She Doesn't Even Know: Tuesday, September 9th, 2025

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Welcome back to the toast and happy Tuesday.

It's a big day if you're a member member of the DTQ.

It's a big day if you're a big woman and I am.

Oh, speaking of I weighed myself this morning.

Sorry, not to just like start on such a negative note.

Hey, Jax, how you doing?

Hey, turtle.

You did weigh yourself this morning.

You called me and I actually am thinking about weighing myself now.

Like,

I'm just curious.

This whole pregnancy, especially, because I feel like I...

packed down a lot fast and I was like, I don't want to know every doctor's appointment.

I'm like, I don't want to know.

I've just chugged my simple modern 40-ounce tumbler like, and you're weighing me.

I don't want to know.

But now, like, I'm curious.

You know, I feel like now the number that I think it's going to be, like, super high, like, it's a point of pride almost.

So, like, I have to say, as an outsider, you know, complete third party with no particular interest in the matter, I think you look very good.

I think you'll be surprised that you don't like look so crazy.

I think I'm going to weigh myself tomorrow morning because I like to know the stats.

So, I got to include it in my lifelong note on my phone of my weight throughout the years.

I weighed myself like before the summer, you know, it was like two months after, no, like five weeks after baby.

And I was really pleasantly, like not terribly unhappy.

I mean, I wasn't thrilled, but it was fine.

And then I just lived it up, lived it up and I gained 13 pounds over the summer.

So seriously, don't fucking talk to me.

I didn't want to make you feel worse, but you know what else I was thinking?

What?

Like we've been home for two weeks, both being extremely

slender.

And you've probably definitely gained more.

Yeah, you've probably lost weight since you've been home.

So you probably gained more.

The thing is,

so i don't even know why i weighed myself because like i'm really not gonna do anything about it like maybe i'll think twice before the second cookie but like i'm really not gonna do anything about it so i just have this information in my hands and and i

i kind of wish i didn't yeah

same i don't know what like what to do for you because and you know what like i didn't want to talk about it well first of all i just want to say i haven't like visibly You look beautiful.

I never said you were ugly, but like you don't look any like different than like you did at the beginning of the summer.

But it's just a tough time where like you can't take extreme measures.

Like of course, you can't go on a GLP one when you're breastfeeding as of this moment.

You can't even like starve if you wanted to because like you are breastfeeding and you and I don't want to.

And you can't.

Like literally, I've never been hungry in my life than when I was breastfeeding.

It's fine.

It's fine.

You know, it is what it is and it was what it was.

And maybe it is going to be a BGF after all.

Yeah, and it will be what it's going to be.

I think you're doing great.

This is going to be just like a blip on the radar screen of your life.

Like it will all, it's so soon.

It's actually going to be a blimp.

It's so soon that you'll be like back doing your snatchy things and you'll remember this time fondly.

Don't get hung up on it.

I know easier said than done.

It's fine.

It's fine.

Moving on.

You've inspired me.

You've inspired me to take the plunge.

I am an inspiration.

Yeah.

So I'll let you, you'll be getting a FaceTime from me tomorrow.

It's Tuesday.

It means there's Deer Toasters.

We actually have something kind of major going on this week.

You mean tomorrow?

Like this week is major.

This week is major.

I agree.

If you're a member of the DTQ.

Yeah, we have two days of Deer Toasters this week because we have a sponsored segment tomorrow.

Yeah, somebody wanted to come in and sponsor Deer Toasters and I said, you know what?

Put your money where your mouth is.

We'll do two.

One regular, one sponsored.

So stay tuned tomorrow to find out who the sponsor is.

It's actually a really good one.

Today's is just a regular old DTQ.

And then tomorrow's is a little bit more thematic.

The theme is mother-in-law.

Double DT, double the fun.

Double the D, double the fun.

Double trouble, just like us.

Toil and trouble.

I'm wearing jeans today.

It's so crazy.

And they like looked really cute.

I posted a picture on my Instagram.

You could check them out.

But when I went to sit, they wouldn't stay buttoned.

So it wasn't so cute.

They are open.

Like, I don't know if you can see.

Maybe my leg is covering the fact that my jeans are open.

If you can see, just, you know, eyes appear, okay?

My eyes are here.

I'm wearing a pair of $200 sweatpants.

So like, that's how far I've fallen, you know?

Who makes them?

Are there sweatpants though?

They're not sleeping.

Not like drawstring.

No, no, no, no.

I have the silk ones too.

I'm in a place where like I'm just buying things that fit.

You know, it's like the price is just, is what it is.

Every price is right.

Yeah.

Every price is right.

No, the drawstring, like pant, like wearing pants right now, like not even like wide leg.

They're just like pants.

I can't explain it.

Like, that's what's in.

That's what really what I'm feeling.

Like, when I get dressed in the morning, I'm like, what pants are we wearing?

Oh, a thousand percent.

And I feel like there was a time in my life where like I really valued elasticity, like elastic pants, which of course I love an elastic waistband.

But there's really something to be said.

about a drawstring.

I don't know.

I wore a drawstring yesterday.

Maybe because of the way I had it placed, because I had to wear it so high up.

Like it looked so funny, these strings hanging out of my belly.

Well, also like the art of the string, you know, they can't be too long.

They can't be too short.

You don't want to be in like a knot.

You need a pretty little bow.

It's delicate.

But we as women

at one point, like, I would get dressed every morning.

I'd be like, okay, I'm wearing leggings and what?

And these days, it's like, okay, I'm wearing pants and what?

And it's just like a shift that I've noticed that I welcome.

I personally was inspired by Molly Mae.

Like shopping maybe made me start dressing like that.

But I see it's happening to women all over.

Speaking of women all over,

I did something crazy last night.

Oh God, what'd you do?

What'd you do, Jisy?

Jackie.

What'd you do, Jisletank?

Jackie, I did something crazy last night.

You watched Real Houses in Miami.

Jackie, like, I'm trying to quote us.

Oh, sorry, I'm currently.

I did something crazy.

Yeah, crap.

I did something

crazy.

Cork.

Cork.

Meth.

I said meth.

Meth.

Crazier.

What?

I started season two of With Love Megan.

Okay.

And it pretty much started and stopped within like 30 minutes.

No, 15 minutes.

It was really dreadful.

And I watched with Bed and I watched through the lens of like, he thought he was just sitting down to like a party cooking show.

And we actually watched Ina after.

We watched a lot of cooking shows.

So I thought Bed actually might enjoy it, but like she didn't cook.

She like invited people over and she already had onion tarts made.

And she didn't show us how to make them.

And she had over like really legit people, like the starters of Momofuku and Milk Bar.

They're like, Yeah.

I think they're married.

And she made them a little gift.

And so she handed them the box.

And then the show paused.

She was like, let me show you how I made these gifts.

And so it like cuts to like a pre-made package of her like dying silk scarves.

Dyeing them?

Yeah.

And she was like, let me show you how I do it.

It's so easy.

And then she showed us and she was like, this is my first time ever doing this.

Why don't I do it more?

I'm like, but you're giving a tutorial.

How can you give a tutorial on something you've never done?

Yeah, it's tough.

That's like a tough feature of the show.

