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Good morning, girlies.
It's the toast.
It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts.
It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know.
We'll start your day off swirly.
It's the toast.
I sound amazing.
Welcome back to the toast and happy Tuesday.
And it's so important that you choose to spend your days with people who lift you up, co-workers who brighten your day.
So if you have a coworker you hate, this is your permission to slap the shit out of her.
Hey, Jax, how you darn?
Oh, sorry, her?
Could be a him, but let's be real.
It's a her.
It's a her.
It's always the women.
Hey, Swirly, how you doing?
I'm dern good.
Excited for this fantastic Tuesday.
We have a lot to do today.
The theme of today's episode.
It's an emergency.
It's an emergency.
Not to like jump right into the stories, but like just to give like a tease of what we're talking about today, which is Nicole, Gidman, and Keith Urban, which we had previously said was one of literally two reasons why we would ever do an emergency episode.
Very sadly, I feel like not everyone who listens to our podcast is also a Patreon member.
I mean, that's just a sad fact that's just an unfortunate reality.
I get it.
People have different priorities.
It's okay.
You're always welcome to join us, patreon.com slash a toast.
Having said that, over the summer, we had this like running bit that, you know, people always say when there's breaking news, like, oh my God, Clutty Jackie, you need to do an emergency episode.
And we say, well, like, yeah but we do an episode every day so just wait till tomorrow morning and there are very few things that could happen that would make us physically get up and record a emergency episode
down to think about what things could possibly happen that would trigger an emergency episode and we could literally only think of two things
one was of course the engagement of one tailor travis kelsey which ended up happening and we ended up recording an emergency episode Was that or was that what spawned this conversation?
No, like a week before we had said like realistically an emergency episode list, we would actually, what would make us get up off our ass
would be Taylor's engagement.
Okay, yes.
And she ended up getting engaged a week later and we recorded an emergency episode.
We did.
Because we weren't, because we weren't doing daily episodes.
And then we were like, what else really could?
And honestly, I feel like we're always talking about the strength of the marriage of Nicole Kidman and Keith Erman.
And we reference them quite a lot.
And we love them both so much, like as a couple, as individuals.
We're kind of like their biggest fans, weirdly.
We're always referencing or not referencing them.
And we were like, like, I guess if they got divorced, like that would call for an emergency episode.
And we only added them to the list because it was so out of the realm of possibility.
And when we said that, I got DMs from people being like, well, you know, I live in Nashville and I heard X, Y, Z.
And it's like, please, they say that about everyone.
I wasn't taking any of those messages seriously.
Lo and behold, TMZ breaking news yesterday.
Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban are getting separated.
Mary, a month later, we were called to task and we did not rise to the occasion.
But what's also funny is Claudia and I had just recorded a Patreon episode yesterday.
Literally, we had got up from our chairs and one hour later this news broke.
So like we couldn't get back in the chairs.
The thing is, this is the emergency episode.
It is.
It is.
And it's nice to have like more information, even though people are just speculating.
The news is like so silly.
They're like, Nicole Kinman was at a beauty event solo a few days ago before announcing split.
It's like Keith Erbman would have never been there, even in the heyday of their marriage.
No, they do a lot of solo work, which is why we've always commended them for like making their individual schedules work.
We always say like when a celebrity couple cites like scheduling, you know, it was hard to be bicoastal.
Like we broke up because the time management.
Well, Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban do it and they both are at the top of their game in their respective fields.
So if they can do it, anyone can.
But
even though they split, they did it for 20 years.
So do it for 20 years and then tell me you can't do it.
It also did remind me that I've been wanting to talk about Rhys Witherspoon did an interview where she was talking about her relationship with Nicole Kidman and she said the absolute funniest thing that I actually was laughing so hard.
She also did an impression of Nicole Kidman.
The impression was hysterical.
Oh my god, do you know what I'm talking about?
Yeah.
We're the real estate bitches.
It was.
The clip made me laugh so much.
I'm like, I never thought Reese Witherspoon was so funny, but like she's hysterical.
Mm-hmm.
Just
something I wanted to mention.
So what did she say that made you like the impression made you laugh?
The impression made me laugh of like Nicole Kidman sending her a property.
Oh no, we're the property bitches.
Like a take on the property brothers, like not Nicole Kidman being funny.
Yeah.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, it was really cute.
I think she was on
podcasts.
Culturistas.
Culturistas.
Culturistas.
That's so Jackie.
Las Culturistas.
Speaking of Las Cultaristas,
the Chostada community is upset with me because I didn't, like, you know, say that I was really excited for Bad Bunny.
And you know what?
Like, I stand with my community.
You guys are right.
He's for the girlies.
I take back everything I said.
And then I was trying to find, I know one Bad Bunny song and I was trying to find it on Spotify, but like, I don't know, Jackie.
And I was trying to ask Chat,
do you know that one?
I don't think I know one bad bunny song.
I know, I know the one, and then chat, I sang it for chat this morning, and chat was like, I don't know what you're talking about.
Yeah, no, I don't know one unless you found
that I'm familiar with.
I'm listening, I'm learning, I'm streaming, and you'll catch me at the Super Bowl in the front row.
That's really
one thing about me, I stand for my community.
Yeah, like they didn't like what I said, I take it back.
Oh, wow.
Even though after our episode yesterday, when we're like, no, when we say something, we're 10 toes down.
Like, deal with it.
Yeah, except like the Tostatic community, like, has let me fully infiltrate them and they never give me shit.
Like, so if they're giving me shit, like, I stand, I, okay, never mind.
Control Z.
So it's not your truth anymore that you're
not hyped for it.
Yeah, like, I can get hyped for anything.
That's good.
No, the more I think about it, the more I'm like, this is a crazy choice.
I'm so lit up.
Let's go.
Oh, wow.
She's
got a bunch of
Puerto Rico.
Well, Viva, Puerto Rico anyway.
It's a fast place.
Any day, Viva, Puerto Rico.
Send love to Puerto Rico.
Sending love.
The Paul brothers live in Puerto Rico.
There's like so many great
Puerto Rico is a deep like integral part of Ben and I's romantic history.
It's true.
And it's a U.S.
territory.
You don't need a passport to go there.
It's also true.
It's Parigy.
So it can be Parigy regardless of the Super Bowl.
