S4 Ep97: Summer, Summer, Summer: Thursday, May 27th, 2021

Good morning, Millennials.

Welcome back to the morning toast.

Happy Thursday.

We are back in studio.

We have an hour of silence for you, and we are ready to hit you with the fast vibe with dear toasters with real housewives recap.

So get fucking ready.

Get fucking ready.

We have so much silence.

We can't wait to bask in it.

Also, today is a very special day.

It's the first time ever for me, but not for you.

I think I have done this when I was on the breath, but I don't think I've done it on the toast.

Okay, first time ever for me not wearing makeup on the show.

I got a facial yesterday and I just want my skin to breathe and it just didn't make sense for me to wear makeup today.

So and I stand in solidarity with you.

I appreciate it so much.

It definitely like takes the pressure off.

Of course.

No, and my makeup was like packed so it was like annoying.

You know when you're going somewhere but like your makeup you need to do makeup.

Like it was so annoying.

So actually like I was happy to do it.

Yeah.

No, I feel really good about the choice.

Also we're recording extra early this.

this morning.

So just nobody needs makeup that early in the morning.

I completely agree.

And like I had a hectic morning.

You know, my fridge was leaking.

It was like a whole drama.

Yeah.

No, I've been like packing all morning, just busy, busy, busy.

Yesterday was like the busiest day of my life.

Like meetings, meetings, meetings.

Meetings, meetings, meetings, like pre-pandemia levels of busy.

Like not a moment to myself, like not a moment to eat and snack.

Pre-pandemitria levato levels.

It was.

It was craziness.

Like it was nice to be busy, but I literally didn't have even a moment until like six o'clock to watch the vlog that we posted yesterday.

Well, that's what I did all day, like upload and edited the vlog.

It was literally a joy to re-watch that footage.

It was so funny and I actually ended up like looking better than I remembered.

You looked so cute.

Every outfit was like kind of fire.

No, I know.

And we were just being like hard on you.

Well, you were being hard on me.

I was so funny.

I was trying to be so supportive.

Yeah, no, you really were.

And I definitely felt like, you know, I was taking out some of my, you know, toxicity on you.

And for that, I do apologize.

Wow, thank you.

That's so appreciated.

Just getting dressed on camera like is never not stressful.

No, it was actually reminding me watching it was reminding me of your site of dress.

When you were like, I hate everything about it, I'm like, she's the same bitch.

No, I'm literally the same person, just like longer hair.

Yeah, 100%.

And New Chin.

Oh, New Chin, and less moles.

I've gotten a couple moles removed since then.

And more filler and lip.

Well, if you want to watch this iconic vlog that people are saying is like their favorite vlog of all time, which is just always nice to hear, patreon.com/slash the morning toast.

And then, and then, oh, yeah.

Last night, the vlogging never stopped because I went over to Olivia and Zach's and finally filmed their home tour.

So it is done.

It is in the can.

We've got Kayler's room, just this oasis of pink,

Kaler.

And that will be up this weekend.

So it's a great time to become a patron.

It's never too late to become a patron.

You know, and I think a lot of people think that it is just because like we've been going for so many years now.

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200 episodes to watch, head over to patreon.com slash the morning toast.

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but I will say that you want to you want to sign up like now because sometimes like old episodes for one reason or another have to go by the wayside like members say yes to the dress episode like if you were a patron that month you saw that episode but if you joined after it was already taken down for licensing it was copyrighted and it's not going back up we can't so if you want to watch it now you just never know where where the licensing is gonna come from so if you want to watch these vlogs now head over to patreon.com slash the morning toast yeah i don't think you'll regret it no i haven't heard of a regret Me neither.

So, um, we have a great show.

Yesterday, we made the decision because we were podcasting from home due to some of the local Law 11 construction happening outside our studio.

We decided to postpone Dear Toasters because it's so much better when we get to do it in person and just like vibe and soak up each other's awesomeness.

So, we're doing that at the end of the show today.

We're also recapping last night's finale of Jersey and new episode of Beverly Hills, which I watched this morning and I have many a thought on.

So, we just like are so busy.

Busy.

We're booked and busy.

And then, like, from here, it's just like meetings, meetings, meetings.

Meetings, meetings, meetings.

Catching flights, not feelings.

I mean, this could be, this actually would be crazy.

Like if I say this and then like it'll haunt your, you know, memory forever.

Like, this could be the last time you see me.

Because I'm flying on a seaplane to the Hamptons, which TPG says they're safe.

And I'm also flying with TPG, which I just feel like.

He has like CPR.

No, not that.

Like, the universe would never like let a plane go down that TPG was on.

And he meant he changed his flight.

And I was like, I have to do whatever you're doing because I'm not taking the one that goes down.

Like, I'm going on your plane.

Yeah.

So we'll see if I show up next week, but who knows?

This could be the last time you see me.

And this is how you'll be remembered.

Yeah, no makeup.

Shit.

Okay, like that's just a lot of crazy stuff to put out there.

I just feel like if I say it, it can't happen, you know?

I don't know.

I could just see us re-watching this episode on the news channel.

Right after my funeral.

Well, okay, let's say, in case I do perish, I would like to say a few words.

Okay.

To my family, just know that I love you more than life itself.

And I probably wasn't scared.

Like, really, I was probably fine.

Two, like,

you were fine.

No, I wasn't fine, but like, I was probably like, you know, drunk.

For sure.

Second thing I would like to say is that I've really loved my time here at the Morning Toast.

And I don't know who you're going to replace me with, but I have a few criteria.

One, she cannot be chubbier than me.

Okay.

Two, she cannot be funnier than me.

Okay.

Three, extra points if she is related to us.

Like it probably would would be snitch or, yeah.

And four, like, just know whoever takes this seat.

Like, I will haunt you like till the end of time.

Um, and I've just really

the ghost of Claudia's past.

Oh, did you come across her?

There are a few, if this message gets heard, there are a few select toasters who I will spend my afterlife literally haunting and ruining your life.

I know you all by name.

And I will literally make it my mission in heaven.

Yes, that's right.

I'm going to heaven.

You?

I don't know.

I will make it my mission to ruin your life.

And I love you guys and have a great life.

Okay, Claude.

I think that like, should something happen, I think my strategy for replacing you, I think I would turn it into a Patreon series, like America's Next Top Morning Toast.

That's a great fucking idea.

You know,

and I would do like sample episodes with people.

I have one more stipulation I'd like to add.

And I will be reincarnated.

And I'm coming back as a nurse named Ashley Jessica R.N.

That's beautiful.

That's beautiful, Claude.

I love you guys.

Well, I hope that, you know, everything goes your way this weekend and that you have a great weekend on top of that.

Me too.

You know, it's so exciting that it's Memorial Day weekend.

Like, it's the start of summer.

Yeah.

Summer.

Summer.

This is literally us right now, like,

watching the clock.

Summer.

Summer.

Like, literally, summer starts this weekend.

It's going to, like, summer's about to pop off, you guys.

And I don't know if we're ready.

If we're, if we're ready.

I think that we are.

You know, I've been trying my best to get ready, like, my absolute best.

So I think I'm as ready as I'll ever be.

I'm feeling a little overwhelmed.

