S4 Ep91: Good Mood Claudia with Remi Bader: Wednesday, May 19th, 2021

1h 13m
  • Shanna Moakler claims she 'caught' Travis Barker, Kim Kardashian having affair (Page Six)
  • Mischa Barton Says 'Bullying' on The O.C. Set Led to Her Exit: 'I Just Felt Very Unprotected' (PEOPLE)
  • A$AP Rocky Says Girlfriend Rihanna Is 'the One': 'When You Know, You Know' (PEOPLE)
  • 'Dear Evan Hansen': Watch the First Trailer for the Ben Platt Musical Movie (Variety)
  • Burger King launches new chicken sandwich nationwide (CNN Business)
Real Housewives of New York Recap
Dear Toasters Advice Segment
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Good morning, millennials.

Welcome back to the morning toast.

It's hump day.

Hump day.

Oh, yeah, it's hump day.

It is Wednesday, so make sure to hump someone you love.

I have Theo here in studio.

Jackie has Bruno back at home.

So make sure you're evaluating your life and acknowledging the space that you're in and making sure that you have someone that you love that you want to hump every Wednesday.

100%.

I have like a huge life update for everyone.

Wow, okay.

I am feeling so positive.

Like I am a new woman from yesterday.

What happened?

Nothing in particular.

Yesterday was just like a bad day for me.

Like I didn't sleep great and I woke up on the wrong side of the bed and I didn't, I just, I hated my outfit.

I felt like so fat and I really wasn't feeling good.

My throat was hurting me.

24 hours later, I like my outfit.

I slept great last night, even though I did have like a nightmare.

I'm feeling a lot better.

I just, and I had a coffee this morning like that I liked like from my house, like a Starbucks Cole brewer with ice in half and half.

I love that.

Yeah, so I'm just feeling I've been up for like, you know, a good amount of time.

The mask mandate restrictions have been been lifted here in New York.

Like there's literally no reason not to smile.

Though your heart is aching.

Sorry, I'm a little hoarse.

No, I totally agree with you.

I'm so happy that you've done this 180.

We love to see a positive Claudia looking forward to all of her positive takes.

She's so rare, you know.

Positive Claudia doesn't just show up most days.

No, so we need to acknowledge the space that we are in now.

surrounded by a positive Claudia, which leaves space for me to be negative.

Yeah, and that's like kind of never really like your thing.

What, negativity?

No, you're actually like a

glass half-full kind of gale.

Oh my, thanks.

I mean, I try, and also, like, I've read enough of our podcast reviews to know that, like, people really get pressed when we complain a lot.

So, I feel like we can only have one complainer.

Honestly, I think people who, I'm about to say something crazy, like, we might need to take out of the podcast.

Just think about it.

We're not taking it out, so think about it.

I think that people who complain, okay, people who complain that we complain too much are anti-Semitic because that is like a Jewish trait.

It is in our blood.

And if you don't like it, like, you need to check your anti-Semitism at the door.

That's obviously a joke.

Like, please don't come for me.

I just thought it was funny.

No, like, as Jews, we do complain.

Yeah, and honestly, like, that's actually a great joke for, like, a comedy club.

I should write that down.

Yeah.

It's not really like a podcast-friendly joke.

Yeah, but these days we do have a lot to complain about, and it has nothing to do with being just Jewish and complaining.

But not today.

There's a lot of joyousness in the air.

It's 75 degrees.

It's sunny.

We have an amazing show.

Not only is it Wednesday, which is like always a great day because it's hump day energy.

We have Dear Toasters, our advice segment, but we also have an interview at the end of today's episode.

If you're listening as a podcast, you can just keep listening.

If you're watching on YouTube, there's a separate video.

We have Remy Bader from TikTok.

She is the realistic try on realistic.

Try on haul.

Try on haul queen of TikTok.

She was so funny.

She was so real.

And I think you guys are really going to like the interview.

So that's at the end of today's episode as a podcast and just our next video on YouTube.

She was great and so many people requested her.

So I think it's just a good day.

It is a good day.

We do have a great show for you today.

So we're going to get into it.

We're going to take advantage of the space that you're in and deliver the news that you need to know, as we always do.

We're just deliverers.

Oh, for everybody who's wondering how my two a day went yesterday.

Oh, yeah.

It went really well.

Like, it was really seamless.

I feel like by the second workout, I kind of had forgotten about the first one.

I didn't really feel fatigued.

Matt from the Live Method said it was my best workout ever.

And he's been saying that like every workout now.

So I just feel like that means I keep getting better.

You don't know why?

Why?

Exercise gave you endorphins.

Endorphins make you happy.

Happy people just don't kill their husbands.

They just don't.

Yeah.

That's why maybe I am going to kill my husband because I have no endorphins.

I don't know how to exercise.

Because I do two a-day naps.

Maybe that's why.

Yeah, maybe that's why.

So everything was good.

People were wondering what I do with my hair when I like exercise before the toast.

I just don't wash it when I shower.

I wound up, I showered twice yesterday and took one bath because of the...

Because of the two a day.

Wow.

I had to shower after each workout and then I bathed before bed.

I don't know why I like can't picture you in a bath.

Picture it.

It's

something to see.

Something to see.

I just can't envision you getting into a tub.

Well, you know what?

Usually it happens very slowly because I make the water too hot.

So I'm standing there waiting for it to cool.

It's fucking worse.

Like your feet are burning when you put them in.

And I just like, I feel so stupid, like hunched over waiting to get in.

So I just sort of like burn my whole body.

Yeah, no, that gets worse.

Well, that's because you're inexperienced.

No, I mean, sometimes it's the right temperature, but sometimes it's lukewarm.

And I'm like, I'd rather just push myself.

Does your bath nozzle have temperatures on it?

No, otherwise it wouldn't be such a gamble.

Mine does, and it's like actually like a huge thing.

Like the privilege of having temperature on your shower or bath nozzle is so

like it's just one of those underrated things that like now that I have it, I don't know how, if I ever move, like how I'm going to live without it.

No, it takes out all the guesswork and some of us are just going in blind.

Yeah, no, you're literally going in blind when it's like, I know exactly like to a T Fahrenheit what I'm getting into.

Wow.

Yeah.

That's beautiful.

Yeah, it is.

I feel like we should just dive in because there's like so much to discuss.

Okay.

Yeah, I don't think there's anything else that I need to share because it just was like a standard day.

Nothing crazy.

I went to dinner last night, watched Rahoni.

Oh, I went to a comedy show last night.

How was?

It was crazy to see, it wasn't in a club.

New York Comedy Club is doing like outdoor shows on this like rooftop in Flatiron.

It was so nice.

And our friend Kristen, who we went to Nashville with, her now husband, they got married in COVID, did a set and it was so good.

And it was just like, what a different experience like to not only see comedy outside, but like, I feel like in the past six months since things have started to reopen, I've just been doing like the same thing over and over again, like dinner, you know, but it was like a new activity and it was really fun.

A new sensation.

So, support your local comedians.

I tried to go, but I showed up at the wrong place and I missed it.

That's so you.

That's so me.

That's so jacky.

Like, literally, arrived only to realize I arrived at the wrong place.

Right, because you went to the comedy club, and they're not doing it at the comedy club.

They were doing it on this rooftop.

No one thought to tell me.

It was really fun.

Yeah, I guess that's that on that.

And without further ado, to do to do,

where are you?

By the way, he is here.

He's just.

He's off camera.

He's feeling shy today.

Yeah, he's just been feeling a little insecure and, you know, taking time for himself.

But without further ado.

After two breakfast tigs, he's just been like really carrying that weight around.

But that spirit of the two breakfast tigs lives on.

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Without further ado, to do to do, here are the fast die stories that you to do to do need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast.

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Okay, first story, something that's been like making the rounds.

Shanna Moekler, Moachler.

Moachler.

No, Moekler, I think.

Yeah, it's one of those names I'll probably never get right.

Is claiming that she caught Travis Barker and Kim Kardashian having an affair.

Shanna Moachler claims she once caught Travis Barker

having an affair with Kim Kardashian, the younger sister of his current girlfriend, Courtney Kardashian.

Moachler said she divorced Barker back in 2000.

Moachler.

Moachler!

She said that she divorced him because of his tryst with Kim.

She said, I divorced my ex because I saw them.

I caught them having an affair.

The model confirmed that she was referring to Kim, who met Barker when she was working as Paris Hilton's assistant in the early 2000s.

A source close to Kim told Page 6 on Wednesday morning that there is zero truth to these claims.

So Shanna is saying that Kim and Travis hooked up and she caught it and that's why they got a divorce.

And Kim's camp is saying like this, there's this denial.

No way.

Well, there's just

a few things to unpack here.

One, the fact that Travis Barker and Kim like might have broken up his marriage.

And two, the fact that Courtney is now dating Travis.

