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The Toast with Jackie (@JackieOshry) and Claudia Oshry (@girlwithnojob)
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Transcript
Good morning, girlies.
It's the toast.
It's Jackson Claude, and we're your hosts.
It's your favorite show, the fast-five things you need to know.
We'll start your day off swirly.
It's the toast.
I sound amazing.
Welcome back to the toast and happy Tuesday.
That feels like a Monday, but it also feels like a Friday because we're fucking celebrating.
Yeah, that's right.
We're back.
I had a baby.
We survived maternity leave.
It's Jackie.
It's Claude.
It's Jackie.
Good luck.
You're not going to hear Jackie today because I got a lot to say and not a lot of time to say it.
Hey,
Jackson.
We all have a lot to say today.
It's giving
January 2nd, like first day of the new year.
I don't know.
I thought you were going to say it's giving January 6th, and it is because this is
a riot.
There's just a lot going on, much like there was on January 6th.
And I feel like, objectively, for all the swirlies out there, there's a lot going on today.
It's the first day back to work after Labor Day, after summer.
So, like, it's really the first, it feels, it's like a January 2nd in its own way.
It's a reset for a lot of people, not to center ourselves.
Obviously, there's a lot going on for us as well.
Right, but I'm experiencing like a complete reset just from summer, from coming home, from like unpacking, from coming back to toast.
Like, I don't, I can't remember the last time a day held so much in it as today.
No, it's so true.
And do you also feel like a lot is also happening today?
Like, otherwise, like, I just like, and maybe it's because I don't normally wake up this early before work.
I've been up for hours doing feedings, you know, a million things.
I don't usually have a whole ass day before the toast, but I've literally lived three lives already today.
No, I know.
And that's toast motherhood.
I kind of love it.
And I might be like regretting saying this, but I do feel like once once I get settled into a routine, we're in the process of putting Ruby on a schedule, getting his naps and feedings, like more
routine.
Thank you.
I do feel like I could get to a place where I could start recording earlier.
I felt that way in the spring.
Today, just every
today, no, but honestly, maybe.
after the baby and everything.
That is something that is in our future as mothers.
We're just like early risers now.
So yeah, I'm a working mom.
I fed my baby twice before getting here.
I cried last night, but couldn't get out of the house fast enough.
I just feel like that's so
it is.
And I was hysterically crying to bed and like looking at pictures from when Ruby was born last night.
And I turned to him and I'm like, just to be clear, I had like snot in my nose, tears in my eyes.
Just to be clear, like, I don't want to stay at home.
Like, I don't want to be a stay-at-home mom.
I like working.
I like
Sam.
I don't want to be a Som.
Not laughing at stay-at-home mothers, the real error
seriously, never fucking do what you bitches do.
It is literally the hardest job in the world.
Like, people think coal mining is hard, they've never been a stay-at-home mom.
Laughing at the acronym, just want to shout that out.
Some,
some,
and so, I don't want to be.
And I'm like, I'm really, I feel like we have the best jobs, like knockwood, for being working moms.
Like, we can make flex schedules.
Like, I feel like I've really not been taking a lot of meetings for the next couple of weeks.
Like, I'm just being so chill.
Yeah.
Um, But it's hard.
Like, and I'm not saying mine is harder than other people's.
Like people's are harder than mine for sure.
Like, I'm just saying I had a tough morning.
Okay.
No, it's been a long morning.
And even though like this summer, so I was like Samming, you know, this summer because we weren't working, but like really doing this show just like adds so much joy.
Joy and value
to my life.
Purpose, like accomplishment, achievement.
Yes.
I, I, I really like the balance of it.
A hundred percent.
Um, and I just want to shout out to the toast and whoever is still listening today.
Like, we'll see.
And shout out to us, honestly, for like building this.
Yeah, no, crushed shit.
Crushed it.
And it really was, I know everybody like wanted to kill me for like being so indulgent, taking my three-month maternity leave, not the bitches in Canada being like, we have a year.
Good for you.
Okay.
You also live in Canada.
So
what a bat.
What about a boudot?
Yeah, what a boudot.
What a boudot, eh?
No, I'm kidding.
Sending so much love and and light to our canadian toasters we are huge in canada i'm like can't stress that enough and we love you there games make up the majority of our global audience they keep us global i would say that they are the only part of our global audience except we definitely have listeners in israel and when toasters travel they take us with them you know so then we have a listener in africa in italy yeah of course of course of course we're huge in africa um
what was i saying before this
oh something important
so i was gone for three months obviously not to make everything about myself.
I'll probably never be gone for three months again.
Like obviously I want to, God willing, have more children.
But when you're a business owner, taking three months is like extremely indulgent.
And I won't do it again.
But I do feel like I learned.
I think like next time I'll be able to come back within like five or six weeks.
Like I felt like a little bit back to myself.
Again, we have flex jobs.
So don't worry.
It won't happen again.
And a lot of people are like, well, Jackie's about to have a baby.
I'll be taking off another three months.
No.
No.
No.
Thankfully, I live with a permanent co-host.
So it really is like not hard for me.
I don't have to like book people.
And I will be booking people, Claude and friends, but I'll be having Ben and Margo, everybody in my town.
And I live in New York.
It's like a lot easier.
So we'll be taking no time off for Jackie's maternity leave.
Don't worry.
We wouldn't do that to you.
Two leaves in one year.
Yeah.
No.
And we've, yeah, there's always someone, but just the way that summer.
came and
typically you would have taken like say two months but to come back for august like full force it's august isn't about that it's a slow month it was my first you know time being a mother and i'm so glad i did it i had honestly an amazing maternity leave being with you for more than half of it and like getting to do my leave in the hamptons with my family like is so special like it was really but then also having that first month just like hunkering down in the trenches being in bed up every two hours yeah it was honestly i could not have asked for a better three months i'm so happy to be back though and also like i feel like i kept up with my job pretty sufficiently like we were churning out content between jackson friends i came back on the podcast like once and then we did patreons i feel like the listeners were fed i was you know feeling fulfilled in both motherhood and work and i'm just so fucking happy to be back bitch but you have to fill up all your cups you know yeah but you don't want them to run it over that's actually not true like you do god willing
well speaking of cups
sure
um Today's a big day, obviously, because we're back, but I'm also just like very last minute throwing together a plan to get to the U.S.
Open because the craziest thing ever happened to me last night.
Well, not to me, but like to us.
It's the Spritz athletes.
Okay.
So Ben comes and tells me yesterday, he didn't even tell me about these.
Like, by the way, we sponsored a doubles team.
And obviously, we're like a small company and we obviously are limited with what we can do.
We can't be like Jokovich sponsors.
But Ben was like, no, they're like this American duo.
These young guys, they're super green, super new, but they are really promising.
And their match is on.
So we should watch it.
I was like, oh, great.
I downloaded ESPN Plus because, again, like it wasn't a premiere match.
They were playing against the Italian duo, who are ranked number six.