I actually had seen some people messaging me being like, it looks like they took some of your feedback from last season because I just like wanted more I want more info like

why do you like when do you cook why do you cook when do you start to cook like just like more backstory and I thought maybe they included more of that but no like more Pinterest projects like on the fly like no you don't make scarves yeah more on the fly Pinterest projects that's exactly what it was don't make them for us and Jackie there was more

Daniel

He was in the first episode the makeup artist

and maybe he had a high Q score.

They obviously didn't ask me.

I didn't watch more than like maybe 10 minutes.

Ben was like genuinely horrified.

Like he was like,

I watch it for fun.

And like, there's like elements of it.

It's the craziest, stupidest, like, most amazing show.

But like, I watch it through my own lens.

Ben really watches it.

Like, Ben takes notes when he watches Ina.

Like, she made this chicken cooked in butter yesterday.

Ben couldn't get over it.

So he watches them really like critically and

like a, I think he's an ideal viewer.

Like he's looking to learn.

He's looking to learn, but I can learn.

And let me tell you, he was not learning anything from With Love Megan, unfortunately.

And Farch, you she makes a nice frittata.

We didn't get to the frittata.

She did fry an egg.

And then Momofuku man actually fixed it for her because she did it wrong.

He was like, you have to do this.

And I think he put like a little water or something.

I don't know.

Oh, no, he put a plate on top.

These are the tips that we come for.

Momofuku should have a show.

I bet he does.

Yeah.

Like, I bet he does.

Did Ben start his bread this morning?

Of course not.

You're lying.

I'm not.

He had an appointment to get his.

Ben's life has been defined recently by this custom set of golf clubs that he's making.

So, you know, you buy golf clubs and, you know, they have special sizes.

It's based on your height, weight.

So like you get one for like one who, a person who's six foot.

Like it's all pretty general.

It's like a shoe, you know?

But I guess when you get to a level that's like, you're really good at golf, you have custom made for like your exact hip range, elbow size.

I don't fucking know.

Does it like change based on your weight?

Kind of.

It's like a wedding dress.

Like you go in for fittings.

No, but like, what if you gain or lose weight?

And that's true.

And let me tell you, Ben is gaining and losing weight.

Yeah, no, he's, he's.

He fluctuates.

Yeah.

He's a little girly like that, actually, the way Ben fluctuates.

So he went for like his custom fitting this morning because I, I heard you talking to him on the phone last night, telling him exactly what to do, wake up, do the fold and stretch, whatever.

Because let me tell you.

He called me at five o'clock last night saying I'm about to start my loaf.

I was like, what are you going to wake up in the middle of the night and do stretch and folds?

Like, you can't start, like, it's a 12-hour process.

So, you start in the morning.

Yeah, you should, or like, yeah, somewhat time when you're going to be up 12 hours later, like, not in the evening.

So, we made a whole plan for him to start like at 7:30 or 8, whenever he gets up and starts his day.

He woke up and went right to Tribeca to get fitted for his golf clubs.

Like, he's another fitting.

He's literally getting married.

So, he said, golf over loaf.

Correct.

He said, flog over full.

But when is he going to start his loaf?

Tomorrow?

Are you ex

checkie i don't know like i'm telling you he's not serious about it i'm telling you i know

i think he liked the idea of like having a starter you know and then beyond that i don't know if he thought past that well just wait till he makes like a pargy loaf of bread because that feeling is addicting but i do worry that that feeling won't come for a while because it's a lot of trial and error but i actually think he's gonna have success with it i think going with Chat GPT, like accompanying you, is a great idea.

I would recommend it to all sourdough swirlies.

I actually changed my cook times based on ChatGPT.

And it worked?

Yeah.

Because I was feeling like it's not perfect every time.

Like it's great.

It's delicious, but like it's not perfect.

Like not something I would like sell in a store.

Right.

And we're always looking for sword-worthy bread.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So what else can I tell you?

What else can you tell me, Turdy?

I watched Samuel House I was in Miami last night, but I just, I couldn't, I couldn't stay focused.

I lost focus.

so I called it a night

yeah I have a busy day today so I was like let's get some Z's

trying to think like what else do I want to tell my sister Jax

I don't even know we like

we did something kind of bad today me and you we FaceTimed this morning We FaceTimed before the show because I wanted to tell Jackie that I weighed myself.

And I feel like I compromised the quality of the show.

No, I don't think you did because like we just had a conversation that one, we've all had on the show before and two, that we wouldn't be having on the show today which is like can you go on Ozempic while you're breastfeeding and like you you know how I feel it's not my favorite idea I feel like the show we were gonna have before the FaceTime and the show we're gonna have now after the FaceTime are two different shows it's sliding doors you know what it's giving It's giving like back in the day toast of like we just have to jump into the stories because we know too much about each other or of each other's.

No, we're so familiar.

It's disgusting.

Yeah, so like that's why we have to talk about the stories because we have nothing to talk about.

Well, why we do have deer toasters.

So we took a long show today.

The stories are interestant.

What's the leading one?

Olivia Jade and like Jacob Alardi.

Oh, you're saying that the leading story is Trinity was right.

You were right about

Glenn Powell not dating Olivia Jade, but like you never, when Olivia and Jacob broke up, you never said, no, they're still together.

No, I didn't say that, but I did not say it.

You know?

You did leave it open like to them being together, but we did like take the opportunity to take a big like duty on him and like be excited for how well she's gonna do after this so now we kind of have to like go back to the place of like shipping them which I've so moved on from I'm at the place in my Olivia Jade stanhood but like whatever Olivia wants Olivia gets and like I support you know I'm trusting my fabe trusting your I completely agree trusting my fabe I did want to tell you something I saw on TikTok because I know you didn't see it

So there is an Instagram, a TikTok account called like the Toast fan, whatever.

They like post really cute Parche clips of us.

Guys.

yeah um she hasn't been as active as i had wanted recently but like i know her she's actually she's sort of like the morning like she jackie she was the morning uh the morning breathers instagram girl her name is sophie do you know her

i do she's like an og fan she's like always clipping us like helping us go viral can't appreciate her enough she made a video on the page like talking to camera i was like oh my god what's going on with self like what's going on she actually is going to be on the season of survivor she wants to tell everyone like toasters who love survivor tune in because yeah your girl's on the season i feel like maybe she won or something I don't know why.

I just like have a feeling.

Is it she already filmed it?

Yeah, I think that's how survivor works, right?

Who knows?

Actually, I'm not sure.

Um, well, if you're on toasters, but not if you're if you're a surviving toaster, make sure to root for Sophie.

Yeah, also, message to all toasters: like, go on reality shows so we can root for you.

Like, we love Jackie.

Message for all toasters: go on reality shows so you can wear our merch.

Like, see, I mean, so you can, like, quote us.

Yeah, we love like watching shows with toasters in them.

It makes it so much more fun.

Speaking of quoting us, we have the craziest deer toasters today that directly involves us.

There's like a girl writing in about like, you know, is it a love ya situation?

A love you situation.

You know, a lot of people like have gotten into a pickle in new relationships because they like sign off everything, love you, bye.

And then, oh, like we've gotten dear toasters.

We've gotten dear toasters about that where like they prematurely say, I love you, but they didn't say, I love you.

They said, love you, bye.

Right.

They're like LARPing as us.