No, to me, the only thing that matters is that Courtney is now dating Travis because like what Kim did in the early 2000s with whomever

is irrelevant to me.

You want to know why?

Because I feel like, and this is people who like watch a Kardashians religiously and like feel like they know Kim, they really know that she had this image of being like a sex symbol and that she had the sex tape and she had this like kind of raunchy

reputation.

And she was like, actually, nothing like that.

She was like super shy and she didn't drink.

Like there's this perception of her, but it's not really who she is.

And I feel like

this is kind of just like feeding into like what people think about Kim.

But at the end of the day, like, I don't think Kim would ever do this.

Kim is so family-oriented.

Like,

she's a child of divorce.

Like, I don't know.

Like, I just just feel like I know Kim and I know that she wouldn't do this.

Yeah, but there are like a lot of quotes going around now from like various interviews that Travis had done at the time about how he couldn't keep his eyes off Kim.

And like to me, I could.

No, but like, I don't care about

Travis and Shanna's like marriage and whether or not Kim broke it up.

Like I seriously don't care.

I can't tell you why.

I just am wondering like if Courtney is dating someone that her sister hooked up with because like to me, that's so that's a no-no.

It's incest.

Even 20 years later.

Incest.

Yeah.

I don't know.

It is 20 years.

Let's say they did.

Let's just play devil's advocate.

Let's say they did.

It's 20 years later and it really feels like this is the love of Courtney's life.

And some people are saying that she's pregnant because she put up this weird, ominous fucking Instagram post, Pinkalicious, like, and Christmas tree, like, maybe she's due in December.

There were all these different hints.

I actually watched a TikTok that did kind of convince me that she was pregnant.

Whatever.

I don't believe it.

So let's say for argument's sake that they did fuck, but now it's 20 years later.

Courtney's head over heels in love with Travis.

Travis is head over heels in love with Courtney.

Like, I actually think I can move past it, even though that's like a huge, no-no.

If you read my book, you know, it was like one of our rules growing up, like, you don't kiss the same boy as your sister.

But I might be able to get past this one.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I just really hope it's not true so I don't have to get past it.

Think about it.

You know, and I'm sure eventually, like, say it was true.

And I, and I took the time, like, I do think I can get past it also.

And it's clear that they've gotten past it if it is true.

I just like really hope that it's not because like that's a real bummer.

Like, and if Travis is the love of Courtney's life, it's just like always like he had sex with her sister.

Yeah.

And it's like, you couldn't just like not do one thing 20 years ago because you don't know how it impacts your life 20 years from now.

Also, I do think that these allegations or whatever you want to call them are coming out at an interesting time because there's also a lot of drama with Alabama Barker, who is Travis and Channa's daughter.

And she's been like posting TikToks, basically alleging that her mom was absentee and all these kind of

crazy allegations.

So I just feel like maybe that's an attempt to discredit Shanna.

I don't know.

There's just like a lot to unpack from the Alabama Barker, Shanna Moechler, Travis Barker, Courtney Kardashian, Kim Kardashian saga.

And I'm kind of like living for it, I'm not going to lie.

Yeah, I just, there's one side of saying this is like, they're just such different recollections of what happened.

Let's say they did fuck.

Kim's Camp will not be like, yeah, we did.

No, but like, they might not, they might just ignore her because like, who is she?

No, that's a great question.

Who is Kim Camp?

This article says model.

Oh.

Me too.

Same thing.

So yeah, that's just like an interesting turn of events.

That's a little incest news for everyone

are you ready for our next story which is taking us back in time because i really am you are you look ready no i'm feeling so positive and at peace and i've never been more ready for anything than i am for this next story good i'd love to hear that i just feel like i exuded such negative vibes yesterday like i need to make up for it okay yeah sure let's try something new let's try something new yeah

Misha Barton is saying that bullying on the OC set led to her exit.

She said, I just felt very unprotected.

Okay, so Misha Barton spoke to e-news.

I read this whole article about how this writer at enews like just wanted just thought like she would email misha and like see what happened there and misha just opened up the floodpage misha just responded and shared her truth before we start i just want to say like i have so much love in my heart for for misha barton like i think she's a gem i loved her on the hills last season loved and i just think she's kind of uh kind of how people talk about Brittany and how like she's like an example of what the media can do and how they're so evil.

I feel like Misha Barton is one of those as well.

Yeah, I totally agree.

I wish she was back on the hills.

I thought thought she was a great character.

Would have loved to see more from her.

I don't know why they turned.

Like, when they picked her up, I didn't know why they did that.

And when they dropped her, I didn't know why they did that.

Yeah, no, once they picked her up, I was like, what?

And then I watched it.

I was like, oh, this is an interesting gal.

She's a young, fabulous Hollywood gal.

Stories to tell, things to say, vengeances to avenge.

And then they just dropped her off.

Maybe she didn't want to be in anymore, but like, I thought she was great.

I thought she was great too.

But so now she's responding to emails about what happened on the set of the OC.

So all of this is being communicated via email.

Yes, I believe so.

Okay, and maybe they got on the phone, but she reached out to her via email just because I guess she was up one night wondering why Misha was killed off the OC.

I actually relate to this article.

So, she said there were people on spoiler alert.

Right.

There were people on that set that were very mean to me.

It wasn't like the most ideal environment for a young, sensitive girl who's also been thrust into stardom to have to put up with.

She said, Sometime during season two, things got more difficult for her, the hours got longer, and the producers started evening out everybody's pay after promoting her co-star Rachel Bilson, because I guess Summer wasn't meant to be a full-time cast member.

But she was such a star in that first season.

How could you not?

She became one of the core four and I guess they took her paycheck from some, like, from everyone else's.

So do they demote Misha's payment or they just brought some of them?

They might have just like demoted everyone.

Got it.

She said, and sort of general bullying from some of the men on the set that felt kind of really shitty.

But, you know, I also love the show and I had to build up my own walls and ways of getting around dealing with that and the fame that was thrust specifically at me.

Just dealing with like the amount of invasion I was having in my personal life, I just felt very unprotected, I guess, is the best way to put it.

So, she said that the showrunners came to her and they were like, they didn't force her off the show or anything.

They were like, we could let you go in a way that's kind of mysterious and have you come back, or we could end it finally, and you can go move on and do whatever you want.

And I guess she had like other offers coming in because she was at the height of her career.

She's like, no, I want to take all these things that I haven't been able to take, and I want to go.

And I think when she filmed it and when she made that choice, she had no idea that it was going to be like the cultural thing that it was, like, hallelujah, Marissa Cooper, like being carried through the streets.

Yeah.

And so she just made the choice to like move on with her career.

Well, I honestly can't tell if that was the right decision because it did become this actual phenomenon.

Like the way you just think of one of the most iconic moments in TV history, it has to be in like the top 10.

But she didn't really have much of a career after that.

So it's like, which would you take?

The iconic moment or the...

longevity?

I think the longevity, but in hindsight, like, you know, she, and a lot of people do this, I think, like, it's probably frustrating right here at the peak of your career, but you're stuck to this thing.

So you can't take other opportunities, but maybe you choose the wrong opportunities and then it's all downhill from there.

I think that a lot about the kids from Riverdale, how they became so famous so fast, and they literally work every single day, 365 in Canada.

Like, they're so limited in what they can do outside of the show that they grew huge followings.

The show became huge.

And then the show just kind of dwindled.

And like, I just don't think of them as, they're super famous, but I don't think of them as like the mega stars that they were for like that one year.

And they couldn't really do much after that.

Well, I just feel like they're still doing stuff, and I feel, but I also feel like they make weird choices.

Like

Madeline in that movie, F the Prom, that was like so terrible.

I just think they're very limited in what they can do contractually, and not only timing

because they only get like a few months off, but like, and then also, like, I'm sure your contract is like, you can't do a TV show with ABC, you know what I mean?

Like, they're limited in what they can actually accept, and then timing of it all.

I feel like Cami does the best job, me too, because she was in that spooky movie that was on Netflix

that was like during quarantine.

What was the premise?

It was like a

horror movie.

Yeah, she was in Palm Springs, which like was

a mainstream success.

Let me look at I agree with you.

I do think that she does the best job of balancing Riverdale and other work, but it's like a blessing and a curse to become so famous on a TV show because those TV shows, especially the ones that have like 22 episodes a season, like you don't get to work otherwise or really even live.

Yeah, I think the movie was called Dangerous Lies, which just goes, it was like a lifetime

type of movie, but it was was on netflix and i think it did really well it was like it was um

what are those movies called that are like

thrillers coming up the stairs you know mystery like sort of scary like a scary movie sure got it i think i'm curious to know what the word you're looking for is i don't know maybe spooky spooky thriller thriller let's click on the movie let's see how it describes itself it's probably a scary movie that's like a genre yeah

Okay, anyways, I guess there were dangerous lies, so it definitely was scary because it was so dangerous.

