S5 Ep24: Fofia Yanklyn with Sofia Franklyn: Wednesday, February 9th, 2022

Good morning, millennials.

Welcome back to the morning toast.

Happy Wednesday.

Hi, everyone.

How are you doing?

Hey, Claude, how are you doing?

Hello, Jacqueline.

Happy hump day to you and your loved ones.

I am doing splendiferously.

I'm so tired.

Yesterday was the longest day of my life.

But I'm excited to be here because we have got a bang out,

drag out

episode.

What's the phrase?

I don't know what you're trying to say, but we do have a blockbuster episode for you today.

If we may just walk you through it really quickly.

Obviously, we have the fast eyes stories, and you know what?

They are extremely varied, and I look forward to getting your take on them.

We're varied queens.

We are.

Then we'll be recapping Real House Eyes of New Jersey.

Another great episode from the ladies last night.

Can't freaking wait.

Also, I watched the first episode of Gilded Age yesterday.

I don't have enough to say to, but I'll put it in the TV segment because who the fuck cares?

Yeah.

Then you sat down yesterday with Sophia Franklin and conducted one of the best podcast interviews I've ever watched.

Like, you know how I've been like looking for podcast content to watch?

Well, your

interview with Sophia was like meant for me.

I was your target audience and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

I was cracking up.

The two of you are so funny.

There was so much good tea, information, lessons, wisdom being shared, spilled, and I just enjoyed it so much.

I'm so excited for everyone to hear it.

Well, let me tell, oh, getting emotional.

Emotional.

Let me tell you that I don't think I've ever been like so taken by someone's presence in my life.

I had never met Sophia before.

Obviously, like I've DM'd and texted with her a bunch, but never met in person.

And she is, first of all, she's gorgeous, but she's just like this.

She really is that girl.

Like she's just so, she has this great presence about her.

We were, we were having like technical difficulties.

So for like 20 minutes, we just sat there and like talked and we were like tears in our eyes, hysterical laughing.

She's so funny.

And I think like no matter where you ended up, like on what side of the call her daddy divorce,

you should listen to the episode because I think her POV, and honestly, I didn't want to get so much into Call Her Daddy.

I didn't want her to.

feel uncomfortable, but she was really open.

So I just let her say her piece.

I wasn't really planning on going that deep, but she was open.

And there's some good tea in there, obviously, but also, I don't know, I just think, don't write Sophia off.

She's extremely funny.

Her point of view is super interesting.

She's been through a lot.

And I think you'll, I think you'll see things differently after the episode.

Or if anything, you'll just have an appreciation for someone who's really funny and who can laugh at herself.

And Fofia Yanklin.

Like it was just, it was really.

like an amazing experience.

And then I also podcasted with her for her podcast.

And I do believe that comes out today.

And there were some also juicy tidbits on there as well.

More content for me to consume.

I'm so excited.

And also I think you could say she's textbook everything of the sort.

I think those are the words you're looking for.

A hundred percent.

Like she was just sitting across from me like putting on her Charlotte Tilbury like nude lip liner and I was like, this is a girl like I want to be.

Like she's just fabulous.

Wow.

I'm wearing Charlotte Tilbury today too.

Me too.

It just wasn't the same.

It just doesn't look the same.

No, it was different.

Like she did it differently and it was so cool.

And I just, just, I felt like I was in high school, like with one of the popular girls.

Like

she was just so in person, like so radiant and so funny.

And I was like, I was like giddy when I left because I think she's thinking about moving back to New York and I just wanted to like get drinks, you know?

Yeah, that's the best feeling.

Also, speaking of getting drinks, it looks like you had a really interesting evening last night.

So let me just tell you about my day.

Share with the class.

Okay, tell us about your day.

I went to the studio to podcast with you, and we haven't been to the studio in months, and I just went through every package.

It was literally a warehouse.

So I was sweating like an animal.

We had mattresses, nutrition bars, like all these packages.

I was sweating like an animal.

Then I sat down and recorded Melissa Gorga's podcast, which was really fun, like a lot of Jersey tea.

And I think it comes out this week or next.

I'm not 100% sure.

Then Sophia got there.

We did our segment.

Then we did Sophia's segment.

I came home, got dressed, showered, and I went to a Torah class, you know, a little Tamar Judge Bible study moment,

which I haven't been to in a while.

I used to go to a lot before COVID, and it was really like an eye-opening experience.

I guess I didn't realize like I have,

I don't know what it was, but like it, it was an eye-opening experience because I realized I think I've been very disconnected from my faith.

Like I was just like, I was sitting at the Torah class and it all felt so far and when I used to do this so frequently and I felt like guilty.

And actually the Torah class was really perfect for me because, and I just wanted to share, I think it's, it's obviously a Jewish class, but there was like the overall message that I think is nice for whatever religion you are.

She was basically saying like

Judaism, or you can apply it to whatever religion you are, like faith is like an inheritance.

There's four kids, the dad leaves them $10 million each.

And even if there's one kid who has a lot of money already, he's still entitled to that $10 million

just as much as the person who's not the most well-off.

And it's like your faith is an inheritance.

Like even if you have an abundance of it, like you always want more.

And even if you are not like

the most involved and spiritual, you've been like, you're still entitled.

We are all children of God.

Like we're all entitled to that inheritance.

And no matter what spectrum of the religious scale you are, like we are all God's people.

And I was just like feeling guilty because like I never go to the Torah classes.

And she was like speaking directly to my soul.

That's Claudia.

That's so beautiful.

Thank you for sharing that little tidbit.

Yeah, I think that I think that especially in COVID, a lot of people have felt like disconnected from faith.

I mean, on a very technical level, like not being able to go to a house of

a church, to a Torah class.

So I'm glad that you reconnected.

It sounded like you had a very balanced day, you know, podcast, podcast, podcast, Torah, Tyler C.

Yes, so then I went over to Tyler C's apartment

and I had to like skedaddle out of the Torah class just a little early.

And they're like, where are you going?

I'm like, I have to go to my boyfriend's apartment.

Sorry.

And he's on this new TV show called The Real Dirty Dancing.

And I watched last week, and then this week's episode, he invited a couple people over to watch, and it was really fun.

And he's so good on the show, and he's like, so proud of it.

And everyone should watch.

It's a really cute show.

And then we just like hung out, ate pizza, and I was just like one of Tyler's girls, you know?

That's so cute.

You know what's such a random coincidence?

This always happens to me on my Time Hop, but I was on Time Hop.

And two years ago today, we went to Tyler C.

No, two years ago yesterday, we went to Tyler C's apartment for that party that time.

Isn't that so weird?

You were there on the same day.

You on the same day.

You were there on the same day, two years apart.

No, that's, it's my Tyler anniversary.

That's beautiful.

Do you think Tyler C is the person who wrote in about having a threesome

with you and Ben?

With me and Ben?

It's possible.

I don't want to, you know, we really take pride in our Dear Toaster segment being completely anonymous, so I don't want to out anyone, but it's entirely possible.

Yeah, I agree.

Well, I'm so glad that you had such a well-rounded day, really, and that we get the fruits of your labor, all this content, content.

Preggio,

thanks for asking.

My day was the same as usual.

Actually, not really.

I skipped over my nap because I thought it would enable me to go to bed earlier.

And I was like, that sounds like a nice idea.

So I got into bed at 10:30.

And of course, I was up till one still.

But I did go to the doctor yesterday.

I have another appointment today.

And we got to see like the sonogram stuff, but baby was hiding.

We didn't, honestly, we didn't see shit.

And I was so fucking tired.

I'm shy.

This is the baby.

I'm shy.

And I was so tired that I was like closing my eyes on the table.

I was like, there was nothing to see here by Kevin Wilson.

Okay.

Literally.

Just in, it was then quiet.

Then I spoke to you.

Then I watched your interview with Sophia, which was really the highlight of my day.

Then I watched Gilded Age.

The Houses of New Jersey.

Usual business.

Nothing to reply.

I watched New Jersey also.

We'll talk about it in the TV recap.

I actually watched the interview with Sophia when I got home yesterday, like to relive it.

And then I watched it again this morning.

I'm like obsessed with it.

Well, if you're listening as a podcast, it'll be at the end of this episode.

And if you're watching on YouTube, it will already be up on YouTube like before this video goes up.

So hopefully you will have already treated yourself to it.

Yeah, it's a real treat.

It's a sweet treat.

A sweet treat.

So I think without further ado, did it, did it, do, where are you?

Where is Dew?

I've heard he's out of the house.

No, he's home.

He's scratching at my door.

Um, he wants to come inside with mom, but mom's busy.

Damn.

So, I guess without further ado, did it, do, to do at the door, it is time for the fast five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast.

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Now, I did want to say one thing.

I apologize for what's going on behind me.

It is Wednesday.

Everyone knows that's the day I do my laundry.

And I just want to let you know, Theo has entered the building, so we can officially get started.

We can officially get started.

I saw that behind you.

It's the changing of the sheets.

Very exciting.

It's the changing of the guards.

Exactly.

Okay, let's get into the the stories.

Every time you cough or choke, I'm like, it's time.

Call Zach.