So it was like, obviously, these guys are going to lose, right?
I bought ESPN Plus because I, again, needed to find the match.
It was $12.
I'll be Venmoing Ben for that.
Expensing spritz.
And it was just like
on in the background while we were watching, I mean, while we were like doing bath time, bedtime, feedings, and stuff.
And let me tell you, this match became so insane that they put it on prime time.
And not our American boys beating those Italian shits.
Okay.
It was the most insane match.
It was the most, like, the biggest upset of the U.S.
in, you know, double's history, they're saying.
They are saying that.
I was on the edge of my seat.
These guys are so cute.
First of all, 22 and 23.
Everybody keeps DMing me if they're single.
I don't know.
Just message them.
Like, seriously, slide in.
I have no idea.
I slide in.
It was the most excited I've like literally ever been in my life.
They're playing again today.
Me and men are going.
So while obviously like I'm, you know, busy at work, I also, I got to get to the U.S.
Open because I am a socialite and that's what socialites do.
Um, to see the boys playing again, another like big,
you know, they're coming in as the underdogs.
Yeah, but the power of Spritz compels them.
The power of Spitz, but also the power of America, because, like, while they're not super known yet in the tennis community, everybody at the Open was just cheering for them because it's America versus Italy, like, it's America, bitch.
Everyone was chanting, USA.
And these guys, they're like college players who have gone pro and they're so college.
They were like hyping up the crowd.
Like, I thought they were staring as I got a funnel of beer.
Like, USA, USA.
You mean it's
Literally.
Oh, and then, like, it was so cool.
They got interviewed on, like, tennis TV, U.S.
Open TV after they won.
And, you know, like, Jokovich puts on his Rolex and his Lululemon hat or whatever.
Not them putting on their Spritz hats.
It was so exciting.
Like,
I was like, Ben, this is the coolest thing you've ever done.
Not us just like, you know, betting on these rando Americans.
And look, crushed it.
Crushed those Italian fucks.
Yeah, I am excited to see what's in store for them today.
So make sure to catch their match.
So if you are a promising athlete who wants to be a Spritz athlete,
maybe that could help you.
Also, feel free to watch their match today.
It's Cash and Tracy.
Those are their last names.
I don't know who they're playing.
Tracy.
Tracy from Spidey and is amazing.
So like big things happening over in the business world and the sports world.
Yeah, the world just keeps on turning, you know, like everything is coming up toast.
Everything's coming up Spritz.
Everything's coming down good guys now that we're back.
Yes.
Yes.
Good guys is over party.
Good guys is over party.
Even though like where I used to do my makeup in the house is next to the room where Ben used to record good guys.
So I inadvertently have listened to so many episodes of good guys.
The future episodes.
It's good.
Yeah, it's good.
It's good.
Ben has started his sourdough journey.
Oh my God.
That's what Ben started.
Jackie was, you know, bacon for us all summer.
Ben got the best.
That's nice of you to say.
I really.
Yeah, you actually didn't.
I didn't.
I'm sorry.
I can't stand for longer than five minutes we need to talk about like you being pregnant in just one minute um but yes ben started his sourdough journey he ordered a bread box on amazon it arrived this morning and it arrived unassembled he was like wrenching together it was seriously the craziest thing he got the baskets he got the blades he got the spatula the fold and serve whatever um The starter is starting.
It's in the corner of our kitchen, just like bubbling over in a mason jar.
He FaceTimed me last night to show me how much his starter had grown and that it was bubbling over and he didn't know what to do.
So I was like, just put it in a bowl so it can bubble into the bowl and not on your counter.
And he took it away.
And there was starter on your wall.
He obviously made it up, but I just knew
there's starter on my wall, their starter on the counters, their starter at the bottom.
This is going to test your marriage.
Also, not that it matters because you're in an apartment building and you don't own, so it's not your problem, but make sure he's not pouring it down the drain because
it like clogs the pipes, like turns into like bread in the middle of your pipe.
Oh my god, it's not definitely did.
But I feel like you have strong pipes out there in the big city.
Yeah, I'm not like a
small town pipes girl.
Right, right, right.
She got
pipes.
Having bread, I just do think like Ben's going to give up on it.
You know, he loves to start things and not finish them.
No, and sourdough is a particular personality type, mine, Taylor's, and not Ben's.
So
he's going to have to push himself to stick with it.
And it's really like you have to give it a little bit of your time every day.
Like you have to be very patient.
That's not his style.
No, but I look forward.
I think he loves sandwiches enough to make it his style.
To persevere.
To persevere through.
But I do think, you know, the residual starter on the counter is going to test your marriage.
A thousand percent.
Although I have let go a little bit.
A lot of people want to know: Claudia, how are you doing with like the mess and the clutter of a baby?
Now, let me just say, I'm crushing it.
My house has never been cleaner, but there is more stuff.
It's not insane yet, but I've got play mats and bouncers.
Do you find yet that the stuff sparks joy?
No, do you know that play mat doesn't spark joy when you see it?
No, knowing how happy little Rue is on it.
No, that bassinet doesn't spark joy.
Oh my god, I gotta get that bassinet in my fucking room.
It really is just taking up too much space, but I'm doing great.
I just wanted to say now I want to talk about you really briefly because kind of headline news is that I'm no longer pregnant, which personality-wise, I just feel like so back to myself.
I was just not myself, as Kylie said.
But you are pregnant, and I feel like we as women,
what?
I don't know what you're going to say, but I'm laughing.
It's just so crazy like that we podcast like every day while pregnant.
Nothing makes you more foul and in like a more disgusting fucking mood than waking up every single day, like backache, no
good sleep, heartburn.
And so you're still going through that.
And I want to just like create a safe space for you.
Like if you want to be in a, I feel like I hid my bad moods as good as I could.
I definitely like, if I go back, I could see like me being in a bad mood.
I just want to like create a safe space for you.
You feel like you're in a good mood today, and that's great.
But if you're not, like, that's okay.
I just want to say, like, I am having, like, it's been tough.
Like, it's a tough one.
Um, we could do like a pregnancy update, Patreon, we're gonna talk about, you know, all the aches and pains.
But what I love about the toast is that it forces me to be in a good mood.
Nobody wants to, unless like it's extreme circumstances.
Like, I'm not going to come on here and just be like a curmudgeon, even though I know that's like what people think I'm doing when I think I'm a ray of wife.
Okay.
That's so real.
Like, people are like, are you in a bad mood?
And you're like, what am I talking about?
What are you talking about?
I've literally, I've never been happier.
I'm just thrilled to bits.
I've never, ever been happier.
But the toy, the toes, like, forces me to like be in a good mood, laugh with my sister, like talk about like fun subjects.
And I would, I haven't been doing those things for months.
And like, it does actually
affect your mental health.
Positively in a positive fashion.
So like, I'm actually, I'm very grateful for it in this moment, you know, because otherwise I'd just be like sitting thinking about my pains.
And instead, I'm cackling.
We're just a bunch of cackling hags today.
