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morning, Millennials.

Welcome back to the morning toast.

Happy Thursday.

We are joined for a little afternoon toast.

By my own mistake, we will get into it.

Please welcome today's co-host, Sophia Franklin.

Sophia with an F.

Woo-woo!

Hi, everyone.

I'm back.

Yes.

Back from the dead.

Let's talk about why we're here so late and let's talk about how it's 100% my fault.

Well, yeah.

So you take it over.

I mean, let me just say, I look like a wet dog.

I'm soaking wet.

Yeah, we both got stuck in the St.

Patty's Day parade.

It was probably like one of the lowest moments of my life trying to get to work today and not being able to cross any streets and being stuck in the rain and wanting to literally die.

Having to beg a police officer to just, please, can I cross the street to get to my office and them tell you to fuck off?

It's like, I never realized how privileged I am to be able to just cross the street.

It's humbling to be told, like, no, ma'am, you have to go all the way around.

Yes.

In the rain.

Yes.

And there was a line, Claudia.

Did I skip the line?

100%.

There was a line in the street.

To cross the street.

It's just, I can't.

I just, I can't.

So I texted Sophia, like, we love you.

Will you come back on the toast while Jackie's on maternity leave?

She was so gracious.

She said, yes, of course, no problem.

And I was like, great, 10:30.

In my mind, that's what I said.

And then I wake up this morning, bright-eyed, bushy-tailed, ready to see my favorite co-host.

And I saw I have a message from you at one in the morning last night.

You're like, Did you say 1:30?

Because your Google calendar says 10:30, but you told me 1:30.

I'm like, oh, Sophia, being crazy again.

I was about to blame you.

And then I scroll up, and I realize I typed to you 1:30 because I'm a moron who doesn't know how to type, and I never read, and I just like send things off, and then I live with go on with my life.

Right.

So, we are here at 1:30 because I don't know how to type.

You have been very flexible, and I really appreciate it.

I apologize.

The funny thing is, is when Claudia texted me, you actually did the same typo again.

Oh, oh, yeah.

Like, that's how fucked up it is.

And then again, you said, no, it's for 1.30.

Yes, it is.

And then you said, no, asterisk, asterisk, whatever, 10.30.

I'm like, no, you're right.

I did make the same mistake twice.

So it's 1.30.

Sophia got here.

We're so grateful.

Thank you so much.

Again, 100% my fault.

Well, I mean, not, I'm going to blame it on the parade.

On the St.

Patty's Day parade.

100%.

Like, it's not on you.

It's on them.

And it never is on me.

That's never, ever, ever, ever.

That's a lesson.

So Sophia's joining me today.

We're going to do the whole show with Sophia, which is so exciting because your last stint on this show was so well received.

And like, look at us press girlies making press everywhere we go.

Does that give you anxiety when you end up in the press?

Um, did we end up in the press?

We were in literally like all these magazines.

Wait, are you fucking with me?

No, I'm dead serious.

Claudia, I don't live on planet Earth.

You don't have like a Google alert?

I live in...

No.

No.

You should.

It's so exciting.

Really?

Because I lived in page six.

We were in like us magazine.

Yeah.

Oh my, what?

Bits of our interview were picked up because like we were making news.

Wait, also, I'm about to fire my entire team and like PR and like where the hell are they?

No, nobody sent it to you.

Like we were literally stars.

Okay, well, I would love to see those articles.

If I had Google alerts on for my name, the anxiety I would wake up with every morning.

You like like it.

You're kind of sick like that, Claudia.

You kind of like it.

You want to know why?

Because like if something bad is happening, like I need to know about it.

Like I live in crisis mode permanently.

Oh, really?

It's from denial mode.

It's from my trauma.

Okay.

I'm denial mode.

Oh, that's how you cope?

I'm like, whatever.

If I don't see it, it doesn't exist.

I guess that's fair.

You know?

But I see everything.

I can tell.

I see that.

So much of your work is on your phone.

Do you then, when you're done working, like, are you the type of person who's on their phone a lot or no?

Constantly on my phone.

Yeah.

Yeah.

For sure.

We're being taunted by those bagpipes.

Do you hear them?

I like,

or is it like a trauma trigger?

Like, I'm not, there aren't bagpipes.

I'm just hearing them.

No, there are bagpipes.

I just, I, do they like go in circles like

around this building just like 50 times in a row?

I'm going to be trying to sleep tonight and I'm going to hear like,

oh my god, guys.

And it's, it's, we're not saying the parade is necessarily well, no disrespect to the Irish.

We're so proud of your heritage.

but like, can you fuck off?

Also, it's fucking raining.

Also, it's a Thursday.

Also, it's the middle of the day.

The Irish are obviously, they can't be stopped.

Like, even the rain won't stop their pride.

No, and directly in the center of Midtown.

It's insane.

Why don't we go just around the city, the West Side Highway?

You know what?

There's probably a reason that we don't understand, Claudia.

So you are going to join me here today to talk about all things in pop culture.

Are you like a big pop culture girly?

Do you keep up?

I'm huge, but I do like to like divulge here and there.

Are you a well-stopped divulge?

What the fuck is the word?

No, divulge.

Oh, to like.

What is the word?

Indulge.

Indulge.

Indulge.

Divulge like kind of works too.

Like, if you could say anything, I would have been like, I know, fuck.

Okay.

Indulge.

And so this week, and actually, like, the last month has been like so Kardashian heavy, obviously, because all like the Kim Kanye drama.

Now there's more stuff coming out.

Before we get into this, I just need to know like where as a person, because last time we talked about pop culture, housewives, like we were really extremely divided.

I'm curious where you landed on the Kardashians.

Like are you a big Kardashian girly?

I love them.

I don't watch them religiously, but I actually really, really love them.

I think they're genuinely funny.

Me too.

Watching the show, people try to shit on them so much.

I think they're hilarious.

Same.

And you're not one of those people who just like hates them to hate.

No.

And they remind me of kind of my family, even though I don't have one sister, but just...

I see the similarities.

It's just my mom and my aunts and, you know, we're kind of like that and inappropriate.

Are you and your sister?

Very similar.

That's why we've always loved them, like the sister dynamic.

Totally.

Family first.

You love that?

Yes.

Okay, good.

I love them.

I just wanted to make sure before we, you know, set off that we're on the right foot.

Yes.

Okay.

Well, I think that we should jump in because I'm so excited to hear what Sophie has to say about all the juicy tidbits.

And let's do it.

Let's dive into the fast five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast.

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Okay, so let's dive into the stories.

The first story is like changing the world as of yesterday.

Kim Kardashian is going on Ellen, and some of the clips came out before her appearance actually airs.

And she let us know that Pete Davidson got Kim Kardashian's name branded on his chest as a scar.

So actually you don't even need to read the article.

I literally know everything.

So all these texts were released

between Pete Pete and Kanye.