Oh, my God.

I called Margo today because I had something so juicy to tell her that I'll tell you afterwards.

And she didn't pick up.

And I'm like, if you don't call me back right now, and she goes, Jackie's in labor.

Oh, my God.

You would be hearing it from me.

No, I would be hearing it the same way you do.

Totally.

Actually, if we were like on the toast, you might have, you know, a fast track to knowing, but it's the same thing here.

Like every time I'm like, Zach, like asking for like you know him to bring me a glass of water he's like

he's like you can't and literally he'll come in to the like or he'll be in the other room and i'm like uh like just sighing just a general male as one does and he's like you can't do that i'm like i can't do what it speaks breathe breathe literal breathe i just want to say if lc is a true content creator he would know the timing for him to come would be on the podcast because literally that would be so meta, so everything.

Like, I just think it's something else he should think about.

If my water broke during the podcast.

So sickening.

So sickening.

But depending on like when your water breaks and such,

we could keep podcasting because I have time.

Like, you do have a lot of time before you need to go to the hospital.

Would you ever?

Imminent.

It would depend where we're at in the show because then also I need to get the episode up.

Like I'm going to sit here and work.

Right, right, right.

Oh my God.

That's, that's like, I remember when I was a kid, I think the first like labor on reality TV I saw was Courting Kardashian's first birth and her water breaks.

We're used to seeing the movies, oh, get the bag, get the car, yeah, and she takes a shower and blows out her hair.

I'm like, this bitch is crazy, but that's actually what happens.

That's actually what happens.

You spend a good amount of time at home, you see how far apart your attractions, your contractions are once they get to a certain point, you go to the hospital.

So

there's a chance if we were podcasting, I would just sit here in my, in my amniotic amniotic fluid

and keep

literally

and we'd have contractions with you, like right?

Like,

yeah,

that's not a contraction.

I think the labor contractions are like doubled over in pain for about one minute, and then you get a few minutes off.

Yeah,

that sounds horrible.

Godspeed.

Godspeed.

Thank you.

Well, let's get into the stories.

Our first story, some hosting news.

Sherry Shepard will be named the permanent guest host of the Wendy Williams Show.

Sherry Shepard is set to be named the permanent guest host of The Wendy Williams Show following her health hiatus in September 2021.

Beginning in September 2022, the former View co-host will take over the series regularly.

However, one source tells Page 6 that the move will not be forever.

TMZ reports that producers will monitor Wendy's progress between now and September, which is when they would premiere the show's 15th season.

If Wendy is healthy enough to host by then, she'll be welcomed back with open arms.

If not, Sherry will take over and producers will consider a name change for the the talk show.

Wow.

Well, obviously, it's not going to be Sherry on the Wendy show,

but I have to say, they've been having a large, like a huge rotation of people.

I know Michael Rappaport, Heather McDonald, Jerry O'Connell.

Also, did you see Heather McDonald posting a video of her faint?

Oh, okay.

She's such an icon.

Okay.

So they had a lot of Leah Remini.

I saw a very funny segment that she did.

So I think Sherry Shepard is great.

She obviously has a ton of hosting experience.

She was on the View.

And she's also just like

an American icon, honestly.

So I think it's a great selection, but I am confused.

I just feel like we've been in this limbo with Wendy for so long.

And I do feel like it's time

to just like move on.

Like this, they're like, she's a permanent host, but it's temporary.

We'll reassess it in November.

Like, which is it?

No, she's the permanent guest host.

Right.

Like, it's just confusing.

I agree that it's confusing, but I'm sure, you know, they, I'm sure they're reticent to change the entire show, considering it's been been such a success.

People love Wendy.

And even if this is like a slow, you know, ultimately

it will no longer be the Wendy Williams show.

I think they probably want to ease the audience into it as opposed to just being like, Wendy's over.

Here's your new show, you know, and I think they want to just retain that audience.

So making the changes incremental

might be.

easier for the audience to digest.

Yeah, I mean, I do have a feeling my gut is just saying Wendy will not return.

And I do feel like it's the end of an era.

Like she is, there's no show.

She's not like other hosts.

There's really no show like Wendy.

Like she's incredibly unfiltered, borderline offensive sometimes, but like it's refreshing because everyone is not like that.

So she, if she, if this is the end of her show career, I do feel like she will be missed and there will be like a huge gap in the market.

And whoever comes in will be great.

But there is no one like Wendy, honestly.

Love her or hate her.

Like you have to acknowledge she's not like other hosts.

No, and it's so hard to have continued success in this space.

So whatever she's been doing, she's obviously doing something right.

And it definitely signals the end of an era, though.

I do think Sherry Shepard will do a great job.

Me too.

I just, I also feel like we haven't gotten like a really

like good understanding of what Wendy's going through.

So I just want to wish her well, you know, but I am confused.

Yes, I agree.

And I hope that she takes the time that she needs.

And even when she does start feeling better, that doesn't necessarily mean like you should go back to working five.

Like it's a taxing job mentally, physically, emotionally.

And sometimes you just need to be not working.

Agreed.

And I'm sure whatever she's going through, like the stress of being a daytime host was not helping.

Yeah, for sure.

Wishing her the best, truly.

Truly.

Okay, our next story shared James.

Something that you just mentioned.

I'm just going to scoot it on up to the top.

The stories are kind of out of order today.

There's no like, usually I try to

have them like make a bit of sense, but they don't make sense today.

The, the, the chronology.

Heather McDonald posted a video.

Don't need, don't explain yourself.

You are an artist, and what you do is beautiful and important.

And I don't really feel like you have to explain yourself, honestly.

Thank you, Claudia.

But Heather McDonald is posting the video of herself on

her onstage faint that resulted in a skull fracture.

So over the weekend,

wait, Jackie.

This story actually should have been slated behind the wendy story because the video of heather fainting reminded me so much of the video of wendy williams fainting they're identical yes oh my god watching someone faint is shocking

I hate it.

Oh my gosh.

Heather McDonald's shared video footage of her fainting spell that took place on stage over the weekend in Tempe, Arizona.

The comedian fell after taking the stage for a stand-up set on Saturday night and was later admitted to the hospital with a skull fracture.

On Tuesday, she shared a clip of the moment along with the jokes that preceded it about how she's been COVID vaccinated, she has the flu shot, she has the shingle shot, and how Jesus loves her.

And then she fainted.

Okay, Heather's such an icon, first of all, like the fact that she posted this video because it's not like a super flattering video.

Like it's, and she could have.

It's not like this was being aired.

Like with the Wendy video, that video just got shared and shared because it happened on air.

This is a video that the comedy club recorded.

A lot of clubs can record your show for you, which as a comedian is really helpful to re-watch the show over.

And so she didn't have to share this with us.

She didn't, but she did.

And that's why she's an icon.

I think the last thing she says being Jesus loves me, it's like you actually can't write comedy that good, honestly.

She said, clearly, Jesus loves me the most.

Seriously.

And then, and I think the audience, they didn't realize at first.

They didn't move.

They didn't move.

They didn't flinch because they thought it was part of this bit because it all like together is comical a bit serious it's scary and serious but if you're sitting in a comedy club like you would probably would imagine it's part of the bit

so literally like I watch a video a couple times over and I'm watching different people in the audience and nobody moved a muscle like not a flinch oh my god and first of all you can see really where she fractures her skull she goes down hard on her the back of her head and she must be in a lot of pain.

So, like, wishing her like a speedy recovery.

That's, and I think for whatever type of performer you are, like, you always get nervous.

Like, I always think, like, what if I have diarrhea on stage?

Like, my stomach starts to hurt, and I get like sweaty Sean Mendez vibes, you know?

That's my personal, but I think a lot of people think, like, what if I faint?

And I always say, like, if I go on and like, I can't remember what I'm about to say, like, one of these days, I'm just going to fake faint.

So just know if you come to my show and I faint, like, it's fraudulent, just like me.

Stop.

Then they'll be playing this clip when you really do faint.

And then this will be be another ironic moment.

So take that back.

I've never fainted.

I take it back.

Sorry, I do take it back.

I would actually never fake faint.

That's disgusting.

You also wouldn't be good at fake fainting because you wouldn't commit to the fall.

You would like, you know, buffer your head or something.

Yeah.

And we would all know.

We would.

No, it's true.

Cause like in order for it to be like a real faint, like every muscle in your body, like everything just shuts down.

Like, you're completely limb.

Yeah, you wouldn't be able to commit to that.

Limp, limp, limb.

Limbs are limp.

Yeah.

Have you fainted once in high school, right?

I do believe that caught you.

Yeah, because I donated blood and I was just too small and I shouldn't have.

I literally, you guys, I'll never forget.

I'm on the third floor walking by the elevator.

Jackie's walking this way, like towards me.

What great timing that we just happened to be near one another.

She donated blood and she all looks so good.

She's like a little, she's a little green and she's like wobbling.

And I'm like, hey, sis, you good?

Boom.

Falls on the floor.

Our history teacher, Dr.

Deutsch, came and picked you up.

And then you threw up on him.

No.

So what happened was, so then they came picked me up and they put me in a wheelchair just to like move me around.