No, that's not the situation.

This one's actually crazier.

And that's, that's just a little tease for what's to come.

We're doing a lot of teasing, but not a lot of substance.

Okay, so we're like every other podcast out there.

No, this is what we should be doing.

We're gonna have record numbers.

Have you heard about this thing called like podcast farming?

No.

I read an article about it.

And I guess it's true.

When you swipe through social media, TikTok or Instagram, like you see a million like podcast clips, right?

It's like a man with a microphone talking to a camera.

All the time.

That's my, that's my whole feed.

So apparently like 90% of those clips.

And a woman.

Yeah, of course.

And a woman.

Apparently, like 90% of those clips are not from real podcasts.

It's called like podcast farming.

And it's a way of like generating content because podcast clips perform really well, but like they don't want to host whole podcasts.

So they just like get in the studio and like make some clips.

I love that.

With us, what came first?

The podcast or the clips?

It's the podcast.

But for most people, it's like what came first?

The clips.

Yeah, but there's no podcast to back it up, you're saying?

There's no associated episode.

I kind of love that because I enjoy the clips.

I really, I can't remember like a time when a clip compelled me to listen to a podcast I had previously never heard of.

And sometimes people's clips are better than their show, you know, because it's like a highlight reel.

Yeah, not us.

I would say with, no, I would say with us, like our clips barely scratch the surface of the substance that's that's being churned out here.

It's true.

Like you could have a taste, but if you want the whole tree, like it's the show.

And people who watch, I know some people just keep up with us through reels and they're enjoying their life too and I'm happy for them but they don't even know they're missing the good stuff whereas for other shows like that's the good stuff what's it she doesn't even know what's that from it's a song yeah it's like a song in a movie that like yeah

like hero trip something like that she doesn't is it scotty doesn't know i don't think so someone will comment it oh it's like bothering me right now she's lucy wyman claudia i was thinking about lucy wyman this morning as i was picking out my sweater i'm like oh my god i felt so good Oh, she's Lucy Wyman.

I'd feel like Satchel would know if I asked her.

No, I feel like

Ben would know.

I feel like it's a boy thing.

Why don't you voice note the whole family?

And whoever comes back first will win a prize.

What's the prize?

Our love.

With love.

Megan.

With love.

Megan.

Guys, what movie is this from?

She doesn't even know.

Okay, sent.

Thank you.

I think that's good.

You could also ask ChatGBT.

Do you think chat would know?

We should start asking.

You can also talk to chat like voice memo, I think.

Feel free to ask me about anything.

Hi, I'm trying to remember what movie this line is from.

Wait, am I talking?

Yep, I can hear you just fine.

If you want to tell me the line, go ahead and I'll do my best to help you figure out which movie it's from.

She doesn't even know.

I think it's like a part of a song or something from a movie.

Let me know.

Thanks.

Ah, that line is pretty iconic.

It's from the movie Mean Girls.

There's a whole scene where they do that song at the talent show, and one of the lines is exactly that.

She doesn't even go here.

So she's wrong.

You got it wrong.

You got it wrong and you're stupid.

Go back to school.

I thought for sure they were going to have gotten it.

That'd be so crazy.

Oh, my God.

I can't believe they were wrong.

Like, chat has been slipping.

I know.

You know, I actually read something that chat's data, like that, what they're working with,

it's only from 2012.

And then I asked chat because we were on Long Island and I wanted to go to a container store.

I'm like, can you give me a container store between here and my house?

Like, that's on the way.

I don't want to get out of the way.

And they gave me a store that closed like six years ago.

So I actually feel like that person who told me that, and they say that the most up-to-date chat, up-to-date ai is grok like they use data from 2024 ask grok but like do you i actually wouldn't even know how to use grok like where do you tweet at it is it an app oh because that's so embarrassing if you have to like tweet all your ai

morning toast account

i won't

and does grok i'll just pay for margarine livid i feel like does grok answer every tweet that's directed at him I feel like only the like most popular ones get answered.

Don't you feel?

I actually don't even know what Grok is, if I'm being honest.

Like I know it's AI that Twitter makes, but like it's an account or it's a service that you pay for.

It's a separate app.

So it's A, it's just like ChatGBT, but it's integrated with X because it's made by Elon.

So like you can just like tweet at Grok your questions and also

but then it's all public.

Like my

chat ministry.

But people use it to flex.

They're like,

someone says something wrong.

They're like, at Grok.

What's the backstory here?

I will never give up on chat because if you ask chat what the most popular pop culture podcast is, like chat does say us.

Really?

Let me go yeah i'm not what do you think i'm lying i don't know i just feel like some days they might say us some days they might not like

and some days i correct chat because i'm like they called us the morning toast because they're using old data

and i said chat that's wrong okay what's the most popular pop culture podcast

fingers crossed i think they also threw the new york times one in there um like the pop

pop what they have one called like it's hosted by two men okay like they they gave me five, I've never heard of one of them, and we're not there.

Okay, then obviously, chat doesn't know you like chat knows me, or maybe chat knows that he's talking to me.

Do you want me to pull the current top-ranked pop culture podcast for this week?

Yeah,

like no, what else?

I want you to pull a piece of duty out of your butt.

Oh no, maybe chat be slipping.

I'm telling you, chappy's slipping.

You're useless.

Were we in there?

They didn't even, they just like sent me links to Apple charts.

Like, I'm sorry.

Yeah, I could do that myself.

I could do that myself.

These will show you the current number one pop culture.

But like, pop culture isn't a category.

So maybe that's why chat is struggling.

Like,

I don't know.

What is the most popular pop culture podcast out there?

But pop culture isn't a category.

That's like a miss.

I guess that would be like society and culture, pop culture.

Should we move categories?

Nah.

Why would they put New Heights?

That's not, that's a sports podcast.

Claudia.

New Heights and Call Her Daddy.

Okay, I take it back everything that I said about Chad.

Like, they fell in their head.

Literally.

Toast erasure.

Toast erasure.

Maybe they have caught up.

Okay.

Now.

Yeah.

Let's get in to the fast five stories you need to know because this is the number one pop culture podcast, no matter what chat decides to tell you today.

Maybe they know we took the summer off.

We'd be slipping maybe we'd be so true

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Our first story, as we teased, Olivia Jade reunited with Jacob Alordi in Toronto days after quote-unquote date night with Glenn Powell and weeks after it was reported that they split.

So she supported Jacob at the TIFF, Toronto International Film Festival premiere of his new horror film, film Frankenstein, where she attempted to go incognito per a video captured by people.

He posed solo for photographers on the red carpet before meeting her and ushering up the stairs to the Princess of Wales theater.

Yeah,

so

obsessed.

You know, I loved these two together.

We're so back.

We're so back.

They actually, I feel like, had broken up once before.

Like they were first spotted together and dated like briefly.

Then they were broken up.

And I think everybody thought they were broken up, but then they just had been together this whole time.

And so this is just like what they do.

You know, I'm not worried.

That's my girl.

He's so lucky to be in her orbit.

Like, I hope he treats her like the queen that she is.

And I know that they broke up because like she was over him because she thought he was like boring.

Or she was like, I want to be engaged.

And like, if it doesn't happen, you know, you're getting to that point.

Oh, that's interesting, but I feel like she doesn't.

