S4 Ep158: A Very Erotic Hump Day: Wednesday, September 8th, 2021

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Welcome back to the show.

Happy hump day!

Starting the week with a hump day, the work week for us with a hump day.

It's an amazing feeling.

It rarely happens.

It rarely happens.

And also it rarely, the last episode we did was on Friday where we were literally scraping the bottom of the barrel for something somewhat interesting to discuss.

Little did we know, all we had to do was take off two days, Monday and Tuesday, for Labor Day in Rosh Hashanah, to come on Wednesday with the juiciest show we've had in a while.

Yeah, there's so much to talk about and it's really exciting to have things in which to talk about and some really like exciting news that I feel personally invested in.

Yeah, there's a lot going on.

First layers, obviously, all the celebrity news that happened in the last three days, like literally all last night just so fucking crazy yeah two

i watched the most television i've ever watched in my life over the holiday and over the weekend because i didn't do anything over the weekend and i cannot wait to discuss things we both watched things i just watched and the tv recap is quaking the tv recap is quaking and i just have three words the demilio show the motherfucking demilio show

and by the way just programming like we don't have time for dear toasters today like we have so much

dear toasters is on tuesday but we're not gonna skip it this week No, no, we're just, it's going to be on Tuesday.

Tuesday's on a slower day.

No, but it's like when we do, when we miss a TV recap that was supposed to be, like, we don't then recap it the next day.

Like, it just, it's on its day.

You mean we're going to wait till next Tuesday for Dear Toasters?

Yeah, I do.

I don't know if the Toasters would be too pleased to hear about this.

I think that it's in line with our stance on other issues.

We'll see.

We'll talk about it after at our strategizing meeting.

And then third, where was I?

Celebrity news, TV.

I'm excited to talk about.

And you have something to talk to me about, you said.

I do.

Is that the third thing?

No, but thank you for reminding me.

The third thing is that we also were a part of all the drama last night because we dropped a Patreon episode with the biggest fucking bomb.

in our family's legacy.

And that's saying a lot, okay?

Like we were saying last night, like this is the craziest episode I think we'll ever record.

And I personally like was not being clickbait, exaggerating.

I was not lying.

Like when I think about like the news that we could share, like this is one of the craziest things that we've shared.

Because if you know us us as a family which most of you do like it's wild it's wild so the new podcast is up we dropped it last night it's on our patreon patreon is our subscription service you guys know seven dollars and 99 cents a month gets you five extra episodes and it gets you early access to the juiciest drops like last night we were in the studio with a third person who dropped a truth bomb and that's all i'll say yeah

Now the thing I wanted to talk to you about.

Great.

So you recommended me this book.

Okay.

No, no, let me finish.

I just want to let everyone know, it's the book I've been saying that's a sweet rom-com that's extremely porny.

It is not a rom-com, it is literally erotica, okay?

Let me just say that.

Okay.

And so you kept calling me yesterday, like,

did you read more?

Did you read more?

And I was very involved in this TV show, which I'll talk about in the TV recap.

So I didn't read more.

Okay.

And I could not sleep last night just because I've had five days off.

I've been like sleeping till noon.

So I was like really off.

Ben is snoring away.

And I'm like, you know what?

I could read.

And I read two chapters.

I'm about like maybe almost 70% of the way through it.

What's the book called again?

It Happened One Summer by Tessa Bailey.

Everyone, every time I say it's the raunchy porn book, everyone's like, wait, what was that again?

It is pornography.

Like, I was shook that you read this book.

And I was wondering why, like, you were calling me so much, like, asking if I read the book.

Like, who fucking cares?

And then I finished, I think it's chapter 19.

And I was cackling in my bed, understanding why you were calling me, asking if I read the book, because spoiler alert, she puts her finger up her boyfriend's butt.

Is that what you were referring to?

I wasn't waiting for anything in particular.

I just wanted to, like, one, when I recommend a book to someone, like, I'd like to know how it's going.

I knew that you were reading a lot this weekend.

Yeah.

So I just wanted to know if like things were in line with, you know, how I said they would be.

So you weren't waiting for me to see the finger in the bum?

No, like to me, there was like so much, you know,

stuff happening in every scene that not one thing, not one stuff like stuck out, stood out out of me.

Not one finger?

Not one finger.

Okay, because like I finished a chapter and I was cackling it because it was all coming together.

Like that's probably why you were calling me.

That's a fucking crazy thing to happen in the book.

Like it's an insane fucking book.

I just, and by the way, I like it.

I can't believe you read it and liked it.

Okay, so I read it because Sinitch almost chose it for the Redheads.

Thank the Lord that she did it.

Yes.

You guys couldn't really have like an intellectually stimulating conversation.

No.

And I I was surprised by how much I liked it, considering it's so porny, it's so IA.

And I think that the love story is like really there.

Don't you?

I think so, too.

It gives me this, like, the vibe of like, people like joke about Twilight, but like, we really know, like, Twilight is a true love story.

Like, and they are both some of the most talented actors in the business.

And people are like, oh, Twilight.

Like, I agree with you.

It's like a silly book, but the love between Brendan, spoiler alert.

And Piper is real.

Right.

So that's why I recommend it to everyone because I think it's a nice book, but it's also also like an embarrassing on my part.

I was going to say, don't you feel weird recommending it?

I feel extremely weird.

That's why I can't say like it happened one summer by Testabelle without being like, it is extremely raunchy and porny.

You're not selling it.

It's erotica, like period.

No, but here's the thing.

They probably can't sell it in bookstores.

Here's the thing.

We were talking about it with Snitch at Rosh Hashanah, and I need her to read it because all the books that she reads are raunch porn.

And I want to know if this book is more than usual or is it just another book in the life of Snitch?

Well, I feel like I read a good amount of erotica because I read so much Colleen Hoover.

And like, she really, it puts so much unnecessary porn in her books.

And I could tell you definitively that this book is the most erotic.

I think I've never read 50 Shades, but I think it's up there.

I agree.

If not.

I agree.

But Snitch reads like all these books.

She read 50 Shades.

Is this just another day in the life for Snitch?

So also for the toasters and readers out there, please read this book and let us know what you think.

Where does it rank on the porn scale?

So, like, for you, it's a 10, it's the porniest book you've ever read.

Yes, I would think for me too.

I have to like think back to things that I've read, but I would think for me too, yes.

Yeah, like you know, it's bad.

Well, not bad, but like, it's high on the porn list when the author refers to a woman's vagina as her sex.

Oh, well, also, the P-word.

Oh, by the way, oh, we talked about that on Russia Sean and not at the

podcast.

This book said the P-word, pussy.

And I was so shook, by the way, when I was, I read two chapters last night, said it again.

Might have even said it three times.

Yeah, no, the author comes out big and bold with the word pussy.

It's shocking to see it on your Kindle, you know?

You can click on it and get it done.

Highlight.

So I spent a lot of the weekend watching TV.

I'm also almost through that book.

I really like it.

Like, it's very sweet.

I'm not trying to rush through it.

It's shocking.

Like, it's the level of porn, like, it's just a lot for like the book, the content of the book.

But I want to know from other readers who read mostly YA, which is also synonymous with erotic.

What do you think?

It Happened One Summer by Tessa Bailey, and it's also just a good book.

It is, it's cute.

And then other things, we're going to dive into the TV recap, but we both watched the D'Amelio show.

Last night I finished Clickbait, which was like everyone's obsessed with.

And I have a lot of thoughts.

And I don't know if you'd like it, but it was pretty good.

I also watched Only Murders in the Building.

Okay, and I watched, I spent a lot of time on Hulu.

I watched some of Nine Perfect Strangers, and I just, I have a lot of thoughts on everything, especially the D'Amelio show.

I know that you and I are really on the same page about that, so that will be in our TV recap.

But before that, like, there's so much to do, there's so much to do, and I watched Cinderella.

Oh, yes!

So, I'll let everyone know what I thought about it.

I watched a sneak peek.

I watched Shrek 4.

I thought it was incredibly dark, and like, I don't know what the campers are

doing.

Like, I hadn't, I've never seen Shrek 4 because

the storyline didn't even ring a bell.

And it was just a lot of, like,

it was, it was hard.

There was like an ogre revolution.

Like, it's insane.

An ogre-rush?

Yeah, like, it was crazy.

No, Shrek 4 is, like, the...

personification of like too much of a good thing.

Yeah, but they also like did a pretty good job, but it was just like too dark, like rumple, still skin, like, is an animal.

Anyways.

What else did I watch?

Damilios?

Cinderella.

I think that's it.

If anything else comes to me, I'll let you know.

I finished my book.

Epidems took me forever.

I wouldn't really recommend.

Could have been an article.

This is a meeting that could have been an email.

