The Point Was Not Well Made: Thursday, September 11th, 2025

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I don't know how paragy of a day one can have.

It is 9-11.

And I'm sorry, there's just like no good segue into that.

Yeah, so it's 9-11.

Yeah, no, it's a somber day for sure, 24th anniversary of 9-11.

Yesterday was such a terrible day.

Charlie Kirk was assassinated.

It's just been like so awful and so heartbreaking.

And for like.

I don't know if, I don't know if everybody like knows who he was, but like he was a very prominent and like beloved conservative commentator.

And it just speaks to like the state of our country that you can't even have open debate because that was really his MO was just like debate.

Like, hey,

college campuses and like

yeah, he basically held Q ⁇ As.

Like literally just talking, like very like moderately calmly and like just a discussion of ideas.

And so to watch him like get

shot every broad daylight.

Saw that video.

Like I think he probably died like at the hospital.

And now there's a manhunt underway for the killer.

Like it is just like so terrible, so tragic.

He's a father, he has two small children, he has a wife.

Like, it's just a horrible story.

It's such a, it's like the first thing I've experienced like this in my lifetime, I think.

Like, it's so crazy.

I feel like everyone's talking about it.

And what's been so crazy is, like, obviously it's like the wildest thing, right?

Just being shot and shot in broad daylight like that.

And, like, it's, it's such a televised, not televised, but like filmed event.

Like, everyone has a video of it.

Like, it's so crazy.

Um, but seeing like then the discourse unfold online, like it really is a reminder how like

the internet is the, the most horrible place on the planet.

Like the fact that like you can't really even just discuss like this, like how sad the event is without being like, well, what about, well,

okay, shut up.

Like, okay,

just chill.

Like something awful just happened.

Yeah.

It was just, and then today I woke up and I was like, oh my God, it's 9-11.

And like, something about 9-11, like if in the city, like whenever people talk about 9-11, like that day, the first thing they remark on is the weather.

Yeah.

They were like, it was the perfect day.

And I'm telling you, every 9-11 since, Jackie, it is the most insanely gorgeous day outside, not a cloud in the sky.

It's so eerie.

A little eerie.

It's so eerie.

I feel like it's exactly what the weather was like

on that day.

So there's just like a weird vibe in the city today.

Like when you walk around, everyone's like, you know, everyone's thinking it.

And it always, like, I feel like we say this every year, but it's such a reminder that there are like plenty of people alive who weren't alive for that.

And like for us, it marked such, I feel like a lot of people like, it changed their whole lives, right?

Like there was a before and there was an after.

And so there are just people like with jobs walking around who like don't even know what we're talking about.

And it's so crazy.

Yeah, well, they know what we're talking about, but like to have like lived it.

Oh, I'm sorry.

They know what we're talking about.

That's not what I meant.

They, they weren't, it's just like an event

in history as opposed to like something that you lived through that just like really changed the world.

Like Hiroshima, you know, like it was crazy back then, but now it's something like in the textbook.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And so the fact that there are people on earth like who lived it and people who didn't is just so weird yeah so thinking today of everyone who lost their lives everyone who gave their lives yeah everyone first responders you know actually when i went to the us open

um i was chit-chatting with my driver and he was like oh i'm a former fdny

firefighter and you know he was like a certain age and i'm like oh were you i it was like the first thing i thought i'm like were you you know at ground zero and he was like yeah i'm like does everyone everyone ask you that?

He's like, literally, everyone.

He was like, we were part of the cleanup crew.

So they weren't there on the day of.

They went down because he was like South Queens.

But it's just like in the heartbeat of the city, like people who either live here now or were there at the time.

It's just like this sort of ever-present thing.

And once a year, like everybody takes the time to really remember it and tell stories of the day, like, of course, like the best of us running towards danger, like really just like

there's so many stories, right?

Like, you know, because it's thousands of people, but it's just,

it's always a weird day, like, especially when I, I don't know why I feel like so, I'm always talking about the weather when it comes to 9-11, because it's like, it was like the perfect backdrop for this tragedy, right?

And today it's just like, it's the same exact weather.

Yeah, that's spooky.

So, yeah, it's just

an off day.

Not super pargey, I would say, but we are here to bring the parge as best as we can.

And we'll get there.

And the story is actually good.

And like, we'll, we'll swirl around but like it would we'd be remiss to not just talk about like the tone in the air the feeling in the country and just like the tragic events of the last 24 hours and 24 years ago no and seriously like i'm not even saying this as a joke how did we get here how do we get out yeah

now i don't know how else to transition so i'm just going to talk about something like a little silly okay okay so we sit in these chairs right and i don't know if you know about me i always put like a bolster behind this pillow.

I see it sometimes, yeah.

So I'm like pushed forward because my feet don't touch the ground.

And you always sit in the chair as like God intended.

Oh, well, thank you.

My feet don't touch the ground either.

No, I know.

And I always think it's like so weird that you choose not to like follow me and do like the bolster thing.

No, you look like you're always trying to like leave the show.

Well, because of my coccidia.

I just sit like this.

Okay.

Yes.

Yes.

Because of my coccidinia.

Yes, I did Patreon.

And I think Claudia ended the podcast standing up.

Okay.

Obviously, you don't have like sympathy or understanding of what living with coccydenia is like, but you know, it's okay as we're used to it.

No, I um

I have sympathy.

I have my own aches and pains.

And so like I really, um, I'm just looking out for number one here, you know?

So all's that to say is I've scooted back because I always look fatter than you, even though I am, but like I don't need to look at every day because I'm always more close to the camera.

Now I'm backed up.

My legs are dangling off.

Like this is such a weird way to sit.

I can't believe you sit like this every day.

It's never bothered me.

And I was actually just thinking about our party set design and how we really crushed that um and how i love these chairs and how i can't believe we used to sit in the chairs that we sat in oh my god no wonder i have coccidenia you might as well have been sitting in like chairs that you would sit in at a desk at school like just like a chair no and i actually uh like want compensation i definitely deserve workers comp because my coccydinia is 100 related to being forced to sit in that crazy bouquet chair that was so hard and so thin like there was no cushion it was serious I just heard workers' comp.

