S5 Ep23: Prude or Prudent?: Tuesday, February 8th, 2022

Good morning, Millennials.

Welcome back to the Morning Toast.

Happy Tuesday.

Claude is coming to us live from the studio.

It's so

heartwarming to see those toasty palm leaves.

Hey, Claude, how are you doing?

Well, what you're seeing is the toasty palm leaves.

In front of me, I'm seeing a studio that hasn't been touched in months.

There are packages everywhere.

It's literally chaos here.

That's why I had to come in.

We got to go through some of these boxes.

Anything good?

Yeah, a mattress, more sewing down south pillows, some copies of my book, lots of skincare, lots of different new sponsors coming on.

So it's exciting.

But before we get into today's show, I have four things to say that I actually wrote down.

Wow.

Wow, this better be good.

The first thing is that I wanted to let everyone know that if you're coming to my shows this weekend in Boston on Saturday and Sunday, we will be having Spritz, which is very exciting.

So come Thursday.

Another spritz-related announcement is if you're a California resident, we are now being sold in Bevmo locations and total wine.

So I know a lot of the locations have received the shipments yet and you guys have already gone.

Some of them are still rolling out.

So just call your local Bevmo, your local total wines if you want to get Spritz in store, which is very exciting.

That was two.

Three.

Do you remember how I was talking about a couple weeks, no, like a week ago, that I caught up on RuPaul's drag race and my favorite cream was cornbread, which ultimately meant she was going to go home soon.

Yes.

I forgot to tell you that on last Friday's episode, cornbread hurt her ankle and went home.

So I literally cursed her immediately.

But it's pre-filmed, so not really.

And the fourth thing I have to say is I have an enormous surprise for you.

For me?

Is it just for me or for everyone?

For you.

Well, everyone can enjoy.

Oh my my god, I'm so excited.

What is it?

So, do you remember how I called you last night and then you were like, Sorry, I just woke up.

I'll call you back.

And then I said, No, never mind.

I forgot.

Yeah.

Well, I didn't forget.

I realized the thing I wanted to show you, I wanted to show you on air because it is a gift for you.

Oh my god.

Okay, I'm ready.

I'm so excited.

Yeah.

Hi, Jackie.

This is Carl from the Rawhouse Wives of Salt Lake City.

Claudia wanted me to tell you: good luck with your pregnancy and that you're an amazing sister.

She loves you so much and believes that you will be a great mom to your baby boy.

I have a joke for you that I think you will thoroughly enjoy.

At the wedding, there are three rings: there's the engagement ring, the wedding ring, and the suffering.

I hope you have a great day, a great year,

and you will be a great mother to your baby boy.

Bye.

Oh my God.

Carlin, if Carlin says I'm gonna be a great mom, then it's facts.

So for those who may not be familiar, literally a month ago, I tried to get a cameo from Carlin when Jackie was really at the height of her obsession with Carlin, and it went unresponsive.

And then last night, the cameo gods opened up their clouds and dropped a cameo from Carlin.

Oh my god, that is so beautiful.

You obviously have to send it to me.

Damn, I haven't seen Carlin in a while because they've been in Zion, so she hasn't been on the show.

But look at her.

She's such a professional queen, like hitting all of her talking points, ring lights,

throwing in a joke.

You love to see it.

Yeah, so that really made my night last night.

And I'm glad you didn't pick up the phone when I called because I think it's better to have shown it to you on

camera.

That is so sweet.

I feel so like thought of and I really appreciate the gift.

You know, I love our sporadic gift exchange.

It's been a while since we've done it, and now it's my turn.

I owe you.

That is true.

You do owe me.

And I don't know how you're going to top a cameo from the one and only, Carlin.

No, that's literally an amazing idea.

I don't know how I'm going to top that with a gift that you're just going to leave in the studio and never take home.

I know.

Also, speaking of studio, I am at the studio today, which does mean

my tabletop triangle will be making many appearances.

So get ready for lots of song and dance today, y'all.

I'm so excited.

It also means that you are filming an interview with a guest.

Yeah, so I'm in studio because I'm filming an episode today that will air tomorrow with our, we'll do a regular episode.

Excuse me.

So, it's a guest segment.

Yeah, it's a guest segment.

We'll do a regular episode tomorrow, and then at the end, I'm sitting down with someone who's been highly requested on this show.

Um, and someone who I've actually never met, but I've spoken to like a bunch of times.

So, I'm actually excited to meet them in person.

And it's going to be really exciting.

Yeah.

I mean, I'm so excited as a fan to watch the two of you, as a fan of both of you, actually, just to watch like two people who I enjoy converse.

It's something that I would watch on my own if I wasn't a participant in this show.

And no pressure, but like, you got to crush it.

No, I know.

And we also just have like a great show today because there's obviously the fast five.

It's Dear Toasters, which is always a great day.

And did you watch Summerhouse?

I did.

I caught up on Summerhouse last night.

I'm pretty much all caught up, except I didn't record the first 20 minutes of last night's episode, so I missed the response of like, are you hooking up with Kristen?

So we didn't really get much.

Like Craig was being a gaslighter and like

Paige was basically like, I know I can't be mad, but like I can be sad.

Yeah, sure.

But like she's doing the exact same thing with Andrea.

literally to a T and Andrea's in the house.

No, and she knows that, but she's, I guess she's now discovering like she actually has real feelings for Craig.

Totally, and I'm excited to talk about it.

And so, just those 20 minutes I missed, but I watched the rest of the episode and I watched everything that I had missed previously.

So, I'm excited.

Yeah, and I really, I just want to get your take on like everyone, like what your thoughts are on people.

Yeah, I have some strong feelings, but I'm also seeing how like my feelings are already changing.

So, it's like, I don't want to say anything like too hurtful because I can't take that back.

And I'm really, I don't feel this way about Summer House, but I feel this way about Housewives.

It's like doing this show,

I sometimes feel like I might not want to say something about someone just in case like we ever have them on.

You just don't want like your words to come back to haunt you.

And then I think we need to like make a pact.

Like either we keep recapping and saying our truth or no housewives come on because it's like you don't want to say something that you like later regret.

I want Paige on the toes.

So

I couldn't think of one crossword to say about Paige.

Oh, me neither.

Literally, can you imagine just like running around in a house full of cameras, looking as snatched as she does, like with her legs in different positions?

Like I would be so self-conscious.

She's so stunning.

And also her mom gives such good advice.

I was thinking like that is really sound, motherly, good dating advice.

Yeah, except she's Tim Andrea and I just, I can't.

She doesn't know yet.

She doesn't know yet.

She doesn't know Craig like we do.

But no, I wasn't talking about the summer house cast.

Like I

feel comfortable sharing my thoughts and opinions.

Your true thoughts.

And most of them are positive.

But it is interesting how people just can grow on you in one episode.

And I'm like, oh,

I take back everything I said.

Totally.

Totally.

So

I guess without further ado, because we have so much to do to do to do,

let's get into the fast five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast.

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Okay, our first story, like I can't believe this is news.

I feel like I'm in middle school, but it's also a big deal.

Pete Davidson calls Kim Kardashian his girlfriend for the first time.

Pete Davidson was on People People the TV show and when he was asked if his heightened fame had led to a more fun lifestyle, he simply responded that most of his days consist of him showing up to a set or hanging with friends or his quote girlfriend.

He said, or if he was afraid of the girl.

He ran right by that word.