A book that could have been an article.

Yeah.

Okay, well, I feel like we should just dive in because it's like killing me not to talk about certain things.

So

without further ado, it is time for the fast five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast.

Before we dive in, I have a very funny do story.

Last night was the second night of the first night after Arif of Rush Hashanah and me and Ben had the Rosh Hashanah meal with his family.

And, you know, Theo just like was running amok, like living his life.

And then we get home and we're laying in bed and I'm like smelling something.

And I'm like, do you smell matzo ball soup?

And Ben's like, yeah, I do.

And we're like sniffing around, like, where's the soup?

And literally, Theo's ears sopping wet.

It smelled like dill, you know, the smell of like matzo ball soup.

I have no idea how it got in there, but like no one was really paying attention to him when we were at dinner.

So we must have just like run into the kitchen, maybe hopped on the counter and like drank some soup.

Good for him.

He just wanted to celebrate.

Yeah.

He's such a good Jewish boy.

He's son.

And like of everything he could have snagged.

Some soup.

The soup.

Good of the soul.

So sweet.

That's a good thing.

He probably still smells.

I didn't watch it.

It's a beautiful story.

It was a stunning moment.

Okay.

Of Yiddish kite and spirituality and ruach in our family.

Yes.

And so now without further ado, like we won't dilly-dally any longer before we let you know that pregnant Kylie Jenner is showing off her baby bump for the first time in a new video posted to her Instagram confirming the rumors are true deleted

and that Kylie is pregnant.

Kylie is pregnant part two.

No, this isn't surprising just because like there have been all these theories and if you're like in the know and you watch TikTok like you knew that she probably might have been pregnant.

I'm glad that she was able to tell on her own terms.

I do feel like all these conspiracy theories like probably pushed up her announcement date slightly.

I do feel sad like I don't know I just like hate that we live in this world like where people just can't announce their own pregnancy.

But then, you know, I did, you know, fall down in a small rabbit hole on TikTok this morning, like people thinking Kylie's already given birth

because in one of the videos, Stormy is wearing like

Christmas pajamas.

So like if the timeline were to add up, I don't fucking know.

I could just see Stormy being like sort of chaotic about when she celebrates her holidays.

And like Kylie, of course, would never do that, but she would allow Stormy to because she wants Stormy to be happy.

I don't think that's true because like for a few months, especially in the beginning of the year, like Kylie was like always with her friends

in 1942, going to the beach, like crazy stuff.

That's true.

So I think I saw one thing, like a comment or something that said based on her manicures in the videos and like

timing that she's probably due in December.

That'd be crazy.

That'd be crazy.

And I just want to say, like,

it means something to me to be pregnant at the same time as Kylie.

Of course.

What are you, a monster?

I don't know.

Like, I don't know if people would think that these things matter.

It matters.

I am just, like, over the moon.

Do you feel even better about your decision to get knocked up now?

100%.

And just like, what a great, fabulous pregnancy, buddy.

And so I guess she would be like two months ahead of me.

I'm hoping maybe she's like January.

She's just like, um.

Maybe that's like.

TikTokers aren't right.

Maybe those like belly pictures were from yesterday.

And that's why she was waiting to post this video until she had like more belly pics.

And the video was fabulous, by the way.

It was really sweet to the point.

Yes, exactly.

So I just, just like, it's just going to be such a fun journey.

And I was the one who, I did say that I thought that with this pregnancy, Kylie would giving, would be giving us pregnant Kylie comment.

You did say that.

So I'm excited to see that.

And then also like the postpartum journey, I'm excited to like hopefully line up with her and like see where she's at and all these tings.

No, it's stunning.

And the rumors are that she's having a boy just because she's been using like blue heart emojis on stuff, which is like pretty.

I don't know if she would be that option.

Pretty thin.

Yeah.

But then that's also exciting for me.

Totally.

Like maybe our boys.

Our boys could be friends.

Maybe your boys could be boys.

And they would say, we them boys.

What?

We making noise.

That's what the boys would say as they came out of your vagina.

Out of your sex.

Out of your pussy.

No?

It's good to have goals in life, and that's one.

No, it's really fabulous news.

Like, I love, you know what I love?

It's like, there's so many rumors about like Kylie Travis.

Like, Travis has a side bitch.

Like, maybe it's true, but like, they always present a united front.

And I just like love that for them.

Yeah.

no, I really do too and I'm so happy.

I'm happy for Kylie.

Me too.

And I loved the Chris Jenner sonogram moment.

I know, but it's also crazy to me that Kylie waited till her first sonogram, which is usually around like seven, eight weeks in order to share with Chris.

It did feel like they were really surprised.

You think?

Like when she had was in the beginning of the video had the pregnancy test and her and Travis were like, what?

Like I got the vibe that it was like a shock, like it wasn't planned.

Oh.

That's just me.

I don't know, maybe because I've been reading some of the rumors where it's like they've been trying and you know, she wants another baby.

Like, I just assumed that they were trying.

It's possible, but.

So, I just loved it all.

And all the like sisters are so excited for her.

Yes, it's so cute.

It's very, very sweet.

And I love that she's like out and about now, you know?

Like, who knows?

The possibilities for what we can get from Kylie in the next couple of months are endless.

And, you know, I'm really feeling

creatively stymied in terms of pregnancy.

Maternity wear.

Maternity wear, especially at this stage where it's like my clothes like don't really fit like

yeah, my usual clothes, but I'm like when I look at maternity websites, it's for like really big bellies, so I'm just kind of in this in-between phase.

Leggings, leggings, yeah.

Um, so I'm looking to forward to seeing like what Kylie brings to the table, maybe some inspo, because like she should do Kylie

maternity.

I know now that I've been like looking for maternity clothes, and there's some good options.

Like, ASOS has maternity, I just place an order.

Oh, good.

There's hatch that they reach out to me, They're going to send me some tanks.

Fabulous.

There's some cool maternity wear, but like, of course, it's like, there's a gap in the market.

No, there is.

No, but there is, like, for all.

Yeah, but then I'm sure like then you give birth and you forget about the gap and you move on

till the next time.

Of course.

Yeah.

But not everyone like is pregnant and has to look their best on a T on a TV show.

A pop show.

On a TV show.

Yeah, on a world-renowned Peabody Award-winning show.

Agreed.

Not everybody.

So I'm just going to keep going with the things that stretch and then I'll let you guys know.

By the way, that's my department.

Like, if you want to go shopping, just let me know.

I was really close to looking in Zach's closet today.

No.

But it's like, I'm not that big.

Like, that would be really unnecessary.

No, that would just be like, I would actually be concerning if you were at that stage when you're only like three months or four months.

Yeah, but I have been wearing some of his like bottoms to bed because

the waistband starts to get like a little tight.

Oh, by the way, I sleep in Ben Sundays like almost every night.

Oh, clean.

Cool.

Clean.

I assumed.

So happy for Kylie, like, and the whole Jenner family,

the Webster family.

Like, I don't know how Stormy's going to take, you know, being a big sister, no longer a center of attention, having to share the stage.

But it's a part of growing up.

Maybe Stormy was just putting on an act in the video, but she did look really excited.

Yeah, of course.

It's all exciting until someone comes and takes literally all the attention away from you.

Yeah, I don't know.

I feel like Stormy is ready to share.

She must have so much extra attention and so much toys.

Yeah, and that can be

good and bad.

But there's nothing like a friend.

There's nothing like a sister or brother.

Yeah.

Are you ready for our next story, which is a little more pregnancy news?

Olivia Munn is pregnant with John Mulaney's baby.

John Mulaney and Olivia Munn are

expecting

a baby.

The stand-up comedian confirmed the actress's pregnancy news Tuesday on late night with Seth Meyers while discussing his eventful year and their

whirlwind relationship.

He said, Crickets,

we're having a baby together.

I was nervous when I was about to say the news.

I'm going to be a dad.

Obviously, I think it's great welcoming a child into the world.

I don't want to say anything negative about his pregnancy.

A lot of factors at play here.

He announced his divorce four months ago.

Now, of course, we don't know everything.

Maybe they've been unhappy for four years, like not judging the timeline, but I am judging this whole situation.

I'm sorry.

Like, it's just too weird.

Yeah, and a picture emerged of her a few days ago

looking pregnant.

Looking pregnant.

So I guess that maybe is what prompted them to announce the pregnancy.

Yeah, I also do.

And I just want to say, I'm four months pregnant,

and she looks more pregnant than me.

Well, so I do think it's weird that he went on a TV show and gave a timeline of his, like, that's really personal.

Like, sharing the pregnancy update with us is already, like, a wonderful thing.

But

it just felt really personal him giving the timeline, the breakdown, like, sort of like, we didn't do anything wrong.