So, yes, I agree with you, like Marissa Cooper.

It's a weird thing.

Like, you become so famous, you become like best friends with your castmates, and then it kind of like dwindles because you're limited in what you can do outside of the show, and the show goes on for a long time.

I can't believe Riverdale's still on the air.

Yeah, and I feel like we're Rachel Bilson and Adam Brody were dating in real life.

Yeah, that helped them a lot.

I'm sure that helps.

Like, you feel like you have someone in your corner, and she probably just felt out on her own.

Yes, and I do also think that, like,

one of the weirdest things that I've ever experienced is the fact that Adam Brody and Rachel Bilson dated for so long and then he got married to Leighton Meester, who's literally Fatel Filson and who like literally comes from the same exact career.

No, it's it's not even that she's Fatchel Filson.

It's that Seth Cohen and Blair Waldorf literally got married.

No, and also like Summer Summer Roberts and Blair Waldorf were like the same

type of character and they had the same a similar career.

So I just think that's like the weird and they look alike too.

So like when I see pictures, I'm like, is that an old picture with Rachel Bilson or a current picture with Leighton Meester?

Yeah, no, it's shocking.

And I think just another interesting factoid that a lot of people don't really like remember is that Leighton Meester was born in prison.

Yeah.

That's a crazy story.

And they like kind of referenced that in Country Strong

because it was like, you know, Child Stanton was hiding this huge secret about her past.

What was it?

That her parents were in jail.

Exactly.

Great movie if you haven't seen it.

Who hasn't seen it?

Like, probably a lot of people.

And that's what's wrong with the world.

Like, everyone has seen it.

Have everyone seen it?

We're going to have a mandatory viewing.

I don't know if you're going to have to.

I'm definitely has not.

No.

Okay, ready for our next story?

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Okay, our love news.

ASAP Rocky says girlfriend Rihanna is the one.

I saw this and I totally forgot that they were dating, but I'm like reminded again and now I'm happy again.

He said when you know, you know.

The rapper told GQ for the magazine's June, July 2021 cover story a bit about his romance with Rihanna, gushing that she is the love of my life, my lady.

When asked what it feels like to be in a relationship, he said, so much better, so much better when you got the one.

She amounts to probably like a million of the other ones.

So true.

I think when you know, you know, she's the one.

He also shared his thoughts on starting a family, saying that fatherhood is, quote, in my destiny.

Absolutely.

I think I'd be an incredible, remarkably overall amazing dad.

I would have a very fly child.

Very.

So true.

This is the thing.

Like, Brianna's just like that bitch.

Like, she's like the Elizabeth Taylor of our generation like how the most eligible men in the world used to like buy elizabeth taylor like the boats and the diamonds and just for a chance to be in her presence and that is literally brianna like every fucking eligible you know that saudi prince billionaire drake everyone who's fucking upset literally they just fawn over her and she's like yes it's fine i'll take the boat so it's just like

It's hard to see someone living your dream because I really for you know a while really did think I was the Elizabeth Taylor of our generation But but it's very clear but you were just snatched up so quickly you never had time

i never had time to grow into it yeah but like i'm really like i i just made that reference in my mind and like it's true or maybe like the marilyn monroe like yeah yeah but they're it's the same it's the same thing and that's rihan evelyn hugo yes that is rihanna yeah i totally agree i think that's a great column it's like the least you can hope for is that when someone possesses this diamond of the season that they can recognize that that's what they have and and i think she's recognized no i think that he's recognized yeah like that she's a million of the other girls.

Yeah.

And I'm happy for them.

I think they're a cute couple.

I don't think I've ever seen a photo of them like together.

Here's a photo of them together, but it's, I don't know when it's from.

That looks like literally like Photoshop together.

They're so far apart.

But like because her hand's on his shoulder.

You know that it's real.

Yeah, but it could still be Photoshop, I guess.

Anything can happen.

They're really cute.

I'm happy for them.

And that's a really sweet article.

I love when people like publicly gush about their partners in interviews like when Tiffany Haddish like went on and on about common.

Yeah, but also when people gush about like how much they love being in a relationship you know i just think it sets a nice example like because i feel like sometimes being in a relationship like isn't the coolest thing to do it's like you're whipped bro yay exactly but no it's such a lame thing to say no and like until yeah no i just to tastemaker is making like relationships cool making tastes making taste 100 but that's also how i feel about like Justin Bieber and Haley, like getting married so young, and I just think it makes that like a cool thing to do.

And really, you could do whatever you want with your life.

It's just always like.

I agree.

I know what you're saying.

I agree.

I agree.

It's nice.

Are you ready for our next story?

Yeah, of course.

The dear Evan Hansen trailer is here.

And there's drama.

Claudia told me there's drama, which is shocking.

I just want to share my initial thoughts because Zach was watching it in the car.

I watched the 10, I watched, you put on your story, so I watched 10 seconds of it enough to know that Ben Platt is playing.

Evan Hansen.

Yes.

And I overheard the trailer and I just felt like they gave away the entire movie.

Okay, I thought the same thing.

It was like a 45-minute trailer and like literally from start to finish.

I've just seen the movie.

No, and there's there's like kind of like a big kind of twist in the play, and like they like pruned it.

Did you know what I'm talking about?

No, I know, like, they literally had every song in the trailer, like the whole plot, like dear Evan Hansen, Connor, Connor, yeah, like Connor,

like all the different highs and lows of Evan and Connor.

I agree, they gave too much away, they gave too much away.

It was an experience, I loved it because I'm gonna see the movie, and I feel like I saw like a part of it.

It was stunning.

Like, the music, I love Ben Platt, I'm like, literally, his number one fan.

I commented on the trailer, and he liked my comment.

Oh my god, that is so rewarding.

I'm so excited.

I forgot how good the music was.

I'm going to do a run today on the treadmill.

I'm going to listen to that soundtrack because like you will be found.

I had chills just eavesdropping from the trailer and Pasic and Paul, my kings.

Yeah, so it's the greatest showman guys.

It's perfect.

But it's like all this time when we were like, you know, hyping up the greatest showman, we're like, it's the DR Van Hansen guys.

And like now finally people understand like how good that is.

And now they're the greatest showman guys.

Yeah, and they were also the La La Land guys, if you're into that sort of thing.

I like, I know it's not a personality trait to think that La La Land was the worst movie ever, but like I fully believe that it is my personality.

I think he says a lot about your personality.

Yeah, no, it's just like, I think maybe I disliked it because everyone liked it so much.

And I'm just like, so like, not like other girls.

You're not like other girls.

I don't know why, but I digress.

So you didn't really know, and I only knew because I'm on Broadway TikTok because like I literally watch videos of Jessica Vosk singing as wicked like every day.

And so my algorithm gives me like Broadway news.

There was some drama a couple weeks ago with some guy, but everyone was like going on and on about Ben Platt being selected as Evan Hansen.

And they thought it was problematic for two reasons.

One, because he's 27 and I think the character is supposed to be 16 or like 17, whatever, like high school.

When has that ever mattered in Hollywood?

And the other thing is that like maybe there were more eligible people to play Ben, to play Evan Hanson who have all, who have been on Broadway.

Like there's this guy who's currently Evan Hanson on Broadway and he's 19.

So people thought he might be more eligible, but that Ben Platt only got the role because his dad, who works in Hollywood, Hollywood, is the producer of the movie.

Okay.

So there's two issues.

One, the age thing, which I think is so fucking stupid.

Like, where was all this energy when like four 90-year-olds were playing high schoolers on Pretty Little Liars?

Like, nobody fucking cares.

Regina George was 26.

Like, who cares?

No, literally, nobody cares.

We're going to care now.

Also, he originated that role.

And didn't he, like, write this show?

So he won the Tony for it.

He worked with Pasich and Paul.

Like, he was a part.

I don't know if he wrote it, but I know that he was involved from the origin.

Like, he was a part of making it what it was.

He showed.

He popularized it.

He won the Tony Ford.

And honestly, I'm sure there are a lot of people who do it amazing.

I haven't seen anyone besides Ben Platt, but like he is the Barbara Streisand, a funny girl.

You would never make a funny girl movie and not put Barbar Streisand.

You know what I mean?

He is Evan Hanson.

When I saw the trailer, it sounded like his voice.

So I was like, oh, okay, it's Ben Platt.

But like, if it wasn't going to be

Ben Platt, I was going to be disappointed.

But it's also really crazy that like Evan Hanson came out or Pete, like, was at the pinnacle like five or six years ago, and it's already a movie.

Whereas like Wicked still isn't a a movie.

Well, there's a lot of drama with the wicked movie.

Oh, share the drama with me.