Like it's opening weekend of the summer.

The Hamptons is going to be like so, I like have social anxiety.

Like I'm just, I'm not myself anymore at parties, you know, and it's going to be overwhelming.

She's so shy.

No, but it is supposed to rain, which like I kind of won't be mad at because then like everything will just be like kind of mellow.

But like if plans go like according to plan, like I'm just going to be like on the cover of Hamptons magazine.

We'd love to see it.

Yeah.

I think it's about time.

I think it's about time also.

Yeah.

Um, yeah, no, I worry for your shyness and your social anxiety.

It's not that I'm shy.

It's just like I really don't know how to function at parties anymore.

Like, I really just keep to myself.

Not in a shy way, but just in like a, do I have to talk to you kind of way?

Yeah, but you know what?

Everybody's feeling that way.

I know.

So you're not alone.

That makes me feel better.

You are not alone.

You are not alone.

Did you see Ben Platt perform on the voice finale?

No, I did not.

It was absolutely stunning.

I don't know.

His new song, Imagine, is fine.

I don't think it's like it.

It's a bop, but it's not like, I have higher expectations for him.

And it was kind of just like very, you know, we are never getting back together.

Like, you know, like, you know how Taylor or her singles aren't always like the most best.

Best, but they're very pop.

Yeah.

That's what I feel about Imagine.

But he gave an unbelievable performance.

Like his singing, his dancing, like it was really good.

Speaking of unbelievable performances, someone posted in Toast After Dark, Katy Perry performed on American Idol, like with the, with the finalist.

Thinking of you.

Thinking of you, which is one of her most amazing songs that's so underrated.

And she fucking crushed crushed it.

She does really well on American Idol.

She also, you will love this performance.

She did part of me, like a stripped-down version with this girl Katie, who was on like a season maybe like two seasons ago.

It is literally the most gorgeous performance.

And the girl Katie is really good too.

And they're harmonizing.

They make it such like a different song, but it's beautiful.

Like you will love it.

Wow.

Okay.

I'm going to, I'm going to check that out.

Yeah.

Even though I have such a busy day, I don't know when I would or I could.

She also looked gorgeous in that performance.

I love her as a blonde.

But just that song is so good.

and she really crushed the performance.

So thank you to whomever posted it.

Yeah.

I feel like we should dive in.

Like we are so, we have so much to do today on this episode.

We have so much to do to do to do.

He's at his grandparents.

Where are you?

He's at his grandmother.

He's at his grandparents.

Oh, we love to see that.

Okay, without further ado, to do to do, though, let's get into the fast five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast.

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Babel always reminds me of that Lady Gaga song.

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No matter what.

Very Hebrew.

Very art pop.

It's from the new album.

Oh, like, it's very, like, vogue.

They should license the song in their commercials.

Oh, also, they announced the Drag Race All-Stars

cast.

Like, people are like super upset.

But, like, Ginger Minch is coming back, and so is Eureka, who I've really felt like was a stunning queen.

So I don't know why people are upset, but like it'll be good.

It's exciting.

Like I'm just excited to have drug race back on.

Like

whatever.

Like I don't, I'm not, I'm not here for the backlash when I usually am.

Okay, first story.

Newlywed Ariana Grande shares photos from intimate at-home wedding to Dalton Gomez on May 15th, 2021.

Is she gonna be Ariana Gomez?

Her initials don't have to change.

Her initials don't have to change, but like she would never.

Ari.

Ariana Grande sharing sweet photos from her intimate wedding to Dalton Gomez earlier this month.

She shared the photos of her and him kissing during the intimate ceremony in Montecito, California, as she wore a sleek, custom white dress by Vera Wang, and he sported a suit by Tom Ford.

According to Vogue, which covered the wedding, Grande walked down the aisle accompanied by her parents, Joan Grande, and Ed Butera, which makes you think of what I'm going to do.

I'm going to walk down the aisle, holding hands with my mama.

And I'll be thanking my dad, cause she grew from the drama.

Yeah.

And she only wants to do it once real bad.

She's going to make this shit last.

When I interpreted that song, I just just imagined only her mom would be walking down her down the aisle but I'm glad that there seems to be some sort of rapprochement yeah she was holding hands with her mom and thanking her dad at the same time it was very sweet her look was very simple her hair was up but in a more bridalized moment the look is everything like of course she wasn't wearing thigh high boots and like a sweatshirt white dress um but she still looks like ari but like very much bridal ari i love the sleek white dress she just looks so teeny tiny like a little doll cupcake yeah no by the way you're right she still looks like ari like and she has a very unique sense of style that honestly like

sometimes is not very imaginative like it's very repetitive um but i like this name broke don't fix it on right and you're supposed to look like yourself on your wedding day and i feel like she did just that that veil like bow thing was so elegant and different adorable adorable like a tiny little tick up like so cute so um it was really beautiful like hashtag stunning like seriously stunning i can't get over the pictures.

I love everything about it.

I think she'll be inspiring brides for a long time to come.

I think this might be one of my favorite bridal celebrity looks, like, top 10 of all time.

And it's so simple, you know, and that's just beautiful and elegant.

It's not for everyone, but it's, it was stunning.

Yeah, no, it's it's truly stunning.

I'm glad she shared photos.

It's nice.

I like how she went about everything.

Yes.

She took her time.

I'm sure she enjoyed her wedding.

It was just for her.

And now she's letting the fans in on it, which we deserve.

Yeah, of course.

But like,

what does Pete Davidson think?

Oh, even him.

and honestly like talking to this doesn't not look like pete davidson that's true like she obviously has a type yeah this would have been great if it were pete i know like that was that's really like the only thing that could have made it like better

but again happy for the happy couple so happy for the happy couple and you know ari she made her choice like i just can't get over that she got married no i know i just felt like

And I really like, I believe her when she says in that song, like she only wants to do it once real bad.

So like this must be the real thing.

Yeah, right.

I mean, time will tell, obviously.

Time will tell.

So, so stunning.

Okay, next story: some news that I never thought.

Like, I didn't think about it much, but when I did, if I were to think about it, I wouldn't think that I would be reading that.

Kim Kardashian did a QA on Instagram.

Oh my god, okay.

When I saw her post the prompt, like, I have the time today, I was shook.

I was so shocked.

Because, first of all, like, what is she?

Girls, no job, like, only like losers do that, first of all.

Second of all, it was very clear that she had done this QA with some intention to clear up a few rumors.

And I wouldn't be surprised if she asked herself some of these questions because i'm not gonna lie like

i have done that as well oh well i just don't know how you go through the millions of questions she must have been asked and i'm sure they were all about kanye no yeah no but there are some lingering questions there's a lawsuit going on basically saying that kim hasn't paid um her like gardening company that like does the landscape at her home and she cleared up the rumor and honestly i completely believed her it's that It's not her problem.

She paid the vendor.

No, she paid the management company.

The management company did not pay this vendor, and that's wrong.

And the management company should be sued.

But Kim has already paid.

Yeah.

So it just sucks that she gets attached.

And then also this Travis Barker.

Travis Barker.

Someone asked, Did you hook up with Travis Barker?

And she said, no, false narrative.

We've been friends for years, and I'm so happy for him in court.

And you know what?