And I was like, well, I didn't think you did, but now I do.

Yeah, Yeah, he said, I went to rehab in September 2020.

I got out in October.

I moved out of my home for my ex-wife.

I host SNL on Halloween.

I relapsed on drugs, then I continued using drugs.

I went to rehab again, this time for two months.

I got out in February.

I lived in sober living for another month and a half.

Then in the spring, I went to LA and met and started to date a wonderful woman named Olivia.

So it's just weird.

Like, maybe the timeline adds up, but like, it's just,

why do we know that?

Maybe in reality, he

separated from his wife in the fall of 2020.

And now, you know, a year later, they're expecting.

Right.

But from the people's POV, they announced their divorce four months ago.

No, you know what's so weird about the world is like you maybe a year ago, you couldn't tell me that like people would turn on John Mulaney.

Like he is adored.

Like he is the biggest.

Are people turn?

I haven't read.

I think people feel very defensive of his ex-wife, Anna.

Like she was a PJOM.

Like they were such a great couple.

And he also always maintained that he didn't want children.

Oh, is that true yeah he was on comedians in cars getting coffee like and comedy is more personal than food and he said that he didn't want kids not that like never but you know they're just like it wasn't in their plan yeah and they're happy with you know where they're at and oh my god that adds like another like fucked up layer

no the story is so weird and like it's really i know this is terrible and this is just my opinion and i don't want to send any hate to anyone but like this whole storyline makes me hate these two people so much and like just the fact that like we now live in a world where john mulane is like at the center of like some weird ethical scandal is just not what i expected because he's like known as like the PJOM comedian.

Like, everyone loved him and they loved him and his wife.

And, like, I just didn't think this is how

life was going to turn out for John Mulaney.

And now that it has, like, I personally just need to digest that.

Okay.

Take your time.

I'm really not that familiar with him.

So, me neither.

Like, not at all.

Me, this, like,

I'm more, I know Olivia Munn more.

Yeah, no, this is just like,

it's too much.

It's a lot.

But ultimately, happy news for the happy couple.

Maselto.

Maselto.

I just don't.

And like the announcement was really awkward.

Like, maybe there's no one in Seth Meyer's studio.

I don't know if he has a studio audience, but there was like four people clapping and it was just like crickets.

Yeah.

It's too weird.

Like I don't even know how to feel, but I'm just feeling not good.

I'm feeling like...

I'm curious how other people feel.

Like people who actually like and like know and respect his family.

Like, I really don't know anything about him i've never been a fan but i don't know just like after watching the demilio show like i don't want to say anything negative about anyone ever again by the way because you just never fucking know totally like before i watched a millionio show i would have said if i thought about charlie and dixie that they must be like the happiest girls in the world because look at the luck look at their life

and you just never know

you know

but we'll get to that in the tv recap We always do.

Are you ready for our next story?

Yeah.

Britney Spears' father asks the judge to enter conservatorship.

So much news.

In a surprise move, Britney Spears' father asked a judge on Tuesday to end her conservatorship, which would allow the singer unfettered control over her life, her finances, and her health care decisions for the first time in 13 years.

Jamie Spears filed a petition with probate judge Brenda Penny, saying that recent events have shown that she should get that chance to control her own affairs.

Quote,

Ms.

Spears has told this court that she wants control of her life back without the safety rails of a conservatorship.

She wants to be able to make decisions regarding her own medical care, deciding when, where, and how often to get therapy.

She wants to control the money she has made from her career and spend it without supervision or oversight.

Crazy.

She wants to be able to get married and have a baby if she so chooses.

In short, she wants to live her life as she chooses without the constraints of a conservator or court proceeding.

So I just don't feel like his intentions here are pure.

I feel like he's not doing this because he cares about Britney.

Like he cannot take being the most hated man in America now and like the consequences of his actions are catching up with him.

So he's doing this, I think, in an attempt to like appease the public, public, get people off his ass.

Not really because he cares about Brittany, but at the end of the day, the result would be the same.

And I'm obviously thrilled about it.

Okay, I have a few more thoughts about this because

I agree.

He's not just like a benign sort of guy.

Like, oh, okay.

Oh, you didn't like it?

13 years?

Let me fix it.

Yeah.

Oh, sorry.

Oops.

Okay.

But I think, and I remember when all of the trial was happening and Brittany was speaking, like, there are a lot of people who believe that Britney, like, might, we don't know what's going on with Britney people believe that she might need a conservator

but I think the conservatorship that she's been under has been insanely abusive and controlling and I think there was a way for what she wanted was a different conservator and more freedom you know like the way she was living and working and her allowance like and her IUD it's just like nuts nuts so I feel like

I feel like she, there's a chance that she needs a conservator.

Again, we don't know like the medical diagnosis that or, you know, where she's at.

And so, by him, like, say, like, just taking it away completely, it's like he wants to see her, like,

he wants to show everyone.

You know, by the way, the way that thing was worded was definitely patronizing.

Like, all right, she doesn't want anyone to look after her medical care.

Like, no one will look.

Yeah.

You know, I feel what you're saying.

Like, it, it doesn't seem like this is like an actual like white flag surrender.

It's like, all right, fine, you don't want my help?

Don't take it.

Yeah.

It sounded very

bitter.

Yes.

And also, I just, I can't really believe after like 13 years of her, you know, privately probably telling him, like, please stop.

Yeah.

And now publicly that all of a sudden he's he got a change of heart.

So I do think there's something nefarious here going on.

He's trying like a different route.

Color us skeptical.

I am skeptical,

but ultimately, you know, I still think

if it's between being a conserved with Jamie or no conservatorship, obviously.

No conservatorship.

Yeah.

No, it's just like a crazy whirlwind.

I don't know if this petition he submitted will actually get it done, though.

Because it seems like everyone in this case, the judges, like everyone is somehow

being bribed or is involved.

So like no justice ever gets served.

It's like we're like running in circles.

Yeah.

So maybe this is like Jamie like, look, I'm a hero.

Oh, but the judge didn't allow it.

I have to stay.

Yeah.

So I just don't buy any, like until Britney is freed, like I won't buy anything.

I agree.

I'm so skeptical.

And we keep getting these updates that like seem like good updates or seem like big news.

And he's stepping down.

And then it's like, wait, no, he's not.

Did anyone actually read the report?

Like, there's so much fake fucking news.

You're totally right.

So until like she's on her Instagram on IG Live, like saying everything she wants to say, driving in her car on IG Live Live with a, you know, with a handheld, hands-free.

Hands-free device, I won't believe it.

Yeah.

But we are hopeful.

Yes.

Let's skeptical.

Oh, yes.

Oh, yes.

Cautiously optimistic.

Okay, now some next big news.

Just they keep coming.

We're five for five.

Like, we don't have time for bullshit stories today.

We are five or five.

Scott Disick and Amelia Hamlin break up.

Woohoo.

The 20-year-old model and the 38-year-old reality star have broken up after less than a year of dating.

Page six has confirmed.

A source told us weekly on Tuesday that Amelia was the one who ended things with Scott.

Quote, they're both taking it in stride.

I actually believe that.

Reminder: the breakup news comes just a week after the talentless designer's private messages about

ex, Courtney Kardashian were made public.

Obviously, Scott messaging Eunice, yo, is this chick okay?

Um, definitely, like we said,

pissed off, would piss off that Amelia's girlfriend.

Honestly, like, this whole, I have so many thoughts about this whole relationship and Lisa and everything, but if it is, if this is how it played out, like, Amelia felt like hella disrespected by all this, I actually have a lot of respect for Amelia because the way that it looks is like, of course, like Amelia will never break up with Scott.

Like, it's the most relevant, famous person she'll ever date.

Like, her whole family, like, pretends not to be excited, but they are.

Like, so if she did actually break up with him, like, out of respect for herself, like, you can't be going around, like, embarrassing me.

Like, I have a lot of respect for that.

I just have to say, I don't know if that's how it played out.

That is how this article made it seem, but you really never know.

But I will respect that because that is an admirable thing to do to have self-respect in a relationship like that.

Right.

We had assumed last week it was just another day in the distick household.

Right.

Like, that wouldn't bother her.

Like, in a relationship like that.

If you don't like it, go to your room.

Yeah, no.

And those types of relationships, like you don't really get to be mad.

Like,

yes, it is what it is.

Yeah, or you can go.

Yeah, you don't like it, leave.

And so, perhaps she left.

And so, that does give me like a little bit of like a

look at look at Amelia respect.

But now, now we have to talk about Lisa Rinna and her like social media antics in the last few days.

Like, she posted a picture of Harry Styles because, like, on Real House Eyes of Beverly Hills, when asked about Scott, she pretends to be upset.