Yep, I just either hang with my friends or chill with my girlfriend inside, so I don't do much.

I mean, we have to take stock here.

We have to zoom out.

They have been linked since October.

It is February.

Like, that is a long time.

And they're still together.

And they're together all the time.

Like, duh, their boyfriend and girlfriend.

But it's still shookworthy to hear him say it, considering I don't think any of us thought that we would still be here five months later.

No, and he literally swallowed the word.

Like, I got to hang out with my friends, my girlfriend.

And also, there were two other notable things that happened from the interview.

In the background, the host pointed out was like, do you have a Kim Kardashian?

You know those prayer candles where like,

you're like those long, tall candles?

Kim has one with her face on it, and he had one in his room, which was incredibly cute.

And then also she was asking him about Valentine's Day, and he was like, this is like the first year I think I'm like having a real Valentine's Day, which is so cute.

How is it the first year?

He always has a girlfriend.

Maybe not like in February, because he only, he does like brief stints, you know?

Yeah, and I'm sure maybe

I'm like, boyfriend.

He's one of those guys who like breaks up before Valentine's Day, so is like not to get too serious, resumes after Valentine's Day.

But But because he's looking forward to Valentine's Day with Kim, like once again, shows that this relationship is much more mature than we thought it would be.

You know, like when it first started, I was like, this is perfect thing for Kim.

You know, bounce back, have fun.

But I don't know, the more I learn, the more I think this has OTP potential.

OTP potential?

You think so?

I mean, I don't know.

It seems like Kim is in the best place she's ever been.

Anything could happen.

And Pete does have to, you know, settle down at some point with someone.

And maybe it's Kim.

I haven't really confronted that thought yet.

To me, this is still like, you know, a cuffing season fling and rebounding from however long she was married.

But I would love to.

And I doubt she wants to be wrong.

I would love to be wrong here.

I welcome that.

I doubt she wants to like jump back into like a commitment marriage OTP, but you just never know.

Like you expect a rebound and then you just fall head over heels.

You just never know.

That's the beautiful thing about love.

Yeah.

So that's really exciting on the Kim and Pete front.

So happy for them.

Something for the Keat stands.

Also, our next story is a little more Pete Davidson news, completely unrelated, but still exciting.

New York City is giving Pete Davidson and Colin Jost extra time to move the Staten Island ferry.

So Pete Davidson and Colin Jost bought, okay, I don't know if you know this, Pete Davidson and Colin Jost bought a retired Staten Island ferry and they want to turn it into a comedy club.

But they're having a hard time moving.

Oh, we're going to have that idea.

Yeah, they're having a hard time moving the ferry and like getting it into port, literal ship at port.

But the city is giving them extra time to figure it out.

The massive ship called the John F.

Kennedy was still berthed Saturday on city property near the St.

George Ferry terminal, well past the 10 business days they were required to move it by.

However, the Post is told that City Hall is giving them an extension.

They're working with us.

They know it's not an easy task and they're being very helpful in helping them get the boat to a pier.

But then they're going to start a comedy club in a retired Staten Island ferry.

And I just think that is

so cool.

No, that's a really sick idea.

I love people, you know.

Obviously, Pete Davidson is from Staten Island and I saw people on TikTok were shook to find out that Colin Jose was from Staten Island as well.

Maybe because Pete talks about it like 24/7, and Colin Jost has never mentioned it.

So, I guess this is what they were referring to.

This is how the internet found out that Colin Jost actually was, in fact, from Staten Island.

I love people who give back to their community, who want to help their cities.

New York is in dire need of some new attractions.

I think this is such a cool idea.

I can imagine getting like a little nauseous.

Like, you're already nervous.

You're doing stand-up for the first time.

You just got booked five minutes at the Staten Island Ferry.

Stomach's in knots.

You get on stage.

The boat doesn't stop moving.

You just puke.

Yeah, but you have to think of all of these like cruise performers and stuff who perform on boats all the time.

Plus, the

form on huge boats.

This is a big fucking vessel.

Like, this is serious.

This isn't a little, you know,

tugboat.

It's, it's big.

I'm sure you could feel like the motion of the ocean beneath you, but I don't think it'll be that crazy.

It's like when you go to, actually, even when you go to like a restaurant like Grand Banks, you know that place?

Yeah.

It's like a bow boat.

This is so much, this is so much bigger.

It's better than that.

Yeah.

No, I don't know.

Yeah, and people go there willingly.

People go there of their own volition.

They do.

I think it's such a cool idea.

Yeah, me too.

And just the idea of thinking about like Pete, Colin, Kim, Scar Joe, like taking in an evening of comedy on a retired Staten Island ferry is the sort of dreams that I didn't even know that I had.

And you know what?

This is, from a business perspective, like really a no-brainer no-brainer because I can't imagine they're going to have a shortage of comedians who would love to do shows there.

I mean, up-and-comers, of course, because you want to be seen by Colin Jost, who writes for SNL and Pete Davidson.

But then also, like, they have so many comedian friends.

Like, this is going to be a pop-in destination.

They want to park it in Staten Island.

No, just

a pier off the, in the city.

They need to find like, you know, a home for it.

But they also need, they're having a harder time moving it from where it is right now.

Like, it's going to cost a lot of money and a lot lot of people.

Doesn't the boat just need to like put it into drive?

That would make sense.

Maybe in the water and it's a boat.

Where are the keys?

What's so difficult?

I'm not understanding.

Put the sail up and go.

That is so,

so funny.

Maybe broken.

Maybe it's broken and that's why it has to tow it toward.

Yeah, exactly.

They do have to tow it, but that's.

That's really a good idea.

Something worth thinking about.

Something to think about for sure.

I mean, who knows?

Maybe this will become like the premier comedy spot in town and like you'll be able to see not like other girls there.

Oh my God.

I would love to.

I would be honored to humble to.

I think this is such a cool idea.

I'd like this is so unique.

I can't think of anyone doing it.

It's so them because Pete is so Staten Island and they're so comedy.

And I just think it's great.

I think it's going to be giving comedy seller a run for their money.

Yeah, no, and I think there's never enough comedy and people like love a night out.

I think this is just a great idea by all accounts.

And I

I hope I step foot in there one day.

Even though I'm support.

I wouldn't.

I'm the one who would get queasy.

Like, that's too much for me.

But

I'm very delicate with the motion of the ocean.

So I'm not one to go by.

But you're so delicate.

You just make little small poo rocks.

Small poop rocks.

Oh my God.

That was so fucking funny yesterday.

If you haven't listened to yesterday's episode, we

hit off our inaugural segment.

No.

We launched.

Okay, whatever.

We have a new segment on Mondays called Unburden Yourselves.

And if you want to submit, I just want to stress the email is Unburden Yourselves,

plural, not Unburden Yourself.

We couldn't get that email.

Right.

And because of that, we're going to make the name of the segment Unburden Yourselves.

Because why do we need to make it so fucking confusing?

It's Unburden Yourself, but the email is Unburdening Yourselves.

It's just

the whole thing is called Unburden Yourselves.

It ain't.

I changed it.

I realized that yesterday, so I changed it in the description of the episode because I was like, why are we making our lives more difficult?

Harder.

Yeah.

It ain't right.

It ain't right.

Are you ready for our next story?

Yeah.

Okay.

Because we are welcoming another queen to the pregnancy club.

Shay Mitchell is pregnant, expecting her second child with Matt Babble.