But also, I would hope, I mean, now it's probably too late, but if there ever was a wicked movie, I would want it to be a Dina Menzel and Christian Janowitz, of course, the people who popularized the show.

Yeah.

100%.

What's the drama?

Like, so, like, five years ago, they announced a wicked movie.

We reported this on the show, so I don't know if you remember.

And then they gave like a launch date or like a launch month, and that launch month was like a year ago.

So people were like repopulating the tweet and being like, the movie's supposed to come out this month.

Like, what happened?

I do believe it's like still in the works, but I don't think it's going to be anytime.

It doesn't bode well.

Who's in it?

They don't say anything yet.

And honestly, like, if they just got Passek and Paul on the job, we would be fine.

Yeah.

Well, the music is written, but I think it should be Dove Cameron and Ariana Grande.

Or no?

No, I don't think so.

Ariana Grande.

And

who were...

We already had this.

As Alcoba?

I forget.

I don't know.

We already figured this out.

They don't need to be that young, though.

I guess they go to college, right?

In Wicked?

Yeah, Shiz University.

So, yeah.

And then the other thing.

I do go to Shiz.

The other thing people are all pressed about is the nepotism of it all.

And honestly, I think I've said this before on the show.

Like, I'm so unbothered by nepotism.

I'm like, so jealous of it because I have like the opposite of nepotism, like, whatever that is.

I'm, I'm happy for them.

Like, if you can get it, like, do it.

Like, I would do it too.

Like, we're all liars.

Like, oh, my dad's producing a movie.

Wait, let's play this out.

My dad's producing a movie of the play that I starred and popularized.

If any popular nepotism in the other way, where it's like, his dad only got the producer title.

How qualified is his dad?

Because his son wrote the movie.

It's reverse nepotism.

100%.

I just like don't care.

If anything, you should have been angry when this like one-time show writer got a show on Broadway because his dad was in the industry.

Yeah.

Like that was the time to be angry.

No, but also I would be angry if he wasn't

so qualified for the role.

Like I think there's, and I'm not going to like out people, but I think there's a lot of people who have gotten famous like based on their parents attributes.

And like they're not that great or talented and I don't understand the hype.

It's only the hype because their parents are superstars.

Ben Platt is not one of those people.

I think he would have become a bigger, just as big of a star if he didn't have the connections that he did.

Yeah.

So sometimes like the talent matches, and that's really all I care about.

Ben Platt is going to be amazing in it, so everyone can just fuck off.

Yeah, no, I'm really excited.

The Broadway stands, though, on TikTok are fucking depressed.

Like, there's real problems going on in the world.

Yeah.

Are you ready for it for the final story?

I think it's some news that's going to make you even happier than you already are.

The final story.

What is it?

It's a little fast food wars news that's gonna

every time we talk about fast food I have

I have it for lunch excuse me.

Well now I know what you can order next.

Okay.

Burger King launches a new chicken sandwich nationwide called the Chick King.

Oh, it's a good name.

Yep, Burger King's new chicken sandwich is here and it's entering a market that's more crowded than ever.

The burger chain first announced its new sandwich in February.

Since then, it's been rolling out the sandwich.

I love when sandwiches get rolled out.

Rolled out.

They're like a little late.

Like, I feel like there's been like a conversation about where the best chicken sandwich is from for a while.

They have been, but you know what?

I'm happy for this news because, personally, like when we used to go, when we were driving and we would all want fast food like last year, I would want to stop at Burger King for the

what's it called?

McPlant.

No, but they had.

The Impossible Burger.

Yeah, but it was like

they had a cute name for it, I thought.

What is it?

The Impossible Burger.

Impossible Whopper.

Okay.

And then we would go over to McDonald's for you.

So like now we can all eat it.

We all know

that Burger King.

Let me tell you why.

Okay.

First of all, because when I go to fast food, unless I'm scratching my nose in case anyone's eating it.

She's not picking your nose.

When I go to fast food, I get chicken nuggets.

And I actually really don't like the nuggets from Burger King because they're tenders, not nuggets, and I just prefer nuggets.

So I'll still always go to McDonald's also because McDonald's fries are so supreme.

Like even the best fry from Burger King doesn't stand a chance against the worst fry from McDonald's.

Like there's just no competition.

So we'll still have to drive to both stores.

Okay.

Also, I don't really, I love chicken sandwiches, but not at fast food places.

There's just like so many better options for me.

Whereas, like, okay, like in a restaurant, I'll order like a grilled chicken sandwich.

Oh, my.

Okay, so never mind.

I mean, I'll try it for our mukbang that we're never gonna film.

Never mind.

No, no, it's it's good.

We'll just take this story back.

No, no, don't.

I love

fast food news.

Throw it in the garbage.

Okay.

My negativity is seeping back out.

If you're in the chicken sandwich business fan club, you've got another one to try.

Another one.

Nice.

I literally love that.

Remember, like the time when DJ Khaled blew up Snapchat?

Yeah, but do you also remember the time when like Kanye and Kim announced they were having another baby and Mason Disick said another one.

No, I don't remember that.

Oh my god, it's so exciting.

Where did he say it?

On keeping up.

He's such a good one.

And Kanye was laughing so hard.

Oh my God, got to go back and find the clip.

Yeah, no, it was really cute.

Should we talk about Real Housewives of New York, which was like so boring last night?

Yes, we shall.

I thought it was interesting.

I thought it was interesting too because I felt conflicted because I really feel like Ramona Singer lying about donating her plasma, which I think we came to that conclusion.

I do think like for a second, Ramona thought that she did donate plasma just when she got tested because she's like, you know, not that in tune with the medical community.

But I think she's known for a while that she didn't actually donate it and let the lie continue.

So I think that's like really low and like classless.

Like I think that's like one of the worst things you can do.

I know.

But,

but I think like Leah was really bothering me last night.

She was was just like being the police, like to everyone.

She was being like the plasma police, even though like she was justified in just like wanting to prove her point.

She was just like being really harsh.

And then she was being like the Fose police.

She was just being like the policewoman.

Yeah.

I have, I feel very conflicted about it.

Do is there something that you need to say before we get into it, or can we get into the recap?

I've been in it for like a minute.

No, no, but you're holding your curds.

Oh, no, no, no, no.

I'm just protective over my curds.

Sorry.

I was like, have you not been listening to me?

No, I'm just holding my curds.

Sorry.

Okay,

keep your curds close and safe.

No, keep your cards close and your curds closer.

Okay, yes.

I feel extremely conflicted over Leah because generally speaking, like,

I really am here for her as a person.

And I think that she's such a great thinker sometimes, you know?

That's such a good way to put it.

And she,

and like, really, sometimes when she goes for something, I'm like, yes, yes, yes.

But with this Ramona Plasma stuff, she came for Ramona so hard in the beginning of COVID because she was going to Florida and then she like got COVID.

And I understand at the time that Leah felt like that was the right thing to do.

But now it's like eight months since then.

Like in hindsight, like I don't know why she's going so hard again, where she could have looked back on it and been like, well, Ramona did have antibodies and she was like, like she wasn't.

doing anything so crazy but at the time everything felt crazy but now in hindsight it's like oh she was just in florida and she had antibodies yeah i don't really feel like ramona like traveling from new york to florida is like a big deal but Leah is like still harping on the like that Ramona was like irresponsible during COVID because she like posted her cooking thing on her Instagram.

Well, so it's like and her workout when it's flashed back to the reunion and Leah's like going after Ramona for posting her workout on her stories.

I'm like, that's like not a big deal.

That's what I'm saying.

But the entire fucking world did that.

So like maybe in a moment you saw it and you felt like it was tone deaf, but that's like not something that I would bring up again as like something that she did wrong because that's what the whole world was doing.

Yeah.

So like that was sort of bothering me.

I feel like what happened with Ramona is that she thought she donated plasma because something was like taken from her.

They took her blood.

They took something from her and she thought that that was plasma.

I agree, but I think she's known for a while.

And I think when she told the press that she donated plasma, she really thought that she did.

I agree.

Afterwards, she learned that that was not what happened.

But Leah is really trying to embarrass her and make her look like a terrible person as if she lied intently.

Whereas I think that when she said it, she wasn't lying.

I agree with you completely.

I've asked Ramona for a while.

Like, I don't know why Leah, like, her and Leah aren't beefing right now.

So I don't know why Leah feels like she needs to embarrass her in front of everyone and like make her admit that she was wrong.

I think that for a while Ramona Singer went to bed every night like truly believing she helped someone.

I believe that.

I don't think she's a bad person.

Like I don't think she would intentionally lie because that's like fucked up.

I don't think that she did that.

And I understand Leah like wanting to like make the point, but like she went so hard.

She was just being like a Karen.

And I'm like, chill.

And then it was just like, that was the energy she had throughout the whole day.

Like, honestly, what she said to Luann, I think she, I think she did have good intentions.