And Pete had sent a picture of himself to Kanye and was like, I'm in your wife's bed, ha ha ha.

And so many people noticed that he had a tattoo on his chest of Kim, and people were freaking out, like a tattoo.

Oh my God, such a big deal.

Then Kim went on Ellen and actually said, it's not a tattoo, it's branded, like it's a scar.

I

am at a loss for fucking words.

Yeah.

How does that go down?

Does someone carve it into his skin?

Is it like what you do to cows?

It's what you do to cows.

It's like a really hot metal rod that I guess the metal spells out Kim.

So that's basically, he's basically like, I can never cover this shit up ever, ever.

Right.

Unless I turn it into like a square.

That's the point.

It's like, you know, tattoos, technically, they're permanent, but you know, he's had a million girlfriends.

Ariana Grande got a tattoo of him.

She had it removed.

Technically, tattoos are permanent, but for celebrities, they seem to be like kind of indispensable.

Right.

So this is like, you can't ever un-brand yourself.

Like, there's no, there are tattoo removals.

There's not brand unremovals.

Like, no.

No, no.

It's for life.

I think that's the dumbest shit I've ever heard, to be completely honest.

I mean, would you want Ben doing that for you?

I would.

I would, but that doesn't mean I think it's a good idea.

Like, I like the idea of him having something permanent on himself.

I do.

But this is like psychotic, especially, you know, they met in October.

Let's get some perspective.

That's the thing.

And where is it on his chest?

It's very prominent, right here.

Right there.

Like where my left breast is.

Okay, where your heart is.

Oh, right.

Wait, let me think.

He was laying in the bed.

It might have been his right, but the iPhone flips it.

Okay, so whatever.

Makes sense.

Regardless, I think that's so stupid.

I like them as a couple, but

like carving into your skin or burning it or whatever.

Come on.

It's animalistic.

Like we don't need to do it.

We don't.

But what do you think about them as a couple?

Are you attracted to Pete Davidson?

I am not.

I saw him a month ago, or maybe less than that.

I was invited to this exclusive private Dave Chappelle.

You were?

Yes.

Where?

And.

Can you talk about it or no?

No, yeah.

It was in the most random spot.

I don't know where it was.

It was in the basement of some restaurant.

In New York?

Yes, in New York.

It wasn't like you couldn't buy tickets or anything.

Dave Chappelle performed and Pete Davidson performed.

I spent the entire time looking for Kim.

She was not there.

I was very upset.

Yeah.

Pete,

I didn't find him attractive.

I also just want to say, I don't know if stand-up is his strong suit.

What?

I know.

His whole life.

No, and that's coming from me.

Maybe he was just having an off date.

I also saw him live on SNL.

He just, he doesn't seem that well.

I mean, maybe he was going through something.

That's an extremely hot take.

Yes.

Yeah.

What was his set about?

Was it about Kim?

I think he did make one joke about Kim.

He was really just just opening for days, right?

Uh, but yes, I saw him for a split second, not attracted to him or his comedy.

Not in that way, not in that sudden.

I'm shook by this news.

Yeah, you've never thought that.

I mean, do you like his stand-up?

I've never seen it, but I did see his Netflix special, which was like 40 minutes.

It was really short.

It felt very low energy, but it did feel like all this stuff with Ariana Grande had just happened, and she was out writing songs and talking about him.

And he had never really said anything about it.

So most of the special was I think him just addressing this major, it was like his first real, before that, he was like a popular comedian, not like a major A-list celebrity.

So I think he had to just like finally address it.

And there were some really good jokes in it.

It was good.

It was fine.

It wasn't like life-changing like some of the spell stuff, but it was good.

It was fine.

Right.

And I mean, when I saw him, he's being, you know, harassed by Connie West every single day.

So I'm sure his mental headspace, I mean, whatever, whatever it was, I wasn't that impressed.

He's a thousand times better than I would ever be.

So I don't know why the fuck I'm talking, but yes, I saw him a few weeks ago, not attracted to him.

Jackie loves to quote the great Jerry Seinfeld.

Comedy is more per no, yeah.

Comedy is more personal than food.

Like everyone has their really own tastes.

I love that taste.

And then Jackie applies that like phrase to everything.

Like podcasting is more personal than comedy.

I'm using that anytime like something doesn't land.

Like someone says we're episode of shit.

Like every single time.

No, it's actually like a really good piece of advice.

Okay, so I think the branding is definitely a unique choice.

I try not to be a judgmental person.

That's like one of my goals in my new life.

Like I really try to just like let people live their lives.

And even though it's definitely not something I would ever do,

I'm happy for them.

There is something, there's a very sexy element to it.

I have been talking to this guy recently

and we just like hot and heavy just right off the bat.

He already has tattoos.

He said he wanted to get Sophia tattooed across his thigh, so I can like see it while we're like, you know,

making love.

And it's a, I'm scared, and I told him not to, but at the same time, I'm like, please go do it.

That's a turn on.

That is so sexy.

I want you.

You like are that girl though.

Like, I could just see you being that girl who makes like millions of men get tattoos of your name on them.

And then misspell it as F-O-F-I-A.

No, it's actually F-O-P-H-I-A I-A, is how my therapist fucking wrote to me one time.

Oh man, that is beyond funny.

What's the craziest?

Do you have any tattoos?

No.

Are you against them or?

I think on men, okay, I'm going to get in a lot of shit.

I think on men, they're sexy.

I do think that there can be a trashy element, like depending on the tattoo.

I like them a little bit less on women.

Again, I think there are some that I find attractive and think are hot.

I don't know.

For me, I wouldn't necessarily want to be walking down the aisle in a wedding dress and, you know, have a tattoo showing.

I think that's a sentiment a lot of people share.

Yeah.

I've never had to think about getting one because it's against my religion.

Oh, okay.

It is.

Like, you can't be buried in a Jewish cemetery.

It's for Orthodox Jewish?

Yeah, well, it's for all Jews.

Like, you really can't be buried in a...

Jewish cemetery if you have a tattoo.

Okay, well, I'm Jewish, so I guess I absolutely should.

You are?

Yeah.

Did we cover this last time or no?

I don't think so.

Tell me.

Oh, my God.

Life-changing.

Happy Purim.

Tell me.

Happy Purim to to all of our Jewish listeners.

Tell me some about your Jewish heritage.

It's bizarre.

It's very, very bizarre.

So I'm Jewish on my mom's side, which is how it's passed down.

It's a matrimonial thing.

If your mom is Jewish and your dad is not, you are technically Jewish.

If your dad is Jewish and your mom is not, you are technically a Jewish.

Yes.

Okay.

So there you go.

My grandma was born in Argentina, but she

migrated there from Ukraine, raised very, very Jewish, moved from Argentina.

There's a lot of Jewish people people in Argentina.

Moved from Argentina to Utah, where I'm from.

Similar.

Just a little swerve.