That's that on that.

Yes.

Kim shutting things down.

I kind of love this direct approach.

Yeah.

So many rumors always about the Kardashians.

And I just kind of love this method of communicating with us.

Yeah, also, she let us know that she did not pass the bar.

And

two things to say.

One,

I did say that.

I would just like some credit.

Credit to you.

Because I'm always wrong.

Like when you and I, very, very rarely do we argue, but when we do, like, I'm always wrong.

And I'm just like making a case just to make a case.

But I was right about that.

And also, I think it's time for a follow-up to a little disagreement we had a few weeks ago about Olivia Rodrigo being a one-hit wonder.

I think, so I think her album is so good.

There's so many other Bops.

People are loving it.

It's too soon to say.

No, no, no.

It's not too soon because.

Only time will tell.

Dijavu was a hit.

Good for you was a hit.

No, but like.

A one-hit wonder means you have one hit.

No, Claude, talk to me seriously in like four years.

No.

Because let's say she's irrelevant in four years.

Wait, no.

Let's say she's irrelevant in four years.

Falls off the face of the earth.

She still is not a one-hit wonder.

She had multiple songs hit the charts, go viral, play on the radio.

People are obsessed with.

Therefore, she is no longer, she's impossibly a one-hit wonder.

So did Carly Ray Jepson.

No, she didn't.

She has so many songs.

Even on her debut album,

yes.

Like what?

I'm going to go to her Spotify.

Literally.

If you can't remember them, like, are they hits?

Yeah.

I really like you.

361 million streams on Spotify.

Okay, go to...

Hold on.

Because I...

I'm right.

I don't think it's too soon to tell at all.

It's too soon to tell.

It's all about how you're remembered.

That's what a one-hit wonder is about.

And it's too soon to tell.

You know, a one-hit wonder is someone with one song.

No, it's not.

Billy Ray Cyrus had albums worth of songs.

Billy Ray Cyrus had had many topics.

By the way.

Billy Ray.

Hold on.

Jillian says, Jillian's on Google.

Billy Ray Cyrus had many top hits,

but he's a one-hit wonder.

He's actually a three-hit wonder.

But Olivia's just like, she's not a one-hit wonder.

Like, you can't say that anymore.

It's too soon to tell.

The jury is out and they will not be back for years.

The what?

The jury?

No.

You think you're not, like, it's just all about the canon, you know?

But it's also about the hits and she's proven hits.

She's not a one-hit wonder.

It's about how they remember you.

And they'll remember me as being right about this.

I hope you're right, but only time will tell if you are.

Sour's so good.

Yeah.

Are you listening to it?

I've listened to the first half of it.

Oh.

You seem trepidatious.

Well, it is really good.

I like how it's like a paramour vibe.

Yeah.

You know,

not what I was was expecting.

Bringing back that mood, which like I makes me want to, you know, work out

and snap my neck for sure.

I just, um, it's really surprising that she has so much material from like this one relationship with this 12-year-old boy who's a big loser.

Like, you know, I know.

And it's like, she's obvious, like, you write.

from experience, so it's like, this is like, she's so young.

This is like the one boyfriend she's ever had.

It does feel like overload at some point.

Like, we get it.

Like, you feel betrayed.

But the music is really good and it slaps.

So you know, like, just knowing the backstory, like, it's just a lot of the same story, same thing, yeah, yeah, yeah, completely agree.

But she's also so limited in her experience, like 100% literature, she's only like 17, like

100%.

Um, but it's it's very good.

Like, I'm enjoying,

except there's a I've been hearing it everywhere, and like I enjoy when it comes on.

Okay, so you know, when like you hear a song and you think of what the lyric like should have been and it bothers you, yeah, I'm having that with the song Traitor because it goes like this: Yeah, you talked to her

when we were together.

Guess you didn't cheat, but you're still a traitor.

And I feel like it should be, yeah, you didn't cheat, but you're still a traitor to me.

Like the to me, like it just feels so obvious.

Because also the line before is cheat.

So like cheat and me, like kind, like not.

hardcore rhyme, but they bounce off each other.

It just like I sing it like to me.

Like it bothers me so much.

Interesting.

Yeah, I think I'm like onto something.

Yeah, you should go on Songland.

Together.

when is songland coming back i don't know i was just thinking about songland it's so good i'm always thinking about ryan tedder and like how i could become his girlfriend yeah let me know how that goes we've got so many hoops to jump through first i gotta start with ben

and then find out how to get to ryan um i really miss songland me too and it's just like so good even though the one thing i don't like about a show like songland is it's so

centered on who the guest is that if I don't really like know or like the guest like I just don't watch the episode and then it's like I'm limited in the episodes I can watch.

That's true.

No, but I think if you were like dying for Murr Songland, you could watch those episodes and you would still like them.

But I agree.

Like, sometimes I'm like, oh, I'm not going to watch that one.

But I also really like it because they do like lean heavy into country.

Like Lady A was on, Florida, George Line, like they do it all.

Yeah, they do it all.

Okay, ready for our next story?

Sure.

Well, I'm not.

Okay.

I'm ready.

Kelly Clarkson will take over Ellen DeGeneres' daytime slot.

And Claudia was right again news.

The Kelly Clarkson show has been so rare, you know.

Has been tapped to take over the slot currently occupied by Ellen when the latter show comes to an end next year Clarkson show which is owned and produced by NBC syndication arm will take over the slot in fall 2022 on NBC owned stations yeah I mean obviously like I'm happy to be right but it was really not like a hard prediction to make like what else is on TV right now that's successful in daytime yeah but you know not that it was a hard prediction to make but like

There's so many slots in the day.

So like the odds that like really Kelly would take Ellen's and that like NBC is saying like Kelly is the next Ellen.

Yeah, it's a huge honor.

It's a it's an honor.

It's a big move.

And do you feel like this just kind of makes sense in the universe?

Like I feel like for a while like we've always loved and appreciated Kelly Clarkson, but she's had like highs and lows in her career.

And I feel like for a while, and I think she talked about this on Watch Rapids Live, how like she really just like didn't fit in and like she didn't, you know, she doesn't like hang out with celebrities.

And I feel like for a while, she was kind of misunderstood.

And I feel like she's like found her place in this world as it comes to like entertainment and like her job.

And I feel like this is like now like all is what will be right with the world.

Yeah, no, definitely as a Kelly's fan, it's like no one is seeing what you're seeing and not really

frustrating.

You're just like screaming into a void.

And so for her to have this sort of success, like this is, you know, top tier success, like turning, being a celebrity and turning that into a daytime talk show host is like creme de la creme.

That means cream.

Also, that just reminded me when we were catching up on Kardashians, how they they refer to Chris's failed talk show.

And Chris actually gave some interesting insights.

She said it wasn't a failed talk show.

Like, I was only ever going to do it for a year.

I was taking someone else's time slot for a show that got canceled.

Don't know if that's true, but that does make sense because the more I think about the wonders of the world, the more I wonder, like, why the Chris show really didn't take off.

Well, I would just say, like, I'm sure it was meant to be a year, but I'm sure also if it was really good and everybody loved it, it would have continued on.

Do you think it was like a little too early?

Maybe, maybe.