But then Leanne, Luann was literally like, you're literally doing the same thing with your mocktail.

Like, and Luann was right.

Yes.

I think I understood what Lee was trying to say because it is like a crutch for Luann.

And eventually she'll have to learn how to walk on her own.

But I think like telling her about it while she's doing it and like leaning on her crutch, like, that's just not that helpful.

But I do feel like her heart was in the right place.

And like Luann did come to her and say, like, we're in this together.

Like, I want to lean on you.

And so I think Leah thought she was just being a friend.

yeah whereas everybody in the group has been getting along she's staying at ramona's house and she wants to bring this thing up to make like ramona embarrassed and look bad in front of everyone eight months later i don't i i wasn't supportive of it that's the thing i i forgot they're all staying at ramona's house and it's you say what you want about ramona but like she is the host and she's doing like a nice job and you just don't like attack someone like that when they're you're literally staying at their house yes and then also i'm not understanding leah's point of view with this heather stuff so then i thought she was also being policewoman when it's like what are we gonna say to heather when she gets here?

What time does she get here?

What should we say?

Let me pull up the articles.

Just in case it's just in case you forgot or you missed what she said, here's what she said, getting the whole group riled up against Heather.

And by the way, they didn't even pull up anything that Heather had said about Leah.

So Leah's getting mad on like Luann and Sonia's behalf when Luann and Sonia seem to not give a shit.

Right, and it seems like whatever Heather said about Luann, like not being authentic, like we all recognize that there's an old Lou and a new Lou.

Like even the way that she has done a complete 180 about how to address herself to a driver.

Yes.

So Heather knew Luann when she really was that like inauthentic camera to her countess lady.

So like I don't find that to be offensive.

I think she does hard drugs is mean and also saying Sonia's

she said that the night in Saint Barton

that there was drugs.

Maybe there was drugs.

And I, we also, I think we said this last week that that is like so far in the past.

And Luann has been through so much since then.

Like, sure, it's like not that cool, but it's like not recent enough.

I might just be biased because I actually like love Heather.

Yeah, Yeah, I like her too.

I think she's a nice girl.

I think she's a nice girl.

I think she's like a good businesswoman.

I think I think like her time on the show, which she left voluntarily, which is very rare, I think she was like a good friend.

She was like really good friends with Carol and Kristen Takeman.

Like I, she didn't give me any reason not to like her.

Her hollers were a little annoying, but other than that, there's no reason to dislike her so much.

So I'm just like, Leah's coming on really strong.

It's making me think like, what happened off camera?

Like, how do you know Leah?

How do you know Heather?

Like, what's going on here?

Because like to have so much energy and detest for someone who literally hasn't said anything about you, who you, I think, don't even know.

Yeah.

It's bizarre.

So she's just giving me like policewoman vibes.

That's how I felt too, but I still really likely.

I was just like not understanding where she's coming from.

Yeah.

And obviously the big ta-da was Sonia Morgan getting like so fucked up.

And like, honestly, it was funny.

Like we're working with so little here.

Like, and I've never thought I would say this, but this is like just kind of the cycle of housewives.

It's like you hate a housewife so much because like their behavior is atrocious.

And then when they leave, like it is kind of boring.

And it's like, even though I did not like or appreciate most of what dorinda brought to the table like i am bored without her like i really am so the craziest thing is like sonia got drunk like who cares i know i i have even when you said like someone left because of their behavior i forgot who you were talking about and now i realize you were talking about dorinda i don't miss her for one second they should have brought in more new past members a hundred percent because five just isn't enough we should have had they should have brought in one more new person and an old person which i think heather was supposed to be yeah but i think that her and leah in this particular weekend in the Hamptons get into it really bad, and Heather leaves, like, so she doesn't film the rest of the season.

Right.

So that's what it's back down to five.

And Ebony is great, but she's just like a little boring.

Yeah.

So just her being the sole focus of all the new energy, I don't think it's enough.

I agree.

I totally agree with that.

But she was the only one dressed right for the day.

Okay.

So when Ronona.

It was beyond stunning.

When Ramona was being the fashion police to Leah McSweeney, Ramona needed to arrest herself with that big fucking knee-length vest.

Yeah, she took it off and she changed.

Leah looked great.

Leah looked like I was just cool and different.

I would not wear that outfit, but I appreciate it for Leah.

Like, I like that she has a sense of style, that it's different from, yeah, someone would wear that top with black jeans or those pants with a black top.

Like, because that's, but like, her outfit at Sonia's Garden, like, she does it in Leah's way.

She does it in her own way.

And it's like, and she cares what Leah's wearing.

She also looks amazing in everything, so it really doesn't.

It's actually unfair.

Yeah.

So, yeah, it was like a fine episode.

Jersey's on tonight.

Not the finale, part two of the reunion.

Yeah.

I didn't watch part one yet, so we'll just recap the reunion.

No, part one of the reunion.

The finale was last week.

Oh, I didn't watch the finale.

Okay.

Because I was, oh, we were in Nashville.

So two episodes.

We'll recap that tomorrow.

Yeah.

Anything else on tonight?

Beverly Hills?

Beverly Hills.

No way.

No way.

Beverly Hills.

That's

like a sneak peek, and it's lunch or dinner with Garcel and Lisa Rina.

And And Garcel is like holding Lisa Lisa Rina to the fire for what she did to Denise.

And Lisa Rina's like, I shouldn't have been so hard on Denise.

But it's like, where is that energy last?

Bring Denise back.

Justice for fucking Denise.

Bring Denise back.

I love Garcel for being such a good friend.

Like, even though Denise is off the show, still bringing it up, getting accountability.

Yeah, but Rina is just like a political animal and she will say anything.

Yes.

Now that Denise is gone, she'll say, it doesn't matter what she says.

Now she did what she needs to do.

So she just.

Yeah.

I can't wait.

Wow, what a good night.

I was gonna go out to dinner, but I think I shouldn't.

No, I think you need to stay in for this one.

Me too, ordering a pizza.

I had such a traumatic, like such a first world problem with my dinner last night, but like when you're when you're so hungry and your food's just not coming, like I don't think there's anything worse.

Like me and Ben order from a sushi place.

They have two locations and Ben insisted that we order not from the one two blocks away, but from the one 30 blocks away because he thinks it's better.

He was just being a baby and I was like, okay, fine, whatever.

So the food gets prepared and the courier picks it up and the courier is on foot.

So I feel so bad.

I'm making this guy walk 30 blocks because Ben prefers.

It was such a mess.

It took two hours to get my food.

It was freezing cold.

And I was like so mad.

So I just like, I'm not going to ever let my dinner get out of hand like that again.

No, that's good.

I'm ordering for myself.

Ben, you can order whatever, like, fucking, order from Brooklyn for all I care.

Like, I'm taking care of.

You got to look out for yourself.

Nobody's looking out for you.

Nobody's looking out for you.

I was so upset.

I'm so sorry.

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Hi, Jackie and Claudia.

I recently got engaged to my fiancé who happens to be 100% Italian, which has tremendous perks, an abundance of meat sauce, homemade cookies around all the time, et cetera, et cetera.

Unfortunately, it also comes with major drums.

A few months before getting engaged, my sister-in-law Meadow and my mother-in-law Carmella.

Oh, these are from the Somranos.

Okay.

I'm like, that's a weird, like, mostly people just use like Sarah.

No, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Meadow.

My sister-in-law Meadow and mother-in-law Carmella stopped speaking.

This has been building for years as Carmella loathes Meadow's husband.

Loathe's Meadow's husband, and it has now been about six months of them not speaking at all.

Meadow has three kids that Carmella and Tony have not been able to see in six long months.

This has put my fiancé and I smack dab in the middle of this drama.

We are still speaking to both sides, but Carmella feels very strongly that we should not invite Meadow and her husband to our intimate wedding destination

destination wedding of 20 people in March.

Meanwhile, Meadow has not asked one detail about our wedding.

I know I have to invite her, but is it completely selfish that I don't want her at the wedding?

Do I have to invite her husband that the entire family despises?

Frankly, I don't want to have to deal with any of this drama on my wedding day.

Sincerely yours, a toaster that belongs on HBO.

I need to know why they hate the husband.

Like, is it just like personal stuff, or is he like a really bad person

for actual reasons that you can listen to?

Right, if it's just like dumb family drama that people are taking really seriously, I would say invite them because things like this change all the time and you don't want to like look back on your wedding photos and like not be able to include your brother and sister-in-law who like you're now, you know, 10 years in the future, close with.

Yeah.

Because weddings are just one of those things, weddings and funerals, like you just go.

Yeah.

Because drama comes and goes, unless it's like an unforgivable offense.

Right, exactly.

But it's like if they wind up reconciling and then you just like are on the out still even though this wasn't your fight, I would just invite them.

They probably won't even come.