I think I was one of five Jewish people there.

Oh my god, of course.

But she then met my grandpa and decided to convert to Mormonism.

Oh, no way.

A little flip on that.

Were you raised Mormon?

A little bit, yeah.

Really?

Yes, and it fucked with my psyche.

And that's why I talk about sex.

And I'm, you know, kind of crazy, I think, I'm not going to lie.

But I also went to private Catholic school, so I'm just fucked up in all different ways.

When did you stop practicing Mormonism?

I never really did, but that doesn't change the fact that my mom is, you know, there's like a lot of people feel very senior

and all that shit.

But I think, you know, for my grandma, she's, she practices Mormonism, but she considers herself Jewish and she's

you know, she's still, we celebrate Hanukkah and all of those things.

I love that.

Yeah.

It's a queen.

You're a queen.

Yeah, you're ethnically Jewish.

Right.

So you can convert, but your blood is still Jewish.

Exactly.

Oh my God, I'm learning so much about Fofiha.

Ashkenazi.

Ashkenazi, me too.

You should come over for Shabbat.

Wait, I really, really want to.

I've only been to a few, and I would love that.

And if you do a ride, they'd be so fun.

Like, you just get lit and eat everything in sight.

Okay, are you going to invite me to the next?

I would love to.

I'm so excited.

Oh, my God.

I cannot believe Fofia Fofia is a Jewish queen.

That just like changes everything.

Okay, so you don't have any tattoos.

That was where we started.

Zero.

Maybe that's where it came from.

But you talking about Utah reminds me, you just moved to New York.

I've been here for a week.

How is it?

Incredible, horrifying, amazing, terrifying, all over the place.

It feels really, really good to be back.

I forgot just

how

much of a shit show it is.

I mean, I had a car.

Right.

I didn't have to get a certificate of insurance and be approved by 27 people to get a couch.

To get a couch.

Yeah.

You know, just those types of things.

Of course.

And plus, I have no furniture in my apartment, so I'm really living in squalor.

The first few weeks, now actually, because of COVID and furniture delays are like months.

The first few weeks/slash months in a new apartment where like you're on the mattress on the floor, you don't have blinds is so dark.

Literally.

Very,

very dark.

Horrible.

Well, I'm top of your hair.

Well, thank you so much.

By the way, I'm having the best time ever.

I'm never leaving.

I love you so much.

But also, you have to like realize I just went from living with my family and my boyfriend in the same house to living completely alone.

So two years with mom, brother, boyfriend, a million people.

Roommates before that, and now living alone.

Do you like living alone?

I love it.

I have realized there are certain, I find myself doing certain like, oh, it's really silent in here.

I guess I should turn the TV on for background music.

Yeah, like there's little things like that.

And it's like, wait, it feels a little bit empty.

I think I need to call someone right now.

You know, shit like that.

But are you the type of person who likes being alone?

Like, I am terrified of the dark.

I've never lived by myself.

Like,

I think it takes a really secure and independent type of person to be able to like flourish on their own.

Well, I'm that bitch.

Yeah,

because I do really, really like it.

You do.

Especially, I guess, cutting it from like a little bit of chaos.

Yeah.

There's so many people in your house before.

Yes.

Also, though, I have spent the last week, like from the day I touched down till probably yesterday, just going out, drinking, partying.

That was the next question.

Yeah, I've been going out a lot.

Where are Sophia's favorite places to go out in New York?

Well, let's see.

Where did I go?

I've been to Socialista quite a bit.

I went to Zero Bond.

I wanted to talk to you about that because I know you're a member.

Yes, yes.

Gorgeous inside.

Stunning.

Good food, great vibes.

Great food.

Good food.

Yeah.

Okay.

Can you go there during the day or no?

Yeah.

I've never been, but you can.

I think it's like, because it's a, I think people like to work there, have meetups.

That's what I'm saying.

I kind of want to get a membership.

You can definitely like work from there.

I'm a huge fan of Zerabunda.

I hope they open more locations in different cities.

Yeah.

Gorgeous inside.

Where else have I been?

Just really all over the place.

Do you have a lot of friends in New York?

Yes, I do.

Not, I feel like my friends are spread out throughout the U.S.

and a lot of them are mental queen.

Yes, thank you so much.

But they pop in and out.

I wouldn't say I have so many fucking friends here, but like I have a good core group.

That's all that matters.

And I'm meeting people just rapidly.

Good.

And it's just great for the podcast.

Like you're building your business.

So many people come in and out of New York.

So many people live here who have podcasts.

It must be easier for you now to have in-person guests and stuff.

That was, I mean, that was one of the biggest reasons that I was like, I need to get out of Utah and go to New York York because what type of collaborations am I doing in Utah?

The wheelhouse was at Salt Lake City.

Rachel Parcell.

I was just going to say, Rach Parcell, do you stand Rachel Parcell?

We're obsessed with her here.

Yes, I do.

What?

No, nope.

No.

I don't want to hear anything bad.

I'm obsessed.

No, I am obsessed with her.

I was going to just spill a little tea that's not even bad about her, but then I was like, that's tea and I don't want to be that bitch.

But you know, I usually want to hear tea, but not for me.

No.

Her style is amazing.

Her home.

I was on the same cheerleading team as her.

Shut up.

I used to stare at her all day long and be like, oh, she's a goddess.

For those who don't know, Rach Parcel is a really, really big

Instagram fashion icon queen.

She's like one of those, she's the original and the biggest like Mormon blogger.

Yeah.

Her content is so premium.

Her kids are so cute.

She has her own line of clothing.

I love her.

I do love her too.

Have you seen her clothes in Nordstrom?

It's amazing.

I have.

Every time she wears her Sunday best to church, I'm like, gotta go to church.

Right.

I never bought anything because I would never wear a dress like that in my life unless I was going to church and I'm Jewish and like I barely go to synagogue.

Right.

So exactly.

What there will be an event in my life one day that requires a rage parcel dress and I will be purchasing it.

Okay, and you need to tell me and I want to see it.

But I mean, that's what I'm saying.

If I were to do a collab in Utah, it would be with a mommy blogger or, you know, a real housewife.

Yeah.

And that's not really my brand.

No, no.

It's more my brand, actually.

It really is.

It really is.

So

I had to move back here.

Yeah, no, I'm so glad you're here.

Right.

And you've got got a friend in me.

Oh, my God.

What?

Wait, what did you say?

And you've got a friend in me.

Oh, my God.

I thought you said you unfriended me.

No, no, you better.

What are you better talking about?

Okay.

Okay, that was quite a tangent, but back to the Kardashians.

The second story is about Kanye West.

He's been suspended from Instagram for 24 hours after a Trevor Noah attack.

Oh, man, I'm so like well-read on these stories today.

I don't even need to read the articles.

Let me tell you what happened.

Trevor Noah did this actually quite beautiful segment on his show

talking about how he grew up in a in an abusive home from the ages ages of nine to 16.