But like, maybe, like, Chris is so many things, and like, everybody's obsessed with her and loves her, but maybe she's just not that warm talk show host energy.

No, it's not.

I want to hear about Chris and the girls.

I don't want to hear about whatever guest is here.

100%.

You know, that's the thing.

When you're like a funny person,

people always, their go-to is like, you should have a talk show.

But it's like, actually, part of a talk show, like 90% of the time is just listening to other boring ass people.

So interesting people, not that Kelly Clarson isn't interesting.

You know what I mean?

Like when you're like such a big personality, you actually don't deserve a talk show because it's not about you.

Yeah, I would say the same.

I would say the same.

Like, unless you're Wendy Williams.

No, yes, that's true.

But like Wendy Williams talk show is literally not about anything other than Wendy.

And like she's a guest She's like so many segments including the guest segments and she was like known more for her hot topics than her yeah guest segments.

Yeah, I'm always like rude to her guests.

I actually was just watching like last week.

She got into a fight with a guest.

The guest called her out.

She's like, I don't know who it was.

She was like, you just like don't support women.

Like you're always coming for people.

And I actually think she made some valid points.

What did she say?

No, she was just like, she was getting lost in the nitty-gritty.

She's like, when I come to your show, you don't give me flowers.

Like, okay, that's not what we're here for.

But she says, like, in her hot topics and in like some of her interviews, she's like always kind of like bringing women down.

And what did Wendy say in response?

She was just like trying to move on with the interview, like literally ignoring this girl's kind of, you know,

fair points.

Interesting.

It was a very funny video.

Well, so happy for Kelly Clarkson.

Can't wait to see.

Like, just let us know when we can get back to Vegas.

Like, we're still waiting on that refund.

So that's the other thing here.

It's like, what does this mean for the music?

Of course, we get Kelly Okee, but when you're so busy, daytime talk shows every single day.

Every single day.

Where does the music come in?

When is she hitting the studio?

When is she touring?

How do you tour?

I mean, I guess you have season, so like in the off-season, but she's a mom.

It's just a lot.

It's a lot.

And I just, I want what's best for Kelly.

Do you think this means she's like somewhat retiring from music?

No, because like I think the music pours out of her.

She couldn't retire.

She's so musical.

You know,

truly.

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Jason Tardick and Dean Unglert reveal how much money they were offered for a Bachelor in Paradise.

This is so interesting.

On the first episode of Jason's podcast, Trading Secrets, they did.

Which I recorded an episode.

I don't know when it's coming out, but.

The pair discussed how much money they were each offered to appear on Bachelor in Paradise back in the day.

So Dean shared the first time he went on, he said, quote, they hit me up and they're like, hey, do you want to do Bachelor in Paradise, this other show?

It pays $400 a day.

And you could be there for...

up to 30 days or something like that.

So Dean was like, yeah, great.

400 bucks a day, 30 days, $12,000.

That's fantastic.

And then he started talking to some of his friends and they're like, well, you should get more money because you're who they want most from your season, minus Peter Krauss.

Because he was like caught up in all this drama, like he was with Christina, like dating in the offseason.

No, but yes, yes, but.

And he had also...

Originally, he was just on Rachel's season and people loved him.

Yes, but even after Rachel's season, like he was caught like at Coachella, like hanging out with different girls.

Like he was linked.

So he was like an interesting figure.

He was an interesting figure and second only to Peter Krauss.

Wait, like $400 a day is not a lot.

It doesn't sound like a lot, but if you are there for 30 days, 12K, like that's a pretty good payment.

But most people aren't there from start to finish, first of all.

And second of all, I actually don't think it's...

enough money for a TV star, like who's literally being exploited in every way possible.

Yes, but then Dean said he then asked for $800 a day before producers countered offered with $600, he said, which was fine with him.

It could have been $1 more.

But just out of principle, I wanted them to pay me more than they were offering everybody else just because I thought I was hot shit or something.

Yeah.

Then he went on to do Bachelor Winter games, which he got $400 a day for and then jason it's interesting that they pay people per day like i just didn't think that yeah no i didn't think that either he also said that after the first time on bachelor in paradise with danielle and christina yeah and they he was coming back again he said he wanted twenty thousand dollars an episode of course for some absurd amount um but then they settled on like six hundred and two dollars oh my god that's so funny i mean i guess for dean like he looks back on that experience positively because he met kaylin yeah but i i feel like a lot of people don't have like the best time on paradise.

Like it's like they like set you up to like embarrass you a lot of the times.

And I don't know what amount of money is worth that.

Yeah.

And also now that you think about it, like people always cry when they go home because like I always thought of it as like loss of Instagram followers.

Loss of like

if you're getting paid per day

$400 snatched.

And I guess that makes honestly, I never thought about it, but I guess it also makes sense.

Like it gives people incentive to want to stay longer, to be manipulative, just to get a rose, not to fall in love, to have another week to fall in love, but to have have another week to sit here and earn $400 a day.

Yes, exactly.

So, what did Jason say he would do?

So, then Jason explained how when he got a contract for Bachelor in Paradise once in 2018.

But he was never on, was he?

No.

Yeah.

But he made a contract for $600 a day with a $5,000 guarantee in case he didn't make it past the first week.

Smart.

He opted not to get away from it.

But that's a businessman Bo.

Like, that's the kind of deal he makes.

No, 100%.

And then Jason and Dean also discussed their offers to become the potential bachelor.

Jason said that when he was in the running with fellow contestants Blake and Colton, they were all offered $100,000 for the season.

And then Dean said that he had a contract back in the day to be the bachelor, but it went to Ari and he was offered $75,000.

Yeah, they say that

the bachelor salary is intended to be one full salary, one full year salary of whatever that person's job is.

So I think there's like an urban legend that Andy Dorfman had been paid at one time the most because she was a lawyer.

And then I guess that would have meant like Rachel Lindsay also would have been paid that high.

But now I feel like it's literally like it's a hundred thousand.

Like yeah, I think it's pretty standard.

And I mean on the one hand, that sounds like a lot for probably 60 days work.

But on the other hand, like they are carrying this show that generates so much money.

$100,000 to bachelor producers is a fart.

Like it's nothing.

Yeah.

But also, I think it depends on like...

Who knew that Dean had gotten a contract?

It depends on the person.

I think a lot of people are somewhat interchangeable, but there are certain seasons where it's undeniably like Emily Maynard probably made a million dollars because like it couldn't have been anyone but Emily like no one was interested in any other person and they wanted her so bad she was an amazing bachelorette so they probably paid her more like if I had to guess really but it was also back in the day so with inflation she probably was paid back in the day with inflation

probably at like a nickel which today would be you know a million dollars

Totally so anyways, I just thought that was interesting.

Well, that is actually the premise of Jason's whole show.

Like when I did it, he was like, we're just going to be really open about like money and like sales.

I'm like, that's like my like worst nightmare.

Yeah.

Because like, it's nobody's business, like how much money I make.

But I did my best.

Yeah.

No, I, on the one hand, it's like, yes, people should be more transparent because also it helps everybody grow with the economy.

Like when you see what other people are getting and you realize your own worth.

On the other hand, it's tacky to talk about money.

Yeah, no, and it's also just like super uncomfortable.