I feel like she's calling the shots here.

Yeah.

So

this could either be like, you know, close to the end, breaking up, or sometimes like a breakup makes you stronger.

Yeah.

You know, because it's like you're getting you're getting serious because also like you have to break up with someone because they didn't do the things that you want but if you get back together it means that they did them so like maybe she's concealing a ring or whatever she wants maybe although i don't find just as like a olivia jade fan and i like watch her youtube i don't find that like

that's what she wants although like i don't know you know yeah well she's 25 so i it's young yeah it's young but like she might be like thinking about it soon and it's young but if she were to get engaged you'd be at like a perfectly normal time yeah i think i got engaged at 25, married at 26.

Normal.

Yeah, I felt like that when I was doing it, it felt like a little like late.

So now in hindsight, I don't know if times have changed so much in the last few years, but like in hindsight, I'm like, oh, that's super young.

It's also cultural, you know, like what, how you grew up, obviously coming from a modern, modern Orthodox community.

Yeah.

25 can feel a little, a little late.

Not all of us can get engaged at 21.

Yeah.

So yeah, I hear you.

Yeah.

And again, I really just like see her akin to like Sophia Ritchie,

who locked it down big time.

And I feel like that's what she might want.

You know, she comes from like a loving, stable relationship.

Yeah.

And like, yeah, this is a time in your life when you start to think about those things.

So I feel like

I feel like it was like this breakup has made them more serious in my like fan fiction in my head.

She looked angelic in that white gown, like truly an angel waiting for him at the end of the red carpet.

She almost got away with like people not knowing she was there.

There was one sneaky little video that they caught.

And then he like helped her with her train.

Yeah, as he should.

And I love when, like, it's obviously his big night, him and his silly little movie, right?

But it's all about Frankenstein.

Like, yeah, like, okay.

Yeah.

Even though he gives such Frankenstein energy, if you would have asked me, like, we're making a, I didn't even know they were making a new Frankenstein.

But if you would have said, like, we're making a modern Frankenstein, who would you cast?

Obviously, him.

He's so.

We cast him in everything, too.

That's so true.

And don't forget about Wuthering Heights.

I haven't actually, I meant to tell you, I watched the trailer and I thought you did a great job of describing it.

It was extremely like erotic.

Yeah.

Tactile.

In a tactile sort of way.

Yeah.

And like with a lot of innuendo.

Yeah.

Not a lot of actual skin.

And then I saw a theory on TikTok that I'm now like taking as my own.

Like I believe I agree with this girl.

Like she figured it out because the poster says Wuthering Heights in quotation marks.

Right.

And if you watch the trailer, it actually looks like they're in two different time periods.

Yes, they're both like old timey periods, but one looks to be like the 1800s and one appears to be like the 1900s or whatever.

Okay.

And so with the quotation marks, somebody thinks that like somebody in the 1900s is like reading the book and like inserting herself in it.

Because like Margo, I don't know.

Actually, I'm not doing a good job of explaining the girl's take.

I saw someone set out to do a take of why it was in quotes and I scrolled on right by.

Well, people are trying to figure out why it is in quotes.

I don't know.

It could have just been like a rights thing, like in order to get the movie.

Like, the title might be copyrighted or something.

Maybe

that's like not a thing.

Or like maybe an old poster, like, because the poster is like old-timey.

It also looks like vampirey.

It does.

It looks kind of Frankenstein-you know, it does.

Like, it's not really like I don't know, romantic, you know, withering heights, bloodsuckers, right?

Withering, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, withering

So I thought maybe it's like an old style of doing movie posters instead of it in quotes.

Like something just like really like surface leveling, not so deep.

Not so deep.

I guess we'll find out.

Yeah, we will find out.

And I hope that that movie is big for him so that like he can afford the ring that she deserves and the life that she deserves.

Yeah.

And so I think I will go and see it.

Just, but you know, to support her.

Jacob Alerti is going to have to work hard because Olivia Jade grew up low-key very well.

She also is successful in her own right.

So I think like when she wants something nice, she just like gets it for herself.

And so his little Frankenstein, like independent films at the Toronto Film Festival, like it's not going to work.

We're going to need a big budget production.

Get back to work on Euphoria.

Maybe she was there celebrating saying, sweetie, this is your last independent film.

Yes, like love the indie life for you, but it's not going to cut it.

You know, we're going back to Hollywood.

Right.

We're going back to the studio.

Yeah.

Blockbuster season, babe.

Yeah.

And I know this is going to sound crazy because he's like so famous, but what really has Jacob Alorny done?

Besides, Euphoria is huge, right?

But it's like a TV show and it's never coming back.

And of course, there was the kissing booth.

But like, why is Jacob Alorny, what a, like, why is he the leading actor?

What is he in?

Well, it was in that Elvis movie that nobody saw.

Priscilla.

Yeah.

It was really kissing booth.

Like, you can't understate how huge that was.

Nobody watched it more times than anyone.

That like catapulted him to be like a heartthrob, a teenage heartthrob, in a time where there was a dearth.

Yeah.

And then, like, Noah Centennio was another one, but he then took himself out of the kitchen.

He didn't take it so seriously.

Like, right.

Jacob is trying.

And I guess Euphoria is really big, though.

I don't watch it.

But it was just like he was kind of like the heartthrob star we needed at a time when we didn't have one.

It's Saltburn.

Saltburn was huge.

Saltburn.

Saltburn was huge.

Yeah.

The kissing booth.

That's what comes up first on his IMDb.

Then Euphoria.

he needs to start like talking to tom cruise and like getting in some real movies yeah and i always just feel like we're talking about like him getting cast and stuff and like all the hype but it's like the pre-production and it's like where's the film well that's like why wuthering heights is a big deal we talked about the

trailer it's coming out and i think margo robbie like doesn't miss so I just want to say, and I know you guys are going to think I'm crazy.

Like, I just don't feel like he's that successful.

No, I don't.

But I think he could have a big future.

I feel like we've just been saying that for quite some time, and it's like, the future is now.

Yeah, I agree.

I agree.

That's just my hot take of the day.

Are you like, Olivia Jade is more successful than him?

Sorry.

Well, it depends how you quantify success.

Correct.

Are you ready for our next story?

A little more cold play couple news because the husband of the woman who was caught on camera is speaking out amid his divorce from her a few months after the video that shocked the world.

So

Kristen Cabot, who's the woman in the video with the CEO of Astronomer, news of her filing for divorce from her husband recently made headlines weeks after she was caught on a so-called Kiss Cam with her then boss, I guess he was.

But a spokesperson for Andrew, her ex-husband, told People Magazine that they were privately and amicably separated several weeks before the Cold Play concert.

Their decision to divorce was already underway prior to that evening.

Now that the divorce filing is public, Andrew hopes this provides respectful closure to speculation and allows his family to the privacy they've always valued.

No further public comment will be made.

So when I heard this, I was like, okay, so that makes her participation in this like less bad, but still bad because the other guy was married.

Yeah, because she's like have with a married man.

Correct.

However, I could also see a world in which like...

Even though she cheated on her husband, the fallout from this like public scandal was so bad and so hard on her, even though like he's the injured party here, he is saying this

just so people like lay off to help her because it's like the mother of your children and like you were married to her for a while.