And what a lot of people, and it's actually very similar to something I said on the show.

What a lot of people aren't talking about with this Kim and Kanye stuff.

It's like what Kanye is doing, it's like, yeah, we're all consuming it.

It's like funny, haha, but it's abuse and it's harassment and it's not letting an ex of yours go and just berating them.

And this happens to millions of women who don't have the security and the money that Kim Kardashian has.

And that's why when people are always like to abusive women, like, why didn't you leave?

It's like, well, look what happens when someone does leave.

And so he really said a lot of very profound profound things in defense of Kim and just like defending women.

And Kanye obviously didn't like it.

And he posted, you know, a bunch of shit on his Instagram.

And one of the things he posted was very inappropriate.

And in the caption, I think it was four or five times he referred to Trevor Noah as a racial slur,

the K word, which

was beyond.

And Meta, which is the company that owns Instagram and Facebook, disabled his account for 24 hours.

He's unable to comment, send messages, or post for 24 hours.

And they also also said that if Kanye continues to violate the policies, the company will take additional steps.

So I just feel like this is Instagram out here doing the bare minimum, like the bare minimum.

24 hours.

This should have happened a long time ago.

Right.

And it had to get to this place.

Right.

It's like insanity.

No, like our account was literally taken down for two months and like

we did nothing wrong, but like someone's out here publicly harassing, stalking, being super abusive, and like 24 hours is all we get.

Why do you think they do that?

Do you think they do that because people say, oh my gosh, Kanye is saying this on Instagram and they're getting, you know, clicks?

No, I think that like they have

terms and conditions and terrible

that are bullshit.

But technically what Kanye has been doing up until this point, and that's exactly what Trevor Noah said, it's not illegal what he's doing, so he can't be arrested.

And it doesn't necessarily violate their terms and policies, but calling someone a racial slur does because they have a policy against hate speech.

I see.

So it's like, it's bullshit.

But it's still bullshit because, I mean, I've gotten in trouble for saying,

oh my gosh, I was trying to look for Molly.

Like,

I posted a picture and I said I was looking for Molly.

It was from five years ago.

I was sitting in my cubicle when I was working in finance and I got taken off Instagram for a few days.

What did you do in finance?

I like

the bottom of the barrel roll.

I always say I worked in finance and people are like, oh my God.

But really, I just, I worked for for a team of financial advisors.

I hated it.

That's impressive.

Yeah.

I mean, I mean, getting your foot in the door was impressive.

I was trying to study.

Right.

I was trying to study for my series seven, but what's that?

I have no idea.

Okay, cool, cool.

Gotta get me a series seven.

Sounds like a Mercedes.

It does.

It totally does, but I'm really happy Kanye was taken off.

Me too.

Also, it's been such a peaceful 24 hours.

Right.

Also, Instagram has no right to diagnose anyone,

but it's, you know, it's widely known that there's struggles.

Yeah.

And so I think it's, it's just the right thing to do.

I agree.

And

I'd say this every day.

It's like, it's our job to come on here and report what happened.

And obviously, every day for the last month, there's been some update with Kanye and I know people are tired of hearing it and I'm tired of reporting on it.

But I just feel like there's so many people consuming this and like living for it.

Like, oh my God, the gossip.

And it's not like it's really sad.

And like, if you apply this situation to people who are not Kim and Kanye, who don't have millions of dollars, who don't have security, like, it's heartbreaking.

Like, and I'm sure everyone knows, you know, they either grew up in a home that went through something similar, they have a friend who's going, like, it's not fucking funny, and it's really annoying.

And, like, honestly, Ben keeps asking me to watch part two and part three of the Kanye documentary.

And we watched the first part, and I thought it was amazing, but I'm just so annoyed.

Like, I'm so annoyed with Kanye.

Like, I just break.

Yes.

And I actually talked about this on my podcast as well.

It's fucked up what Kanye's doing.

At the same time, we know he's struggling, so it's hard to be totally angry at him.

But what he's doing to Kim, people find it just kind of funny, and oh my god, and it doesn't really affect her.

She's rich, but it's abuse.

What are you doing?

No matter how much money you have, it's actually crazy to see.

And this is exactly what Trevor Noah said: you could be the most powerful woman in the world.

Kim Kardashian is the most famous woman in the world, and even she's not.

We're all equal.

Like, she's going through this like a million other people do.

Yes.

And how terrifying that someone who you had kids with and very personal intimate life with knows everything knows everything and at any moment will say something that could hurt you or your family it's every woman's worst nightmare it is it really really is and so i'm just like so over kanye and like i need him to just get himself together

and

i forget who said this but i read it somewhere it's like you know struggling with mental health is no excuse for this yeah because it's abuse no it is can i just say a side note i saw i saw trevor noah

like four months ago okay it's so hot Okay, that's so funny.

Me and Jackie have a Trevor Noah story too.

We saw him at brunch once, and it was like a buffet brunch at Soho House, and we were like, obviously, like dying.

I mean, he got up to go to the like buffet, and we were just shook at the size of his tushi.

Like, he has like a, he has like a, like, a really good, like, like, juicy ass.

Like, I'll never forget, like, that's my fun fact about Trevor Noah.

Like, he's always sitting at the desk at the daily show, so you don't see his tuchlus, but his tuchlus is actually, like, really juicy.

That is fucking amazing.

Do you like, do you know Minkie Kelly?

Yes.

Do you even tell you you look like her?

Wait, did we have this conversation?

I'm in the Twilight Zone.

I'm the queen of repeating things.

Me too.

I think we maybe have this.

No.

Someone else told me that.

Well, I was in Alpha.

Oh my God, you were on Dumas Green Room.

And she said the same thing.

You do.

Who do people tell you you look like?

Jessica Alba.

Oh, you do.

But I do have one of those faces where I think people think I look like everyone.

I will have people say, oh, I know you from somewhere and I've never met them in my entire life.

Chameleon.

I just look like I look like everyone.

Yeah, but you actually really do look like Minky Kelly, which is such a compliment because she is like the most beautiful girl.

That's the nicest thing anyone has ever told me.

Yeah, I could totally look like Snookie.

So, like, we're just like not on the show.

We're just no, you do not.

No, I know I don't, but we're just like, the people really tell me I look like Ricky Lake, who's 65 years old.

I don't know who that is, right?

Um, Beanie Feldstein, and Snookie.

And I'm sitting here with Minky Kelly/slash/Jess Calba, and it just is.

It ain't right, please.

It ain't right, please.

I'm saying that we're gonna be able to do it.

I've also been told I look like Steve Buscemi.

What?

Which I kind of do in this weird way.

Claudia, I'm not kidding.

Like the eyes, like the back, like there's something Steve Buscemi-ish there.

I've been told I look like people that are, that might be the funniest thing you've ever said.

You do not look like Steve Buscemi.