But like this article, like with tea and everything, like there's not anything tacky about this.

No, because these are offers that they didn't take except for like the one Dean did.

But yeah, no, but like, I just, I don't know, it's different.

Yeah, I agree.

It's different.

It's different when you're offered money from a network versus when like you built your own business, kind of.

Yeah, no, it's just different.

I can't explain it how it's like not talking about money.

Like, it's just like spit and facts.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Spit and facts.

Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

It's the final story.

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It's always hard to stop.

I know, but it's once you get started, you don't want to stop.

But the listeners are like, please.

Stop.

Fifth and final story: Instagram and hiding likes.

The solution is here.

They are so messy.

Starting today, all Instagram users can omit likes and views from displaying on their own image and video posts.

And if you really want a fully likes-free experience, the app now lets you hide the likes and view counters on all posts in your timeline.

So, as you know, they considered removing public like counts, but then they didn't.

This has been going on for years.

and now it's a personal choice you can remove you can make it so that nobody can see your likes and then you can also make it so that you can't see anybody else's and it's just like if you remove your likes it's because you get none you know a hundred percent i will not be removing my likes no but i did get like the pop-up to watch this back after yeah removed my likes like the pop-up feature um came up for me yesterday like and i was like oh i guess it finally started Oh, interesting.

Yeah.

No, it's here.

I guess they figured out a solution to like help people with mental health, but I actually think this makes it worse because it's like, not everyone's going to hide their likes.

No, of course.

Then it just like creates this like stigma almost.

But there actually is another update within Instagram that I think is actually way better.

When you

block someone now, you can also block all future accounts they make because like, you know, people love to like talk shit to you and then you block them and then they'll literally make a fake account just to like start shit talking you again.

And now Instagram has developed some sort of technology where they know if it's like from the same person, the same phone, the same user,

they will block all future accounts, which I just love.

It's so beautiful, but it's a little too late considering it doesn't block all past accounts oh it doesn't no

damn yeah

it's just a little too late a little too long and i can't wait

um

okay well those were the final stories and i think you needed to know them yeah well we still have so much show to do we let's talk about real house was in new jersey tv recap real houses in new jersey part two and final part which was kind of weird because it wasn't really like a terribly boring season no but but I'm good on re- I'm I was good last night, but it was a boring reunion.

Like, first of all, I feel like there was a lot missing.

I feel we didn't make any resolution or even an attempted resolution between Margaret and Jennifer.

And I feel like we didn't even eventually get to the meat of it.

Like, just like they kept going after each other, and Andy never like started the conversation.

So I felt very

unfinished.

But I do think we actually got to a decent place with Teresa and Jackie.

And even though it was like cringy at the end to watch Teresa, like kiss ass, Teresa is only only nice to Jackie when Evan's around.

Like, no, it's so crazy the way she talks to him.

Like, oh, Evan, I'm sorry if I ever hurt your family.

You know, like, batting her eyes.

And then to Jackie, like, saying the most vile things.

She's awful.

Like, she's so awful.

Like, the fact that she couldn't see her own hypocrisy with the Kim D analogy.

Like, it was the perfect thing to say.

Like, Kim D accused your husband of cheating based on nothing, and you went ballistic.

She says she didn't go ballistic, and that Jackie actually went crazier.

What are you talking about?

Like, that's just untrue.

Like, and people try and call her out.

It's so frustrating.

I don't know how.

When John, Joe Gorga was sitting there, like, literally about to shit his pants when Andy asked, Do you think your sister is wrong?

And he eventually came and said yes.

But, like, that, that

clip is just indicative of what a monster Teresa is and how hypocritical she is.

And honestly, I have never had more respect for Melissa Gorga than I do in this moment.

Because even if you don't like her or you don't agree with her, like, you have to have sympathy for her.

Like, she has to operate in a friend social group on TV with her crazy fucking sister-in-law who never defends her.

But the second Melissa like stands quiet for two seconds, Teresa goes back to flipping tables.

Like, I honestly don't know how Melissa hasn't lost her mind yet.

She must love Joe so much.

Yeah.

To put up with that.

I agree.

But also, I don't know what we, I guess if Joe had said like, Teresa, like straight up, Teresa, you are so wrong.

Like, that's the only person who can get through to Teresa and it would have meant something.

So that's why it even matters for Joe to say anything.

And I wish he would be a little like heavy, more heavy-handed with Teresa.

Yeah.

She actually like is in love with him.

So Teresa listens to him.

Yes.

For the most part.

No, she does.

And that's what we learned this season.

Like, it's just, I found it to be so infuriating.

I think Jackie did a really good job of standing up for herself and trying to make Teresa see.

But like Teresa just is like.

It's impossible to talk to her.

It's not having a real conversation.

Like she doesn't operate in on this planet and use logic or deductive thinking.

Like I just, or comparative, I can't yeah no it's like there's there's no sense in making a good argument because it doesn't matter like it does not get through to her yeah so like we're all just you know talking to each other and it's just not penetrating and I and then like for like the fact that Evan went over and like was so nice to her after and like I just literally was Evan's a better engine than I could ever be 100% but like she's like I was thinking Louis plays golf no but when he when she was like you know I really never meant to hurt your family or anything like that but like you did and that's literally what you tried to do no and then she'll literally literally just turn around to Jackie and be like a completely different person.

It's like so weird.

She's obsessed with Evan.

She's obsessed with Evan.

There's such a shift in her demeanor the second he comes out.

She was being vicious to Jackie like right before the husbands came out.

And the second he comes out, she's like, she's amenable.

You know, we should play golf.

You know, you're right.

I shouldn't have said that.

Like, oh, and she said something that like pissed me off so much.

She was like, I mean, I did apologize to you.

And like, for me, like, I don't apologize.

Like, you should be grateful.

Like, are you fucking kidding me?

Like, who do you think you are?

The Queen of England?

Like, even the Queen of England apologizes.

Like, you're not.

Totally.

We've seen the crown.

Like, you're not so special.

Like, she was just like.

No, she really thinks this is her show.

And for her to come down to like a new cast members level and apologize is like,

we should all just be grateful.

Yeah.

It was just bothersome, but honestly, it was like felt like a weirdly unfinished reunion.

No, by the end, with the pineapple juice and like when Louie came out, I found myself smiling and I was like, stars, stop smiling.

Also, let's talk about Teresa saying she would never let a man intip.

Like, Teresa, that conversation was horrible.

Like, when Jackie was saying, like, they used to come and massage her shoulders at like the law firm.

And she was like, you let them do that?

Like, Teresa, what?

Like, that was horrible.

Teresa and Jennifer, when it comes to talking about sexual assault, like, it's actually offensive.

Like, they're so dumb.

Like, it was, but it was bothering me so much.

And I can't.

It was bothering everyone.

But again, there's nothing you can say that will make them understand,

especially Teresa.

So everyone's just like, okay.

Even Andy, like, it's trying, but he also goes about it.

Like, he's so harsh on some house.

Yes.

When it's unwarranted.

And then so, like, um, Monique.

Monique.

But then also, like, like,

like, kinghandling Teresa when it's like, no, she, like, I think Andy is also someone that Teresa probably listens to.

And, like, yes.