Of course.
And it deserves its flowers.
And they've been through some hard times in the last few years.
Of course, lots of natural disasters.
I'm sending love.
And we're huge in Puerto Rico, by the the way i believe it we're the elk of puerto ricans sending love always
and forever in perpetuity and a day so of course and a day don't forget the day
the
first story of the day is of course going to be the breaking news we will dive into it but before we do how you doing jax how you doing I'm doing well.
Busy week, another like weird week because we have Yom Kippur on Thursday.
So like we'll be off on Thursday.
So just like,
you know, orienting myself to the week.
Last night, I was just like, I need to get off my phone.
I find that I'm on my phone too much these days.
So I did something crazy.
Crack?
Crazier.
Meth.
I started a book.
That is really crazy.
It is really crazy.
I just like needed to turn my brain off.
Uh-huh.
So I read, like, just started reading, not like the most amazing book or anything yet, but like, I'm really just trying.
Like, it's not good.
I've just too much time on my phone.
And I really am looking forward to yomke pour because i'm not fasting and because i won't be on my phone i'm going to turn it off for the 24 hours and i need a reset like that i don't know if anybody else is feeling it yeah i feel like nothing quite puts into perspective how much time you spend on your phone until you have a baby and it's like what name a worse feeling than getting caught up on your phone and like your baby's in the bouncer or whatever and you catch him like looking at you and you're like oh my god i was looking at my phone i'm disgusting yeah or you terrible feeling like you see someone else do it or it's like if you could see yourself in this moment being on your phone and like your kids are being adorable like what are you doing so like you really have to
and it's hard when your phone is like right there and like vibrating because everything just makes your phone vibrate even if people aren't actually looking for you like just no
tell me why like i never got as many text messages when i didn't have a baby and now that i have a baby it's like everybody wants to like engage with my content and send me text messages and call me and face time me and tell me how beautiful i am like nobody was communicating with me before i had a baby yeah so it's like you actually have to keep the phone out of the room otherwise the incessant buzzing like of course you're gonna always be drawn to it so and let me tell you what the incessant buzzing is it's the nanit okay yeah and It's an at it sound detected.
Yeah, I'm here singing.
Like I'm right here.
Yeah, that's extra tough in an apartment.
Like for me, I still get notifications like even when we're not in there.
Like if there's like a shadow motion.
Right.
You know, someone screaming.
Oh, and there's always a ghost on my nana.
There's always shadows.
Like the sun comes and goes.
The ghost of snitches pass lives permanently in my house.
And so I'm constantly getting like the ghost notifying the nanet.
I have to, like a few months ago, I turned off all Instagram notifications.
Like every Instagram cannot notify me.
you know kim kardashian could do dm me and i would not get a notification um so that's been good but still too much time spent on instagram like i've gotta scale it back that's a bummer for kim it's a bummer for everyone really tonight is dancing with the stars and it does you know it is worth mentioning that we are now um a viral sound amongst the tick tock Dancing with the Stars community.
As you guys know, Alex Earl and her partner Val used our sound.
Which sound did she use?
I think she used, I mean, I don't know how anyone has a problem with us.
And then last night.
I mean, there's so many sounds that we have that are viral that it's hard to remember who used what.
Correct.
Last night,
Danielle Fischel and her partner used that sound.
Hamstring.
So it's clear that like they all use each other's sounds.
It's just clear that we're so viral that anybody who wants to be in the midst of making viral TikToks has to use our sounds.
I think like I have a feeling Whitney Liavit is next because they make so many TikToks, her and Mark.
Yeah.
I wonder why she hasn't like done it.
Well, you know what?
Take your time with me.
She's got lots of content to make.
We are always here for you.
Yeah, maybe we'll come up with some new sounds, even though I think we produce sounds every day, but it's on the sound clippers.
I don't know who out there clips the sounds.
Well, we clip sounds and like when they go viral, it's never from our original videos.
It's like other people just being like, oh, this was funny.
We clip like conversations that aren't meant to be like viral sounds.
Right.
But the viral sound clippers, I just feel like they could be producing more.
They should farm our content more, okay?
They should.
For real.
I do think people pay for that.
Like you can pay like a company to like farm your content, basically.
I'd be down.
Somebody send me a bill.
Yeah.
Send us a farmer.
Farmer wants a wife.
Farmer.
And farmer wants a sound.
I love your sound, farmer.
E-I-E-I-O.
I feel like it's also worth mentioning that today's also Deer Toasters.
The community was not fed last week.
I have amazing submissions for you guys today.
So I don't think we should dilly and I don't think we should dally.
I do think we should dive right in because there's so much to do, including the way, oh, wait, oh, wait, oh, emergency episode.
Yeah, that's fine by me.
Jackie, I love your episode, emergency.
No, I love your sound farmer.
I love your sound farmer.
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Our first story.
SAG AFSHA.
No, I'm kidding.
Our first story.
Do we have a story about SAG?
We actually do.
It's very interesting.
She's always, she's like mining the internet for a story about SAG so she can say SAG AFSRA.
They're like the subplot.
It's actually a very interesting moral dilemma, and I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts.
But before that, Nicole Kinman and Keith Urban have separated after 19 years of marriage.
TMZ dropped the news yesterday.
Nicole and Keith have split.
He is living separate from her.
TMZ said that they have been living apart since the beginning of the summer.
As a reminder, the couple married in June 2006, so almost 20 years of marriage.
They shared daughters, Sunday Rose, who is 17, and Faith Margaret, who is 14.
Like genuinely, why?
I don't know of a good reason.
I don't think there was anything really nefarious like cheating here.
I really don't.
So, you know, they grew apart, whatever.
I'm like, seriously, grow up, you know?
Yeah, no, and it's like, you've been through all the hard times together.
I just was watching because I'm on my phone constantly, a reel about this girl.
This girl was explaining that your marriage goes through different eras and like they're very, and it's not about like always trying to get back to the honeymoon phase.
It's about thriving in those specific eras, even when it's so hard.
It's like you just got to get through like having young children.
Yeah.
And then eventually, and if you do all those things and you work through those things, then you get to the golden era.
And I feel like that's where they are.
So like, what goes wrong now when you have all the time in the world for each other, all the money in the world, all the success, like personal success separately?