You do look like Jessica Allah.

Don't let.

Don't be a Steve.

Be a Jessica, okay?

Okay, I will.

Actually, be a Sophia.

No, be a Fofia.

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Okay, moving on, let's back out of the Kardashians.

But Kim was just on Ellen and Ellen is entering like her final era of television dumb after like torturing us for so many years.

I didn't even know she was on television still.

Well, you know, she was like canceled for being evil.

And then she came back and like addressed it a little bit, but now I think she's just like hoping we all forget.

And we haven't forgotten, but she is ending her show.

And she's giving her staff, quote, millions of dollars in bonuses as the show ends.

Stop.

So much money.

Literally.

Ellen is handing out, quote, millions of dollars in bonuses to her staffers.

The Post can exclusively reveal.

The final episode of the Ellen Generes show is set to air May 26th, with a source telling the Post on Wednesday that Ellen and the production company, Warner Brothers worked together to make sure every person was taken care of.

The exact seven-figure sum that will be distributed to the staffers was not disclosed, but the source declared it was not even a question for Ellen to cover bonuses.

It was very important to her.

The insider added that the host has been incredibly generous to employees since the show began back in 2003 after putting them all through hell in a toxic workplace.

Can you imagine your boss making you cry, go home and cry every single day for two years and then being like, here's a few thousand bucks.

Well, well imagine if she well she says millions of dollars in bonuses which probably means how many people do you think work for her and what a shit ton like maybe 50 to 100 you think that's fair fair camera guys producers right

i mean i would take the money but no obviously i would take the money and then write a tell-all book but i'm sure the money the money comes with some sort of nda honestly Oh.

I hate to be so negative because I do want to believe Ellen's a good person.

Like she has changed millions of lives on that show, but it's easy to be nice to everyone when you're on TV.

It's when the cameras are off, are you nice to people?

No.

I think, you know what, when there are a certain amount of people that come out and say, you can't just, you can't deny it anymore.

You're dead, rollover.

Right?

Yeah.

Oh my gosh.

This is the craziest thing.

I was shopping for a couch, right?

This was yesterday.

I saw your Instagram story.

I actually did like that white couch you have.

Okay, you did.

Okay.

It's very trendy right now.

Thank you.

And it's going to be so ugly next year.

I'm going to throw away $4,000.

But we go with the trend.

And the white is tough.

And we go with the trends, though.

Right.

I deserve trends.

You're trendy.

You're trendy.

I was living in my mom's basement for two years.

Let me get the $4,000 couch, please.

I think that's fair.

So I'm looking for

another couch,

and I see Ellen DeGeneres has

furniture.

Yeah, no, it's not better than Jenny Kane home.

No, it's not.

Yes, I actually, when I was in college, I went to Bed Bathamy on like my day of move-in to go to get like all the stuff for my dorm.

And I was looking at this bed spread and it said ED by Ellen DeGeneres.

I'm like, excuse me?

Erectile dysfunction.

It makes her so rich.

It's like huge for her.

You know what she is?

And she wins too.

Yeah, E.D.

by Ellen.

Why?

Okay, well, first of all, I've never heard of it.

Second of all, I was so turned off by seeing her name

that I didn't even look at what type of couch she had to offer.

But do know, like, while we hate her, there are like millions of women like who die for her, who've been watching her for years, who don't, who don't care.

Like, that's why she's so rich.

They watch her show religiously.

They buy everything she does they watch all of her Ellen tube all those little kids that she like puts on contract yeah like they're obsessed to die for with her yes yes and they watch they watch her every day I get that I get that so I mean it's kind of crazy that Ellen is leaving TV because she's been on TV for as long as like I've been watching TV but I'm just like over her but what I really do like about Ellen well not Ellen her show is that the Kardashians not to bring everything back to the Kardashians the Kardashians like love and trust her and anytime they have like a big interview they always go on Ellen and she does a good job I have to give credit she does a good job interviewing them and she all these celebrities love her.

So like she gets amazing guests.

Even though there's like a million talk show hosts who celebrities are friends with, Ellen has this power over people.

Everyone goes on her show.

Presidents, like it's crazy.

She is extremely talented as an interviewer in a bunch of ways.

And you know what?

I say I don't like her.

I don't like to say that until I know the full scope and the full story, but it does look really bad.

But you know what?

I like to think that her, you know, people coming forward about the toxic workplace, I like to think she heard that and changed.

You know, let's give people the benefit of the doubt.

Yes.

Hopefully.

Yes.

I love that approach.

Okay.

We're changing course just a little bit because have you been keeping up with the Jussie Smullet saga?

No.

I haven't.

I mean, I know what happened, but I have not been keeping up.

So, you know, last week he was sentenced to jail, five months in jail and like a couple hundred thousand dollars in fines.

No.

Yeah, and he was like in the courtroom screaming, like, I'm not suicidal.

If anything happens to me, I'm not suicidal.

It was crazy.

And he had to be like taken out of the courtroom.

Yeah.

And then his brother posted something basically saying he's been put in,

what is it called when you're alone in prison?

Isolation.

Isolate.

Yes.

Isolation.

Yeah.

Isolation cabin.

Cabin.

Shiroach parent trap.

No.

Isolate confined.

No, Ice came out.

Yes, I remember.

Solitude.

Solitary confinement.

Oh, my God.

There it is.

So, and like, it was like this crazy thing.

But now, Jesse Smullett walks out of jail after the appeal court orders a release.

So basically,

as far as, let me just read it because I'm want to make sure I like fully understand it.

But he is officially out of jail.

Following the decision earlier today, the Illinois appeal court cut short the former Empire Star's sentence.

And he walked out of Cook County jail at around 8 p.m.

local time.

He was surrounded by members of his defense team, family, and other supporters.

And his defense attorney told the media that his client only drank water over the past six months and ate no food whatsoever.

That's interesting.

And what I had read was basically like he filed for an appeal.

And these days, like the appeals court takes so long that by the time they would be able to get him an appeal, he would already be out of jail because it was only a five-month sentence.

So they just let him out because he was a nonviolent offender and he didn't like, you know, hurt anyone or kill anyone.

He just like wasted a

parent's time and lied.

Right.

Which is a crime, but it's not a violent crime.

So he's out of prison and he spent like six days in prison.

Why?

Okay.

Why is his defense attorney saying the water and is are they trying to do like a mental insanity case?

You know, what it sounded like to me was that he was clearly when he was in the courtroom last week and they told him he was going to jail he's like i'm not suicidal he seemed kind of paranoid that something might happen to him so maybe he didn't eat anything he didn't want to be poisoned okay i see or maybe i'm watching like too much orange is a new black but yeah but that's what you do like to act a little fbi

that's what i i don't know why she shared the statement about water no i don't know either that's very interesting i would love to ask her about it but is he ever getting an acting role ever again i don't i I think he will.

Me too, because, you know, I was looking for show, for articles to talk about this morning and page six.