She announced that she is pregnant with her second child and said, saying goodbye to a loved one while simultaneously experiencing the joy of welcoming another into this world is the great cycle of life.

It is almost my challenging, it is also my most challenging season to date.

She said, um, her grandmother had passed away last week.

So she's, you know, these two things are happening at the same time

emotionally, but we are very excited for her.

She's so premium.

Like everything she puts out is just like gorgeous, stunning, perfect.

This photo shoot she had was chef's kiss, impeccable, just like gorgeousness.

Um, but I love to talk.

Excuse me, hold on, I have to sneeze.

I'm going on mute.

Oh, I'd love that I can mute myself.

Um,

this talking about Shea Mitchell like really reignites my love for examining the post-life and career of all the pretty little liars, girls.

Like, for me, and do I talk about this a lot?

Is this one of my things?

It's not one of your things, but it's like, um, it's getting there.

It's not getting there.

It's just

I Don't know where I would categorize it, but go off you're you're very passionate.

I just love I think it's like such an interesting like Hollywood

What's it called when it's like a test case case study

on How four girls can rise to fame and then they all literally did completely different things with it afterwards and I feel like if I had to have been one of those girls, I would have wanted to be Shea Mitchell

Yeah, but which part do you think that she's excelled at best?

Because she does a lot.

Yeah, but she's, I would say

her career is like being like a really, really high-profile influencer.

Yeah.

I know she also is a little bit.

And she's an entrepreneur.

She has her like luggage company.

She's a cocktail.

Luggage company.

And a canned cocktail.

Oh, wow.

Yeah, she does a little bit of everything.

Yeah, and I think she's like did it really well.

Like I remember when she was on Pretty Little Liars, especially towards the end, she was just like plugging her YouTube channel so much.

And I'm like, why are you doing this?

But, you know, long term, I think she has such an interesting, like, well-rounded career

that includes acting, but it's not the main drag.

Yeah, for me, I'm more of a Lucy Hale.

You know, I would have pivoted towards Hallmark movies and the CW and influencing as well.

Also good.

And then Troyne Belisario very much went like the activist route.

I know she's like a big activist, especially on social media.

And Ashley Benson just kind of went like the socialite route.

Like she doesn't really like do anything, but she's still really famous.

Yeah.

And Troyen, like whatever she did, she ended up at the royal wedding.

And so

she

also made it.

She made a really good marriage.

Like I think they have a good marriage.

I think they love each other very much.

And he also got her invited to the royal wedding.

And that is truly a match made in heaven.

Yeah.

So

it all has its pros and cons.

It all worked out.

It did.

It really did.

Well, I'm happy for Shane Mitchell.

Another one added to the club.

As we, as you know, the club shrinks and it grows at the same time.

We just, Kylie's now, you know, in the postmartum club, but now we have Shay.

So it's still exciting, though.

I do feel like less of a kinship to

just because I'm like, you're almost there.

Like, yeah.

You're not really in the club anymore.

No, I'm in the club.

I'm as clubby as.

You're as clubby as a.

Yeah.

How are you doing, by the way?

I'm doing good.

I am.

I can't believe you're still here.

I know.

I know.

The struggle is real.

Like, Like for the past month, I've been like,

mornings are my favorite.

Yeah.

Now

I still love like doing the toast.

Like once we're into the toast, but like just even getting ready.

It's not like I'm sleeping so well, but it's like.

Just having to wake up and then get out of bed as opposed to like lay there, even though I do need to get up because I do need to pee.

It's just like I'm physically more exhausted.

Like everything hurts.

It's so crazy.

Like I'm just constantly, every time I move a muscle, I'm like, uh,

like everything comes with a soundtrack.

I feel like you've set a really bad precedent here at the Morning Toast.

This is our first, you know, maternity leave.

And I just feel like you've set a bad precedent.

Like, you should have been gone months ago.

And I just want to say, like, I will not be doing what you did.

That is fine.

Everyone is different.

And I,

whatever you need to do, you'll need to do.

That's completely fine.

And I'm just doing like whatever I can.

But I also know it's nice to know that like, you know, you have given me a lot of flexibility, though I have not opted to take it.

but I do feel very much

accommodated here at the Morning Toast with our

pre- and postpartum

policies.

Schedule.

Yeah.

Good, good, good.

We are a company that supports pregnant women.

We are.

We are.

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Now, our fourth and fifth stories, we'll go with the fourth and then the fifth because that's how, you know, numbers work.

But we have Oscar nominations and we have Razzie nominations today

I'm ready for number five I know me too but let's just go through the Oscar nominations also to see if there's any crossover something that's nominated for an Oscar and a Razzie that's always so funny when that happens or like an actor or actress who's nominated in one movie for an Oscar and in another for a Razzie The Razzies are so shady.

Like, I didn't know that they released their nominations the same day as the Oscars.

Like that is peak comedy.

Everything about the Razzies are iconic, and I think

it's like a dream of ours to host the Razzies more so than the Oscars.

If the Razzies are listening, like we love everything that you do year after year, you never disappoint.

Okay.

So, here are the Oscar nominations for the big categories, okay?

Best picture: we have Belfast, Coda, Don't Look Up, Drive My Car, Dune, King Richard, Licorice Pizza, Nightmare Alley, The Power of the Dog, Westside Story.

Okay, a thousand movies.

A thousand movies.

I have not seen one of them.

Me neither.

And what's notably missing is House of Gucci.

Yes, and Lady Gaga did not get the nomination either for best actress.

And I think, you know, her fans are quaking, but I haven't seen it yet, so I can't say.

Me neither.

The reviews and the trailer like didn't look promising.

Anyways, let's continue on.

Best actress.

Jessica Chastain, The Eyes of Tammy Faye, Olivia Coleman, The Lost Daughter, Penelope Cruz, Parallel Mothers, Nicole Kidman, Being the Ricardos, Kristen Stewart, Spencer.

All right, still no house of Gucci.

I haven't seen any of these movies.

I love Nicole Kidman.

I love Penelope Cruz.

I'm happy for everyone.

I've never seen it.

I love Olivia Coleman.

I hope they all win.

Oh, and Kristen Stewart, this is her first Oscar nomination, right?

I think so, even though she was snubbed for Twilight Breaking Dawn part two.

Part one and two.

I agree.

I hope she wins.

I do love her, even though I also heard bad reviews about Spencer.

So.

Yeah.

Then for best actor, we have Javier.

No, not these days.

Javier Bardem for being the Ricardos.

Benedict Cumberbatch, The Power of the Dog, Andrew Garfield, Tick Tick Boom, Will Smith, King Richard, Denzel Washington, The Tragedy of Macbeth.

What I heard, the only thing I've heard about any of these films is that like Will Smith put his foot in King Richard.

Like he was incredible.

So he's an amazing actor.

I hope I actually am rooting for Will here.

Yeah, then I'm going to scroll down.

We don't need to do like supporting, whatever.

Just some other categories that I personally enjoy.

Best animated film.

I mean, I think it goes without saying it'll be Encanto, but the nominees are Encanto, Flea, Luca, The Mitchells versus the Machines, Raya, and the Last Dragon.

Luca was big.

Luca was big, but like, and Kanto is taking the world by storm.

And I know so many people message me.

I know that there's a song.

I don't know about Bruno.

No, no, no.

Wait.

We don't talk about Bruno.

We don't talk about Bruno.