That's the kind of energy you can expect.
Title.
And I also think, like moving forward, how I'm going to like be different in this stage of my life when it comes to the toast.
I've obviously said it's going to affect dear toasters.
And I just want to let the DTQ know.
I know it's Tuesday, but it's our first day back.
We have a lot to do.
Deer Toasters will be tomorrow.
And I promise it will be tomorrow.
Just like gird your loins.
It's going to be amazing.
I didn't think it was going to be today, right?
Right.
I mean, like, there's, we're like 15 minutes in and we haven't even scratched the surface.
We haven't even caught up.
Like, what are we doing since we left?
But I also think the approach I'm taking to the podcast, like as this, you know, new, I'm definitely a new person is going to be like, very much, I don't give a fuck.
You know, like either, you guys thought I didn't care before.
Like, I really don't care.
Oh, you have a problem with something I said?
Cry about it.
Like, seriously, go cry about it.
I just want to say, like, so good for entertainment value.
So good for business.
So good for business.
Like, I, when you birth a child, like, not to be so condescending,
when you birth a child, like, it just kind of puts things in perspective.
And it just does.
At the end of the day, day like it's not that serious it would you know what it never was that serious it's just a podcast so i feel like i have a whole new perspective on just i love that being joyful
and i also know that like a lot of our listeners are some
and they need us more than we need them like i'm here for you girl um it's just like it's just a podcast you know Let it rip.
That's the motto for the end of 2025.
Is it Q4 yet?
Like, I feel like it feels like Q4.
I'm glad you brought that up because I've been noticing a lot of people like, you know, bringing out their pumpkin spice content and ordering hot coffee and chai and pumpkins and things like that.
And I feel like it started a week or two ago and everybody's rushing the summer away.
While it's August, like, I do not tolerate that type of internet behavior.
And even into September, like, yeah, I'm wearing all white.
Labor Day was yesterday.
What are you going to do?
Arrest me?
Like,
yeah.
I don't like that.
We still have two, three more weeks of summer.
And I don't, I really don't like when people do that.
Like, they're rushing the summer away.
We, we live for summer.
What are you talking about?
Summer.
Summer.
But maybe not everyone had a party summer.
Like, maybe they were ready to get to the next part.
Maybe they were with their sister.
I did have a party summer.
I was like, I was like, I was like,
but I am fat again.
And so I'm not loving summer.
Like, I, I'm, like, I have chubbrum again.
Like, all the problems I once had are back.
I sweat like an animal because I'm breastfeeding.
Like, I sweat more than the average person.
Um, so I get it.
Like, there are things about summer I don't like either, but we're just like rushing our lives away.
You guys just chill.
Yeah.
I sort of just let the process happen to me organically.
Like I feel like soon I will feel like entering fall.
It sounds like you're going to let the chips fall where they may.
Like I'm not craving a chili yet.
Right.
I don't want to go to home goods and get a bunch of fall accents.
I'm actually fall inspired dishes.
I'm actually very much in a purged state because since we've come home, I think, I don't know if it's because this is my version of nesting right now or because we just came home from a two-month trip where everything that's in this house we did not need.
Right.
So when I see it, garbage.
I'm cleaning up.
I'm not cleaning.
I'm garbaging.
It sounds like you lived with the sweeper for two months and maybe I rubbed off on you a little bit.
No, it's really like the idea that we didn't need this for two months.
So do we need it now?
Garbage.
It's a very interesting perspective, right?
And I actually feel like maybe it is the manifestation of how I'm nesting in this pregnancy.
Because I feel like last summer when I got back, I felt inspired to go to home goods.
That was like what I remember.
Because I remember like the house we were in just had like so many like cute things and I just wanted jamming
things.
And now I want nothing.
Chilling.
Purge.
Make it a quote card.
Well, of course, of course, but you have to purge first before you shop.
No, no, no.
I have to, I'm not going to shop because then I'm just going to, like, I buy things that I, in six months, I'm going to want to throw away.
So
we're doing nothing right now i love that and you know what i'm very hormonal like i can't be out there shopping she's so true she's a danger i'm a danger to myself and to others yeah you especially watch out 1000
watch out
And there's also so much to talk about in the world of pop culture.
So if you're just tuning in and you have me keeping up with us on Patreon, we did a whole episode about Taylor and Travis's engagement.
I'm sure it'll come up today.
But if you're looking for like an in-depth analysis on the ring, the photo carousel, her outfit, their, you know, future life together, it's on Patreon.
It was a live stream.
It was so chaotic.
It was so crazy.
And it was kind of the most fun I had all summer.
In addition to other content on Patreon, we've been keeping up with pop culture on Patreon for the last eight weeks.
So it feels good that we don't have to like, you know, talk about
Love Island finale.
I watched it.
Love Island reunion.
Did you watch Love is Blind?
Did you finish UK season?
I didn't.
I did.
It wasn't sparking joy for me.
I watched like the first six episodes.
It wasn't,
it just wasn't it for me.
I enjoyed it.
And there was definitely like couples that either didn't get married, like it was exciting.
And then also couple couples did get married.
And spoiler alert, they're no longer together.
And that was like interesting.
Yeah, I felt like actually, I don't know if anyone was like listening with a keen ear when I recapped Love is Blind on the Patreon, but I nailed it.
Wow.
Okay.
So are you going to tell us or how are we going to do this?
Well, I just feel like I was right about Callan Sarover.
Like, she's my queen right there.
And I was like, if he wants to be good enough for her, great.
Like, I will like him too.
But, like, I just don't know that he is.
Like, I don't know that he's as locked in as she is and what she deserves.
She deserves it last.
Literally, couldn't have, that's exactly what happened.
Okay.
He literally woke up one day and was like, no.
So crazy.
So crazy.
My faves, Megan and Kieran, still together, like sparking.
They're literally the happiest people on earth.
Of course.
They're the happiest people on earth and they found each other.
Like, I really like them.
How is that not not going to work out?
What about Ashley and Billy?
They got married, which was kind of surprising because, you know, he's very stringent and they had these issues.
And then also, like, Callen Sorova, like three months later, he just ended it.
And he was like, so Callan Sorova did say yes, but then got, but then got divorced.
Yeah.
And same with Billy and Ashley.
And what's weird is like they both ended it like the day after New Year's.
After
like a contract or something.
No, they're like best.
They like talk to each other.
I think they were both like feeling the same way.
Like there's no spark.
And they're like two idiots telling each other to like end their messages to the greatest women that they'll ever meet.
And what about Jet and Varda?
She said no at the altar.
Okay.
She said like, not right now.
She was like, she was like, I vow to do all of those things, but eventually.
Yeah.
And so then when they finished the wedding, they stayed dating.
And then they broke up, but they only dated for three weeks.
And it was like weird.
And she was like
so icked out by it.
Well, I saw a picture of her at the reunion and she looks like an entirely different person.
Yeah.
Like glow up of the century.
Yeah, she definitely like hit the O.