It was like, Jesse Smollett, who's best known for his role on Empire.

It's like, actually, he's best known for lying to the police and making up a hate crime.

Actually, like, not either.

Actually, 100%.

Well, his sister, Jernie Smollett, is like pretty up and coming.

She's pretty popular.

Okay.

I don't know.

I mean, the thing is, it happened so long ago that really, even though it was so crazy and so fucked up, like, it just seems like less of a big deal now that it was like, I remember when it was happening and people were outraged like even the you know a really famous successful guy it could happen to anyone and then like when he found we found out he was lying it was like he took advantage of us like everyone was like but now it's been like a couple years it was like was it so bad right right time heals all wounds people even though like it was a terrible thing to do it was it really like made light of the whole thing and People who doubt victims now are going to doubt because of Jussie.

Like what he did was horrible.

But it was horrible.

I do think that because of what he did, he almost might get a role.

You think?

I think.

Well, he's more famous now.

It might be like Shark Nado.

Like one of those types of movies.

Not a role anyone really wants to take.

Kind of.

Yeah.

But he has some notoriety now.

That's true.

And I think that he will get a role in something watched.

I do agree that it'll be very interesting to watch.

what happens to his career, like if he continues to work.

Yeah.

That was such a crazy thing.

It was such a crazy time in America.

Like, it was just chaotic.

I'm just remembering, like, what?

Speaking of prison, like, total random segue, but people always ask me, like, what my final meal would be.

Like, if I ever went to prison, like, what would your final meal be?

That's such a good question.

My favorite food in the entire world is sushi.

However,

I have been to jail.

Oh my god.

So sorry, I forgot.

You have like a mug chat and everything.

Let's talk.

Sorry.

Let's just backtrack really quickly.

Can you tell me about the day you were arrested?

So I've been arrested multiple times.

Oh, really?

Yes.

One of them, I was actually, there's the drunk tank and then there's being booked into jail.

And drunk tank is like when you're just acting a fool and they wait for you to sober up and they let you go.

Basically.

Okay.

Basically.

One of my arrests, I was actually booked into the jail.

So orange jumpsuit.

They took all of my belongings.

I had extensions in my hair.

They asked me if it was my hair and I was like, fuck, yes, it is.

I paid for it.

Were they going to take it out?

They took it out.

How?

On my butt.

They were clip-ins.

Oh, okay.

I was disgusting back then.

Blonde hair, clip-ins falling out of my head all day, just whatever.

Yeah.

On my police report at the top, it says, it has like a star, and it says, We, because they confiscate everything, and it said, have her clip-in extensions at the very top.

It's incredible.

But I was booked into the jail, and I was, may I ask?

Underage, public intoxication, underage drinking, resisting arrest.

In Utah?

Yes.

Okay.

Thank you for sharing, by the way.

Yeah, yes, 100%.

I do have a mug shot.

I've seen it on some of your merch.

I have two.

Which one do you like better?

Not the one that is publicized.

Well, that's just how the world works, honestly.

Right?

And what was jail like?

So

it was very interesting.

I actually made really good friends in there.

I had no idea how long I was going to be in there for.

I think they were trying to fuck with me a little bit and kind of trying to scare me straight.

And they were like, you could be in here for up to a week.

Right.

You could be on that show A ⁇ E scared straight.

Yes.

And, but the thing is, is there were, there were women in there for really crazy shit.

Right.

You know, like murder

stuff.

Right.

But anyways, my jail cell.

Um, the, I shared a bunk.

Top or bottom?

I was on the bottom.

She was already at the top.

She did not say hi to me.

Um,

I was young.

That was my first time ever there.

I was terrified.

And so I decided to reach out to her.

Although a sweet lady did tell me before I got in there to not talk to anyone and not tell anyone what I did, like real shit.

I didn't listen.

I didn't listen.

And I remember asking the girl on the top bunk, I said, I'm just really, really scared.

Do you have any advice for me?

Because, you know, it seems like you've been here for a while.

You're very relaxed up there.

And I'll never forget these words.

She said,

It's scarier out there than it is in here.

Wow.

So that's chilling.

That's chilly.

I'm like, I don't know what you've been up to.

She crawled down.

But the whole point, my whole point is the jail food.

No, wait, sorry, I have more questions if we're watching the jail food.

I'm just like, shut the fuck up.

So, how many evenings did you spend in the facility?

I was only there, I think, for

maybe

48 hours, which is a long time.

Oh my God, it's an eternity.

An eternity.

You can't, I don't have people's phone numbers memorized.

I can't call anyone.

Was your family wondering where you were?

Did they know?

Oh, oh, they went to the jail.

My grandpa walked in, was freaking out, let her out.

Like all she did was, you know, get too drunk.

But

my cellmate came down.

So, oh, whoops, that's okay.

They gave us

food, jail food.

In the cell?

You ate in like a cafeteria?

In the cell.

They shove it underneath the door.

And I took a bite and I literally spit it out into my napkin.

And I was repulsed.

And I was.

What was it?

Oh, my.

I think it was like

some macaroni, but it wasn't fucking macaroni.

And then a roll that was just not a fucking roll.

And then like meatloaf that was not fucking meatloaf.

It was just, it was horrifying.

Oh, my God.

And I, um,

my cellmate comes down from the bottom bunk.

This is the first time she's come down.

And she asked if she could have my plate of food.

That was the only thing she really said to me besides the other thing.

And I said, sure.

And she took the tray and she went back up to her bunk.

And that was it.

She was really scary.

I was really scared to be in there.

I was like, what is she going to do to me?

But, anyways, the food is actually really, really, really fucking bad.

So.

Oh, back to Jesse Smallette.

Yeah.

With my experience,

I wouldn't wouldn't go for sushi.

I would, oh my god, I would have to go.

I think steak.

I forgot the original question.

I've been so wrapped up in storytelling.

Well, you know what?

Do you know, you remember Alexis Nyer's Pretty Wild Bling Ring?

Yes, yes.

So, she came on the show and she basically struggled with addiction.

And at the height of her addiction, is when she got arrested.

And she said she spent the first couple nights in jail going through withdrawal because obviously she didn't have any drugs in jail.

And the way she, like, the picture she painted, she said literally the first night in prison, like the pictures she painted, like, I was just, it was horrifying it's the scariest fucking thing in the entire world I didn't know when I would get out right they give you like little recess breaks and besides that you're in a tiny little cell um and all you have access to are like some bullshit books right how old were you

that time well you were underage drinking right yes so I want to say I was 18, 19.

That's so young.

Very young.

It was like, It was the most traumatic thing.

And I couldn't talk to the outside world.

The only person I could talk to was like a bail bondsman.

And I was crying to him.

And he was very nice.

And he calmed me down.

I did make friends in there, though.

I did.

You still talked to them?

No, I didn't get their phone numbers.