That's the only part I know because that's the part that went viral on TikTok.

And then this song also went viral on TikTok.

He saw Didget the man of my dreams.

That's all I know.

Very cool.

Everyone, you don't understand, like, is like, you have to watch Encanto.

There's a song about Bruno.

I haven't watched it yet.

And Olivia, it was like, Kayla loves Encanto, and Olivia is like, you have to watch Encanto.

Like, you're going to love it.

Plus, there's the Bruno element.

But I still haven't watched it.

And like, I'm sure I'll be watching Encanto for the rest of my life.

Rest of your life.

I don't need to watch it right now, even though it's, I hear that there's a song about Bruno.

Watch Paul Dark.

Watch Pozark, Paul Dark.

Yeah, while I still can.

Even Luca, there's a character named Bruno.

Silencio Bruno.

So

Bruno is on the up.

No, that name is going to be like next year's top

list of names.

Yeah, no, it's iconic.

I love Bruce.

I miss him, even though he was in the other room.

Suck a bat Bruno.

And then best original song is always a fun category.

We have Be Alive from King Richard by Beyonce.

Dos Ariguitas from Encanto, Lynn Manuel Miranda.

So we don't talk about Bruno was actually.

We don't talk about Bruneau was not even nominated

for this category.

Then we have Down to Joy from Belfast by Van Morrison.

No Time to Die from No Time to Die, Billie Eilish.

Somehow You Do from Four Good Days by Diane Warren.

So obviously there's like a...

It's almost like a joke now.

Diane Warren is like the Leonardo DiCaprio of this category.

She's nominated every single year, and I do not believe she has won once.

That's crazy.

I don't think that this is her year.

I do think Billie Eilish will win.

You think so?

Yeah.

I feel like

Ncanto might win.

I honestly, I don't know enough of the songs, but like,

I don't know.

Honestly, I don't know, and I don't care.

Especially since

we don't talk about Bruno.

Obviously, he should have been the one.

But they put fourth probably this one instead.

Well, I'm holding on for Diane Warren.

Tonight's, this year's her year.

Yeah, it seems like as good a year as any.

Yeah.

I know Lady Gaga got nothing.

I know.

And she like put her whole like life and foot into House of Gucci.

And now she has to like do that again for another picture if she wants to be an Eagle.

She move her back into it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know, she like just leaves everything.

Like, it's probably exhausting.

Well, she has the Oscar from Shallow.

She has Grammys, obviously.

Did she get a Tony?

No.

No.

Lady Gaga Egot.

Singer-songwriter has two golden globes, which doesn't count.

No.

She got

those.

The Harper's Bazaar.

Like, talk about giving us crap we don't need.

I think she has an Emmy from American Horror Story.

She does.

She has an Emmy and a Grammy, multiple.

Two golden globes that don't count.

Obviously, a million Grammys.

Oscar, yes.

So she just needs the Tony.

Yeah, this is the only initial she hasn't touched yet.

The superstar has not yet earned a Tony nomination, but we wouldn't be surprised if she brought her talents to the Broadway stage in the near future.

Maybe suggest a theater adaptation of A Star is Born.

Harper's Bazaar, just stick to the facts, okay?

No, people have a really hard time doing that.

No, everyone's got to be like a comedian, you know?

Yeah, totally.

Okay, but more importantly, it's time for the Razzies.

Are you ready?

It's the final Razzie.

Give it up to the Razzies.

We want to host one

day.

And that's a magic number.

Thank you.

Wonderful.

Feels good to express myself.

The nominees for Worst Picture are Diana the Musical,

Infinite, Karen,

Space Jam, A New Legacy, and The Woman in the Window.

I haven't heard of really any of these.

Woman in the Window is the movie that was based on the book that's like a thriller.

Amy Adams is in it.

I didn't hear whether it was good or bad, but apparently it was bad.

And you've heard of Space Jam, obviously.

Yeah, I feel like based on the titles, Diana the Musical should win.

Yeah.

Okay, worst actor, Scott Eastwood, Dangerous.

That's blasphemous.

That ain't right.

Blasphemous.

Roy Hart Ramp as Prince Charles in Diana the Musical.

I think Diana of the Musical might sweep this year.

LeBron James and Space Jam.

Ooh.

Ben Platt and Deer Evan Hansen.

Ding, ding, ding.

We have a winner.

Mark Wahlberg and Infinite.

Didn't see it.

I think I've only seen one of these movies, but Ben Platt definitely feels like he gave the worst performance.

Then we have worst actress.

We have

Ben Platt takes himself so seriously.

Do you think he got an email from his manager this morning that he got nominated for a Rousey and it's bothering him?

I do think it's bothering him.

I don't think anyone told him yet.

I think they're trying to figure out how to tell him.

Yeah, delicately.

Worst actress.

We have Amy Adams in the woman in the window.

She can't win.

Jenna DeWall, Diana the Musical.

Megan Fox, Midnight in the Switchgrass.

Taryn Manning, Karen, Ruby Rose, Vanquish.

It's a tight category.

A sweep for Diana the Musical.

I really am.

Wow.

We're supporting actress, Amy Adams, again for Dear Evan Hansen.

And Taryn Manning again.

Taryn Manning, they're both nominated in both categories.

Wow.

She was really bad, Amy Adams.

She must have been, if the Razzie said so.

This is so funny.

So, so funny.

Also, in Worst Supporting Actor, Ben Affleck is nominated for the last duel.

Jared Leto, House of Gucci.

Well, there's House of Gucci's nomination.

Wow.

Nick Cannon, the misfits.

More Diana, the musical.

Crazy.

I'm pulling for Diana this year.

You are.

Okay.

You should also watch it.

I'd rather have a day of watching Razzie Razzie nominees than Oscar nominees.

I couldn't agree more.

So much more complex and dynamic.

100%.

Anyways, there's some more categories that are hysterical, but may the worst actors win.

Congratulations, Ben Platt.

To everyone who was nominated.

Like,

what does Hollywood think of the Razzies?

Because I respect them, but like, is it something like it started off as like a parody, but now it's like something we've all come to look forward to every year.

Yeah, I think some, probably some actors like lean into it, especially if you're someone who was nominated for an Oscar and a Razzie in the same year.

I don't think that we have any of that here,

but

it's funny.

Like, I hope that they can laugh at themselves.

It's hysterical.

Speaking of hysterical, when, no, today's Tuesday.

Tuesday is the day we do Dear Toasters, which is our advice segment.

So if you ever want to write in, it's deartoasters at gmail.com.

And we will do our best to guide you, you know,

in the best possible route.

It's totally anonymous.

So again, that's deartoasters at gmail.com.

Here we go.

Good morning, ladies.

Here's an important fact.

I'm 27, and here's my dilemma.

I seem to have a type, and that seems to be 20 years older than me.

My most recent exes are 45, 41, and 47.

I've always found myself dating men who have daughters close to me in age and

closer to me in age than they are.

For the record, we've always become besties, and that's never been a problem.

I really don't want kids of my own, so there's no issue.

But I do find myself worried about 30 years from now when I'm still in my 50s, and my husband is almost 80 and needs a diaper change.

Of course, my poor father isn't exactly thrilled when he's meeting my new man, and they're practically the same age.

And he made a comment the other day implying he really wishes I would find someone younger.

My mom seems to have made peace with this, but I'm torn.

I've recently tried dating a couple guys in their late 20s, early 30s, but it lasted like two dates because I was just not into it.