And the nurse, like, I'm sorry, this is just like some trauma, gave me a bag to throw up in.

And so I was sitting in the wheelchair.

I threw up in the bag and the bag didn't have a fucking bottom.

It had a huge hole.

It was a bottomless bag.

I threw up all over my lap.

Disgusting.

Disgusting.

It was like, and everyone in the school was buzzing about it.

Oh my God, it was like in between.

It's drama.

It was in between classes.

Everyone was like flooding out and there

she was.

And I mean, I tried to do a good deed.

Obviously, I haven't donated blood since.

I'm clearly not a candidate.

No, you're not equipped.

But is that the only time you fainted?

Yes, that's the only time I fainted.

It's one of my biggest fears.

Like it looks so scary.

It's one of my biggest fears.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Especially, I mean, for Heather.

And obviously she's joking about it and she's back on her podcast.

So I'm sure she's doing okay, but still like a very scary situation.

So scary, but she's like a, she's really like such a seasoned comedian that she can make a joke out of this.

Cause like.

Some people might feel embarrassed by it.

Some people might not want to show the video.

And she's just like an icon and a legend.

She's a podcaster.

She knows the importance of sharing content with her audience.

And I just have so much respect for Heather McDonald always, but today in particular.

Agreed completely.

Okay, our next story is really funny.

It's a story for you.

French Montana can't believe that he once met the Tinder swindler, and he has the photo to prove it.

So French Montana posted a selfie of him and Simon Levov, aka the Tinder swindler.

Levayev.

Levayev, get it right.

Don't get it right.

And actually, that's not even his real name.

And I think it's actually really disrespectful that this article is using using his real name.

His name is Shimon Hayut.

Okay, so he posted a picture with

Shimon Hayut while he was pretending to be Simon Levov.

And he was so surprised that he's rubbed elbows with the frogster.

I guess he's been watching the documentary also.

And he found the picture and said, I can't believe I met the swindler laughing emoji.

Okay, I have so many questions about this.

One, because it appears as though they're on a commercial flight.

And we all know Simon Levaev never flew commercial.

Two, this picture just was posted and taken so out of context.

I think a lot of people were like, oh my god, they're together right now.

I actually didn't realize until this moment that this was like an old picture that that French Montana like found.

Yeah.

Because Simon is back.

He's was he's out of prison.

He's flying on jets again.

Nobody knows what he does for a living.

He's got all these beautiful women around him.

So I thought this was something happening now, but I guess it's not.

No, I guess it's not.

But it's so funny because I feel like oftentimes with these schemes and fraudsters, they taught, they taught these like celebrity connections while they're doing their scheme.

And of course like the celebrities are like shudder to think like, I don't fucking know this person.

How did my name get and tingles with them?

And like to then imagine being French Montana and like watching, he probably watched this documentary and then like saw that he's actually met this person and leaning into it is so funny as opposed to like pretending, you know.

like it didn't happen.

Yeah, every once in a while we're watching like a documentary and some celebrity makes their way in there.

I I forget what I was just watching.

And I think it was Gwyneth Paltra was in it.

Like, it was like her cousin.

They did, oh, oh, oh, WeWork.

We work.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

They did an interview.

The wife was like this wellness freak.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So every now and then it comes up and it's so funny.

And you're right.

Like seeing French lean into it is fun.

And this just further, you know, cements why I have like a special place in my heart for French Montana always and forever.

Yeah, that is really funny.

You saw that they're making a movie about WeWork, like a real, it's with Anne Hathaway is playing the wife, and I forget who's playing Adam, but.

I mean, if I remember correctly, when we watched the documentary and then recapped it, I do believe the overall message was like, is this a story worth telling?

And now it's a story being told again.

So, I mean, I'll watch it, of course, but I don't know.

I just didn't think it was like that crazy of a documentary.

I agree.

I didn't think it was that crazy of a story.

But that's just me.

I have a high bar because I watch Locked Up Abroad, you know?

Yeah, they should make that into a movie.

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She's going to be knitting.

She's going to be knitting.

Because Amy Schneider has quit her day job after her historic Jeopardy run.

So the Jeopardy champ announced on Tuesday that she recently quit her day job as software engineering manager following her historic run on the game show, where she netted about $1.4 million.

She said, some of you may have heard, but I quit my day job yesterday.

It's a bit nerve-wracking to pivot from software engineer to public figure, I guess.

But regardless of the outcome, I'm so excited to spend the next couple of years at least tackling this new challenge.

Yeah, of course.

I mean, even if, so she won like, I think over a million dollars after taxes.

1.382.

So after taxes, it's like 700 grand.

That's a lot of money.

You can definitely live off of that.

But also, people are obsessed with her.

She's like a trans icon now.

She's a scholarly queen.

There's a myriad of opportunities.

She also probably has a pretty good following on social media.

And she's big in the academic space.

So if not, if not now, like she can always go back to her job if she wants to or a software job.

But like, why not take the bull by the horns, keep going, you know, off the momentum and see what you could do with your life, Amy.

Get it, girl.

I support this.

I don't know.

I kind of had the opposite take.

What?

Like, yeah.

I just, I, I mean, I guess I don't follow her on social media, so I don't know like what she's doing and like how she's popping off, but the idea that like she's like so smart, she has this like big job and now she's gonna quit and become an influencer.

Like, it just makes you sad.

By the way, that's not what she's gonna do.

She's not becoming an influencer.

What is she doing?

She's definitely, um,

she's just gonna be like a Ken Jennings in a sense.

Like,

I don't know exactly what she's gonna do, but she's not gonna be selling FatFit fun boxes.

She's like a well-respected woman in science and woman in academia, and she'll do

because of jeopardy.

Because of jeopardy, yes, yes.

Okay, I don't know.

I just do speaking, motivational speaking.

She's going to definitely work with the LGBTQ plus community.

I think that it's not what you think it is.

It's going to be, it's going to be huge.

I don't know if it's going to be huge, but I also, I don't really know.

I just feel like maybe she could have taken a sabbatical just to like ride this wave.

I don't know how far this wave will take her.

Even thinking about Ken Jennings, like, did he wind up getting the job?

He's still in the rotation of people.

So like, what does he do all the other days of the week?

There's stuff out there.

It's not stuff we're familiar with because we're not scholars, but there's, you could be famous in academic circles.

I'm sure, I know that's possible.

I just don't know anyone who is.

And it pays the bills.

Of course, merits, scholars, you know, things like that.

Okay.

I mean, I just, to me, it's like if she has this job that she's liked for a very long time, and then she gets this cushion of $1.3 million after taxes and, you know, fees and everything.

That's like a nice, that's just a great, a nice set of jobs.

Life becomes a little more clear.

One person's, that's one, that's how one person could do it.

But she took the nation by storm.

And I think she's really becoming, I think she's like a huge inspiration in the gay community.

Like, I think that there's so much she could do.

And yes, she could, you know, have a simple, wonderful life with her millions.

Or she could get after it.

Take those opportunities.

Wouldn't you?

I don't know what the opportunities are, so I can't say.

Me neither, but I know they're out there, okay?

Okay, I just like, I don't know.

I, it's just crazy.

Everyone just wants to be an influencer, you know?

No, I wouldn't, don't put Amy down like that.

That's not what she's doing.

Okay.

I hope I'm proven wrong, really.

You know what?

I really, like, I don't know what, what the opportunities are, but like, I know that there are.

Like, she's going to do like college commencements.

Like, I just know it.

Just because she won Jeopardy?

Jackie, she didn't win Jeopardy.

She is the second highest ranked Jeopardy winner.

She, I'm sure, has a myriad of stories to tell, things she's been through.

She could write a book.

She could write a book.

You know, I mean, I need to see.

Just because

maybe you're not like the target demo because you don't watch Jeopardy, like, doesn't mean she's an inspiration to a lot of people.

I need to do it.

She does motivational speaking.

What

Ken Jennings does with his time?

Motivational speaking, for sure.

For sure.

What does Ken Jennings do with his time?

Look it up.

It's a hard question to find out.

Let me see.

Personal life.

No, career.

I, I,

okay, career.

Outside Jeopardy.

Okay, so it says other game show appearances, American Crossword puzzle tournament, connect connections.

I guess that's like his own show, connections.

Um, to say trivia emails, controversial tweets, omnibus podcast, and Washington State Honor.

Oh, she could start a podcast.

She could start a podcast

where she's talking about all things, you know, scholarly.

Yeah, no, no, there's a big

market for scholars.

We're not look at ours.

We're not academics, so like I don't really know like what she could do, but I'm telling you, there's something.

Okay, I hope that you're right and that I'm wrong.

I think I am, and I think that never happens, but I think this might be one of the few times where I'm right and you're wrong.

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Wishing you the best, Amy Schneider, on your influencing journey.

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I liked it a lot.

It was kind of stunning.

Our fifth and final story: I have to get your take on this because

NBC Sports is responding to Leslie Jones, who was taking herself out of the Olympics commentary running.

Apparently, it was, she said, I'm starting to feel like this should be my last Olympics that I live tweet.

I know another celebrity bitching, but I'm tired of fighting the folks who don't want me to do it.