And unless there's something like really terrible that's been done, I just think it's family and you guys are all in this together.

There's a line and if they haven't crossed it yet, you have to invite them.

Yeah.

All right, next up.

Hi, Claudia and Jackie.

I absolutely love listening to the Morning Toast every morning.

It's one of the few things that truly brighten up my morning.

I really felt compelled to share my current situation with you guys because I need to know that I'm not crazy.

Last weekend while celebrating Mother's Day with my boyfriend's family, his older brother Luke told me that someone in our small town found a website full of naked pictures pictures of some of my best friends.

I immediately shared the link with my friends, alerting them that this was happening.

Apparently, this was old news because my friend's phone got hacked two years ago and she's been fighting and failing to get them taken down because she's over the age of 18.

She asked me to tell her as much, wait, she asked me to tell her as much as possible about who resurfaced these and how I even got them.

So I explained that Luke's friend Carter received them from another group chat and shared them with this group chat of 12 people.

She was shocked to find this out because Carter was apparently her friend.

So she reached out politely to tell him that she was disappointed he didn't come to her first rather than share it with 12 other boys.

Carter proceeded to get angry with his group chat, which caused Luke to get angry with me for telling her it was Carter.

Oh, and it gets worse.

My boyfriend's parents and sister then involved themselves, so I had four of his family members yelling at me, telling me I was wrong to tell my best friend who shared the pictures.

I was speechless, disgusted, and outraged.

Why the hell do I care if Carter gets in trouble?

Shouldn't these parents know that people need to be held accountable for sharing private pictures without consent?

Am I in the wrong here?

I need to know what standing up for my friend, that standing up for my friend was the right thing to do.

It was.

I have to say that my boyfriend

immediately apologized on their behalf and tried to get them to understand my side.

How am I supposed to feel comfortable around these people again?

Please help.

And RDH toaster.

Girl, you did nothing wrong.

Like, I keep thinking if I was one of those girls whose phone got hacked, photos illegally stolen, and can't get them taken down because I'm over 18.

Like, that's so disgusting.

Who cares who's circulating it?

Like, there's justice on the table, and that's what counts.

That's what counts.

So at least your boyfriend, like, knows what's up because otherwise I was about to say, oh, he's only your boyfriend.

Bye.

And then with the family, like, they've shown you who you are, and now it's just arm's length time.

Yeah, like,

that's actually really disappointing because, at the end of the day, we should all be concerned for like this girl's group of friends who are being so violated.

And, like, everyone's circulating it around, making it so much worse.

And the fact that all we care about is fucking Carter.

Who fucking cares about Carter?

Fuck Carter.

I'm not finding Carter.

Fuck Carter.

Fuck Carter.

So you totally did the right thing.

You can sleep at night knowing that like you're a good friend and a good person and like a good woman.

You're

actually in the definition of a woman who supports other women 100 and your mother-in-law is not or future mother-in-law yeah so now you know the end the more the more you know and that your boyfriend knows what's up is really all you can ask for in the situation i'm just like i'm so sorry for your friends i know but i'm actually really relieved to hear that your boyfriend is also like a woman who supports other women or a man who supports other women

yeah

all right finally hi claudia and jackie my fiancé and i are getting married next fall i already asked all my bridesmaids to be in the wedding party my fiancé has yet to ask his groomsman, but he's always planned to ask his dad to be his best man.

Let me start by saying I have no problem with this.

His dad is truly his best friend, and I think it's super cute that he would ask him.

His brother is absolutely nuts.

That's a story for another time.

And he would feel bad choosing a friend over his brother, so his dad just seems like the best choice.

I agree.

So the only problem with it is that I don't necessarily want him in all the bridal party photos.

He's already going to be in the family photos, obviously, so I just feel like that's a lot.

Number one, he's going to be exhausted.

He's an older man in his mid-60s.

He's not in great shape, and I feel like him running around for hours would take a lot of his energy.

And the wedding won't have wouldn't have even wait, and the wedding won't have even started by then.

And then, of course, reason number two is I feel like he would stick out like a sore thumb.

I don't want my eyes to draw to him every time I look at my bridal party photos.

Wow, just typing that, I feel like a huge bitch, but I can't help that.

I feel that way.

Yikes.

My fiancé gets very mad every time I bring it up and says he would feel horrible telling his dad he's the best man but can't be in the bridal party pics, which I understand as well.

What do I do?

Am I just a raging, nefarious bitch that needs to get over herself?

Or do you agree and we can ask him to step out of some of the photos?

I have a major pit about it, and I don't want his PJOM dad to hate me.

How do you think my fiancé should bring it up with his dad if you think he should?

Is it really mean to ask him to be his best man and then add stipulations?

Help.

A beautiful, stunning, and smart bride.

Okay, so I have a plan for you because you can't ask someone to get out of a photo.

Like when the photo is being taken, you're like, okay, now one without you, so we can have one to hang on the wall.

So rude.

But what you can do, being that this is your wedding and there's a lot of planning that goes into it, is you can schedule pictures throughout the day.

Don't have the adult or the older people come in till later in the day because they need their energy.

So, like, do all the family photos last and earlier in the day, do the bridesmaids, groomsman pictures where he's not, he doesn't even know that that's happening.

And then later in the day, when he is there, then do another picture with all the groomsmen.

Because the kid, the young people, your friends, they stand around and wait all day for the pictures to be taken.

Older people don't have as much stamina.

So, I think you do one set of photos in the morning before he's expected to arrive, and then one set of photos with him when it's his time.

That's possible, but I actually, and I think that's good advice, but like, I don't really agree with this.

Like, I don't know, like, I think you should just be proud of the fact your husband sounds like such a PJOM.

His dad is his best man.

Like, you obviously married, like, such a family-oriented, like, I'm going to cry.

It's so sweet.

Like, and you want to hide that?

Like, it's so fucked up.

Like, I don't think you're going to be standing there in a big poofy white dress.

No one's looking at your father-in-law.

Like, it's not going to be this sore thumb situation.

I think it's- It's true, and also like it is like that is what's happening.

Like, that's the truth, you know?

Yeah, no, and I just think it's like lean into it.

It's really sweet.

I've never heard of anyone choosing their dad as their best man.

It speaks to the kind of character of your future husband, and I don't think you should be ashamed of it.

I think, like, you are being a little bitchy, like I do.

So, I think that's my advice.

It's really sweet.

I think it's so special, and I would lean into it.

It's nice, and no one is going to be looking.

There's a big bride poofy dress.

No one is looking at the groomsman in the back, who's slightly older than the other people.

I agree with you.

But I will also say, like, your wedding day is your time to be a little bitchy.

And if this is going to bother you forever, for whatever, maybe there's other reasons at play, then I think you can do it in a way without hurting anyone's feelings and without taking the picture and then say, okay, now one without you.

Jackie's given the roadmap to how you want to do it.

If you want to go about that way, my advice would be like, it's actually really sweet.

And make peace with it within yourself.

Make peace with it within yourself.

I think you would make him so happy, make your husband happy.

And your husband obviously doesn't agree with you.

So like, just, is this a battle you want to pick?

If so, go Jackie's way.

If not, I would just let it go.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I hear what, I hear what you're saying.

I hear what you're saying too, of course, but it's like.

People have their stuff.

I don't know.

People have their stuff.

That's true.

Just decide whether this is a hill you want to die on.

And then die on it.

Yeah.

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Good morning, millennials.

Welcome back to the morning toast.

Jackie and I are so thrilled and excited to have an in-studio guest, someone we've been so excited to chat with, the reigning queen of realistic calls on TikTok, Miss Remy Bader.

Hello, remy welcome to the show i'm so happy to be here thank you for coming of course like this is the most exciting thing like in my life right now same literally um you have had quite a year i really have can you take us back to pre-pandemic what your life was like and then how all this got started of course i can

so i was working well taking back a little further where when i met you guys at first i was working at bravo tv right out of college

um i was doing pr didn't love it ended up going into music, working at Title, which is Jay-Z's music streaming service.

Actually, really did like it.

I was doing partnership marketing there.

And then, unfortunately, I lost my job.

I was furloughed in April of last year, so like a year ago.

And then I lost my job in July because they said, yes, they were like, you're 100% coming back.

And then all the people that were furloughed got let go.

Wow.

So at the time, I was like losing my mind.

Yeah.

I was like, what am I supposed to do?

There was no jobs in like entertainment, marketing, music, like anything like that.

Yeah.

So

my dad always worked in the fashion industry.

He does women's jeans.

And he like always pushed me to do like plus size modeling or just like fit modeling or something.

And I was like, no, I used to get offended by it.

We're like, that's like, so something that would offend me too.

Yeah.

Like, what the fuck?

I was like, you're horrible and you've ruined my

childhood.

No, that's literally what happened.

Like the whole beginning of quarantine.