Like, what goes wrong now?
I don't know and if you
i don't know i'm so upset by this i'm taking it so personally i know it has literally nothing to do with me i'm so
i'm not here for it i'm just kind of like not accepting it remember like back in the day when kim and condon got divorced like obviously before all of that like you were in denial you were like i don't believe it
i think they can work it out i really do i don't know and i already get to the point of announcing and i do worry like things are gonna come out where it's like a point of no return like we literally say this about every couple who breaks up like literally like zach bryan and breonna chicken fry we're like i know make it work here's the thing we're still in the place where like nothing has happened yet like she hasn't gone on call her daddy and like said he had a crooked penis yet you know like
and i'm actually begging nicole kidman like do not go on call her daddy like or just like Don't do what people do these days where it's like you break up with someone and you tell them what color their shit stained underwear was like I really don't think she will please like seriously please I'm so over that like can nothing be sacred between two people?
Maybe I'm naive, but I really think that they will keep this between them.
They do have two children, so that does like kind of keep the wheel by them.
I do.
I think the most we would get is like music from him that alludes to
the issues.
Yeah, and I'm just upset because like Nicole Kidman ran so far away from Hollywood, from Tom Cruise.
He literally kept her kids.
She ran.
He is the devil.
And she found this like wonderful thing.
And they built such a wonderful, it could have been just like a rebound.
you know she like needed a normal person who wasn't in a cult but she ended up finding this great love after tom cruise and they built a beautiful life together and he sort of healed her from the inside out with his little guitar and his long hair like and you know she's she lives through like one of the most painful things ever right like your children don't speak to you and it's not because you did anything wrong but it's because they're in a fucking cult with their dad
And as good as life could have been for her afterwards, I really believe that it was because of him.
Like she found something so beautiful, so healing.
And I'm sure her life is great now.
Like she has amazing friends, whatever.
But like, I'm sad.
I really am.
Like, it's such a, there's so much behind their marriage.
It's so much deeper than we even will ever know.
No, and 20 years is a long time.
And 20 years is a successful marriage.
Like, yes.
Even
though it's not
working, like they had a successful marriage and it's good.
And just because it's ending.
But what's interesting about these stories is like the narrative is that he's leaving her.
She didn't want this.
Yes.
That she has been fighting to save the marriage that like he moved out and he's the one like who's ending it.
Now the only.
The only red flag, if I now look back at like the last couple of years, the only red flag in their marriage is the amount of work Nicole Kidman takes on for an actor of her stature is really not compatible.
Like her doing that baby girl movie, like she does so much work.
That Netflix show, which I'm sorry was horrible, The perfect couple like she's so much better than a lot of the work she puts out it's almost like what are you running from good point I could see a movie like baby girl getting between them like what are you doing you're married 20 years and like you're licking up cat pee or something although Nicole Kidman is one of the very few women in Hollywood who like made a commitment you know like we're lifting up female storytellers and she actually does do like X amount of projects a year that are directed by women so she's not just like you know saying stuff she's actually doing stuff which I appreciate and I want to say I think baby girl was actually directed by a woman.
And maybe that was like her, you know, box checking for the year.
For sure, but there are plenty of things that are directed by women.
She also could just do less things that are still directed by women.
Like, I don't know.
I feel like that.
Yes, it was directed by a woman.
It's just sort of, that's kind of a conversation under.
No, I'm just saying, like, everybody wears their hurstery t-shirts and then they're back, you know, casting shy looks.
So you're just saying separately, she talks to talk and walks the walk as an individual, that's what she's doing.
Yeah, so I'm criticizing like the amount that she works, but at least she's like helping other women.
For sure.
But you may not feel like I can't criticize Baby baby girl because it was directed by a woman.
Girl, criticize.
Not Dana Holsberg seeing that movie with her in-laws because she didn't know what it was about.
Okay, it's a classic Dana.
I just wanted to caveat that, like, while I'm criticizing her work, she's also like, you know, she's moving the needle.
One of the few women in Hollywood who like talks about like, let's lift each other up.
And then they're like behind the scenes, you know, like stabbing women in the back.
Not Nicole Kidman.
She's moving the needle for women.
Just one.
I don't know, baby girl.
I think that's where it could have all started.
Just saying.
You do?
Yeah, like that's kind of like baby girl was like a cry for help.
Like, like, when we talk about how weird it is that actors, like, kiss people on set.
Yeah, yeah.
That movie, I didn't see it.
I actually don't even know what it's, it's like, she kind of gets into like a submissive relationship with her intern, right?
Yeah, like her young co-worker.
So it's like
poor,
like, like BDS is an extremely poor graphic movie.
It's all about, yeah, like, submissive.
Like, he makes her, like, act like a cat and pee on herself and drink milk from a bowl.
So if I'm her husband of 20 years,
side eye.
Especially because you're an accomplished actress.
Like you don't have to take lowbrow roles like that.
You could have said no, but you wanted to drink pee from a bowl.
Okay, I have another.
I have another theory for you.
Maybe like they're, you know, they've been married for 20 years.
Like maybe things got a little dry, stale in the bedroom.
And she didn't like love the way that he was seeing her, you know, the mother of your children.
Like at some some point you don't see
things can get like a little boring and so maybe she wanted to change the way he saw her so she took that role
and then what happened
and it was just like a band-aid maybe it gave him a few months interesting just a theory so you think they just lost the spark
i don't actually i
i don't know he's also a musician which like we do have to take into account like even though like we love him he's no he's our p-john like we love him keith urban yada yada like he's a musician like he's like definitely i don't know like on the tour bus being bad oh
oh i thought you were gonna say like you know he probably has a lot of feelings that need to be no handled they say that like the only man in hollywood who is actually truly genuinely loyal to his wife is robert downey jr that's what they say and so we should just assume that every other one
Until someone proves me wrong, I think there's going to be Pierce Brosner.
I know definitely doesn't cheat on his wife.
I'm going to open my phone and there's going to be like story time.
I hooked up with Keith Irvin, you know?
No, but like, I guess unless he left to be with someone else, but I don't think.
Oh my god, I would be so upset if he actually fell in love with one of these hookers.
I don't know.
I mean, we could speculate all day.
I'm sad.
I'm just like, I'm projecting.
I don't even know.