They block my videos and they get folks who think they can do it like me.

And I'm tired of fighting them.

I love the athletes and they love me doing it.

And I know y'all love it, but now it's just gotten too hard and no one is fighting for or with me.

So I guess I'll leave it to the professionals, but thank you for the love.

And NBC responded saying that it was an error that led to her belief that they didn't want her doing this.

They said.

This was the result of a third-party error and the situation has been resolved.

She is free to do her social media posts as she has done in the past.

She's a super fan of the Olympics and we are super fans of her.

This rubs me the wrong way.

I saw that, I saw that Leslie posted that and it wasn't that I didn't believe her, but I'm like, I'm like, how are they blocking you?

Like, I just didn't understand.

And now look at NBC fully validating her story, corroborating.

And I'm sorry I doubted you, Leslie.

You're a hero and an icon, an American woman who deserves freedom of platform.

And I support.

Agreed.

Now that I think about it, what was probably happening is if she was filming the TV and commentating, then maybe she was getting like, they were taking them down for copyright.

And that's obviously frustrating for her when she's trying to speak on the situation, but she should obviously be like whitelisted into being able to do this.

Obviously.

And also, I just think NBC should like make this official.

Like they're so dumb.

Also, like the Winter Olympics are struggling majorly.

Like no one cares.

Even me, I'm like such an Olympic freak.

And you know, you could use your mute to cough, just letting you know because I do that sometimes.

Oh, yeah.

Like there's a mute.

No, it's really not.

I didn't know it was going to be that big of a cough.

Okay.

But even if it's a small cough, like you should always just press mute because that's this new interface we're using.

It's like one of my favorite, because I could go like this, ready?

I just sniffled and nobody heard.

Did you hear?

Okay.

I think people wanted to hear me cough.

No, I don't think that they do, but I just don't understand why NBC is like not actually using Leslie as an asset.

She is an asset.

People are obsessed.

People are watching the same amount of people are tuning into her Instagram stories and her TikToks than are tuning into the Olympics.

I don't know why nobody's watching the Olympics.

Even me.

Like, I can't be bothered.

Yeah.

I think that it's one, you know, the plight of the winter games.

It's just, they're not the summer games.

There's a lot of controversy.

There's just a lot of different things, stories coming out, weirdness, you know, quarantine food.

It's bad.

It's bad.

It's upsetting for an hypophile like myself, but I have no desire to watch.

Even when we like shared last week about the opening ceremony, I was like expecting that I would get into it.

I haven't turned it on.

At this point, I won't be turning it on.

It's extremely weird.

The whole situation is very weird.

Yeah, I turn it on every day, and I cannot stay off my phone.

Like, I cannot focus on any of these activities.

Yeah.

So, at least, like, they should be thanking Leslie Jones for like bringing some relevancy to this extremely bizarre time and broadcast.

And they should really take her on in an official capacity.

Like, she's fucking hilarious.

Of course, of course.

There's no reason.

Didn't they bring her to

Rio?

I hope so.

But that was like six years ago now.

And she's still doing it.

She's so funny.

She's one of my favorite people to follow on TikTok, Les Dog.

Like, come on.

Yeah, but I'm glad they're working it out, but it's still like, you shouldn't have to make it so difficult for her when at the end of the day, she's doing you a favor.

Literally bringing eyeballs to your like training.

It's like a relevant program.

A relevant program.

No disrespect to the athletes because you guys are gorgeous, beautiful, study, and smart.

It's the programming.

It's the marketing.

Like, it's just not working.

No disrespect to the athletes.

That's what hurts to like have worked your whole life and then then to go.

And it one, it feels like nobody cares, but I'm sure there's enough people that like care and their sponsors and they're like doing all of the things that they typically do.

But also, I think, as an Olympian, like it's not a premium experience over there.

Have you seen the food that they're getting?

But by the way, like, have you seen the food?

I haven't seen the food, but there's always like complaints about like the Olympic village and the cardboard beds.

Where was the last Summer Olympics, like just recently?

Uh,

where the fuck were they?

We were just watching.

Um,

Tokyo they were in

Tokyo, yes

There was all these TikToks.

They were literally sleeping on cardboard beds.

There's always stuff like that, so I don't think that's what's like the core of this problem.

I can't put my finger on what it is, but I don't think it's that.

I think we know what it is, but um

like we don't want this video taken down what

there's just a lot of like political issues.

Oh in China, you're saying yeah, yeah, I just feel like there's not, I'm not feeling the Olympic spirit.

No, not feeling the Olympic spirit, but I am hoping that the athletes, you know, get their shine.

Yeah.

And as someone who has that spirit running through her blood, it's

very upsetting.

Yes.

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Very complex.

You could see how I had a difficult time ordering them.

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No, it's true, but you know, you did a great job because you're a great girl.

Thank you.

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So I thought last night's jersey was really interesting.

For me, there's two things going on.

The first is like the Gia Melissa Teresa Joe, and then obviously the Jennifer Aiden drama.

Let's start with the first because I feel like, you know, Italian culture is actually, and I talked about this on Melissa Gorga's podcast, so sorry if you're hearing this for the second time, but Italian culture is actually really similar to like Jewish culture in the sense where like you have ultimate respect for your elders.

And like, I'm sure for Joe, like to hear Gia come at him like that, she was being like a little disrespectful.

She's justified in her feelings, but I understand why it got to like this chaotic place because he's like, what the fuck is going on?

Like that just doesn't happen in Italian families, right?

Yeah.

If this was a conversation between like, say,

Teresa and Joe, he would have been more receptive to the way she was talking to him.

But from the way that Gia approached him from the jump, he was not going to be entertained, not going to entertain being spoken to like that.

And I have to be honest, in that regard, I do agree.

I felt like when they were like all fighting in the driveway, like he wouldn't let her like say her piece because he just like was so blinded by the disrespect.

But I think for him, like, it's blinding.

And you also have to think, like, given the context, like, I know that Joe is Gia's dad.

I do, and I respect that.

But I don't even think she can get into the headspace of Joe Gorga, like all that he did for those kids when Joe was put away.

And then also the things like he made personal sacrifices, like, you know, his parents being so stressed out.

Like, I totally understand.

And it must be hard to hear.

Like, it's like Gia doesn't even want to acknowledge like the bad shit her dad did.

And it's like, I understand wanting to see your parents in like a positive light, but like, you also can be delusional.

Like, he literally put your mom in prison and he took years away from your mom spending time with her parents.

Yeah.

no, I think Joe Gorga is totally justified in his like

anger towards Joe Judice.

I don't think they'll ever, you know, squash it.

I don't think they ever could because like of what was lost, what can never be brought back.

Like, as Joe Gorga would say, he put his parents in an early grade and, you know, he sent his sister to prison.

Like, this is, these are real things.

And everyone's like, it was five years ago.

Like, does that ever become fine?

No.

Right.

So I understand that Joe Gorga will never get over it.

I don't even think that he necessarily should get over it.

It's just going to always be this wedge between him and Gia.

And like, you can feel how much he loves Gia and he doesn't want there to be a wedge.

So I think he would rather like bring, like, air it out, bring light to it.

But she can't hear the truth.

It's too painful for her.

And I also have to respect that because she has been through so much.

And like she experienced it, you know.

just as alongside with everyone in a really like at a very vulnerable and pivotal time in her life.

So like everybody's entitled to how they feel here.

And typically the way to resolve things is to talk it out, but talking about it is like making it worse.

And so I don't know what they should do.

You know, I also really feel for Melissa because you can, you can sense how much she's trying to like deflate and just minimize the situation because like they like if if if Joe and Melissa like actually told Teresa, like they swallow so much.

If they actually told her every time she, but like they, they would be back where they were 10 years ago.

And Melissa, I I think, is so afraid of being back in that place that she swallows everything.

And like this situation is like blowing up right in front of her.

And she's like, she's not taking Gia's side, but she's trying to like comfort Gia because they're so close.

Every fight they have, they're minutes away from being back to the place with the christening.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And she doesn't want that.

It was a terrible time for Melissa.

Yeah, I agree.

And then I also feel like Teresa doesn't do anything to help the situation either.

She's just like standing there watching when it's like, this should be Teresa's fight.

I mean, I guess Teresa couldn't go to Joe and be like, stop talking shit about like my girl's father because it makes him up.

Joe is defending Teresa.

Joe's defending Teresa here.

Right.

And you know how she loves to be defended.

That's why we got to get Joe Judice back in the States for one last hurrah between Joe and Joe.

I'm not even interested.

Joe on Joe.

We are going to settle this.

So the other part of the episode, which was super interesting, was this event at Dolores's.

I just love Dolores.

You know why?

Because I get so frustrated with her because she's like weirdly team Jennifer and Teresa.

And when the three of them are sitting at that birthday party, unable to see their own hypocrisy, I was like, you guys are delusional.

Like literally, Teresa is literally, Teresa did something worse.

Teresa had no reason to go after Jackie and she made it up.

Margaret has a million reasons to go after Jennifer and it's true.

So like the fact that they can't see like how far up they are Teresa's ass, I was like so disappointed in Dolores.