I think all of us were a little bit distraught.

Were they your age?

There was one girl that I just

was, it was like a magnetic field that I went to her.

She was my age.

She didn't look like she had maybe murdered someone,

you know.

But they were nice in there.

Okay.

You know, there's definitely like clicks.

Like they form clicks in there.

Right.

And I'm like sitting there.

I'm like, fuck, I don't know what clique I belong in.

I don't know how long I'm going to be in here.

Can I ask you a question?

Did you go to college?

Yes.

And was applying to college like a journey?

Was that on your record?

No, but it's fucked with other things that I tried to get.

Right, like apartments?

Not

actually,

yes, because every time I get a background check, it does show up and it's it's so minor.

It's not a felony.

I did get a felony, but it was taken off

for forgery, which sounds really, really bad, right?

I was on the cover of Busted Newspaper, which was a Utah newspaper for anyone who got arrested that week.

It was at every 7-Eleven, every gas station, all around Utah.

I was the front cover.

It said I got arrested for forgery because I had used a fake ID.

Oh, the drama.

The drama.

And people were like, were you forging checks?

Right.

That's what I'm saying.

And you want to work in finance.

Right?

Right.

And so it was just really messed up.

But it's Utah, there's no crime.

And so they're just going off to,

you know.

So it has like, it's followed you in your life quite a bit.

Not,

it hasn't been detrimental, but I mean, do you know what global entry is?

Oh, you're not eligible?

I applied and they denied me and I appealed it and they denied me again.

Is that why?

I wrote like a three-page essay as to why I shouldn't be held.

like, I shouldn't be getting in trouble for stuff I did eight years ago.

They don't care.

They don't want me on it.

They don't want me traveling globally that easily.

Well, can I tell you something?

I'm not a Global Entry member.

And at certain airports, and that's why I always fly internationally into JFK, they have this thing called Mobile Passport.

It's an app that you download that nobody knows about.

And I don't even wish I was not blowing it up on the spot right now.

The line is shorter than Global Entry, and you get through the, my friend Brian, he's like a traveler.

He has Global Entry.

When we travel internationally, I have my mobile passport.

We get through in the same exact amount of time.

No way.

Yep.

It's like as you're on the plane, you have like three hours before you land to fill out the information on mobile entry and you just go right through.

Okay, my life has completely changed.

Don't feel bad about it.

I don't have global entry either and I'm like a big traveler and it's just because I'm too lazy to go to Brooklyn to do the appointment.

Oh, I tried to get global entry for over a year.

That's how like dedicated I was.

That is so interesting.

Thank you for sharing all of that.

I really appreciate it.

Do you still like feel triggered by it?

Like you have dreams about jail?

Oh my God.

No, no, no, no, no.

I was out of control.

I probably deserve to like go in there, honestly.

I feel like it's a lot of people.

Like personally, my worst nightmare, like when I have crazy nightmares, it's about going to jail.

It's like something I'm most afraid of.

Billy.

Yeah.

And I think that's common for a lot of people.

Being convicted wrongly of something is just being in.

It's not even about the trial.

It's not about the crime.

It's just being in prison.

So you've kind of faced head-on what I think a lot of people are like, yeah, in their lives, most afraid of.

You're like a fucking scary ass bitch.

It made me the woman I am today.

Hi, my, my, I'm wearing the hoodie.

Oh, yeah.

Is that your merch?

Yes.

Where can people get it?

They can get it at SophiaFranklin.com.

The merge says, our attorney will get us out of everything

because

I'm 18 years old.

I do not have an attorney.

My family does not have that type of money where I should be saying anything remotely near that.

And when the police were arresting me, I told my friend to shut the fuck up that our attorney would get us out of everything.

It's like something you probably saw on TV.

Literally on TV, literally probably thought it made me sound rich and cool.

And it's so cringy.

And it's in my police report.

The cop actually wrote it down.

That is so cringy.

I'm dying.

Well, now that's it's iconic off of it iconic it is no you know what you are now in the perfect business because first of all your life as someone who's been to prison endless episodes and nobody cares if you have a record when you're a podcaster no one i'm i'm in the right business that's for sure how did you get the job in finance

That was actually tricky.

It was an issue and I did have to write and explain.

But also finance, I mean, they let some shit slide.

No, I mean, everyone in finance goes to jail eventually.

You just scared to step.

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Now, our final story is some disappointing news to people who don't want to pay for Netflix because this might be the end of sharing Netflix passwords.

No.

Netflix knows you share your password and soon you might have to start paying for the privilege.

Over the last year, Netflix has been working on a way to enable members who share outside their household to do so easily and securely while also paying a bit more.

I like how they're making it seem like they're helping us.

Like you're going to do it more securely.

Who cares?

Who cares?

As a part of that effort, over the next two weeks, Netflix will roll out two test features in Chile, Costa Rica, and Peru called Extra Member and Profile Transfer.

With Extra Member, people who subscribe to Netflix standard and premium plans can pay to add an account for up to two people they don't live with.

Those extra members will have access just like any other Netflix account, including their own profile and login, but at a discounted rate.

So you're still paying a membership.

They don't understand.

We don't need it to be all fancy.

Like people are using fucking Netflix passwords from people they dated 10 years ago and it's like no one's getting hurt.

No one is getting hurt.

They're using that as a cover-up.

No, they're just they just raised their prices and then they made these like family plans.

So like me and my family, we all have different profiles.

We're paying more.

Like leave us alone.

Leave us alone.

Do you have enough money?

I was just gonna say that I'm all about being greedy, but Netflix has enough money.

They've made enough questionable movies.

They paid literally Adam Sandler $300 million for like a couple movies.

Like they obviously have indispensable wealth.

Like fuck off.

Leave us alone.

Leave us alone.

It ain't right.

Oh my gosh.

Do you think they're going to really enforce it?

Well, Well, they're going to test it.

They are.

Like, Netflix, when you're that big, no one's going to cancel their Netflix over this because people can't live without Netflix.

When you're that monopoly,

we can't do anything about it.

Do you pay for your own Netflix?

I don't pay for any streaming service.

I have everyone's password.

Which Netflix do you use?

In my family, like we all take on different things.

Like, I don't pay for Netflix.

I don't pay for Hulu, but I do.

I think I pay for the HBO Max.

I don't need it to tell everyone.

I have...

There are some passwords that I log ins that I don't even know who they are, but mostly ex-boyfriends.

Maybe a couple from my mom.

Spotify is my mom, but the rest are just dudes.

It's like so annoying.

Like now we're paying for so many subscriptions.

I still have cable.

Are you a cable girly?

Yes.

Which cable do you have in New York?

I got Ryzen.

That's a good one.

Is that the better way to go than Spectrum?

So I have like a really warm place in my heart for Spectrum.

It's like what I grew up with.

That doesn't mean it's the best, but it's like the interface I'm most comfortable with.

And it reminds me of home.