No, it's like it's a, it's a nice looking chair.

And like when you, when it's in like your sitting room and you're just there to like sit, but to play.

That's what the kids call an accent chair.

Pop down for an hour and a half every day.

And like, you know, you're supposed to be comfortable, which will breed great discourse.

I can't believe we did it in those chairs for so long.

And I'm so grateful to these chairs.

I think they're fab.

And if our show back then had like a negative tenor to it, that's why.

But it didn't even because we're such professionals.

Because you can't stop the beat right

exactly so shout out to these chairs i just wanted to take a moment of appreciation i know like the frames get all the glory

but like the chairs deserve all of the no the frames get all the grit honestly none of the glory they're really the face of the show so they get both they get like all the praise when it's good and all the criticism when it's bad so true

um I watched the final episode of the Summer I Turn Pretty, which was actually not the final episode of The Summer I Turned Pretty.

I don't know why I I just assumed that the 72-minute long 10th episode was going to be,

or was that the finale?

No.

Why is it so confusing?

Because like, why wouldn't it be?

But it didn't end.

Like.

Was it good?

Or

Jerry and Belly together?

No, there's another one.

Okay, there's another one.

I just want to say, I'm so sick of this show.

Belly's like living in Paris and she thinks that like, you know, she's so classic.

Like, I'm just going to, like, I blew up my life, so I'm going to go live in Paris and like be Emily.

Like, she's literally being Emily.

And she's still like the same dumb bitch, except she's wearing red lipstick.

And she thinks that, like, the red lipstick is like, and I get what they're doing.

Like, the red lipstick is supposed to mark like a visual change in Billy.

She looks like a clown.

She looks like Miranda Sings.

Like, she's getting her hair cut and she's like, she's chopping her hair off because she's like having an existential crisis.

So she's telling the lady in the mirror, like, yeah, she's like, are you sure?

You want to?

Yeah, I'm sure.

She's wearing this like stupid red lipstick.

I hate this show.

And I'm not rooting for anyone.

So when does she get back together with Conrad?

Next week?

I don't know.

I don't know.

I'm like, they're just taking away.

I can see them changing the ending for the show where it's like she chooses herself.

Okay, I just want to say, I hate when people choose themselves.

Like, you could do both, actually.

You could, like, have a romantic partner and also like put yourself first.

In choosing love, you are choosing yourself because it's not.

Well, that's another way of looking at it.

But you can also like do the hard work, work on yourself, grow, become the person you want to be whilst in a relationship.

I don't like that, like, TV and movies are always teaching us that those two are mutually exclusive.

They're literally so crazy that you could have like two potential suitors that you're toggling between for 10 years because they're both so fabulous and both so in love with you.

And like you're like, no, I think I'm going to like go with neither of them.

And then eventually like a third perfect candidate for me is going to come along.

Is that what you're saying?

Right.

Like

you get three great loves in your life, please.

It's such a frustrating show to watch.

And like I'm not into it anymore.

I'm just like waiting for them to play the Taylor Swift songs.

That's literally it.

Yeah.

Yeah, it sounds really bad like when you just it is.

Her and her stupid red lipstick.

I couldn't get over it.

And like they do a lot of like subtle subtle product placement on the show and I was just waiting for like a Revlon, you know, but it wasn't.

And if I'm a makeup brand, like I don't want to be like, nobody wants to blame it.

Maybe they saw the footage.

Maybe they sponsored it, saw the footage and said, never mind.

Forget it.

Take care.

Control Z.

Keep our name out your mouth.

Literally.

So that's what I did last night, just like keeping up with our tween demographic.

Cause you know, we're huge with the Gen Z's, and I just want them to be like, yeah, I'm watching the same show as you.

I'm young and hip.

I might have had a baby, but I'm still extremely cool.

But they like the show.

So does you not liking the show like it does that give old?

Shows my age.

I will say I think the people critiquing the show are like the older people.

I think.

But I don't know.

I don't know.

Yeah.

What did they say like on TikTok?

Like when you see people.

Like, love it.

It's like a culture.

They're like, I'm like, keep up everything.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think you're showing your age.

But that's a bridge too far.

Like, you can't watch a show for the young people and then also pretend to like it for the young people.

And then start lying.

Like, that's crazy.

No, that's not what we do here.

I just really loved those books.

I was definitely like a little too old to be reading them, but I really enjoyed them.

And I do think for the most part, they've adapted the show quite well, but like they're really making a meal out of this reunion.

And it's like, I tuned into the show for three seasons just to see the reunion.

Like, what am I going to get at this point?

Less than an episode of them together.

Maybe they're preparing for Shayla.

Shayla's big return.

Shayla's big return.

I love that.

Let me know if it happens.

I will.

I'll keep you updated on Shayla's big grand reveal.

Can't wait.

What's it with you?

Not too much.

What did I watch last night?

I'm ready to start something new.

I heard like Love is Blind Denver is out.

Is it out?

I saw that Netflix just released like pictures of the people.

Oh, okay.

You can't go buy those pictures, by the way.

Ready?

To dive into a new season of Love is Blind.

Love is Blind UK didn't do it for me, but it gave me like, you know, the appetite for it.

Like, if I just looked at the pictures from Love is Blind UK, and I think a lot of the contestants like posted their photos, they were like,

don't look at me.

Those pictures are so cruel towards the contestants.

Agreed.

So I don't want to have any preconceived notions.

I won't be looking at the photos, but I'm excited for the season to start.

I was actually going to start Perfect Match because you know my girl Juliet was on it.

And Freddy.

Yes.

And by the way, I know the outcome of Freddy's time on the show.

Do you?

Based on what?

No, I don't.

Based on what you know, should I watch?

No.

Okay.

he gets together with someone who I know you know from a different show, who and you want me to tell you, yeah, yeah, now that you said no.

So, remember the most previous season of Love is Blind where there was like the love triangle with Ben Platt and that girl Madison,

yeah,

Freddie and like matched with Madison, and they're like together on the show, although they announced afterwards that they didn't make it, you know, after the show wrapped.

Okay, that's good.

I guess, like, that would be worse him being with someone that, like, I don't love for him, right?

Um, but I do need him on more shows.