But then then seeing her go out with Margaret and like get all the facts, I was like,

I had some of my faith restored in Dolores because she's so,

she's so like ethical.

Like she's so

wise and she's

principled.

But she's always like using her principles in the wrong way.

Yeah, I agree.

I'm just glad to see her like come to the other side because it is, it's hard.

Watching, ultimately, I am team Margaret because like Jennifer doesn't just get to go around and say the things that she does.

There are some caveats and I like, I think Jennifer made a good point where it's like with Margaret, everything that Jennifer has like judged Margaret for are things that Margaret has shared.

So you're taking something from the private and then judging me for that.

But again, when you push and push and push someone, like they're going to come back swinging.

And that's just how it is.

So I.

Generally, like I feel like Margaret was justified in being like, let's fucking shut this shit down.

And why is it after every reunion, like Jennifer, and at the reunions, like Jennifer just like goes scorched earth on all these women, and then it's it's episode one, and she has to like come with her tail between her legs.

Like, why does she keep putting herself in this fucking position?

Anyways, but I do feel Jennifer that, like, now this is out there, her kids are going to know, and it's a different situation, like Jackie said, because at the end of the day, Jackie gets to tell her kids, like, this is a rumor.

And Jennifer is going to have to tell her kids, like, this is what your dad did.

And that's, that's really hard.

And I have compassion for her,

but of course,

sometimes you need to learn things the hard way and to not push other people.

Like, it's the epitome of people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

And she's fucking throwing bricks for years now.

And you know what?

I've actually been enormously impressed with Jackie's behavior.

Like, I don't think I could be that big of a person, like, really wanting to help Jennifer.

And then, like, after all that she went over to her house and she's coddling her at Dolores' house.

And then she hears that Jennifer is like still going around to Serena and Tenafly, finding pictures of the girl Evan fucked.

Like, she's relentless and she still can't see why what's being done to her, they feel is justified.

She can't see that, even after all this.

And she's just like, I don't know.

I'm like, Jennifer, like, you're so big.

You love to like come after everyone and we come for you and you're crying and you have to go home.

Like, I'm like, really?

Everything she's shown us up until this point has been an act.

You're like, you can dish it out, but you can't take it.

And this rule that like you can only dish it out if it's false information.

Like, so what we're just just peddling

when she said that at the table and it's it's so crazy she's like rendering herself irrelevant because of how illogical she is to speak to and all of the women in their confessionals were like yeah we just don't even answer her whatever makes no fucking sense but it's like this is the star of the show and you can't even have a conversation with her it's so crazy like she if i were her would shut her mouth when it comes to everything about this because it's like everything that she says about it it's like, well, what about Jackie and Evan?

What about what you did to Evan?

What about what you did to Jackie?

Like, you can't say one thing about the situation without thinking about what she did there.

Like,

the opposite of principled.

Obviously.

And also, this new housewife coming in with like the worst take.

She was so irrelevant.

Then she had one interview scene and it's like defending Jennifer.

It's like, girl, that is not the right take.

Get the fuck out of here.

I don't know.

I think that if you came into a situation, and even though like Melissa and all her friends are saying, like, Jennifer's crazy, she's so mean.

She's done all this.

You come into the room, and this girl is sitting there crying and everyone's like, and her life, I could understand being like, this seems like a lot.

Well, you know what?

I actually did, though, think it was interesting some of the details we got about the affair, like her being nine months pregnant and giving birth the next day.

Like, that's horrible.

Horrible.

But I didn't realize it was 10 years ago.

I thought it was like in the last few years, like while they were doing the show sort of thing.

So it really is.

Yeah.

in the past and

and the way that jennifer handled it is like she totally acted like it didn't happen didn't tell her friends her family So now she's just like, her spot's being blown up a bit.

Yeah.

And if you have a spot that's like going to be blown up, you shouldn't be coming at everyone swinging so hard.

And I think for Margaret, it's like, you've judged me so hard for having had an affair when like the person that you love has had an affair too.

But I think other people are like, well, obviously Jennifer judges Margaret harshly because she's been the scorned woman in that situation.

But it's like, if you can, you know, move on swiftly with Bill.

And plus, like, at the end of the day, Margaret and Joe had, they, they're,

their relationships are different from an affair, but like they are completely OTP.

They've been together for so long.

Like, at what point is it just, you know,

these things, they do have there.

It's unfortunate, but they happen sometimes.

Yeah, like, I don't know if I mean, I can acknowledge that I'm extremely biased.

Like, I love Margaret with all my heart.

Like, I know her personally, but I just feel like it would frustrate me if I was Margaret that, like, nobody seems to give a shit.

Like, when they replay some of the stuff Jennifer said to her, like, your mother's a slut,

uh, you were asking to be sexually assaulted.

Like, I

would be annoyed that, like, none of the women are as enraged.

Like, I understand where Margaret's rage is coming from.

Like, it's not just the basic housewife bullshit that Jennifer has been saying.

Jennifer has been saying, like, some of the most horrific, demeaning things to Margaret for years.

So, how these women don't understand how annoyed Margaret is and Margaret wants revenge?

Like, I can understand that.

I'm a vengeful person.

I agree.

I think that there is a real double standard with the group and the women.

Like, they expect more from Margaret than they do from Jennifer or Teresa because they're really like, they do crazy and say crazy things.

And like, it's not held to the same standard as like when Margaret were to do something.

Or even like Jackie saying, if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck.

All of a sudden is the villain of the season.

Right.

That's the worst thing anyone could say to Teresa.

Just saying something that's true.

And

just alluding to the truth.

Or if you're you could control what your husband did, would he be, like, would you have gone to jail?

Truth.

Like, and that was like the biggest fucking deal.

Meanwhile, Jennifer and Teresa, I feel like they kind of ignore them.

And

they expect like the women shouldn't have their feelings so hurt by them.

But

it's apples and oranges.

I can't, these are all, we're all castmates.

Like, you're all.

adults.

It's not a leveled playing field.

Yeah, but it, but it should be more level.

Even like Teresa, I was even thinking last night about like the Teresa Danielle Staub pulling Margaret's hair thing.

Like if I'm Margaret, I'm never getting that.

I'm still thinking about that.

I'm never getting over that in my life.

Like we can have, we can go on vacation and we're keep it here, but we will never be anything closer or deeper than that.

Like that's a line crossed I will never forget.

Being a real housewife of New Jersey must be so frustrating because like you are not entitled to like it's just not it's not a fair game.

Like Teresa's just on this pedestal and she gets away with whatever and it's like, it's so annoying.

Yeah.

And Jennifer is kind of there too because season after season like she goes below the belt she like not everything she says and does like really adds up because she's very extreme but she keeps coming back on the show people love her i mean i really like jennifer but it's it's like if you want to have a fair fight you need to fight with one of your friends because no one else is gonna like you're it's apples and oranges.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So it was a pretty good episode.

It's actually a really good kickoff to the season.

I don't know where this new girl is going to fit in because she seems so irrelevant already, but let's give her some time.

Yeah, i i we need to get to know her on a personal level so i can see like where she slots in because she kind of seems like similar to jackie and melissa and i don't know what she what new stuff she brings to the table and there was another woman is she supposed to be i don't think so but she was cute she looked like uh they thought she was teresa

yeah she was cute she was cute i like dolores's new house i love dolores like i just wish dolores could really wield her power

it like good if and i know what dolores thinks like she's a smart person and if she could actually say what she thinks and, like, go against Teresa, like, it would be gorgeous.

But that would never happen.

No.

But that's also because she's a principled queen and she's been friends with Teresa long before this show.

And she's not just going to throw her under.

And I have so much respect for that.

Agreed.

Yeah.

And then what did you think about the Gilded Age?

Okay, so I only watched the first episode, but it was really long.

It's literally like watching a movie.

And so long.

I love the Gilded Age.

period.

Like I love that age, New York, that time.

It's everything of the sort.

So exciting.

And so I'm really excited about the show.

There were definitely elements of community theater, and that's also because of like the accents, you know, the way that they spoke back then.

Yes.

It's like we're watching, and it's like, why are you talking like that?

If you're speaking, it sounds like a British accent and you're speaking English.

So why are you talking from that?

So it's hard to watch.

And I think that

the Russell woman, I think that she is the biggest perpetrator of that.

And it comes off very the blonde one?

No, the one, New Money.

oh the mom yeah she's the worst like she's just so obnoxious like i can't yeah so i think that um her her acting gives a little bit of community theater and there were definitely times where sometimes it felt stilted in that way but i love the premise for the show and I had recent, it reminded me of this book that I read called The Social Graces because it's about Mrs.

Astor and

not Consuelo, Alva Vanderbilt.

And they reference the real people in the show.

Even like Mamie Fish is a real person.

And I think even that architect, I need to Google him.

The architect.

Who built their house?

Yeah, I think he's, let me just Google it really quickly.

I meant to do it last night.

I think he's a real architect and he like got into like a real

scandal.

So I'm sure I like wonder if that's part of the show.

Don't spoil it.

Don't spoil it.

He is a real architect.

Hold on.

Let me just make sure that it's the scandal.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Okay.

I was right.