Like, I'm sure Keith Irban's a great guy.
I don't know.
I'm just upset.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Blaming baby girl feels safe.
100%.
Well, I guess that's that for now.
I'm sure we'll have updates.
We'll have updates, but
are you ready to move on?
Anything else to say?
Do you want to like give me a second?
Yes, I have one more thing to say to Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban.
Sorry, let me start over.
I have one more thing to say to Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban Kidman.
I was rooting for you.
We were all rooting for you.
How dare you?
So you're mad.
Yeah, make it work.
Yeah.
Like,
I know you, like, your individual happiness is important, but, like, you also have to do it.
You have to think of the collective good.
You have a responsibility.
Correct.
As role models.
Better.
You have a responsibility as role models to stay miserable in your marriage.
1,000%.
I said what I said.
Are you ready for our next story?
Which is some legal news.
I don't know why
these two people accept as actually one.
Actually, you feel adjacent to to Nicole and Keith I think they were neighbors at one point and that's Jay Cutler ex-husband of Kristen Cavalieri has been jailed in Tennessee following his CUI yeah so he got a DUI a few months ago and he has a four-day jail sentence so he began so he's just like Chloe Kardashianing it before he's in jail that's I mean unless he had like early hours behavior yeah because of overcrowding but he went to jail today can I say something uh-huh chloe kardashian going to jail and then getting sent home like a few hours later due to overcrowding was the first and last time I ever heard of overcrowding in a jail.
Is that a thing or was that just like a line on keeping up with the Kardashians?
Like for real?
Oh, I think it's a thing.
I never, that was the first and last time I ever heard of that happening to someone.
I never questioned it.
I know, but have you ever heard of it happening ever again?
I don't know.
I feel like maybe.
I feel like sometimes like celebrities get out for overcrowding, especially if it's like something like...
Is it something that only happens to celebrities?
No, maybe it happens to other people too.
We just don't hear about it it because they're sound up in the comments like have you ever heard of somebody you know or like went to high school with like going to jail and then getting sent home early due to overcrowding like i think it's seriously like a fake phenomenon honestly
that we only think is real because like we watch it on the kardashians how could it not be real yeah well they had space today because uh jay cutler went to prison to jail and he will be there until friday for his dui
I just want to say, I know we could all say like, it's four days, whatever.
You do it.
Like, I could not spend four minutes in jail.
Yeah.
You guys know my biggest nightmare in this life i'm so afraid i'm more afraid of going to jail than i am dying and that's what keeps me like abiding the law yeah hard i'm almost like a narc when it comes to the law that's like really crazy that he's going to jail that he's a jailbird
And it's actually crazy that there are so many celebrities who just like low-key go to jail.
Why do we put so much emphasis on celebrities?
Like they're literally like delinquent criminals.
Like
train dead morons.
Almost every celebrity has been to jail, like, it's so crazy or arrested.
Like, why do we, even the best ones?
Like, I love her.
Sorry, Rhys Witherspoon has been to jail or like she got arrested.
Why do we care what these people think?
And, like, why are we literally talking about them every day on a podcast?
It's so crazy.
Sometimes, like, you do go down that
and you can't focus on her else, like, we're out of a job.
Like, what are we gonna do?
I know
it's fun,
but like, every celebrity is not college educated, has mostly been arrested.
I know, but like has mostly like all been arrested, went to jail, has like some sort of like addiction issue.
Yeah.
And like we're always talking about, like she spoke out.
Why do we give a fuck?
No, I mean
enlightenment
is no longer giving a fuck.
Yeah, but the thing is, I love them.
I love them.
I would give them my last dollar.
Like, it's so sick.
Yeah.
Let me, who are like, my faves in this life?
Like, have they been to jail or arrested?
Taylor Swip?
No, of course not.
You would never.
Luke Holmes, but never.
Hilly Bieber is like turning into one of my favorite people on the planet.
Never.
Gwyneth, never.
I should see Gwynneth, like for carving her name into a tree.
Totally.
But no, I don't have a recollection of her having been arrested.
Has Gwyneth Paltrow ever been arrested?
No.
Oh, she had her legal troubles with the skiing incident, of course, but she was never arrested.
Who are like my favorites?
Kelly Clarkson.
I don't even need to Google it.
No, she's not.
Kiki Palmer, she's never been.
Yeah.
Mindy Kaling, never been.
Yeah.
Okay, I feel good about, honestly, like my faves.
Yeah.
You guys, look inward.
Are your faves like constantly getting arrested?
Like, maybe.
Look inward.
Yeah.
And that's causing trouble.
If your fave was Jay Cutler, maybe you're looking inward today.
Maybe take the next four days off to think about what you've done.
But I don't know.
He's really paying the time for the crime, you know?
Right.
So, okay, by the way.
If Sam Hun had gone to jail, like, would you have forgiven him faster because he would have like paid for his sins?
Here's the thing.
I actually, as like a human being, I really do believe in rehabilitation, especially ever since I read the book, The Many Lives of Mama Love.
Did you ever read it?
No.
I think you should now that you're looking for books.
I really do believe in like the...
the beauty of rehabilitation.
I just don't feel like any celebrities like ever get truly rehabilitated.
And I'm not talking about like rehab.
I'm talking about like doing something something wrong and like coming out better on the other side.
Like if they do changing their ways, if they do, it takes decades.
Charlie Sheen.
Yeah.
Because I watched his documentary and I believe him, but I don't think he was saying these things 10, 20, 30 years ago.
Yeah,
I understand.
So it's just important to like remember, like, come up for air every once in a while.
Like, these people are insane.
Yeah, they are insane.
And here's what they're in a tizzy about now.
Sag Astra has condemned AI actress Tilly Norwood.
Have you heard?
I'm following the Tilly Norwood saga.
She's gorgeous.
So Sag Afstra has issued a statement condemning Tilly Norwood, the AI actress who has become a contentious subject in Hollywood after her creator recently claimed that multiple talent agents were interested in signing the AI creation.
The acting guild believes, quote, creativity is and should remain human-centered and is opposed to the replacement of human performers by synthetics.
To be clear, Tilly Norwood is not an actor.
It's a character generated by a computer program that was trained on the work of countless professional performers without permission or compensation, they wrote in a statement.