I recently started talking to another guy, and of course, he's 43.

And And of course, I'm super into him.

For the record, I'm young, hot, successful.

I'm financially independent with a great career, and I've purchased multiple homes completely on my own.

So I'm not after their money.

I'm just into maturity.

So do I keep being that girl who dates old men or do I suck it up and lower my maximum age on bumble?

Sincerely, a toaster with salt and pepper taste.

I have to say, I think there's two things here.

One,

I don't think there's anything wrong with dating someone older, especially you're not like you seem like your motives are totally pure.

But I hear you on the being 50 and wiping your 80-year-old husband's ass.

I hear you.

So, can we date like a 35-year-old, like 37, 38, someone 10 years older, not 20?

That way you're closer and they're still mature.

That's what I was thinking too.

Like, you, just because, like, 20 years old is a lot older than you, like, doesn't mean you have to date someone your old age, your own age.

And I also think you make a very good point about like being attracted to maturity.

And so,

if you are like having good relationships, I wouldn't worry about that so much.

And I also wouldn't worry about what's going down when you're 50 years old.

Because also, when you're 50, like everyone's mature, and then maybe it's time for you to date someone your own age at that point.

So, don't worry about 30 years from now, just do what makes you happy and try and find the best connection for yourself.

And maybe you could, you know, high 30s it

find some somewhere in the middle, but the heart wants what it wants and it does sound like

you like who you like, yeah, you like who you like, and your motives do sound pure, and maturity is very attractive.

So

I think as long as you can like see, like it seems like you see all of the quote-unquote issues and what could arise, and you're not like keeping your head down or blind to it.

So I wouldn't be so worried.

I mean, it's definitely, it's probably like a bummer for your parents.

Parents, yeah.

But when you meet the right person and you bring the right person home, like I think it won't be so difficult to convince everyone.

Yeah, and I think the fact that you've come to the realization that you don't want kids, like you're free to do literally whatever the fuck you want.

And I think you should just listen to the song Who You Love by John Mayer because it's really like you love who you love, who you love, who you love.

So whoever you're attracted to, that's who you want to be with.

It's your life.

Like you got to be happy.

Yeah.

You know?

Yeah.

I think it's okay.

Agreed.

Next up.

This sounds like a book, though, like something Colleen Hoover would write, you know?

That you would read.

All right.

hello.

That I would read, yes.

Claudia and Jackie, how you dern?

I'm seeking advice about a

proposal disclosure.

My husband's best friend of many years and the best man in our wedding has not told us that he got engaged on New Year's Eve.

Here's some context.

He and my husband were very close throughout high school and college.

We've met his girlfriend several times over the past three-ish years, and we really like her.

They recently moved back to our hometown where we no longer live, so there's some geographical distance between all of us.

We saw them over the summer, and the best man told my husband that he had bought a ring and was waiting for the right time to propose.

Well, after New Year's, I was snooping around on Instagram and I saw through someone else that he had proposed.

I thought my husband would like to hear the news from his friend directly, so I didn't say anything, assuming that he would text him within a few days.

Neither of them are very active on social media.

Well, now it's been a month.

I know that if I tell my husband, he'll be hurt that his best friend didn't tell him himself.

I don't think that they've texted in the past month, but they are in a somewhat active group chat with some other friends, so I'm surprised it hasn't come up.

Should I just tell him and get it over with so he can congratulate the couple, or do I continue to wait it out in fake surprise when he finds out another Am I wrong to think that this is shady?

Sincerely, the second-hand offended wife.

Okay, first of all, it is shady, but it's also weird you haven't told your husband.

Like, just tell him.

Yeah, just tell him, be like, Hey, I was on social media.

You see, so-and-so got engaged.

Because also, say, when I mean, it's weird that Jackie can tell you also.

It's weird that he hasn't.

What is that?

I didn't say that.

That's what you just said.

You did.

You were like, just say, hey.

Are you okay?

Jackie, you lit.

Rewind the tapes.

Rewind the tapes.

You literally were like,

are you?

You're she's saying me.

Is there someone in the studio who can

they can't hear, but you are gaslighting me.

Someone check on her.

We'll rewind it.

Continue.

You said it.

Hey.

Okay.

I lost my train of thought, which is that it's weird that the friend hasn't told your husband, but they also don't seem like chatty girly girls, like who, you know, are up each other's butts all the time.

But,

and I'm sure sure eventually he'll tell.

And then like, what are you going to wait three months and pretend to be surprised?

And like in these three months, you knew, like, just say to your husband, oh my God, I saw on social media, so-and-so got engaged.

And then he'll reach out and be like, hey, congratulations.

I don't think it's that.

I think you're applying the standards for female friendship and projecting them onto like your male friends, your husband's friendship with his dudes, like, especially if they're like, don't live near each other.

It's definitely not like

super normal that he didn't tell him, but it's not like the craziest thing.

I I think it's weirder that you didn't tell him.

Yeah, it's not super normal, but it's not the craziest thing.

And I think, you know, you can put this to bed really easily and in a very benign way by just being like, hey, I saw this.

You should like send him a text.

Honestly, you do sound like a pot stirrer, like trying to make drama where there's not.

No, you're looking for stuff.

You're looking for drama.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, you're a stuff starter.

Who is it?

Who is it?

Hello, have we met?

All right.

Third and final, dear toasters.

Again, if you've written us in recently and we've given you sound, sage, or terrible advice, update us.

It's not nice.

You guys leave us hanging.

Like, you take our good advice and then ride off into the sunset.

Hello, Jackie and Claudia.

First off, congratulations on everything the two of you have going on.

Jackie, you'll be the most incredible mom to LC.

And Claudia, my friends have told me your show is hysterical.

Why haven't you come?

Your friends have told you?

Maybe it hasn't hit her town yet.

I'm writing in because something happened that I still can't wrap my mind around and definitely cannot bring it up to my therapist.

She'll think I'm insane.

I've had a crush on a co-worker of mine for months.

The only problem is he's married.

I know that's bad, but hey, I'm never going to act on it right, so what's the harm?

Or so I thought.

A few weeks back, he and I were alone at a hotel bar on a work trip when things started to get a little flirty.

Next thing I know, Drunk Me decides to tell this man that I think he's hot and haven't been able to get the thought of him out of my mind.

I assumed he would just laugh it off, but no, this man, straight face, offers a threesome with him and his wife.

I assumed it was just the Casamigos talking, so I laughed and changed the subject.

The next day, it was as if nothing happened, so I just went on with my life thinking he had forgotten about that drunken part of our conversation.

I was wrong.

This morning, in the office, he pulled me aside to let me know that his offer still stands and that his wife loves the idea.

I told him I'd think about it and get back to him.

Do I do it?

I mean, this man is literally my ultimate crush.

Also, how the hell would someone turn that down without making things awkward?

I should also add to the fact that I've never had a threesome before, not that I'm not totally open to the idea, just no one's ever offered it up until now.

Rude?

Let me know and I'll definitely report back.

Oh yeah, if you don't report back on this one, I'll kill you.

Sincerely, a turned on but not wanting to lose my job toaster.

I just want to say one thing

before we give advice.

Not wanting it to be awkward in the office is not a reason not to turn him down.

Like if you don't want to do it, you don't feel comfortable, turn him down.

Yeah, and I spoiler alert.

I think it's going to be more awkward if you do it and then go back to the office.