So if they put like real real historical incidents into the show, like that's my favorite kind of anything, book, TV show, whatever.

So I'm here for the premise on all counts.

It definitely is going to take a minute to like warm up.

I am excited to watch the second episode.

Brew loved it.

Obviously, there's pumpkin, King Charles Cavalier.

Oh, yeah.

He felt extremely seen.

Any show that has a Cavalier, like I will watch until the final episode of the final season.

I totally agree.

But like you could tell, like whenever a dog barks or whatever, like, he's like, what was that?

Right.

But when he saw this dog, he sat up at the edge of the bed and just sat watching.

Like, it was on a different level.

Too cute.

So, if Brew likes it, I like it.

I'm excited for the second episode.

Hopefully, they find their groove more, but I think it has all the makings of something fabulous.

I agree that Cynthia Nixon is extremely distracting.

Distracting.

Like, she's on and just like that and the Gilded Age.

Like, I'm sorry, you can't at the same time.

You can't do both.

And, like, maybe there's an actor out there who is that talented and diverse that can do both at the same time.

It ain't Cynthia Nixon.

Yeah.

So

that's my critique, but I like her character, so it's fine.

Yes, me too.

And also, the show is like very anti-licious.

It's kind of like my perfect ideal show.

It's anti-licious.

Totally.

I had one more thing to say.

Shit.

Was it about the Gilded Age?

I don't know.

I watched not a lick of TV.

I was just so busy yesterday.

So that's it for me on the TV recap.

You did watch New Jersey.

Yes, that's it.

Shoot.

I forget what I was going to say if it was about Gilded Age.

Pregnancy brain.

So scrambled.

Oh.

Well, if that's all from you, that's all from us.

If you're listening to the brew, I think it was a brew ting.

Hold on.

Let me try.

Let me try first.

Pumpkin, the King Charles.

Oh, yes.

Oh, my gosh.

Okay, we got an Instagram comment yesterday yesterday that I found so interesting that I need to share with the class because when we were talking about Charles becoming King Charles,

someone explained why he's actually not going to be called King Charles.

And okay, here it is.

My British husband just chimed in to let us know that Prince Charles will not be called King Charles.

He'll be King George VII.

The past two King Charleses were horrible, so he doesn't want that line of succession.

And his middle name is George, so it works out fine.

Not fine for me, but I guess

it's a plan.

First of all, how are we going to transition to calling him George from Charles, first of all?

Second of all, like the fact that we're most likely going to be alive

during like a King George VII era, like that's giving 1776.

No, King George VII is not an icon.

He is not the moment.

And I think that, you know what?

And maybe if King Charles's in the past have been, you know, a bit mad.

If the shoe perfect, The shoe perfect.

And he could turn the term around.

I think, Charles, if you're watching, like, please don't do this.

Be true to yourself, your awful self.

I know, but you know, they've been doing for centuries where, like, when you do ascend to the throne, you do change your name for whatever reason.

But I like it better when they don't.

Victoria didn't.

Elizabeth didn't.

I agree.

The icons didn't.

I mean, I guess you'd have to be an icon to not change your name.

So maybe it's George After.

It's for the best.

I'm glad you remembered that.

Thank you for sharing.

Thank you.

I'm so glad that I did too.

So if you're listening as a podcast, keep listening for the interview with Sophia.

I really hope you guys enjoy it.

Let me know what you think.

She's, if you're a Sophia Stan, like you're going to love the episode.

And if you like didn't know, if you fell on the opposite side of the call her daddy drama, we can all be, we can all be civil.

And I think you'll really appreciate her perspective.

It's it's unique.

And I feel like she doesn't really talk about this a lot.

So I feel very privileged that she felt open and

and comfortable to talk about it because it's a very painful time for her.

So enjoy the interview.

If you want to watch it on YouTube, it's a totally separate video than today's episode.

It's on our channel.

And I'm so excited for you guys to hear it and let me know what you think.

And only let me know what you think if it's positive.

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Welcome back to the morning toast.

It is your host, Claudia with a C.

And I'm very excited to be sitting down with a highly requested guest, someone who I've actually never met until today, Sophia with an F.

Hi, Sophia.

How are you?

Hi, Claudia.

Thank you so much for that intro.

Of course.

It's Sophia with an F.

It's pronounced Sophia.

However, I did have a therapist one time

write, like reach out to me, or had her assistant reach out to me, and the letter was addressed to Fofia, F-O-P-H-I-A, after I said it's Sophia with an F, which is shocking.

When you announced your podcast, I think people were like quaking, ready to hear what your name was going to be.

And I like the name, like, I get it, obviously, because the traditional way is P-H-I-A.

But a lot of the feedback was Fofia.

And I want to know what you have to say to the critics.

I think if you were to look at where the PH came from, the F is like the original standard

way to spell it.

And the PH, like the PH doesn't fucking make sense.

I'm sorry.

Okay.

I mean, maybe in the U.S.

it does, but like outside of the New York Times.

But we're international girls.

We're international and like, you know, we have, we can think outside the box.

Yeah, we can.

So you're in New York.

Thank you for coming to the studio.

I'm very excited to meet you and podcast with you.

I know.

I feel like we're vibing already.

This studio is so cute.

And I'm just thinking about my little studio in my mom's basement right now, now and I'm fucking pissed.

So you are in Utah right?

You fled New York and you never came back.

Never.

And you're back now and what are you thinking like, what are you thinking for your life?

What a question.

Where do you want to be?

Because you really like left New York in a tizzy.

I would have done the exact same.

Yeah.

And you've been and being with family is the best.

Yeah.

I ended up staying in New York way, I mean, excuse me, in Utah way longer than I anticipated.

And I've had so many people ask me like why that is.

I really don't know.

I think it was just a mix of fleeing and needing to be with family, and then COVID.

Right.

And then I think once I was starting to get ready to come back to New York, I was also trying to launch my show and my business and my merch line and all of those things and building a team.

And they're based out of Utah.

And there were like a lot of different factors.

However,

I am 100% ready to come back now.

I was actually looking for apartments the other day, which is a full-time job and the worst thing ever.

So, I mean, once I get one, I get one.

See, people are like, why don't you just go back to New York?

It's like, have you ever tried to get a fucking apartment?

You try.

Yeah, it's impossible.

You don't just like go back to New York.

Do you have any sort of like PTSD when you come back here?

Zero.

Oh, good.

Which I find really interesting.

I have zero of it.

If anything, I think I feel better when I'm here.

That's good.

I guess because I used to call it home.

Yeah.

You know?

And you just feel like more in the action.

yeah and I I yeah it actually makes me feel better and I I think it makes me feel like oh I'm not running away from something right the way the way probably Utah makes me feel yeah because sometimes when I'm there I'm like you know what's so funny mm-hmm so when I got canceled majorly in 2018 I went to Utah

Shut up yes my whole family like we just fucking threw our shit in a suitcase and ran we rented a house and it was so nice to be like unplugged out of nature all that shit and so did you wait that is is so

hilarious.

Yes.

How long were you in Utah for?

What felt like an eternity, but I think it was probably two or three weeks.

Okay.

Yeah.

And like, were you on social media or anything like that?

I was trying really hard not to.

I was on way less, but I'm a curious person.

I just wanted to see what people were saying about me.

And it wasn't good.

Claudia, we have so many stories we could tell about like our cancer.

Councilloring.

No, I know.

And so my first question for you was really like, how are you doing?

Because like, I joke now about cancel culture, but like when I went through it, like it was so tough mentally.

Like, my mental health was in such a bad position, and it took so long for it to bounce back.

So, like, my first question for you was, like, really, how are you doing?

So, how long has it been since that happened?

Like, two years since COVID made it fly right by, yeah.

Um, so I would say I'm in, you know, a 90% better place, but I would be lying if I would sit here and say, like, I'm 100%

back to who I was completely, I mean, quote unquote, normal for me.

Um, I still, like, it still shows up in various ways, just kind of anxious.

So sometimes I'll like overthink what I'm going to say because I'm like so scared of getting canceled again.

Do you have that?

Yeah, obviously.

And you know what?

As someone who's a little further out than you, I do want to let you know, like it never goes away.

Oh, great.

But it does get better.

And in the end, like, you're going to see it.

And you might even be in this place already where when it was happening, you're like, oh, this is the worst thing that could ever happen to me.

Like, what the fuck is going on?

But then years later, you really realize the value that came out of it.

it like for me i there were so many people in my life who were like so fraudulent and like weren't here for me and they they cut me out i was like you know what you did me such a blessing because i'd never want to be your friend if i was going through a hard time and you just bounced yep i grew up a lot like how old were you when the whole thing happened um i'm 29 now so i was about 26 27.

i was 23 and like it i just wasn't prepared you know right so it helped me grow up a lot there are good things and also it helped me take control of my business financially i was much better off afterwards but there are good things that come out of it yeah and so you're so you haven't come fully out of it yet no there's trauma you never will though there's trauma yeah it's like it's just a part of who you are now right right um i i think that's true i think it's one of those things that like i can heal from it but there will always be it will always be like a part and part of my story yeah um i guess the difference is like when i got canceled it was because like people were mad at me for things that I had said.