A thousand percent.
Love that for her.
Love that for her.
And she's so jealous.
She moved to Dubai after she broke up with Jed like three weeks later.
Okay.
Oh, okay, Caroline Stanbury.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So she's doing well.
And then Katisha and
Javin.
They broke up.
Did you watch that?
Yeah, right.
Right.
It was just weird to watch.
She was just like very freaking, like, I really was rooting for her, but
she was like so forgiving.
I didn't get it.
I didn't get her energy towards him.
None of hate.
I haven't been watching a ton of TV because I've been like such a tennis girly, just as for Ben Shelton.
And so, yeah, I'm going to the match today.
I don't know if I brought that up.
I can't wait to have a honey juice because last summer I went to the U.S.
Open and I was like so skinny.
So I was obviously conscious of the fact that like they're 200 calories each.
And so I like sipped one.
No, I'll be having like six tonight.
I'm also breastfeeding.
So like the liquor doesn't really hit me.
God, you're a tank.
I'm a tank.
So
tank mode.
I will be.
If you see me, like, and you know, at the U.S.
Open, it's like you have the honey juices, the official cocktail of the U.S.
Open.
And it's like a thing.
They come in these really cute cups with all the winners on them.
And when you drink them, you like stack them like a frat boy, like just to count how many you've had.
So if you see me at the US Open today with like the tallest stack of honey deuces you've ever seen in your life, just nadin.
Stacks on stacks.
Just stay away.
Like I'm on a journey.
Understood.
Well, we're excited to see content.
What are you going to wear?
I don't fucking know because I'm so bad.
Who wear what you're wearing now?
I know, but it's hot.
Caliente.
Literally, when I found out that we were going, the first thing I did was I plugged in my portable fan.
Like, I will be needing it.
And I'll be bringing a backup charger.
Maybe an updo.
Definitely a claw clip in my purse, you know?
Yeah.
The tennis swags, they love the claw clip.
And I got to bring my pump.
It's like a whole thing living in the house.
Oh.
So I'll be gone a while.
You can't skip one?
I can't skip one.
I might be gone for two.
Like, it's a long thing.
Are you driving your car?
See, I don't know.
Like, logistics, I might need to drive my car because of my pump.
Like, how embarrassing am I?
You need the LV.
Don't you have?
I have a portable pump, the Willow Go.
And
can you?
Yeah, I'll just like bring my case with me.
It's like, what do you got there?
Oh, just my portable pump.
But it's okay.
Like, I've seen like Paige and the girlies, they have like big bags.
It's not a micro bag thing.
Like, you could bring a tote.
I might need to bring one.
Yeah.
You've got cute totes.
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The story's actually really good, and we're going to rip them to shreds.
Yeah, of course, I absolutely need to talk about the atrocity trade wreck that is Fifth Harmony.
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Fifth Harmony reunited for a surprise performance at Jonas Brothers Concert in Dallas on Sunday.
So the girls, not Camilla, are back together.
Fifth Harmony consisted of Normani, Allie Brooke, Dinah Jane, and Lauren Jaregui, and they hit the Dose Ecke's Pavilion to perform their hit songs, Work from Home and Worth It at the Jonas Brothers Concert.
Well, Camilla Cabello was not there physically, she was there in spirit because their backing vocals are all Camilla.
She, you know,
was the, I would say, the vocal lead of the band.
And this just,
okay, so Ben has been obsessed with the Jonas Brothers
tour.
Tour.
They've been crushing it.
They've been doing like real like millennial con.
It's just like a festival for millennials.
It's like nostalgia con.
Yes.
And that's, you know, Ben's obsession with like when they brought out
the Click Five.
Yeah.
Just the girl I'm looking for.
like he was not okay so every time they have a concert we wake up in the morning he's scrolling his phone he shows me who was there so he was like fifth harmony it didn't really do it for him but he doesn't know like before ben met me i was the biggest fifth harmony fan nobody was more on the fifth harmony train lilas what do you know about lilas their original band name i watched him on x factor i followed them religiously on youtube before they became a band so i feel like i know everything about everything there is to know about fifth harmony and if you were there for like their band their time as a band the five of them, then you know how truly unique it was and bad, all sad to say.
Like they had, really, they just had Camilla.
And she really shouldn't have ever been placed.
That was like a Simon Cowell.
They, it was just like a, she never should have been with them.
She was so supremely talented.
Every time they performed together, all the judges' critique was like, you bitches can't keep up with Camilla.
Like it was really awkward.
And it's amazing to see that nothing has changed.
And the only thing that really changed since then is that like Normani had all this hype and promise she was the next Beyoncé, motivation, the album.
And she was like, Rome was like, what is happening?
What is going on?
Like, and then nothing happened.
What is happening?
Oh, nothing.
So it was really crazy to see her with them because she, like, like Camilla, she had something going on after Fifth Harmony.
But I guess nothing so much going on.
That it's over.
That the train has stopped.
Now, if you watch a performance, like, it was giving classic Fifth Harmony messiness.
Like, choreography.
The choreography was there, execution, the cohesion was not.
Like they were all doing different, they were doing the same dance, but it was a different dance to each of them, you know.
The outfits were so turnt.
The vocals were good, the vocals were good, but that was because they had like Camilla Cabello singing.
They were like sitting on a track.
I wasn't hearing like live vocals.
I'm not saying that they didn't sing, but like what I heard was like
production.
And I think people were really excited about this on its face.
Like Fifth Harmony Back Together, Jonas Brothers, they crush it again.
Nostalgicon, Here we go.
When I heard that Fifth Harmony was coming back together, I watched a video and there was like a smoky fog and silhouettes showed up.
I'm like, is it four or five silhouettes?
Because it makes a difference in what we're about to see.
Yeah, no, but like, I'm just saying, like, on it, on paper, like, it's a sleigh.
Fifth Harmony Runny.
Even without Camilla, that's like, of course, you know, one directory, like, fine.
Even without Camilla, if Fifth Harmony Reunited, they perform the hits.
These are some of the greatest songs ever written.
Like, it's a sleigh.
Work from home.
But then when you get down into it,
it's a nay.
no lauren haragi had like the biggest rip in her tights like it was such a mess there this band
this band is cursed like they are cursed they are unable to do anything successfully like everything they do is just a mess yeah a terrain wreck you literally cannot look away yeah and i when they were doing that choreography i was like crawl
What is going on?
And I think like, you know, up until Sunday, like you could have said like Fifth Harmony, they had a great run
they had amazing songs they did
so many hits if you were very close to it like you knew the messiness but from afar like they looked like just like a successful girl band one of the best of the of the 21st century it was kind of like a monet you know from far away it looked fine and then you got up close and you were like oh no this is just a bunch of dots But them coming back together and reminding us in 2025 that it's a mess.
Like how bad they are.
I think is like bad for their stock.
And they're not good
like collaborators, you know, like with the Jonas brothers.