And she's like, Why couldn't she have just dated Harry Styles?

Like, all right, get in line, Lisa, first of all.

second of all, um, she posted the picture of Harry leading people to think that, like, maybe they were not doing well, Scott and Amelia.

And then this whole news came out, and she responded to someone's comment, just like confirming that, like, you know, she was just like putting herself in the middle of it.

And, like, honestly, now that the relationship's over, it's so easy for like Lisa to be like, oh, well, I didn't like this, I didn't approve.

But, like, where were you?

Right.

Where were you when your 19-year-old daughter was dating almost a 40-year-old man?

Yeah.

Like, it's easy to be the hero now.

Yeah.

But

where were you?

Like, pretending I'm at Beverly Hills.

Like, oh,

dissick.

Like, stop.

Stop.

Yeah.

We're not buying it.

No, we're not.

But

that's that on that, I guess.

I'm so thrilled to no longer have to not talk about them.

To avoid them.

Go out of my way talking about them.

Hopefully he engages in an age-appropriate relationship.

Good luck.

Hopefully she does as well.

I don't think so.

You don't think so from either of them?

No, I'm sure Amelia will find someone her age, but Scott.

Yeah.

It's a pattern now.

Yeah.

And that's where it makes it difficult for me, as a fan of his, like, to really respect anything he does.

Big time.

Big time.

Are you ready for

the final story?

For what?

The final story.

We're cool for the summer.

We're cool for the summer.

We are cool for the summer.

Okay, we're cool for the summer, and now we're ready for the fifth and final story, which is the full Dancing with the Stars season 30 cast.

And it's really a good one.

It is.

The cast of

the new season of Dancing with the Stars includes the talk co-host Amanda Clutes, which we announced last week.

And by the way, she was a rocket.

Yeah, she was a dancer.

She was a rocket.

Not just a dancer.

Like the dancer.

The creme de la creme, that means cream of dancers.

So I get in front of Theo.

He's the cream of the cream of dancers.

Have you ever seen him?

He's a rocket.

Getting out there and shaking that thing.

No, but I just want to like, I don't want to move on to the next one yet until we like talk about how unfair this is.

No, I know.

Like, love Amanda Clutes, live for everything, support, but

this is up there with Heather Morrison, like like a former raquette next charlie d'Amilio is going to be on dancing of the stars she should be because she's an amazing dancer yeah and she's like trained no this is this is insane like

it's worse than like Sunny Lee and when you know Simone Biles was on like it's worse then we also have Beverly Hills 90210 is Brian Austin Greene oh Sharna and Brian like literally couldn't care less loserville population too moving on bling empire is Christine Chu no way

oh that's good yeah that is good She's a perfect type of person.

I bet she's a terrible dancer, like, but she'll learn and get better.

Like, that's what it's supposed to be.

And then perhaps the most exciting casting announcement, Peloton instructor Cody Rigsby.

Yes, I saw that this morning.

He is going to bring everything he has.

Claudia, I'm so excited for you to watch because you're going to love him so much.

He's going to kill it.

I know it.

I know his vibe.

Like, I see him all over TikTok.

Right.

And he obviously has rhythm because of his classes and they're so like with the music, but like he's not a dancer.

So he's actually the perfect casting.

Yep, and I'm so excited to see his like personality come through, his song choices.

Like, he also has just like creative vision, and I think he's like obsessed with pop culture and like so many celebrities and musicians.

He's like the perfect casting.

I think it was amazing, and like he's in the homes of millions of Americans, like he has a deep, wide reach.

Like, I do think people will vote for him.

Like, he's not so obvious, like, Matt James, but he is like really,

he's like a part of people's everyday lives.

Yes, and is he going to be doing his Peloton?

No, he's going to take some time off.

I don't know.

And he'll do a class.

Yeah, he's going to do that.

Training, stay in shape.

Yeah.

And then he could tell everyone to vote for him.

No, literally.

Like,

he should still do the classes.

He should.

There's definitely Peloton studios in LA.

For sure.

And also, it's just exciting to see like Peloton instructors who, for the last almost two years, have become such a big part of everybody's lives.

Like seeing them become traditional famous people.

No, it's fabulous.

Yes.

Former NBA player Iman Schumpert.

Oh, he has a new reality show.

Yes, so I'm sure like he's, you know, making

country star Jimmy Allen.

Oh, that's good.

That is good.

It's surprising, though, because he's like really taking off.

Yeah.

So now he's going to do the they always got to throw a country star in there.

Yeah.

YouTube superstar Jojo Siowa, we knew.

Fabulous.

I feel like she's been waiting around for like months for this.

Yeah.

Real households of Atlanta's Kenya Moore.

No way.

Yes, we said that last week, and that was your reaction last week.

I feel like she's not going to like it.

No, I don't like it.

She really likes to be in control of things.

I don't think she's gonna like it at all.

I feel like she's gonna like pull Alicia Vanderpump and like fake break her ankle or something.

Yeah, I agree with you.

Cobra Kai's Martin Cove.

I don't know who that is.

The Bachelor's Matt James.

Yes, there's always someone from The Bachelor.

I did see a video of Matt dancing because he made a TikTok with Sunny Lee.

And I don't know why I just assumed he was a good dancer when he literally has no rhythm.

He was like atrocious.

I saw him make a TikTok with Tyler C, the one with their shirts off.

And I thought it was good.

I remember that one.

I thought it was good.

Spice Girls, Mel C.

Ah, that's good.

That's exciting.

Wait, Mel C

sporty?

Mel C

sporty.

Oh, wow.

Mel B is like popping.

She's on America's Got Talent.

But Mel C, like, I have not heard from her since her iconic solo song.

How does it go?

She released a solo song that I think is one of the best songs ever written.

Whoa.

And just give me one second.

It's worth, it's worth.

Mel

which one?

C.

Just give me a second.

Melanie C.

Oh, I turn to you.

That's her.

Like a flower leaning towards the sun.

I turn to you

because you're the only one

who can turn me around

when I'm upside down, down.

I turn to you.

So good, right?

So good.

I didn't realize that was her.

Then the offices, Melora Hardin.

They don't want your office.

Oh, by the way, yes, that is Jacqueline from the bold type.

From the bold type.

Wow.

Love that figure.

She's also the principal from 17 again.

Okay.

And she goes out

with the guy.

Yeah, so good.

I love her.

Yeah, okay, I'm excited.

I'm so glad she found, you know, a new project after the multipel.

Yeah.

WWE's Mike the Miz.

Oh, Mr.

and Mrs.

Miz.

Miz and the Miss, that atrocious reality show.

Mr.

and what is it?

No, it's Miz and Mrs.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

I think.

I've never seen it.

Me neither.

The commercials are enough to make me know it's literally the worst show on television.

Okay, Olivia Jade and Sunny Lee.

Okay, just run through like the two most interesting people.

We spoke about them last week.

I cannot believe the Olivia Jade rumor was true.

Like I hope that she has fun.

I think that

enough time has passed.

I hope that people don't like make fun of her like she's just a person.

And I'll be rooting for her like 100%.

Yeah.

Who do you think is going to win?

Well, it's tough because you have to be

really popular, but you also have to be good because at some point your popularity can only take you so far.

So like that's my concern with like Matt James.

You know, i don't think he's a very good dancer but i think of course his fan base will take him you know halfway there yeah i think that jojo can make it really far because she's very good and very popular you have to get both true i like i don't know what amanda klutz is like following is like does she have like you know she has mature women who are not going to be staying up all night you know calling a million times but her skill could get her very far right right so i don't know jojo sea was definitely a frontrunner suni lee is definitely a frontrunner yeah i don't know what olivia j dances i feel like malora harden like could be be someone who's just like people definitely like want to root for.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's like that other season that we watched.

Where the woman from the office, the alcoholic who works in like accounting.

Yeah.

She made it really far, even though like she doesn't have like a gaggle of millions of followers who are like waiting up, like texting, you know, using three different phones to send their votes in.

Yeah.

So it'll be actually a very interesting season.

My only problem with becoming a fan of Dancing with the Stars, which I literally became last year, is

It's such long episodes.

It's similar to The Bachelor.

Like they have a million commercial breaks.

They have useless like packages of people dancing through L.A.

Like, just show us the dancing and give us a score and move on.

Yep.

Yeah, yeah.

They waste so much time.

They can't help themselves.

They can.

It's like an ABC trademark.

Okay, well, it premieres Monday, September 20th, if you want to watch.

And speaking of TV, we must get into the TV recap.

Let me open my list, but let's definitely start off with the D'Amelio show.

They have a reality show on Hulu.

If you haven't watched it, I really do suggest it.

It's much different than I thought it was going to be.

Yes.