So yes, she like, you know, ruined your life, but what happened to her in return was so much worse than any punishment he could, and like he ends up winning.

So I could feel like maybe he's lying.

Let me flip that out of his head for one second.

Say what he's saying is true.

They were separated.

She's single.

He might have even been dating, say, like that, that happens.

And this all happened and everyone's coming down on her.

And agreed, like, I'm not going to take away from the fact that she chose to be with Married Man, even if she's single but in that moment when the whole world was against her and he could have kind of like cleared her name and been like no we're not we're separated we're getting divorced he didn't and now when the dust is settled like because the divorce papers are out we now know that they were getting divorced and it's really so like now he's coming forward when it's like too little too late not saying i'm right or you're wrong but like it could have gone that way too it could have although i don't know that like her falling into this relationship with a married man making a mess of her life is his fucking problem honestly not at all because the choice to like take your newfound singleness and break up someone else's family is a bad choice.

But she was being accused of two crimes.

One that she actually hadn't committed and the person who could have exonerated her.

But I am of the mind it's like seriously not his problem.

Well, yes.

Like you got yourself into this mess.

I'm not your husband anymore.

You can get yourself out.

Yeah.

No, no, no.

I agree with that.

But like to then say something now.

But it's like to say something now is useless.

I'd rather almost like him not because he looks like he's kind of interesting.

He thinks he's like, if this is the case, by the way, in this scenario, he thinks he's like, oh, coming to clear her name.

And it's like, if you wanted to help, the time was a few months ago.

Like,

I totally forgot about these people big time.

Yeah.

Now he's like doing his little interview.

Right.

Having his moment in the sun,

making it about Andrew.

Right, right.

It does beg the question, I guess, like they still hid from the camera because he was married and because they were co-workers.

There was like multiple levels to why they would hide.

And I guess her being technically separated like makes her like a little bit better, but sorry, she still is like.

She's still sleeping with a married man, which is bad if you're single, married, divorced, separated.

Don't do it.

Right, right.

And it begs the question, like, okay, maybe she was divorced or separated at the moment of the video, but like they could have been, they looked very intimate, like they had been together for a while.

Like maybe the affair stemmed her divorce.

Perhaps, but he's kind of saying here that it didn't, that it's all about.

He didn't say outright.

Just saying.

I'm just

saying.

Yeah, no, I feel like he, like, he's like coming in like the knight and shining armor.

Too little too late.

It's just a little too late.

Because the damage is done from this.

Yeah.

Although it wasn't his mess to clean up, so I stand with Andrew.

No, and I do feel like the man, as he should

andy byron like got the

yeah i don't even think she lost her job he had to step down but she didn't he got most of the heat right and i do think it's because like the way it went down like he was clearly cheating on his wife who'd had no idea you know she took him out of the she changed her name and like we're seeing that on his end like oh my god and on her end it always people were like oh they're kind of separated like it's not you know so he took the brunt it's crazy that he has a spokesperson.

Because these are just regular people.

Well, I think I remember when it all went down, they were saying, like, her ex, her husband came from, like, a very wealthy family in Boston.

Movie time.

Yes.

Who's going to be?

And who are we recasting?

Gwyneth is obviously the lady.

Gwyneth is obviously.

And then the connection to Coldplay.

Oh, well, she's, she maybe is a little too close to you because never astronomer hired her.

Yeah.

Let me look at her.

Who could it be?

Him is giving, like,

who was the guy from the founder?

Is that Michael Fastbender?

No.

Michael Keaton.

Michael Keaton.

Yeah.

Totally.

He's the CEO.

That's really good.

And like Laura Lane, the mom from Nanny Diaries.

So cute.

So cute.

It's such a good movie.

But they'll have to like wait to see how it plays out.

Though they never do.

Yeah, of course.

They never do.

They make these movies so premature.

Too quick.

Yeah.

Are you ready for our our next story?

Speaking of the movies.

And the talkies?

Speaking of someone we've been talking about this week, which is now like putting more things into context.

Glenn Powell's on the cover of GQ.

So Glenn Powell's making news this week.

He's decided he wants to be in the press.

He's famous.

He has a movie coming out.

I think that also might be why he was like out and about with the Giannouli girlies.

He's on the cover of GQ looking extremely weird.

Did you see the picture?

Because he's wearing the big legs.

He's wearing leggings that are like fake big legs.

Yeah.

And then inside the magazine, he's like wearing more like fake muscle stuff.

And he's promoting Chad Powers.

Is that correct?

Is he?

Which I think is like this Hulu thing where he's like playing like a big southern man.

Like, I think it's a play on that, I think.

Got it.

Because I was reading some of this article and it's all about like how his brand of masculinity fits into Hollywood.

And I guess, you know, for a little while in his early days, like there wasn't really a place for Glenn in the initial

handsome, striking, funny man.

What is Glenn's brand of masculinity?

So, you know what?

He actually cited some good references because he said when he was like starting out, it was very much like the Twilight Era.

Like, people were looking for like Robert Pattinson, like moody, brooding, romantic, moody, brooding type of male leads.

That's not him.

He said he felt very encouraged when Chris Pratt has had success in Guardians of the Galaxy because it's like this like macho American macho funny guy yeah and that really is what Glenn is he's a combination of like brawn and chuckle I didn't realize that like sometimes nobody wants that right sure trends change no and like you have to think Gen Z like what their type is they like like very like skinny um

intellectual sort of leads not like we grew up like big buff all-American leadsy Lady Timley Chalamay, Barry Quinn.

Right, right, right.

Like, kind of like rat boy, they call it.

Yes, and like in another world, like someone could say ugly.

I wouldn't, but somebody could.

No, Timothy's not ugly.

He's beautiful.

I thought you were going to say beautiful is a good word.

I thought you were going to say girly.

Oh, yeah, abyssal feminine, yeah.

But just like

not how I joined.

Jeremy Allen was conventionally handsome.

Jeremy Allen?

Yeah, like from certain angles, like a little

ugly.

Yeah, and/or girly.

Yes, they love a girly man, these young girls, these young gals.

Yeah, so I think for Glenn's self, he was like, Where do I fit into this equation?

And then he really, you know, trends change, and he found his niche within Hollywood, which again must have been hard for like an incredibly attractive, tall, funny, successful, charming guy.

Like, it's only 100% of them that are left behind.

Um,

so yeah, check it out, GQ.

I will.

Yeah, that's like two goofy GQ covers in a row because the last one was Travis.

I was thinking the same.

What is this?

Unique creative direction.

It's giving like, remember Mad?

Of course.

It's giving Mad.

Like it's like parody.

Well, I think like GQ is a publication for men.

And I think like men these days, like as a gender, like they don't, there's no uniformity.

Like I don't think they know what's

like what's going on with men.

So I think this is reflective of that.

Do you know what I mean?

I also think, I guess if it's like a magazine like for men about men, like they don't want to see like sexy men pictures.

It's not like for women.

Right, but like magazines inherently are girly.

Like a magazine for men, like it's just weird.

Yeah.

You know?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

Go off, Glenn.

Yeah.

Are you ready for our next story?

Four?

Four.

Yeah.

Really nice story, actually, because Scarlett Johansson is casting real Holocaust survivors for her movie, Eleanor the Great.