Like I, in their eyes, like I made a mistake.

But I don't really see your situation was so crazy.

right?

Because whether people agreed with how you handled the situation, you didn't do anything wrong, you didn't like hurt anyone.

You weren't, you were just making a decision for your business and for yourself that you thought was best, right?

So, then you know, your relationship and yourself and your business was like sort of attacked for that when you didn't actually do anything wrong.

Yeah, I think, yeah, I think our cancellations were different.

I think mine had like this layer of serious betrayal.

Um, because you didn't really have any of that.

No, no,

I betrayed myself, yeah.

So, I think, like, yeah, the betrayal.

I think, um,

I mean, the bullying, which I'm sure you endured,

but I think maybe like I endured it more a little bit more.

You know what?

You were so unlucky because you wonder why the timing of cancellations are so interesting, depending on the news cycle, what's going on.

Not only was it COVID, so people were bored to tears,

but there was also not much else going on in the news.

So I remember everyone, like, it's not normal for most news stories about like two podcast hosts to get that much news.

Yes.

But there was just nothing else going on, and it was COVID, and sensitivities were heightened.

Oh, my God.

And it was like the timing for you just was atrocious.

Really?

I've never fucking thought about that, but it was actually the worst possible time.

The New York Times was writing about it.

Why is the New York Times writing about this shit?

No, exactly, because it was really not all else going on, and people were working from home and they were obsessed.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

so I think the cancellation, it was hard that way.

And then it was also hard to see something you worked on for so fucking long

be sold for that amount of money that you knew it was worth.

I mean, I actually think if I would have stayed on the show and we would have not betrayed each other and we would have kept working on it, I think we could have sold it for more, right?

Honestly, and that was always the goal because you guys were magic together.

That's why, yeah, that was unprecedented podcast success.

Yeah, from the first year that you guys did it.

Nobody gets to the top of the charts every episode.

Right.

With a one-year-old podcast.

And I think that's where the disconnect was between me and hers.

Like, you know, I was like, no, I'm thinking 100 million, she, whatever.

But I think that

seeing it be sold for even 60 million,

that's kind of crazy.

And I've talked to people about that and they'll say, that's just how life is.

Like, you miss out on money all the time.

And, you know, these business ventures are you pull out stock and like you don't end up making $100 million, whatever.

It's very different when you're on a show and like exploiting your personal life, your sex life, your jokes, your humor, your relationality, your relationship for over two years.

And then for that to be sold for that amount of money and like not see a penny.

You know, that's like, that's very different than like, oh, I'm going to pull out of, you know, Incredible or Beyond Me.

Right.

And now it just went huge, you know, which I did do that, by the way.

You did?

Yeah, I was like an early investor, and then I took all my money out.

And I was like, ooh, I shouldn't have told you.

Big mistake, huge.

Bitch, big mistake, huge.

Wow, look at me.

I'm just fucking up my money.

I just think you should not start, Sophia, with an F for financial assessment.

Like you should not be giving people financial advice.

Absolutely not.

Okay, so now when you look back on the whole thing, like how do you, in one word, like how do you feel about the whole situation now?

In one word,

I get to.

I don't know why I'm putting limitations.

A sentence.

A paragraph.

I don't care.

I would say I feel

not 100% healed,

but I really feel it in my bones that this is going to end up being one of the best things that could have ever happened to me.

I agree.

And even though I'm not there yet, I'm well on my way.

And like, I genuinely believe that.

So I know the answer to this question, but I would be remiss, devastated, and heartbroken.

The people listening would kill me.

What are the odds, the chances, for any sort of reunion between you and Alex?

Zero percent.

That's what I thought.

But I just wanted to put it out there for everyone.

I mean, and that she wants to, you know, Venmo me $3 million.

Which, by the way, people say it was 60, it was more like 40.

Oh, is that true?

And then, oh, and then I guess she's splitting it 50-50, so it's more like 20.

Splitting it with who?

Barstool.

Right?

Yeah, they split it 50-50.

From spot.

From the deal.

Oh, I didn't know that.

I thought it was just the merch.

No, that was in the deal.

From my research.

No, that was in the deal.

Interesting.

Yeah.

So, 20, so if she wants to demo me, 10.

After taxes.

We're at 30.

Agent lawyer commission.

Oh, we're at three.

Oh, my God.

I feel way better about it already.

Okay, I want to stop talking about the caller daddy stuff, but I do have one more thing to say.

Okay, go ahead.

There was an episode.

Lizzie just told me.

Thank you.

Alex said she had a two-hour recording.

of you guys, like a conversation that she really wants to release just so she can clear her name as, you know, not the one who betrayed the other one what do you have to say when did she say that i think she said it on jackie shammel's podcast love jackie shammel oh when was that when was that lucy like somewhat recently oh it was recently yeah um

i know exactly what phone call she's talking about it would 100

not

uh cover her in terms of betrayal whatsoever and i actually remember the phone call and this is when i knew she was a really uh scary person to call a best friend i knew she was recording the whole time oh The way she was talking, being super careful, saying certain words.

I'm like, bitch, you don't talk like this.

I know this shit is being recorded.

Right, right, right.

So then I acted accordingly.

Oh, smart.

Okay, good.

So, I mean, if she wants to release, it's very funny after everything she's done.

She would want to like release something to clear her name.

Like, just move on.

Sorry, wait, I actually have two more questions about this.

Because honestly, I'm just really curious.

So, you guys were sharing an apartment at the time.

Yes.

How awkward was that?

And, like, how did you guys move out?

And did you see each other?

It wasn't that awkward because I avoided the apartment like the plague and I was staying at my boyfriend at the Times house.

And then at a certain point, she ended up texting me being like, I'm fleeing to Pennsylvania to my parents' house.

Like I don't think we should be in the same apartment.

Got it.

So then you guys were able to.

I mean, I think there was like one night before she left for Pennsylvania that I think we were both home and we were both trying to like talk shit on each other.

And our rooms are like five feet away from each other.

And it was like, yeah, but for the most part, I avoided the apartment.

Okay.

And then you took some time off.

And one of my favorite things, because you and I have spoken a lot about this, is you release, like, you were dead silent.

Yeah.

And you released like a couple, was it an Instagram story?

Um,

yes, of me talking.

No!

I already know where I'm going.

No, and by the way, I totally understand being like, you just needing to get something out.

No one's hearing from you.

I'm like, we were like, what is going?

So it goes Sophia, we've heard so much from Alex.

Like, what's going on with Sophia?

And you released this like twisted video.

It was, it was,

remember I'm like pale white like as pale as this wall.

I'm sitting on the carpet of my mom's bedroom.

Right.

I've been bawling my eyes out for seven hours and

I am like told by like my team, you need to put out a statement.

Now is the time.

And I'm like, I don't want to.

I really don't want to.

And then and then I'm sitting there being like, I want to say this, this, and this.

And my team is like, so you're not going to say any of that.

You're actually going to say this script.

And you know what's crazy?

For how shitty that video was, would you believe me?

I told you that was like the 99th like try.

Oh, no, I believe you.

By the way, and so do you have Time Hop?

No.

You don't?

What is that?

Oh my God.

Time Hop.

Sorry, I'm not, how old are you?

33?

I mean, sorry.

I'm sorry, 23 is what I meant to say.

33.

I was going to say you're younger.

I'm 27.

I'm not that much younger than you.

Oh, you're only two years younger.

Yeah.

Okay, I was about to say, I can't keep up with the time.

Well, actually, Time Hop is like really like an old people.

Oh, it

just an app that you connect like your Facebook your Twitter all your social media your photo album on your phone and they show you what you were doing this time last year you get you check it every day so it's like today last year sounds like a very millennial and a very Gen Z thing so for me like I have had my phone for so long all of my like apology videos like a couple days a year when I go back in time it's like oh on this day you were apologizing and my apology video is like so ugly and heinous and like I was so fat at the time like I just want to die and I had this mole on my face like

I was gonna ask if if it comes up in your time hop but no um

i haven't seen i mean well it would show up on my instagram memories right yes it would i haven't seen it yet but like it might be coming up i have a reminder of call her daddy and barstool and shit every day yeah of course so like i'm kind of just numb to it i just exit it out and like go on my merry way so then you launched sophia with an f I've listened to a lot of episodes.

It's so good.

Thank you so much.

It's so good.

And I'm sure it was so hard because just like everyone was wanting you to fail.

But you just came out guns blazing, and you really changed the type of podcaster that you are.

And what I think is so cool about you, I was looking through your podcast episodes, and you have two episodes in a row.

One is an episode on mental health.

Your anxiety is lying to you.

The podcast from the next week, fingering a lost art.

You just can do both.

Yeah.

And why did you feel the need to do a content shift when you had so much success with Caller Daddy being like a pretty much sex-only podcast?

A, I got older.

B, I went through something very traumatic, and I think mental health became a real focus for me because it had to.

And C, I think that

we were just, I think we were limiting ourselves.

I mean, we were on the call her daddy show, and this was now my chance to be able to branch into whatever I want.

And especially because the show is called Sophia and F, it's like, I'm just going to talk about whatever the fuck I want.