Like, so going back a little further, like the whole beginning of quarantine was like when my weight caught up to me from like I feel like I was just I liked my job at title But I was so stressed all the time that I'd come home and just like eat.

Yeah.

And all my weight caught up to me.

So that was a hard time too because like pre like beginning of the pandemic being home with my family just like my sister and my parents who like I've always had a difficult

very close with them, but when it comes to like food and weight.

Yeah, it's yeah, so that was like a little difficult.

So when my dad said that, it was just like it was over.

But instead, I was like, you know what?

He really,

you know, actually just was like trying to think like, what could I do?

Because I can't sit still.

Like me doing nothing and laying in bed and overthinking is horrible for me.

I needed to work.

So he was like, why don't you just try to do fit modeling?

For those who don't know, fit modeling is when you go into like the showroom or something and they just fit clothes on you.

You don't even speak.

But you make good money.

The first season of Summer House, there was a girl who was a fit model.

Hannah.

No.

No, Hannah Berner was a fit model.

Oh, but there was someone else.

The first season, yeah, she was a fit model.

And I'm like, damn, she is so cute.

And she was a fit model.

That's how I know what it is.

So you do have to be a specific, like

10 inches smaller here to here, but you don't need to look like a model, like whatever.

So I was like, you know what?

I'll try.

So I sent all of my like measurements and my dad took pictures of me against a white wall in the house.

And I'm so cute.

And we sent them.

I sent them to all different modeling agencies, only heard back from one and like basically signed with them in August, like pretty quickly.

They were like, you'd be great as a fit model, but but we also want you as we could see you being like a model model too and I was like okay cool so they called you pretty that's yeah they were like

and um

so then started doing that and then nothing was happening there was still no jobs really in modeling unless you were doing it for a long time like to be a new model in the industry like no one no

so still losing my mind so then in September, like end of August, I started, which is just so funny now thinking about it, just like DMing DMing influencers.

Like, I want to help you for free.

Oh, DM'd you guys.

You would never know.

And

no, no one ever saw, why would people say, like, you know, like, you don't read, I can't read all of my messages from everyone.

So, like, I DM'd like, probably, like, you, like, I don't know, like, a few, like, I'd say a handful of people.

Yeah.

And I was like, I mean, honestly, thank God no one answered because none of this would have happened.

Yep.

Yeah.

Um, so basically, like, jumping to how all of this happened, I was like, started getting a few fit modeling jobs.

And then I was like, I need to do something else.

So I never was like loved TikTok actually.

Like during quarantine, I wasn't like scrolling all the time.

My sister was obsessed with like, let's do dances.

I'm like, I'm not doing dances looking like this.

Like I just refused.

So then I started finding more of like that curvy fashion.

stuff like videos on

TikTok.

And I was like, this is cool.

I feel like I could do this maybe.

So I started making a few videos, like three videos that were like,

I made like three videos that were like dress like, wait, why can't I speak?

Take your time.

What?

I started making videos that were like a celebrity look like, like Haley Bieber in a size 16.

Got it.

No one saw them.

And like, actually, no, I was just about to say that.

That sounds familiar.

I feel like I've seen that video.

No,

I got that from like that idea from other creators.

I was like, okay, like a bunch of people are doing this.

Like I could do it, maybe make it funny, whatever, but no one was seeing it.

I was like, oh my God, it takes so much time and effort to edit and do all this.

Like I thought it was crazy.

And I was like kind of giving up on it.

And then one day I got a package from, I don't know, like Nasty Gal or something.

And I always have done this.

Like I've always put on clothes and like Snapchatted my friends and been like, oh my God, I look crazy.

Like I just would always think it was funny.

And then I was like, why don't I just make like a TikTok of it?

And it was truly for my friends.

And that's the one that blew up.

Is that the one with your ass?

That was like, no, that was like a few later.

Okay, Margo sent me that one.

And that's how I discovered you.

And I was fucking cracking up and they took it down because your ass was in it.

Yeah, I was screaming when you commented on it.

I was like, oh my God.

And then it was gone.

And I was like...

like literally like in tears like i was freaking out because that was like the first one that blew up where like a lot of people saw it i think yeah it was so funny that was the best video i ever did because it like went viral like so quick and it was going crazy and they took it down so then i put on my Instagram.

Yeah, and then you re-uploaded it, you just like cover your ass.

Yeah.

It wasn't as funny.

No, but yeah, and then they kept taking it down and I was just like, whatever.

Yeah, yeah.

That's so annoying.

It was annoying.

But that's kind of how I started doing the

hauls where I was like, all right, people think I'm funny.

People think it's relatable.

And

if people don't know, what I do is kind of like get.

a large amount of clothing from one brand and then I try them on and some look great and some look horrible and I laugh about it and I talk about it.

And I call them realistic hauls.

And it just, you know, I think what kept me doing it, because it really is a lot of work.

Like in the, now I'm starting to work with some brands other than that.

The realistic hauls are separate in itself.

But when I go buy the clothes, like I'm buying those clothes, I don't think people realize.

Yeah, they think it's like sponsored.

But if it is sponsored, is there then pressure to have like a positive

outcome?

I'm trying to figure that out.

out right now, but I don't really do realistic hauls with brands.

Yeah, that's that's not.

So like I will keep the, because in the beginning, let's say I did the free people haul.

The first one really blew up.

And then they loved it.

And they sent me,

sorry.

And they sent me a bunch of more clothes.

And they were like, you get to pick.

So I was like, okay, great.

And they really all looked good on me.

Yeah.

I didn't.

pretend they looked good like it actually did and then people were like going ham being like now since free people's working no

actually i can attest like as a chubby person like the free people clothing a lot of my clothes are free people it's like very size inclusive and flowy i love something flowy especially especially that because it's flowy and like they actually run i think a little big sum of the dresses and stuff so also that's like a big part of it too like when i started doing this i never thought of the brand i thought these brands are gonna hate me but why did i i never thought this was gonna be my career so i didn't care yeah and then actually a lot of the brands started reaching out and being like we love what you're doing like let's send you clothes i'm not stupid of course the brands obviously want me to find things I like and post positive about them, but at least they're acknowledging it.

Yeah.

Like, that's what I appreciate.

Definitely.

We're now a year out from you losing your job.

And this is your full-time job, correct?

Yes.

You pay your bills.

Yes.

This is my crazy full-time job.

I do the modeling more part-time because I just don't do it as much.

And it kind of like does come into this as well.

I signed with UTA, so I'm working with them for more of like my brand deals and stuff.

And then I'm signed to a modeling agency as well So but I would say this like this takes up all of my time.

Yeah, of course

And you know like yesterday I did videos the whole entire day I'm editing them myself doing everything and does having this huge presence on social media help you book modeling gigs?

Yes, that's the thing.

Like I really wasn't getting any like I almost felt like inauthentic being like I'm a curve model and I was like wait, I'm not getting any jobs.

This is awkward.

Yes.

Like I swear like I did my first test shoot and then I kept posting the test shoot pictures and I'm like people definitely are catching on that.

Oh my god.

That is so funny you hadn't booked a gig yet

like I did that for so long that I was I think about everything so I like think which is good and bad but I was like oh my god this is embarrassing but now I'm like starting to get like I just did a big free people shoot in Santa Barbara with very stunning yeah and it was just stunning yeah thank you stunning um that was like super last minute and they just like I don't know what's like and you know and that's another thing too a lot of people are very positive and then there'll be people that where there's always negative people but that will be like well don't you feel like like these brands are just using you as like their one token plus size girl?

And I'm like, They're that's something though.

I don't know.

No, and let's say they are like, I have bills to pay.

Fuck off.

Yeah, and that too.

Like, I'm like, people take a moral high ground on like the fact that, like, you need to work.

Like, it's so silly.

Try, like, I, it must be difficult being thrust.

Like, I think a lot of people grow their brand online and it takes time, but you just kind of like blew up in like six months.

Um, and it can be overwhelming to have that many people's opinions of you being shared with you on an everyday basis.

And I'm curious how you internalize that.

Yeah, it's a lot.

And I really feel like on some days I genuinely don't care.

And like I'm choosing to put also like my body in front of the camera and things that I'm not happy about.

Like I always say don't think you don't consider myself a body positive influencer.

People like to say that and I'm not offended by that.

And I think people who are body positive influencers, that's great.

I feel like I would just call myself like a realistic influencer because like I am not super happy with my body right now.

Like I gained like 50 something pounds this year.

No, it's like we're body positive for other people.

Yeah, not for us.

Yeah.

And my thing is, we still hate ourselves.

My thing is more like, but I'm not going to hide in my room like I did do this time last year.

Yeah.

And when I started gaining the weight and would go to work every day in pants that didn't fit and be so uncomfortable and just like not want to talk to boys anymore.