Oh, I forgot to tell you a huge update in my life.

I got a water machine.

And you didn't forget to tell me.

Oh, sorry.

I forgot to tell you on the show.

Yeah, I saw you consuming your water raving about it.

Yeah, like it's one of those machines that like just water comes out of, you know, like a water machine.

Yeah, I've used it twice already.

I'm drinking water today.

Slay the house down boots.

Just like, I don't know, kind of grown girl shit.

Health things.

Yeah.

And once I told ben like it's like i can't even just have something you know i told ben i'm like i got a water machine he's like we should get one for the house i'm like well we shouldn't because it's big and black and ugly it's fine for the office but not for my home he was like well i really need it like for my sourdough so you know what you have you have a water cooler are you gonna be having chats

If only I had like coworkers, we would like check out a water cooler

just to talk to.

Cooperate them around your water cooler.

Oh, Ben did start his loaf this morning.

I have to update everyone.

I know.

He texted me saying it's bread day.

I said, keep me updated.

You FaceTimed me because he had a question.

I am very excited for the two of you on your journey.

I mean, I personally feel like I've been lied to.

I thought I would have bread for like the last week.

I've just been like watching this smelly, yeasty mason jar on my counter grow mold.

And so I'm ready to like receive a product.

Yeah, it will still be like another 24 hours, but yeah.

You're getting close.

Maybe like Ben woke up today.

Like, it's coronation day.

He was like, it's bread day.

Great.

Every day is bread day.

Monday, tuesday bread day i need to make a loaf i feel like my loaves that i made last week they're so good by the way but i feel like they're gonna like they're about to mold and then i'm gonna have nothing i made a loaf this morning a pargy loaf yeah just like my morning loaf don't be yucky don't be yucky

why i don't i don't have a period

because i'm breastfeeding you know actually slay a lot of people don't know you don't get a period while you're breastfeeding part of the reason why i'm doing it well not every everyone's different people get their period when they're breastfeeding not a few

yeah the doctor said like no you don't.

No, no, no.

It's not 100% for everyone.

Some people get their period back while they're breastfeeding.

I do.

No, it's like you have it.

It's like, no, I don't think that that's true.

It literally is true.

Slides down.

Yeah, like no period.

So, like, if I can't talk about that bodily function, I'm going to have to talk about something else.

And speaking of bodily functions, Jackie and I recorded a speaking of periods.

Yes, we did a little update, new mama stuff, pregnancy stuff with Jackie, checking in with her, checking in with me.

It was hilarious.

And yeah, you're not becoming a leader in in the space.

For sure.

She's so open.

She's so vulnerable.

Oh, did you see, is this a story that Nino Dobrev and Sean might have broken up?

I did see.

I'm up.

I just briefly checked my phone during, you know, a little production moment.

And, okay, so I didn't know if you had it for your stories.

Yeah, I did.

I'm up on the trades.

Okay, okay.

Yeah, of course.

I don't know why I expected anything else.

Yeah.

Well, if you want to get into it, we could get into it.

How are the stories today?

There's no segment today.

It's just a regular episode of The Toast.

Sorry, everyone.

It was so exciting yesterday.

We had our segment.

Everyone was Did you see us getting hate for our segment?

I saw like three people were disgruntled that the segment wasn't like juicy enough.

Like, no, that they said it was only one submission, not three.

Like, you guys, it was an extra.

Like, I seriously, GTQ, I can't even defend you anymore.

Like, please stop coming from my neck.

And then they were like, and the submission wasn't even that good.

And I didn't like it.

I thought it was really good.

No,

it was an extra.

Like, it was fun, extra.

I believe the words you were looking for are thank you.

Yeah, like, you're welcome my god like i seriously i i used to come from a place of like understanding with the dtq and now i'm coming from a place of hate like seriously get off my back yeah that was really crazy but it was only like a couple people it wasn't like the overwhelming response yeah you're gonna

um

but still like come on guys

do better just like enjoy the the bonus the bonus jonas

Speaking of the bonus, no kidding.

I had nothing to say about the bonus Jonas.

Oh, okay, cool.

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Our first story love is dead sean white and nina brobev dobrev end their engagement and split after five years so nina dobrev and sean white have against all odds been dating it's so true it was like a fun fling that like we all just like were in two worlds coming together and then they were

yeah they got engaged um october 2024 so i guess like it's been a year shitter get off the pop they started dating in 2019 um and you know what i'm i'm surprised by this i feel like they were going to go the distance.

Who gets Miles Teller in the divorce?

I think she does.

Yeah, because of her close relationship with Kelly.

Yeah, I think.

But maybe like him and Sean will remain friends for a little bit until it becomes unfeasible.

Yeah, this is so interesting because it was like this random thing.

They were spotted together and it definitely seemed like a fun night out or whatever, but it turned into this like really fun, cute relationship.

They were friends with so many celebrities.

They were always spotted out.

I think for Nina, it was like a great get because like for so long, Nina was just like like the girl.

And I didn't keep up with vampire diaries, but it's actually crazy how famous she is.

I know she's worked since then, but not in anything meaningful.

But she's sort of like the Jennifer Aniston.

There was like a love triangle and she was the injured party.

And that was just like always her thing.

They were always talking about, I think it was Ian, right?

I don't know.

And Nikki.

Yeah, obsessed.

And they're still together and they like live a quiet life.

And she has one pair of jeans that she wears every day.

Yeah, she's one of those people, Nikki Reed, who like gave up all her material, earthly items.

Could never be me.

So when she got in this new relationship, I I was like actually really happy for her because it looked really cute.

But also like it took her out of this narrative finally of being like this loser in the triangle, like the girl who lost.

And I really thought they were, I didn't even think about them.

I'm like, they're just a couple.

You know, they're together forever.

I thought they would eventually get married.

I didn't even think about them when it came to people, like who could possibly be breaking up.

Yeah, it's a loss for sure.

Huge.

I'm not even excited, like, who will they date next?

Nothing would be more like exciting than this, like bridging two different worlds, bringing together.

They were a very social couple.

They were always like with other couples.

They went through COVID together.

I think she gave them a haircut.

You know, they've been through a lot.