Mental health, sex, relationships, what I ate that day, you know?

Yeah.

And I like, I like it.

I like it too.

Thank you.

And also what I like is it's really hard to host a podcast by yourself.

Very.

I think that I'm the most talented person in the world and I could never like, I'm so grateful, Jackie.

I have Jackie and I'm sure Jackie's grateful she has me.

And I know you bring in some people sometimes, but most of the show is you.

How do you do it?

Seriously, like step by step.

So so when I first launched the show, excuse me, that first episode, I really, I had to write a script.

Oh, of course.

There was no, there was just no way.

And there was like legal shit going on and like, there was just no way.

And so I kind of kept that format for a while.

And then I just found myself feeling very not natural, boxed in.

I couldn't, like, I wasn't being as funny as I normally am because you're not off the cuff, you know, all those things.

So then I started to just be like, okay, I'm just going to write down bullet points of what I want to cover and just go that way.

And that's what I've been doing.

Granted, there's a lot more editing because I'll go off the ball to the wall and like say some things that are inappropriate and, you know, whatever.

But that's kind of how I've done it.

It's somewhat pre-planned in that I don't just hop on the mic and go.

That's impossible.

No, no, no, no, exactly.

I've also, though, integrated my cousin, whose name is also Alex, which is hilarious.

I know.

And I'll have her come in a lot as well.

That's nice.

Yeah, to bounce off of, like a Jackie.

And so, do you think when

and if you moved out of Utah, like your content will change at all?

um

oh that's a really good question I like more guests I think yeah I think absolutely more guests and I think it will just evolve the way that I'm an evolved once I'm back here if that makes sense you know

just like my best version can I ask you a question because I feel like you know every podcaster there's haters whatever and people who have legitimate critiques and I think a critique that we get a lot that I think you get a lot too is people finding our voices annoying like vocal fry we get that all the time and it's like if I could change it I would sorry i was born this way like we i don't find yours annoying at all mine sounds like i'm like crying like

it sounds like i'm whining cry everything's a question yes

like i i yeah does that bother you i mean does it bother me that my voice is like that no that people

like that that critique I had to get over that within three months when people say such horrible things about you when you get canceled it actually takes a lot to offend you moving forward it's so fucking true.

I wish the worst thing people said about me was that my voice was annoying.

Oh, me too.

That's when you know our cancellations were so fucking bad is because that is like that doesn't even affect me anymore.

Literally, you know.

Um, what's your philosophy on?

Because you, I feel like before Caller Daddy, you weren't super active on social media, like the podcast was your job.

And now that you're very much like an entrepreneur and the podcast is fed by the Instagram followers, and you have a whole page for Sophia with an F podcast, you post a lot more.

And I'm curious what your, because I'm very pro this particular topic.

What is your your philosophy on FaceTune?

Ooh,

I used to be all about that.

I'm not against it.

I think it's like, so basically with like Instagram stories, every single one used to have a fucking filter on it.

Now I try to never do that.

But I think if you want to throw on a little bit of FaceTune here and there, who cares?

Who cares?

Who cares?

I honestly.

I love it.

I'm obsessed.

I don't think I've ever posted a photo that wasn't FaceTune.

That wasn't FaceTuned.

that's because I'm a deeply insecure person and I own it.

Like my actual Instagram bio is this is a FaceTune fan page.

Like I so just know everything you're seeing.

I'm giving you the precursor disclaimer.

This isn't real.

And I think that's fair.

I like to mix it up and I like to mix it up because of my insecurities and hear me out.

I'm terrified that I'm going to start showing up places and people are going to be like, that is not what she looks like.

You look exactly like your girlfriend.

Oh, that picture is so nice because when I first

when I first went out on tour, I was like, this is the first time people are seeing me in person.

And I had like a whole 30 minutes in the beginning like i know you guys might not not know who i am but like i'm the girl from instagram like i look so different and i don't even care at this point like i literally you look exactly the same so i don't know if you don't know how to use face

like i'm telling you nobody on the planet knows how to use facetune better than me and okay if there was a competition i would win okay well you i don't think you're you're not taking it way too far can i ask you a question first of all are you single

I'm kind of working things out right now.

Okay, because first of all, I imagine it's quite difficult to date when, like, oh, I'm, I see this girl on Hinge, Sophia, let me look her up.

Like, uh-huh.

I imagine it's difficult to decide who to go out on a date with.

Wait, what do you mean by that?

Like, okay, let's say you meet someone on Hinge and you're like, Hi, I'm Sophia.

I don't know, do you use Hinge?

I don't, I'm not on any dating apps right now.

Okay, let's say, okay, you got to a bar, okay, this really handsome, rich man, okay, and you're like, Hi, I'm Sophia two days ago, yeah, you put your number in his phone, Sophia Franklin.

And are you thinking at all, like, is he gonna Google me?

No,

okay, I don't mean to put

I'm just so insecure I'm like nobody because I I don't think what they would be able to Google is like bad enough that like it would make a dude not want to go on a date and also we're talking about like men we're talking about we're talking about human beings with penises usually like he doesn't care what it says about me on Google he cares like what I look like you know naked of course I mean that's really what it comes down to so are you

open because you put so much of your relationship out there the last time Is that something you will never do again or will do again?

I haven't decided.

I think that now that I own my own company, it's not as risky to do something like that.

It's like, you know, what is Dave, Portnoy, and Barcelona going to like come after my boyfriend?

Like, okay, cool.

But I think I'll be more careful.

Yeah.

You know?

And I will be more careful with.

But I mean, at the same time, like, I didn't, it wasn't really me who told anyone anything It was my ex-co-host my ex-best friend right and you were you weren't publicly saying who he was right?

You know pseudonym I never said who he was and I really only revealed details that I Felt that he would be okay with people knowing she kind of took all of the the shit and ran with it and told me

so it's kind of like you know I think this next time like I would be open to letting people know do you still talk to him?

Yes.

Okay.

Are you guys on good terms?

Yes, we are.

Okay, that's nice.

Yes, very good terms.

Okay, Okay, so before I wrap up, I just want to say, mm-hmm, you've been on quite a journey.

Yes.

You've definitely come out on the other end, and I think you've come out now, like with a, like, I think a lot of your podcast episodes are surprising.

I don't think people would have thought that this is where you would have ended up, but it's such a more like mature, well-rounded podcast, and you can really tell like you put your whole ass into it.

Like you really are out there just like doing fingering and doing anxiety and mental health.

And I just think that's extremely cool because I think obviously why people were always so drawn to you is like you're super funny and you know you say crazy sex things that like people are thinking but never will say out loud, and there's so much respect for that.

But now you're also like changing, like flipping the script a little bit.

Yeah, and thank you so much.

How long has it been now since your podcast came out?

Um, a little bit over a year, I want to say, and it's doing really well, it's doing really, really well.

Um, you know, sometimes it plays with my head a little bit because I did come from the biggest podcast in the world.

So that's like another thing that, you know, I kind of carry with me frame of reference.

Yes, but however, it's doing, you know, incredible.

It's top 1% of podcasts, just like yours.

And the reception has been really, really positive.

Really, really salutes.

The suts.

Am I saying that correctly?

Yes, the salutes die for you.

The salutes, and you know, a lot of the people that used to listen to the old show, call her daddy, like a lot of them are now spewing F people.

Yeah, because there's a lot of the same magic that was there, but you're also evolving, which is always good.

Like, when you're on the internet for a long time, like, you can't keep doing the same thing.

You've got to evolve.

You've got to be different, grow up, mature, because your audience is a lot of them is like the same age as you.

And so you're all growing up together.

Yep.

100%.

100%.

Well, I love you.

You're so funny.

I'm so glad to finally have met you in person.

Me too.

I want to go out for drinks one night.

I can feel something.

Well, I told you that we're going out tonight, and maybe you shouldn't move your flight.

Now that we've connected, you see, I'm like, cool, like, I think maybe you should move your flight.

Just think about it.

I will.

And Jackie is so mad that she's not here.

She's literally like, she listens to your podcast all the time.

I love her so much.

And obviously she's so pregnant, she just like can't risk

seeing people, especially someone who was on an airplane five minutes ago.

I haven't seen them in like a month.

So I just wanted to impart to you, like, she loves you.

Keep doing the work that you're doing.

Thank you so much.

And Jackie and I will film something for sure.

Definitely.

But that was Sophia with an F and Claudia with a C.

If you want to hear more from Sophia, her podcast is available everywhere.

Claudia with a K.

No.

Her podcast is everywhere, right?

Spotify, iTunes, all the places.

Sophia with an F.

And then you can follow her on Instagram at Sophia Franklin.

Yep, Sophia Lynn F, Franklin with a Y.

Oh, I like that.

Okay.

And you should change the name.

Sophia Sophie Lynn F.

Franklin with the Y

to your podcast.

Oh, you should.

Yeah, that'll be really confusing.

It'll be like, oh, really?

It'll be Sophia Yanklin.

Everyone, follow, listen, subscribe.

Thank you guys so much.

I hope you enjoyed this episode, and we're back tomorrow for another episode.

Goodbye.

Bye.