It's awkward no matter how you slice it, but at the end of the day, do what you want to do, not because you're worried about anything.

Also,

you're a toaster who doesn't want to lose your job.

I mean, I don't, I can't imagine how you would lose your job over this if you are, if he asked you and you're consenting.

It's up to you.

I think you should do it.

I don't think you should do it.

I think you should do it.

You know what?

There are some moments in life where you just have to do it.

Unless

do it for the plot.

Do it for the story.

Like, I think you sound like a fun-loving, cool gal.

As long as everyone is consenting and everyone's been tested and you're being safe.

You know what?

Have a little fun.

She said she's not opposed to the idea of a threesome.

So like, try it out.

Life is about adventure, experience.

Do it.

No, I mean.

I don't think you should do it.

And I can't imagine if I were you, like, and I'm also an extremely like awkward in the workplace person.

So I can't imagine like having a threesome with someone and then then like seeing them around.

I personally would have to leave the job.

So if you said, you know, you're looking for other jobs anyway and like on your way out, you want to do a threesome, I, I could consent to that for you.

But

I think this is bad news bears.

I actually have a really good suggestion.

Um, I think you should tell them that if you're, if you do want to do it, I think you should tell them be like, I'm really down, but I think we should wait until either one of us is going to leave or get a new job until we do it.

So be like, it's like a tentative yes.

Be like, yes, but when the time comes for me to leave this job or for you to leave this job, then I think we should do it.

Because I just don't think we should like set ourselves up for like awkward intra-office communications.

So, like, it's a yes, but a hold.

Yes, but like, people stay at their jobs for years, and then what we're just like walking around the office knowing we have like a threesome hanging over our heads.

Still weird.

It's

literally a Tessa Bailey novel.

It's a Tessa Bailey novel.

It doesn't matter how you slice it.

Things are awkward now.

But do whatever you want.

I'm just saying, if it were me, I could not do it and continue to like work with this person.

No way, no.

Let me say, I'm a big talker.

If it were me, I would literally run and get a new job and start a new life and join the witness protection program.

But

I'm disassociated from this and I'm just like hearing, like, you know what?

But at the end of the day, none of what we're saying matters.

If you want to do it or if you don't want to do it, like you need to decide that within yourself, if this is something you want to do.

And if you do, I like my idea of saying yes, but only once one of us is getting ready to leave this company because we we cannot walk around every day like knowing what we know.

Yeah.

And it sounds to me like you want to do it, but you're just worried about like the awkwardness that's going to happen later.

And I'm here, I'm here as the awkwardness on your shoulder telling you, don't fucking do it.

It's not worth the big cloud of awkwardness.

That's what I'm saying.

Also, maybe we can have other toasters chime in who have had threesomes.

Like, are they awkward?

Is it something that like is so amazing that it'll be worth all the awkwardness?

Or it'll be like something that like wasn't even that great sexually.

And then you have to to put up with all the awkwardness in the office for the rest of your life.

Well, I think, I think like that part could go either way, but it's the fact that like you're sleeping with someone who you work with, which even if you were two single people, like to just sleep together once and then like go into work every single day, like I would find that to be really awkward.

But knowing that like you slept with someone and like he's married and there's no like romantic thing happening here, but like we've seen each other's bits and we've been extremely intimate, like that's just a lot to like have in the back of your head while you're trying to type up the end of your sales report.

No, I agree, Jackie, but at the end of the day, like I also think like maybe we're overthinking this.

And like sometimes you just have to be crazy, like, you know, like crazy.

And I think that this is one of those moments.

I don't think we're overthinking this.

I really, I think this is, this is big stuff.

I think you should do it.

I think so.

But maybe, you know, maybe I'm prude.

Maybe I'm wrong.

No, you're not pruding.

It's being a deal.

It's another Tuesday.

No, no, no.

You're not being prude.

You're being prudent.

You know, Like, there's a lot to think about here.

And I would love to hear other toasters chime in on what they think.

That's today's podcast title.

Prude vs.

I agree.

I agree.

I agree with you.

I want to hear what other people have to say.

And if you've had threesome, like we are honestly ill-equipped to answer this.

So maybe someone with more experience in the comments can let us know.

So that was dear toasters.

Thank you to everyone who bravely wrote in.

Of course, we'll be doing this after Jackie gets back from maternity leave.

So that was our final one for a while.

But still, if anything awkward happens to you in the next month, write us an email, deartoasters at gmail.com.

Mm-hmm.

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So, Jackie,

I want to hear your

like rundown of what you think of all the castmates.

Okay, give me a name and I'll tell you my thoughts.

Kyle and Amanda.

Okay, so many thoughts.

First of all, I...

They are married now, and it seems like they've like obviously worked out whatever what was going on while they're filming, but I am just going to try and go off of what I see on TV.

And I also feel like Kyle is one of these people who it's like, there's Kyle the person, and then there's Kyle the reality star.

And I'm sure, like, you know, in the months where they're not filming, their relationship is a lot more stable.

And they definitely have their issues still like any other couple, but they, the show is such a big part of their life.

It's such a big part of their business.

And he, like, I can see how he like struggles to deal with all of those things.

So I'm only commenting on Kyle, the reality star, because that's what I see and that's what I know.

But it is painful to watch.

Not only is he so wrong in his mistreatment of Amanda, who is like the sweetest, most patient person, and like he's fucked up in the past.

And the fact that like

he's getting impatient that she's like bringing up her cheating trauma, it's like, no, no, no, that's part of the fact that she stayed with you is that this stays with her and this is a part of your relationship.

Even taking out the cheating, if your man is going, is staying at the bar once everybody else has left and is not coming home until 4 a.m.

and he is so fucking drunk, like cheating or otherwise,

that is not fiancé behavior.

This man is like 40 years old and it's, I agree.

It's like the alcohol is really ruining his life and his relationship and he can't even see it.

And then to come home and not even be contrite about the fact that like you're acting like a frat boy, but to put it on her that like she's overreacting when I actually felt like she was underreacting, I wouldn't have ever spoken.

Like I literally would have never spoken to him again, ever.

Manipulative.

Especially after like seeing his reaction.

It's not like he came in and was like, oh my gosh, I'm so sorry.

Like, I'm not going to do it again.

He came in and was being an asshole.

Like, I can't believe she even puts up with that.

Like, she's a much more patient person than I could be, but she also really loves him.

And just walking away from the relationship isn't really an option for her.

Unless like it absolutely has to be, but it's, it's a last resort.

It's not something she's just always like, I'm going to go.

So I have a lot of respect for her, but she also, like, in these first few episodes, she just seems so sad.

Like even when she was crying on her birthday because she felt like a burden to everyone and no one wanted to celebrate her, it's like

it's, it's weird because being engaged is like supposed to be the happiest time of your life, but it's actually like the most stressful.

It's the worst.

So like you see this person and they're like, you don't seem happy.

Why are you getting married?

But it's like, it's just the worst.

Like three months before your wedding is just like.

And I can't imagine that on top of, you know, filming the show, like all of the drinking culture and like everything that comes along with it.

It's a really like toxic environment, and she's not a toxic person, so it's just a lot to navigate.

And my heart goes out to her, but I also can see how like they ended up together.

But while I'm watching it right now, I'm like, girl, leave.

But also, their business is tied together.

It's not that simple.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, um, okay, Paige and Sierra.