If he were a little bit more firm with her, maybe we can make some progress.

100%.

And he should have been more firm with her with the sexual assault stuff because that was just like out of line.

Yeah.

You let them?

Like, what?

Yeah.

But I mean, it was fine.

Honestly, like

it's so tough for me with Jennifer because like I think her behavior is abhorrent.

But then like when Bill comes out, I just like love him and like he loves her.

So like maybe I'm not seeing something.

Yes.

And I want to say on the rumor Joe Benigno front, what I really do think happened.

He heard it in the house.

They came home from the party.

The next day they were talking about the rumor.

And then he didn't know that like that's where it originated.

And he was like, yeah, I heard it in my house.

I think that that's really what happened.

I completely agree.

And I'm not just being like a Margo, Margaret apologist, even though like I am admittedly like a Margaret apologist.

Like, I absolutely love her.

And she, like, never looks better than she did at this reunion.

Yeah, no, that's really what I think happened.

Other, nothing else makes sense.

Yeah.

Um, and then Beverly Hills, which was just so stunning.

It was such a delight.

It was such a delight.

First of all, I enjoyed, and I never, never, ever enjoy like a new housewives like backstory.

I enjoyed Crystal's home life so much.

First of all, her housekeeper is so funny.

When she said that her brother is like a huge pop star in China and he's a manny at her house, like I was crying.

She just has a very interesting life.

Her husband is so successful.

And that scene where she brings him breakfast and he's like, I'm in a big meeting.

And she's like, oh, I'm sorry.

And I feel like a lot of husbands like would have like ushered her out or like maybe like yelled at her.

Like he was just like, no, it's fine.

Like he's just like, I was very surprised.

She comes up with a fucking camera crew while he's like actually busy producing a movie.

And he's like, oh no, honey, it's fine.

I'm like, oh my God, I love him.

Like, it was just so interesting.

Her, her family, her house is so nice, like that estate with the garden in the backyard.

Like, it was just stunning.

I really enjoyed getting to know her, and I usually hate it.

I agree.

I enjoyed getting to know her.

Like, I'm, I appreciate the backstory, Walt Moore.

Can't wait for more of her personal life scenes.

Also, her interview look with like the three bows.

Stunning.

Stunning.

She's just like really like an elegant queen, but she's also kind of bitchy, which I really enjoy.

Yeah.

And then we had this sit-down with Kyle and Garcelle.

And I have to say, I think that it is, should, it should be referenced.

It was such a productive conversation.

I felt like Garcelle really got to say her piece and it's clear that it's been bothering because whatever, what happened between Kyle and Garcell was like, not that serious, but Garcelle has been hanging on to it.

And I didn't understand why.

And I felt like she expressed herself very well.

And Kyle received it.

I don't think Kyle's calling her out on the charity thing was at all.

had bad intentions or she only said it because Garcelle was black.

But I think Garcelle is extremely valid in her feelings.

And Kyle did not get offended.

Like, how could you say that?

Kyle handled it well.

Garcelle handled it perfectly.

And I feel like they really put it to to bed i did and then when they were in tahoe i really felt like they have like clear the air they have a clear path to friendship whereas like rinna is the problem like i love garcel calling out rena literally garcel every turn literally you threw your best friend of 20 years under a bus in front of literally the entire world.

Why the fuck would I want to be your friend?

It's such a valid, simple question.

It's such a valid question.

When they were sitting on the bed and like Lisa Rinna will just say anything.

Jump how high to move on from this and start her next season of being a housewife, one she worked so hard for.

Yep.

And she's like, Really, you want to take me back there?

Like, she'll say anything to make it go away.

And then when they were done talking, Lorena's like, yay!

And Garcelle's like, no.

No, it was so cringy.

Like, I fucking love Garcel for that reason.

Like, she hates Lisa Rina.

And like, honestly, watching this group of women, they're son people, and Lisa Rina is one of them.

This group is like so fabulous right now that are getting left behind.

Lisa Rinna is not as fabulous as the other women, just in terms of her demeanor, her style, her personality.

Like, she's just kind of like

tacky with her hair and her leopard dress.

Like, it's just all so like old.

And I see this new woman, I see Kathy Hilton.

I'm like, why is Kathy Hilton on a plane with Lisa Rina?

Like, when Lisa Rina was like cheersing on the plane, she was just being like so loud and annoying.

Like, well, I feel like the way I see Rina is like, she's not the most fashionable or all these things, but she's kind of like a social lubricant.

Like, she will make sure the group, like she's always, she wakes up and like charges and is like, yeah, like she's like, she's like in Kelly Rippa.

Bull in a china shop, yeah.

Yeah.

So like these women like don't have to like, I just feel like her role in a group of friends is like energizer bunny.

We're bringing the party.

We're dancing.

We're, you know, she works like she does not stop.

Yeah, energize her bunny.

Literally.

So that's, I don't, I think she, she's going hard on, she goes hard on that, you know, Andy's baby shower, like she's always going to turn every party up because not everyone can be Kathy Hilton or Crystal or Erica Jane.

everybody has their thing and Rinna's thing is like you want her at your party it's gonna be a fun time I guess like I just I feel like the need for Rinna is getting less and less every season

yeah

I just feel like if they're on a boat or something you know someone's got to be the one pouring the shots playing the music and Debbie on a table Kyle does that like they'd all really turn up yeah Kyle is really like the perfect housewife like I and I only came to that conclusion a few years ago.

First of all, she's so social outside of the show.

She's constantly raising the bar for the show.

She brought Kathy in.

Chris Jenner was on the show with

Kyle.

Like, Kyle is constantly raising the bar for all the other women.

And she's evolved with every group.

Like, she was the Taylor Armstrong, and now she's the Darit.

And, you know, they just posted on Instagram.

Rinna, Kyle.

Darit, Erica, and Teddy Mellencamp are like five best friends.

They're like this unit.

They call themselves like the Fierce Five or whatever.

And like Kyle is really like at the center of it.

So Kyle's, like, what she brings to the show is, it's incalculable, honestly.

And with the Kathy Hilton of it all, even though I feel like I literally don't know Kathy Hilton at all after two episodes, like, she did, like, but she has a fan.

Like, that was funny.

But, like, I just don't know her anymore.

No, and I feel like we're expected to know her.

Like, these weird quirks about Kathy.

Like, I'm like, but who's Kathy?

No, but next episode, it looks like Arcelle kind of comes for Paris, which I guess it's different because Paris is like this larger-than-life character, but it is someone's daughter.

And, like, literally, the mother is sitting right in front of you.

It feels very inappropriate.

We'll see how it passes.

We'll see how it pans out.

I feel like it could have just been too slice-edited where they're just sharing a funny story.

Yeah.

And then the episode ended like very bizarrely.

Like I feel like Sutton was really drunk.

Yeah.

Because like I was not following her logic at all.

I wasn't following anything about the conversation.

It was making me feel like the way that they cut and they edited it.

It's like, just show us the conversation as it happened as opposed to like there's these moments of like silence and they're just showing everybody's faces.

And then it got like really heated very quick.

And I'm like, wait, how did we get here?

Like back up.

I, I mean, maybe it really just went that sideways that fast, but I really feel like it was a really weird editing job where it's like they just jumped into this heated conversation.