Like I'm not, I still feel a little of those things, but this TikTok changed me in a positive way.

And like TikTok changed me in the best way possible because of all the people,

because of all the positive things people are saying.

Like people reminded me of things that I forgot about myself.

And I still will be like, okay, I posted a video the other day and I'm like, I'm having a bad day.

Like I'm realizing that like I made a video a few months ago saying like, you can't let your weight not have you, not allow you to go on dates, but like that's 100% what I'm doing.

And until I feel fully comfortable, I don't really want to.

Like that's not a hypocrite.

Like, what?

At least you're not a hypocrite.

Like, you're owning the fact that you are contradicting yourself.

Yes.

And like, I feel like that's just how I've been.

Like, I feel like the Remy I'm putting on social media, no matter what any haters want to say or not, who have never known me, my friends, my family, everyone who has is like, I love this for you because it's the Remy you've always been.

And that's exactly who I've been.

Like sometimes I say stupid shit and then I'm just like, why did I say that?

So I'm just, then I'll make a video following up with that.

So what I'm learning is that maybe I don't need to do it with everything.

Like I don't need to say all of my feelings.

Yes.

Because sometimes then it's just going to kind of go back in your face.

That gives you more of a platform for people to be negative.

To criticize.

So I'm, but I'm learning learning all this.

Like you said, like literally, this has been like, I think eight months.

Like this is just like, why would I ever think when I started this that this would be what it was?

And even

four months ago, I would say, like, I was refusing to not go back into like marketing or something.

And everyone was like, Remy, like, you need to go with this.

And I'm like, I can't.

Like, I built this resume since 11th grade.

Like, I can't not do that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, I think that's like a hard thing for a lot of people is like, it feels like in the influencer space, it's kind of uncertain.

Yeah.

And even though you might be making more money than you do with a a traditional job that traditional job just gives you a sense of stability yeah and a lot of people don't want to let that go once they become yes and then of course i have my parents or you know close friends too just like well what if it did

all fall apart and i'm like thank you

since 2016.

yeah so i'm just like you know what i at least do i really do have a lot of experience in a resume and I'm pretty sure that I could figure it out if that was yeah, but you got to ride the wave.

Yeah.

And I'm like, like, now I've let that go.

Like now I'm like, wait, now I can't even picture myself going into an office doing that, which is crazy because I was very much like, how can I not have a routine and live this life?

But now this is my life and I do like it.

I wake up happier every day compared to how I did going into an office every day.

And like, I thought I was happy, but I wasn't.

Yeah.

So I want to continue doing this.

And aside from everything and just all the like fame and the followers, like I'm genuinely helping people every single day, which like makes it so much more worth it.

But the fame and the followers doesn't hurt either.

Yeah, that's that's great also.

I would argue it's just as good.

It tastes so sweet.

So sweet.

Where are your favorite places to shop since you're kind of an expert in like who has what?

I went to H ⁇ M because you did an H ⁇ M haul.

I have to say, like, it didn't do it for me.

But I picked it up.

No, it's very hit or miss.

Any of those stores are hit or miss.

Like, I found like...

A shirt at Forever 21 from that haul that I loved.

And then everything else I returned.

Right.

Yeah.

Right now, like, this top's Reformation.

I think they have like really great.

Did I not just say that, Jackie?

Yeah, no.

Reformation has great extended sizing yeah and it's really cute and this isn't this is like older this is from last year or something maybe it doesn't fit me correctly um

realized that when i walked in here but they now have extended sizing and they make it like very i don't know i love that because like i my whole point of even doing all this is like i want to be trendy too and yes there's always been like plus size stores and stuff but maybe sometimes not the trendiest and like we should be able to wear whatever we want yeah i think there's this misconception that if you're shopping in extended sizing, like you're 97 years old because the only things they sell are like cheetah print mumus.

And it's like, we deserve like bodysuits as well.

Exactly.

So that's why a lot of like what, I mean, I just post my style, but a lot of what I wear is like sexy bodysuits.

I like to show like this part of my stomach or like certain things like that.

So, I mean, honestly, I really have been liking free people lately.

I'm a huge Abercrombie gal.

Oh, we are.

Yes.

A lot of people like in my followers are like, I can't do it because they ruined my childhood because I couldn't wear it.

Like I couldn't either.

And my sister wore it all the time.

But, like,

again, anyone who's making the effort now, I'm going to give a chance.

And they like really promote their curvy line and everything.

And then they have like trendy, cool clothes too, like great bodysuits.

Like, I'm a fan.

You just need a size one full size up.

Got it.

Got it.

My favorite haul that you did was Revolve.

Like, I was crying, laughing, like, I'm here to go to surf lunch.

Jam?

Not in that outfit.

Like, I was literally laughing so hard.

That's me trying to get into a club.

What are your thoughts Yeah.

On Revolve.

Yeah.

We talk about it a lot.

We talk about it a lot because like I shop at Revolve, but you know, I like, let's say when I'm shopping, I refine by size.

So it's like, okay, I'm shopping rompers, 5,000 rompers.

I need anything a large or an extra large.

What are your thoughts?

I think that

they are not super inclusive.

They know that.

I mean, I think they know that.

And their clothes are a little expensive, which is what I said in my haul too.

I think they need to make changes.

And I'm like hoping that they do.

They were one of the brands, too, that like liked my haul and said it was great, wanted to send me some clothes, you know, and like I always say, like, hoping, you know, like this makes some sort of change or whatever.

But they're one of like the.

five or six brands I would say that has reached out after a haul that appreciated it and said like we're working on making changes.

So like I give them that.

Yeah, of course.

But yeah, like none of those clothes really fit me.

And then and then I found like, you know, one blazer that was an XL that was like beautiful and I wear all the time.

Like, and I think that's with any place, but the point is, it's like now or never to me.

It's like, okay, I'll give you guys a chance now.

But like, all of these, if you're seeing this, if you're seeing all of these comments from people on TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, whatever, like, take it, do something with it, because if you don't now, you're going to be the one

left out.

And like, yes, it's crazy that it's 2021 and like a lot of these brands haven't done it, but like it hasn't been this talked about.

Like, I I feel like body positivity stuff started when like a few years ago more but like now with TikTok like it's just like going crazy yeah and talking about the actual brands and doing these reviews that are blowing up that like the brands need to not be stupid and just need to listen yeah no and it's honestly like just a good marketing move like you'll reach more people yes like why wouldn't you want that more that's what and that's what I don't you know like I think I'll never understand that it's like I there was one brand I was doing like a fitting for and I was just like for bras or something And I was just like, so why, you know, don't you have bigger sizes?

I'm just wondering.

And she was going into how like it's them make, you know, it's more expensive, which it is to make the product and do all that.

And it's more material and they want to structure it right.

But like also be us because like you're going to make more money if you sell to more people.

What are your thoughts on like extended sizing costing more than like a size mall?

Like like an XL costing more than a medium?

In the store?

Online or in stores?

Like I've seen that in many stores.

You know, I actually really haven't like noticed that.

I should, I should

that's my core.

No, that's great.

I should really like look into that because I never really noticed that.

Are you saying if it's the same like piece, yeah, yeah, yeah, like the same shirt in like a single

double piece or something?

I'm guessing it's just because it's like more material they're putting into it.

That's horrible, yeah.

But that's a good call out, yeah.

Thank you, Claudia.

You welcome it.

Um,

um,

but yeah,

well, you have had really just like an amazing year.

What do you think like is is next for Remy B?

Um, what is next?

I, you know, I like am so excited about like everything that's happening.

I actually like keep saying yes to so many things.

Like I, I need to figure out what it is I want to do.

And I don't think I need to figure that out at the moment.

I think, again, we've talked about how like I never knew this would happen.

So I've always seen myself doing so many things that I was like, well, this is a nice dream, but it's never going to happen.

Right.

So now I have like the ability to do so many things that I just wanna make the right choices and I'm kind of like going slow with it.

Like, you know, like, oh, free people reaching out to do a modeling shoot.

Like, cool, sure.

You know, like, so I'm kind of, you know, I would like to maybe do like something TV related one day,

like more like hosting thing, not like acting or like,

you know, I love to sing.

Am I going to be a singer?

No, but I'd like to like plug that into something.

Like, I just like want to like do things that make me happy and like keep showing myself, but to the, and keep showing myself to the world.

But at the same time like i think the helping people is so important and like that i think long long term i'd love to have like a remy line that's like truly my own or something i think that's like longer term but that's like every little piece of like this power what what i talk about and like what i feel like we need and like give that to all of my followers so

that's beautiful that remy that's beautiful

um can you tell everyone where to follow you and thirst out for a minute yeah on all your platforms um

it's just at remy Bader, R-E-M-I-B-A-D-E-R, and it's on, and I'm on TikTok and Instagram.

Fabulous.

I'd love to see it.

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