I just like love it.

And I switched out of it and I felt this like gaping hole in my heart for Spectrum.

Wow.

But if you are not a loser like me, I'm like, whoa, whoa, Rising.

I got some attachments.

Ryzen's like the fastest.

It's the best one.

Okay.

See, neither of those exist in Utah.

So I had to.

What did you have in Utah?

Xfinity?

Xfinity.

And then what is the other one?

There's another one.

I don't know.

Dish.

Dish.

Dumber Dish with a satellite.

Xfinity is actually really good.

I like it.

It is.

Yeah.

Well, I think Verizon's the best.

Me too.

They don't have Xfinity here.

Oh, okay.

It's like a regional thing.

I think they have it in Boston, but they don't have it here.

Got it.

Got it.

I don't don't think they do.

I don't know anyone who does.

I cannot believe you were that attached to.

I have issues.

No, but actually.

Yeah, no, I love Spectrum.

It's just like this random thing that brings me comfort.

Like, it just reminds me of growing up with my sisters.

I know it's like really weird.

No, that's so interesting.

I'm trying to think if there's some random

die-hopped to something.

Were you the type of kid who like brought their own teddy bear blankets to sleepovers?

No.

No, I just found out my husband podcasted with me on Tuesday that he was.

And he was that kid.

And he grew up in the city and he left his bear in a cab after a sleepover, and it was like the the worst day of his life.

Was he also the kid that in the middle of the night would ask for his parents to pick him up?

That's literally what I asked him.

Yes.

And here's the real kicker.

He was a kid in the middle of the night.

Well, he was a kid who went to Sleep Rovers, brought his own teddy bear, and also brought his own fan.

No, yeah, no, a honeymoon black fan.

Yeah, he brought it with him everywhere.

He said, like a face fan or like a plug-in fan.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Claudia.

No, no, no, no, no.

I swear to God.

To plug into the wall.

Yeah.

It's the cutest thing I've ever heard, but like the crazy.

And also, just know, like, when my husband husband was younger, he was like obese.

So, like, that's why he was probably really hot.

He'll admit it to you.

He needed the fan.

Wait, how is it recording with him?

Oh, my God.

Do you do it a lot?

No, well, I do it like Jackie does it, and I do it.

He always fills in for one of us.

And it's like, we have a very interesting dynamic.

And like, we're very, we bicker.

And then when you put that on a podcast, people feel weird and they tell you your marriage is like trash.

And for me, like, I get so much shit for everything.

But like when people start

people tell you, your marriage is trash.

Like, I'm so mean to Ben.

Like, you guys have affective dynamics.

Oh, I mean, of course.

When I, that's, like, one thing I can't take heat on.

Like, I could really, I have gotten shit backlash for.

You're sensitive about that.

I'm so, so, I try and honestly avoid.

We were going to do a podcast together because, like, it's so fun.

Um, but the critiques about my marriage, like, are so tough for me.

Um, so he was on on Tuesday, and like, I was, like, literally acting like a different person.

Like, I'm just, and it's not, it's just who I am.

I'm like critical.

I'm like, I joke, I poke fun.

And so is Ben.

And, like, we're used to that dynamic but if you're new to you're just listening like you I guess you could be like Claudia's a bitch so I was just being protective of him almost yeah on Tuesday like I was literally you should read the comments on this YouTube like people were like who is this person like you're like honey bear

like and that's just not how I am like I'm fucking I'm like this New York Jew I'm very to the point I'm tough and it rubs people the wrong way so I honestly like I would love to podcast with him more but I have like trauma well I also have trauma because of all that shit that happened.

And I'm really curious in my next relationship if I even want to make it public or not.

Right.

No, I know we spoke about that last time a little bit.

Like, it's definitely something that scarred you.

Yes.

Right.

And I don't know.

It's hard because it's...

you it's your life and so you want to share but you also need to protect certain things in your life yeah so i mean what do you think like well i think it depends are you dating a celebrity are you dating a private person i mean if i'm dating a celebrity that's going everywhere and it's elevating my celebrity.

Right, like how private is this person?

It depends on the person.

Also, they might have someone to say, like, no, I don't want to be on it, you know?

Yeah, I think that they would be totally down to be on it.

They're not a celebrity at all.

Are you talking about a specific person in your life right now?

Um, just a teeny tiny bit.

Oh, okay.

So there is an actual person.

I thought we were being hypothetical.

There's kind of,

we are being hypothetical because it's way too early and it takes me months and months and months to even be like, I'm thin, yeah, entertaining this.

Honestly, after what you'd been through, like I wouldn't be shocked and I wouldn't blame you for keeping that shit private.

I think so too.

And I think I would be the same way as you.

There's certain relationships that are, it's protective.

Yes, it's too much.

And you'll never regret being private about it, but you will regret being public about it.

Yeah.

That's my sage advice.

And I mean, I think I've heard stories from people saying being public about it can ruin a relationship.

No, and like I know of YouTubers who have like, you know, blown up their partners and then their partners get divorced and they're like, now they have a platform to talk shit about you and you gave them that motherfucking platform.

Right.

So, honestly, I'd say no.

Okay.

I like that answer.

And I like you.

And I love you for being here.

Thank you so much.

And thanks for sharing all that jail stuff.

That was super interesting.

Everyone, Sophia has a podcast.

It's called Sophia with an F.

She drops episodes every week.

It's so great.

You have tons of guests.

She's in New York now.

She's going to be on the toast as much as we need her to be.

Literally.

And yeah, the merch is SophiaFranklin.com.

Your Instagram is just SophiaFranklin, Sophia with an S, Franklin with a Y.

You just said Sophia with an S.

Oh, fuck.

Sophia with an F, Franklin with a Y, Sophia Yanklin.

And

I love you.

Thank you for being here.

Thank you.

Anything else you want to promote?

You know what?

I just found out what my TikTok handle was yesterday, and I still don't know what it is.

It's Sophia Franklin Zero.

Yeah, do you follow me back on TikTok?

Because I'm always seeing your TikToks.

Oh, my God.

I don't know if I'm not.

I mean, I think I do.

I think you should.

But I do put a lot of time and effort into my TikTok.

I do have someone help me with my TikTok.

Okay.

So you have to forgive me, but this was amazing.

Claudia, you're like the best.

I really, really want to come back.

Your TikTok is planning.

I'm on TikTok right now because I'm so bored.

Just kidding.

I really want to do it with Jackie.

I know, I know.

She'll probably be like back in the podcasting space in like one or two months, but let's give her, I don't know, maybe more, maybe less.

No, we're not, we're not.

We're not putting pressure on women.

No, we don't do that.

No.

Thank you guys so much for listening to The Morning Toast.

We're back tomorrow with our final episode of the week with Josh Peck.

And if you haven't read his book, we're going to be going really in-depth.

I'm about to finish it.

It's so good.

So pick it up on Amazon.

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