They said it has no life experience to draw from, no emotion, and from what we've seen, audiences aren't interested in watching computer-generated content untethered from the human experience.
It doesn't solve any problem.
It creates the problem of using stolen performances to put actors out of work, jeopardizing performer livelihoods, and devaluing human artistry.
They added that signatory producers should be aware that they may not use synthetic performers without complying with our contractual obligations, which require notice and bargaining whenever a synthetic performer is going to be used.
So the thing is, is them building a program and referencing like art that other people created and not compensating them is wrong.
And yeah, we're at this stage now where like AI is coming for jobs.
That includes acting.
And so
while I don't, I don't agree with it.
Why would actors, you know, get their jobs safe from AI and not, you know, factory workers or coal miners?
Like AI is coming for everyone in marketing.
It's coming for everything.
So it's not just about like SAG.
SAG is obviously like centering themselves.
And I get it.
That's their job.
But if we're going to have a conversation, like we're going to have a big conversation, not just about like theater actors.
Yeah.
And I want to see this energy for all the other people whose jobs are being replaced by AI.
Now, I want to say the man who created AI gave a statement and he had probably one of the loseriest answers ever, just being like, I didn't make Tilly to
steal jobs.
I made Tilly to start conversation.
Well, this is what I, the creator's name is a line.
I would have assumed that was a woman, but it's a man.
He issued a defense of Tilly by saying, she is not a replacement for a human being, but a creative work, a piece of art.
I see AI not as a replacement for people, but as a new tool, a new paintbrush, just as animation, puppetry, or CGI.
Actually, that's a sole of an answer.
What about animation?
Was that putting people out of jobs?
What about puppetry?
What about puppetry?
Or a CGI, which is fair, opened fresh possibilities without taking away from live acting.
AI offers another way to imagine and build stories.
I'm an actor myself, and nothing, certainly not an AI character, can take away the craft or joy of human performance.
I just want to say, like, the activity is.
Yeah, not even convincing me.
The animation comparison is a sleigh.
It is, 100%.
And I also want to say, I remember a couple of years ago where they had that, like, robot pop star, Sophie or whatever.
Remember her?
she like didn't take off I feel like
in a in an existential way like these robot type of AI characters are not a real threat to the entire industry but yes it becomes like a new sect of art yeah and I guess it's an yeah it's a new category and then if you're gonna have an AI character in a movie I should I'm sure other characters wouldn't other actors would not want to work with the AI character so everyone in your movie would be
getting discriminated against no I mean it's very speciist yes it's so specious.
So specious.
So everyone in your movie would be an AI character.
It would be an AI-generated movie.
And is that movie better than what the real people are putting out?
At the end of the day, it's like,
is it good?
It's not right.
It's not a generalization because there are some animated movies that are better than non-animated movies, and there are some non-animated movies that are better than animated movies.
So it's like, it's not like saying all AI movies are going to be better than regular movies.
Make a good movie.
No, like it could be worse.
Also, yeah, like Hollywood, make a good movie.
They're making really bad movies.
And I think that also really puts their jobs in jeopardy because if AI is going to do it better, because they're doing it badly, like if they were doing it really well, I don't think anyone would really like care, like crave anything else.
But yeah, maybe we do want an AI generated movie that's like, AI, make a movie people like.
And they do it.
The thing is, is that the future is here.
And you really can't fight it.
So you have to find a way to survive, like and exist alongside with it.
And it is.
It's coming for every single industry.
And whether you take a moral stance on it or not, like it's here.
So you can either get on board or get left behind, honestly.
And to be clear, I'm not picking a side here because I don't give a shit
about this particular issue of AI actors, but I do find it very interesting.
No, I do too.
And it's like, it's coming for every space, right?
And so we're only hearing about this one because it's like SAG and everyone's famous.
But there are great challenges in, you know, integrating AI into every space.
Either lawyers.
lawyers that's bad yeah like AI could just write a contract lickety split it's so true copywriters like goodbye it's yeah
this is just a larger conversation and what do you by the way even like interior designers like I was using AI like I forget for what I was like buying a new rug for my master bedroom and I was like what rug would go with this and they gave me like a bunch of good options and I found a good one like you know no everyone and I I said, I'm like, I like the style of like modern or whatever.
I like your cake.
I like your rug, chat.
So I don't know what the answer is, honestly.
Like, how can you fight
this progress?
Like, how can you just turn it
off?
You can't.
We have to, we should be using these tools to make our human work better.
Like, how we use Chat GPT on this show to enhance the fact-checking department.
Or kind of how, like, the
machine
factory, like uh
you know what I'm saying.
Like uh the Industrial Revolution.
Right.
They put
factory workers out of a job.
The assembly line.
The assembly line.
That's what I was looking for.
The assembly line did include factory workers.
They included people.
But then it automated it.
Yeah, then it does get automated.
But yeah, even, you know, the sewing machine
enhanced
seamstressing.
No, but you still needed someone to operate the machinery.
A seamstress is a woman, yeah.
What is a male seamstress called?
Seamster?
Oh, duh.
No, it's not so duh.
I'm just saying.
Oh, okay.
I don't know that that's true, but it feels right.
Okay.
And a female tailor is a tailored.
Correct.
Yeah, tailor.
I don't know.
These are big questions, much bigger than me.
Of course.
But I did like a lot of...
Sorry that happened and good luck.
A lot of like AI advocates do like to compare it to the Industrial Revolution where it's like it pushed us.
It was a leap forward.
Yeah, I'm not against it at all.
I use AI in my everyday life.
It has improved my life.
But it's definitely...
Yes, I understand the larger implications, especially as it comes to jobs.
Yeah.
AI is over here eliminating jobs and I don't think they're really creating a lot.
Yeah, and to be clear, like I don't always love the work that AI does.
So I think there really is like value for human.
And if they're only ever studying like human, say in acting they're studying like actors
then they don't and we just you know keep going with ai actors they won't have like new thing they won't be able to get better right because their references are old and they're putting people out of business yeah
yeah so i don't know not us having big philosophical debates here on the show and like ethical dilemmas but to be clear like i
i have she has no horse in this race no i do i mean for the general question of like yeah it puts i don't know what the right answer is no because what are you just gonna shut shut it all down?
Stifle progress.
No, it's been amazing in other ways.