So Scarlett Johansson has made her directorial debut at the TIFF, Toronto International Film Festival.

It's called Eleanor the Great, and it

is about a Holocaust survivor played by

Mark Schoenwater.

Girl, you don't know

June Squibb.

You're lying.

June Squibb is starring in a film.

June Squibb is starring in a film directed by Scarlett Johansson that features Holocaust survivors.

And so June Squibb plays like a survivor?

So yes, she will be playing the titular character of a Holocaust survivor who becomes friendly with a college student.

That's the premise of the film.

And then other Holocaust survivors were cast to like round out the cast.

That's really sweet.

Really sweet.

She talks about how she went about like finding people who might want to participate,

like getting in with the community.

She said like at the time there was like 250 000 survivors living of course it's every year it's much less so we were able to identify that it's a community and was really helpful um they also reached out to the show a foundation to find like

survivors interested in acting okay like one thing about scarlet johansen i just fucking love that bitch like she's such a queen she's there when it counts and i trust her she's there when it counts like she makes like you know there are a lot of dudes in hollywood some of them disappointing some of them great and like scarlet's just she's a good one she's there when it counts.

And I love her.

She's not like always the loudest and like every single time, but like when it counts, she has her.

And it doesn't hurt that she's like so beautiful, you know?

Like that's just a bonus.

And so with these Holocaust stories, I find, you know, more and more Hollywood like to be like kind of disappointing in telling the stories of our people.

So I actually trust Scarlett.

I love that she's in the directorial seat.

And I hope the film was an immense success.

Yeah.

And June Squibb, your girl.

Well, this just has the toast written all over it.

Yeah, it really does.

You don't know June Squibb?

I didn't.

And now I do.

And now I'll know her even more.

And do you find that ever since I like enlightened you and showed you June Squibb that she just pops up everywhere?

I notice her more.

It's definitely like the June Squibb effect.

It's kind of June's world.

Yeah.

And we're just living in it.

It's true.

I want to get to our fifth and final story.

And I think you're ready.

And I think you're going to be really excited about this news on a lot of friends.

Like, it's jam-packed.

I don't think I'm ready though.

No, but I think you're ready.

I think you're just getting excited and you're like losing sight of the readiness.

Okay, fine.

Sorry.

So this, and by the way, I'm dying to know what the story is.

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So Desperate Housewife stars Andrea Bowen, who plays Julie Meyer, and her husband Joss Jockerman, who is also from Desperate Housewife.

Eddie.

Eddie, the serial killer.

The murderer.

Tried to kill her.

Who tried to kill Lynette.

Oh, and her, yeah.

Yeah, he was her stalker.

Are expecting their first baby together.

Okay, so I recently, when I did my rewatch, I found out that they were married.

They got married very recently.

Susan Meyer was in attendance, Terry Hatcher.

And now they're expecting a baby.

And it's kind of full circle because when he tried to kill Lynette, she was nine months pregnant.

She actually gave birth while being held hostage.

This is when the show got like a little nuts.

She was actually giving birth in the living room of the abandoned house where he killed his mom.

And she went over to check on him, didn't know he was a serial killer.

And then he was like, I'm the serial killer.

I was going to flee to Florida, but now I have to hold you hostage because you know that I'm the killer.

And all the stress put put her into early labor.

And he ends up delivering the baby before the police arrive.

Life imitates art, you know?

When I saw that two Desperate Housewives actors like were married, I had to Google him because I didn't recognize him because he looks like very like handsome and normal in this picture.

And then I saw.

He's not like a, he's not a resident of Wiseria Lane.

He actually lives like a few blocks over in like a bad neighborhood.

And he's not.

like a title character.

No, no, no.

So then I saw a friend of Lynette's kids.

So then I saw like he's Eddie.

I'm like, well, who's Eddie?

And then he has different hair.

He's so different.

He, like, plays the villain.

He was crazy looking.

He plays a serial killer.

And now they are happily married.

And more than that, this article includes the fact that she has started a new Desperate Housewives Rewatch podcast with Terry Hatcher.

Yeah, so it seems like everybody on the cast fucking hates Terry Hatcher except for the girl who played her daughter, which is a...

is a point in Terry's column.

And I'm sure that like the relationship that Terry had with the other women, you know, competing and it was very different than the relationship she had with the young actress who played her daughter.

They probably had just like a different relationship than you would have with a colleague who you're in competition with.

Although, if I'm Julie Meyer and I'm starting a rewatch podcast, obviously I want to have on as many castmates as I can.

I'm not choosing Terry Hatcher.

Stephanie Barry.

Yeah, Marcia Cross isn't going on.

Yvela-Goria is not going on.

I don't think Felicity Huffman's like doing a lot of podcast interviews since leaving prison, but she's certainly not doing it now that Terry Hatcher is the co-host.

So I feel as though the podcast has an expiration date because they're not going to get many people to agree to come on.

No, but it just then it won't be about co-hosts.

Like maybe they're taking a page out of the toast book.

Like you and I, we've got this.

Like every episode, Hargy, we don't need anyone.

And they have plenty of episodes of Desperate Housewives to talk about.

Plus, like I'm telling you, Mark Cherry is not going on.

Maybe Josh made friends on set that he's going to bring in.

Who's Josh?

Zuckerman.

Her husband, Eddie.

Oh, he's a Jew?

Oh, yeah, I guess he's a Jew.

And she's not Bowen, I wouldn't say.

But that's cool.

It's cool.

Interfaith marriage.

You love to see it.

The article doesn't include anything about their religions.

Is he wearing a yarmulke?

I don't see wedding photos.

I'm just seeing Sonogram.

That's really cute.

Yeah.

Oh, I would have to, I don't know where the wedding is.

It's always crazy when people from a TV show, it's more so crazy when they were like romantically linked on the show.

Like Emily Van Campen from Revenge.

Her and that guy are still married.

He's so hot, like four feet tall.

It's crazy that like he held her hostage.

He didn't actually.

He tried to choke her while she was taking out the trash oh julie yeah oh well it's just he held lynette hostage got it no but then gave birth to her daughter lynette

not julie no julie you're thinking julie actually julie and lynette were both held hostage in the grocery store

remember when that woman um

She holds up the grocery store with a gun because her husband owns a grocery store and she finds out he's having an affair.

Damn.

And you know who gets killed?

You guys might not remember.

Nora, Tom Scavo's ex-girlfriend, who never told Tom that she got pregnant.

And so Tom finds out they have this like eight-year-old daughter, Kayla, and she's like this nightmare bitch to let

Kayla.

Kayla Scavo.

Yeah.

And remember that TikTok?

And her mom, Nora, like really wants to get back with Tom.

Remember that TikTok?

Of course.

I sent it to you, right?

Yeah, of some creator who ran into Tom Scavo.

Tom, the actor who plays Tom Scavo, and he just started filming, he was like, you are the worst like ever.

And the actor who plays Tom Scavo, like, he kind of knows that, but he obviously feels this like deep connection to Tom.

So he's like, oh, come on.

No, he's not.

And like, he really is.

There's so many.

I can't.

I actually cannot go on my Tom Scavo rant.

No, no, no, you can't.

Let's bring it back to the happy couple.