Like it was just,
I will say, of all the things the Jonas brothers, and I said this on the Patreon and it bears repeating because I've clowned on the Jonas brothers a little bit.
I feel like for so long they were like really hesitant to lean into what they are and what their fan base is, which is, they have amazing new music, but it's a lot of nostalgia.
And I think they're so leaning in now and it's really working for them.
They're just like being themselves.
And the guests that have come out, most of them have been nostalgic.
Some of them have been like Kelsey Ballarini was there, like current pop.
Russell Dickerson.
This is the first one that just was a flop, but it gave us so much content that it wasn't a flop.
No, they wouldn't even consider it a flop because it's like it's a great headlines.
It's great news.
It's just like when you actually watch it.
And it doesn't reflect poorly on the Jonas brothers.
Like they were out there shaking that thing.
Like this was up to the girls.
When you, you know, get down to brass tacks, all I see is the rip in Laura and Heraggi's leggings.
um allie brooke and i love her she just cannot keep up choreographically um and i i just feel sadness for normani for what could have been but i also feel justice for dinah jane because when ben and i were talking about this last night i sent him on a rabbit hole i made him watch Their first performance together as a band at Simon Cowell's house in front of Mark Anthony, where like Mark Anthony cannot believe how good of a singer Camilla Cabello is.
I made him watch Anything Could Happen cover.
And then I also made him watch Lego House cover.
And like, if you know what I'm talking about, you know.
And he was like, wow, Camilla is so good.
But honestly, justice for Dinah Jane, when we were all like young, Dinah Jane was just like, she was just not relatable.
And I don't think
her singing abilities ever really got highlighted, but she's actually an amazing singer.
Yeah, I think for Normani, she had a good performance, like, because she is a talented,
she's talented.
But the fact that she was even there, it didn't matter what she did on the stage.
The fact that she got on the stage in that context
just marks the end.
I think we're calling it.
We're going to to call it on Normani.
It's true.
We're calling on Norman.
Can we call it and say that she's not the next Beyoncé?
We can say that.
I think we can.
Now, I think there's also a lot of discourse on whether Camilla should have showed up or not, because Camilla is also like relatively flopping.
She had a really, really strong solo career for a few years.
Havana, like the biggest songs, Grammy, Grammy, Grammy.
And then she dyed her hair blonde and things just went south.
And I don't think she's really been like churning out hits.
But I don't think she's even close to falling as far as to getting back together with her current bandmates.
No, and when I think about Camilla, the way that I see her, and I know she just put out an album that I'm sure wanted to perform well and it didn't.
Yeah.
But I do feel like she walked away from a lot of
the success she was experiencing.
Like, I feel like it wasn't just that she was dropped by fans and people stopped caring about her.
I felt like she made a, I felt like a choice.
That's how I see it.
And now she wants to come back and it's hard to get back in the game.
It is.
But I don't think she's like someone that's like so thirsty to be the number one girl in this group.
I don't think it was.
I agree.
But the crazy thing is, and she doesn't get enough credit, Camilla Cabello is one of the top vocalists of our generation.
I would say she's on the same level.
I know you're going to say I'm crazy as Ariana Grande.
She has the most amazing voice.
And she doesn't get enough credit for that because she's like flopping and she dyed her hair blonde, which she never should have done.
Yeah.
She reminds me a lot of Kitty Perry.
Oh.
Like where a haircut just sort of like ruined everything.
I don't think of the haircut.
I think it was like, you know, those walks with Sean Mendez.
The walks with Sean Mendez.
I forgot about those.
But when I think about like where it all changed, those walks.
But I love it when you call me.
Senior that.
Like she had so many hits.
Havana.
The biggest songs of the time.
Havana.
The biggest songs.
Yeah.
And now where is she?
I don't know.
Actually, I saw she's on tour.
She did a cover of Nothing's Fine.
I'm torn i'm all out of faith let me tell you it was most amazing cover she's like a kelly clarkson she covers a song and absolutely like makes it her own that's really beautiful i'm happy for the jonas brothers because this is like in the tour in this day and age like this is what you want people waking up every morning saying like what happened at the concert last night surprise song you would think like bringing out special guests taylor did it in 1989 like old news but the way that they're doing it They got it down.
They must be thrilled to bits.
Can I say you also inspired me because when we were together in the hamptons you said like one of my goals is like i want to go to more concerts like concerts make me so happy i love concerts and i was like yeah and especially now like i need to really make the most of my nights out you know after bedtime so i'm gonna go to lady gaga she's doing like six nights in the city and i think the last two are this week and i'm gonna go like it i'm going you know
you are familiar enough with
i am i what's that album called monster
with mayhem mayhem yes i looked up the set list too and she's doing like it's because she did a residency in Vegas.
It's very much like encapsulates her entire discography.
And she plays the hits from Mayhem.
And of course, I know them, you know, disease.
But she does a surprise song.
And in the last New York show, she did you and I, which means like, I'm not going to get you and I.
And like, I want to kill myself.
I fucking like that song.
Oh, my God.
If you give me a shot at Tequila and a karaoke bar, like, you're going to get the show of a lifetime.
Or so you think until you watch the video back.
The next show.
So fucking true.
Sit, sit back down where you belong in the corner of my bow with your high heels on.
And she was like, obviously being so Lady Gaga.
So Stephanie Germanada, like, wait, she's like, something,
something about New York City.
Like, she was being so nutty.
It was amazing.
She's so crazy.
She's nuts.
You forget, but we have to remember that
when you talk about her.
Yes, you have to look at it through the lens like, okay, if a normal person was doing this, I would say A, but it's Lady Gaga and she's certifiably crazy.
so we have to say b and she's like a crazy artist but she's like a genius so you she's a genius yeah no you just you can't like put normal people like the way you talk to your bestie right to about lady gaga it's true special gloves special gloves are you ready for our next story yeah little weddings news because jason kelsey is talking about the engagement and he's hoping to be travis's best man at the wedding so he said trav has a lot of friends so he's a little worried about his spot as best man but he said hopefully I'm the best man.
We'll see.
Trav has a lot of friends.
I'm just hoping to get the opportunity.
So he went on a podcast, bussing, bussing, with the boys, and talked a lot about Taylor and Travis's relationship, the podcast with New Heights, the engagement, like how happy he is for Travi.
He's so glad is Travi made it to the big game.
And it was really beautiful.
Really beautiful.
It was really beautiful.
I love how much they love podcasts.
Like, I cannot trust enough what they've done for the medium is really beautiful.
And it got me thinking, obviously, when he said Travis has a lot of friends, it's obviously a joke.
Like he's going to be the best man.
But where does someone like Travis go on a bachelor party?
Like for real?
I feel like actually Travis will have an easy, like, where does someone like Taylor go on a bachelor party?
Because I feel like for Travis, as long as he's boys and got his beard.
No.
No, no, I think it's harder for Travis because Taylor's like not going to go on a bachelorette party.
She's going to like have all of her friends over for the weekend to her Rhode Island house and they're going to like make sourdough.