And I think that was good and bad, because just from an entertainment perspective, I really liked getting to know the girls and their business.

But I do feel like the whole show, every episode, was about the same thing.

And it's an important conversation for sure, but I'm just saying from an entertainment perspective, it did get like a little

like repetitive at the end.

Yes, I agree.

It was really surprising.

I thought this family was getting a show and it was going to be like silly family antics and like fabulous events like most family reality shows are.

And you know, you get a little bit of the real life and whatever, it'd mostly be like them, you know, doing silly things.

Right, like going to an art class.

There was really not that much that was silly about this show.

And I have so many thoughts on the whole, but I will say, like I said earlier in the show, when I would think, if I ever thought about Charlie and Dixie D'Amelio like before watching the show, I would have assumed that they were so happy.

The luckiest girls alive.

Like just so excited.

And they have ever, like to go from like just being, you know, a regular kid in Connecticut and then to have this level of fame that like, you know, in one year, Charlie's on the Time 100 list, like, it's unprecedented.

It's the real definition of like, what's that phrase?

Be careful what you wish for because you just might get it.

Yeah.

So I was not prepared to see, and to me, when I think of Charlie and Tixie, like they're so loved.

She has the most, Charlie has the most followers on TikTok because people love her.

Love her.

So I was so surprised to see how much hate they deal with, like how it affects them so.

But I also think that they don't have good systems in place for dealing with it.

I completely agree.

Like it was shocking to see A, how much they get and B, how it really bothers them.

Like they're not just like these larger than life figures.

They really are just like fucking 16 and 19 year old girls who like if somebody, if you were in high school and somebody came up to you and called you musty, like you would cry.

And so they cried because they're children.

Right.

And it's so crazy when you...

keep reminding yourself that Charlie is 16.

And then you like think back to where you were at at 16 and like if someone was like capturing my personality on a reality show and also like her personality keeps changing episode to episode.

She's evolving.

She's a teenager and like she doesn't know who she is yet.

And Charlie is so young, but like so is Dixie.

Dixie's now like the, dixie's the older one so i think like people give her less grace in that sense but like she's still fucking 19 she can't even have a sip of alcohol exactly crazy and she's i was just thinking like at their birthday party like charlie at the end i'm like are they drinking no no and i mean i they don't seem like that i wasn't getting drinking vibes from any of the show yeah but like the fact that they sit on their phones all day they wake up roll over grab their phone and read comments like is so unhealthy and i would just i would have just assumed that like

they either some most people who are that famous don't read comments, right?

But they got really famous like from the comments

section from the comment section.

So, okay, they're probably like accustomed to reading comments, but like why do like I was after watching the show, I'm like, they should have two phones, one for posting TikToks and like looking at Instagram and all those things, and like one for texting their friends.

Like, they should not be allowed to be on that TikTok phone all fucking day, and they sit around with their parents and they're like reading mean comments about themselves, like while they're trying to have a conversation.

And it's like the parents should be like, get off your phone, like, because what they're doing on there is so harmful.

Yeah, honestly, like, there's one part of the show that gave me a pit, and I'm not critiquing anyone's parenting at all, but I did.

Because the parents are in unchartered territory.

Of course.

And they, and they admittedly, they said, like, we have no idea what we're doing.

I just feel like

there's like there's more that they could be doing to protect their daughter's mental health like you know Charlie's having a breakdown Dixie's having a breakdown and like they're filming it and like literally the filming is the the

It's the antithesis of what they need.

And, you know, they told Charlie to take a break.

They cleared her schedule for a week and thought that it would fit.

And I'm sure she definitely helped, like, clearing her schedule for one week.

Like, no, no, girl needs like a six-month break.

Like, I just feel like the parents kept giving me a pit.

And it's like, they live in this house that, like, is paid for by the kids.

It just feels like this, like, kind of really weird.

backwards type of dynamic.

And I just felt like I wish that,

and maybe they do it, and we don't see it.

I just wish that, like, the parents had handled a lot of the things differently.

Well, towards the end, the Charlie's changed her schedule.

She only works three days a week, and it's between 11 and 4.

And if you want to work with her, and I think that's much healthier.

And it must be really crazy.

And I almost wish, I know that they would never share this, but like.

Explain to us how much money you're making that's worth putting your kids through this because I'm sure it's so much money.

But if it's like, you know what?

And most people would choose like that and this.

The truckers for Charlie.

Truckers for Charlie over going home to Connecticut.

Of course.

Like, for the average viewer, it's like, how could you be putting your kids through this?

And the dad keeps saying, like, well, if you know, if it ever gets too much, like, we'll go back home, we'll call it quits.

And it's like,

we have reached that point.

To me, it looks like it's too much.

A hundred percent.

Girls are so miserable.

They're crying every single day, multiple times a day.

They can't enjoy like regular things, like meals with their friends or with their family.

Like, they're broken.

It's so sad.

It's so sad, especially considering those are girls that I would consider have a net positive life experience on the internet because they're so loved.

I had no idea Charlie gets so much hate like or that

they've never had like old tweets resurface like they're just they're they've never read the

scandal they're not controversial at all they're just like beloved they are all these brands want to work with them like and then to hear that like you know and I think it was um a banny said it you know the hate stresses you out when you're working with brands because you don't want the brands to see it and be like maybe we shouldn't work with this this person.

And it's like, but the hate is so unfounded, and it's like

it's so crazy.

But you think you're doing something wrong when like you didn't, yeah, yeah.

So they like stress out about that, they stress out about everything, and also like the level of like social anxiety that they have.

Even like the friends that they're with, the people that they're friends with, like TikTokers, like, yeah, don't leave my house.

Like, you're 16-year-old girls, that's not normal.

No, it's so, it's so sad.

And like, when Abani was like, I can't, when I go to a restaurant, we try like both of us are too like nervous to order to order.

Like, like,

yeah, no, like, and then when they were talking about Noah Beck, who I literally adore, they were like, he's just neurotypical.

Like, he doesn't have any of these issues.

And I'm like, you know what?

You're right.

Like, there's such a difference in the way he speaks on the show, like, versus Dixie.

And Dixie gets a lot of shit because she's like monotone and she's like quiet.

But the thing is, what I learned from the show was like, You think you know these girls?

Like, you don't know them at all.

Yeah.

And her relationship with Noah was the best part of the show.

I'm such a Dixie fan.

I followed her after the show.

Like, I feel like she actually had a lot of growth on the show.

Yes, from episode one to to the last episode, like, it's a brand new Dixie.

She's really blossomed.

She's really blossomed.

And I love that for her.

Like, and you know what?

They made a good point because, like, of course, they get so much shit.

Like, Dixie's not a real singer.

And she's like, okay, but if you were getting these opportunities to, like, you know, sing and perform at, wouldn't you?

Like, it's so moronic.

But it's just crazy because the way that I saw it, not that I thought that much about them before, but like, Dixie

and Charlie like became really famous and then she put out a song, Be Happy.

And then I was like, everywhere was so popular.

And I was pop it.

And I never realized that like her singing career was fraught with all this hate.

Yes, yeah, I had no idea because, like, her songs were so popular.

Well, that's what people on the internet do, and by the way, those girls also are really

very poignant, and like they get so much hate.

And those moron boys that they're friends with, like Bryce Hall, like they get no hate and they actually commit crimes.

Like, Bryce Hall, like, starts fights in restaurants, and like, everyone loves him.

And, like, Charlie and Dixie released a YouTube video where, like, they spit out a piece of food that they didn't like, and it was literally worldwide news.

Right, I remember that news.

So, like, there is this insane double standard, and it's like crazy that these really young girls are able to point it out,

especially as it perceives to like cancel culture getting canceled.

She was like, these boys could do whatever they want, and like, I do something like benign, and I'm a criminal.

Yeah, but when I think of like Bry, I don't, again, I don't think of them, but like Bryce Hall and the others whose names I don't even know.

And it's like, because they're what, doing their criminal activity and they're posting to TikTok, but like, they don't have a drink with Duncan.

Like, so even though they technically get away with more,

they don't get the opportunities that these girls get for being such great because they're the great girls that they are.

Yeah.

You know?

That's true.

The Bryce Hall doesn't have a line with Hollister.

No, and by the way, they're busy.

Like, I know that their work gives them so much anxiety, but like, I was really interested in all their calendars and what other projects they were working on.

Like, I knew they had social tourists, like a line of clothing, but I didn't know that it was funded by Hollister.

Like, I was just learning a lot about their business.

Yeah, the clothes were super cute.

Everything that they do, they obviously have a very,

but it was just really surprising.

And I actually think the show will be

not at all what I thought the show was going to be.

And I think anybody who takes the time to watch it will be really surprised by it.

And of course, it makes you think twice about what you say about anyone.