People upload like their medical results and get like all this information that it would have taken them like years to get.
Who knows?
Who knows?
Check back in in a few years.
Once it's already done, we'll be able to call it.
Yeah.
Classic us.
What stories number next?
Four.
I can wait.
It's a little book to movie news.
What?
People We Meet on Vacation trailer just dropped.
Oh, I didn't even...
Wait, I didn't even know that it was getting the movie treatment.
It's on Netflix.
I happen to think that everything
Emily Henry has ever written is the most overhyped thing in the world.
Like, she gives such industry plant to me.
Having said that, her best book is People We Meet on Vacation.
Oh, having said that, People We Meet on Vacation was the reason I stopped reading Emily Henry.
Like, I really
read before that.
Betread.
I liked Betrie.
That was her first book.
I'm watching.
Okay.
What is this song?
Hang with me, Robin.
Oh, the girl singing in the trailer.
Okay.
Oh, I hate it.
I hate this.
Hi.
Hi.
Alex.
I was not expecting to see you.
My bag came out first, and that
never happens.
What?
I say we just wing it.
Oh, my God.
I've seen enough.
This does not look good.
It doesn't look good.
It doesn't even look like the book that I read, which I didn't like, so I guess I'll be glad if it diverges from the book.
I actually liked the book.
My core issue with this book is that the title has nothing to do with the book.
The book is about a girl and her platonic best guy friend who go on all these different vacations every year and like, you know, pretend like they're not in love.
And then it's called People We Meet on Vacation.
Right.
You would have thought that they met each other on vacation.
No, or that they like go on these, and it's not even about the other people on the vacations.
It's about them too.
It's about them too.
Like people we meet on vacation, it's like you go on a cruise and you like fall in love with someone random that you like.
Love.
I don't understand the title compared to the first of all.
What it's actually about.
I don't recognize either of those actors.
And I just want to say Netflix does not have a good track record of adapting movies into TV shows and books.
The Luckiest Girl Alive was not my favorite.
Again, I was a little too close to it, but I don't think it's generally regarded as a good adaptation.
The Perfect Couple was horrible.
And that's literally my favorite book.
What did they recently do too?
I don't know, like that department at Netflix is not slaying the day.
No, and this, like, the trailer looks bad, the book was bad.
Um, actually, so maybe it will be good.
And sometimes, in a trailer, you just like throw in a good song, and like, it looks like a good trailer.
And that was a good song, and it didn't do it.
No, and it's like, it's it just seems so boring.
Like, these two people that go on all these trips.
Oh, no, we're just friends.
And, like, of course, she's so quirky.
Oh, I'm listening to loud music in the airport.
I didn't see you.
Ah, my headphones.
Like, okay.
It was like, we're just friends.
And then by the end of this book, we won't, we'll be loving it.
We're fucking right.
Cool.
Seen it before.
I think I've seen this film before.
And I didn't like the ending.
I think actually at this juncture, we should be leaving the book adaptations to Hulu.
They do a very good job.
They do do.
We do do.
They do do a good job.
Actually, Prime, Prime does excellent.
December, turn pretty, Daisy Jones.
Tiss tip, yeah.
Tiss a tip.
Yeah.
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Our fifth and final story, a little hosting news.
Lainey Wilson will fly so low as host of the CMA Awards after joining two co-hosts last year, Peyton Manning and Luke Bryan, who were doing it together for a few years.
Now she has the job all on her own.
I feel like it's like a weird job for her.
Especially because she's tied for most nominees with six
nominations.
I feel like when you're really in the mix of, you know,
like at the height of your your career.
And that's not when you take the nomination, excuse me, the hosting job.
You take it when you're on the up and when you're in like your retirement era.
Like Brad Paisley did it for so long.
I guess he also did it with Carrie Underwood, who was like at the time still at the top of her game.
So it's different in country than it is in pop.
Like you would never have Taylor Swift hosting the Grammys.
It just feels like.
a weird time for Lainey Wilson.
Like you're sitting in the audience waiting for your awards to be given to you.
Yeah.
Or like you're present, announcing someone who's going to present the award to you.
And then you just.
It sounds like a logistical nightmare on.
It's like running from backstage to the stage to your seat.
Like, I don't know.
It does, but they must really like her because.
Yeah.
It's also very political.
I feel like country sickers are always talking about how like these big organizations like the ACMs, the CMAs, are really political.
And if you want to like win the awards, it's not just about who sold the most or made the most.
Like you have to participate in the ring.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, congratulations to her.
Yeah, it feels like it's going to be a busy night for her, wishing her the best.
Yeah.
And you you know how I feel about Lainey Wilson.
Like, please don't let me go on my diatribe.
Like, I actually love her music.
I do think she's overhyped, but I love her music.
Actually, not overhyped.
Over awarded.
Okay, that's fair.
No, and I've been getting more into her music recently.
And like, she's done nothing wrong.
It's not her fault that she wins all these awards and that like they've decided that like to make up for all the years of overlooking and they're just going to put it all on her
even when they like Luke does deserve it.
It's just like and he's a man so he's not going to get it and that's not Lainey's fault that they're over correcting with Lainey.
Like, she didn't make them do that.
She didn't.
Jackie just explained perfectly.
Yeah.
She didn't create this problem.
And so I'm not going to now hold it against her.
Right.
And not like stream her music.
Yeah.
So when 4x4 by you does come up, that's not my favorite song.
It's not hot country.
I listen to what Lainey has to say.
She's got a lot to say.
Yeah.
No, she's really fab.
Hang Tight, Honey, is the best song ever.
She's really fab.
She is.
And she's got personality.
She's actually good for a host.
Mazil Telaney.
Mazil Talaney, wishing you well.
And speaking of
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Let's dive into Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment where Jackie and I do our absolute best to help the swirlies in need.
It's our advice segment.
If you ever want to write in, you have two ways of submitting.
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Feel free to write in about whatever's going on in your life.
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This one I'm taking extremely personally because it has to do with Ozempic.
Hey, Swirlies, I need an opinion on this little awkward Ozempic situation I'm in.
I did Ozempic for about three weeks before the summer.
I didn't need it.
I was about 130 pounds, but my mom had some extra lying around, so I was like, why not?
It was a totally fine experience.
I lost 10 pounds.