Like Taylor's not like a party girl like Travis like he's a football beer
and like golf I feel like they're gonna go to like Bakers Bay that island in the Bahamas Yeah, I think so too where like famous people go I like I'm gonna like Mexico or like in Cabo Oh, yeah, I asked you that question because I just wanted to put my prediction out there for where they're gonna go and I think Taylor's gonna do something really low-key like a girls night
At one of her houses.
No, she needs to do more than that.
Sorry.
Like haim and the swirlies.
And then we'll really be able to know who her friends are.
Like because Kelly Taylor probably will not be there.
Blake Lively probably will not be there.
It'll be like Selena, even though Taylor didn't go to Selena's bachelor party this weekend.
Selena, Haim,
that girl, Ashley, like
Cara.
Cara, yeah, Cara's tried and true.
Yeah.
I think she'll do more than that.
And I think that she should.
This is worth celebrating.
Plus, she like kind of likes to get down.
Well, she does love a cocktail.
Yeah.
Like, why can't she go to Kaba with the girls?
Because, like, she can't go anywhere.
Even though, like, lately, she's been so so regular, Dagular.
I actually saw a picture.
She went out to dinner with Brittany Mahomes at a restaurant in Nashville.
Like, no private room, like, just dinner.
It was Brittany's birthday.
Oh, happy birthday to Brittany.
Yeah.
So she turned 30, Mazotov.
Oh, my God.
It's crazy.
She has three kids.
Okay, that's so crazy.
So
I think Jason will be the best man, especially because he has so many friends.
Because when you have so many friends, you can't pick one.
Let's do the brother.
But if I had just one best friend, I think Jason is good.
Okay, Jason, by the way, and don't forget, Austin,
Taylor's brother.
That's like when you get married, you have to like make a bachelor party, you know.
Yeah, I think that like that'll also make him a best man as like a sign of,
you know, family that I did now that I see your brother as my brother.
But I also feel like
the way that we're talking and the world is talking about like Taylor and Travis, I feel like when they first got engaged, it was like just an engagement, but now it's like road to wedding.
Yeah.
There's a difference.
Some people get engaged and and it's like, well, we don't ever expect you to have a wedding.
Like it just feels like a
performative.
Yeah, we're just like a kind of a dead end.
Like it's like a nice thing, but like it's not about getting married.
It's about getting engaged.
Kind of like Demi and that guy Max.
Your boy Max.
Yeah, your boy Max.
But like this really feels like everyone's talking about the wedding, even Jason.
No, it's really, and I know people are going to say I'm so crazy and delusional.
It is the closest thing in America that we have to like a royal wedding.
And it's so crazy that it won't be televised, like how the royal wedding in the UK is because we deserve it.
Like it should be on CBS.
Well, she should like partner with Disney Plus or Hulu or whoever she's working with and like give us a docuseries about the wedding.
She should, but Taylor maintains like
it's just one of her like core tenets that her private life remains private, you know?
Like that's not something she's willing to give up.
Yeah, but that was before, that's in her philosophy, like before Travis.
Like this is just, everything's different now.
She could bring in her own, like, videographers, just like you have a video at your wedding.
Yeah.
And just, like, bring us in.
Everyone is so excited.
Like, unprecedented excitement.
I think that people deserve it, and the world needs it.
It's literally too much.
Like, I don't know what to do with myself.
Yeah.
No, it's just so unprecedented, you know?
Sabrina should be at the bachelorette party.
Sabrini.
Yeah, she'll bring the penis straws.
Can we talk about it?
She'll bring the penis.
She'll bring the strap on.
She's so fucking crazy.
I was listening to her new album, which I have to say I love.
I've been seeing hate for it.
And like, you're not going to hear it for me.
Like, that song, Go-Go Juice, like, I'm just like shaking my titties.
Like, it's so good.
But I was listening to the song Tears.
And I just had to clutch my pearls.
And I'm not really like a prude person.
Are you Tommy from Arkansas?
Literally.
Like, I was, when she was like, my thighs are crying tears.
I was like, oh.
My God.
And then she says something about like giving head.
I'm like, oh, ma'am, I never.
I was just shocked.
I'm not saying it's good or bad.
I'm just saying I was personally shocked.
I have been sounding the alarm on Ranchi Breen for a while.
Like I know that like, that she has this in here and she wants to do more of this.
Like I didn't, she's always been about like innuendo, but you know what?
There are only so many ways that you can.
No, it's true.
She's dropped the innuendo and she's just being extremely direct and clear.
Like, hey, sex, you know, clitoris penis.
Like, she's being really crazy.
I've started the album a couple of times, but I've just like been distracted.
So I haven't finished it.
And so like, I haven't had my faves yet.
Like, I haven't finished exploring it, so I don't have anything to share yet.
But Brittany's being breeding, she's being very like
direct that if you find it to be too much or you find it to be like too explicit, like go fuck yourself.
Yeah, no, but she's like standing as a Love Island people would say, like 10 toes down standing on business.
She's not, and I really do respect people who like say what they mean and mean what they say.
And just because there's backlash.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Like, no, I like that.
Even it's not like how I would choose to write a song i like people who like stand on business i guess that's what the kids say like she's not backing down or she's just doubling down like no this is what i wanted to say and i'm singing it yeah even if it like splits my audience in half and i'm going with this half like okay so
there we are in this day and age it's so rare that somebody like gets backlash and isn't like i'm sorry like no she's like oh well that sucks sorry like too bad she's gonna be the artist she wants to be i respect that so
let's let's see.
I haven't, I can't call it yet, like, where I stand on the other.
I know people are very curious because I'm very much a pearl clutcher and I'm very much a breener son.
A breener.
Yep.
What happens to me?
Do I go by the way of Tommy from Arkansas?
Am I Tommy from Arkansas?
Stay tuned.
Jack's from Florida.
Stay tuned.
Are you ready for our next story?
What number is it?
Number three.
So you got to be ready.
Yeah.
Harry Styles and Carol Weswell break the internet after being photographed together at a wedding.
So there was a big wedding this weekend.
And it's funny because like the grooms were not famous.
So everybody has very slowly been piecing together
who the grooms were.
Who, what, when, where, why, how.
And it's like, I saw a post of Derek Blasberg and I was like, oh, this is the wedding Aaron Foster was at.
Like, I was connecting all the dots just from people I follow.
And I finally realized like the big picture.
Derek Blasberg's carousel added a lot of color.
Understood.
So Charles Porch and Robert Denning got married this weekend.
And they Charles Porch is like a big important person at Instagram and the other groom is a very important person at the Met Museum, Met Gala.
So they have a lot of friends in high places who showed up for their wedding.
Which was a star-studded affair,
including Harry Styles, which is Mage, and Carol Radzwell, which is Mage.
He happened to help her walk up the stairs, and there's this photo going viral of
it.
Was it Derek Blasberg's carousel where this photo originated and the story behind it in the caption.
I mean, who it was, no?
Cassandra Gray wrote it.