I do feel like it's possibly not the end.

Like, this could be a breakup that maybe pushes them finally down the aisle.

I don't know.

I'm shocked by this.

Yeah.

I feel like it's the end.

The source, they're saying that it was a mutual decision, wasn't an easy one, but it was made with love and a deep respect for one another

sure

um

wait so you love each other stay together right if you have so much respect what is all you can hope for in a relationship is love and deep respect like those are two really good starting out points and you know it's not like scheduling because she's really not that busy as an actress and he is retired Well, I want to say, like, do you think maybe she fell in love with her co-star from

the center?

Because that's what that movie needs.

Agreed, but no.

It would be great for the movie but no why no

um

because I think like

what she had with Sean was better than that do you know what I mean like a like a you don't think seeing Tyler Ho Chill as the fisherman

and I don't even think they've started production so like that would be crazy if they started fucking weathering the storm no storm what did he call it when he would give her a hug a charging station oh my god that's such a niche reference from the book how do you remember that cute.

Yeah, charging station.

That is cute.

Like, how could she not fall for him in his charging station?

Jackie, they haven't started yet.

Maybe at the table read, she got charged up.

Maybe.

I don't think they've table read yet.

Maybe screen testing.

This is really crazy.

Like, I do wonder what breaks up

a couple like that.

Like, they don't have real problems, you know?

I could see him being a little non-committal.

Like, maybe there was never going to be a wedding.

Maybe, Maybe, you know, he's kind of dicking her around a little bit and she was a shit off the get-off the pod situation.

And so she has to get off the ride.

I weirdly know a lot about Sean White because Ben made me watch his documentary, which was very good, actually, on Netflix.

And he, we, he like means a lot to like a certain generation of men, my husband included.

Like he's literally Ben's idol.

I've actually been thinking a lot about who are Ben's idols because Ben has like a lot of different personalities.

And last night I was actually thinking

of who are Ben's idols.

And I think this is who Ben's idols are.

Jack Black.

Stanley Tucci.

Okay.

I would go as far to say Sean White.

Like he's definitely in there.

And then somebody like musical.

What about like Kobe?

He loves musical players.

No, but who's Ben's favorite basketball player?

It was like John Wall, who was like this Nick.

Yeah.

Let me.

I'm going to ask Ben.

Hold on.

I feel like it was Kobe.

He was really affected by the passing.

He was, but I think all young men were.

Right.

No, but I think he's just like everyone's, all young men, like

their idol.

Stanley Tucci.

Really Stanley Tucci?

Yes.

I feel like

between Jack Black and Inagarten, like you have Stanley Tucci covered.

No, I think Ben like really respects like his masculine approach to like the culinary space, honestly.

Okay.

Janley Tucci, Jack Black.

What about a basketball player?

Who's I feel like I'm forgetting like who's well Jalen Brunson, but like that's new.

That is new.

Jalen Brunson didn't raise him.

No, John Wall.

Didn't Michael Jordan?

John Wall.

No.

What's the guy's name?

John Stark?

What about John Wall?

Michael Jordan.

Like, no.

He's not a Jordan guy?

No.

Who are like the great basketball players?

Wayne Gretzky.

He plays hockey.

No, I know, but he's like someone who's like an iconic sportsman.

A lot of young men look up to.

Iconic sportsman of New York.

Is Wayne Gretzky New York?

He's a ranger.

Oh, I didn't know that.

Mm-hmm.

I'll have to think.

No, it's Jon Stark for sure.

Not John Wall?

Yeah, I got confused.

John Wall is a different basketball player.

No, Ben like tells the story.

And John Stark is also like, because he's like a very famous Nick.

He moves in a lot of Jewish circles because like literally only Knicks fans are like young Jewish boys.

And I believe Jon Stark was like at Ben's bar mitzvah or something.

What about about Derek Jeter?

Ben wasn't huge into baseball.

Like, really, Ben's, like,

he loves basketball.

Not Mike Piazza?

No.

No.

Sad.

I know Mike Piazza is your idol.

Yeah, what about any football players?

Tim Tebow?

No.

Mark Sanchez?

That's my idol.

Yeah.

Where is he?

He's in my TMs, actually, Mark Sanchez, because we spoke about him once on the toast, and he he messaged me and I just like didn't answer because I felt weird.

So moving on.

I can't.

I seriously can't.

If I talked about you on the toast, like do not message me.

Do not come.

Okay.

No, please stop.

Did we learn nothing from Tarek?

Like

stop it.

Are you ready for our next story?

Yeah.

Kylie Kelsey said she's made a very conscious effort not to discuss Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey's engagement.

So Kylie Kelsey hopped on the pod today

to address some rumors swirling because I guess she never talked about the engagement on her podcast since they've gotten engaged.

She didn't congratulate the couple.

She must have been getting so much backlash because she felt the need to address it on her podcast today.

She said, quote, I have made a very conscious effort to not discuss Taylor and Travis on this podcast because news outlets, tabloids, and AI, quite frankly, like to post quotes from whatever I say in reference to them.

She

said that like pretty much like she has a private relationship with them.

If she has nothing to say or congratulate them, like she just texts them.

She doesn't need to say it on the show.

She hates when people just like take what she says either one out of context or two like make a whole meal out of it and it's like hey you know eyes up here i'm doing a show i totally agree with her sentiment like what she's actually saying is like no she doesn't need to make a comment every time something happens to people who are not her like

but

that's like not but also like that's not even what it's not a comment it's it just it's a woohoo like you know but it becomes a news story like i know what she's saying it's annoying it's the biggest story in the country you know it's not like you just like skipped over your brother-in-law's personal news like the biggest story in country she does a podcast every week where they like talk about relevant items like her husband and his podcast like talked about you are literally going out of your way to not talk about it and like i listened to the clip of her talking about it like she had a fucking attitude like she was hostile i'm sorry if anything like i think more than ever now and i've always thought like these two like definitely have a good relationship because like they both want it to work and like they're not trying to like start stuff but if they were in high school like they would hate each other right they're polar opposite in terms of personality taylor is like glittery fun like um

it's funny because in this picture of them side by side like they literally could be sisters they are sisters but well they are sisters they just seem like two totally different personality types

um who wouldn't be friends with the chill girl and then right chill girl right right exactly um

and i've always thought that like they're actually not a good match friendship wise but there's probably no bad blood and there probably isn't bad blood but like i don't know kylie's like unnecessarily like harsh in her tone because i don't agree disagree with what she's saying at all like it's like why do i have to make a comment all the time but like you do like you do yeah and here's like i feel like if she never said anything i would have like less concern because i understand why she doesn't talk about them there are a lot of things that you could say as to why like she wouldn't talk about them donna wouldn't like it's it's this larger than life sort of thing you don't want to like step in taylor's world you don't want to say the wrong thing can I play the clip

sure could I finish what I was saying oh sorry yeah sorry that was so rude yeah sorry sorry you got and I do think sometimes like you can't explain yourself like she would have been better off not explaining herself because it's not reading a hundred percent even though they might have a fine relationship and things are fine but like