No, I just want to say, I'm not going to go on my Tom Scavo rant, but like the pizza shop.

The rewatch podcast.

I look forward to hearing like Terry's take on it.

I don't.

Like maybe she'll have some tea.

Maybe they'll be making headlines.

Felicity Huffman like doesn't do press, so we never hear from her.

We hear a lot from Yvonne Goria because she's always like promoting something.

She's wanting on Watch Shopping Slive and Andy's always like, is it going to come back?

And I just know, aside from like the Terry Hatchett drama, like they had the best time on that show.

Yeah, it was a moment in time.

It was lightning in a bottle.

It was.

And Yvonne Goria said like literally best job ever.

However, like everything that has like happened since, like they've just ruined the show.

Of course, of course.

Like, Marsha Cross's social media footprint has been.

She's so crazy.

She's so crazy.

So crazy the show.

Don't bring it back.

Just

appreciate it for what it was at the time that we had it.

It was literally a movie.

And I don't mean that in a movie sense.

I understand.

Okay, are you ready for deer toasters?

I'm going to start with the one that I teased, okay?

Wait, I have to find it.

Okay.

I bolded it.

Where did it go?

Sometimes when I bold things, I accidentally delete it.

Hold on.

Classic.

That's okay.

I've found it.

Okay.

All right.

Welcome to Deer Toasters, our weekly advice segment.

This week it's going to be bi-weekly.

Actually, no, bi-weekly means every other week.

Bi-weekly should mean twice a week.

I just want to say that.

Do you agree?

Yep.

And what's the word for bi-weekly?

For twice a week.

Yeah.

Twice a week.

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It's a phrase.

Our weekly advice segment where Jackie and I try to help toasters in need.

If you are ever going through something with a friend, a romantic partner, a health issue, we literally, like, there's no.

quandary we won't take.

Email us, deertoasters at gmail.com or just head over to our website, thetoastpodcast.com.

This little submission box when you scroll down, it says deer toasters.

Both of them are totally anonymous.

Okay.

This one directly involves us.

We are the injured party.

Ooh, I'm mad.

Hey, Jackson Charity.

I have kind of a meta issue.

A girl I work with at work is constantly telling stories, sharing takes with our coworkers that is just literally verbatim what you say on the podcast.

She says it's like she says it like it's an original thought though or a personal experience to her.

I've mentioned that I also listened to the toast thinking she would say something like, I heard this on, you know, a Gargi podcast when sharing an anecdote, but no, she just shares stories that you girls tell like it's her own.

Do I call her out?

People think she's so hilarious and has the best takes, but it's so freaky to me that she acts like these things are coming from her brain.

I hope she hears this, dear toasters.

Sincerely, a corporate toaster.

Ako taco, but you're saying we're hilarious and have the best takes.

I know.

On the one hand, I'm like mad because I want everyone to know, like, no, this was my joke, my story.

I took my pants off of physical therapy.

But on the other hand, like the fact that we're empowering young women to just like stand out at work.

I don't feel like injured by this.

Like, I want people to like take

something from this show and let it enrich their lives.

I feel bad for the girl who's like, Yeah, has like knows that this girl is too much, she knows too much, knows that this girl is lying.

Like, this obviously, like, a little bit of a fraudster because you could also like say things, and there's a way to caveat, like, oh, I heard like an interesting story, and then say, I heard on the toast or whatever, and you'll still get the points for having known it, um, but you are just like being more honest.

So, I'm just like frustrated for this girl because that must be like really annoying to know that, like, this girl is getting undue credit.

Um, but like, you could also do the same same thing.

She could do the same thing.

She's Lucy Wyman now.

Oh yeah, she's Lucy Wyneman now.

Or like, you could do the same thing, but like, I don't know.

Obviously, this, the girl who's stealing from us, like, is fucking crazy.

So at least you have a leg up on everybody else because everybody's like, oh, Sarah from accounting is so funny and cool.

And you know, she's actually a sociopath.

So that's cool for you.

Just let it go.

You know, I think people like really look too much.

And this might be a hot take.

People like look too much into their work relationships.

Like even like the best girl you know from work, like she's still your coworker.

Like,

so just like leave this at the office.

Go home and talk to your real friends about it.

Yeah.

Or you could like call her out and be like, oh, that's like that happened to Colonel.

I heard that too.

But you also might wind up like looking like small and like everyone was enjoying the moment and you just ruined it.

So I see this happen, like, not to make everything about myself, but he's bloody hearted.

He's like convulsed.

Is he okay?

Oh my god, is he okay?

I think he's okay.

He's just wake up.

He's an active sleeper.

Jackie, his eyes are like rolling behind his head.

Bruto, I swear, Bruto, how does he look?

He's fine.

He's fine.

Oh my god.

But Jackie, he was like this.

He's an active sleeper.

That was really that was a lot.

And I feel like if I didn't address it, people would be like, what?

Is Bruno a lot?

He was having a bad dream.

My baby.

Maybe he was dreaming of being pulled away from his auntie.

It's true.

Now, not to make this dear toast, just about myself, but I do see this happen a lot on TikTok when there's a big social, like a pop culture thing, and somebody will make like a TikTok.

It's like a take, and it's like literally exactly what we said on the toast.

And then I go and like, I see that they follow us in the toast.

And so, on the one hand, I'm like, grateful for the support, but on the other, it's like, you just stole my, my joke.

Yes,

because they're like stealing our share of voice, which is the internet.

Yeah.

Like, yeah, right.

If you want to steal the water cooler, you could have it.

Fine, by me.

And like, we're here to serve.

Like, I want to like bring value to your life.

And we do say like we want like we do this show so you can have like interesting takes if you want to take

them to the cocktail party.

Yeah.

We kind of told the girl to do this.

Now saying like a story that happened to me that happened to you like that's like another level of like crazy.

But you know what?

I don't give a fuck as long as you're subscribing.

Like totally.

That's all I care about.

And like if you're maybe using all of them, just like also be a Patreon.

Yeah, you do have to pay to steal.

Stop the steal, by the way.

You do have to pay.

Honestly, if this girl's not a Patreon member, then I have an issue.

Let us know if she's a Patreon member.

She probably is to get more stories because that's also important to share like that.

And you know what?

You are paying for that privilege.

Yeah, I agree.

What you're not going to find me doing is caring.

Okay.

Hi, Swirlies.

Love you gals.

Let's get to it.

My boyfriend and I are both 23.

We've been together for over a year.

I recently got dinner with some friends and they're in relationships too.

And they talked about how they often send nudes to their partners to spice up their love lives.

I've never sent one to my boyfriend because we see each other like two to three times a week and call me crazy, but I feel like he sees it in person enough.

And I don't really need a digital footprint like that.

But am I a prude?

What's your opinion on nudes?

Is it more common for people to send them than I think?

This also got me thinking.

Do you guys think ever, do you think guys ever delete the nudes that they've received in the past?

Do they all just have nudes like a hall of fame?

Would love to hear your take on this.

I guess we've never like shared our stance on nudes.

Like, well, I think in order to have a stance, you have to have sent them.

And I have.

Well, that would be your stance, that you've never sent a nude, which I wonder, like, what percentage of people nowadays of young people have never sent a name.

Well, to answer your question, she said, is it more common than I think?