And also.

Because you just never know.

But I think, I don't think before the show, I ever would have really felt badly for Charlie and Dixie.

But after this, I'm just like,

I think people will lay off of them if they take the time to watch it.

I also do think that was...

Part of the reason why they wanted to do the show.

I'm sure they didn't want another project to take on another like invasive thing that people could judge.

But I do think like, I don't think any of it was acting.

Like, I think that, like, when Dixie was having that breakdown

about the people, her YouTube video, like, she gets this amazing opportunity to do a 24 hours in a day with Dixie vlog for Vogue.

But should she not take it?

Because technically, like, other people might deserve it more.

Like, yeah.

But she, and she, by the way, she completely acknowledged that, but I don't think she was expecting the comments to be like, you're ugly, like, you're musty.

And it, no way did I think that was acting like at all.

No.

But I do think part of the reason they released the show is like in the hopes that people would just fuck off a little bit.

Yes, fuck off for them, but also in general, like when, and it makes me sad to just to think about like all the kids out there, famous or not famous, like that live like this in their phones, like the other people's comments in their high school, like other people, other kids experience it on like a micro level.

I'm like, the kids are not okay.

No.

Every time I watch something that like highlights like the Gen Z culture and like, even if it's like award shows, like,

the kids are not okay.

And what are we doing to help these kids?

No, the kids are not okay.

That was like the social dilemma too.

Like, if you,

we were like 16 years old, like maybe a little younger, like fully formed pretty much when we started like getting inundated with social media and like

being attached to our phones.

But like these kids are attached to their phones from like the age of seven.

Like it's crazy and it's not normal.

And like I feel like Charlie and Dixie are like a byproduct of that like on a on a huge level.

Right.

Plus the kids are not okay.

Like the phones are.

causing like incredible mental health issues.

And then also for the last two years, they're not allowed to leave their house.

Yeah.

They can't go to school.

When they do leave their house, they they have to wear a mask.

They already have like social

anxiety issues.

And now they can't, like, it's so

stifling.

The kids are fucked.

And that's what I took away from the show.

And I just, I need to understand what we're going to do to help these kids because this is untenable.

Yeah, I agree.

And I think

it was just shocking.

Yeah.

But it was a good show.

It was a good show.

It's just so interesting, like, their life now.

They also didn't really, like, talk about Addison.

I was like curious.

I know.

And also, but I also think, like,

I wonder, I would love to hear how Addison, like Addison had the exact same experience as Charlie, pretty much.

She's a little older.

I can't remember if I was talking to you or Margo about this, but I had a, this is just a theory.

And I don't think that

it's,

it might be true.

But like the way that I perceive the whole Addison of it all is like the way Addison grew up and the way Charlie and Dixie grew up is actually really different.

Like Charlie and Dixie grew up in.

like upper middle class of Connecticut and Addison and her mom have spoken about like on their podcast how like they grew up just differently differently like much poorer and I think that like

of course the shift from Charlie's former life to her current life is so different but I think it's so much more different for Addison that like you know this is her new life and she's just kind of swallowing the hard parts and really focusing on the fact like she is able to support her entire family they all moved out to LA like they all have their own jobs they're all making money from this like I think that

Her mentality is just different because of that.

That's just the way that I perceive it.

I have no idea if that's true.

And also probably because of her age.

Oh, that helps for sure.

Even because even though she's years between Charlie and Addison are like probably the most.

I think Addison's 21.

No.

I'm pretty sure she is

legal drinking age.

20.

20.

Okay, four years.

I think.

She was born in 2000.

That's so crazy.

She's actually turning 21 in like a month.

Oh, that's exciting for me.

I think those years make a big difference.

Of course.

But I would love to get a similar show from Addison.

And also, like, it is really interesting to see the career choices that they all make.

But I do think, like, the girls are so unhappy.

Like, is this worth it?

I would say no.

I would say no too.

She could go home to Connecticut.

She could be in the studio with Gemma.

And she could still do social tourists.

She could still do brands on TikTok.

Totally.

It doesn't have to be the same American envelope in LA, especially like with COVID, like there's just like you're going to travel less and stuff.

But Connecticut is close to New York.

No, I feel like, is it worth it for Charlie?

No.

I feel like Dixie has a better like grasp on things.

I don't think it's worth it for Charlie.

She has a better grasp, but it's not great.

But if Dixie was the only one on the show, I would still be like, it's not worth it.

Yeah, I just feel like Dixie finds actual joy in her music and like, and that part of her career excites her.

And I don't know if there's anything about Charlie's career that makes her excited.

Yeah, and that's why in the beginning I was so glad that she was still doing dance.

And I know she didn't even want to do it.

I know.

And I understood why at the end of the day, like, it just became one more thing that she needed to do.

And it was like, she'd rather have her free time.

But I feel like that's really what grounded her like her old life.

And then to take that away, it's just like she's just out in LA untethered.

Untethered.

It was a real shock the whole show.

Yeah.

I just just, you think you know people and you think like you see something like, I want that.

Like, I want to be the most famous TikToker.

It ain't it.

Like, it's not it.

Yeah.

And they have no like,

you know,

they talk so badly about themselves.

Like, and they're just like, I don't deserve this.

Like, listen, if it was that easy to just dance on TikTok and be the most famous girl in the world, everyone would do it.

So many, there would be so many more Charlie D'Amelios.

And there's not, there's something special about you.

There's something that people really like about you.

Like, allow yourself to be proud of that.

Totally.

And even with Dixie, when she was like, people just say, I got famous, like, I'm just famous because Charlie's famous.

And I'm like, okay, that's cool.

But like, that's- I have no self-esteem.

That's not true because so many people are famous.

So many people have siblings.

Siblings.

So many people have even thirsty siblings and they're not Dixie DeMilios.

Frankie Grante.

And he's not Dixie to me.

No, that's so true.

So, like, again, Dixie, there is something about you that people really like.

Agreed.

And it's okay to be proud of that.

No, honestly, I watched a show.

My takeaway was like, oh, I want to be friends with Dixie.

Like, I really was.

She was funny.

Like, she's, and she got more comfortable as the show went on, but you're right.

Like, they have no self-esteem.

Yeah, and it's just so sad because they've not accomplished nothing.

And they really look at themselves like, I don't deserve to be here.

Yeah.

And you, yes, you can always say there's someone who deserves it more.

There's someone more talented, but like you can also.

There's proof in the putting.

No, but you can also like say nice things about yourself, too.

But it doesn't take away from everyone who's done more.

The doctors and nurses and Time 100.

I think Charlie was right about that.

Charlie, you inspired people to see her.

You did.

Yeah.

The whole world was dancing on TikTok, watching your videos.

No, like changing the zeitgeist.

And that's just the truth.

That's facts.

Yeah.

You know?

No, totally.

So it just, it made me sad.

It made me really sad, like fucking depressing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Just you really never gonna know what's going on behind closed doors.

And this is like the real message here is like what you see on social media.

I know everyone says it, but like this is like an actual adaptation of what you see on social media versus screaming, crying in your bedroom.

Like just please keep that in mind.

Like when you're scrolling social media and everyone's life looks so fabulous.

Like they cry in their rooms too and they have body image issues.

Like it's just this was like an actual personification of like what you see versus reality.

No, and it was probably the most drastic one I've I've seen.

And what's so crazy is like the hate they get is like actually coming from 11-year-olds.

Like the kids are not well.

No,

they're seriously not.

Any other thoughts on the Debian Leo show?

I think I'm good.

If something else comes to me, I'll bring it up.

I started watching Only Murders in the Building, which is a Hulu show that I've been hearing a lot about that I was so confused about because I'm like, why are Steve Martin, Martin Short, like a...

iconic comedy duo for the last 50 years doing a show with Selena Gomez.

But I watched it because I read somewhere that like some, you know, magazine rated it like the best show ever released on Hulu.

And I was like, oh my God.

And Ben loves Steve Martin and Martin Shorten.

So we watched it together.

And I have to say, I was so pleasantly surprised.

First of all, the concept of the show, can I just tell you what it is?

Yeah, there's a murder in the building.

Yeah, there's a murder in the building, but like there's three like random people in the building who don't know each other who are obsessed with true crime podcasts that they start their own podcast to solve this crime in the building.

Like and it turns out there's so much more going on in the building than we had originally thought.

And Selena Gomez plays this like mysterious, like weird, like, you know, like

teenager or whatever.

And I'm very hard on Selena Gomez, mostly because I think a lot of times, you know, when she comes out singing, like, she's constantly disappointing us.

And I'm just like, how is this the most followed person?

But just remember the Damilio show.

Totally.

You're so right.

But what I was going to say is like, we forget, like, when you think of Selena Gomez, I think of Singer.