Sometimes people will never understand what you're trying to say or understand the full picture and it's like not worth explaining yourself because you can only do it halfway.

No, and so she didn't congratulate them because she she didn't want it to become a story.

But now, like, her addressing the non-addressing is becoming the story.

And it's like, it's negative.

Yeah.

And, like, she could always have these reasons in her head for why she doesn't talk about them.

And I think there are plenty more than what she just said.

But trying to explain it, it's really hard for people to understand.

And this is the explanation.

And I just want to say, I understand what she's saying.

Her tone makes me think like she doesn't even believe what she's saying.

Because

what she's saying and how she's saying it are totally different.

A very conscious effort to not discuss Taylor and Travis on this podcast.

Is this on 1.5?

I don't know.

When I listened to it, it sounded like sped up.

So I feel like that we need to know that.

Okay.

I have made a very conscious effort to not discuss Taylor and Travis on this podcast because

news outlets, tabloids, and AI, quite frankly, like to post

only the quotes that they grab from whatever I say in reference to them.

And here's that I here's where I think there is a disconnect.

People do not realize that you at home, you have your family and in your family, you might have a brother-in-law and they might be dating someone.

They might have, you might have a soon-to-be sister-in-law,

but you have a relationship personally with them that no one else is involved in because it's your relationship.

And so I don't need to come out here.

Pause.

And make.

I just want to say that point was not well made.

I don't even know what she's saying, honestly, about my sister-in-law.

She's saying something.

The point was not well made, but she's like, it's an impossible task to try and explain yourself.

Go on.

It is.

And also, like, you might have a sister-in-law.

Right.

But not normally.

But no, I'm saying, not all of you are public figures.

That's like, it's not a relatable analogy.

Yes, I have a sister-in-law.

She is not a public figure.

I would never like put her on blast here or talk about like what's going on in her life.

She's a private citizen.

Like, that's, it's not a relatable analogy.

No, it's not.

Because, like, if your sister-in-law got engaged, like, you say, congratulations, nobody's like looking to you for anything else.

Right.

Um,

pointless not well-made.

Statements when I already talked to them.

You see what I'm saying?

No, we know that you talked to them.

We didn't think that you didn't congratulate them privately.

We just know you didn't congratulate them publicly.

So we were like, what's going on?

We weren't.

By the way,

pause.

Oh, yeah.

I didn't even think that.

I didn't even notice it.

And now I'm like noticing stuff.

My shit.

I don't need you to take my comments and try and dissect it.

I think it goes without being said.

I am

I would agree with her wholeheartedly if she didn't host a podcast.

She's like begrudgingly famous.

Yeah.

I get it.

She's like, she's she's the opposite of she does not want this life, but she does have a podcast and she is a part of this.

So like

I would agree with what everything she was saying if she wasn't saying it on her own weekly podcast.

That's like not devoid from like her relevant topics and relevant topics in the world.

She talks about her family.

She talks about what's going on in the world.

So, like, what's going on in the world with your family is Taylor.

Yeah.

So, incredibly happy for them.

We are so excited that they are taking this next step.

The girls are so excited to get another aunt.

I am so truly happy for them.

And I feel so happy for them.

And I feel so grateful that we get to welcome Taylor into our family in a more official capacity.

And I just feel like when you have to say it, like, I expected that you're happy for them.

I'm expecting the girls are so excited.

When you have to say it, it just reads wrong.

And I just want to say, if I'm Taylor and I'm hearing this, like, I'm not feeling warm and fuzzy, you know?

But, and that's why it's like, and then Kylie will like, if she heard this sort of criticism, she would be like, I don't know.

Well, this is why I didn't say anything.

And for me, I'm like, and you should have stayed not saying anything because there's really nothing that you can say that's ever going to like.

wash away if people have this sort of like niggling concern, which I didn't even.

I can understand that they're just sister-in-laws.

You ended up saying something and what you said wasn't just congratulations, you know?

Like, because if you weren't going to say anything, say nothing.

Stick to that.

I love that.

I really do.

Because I'm not sure.

And like, know in your heart that you've been there for them.

And of course, you're close.

And the whole world is crazy.

Right, right.

But the fact that you did end up doing a segment on your podcast about it and it wasn't just like congrats.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But it's our private relationship.

So

that's my brother-in-law, Travis, and my soon-to-be sister-in-law, Taylor.

And so I don't, I don't need to talk about them all the time.

Our relationship is private between us.

It's giving bad blood.

Like, I'm telling you, she seems mad.

Yeah, it's giving angry.

But like, that's also just like her, her shtick.

Also, you have to realize, like, her tone in her podcast is like, you know, yelling at everybody.

She's very, like, this is how, not, sorry.

Not gonna lie, like, this is how it is.

She's like, see yell at everyone.

Yeah.

Literally us.

Yeah, so it's like, when you take it out of context, like, you're like, oh, why is she, like, talking like this right now?

But she talks like that about everything.

On her podcast.

But again, we are taking it out of context, like you said, we would do, and you just should have had enough confidence and like knowing that, like, you guys have a great relationship.

This is how you want to run your show.

You don't want to feed the beast.

You know, it's like this huge thing in your brother and sister-in-law's life, and like, you're not going to address it, which like is okay, whatever.

