, you want to take your presets down?

You're ugly as fuck.

And I was like, what?

I was like oh my god

those facebook groups were so toxic we don't do that anymore they were so toxic but i got a dm from either you or jackie someone that like literally just responded and was like this is not us and i was like and i was like it's so embarrassing

they were making us look so bad like acting like fools it's by the way it's a full crime like to destroy stolen digital property like that's like someone you know like ripping our audio from our patreon and giving it away for free when you get it when you like get the preset you do like sign yeah of course no it's fully illegal so anyways all i i know is that i just like popped off for a second and i was like listen you little fucking toaster shrudels.

I was like,

who messaged you?

Oh, yeah.

Well, no, it was from the morning toast.

Oh, okay.

Wait, let me, I'm going to find it.

Hold on.

Oh, yeah, so maybe you'll be able to see.

But it was, yeah, it will definitely be right up top.

And I was like, listen, you little fucking toaster shrudels.

We're not doing this.

And I'm not scared of y'all.

And everyone, I mean, I want to say five minutes later, I was issuing public apologies.

Oh, literally, I found it.

You mentioned us in your story five times and we wrote, that's not our group.

You're like, oh, I thought for sure it was.

Well, the owner of that group or whatever it is deleted the Dropbox files anyway, so justice has been served.

Sorry for tagging you guys.

Sorry.

And that was literally 2019, two years later.

Shannon Ford coming on the toes.

Here we are, full circle.

Someone did comment though when you announced the thing.

Someone was like, please bring up the OG drama.

Oh my God, I'm so glad you did.

Cause honestly, I kind of remember there was drama, but I don't remember like what it was about.

And by the way, you're 100% justified.

Thanks.

Everyone did tell me, though, immediately they were like, abort mission.

Don't fuck with the toasters.

And like, you should probably apologize for calling them toaster shooters, which I do, but it is, it is an elite breakfast item.

I like it, by the way.

I don't think my father, the inventor of the toaster shoots, would be too pleased to hear about this.

Thank you.

I'm so glad we brought that up.

But my initial question was, why profit?

Probably.

So it's really, I just had to lean in because I did it in college.

So Twitter.

Twitter was huge and there was no such thing as blue check marks yet.

So all of these celebrities' names on Twitter were the real, legit, the real Claudioshi, whatever.

So I thought I was just like so funny.

It is funny now that you explained it.

And I made mine probably Shane and Port.

And honestly, it did get quite a few laughs.

I think it's cute.

I had a single box and I kept it and then I went on the show.

Then I moved to Nashville after college and everyone kind of like, I just love attention and like people thought it was funny and they're like, oh, I get it.

That's funny.

And then I was on the show and I really probably, I tried to, I emailed the girl or I DM'd the girl on Instagram whose name is just Shannon.

Right.

Her bio literally says she works for Facebook.

So I tried to buy it from her and she was like, no.

And I was like, oh.

And what about Shannon Ford?

Is that taken?

Taken.

Yeah.

And no, hers is Shannon.

Ford.

And just Shannon.

There was two people.

Right.

Shannon and Shannon Ford.

At Shannon would be cool.

Yeah, it would just be cool.

I love people that just have like, I'm like, what ballers?

I know.

I one time tried to reach out to the girl who has Claudia and she never was like, no, yeah, exactly.

There's so much power.

There is.

There just is.

So anyways, I was on the show and then my brand started like doing all

of that.

And then I just, honestly, there's a lot of like funny things you can do with it.

Like probably a podcast.

I didn't even have to think twice whenever I was doing my podcast.

Right.

It's a great name for a podcast.

Probably a podcast.

And then like merch, like my, actually the guy that does my merch, he got me this for Christmas.

It's like, what does it say?

Probably.

Love.

And it's funny because dudes at bars will be like, you can tell they forgot my name.

And they like glance down and then they're like, fuck, that's not right.

Hey, probably, yeah, you want to know?

Yeah.

They're like, that's not your name.

So, anyways, yeah, that's where it probably started.

And I really just had to lean the fuck into it.

I'm so glad we just wrapped that up before because I had so many questions and they've been answered.

There you go.

Shannon, thank you so much for being here.

Your first time on the Morning Toast was a hit success.

I hope you will join us again.

I will with love to.

With pleasure.

And that's our show.

You guys, tomorrow we are back in the studio with Paige DiSorbo.

And then Thursday, love.

Unreal.

Thursday, Jackie's back

remote.

So we'll have a nice catch-up with Jackie on Thursday.

And then I'm headed to Chicago on Friday.

There are 30, well, last time I checked, 30 seats left at the Chicago Theater, which is so crazy.

I do believe they consider that a sell-up, but I'd really like to sell the extra 30.

So girlwithnojob.com/slash tour.

And then Kansas City on Sunday.

Hope everyone has an amazing day.

Don't forget to follow Shannon on Instagram, listen to her podcast.

She's a queen.

We love you guys.

Have an amazing day, and we'll see you tomorrow.

Bye.

Bye.