She said, I saw Carol Radzwell struggling to get her rather large GM Batista Valley Paris dress up the grand stairwell.
Naturally and quickly, I managed to get my iPhone out of my dinner clutch to document what could have been fashion Parisian castle
roadkill.
Oh my god.
Then a stranger to Carol and I, a handsome Harry Styles, seemingly out of nowhere, graciously lent her his arm like Cinderella's Prince.
Is this girl a writer?
Like she
writes,
Is this because you know, um, Jenna Lyons was there also with her wife, whose name is Cass.
Okay, is that who this is?
Let's Google because I imagine that like the Bravo Swirlies would be together,
you think, but there's from, I guess, yeah, maybe for the same franchise.
She is the founder of Violet Gray, a luxury beauty.
So, no, that's not her.
Okay, um,
it's just crazy, and let me tell you something about Cassandra Gray, she is a good fucking friend because, like, no one would believe Carol Radzo, like, Harry Styles Styles helped me up the stairs with my dress like sure grandma let's get you back to bed but the fact that this woman snapped a photo like she's such a good friend like if that was me if I was Carol I would be kissing and then it like becomes a worldwide story because you posted it not only did you take it but you posted it so I don't look thirsty like yeah this woman Cassandra is a queen yeah she's a real one big time Yeah, no, that's hysterical.
Really funny.
Worlds colliding.
And by the way, Carol looked great.
Carol also made a return to Watch What Happens Live while we were on maternity leave, and it shook the Bravo community by storm because, like, there was definitely bad blood between her and Andy, and Andy took Bethany's side at the reunion, and then she yelled at Andy, and that got fired the next week, which is awkward because they were friends before housewives, and it was just like awkward.
But it seems like there was
a rapprochement, and that's great.
That's great.
Lovely.
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Our next story is a rumor that we need to discuss because it's taking the world by storm.
A little new couple news.
I'm ready.
Sorry.
I was just like checking on, you know, napped and everything.
I understand.
You don't get the ad break like I do.
Oh, slay.
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Napping.
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Love that.
On his king of shit.
New couple news.
Allegedly.
Scooter Braun and Sidney Sweeney are rumored to be dating after being spotted together in Italy.
Star magazine is reporting this.
Everyone is picking it up and no one has come out to deny it.
I know.
It's just tough because a celebrity being with another celebrity in Europe over the summer means nothing.
Like they all go, they're all on boats, they're all at clubs, and then like they just like connect with one another because they're famous.
Like it doesn't mean much.
If I saw them together in the States, I would feel a lot differently.
However,
videos are resurfacing from the Venice Sanchez Bezos wedding weekend.
And where they both were in attendance.
They were both in attendance.
There was like a day of shopping out in the streets of Venice and a bunch of of like stars went walking together, including like Sydney, Carly, Scooter, or Laura.
They were lost in the mix because there were so many people.
No, I think that's, if they are dating now, that's where they met.
And now it's been like two months.
So now they would be like dating more seriously.
Or they just know each other because they went shopping together at that wedding one time, you know?
Yeah, but like where are these rumors of dating coming from?
And no one's coming out to dispel it.
She doesn't then get seen with Glenn Powell to be like, you know, using him again to be like, I'm single.
I don't know what I just like, I, I mean, I said this about Taylor and Travis too.
So like, seriously, don't take anything I say seriously.
I just don't feel like they're dating.
I, I don't believe it because it's like almost too good to be true.
I think it's such a cute couple and I would ship so hard.
She's so like every time she does something, it's just like not what you think she's going to do.
I just think she dates weird people.
So like her dating like a handsome billionaire is like too obvious, you know?
Like, no, I think I'll go for like an ugly homeless person, you know?
She dates like the weirdest people, and she's Sydney Sweeney, right?
So, you would think like the hottest, she would date like Harry Styles, like the most hottest.
No, she will not, she will not date Harry Styles, but she goes rogue.
So, I think this like wealthy businessman, like, makes too much sense for her.
Yeah, well, she does like a businessman, she does formerly
fiance.
I don't know if there was wealth attached to it, so maybe she
like someone who works in business, but I want maybe this time their business could be successful.
I want the money part, right?
Don't we all, sister, get in line?
I think it's cute.
I hope it's true.
I don't know if they're OTP, but like for a summer fling, like that's hysterical.
It's a cute summer fling.
I feel like there was a brief period this year where we talked about Sidney Sweeney's like dating life extensively when she was in the process of calling off her wedding.
And I said it then and I'll say it again.
And I don't want to repeat myself.
But like seriously, until she does something,
there's always speculation.
It's like Glenn Powell would have been great, but it was just fake and not real, like annoying.
This, I don't know if it's real.
The only real one I know is Cavino and Barnes, whatever his name was.
Jonathan Javino,
is that not what I said?
No, it's the same tomato tomato
until she like confirm really does something exciting.
Like, I can't, I can't wait for her.
Waiting for you is like waiting for rain in this drought.
Yeah, so you just don't want to like get excited or upset.
I don't want to get on board.
And the one time I did get on board with Glenn Powell, like, it was so fake.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's another one.
I need Glenn Powell to date someone like Stat.
Yeah.
What's he up to?
He was like at a college football.
Doing football, wearing a Kristen Euse check jersey.
Yeah, he looked really hot.
Like,
why don't you just like bring a girl with you, you know?
Like a hot one.
I hate when people like don't have girlfriends.
Hey.
Yeah, well, he was in a relationship for a long time, but it's time now.
So I agree that I like that he didn't like jump right into something new.
And even with the Cindy Sweeney thing, I was like, well, this is cute, but he did just break off.
I think they were engaged or like they were engaged to be engaged.
It was like a really serious relationship.
So I like that he didn't jump into something so quickly, but okay, like, let's go.
Yeah, yeah, well, we'll see what happens.
Like, time will tell.
Yeah, just like all things.
Our fifth and final story is a little big fashion news because
just a couple of fascists.
The new editor of American Vogue has been selected, allegedly.
Anna Wintora is tapping Chloe Maul as the new editor of American Vogue.
So, this hasn't been officially announced, but everyone is reporting that she is next in line.
And when Anna stepped down, this is like who people were saying was the next one.
So I feel like it's all but confirmed.
Yeah, it feels like, right?
A little, I guess, surprising because she's younger than I would have thought.
But I think Anna started this job at a similar age, and it's a job that you grow into.
Right.
It's a job you have for a while.
And I think they could desperately use someone young.
I feel like it's felt like the magazine was run by old people for quite some time.
And there's a really very delicate way to like blend new and old.
And sometimes people go too hard.
And it's like, why is Vogue being so Gen Z?
So hopefully she's got that magic touch.
She's also a Nepo baby, which I find more interesting.
Her mom is Candace Bergen.
Yeah.
Who is, I know her
geniality.
She's the pageant master.
So everyone knows, everyone's seen her in at least one thing.
She's a famous actor.
She's in everything.
She's also on Watch Opens Live all the time.