But then you did address it, and so, like, you should have just addressed it when it happened and said, Congratulations.

But now, like, I don't know, if I'm Taylor, maybe like they have like a really good, strong relationship, they're best friends, like, nothing can break them.

But if I'm Taylor, I'm like, okay,

That's a little rude.

Yeah.

Not perfectly done, I would say.

And Ben says his sports idols are Kobe, Carmelo, Anthony, Amari Stademeyer, and Derek Jeter.

I just don't feel like he ever.

I'm two out of four.

I know.

I just don't feel like he ever talks about these people.

Like, honestly, I feel like he doesn't know what he's like, misunderstanding the word idol.

No, but I also feel like at the time that they shaped him as a young man, like you weren't his wife.

So like maybe he doesn't talk about them anymore, but like they were formative in his life.

And I just want to say I'm 50% there.

Yeah, you were.

And there was no Jon Stark?

Yeah, like I feel like.

Jon Stark is from Game of Thrones.

What is basketball player's name?

Who I'm thinking of?

He's obviously not like a household name.

No, he's not.

That's the thing.

He's not.

John Stark.

Write back.

What about John Wall Stark?

By the way, you're literally just talking about Game of Thrones, John at the Wall Stark.

Snow.

John Starks was a famous and popular shooting guard for the Knicks.

I was right.

So, right back.

What about John Starks?

What about John Starks?

It's funny how, like, you think you know your partner, you know?

Yeah.

You're like one of those women on Dateline.

I wonder.

I feel like I could guess Zax.

I feel like I could get Zach too.

Drake.

Okay.

Drake is definitely one of your husband's idols.

Roger Stahlbach.

Justin Denver.

Like,

I think Kobe Bryant also, because he had

universal.

Like, that's cute.

That's real love.

This is real.

Real,

real,

real love.

All right, I'll keep you posted on Jon Stark.

Please do.

Jon Stark at the wall with a knife.

I don't know how I can go through the rest of the show without knowing.

Yeah.

All is that to say, I'm like, I'm just like, I can't lie.

I think before this, I thought that there was weird blood.

I could just see, I think I've said this on this podcast before, like, I could just see Kylie really not liking Taylor and thinking she's annoying.

They're such different girls, honestly.

I don't think that it has to be like bad blood, but I think sometimes, like, I think Taylor met Brittany and they were kindred spirits.

And like, you feel that.

They don't have to spend as much time together as they do.

They obviously connect and click.

And like, sometimes that happens with people.

And then sometimes you don't have that click.

It doesn't mean that you dislike each other or hate or that there's bad blood, but it's like we don't have that like connection,

which most people don't.

It's a, it's a rare thing to have just right like it's just your sister-in-law like yeah yeah i think that's how their relationship is like nothing negative or anything but just like not this best friend for life yeah so before this like i had a little seed of doubt for sure i think now some people have that seed because of this very strange podcast conversation um

we'll just have to see yeah like will she be a bridesmaid and like if i guess because travis is like on the show but like jason I feel like is always down, like, to get in on Taylor lore and, like, ride the wave that is Taylor.

Like, it's paid off for him in so many ways, career-wise, success-wise.

It's introduced him to a generation of women who love him for him now, but they only know about him because of Taylor.

And I feel like he's just always game and always on board and like doesn't care if it's like, well, Taylor.

And I feel like Kylie's just kind of the opposite.

Like, she wants her own thing.

For sure.

But they're different in a lot of ways other than just that.

So, like, I'm not going to say that that means anything.

Like, he's a wild man.

She's not.

Right.

She's always sort of like chastising him for like, you know what I mean?

They're very different.

So that they could be different in this sense too.

Yeah.

Are you ready for our next story?

Speaking of more family drama.

What?

Prince Harry and King Charles reunited in London for the first time in over a year.

Oh, I didn't even see this.

Yes.

Harry was in London.

He's been in London this week and he was spotted arriving at King Charles's London home, Clarence House, around 5.20 p.m.

local time Wednesday for a private tea.

The pair chatted for just shy of an hour, Page 6 is told, much longer than the 30-minute meeting they had the last time that the Duke visited his father.

Damn, like, I know that like there's a lot of bad relationships between Harry and the family, but like him and Charles like definitely have one of the worst.

Well, it has to be a little better than him and William because he did not see William.

True, but he's also like the king of England.

So like you also, as Harry, as like a Brit, a royal member of the family, like you have to have also like a little bit of respect and visit.

I think you like you have to visit.

You have to be asked.

Yeah.

You don't have to visit William.

I mean, you don't have to visit Charles.

I don't know.

How are you going to come into his kingdom?

Like, it's literally like

you, you'll step into my land.

This is like Charles's world and Harry is just sort of living in it.

Yeah.

And I know that they want for their children a lot of

things that the royal family can give them like titles and royal protection and things like that so like you do sort of have to have to kiss the ring yeah you think Harry is still seeking those things yes I think it's very important to him and Megan that like the things that the royal family can give Archie and Lilibet that that they get them or they at least try to um do they not have titles I honestly I don't know and I can't keep up with I can't and they also got titles stripped from them and then they use them still for business like there's a lot of confusion confusion.

I don't know.

And I can't like speculate because I like, I don't want to be wrong.

I don't want to like the comments and then the comments like that.

I'm like, oh, so they said they have titles and then those comments are wrong.

Everyone's wrong.

Nobody knows what's going on.

I agree with you.

Now, it's interesting because I feel like Harry and Megan take turns being the public-facing person of their relationship.

Like, it's definitely been Megan's hour for the last year or so with the podcast and with the TV show.

And before that, it was Harry with the world tour and the books.

I do feel like Megan's going to start winding down soon it's like hibernation right like she goes into the cave and he comes out um maybe his big trip to london meeting with the king marks a changing of the guard season two is out she's gonna start winding down yeah he's gonna start winding up he was at the world child awards which molly may was at and she posted him oh i enjoy megan's public facing era more than i i really you guys know i hate harry and with megan it's fun and it's light um and it's unoffensive and like we have a good time with with love i got a pr package like I

really have an issue with him.

No, with Megan, it's definitely like light and fun.

And there's a lot of like fodder for us.

But like with Harry, it's tea.