She's really like not.

Like, she is a born and bred actor.

Yes.

She got famous on Wizards of Waverly Place.

She did a lot of acting before she singed.

And then they made her sing.

They made her sing, which I really, maybe, I don't know.

I just feel like it's not her true passion.

I feel like makeup and acting are her true passion.

And she's stellar in both.

Rare Beauty is a killer brand.

And literally, Jackie, I was shook because you know, like when someone that famous is in a TV show and they're not like a great actor, it's like you're just distracted by their obviousness.

You know, like they're not blending into the show as like a real member of the person who lives in the building.

She's excellent.

Like I have to say, I was really surprised.

Like she is such a good actress and she is a big role, like, main character.

And I was just really surprised, like, and totally off, like, what I thought it was going to be.

I love the show.

There's only three episodes.

Now they're releasing them, I think, weekly, which is so annoying.

That's annoying.

That's like nine perfect strangers.

I'm just waiting.

But it's a really good show.

I feel like they really.

There's such a good vibe about it.

Like, it's so New York.

And it's like, so like pre-pandemic New York.

It's just like they live on the upper west side.

It just like really makes you like love New York.

It's really, it's an amazing show.

Steve Martin is so funny and Martin Short is so funny.

I highly recommend.

Like I just did not think that's what my takeaway from the show was going to be, but me and Ben were loving it.

Okay.

So good.

I'm going to watch it, but I do want to wait.

Same with Impeachment.

It premiered last night.

It did?

Yeah, I recorded it.

Okay, I thought we're living in the digital age.

What is with all these shows dropping weekly?

FX is like, it's still channel by channel.

Oh, it's on cable?

Yeah.

Fuck, that's so annoying because I really want to watch it.

Yeah.

Well, I record it so you can come through, but I want to watch it all together.

Yeah.

Okay.

And then I watched clickbait which like everyone is obsessed with it's starring adrian grenier it's a netflix show and it's like a murder mystery and like the whole time it was so good me and

yeah and you liked it no i know but he's also not really in it that much oh okay cool but he like i don't want to spoil it but he's just like not in it um

it's really good except like the main character is like the sister of the person who gets murdered.

And her name is Pia.

I never heard of this actress before.

And she has the most distracting haircut you could ever imagine.

It's a bright yellow bob with bangs straight.

So she literally looks like Edna Mode, but blonde.

It's so distracting and she's like the worst character and she honestly at times made the show unwatchable, but there's a major twist at the end that like you never saw coming and it's really good.

Okay, I thought Clickbait was like a documentary.

I thought it was going to be like a show about teenagers, you know.

On TikTok, like Clickbait.

No, that's Stamilio show.

No, later on, but it was totally not what I thought.

And I very much enjoyed it.

Yeah.

Then I watched Netflix did did a documentary on Caitlin Jenner.

More about

Caitlin's time at the Olympics and not her transition.

They did focus on the transition, obviously.

But I feel like we've seen so many and heard so much from Caitlin about her transition.

But I never really knew that much about her time at the Olympics.

Right, because you weren't alive.

Right.

Or like how she even got to the Olympics or her first wife.

Like, it was really interesting.

Now,

parts of it I did feel like were revisionist history because like after the Olympics, Caitlin and his wife and her wife

like things don't work out whatever and they go through Caitlin's many marriages and they totally skipped over Linda Thompson like and Brody and Brandon.

That's so weird.

It was so weird

just went straight to Chris Why?

I don't know That's really weird.

And then like I feel like the documentary really missed like of course this like life with Chris was amazing, but Chris also reinvented the fuck out of of Caitlin.

Like, Caitlin was becoming irrelevant.

Like, Caitlin was on weenies, and you know, they, when you win the decathlon, it's like you're

the best athlete in the world, like, that's what they call you.

And Caitlin went on this tour and these events, but then, like, people moved on with their lives and forgot about Caitlin Jenner.

But Chris was like integral in Caitlin's business in reinventing Caitlin, going on motivational speaking tours.

Like, right.

To not mention any of that.

Yeah.

None of it.

But then at this point, they're more so talking about Caitlin's transition and how

Bert, who I believe is from Caitlin's first marriage, knew in the sixth grade.

Like Caitlin had tried so many times to come out.

So like for us, it was so shocking when it happened, but like for people around Caitlin, it was like finally, like they had known for years.

Yeah.

And I feel like Linda Thompson, I feel like something must have happened with Linda Thompson because like why would they cut her out?

That is really weird, especially because do they have people participating?

I feel like she would have participated.

Yes, they had

Caitlin's first wife who like when you hear the story, it's like so cute.

Like Caitlin went to Graceline College because she got like some random scholarship like for football or whatever.

Tore her knee and like couldn't really compete in anything other than the decathlon and became obsessed with the decathlon, met this girl and they just rode it out together for like eight years.

Caitlin went to two Olympics.

First time like Irmella Van Black had the best time.

Second time like met someone at the first Olympics from from the USSR at the time and was like, I'm going to beat you.

And he became obsessed with this Russian Olympian.

Like, I'm going to beat this Russian Olympian.

And eventually, Caitlin didn't beat this Russian Olympian.

And her wife was just there the whole time.

And it was like, in another life, like, they would have been like the cutest, like, married forever.

But they had Burt.

And then, obviously.

After achieving this like major, major thing, Caitlin was still so unhappy.

And that, and that, like, became like a thing in their marriage.

Right.

So I really felt like it was a good documentary because like now Caitlin is like so messy and like out of control.

But,

and myself included, people forget like what she did.

Yeah.

It's like, it was, it was really good, actually.

I enjoyed it.

But you have to go into it knowing like

some of it is definitely not like.

Okay, I want to check it out.

I want to talk about Cinderella.

Oh, yes.

Because I watched it.

I was so excited.

I watched it on Friday night, I think.

And I'm going to start with the positives because I have a lot of really strong positives and a lot of really strong negatives.

And my net, though, is negative.

Of course, sorry to say.

Positive.

Camilla Cabello was amazing.

Wow.

She was such a good actress.

She's obviously an amazing singer.

She was a star.

She didn't distract.

I wasn't like Camilla Cabello, but I was also like Camilla.

Yeah.

She was so good.

She did a great job.

And she's gorgeous.

Like, probably just a vision to watch.

A vision.

And the wardrobe was actually really good because, as we know, she's a dressmaker and she loves her dresses.

Even though, like, she's a boss babe.

I wasn't crazy about her ball gown dress, but still, it wasn't that bad.

Billy Porter also did an amazing job.

It's crazy how fairy godmother is only in like five minutes.

One scenes, yeah.

One scene, literal one scene.

Getting her ready for the ball.

But that was a

pretty fun scene.

So that was good.

I thought Mini Driver did an excellent job.

She played the queen.

She was the mother of the prince.

That's funny.

And just she really

stood out to me.

And Pierce Brosnan played the king.

And he's, you know, so Piercey.

So

king-ish.

Yeah, but

didn't, I just mini driver stood out to me.

Adina Menzel played stepmother

and it was it was all over the place.

Then for the sisters, I didn't know one of them, but the other one was the girl who played Tracy Turnblad in Hairspray Live, the most recent one.

Oh, Maddie.

Nikki Blonsky.

Not Nikki Blonsky.

Her Maddie.

And

so I thought that was a fun fact.

I was glad to see her working.

You love when the live musicals just like pop up in everyday life.

I do.

Thank you.

Now for the negatives.

So first of all, this movie was like not authorized in any way.

So that's what you told me and that's what I want to talk about.

Cinderella is a Disney story.

This movie was not authorized in any way by Disney and you can tell because none of the songs from any version of Cinderella are in this movie.

They, it's all contemporary songs.

Kay Cannon, who's pitch perfect, is the director of this.

So it's very pitch perfecty.

They're all singing.

There's medleys.

There's mixed mashups.

And I just thought it was really stupid.

And also the song choices, like stepmother singing Material Girl, I personally, I personally was good on that.

Good on that, yeah.

The one original song, A Million Dreams or whatever, I loved.

Gonna wake up and see.

And

I wish there was more of that because I thought that those moments were really special.

But like, it, it,

the, all the, like, the singing mashups and like the dancing and the extras, it really had the same quality to me as Descendants.

Just like the villagers dancing in the village.

It was like, on the one hand, the production value was so high, you could tell they had unlimited budget.

And then on the other hand, when it came to

scenes in the town and stuff, it was Disney Channel made for TV.

Well, like, honestly,

I really wasn't planning on watching it, but and I hadn't thought of it until you brought it up.

Like, why a Disney remake is on Amazon Prime?

Like, it makes no sense.

If there was a new Cinderella, it would be on Disney Plus.

Yeah.