I've been off of it and maintaining it ever since.
Obviously, I didn't tell anyone.
I obviously didn't tell anyone I was on it because they would tell me I didn't need it, LOL.
Well, I hosted friends at my vacation house, and the next day, my friend was showing me a picture on her phone.
She swipes, and what do I see?
A picture of my Ozempic in my fridge that I clearly didn't hide well enough.
I pretended like I didn't see it.
Do I come clean, confront her, or what?
My mom is also on it and is open about it, so I could also just totally blame it on my mom.
I prefer not to tell anyone because it was literally three weeks.
Please help.
No, I'm sorry.
Take the credit.
Like three weeks, like, you don't have to come clean.
Honestly, Honestly, what a shady bitch for taking a picture of your Ozempic.
So obviously all your friends are talking behind your back, speculating if you took Ozempic to lose those 10 pounds.
You must look amazing and they're so jealous.
Yeah, I would worry more, not about like what's happening with Ozembic, but the fact that you have a fucking rat in your house.
You invited that bitch to your vacation house and she's taking pictures of your intimate items that, by the way, could be, you have a very good excuse.
Like for all she knows, it could literally just be your mom.
It's like, fuck this bitch.
Like, I don't care what you do about the Ozempic.
Cut this bitch out of your life.
What was she doing with that picture?
sick.
Sending it to everyone, being like, guys, you were right.
Kelly is on Ozempic or whatever this girl's name is.
Like, no, I'm mad.
I don't even, I actually do not care about the Ozempic situation.
You're not mad enough at this girl.
Like, taking a picture of you inside your house, you invited her into your home.
Have you ever seen
the patients of the people who live in your home?
Like, what an invasion.
Imagine if it was like your pill cabinet.
Of course, like, imagine if it was like a mental health bipolar pill.
She's sending that to your friends.
Fuck this bitch.
Yeah, deny till you die, by the way, just to make her crazy.
Yeah, being like, no, actually, it's my diabetic grandmother.
Just make something up.
Like, fuck this bitch.
Yeah.
I'm sorry that that happened.
That, that's not a good feeling.
Like, somebody's in your home.
Good for you for having a vacation house, by the way.
Don't ever invite her again.
Yeah.
No, that's like the, the, what's jarring to me.
You shouldn't feel bad about anything.
You shouldn't feel obligated to share.
In general, people shouldn't feel obligated to share, but like, I am with you.
Like, it was three weeks.
Just like, you did it yourself.
Congrats, grand.
Nobody needs to know.
Nobody needs to know.
And like, I'm just upset that.
And obviously they're all talking about how amazing you look like this is a like and how do you look so good so you should feel good about that yeah send a nude photo of yourself and be like you are never welcome back at my house
yeah
right like your question to us about the ozempic like i'm not so concerned about that i'm more so concerned about like you have toxic energy in your life that you need to eradicate immediately right the question isn't like should i come clean and no who cares do whatever she wants should you remain friends with this person correct and the answer is no yeah or Or now you know.
Like you can have a friend who's like, maybe you guys have history and like she's really funny and you have a good time.
But now you know that she's, you know, not just
all good all the time.
And I can't believe you invited her to your vacation home, like the nicest thing somebody could do.
And they could have invited us.
Later on.
And we wouldn't have taken her.
We would never have Eurozampic.
We would have just shot ourselves up, but we would have
to be a good guy.
Yeah.
All right, next up.
Hey, Jackson Claude, I just found out that my husband of one month on the last night of our honeymoon met two men while I was back at our hotel room sleeping that purchased a lap dance for him.
The woman was naked and at the end, he pulled his pants down.
Apparently, it didn't go any further than that.
I thought this was a joke when he started telling me a week later.
I'm extremely upset and hoping for advice.
Okay, back it up.
When was their honeymoon?
A month ago.
Found last night.
Found two men.
Met two guys like while he was at the hotel bar or whatever.
She was asleep or she was in the room.
Yeah, she was sleeping.
And they like purchased a lap dance.
I guess like under the guise of like, oh, this guy just got married.
Sort of like bachelor party energy.
This is a nightmare.
There are so many red flags.
Like your husband went to the hotel bar while you were sleeping on your honeymoon.
Bitch, go to bed and lay with your wife.
Two, not only did he like run out, he was like hanging with dudes that like he partied with.
He didn't, he doesn't sound like a guy who was like ready for marriage, not to be like divorced.
He was looking for any straggler to go out with and they go to a strip club, like a bunch of
the lap dance is one of many red flags here.
Like, not just the act of getting a lap dance from a naked woman, and you pulled your pants down.
That is cheating, by the way.
Yeah, no, it's not like he did it on his bachelor party with his friends, and you go to a strip club, and like, it's the Iron Man, and whatever.
Like,
this is so weird.
And I feel like he's telling you to sort of cleanse himself, being like, What do you mean I told you?
Like, but no, no, he took, like, I'm sorry, there are a lot of elements here that are cheating.
The fact that it was on your honeymoon, you have a big problem here.
I'm I'm not going to like sugarcoat.
You have a big problem because like now you're married.
Right.
You don't have kids.
So
you can always back out.
So this is
what I'll say is this is cause to evaluate the relationship.
Like it's time for a state of the union.
Are there other red flags?
Are there other things about him
that you need to do an audit now?
And now would be the time to leave if the audit turns up rotten.
Yeah, I like that.
Do an audit.
I like that.
Like a mental audit.
Like, how do you feel about, like, you know what I mean?
Like, did he just get, is he really stupid?
Is he sort of like a follower?
And he met these guys and he found himself in a bad spot, but he's like, not a bad person.
He just has no backbone.
Like, also, not great.
Not great, but not divorce worthy.
Yeah, like, it depends on the intention.
Do you have to worry every time you go on vacation that he's going to be at?
Is he just the kind of guy that goes to the bar and just like goes out and like can't be serious?
You know what I mean?
Like, you only you can answer these questions.
We're doing an internal audit.
I love that.
I do.
I'm really sorry that this happened to you.
I just want to say, like, don't be embarrassed to just call it.
No.
And you have like total grounds.
Right.
I think a lot of people find themselves in like bad situations because they didn't just call it for fear of like what everyone from your like high school Facebook group is going to see.
Like who cares?