She also plays a Vogue editor in Sex in the City.
Yeah, which is just kismet.
And I think she herself is a Nepo baby as well.
So it's just like a multi-generational thing.
Yeah, and then her dad is a director for Miss Maul,
which would explain how she got into Vogue in the first place, but not like, I think at this point, you don't get to be the next Ada Winter by being Nepo.
Like she's probably got many people who are born.
She got her job for being Nepo, but I would say she earned it.
Yeah, she's been working at Vogue since 2011.
She started as like a social
editor.
A social media editor.
Like, okay,
yeah.
No, I actually, I don't know her at all.
I don't know, like, what her taste is or whatever, but just on its face, I think this is a great choice, one, because it's a choice.
We're not picking three people who will be interim editor-in-chiefs.
And then in five years, we'll...
Who did Jenna end up choosing?
Nobody, right?
Who's, oh, no one yet, right?
The Today Show.
Right.
So I think it's...
And Huda.
Huda.
I'm cracking up.
I'm watching too much on my land.
Hoda.
Hoda left in December.
Yeah.
Okay, like that's nuts.
Give me a choice.
I love a choice.
This person is obviously qualified.
She has has the chops.
It's very similar to Anna's own career.
And I think it's really great.
The only thing that was interesting was for a second, people were saying that Victoria Beckham was up for it and that she would be a good fit.
And I do would have loved to see that.
Same, but I don't think you can become an editor of a magazine if you've never worked at a magazine.
Like, I do feel like that's just kind of like a bare minimum requirement.
And while I love her and like, she knows a lot about fashion, I do think there's more to the job than that.
I agree.
I agree with with that.
But that would have been really interesting.
She would be like British Vogue.
No, she would be a mate.
On the one hand, yes, you need to know the business of a magazine, but she does know business.
She has her own companies and she could learn.
Maybe she's a quick study, but you just need impeccable taste for this job.
Like the best taste in the world, which I think she has.
It just would have been really fun, but I'm not.
I didn't expect it.
I agree.
That's really crazy.
Yeah, could you imagine to go from a spice girl to the editor-in-chief of Vogue?
And I don't know if we talked about it on the Patreon, but the Beckham Peltzes renewed their vows and only the Peltzes were invited.
So like things are worse than ever.
No, it was really crazy.
They couldn't have had a bigger wedding more recently and they had to have like another wedding.
It's a little wasteful not to be like such a narc, but it is kind of and also like weird.
Like it's weird to renew your vows.
Yeah, especially with it like less than, I'm going to say 20 years.
The vibe that I got was that like Nicola feels Victoria ruined her wedding, so they redid it.
And she wants everyone to know that, which I don't love.
She posted a million pictures of her family at the affair.
No, but it's like the rumors have been swirling.
No one confirms anything that Victoria, that the Redding was the big braggis, Victoria ruined the wedding.
And it's
all speculation.
It's all cooler when no one says anything.
You don't air your dirty laundry.
Like these are all like important.
wealthy families.
Like it's just like ugly.
And so for her to do that, it's just like really confirming everything that we think.
And I just feel like they're all better than that like let us wonder
and I just saw something funny that Chloe Grace Moretz got married yes and I completely forgot about her but didn't she date Brooklyn Brooklyn Beckham for like a really long time yeah
she married a woman I saw she wore blue she wore blue the comments were ripping her up but like if she wants to wear blue like wear blue bitch do you think she was gonna wear white
Um, I actually would have.
She's like a Louis Vuitton face.
She's like a very fashionable girl.
So like, I just would would have assumed she wore like a, yeah, a white wedding dress.
But she's like, she has to be different, you know?
I'm different.
And I actually felt like the color of the blue.
Like, of course, I'm a person who's going to encourage people to wear white to their wedding.
She's crazy.
Like, I thought the color of the blue was like really nice.
And I was like, not offended by her choice.
Like, I was happy for her and she seemed happy.
And that worked for me.
So if, like, if it works for me, like, I don't know how anyone else have a problem with it.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, of course.
I'm not even complaining about it.
I'm fine.
I'm a tough cookie.
Speaking of cookie, what are you going to have for lunch?
I hadn't given it any thought yet, honestly.
And I feel wholly crazy.
I feel wholly unprepared for lunch.
What about you?
I don't know, but I'm definitely feeling like a cookie will be a part of it.
I need hardy.
Yeah, no, of course.
Oh,
I'm so unprepared.
I don't have sourdough.
I didn't place an order for anything to arrive.
Like, I'm going to starve.
I just think I'm going to make myself like a party lunch i feel like as a working mom i need to be like making good lunches you know what i mean yeah are you gonna pack lunch no ew
like whatever i pack would be disgusting and then i would open it up i know if i ever like attempted to pack lunch by the time lunchtime rolled around and i opened this like lunch i'd be like
Who am I kidding?
Like, no, I think I'll go out.
No, I feel like there's a way to do it right.
Well, first of all, I don't like my foods touching, so I would need like a different box for everybody.
A bento box.
No, no, but like, I don't want them in the same airspace either.
I need multiple bento boxes is real yeah of course fragrance is real but there are things that pack nicely like i you're gonna vomit but i like pasta salad i think that would be really nice in my bento lunchbox
not like macaroni salad but like you know like pesto pasta like cold pasta
i'm not stupid i put pasta salad but like you didn't have to go cross-eyed but you're not like suggesting that i pack a pasta salad
sorry i was centering myself and saying what would sound good in my bento box yeah my bento box would be a little different.
There would be like an uncrustable.
It would be like RFK's nightmare.
An uncrustable.
It would be like a turdy lunchable.
Yeah, but by the way, you don't need a box for that.
It all comes in packages.
You just need a plastic bag.
You know, I'd leave the bag.
Yeah, I guess.
Yeah, everything I need is like individually wrapped.
But like Ben could make like a turkey sandwich with his new.
Yeah, but I feel like now.
I feel like as a working mom, I'll be going home for lunch.
That's nice.
And you got to have to nurse.
Correct.
And then back to work.
I'm actually going back to work this afternoon.
We're recording Redheads today, I think.
I haven't finished the book yet.
Stay tuned.
That's so crazy.
Stay tuned for updates.
Well,
things we did
that.
I had a blast.
I had the time of my life.
And I know it's only an hour and 10 and people are going to be like, that's so short.
But I do want to get it up.
I want to get people like back on routine.
Yeah, I completely agree.
An hour and 10 is like not so short.
And we got done everything we needed to get done.
We didn't dilly dally.
I feel good.
And like, let's deliver this episode.
The main points.
Correct.
Although there are like TV recaps, your toes just can come throughout the week.
Yeah, of course.
I need to finish the summer.
I turn pretty.
So like, we'll do that.
I've been watching Real Houses of Miami because we started it together.
So whenever I like have some downtime and I was like procrastinating, picking up the Redheads book, I was watching Real Houses of Miami.
Love that.
So one day I'll tell you what I think.
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