Like it's just so crazy.

Everything he does is so crazy.

It's very true.

And everything he doesn't do is so crazy.

Also true.

Like not seeing your brother.

Your brother's having a bad time.

What a hard year.

Brother, right.

And Kate.

Right.

Right.

Like things are bad enough.

Like, it's people fight all the time, but then like big things, tragedies bring you together and you realize like the meaning of family and the meaning of life and like they're beyond that point, which makes sense because he wrote a tell-all book talking shit about him and her that came out probably at a really difficult time.

He's like, sometimes you cut off your brava

just to spite your face.

And like that'll do it.

Like that's cause.

I have no issue with William and Cape or not wanting to meet with him.

I just want to issue a correction.

Jon Starks was not at Ben's Bar Mitzvah.

He was in Ben's Bar Mitzvah video.

They like made a video for him.

He said he was at his bar mitzvah.

I believe I did.

I don't

So who's not listening to?

I missed that.

That would have been crazy.

Yeah.

Who he was in his video?

In what capacity?

I'm not sure.

I'm actually like, I don't really care anymore, you know?

Kind of over John Stark at the wall.

Okay.

Are you ready for our fourth story?

Oh my God.

No, that was so quick.

I know.

I guess it wasn't.

Like, remember when we talked about Sean White?

And that was a while ago.

Sometimes I wish that I could freeze the picture.

I'm having too much fun, Jackie.

Slow it down.

Okay, I'll slow it down.

And I'll see if there's anything else.

Maybe like a bonus extra story that you guys have.

See if any news.

Well, I do the ads.

See if any news broke or anything, okay?

Yeah, that's what, yeah, I always do when you're doing the ads.

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Are you ready for our fourth story now?

Yes.

Victoria Beckham's Netflix docuseries sets October premiere date.

So, Victoria Beckham's upcoming Netflix series titled Victoria Beckham has set a premiere date.

It is being produced by the production company that did David Beckham's.

documentary studio 99 and that's also David Beckham's production company and they do a good job producing production.

production they do my takeaway from the beckham documentary was like i want more of the beckham family obviously it was about him and his career or whatever but like so many of the takeaways were people just being obsessed with him and victoria and their life and she had so many viral moments jova bentley and she has the most fascinating life outside of her relationship with david the spice girls victoria beckham couture she's like literally for a very long period of time was one of the most famous women in the uk and i'm so looking forward to this of course i'm hoping they touch a little bit on what's going on with her daughter-in-law I know.

But because it's produced by David, for David, with David, like it's so not happening.

But she's so interesting outside of this scandal that she seems to be a part of.

So I'll be fine without it, although it would be nice.

Yeah, so it's going to chart the rise and rise of the Spice Girl turn fashion designer and mom of four.

And then it will also follow her as she preps for another fashion week show.

It'll be a three-part series dropping on October 9th.

But what will be interesting, and I doubt that they'll be there, is if Brooklyn and Nicola will go to the premiere.

Because remember, for David, the whole family.

So it will very much signal everything that we already know to be true if they don't go.

It'll also be interesting who they bring in as like, you know, testimonials in a documentary.

David had a lot of his like former players.

I'm assuming a Spice Girl or two will be involved.

You know, they're always available.

Yeah.

I wonder who

maybe Anna Wintour.

Maybe Anna Wintour.

Maybe Kim.

Like Kim is a friend of her.

Elon Gore is a really good friend of hers.

And who were they saying when they moved to LA they became really good friends with?

Was it Tom Cruise?

yeah i don't think he'll be in any

he's not one to be in a documentary and he would have been in david's yeah that was an interesting little factoid yeah they're good friends i feel like they're just going to give the people what they want because it was so good for them like not that they've ever had an image issue or a relevance issue but they've definitely been like low-key before david's documentary they were just like you know not has been Of course not, but like an older sort, but it injected this new life.

People became obsessed with them, their bees, their family, everything.

So I really think they're just going to give people more of what they want, which is behind the scenes at home stuff with them.

Victoria being her very posh self, talking about the Spice Girl.

So there's literally,

there's no reason they shouldn't do this.

No, and personally,

I'm very excited to watch it.

Like it's the exact sort of content I need right now.

Like docu series, I want like true, but I want serious and I want interesting, not just like nonsense.

And, you know, they're both big stars.

I don't, I don't know who I could say is like a more famous person in their relationship, but she does have an incredibly impressive business that I don't think a lot of people even think of when they think of the whole Beckham ecosystem.

She's literally at the helm of like a couture brand.

Yeah, Chanel, not really, but like it's up there.

Yeah.

No, and it's not been done except by like Mary Kate and Ashley Would Be Comfortable, but like the Row gets its flowers all the time.

Right, right.

Very excited.

Yes, I love this.

And yeah, the premiere is another interesting, if they do have like a big red carpet affair.

That'll just confirm.

I don't know.

I don't know why.

You're right.

We confirmed.

Like they weren't at the vow renewal.

They're not going to be there.

But like, because we have like this apples to apples comparison of like how it went for Davids,

they're not going to be there.

They're not going to be there.

Like, don't hold your breath.

And that will really signal.

Not that there's not been signals.

Right.

Also, what happened to Victoria?

No, Brooklyn and Nicola's like renaissance with Selena Gomez.

Like, was Nicola on

Selena's Bachelorette?

No.

What happened there?

That was like a weird, threesome friendship.

I mean, I mean, it was the kind of friendship like a couple only has with like a single woman.

Like, it was, you know, now that she, Celina has her own relationship, like, it was definitely like a weird, like, third-wheel thing.

Yeah, no, it's weird.

It's so weird to be so close and then not

close.

Like, and then, yeah, it confirms weirdness.

Like, there's no way.

It confirms weirdness.

We'll see if they're, if they're at her wedding.

Yeah.

Yeah.

If it's, like, a big affair.

There's definitely weirdness.

It's kind of seeming like maybe Nicola and Brooklyn are the problem, but we'll see.

Well, that's for damn sure.

Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

A little new couple news, a little sports news.

Because Brooks Nader is dating tennis pro Carlos Alcaraz after sparking Yannick Sinner rumors.