Queens, queens, queens, queens, queens, looks, friendship, queens, queens, queens, queens, positivity, queens, like

queens.

The two of, yeah, there.

I couldn't say a bad word if I wanted to.

I just, I love their friendship.

I love their style.

I, they're both, like, they stay like above the drama, but they're both interesting.

And I like that, like, they're both single and ready, ready, ready, and willing and able to mingle.

They are a joy to watch.

Um, Danielle and Lindsay.

I'll start with Lindsay because everything that Lindsay does is then followed by Danielle.

Um, literally.

Lindsay is someone who, like, I don't, don't feel like would be my type of person because she's very like,

she's a lot.

She has Claire Crawley chaotic energy.

She really, really does, but she also has like, it seems, um,

like a very big heart and she can be like a softy.

And I feel like she tries to, especially this season, I don't know what she's like, what her overall story is, but like this season, you know, knowing that last month she had a miscarriage, it's like she

obviously leads with like just being fun and like, I'll deal with that when it's time to deal with it.

But you can tell there's like a sadness there.

And

I just like my heart, I want her to find happiness and joy, but just like being like, you know, I'm going to go to Mexico this week and we're going to go see the Greek next, it's just a lot.

And she's not like my kind of person in general, but I have, I'm warming up to her very quickly.

Yeah.

So I've like, I've watched.

last season and then like sporadically since the beginning and I didn't like her in the beginning and she's grown grown on me so much.

She's she's definitely a, you know, unique, not everyone's cup of tea gal, but she's just like a fun-loving queen.

And for the most part, she's like a good friend to everyone.

And I actually really like her now.

Um, but it did take me a little to get used to.

She's just like, she's really not like other girls.

I don't, I don't know who I would compare her to.

She's different.

So she takes a little bit.

And now, knowing that her and Carl are like so in love makes me so happy for both of them.

And Carl, I just want to say, is like a king.

And I've actually seen like past seasons where he's been like the fuckboy

and like really awful behavior.

And it's just like sobriety is so attractive on

people, most people.

Like, and I'm just him like having his morning meditation and his run and like AA meetings and being sober is actually like, I think a really good foil to the rest of the show that it can be a lot to watch.

I mean, all of the drinking.

There's so much alcohol consumption.

And it's like, and then you forget.

And it always reminds me of Jersey Shore where it's like, that's what I was just going to say.

Oh my my God.

The chemical effects of alcohol, like, it's a lot.

Like, the moral hangover, the anxiety that comes along with it, the things that you do that, like, you wouldn't have normally done.

And I do think that, like, I'm sure, you know, the idea of being sober on a show about drinking isn't like, doesn't sound like the best idea, but I think it, it

adds like a very

good balance, exactly, to the show.

And he, to me, is like the most attractive one of them all.

I mean, they're all so attractive.

Okay, now wait, go back.

You didn't, you skipped Danielle.

I skipped Danielle.

Sorry.

Okay.

I was trying to avoid like, I'm just, I agree.

I'm not here.

I'm not enjoying it.

I'm not enjoying, I'm not receiving what she's giving.

No, and she just like follows Lindsay around and she's also in love with Kyle.

I don't know if anybody has received that.

I said that.

Okay, I know when like the last time I recapped Summerhouse, you weren't listening because like you don't watch a show.

I literally said like she's such a pick-me.

Like all the girls are like fawning over Amanda.

Like, oh my God, are you okay?

Are you going to get married?

You have this piece of paper like there's a lot of real shit going on and she's like hugging kyle at the pool like it's weird yeah it's weird and then also like even in the way she was talking about amanda like at the july 4th party amanda was like you know living her best life dancing whatever and she was like talking about her in a way that was like very backhanded you know like uh jealous

yeah like just trying to make her like look bad but also while not being explicitly bitchy about talking about her.

It was just, I think that she is in love with Kyle and also the stuff like of her relationship.

It's so funny when people are like,

I mean, I guess everybody does this, but she's like, We're getting married, he's the one, you know, we've been together a year, we're living together, things are perfect, amazing, like, couldn't be better.

This is forever.

He shows up, and immediately they're fighting.

Literally, even though you can't get along for two seconds, Robert is a P jom.

Like, we were introduced to him last season.

He's such like a team player.

All the guys love him.

He comes as much as he can, cooks for everyone.

He's just so weedy.

Like, he's a p-jom.

So, like

if they're fighting like i have to assume it's danielle's fault oh that's so interesting because i was just gonna assume like i don't know robert from adam so i was just gonna assume like robert's not being there for her in the way that she needs him to be but that's no very good as far as i know like he's a p-jom

Okay, very, very good to know.

And other than that, she's just like up Lindy's butt.

She's just always up someone's butt.

And it's like, it's like boring.

Yeah, agreed.

I want to talk about Maya because there's, she's kind of like fallen through the cracks, but I do feel like there's a lot there.

And I think that she's becoming friendly with Sierra and Paige.

But she does like talk to the group next week and start crying.

And I don't know what she's talking about, but I kind of feel like she feels like an outsider.

Like, I don't think anyone has really made like an enormous effort to get to know her or include her.

And then like the final straw was when Lindsay was like, you can't come.

Yeah.

Oh my gosh.

Which is so rude.

Why would Danielle come?

Danielle has a boyfriend.

Maya doesn't.

Two single girls going out on a Saturday night in the Hamptons.

1,000%.

And where are you going that you can bring one person, but you can't bring two people?

She went to a bar, Jackie.

They went to the place where they were at during the day because Lindsay was going to see the bartender and he was working all night.

She was like, I promise I'll come back here.

So it's a public venue.

Got it.

I missed the first 20 minutes.

So I missed that.

I thought maybe she was going to like some house party or whatever.

No, they went to a pool party.

It was like, looked so pathetic.

And because they're really not allowed to film at a lot of places.

So this place that they went to, I've actually been there before.

It's like a restaurant.

It's a hotel.

And they go, they go to the restaurant.

They keep reciting it's like different places.

Where is it?

What is it?

I think it's, I know one of the restaurants is called something with a C.

I just ate there this summer.

It's like random in Southampton.

But they have like a pool party and they had like a violinist.

It was like very low energy and you could tell nobody was having a good time.

But so they were there during the day for a pool party.

Then they left and had dinner at home that Maya cooked that looks so good.

And then Lindsay went back because she had been flirting with the bartender and she promised him she would come back.

And so she brought Danielle, who has a boyfriend.

And why can't you bring two people to literally a club?

A public venue.

A completely agreed.

Now, thank you for that context.

Yes, I had a lot of thoughts about Maya because in the beginning, it was like she was slipping through the cracks.

But then I was starting to feel like everyone on this show, you know, has been, even if they came on last season or the season before, like, they're very much a part of the cast.

To bring on like one new person,

I guess that other guy is new too.

And we'll.

Well, it's happening with both of them.

Like, the guys, I don't know.

I haven't seen one person talk to him.

Okay with it.

It's like he has really sheltered himself with like his turkey and his protein and his

food shaming.

Like what the fuck was that?

No, that's a whole nother conversation.

But I was actually thinking like it must be really hard to come onto a show like this as just a completely new person and have to forge connections with everyone when everybody's already connected and they're not as like they don't have it as a priority for them to like get to know you.

And I feel like she's actually doing a really good job.

Like she'll, she went to the brewery with that

random group.

Random group of people who aren't even the friends that she came with.