Like you could be so much further down the line in such a worse situation because you didn't just call it.
Jackie's right.
You don't have kids one month.
Like, okay, people will talk about you for a month and then they'll move on.
And you know what?
At least people are talking about you okay let's give them something to talk about no and don't be afraid to just call it i think sometimes it's easier when you have like a tangible reason i think sometimes also people like are afraid to call it because it's like well it's just a feeling and i could change and sometimes i feel different and like it's like but he did something like very wrong and if it's something that speaks to a pattern of behavior that you've seen or it just sort of confirms other doubts that you've had which only you know i can't tell you or it's like oh my god so out of left field like i can you can forget Like I'm, as we've said, we're very forgiving.
So like, if he is worthy of forgiveness, then forgive and move on.
But like, you do need to ask yourself these big questions.
Do an audit.
I love that.
Only you can make the right decision.
But if really, if genuinely, like, he's a Pijam and he did something bad, yada, yada.
But he also, if you are going to, like, give him grace, he needs to get his ass handed to him so fucking hard.
Really needs to be told, like, that this is not okay behavior.
Wait, who took their pants off?
He did.
That's look.
Yeah, who, by the way, even in like a normal lap dance on a bachelor party, like you keep your pants on.
It's kind of the rules.
It's like you have physical therapy.
I don't think that's a good idea.
Maybe he went to a check.
I don't think he went to a strip club.
I think he went to a brothel.
I think he thought he was at physical therapy.
Oh, for sure.
For his coccidinia.
Oh, maybe he just has coccidinia.
No, that's really weird.
And by the way, I feel like the way you're writing to us, like you're like trying to vouch for him.
Look, the woman was naked, and at the end, he pulled his pants down.
Apparently, it didn't go any further than that.
Didn't go any further than what?
Did he pull his undies down too?
Yeah, I need to know where Undy's kept on.
No, the whole, even honestly, Undy's on or off, it's bad.
No, that's really bad.
Also, I want to know how he told you.
Like,
was it really...
Did he come to you like guilty?
Like full of regret?
Like, oh my God, this has been like eating me up.
I did something so bad.
Or like, no, of course we did that.
It was a honeymoon.
Like, that's what he built.
What is the context in which he told you?
Yeah.
And what's his level of remorse and regret?
Or was he just saying it like, how funny?
Ha ha.
That's a red flag.
Don't be afraid to just call it, girlfriend.
Don't be afraid.
Run the audit.
And I've said it once, I say it again.
It is extremely chic to have an ex-husband.
Like, I don't think that that.
No, and you get to tell everyone, like, he pulled his pants down with during the lap dance.
Like, no one's going to question you.
On our honeymoon.
On our honeymoon.
It gets worse with every sentence.
With two other guys he met in the bar.
While I was sleeping on our honeymoon correct no one's gonna judge you and then you have a chic ex-husband I'm sorry I'm I'm all here for it but if you stay too and you want to work it out I support you we love that forgiveness is beautiful thing sets you forgive me this final one is so funny okay
I was let go sorry it's not funny that you were let go I was let go for my job after having my baby
and then my dad had a stroke
So I've gained about 30 pounds ever since then, just like stress on stress on stress.
I visited home and my dad offered me a wager to lose 20 pounds and he would give me $1,000.
I was humiliated.
We had a big fight.
I know he meant well, but it felt like I was, if he felt like I was fat or broke, why make me be a performing monkey just to like get money?
How would you react to this?
I let it go and apologized, but I'm still hurt.
Of course it would hurt my feelings.
Naturally.
However, after taking a step back, I say to myself, I could be 20 pounds slimmer and $1,000 richer.
This is a good thing for Jack's self.
Especially like with Ozempic.
Girl, five words for you.
Take the money and run.
Yeah, you come out of this so pargy.
Like, of course, you know, if you don't want to lose the weight, like, and it's not, it's not right when people make you feel bad about your weight, but like generally speaking, like you don't feel good about it.
That's how you even describe it.
You're in a tough time.
So you gained weight.
That's, it doesn't like, it's not giving like living my best life.
You would like to lose the weight.
So this is like a little motivation and you get paid and you'll feel like overall, you'll, you'll be in a better place.
So yeah, like sometimes like it hurts to hear it.
And especially that way, like gamifying it is kind of weird.
Um,
but when you take emotions out of it.
Yeah, it's hard to take emotions out of it because like your background, you said like just going through a really hard time.
Like, and your dad should be more kind and caring with his words.
Like men are just not.
Like no, I'm sorry, like a woman would never say this.
Like if you had a baby, like, no.
But yeah, if you can zoom out and take the emotions out of it, like, he's basically just covering your Ozempic prescription.
And, well, he, you should, like, get that included in the fee.
And I would say like before Ozempic, like, this would have sounded really, even really hard.
And also, like, you got to up the money.
Like, I'm like, not that Ozempic is a cheap, but it helps.
And it makes it, it makes it doable for people who maybe couldn't have done it before.
Right.
So.
Yeah, in the age of Ozempic, like, you're crushing it.
I just want to say, if you got, like, go from your job and, like, the only way your dad is going to give you money for $1,000 like is to lose weight.
Like he's a dick.
If you need money and he just has it lying around, clearly, he should have been more generous with you like before the weight loss thing.
But zooming out, like, yeah, if you wanted to lose the weight anyway, do it.
And now you'll also get $1,000.
Yeah.
But I understand why your feelings are hurt.
Of course.
That's hurtful.
No, parents, like, don't know how to, like.
Tell their kids.
When it comes to like
to lose weight.
Yeah, there's like no good way to do it.
No, there is not.
It's like, no.
And And they're always coming from a place of love.
They want you to be healthy and happy, but like, it hurts so bad to hear it.
Like, there's no good way.
So I guess this was like his way.
Another bad way.
There's agreed, not a good way.
No one's ever coming away from the conversation.
Like, wow, I'm glad you said something.
Yeah, of course, I didn't know.
Thanks.
I'm not living in this body.
I had no idea.
Kind of Ozempic heavy segment today.
Yeah, but
yeah, I guess so.
Causing lots of drama.
Well, we added Ozempic into the third, true, true, true.
But we can't talk about weight loss without talking about Ozempic.
No, that's like it's
so exciting now.
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