Okay, so that's what I had heard, that she was dating Sinner, who's not a woman.

I think I said that because she was like, they're doing press for their show.

She was on a radio show with them.

And by the way, someone else told me that too.

I heard it elsewhere.

Because

they were saying on the show that, like, the sisters were saying, they were talking about Brooks.

Like, oh, she's dating someone.

Yeah,

she's being courted.

You know,

in her racket.

Like, it's like, they're dropping all these clues.

And the ball's in your court.

Love, love.

Right, right.

And people deduce that it was.

Deduce.

I'm done.

People deduce.

that it was Yannick Sinner.

Right.

But it was actually Carlos Alcaraz who won the U.S.

Open.

Like, he's number one ring.

What a sleigh.

I'm sorry.

I know Yannick Sinner is technically the number one ranked player in the world, but in terms of fame, it's Alcaraz such a sleigh.

The house down.

And I'm sorry.

Like when it comes to, I feel like we've been talking a lot about like tennis wags, like Paige Lorenz.

Like, we need Brooks in there.

Get in there, girl.

Yeah, I worry, though, that they're not that serious and like putting it out there it's just gonna be like a flash in the pan like a lot of times like people date for a while underwater like think of it like an iceberg they have all this underwater and then you just see the tip at the top but there's all that there i just feel like we're just seeing the tip at the top and it's like not a lasting thing No, it's giving fling, but I'm having fun.

She said the rumors are true.

Dating is such a loose term, but I do know he's the man of the hour.

Where did she say that?

She's so crazy.

To Enus.

She is crazy.

And I watched the first two episodes of Love Thy Nator.

And they're about Gleb

because like he was meant to be like her boyfriend on the show and like be in the show.

And then in the first episode, like she catches him, really accidentally, like caught him like cheating in such like a

vigorous, voracious way.

Like he left her apartment and he left her phone at his at her apartment.

And he like left to go back on Dancing with the Stars tour.

And so first she's like calling him a million times and he's not picking up and she like is like freaking out.

She's like heart sick.

Like she thinks he's like ghosting her, whatever.

Then he finally gets in touch and said, I left my phone in the Uber.

I left my phone in the Uber.

So the Uber then dropped it off at Brooks's apartment.

Like

Brooks just like has this feeling that she should go through it.

And she gets into it and they don't even tell us the extent of what she found, but it was like all about like him having like threesomes and Joshua Tree, scheduling upcoming threesomes, videos of former.

What the fuck?

Yeah, like really twisted stuff.

And like they were feeling so sick.

Like he's living, he was like staying in an apartment with her and her three gorgeous sisters, probably like fantasizing about having like

stops.

Stop, stop, stop.

Really disgusting.

And she is torn up about it.

And that's like glub.

She's so crazy, though, because like

she was linked to Tom Brady.

She's like so upper echelon.

Like she's dating like the...

the most eligible guys, but then she's also like kind of lowbrow talking to EDU.

Like, yeah, I'm dating him.

Like, she's kind of crazy.

And like dating her dancing with the stars partner.

Right, that's lowbrow lowbrow.

it is and i i think her sisters were saying because they were sus on him like from the whole first episode and i think they were just saying like she's never been like adored like this before they called it love bombing but i just think like he just like she loved the way their relationship was um but girl you could do so much better and you are no i know it makes me like

excuse me i might have literally just burst into the microphone i'm sorry guys um

It makes me confused.

Yeah, it's confusing.

But her and her sisters are really cute.

They're like four girls.

they have such a cute dynamic my favorite is mary holland because she like works in finance and she's um she's not about this life yeah no and i think she's dating an earl

oh

love that yeah and she's just like the one like that has like the you know she's like the straight voice of reason voice of yeah like and so i really i i like getting to know her so you think she's probably like the charity

For sure.

And they're all like just so gorgeous.

But I also like I need more information on them.

Like I feel like they just like dropped the show They're like Brooks We grew up in Louisiana and Brooks brought us all to New York and we're here sports illustrated whatever I'm like how did we go from a

Maybe it's just that like but like I just feel like there's so I have so many questions about like the last five ten years, you know, and now they're all living in an apartment together in New York, which is like great for the show, but it's like, well, is it a nice apartment?

It's so nice.

How many bedrooms?

How many bedrooms?

I don't know.

And like, are you just moving in for like two months to film the show?

Like, right.

I just want more information.

I'm sure, like, there, maybe there's more in subsequent episodes.

Yeah, maybe if you watch more than two episodes, you would get the information.

I just like wanted to get, I just need more backstory.

And, like, even like Brooks's divorce.

Right.

And he's dating Naomi Olindo.

And they just kind of like skirt over that, which I understand because, like,

you're not going to like bring him into it.

He's pitching tomorrow.

And he's kind of like a common person.

He's not a celebrity.

He's a lay person.

Yeah.

But I'm going to need more info.

Yeah.

I'm going to need more info.

So,

anyways, Mazel Tov, like to Brooks and Carlos.

I hope that it goes a distance.

Yeah, it definitely is giving.

Like, he's in New York for the U.S.

Open and like, this is

how he's celebrating.

But if they do, I'm down for them to last.

But Brooks, I just feel like she's on this upward trajectory.

This is just one

notch in her bed post.

Agree, but I also feel like she's like a lover and would like love to be in a relationship.

But on the other hand, then her and her sisters were saying that she has a roster.

So I don't know where she's at today.

Me neither.

I know where I'm at.

And that's, I'm literally minutes from peeing in my pants.

So that's how I know it's sometimes there's like your body tells you that the show is over.

Hungry.

Usually, usually I get hungry.

Yeah.

Sometimes I have to pee.

Sometimes my coccidinia is flaring up so bad.

It's like if I go one more minute on this show, I will end up in the hospital.

Sometimes sweating.

Of course, but I don't know if I told you at some of you guys, nobody's really noticed.

My little black remote.

Sometimes you guys might see in the last like week or two, I've just been like clicking my remote.

I've got a lot of stuff.

I'm giving a presentation.

Literally, I'm giving TED Talk.

No, it's actually my standing fan.

So the sweating issue is not really a problem for me anymore because I took matters into my own hands.

Parch.

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