And I feel like even as a viewer, every week we're getting to know her more and I'm really liking her personality.

But like, this is, it's a very taxing, like, social experiment to come into a house in general, like a share house like this, not filmed, is a lot.

Filmed is a lot.

To come in with people who are all like celebrities now and best friends and like is so much.

So I think she's doing a great job, but I...

But I think she's having a hard time.

And if she weren't having a hard time, I, that would be surprising.

So I think that's what she like sits the group down.

I think maybe she wants to leave and then they keep her and then she ends up being like a lifelong sister.

I don't know.

But I think that's, I think that has to be what she's talking about because when Lindsay was just so rude, like, can I come?

No.

Like, excuse me.

So hurtful.

So hurtful.

And then there's the Andrea, Craig, and Paige of it all.

Obviously, Craig and Paige are so OTP.

Andrea's cute and I know he likes Paige and I think he has good intentions, but it's just not their time.

Agreed.

And I mean, watching Craig and Paige roll out, it's definitely like, it's not as seamless as I thought it was going to be.

It's not a fairy tale.

And,

but I mean, that's real life.

So that's fine.

But it really is so interesting.

And how Paige like just wants to like be single and just has this like idea.

And that's always what happens.

It's like, I'm going to be single for a year, but like, what about, what if love comes at you at eight months?

You know, I know, but think about it.

You're like, think about it.

I need four more months.

I'm thinking about it.

Think about it.

You're Paige.

You got famous like two, three years ago.

Like it's really fresh.

You're so stunning.

You're literally like an eligible bachelor at Socialite of New York.

Would you want to settle down?

No, you'd want to have fun for like a few years and then ultimately settle down.

So I just don't think she was expecting this great love so soon after her most recent breakup.

Yeah, I guess.

I would love to know like more about her dating life in general.

And also, it's like when she's single during this time, is she really only seeing Craig and Andrea?

Or are there other people?

Maybe there are people who are like even more eligible, interesting, famous than Craig, even.

The thing is, I love Craig.

And I can't tell if Paige is only mad that he's hooking up with someone because she's famous.

And isn't it interesting how they cut Cavalieri out of the whole thing?

They just keep calling her.

Claudia.

So for the first two episodes, I was like, oh, some girl named Kristen from

Charleston is in a triangle.

Like, I didn't put it together for

so long.

No, I just thought it was like a random girl, like

random, random.

Then I put it it together that it was kristen cavalari and i was so shook and it brings well first of all so the question is this whole time that they were all hanging out and like being friends and weird like

which one of them was she hooking up with if either and now the answer is craig

is it yeah

okay but then That's so crazy because of the whole Madison LaCroix J.

Cutler thing.

It's like that was a nothing burger then.

They weren't, it wasn't even about Austin.

No.

So I have, when all those rumors were swirling and they were all like weirdly hanging out, I just assumed it was Austin hooking up with Kristen Cavalieri.

Yeah.

And we all did.

But that, and that's why like last week's episode was such a bombshell because Lindsay was the one who got it out of Craig.

No, it was actually Craig the whole time.

But, okay, I, I was, when I was looking for articles this morning, I saw page six where

Amanda Batula like did an interview where she like alluded to the fact that there's a chance that Craig is like lying about hooking up with Kristen.

Yeah.

Just to make Paige jealous.

Yeah.

Like so that's a possibility too.

Craig is very charming.

Like he's not conventionally like

what everyone like he's just like different and I he's like kind of nerdy.

I could see him being by the way I'm sitting right now with my sewing down south pillows.

I could see like him pulling Kristen Cavalier.

I could.

No, me too, but it's like, did he or didn't he?

And now if he's like lied about it, that's also weird.

Uh, it's a very interesting dynamic.

And also, when Paige was like, It's not, I think if it was any other like random girl, like, she doesn't know, she doesn't care.

But the fact that, like, now she's in this public love triangle and it's like Kristen, it's just who wants that.

But then, when Paige is like, you put me in this love triangle, I didn't want to be in.

It's like, Paige already was in a love triangle herself with Andrea and Craig.

So, it's really like it's

a mirror image, honestly, except for that.

Andrea's in the house with them and like she's like canoodling with him every weekend.

But that's why you can't just like

when she said that was her idea to not be expressive.

When she said, if Andrea finds out about Craig, like that's not my problem.

No, it's literally only your problem.

Yours and yours only.

And now it's becoming a problem.

And you can't avoid like these things.

Whatever.

It's nice to know that they become a couple soon because they go to Paige and Amanda, not Paige and Amanda, Amanda and Kyle's wedding as dates.

Yeah.

But then in the last night's episode, like Paige hooks up with Andrea.

Yeah, which like was dumb, but I get the point she was trying to make.

Yeah, she's fed up.

Yeah, but like, I just feel salt.

Like, I don't even need to like nitpick this whole thing.

Like, I feel peace knowing that they end up together.

Like, no matter how they get there, like, I honestly don't care.

Yeah, no, they are so stinking cute.

I just, I want more of the love and less of the drama because, I mean, my ship is just.

So it's a good show, right yeah it is really good and the um the cast of characters are good the house and the kitchen is so nice and like they keep it nice and clean and I saw the inside of the fridge and it didn't worry me even though Alex and all of his man meets are like coming through he and they obviously they go back to the city every Sunday and they have a cleaning service come to the house so they could only make it so disgusting every three days Yeah, no, so that works for me.

And just like this man's commitment to fitness, like it is his like relationship and he has no time for anything else and he's gonna have to he's kind of boring up yeah no he's got to loosen up he's like married to the fitness life and you've got like

how do you go on a date with someone even if you're like worried about getting two

terms of protein you know like yeah a hundred percent

So honestly, I just now my mindset is like, I'm worried about Paige and Craig and I'm worried about Maya.

Like I really want her to like, I do feel bad for her.

It's a hard dynamic and I just want her to like be happy because she seems like a really nice, cute girl.

Yeah.

So, I'm curious to see what next week is about.

Uh, and hopefully,

hopefully, they end on a good note, and we get more paige and Craig.

He needs, like, he just should be on the cast.

I can't deal with, like, what weekend is Craig coming.

Craig needs to be there every weekend.

Hugreid.

It's really crazy to see him like out of his, like, and we said this about Winter House too, but, like, I feel like on Southern Charm, he's always the butt of the joke.

It's like Craig.

But now, like, Craig comes to the Hamptons and it's like, oh my God, Craig's here.

Like, just that big movie star.

Everything's coming up, Craig.

Everything's always been coming up, Craig.

Like, lest we never forget that Craig has consistently been on the right side of history on Southern Charm.

And I'm so glad that he's getting his just desserts and the justice that like he's been seeking now that he's able to, like, we're able to see him on a show where he's able to thrive and not be under like Shep and Whitney's boot.

100%.

Also, it just like shocks me when I think back to like Naomi and Craig and how dearly I shipped.

And now like Naomi is on Southern Charm again and they are filming or they just rapped.

They've been filming.

Naomi's there.

Like Paige goes down.

Like Naomi,

I could see Naomi and Paige like being friends.

And I don't think Naomi like would ever.

No, Paige on Watch Rapids Live said that like while they're not like friends, they follow each other on Instagram and like Paige thinks she's really cute.

They're not like, but this was a while.

This was like a couple months ago.

So maybe since then, they've gotten close.

Yeah.

It's just like, it's just so crazy how things change.

Yeah.

You know?

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