I think pretty much everyone does.

Send nudes.

Yeah.

And my take on it is that, like, I can see a world in which you regret sending a nude, but I don't see a world in which you regret not sending one.

And for me, that's how I've made the decision to not do it.

Yeah.

It's not something that I've ever like strongly considered or felt compelled to do.

To do.

I don't don't want to like break the internet when I share this, but I've never sent a nude, which is probably really shocking.

But like, I understand like people who do.

I don't think men delete them.

Why would they?

Like literally, they don't.

Why would they delete them?

And it's just unfair because like, yeah, men and women both send it, but like a like mostly guys just like set it up their penis and like it's not attached to you, right?

But girls, you know, we're artists.

We're part of our body.

Yeah.

Especially boobs, like they're close to your face.

So it's like usually a recognizable photo, which makes it, you know, linked to you forever.

And so I think it's a bigger deal.

Um, so if you're on the fence about it, I say no.

If you're on the fence about it, I say no as well.

Like, if something is holding you back from doing it, like, just listen to your gut.

Um, but if you're doing it, like, great, everybody does it, and that's how young people communicate nowadays.

And yeah, men say them, but like, I'm gonna go further, and maybe it's just because like I'm a mom, but I'm gonna say something.

And I don't judge anybody who sends nudes, but like a guy who's asking you for a nude, like, he doesn't love you.

Yeah.

That might be like one of my hotter takes.

What about

like your husband?

Maybe he's off.

Well, you could tell your husband to fuck all the way off.

Like, that's the good thing about being married.

Maybe you have love and you have trust and he's off like working on an oil rig and he needs a little something from his lady.

He's someone.

Even with somebody who's totally trustworthy and totally safe, like phones are not, right?

Like people get hacked all the time.

Like on a small scale.

Like it's, it's about the trust of the person, but it's also the trust of the technology.

Phones are not.

Which I don't have a lot in.

Yeah.

I don't, I just, I don't really ever see a good reason.

I'm sorry.

I don't.

And I don't think that we should be sending them.

I am in agreement.

That's how I live my life.

And

yeah, I think

unless what if he's in the military?

Well, thank you for your service and we can have sex when you get home.

But it's like months at a time and he's missing his darling.

Okay, well, you know, they didn't have cell phones in Vietnam.

They sent some mail.

Who knows what was in there?

Yeah, like a little sexy Polaroid.

But it was definitely like a cute picture of your face.

Like everyone would have a picture of like their sweetheart, you know?

Yeah.

And like they weren't nudes, but they would like send a picture like of the little cleavage and it would be like crazy.

They would hide it in their bunker.

Yeah.

Like we need to turn back the clock on that.

We've gotten too far.

No, like our holes are all over the internet now.

It's crazy.

Yeah.

So and I do think like men keep them because seriously seriously like why would they delete them like they have like three by the way.

Here's a good example.

Like this is such a random example, but like Raquel, Tom, and Ariana, right?

Ariana and no, sorry, Raquel and Tom were exchanging news photos.

Yeah.

And they trusted one another.

And Tom, those photos got leaked.

She ended up like suing Ariana.

And it wasn't because of Tom.

Yeah.

Now, obviously, she was having a relationship with a man in a relationship.

So that's, but even in a situation where like the person, the photos get out, not through the fault of the person you sent them to.

Yeah, plus not to mention like hacking, not, you know, phone transfers,

sharing a cloud with your family.

It's just a nightmare.

The fact that this girl is on the fence about it, I say absolutely not.

But to the girls listening who maybe do send it, I would recommend actually not.

Honestly, sorry.

Like not to be a grandma over here.

Yeah, I do.

I don't really see the purpose in it.

Mm-hmm.

And most of the time, it's like not with the great love of your life.

It's with a guy who like you like and he just like wants to see your boobs.

Yeah, and I would would hope with the great love of your life, like barring the oil rig or the military.

Like you guys are together all the time, and here you go.

Right.

And it's nice, like maybe he's on a work trip.

Okay, so

a little, uh, a little tension never hurt no one, you know, a little anticipation.

All right, our third and final is hilarious.

Hello, swirlies.

I'm thinking about buying a cameo to tell my close friends and family members that I'm getting a divorce.

Oh, we're not.

We're not parting on bad terms or anything.

It just needs to happen.

And I want to bring some light to the situation.

So who should I use to tell my parents that I'm getting divorced?

Now, there's so many great people on Cameo, and I do think a real housewife delivers all types of news in a partial way.

But, might I suggest the great Nikki Blonsky?

Ooh, that is good.

I also think, I don't know what your goals are in life, but like you have an opportunity.

Not that this would have catapulted you into anything like

long-lasting, but like I could see this going viral.

Viral.

So, who do you want to take viral with you?

Obviously, like Right, like who do you want to bring up?

Countess Luann comes to mind.

Right.

Smokey Robinson.

Chinuka.

Happy Chinooka.

But Nikki Blonsky, like, is the face of Cameo, and I feel like she needs this.

Although I don't know if your parents would know who she is.

I feel like parents do keep up a little bit with some of the real housewives.

Brandy Glanville.

Yeah, hers are a little all over the place.

You also want somebody like direct to get the message across because you don't want them to be confused.

And sometimes people like wax on on these cameos like for minutes and you have no idea what they're talking about.

Yeah.

Teresa does a good one.

She just reads she reads exactly what you ask her to.

Yeah.

Lots of good options.

Yeah.

Maybe it's the time of year where we go check who's on cameo.

Who are the number ones right now.

Or you should do

who was just on cameo that we wanted to support?

Maybe you could do Jalen from Love Island.

I don't think that they would know.

And by the way, call me old.

I don't know any of the people who are in the top 10 on cameo.

Like.

Hold on.

I'm on my way.

The naked cowboy you can book.

Uh, that's on my vibe.

Cameo.

I don't know these people.

Lisa Rinna.

Kevin O'Leary.

Oh, you mean Kendra?

What's her name?

Lakarin?

Kevin O'Leary.

Yeah.

And he would give some great advice on like the business of divorce.

Yeah, he would.

I feel like you might not like what he has to say.

Which is what?

I don't know.

I feel like he might like make you like second guess your choice.

Jax Taylor.

Yeah, I put him in the bucket of one of the people who was like rambling on and you won't, he won't ever get to the point.

Yeah.

I love this for you, though.

I'm sorry you're getting divorced, but I think you have a great approach to it.

I've always said that like if you're not, if you're divorcing like without kids, like, because that's sad, obviously.

But if you're just like, you made a mistake and you're divorcing and like you have an ex-husband, and people are like really deeply ashamed of that.

We need to totally get rid of the stigma on having an ex-husband.

I think it's incredibly chic, especially if it's a situation without kids.

Because that would be the family.

Yeah, it's like, it's really no big deal.

But sometimes people, you know, you realize you married the wrong person and it just happens and it's fine.

But then you like have this chip on your shoulder that you have an ex-husband at like 27.

It's really not a big deal.

I think you should have Mantai Teo do it.

That's like, obviously, you're getting a great product, but you're also sending the money to a great place.

A great cause.

Well, yeah, he's a person, not a charity.

No, the cause of uplifting Mantaiteo after what the world did to him.

Yeah.

Of raising his star.

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