And just based on the way they were just showing different camera angles, I was like, I think that this is just like a weird compilation of footage.

Yeah, because like Sutton going on this rant about her seeing rednecks on TV and how she stereotyped, it's like no person who is alive in 2021 would bring that up, like in a conversation about like race.

Well, she did at some point.

I just feel like the from point A to point B, like there was a mistake.

No linear.

Yeah, it just wasn't linear.

And like Kyle was just like

that's really how chaotic it was and so it's even well was crystal drinking i feel like she wasn't but she was making drinks for everyone

uh i wasn't i wasn't monitoring her drink the house i did look it up to see if like we could go we we can't afford it um but 17 bedrooms eight thousand dollars a night i looked it up on airbnb this morning oh my god well i mean 17 bedrooms i was gonna say like no one had to sleep on the ground floor because of the bears thinking the same thing but they probably have like cast and crew but they stay in the house the cast and crew i feel like they probably did for this like they probably did like a covid bubble in the house oh for sure covid yeah

yeah yeah it looks like a fabulous trip amazing and like with the plane and everything they were just so cute two truths and a lie when erica was like i wore a wire in a government case and then she said oh i can't tell you which is the truth i feel like a lot of people were like she wore a wire around tom i think it's too early for that first of all and second of all i think that she was saying she can't she can't say on on tv her lie because she did work for the mafia like uh do you know what i mean oh i think like it was taken people on twitter were like shook like she said she wore a wire for tom you know yeah yeah yeah but i don't think that that was what it was two truths and a lie was funny it was a good way to get to know everybody's personality kathy hilton giving three truths like yeah you just like got to know people yeah it was interesting i agree

um so it was a good episode it was really good i mean even a bad episode of beverly hills is so sickeningly stunningly fabulous even though that plane was kind of beneath them a hundred percent like a passenger plane like Give us the lux, give us the glam.

It's an hour flight.

It's not like a 20-minute flight.

Yeah.

Give us the glam.

Yeah, it could have been better.

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I've been with my boyfriend for three years, and we will be moving in together in the coming weeks.

He is a true PJOM.

I've never had trust issues with him.

We haven't had any major rough patches until now.

He was out with his friends, and they were all going to a strip club.

He said that he would order an Uber home, and although he didn't have any interest in going to the strip club, he also wasn't ready to cut his night short.

He said he was totally, he said he was totally okay and he understood if I was uncomfortable with it, but he wanted to ask my thoughts.

I gave my blessing as I didn't think it was a big deal.

He has my full trust and I knew he would hate the strip club, so I figured I'd let him find that out for himself.

Wow, we love a confident queen.

Anyway, a few days later, he confesses that he bought a lap dance, of course.

I can't even look at him without wanting to throw up.

I view it as

completely disgusting and cannot fathom why he would want to do that.

He admitted it felt wrong and gross and has apologized.

He has answered every question I have asked and has been very patient, but I just want to punch him in the face.

I feel like my trust in him has been diminished.

It feels so out of character.

Do I even know him anymore?

Now the big question, am I being irrational?

How do I forgive?

How do we move on?

Help.

A total channel.

You still know him.

Yeah, I don't know.

You think strip clubs are like a gray area.

Yeah, no, I think strip clubs are totally fine.

I think lap dances, yeah, it is a gray area.

He did tell you, first of all, so I think you need to focus on the positive.

He told you he was going and then he told you how was happening.

Right.

So that's good.

I have to try and put myself in this situation because for you, I want to be like, lap dances aren't cheating.

Like, they make the world go round.

Like, they got to make the money.

But if my husband came home and told me that he got a lap dance,

I would be pretty peeved, I think.

Really?

I'm like very protect.

Like, I think, like, literally, Ben texting his female coworker, like, is cheating.

But.

I said, peeved.

Yeah, no.

But.

I don't know.

Something about a strip club, like I just like, it's like not that deep.

Like, literally.

No offense, Ben, but like, she's danced on a lot of people's laps.

Like, you're not special.

No, you're not special.

Like, she doesn't want you.

No, like, not at all.

She probably thought you were weird and like smelled.

You were just one in a million.

Yeah.

So, I don't know.

There's something about a strip club that, like,

I don't know.

I say that, and then if Ben, I know, I actually really don't think I would care.

Yeah.

It's so like unemotional.

No, I would, I would definitely care.

I would get over it, but I would use, like, while I'm being upset about it, I would use that to my advantage.

Like, whatever I'm wanting, whether it's a material item or a foot rub or just, you know, some concession on like a decision we have to make, I would be like, well, you got to laugh against but you know she is mad about it so like maybe let's like we can't make her unmad like she's mad no these things take time but i would just say like while you're in the stage of being mad and your husband wants to make your

boyfriend wants to appease you you know might as well get some things out of it yeah this next one's really long Hey, Claudia and Jackie from across the pond, a British Toaster needs your words of wisdom.

I've recently found out that I'm pregnant for the first time and I'm due early 2022.

It was completely unplanned and unexpected, but me and my boyfriend of three years, Harry, are overjoyed.

Whilst this should be the happiest time in my life, there's one thing that is casting a major stormy cloud over everything, my older sister, who is also pregnant.

I'm supposed to be hosting an extravagant baby shower for my sister, Catherine, at my own expense in a couple of months, but now I don't think if I should, I don't know if I should pull the plug and say do it yourself.

She's due in two months and hasn't spoken to me since I told her my news and thinks I only got pregnant to steal her thunder.

Oh my God, some people have so much time on their hands.

When I told her, she didn't even say congratulations or hug me.

She just said things like, it's a shame.

It's just a shame for you both.

I'm also pretty certain she's been telling various family members my news, which is really upsetting, as I'll never even get the chance to tell my grandparents that I'm pregnant for the first time ever again.

To give you some context, she's 33 and already has a 10-year-old.

She got pregnant with this baby on a first date with a guy called William.

They are now kind of together.

She has always expected our family, myself included, to fund her life

for her rather than work.

rather than her work.

I have personally already bought her so many things for this baby, like a car seat, a changing bag, and paid towards many of the bigger items for her.

I'm in my late 20s in a long-term relationship, and both me and Harry have well-paying jobs in a house.

I will not need to need to, nor would want to, have anyone buy me things to have a baby.

It has now been two weeks since she has spoken to me, and I know she said to my mom that she isn't even going to think about processing my news until she's given birth, as she needs to focus on her own baby.

She's also bumped into my boyfriend Harry and refused to even acknowledge it.

Having my big sister give me advice and share her wisdom would have been so great, and I'm so upset and confused that she is seeing this as anything other than happy news.

We all know she is annoyed that the attention isn't on her now.

It's not like she invented a vaccine.

She got pregnant on on a one-night stand it's hardly groundbreaking wow what would you do would you still host a shower or say no you can do it yourself now side note she's a big crier even in non-pregnant time so confrontation is really hard thanks so much from a toasty mom to babe well first of all mazel chov on your pregnancy i feel like your positive news has been completely overshadowed and honestly It's tough because with family, I always say like this is her sister or sister-in-law sister.

Okay.

With family, like I always say, like, you have to make it work.

Like, family is family.