So,

why did they do like a generic brand Cinderella on Amazon Prime?

Beats me.

Another thought that I had, the Cinderella story, the story of Cinderella, I'm sorry to this woman, is not worth telling over and over and over again.

By the way, I thought that when we re-watched

Cinderella with Whitney Houston, it was like you're distracted by Whitney Houston and Brandy and like the music, but it's really like a boring story and really short.

It's boring, it's depressing.

Most of the movie is like bad times for Cinderella and like harding or just like fucking find her in the glass slipper.

Like it's like really frustrating.

And so, and also like I'm always surprised by the fact like I love

the high budget like live action remakes of movies and I've still never seen a Cinderella with Robert Madden and Lily James.

Like I've seen bits and pieces but like because this story is not a good story.

It's not one that we should be telling over and over and over again.

And then in this Cinderella, they

changed the story a little bit and that made it worse, honestly.

Like the end, I guess I won't spoil it for you guys, but like...

She told me and it's morale.

Like my eyes are just rolling in the back of my head.

Like it's just so dumb.

They want it to be like so

like

new and different and like progressive and it's just like

it's an eye roll.

It's just they're trying too hard.

They're trying too hard.

The thing is with these like Disney movies.

One of us watching it can be.

I know, but I'm just saying like with this whole thing like Disney movies are obviously like very old school.

Like there's a princess who needs to be saved by the prince.

And I don't know if the answer here is to like redo this classic stories and make like the woman a feminist.

Maybe it's just like make a different movie.

Perhaps.

That's just my thought.

Because like this stuff is cringe.

Yeah, like that was with the Beauty and the Beast remake.

Like we were watching these special effects.

No, I'm saying we were watching these special effects where like, you know, Emma Watson was having this like internal struggle because like she's such a feminist and she's doing a story about Beauty and the Beast where essentially like Belle marries her abuser.

Stockholm syndrome.

Stockholm syndrome.

So she was like trying to, you know,

internalize that scenario.

She's like Belle agency.

So she like hiked Belle's dress up and it was an attempt to make Belle look more industrial, whatever.

That's fine because they didn't really change.

Of course, if we look too into it, like, is this a good story for our children marrying your abuser?

No.

But it's a story.

Like, it's a movie and it's just not that serious.

Like, so.

And if you want to make a serious movie, go do that.

A different movie.

Yeah.

But what you're saying is like they took the Cinderella story and changed it.

They changed the end, yes.

I'm not a fan of that.

I wasn't a fan of it at all.

Like, by then, there had been so much like cringe, eye roll-worthy stuff that I was like, I was like, fucking turn it off.

Like, it was so painful.

And then also, so James Corden is in it, and he's an executive producer I saw at the end, which explained why he gave himself the biggest role for a mouse.

For a mouse.

He was a mouse who turns into a footman.

And like, you could just tell.

What's a footman?

Carriage.

Got it.

Man.

Got it.

With the reins.

And.

Squeegee girl who does the both sides.

Exactly.

Carriage and like in all other versions of Cinderella, like you don't know who played the mouse and the footman.

Like, it's just a mouse and then a man with the wig.

And he thought that he was hysterical.

He thought he was the star of the movie.

Like, they don't stop, like, the conversations among the mice.

Like, in every scene, the dialogue just ran on way too long.

Like, you, you could just tell they thought they were the funniest people ever in every scene.

And it was like, it's not funny.

No, I mean, there's like a viral moment going around on TikTok now.

What is it?

Where like Billy Porter

transforms her.

When she screams.

And she's like, oh, I look amazing.

And he's like, yes, Future Queen.

Yes.

Like, and everyone's just like, cringe.

It really was cringey.

I don't even know like the context.

I want me to just let you know there were so many cringe-worthy moments in the movie that in watching it, that wasn't even one of them.

Oh, it didn't even stick out to you.

No, because I liked.

I liked the dynamic between Cinderella and Fairy Girl.

And they did a good job, I thought.

And so it's funny that that's even like getting knocked.

No, and it's really painful to watch yeah it was just

it was not good and i had actually really high hopes because the trailer looked amazing the cast was amazing and camila just came out swinging and i was like oh she will carry this film yeah it was so long they thought they were doing something they were doing nothing i'm sorry you didn't enjoy it yeah well you when you tell me you were watching cinderella it reminded me that i wanted to watch krilla and i know i'm like the last person to watch krilla but unbelievable film like if you have kids or if you're just like an adult looking for a good good movie, there are no good movies out, watch Cruella.

It was incredible.

Okay, I'm going to.

I can't believe you didn't see it.

Because you know what?

Like, I saw you.

I know.

I watch all these movies, like, get so excited for them, and then they fucking stink.

No, Cruella was incredible.

Honestly, that's a difference between like Disney and an Amazon Studios movie.

Like, Disney's care so much about the integrity of the storyline.

Like, it was the, it's a prequel.

So it's like how Corella became evil.

And it's literally like the perfect prequel.

There's no stone left unturned.

everything from the original what you already know about kruella makes total sense like there's no bullshit it's so good and then it's also so contemporary like it's just it was amazing i can't wait to watch it did you watch with theo though i did and he was losing his mind he wasn't triggered no he was just

even though kruella does what she does well one day you'll have to see you'll understand why you'll understand no no just you'll understand why she wants to no you'll see mass murder the pups.

You'll see.

Okay.

Yes, you will 100% understand why.

Okay.

Okay, also, and then the last thing is I started Nine Perfect Strangers, and I despised it.

Okay.

It was so slow, and Melissa McCarthy was just being so funny, and they kept showing me, like, other stupid people at the resort who like were not being funny.

And I'm like, if you don't bring me back to Melissa McCarthy.

I want a whole show about Melissa McCarthy's character.

She's like a Colleen Hoover.

Yes.

Oh, you read the book, right?

So she's just like this.

No, I'm watching the show.

I didn't read the book.

Oh, so she's just, I want to know more about her life.

like give me the the spin off after she leaves the retreat like she was so funny how many episodes did you watch literally 20 minutes of the first one like I despise do tell you more about I just met Nicole Kidman and like I just I'm not buying

I'm not buying any of this like I really didn't

I kind of agree with you like I'm just looking for shit to watch so I'm not gonna complain with a few things that are decent.

Yeah, but it's so dragged out again.

They just these people constantly think they're doing something.

Yeah, that's so true.

That's like literally the and they can't.

The theme of Hollywood.

They can't stop themselves.

No, they can't see themselves.

And you know, they can't like shorten anything.

They can't cut anything.

Like, it's painful.

It is.

I don't think I'm going to finish it.

Like, I don't even like it.

I don't.

I wasn't compelled at all.

Life's too short to watch shows that don't.

Especially when I have an erotic novel waiting for me.

Especially.

I started a new book,

The Social Graces by Renee Rosen.

Oh, I've read it.

What did you think?

So good.

What was your favorite part?

Probably when she graced very socially.

I mean, that happens constantly in the book.

So, which instance?

Oh, when

she's gracing and it's like super social.

Huh.

I haven't gotten there yet.

Or sometimes, you know what?

No one is actually my favorite part of the book.

When she's socializing so gracefully.

Huh.

I must have not gotten there yet.

No, it's at the end.

Okay, I'll let you know.

What's it about?

It's about, it's like early, it's late

19th century, early 20th century New York, which has just been like my vibe.

And

they mentioned street names, like.

Yes.

And they're the same?

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's so weird.

I don't know why.

And it's about

Mrs.

Astor and Alva Vanderbilt.

It's like a, you know, changing of the guard society.

Wow, that's like,

maybe you'll read about Anderson Cooper.

I hope not.

Like, I seriously hope not.

Oh, man, that's funny.

Well, enjoy your book.

I'm gonna go home and read my erotic novel if that's okay with you.

Sounds so great.

I'm actually so booked and busy today.

She's gotta get a glass of wine, you know, dim the light.

Get erotic.

Dio, get erased.

Get erotic.

Actually, no, my housekeeper's here today, so maybe I'll wait till she leaves before I go ahead and read the erotic novel.

That's a good idea.

It just makes you feel weird.

As it should.

Even like last night, like Ben was asleep and I'm like reading an erotic novel.

I just feel like I was doing something wrong, you know?

Like I was just trying to fall asleep and I had this book and I was like, my sister made me read it.

I'm not doing anything wrong.

But like Ben's sleeping.

And I'm like, you know, I'm like, such a stereotype.

Like, lonely housewife.

I felt like I was doing something wrong.

I'm dying.

It was so weird.

Like, it was so funny.

It just didn't feel right.

So I'm just going to wait till I'm like in a good space.

No one's in my house.

And then you're going to finish it.

It's good.

You know.

Need to finish it.

Okay.

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