But at some point, someone becomes so irrational that like, there's literally, it's like a teresa judais moment like there's nothing you can do and honestly like this is your life too like you're pregnant also like honestly like i think you need to like seriously like step back like she's this sounds so toxic yes

so what i would do is i would i would have a conversation with her give her one last chance and sit her down and be like listen i'm about to be done with you list off the things that you told us like who even says like

How is anyone getting pregnant like any sort of

have anything to do with you?

So be like, I'm about to be out.

i don't want to plan your shower you are not deserving you are such a fucking ingrate yeah and love the word ingrate i really at this point like don't want much to do with you i have no intention of buying you more gifts and you you know being a part of your life you being part of mine yeah like i don't know what i gain from this relationship you can't even be happy for me when i'm pregnant like

good day sir

Give her a chance to maybe

see herself and be like, no, I would love to, you know, do this together and you could plan her shower.

But I would try one last sit down where you spell it out for her just like you did for us.

Because when you say it that way, like only a Teresa couldn't see.

Yeah, but it does seem like, you know, you guys have let her get away with this type of behavior.

So she's never been like challenged on it.

She's just kind of like spoiled in that sense.

So I just think your communication, like write down your thoughts.

And you jot it down.

You could be like, especially as now I'm starting my own family.

Like I don't have time to carry you and your dead weight.

Yeah.

So this is an inflection point for us as a family.

Do you want to be family or do you want to be taken care of all the time and held your hand like a baby, even though you're the older sister?

No, and you're right.

Like now, I feel like it's been whatever while you have just been like a kid, but now like you have your own family to worry about and that's your priority, like the safety and just like mental well-being.

And she seems so toxic that like...

It's very sad.

You're right.

Like she should get another chance, but you need to really spell it out for her, like what's been going on and like how you're four feet from the cliff.

Like you're about to jump off.

Yeah.

And the shower goes with that.

But it's not even about the shower.

No, I know, but like I think the sister is like like fixated on the shower.

No, I think that this shower is like this inflection.

It's just a,

you know, the point to which there's no turning back.

Yes, of course.

It's like the mountain.

Yeah.

All right.

Here's our final one.

Ready?

Jackie and Claudia and Crunchy Angel Dora.

Before we get in here, should we still read it?

Yes.

I must tell you both how much I love you girls and how you have impacted my life from the show.

I love you guys so much.

Thank you.

Okay, here I go.

At the beginning of 2020, I got out of a four-year relationship.

Very shortly after that, I had started talking to someone I worked with right before COVID.

Let's call him Tim.

We started hanging out all the time, and for the first couple of months, we were quarantined together and spending every second together.

Given that Tim and I both worked for a nightclub, we were completely out of work.

Our club was shut down for months, so him and I were just pretty much chilling all the time at my apartment.

At first, it was awesome.

We were obsessed with each other.

He's a total P-Jam and very open to wanting to be in a serious relationship.

Even though I felt that Tim was complete marriage material, I was unsure at the time about jumping into another serious relationship.

Even though I really liked Tim, I panicked and felt like everything was going too fast.

I pulled back and expressed that I wanted to do my own thing.

I was still very communicative, that I saw a future with him.

Tim was crushed, but still respected my decision.

I knew I was hurting him, but I wanted to be fair to myself and him to not rush into something that I knew would be super real if I wasn't completely ready.

Fast forward to a year, Tim and I still flirt with each other at work all the time, and there's definitely still something there on both sides.

I have a lot of love in my heart for this man, and I know the connection is real.

I just found out he left a couple days ago to film a reality TV about finding love.

One that he and I watched together.

I was completely blindsided.

I feel like I got hit by a bus.

The bachelor, right?

It has to be.

Or, you know, love is blind, too hot to handle.

There are so many DCs.

He didn't tell me he missed.

He was married at first sight.

Right.

He didn't tell me he was going to do this.

He just left without even telling me.

I know he doesn't owe me anything because I was the one who ended it, but I just can't help but be crushed.

There's a big part of me that thinks he's my person for life and just the timing wasn't right.

There's so much I wish I could say now that he's potentially going to find the love of his life.

Did I fuck everything up?

Do I go to try and contact the producers and stop Tim from continuing off on the show?

What if they make me be on the show?

I'm not looking to be on TV.

I keep trying to tell myself that whatever is meant to happen will happen and it'll work itself out no matter what.

Ever since I found out that he left for the show, my stomach has just been a week-long pit.

I'm freaking out and don't know if I should chase after him or not.

I just wish I could have one more conversation.

Oh, here's the show ready.

I just wish I could have one more conversation with Tim before he commits.

Should I let things be or chase this dude down on live television?

The show is Love is Blind.

Ooh, by the way.

I can't wait to watch a season and find out who it is.

Wow.

I can't wait to watch.

Okay, listen.

No, Love is Blind is like this actual like incubation experiment.

You're not penetrating.

The producers aren't putting you on.

Sorry, I totally, oh, that, but it's not one of those trash shows that like, are you the one where like nobody gets married?

Like, this is a real matchmaking system.

We have two couples from last season.

No, but also, there are so many people that like it that go on the show.

The odds that he even like ends up meeting someone, getting engaged, and then going on to that phase are very slim.

And honestly, if that does happen for him, like you've got to trust the process.

But it's also impossible.

No, it's not impossible, but the odds are slim the odds are slim and the they're not interested like there were so many people on love is blind last season who we never even met and so they're not showing one of those people's girlfriend coming in so don't no you can't get on the show he's looking at the private you've got to wait but you know what like have faith that if tim is your person he won't connect with someone like he's connected with you he's obviously going to compare every conversation to everyone that he's had with you if he has a better connection with someone else, like that's something that you need to know.

Maybe you just want him because you can't have him anymore.

Or maybe absence makes the heart grow fonder, and now you realize what he has.

And the minute he comes home from the show, unmarried, you guys will be together.

You have to wait and see what happens.

You're not going crazy running into the studio, banging on the door, looking for Nicolas Shay.

Like, that's not how that particular show works.

Right.

If this were The Bachelor, like, you could maybe do that and they would put you on the show.

I just think, also, you were the one to pull back from Tim.

And like, it's not fair that you take away this chance from Tim to go on the show and maybe really find true love because

the show is serious.

So

now it's Tim's time to do what tim wants to do but tim really does sound like a catch like he's so into like relationships like he no now you know

now you know and if tim comes home with another married then you can write in again and we could we could see about how you could go about that yeah but if tim comes home single there's a path for you

yeah maybe he needs to you know if you love something let them

set them free and if they come back nobody else wanted him

exactly no you gotta let tim do his thing because you also say keep us updated on this because I'm like dying to know.

No, I'm dying to know.

If he does get engaged, you can email us like privately.

I just want to know when I watch the new season, like, which one was Tim?

Yeah, literally, same.

And also, actually, if he'll be the one who worked in Nightlife.

No, no, by the way, it won't be hard at all to figure it out.

Yay!

Okay, also, if you've written this in in the last couple of weeks and we have read your prompt on air, please provide us with an update.

We want to know if our advice was helpful.

What happened?

Did anyone get married?

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Enjoy it.

Acknowledge the space we're in.

We'll never have this much weekend in front of us.

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